My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 148 - ‘WHAT IF…?’ EPISODE 4 RECAP WITH CLEM AND KFC

Episode Date: September 3, 2021

KFC makes his triumphant return to the Basement (for the 200th episode of My Mom's Basement!) to discuss the most depressing episode of Marvel’s ‘What If….?’ yet with Robbie and Clem - focusing on Doctor Strange and his evil twin - as well as a bunch of Barstool-related ‘What If’ scenarios. 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Go to CutsClothing.com/BASEMENT for 15% off the Only Shirt Worth Wearing Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3G. I am your host, Robbie Fox, and this is a very special episode. We have Clem, we have KFC. I'm glad KFC's here. It makes it feel a little more special having a three-man crew this is the 200th episode of my mom's basement it's not episode 200

we kind of took after george lucas and made our numbering system real confusing because we have bonus episodes and we have other things that are just not numbered in the system correctly right this is the official 200th episode of my mom's basement it's like you know wrestlemania 2000 wasn't the 2000th wrestlemania right my mom's basement 200 will not be the 200th episode of my mom's basement it'll be like the 400th or something i was gonna say the fact that it's so that means it's more than 200 right so i mean that's good for you man that's a big it's a big number you're getting up there it took me a while to get into the hundreds of episodes uh with casey radio back in the day just That's a big, it's a big number. You're getting up there. It took me a while to get into the hundreds of episodes with Casey radio back in the day, just doing once a week. So that's a big number.

You should be proud of it. Yeah, definitely. And you know what? Thank you to all the listeners that have been here either from the beginning. If you joined recently for the Wanda vision, Loki recaps, that stuff. I appreciate everyone who's listened, sent in questions. This is like my favorite thing I do at Barstool. So I feel very fortunate that I've been able to do this for 200 episodes. Clem has joined for most of them.

Dana White has joined for like half of them as well. Shout out to Uncle Dana. But yeah, Dana White is also on My Mom's Basement this week. Go check out the new interview on YouTube. We talked all about his new show, The Ultimate Surfer, which is after Bachelor in Paradise. We didn't even touch on fighting. It's the first interview with Uncle Dana where we talked all about his new show, The Ultimate Surfer, which is after Bachelor in Paradise. We didn't even touch on fighting. It's the first interview with Uncle Dana

where we talked all about surfing. It was actually a lot of fun because I didn't know how into surfing he was. So there was like a very genuine curiosity from me for a lot of that stuff. So go check that out now if you haven't already. I feel like Dana is like, it's funny that he's like a surfer bro.

Cause I always think of surfing as like zen and kind of like relaxed in in a way and he's obviously like ufc and mma is like and he's bald too i said to him i said you know sometimes people say to me you're too skinny to cover mma i said getting into the surfing world are people ever like you're bald and he said no he linked up with kelly slater right i was gonna say yeah yeah i once i once made a rep I tried to make a joke like that. I knew the name Kelly Slater. I never knew what he looked like. And I said something like, I just want to have like surfer hair, like look like Kelly

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by far i mean if this was like a live action movie and like a two-hour thing where they really fleshed it out i mean i think this would be yeah that's a full story right there you could make a movie out of this what actually funny enough for myself um i just watched dr strange for the first really like just a week ago. Pretty good, right? Well, I saw, and I wonder if this ties all into the trailer as well, because it's like Dr. Strange and Spider-Man was so heavy in that trailer episode, in that trailer, and then it got me thinking, because I had said to Dr. Strange I know from Endgame and the later compilation movies, he's so like, we must protect the world and not

take any risks and then I had people being like well you know he was he was kind of a cocky arrogant dude who like wanted what he wanted and I was like oh word okay let me check that out so I just went and watched it so this wouldn't have made nearly as much sense to me yeah really and um and then I'm so happy I did because this i mean that was amazing do you think that that they released the what if with dr strange coming right on the heels of that of that uh trailer does that make sense or is that too uh conspiracy theory no i think it's a possibility someone tweeted me that right before we started the podcast and said i think you know maybe the evil dr strange is that dr strange we saw messing with peter parker or something and i sort of agree now the evil

doctor strange and this is obviously like ends the universe i don't know how they would necessarily do that but they could bring him in from a branched reality or something and i really think what if is really just going to catapult a bunch of stories i think it's going to be almost the new comic books for mcu where they could like test things out see what works and the stuff that people love why not bring it in if people love it like i think captain carter you could bring hayley atwell in and put her in the suit and like a little cameo and people would lose their minds for it evil doctor strange people would lose their minds for it's such a shame you can't do the chadwick boseman star lord like that was such a good character people would love to see that costume in live action stuff maybe one day down the line we'll see like a nice thanos chilling in the

background of powers of duck imagine don't tease me bob don't tease me right now oh kev i'm so happy you got this episode too because i was like is this one strange enough for you was it crazy enough for you kev because i feel like this goes into your nerdy sci-fi you know yeah and kind of what bob said maybe is true. Cause you know, when the real diehards will say, Oh, in the comics, that's actually what happened or, Oh, you see that right there. That's what happened in the comics. I hope that people are, I hope they have to reference what if like, Oh yeah, yeah. The, the,

the bad, the bad Dr. Strange is from, you know, what if we saw, we saw what happens to him when he loses something he loves, he'll go to the end of the world to do it so it makes sense yeah what if what if tom holland what if peter parker is pulling on his heartstrings because he's like i lost the love of my life because of this and he's thinking about the way you know he lost his love of his life or you know whatever maybe maybe that makes sense but i mean you know what I really appreciate about this and any show that does this? Sometimes when you just don't do a happy ending,

