My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 145 - ‘WHAT IF…?’ EPISODE 1 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

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Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by 3C and Barstool Sports, and the first ever What If recap. It's Robbie and Clem. We are not here with KFC. He will join next week week or at least the week after we're gonna get kfc part of these things because he did watch what if and i think he was

as fond of it as we were at least i think clem was um fond of it as well i really enjoyed it i thought it was a great cartoon and what this made me think more than anything clem was man i wish this was around when i was a kid i was like this would be so up my alley if i were a kid it would be so like i'd be and i know i'd be drawing the characters every week drawing my own what-ass predicting stuff so did you enjoy the first episode i loved it i loved it it was everything i was hoping it would be i don't know if that's i guess i wasn't hoping anything i was just hoping to be good and it was really good like you said, like if you're a kid, it's a quality cartoon,

but as an older fan, I know they're going to be able to use cartoons. If they ever need to like fill in the, Hey, what's up, buddy? What do you think of what if his mom is coming down again? And I told you,

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Pretty good job parenting. But now, not only can they use those shows to fill in the blanks they can use cartoons and granted like I think the reason what if works for even diehard Marvel fans aren't going to lose their shit at what if because it's a hypothetical it's nothing that is you know in the main storyline canon if you may any of that kind of stuff but it's just so it was just so well done. And I was just hoping they would just, you know, get a single or a double with it. And I think it was like a standup double at the very worst. And that's the other thing I haven't really seen the reactions to it,

but it was actually kind of amazing on my, uh, on Twitter. What if was the, you know, hashtag what if was trending all morning and not one spoiler made it in my way. And just cause I was busy with the kids and with work and with everything going on in the house, I couldn't sit down and watch it and I didn't see a spoiler. So I was very, very appreciative of that. And our first, what if we'll be able to,

it'll be, what if KFC didn't have a hundred different franchises that he has to do? Cause that's the thing. Like we'll try to get them in. We tried to have them on pod fathers here and there. And the guy it's like so hard to squeeze them out. I got to, we did,

we got to believe it at 9. A.M. This morning, like the only people who are working at nine o'clock at the end yeah it's the dads it's the dads that are able to get up that early you're kind of accustomed to it already but i agree with you when you called it a stand-up double like i the reaction to this some people are anti it some people are very positive i didn't look at this and go this was a home run that blew me away i've never seen anything like it but i was just like man that was super enjoyable like i enjoyed the hell out of that for 30 minutes i thought the animation style was so sick i thought it was so cool actually having

hayley atwell's voice was cool sebastian stan did his character's voice i saw some people hating on that they were like sebastian stan stick to non-voice roles because he sounded awkward in a couple lines there but um the guy that did Steve Rogers voice sounded just like him it wasn't Chris Evans himself but I was grateful for that and uh Howard Stark I don't know if he did his own voice but he sounded just like him too so I I thought it was really good and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season I feel like this is just the start you know this is just the tip of the iceberg and they'll get wacky from here yeah I think it's going to get very weird and we're going to hit you know obviously we're going to space at some point and some probably some really

wacky what ifs where this is very simple where it's like two people that were similar characters that you know knew each other and then obviously end up getting a happy ending at the end um but i think this is also pretty important for marvel in that to have a cartoon be able to hit. And if it resonates with the fan base, not only just for like, again, if I said in terms of bringing the comic books to life and filling in some holes, but I like you imagine print has not been probably doing too well for a while and the diehards are going to be there. And, you know, even kids and young ones, they're going to get it passed down from, you know, past generations or just read about it. I remember I had a family friend who was into the X-Men. That's who got me into comic books in general. Shout out my guy, John Cook. And like that,

there will still be people like us that grew up with the books, but it's going to probably start dying off sooner or later, or even at a quicker pace to have these cartoons, which can still do such cool comic booky stuff maybe push the you know the envelope a little bit i don't know if we'll be doing it on disney plus right but we could have a little suicide squatty cartoon which i guess invincible was kind of like right there's so many different ways you can go so i i was very excited and this is this is also coming as someone as i've said a million times our bad batch recap so we do kenjack for the star wars cartoon i never got into cartoons i never got into clone wars I've said a million times, our Bad Batch recap, so we do a Ken Jack for the Star Wars cartoon. I never got into cartoons. I never got into Clone Wars. I've heard a million times.

It's great. And like, this is, you know, coming from someone who hated the prequels, they're like, trust me, it's not the prequels. It's a great story. And despite that, and the animation getting better and not looking as weird as it did, maybe, you know, season one, I was always very skeptical about cartoons. This series, as well as the Bad Batch, which is good, has proven to me, I can watch cartoons and not feel weird. Because as a dad, you feel especially weird when it's like, kids, go to bed. Daddy needs to watch his cartoons now. And I saw someone tweeted us that we've never seen Captain America move

like Peggy Carter moved as Captain Carter. I got to admit, it might be true. I mean, this show is pretty violent. They showed her like smashing people up with the shield, throwing grenades into windows, guns getting fired. Like they kind of went for it in an MCU way. It didn't feel like a kiddified Disney version of the MCU as much as it did just like a cartoon version of it.

