My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 154 - ‘WHAT IF…?’ EPISODE 7 RECAP/SHANG-CHI REVIEW WITH CLEM (AND DALLAS LIU)

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

Clem joins Robbie to break down the latest episode of Marvel’s ‘What If…?’ as well as review ‘Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings’, and then Dallas Liu (who is actually in the movie) joins for an interview afterwards! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Bearbottom Clothing: Use code BASEMENT at BarebottomClothing.com for FREE SHIPPING HelloFresh: Use code 14robbie at HelloFresh.com/14robbie for 14 FREE MEALS! Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3C. It's Robbie and Clem. We are back just a duo this week. Kevin will be back next week um i assume maybe the week after i don't know he'll be back at some point i i assure you kevin will be back in the basement clem it has been another week of what ifs from marvel another week of crazy nerd news coming out

left right center we got star wars visions which dropped i haven't watched it yet i know ken jack did he did a good write-up on it, and he sent me like, here are the four episodes that you, a non-anime fan, will be interested in. So I appreciate that. Thank you, Ken Jack. And how have you been? Doing good, doing good. Shout out, Ken Jack. If anyone who's a Star Wars fan, anime fan, a little bit of both or neither, check it out on Barstool on the blog. And I mean, right in his wheelhouse, like that was just a fucking lob. That's the Dwayne Wade to LeBron James thing right there. So check that out.

Doing good busy week. Like you said, what if this happens to me? Very rarely is where I am a day behind mentally. So for this week and only this week so far, today's Thursday recording. i think it's wednesday yesterday on wednesday i thought it was tuesday that's the that's awesome when that happens because then you're just that much closer to the weekend almost always it's like i it's a monday

but i think it's tuesday and then like you realize you just get crushed there's nothing worse than when it's a thursday you think it's a friday because then you're like oh i thought i was like hours away from the weekend so i I'm feeling good right now. I'm kind of living one. I'm living in the future right now. So everything is all right. We're going to talk some what ifs. I didn't realize.

I was like, all right, we're going to record today. I was like, wait, I still haven't watched the episode because yesterday I thought it was Tuesday all day. So again, shout out to the people on Twitter. And granted, like what ifs, you're not really spoiling much. It's a one-off episode of a series that doesn't have long-term ramifications. Nonetheless, though, I'm not getting anything spoiled in my mentions. I'm not getting anything spoiled even on the timeline.

So very happy with the way the Internet has kind of worked. This is going to be a problem, though. I think down the road, once we get another big Disney Plus series, they keep these Wednesday releases. Those spoilers are going to start flying sooner or later when there's a big another baby Yoda moment you know to borrow from the Star Wars world that comes into the MCU that's going to be our ultimate test

so we haven't gone over this really on the pod I still think like 48 hours I think Friday we should be allowed to start talking about what happened on Wednesday because like Monday at that point even blogging it it feels kind of outdated when you have the thing right around the corner. You have another episode coming in 48 hours.

And I understand people say, I can't watch it. I can't do this, that, the next thing. It's on your phone at this point. Like, it's 30 minutes. It's on your phone. Watch it on your bathroom breaks at work. Take three 10-minute bathroom breaks. Say you got a stomachache and go watch it if you care.

That much where 48 hours later, you're like you're like i can't believe you spoiled it i really think they have made it as accessible and easy as possible to watch and what if isn't going to be the only thing we're talking about this week because clem you finally saw shang chi so we're going to break that down as well we'll start with what if and then get into shang chi i think that should be the main event this week because it is you know a marvel movie but just spoiler free thoughts you liked it correct you text me confirmed good right confirmed good confirmed like it confirmed suitable for a seven year old daughter which that's what i was gonna ask you i was gonna say how did how did sienna handle it yep she loved it um she and she actually said at the end, she goes, I think I'm the only person in my class who's seen this movie, which both made me the cool dad.

And then at least in her mind, made her the cool kid for a little bit. She is a cool kid. Yeah, that's cool. She's the one seeing the Marvel movies. Not even a little bit scary. She told me, even though I think there were a few times she kind of snuggled up on me. I like to think that's just because, you know, I'm her dad and she loves me. So the only thing I was worried about is the end, the little creatures that come out of that door thing.