when you just don't wrap it up in a bow and you don't pull the rug out at the last second. Oh, actually, we time stone reversed it and it's all good. It was just like, yeah, man, you fucked up and you ruined the whole goddamn universe. And I like the tease of the happy ending too which we'll get to later but when he actually like gets powerful enough to like sense the watcher and acknowledge him and ask him for help and the watcher's like sorry bro i'm on the

fucking watcher i'm not the doer yeah man that was so good so so good i i actually had so when this had started and everything i was like oh yeah who is the girl because i i had seen dr strange it's been a while though i was like who is the girl? Because I had seen Doctor Strange. It's been a while though. I was like, who is the girl again? And then I remember it was Rachel McAdams. I'm like, oh yeah. If Rachel McAdams died in my fucking car right next to me, the love of my life. Like there's no human on the planet, other than my wife actually.

Let me say that one. That if I saw them die right in front of me. Because Rachel, I have this, this has been my long-standing take claire cleary in wedding crashers is the number one dream girl in any you know reality fiction tv movies whatever you want called i love her in that fucking it's crazy honestly to this day i still my brain cannot wrap that that rachel mcadams plays claire cleary and she plays regina from mean girls right it's like that's the same fucking chick she could be so evil yet so pure so it all makes perfect sense as someone that forgot that part about dr strange i could clearly

see going to the dark side to bring that fucking gem of a human back to real life hell yeah man and if you've ever seen southpaw that's like what the whole movie's about is that she dies and Jake Gyllenhaal is like, I'm going to go to the ends of the earth to fucking avenge that. Yeah. Now, let's get into the recap. But I mean, I would I would be doing this shit in a heartbeat. If I had powers like that, I'd be like, yeah, we'll roll the dice. We'll figure it out. Hey, guys, sorry to cut off the pod, but I got to tell everyone about Cuts Clothing to mark their five year anniversary this year.

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Yeah, so we start off with Dr. Strange picking Christine up. This is Rachel McAdams. They get into the car accident together this time. Obviously in the movie, it's just Dr. Strange alone. He's driving recklessly and he loses his hands. This episode says he loses his heart in christine um he still becomes dr strange he still defeats dormammu which i'm glad you saw that by the way kevin one of the coolest boss battles in marvel right awesome just like talking through it when he just keeps appearing like that so so good and

like come to marvel just like, what is this? So great. I love that. Still defeats him, still becomes Dr. Strange and all that. And this is two years later on the anniversary of her death. He's just staring out the window of the sanctum and Wong comes over to him. He's like, so sorry. Two years.

You know, it's actually Wong's voice, which we say it every week. It makes it so much better that it's their actual voices. So much better. And he says, don't do anything stupid. He's like, come down before you do something stupid. Dr. Strange looks at the eye and he's like, fuck it. I'm going to do something stupid. He goes back in time. He tries to save her and she dies again, even though he, you know, didn't drive recklessly this time. She dies. He goes back. He does it again. He decides, all right, let's stay at the banquet this time. She dies again. He decides, let's go out the banquet this time. She dies again. He decides, let's go out to eat this time. Someone walks in and fucking shoots her.

That was one of the darkest. God, Holy shit. And we learned that she just dies over and over and over again because the ancient one comes down and tells Dr. Strange, this was an absolute point in time, which I thought was, uh, maybe an insensitive term for what had happened to her she's like oh this is an absolute moment bro um but we see she dies over and over again it's really like uh wearing on Dr strange clearly and he's like I'm gonna do you some dark magic so she's like don't do this she puts up the little defense against him and he says you'll have to find me

first so he goes to this ancient library looks awesome looks like something out of tomb raider or something yes and he starts studying dark magic there where he learns he has to absorb other beings demons to become more powerful to bring his loved one back from the death kind of anakin skywalker vibes if you're into star wars like anakin losing padme him sensing that he's about to lose Padme. That's what made him go into the dark side. So did you get the same thing from that, Clem? Have you ever heard the story of Darth Plagueis? That was the exact right in my notes right here. Felt very Anakin-like, all that kind of thing.

And if you want to even go back to when she keeps dying over and over again, that was very Ground groundhog's day when the guy keeps dying and the way they did that yeah very groundhog's day it's like even when he's feeding him you know he choked it's like it's every single time and it's kind of fucked up because again love rachel mcadams and all any character she basically plays it was i was kind of laughing though that she was basically getting uncle ben every time she's just dead dead dead Man, the saddest is when he stands her up and he leaves her there. Yeah. And he's drinking in the bar and she just dies in like a fire or some shit.

