My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 146 - ‘WHAT IF…?’ EPISODE 2 RECAP WITH CLEM AND KFC
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3G and Barstool Sports.
I am your host, Robbie Fox.
We are here for the second What If Breakdown.
And as promised, Kevin Clancy has joined this show.
Kevin, thank you for being here
you got it let's go love what if we talked about your reaction to what if last week because clem
said what did kfc think about i said he texted me he said it was awesome and it was like pretty
much everything he wanted out of it so what did you think of this episode which i feel like me
and clem talked about it a little bit via text, just expanded upon the last and like made it even better.
It's so good that they like, they take big, it's big. What ifs, you know,
it's not like, what if like this little thing changes?
Like we're swapping entire fucking characters, man. Like that is, you know,
they're taking big chances doing major things and somehow still make it all
tie together. Like seamless, seamless you know i don't know
how long these take to make because i feel like they're just like little mini movies but you got
to like carefully map out every little thing when you're swapping two major characters and they do
it i don't know these writers are so fucking good man i don't know how many they have i don't know
how many are operating on this one but like it's it's unbelievable. So, I mean, this is, I love what ifs. It's my entire life. Literally my entire
career is doing hypotheticals and what ifs and replacing this person with that person. And
what if this was a loss and this was a win, all this stuff. So this is like my dreams,
my dream series. It makes me very happy that it's lived up to your expectation. Cause we
talked about in the Loki recap, recap, you were were like what if is my fucking thing that was my thing back in the day
it's going to be my thing when it comes out clem what did you think of episode two i mean
episode one was right up bob fox's alley we have little steve rogers there and his brutish woman
who just dominated him in bed by crushed like his fucking ribs. And now this one was right up my alley.
You guys know, not only is it, I'm a guardian.
We're a guardian's family.
I should say it's because Sienna got into guardians and it's just become our family.
The imperfect cast of fucking misfits that somehow patrolled the little galaxy together.
That's me and the Clems.
And then the T-man shows up and I'm like, I'm zero days since this dick has had come out of it.
When I saw, I mean, when I saw Thanos, I was, I climb immediately.
It's crazy. I see clan. I see Thanos. I think Clem, I see Clem.
I think Thanos it's like crazy,
but that version of Thanos again is such a leap.
Like it's so different. And like, it's so good. Like it's leap. It's so different.
It was so good.
It's efficient.
He's like, listen, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.
T'Challa showed me the way my ways were wrong.
It's so funny.
That what if was Thanos on 3G.
What if we just get rid of half the universe?
Someone was like, brother, just take this gummy and why don't you chill out?
And then he's sitting there like looking up like, you know, it still would be really efficient, but I get it.
All right.
It's genocide.
You're throwing the G word around casually, real casually.
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And the fact that we actually have Josh Brolin, Chadwick Boseman, which of course,
this was kind of tragically one of his last performances.
He's going to be in, I think, a few more episodes, though.
So we get a little bit more Chadwick as Star-Lord.
We get Michael Roker.
I think it adds so much to the show and makes it feel a lot more real in terms of the MCU.
You're like, oh, these are like the real actors here.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if that was the case until once I heard his voice.
Chadwick's is so, so specific you know and then and then
at the very end uh there's a little like cameo and and i and i think that they're all the real
voices right yeah i think i think almost all of them it's crazy because like you think that
animated is like if it feels in general jv is were going to say? Yeah, it feels like a little bit lesser than, you know,
where like I could see if they just had fill-ins or whatever.
But Marvel and Disney does not fuck around.
They're like, you know, we're making a billion dollars off this shit.
We're going to get everybody in the room to do some voiceovers.
You know, if we're going to do it, we're doing it right.
And it does.
It totally makes it feel like it doesn't bother me at all.
I don't feel like I'm watching animated all i don't feel like i'm watching
animated i don't feel like i'm watching a jv version it's just the real thing to me yeah and
they really got wacky with this one so i feel like that's where like this series is going to leap off
from i feel like the next eight nine episodes however many we have are just going to get insane
and i'm very here for it so let's get into it we begin on morag it's like the
beginning of guardians of the galaxy with star lord going to get the orb but when star lord's
mask comes down he's of course revealed to be t'challa the black panther as we know him and
korath is after him the same guy from guardians one but he's actually like a fan of star lord in
this universe and he says it was like a john w moment. I think it's in John Wick 3 or something
where they're like, oh my God,
it would be an honor to fight you, John.
Like we're such big fans.
They have that moment.
He gets dominated very quickly.
Star-Lord throws him on his shoulder.
He kind of feels bad for him.
He's like, all right, let's bring him out.
And he gives this great line where he's like,
a Ravager never flies solo and nothing happens.
And then of course, Yondu is late to the party,
but Yondu shows up michael roger
i love that character i love the whistling arrow that goes through everybody so getting to see him
one of the most badass things the whistling arrow is so fucking cool and the way they use it in the
movies too they make it like intimidating some of the scenes they have where people are just like
unassuming and it just flies through their jugular or something. The Marvel snipers.
Yeah.
Yes.
I, my favorite part about that opening scene.
Again,
I'm convinced Kevin Feige is officially a baseball boy.
He's a listener to the pod.
Cause the fact that he throws cap and the guardians one,
two.
So Kev,
you want to put in your question now for the next episode,
he might be able to shuffle things.
Well,
you know what is funny when I,
my like,
what if memories from back in the day are a lot of X-Men what ifs.
So I don't know if we're ready for that yet.
It could be a cool way to like introduce X-Men to the Marvel world, but I don't know if we're going to get many of those.
So I'll have to hold off on my request probably until season two or three or something once X-Men are in the mix.
What if the MCU got their ass off their elbows and actually fucking introduced the X-Men?
How about that?
That's a good,
yeah.
What if they never lost the rights?
Yeah,
there we go.
Wow.
That's,
I think that's an actual,
what if we could go win chip right there at the end?
When I,
if you were to ask me,
what's my,
what if,
what if star Lord didn't fuck up the fight against Thanos?
Yeah.
Cause that's the one thing in my mind.
That's like a specific event that would have just changed the trajectory.
Hold the glove off right then and there.
Yes.
Yeah.
So that,
if you,
if you're asking me my number one,
what if,
because these,
what ifs are grand made up out of like,
you know,
thin air,
that's a specific,
what if that I think,
you know,
that would change everything really.
I mean,
I guess not,
he could end up in the same spot because it all
gets undone but if it never happened at all
I guarantee you T'Challa
Star-Lord does not fuck that up no matter
who is murdered he does not fuck that up
and I love that that entire opening
was a complete inverse of the
original Star-Lord it's like they don't
know who like my name is Star-Lord like
who but it's like oh my god it's Star-Lord
the great one he basically is it's an honor to get his ass kicked by star by t'challa star lord whatever
the fuck you want to call it it was very james gunsey i wouldn't be surprised if the gunman had
something to do with this thing and that dude what's the guy's name with the blue eyes that
he fights korath i mean that dude just has a sexy look well he's like he kind of looks like the what
was the sexy inmate remember that guy who like went viral?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
With the mugshot.
He does look like him.
Yes.
