My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 144 - 'THE SUICIDE SQUAD' RECAP/REVIEW WITH CLEM

Episode Date: August 11, 2021

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Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3G and Barstool Sports. I am your host, Robbie Fox. With me is my co-host, Clem. And we are here for the Suicide Squad review, recap, breakdown, extravaganza. James Gunn's Suicide Squad is finally out, a movie we've been looking forward to for what

feels like years now. I don't know if it was announced years ago, but man, it feels like we've been wanting this movie for a long time. We finally saw it. Both me and Clem went to a movie theater this weekend, and we're here to talk about it reminder this episode is sponsored by 3g the best in the delta 8 thc industry and they've basically invented the industry as well all of these products are formulated by a biochemist made in the usa with usa grown hemp i mean peacemaker would love that and their delta 8 thc is a federally legal version of thc it's a more functional alternative to marijuana. It gives off an amazing buzz and a great body feel,

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If you go to 3chi.com, that's. It will give you a buzz. So please use it responsibly. If you go to 3chi.com, that's the number three, chi.com. You can shop for Delta eight vapes, gummies, tinctures, oils, cookies, cereal, treats, brownies, and more that can just make the Suicide Squad an even better movie for you. Use code MMB at checkout and you will receive 5% off your order. Again, that is promo code MMB for My Mom's Basement. Many years in the making, Bob. Like you said here, October 2018 is when James Gunn was announced for it. So I can't believe every, you know, the last year has been in slow motion. So like when did the trailers come out? When did the teasers come out? I don't know,

but we finally got there in the theaters on hbo max a whole bunch of different ways to like view it and stuff like that so i'm happy we get to finally do this recap many years in the making yeah did you enjoy the movie i mean we won't get into spoiler we'll we're gonna get into spoilers but just a non-spoilery review like did you like the movie so it's interesting i went into this cautiously stoked about it i said i don't know if that's really a thing it should be like if you're stoked you should be like jumping out of your skin for it but if you're cautious you should be kind of like yeah but i thought it could be like you know i'm going in with guardians level expectations for

this heading into it but i also have been burnt by the you know because the reviews were coming out the rotten tomatoes i always go back to last jedi where it's like just because there's a whole bunch of red on the rotten tomato screen doesn't mean it's all going to be good right and i went into it cautiously stoked i came out of it i liked it did not love it didn't hate it but there were times where i was going between love and hate throughout the entire movie. Oh, wow. So, like, I don't even know if hate's the word, but, like, disappointed. And I was like, I do think this movie isn't geared towards people like me.

Large, I was talking to Large about it on Podbrothers. He did a very quick, spoiler-free, check it out on my mom's basement review. And he said, I think he said it was the best comic book movie since endgame i was like large that's a big one that's you're you're talking about the web slinger there you're just you know glossing over and the web slinger had quite a movie right with a good villain and everything but i'll be interested to see the difference between us i think as usual i think you'll always be a little more uh positive about, but I do think there were, there were things I really loved about this. And there were things that I just was kind of like mad about. Yeah. I loved it. I tweeted out that it was like, so James Gunn, but also unlike anything James Gunn has ever done at the same

time, it felt fresh. It didn't feel like a guardians reboot revamp where he's just taking a gaggle of like characters that are weird and zany and putting them together and putting great music to it but it had all of those elements you know it had the great music it had the weird characters it had the polka dot mans and the king sharks but i really felt like this was the direction like this movie had the direction that i want the dCEU to go with going forward. Not necessarily for Batman or Superman. Can't have them cracking dick jokes and fart jokes and stuff like that. But for the weird characters, for the zany characters, I feel like you could make a Green Lantern movie instead of just needlessly dark you know the zach snyder we're gonna show rain and we're gonna show lightning and you're gonna barely be able to see i mean that was one of the big issues i had with the first suicide squad which i don't know if you

even saw the david a or suicide squad didn't even see it no a lot of it was dark and it was just like really hard to tell what was going on almost in that like game of thrones way where you're like the villains are these like uh alien dark like black uh gooey things and they're killing them at night it's just like i don't need that this movie was so bright i mean aside from the stuff in the beginning wherever they got first got sent to on that beach like the whole movie was in panama where they shot it uh supposed to be somewhere else but it was like a colorful movie and it worked and like Warner Brothers didn't blame people for not having uh light enough movie screens right because I remember that was HBO's line when uh when everyone

was complaining about the Game of Thrones battle of Winterfell or whatever it is two things I saw it in the theater and I imagine you saw it in the theater as well and that was a Jeff D. Lowe have to see it in IMAX Jeff I don't have this is another this is a this is a legitimate gripe of mine is when movie theaters say they have an imax theater and it's an imax screen and they shot in ox no no no no no imax theater that means you have a fucking screen that is like seven stories high i need to fucking feel like i am in the movie because it's such a giant theater. And, you know, there's like a thousand rows of seats and stuff like that. So I couldn't see it in like an IMAX.

There was nothing really all that close to me that I could get to. But I still got like, I think a good experience. I think it is something for people that are just kind of, I mean, the people, the real Suicide Squad are people that are listening to this right now who haven't seen it and are just looking for like a little, you know, primer.

I would see it in the movie because it is like a graphically and even like audio wise the audio files will appreciate it too because i had some good audio in my theater it does kind of tickle the senses in that way but i also had i counted it this time because i said this before black widow i said man there was a lot of trailers i had like commercials i think there was a car commercial in there with the actors speaking over a thing and i'm like oh god and i think I had the same trailers because it's the same genre, right? So obviously you're going to have kind of the same trailers. 25 minutes of trailers. It was exactly 25 minutes, which is absurd. And I got to the movies 10 minutes late. It was like, I think it was a 6.45 movie. And I got there at 6.55 and it was already 10 minutes in. And then we had another

sit through another 50 minutes trailers. Not one person was in the theater when I got there at 6.55 and it was already 10 minutes in. And then we had another sit through another 15 minutes trailers. Not one person was in the theater when I got there 10 minutes in. We ended up getting two people in. So my brother and I and two other people, four people total, which is crazy. Even with like, I think they had, I don't know,

throughout the day, probably about 15 to 20 showings on different formats and stuff like that. But still, that was a yikes, even though it's on HBO Max. That's crazy. My theater was sold out. It's it's packed see that's what i don't get and i i you know i had a few people tell me that and i was like i don't understand why it was this way and the theater even the movie theater parking lot wasn't too crowded so i i don't understand what was going on why compared to you know usually like when i see that like when i have an experience like you had i start thinking like oh yikes the box office for this not going to be great and they said the box office for suicide squad was kind of disappointing like even in the pandemic you know the delta

variants running wild they were like it's not what we expected it to do which worried me because like even if you're you have the attitude that you have where you were like kind of so so on some of the aspects of the movie i feel like you would agree that this is kind of where we want them to go in the future at least more in this direction so the fact that it didn't do overwhelmingly great at the box office worries me that dc will be like maybe that was a misstep because i don't think it is a misstep no no dc if you're listening any you know we have Bob Iger's a listener. We have Kevin Feige is a longtime listener. Whoever the fuck is in charge of DC, get them to listen because you guys are in the right spot.

You said it good too. Like you said it best about like building up these other side characters, making it bright. It doesn't have to all be, you know, Batman and Superman versus the world and have these like grand scale things. You could have some fun with certain characters. That's how you build a universe you know what i mean as much as you know robert downey jr being iron man was so important to marvel but just as important was kind of just growing it out and the infinity infinity war worked because you had the guardians coming in you had dr strange playing a huge role

and you had you know obviously the avengers but then you had black panther and the wakanda scene all that stuff like i'm getting goosebumps just talking about the fucking thing i'm such a goddamn nerd but all that stuff worked and it's because you had so many different things and that's why people were cheering during the portal scene and stuff like that they had all these you know connections with characters so it's like they listen and to be honest you guys fuck up superman and batman so much you can't rely on them anymore you destroyed destroyed that brand. But yeah, you said it perfect. And I will say, I went into the theater and just because no one was there,

I was like, uh-oh, this is a red flag. Because I saw the same thing where I think it said they were on pace to be like the number one box office for the weekend, but it was still falling short of expectations. But you know, like we're living in weird times, man. Especially when you can just watch it on your couch on HBO Max.

It is the summer. People have lives, not me me but other people have lives and you could just like you can and and if it was doing well enough around the country I wasn't like oh my god I actually kind of preferred it because when there's when I'm literally like the only person in the theater that's you know I'm not bothering anyone I just started taking notes on my phone so I could make sure the podcast came out well so I just took notes on my phone as if I was in my living room. It was a win-win for everyone involved, except for the movie theater. They probably took a bath.