Yeah, exactly. And I appreciated that too, because it's like when you have cartoons, you think of, you know, like the Flintstones and stuff like that. Great in their own right. But comic books, you need to have like actual fights and not just like the Wile E. Coyote falling down

and on like a stick of dynamite or something like that and blowing up. And it felt like real, it felt, you know, when she's throwing the weights and talking about Hitler's, you know, that wish it was for Hitler's head. You could like feel that she's like picking up these weights. It didn't seem like absurd.

And there was a question that I had seen someone tag me in and I, I responded to it. Like someone's like, can my eight year old kid watch? What if a hundred percent? I don't think like, if like Sienna's six years old, I wouldn't have had a problem with her watching any of that stuff. She's watched on the big screen for Marvel, including the horrifying child trafficking stuff that Bob Fox didn't warn me about in Black Widow. You can have your kids watch it with you.

It's not going to be, I don't think, I can't foresee anything being like that, basically on Disney Plus, unless it's pretty clear from the jump that it's going to be a little bit more of a mature cartoon. Yeah, absolutely. This, if you want to watch it with your kids,

go for it. We can get right into it. I told Clem before we started, we're going to go through the episode, not as detailed as see him as commissioner gordon in the new batman movie he's kind of another one if you count this as mcu he's mcu and dc with uh commissioner gordon and the watcher but uh he says he can interfere but you know sometimes things happen in the universe and a branch falls off so in this branch peggy carter Carter decides, as Steve Rogers is going into the super soldier serum transformer, whatever you want to call that thing, she decides she's not going to go back into the booth. She's a little more assertive. She's like, no, I think I'll stay right here. and then a gunfire and all that it winds up being that captain carter has to go inside the super soldier transformer because steve rogers is injured they're like we we got to do this right

now she's like fuck it she takes her jacket off she goes inside the transformer and it boosts her up into a super soldier pretty cool animation howard stark looked exactly like howard stark the other guy kind of just looked like Steve Martin the whole time. I thought he was just Steve Martin. And Cap winds up becoming the Hydra Stomper. We see this a little later, but Howard Stark basically makes Captain America into his own Iron Man. I mean, if that wasn't made for the basement, boys, what is? Yeah.

Yeah. Don't get my guy Tony but I have his pops I have we have Iron Man showing up but as Steve Rogers very cool I love that was always my favorite things about the what if comics is like the other parts that of the universe that was familiar but it had to change as well instead of the big what if we're in this case you know it's Agent Carter instead of uh you know Captain Captain America, Steve Rogers doing it. The watcher. I always think of Dr. The Dr. Dre song. I don't know. 2001. I almost want to hear that as his theme song.

When they did the opening, I was kind of hoping the entire opening, but animated that probably would have cost a shitload of money. Right. And if they keep that for every cartoon, they have the animated version of it. I thought that would be cool. But maybe down the road. I think at the end, I'm not sure if it was just my brain being confused, but I thought they might have made it a little more cartoony looking, the Marvel Studios logo when it was all said and done.

I'm not sure. I mean, that's a free idea for Feige right there. They should animate that. Long-time listener, Kevin Feige. And I love the people who double dip from dc to marvel like oh man i can't imagine what those with that bank account looks like every single like time something plays um other thing too i love how we the thing i liked about this and it didn't really get deep into it obviously but the this one this what if being around world

war ii obviously i'm a big what if sky there's a history what if subreddit that i subscribed to recently and it's pretty cool and they just give like what if hitler didn't invade russia and you know there's there's very small much smaller things that i wouldn't know about but you know just big things and you know everyone gives their kind of two cents on it so i'm like this show was made for my kind of weird brain and kevin kevin has like the low-key nerdiest brain on the planet which i heard there was a honkers match the other day uh against your mom and i'm not gonna see what happened because we don't um we don't spoil the dozen even though

it's already been played on barstool but i'm just gonna say it sounds like your mom the new team came out looking all right so far that's all i'm gonna say so i'm gonna say it was a bit of a championship hangover i told rudy his wife is in me dms it's not over all right we far. That's all I'm going to say. It was a bit of a championship hangover. I told Rudy. His wife is in me DMs. It's not over. We're going to get him. Now, let me say this. The one thing, I got very offended by this. If I heard this correctly, in the What If,

they said Cap made the ultimate sacrifice to save the universe. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Really? Captain America made the ultimate sacrifice. Let me go over to the game. Let? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Really? Really? Captain America made the ultimate sacrifice. Let me go over here.