Oh, shit.
What a pull.
That guy hasn't been brought up in years, I feel like.
That's an internet OG pull.
He lived on Barstool's front page for like a good like four years.
He like divorced his girl, became like a celebrity.
I think he has like a million followers on Instagram and he's a model.
Yeah. Crazy. For the sexy inmate there you go maybe he could be in the new marvel property is like koreth's brother or something we see in a flashback that yondu accidentally kidnapped
t'challa that's how he became star lord they were looking for this big you know energy coming from
the earth because star lord is the son of ego and they accidentally sensed it under wakanda so they
pick him up right outside the border and they're like hey you want to see the world kid let's show
you the universe and they take him on this journey they tell them by the way very fucked up and
fucked up that they tell him his home world had been destroyed they're like yeah wakanda's no more
we can't go back there which he's gonna find. And that's, you can't tell a kid that.
No, I mean, it's like, put him back.
He needed someone in the ship.
He needed you in the back as the Ravager going, put him back.
Let's keep looking at the fuck.
I like the reasoning of it at all. It's like,
it's because he let his subordinates go and do it. Cause it's like,
if you want it, like, even if you just want to get your own coffee sometimes if your coffee comes
back wrong it's like well i shouldn't have sent you know the guy to go do it that's on yondu right
there that starts with leadership and everything else like you said bob i'm so happy that actor is
back what's his name because his voice he's like one of the guys yeah if i could bring back any
mcu guy i wouldn't want to bring back like the like thanos would be a little too extreme but
like i'd love to bring him back but it would it would kind of cheapen the death moment which is
maybe my favorite death in the entire mcu in terms of like emotional pull but that guy fucking rules
also a great appearance in suicide squad so good in suicide squad in the intro and i will say
he's like james gunn's good luck charm in a way and he's in every single one of james gunn's
movies like every single one so i think somehow maybe they could bring him back for guardians 3 in a flashback
or something james gunn is sad like listen i want that death to mean something so he's dead dead
but you could do a flashback to peter's childhood with him or something like that right yeah i mean
i mean variants there's variants in the world now. You can let Michael Roker do an animated voice, I guess.
The Ravagers go to this club to celebrate.
That's where they meet up with Thanos.
He's like, listen, yeah, T'Challa, he's a good guy.
I saw the errors in my ways, genocide.
And I love the reaction when he's like, but it would have been efficient.
Everyone's like, oh, here we go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They do such a good job of painting that where it's like, I we go again a thousand times bro they do such
a good job of painting that where it's like i was like dave talking about deflating like
the resources and the half of humanity jesus christ that's a what if what if uh the the
football's like never we're never deflated never no deflating it ever happened or what it changes
a lot what if the the tuck rule never comes into play?
The dynasty's never launched.
What if Barstool, Boston doesn't win titles in the middle of Boston's reign?
Barstool's come up.
It's all tied to that shit.
These are endless.
Who would be the Barstool version of the Watcher, who intros the episode,
and he's like, I've seen it all.
Would it be like Millmore in the shadows, like, I've been here for it all no you know who would be who would be
mr portnoy oh yeah that boy's just like i've been here
watched it all we if we ever make this animated series if we ever make an animated what if
barstool series he asked that we have to get him in to do the thing.
I could let Snip say Uba for a day straight, right?
And just like imagine him reading the copy and being like, alternate dimension?
Does this say alternate?
It's a different reality?
It would be, we would have that opening opening but it would start out with him going
re read now is it recorded okay okay go you always do this you never tell me when you hit
the button you never tell me i don't care there's a bread like we're making a
i love that guy he's the best um drax is actually a bartender at this club and they have a funny
scene very drax scene where they take a picture together.
He's like, no, no, let's take another one. You look horrible. And he's like, I think it's fine.
He's like, no, no, I insist. You look truly horrendous in this photograph.
And I was surprised they didn't get Dave Bautista to do the voice.
He said he wasn't even asked to do the voice. And it's like, why not, dude?
I was wondering that because I was like, I don't know his voice all that well, but that doesn't sound like him.
So, yeah, why not give him a call?
It was like a two-second roll.
I can't imagine.
Maybe because the whole James Gunn Guardians thing, he did the petition.
Maybe they're mad at him.
Yeah, I thought there was some sort of something with Batista at some point, no?
Yeah, I feel like the timing could link up where it could have been when he was like basically saying like, fuck Marvel.
I'm out of future Guardians. It might have been as they were getting all this shit together so it might have
overlapped there in the timeline and again the animators didn't want to like call their bosses
and be like can we get that guy that's saying fuck marvel uh yeah i mean like think about asking
dave if you could have one of our ex-employees come in and do a project with you it's like do
you really want to open that can of worms right now? No, thank you. We'll just have some other
guy who kind of sounds like him.
This was the first moment where
when he's talking about his family and they're alive and
everything and Drax is happy. And I'm like,
damn, Star-Lord not
getting abducted really just ruined a lot
of people's lives. You know what I mean?
Nebula comes out rocking hair. She's all
happy and everything. Nebula's a smoke.
Nebula's hot as fuck.
Not afraid to say it's smoke show.
And she's riding that cha-cha dick.
Yeah, the cha-cha nickname.
Cha-cha's a great nickname.
Yeah, she had like fucking Brittany in her prime energy in this episode.
Shout out Brittany, by the way.
Free Brittany.
Free Brittany.
Always, always, always.
She has a job for the Ravagers.
She says she wants them to retrieve the Embers of Genesis,
which is this seed energy thing that will grow all greens all over a planet.
So it's resources for them to eat.
And Star-Lord in this universe, T'Challa, is all about that.
That's just like reverse Thanos.
Rather than get half the people, let's get some more resources. Give them more resources. Exactly. I didn't even think about that. That's just like reverse Thanos. Rather than get half the people, let's get some more resources.
Give them more resources.
Exactly.
I didn't even think about that.
That's got to be on purpose.
That was my thought.
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has it. The black order is doing
security for him thanos's black order and they sneak in posing as sellers so there's like a
whole distraction thing and a little trojan horse setup and t'challa on the way runs into howard
the duck voiced by seth green another one where um where i was watching with my girlfriend and
she hasn't seen like all this stuff
and i said oh this is the collector whatever he actually one of the movies he has howard the duck
and like as i'm saying it howard the duck shows i'm like oh fucking howard the duck there he is
i hear the voice i'm like that voice sounds familiar i looked it up i'm like oh my god
seth green's at this fucking show now this is awesome they start walking through the entire
collection and because of his necklace uh wakandan ship is
activated and he realizes due to a video from his father tachaka that wakanda is real it's not been
destroyed it still exists and they're still looking for him a very sad moment when you think
he spent he's been spending his whole life with these fucking this gang this little yondu gang
the uh by the way shout shout out to Howard the Duck
just slugging martinis, saying, I got a hydrate.
Hang on, I got a hydrate.
That was awesome.
Did you see Howard the Duck, Kev?
Did you watch that as a kid?
Because I didn't see it in the theater.
I saw it at home, and I remember being terrified of it.
Absolutely.
But it was like an all-time flop for George Lucas
and I guess Spielberg had a hand in it.