Yeah. I was going to say, speaking of it being on HBO Max, if you haven't seen it yet, reminder, it's on HBO Max. So you get a seven-day free trial or whatever. I would say it's worth getting a trial just to watch this movie. There's some behind-the-scenes extras on there that I checked out. It was pretty cool. They have a little 10-minute documentary on James Gunn, the way he would play music for the actors on set, which I know he did with Guardians as well, kind of to get them in the mood, get them in the vibe of the movie.

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like a bouncy ball in his little cell he kills a bird right away which as a bird guy yourself you must have been upset about that i I mean, a couple of birds. I was not happy jumping ahead. The bird murder that happens later in this, the fucking like flames, offensive is the word I use to describe it. It's all capital letters. I am in the movie. I'm in the movie theater in my notes and I did a little double tap to get all caps lock offensive, this weeding it off. And I was like,

what the fuck was that? Jimmy, Jimmy gun just coming out fucking blazing on it off. And I was like, what the fuck was that? Jimmy, Jimmy gun, just coming out, fucking blazing on my ass. And like you said, you start with Johnny Cash. And I looked at my brother and I go, oh, here we go. Cause again, one thing we were really excited about was the soundtrack of it all. And we're going to throw fucking Johnny right out to the fucking, right into our eardrums off the bat. We're like, all right, this is a James Gunn production here.

He just knows how to put music to movies. And this had a very different soundtrack than the guardians movies it wasn't all throwback there were a lot of modern tunes in it but every song he put in i just said like fuck this guy knows how to set the tone of a movie with a song he understands it and that was another issue that the first suicide squad movie had when everything came out with uh batman versus superman getting bad reviews the studio panicked and they rehired a new studio to completely re-edit suicide squad and david ayers edit became edited by the company that did the trailer they literally hired a trailer company to edit the movie and clem they put a new song in every scene it was just like bohemian rhapsody here's seven nation army here's and it was all like fun songs that everyone knows but it almost became a karaoke movie and that's not like

what you want especially where david ayers shot such a dark grounded realistic like zack snyder first movie so the mesh just did not work at all it was just very strange so getting that corrected here was very cool that's a problem when you do have like if you just play nothing but the hits nothing but the hits nothing but the motherfucking hits you do something like that in a movie it does it just feels like like you said a karaoke movie where you need to kind of have someone that's a good song but not everyone's heard of half the songs in the guardians movies which i love at least guardians too like i've never heard half of those songs until the guardians movies and it's just like but it's absolutely perfect in terms of its fit and it just kind of keeps you going and like you know time warner warner brothers that everyone i call i'm sure their catalog is extensive and it sounds

like they just lumped everything in they did the old fucking meme where they're slapping that on throw a fucking like song everyone knows in there but it doesn't play well unless you're doing like sing or something like that. A kid's movie. And trust me, those movies, the movies that are for kids where they have, it's usually covers or something. It's not like the originals, but just movies where you can take the song and enjoy that. And the kids obviously love it because it's bright and on the screen. Those movies are worth their weight in gold. Sing 2 coming out.

We got a Sing 2 coming out and parents are happy. Parents are in the streets for this one, Rob. Wow, you you're gonna be camping out for sync too like it's end game so we we meet the suicide squad task force x right away amanda waller just basically assumes you know the concept of the suicide squad right away she's like all right you know the deal we're putting fucking bombs in their heads if they don't't comply, we're blowing them up. Suicide Squad. They're all expendable. And they look ridiculous. We have Boomerang. He was in the first movie. We have Michael Roker on this team. We have Javelin. We have Savant. And they have this cool introduction. Pete Davidson's character, Weasel. They have that slow motion walk. They get sent in. And we realize pretty quickly they are not the real task force x or at least they are but they're really there to cause a diversion for another team the blood sport peacemaker king shark rat catcher team we've got the polka dot man on that that squad as well now this was shocking because pete davidson i think is the first one or weasel's the first

one to go down which was such a funny scene when he just starts flailing in the water. And everyone realizes, like, did anyone see if Weasel could fucking swim? Rick Flag is like, oh, damn, Rick Flag, another character from the first Suicide Squad. And they didn't. Weasel drowns, or at least we think until, you know, spoilers, mid credit scene. And Pete Davidson is the first one to go out and he allegedly sold the suicide squad out and he's like all right guys we cut the deal i'm here i brought the suicide squad here test for sex he gets his fucking face blown off i mean right off the bat sets the tone for the movie the entire team starts to go down nathan fillion's character with the arms that like went and started smacking

everybody on the head hysterical dead ja, dead, Javelin dead. He gives his Javelin to Harley Quinn and he's like, use this for, and he goes out Harley's pissed that she never got to learn, you know, the final word of what he wanted to say. And the diversion works because the other suicide squad, very successful in getting in. They see the explosion. They're like Amanda Waller. What's going on with that? She's like, don't worry about it. That's the diversion. I guess

you could kind of say this for both teams and every member of the Suicide Squad, but very much Masters of the Universe vibe, where they are like the misfits, weird-ass, the disconnected kid or whatever the fuck his name is. You know, he's just like hit-punching people, and they're just like, what's going on? Very fucking funny.

And I like how they they set the tone right away boom this is going to be a fucking gore fest my brother asked me as we were sitting into our seats he goes is this rated r and i was like yeah i'm pretty sure i remember the red band trailer i'm like when it's a red band trailer it gets a little crazy and by the end of the movie i honestly said this might have been nc-17 because it was fucking gory. James Gunn, I feel like he was like, you know what? I don't have to worry about like the kiddie breaks being on for like Marvel where there's no real gore and it can't really be too explicit. They still want to get the kids in and stuff like that.

He just let it fucking fly. And James Gunn, like I have, you you know we all have james gunn guardian james gunn there's a there's a filmmaker james gunn that probably likes to do like this whatever the fuck you can and he's kind of had to be home you know he's been working for the mouse for a long time they don't like when half the people in the movie have been dismembered their heads sliced in half and all that kind of stuff he also probably wrote this in a dark place he probably wrote this thinking he was no longer going to be doing marvel movies he had his little babies he lost his guardians family they were snatched from him from a tweet from a decade earlier so i feel like jimmy might have wrote this in a really dark place

i just want to give him a hug right now i just want to tell him everything's going to be okay i mean he knows that now guardians 3 is going to come out it's going to smash he has the holiday special coming out yeah but damn james fuck that's all i can say after that opening scene some gory shit i mean we even saw dick and balls in the suicide squad at one point there was a dick and balls i missed the dick and balls everyone keeps telling me with dick and balls i was like i that completely my dick my dick radar is completely off right now i have to recalibrate it i guess it was when uh peacemaker and bloodsport were going through the village killing who you know we find out to be the heroes

and one of them just like i think like pulled down a curtain and we just saw dick and balls yeah that's just like oh whoa okay this is some superhero movie but it feels like warner brothers dc whatever the studio that has always been like the ones that are getting in the filmmaker's way where the snyder cut is like he's like that's not my movie the air cut he's like that's not my movie feels Feels like they left James Gunn the fuck alone. And we're like, do whatever you want. We're not going to interfere. And he was like, all right, cool. I'm going to get wild. And we learned that the task force X mission is to go to Jotunheim, this former Nazi era laboratory where they hold a secret experiment known as project starfish and they have to destroy it. So they have to go as an anti-American regime. We could get overthrown. They want to use Project Starfish against us.

We talked about Starro from the trailer. We were excited about Starro, and I feel like he lived up to all expectations and more. By the end of this movie, which we'll get to the end, it didn't just feel like an expendable CGI fight fight like the first suicide squad very much had like i don't even remember who the villain at the end of the suicide squad fight was it was like cara de laveen and someone else i don't know who she was fighting but when they showed the starfish like getting off the guy's face and what it does to your face holy shit that was that was some nc17 shit yeah and star like you said big and when those things are just raining down from the sky you just feel like you're completely fucked

so yeah adam is like definitely vagina armpit he's like little starfish coming out all right so i wasn't the only one i didn't have to be bonked or anything i was like that's a vagina that's a vagina that is shooting out fucking little baby stars weasel drowning the team to reveal of how they kind of just did it that was very james gunny i feel like i you know right off the bat i was laughing in a serious spot and all that kind of stuff and then shout out my birds getting revenge as they're eating uh what's his name after his head blows up yeah it's no savant or they are though they're after he oh yeah. I think you're right. He got his head exploded. And then it says, like, Warner Brothers Presents.

And I was like, we're fucking making. I love all of those titles. Those titles throughout the movie, that was straight comic book splash page. Like, really, when Kinshark rips the guy apart, there was some, like, slow motion gore parts where you're like, okay, that's James Gunn being, like, a filmmaker, an artist. Where those frames are like paintings. Even the Harley Quinn one where it's like the mission is your time. And then it changes to like save Harley. But they change it from like fire to like smoke.