Some accident, yeah. It was just, that was gut. I mean, you lose a little bit of the gravitas on the animation, you know, if this was a live action and every time he's like holding her face as she dies it would be fucking waterworks for me but uh but yeah credit to them for like still making it emotional it's almost like they're they're like you know fighting uphill to make you like feel that those men they they did you know it's very sad it's very i said to my girlfriend i was like i can't believe kids are gonna watch this like the last three episodes are so funny they're so like you know oh my god thanos is a good couple that look at the

duck and couple that with the ending that's like mommy like what happened like i don't fucking know kid apparently we're all dead the universe has been destroyed sweetie everyone's gone i asked sienna to watch this with me and she was like no i'm good like she wanted to watch whatever she was watching thank god because i would have scarred her for life more than the uh human trafficking thing bob didn't give me the heads up about black widow on the giant uh big screen in the movie theater uh how about stephen strange too like he clearly did this because he had the fucking sweet car with the you know the doors but the movie opened the door for the girl and she goes in like that's something i always i probably did in the beginning when i first started dating my wife and you know it's something i wish i did more but like

that's such a fucking sweet move to pull that move the the pull the chair out do the door thing those are two like old school uh chivalrous moves that i feel like are definitely lost today that uh again he wouldn't have done if his car wasn't just fucking you know it's if it was a typical pull open door he wouldn't have done he just wanted to show off he's flexing he goes and starts to summon these beasts the first one he summons did you guys get the sense that that was the hydra beast from episode one the tentacles i was thinking that too yeah i don't know if it was or wasn't because they didn't really i felt like if it was they would have maybe acknowledged it more but i just got the same vibe from that. The tentacles come up and he realizes like that's too much.

So he summons like a little garden gnome demon. And he starts summoning these little things little by little. The bug freaked me out. He said he didn't fuck with bugs. I don't fuck with bugs. So I didn't like that scene at all. He takes the cape off of it, whatever. I thought it was so cool the way he absorbed them.

With the eyes and the mouth. That was talk about horror movie shit. That's like, oh my God. god and the way no heroes do that he would quickly like have wings for a second and then become strange and get like yeah snout for a second and then become human and like good foreshadowing for what he's gonna look like later in the episode which thank fucking god sienna didn't watch that with you clem that was one of the most terrifying things i've ever seen that should that should be like rated r fucking rated r nc-17 yeah i also love the parallels in this of like in dr strange the movie he's a dick who eventually becomes a great guy and in this he's kind of a great guy like in the

beginning with rachel mcadams he doesn't seem like a dick and then he becomes this evil demon literally can we also just uh agree that the gnome he absorbs is david the gnome from nickelodeon back in the day i don't know if i'm dating myself but it's like that would just be an absurd thing that he absorbs his fucking being even though he's evil well he maybe absorbed mephisto in there too can we talk about that oh jesus thousand percent mephisto confirmed so if i hear mephisto's fucking name one more time without seeing the son of a bitch, I'm going to kill you guys. I don't know. I kind of look like Mephisto.

You had red. I had the yellow eyes. Looked like a devil. Can we also put, let's throw this on the list of whatever all the fucking shit Vision used to drop all the knowledge. That line, love can break more than your heart. It can shatter your mind. Anybody who's ever fallen in and out of love or just like a crush can fucking shatter your mind. I've had fucking crushes that have shattered my mind. Rachel mcadams yeah yeah rachel mcadams i

mean i could just god damn man that was a fucking that was a hell of a line i'm telling you that show that episode's a fucking masterpiece it really is it goes deep dude deep deep deep yeah it's like obviously time travel is not possible but it's more about like when you are uh you know when you are dumped and you're living in the past and trying to you know i wish it was this way but it can't ever be that way again and you have to move on or you know maybe not the universe but your universe will like come closing in it's it's very very good and the way that they add to it literally yeah that like this is the most powerful sorcerer in the universe, and he's about to destroy the universe.

Like the fact that they add that weight onto it was awesome. So he gets more power hungry. He finally goes back to the regular world where like Wong was like, hey, don't do anything stupid. He walks outside and he's like, fuck, what was in that whiskey last night? Because everyone looks like they're almost like disintegrating into like lava lamps, like black lava lava lamps there's this like oil stuff coming off of them papa shango think papa shango exactly as papa shango spells over everyone he's like holy

fuck what was in the three chi i took last night um and the ancient one comes down and she lets him know that when he eventually went off, she split him into two parts. So there's an evil Doctor Strange and there's a normal Doctor Strange. He's like, I have a fucking evil twin. This is crazy. So she wanted to split the timelines to make sure the world wouldn't collapse. But it's still sort of collapsing. She's like, you've got to go stop him.

He goes to confront the evil Doctor Strange. And the evil Doctor Strange looks almost like last week when we saw or was it last? Yeah, it was last week when we saw Michael Douglas with like the blacked out eyes. And he was like a little like fucked up looking. And he tells him, like, we can bring her back. If we combine our powers together, we can go back to the site of the accident. We can bring her back. He's like, we definitely can't do that, bro. Reminded me of in a weird way.

I don't know why this is my head. Jafar versus the genie in aladdin like when when evil strange had some jafar vibes with the cape like the long uh collar yeah in the pointy chin the dark eyes and then he became like this monster like when jafar's the red genie you wrote that down too i wrote that in my notes and kev you used to always talk about jafar the old man that was always like a staple for the KFC blogs back in the day. And my exact role has got big time Jafar vibes at the end of Aladdin when he's turning into the G. Same exact fucking thing, man.

That is just tremendous. I love that. That's like Dave and Dan picking all the same things on the Showtime paper too. We got chemistry as well right here. So they eventually get into this fight a crazy fight awesome animation awesome cgi all over this just crazy stuff the capes fight with each other like a that was cool little thing oh the cape getting ripped broke me too i love the cape he's one of my favorite like characters and he's like uh magic carpet yeah exactly wow look at that yeah the cape getting ripped was brutal and eventually evil

strange fucking absorbs dr strange like straight up absorbs him in the eyes of that mouth oh my god and he brings back christine but not in the way he thought he was going to bring her back because he becomes this fucking terrifying monster demon the grossest thing you could imagine i don't even know what you could compare him to he's got wings he's got this gross gray face he's still got his voice but it's sort of demented now and he's like christine christine she's like oh my god strange she's terrified of him she almost backs up off a cliff and then this is where he realizes i think i fucked up he kind of goes back to the evil, strange look. And he asked the Watcher for help. He sees the Watcher in the sky.