And Marvel, obviously, too, back in the day.
But I saw it. I feel like Brian has probably seen it a bunch i don't know if yeah that was it was either a little before my time or like we we just weren't much of a howard the duck house so
but a great way brendan clancy will be back on my moss basement soon he wasn't able to do today
but he's in for what if recap so everyone look forward forward to Brennan Clancy. And I'm sure the what ifs that come out of that brain are going to be wild.
Nebula turns on everyone at this moment.
She has a Lando Calrissian moment.
She's like,
Nope,
sorry.
And T'Challa at the same time is furious,
but he gets locked up by,
by the collector.
He gets put in one of these boxes.
He gets to escape due to his necklace.
He is the Wakandan like claw necklace on still breaks free.
And our guy who me and Clem have been asking for more of forever.
Ebony Maw gets a pretty cool appearance where he gets to lock T'Challa up,
like with the glass that he just shattered himself out of,
which is cool.
And he gets rescued by the collector's slave.
She comes in at the end,
gets Ebony Maw ma she frees him and
nebula double double turns right at the moment right at the moment where we're like oh she
double crossed us she triple crosses and she's like yeah this has been the plan all along they
do a little oceans 11 like go back she's like yep i told t'challa at the table this is exactly what
we were going to do and at this point star lord t'challa has to fight
the collector this is something that i didn't think i would ever see benicio del toro is the
collector i didn't view as this big hulking villain who i was going to be afraid of out of nowhere
yeah and then he's just got like all of the weapons in the mcu he had captain america shield
in his collection he used korg's arm my fucking guy korg he's like i sliced it off
the the arm of like a malvi whatever his species is i said fucking cord my guy fucking he lost the
war here not only to uh rock paper scissors but he lost the war to uh the collector he uses the
dark elves knife and most importantly he uses hella's headdress from thor ragnarok he throws
that son of a bitch on,
and he is just like an overpowered beast against our guy T'Challa.
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Would you, like, I think I'm at ease with all the good stuff that happens.
I love my guy, Korg.
I feel like that's an all right trade-off to make.
Korg has to die in exchange for everything else that is good.
The T-man being a good person.
No, I'm not making a trade.
I was going to say Bob Bob's not.
I was going to be doing that trade.
Korg, made of rocks. I mean mean he's the best come on the collector turning into some like you know force that like could could take on everybody
was a weird twist uh crazy that was that was that was one i mean you know when you're gonna
get a little wacky with what ifs that was one thing where i was kind of like all right i don't know about that but they
did a good job in the moment of making him seem so imposing and intimidating and i guess if he
really is collecting all of the uh you know weapons in the galaxy or whatever maybe he could pose a
threat if thanos is not there now thanos gets into a fight with the big guy while this is all going on
i thought in my mind like oh shit what if thanos finds like the infinity gauntlet maybe without the stones in it
in his collection gets to put it on and use it against the guy or something but he didn't it
was just a fight against the big guys pretty good he kind of got his ass kicked for a while
and then nebula had to come back and save him his own daughter saving him kind of nice
yondu comes back for star lord at the same time parallels going on at
the same time and then thanos nebula throw these embers into the big guy's mouth and then the
friggin planet basically explodes with greens and gardens and resources everywhere everyone escapes
they put the collector in a cage very symbolic ending and his entire collection is freed they
all surround him the ravagers are like where do we go now and t'challa's like come on where the fuck do you think we're going to wakanda
they go to wakanda for this big feast we get to see more of uh thanos just like having a good
time with people thanos arriving to wakanda in peace this time crazy he's still telling uh i
think it was the dora malaje he's like no no it's not genocide it's efficient and it's random so
it's you know it's really not
genocide so funny and uh there's a very heartwarming moment when t'chaka is like and
how did you get on his ship again and t'challa is like yondu saved me i was lost and he rescued me
so you get a nice bow to tie this one up at the end it's dedicated of course to chadwick bozeman
i'm excited to see a little more of him because his voice acting was perfect. He knew exactly what to
do for this character. Of course
he did because it's the character that he made so iconic.
But some people, they said,
aren't as good as voice acting as
acting. I didn't even tell a difference. No, that
voice is so good at that. That
was seamless to me. Two things I
loved. Thanos'
mad moment was awesome.
Not crazy. He's mad. He looks mad crazy he's mad looks like mad like man king
deliver the line i love the way in wakanda the camera just panned through the whole party and
you got little bits of every conversation same where he was like if you had to put a label on
us we're just friends and i was saying it's it's uh it's random and all that so it was like all
these little that was very very like Disney-esque.
Like I can imagine the end of a Disney movie.
That's like the way that Pixar, you know, or would wrap things up is very good.
Wrap it up and everybody's happy.
Everyone's having their little quirky, you know, moments.
So, but Yondu being like, I saved you.
You're a traveler.
Like, no, bro.
Like, no.
I wish I stayed in like the technological paradise. Fuck you, bro. Like, no. I wish I stayed in, like, the technological paradise.
Fuck you, traveler.
Especially in this world where his father survives and Wakanda's still just thriving.
Yeah.
That's called a parental spin zone, Kevin.
We've all been there before.
We've all been there before trying to make the kid feel better.
Somebody said this on Reddit, and it really stuck with me.
Like, when you see Thanos at the bar or even during the party, it's like when you defeat the boss character in a video game he becomes a playable
character like that's exactly what it feels like it's like oh he's one of our guys now you see him
beating the shit out of people but he's not like it's weird to see thanos like vulnerable at all
because he doesn't have the gauntlet on and he's not like this like fucking villain he kind of like
he said he's getting his ass kicked for a little while it was kind of cool to see that and it's
crazy how thanos without like that gauntlet has become like part of his outfit and he kind of like you said he's getting his ass kicked for a little while it was kind of cool to see that and it's crazy how thanos without like that gauntlet has become like part of his outfit
and he's not wearing it he seems almost naked to me you know i agree it's like one of those
sometimes you see a wrestler not wearing like knee pads and elbow pads and i'm like
you're fucking knee pads on bro you look naked no he was still like just taking bullets from
like laser guns and shit yeah he was at the end he's still pretty invincible when he wants his
skin is probably pretty frigging thick.
It's like all that for a drop of blood still.
Whenever I saw Patrick Ewing on a basketball court without knee pads,
complete mind blow.
Completely mind blow.
You just see it.
He usually have at least like the black under pads on,
but if that wasn't on, you'd see actual kneecaps.
You're like, that guy has kneecaps like me?
Patrick Ewing has kneecaps like me?
A couple of like,
because this was like,
I mean,
Bob Fox just went to the WWE warehouse.
Did that video come out yet?
Yeah,
it's out.
Check it out.
Okay.
I didn't see it.
So awesome.
So this is like,
Marvel's in the MCU warehouse right now with this.
What if it's like,
they're just cooking.
They're like,
we're going to throw some Thanos in this one.
We're going to,
you know,
pluck a little bit of T'Challa.
I just love how they can like,
this is the second episode.