I thought that was a nice little touch on it as well. So they definitely nailed some of like the, that was a very nice touch. A little chef's kiss on all that kind of stuff. Even Harley's escape sequence with the flowers and the cartoons behind her i thought that was awesome i absolutely love that scene and then she gets the javelin too you know yeah and large said he goes is this the way that harley her like world it looks to her as she's just killing people she just sees flowers and happiness so i thought that was a pretty good quote by the big man and the way she uses the javelin at one point she like puts it into a guy's foot and

like does like a jump over him with it oh my god i mean some brutal scenes we'll get to all of that rick flag's team like i said ambush savant captain boomerang blackguard tdk javelin and mongol all dead however the distraction allowed for blood sports team peacemaker king shark polka dot man and rat catcher 2 to enter the country undetected the flag is captured we think by villains at this point we find out later are rebel soldiers and the squad convinces the rebellion leader to assist them after peacemaker and blood sport go through their entire camp killing each and every person and in some of the funniest ways to blood sport uses the Mandalorian fire at points to his advantage,

much better than Din Djarin uses it. Actually. I think one of the funniest moments in the movie is John Cena walking past the guy and just slicing them up a hundred times as he walks past John Cena was so fucking good. And the chemistry between him and Idris Elba was incredible. It almost reminded me of that quill Thor, like battling for supremacy thing

i hope bando watched and learned how to use a fucking blowtorch because that is how you use a goddamn blowtorch this is gonna come off people are you're probably mad at me for this take but i'm gonna stand by it i just i don't know what it was maybe it's because my in my world and i was introduced to him as a stringer bell not as proper age but with his fancy boy accent and john cena is the face's face right in terms of wrestling i just i felt like listen i love cursing one of my favorite things in the world to do is one of my biggest weaknesses is that i curse too much even on podcasts when i'm listening i'm like i'll like hit fast forward and every time i fast forward it's myself cursing i understand sometimes it's a little too much i couldn't i just didn't believe

their cursing uh eat yourself because you know for fuck's sake i was like it just wasn't hitting right and i'm a i'm a connoisseur of curse comedy and i did not like the cursing done by them i like cursing there was good cursing done in this movie that's just me john cena is one of my favorite curses in the movie if not my favorite when he's like nobody likes to show off and he's like unless what we're showing off is dope as fuck i got a huge laugh out of my whole theater everyone was loving it well i'll say i think half my theater was loving it too but it was only like two of the four people but still i mean like the percentages is there that's why it's it's like i think it's a me thing more than anyone else. But I'm just saying like,

that was a legitimate like gripe I had right off the bat was I just, I don't know, like the fake jerk offs and stuff like that. It felt like it was like watching like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny doing it. I just couldn't buy that. It was like someone that has a little bit more of an edge to them. You know what I mean?

So that was just a personal thing for me. I think maybe i i've been uh like worn down by i've seen some of the earlier john cena comedies that he's done like with tina faye and amy poehler the cock blockers comedy i've seen him curse enough where i'm like i'm used to it now john he's an actor he's trying to get this hollywood career going exactly and the other thing was um the i liked how how they, they made, they may, I'm going to just keep calling him stringer. Cause my brain doesn't work right.

Call him by their real names anymore. When they kind of did the thing with the kids where he's like, we have your daughter. She's going to get sent through the American penal system, which like American penal system about dragging this one, which I think John, I think James Gunn also wanted to get some things off his chest. You know, about certain James Gunn made a pretty political suicide squad

movie. Yeah. He did. And he didn't like bash you over that with it but if you were just paying attention you got it loud and clear um and i've said this in the past the worst thing about having kids other than the lack of sleep and the lack of money and the lack of basically time is that they could be used against you in situations like this and the only positive to it all is that if like someone has a gun on you you go listen i have kids and there's a chance they may take the gun back. This is at least what the movies have taught me. So as a parent, I felt for him because the guy probably would be very happy.

Those Crocs look extremely comfortable. I just became a Croc guy. I'm very excited about becoming a Croc guy. Being in prison may not be so bad if you get a free pair of Crocs. Everyone was rocking those, those bright orange Crocs. They're pretty sweet. I noticed that as well. You know what? I was like, Oh, they give them orange Crocs. That's like they actually get the orange color for them and everything. I guess Crocs maybe sends those to prisons or something. I don't know.

It makes sense. They're comfortable. They're pretty cheap and you can't like hang yourself. You don't need shoelaces. Right. So it does like it's kind of make a ton of sense. I was, I was, that was my introduction. So if any of any listeners out there that work in prisons, if you have Crocs out there, it's like I know the nurse,

I know like medical field, they're big in the medical field. So they're big in the penal system too. Very, very interesting stuff. Also, guy almost killed Superman with a kryptonite bullet. Tip of the cap right there. I gotta respect that.

Badass, he put Superman in the ICU. Yeah, his whole like weapon system that were coming off his chest. I loved Bloodsport as a character. I liked his helmet as well with just like the blank face, the icu yeah his whole uh like weapon system that were coming off his chest i loved blood sport as a character i like this helmet as well with just like the blank face but almost like the teeth by the bottom i thought that was cool we didn't know who he was going to be for a long time it was debated i don't know how much or i don't know much about blood sport as a character in the comics but he seemed very similar to dead shot from the last movie who will smith played has a story with

his daughter whereas you know his daughter was taken away from him. It's not necessarily the American juvenile system or whatever, but it's sort of similar. And I thought he was just more well executed in this one with becoming a leader and all that. Maybe it's just Idris being a great actor. But, yeah, I was into it. And I'm going to say this, too, now that I think about it. Stringer only cursed when Stringer had a curse because he was pissed because he was like a businessman stringer bell this guy is not stringer bell but he it's always he's always going to be stringer in my mind just like karketty's going to be karketty instead of littlefinger as he

crushed it in game of thrones so i have to say like the cursing thing it's probably more that i was just like he was just throwing around oh for fuck's sake like five times in 10 minutes i thought it was a little much and that's coming from someone who adores cursing more than anything in the world did you have this court when they're talking about corto maltese which is the name of the island where they went yep did you get i got jurassic park island vibes isla nublar and i was like oh we're going to jurassic park i thought it was a jurassic park island for like five minutes but my brain is like not able to think like that i could totally and even some of the like dark scenes kind of look like the forest in jurassic park like when it was like dark and rainy in

jurassic park but we learn on this journey more about polka dot man who i loved we he starts to get like this weird like face rash where polka dots are glowing out of his skin it looks really gross it looks like something you would see on the like a garbage pail kid or something and he has to go expel his polka dots twice a day because his mother did experiments on all her kids and she tried to make them into superheroes and you know something went wrong with his and some of the others died and it's a dark story and he was just emo and kind of wanted to die the whole time and he didn't want to be superior but his polka dots would burn people kind of gruesomely and i loved this when he would look at the suicide squad he would see his mom and all of them by the time we

saw his mom as fucking starro oh my god i was like losing i was a knee slapper i was i was losing my mind laughing you go into these these movies with these kind of like forgotten about comic book characters and now you kind of go with like the the radar i'm gonna fall in love with these guys and i didn't know how it was gonna happen with them especially you didn't know when you were gonna lose characters too right especially after the opening scene which i think everyone appreciated i think most people thought would be coming they're gonna let it be known right away people are gonna die not everyone's coming back from the suicide squad that's kind of how the suicide squad works um and polka dot man i think he kind of stole the show for a little bit yeah i mean him and king shark we all expected that we would love

king shark and i feel like he lived up to expectations every time he almost died in this movie i was like no no like when uh he grabs onto star i think star like throws him through a building at one point i was, you gotta be kidding me. I thought his little friends were gonna kill him in the water when I saw that blood. I mean, the fact that he survived makes me very happy. I wanna see more of King Shark in the future. I hope that that,

that was probably a James Gunn thing more than anything. And he's like, trust me guys, you're gonna wanna keep this one. I brought Groot and I made Groot the fucking like star of the first Guardians and then baby Groot the star of the second. You're gonna wanna keep this this i brought root and i made group the fucking like star of the first guardians and then baby group the star of the second you're gonna want to keep this guy around you're not gonna want to you know fucking put him up on the wall every time soon you don't want that shark going around and i tell you like out of every superhero i've ever seen the big screen i

identified most with king shark very basic always always hungry and just like just trying to have fun looks at butterflies flying in the air just trying to make like i would have been running at the aquarium watching he's like oh i can't come in i wear this guy's mustang like so funny i went out to the bathroom and i missed that scene and i re-watched i kind of just so i but the thing is i originally was going to go on my phone turn on hbo max on my phone. And as I'm walking, which is a sweet little life hack, if you could do it. But I was like scrubbing. It wasn't the service. Wasn't it?