Let's see. Ultimate sacrifice. What's the biggest thing a living being can sacrifice? Hmm. He went back in time and had sex a bunch of times, I'm sure, and had a nice dance, got old and lived a full life. No, that's not the sacrifice they're talking about they're talking about when he went into the ice and captain america won he thought he was sacrificing his life well they said for the universe and i when i heard universe i'm thinking we're talking

end game we're talking the team man so that's why i said really talking going into the ice okay okay fair enough now this is kind of a weird thing how do you would you feel if your boo-boo just stole your identity like his boo-boo just becomes captain america that's that's a tough look for a guy stevie he handles it well as you would he does yeah he's a very supportive like progressive steve rogers uh in in the 1940s or whatever you know yeah that's that's always the funniest thing about these things is how these guys are like they're not these like like the epitome of what you think get in the kitchen peggy you do kind of get that vibe from some of the people there where she's

like i just want to like be in the room and they don't want her to like set eyes on anything so it is kind of they do tell peggy early on they're like you're you're a woman so you can't do this all right get back in the kitchen like they basically tell peggy carter that she's like are you fucking kidding me like give me a shield give me this goddamn shield exactly now if you look at you know before you guys go to bed tonight you look at wife and say what if she was just a straight up just become like the ufc guy for barstool you know her and conor mcgregor are bffs uncle dana's invited her out to ve Vegas and she showed him the headquarters and everything. So that's, that was, that was a very cool part of this that I thought was, you know, interesting.

And I'm so happy we got Howard Stark since he hasn't yet been murdered by Steve's best friend in cold blood before Steve kept it a secret for many, many years. Well, I was going to say that's the next part. Howard Stark actually gets to become part of the squad and he goes on missions with captain carter's squad with bucky and they go on the train mission and this was such a great sequence where captain carter grabs bucky's arm he goes oh thank you he almost pulled my damn arm off it's like i love that the leo point at this green up gotcha winter soldier reference and at this point steve rogers actually falls off the train and in my mind i thought oh shit is steve rogers going to become the winter soldier reference and at this point steve rogers actually falls off the train and in

my mind i thought oh shit is steve rogers going to become the winter soldier after all this it is a bit of a misdirection i think he does not become the winter soldier he just becomes enslaved by uh red skull they get put in this kind of like orb type thing that was powering the suit he said later on and they take him out of the suit steve rogers he's still injured he's still tiny he looks like me he's got the frame of me steve rogers i could have done the motion cap for him in this episode and this is why you're such a cap guy you're built like cap it is young castee rogers that makes sense now yeah yeah yeah he's he's my guy um red skull is actually able to summon his champion using the Tesseract.

And his champion is this big-ass octopus. It's basically the Hydra logo he takes out of the little portal. It comes through. Captain Carter has to use a sword and slice it up. I saw the What If directors actually compared this to Gamora slicing up the monster in the beginning of Guardians 2. They said it was actually kind of inspired by that, which I thought was kind of cool, them giving credit to that. And Captain Carter realizes that in this universe, she's going to have to make the ultimate sacrifice and miss out on that dance with Steve Rogers.

And she has to push this octopus back through the portal. She is successful in doing so. She comes through in the present day. And it's Nick Fury and Clint Barton waiting there for her. And what looks like the place where Loki comes through in Avengers 1. And they're like, the war ended 70 years ago. Like, you won. She's like, oh, great.

Like, I won. But she's like, my fucking guy, Steve Rogers. That was my boy. So the Watcher comes through in an outro and he says, you know, I am the watcher. I can't interfere, but this is the, the stories of the Marvel universe. What if see you next week, brothers. Hey guys, sorry to cut off the pod,

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I'll just chill and wait and hoping for her to show up. And it kind of has a little happy ending. I loved the holy shit. I have super serum muscles vibe that we were getting from Peggy. She's just like, Oh man. And it's, I, i compared it to like when you're playing against like little kids and like basketball you're just dunking on them like i love like my little kids they'll try to like i'm like the little indoor hoops and they'll try to dunk it and i just swat it across the room and they love getting blocked which is so much fun because i love blocking them exactly that much um i got a

little bit of a wonder woman vibes because she's jumping into battle and just dominating everybody in a war granted it was a different war um and i with the sword too as soon as she grabbed the sword i was like oh the sword and the shield that's like wonder woman yeah yeah this is i all right i'll get bonked for this but it was an honest thought that i had when she was like shows up and she's like her you tell her arms they've like got cut now she has the muscles and you have this little scrawny bitch steve rogers i'm like she is going to murder that guy in the bedroom like he is going to be like the power bomb picture yes yes exactly the infamous uh was that yp with the yp oh my god oh i never thought i'd have that picture back in my brain again.