And he kind of like, they alluded to this earlier when the Watcher did a little narration. And he was like, who's that? What was that? But he's like, can you help me? I regret this. Like, I didn't mean to do this. And the Watcher tells him, I'm just the Watcher. I'm sorry.

I can't interfere in any of this stuff. Kind of fades back into Bolivian. And the universe is destroyed. Christine dies again, and that's it. He says sometimes the entire universe can collapse on one decision or whatever. That's what I don't get, though, is if there are these absolute points. Like she said, it's an absolute point because if she doesn't die, you don't go on to become the Sorcerer Supreme and stop Dormammu.

Obviously, that's just in this universe, right? Because like – Oh, okay. It has to be because in – I don't know where the switch might have happened for them. I wish they would have made a more clear – because I thought the same thing. It confused me in the beginning they need like a more clear nexus point almost like in the beginning where um what was the first one where it was like oh is that hayley atwell and uh it was like what if she decided not to go back to the booth peggy carter and that was what sparked you know the branched reality we didn't really get that for this one we kind of started in a branched reality i think yeah i get it but just more to my point

being like if if this had to happen to save the universe over here, then why are we just able to let the universe collapse over over in this world? You know what I mean? Good question. That was a bit confusing. It's like if there if absolute points exist to preserve the universe, then how come the Watcher and company can just let this other shit happen? Unless it was like he's so powerful that he almost became what he thought was a God and no one could stop him. But it just seemed like if absolute points exist for a reason, then why wasn't there an absolute point to stop this one from happening? Or was, you know, if this is just one universe that goes away and there's a million others,

then it's no big deal. But if it was like, this was the existence of the world and they and it just happened that i don't quite get but also whatever it's just a fucking what if episode i actually talked to the watcher about this and you know what he said he goes motherfucker i got that disney money i'm gonna let the whole universe go they said they needed to show some what ifs and i said just destroy this universe he's got a blank check from mickey mouse and he's fucking just like let it just go yeah because because the watcher has to be in some other universe right or i don't know is he in like yeah he's got to be overseeing you know even the even the destroyed universes or something by the way i feel like the watcher's a bit sus i know we haven't been doing

but like he might come in later in in the series right like i actually interfere stunned if he doesn't interfere at some point right or that could be a what if it'd be kind of a cool like it'd be kind of a cool oh shit moment if he interfered in like a bad way if he revealed himself to be like almost a uh a kang type yeah yeah sure why not yeah oh because i mean yeah i'm sure like like the what if comics i'm sure there's like galactic shit and kang stuff like where does the watcher rank like is he like a ego or uh whatever or uh that's a question i would love to learn because he says you know you're not a god and i'm not either so it's like all right you're not like a god you're not like in control of everything

but you seem to be on some extra level so are you a thanos are you okay are you uh ego like where where's your power ranking i hope i hope that's like the last episode of the season as we get some watcher who's the voice of that by the way i know jeffrey wright from west world yes i knew he's been in uh hunger games he's going to be commissioner gordon and the new batman i knew it was a black guy and i knew that voice and i just couldn't place it but yeah by the way speaking of the new batman there were rumors this week that the first test screening happened and an audience was showed a three-hour cut of the movie and they said it bordered on thriller horror paul downer was fucking terrifying as the riddler and that uh pattinson was tremendous as batman so that's the

first rumors to come out about that oh my god chills on my arms thinking about it i cannot wait to see battinson i'm all in on it all in i feel like that's got a chance to be like like dethroning christian bale i feel like that's got like like the interesting thing about those movies and and like dark knight's my favorite movie dark knight empire strikes back there's nothing better for me people still shit on christian bale and call the dark knight like one of the best movies of all time like the people that love the dark knight don't necessarily love everything about christian bale's batman so i kind of agree with you yeah but just in general even i feel like if you do it dark and you do it well and uh it the fact that

they said bordering on horror makes me so excited because we've never seen a batman like that we've seen a lot of campy batman with george clooney and val kilmer the closest we got to that being probably the dark knight trilogy with heat ledger and some serial killer vibes but like the something in the way Nirvana trailer like the whole vibe of that the red lights the fact that Batman's bat symbol might be made out of the gun that killed his parents it's pretty fucking gnarly that's heavy I thought Scarecrow was horror-esque where you you know. Definitely. In Batman Begins, yeah, when you see Batman, what he sees, what Scarecrow sees Batman as, and he's got, like, black foam coming out of his mouth and shit. Actually, when you said earlier, I don't even know how he would describe bad Doctor Strange.