Because I can't seem to work. I came home, watched it to fill in the gaps before the podcast. And that fucking mustache line slay me. That was very much Guardians. Yeah. So I that absolutely killed him. He was kind of the Groot of this movie. You said it, but I could see in The Suicide Squad 2,

or I guess it would be 3, if that ever happens, him having a little baby and then for merchandising, the baby King Shark walking around in those little shorts. Oh, my God. Are they going to call it Baby Shark? That's probably, that's definitely copyrighted. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Prince Shark. Prince Shark. And it's going to be a little young shark. And the fact that it's Sylvester Stallone instead of Vin Diesel, which is just like the original Vin Diesel. It's absolutely perfect. The squad's next objective is to capture the Thinker. He was the metahuman scientist in charge of Project Starfish. He worked with Star of the Conqueror for 30 years. And he has, you know, just like in the comics, he has all of these little like syringes going into his skull he has a great character design he just looks like a comic book character through

and through and this movie felt i feel like a broken record saying this sometimes because i know i've said it about civil war i've said about certain movies here and there it felt so much like a comic book in in its weirdness in its chapters in the titles on screen and the goriness in the funny dialogue it just felt straight pulled from a page and so did this scene where they all go to the bar together they're still kind of reluctant to be friendly with one another because they are each their own villain they each have their own problems and they wind up just drinking and having a good time they're like i will have one and then they're like are you really gonna be that guy they wind up having a great time the

thinker comes into the bar and all while this is going on harley quinn has been captured by uh the corte maltese government and this prince or the king or someone in charge wants to marry her he's like you encapsulate the perfect anti-american vibe like my people think it would be great for me to marry you i wanted to bring you in for this date she falls in love with him it's a very harley quinn animated series-esque sequence i felt like where it's like you get to see inside of her brain you get to see what she's thinking like cartoons like large said and then she just fucking stabs him. She kills him in cold blood. And it's kind of like a shocking played funny moment.

And she's tortured by the government. She eventually escapes. And I wanted to note this, her escape where she puts the key in her toe. And then she like goes upside down, puts the key in the lock, twists it. James Gunn said she actually did that. Margot. Yeah. I, when she did that, I, thought, I go, wow, the stunt woman killed that.

I actually thought it was the stunt woman. And Margot does it in one take. So I guess I have to recalibrate my Margot Robbie abilities, which, trust me, I was already in love with Margot Robbie before I knew she could do that. Someone like that in one room. I am over. And Bob Fox, Ranger fan. You know, noted Ranger fan. Shout out to our guys 610, right? You always get the Margot Robbie. Always get the Margot Robbie reaction. someone like that in one room i am over and bob fox ranger fan you know noted

ranger shout out our guys 610 right you always get the margot always get the margot robbie reaction she is just oh she's just the bees knees i love her so much i will say i i i haven't really watched any harley quinn outside of like the trailer for the first service that's what a million times like a horny asshole but uh the the the i don't it's hard for me and this might be because she played uh that she had a similar accent in wolf of wall street it's just weird her like her accent is so thick and i know that's not margot robbie i have a hard time being like all right that's you know harley quinn there so i will say to me only like it's like the lightest criticism possible but it is something i came away thinking during the movie but absolutely awesome scene um she kills the guy because she's like killing kids that's a step too far she is one red flag she said yes we dealt with killing

kid either as a joke or as something like that as like a plot device and all this kind of stuff like eight different times during this movie i don't know if i feel like this is because james gunn was like listen guys that pedophile tweet is just a joke i am very much anti any kind of harm for kids and i want kids to be fine but like you know weasel killed 28 children right that was like the thing i said you know when they were introducing him obviously the harley quinn thing and i like i'm missing like five killing kid jokes that's how i remember they were in this movie and i was just getting bashed over the head with it and i'm like i don't know if james gunn was doing it as a fuck you to everybody or as a like uh you know hey guys

nothing's worse than being known as the pedophile joke that's just something you know even at barstool we're like we're not gonna joke about that one today we're not gonna you know write any jokes just be like fuck these guys fry them bury them under the jail all that kind of stuff stuff so that was that was very weird that was very weird for me also the the scene where they're going out in the club or whatever and they're like just one drink and i know bob's not a big drinker or whatever but i will say like it's crazy how many times the craziest nights of your life are the one drink night it's the night that happened to me i'm not a big drinker but like it happened to me with uh glennie balsam's uh went out to the gym saloon with that crew and i just couldn't escape him that's the fucking that's the real life suicide squad glennie balls and za i mean listen glennie balls not a party guy we know

that not a party guy definitely not a party guy za is i mean pound for pound the craziest fuck here at bar school that guy like that guy when i was in vegas with him he was up you know till the till the sun was rising it's just the thing was up you know till the till the sun was rising it's just the thing is zai you know you can only do so much we lost him all saturday he didn't leave his hotel room he'll always get the uh the morning tweet where he's like never again oh so yeah the one night the one drink nights are always bad news bears and i loved how cena made sure the rat got his sebastian was yeah i like how like that's you start feeling there's a team dynamic being built is when even the rats

get in his dream and i i have to say i actually kind of fell in love with the rat i didn't think i was gonna love it i became a sebastian fan and two guys that have dealt with new york city rats our whole life we know how disgusting they are we know how like vile these creatures are by the end of this movie i was kind of feeling like idris like i wanted to like all right i'm gonna pet this little rat like it's not so bad um they are actually joined by harley once they get the thinker they go to capture her they think this is kind of what we saw in the first trailer they think that she's still kidnapped and she's so her heart is warmed by the fact that they were coming to get her. She was like, you're coming to get me. I can go back in and you can do the plan. Like that was so Harley Quinn. So funny to me. And Rick Flag and Idris were just like, fucking A.

All right, let's all right, let's go. Here we go. And they go into Jotunheim with the thinker most of the squad rigs the facility with explosives and uh rick flag and rat catcher to enter the facility underground with the thinker so they discover now that project starfish is actually starro the conqueror which i thought was funny we got kang the conqueror and star of the conqueror in one year a great year for the conquerors and he's this giant alien who controls his victims through smaller versions of himself spores like we said that attach to these faces we get to see the gory look of this guy's face who had had a star attached to him and they say like can we free these people they say nope dead corpses underneath they're kind of fucking brutal the thinker reveals that sorrow was brought

to earth by the american government we get to see this old footage as well which was some of my favorite stuff in the whole movie it kind of reminded me of like horror movie vibes alien vibes the old uh astronaut footage who have been secretly funding the experiments on the corto maltese for decades so it's actually americans behind this and the peacemaker has been sent there under secret orders to cover up america's involvement he actually turns on the team in this moment in a way where he doesn't want to turn on them but he's like this is why i'm actually here and we get a huge battle between the suicide squad i mean the jotenheim starts falling apart the explosives start going off early rick flag and

the peacemaker are put against each other this is where the movie really kicks into high gear and it was going 70 miles an hour down the highway anyway so there was like i said throughout the movie there's times i'm like oh i love this fucking movie it's it's very much what i was hoping for and then there was other points where it felt like it was like a fucking sharknado on steroids right and i say that in a nice way i'm not trying to be mean about it but it's like it was like over the top crazy and it's not as bad as sharknado by any means but there was some like candy moments whatever i think on purpose the whole reveal when after with the fight and then it says eight minutes earlier that's when the movie when it was like oh we're

back we're humming that was exactly what i loved um i got a shout out large you didn't say this too i didn't even notice this jotenheim do you know what what jotenheim what word that what that means for us no planet of the frost giants they mentioned it they mentioned jotenheim and he said it's the land of the frost giants or whatever you'll look you can be from there whatever so the fact and i'm sure we'll get corrected by the people who actually know the answer yeah but i was like oh shit i had no idea that there's a double meaning with that there was a lot of from large huh right a lot of marvel dc crossover too we got taika taika just fucking straight up the rat rat catcher which is very cool yeah so and getting those double dips obviously james gunn double dips as well so it was very cool to see that

i have to admit i was and i i understand if you watch the previews you're spoiling the movie for yourself but i loved the harley quinn joke in the previews when you find out that they're going to rescue her and she escapes that just happened though i feel like that was like a spoiler i thought that was a pretty heavy spoiler because i was like oh they're they're not going to do that and it's like whatever it doesn't really matter i just thought that was weird i also have to admit the um the staros lair when they went into the basement mostly when they get to the end where they just have in the kind of the corridor, the dead end where it's like the journalists and the different people,

the political prisoners and the old stars, it felt almost like a haunted house. And I'm not talking like this crazy wild haunted house. I'm talking like kind of like a carnival haunted house. Like the one you and me went to. Yes, exactly. They keep doing the same motions. It felt a little campy in that regard.

It didn't feel like over the top special, like a comic book movie in terms of the level but that was that's kind of like a nitpick but it did that was interesting because that that was one of my favorite parts you look like how yeah i mean that's fine maybe i'll maybe i'll go back and on hbo max and like watch for that next time but like being in that little layer where the thinker was revealing all of that i was like oh fuck this is like cool looking i like seeing the the thinker was revealing all of that, I was like, oh, fuck, this is like cool looking. I like seeing the stars on the people's faces. So I'm going to go back and watch it through maybe that lens and maybe my opinion will change a bit. But for the first watch, that was like one of the things that I thought was coolest.