That's the only thing that I was like, geez, that could be the only thing that gets her. But did I was I right on my prediction that the new creature, Morris, from this would be one of your favorites? My notes from it, which I wrote in an empty movie theater again, just Morris with about 10 exclamation points. And I was like, Bob absolutely crushed it with that one. And I think if you do the scary parts of the movie at the end of the movie, after they've been warmed up, like that was the thing about the black widow thing too, it was like,

Oh shit, it's terrifying, way too real. And it was like in the first 10 minutes of the opening credits. Yeah. By that point you're dialed up, you know, that there are superheroes that can take care of these evil beasts.

And honestly, I think I was more scared of them than she was because she didn't know what that life was being sucked out of their body. Yeah, by that point, you're dialed up. You know that there are superheroes that can take care of these evil beasts. And honestly, I think I was more scared of them than she was because she didn't know what that life was being sucked out of their body. The soul's being snatched. And I was like, what the fuck is that? Like, that's out of a nightmare right there. So thumbs up all around. And I said we'll do a spoiler-free review of – all right, we'll save Shang-Chiang chi talk for the end right so we'll wait on that but we're gonna do uh we'll do a little recap review and our final thoughts on the entire thing but uh thumbs up all around anyone who hasn't seen it very good different

like obviously much different than your typical marvel superhero movie i didn't know how i was gonna feel going in like bob said and they it's. It's different, but they just nail it. They can go with these different kind of genres. They always make it work. I'm 100% confident that Doctor Strange 2, being a horror movie, is still going to be a very good horror movie. This is like a kung fu kind of movie. You get that little Jason Bourne involved and all that kind of stuff,

and they fucking nailed it. Thumbs up all around. Old, young, Bob right in the middle. Everyone's happy right now. Yeah, I'm excited to talk about that because as I mentioned right before we started recording, I saw it at a screener like a few weeks before the movie even came out. So it's been a month that I've seen it and I haven't been able to talk about it with Clem. So I've been like itching at it.

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You'll receive 5% off your complete order. Now let's get back into the show. It was, what was the actual official title of this week? Do you have it in front of you? It was like, what if Thor was an only child, maybe? Yeah, I think that's what it was. I think it was what if Thor was an only child. So this week is Odin returning

Loki to his original parents, the Frost Giants, or his original home in the Frost Giants. He actually goes back to his Frost Giant form and we get to see him like that, which has been a thing online for so long. Like why wouldn't Loki turn back into his Frost Giant form if this happened or whatever? So seeing Loki as the frost giant was cool this week and it winds up being i don't know a kind of a bad turn of events for thor i mean good in the end because like it is a happy story happy go lucky he winds up with jane but he's kind of the god of mischief himself he just causes a bunch of chaos he's like an entitled prince the voice acting this week superb everyone we got more howard the duck we got more darcy we got more

like thor chris evans literally natalie portman in it this week i'll say this pre taika wetidi thor just doesn't do it for me i don't know what it is this is the most taika you could make that thor with the party boy atmosphere and you involved howard the duck in the wedding i didn't love this what if i was kind of bored yeah i think that's a good way to put it with the pre-taika thor um and thor one and two they've been you know criticized especially thor two but both of them have been criticized up and down by marvel fans and even like looking back you're still like it doesn't really do much Thor pre Taika Thor it's Rocky Maivia right it's a little too pure of heart and he has I mean the eyebrows

don't do him any favors and all that kind of stuff but it's just he needs a little bit a little bit of dirt in him you know what I mean he has a little bit of swagger and all that kind of stuff and then obviously post-endgame Thor will be very interesting because i think that character is going to take a turn from there as well uh but it you're right it just doesn't do it and i'm very interested to see because now we get portman back in the mix and seeing her and darcy and all that kind of stuff uh it's like all right we get a second shot a second chance at redemption you don't get that very often with big time blockbuster movie franchises and we kind of got to hear a little taste of it and what if i can't wait to see thor love and thunder by the way because all of the

like word coming out of that production is just that it's like the wackiest marvel movie tyka is like i can't believe they let me make this it's crazy so it's like that's gonna be great um and when he goes down to nevada at this point which I actually this was clever I thought instead of going down to that little base he drops down into Vegas and he just starts causing chaos in Vegas we get some guardians we get there's a ton of cameos in this one which is something that I did appreciate it reminded me a little bit of the um what if Star-Lord was or what if T'Challa was Star-Lord and that was i think as of right now i would put that second only to the doctor strange episode i think that was my that my second favorite i think yeah i

think i'm reversed one and two but the you know star lord's one but it's right there i think those are have been the cream of the crop so far where i think this one we could probably throw in the bottom tier with uh what was the one we did last week right yeah killmonger save it and tony stark i think they probably led with some of their best which is the way to go with these kind of franchises to get us in and we're and they might be closing with some of their best as well like the tease at the end of this episode was pretty cool i'll say that that i was like yeah it kind of got me back in where i'm like what the fuck was that like even the watcher was like wait what when that big baby which by the way the watcher is just a big baby.