Like, it kind of looked like that. Yeah. It looked like what Scarecrow sees, that dark Batman. That's a really good point. Imagine poor Christine being like like well no and he's coming back from life like that's like waking up from a coma and that's the first thing you see that guy's like let's go get creme brulee just get the fuck out of here you're a monster oh man i wanted creme brulee so bad by the end of the day and i'm like that's like the one thing there's no way i'm just

going out at 10 o'clock at night and be able to go get it here what the fuck is that i've heard that before when they said it i've've never had that. I don't know what that is. It's like they it's like a sugary topping that they like. Oh, the torch. So it's like it's like hard. And then on the bottom, it's like a little bit of cream. Yes. Yes. It's like a custard

almost. Yeah. I'm going to have to try that. I want to try. We might have to have a my mom's basement night where we go out and we all have crème brûlée. Yeah, I feel like like it's good hopefully we don't get into a car accident knock on yeah i can't go in a car after you do that that's a great but do you think christine thought like she died and was like i'm in hell now because the fucking devil was like maybe coddling me yeah she started thinking about everything she did wrong and that was my in hell that was i think the biggest thing about this what

if is it is strange is such an important marvel character and he has so much time he's the fucking sorcerer supreme is like and i wanted to ask you by the way sorcerer supreme is the best title so great so awesome one of the best nicknames the mcu has bob uh we're gonna go old school say 90s 2000s w or WWF, WCW, whatever. What would you say strange flipping to becoming a bad guy would be equal to in terms of an old school wrestler like that? Because that's a seismic shift. And I think that's why the entire universe is fucked. It would almost feel like, I guess, I don't know if Hogan is the answer.

I think Hogan might be the answer because there was there's like a there is an element of like cockiness yeah he started off bad though yeah that's that's a good point it's like um there is like yeah because he's not dr strange is not like a pure white character we're like hogan is like the pure white soul your vitamins you know whatever the fuck it is i get what about like when the rock went i was gonna say it's almost like yeah if if the rock had been like super baby face for a long time and then had like a shocking heel turn which i'm not sure he did but it would almost be equivalent to that because it wouldn't be stone cold yeah it could be a hit man i feel like i mean the rock being like the swaggy cocky guy like talking about pie and even when he's like the leader of the nation and then

going corporate i like to me strange does have those yes like a bad even a little macho man macho man got corrupted by sherry you know know? That's true. Like once Macho Man lost Elizabeth, everything went south for him. Yeah. That's a good fucking point, Bob. That's a good fucking point. By the way, kind of an interesting thing. When I went to the WWE warehouse,

I asked the archivist, what's the number one Holy Grail item that you guys don't have that you're like, how do we not have that in the warehouse? We need it. And he said, it's the Macho King crown. They have no idea where it is nobody knows where it is he found uh blueprints of it from the jeweler that made the one and only million dollar championship and he brought it to like that

jeweler still in connecticut and he was like do you guys did you guys make this and they were like oh yeah we made it we have no idea where it is where it is now but kind of crazy like an interesting thing for i feel like old school wrestling fans to know like that's the holy grail we got to go on like an indiana jones quest and find that shit that's what we said we were like in a museum yeah we were like can we like make a documentary about trying to find this let's let's go steal the macho king crown back and they said they find like rick flair robes in people's fucking basements all the time because someone stole it from the back of an arena back in the day gave it to their cousin gave it to their whoever and they can't give it in because it says rick flair on the back so it's clearly stolen and like he said that's a normal thing

for them to find kind of crazy that crown is in a fucking abandoned motel in pensacola florida right now we can go we just have to find which one i can tell you exactly where it is the macho man he was living some crazy days right around those times i imagine too so we can go like we just have to find which one i can tell you exactly where it is the macho man he was living some crazy days right around those times i imagine too so we can find it we just have to figure out which one of them um that's a great question though bob good fucking question that's that's our guide kev or jay jerno right there there were some boxes in there too that they'd like they were clearly like nailed shut and they were the wooden ones and that was like indiana jones i was like is that the fucking ark of the covenant back there sir what is that yeah um one of the coolest things

that wasn't in the video by the way because it was like we couldn't get a good shot of it was they had the king of the ring chair that austin cut the austin 316 promo on wow like holy fuck that belongs in a museum yeah oh my god these are legit relics man they are those are like you know dinosaur bones to, those are like, you know, dinosaur bones to me. Those are like the most important. They said one day, one day there will be a museum. It's going to be a physical hall of fame and museum. So it'll be like, very cool. I assume in Connecticut or Florida,

I would assume those are the two places to do it in, but we have a couple of what ifs, not a ton. I had one that I thought of myself and I just wanted to throw it out to you guys. I apologize if it causes you any misery whatsoever. Oh, God damn it. What if the Mets won the World Series in 2015? I knew you were going to say that. Not necessarily 15, but I knew the Mets was coming.

What if? I'd be like, Frank the Tank. Frank the Tank doesn't happen he's like the frustration from the new jersey transit it doesn't boil over to become a viral video because he still has like his pain has been eased by no no no no no because we know frank he would still be doing it but we would all just be like shut the fuck up man we just won the world series like what because he did that the year when did he do that like much more after that like a couple years after 2015 2017 yeah so by that point

we'd still be riding high maybe we make another appearance and we'd just be like it's no big deal dude right like we got a ring like relax then he just you know peters off but god that you know what is so crazy and you can you know checkamps. I mean, I absolutely thought they were winning the World Series. The minute that the Royals clinched, I was like, the Mets are going to beat this team. The Mets are just better than the Royals. And I know that you can't say that they were because they lost in five games, but they fucking were.

And they played better than them 90% of the series. And it was just not when it counted the most. And it's just like i had never been it took me so long to finally be confident in the mets like even that playoff run i was like we're gonna lose to the dodgers we're gonna lose to the cubs and then we finally like i i they finally earned my trust and my confidence. And I was like, they're going to win. And then they crushed me, but man, I would be, I'd be a happy. I know that I actually trolled KFC back in the day as, as a stoolie. When, when, when the Mets won, I filled it. I filled up my entire contacts list with Kansas city Royals.