Thank you, Bob. We can't show that one on YouTube. Unfortunately. No, no, I don't. I, maybe I could do like a blurred version of it or something. I don't know if you're watching with the kids. I'm sorry. Let me say this. This is going to be maybe sacrilege is such a big cap guy and maybe anti-American when she put on her captain Carter suit. I was like, damn, that's who might be cooler than caps I mean maybe it's just a rock and roll Fan in me where I always see the Union Jack

Guitars the Union Jack shoes That kind of stuff when she had that and the Shield it was like that's a fucking sweet Costume and like yeah the shield was much More like acceptable or like I'm like is that the way the shield's Supposed to be and that's fucked up to say again Like we're gonna get fucking dragged for Benedict Arnold right arnold right here arnold clem arnold we're gonna

get killed but it it they did make it like it didn't feel too weird it didn't feel out of the loop steve being iron man too and uh what if it's a hydra hydra stomper was that yeah the hydra stomper yeah it's kind of like the uh the hulk buster i felt like yeah and i love how they like throw their enemy's name in the name of the machine so it's not like just like the enemy stomper the bad guy stomper it's like hydra fuck you we're stomping your ass out so i i really appreciate that and kind of just seeing the cap iron man super team that we could never see we never saw with like you never saw like tony picking up steve and throwing him around and you know doing the way they were using the uh each other during the plane fight where he was like throwing

her through the cockpit of the window and she was using the shield that was badass that's such cool animation that was awesome and it's probably like also like a thing that's a lot easier doing a cartoon than having a bunch of stunt guys try to do it and all that kind of stuff that train too i saw that train i was like this is bad juju don't like this and i thought we were and i thought we were gonna have steve rogers if steve rogers became the winter soldier would that have broke you because i was thinking i'm like rob is watching this somewhere across the uh state right now and i was very worried about your like mental health going i think it would have been cool i was kind of down for it like i was watching with my

girlfriend i was like oh shit i think he's gonna become the fucking winter soldier but i was thinking he's so frail that i was like are they gonna have to make like both of his arms gonna jack and he looked like spongebob when he gets the inflatable arms and he just like blows him up i don't know they would have just like murdered him they would have just killed him like this guy's worthless he's fucking nothing they would they don't even know he jumped on the grenade which is the one thing i will always give steve rogers his whole life or at least jumping on the grade, which is the one thing I will always give Steve Rogers his whole life, or at least jumping on the grade that, by the way, never went off. It's just what it was.

It was the thought that counts, Clem. The thought that counts. I, I don't, I didn't see the, the critiques on Bucky, but he was kind of just cracking wise left and right. It wasn't even just telling jokes. He was cracking wise. What I would say is like a lot of like, and the forties jokes where he's like like it's like a can of sardines

in here like the old school stuff where you're like oh yeah we get it's a time piece yeah he could have never been a captain america because captain america just can't tell though it's like you can't just have the whole room get quiet every time you don't have to be funny you just can't be not funny so that's what i would say about that and uh when the hydra champion came out of the portal i immediately had uh starro vibes i was like what the fuck are we crossing back to suicide squad now like my my brain was so goddamn confused um but the question that we're all gonna ask when it's all said and done is peggy carter the better captain you know super serum captain i don't know i want to say captain america bob people are talking

right now it's i mean it's tough because listen here's what i'm gonna say it might be it might be an anakin and obi-wan situation and i'm saying she's anakin and captain america is obi-wan where steve rogers it's all about the hard work and peggy carter it seems to be pure talent pure skill it's like all coming to her very easily she's a little more comfortable in this role but I don't know if she would be worthy in the end you know she's a little more full of herself she's a little more happy to beating up the enemies I think maybe Steve Rogers is the only one that could get Mjolnir in the end I was gonna say if she can't pick up Mjolnir that is an x factor and yeah it's all fine and good when you're facing hydra here and there but once you know once they once the team

man and he starts raining down aliens on your ass that's a whole different ball game and hey she clearly has she sacrifices she puts it on the line for the team she's like greg jennings with a broken leg she's fucking baron darren sharper wouldn't have a chance to get agent carter but uh i just had i'm just fucking with you bob Bob. I just want to see you squirm a little. So as soon as I saw that tweet come in, I'm like, right. Make Bob squirm. As you ask if agent Carter is better. I'm corner here. I am in a corner, but like, listen, I can score my way out of the corner.

We're going to probably see agent Carter come back in future episodes, right? That's kind of the vibe you got by the ending of this it does feel like there's going to be something in that realm fuck i mean if we had seen this before loki i would have been like is that agent carter right there because remember we we spotted her in the back and it's like is she you know just in her civilian clothes and stuff like that we did get a question from uh ben he said will the what if variants be able to show up in future multiverse projects like does a multiverse exist where we get to see captain america and captain carter maybe in live action i actually do think that's a possibility like if people really like captain carter that much we