You called him big baby once. When that big baby couldn't believe what he was seeing, that's when you know we're fucked. The guy's won not only his job, but his literal life is watching. And even he couldn't believe what he was watching. You know it's good then. We saw the Grandmaster. We saw Korg. And of course, we get a lot of Jane Foster and Darcy.

They eventually get sucked into all of this as well. Darcy winds up marrying Howard the Duck and like an Elvis impersonator does the wedding in Vegas. That's some of the wackiest stuff that they've ever done in the MCU. And that was what I was there for. This is something that is very tricky to deal with. And I actually blogged about this yesterday with Jessicaessica rabbit because they're changing her look in disney if you marry howard the duck that means you're fucking howard the duck and they kind of go to it and howard the duck too yeah that's just weird can we just say it's weird because like jessica rabbit everyone's saying oh

she's dressed too scandalous these days and it's like but she's fucking a rabbit that's the real fucked up parts. That's bestiality. I don't care if they're cartoons. I don't care if Howard the Duck is whatever the hell he was in his movie back in the 80s, whatever kind of thing. That's just weird. I'm sorry. When you're getting married, you're stealing the deal.

We all know how it goes. It's, you know, drunk. Beauty and the Beast, though. That's weird. That is weird. That is very fucking weird. Belle. You're Belle.

You're fucking literally beauty. And you're going after just some – all right, we've got off track here. I apologize. Seeing Darcy, it brought back some feelings, and they're not good feelings. Everyone forgets. She just kind of like disappeared in WandaVision. I'm going to put this completely on the COVID-related mayhem.

I'm sure the scheduling does. But Darcy's story in WandaVision made no fucking sense where she's like a big part of it going, drives away and then like just disappeared for like an episode where she would have been very important and then just kind of like tapped out at the end.

Can we just, are we going to just agree in the basement to give, it's like those arguments that will always come up or those debates. We'll just give the end of WandaVision a little bit of a COVID mulligan. Since I feel like that ending could have been different or better if things hadn't popped up. Maybe there was a little with, you know,

the M guy who we will not mention, maybe there was some issues with him and bringing him into the mix and then fucking over with China. But let's just say that we were all left a little unsatisfied and I kind of associate Darcy with that until she's brought back again and kind of, you know, makes good on the promise that I thought,

I think we all had for her. I did see someone bring up the fact that Ralph Boner had headshots in his room and maybe he wants to get cast in Rogers, the musical. Could you imagine if he shows up in Rogers, the musical as an actor? White in Jersey. Yeah.

That makes, that would be fucking okay. I'd be a good connection. Well, here we go. the musical as an actor white in jersey yeah that makes that would be fucking okay um that'd be a good connection well here we go ruining the shows for ourselves again before the movie before they even come out yeah the shows i guess that's all i love that i know the creator of hawkeye's like fuck we didn't fucking know they had headshots we don't know who the fuck ralph boner was when i saw the the title of this episode and i saw like what if thor was an only child a child and i immediately thought what if because like i was like holy shit i have this scenario in my house sienna is our thor and

aj is our loki and i'm like if she didn't have aj in her life they're actually at the point now where they're getting good they're playing video games together which is so a adorable and be awesome because it's just like you just put them away for an hour you don't have to worry about anyone getting hurt as you just stare at a tv. But I'm like, holy shit. Then I'm thinking a couple of guys here, siblings who had a big part of our life. What if Bob Fox is an only child? What if Clem is an only child? I'm the oldest.

You're the youngest. And I feel like our personalities, our lives are a thousand percent different. So, so different. I mean, like people that know me and know my brother are like, you are your brother. I think I would be almost like Thor, not like a entitled, but I think it would just be mischief. I think I would go off the rails.