And I just, you know, I think I remember that. I feel like I remember contacts like that. I mean, God,. I think I remember that. I feel like I remember contacts like that. I mean, God. As a stoolie, some of the best content I've ever, like, when I was following Barstool just as a fan, that whole trip with you and Dan going game to game, Dave with the multiple shirts.

Was that the big cat, big house picture? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, so much funny shit came out of that that the actual videos from the games of like whatever team was up they've taken the shirt off so so good man the wriggly bill i mean the fact that that swept that was crazy seeing uh the knockoff barstool shirts in the window which is now funny being they sell knockoff barstool shirts outside of the barstool office it's like is there a physical store we could come to and buy barstool shirts yeah it's actually on the corner of uh fucking my fucking my fucking danny dime shirt is being

sold bootleg right around our own goddamn office which is like again if they sell a bootleg and of your shirt in new york city that's the sign you made it check out trick that's a trick fucking mask put that on a resume new york city's bootleg and my shit. And the fact we have gift proof of Kevin was actually happy and able to troll someone else at Barstool because his team was doing good. Cause you would, you know, well that's why when we got Cohen, I was like, watch out, man. Because if you guys remember, everybody was like appalled with winter KFC.

Cause I was like, fuck everybody. I've been waiting for this. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. Fuck you. We're winning. winner kfc because i was like fuck everybody oh yeah i've been waiting for this fuck you fuck you fuck you you're cool fuck you we're winning and i i mean i would be we probably would have sold a zillion t-shirts i probably would have been i don't know i mean it's an impossible question would have sold a zillion t-shirts i would i you would have got so many emails from me trying to pitch t-shirt designs i guarantee it i was trying pitch. I had why not us shirts that year. I was trying to get, Oh, that's great. I had so many. Wait, I would have like, when did you start?

Start sending shirts or start? No, no, no. When you start Barstool. Start Barstool. Um, it was October of 2016. Okay. So it wasn't much because I would have, if you asked me was Bob Fox at Barstool when that happened, I would have said a hundred percent. Yes. Really? I can't believe you were still just a fan at that point i definitely thought you were there by now by then but i mean yeah because it's it just feels weird it's like i guess that's six you know years ago it's a long time now but it's fucked up i'm about to come up on half a decade at barstool and i feel like that's crazy because i still feel like the new

kids sometimes no man you're og you're OG. You're a vet, baby. That's very strange to me. Me and Bob Fox were two of the three horses in the rundown commercial. Yeah, it was me, Clem, and Glennie. And for whatever reason, I was Big Cat's horse. I was just going to say, what a great trivia question. Who rode who? Comedy Central cowboy promo. Oh, oh man that's fucking hilarious we were there i was there

all day with glennie jumping through the table with the cheese balls yeah that's right yeah what that was literally just like we have a slow-mo camera what should we do and dave was like glennie should jump through a table we were legit like kids in the backyard with the big camcorder making home moves. What do you think would happen? Like sometimes people tell me, you know, it's good that your team's lost all the time because that became, you know, your persona and your shtick and that was your angle. And I'm always like, yeah, people will say you want them to lose so that you can do this. Like, I promise you, I don't, but I don't know what would happen. Like if I thought we were going to get a taste of it this year thought I'm hoping over the next couple years we get it with Cohen where it's just like yeah man I'm I'm living good because I've got the right

owner but you know some people already as I've been positive about the Mets are like fuck this I don't like it I want I want you hating on the team again well Dave yeah Dave is like yeah and I'm like I I've said it over and over again we said on the podcast when we get new owners we're not going to be the annoying complaining fans and I'm you know I believe it so I'm changed and people don't like it I'm like well I mean what more proof do you need that it's not a shtick or something I do for fun uh if when I've already living it and they haven't even won yet but i don't know it's i'd love to find out though like maybe i'll be like maybe maybe the mets winning is my christine and what i gotta do like i would if you your absolute point so this is what i was saying

earlier like if you gave me some time travel fucking mechanism i'm using it bro if you tell me like no no no the world will collapse maybe i'm like well then that maybe is enough for me to go back and have fucking uh familiar not quick pitch in the bottom of the ninth of the game one i'm changing all sorts of shit and we'll roll the dice i'm sorry rachel mcadams and time travel she's in about time and i mean our guy dom Dom Hall Gleeson, goes back in time many times. Over and over again for her. Yeah, I mean, to me, it would take an absolute guarantee if you told me, like, all right, you can go back and save this, but, like, Bob Fox and his family is going to die, guaranteed.

And then maybe I would be like, okay, no. I'd be like, sorry, Bob. See you later, bro. Listen, this episode did make me worry a little bit about Clem that he's going to start summoning the dark magic to get Theo. I see the tweets every night. Bring me Theo. Bring me Theo.