And I feel like they really expanded because they really did like mash two um projects together we're like he had a little iron man in
the first one this was like guardians meets black panther which was very fucking cool um a little i
looked up a couple easter eggs i feel like there's so many that probably the reviewers didn't even
get to yet the one was they read instead of it being named the milano after alyssa milano the
spaceship it was named the mandela which is pretty good yeah i didn't notice that at the time um and apparently i mean this is
right up bob fox's uh corner uh there's an x-wing hidden in the back of one of the spaces i couldn't
see it but they're telling me the next wing so if there's if someone says there's an x-wing i guess
there's an x-wing we're gonna start dabbling in Star Wars, I would fucking episode two of whatever.
That's sort of what it...
I mean, if you can do some shit like,
what if fucking, you know, Star-Lord meets Luke Skywalker?
Like, is that technically on the table?
It kind of is, right?
I mean, Disney owns both at this point.
So, I mean, it's separate studios,
but Kevin Feige works with them both, you know?
Star Wars, I mean, that's...
Like, I've always said people have
written some written in sometimes and they're like would you like to see that crossover i'm
like live action might be weird but cartoons yeah that's what cartoons are for yes that's
cartoons are perfect for this because you can make anything happen but like a like a
lightsaber fight versus like you know could a lightsaber penetrate uh captain america shield
yeah exactly yeah imagine like the guardians showed up on dagobah once and like ran into
yoda or something like that would be like i would like to see that yeah sure i mean especially like
yondu and and those guys feel like they would fit in with mandalorians they're kind of like you know
out there just like ravaging fucking uh definitely universe you know well that would be that's yondu
could be in that squad uh like bill burr's squad from the first yeah yeah for sure like a little
mercenary for hire type yeah that man that that makes the whole you know possibilities are now
infinite and it doesn't touch nearly the amount of people just because star wars is such a massive
franchise historically and marvel is like the king right now but like old folks like me me and you Kevin like when the Jetsons met the Flintstones that shit was fucking like my
mom's like wait a minute whoa those are yeah man that's why I love this shit like when Jetsons met
the Flintstones was crazy when Jason and Freddy finally did a movie together yeah Alien Predator
like these are things that you know for me it was the young fans listening to my mom's basement
will remember it was Timmy Turner from Fair fairly odd parents meeting Jimmy Neutron.
Oh my God.
The Jimmy Timmy power hour.
It was unbelievable that I didn't know that one.
That's fucking.
And that, that's what this is about because we spend our fucking sleepover saying, you
know, Jason has the machete, but Freddie's got the fingers like who would win and like,
here you go.
We'll give it to you.
You can even do
live action fucking again this is for a little the older crowd but uh tgif you have the people
from full house and you're like wait a minute they're in the same world same universe that was
nuts yes yes yes there's something about it i want i would love to know what it is psychologically
that just people get off on the idea of like this this is not supposed to be here, but it is like, that's so amazing.
It just, it's fun. And speaking of, I have a few,
I've written down myself. We've got a few from the fans.
I'd love to get into these. What ifs the first in honor of KFC joining the
show, I wrote down as what if KFC were a Yankees, Rangers,
Giants, Nets fan.
I think about this every day of my life.
I mean, I'm a Mets fan from the Bronx.
I should not be a Mets fan.
I lived behind enemy lines my whole life.
It's all because of the fucking designated hitter.
My grandfather hated the DH and was like, fuck that.
It's not real baseball.
So I'm going to be a fan of the NL.
So I'm a Mets fan.
I did not know that.
Holy shit.
Otherwise, he's a fireman from the Bronx.
He would have just been a fucking Yankee fan.
And I would have spent my childhood, you know, dynasty parades left and right.
But I also run the risk of becoming a Gabagool douchebag then.
And I don't, I really don't know.
It's the only, it's a what if that I can't answer
because it's like the two most important things in my life
are my sports teams winning,
but not being a fucking dickhead Yankee fan.
So like, would I sacrifice that?
And it's, I don't know.
Like, I can't imagine I would be so happy, right?
I'd be a champion like 10 times over
if I flipped to the other side.
But also there'd be a me,
there'd be a variant of me pausing a Yankee game,
taking a screenshot of me in the crowd
and being like, look at this fucking loser douchebag
because i'm sure i would look the part and act the part i need to see that someone needs to
photoshop douchebag kfc we got red socks dave last week with jared's haircut and tattoos now i need
to see douchebag yankees fan kfc i'll do it for halloween it's halloween oh that would be fantastic
yeah but that i don't know if i can do it man man. It's like, and then the main thing for me career wise, if,
if a barstool blogger had the, the Eli beats Brady,
like, like for me, if I had that with Dave to be like, whatever, man,
I got your boy twice, like no big deal. That would probably, you know,
even just beating them in the playoffs was no big deal uh that would probably you know even just beating them in the
playoffs was a big deal like having the ultimate like i could laugh in jerry thornton's face and
dave's face because i got the one little thing that brady never had yeah you could say oh yeah
brady could win superbowls as long as he's not playing against eli
just like yeah whatever man it's no big deal. That's crazy to me.
So it would be, there'd be a lot of pros, but a lot of,
there's more pros than cons, but the cons are like awful to me.
So I don't know.
I think Barstool would actually be worse if that was the case,
if you were a Giants fan,
just because I think the dynamic that Dave would always end up with the
upper hand on you, no matter what, it's kind of was part of the thing, right? Like if up with the upper hand on you no matter what.
It kind of was part of the thing, right?
Like if you had had that in 2011, forget it.
If 07, forget it.
Because 07, Patriots fans to this day, they talk shit and then you just say 07.
And you see the light drain from their eyes.
You know what I mean?
And I love that.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm going to tell you what happens if KFC is a, from birth, you know, Yankee fan.
Just Yankee fan.
Throw away the other fucking name. Kevin's a Yankee fan from birth.
He is currently a, he's at Deloitte and he has a beautiful six plus seven figure job at this point.
And he's a fucking, he's a straight corporate drone.
Very happy.
He was a cute monkey, but elevated from acute life kind of has a corner office house on the beach in the summer all that
kind of stuff he's definitely not a barstool barstool is probably the words for it but kevin
calanci is not a barstool and he is successful in the finance world no doubt in my mind and the
financial crisis never happens the butterfly effect on this one affects like global markets
economics yeah covid might not happen on this one as well, yeah.
You're our star lord, basically.
You are our Peter Quill.
Instead, we have you at Barstool and everything got fucked up.
If that never happens, everyone's just happier right now.
People's families are alive without Kevin.
I love that you say the storyline here, the script,
is that Dave always ends up with the upper hand.
The problem is it's not a script.
It's real fucking life.
Yeah, he was talking about the life draining out of your eyes.
I saw it drain out when he said that.
Yeah.
I'm like fucking – I'm hoping one day I have my Mick Foley Mankind moment.
When Mankind won the title and they like ran him around and everybody came out like
this dude has been eating shit for fucking 20 years like let's let him have his moment maybe
i'll finally have that one day where where dave's not shitting all over me yeah i hope so too kevin
because i'm getting lumped into the frank was right campaign and it's like this is my life
like i'm sorry i'm in the middle of all of
it it's hysterical when he's trolling you guys oh it makes me laugh trolling clem is that's me
whether it's the mets or the jets or my family or just my life my existence he's always doing
that to me you're getting one one taste of it and you can't take it imagine if it was everything
my phone it's crazy i haven't shot the place up yet.