know hayley atwell is very friendly with disney still i don't see why that couldn't happen i hope i hope they leave the door open for anything or are at least like pitching potential ideas on that goddamn whiteboard. It's somewhere in the whiteboard. It's not like by far a big headline or right in the middle, but it's kind of like I'm like, it's not even attached to the big whiteboard. It's kind of like its own separate whiteboard. And it's like future ideas. And it's on there. It's on there. It's not like a definite by any means, but it's on there. This show, I feel like can be like a test audience, like take the ones that people love the most and then you could bring them to live action. And then it could be even more of like a, Oh my God, we're seeing the things we loved from what if, and instead of we're seeing the things we love from the comics or the movies, like they could actually spin it and flip it on its head. I'm just tickled pink that this is even a like thing, a man my size should not be able to get tickled

a hue of pink very easily but i am tickled absolutely pink right now that they brought the way to franchise and they actually seem to have done it well i i can't believe this is happening and take chances have fun and i think that's i i should ask waldron uh i guess someone who's a little more creative than I am. I feel like that's when creative guys like that can really just have fun when there's really no breaks on them and kind of just get weird and get funky with it. And that's when shit's going to happen. And I mean, shit, the stuff, Stan Lee and Kirby Lee must've been, or who is it?

Who else? Jack Kirby. The stuff they must've been doing. Troons. We, I don't even want to know what the planet they were on when they came up with half of this stuff but just like I just love the what if series that it just exists and it probably just started one day when they're like what if blah blah blah happened and then it's like write that down this is before whiteboards even existed and then you know probably it was on probably yellow legal pads and now here we are all these years later it's again someone that grew up with that comic book. That was kind of a one-off.

I absolutely love it. I'm so happy. They just nailed it in the first episode. And I'll, I'll go on the internet tomorrow. And I was like, Clem, that fucking sucked.

What are you talking about? I loved it. Tickled pink. Well, Patrick, what's the name? Patrick star. Yeah.

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steve rogers and they all were just a band against or with the government uh that is a great what if that is a 10 out of 10, what if we're going to give you our, no, excuse me. We don't say 10. You don't say five balls. It's five balls.

We talk about balls. We were on the ball here. We know that in the basement, that's five balls idea. Cause I think about it every single day of my life, twice when I'm watching end game. And that scene, when Tony rips his heart out and gives it to cap,

that's what i always think i'm like what would happen that has to be a thing sooner or later that could be like a fucking movie if they want to do it but i i really really that would be my that would probably be my number one what if so i mean are they better prepared for the attack that comes in the the thanos attack are they do they see it coming better or they do they the jump on them? I kind of have a related one there. I'm going to just add on to that. In that fucking thing, what if Thanos never comes

but it somehow unlocks a Kang variant? It's another big bad that comes out of it. It's like, hey, I got good news and bad news. Good news, the T-Man ain't coming. He's just chilling fucking in the garden. He's in that field, yeah. He's porridge. Yeah, but bad news you

got galactus coming to eat your ass so i think we could do some fun shit with that that'd be cool another end game what if what if hawkeye died on four mere instead of natasha we know that hawkeye was such a massive part of that final battle bringing the gauntlet across the field right kind of like playing football with it what if natasha was able to survive i mean in that case would she be able to get the gauntlet to the truck saving iron man so you know he wouldn't have to do the sacrifice in that case would the final battle go differently if she was the one that came back cap dies but iron man survives in this thing maybe maybe cap has to sacrifice himself yeah this is where i get all fucked up and all this because then it's like well is this outside of

the doctor strange one did he see all the possibilities or was that just you know he kind of got like they kind of um like hit cancel hit the cancel button once he got to like four million and 65 because they were just like hey i feel like he probably could have done a billion more right you figure there's all these different possibilities for a five-year gap um but i kind of like the idea of them doing it and just natasha just fucks everything up just because them and black widow are battling in court right now i think it'd be hilarious if they just sewer the black widow character and just completely murder her they're like no she would have fucked it up we're actually going to get a black widow what if i believe like she's going to be like the no, she would have fucked it up. We're actually going to get a black widow. What if I believe like,

she's going to be like the only Avenger to have survived like a post apocalyptic war or something. And I saw that the character art for her, she looks bad-ass. She's got like armor on and stuff. It's cool. Was that, is that the zombie one? I don't know if it is. I know it's like one of the later episodes.

They said it's one of the last episodes of the season. I would love it if they just straight up made this one that you're talking about and then she ends up getting the gauntlet snaps away the entire universe and then it's just like what a bitch man what a bitch she is i hate black so greedy mickey mouse comes out of nowhere like he comes out of a portal like i agree she was greedy give me 30 million dollars or i'm snapping you all away i got another by the way that yeah that's a very ugly but i will say the the notable thing i read this it's between her and disney and marvel is very much on her side so at least like marvel and her are still

tight they're like kind of like yeah disney kind of owes her the money that she deserves we're on your side too scar joe yeah if you could have had a better move that was under the people who wrote that i will say that as well if it was a better movie i think you would have been all right but yeah there is a pandemic but at the same point fuck this yeah um another end game related what if for you what if that rat never stepped on the button and brought Scott Lang out of that truck, out of the quantum realm? We know the answer, Bob, half the universe is gone. It ain't coming back. That's simple. That rat was an MVP candidate. I think he was fifth on my MVP ballot. I made after end game. I did a,