I'm like, oh, no, this guy's going to go down the dark path trying to get the dark hold for it. Hey, you know what? If the Mets fucking are raising the World Series trophy, but everyone has like black oil rising from their nervous over, that still fucking counts. Give me a ring. I want a ring. the world series trophy but everyone has like black oil rising from the universe over that still fucking counts give me a right okay would you sacrifice your leg your busted calf they tell you we got to amputate from the knee down but we get a world series

it's like i i'm it's hard if i didn't have kids yes but like i can't bring you a leg we could bring you like my tuesday i'll get you a c3po one too it'll be it'll look yes okay fine c3po leg i'm in because honestly there's a chance like i'm not i'm not gonna get this leg checked out because it's just not my like personality i don't want to go to the doctor so there's a chance i'm gonna have to get it amputated because of that so you guys now you guys owe me a c3po like you're on the hook we'll give you blade runner. Like that guy. Those things.

That'd be cool, kind of. I'm like, yo, I'm like, listen, my limbs kind of suck as is. Give me some fake ones. Or you could be like, what's the movie? It's the Grindhouse movie with the girl with the fucking. Machine gun leg. Oh, with the machine gun leg? Yeah, yeah. But you could do like a, you know, a Nerf gun or something.

It could be an ad deal. I think you're selling me, Bob. I said I'd definitely take Tommy John surgery for the Mets. Like going through that and you're like, you're all fucked up. And I take Patrick Ewing's knees for the Knicks championship. Like I'll take whatever it is. I would have taken a lot for a McGregor beating Khabib, man. A lot.

A lot. What if Tommy Smokes was a bad luck charm and not a good luck charm oh man i mean he would still be called maybe alarmingly stupid by dave right that's the thing that pulled him out of it wasn't it that's absolutely it and like you know would he ever have uh then you know then he got the ability to showcase all the reasons why he is you know a funny guy and a good now they call him tommy smokes because he's reeling in the smokes. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like if, if Tommy is a bad luck charm and Dave's like, get the fuck away from me.

You know, he's not, he's not banging six foot two volleyball girls at a DJ's during the summer. And then does it spiral is does the, does the, does the pussy posse never come together? Does the Fordham pussy patrol ever never come together does the Fordham Pussy Patrol ever materialize and is there does Tommy just go like is he doing play-by-play for like the Staten Island Yankees single-way ball and he never becomes the smoke monster uh because that's one of the more you know when I do Barstool what-ifs it's like what if Doug's just had didn't look like that video

game character what if Tank just caught the train? What if Tommy wasn't a good luck charm? Those are three of the more absurd. How'd you get here stories? Tommy's just like, yeah, man, my boss loved to like rub me during college football games, basketball games. So I lived with him for two weeks. Weird.

You know, what's funny about that, too, ismmy now is like so ingrained in barstool that i feel like new fans would be so stunned to know that like the alarmingly stupid intern character you know what i mean like when you would be called to on the rundown and it would just be like oh this guy knows nothing we don't even like associate with him it's like so like weird he prides himself on being like he always wins lowering the bar and the survivor you know it's all the gossip in the office he's the gossip king yeah i can outwit everybody on the gossip king and it's like well he started being like this moron who i mean and and it was it was it was earned it was like he had a few like unlucky yeah yeah like it was like we asked him like uh we were asking what's a hematoma

when that yeah dude had and he was googling seinfeld or something i was like what are you doing bro you know what's funny about you mentioned the staten island yankees just re-watched uh not too too long ago a couple weeks ago king of staten island it was on tv and i saw it caught like a little bit of it and there's the scene in it where bill burr tells pete davidson oh yeah i got season tickets to the yanks and he's like oh really that's awesome he's like yeah you want to come to the game staten island and he was like and i swear to god my friend dad growing up this guy had great guy did the exact same thing he had season tickets to the staten island yanks he would tell everyone oh yeah they try harder in the minors like oh i've heard that yeah

product is pure absolutely yeah yeah staten island that those are the yanks what do you think staten island yankees season tickets probably like 600 bucks probably yeah i mean you could probably show up to a staten island yankee game get like front door tickets for 15 bucks which absolutely by the way if people don't do that i recommend it go to minor league baseball games they are light so much so cheap that that single a level they play uh and they play 77 games and 79 nights it's oh my god there's like uh there's like one one night off for the all-star game holy shit yeah it's crazy it's like one of the craziest schedules it's like not a fun life you're on the bus and you're always there in life yeah and if there's double

headers because it rained out it's like they go man. And sometimes you see wacky stuff. Like I remember going and seeing the Staten Island Yankees and watching an ambidextrous pitcher who would like switch, you know, he has a weird glove. And, and like, that's the stuff that you don't know if you're going to go see in the majors, maybe once in a blue moon, you will, but that's the kind of stuff that just happens in the minors. Minor league ball was the last place. I don't even think they're allowed to do it anymore.

It was the last place you might catch like a 10 cent beer night sort of thing yeah and the people are like blacked out and puking and fighting i don't know if they're allowed to do it anymore but that was you know my major league guys stopped a long time ago and then the last bastion of ridiculous drink prices was minor leagues i don't think they do it anymore but well ready for this one here? I just looked it up. Staten Island Yankee, full season plan, $418 for 38 games. And you could add an all-you-can-eat option for an additional $532 per seat. I thought it was an extra $120 per seat.

So it was going to be an extra. So you're basically paying more for the food than the product. That makes sense sense it's like you know what you're going to get with dogs and beers and shit you don't know what you're going to get with these fucking kids playing ball it's a good 400 bucks if i was if i had my kids and i lived on staten island yeah i would for sure pay 400 bucks and then just go whenever you know you don't have to go to all 38 games just go to you know whenever you want yeah fuck definitely that's worth it or another say you have season tickets to the yankees that's all you got to do that's worth it in itself but you're not like you can't fail a lot of technical tests right we have back to back to

marvel let's go this one's actually not a marvel what if it made me laugh uh it's actually the the only like fan what if that i have written down i could go back to twitter and find some more this one's from michael j fatsats, longtime listener. Appreciate you, Michael. He says, what if Robbie's older siblings had been into eighties and nineties hip hop instead of rock? And I think I basically just become KFC.