Twitter is poison
right now for me. I don't even want to turn it on because I don't want to see
just a bunch of... That's the thing people don't understand.
It's always the Yankee fans. I go to these people
and Frank is wet. I'm like, oh, another agreement.
And it's their profile, NYY, go Yanks.
And I'm like, it's just the fucking morons
doing that, but you just see the Frank is right
trending.
Oh, God. fucking morons doing that. But you just see the Frank is right. Trending. I got another KFC scenario for you here.
And this one is basically because Brendan's not here.
So we could throw this scenario out there. What if KFC were an only child?
I feel like so much changes there because what if Brendan never introduces
him to podcasts and all this kind of stuff.
Or even just the, the, the older brother,
I was older because like the, you know, the older brother said,
because like everything I did, I liked the music he liked.
I liked the clothes I wore, the clothes he wore. I like, I liked baseball.
Then he switched to basketball. I decided to like basketball.
And then of course all the work stuff.
I mean, I don't think I've ever made a move at Barstool without it first being his idea.
It would probably be more of the Deloitte shit.
I probably would have just like –
Just another cute monkey, alternate reality.
That was the only thing I ever did that was like –
like even my summer jobs were what he did before Barstool.
So like my dad gave that to my brother and
then like i was gonna follow that that track but i ended up just somehow getting this finance job
so that was the one thing i did independent of both of them and so i probably would have just
done more of that but yeah there'd probably never be any uh it's funny the blog i kind of started
on my own that was the one thing like like my brother was never like, yo man, you should start a blog.
It was once I started blogging, he was like, you've got to have social media.
You've got to do a podcast, like everything else.
So I might have still started to write somehow some somewhere that wasn't
totally inspired by him, but everything else was. So yeah,
it would probably be a much, you know, anybody who enjoys my content,
it would be a much more boring world for all of us without him.
I actually like the worst promos ever.
The answer is Kevin Clancy is a five time New York times bestseller of like
Bigfoot erotica fan fiction. And like, and like some like, like,
it's like, Oh, that guy did a big, I've read his Bigfoot erotica book.
What did she read? It's like, Oh, I read this, you know,
thing about the 90 smoke shows and you know kelly kapowski and stuff like that like i feel
like kevin sticks hard like the keith hernandez biography or something like yeah like like if for
sure not ever took off and was uh its own thing it would be just like heavy 90s nostalgia over
and over and over and over again until i'm dead. Which isn't a bad life to live, to be honest.
Not at all, brother.
Not at all.
All right, this was an overall Barstool one,
but I thought of this this morning, and I thought it was interesting.
What if Roger Goodell and the NFL embraced Barstool like Dana White and the UFC?
We would be worse off.
You think?
I do.
I do.
We say this every year with media week or media day.
Like all the NFL has to do is give us credentials.
And then we get in the building and we ask the same lame old questions.
But when they deny us, that's when we're doing costumes and breaking in and dead, getting dragged out. I think that we would, I think that you naturally become like the regular media when you get let in
to the circle. And when you're on the outside,
that's when you can be the pirate ship and the renegades and all that.
Now Dana has been particularly awesome. And so, you know,
maybe by this point Dave would be like calling a Monday night football game,
you know, that's a different story.
Like the way they've embraced Pat McAfee a little bit,
like there probably would be, there would be more corporate pluses.
Like, like there'd be good things like, you know, maybe the, you know,
bar store would have naming rights to a stadium and we would do a broadcast
of a game. There'd be, there'd be probably big money-making good things,
but we would lose the
whole lose a lot of content you know i mean dave dave became dave because of that feud you know
like el prez was kind of the blogger who had like you know his funny storylines and inside jokes
of everything else like every other walk of life but then then Dave Portnoy came to fame being the NFL Goodell guy.
And so –
Getting arrested, the Brady Four, all that, yeah.
I mean, that – you know, there would be no Brady Four.
There would be no Goodell clown shirt.
There would be no –
Yeah, imagine Goodell was just like, yeah, send him up.
I'll have him eat it.
Yeah, right.
If it was a Goodell shirt that's like a positive one, it'd be like, oh, we love Goodell.
Yeah, we'd be calling him Uncle Roger.
Uncle Roger, oh my God.
I spent shivers down my spine when you said that.
Dave would have watched the Monday Night Football game with him,
and they would have just been palling around,
and everyone would have been like, this fucking sucks.
This is weird, dude.
And the offshoot of that is then
goodell becomes likable right it's like oh he's playing ball with the barstool guys and like dave
would bring out the right side right it's like that's what i that's my least favorite thing
about part of my take is they make guys i hate likable like you sons of bitches you did it again
and roger goodell would become likable and i do not want to live in a world roger goodell is like
because he is such a and i think the nfl owners don't want that either because he just takes all the heat whenever, you know,
some scumbag gets a short suspension or something like that.
They kind of want him to be like the villain.
And it's kind of like what if Steve Austin just like Vince McMahon played ball.
It's like, oh, Steve, you're the number one contender.
Here's your belt.
Go get it.
It's not about that.
And it made them both better.
It made Vince McMahon the heel.
It made Steve Austin the face everyone loved.
Great comparison there. All right. Now we got some fan what ifs from the listeners this one i'll start off with actually the behind the blog one featuring uh kfc's most recent behind
the blog jeff d low trill rafterty wrote in and said what if jeff d low never sent the t lizard
tweet i mean he said it himself.
The only reason he's at Barstool is because of that tweet.
That's crazy.
Jeff D. Lowe is probably just at Good Morning America to this day.
Probably, you know, he'd be tweeting about Robin Roberts, maybe.
To be fair, he said he was like, I left a really good gig.
Oh, he did.
I remember specifically having conversations with jeff where he's like
i really want to do barstool and me telling him like i know how much you make a good one in america
there's no way that's going to be entry level for you at barstool he's like i don't care yeah he was
he said he watched the rundown when we were on comedy central and was like i want to work there
specifically and like set his mind to it and uh so there was like nothing that was going to stop him
but you know money wise and you know it sent him to the olympics he was living out his like dreams
meeting these celebrities uh but i guess it wasn't his dream his dream was barstool so
that yeah without that tweet there's no dozen yeah there's no dozen there's no uh there's no yeah movie rankings.net great great website
he's he is a host of a tuesday night trivia show though and you know he's like at summer
like at a bar yes it's on the upper east side but those haircuts like at some point he's gonna
have to make a decision about those haircuts he's not really doing that forever um actually
if he stays at gma i guess he could keep getting his haircuts.
I just want to quickly give a shout out
to Team Your Mom.
And everyone knows,
everyone knows
that Jack McCarthy
was fucked on that Nick Fairley answer.
Jeff D'Lo said that never in the
history of the dozen has there been
as much of an uproar
about a question. He said he was at the Parker house all over the Jersey shore.
People screaming at him at the bar.
You were wrong.
You fucked him over.
Give him the point.