a draft most underrated character with those guys at the direct. And he was my third most under, he's my third round pick. Groot was one because Groot is the big Bob shot or of the franchise. He saves the guardians with the re-art Groot. He chops his arm off in end game. And then I think, Oh, I had a, what was it? Killmonger was my other one. I think he's just an underrated villain. He's a great villain. And at one point he was probably the best Marvel villain,

but I feel like people forget about him because thanos is around who do you think is the best villain aj i'll put you on the swing in a minute okay the rat the rat was my was my third because he saves the he saves the entire world he saves half the universe with one blind step of a button so i bob you keep throwing me infinity war and end game what ifs you're gonna have my attention every that could be its own like mini series or season like the book of boba fett the book of infinity war and it's just all the what ifs from all that stuff and speaking of the direct matt from the direct actually sent in a what if for us this week and he said what if steve took sam's advice and took

up ultimate fighting the perfect what if for me and this show that's a what if that i want to see matt you're you you know me and you know that's right up my alley that's a that's a zero day since come has come out of this tell you what though he could he would have to fight in like japan where they don't drug test because i know super soldier serum would show up on USADA test. Oh man. I actually had a thought about that. What would you do if you got super serum? Like, would you just like, like, just think of that first like day where you're just in the shit. Like I always think of the Spider-Man when he wakes up that one morning and he's jacked and he has the heightened senses and everything. And I'm like, man, that would just be so awesome. All right. And now here's a real life

what if for you clem for right straight from my brain this morning i woke up with it and to be honest it kind of scared me i scared myself with this what if but i'm just gonna say it what if kevin feige was in charge of dc and we got zach snyder's Avengers. Whoa, that's a mind blow. I haven't had those in a while. No more. The lack of Loki has caused my brain not to get like put into knots. Wow.

I'll tell you what. We'd have one all time classic Superman movie. We already have a new one, a new one. i mean batman he would do yeah i i have two kids right now i don't know where their mother is you better be doing better have a good excuse yes hi to robbie um marvel is basically what they were before like when they were just selling things off to sony left and right you know what i mean just complete garbage bottom of the barrel now who do you think kevin feige kicks the universe off with though because that's important he kicked the universe off with

iron man who was not an a1 you know household name so does he do like the flash that was my first thought was the flash where it's a guy you know but not you know not tier one guy. Right. So, uh, him or maybe green lantern. Cause I always thought like, so comparing like WWF to WCW, like we do from time to time here, like I feel like the big Superman, Batman, that was your flair. Right. And those are the big names and sting. Whereas like, but like, there's like, sometimes there was like the essence of WCW. And it was like the next guys on the card, the guys that are fighting for the united states championship and shit like that chris jericho's right yes exactly once jericho came over i was like it's over it's a wrap because

if they can't keep that guy they're not keeping anyone that has like a star that is bright enough to fill the fucking uh void there at wcw so i i think so if you say the flash i'll say green lantern and i do i like is it honestly that simple where you do a like a snap and it flips probably not because who knows the people at warner brothers versus the people at disney that kind of just let him do his thing because i feel like it comes from the top down the same with us the reason barstool succeeds is because dave portnoy is crazier than any motherfucker in this company. So you can basically get away with whatever as long as you're not stupid. You can basically do whatever because Dave's like Dave does whatever the fuck he wants. Right.

So I think it kind of carries over to that. I'm also going to make this very clear. I am not talking shit about the Snyder cut or whatever the fuck you want to call it, because I know Snyder fans are fucking crazy. So this is not a fucking shot thrown at their boys direction. I'm just saying Kevin Feige needs to be in charge. It's kind of like when the WDF had the rise with Vince Russo as the head writer, right. Or just Vince Vince McMahon, just as the head honcho there without those guys,

it just ain't the same. And I think Kevin Feige is that important to the Marvel success. What do you think? I would agree. I would say seeing what Zack Snyder would do you think i would agree i would say seeing what zach snyder would do with the avengers would just be fascinating in like but like i don't want to take away what we have like i just want to see what he would do with them and how dark and bad he would make it

listen we can move on from that listen that's all i'll say about the snyder cup but i would be very very very interested in seeing what he would do with the avengers i'm gonna make you know how it's like kind of all the like you change one little part of this universe the butterfly it's like everything else changes ready dc is the marvel marvel is the dc but in some weird like there's like because dc doesn't really have maybe the Amount of like well known superheroes There is like a little bit of A void that needs to be filled And Spawn becomes a

Fucking blockbuster Like something you can't even imagine It's basically like DC's Live action Invincible If they never did a cartoon and did that Or something I will throw that in as kind of the weird thing that no one could have saw coming from all this.