And that's the thing is, as I was saying, I was like, I guarantee people like that. For me, I didn't like it. And then if I watch it again, on the tv here i'll i'll flip so it's one of those things i'm not gonna get into like a fucking fight over but it is one of those things that i was like you want to fucking tussle over it clem god man the last year has made me so tired of fighting online it's like i just have no energy left in me anymore if you ask your opinion stick to it man it's like the big lebowski well let's see your opinion man it's like your opinion man i will say that too the um the journalist line felt like another one of james good things

you know journalists getting tortured for trying to report the truth and stuff like that so yeah james james is definitely i mean the whole u.s government funding the nazis i think that was you know there's things that happened like that back in the day i think it was all in relation to that we get a big dramatic moment where peacemaker actually fucking kills rick flag and now i know you didn't see the first suicide squad but he was a pretty prominent character in that so i really expected him to survive i don't know why joel kinnaman kudos to you for making me fucking care about that character in this movie because by the time he died i was surprised and i was like oh damn fucking he was trying to do the right thing peacemaker gets him and then peacemaker almost kills rat catcher too

and that's when we get the eight minutes earlier and we get to see the second part of the team so almost tarantino-esque you know the out of sorts like here's what actually happened and we'll get to that and by the time you start getting to it and seeing what happened you see king shark playing with the dumb friends who turn against him. Very funny scene. You get to see all the stuff with Martin. I think he was. Was that his name? Nelson. Oh, come on. I don't even know his name with us for three hours. I forgot his name, that whole back and forth. And when the levels start falling with Idris on Bloodsport on each one,, you start thinking back to eight minutes earlier with Cena on top of Ratcatcher.

And you're like, oh, shit, this is about to happen. He falls right onto the level where he's supposed to. He locks eyes with Peacemaker and they each shoot each other. And now we get a call back to earlier when he said, my bullets shoot, you know, even straighter than yours. He's like, how is that possible? He says, my bullets shoot, you know, even straighter than yours. And he's like, how is that possible? He says, smaller bullets. And we see in slow motion, Idris's bullet going through Cena's, catches him right in the jugular. Awesome scene, awesome slow motion moment, something straight out of a comic book when you see the bullet kind of like unravel and explode

as the one goes through it, right? And just like one of the cooler dramatic moments and one where we know the Pe peacemaker show is coming so i thought in this moment oh i guess the peacemaker shows a prequel how we get up to this moment and i was kind of disappointed i was like we like why are you doing a prequel if we know what his fate is obviously that is not going to be the case i'm curious do you think originally peacemaker was dead here and then they were like hey do you want to do a show and he was like yeah let's do a post-credit scene and then we'll bring it back i never thought about that that would you know what i think you kind of sold me on that just blindly but i think i i you can

coast time you can you can definitely sell me on that so i'm gonna say i'll say yeah i kind of hope we call it now and then in like a week or two they're doing you know some press or something and then it comes out that that's how the whole uh peacemaker thing started so all right i could get down with that i like that and i'm definitely interested in a peacemaker show after seeing what the character was like i was worried about peacemaker i'll be honest after seeing like a homelander type character like kind of over and over again after the boys i was like i hope he's not like homelander i hope he's not like john walker where he's just like but he's not he is his own guy you know i care about peace even if that means killing everyone

in the way of it i like peacemaker killing women and children we got back to the killing another joke that i'm telling you we just cross them off as we go i love the fight in the reflection of the helmet yeah yeah that was really cool with them and even though i didn't see the first uh suicide squad i did the same reaction i was like i thought that dude was gonna make it he just seemed like a good guy and seemed like even though this movie's not all about good people or good guys it did feel like he was going to be one of the guys that at the very least sacrificed himself at the last minute for the team and then like i said milton dying he dies the like the conversation about his name that had me cracking

up so that like those are the the high points for me and then again that eight minutes earlier everything that led to the uh peacemaker showdown that was some of the high points for me from the beginning i loved it the aquarium scene and then the fisher you know coming and attacking him and then you're in the water and all that kind of stuff the javelin you know still being a part of it all fucking thumbs up for me i loved it i forget who tweeted it but they said that scene in the aquarium it might have been someone from barstool they said it was just more beautiful than it had any right to be it was really just that one like 30 second i don't know maybe minute stretch in the movie where they had that nice classical music under it king shark was running

around with the fish and it was just like oh we could take a second to breathe and then starro fucking escapes and everything goes wrong and all that he kills the thinker he rips his own you know master's body apart brutally kills most of the military he begins taking control of the population with the fucking armpit vagina things and waller tells him all right you've got the intel your mission's complete get the fuck out of there you know congratulations guys you survived and now blood sports oh fuck but fucking starro and he becomes a leader she told him i'll turn you into a leader and he turns back with his teammates and leads them in battling starro waller attempts to execute them for this which i was kind of surprised by i guess she just wanted the intel like back she wanted it in her hands it's like all right they're going back to battle it right before she's about

to prevented by her subordinates they hit her with a pole everyone's like holy what are we supposed to do that and then they just get on the comps they're like all right well we're leading the suicide squad in the guy that was in the room in the communications room with the glasses the one that was like holy we get a kaiju on set he was king shark he was the one wearing that big rig and kind of playing like uh how james gunn's brother plays rocket raccoon on set and he was weasel on set and stuff like that i thought that was kind of cool i hope he got paid double yeah yeah we hopefully got something if not fire his agent right yeah wallace she like awesome performer like just such a mean motherfucker that's like the worst like everyone's had that substitute teacher that like scared the

shit out of him gave him nightmares that's the kind of vibes i got over her that was another critique i had that i thought could make the movie a little better if i think one or two more people in that room were strong personalities in terms of being really funny just good timing and stuff like that i thought that room could have used a little bit more of something. I don't know what it was, but once she went down, I was like, all right, I know these guys are on our side and they have like good hearts. So I'm happy they're there. But I was like, I just wish there was kind of like you said, James Gunn's brother,

like that kind of, that kind of guy. Cause he, he always, I always loved seeing him in Guardian. So it's like just kind of going one for one with another James Gunnn comic book movie uh that was that was one one thing but man she was a motherfucker she was so mean she was so she's like that in the first one too she was one of the highlights of the first where the first really was lifted up by a couple really good performances like viola davis margot robbie will smith was really good as deadshot the first one they were a couple and even uh joel kinnaman is rick flag i feel like james gunn looked at that and was like i'll take all of the best elements kind of ignore that it happened but kind of not ignore it like

it's the same thing like i don't even know if you could call this a sequel because they do kind of ignore the first one but at the same time they don't and it's they went from suicide squad to a suicide squad it wasn't like they're doing a sequel like number two in this big battle unfortunately our man polka dot man is killed he says i'm a superhero and boom star just kills him sad to see that one i would say that was the saddest death um our guy nathan hurst actually wrote in and said are you guys bummed about a certain death in the movie i know for me it was polka dot Dot Man and Brick Flag seeing him become a solid character, but then taken away from us was a huge bummer. Nathan, I'm with you. It was those two for me as well as Polka Dot Man more than anyone. Because I was I was kind of like, this is my fucking guy.

I feel like I could like cosplay as Polka Dot Man at a Comic-Con and look like Polka Dot Man. Oh, that could be that's gonna be a big hit i bet for maybe halloween or something like that we're only two months away here that could be a big and if you do it right you know you could probably find some shit that glows yeah you know it was a bummer and but also seeing him go down and he's a superhero so proud however however it's kind of like makes polka dot mom polka dot man's mom like a hero in herself because she made that superhero right well it's like the loki thing right it's like she existed to inspire the best version of polka dot man and when he looked at star and saw the the giant version of his mom

so james gunn it was like almost like uh when ego turns into pac-man at the end of guardians and you're like this is ridiculous but at this point we're in and we're going for it and it's treated kind of seriously within the movie you know they're not like polka dot man snap out of it like polka dot man is kind of like he's not the joke himself they're like yeah he's part of our team he fucking shoots these scorching hot polka dots at people that's kind of what he does somebody said too um we never find out how he gets the polka dots out of him i was like man if james got i mean that would have been that would have got insured the nc17 rating because i know he's like he pukes right we see him puking him up at one we see him like

walk away into the forest and i was like is he pissing out the polka dots like i didn't know what he was doing like i kind of like that it's left into a mystery because you're like how the fuck does he get those polka dots out of him it's just a rash he says in the beginning yeah it's not mary when chris elliot starts getting like little pimples here and there and then it's the love pimples or whatever he calls it unbelievable something about mary by the way a little tangent got just a fucking masterpiece i know the the mom passed away the other day she was in oh really yeah the rest in peace yeah rest in peace but something about mary was one of those movies that was like it had some really raunchy fucking scenes that like stick with you the hair gel scene and a bunch of other things