I was going to say, that's my life. You would be just like me. I'm pretty sure I become KFC. Like, yeah, man, through the same interest,

the, the nerdy stuff, the hip hop interest. I think that's just us hey it's your boy boy kate robbie fox here yeah i mean that's the the whole reason there's not as much of an age gap but the whole reason uh i liked all the music i liked all the sports that i liked everything was because of brendan so like i mean that some of the music we were listening to man i was like six years old listening to death row records like not stuff i should have been doing and i was six listening

to slipknot you know that those were the two branched realities of our path there was a song on montel jordan's album the album that had this is how we do it on there and uh there was a line where this this guy just said who's pimping who and shit like that and i just ran around as like a seven-year-old be like who's pimping who and shit like that i had no idea what it meant like what uh what am i what were my parents doing god the innocence of legitimately not knowing what words meant like i have told the story before, but I, DX once put out a shirt that said Vince loves and it had a picture of a rooster on it. And I had no idea what cock meant,

but I thought it just meant like you're a chicken. I thought it meant like, Oh, you're a chicken. You're a whip. So I walked up to my mom is like a six, seven year old and straight up said, like, can I get the new DX shirt? She knew that it said, you know, suck it and stuff. So she would never let me get suck it shirt she said what does it say and i said i swear it doesn't say anything bad just says vince loves cock and she was like what i did not get that shirt wasn't allowed to get it um i have one more what if i wanted to read this one it's from our guy nathan hurst who's done all the my mom's basement art our logo i'm glad he has been with us all this

time i wanted him to be a part of the 200th episode here he said what if james cameron was who's done all the My Mom's Basement art, our logo. I'm glad he has been with us all this time. I wanted him to be a part of the 200th episode here. He said, what if James Cameron was in charge of the Marvel Universe? This is a great one because I think I have an answer. I think we have one Avengers movie, and I think Avengers 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are all written and slated to come out in 2028. I like that.

I don't think we have 23 movies. I think we have like two movies and we're like, yeah, they were pretty good, but like, does anyone care anymore? You know what I think is the big difference? How old is Kevin Feige? Probably late 40s, early 50s. Does that sound right?

So he's still like young on the younger side uh 48 right yeah to be in control of versus what's james cameron like james cameron's probably in the 60s right he is 67 so i kind of said this in my one minute man about the the spider-man trailer like what marvel does so good now and i think it's because they have people close much closer to if not totally in our our generation like waldron they just like do they give the fans what they want they do yeah like when they hear a what if type of storyline or there's an easter egg or there's a rumor, or there's something from the comics that people do want that's possible. They just do it.

And I feel like James Cameron and a lot of the old movie makers would be like, we have to do like my vision and what I think. I think that's very accurate. Just give the masses what they want. And part of what's so cool about it, it's like, I remember you being like, I think we're going to see Captain America wield the hammer. Yes. And they just gave it to you.

It was the ultimate payoff. And it felt so much better that like, it was a thing people were like, I think it could happen. They were like whispers. And then when it pays off, it was like, oh, my God, it was the most biblical moment i ever experienced in a movie theater and like and like cameron would have been like well no we can't do that because whatever yeah and the norse mythology uh right actually yeah everyone's talking like i think we're gonna see all the spider-men in one movie and like i'm pretty sure they're gonna do we all want them to point at each other at some point and be like hey you know like and even that like waldron those guys mixing up that we'd be like yeah let's just throw the meme in there and by the way speaking

of waldron have to shout out waldron have to shout out his current show heels which is on stars this wrestling show there's a barstool reference in episode three which i didn't expect because i saw the screeners but i think the cgi wasn't done on the screeners that i saw and there's a moment in the show where there's like a scandalous video that would be on like tmz like this guy exposes himself on an airplane a wrestler this old school wrestler wild bill and the fucking barstool logo is on the video in episode four look out for someone walking up to build a wild bill and saying hey i saw your video on barstool last night so waldron throwing in little barstool nods he's just the fucking man that's what i mean i think all those guys are cool young enough uh in tune enough i think james cameron's always kind

of been a stuffy asshole about that stuff so i feel like the the avengers the the that whole world would be worse off although it would probably be the same if not a better spectacle you know i feel like you think you think he would cast like Schwarzenegger as, as Iron Man or something? Yeah. All of that would have just been off and old school. Sigourney Weaver would definitely be in it. Sigourney Weaver would probably be Nick Fury. Nikita Fury.

All right. That's it for a, what if this week, Kevin, thank you for joining us. I love having you here for the what ifs breaking this stuff down with you, especially the barstool, what ifs I feel like you're, you're made for that stuff. So I appreciate all the listeners who have been here 200 episodes. That's wild. Not episode 200, but 200 episodes, big distinction. We're we're sticking to the George Lucas, uh, mythology. And I hope that 20 years from now, people go back and they say,

should you listen to my mom's basement in chronological order or release order? And people were like, what does that even mean, bro? Release order was chronological order. All right. I will talk to everybody next week for another. What if recap and look out for some interviews coming midweek.