Now we've also got some Barstool what-ifs sent in by the listeners. These are fun ones too. Cutting off the pod one more time to tell you about the Showtime pay-per-view and most valuable promotions event, Jake Paul versus Tyron Woodley. It's a five fight pay-per-view.

It's going down in Jake Paul's hometown of Cleveland, Ohio on August 29th. It's a Sunday and Dave and Big Cat are actually going to be on the broadcast. So, I mean, it's worth tuning in just to see that the ridiculousness of it all is going to be amazing. Barstool Sportsbook has a sponsorship. So it's going to say Barstool Sportsbook on the canvas and everything, I believe. And the action-packed pay-per-view telecast will be produced and distributed by Showtime beginning at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific. Main event obviously features the problem child, Jake Paul versus Tyron, the chosen one, Woodley.

I'm rooting for Tyron Woodley in that fight as the UFC guy. I kind of feel like he's representing the MMA fighters. It's been a few years since he got a win and even a single round of competition. but I do think he is Jake's hardest test yet. So I'm rooting for him. I'm hoping he gets the job done. And you never know when Dave and big cat are involved, you start getting that weird barstool magic. Anything can happen. I think tickets are on sale now and can be purchased at rocket mortgage field house.com. And you can also order the pay-per-view at showtime.com slash pay-per-view and watch the event live on any supported device. Obviously it'll be on all major cable,

satellite, and telco pay-per-view providers for $59.99 on the night of the fight. But if you want to reserve your spot now, go to showtime.com slash pay-per-view and watch the event there. So the first one is, I don't know if his name is renes rene's ren i'm gonna go with renes he said what if sophia stayed with call her daddy instead of alex imagine that that'd be i see i don't listen to the podcast so i don't know if anything would change there but it'd just be wild it'd be the one with uh brunette hair instead of a lot more anal talk a lot less blowjob that was sophia was more no i have no idea which one talked about which or whatever i mean honestly it's largely said he's like i have a daughter i just don't want to hear

that come out of their mouth because then i have to think about you know just it's like oh um 20 million dollars i'm gonna say probably not on the table because alex was is was forever will be a fucking workhorse i mean when portnoy talks about your worth ethic and at work not only work ethic but how good you are at your job You know you are fucking through the roof Because I think we're both pretty good at our jobs And we're not getting fucking emails left and right Hey attaboys they're not getting attaboys from everybody here

So the fact that you You know on his show on tweets Sometimes just I think he just says it And so yeah I'll say Suit man I don't know what happens to suit man In this scenario I guess Suitman in this scenario. I guess Suitman in this scenario might be with Alex. Oh, wow.

That would be Bob spill the tea. Suitman, I think getting off Dave's radar when he did was probably a good thing because Dave has only grown in power since Suitman was on his radar. What a fucking wild. You honestly just can't make up the way that this is. It's a soap opera company. It's a fucking it's a wrestling uh storyline every single day here that was unbelievable that's a good one if this one involving white socks dave the next one actually involves white socks dave as well this

one says what if white socks dave would have commentated that yankees game and not ellie schnitt what if white socks dave never got sent home that was kind of i think a big turning point for dave's um Barstool career. Like things went up for Dave after that only went up for Dave after that. Like the worst that could happen. Like the more something bad seems to happen to your Barstool at like face value. Good. It ends up being good. It turns around. Yeah. It's always, it will always come back around.

It always comes back around. All right. In a weird way. Wow. I'm like, I'm doing some crazy what if shit to try to make it crazy. And I'm like, somehow, some way we never get the dog walk drafts out of it, which would be. And at that point, the drafts might have been. I don't think they were around by that point. And then I'm thinking somehow Corona never happens because Cause I think Corona kind of spurred off the,

the, the draft going back to eat dinner with the guy who started Corona. Exactly. So if, yeah, exactly. Dave's like second round pick. So we're going to say that if,

if white socks, Dave doesn't come to New York and doesn't get sent home, Corona virus never happens. So that's put that on a fucking headline. This next what if I saved for the grand finale, Clem, because I couldn't think of a better one than this. It was from our friend Unfiltered Nerd, who replies to us all the time.

Shout out, Unfiltered Nerd. And he says, what if White Sox Dave were actually Red Sox Dave? And now I'm taking this what if and thinking it flips him and Jared completely. Jared is over in Chicago and Red Sox Dave has World Series rings, a podcast with David Ortiz, where he chews gum the whole time because he's still White Sox Dave in the end. But imagine that. I'll tell you what it is. In this scenario, there's a lot of people with concussions in Boston because that boy, an angry, crazy Red Sox Dave. I mean, just saying that is laugh out loud funny.