and it just fucking delivered i'm gonna watch some of them everyone the homework tonight watch something about mary this weekend that's what i want everyone to do do it for uh you know the actress who just passed away and just for all time like i feel like some of those comedies from like the late 90s get kind of forgotten because as time goes on and then we had that kind of next golden era with like the hangover old school uh wedding crashers and stuff like that that fucking movie man oh my god i gotta check it out still a cringe i've seen it i know i've seen it because i remember my grandmother, rest in peace,

showing it to me and a couple of my cousins when we were way too young, way, way, way too young and it being a thing. But because I was so young, I genuinely like, I remember nothing about it. So that's gonna, I'm going to put that down as my homework and I'm going to go watch it and it'll be like a new movie for me. Bob, when you watch it, I want you to tweet out the things that you think you were too young to see because i was about three things right on the top of my head that i could think of that i mean i will never watch that movie with my children i will

i was honestly probably seven or eight years old when i when i was shown that by my grandmother and she also i convinced her man grandma fox was the best i convinced her that my mom would always let me have coffee she was making herself a coffee and i was like eight. I convinced her that my mom would always let me have coffee. She was making herself a coffee. And I was like eight. And I was like, yeah, my mom lets me have coffee. And in reality, she had maybe let me have one sip of her coffee at a family party once. Like, and my grandma was like, okay, I'll make you a cup. And she did. And I was bouncing off the walls. And that was like my mom, every time she dropped me off after that was like, remember no coffee, no, no coffee for the little eight year old. But yeah, never, never listen to kids. That's the one thing out there.

That's how Mama, Grandma Fox as much as anybody else. If they say your parents let you do it, do not believe a fucking word. Because Sienna tells people we let her like fucking, you know, white fireworks. It would be pretty awesome because she has little hands. It would make it easier to do sometimes but we don't do that um eventually harley pierces a hole in starro's eye with a javelin a crazy like visual artsy look of this where she's inside the eye and we get the rats going inside the eye and as someone that has always heard that myth about new york where it's like you're always one square foot away from a rat if you're in new york that's

how many there are the visual of the 10 000 rats biting star off the inside it was disgusting jumping over idris when he's like covering up i hated it i mean mcmahon tweeted out this did pretty definitively solve that whole animal debate. If you've got 10,000 rats, you're winning. I had no idea what the tweet was about. I'd seen the McMahon. McMahon's not one to, you know, eat his words all that much. And I saw him eat his words, and I'm like, wow, what caused that?

And I wasn't even thinking about the Suicide Squad coming out then. And then I saw the movie, and I go, oh, yeah, yep. So, I mean, anyone who wants to listen to one of the all-time yeah all time great podcasts you go back to mixtape it was with our boy yp back in the day obviously tyler as well and just uh i listened to that on the train ride home trying to like you know i was like kind of like half awake i was so tired and i just stayed up the whole time because i was laughing at the nonsense of it all but i mean i never heard that new york city fun fact isn't even the word for unfun fact scary fact i don't think it's true i think it's like an urban myth but like that's been like a

thing that's you grow up around here people say it yeah and just seeing them gnaw it away i also when harley quinn was like i know what i have to do with the javelin like 10 minutes before she did it and i liked kind of the misdirect because i was i said my brother that's going in the fucking eye and then it goes in the eye but it's all water so it doesn't really work out the way it did i appreciated that little misdirect as well um again didn't appreciate watching rats gnaw the fuck out of something it makes it reminds me of um in game of thrones the tickler when he they light the right rat's ass and it like chews through the the chest of their like enemies oh my god man that's some fucked up shit and i want to note shout out to james gunn for casting taika watiti in this very

very tiny role because it was perfect for what it was when you see taika watiti at the end you just want to like that guy like we all love taika so it makes that moment a little more heartwarming even though we didn't get to see a ton of rat catcher and rat catcher 2's backstory we saw it a little bit in the beginning this little moment right before she unleashes them and kind of like makes her dad proud with the technology and whatever was like oh man like he gave every character their own little thing which i loved and uh with the military distracted she takes control of the government pledges democratic elections uh the this is the uh leader of the um rebel camp they use their drive as leverage and bloodsport tells waller listen release me and my teammates or else we're going to put this out onto the entire world everyone will know the u.s

involvement and that is the suicide squad we've got mid and post credit scenes in the mid credit scene we see that weasel actually survived He coughs up some water on the beach. He starts running around. Very funny. And Peacemaker also alive. As I sort of referenced before, we see the two people from that control room, the blonde girl, who I believe is James Gunn's in real life girlfriend. And the guy that was kind of funny, he was the King Shark on set.

And they look over Peacemaker and they're like, I can't believe he survived. And they say, yeah, what do you need him for? They're like, oh, nothing, just to save the fucking world. And Peacemaker, HBO Max, that will come out, I don't know, later this year, early next year. Looking forward to that. I think they're done filming it already. Seeing where this story goes, seeing what other obscure DC villains James Gunn is going to bring into the fold. I just like the idea of James Gunn is going to bring into the fold i just like the idea of

james gunn's dcu coming in into the play and uh i saw a report that said he's already like signed on to do more stuff for dc if i mean this would be my dream scenario if he wraps up guardians 3 the holiday special with marvel and he's like all right all right, that's, you know, my trilogy. I want to wrap a nice bow on that and put that in the past, make him the Kevin Feige of the DCU, put him at the helm of it. He knows comic books. He understands source material so well. Look at what he did with guardians. Look at what he did with this. He can take the most obscure characters and make them work on the big screen. I feel like after this, give James Gunn the keys. I would not be against it that's for damn sure just seeing this entire how it all happened and living through it right where

he was very happily the marvel guy and absolutely crushed it on all levels and then seeing him basically become like basically starting his own you know joining the rival family if it was like right and just wcw and wwf yeah it's it's truly crazy and then if d if dc does kind of rise up and turn them into like it becomes like the the the movie theater wars instead of the monday night wars and it makes everyone get better that would be awesome not that i don't think marvel's resting on their laurels by any means um but i'd be down for that i'd also i'd either i want to see james A, that would be best case scenario. He kind of becomes like the foggy, if he can handle it, which, cause he may not want to do like, just be so comic driven. But if he does, or give him one of the big boys, give him Superman, give him Superman and let's fucking make Superman work because Batman, the Batman's already in production. That's already had a bunch of different things. You got to superman back on the track you have to fucking do it um i actually this was a note i made i think now that mar uh dc they had i wouldn't say this was like a slam dunk like this wasn't like a iron man redefining the entire year

i think it was very good though very good i think they laid some good groundwork they need to hit on the bat and the batman's already been shot right are they just i think they laid some good groundwork. They need to hit on the Batman. And the Batman's already been shot, right? Are they just in- I think they're maybe doing reshoots, but they're mostly done with the Batman. I saw a trailer for the original trailer for it before this movie. And that just made me so excited for that

with the Something in the Way, Nirvana, the Riddler stuff, that has to hit. I mean, I already own so much merch for it because I'm banking on it hitting. I'm like buying the penny stocks, hoping that when this comes out, people going to be all about battinson because i already am exactly battinson i forgot about battinson it's a good name they have a good name right off the bat so they need they need the batman hit and they need i'm sure there's probably

at least one more dc movie like in production already they need those two to hit or you'd like to have like three or four wins here. You need to like take the series. If it was a baseball, you know, analogy, you can't be like, all right, suicide squad was good.

Batman sucked this, you know, next movie Aquaman two sucked. And then it's just like, I, then I, as like the casual fan that will be more than happy to put my money towards DC,

you're going to lose me again. I'm going to be like, well, you guys have to prove it to me again. And then by the time you get James gun or someone else that I can like believe in, it's going to be like five. I'm going to be like, well, you guys have to prove it to me again. And then by the time you get James Gunn or someone else that I can like believe in, it's going to be like five years down the road. And it's like, what the fuck was the point of this whole thing? So I hope they do it. I'm not a hundred percent sold just because I've seen DC, but if you tell me James Gunn has a big hand in it, I'll believe you.