He knows he was wrong.
The world knows he was wrong.
Your mom got jobbed and we still persevered.
It's championship hangover.
Team CD undefeated.
Team CD undefeated.
The next one is a Marvel what if from Dennis Neary.
He said, what if Thor would have aimed for the head or Thanos' arm when throwing the Stormbreaker at Thanos?
What if Infinity War ended with Thanos dying or the Infinity Gauntlet getting cut off his arm right before the snap?
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what i'm talking about too with the star lord thing like
yeah how they prevented it um well there's one last movie that's for sure um
good point great movie the the highest grossing movie in the history of the world right
yeah fucking they got to re-release endgame so they could get that record back did you hear my
fear they got to do a double double feature where they do Infinity War right into Endgame.
Great idea.
I'll sit on my ass for six hours
and go to the bathroom 10 times.
I would definitely go.
But I'm going to watch it.
That would be so awesome.
There would be...
Who would be...
It would offer up a great heel turn
where someone else could just be like,
it's there for the taking.
I have the answer i'm gonna go snap
it who is it so i'm singing this so i was like because again dr strange saw all these things
play out and he's saying this is what has to happen thor picks it up and is like can i bring
back my mom right and all the people he's lost and he starts snapping he starts doing shit and
i mean half the universe getting wiped out is basically best case scenario at this point because
it's like any of us picking up the gauntlet i mean granted he's a god he has a bunch of magical shit
but like that thing no one's ready for that fucking thing like thanos used it twice and he
was like that thing his entire life was about it so i think thor starts doing it and you know when
you like try to start fixing things and then you just begin to more broken than when you started
that's exactly what i feel like which would be an awesome what if to watch play out like that i mean i want to see that now that you just laid it out like a
corrupted thor that sounds awesome but i but i also i feel like it came from a good place of
like i want to bring my mom yeah i'm thinking of like who would be like just all of a sudden
like lord of the rings your favorite fucking movie bob like power craze like they're looking
at scarlet witch what if he is right after he's
able to kill vision scarlet witch is like fuck this uh throw that magic in with the gauntlet
you're getting some fucking yeah crazy shit going on or just like what if what if uh fucking captain
america decided like to be a power hail hydra boom yeah like i've been waiting for this moment
and now like i got all the power in the universe.
Fuck all you guys.
That would be my ultimate like Austin shaking hands with Vince McMahon at the end of WrestleMania 17.
My God.
No.
The final.
What if he.
We know he held the secret from Tony Stark that his parents are cold murdering cold blood by his best friend.
So like there's no.
I can see Cap getting there. He's not not pure white it's a little bit of that yeah i mean listen by
end game they showed he's pure white fucking he's worthy he got the hammer he got it all
oh we know he's pure white bobby's raised in the 40s i say oh yeah i saved my favorite for last
this one is sent in by nathaniel mckowski it a Barstool. What if it's just a different universe?
He said, what if it were the Eddie show with Dave Portnoy and company?
Dave's like, all right, bang, bang.
Can you imagine?
Oh, man.
Dave every every week interviewing Eddie about like, that girlfriend of yours what's she up to
like any big deals
you got like you have unlimited money
now don't you Eddie
Eddie's got a tattoo on his finger one day
like just the funniest fucking
he's wearing chains that he's like I don't have time for this
shit like I'm trying to fucking vacation over here
Eddie's like he's
he's recording remotely but it's
at a lake house in like wisconsin instead of my south beach and shit like that it's the world is
such a better place it's so wholesome it's so happy i still remember like the minute i knew
eddie was a fucking superstar was back before i think he was even it was definitely before his
full time remember when he's just that was like a cold a cold front out in chicago and he was just picking up people who were waiting for the bus and driving them and just basically
doing the dog walk with them and he was just bullshitting with them for five minutes as he
was driving them and i was like this is incredible i don't know anything about this but just some
random dude waiting to go to his grocery store job and i was enthralled with it so it would be
that was one of those moments like if we were bigger when he had done that that would have
been mega viral definitely definitely if it went on like the instagram or whatever like yeah this was just
my favorite one when i read that i laughed out loud it gave me the same reaction as the the red
socks dave one from last week i was just like these alternate realities are just fantastic
the idea of eddie being like like would eddie still would he still be like doing dog walks and drafts and stuff
and dave is or is dave the one doing that i think dave's the one doing that i think dave's in a tiny
closet office right so like so eddie would be like dave would be saying something like yeah well we
got controversy in the snake draft like you know we tweeted it out but he knew who was on the you
know which number and eddie would be like, shut the fuck up.
We don't care.
I love Eddie would have all underlings.
Maybe it's swapped, though.
Maybe like Dave and the snake draft is like Dave, Tommy Smokes, Kareem, Frankie.
And maybe like Eddie is doing pizza reviews filmed by like Carl and stuff.
No, Eddie's got to be doing like beef reviews or something
yeah beef reviews yeah yeah beef reviews uh drinking beer drinking mill lights you know
someone wrote in what if dave was uh lactose intolerance or lactose intolerant i was like yep
no pizza reviews that would suck that would be very funny pizza is like the one thing it's the
perfect food and every single like i remember i I remember, I mean, like, look,
Dan can make anything legible.
Burrito versus pizza was the biggest blowout of all time.
And the fact he kept it going that long is almost a tribute to Dan itself.
Let me throw you a what if.
If there's no KFC radio, there's no burrito versus pizza argument.
There's no pizza.
There's no pizza reviews.
There's no big cat mustache. That that came we were doing playoff beards
and he needed to shave for a wedding and like the the agreement was like you can keep like you keep
the mustache oh my god i i mean i must have known that back in the day but i've forgotten that's
historical that's the origin of the stash the amount of shit that was born from that was yeah there'd be no holy shit the
6 12 18 24 challenge that was it too and that was go presco became a big thing go presco yeah
there's a lot i remember watching like waiting for that rundown live in my basement being like
here we go 6 12 you know a 6 8 12 24 challenge that was so absurd that anybody like there's no
way dave was jerking off any amount of those times.
There's no way he was drinking that many beers.
But yeah, you take away KMC Radio and some of those old, early things that spiraled out of the show.
I mean, Dave always loved pizza for sure.
But would there be one bite?
Would there be an app?
Would there be a series?
Who knows?
Yeah.
I mean, we're even more things in the future.
Like he's talked about on Dave Fortnum's show show we're not breaking any news here they're like frozen pizzas it's gotten to
that point where there's going to be fucking barstool frozen pizza it's ridiculous but it's
crazy and think about all the viral pizza reviews the celebrities like it's brought so much attention
to barstool completely different world he is the pizza guy now you know and actually now he's
probably one step further from that but like you know he went from Elprez to like the,
the day port or the football,
the Goodell guy to the pizza guy.
Now,
like the trader businessman and the fun guy,
he was the small business hero to now he's the fucking wall street guy,
which is like kind of the opposite of that.
It's,
it's from a Brendan Clancy,
the old guy,
super producer,
BC.
He gets started and just these options.
So that kind of goes into that one.