Red Sox Dave. I mean, he always has the chip on his shoulder, and then if you added the chip on your shoulder that comes from being a Red Sox fan, from being in spotlight against the Yankees all those years, and then winning the titles, I mean, the Hulk. We're dealing with the Hulk we have a Hulk now we have a Hulk and maybe Jared could throw faster than him in this case though that's nice yes yes exactly exactly White Sox Dave like does he get the does he get the rocket haircut because I kind of want to see like and they swap beards too so Jared has the beard beard that goes up high and Dave has the beard that's like

really full. And then in this scenario, Jared is now part of Barstool Chicago. So you have Eddie, Chief, Carl, and Jared with, again, and a great set of like, like we know Tom, awesome guy, right? He's producing stuff and he's camera uh danny who i love their intern they have some great guys out there you throw jared into that mix how do you think because dave as a white socks fan when he's going against the cubs fans and whatever he's he's very like white socks dave in it but at the end of the day they always be like oh it's white socks

dave and whatever jared i feel like doesn't back down the only time i I've ever seen Jared like down bad and like admit to it was when Giancarlo Stan got traded to the Yankees, which is hilarious considering how wrong he was about all that. Right. So sorry, Yankee fan Bob, I apologize. Yeah. So what happens to the Chicago guys? Is it like a lot more, I feel like we might get a lot more like maybe down to blows at some point. I feel like Carl and Jared, those are the two.. I feel like Carl and Jared. Carl and Jared. Those are the two.

Yeah. Rough and rowdy. Carl and Jared. And like White Sox Dave is not bashful about challenging people to rough and rowdy. But this is actually White Sox Jared we're talking about. So he's the same. White Sox Jared. White Sox Jared.

Great, great one unfiltered there. That was a great one. that was such a good one the repercussions of this i mean it hits far and a grand sons of a rebate we are allies i'm allies with the white section i'm also allies with the red sox fans because the yankee fans are are a thorn in both our sides but i mean if i if i had jared as kind of my like my white socks connection that would be interesting too. So, wow. So is, and then this, okay. Is White's, is Red Sox Dave, is he hosting a show with Dallas Braden? No, he can't.

Oh no. The world is. So who else has thrown a perfect game that we could have hired to, to be like, he's doing it with. Who's the guy from the, the white socks, Mike, Mark Burley. That's exactly what I thought of. Yeah.

That's, that's canon. The fact we both early at the same exact time. So in this scenario, red socks and, you know, red socks, Dave holds it over white socks,

Jared's head. Like, Oh, I'll go ask Mark Burley how, you know, the, the world series was back when we won it in 2005 or whatever. Yeah.

What a what if. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, man. Great what ifs. Make sure you send them in for next week as well. Marvel what ifs, real life what ifs, Barstool what ifs, my mom's basement what ifs. Send them into the podcast. We'll read them off on the end.

Yeah. Write them in the comments. Like the video. Subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. And you haven't checked it out watch our interview with michael waltron we got him back on the podcast this time we're talking wrestling with him it's a great time and talk wrestling and it was like a good you know how did you grow up with wrestling who are your favorite guys a lot of old school talk and it like as an older um wrestling fan like it was just great to kind of like the glory days you

know what i mean we got into the attitude arrow and all that kind of stuff so um watching scrambled pay-per-views like he's a real fan we were talking scramble porn and scramble pay-per-views so we're going right to the barstool degenerate section of uh the human brain so yeah definitely check out even if you're not watching today it's like uh if you've ever been a wrestling fan you'll definitely enjoy this one with waldron and again we i wouldn't say we sucked his dick we gave and we didn't even like i don't even jerk them off i feel like we like gave it a tug rub them a little we gave him a talk we gave him a few times we'll just give him a few tugs let's let's let's be honest other people may disagree a little more than that yeah um make sure you like the video

subscribe to the channel leave your what-ifs in the comments and we will be back next week. Hopefully with Kevin Clancy. That's right. We're only going to read people that have subscribed and give a thumbs up. We could see who's does what, where then if you leave the comment, we're going to make sure you check all three boxes, do that. And hopefully we'll be back with Kevin next week. I, Kevin, Kevin will be the most fun for these Barstool what ifs because yeah he has the

brain for it and he's been around so long that he like and he probably knows a lot of like you know backstage shit that even we were aren't privy to that you know wouldn't be like earth shattering stuff but just funny stuff that um especially the old school shit that i think could could really bring an element to this than once he's coming so and he sounds like wait so you're saying kevin clancy liked what If? He did, yeah. He, as soon as I logged on to the dozen matchup before we even started, he was like, Bob, I just finished What If? It was awesome.

I loved it. Again, I mean, that's as good a glowing review as you can get. The biggest hater in the world says it's good. So I cannot wait to do this. This is going to be fun. How many weeks do we have? I think we've got nine episodes,

maybe a bonus episode at the end. Perfect. And the perfect, don a bonus episode at the end. Perfect. And the perfect, don't you tease me. Half hour length. Perfect. It was all, it was all great.

So this is gonna be a lot of fun.