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He said, I think a Green Lantern or Cyborg show could be really sick. We talked a little bit about Deadshot earlier, who Will Smith played in the first Suicide Squad. He's always been one of my favorite DC villains, one of my favorite DC characters like that. I don't know if it's too soon to go back to him. I mean, they redid Suicide Squad. You don't have to go to Will Smith. You could cast someone else as well. I think a Deadshot show would be pretty cool. The Flash they did on the Flash and Arrow and Supergirl they did on cw you know not for everybody i kind of liked them there can't be cw shows but they're fun king shark actually made his first on-screen appearance in the flash he was very different he was a fucking muscular jacked shark who wasn't as funny so what

did he say green arrow green lantern he said green lantern or cyborg would be maybe sick i kind of want a green lantern one i feel like that like you and the way that shows are being made now it almost is better to kind of like take your time with someone like that and you show up the local i agree yeah and if it fails in the movies it's going to be like well we this up again like i feel like green lantern is too important to dcu to just keep them up right so that would be one for me um trying to think of like a bill like like the justice league dark would be cool even like just seeing a different type of thing like that seeing an elseworlds story if they did like and this is i mean probably they

couldn't do this on hb max because it requires all of the big guns but one day they should make a movie using the injustice video game storyline where superman is the villain against the rest of the justice league because it is fucking awesome it is really really cool so i mean that for the far future if you want to do an elseworlds thing but there's so that's one that i think people should leave in the comments like what dc show would you like to see on hbo max there's so many great characters out there villains heroes anti-heroes which one would you like to see i mean even deathstroke joe mangi and elo got to come in at the end of justice league

and never got to be anyone else so like a show with him bring him into peacemaker if you want give him a cameo there i would be in for a deathstroke show i don't think it works as a show but i i just want bane i want bane back i want bane done right so that's definitely not a show if they did like what if they did like i know they're doing a team titans but what if they did a bat family show and it was like robin um nightwing and red hood and batgirl against you know the gotham city ro Rogues gallery in a world where maybe Batman is like passed on or I don't know it's set it in the fucking Nolan verse or where he's gone I don't know you can't set it in the Nolan verse don't fuck with the Nolan verse

actually I don't want to not yet don't fuck with that do not touch that do not touch that's like fucking putting it for the kids do not touch and like taping it too so they know not to touch it but i do think like there is a chance that they kind of have to build this thing at a reasonable pace and i think tv might be a better way to do that and with the world is a streaming world now it's not like i was in my i had a some of my parents because we were getting our floors done and it was like the polyurethane i was getting high off the fumes in the house so i slept at their house and they're like oh if you want to like watch tv there's a cable and then here's like the roku remote if you want to stream i was like i have no use for the tv right now the meds already lost during the day i have no use for regular tv this day and age though like it feels like i'm just watching

mini movies when it's on a streaming network and it's on i mean loki was completely like that like we talked about it every week felt like a 60 minute marvel movie and it was fucking awesome and like if you want to do that it's probably i don't know if it's more expensive to do it like that it probably is if you're shooting more content like if you're shooting rather than two hours like 10 hours of content but i really do think it's worth it i think it's worth it in building characters i think people are more likely to get hooked on it um dylan had about writes in it says, what made this one so much better than the last one? Clem, you didn't see the last one. I've kind of touched on certain things throughout it. I think the last one suffered a lot from the editing

dilemma where they brought in that trailer company to recut the entire movie. It had jumbled up tone where you didn't know if they were going for the karaoke or the dark thing it had a lot of time spent on character backstories where this one kind of got right into it kind of showed us backstories along the way as the characters were learning about each other we were learning backstories i think this one was 10 times better than the last one to be honest and i wasn't someone who was so negative about the suicide squad i think i actually the first one i think i actually defended it more than most because i liked some of the performances even though i didn't love jared leto's joker i kind of liked that he was brought in in a way where basically in that one harley was on another mission where they took her from jail

and sent her on a suicide mission but jared leto broke out of jail as the joker and was like i'm gonna fucking go pick harley up and get her off this mission and she was like yeah mr j come pick me up i liked that storyline so there were elements about it that i liked i didn't think the whole thing was horrible but i thought the tone of this one the understanding of the source material willing to get wacky with it having the weight weight of actual people dying, a big body count. The last one didn't have a big body count. The last one, pretty much everyone made it till the end. Really?

Yeah, this was like the Suicide Squad. Yeah. This just felt like what it should be. Felt a lot more comic book-y, felt a lot brighter. It was a lot funnier. And it felt like it knew what it wanted to be. And it was a James Gunn, crazy, zany superhero movie. So what's the difference between the first one and the second one?

James Gunn. That's one way to say it, right? You brought James Gunn in and you had to make a James Gunn movie. And it really worked out. Harry Heichelt said, will you watch Aquaman 2 if we are guaranteed that King Shark is in it? I'll watch Aquaman 2 no matter what. Have you seen Aquaman, Clem? I have not seen Aquaman.

Aquaman is an enjoyable movie. It was a surprising one because you know what? I always liked Aquaman. Like growing up, I liked Aquaman. I thought he was cool. And then you watch Robot Chicken and you watch the cartoons and you watch the memes and you're like, oh, fuck, people hate Aquaman, don't they?

He's kind of the butt of the joke. And then the new 52 came out when I was in high school, which is where DC kind of said, all right, we're starting over at issue one with all of our series. We want to revamp everything. And the Aquaman one was written by Jeff Johnson. It was so badass. They made him an awesome character with awesome villains.

Just really cool. So I was excited when they cast Jason Momoa as Aquaman. I was like, that's a badass actor. I really like Jason Momoa. And I thought he was really good in the justice league i thought he was one of the highlights of that movie and then i never saw aquaman when it came out i don't know why it just was like yeah it was a dc movie so it wasn't you know urgent on the list months later i had a three chi night with trent we sat on the couch and we watched aquaman together it might have been the most enjoyable movie watching experience we ever had and i don't know if it was the three cheer the

aquaman itself but it just all hit at the same time there's weird like game of thrones elements in aquaman that i think they tried to put in there with like arthur being like all right now you're the john snow like you kind of have to be the king of this kingdom and he doesn't want to be the king of the kingdom. And he's got, you know, a half brother, I think, who was like very anti-head. It is a enjoyable movie. You got Tamora Morrison, our guy Boba Fett's in the movie. He's great in it.

I would recommend Aquaman. So yeah, I will watch Aquaman. I hope King Shark 2 is in it, or King Shark is in Aquaman 2 because that would be a great connection. This is going to sound so lame, but it's the God's honest truth. It's not even like I'm stupid. it or king shark is in aquaman 2 because that would be a great connection this is gonna sound so lame but it's the god's honest truth it's not even like i'm stupid and it's the real reason i want to talk to him because i'm the same with you i'm called drago i feel like i know what you're about to say because you want vinnie chase to be playing aquaman it's because the fake aquaman

movie was so good that doesn't even exist. I feel like they can't possibly match it. And it's the God's honest truth. I honestly, I'm like this was the one that they took out Spider-Man. They took out Spider. They squashed the insect. They squashed the bug. And there was roving blackouts in the valley that fucking

day, that weekend. And that is how broken brained I am. But it's the God's honest truth. So I how broken brained i am but it's the it's the god's honest truth so i'm i'll try to watch it but it's really it's like a really hard hurdle to get up now it's a it's a long movie so i think it's like over two hours where you're like oh geez it could have been shorter for sure but there's a lot of just like and it's not like wow this is really well made it's almost like it reminds me of a throwback superhero movie that you would watch like it'd be a super summer blockbuster that almost in the sam raimi spider-man era where you're like this is a little silly and campy but it works and it's fun we're gonna get

like a seven eight out of it right it's like we're not looking to like you know exactly another infinity war but we're just gonna have some fun you're gonna hit the high notes you're gonna see a couple of uh you know villains you like along the way yeah which is completely like it's crazy how much everything has evolved where everyone's looking for easter eggs and what does this mean and was this villain gonna appear yeah someone wrote in i forget who it was i'm sorry um that i didn't write your name down but they were like were you guys disappointed that you didn't get like batman or superman in this one and i was like i really didn't expect any of those guys in this one so no i wouldn't have minded a couple of light dc references and there might have been some that went over my head because i'm not a dc guy but i liked the kryptonite bullet and it's like maybe

one more thing like ah she's fucked batman like uh what was the name of the um that chick that that that chick creature uh looked like a He-Man. The one that jumped on the helicopter. Oh, in the beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the orange. I forget what her name was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh yeah, her and Bruce Wayne. You'd be like, really? Huh? Like, yeah, she's sort of some Poison Ivy self or like Poison Ivy, like referencing something like that. Yeah, I would have liked that.

Exactly. Before we get into our final question, which is a big one, I think, I want to tell everyone about the biggest pay-per-view of the month. That's Jake Paul versus Tyron Woodley. And I know you guys are saying, what, Robbie? You don't like these Jake Paul fights and stuff, right? Listen, what's special about it this time is we've got Dave and Big Cat on the broadcast. My rough and rowdy broadcasting partners.