It's fucking crazy, man. Nuts. It's insane's insane all right this has been a lot of fun kevin thank you for joining us hopefully we'll get you back on before the season's over if
you're available the seats open for you because debating what ifs for with you even the the what
ifs that we're doing with listeners is always a blast hopefully we'll get the the foursome of you
me brendan and Clem back on soon.
I'm always down. Let's do it. All right. Thank you for listening, everyone. And up next,
a surprise interview with Stephen Amell. What surprise interview at the end of My Mom's Basement? Nobody expected it. What? All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to My Mom's
Basement. It's Robbie Fox. I am here with Stephen Amell. We may be joined by Alexander Ludwig in a
minute to talk about Heels.
This just premiered on Starz last night as we're recording this, and it had to be great to finally get reactions to it, right?
After you've been, you know, waiting on this for so long. I've been waiting on it for so long as a wrestling fan.
You know, we hear the murmurs, we hear CM Punk's back in the ring, all of these random things about it.
What did it feel like getting to see the reaction?
Oh, I mean, it's the reason my eyes are all puffy today.
Thank you.
I mean, not having been crying.
But no, I'm just, you know, I'm tired, man.
You know, it's been a long time coming.
It's been a little over two years since I actually agreed, you know, it's, it's been, it's been a long time coming. It's been a little over two years since I actually agreed, you know,
with stars to, to, to get this done.
And so for it to actually air last night, it's just like this,
I don't know, it's just like a surreal moment.
Yeah. I could imagine.
I spoke to both Michael Waldron and CM Punk about this show.
And both of them had this sense of like relief when talking about you
getting cast in this role because you come from a world of appreciating wrestling and actually
being a fan did you get the same relief from reading the script as a fan and realizing like
oh this is a wrestling show written by people who love wrestling well that's the thing you can tell
right away um you know you can't you can't fake that and you couldn't fake the enthusiasm that Michael
Waldron has for it. And just everything is so fleshed out because,
you know, this, this is, this is just a world that he's so familiar with.
So, I mean,
I don't think that I felt relief per se,
but 15 minutes in 15 pages in.
So about 15 minutes into that first script, I was, I was like, I'm like,
yep, this is happening. So there it is.
And that's amazing. And you're coming from the world of arrow.
And as a comic book fan and wrestling fan myself,
I know both fan bases can be a bit rabid.
I feel like that's a good word for them so did you feel any
pressure going into this being like man i better nail this because i know wrestling fans i mean you
you're very familiar from your matches in wwe and all and all that so like did you have a sense of
responsibility on your shoulders in this lead role well yeah but but only but but that's that would be that way it
would be that way if i was doing anything yeah you know i feel i feel a big responsibility to
be as prepared as i should be um to understand the world as much as i should um you know i'm i'm not
i'm not i'm not a method actor by any stretch of the imagination but i do think it's important to i mean i need
to know everything that jack should know right and and with wrestling um you know we we had a
bunch of great people because i mean michael waldron he's a fan but there are certain things
that even the most tried and true fans don't know that's kayfabe right i remember when i was at all in and uh just got
down to got down by the ring and i was chatting with kenny omega um just about just just basic
things that you do in the ring basic uh you know basic basic techniques basic psychology
any of those things and they were shooting some behind the scenes footage
for all in for being the elite whatever and the guy got closer to the camera and can he stop what
he was doing it was like uh-uh no go away oh that's interesting so there are still there are
still things so to to have someone like michael Michael Waldron, he nailed all the little bits,
but then we had such a great bevy of people like Cody, like Kenny,
like Matt and Nick, like Phil, from the world of professional wrestling.
Luke Hawks, who was our wrestling consultant on it,
that we just – I didn't feel pressure because wrestling fans like comic fans they just have they just
have high expectations they just want it to be good they think i mean they're not no one's looking
for perfection right that that'd be a that'd be a that'd be a misnomer no one is looking for
perfection they're looking for you to bust your ass and actually care yeah and if you do it is
i think you nailed it with,
by saying they want you to care.
That's really what it is.
Like if we see as fans and it's,
it's for comics,
it's for,
I'm a big star Wars fan.
It's the same thing with that kind of stuff.
If you see people really putting in an effort and putting in their,
their love and their passion towards the project,
like how can you not get behind it a little bit?
No,
I mean,
yeah.
It's like,
you're not going to like it.
You're not going to like every episode. You you know i mean thinking thinking back to back to arrow
you know we um you know we had seasons that people liked we had seasons that people didn't
but i can tell you there's no lack of effort right you just you just you just do your best
you say the words on the page um
you know i got to watch the finale last night for the first season it's great oh um yeah i mean it
makes you want to watch more much like i think the end of the first episode makes you want to
watch the second well i told michael waldron in our interview i because you know we got the
interviews coming up i was sent the first four episodes and screen and i binged them just one two three four in a row and then i was kind of like
oh well damn i got nothing for the next month now like and like you know now i really want it now i
feel like i'm into the show i start to know the characters god damn now i really gotta wait for
episode five you know but i don't know how old you are but back in the day they did used to release television shows oh come on i know that i know that
no that's funny though and going over the the brother storyline with jack and ace obviously
there's the brett and owen storylines and i was fortunate enough to talk to brett for the first
time earlier this year and he told me about kayfabing at family dinners with owen and being
like let's sit on opposite sides of the table because you know a second cousin might be here
and we don't know how trustworthy they are we get to see some kind of similar stuff between jack and
ace like a church they have kind of a kayfabe-esque scene like that did you draw any inspiration from
brother versus brother feuds outside of
wrestling for this inner rivalry because there's obviously so many i got hints of noel and liam
from oasis and i don't know if that's just me but a southern american wrestling version of that
where it's like yeah noel's writing all the music he's doing all the work but
the crowd's cheering on liam yeah i mean look, I think that Jack is a little unsure of himself.
And no, so no real inspiration from outside of the wrestling ring.
I mean, it's just there.
And Alexander's such an easy guy to work with when he shows up to things.
He's such an easy guy to work with that we just took it from there.
But I don't think that, you know,
I don't think that Jack is bothered by people cheering for him cheering for
ACE because Jack just loves people booing him.
Just loves it. And that's his character after all, right?
Like the ACE character. Yeah. Yeah. And then Jack's good at it.
Like he's good at, he's good at making people boo him. I know it's,
it's the more fun it's the heel being heels more fun straight up just is that's what you hear from every wrestler
i feel like that stepped in the ring they're like you just have so much more freedom oh yeah well
i mean also too i don't know how much you know but you know the heel the heels very much in charge
in the in the uh in the match i mean the heels he's almost always one that's calling the spots
you know he's in you know he's in charge um you know he's he's almost always one that's calling the spots you know
he's in you know he's in charge um you know he's he's gonna he's gonna lay down the heat on and you
know it's it's just i don't know it's just a lot easier to make people boo you you can move slower
you can be more deliberate you can just you know smash popcorn out of someone's hands as you're
walking out of the ring which i did a
bunch of times in the show very happy what was it like stepping into the ring with cm punk and sort
of being his return opponent in a way uh yeah it was great man phil was i mean phil can still really
go um he he was excellent but the the jack versus r Rabies match is, we really wanted it to be kind of a, you know,
kind of a gimmicky match, right. With the,
with the possum and with the fact that the possum is one of my favorite
moments in the whole show. It's so good. We won't, no, we won't just, yeah.