It's kind of cool that i get to say that fucking dave and big cat are my partners yeah it's mostly them doing the heavy lifting i'll jump in with a line here and there but they're actually going to be on the broadcast this time the barstool sports book i think is the main sponsor of it it's going to say that on the ring i'm actually getting into it as well because tyron woodley is from the ufc world and i'm a little more uh confident in his chances against Jake Paul, the problem child, than I was with Ben Askren's. Showtime pay-per-view and the most valuable promotions presents Jake Paul versus Tyron Woodley, a five-fight pay-per-view event in Jake

Paul's hometown, Cleveland, Ohio. This will take place on Sunday, August 29th, and it'll be distributed by Showtime's pay-per-view beginning live at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific. The main event, as I mentioned, is the Problem Child, Jake Paul versus former UFC champion Tyron, the chosen one, Woodley. Woodley is, yes, a wrestler like Jake Paul, like Ben Askren and a former teammate of Ben Askren's. But he's got much better hands than Ben Askren ever had. I mean, go back, look at his knockout of Robbie Lawler. If he could connect with a shot like that with Jake Paul, I would just love to see how Jake Paul takes it punch. So I'm interested in that. I think this is a definitely the toughest challenge of Jake's career. And we'll see the main event is available

on all major cable satellite and telco pay-per-view providers for $59.99. And you can also get it on the Showtime app or showtime.com slash PPV. So there you go. Dave and Big Cat on the broadcast. That's going to be awesome. I mean, people are going to tune in just to see that. I feel like we're due for one of those crazy weird barstool moments that we could have never in a million years predicted. It's whenever like we start sniffing in the mainstream, like Big Cat doing the hot dog eating contest again doused in pita yeah something weird's gonna happen during maybe like tyron woodley gets a huge knockout and jake paul's finally out cold he gets memed

yeah exactly or like a portnoy call like there's gonna be someone that's gonna be that's gonna live on the internet forever um so so check it out i'm interested to see also bob fox talking trash about someone's hands whoa that's that's really that's a no you do that in the fucking fight game you might be the next one in that ring no no i just stay on the other side of the guardrail our final question is from patrick winem winem i hope i said that right he says where does this movie rank among the dceu for you guys as far as quality it's probably number one in front of wonder woman for me i enjoyed the snyder trilogy more so i've actually written down my full rankings with the dceu all 11 movies i think these are going to be

controversial i think i dislike some movies that people like a lot i think i like some movies that people don't really like clem i know you haven't seen all of them so how many have you seen dc movies it could be the title i'll go through my list and if you've seen them yeah you you can chime in i'll start at uh number one which is the suicide squad for me this is my number one everything i said about it earlier just makes it the most up my alley movie. It felt like this movie was made for me in a lot of ways. So this was my favorite DCEU movie. I hope they go in this direction in the future. Number two is Wonder Woman for me.

I think Wonder Woman is a really, really well-made movie with, I would say, the best scene in all of the DCEU. That No Man's Land scene gives me chills and makes the hair on my arms stand up every time i watch it every time i catch that on tnt i'll throw it on and that's also kind of how my rankings are listed like i'm not ranking these in quality like jeff d lowe does where it's like this one's a 99 this one's a 95 these are more like the most likely um uh the movies i'm most likely to go back and watch like in this order yes yes um you have seen wonder woman right and those are probably my top two we'll see what other ones i've seen but yeah those those have both been seen number three would be the first

ever dceu movie for me man of steel i know a lot of people have issues with this and i don't love superman cracking zod's neck at the end either i don't love him getting so dark with it, but there's a lot that I do love about this movie. There's the first invasion of Z three. Number four, I just mentioned Aquaman for all the reasons. Just told Clem to go watch it. It's just a fun movie. Like take some 3G and watch Aquaman. It'll be a good time. Number five is Batman versus Superman. I know it's going to be super controversial for me to put that movie ahead of some of the ones I have below it.

But I don't hate it as much as a lot of people do. I hate a lot about it i hate the i hate batman using guns and killing people and i hate how dark they went the martha stuff is so like eye roll worthy but it's got the best batman fight scene maybe we've ever seen with batfleck there's some cool bruce wayne stuff the fight between batman and superman i like so if i catch that one on tv usually i'll throw it on and see if ine stuff the fight between batman and superman i like so if i catch that one on tv usually i'll throw it on and see if i could catch the fight between batman and superman number six i would go justice league and not this act snyder justice league i know that's

controversial to put joss whedon's above snyder's i just don't want to watch a four-hour movie ever literally ever i don't want to watch a four-hour movie so the original justice league goes uh ahead of it next i would go with the original suicide squad which is going to be so controversial me putting it above some of these but i don't know suicide squad was a movie that until like i read about it more i was like all right it was bad but it wasn't horrible and then you dig into it you're like i guess it was horrible after that i would go birds of prey which is not a horrible movie by any means a movie that actually got pretty good reviews it bombed at the box office but this was just simply the most forgettable superhero movie i have ever seen in my entire life it had our guy ewan mcgregor as black mask a villain i like a lot

it had huntress in it a villain anti-hero I like a lot, had Harley Quinn. She has a great scene in the beginning where she describes a bacon, egg, and cheese. And I was like, I relate to that hard. But other than that, I don't remember anything about the movie. I watched it less than a year ago and I'm not smoking that much 3G. It was just that forgettable. After that, I would go Wonder Woman 1984. Not a great movie. Put out on HBO Max this year. Pedro Pascal kind of saved it for me with his amazing over-the-top 80s campy performance. And then I would go Zack Snyder's Justice League. And in Dead Last, one of the best-reviewed movies of the DCEU, Shazam. I don't know what it was about this movie. It didn't click for

me. I said to Jeff D. Lowe, who I saw it with on opening night, if I wasn't with Jeff, I would have walked out of the theater and not finished the movie. I actually left before the post-credits scene. Don't give a fuck. It just didn't hit for me. Zachary Levi and the kid, it just, the chemistry was so weird. I didn't like the way it was shot. I hated the villain. I didn't like the CGI. I thought it was so corny and campy. It just came off like a movie that would have came out in 2002 that like in theaters at the same time as like, I don't know, the corny Norbit or something like I did not like Shazam.

I in fact hated it and I hate very few movies. So that is my full rankings. I would go to the suicide squad, wonder Woman, Man of Steel, Aquaman, Batman v Superman, Justice League, Suicide Squad, Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman 1984, Zack Snyder's Justice League, and Shazam. I've never seen Shazam. I will say the the posters they're not doing it for me um bob fox is i think you're looking to get into a fight now bob you challenge someone's hands and now you're pissing off an entire uh comic book legion but the thing is i think dc fans have been so beaten down over the years i don't think anyone's gonna really well the snyder fans are crazy you can't criticize anything that they say um but anything else they don't really give a fuck about i mean they were

demanding that james gonna apologize for this that zack snyder's technically an executive producer on just because he didn't acknowledge the snyder verse enough and he didn't restore it into canon like i'm sorry crazy people they've gotten they've got a little too crazy too strong they got their their wish revealed i have people dming me out of the blue release the and there's some other cut of some other the air cut of the suicide squad is that okay so there it is because i'm like uh i don't know what the fuck you're talking about i so it was someone like bunch of people they must have seen that i tweeted released a snyder cut before i even knew what the snyder cut was it's like all right this guy gets us so then they're telling me

to do that. And this is probably, I guess. I'll put it in. But yeah, someone at Comic-Con just put it, released the Snyder Cut or picket sign in Clem's hand and took a picture of me. And he was like, I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. He didn't know what the Snyder Cut was.

Very funny picture for me to look at. Knowing that context, I always laugh looking at that. You're like, I don't know, Snyder Cut, release it. So make sure you listen video by the way subscribe and put in the comments what you think the next dc hbo max show should be shout out jake bass coming up with the great questions for us i got a question for you bob before we sign off yeah favorite member of the suicide squad in this set in this movie who is your number one guy

king shark it would it would be king shark i thought it would be king shark going in and it really was number two would be polka dot man mine's mine's polka dot man and number two for me was rat catcher too i just like i liked her maybe just so delightful yeah it's like she's done more for the good PR for rats than anyone. Anyone ever, baby. Maybe since Charles Entertainment Cheese. Oh, Charles Entertainment Cheese. I was going to say Ratatouille.

Yeah, Ratatouille is a good one. They make that joke and they're like, oh, come on, Ratatouille. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, shout out. I mean, we lost a good one in Polka Dot, man. But I think if you go into future Suicide Squad, knowing you're going to find some people you love and knowing you might lose them,

it might kind of get you more emotionally charged and see how everything plays out. It makes you like them more. You're like, I only had them for 45 minutes or whatever. I only had them for a little bit of time, and then they're gone. You don't risk overexposure at all doing that. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know

what you got until it's gone so you're gonna pay paradise and put up a parking lot pay paradise and kipokadop man we will be back this friday for the first ever marvel what if recap and listen we fucked up because we got sent screeners of the first three episodes and they expired before we watched any of them so we're gonna be watching them along with you guys because we are you know we did that on purpose because we wanted to be the common man bar still difference baby keep giving us money put us out with all these fucking major leagues and sports networks doesn't matter we're still professional idiots trying to i forgot all about that god damn it we will see you guys on friday