Look out for episode three.
There's a possum.
And I mean, he was, I mean, he, he took, he took,
he took real, real good care of me. But yeah,
we wanted to create some sort of like fun gimmick match.
And so that's what I'm trying to learn a little bit because everything that you
do in the ring, when you get in there,
like right before I went in for the first time at SummerSlam back in 2015,
Triple H came up to me, We're standing in a gorilla position.
And he just goes, when you get out there, he goes, just slow everything down.
And then when you're absolutely positive that you are going too slow,
slow it down some more.
And then just when you think that you couldn't possibly be going any slower slow it down I'm like oh okay and you try
to do that but then I go back and I look at my match from all in when I uh did the table spot
with Christopher Daniels and I climbed the ropes I climbed the ropes hit myself in the head jump off and go to the table in in total
about five seconds i could have taken 30 seconds to climb those ropes give the crowd a chance to
like get up on their feet but no no no no no no i just charged right ahead it's so funny that but
you've gone back and watched the matches so, are you interested in stepping back in the ring, getting back in front of a crowd?
Yeah. Yeah. Only because I, I, you know, when I, when I did that,
when I, when I did this stuff with, with Cody in 2015, and then I guess,
you know, at ring of honor and all in, in 2018, I mean, I'm just kind of,
I'm just kind of faking it. You know, like there's certain things that I could do.
Like I knew how to do a springboard.
You know, I knew how to run the ropes.
But I wasn't even comfortable at that point taking a flatback bump.
When I did my Ring of Honor um, I either come in the ring and I gave an RKO to Frankie Kazarian or,
or Christopher Daniels.
I can't remember.
And,
um,
I did it.
I had never tried it before.
And I came out of the ring and I turned to,
I turned to Matt of the,
of the young bucks that I went in my,
is my head bleeding?
And he went,
no.
I said,
is there steam coming off of my ears? And he went, uh,
and I went, I can't,
I can barely feel anything North of my shoulders right now.
I just jacked up my neck so bad because I didn't know what I was doing.
So now, you know,
now I feel like I've learned some of the basic like ring psychology.
Like I don't actually think that I would be feeling like I had to rush.
My ring wind is better. My awareness is better. And you know, I've,
I, I put a lot of time and effort into
you know, the, the, the basic moves, locking up,
throwing a punch, bumping running the ropes
um so all that stuff i feel like it would be fun but my wife will kill me
i actually watched i remember it like it was yesterday your summer slam match
um in the kitchen of my mexican restaurant job i was a bus boy on my iphone it was like what
the wu network had just launched and i remember and i'm not just saying this i remember being
like holy shit as an arrow fan i was rooting for you i was like yeah thank you that steven
amell is doing like is he gonna do a good job because celebrity wrestling appearances can go
really well or they can go really poorly and i remember being just so blown away and being like
yes it went so well and then going forward we got pat mcafee we got bad bunny i feel like you
turned the tide thank you man who's pat mcafee i still don't know who he is oh come on you know
pat mcafee i don't i don't actually he doesn't he has a show right yeah so he was an nfl uh punter
and he was like one of the most prolific punters of
all time for the colts he retired he started doing media and stuff and then he went into
wwe he now commentates for smackdown oh cool yeah good for him friend of the program but also like
kind of funny that you didn't know who he was um if you had to play a wrestler from real life do you have one in mind that you're like i feel
like i could step into that role because i interviewed uh paul walter hauser who's a
massive wrestling fan and he would love to play arn anderson one day he said that would be like
a dream role for him oh man when i did my training with when my, my, the first time that I got into a WWE ring,
it was in Victoria, British Columbia.
They had a house show that Saturday night and I started working out all my
stuff that I was going to do with, with Cody.
It basically started putting the match together.
And the person that was their book in it was Arne Anderson.
It was awesome. Yeah. It was really cool. He's a, he's a, he's a great guy.
Jeez.
Ooh.
A couple.
I would love to play Mr. Perfect. I drew a lot of inspiration from him.
I love that guy.
And oh gosh i mean jake the snake is just one of the all-time you know all-time greats like people look well he never won the belt remember cody telling me specifically like like jake never
wore a belt because jake didn't need one yeah right and oh gosh there's one more i had it and it's it slipped away so oh uh roddy piper wow that
would be a great one too yeah that'd be a that'd be i mean that that would be that'd be incredible
we should figure out if anyone is playing roddy piper in the uh uh hogan movie right
in the hogan biopic yeah yeah yeah yeah i can play roddy piper come on
put that skirt on the hot rod shirt i could see hey hey hey hey hey it's a kilt i'm sorry yeah
it's all right that's okay um if did you have any input into the gear that you actually wore
your character you did yeah yeah so laura power was our costume director. She's Chris Bauer's wife. So Wild Bill's wife.
And I wanted to go.
I change up my my ring gear a little bit, although I think after having watched me wear pants as opposed to as opposed to trunks,
I think I think I might actually switch back to trunks if we get to do more episodes but i wanted to um i wanted to do just a cool like vests and stuff like that
yeah and um you know and that that first vest has a has a real like stone cold feel to it
and and they also uh one of the nice things they did was they gave me a lot of input on the, on the DWL belt.
Cause I remember, yeah, I remember seeing the first one and obviously we wanted to try to model it off of, you know, somewhere between the, the wing ding Eagle WWF championship belts and, um, and, and the classic Ric F flair you know world championship yeah belt and i remember
the first time that i saw the dwl belt and i'm like no way guys uh like what's wrong i'm like
it needs to be way shittier than that and it's i mean we're an independent professional wrestling
promotion in duffy georgia like it it that's, first of all, there's only one of them. And it's probably,
it's probably been on the floor of like a hundred different bars.
So let's scuff it up. Let's let's, let's give it some character.
And they did.
I love that. Yeah. The belt looks great. It reminds me of the, uh,
like IWGP title had that scruffiness for so long.
And that was what fans loved about it. They actually,
they went in a few years ago, they replaced the strap of the intercontinental long and that was what fans loved about it they actually they went in
a few years ago they replaced the strap of the intercontinental title and it was like
yeah sleek and clean and white and all the fans were like no no what did you do we wanted the
dirty gray one like what did you do so i like the dwl belt and honestly this show was awesome
as a wrestling fan thank you man realizing that like the inner workings of wrestling the way
they're shown in this show i think is going to give the non-wrestling fan
a much better appreciation for why we love this business and why we love the industry.
So I'm glad that it's a show that exists,
and I can't wait to see the second half of the season.
All right. Well, thank you very much, man. I appreciate it.
It's going to be on most Sundays, almost every Sunday at 9 p.m. You can get the Stars app. Yeah, it's uh it's gonna be on most sundays almost every sunday at 9 p.m you can
get the stars app uh yeah it's good times everyone go get the stars app and watch it i selfishly need
this to get a season two because i just need to continue to see it fair enough man all right
steven thank you so much i really appreciate you robbie have a good one buddy