I think it would be like, who is that guy? You wouldn't even know who he was. I think I would have just been even more of like a hermit than I am now. Like without like, and again, the oldest, I kind of probably my,

my, my, my siblings lives would probably be better if they were all my children. I'll say that, but I'm like, what does it seem like? Loki's life in this episode was better as well. It seemed like he was just like more well-adjusted. He was the captain of the football team, but it wasn't like he wasn't even the captain of the football team. He was captain of like the debate club. Yeah. He was intellectual. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So that I think everyone wins in that scenario, which is kind of a fucked up thought. But I would love to hear the listeners, if you're either on the YouTube, the comments, or tweet at us.

Is your life better? If you're in there, like the video that way. Yes, like, subscribe. Guys, subscribe, please. I mean, we're buddies. We're all pals in the basement. How are you just not going to click the button? I see the stats every week.

48% of the people that watch this aren't subscribed. What's going on? Who are you people? I saw a guy who put that in his video. And I think it was like 1% of the people who don't, you know, it's, it was,

it was, it was even crazier. It was like 1% of the people who watch his subscribe. And I subscribed to the guy. I've seen two of his videos. My whole life is a football guy. And I'm like, I got it.

That's just fucked up. That's just not right. So come on. We're all friends here in the basement. Hit the subscribe button. But I want to know, would your life be better or worse if you were an only child or for the only children based on what you know, you know, your friends and different family members across your family would, how would it change if you had siblings? You know what I mean? Cause my, my brother-in-law love the guy

is an only child. I wouldn't wish that on anybody, man. That shit is just tough. And I know we're going to offend some of the only children out there, but I think a lot of only children, they go into like if they want to have kids, I think they always try to have more than one because I do think that is a weird existence. I just think it's different. You get spoiled with presents, but then all the other days it's like who are you playing with? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Or you had an asshole brother or sister.

You're like, my life would have been so much better. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Or, I mean, or you had an asshole brother or sister. You're like, my life would have been so much better. That guy sucked. True. Dane Cook, probably like I would have rather been an only child. His brother robbed him

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That's how it works. I think you can just say that. That's legally binding, yeah. By the way, another thought I had. How good does Odin sleep look? Oh, yeah. This might be like we're at the point now where aj wakes up at around two in the morning sienna wakes up around four in the morning and they all crawl into our bed every single night so i haven't had a legitimately even below average sleep i'm just bad or worse

junk sleep i believe they say mattress no no free ads but i believe they say junk sleep i i live on junk sleep now and i was like fuck i would give if i could have any superpower in the world it would just be a night of odin sleep that looks well i just re-watched guardians 2 and i was thinking about that with nebula how she puts ego to sleep every night like that's her original purpose i'm like could you imagine having a nebula like just right next to you when you're like all right i'm ready ready for bed um yeah mantis mantis mantis and she just you're i mean you can make a case that mantis is like the most eligible bachelorette in the entire mcu just for having that superpower right not to drive some other tracks is insistent that

she is horrific looking and disgusting but maybe for everyone else yeah that's a that's a great point there's probably some freaky shit she could do with that power, but just the sleep thing, I'm sold, man. She put down fucking God or whatever you consider ego and the T-Man. So, like, two most powerful beings I've seen on the big screen, and she put them both fucking down. But she's got that thing where she touches you. She knows what you're thinking right away.

Be careful with that as a boyfriend, you know? difficult that's tough yeah um nick fury was knocked down and knocked out in the in the whole vegas melee so uh captain marvel was called in to fight thor so they go they fight in the desert there's stuff getting knocked over all over the place i think they knocked over the um what do they call stonehenge yeah they knocked over stonehenge there was at one point in the episode where thor uh going to like fix everything that he messed up before uh pushed the leaning tower of pisa back into place i thought that was a nice little like those are the what if nods that i want those are the what if little history things that i like i we kind of wanted more of those in loki really like the little history things that I liked. I, I, we kind of wanted more of those in Loki really like the little history

things where you're like, Oh wait, could you imagine if they would have done something where Loki got knocked into the tower of Pisa so many years ago and that's why it's leading. I don't know. Something like that. That's some cool.

And I think that would itch Kevin's like that would get Kevin that nice little history itch and stuff like that, that he had talked about. Like that's another thing we've tried to talk about with hulk but being able to see captain marvel just do some crazy shit with her powers and not being nerfed because it's important because you can't just like make a whole movie about this and it's just captain marvel can just do everything with a snap of the fingers and i think i had read that there's a superman where he like fixes the leaning tower piece oh really so yeah it's a little like it could be a nod to that as well um that scene i had this gave me a first of all shout out maria taylor my girl shabatsky how i met your

mother one of my favorite shows oh it's basically the sitcom version of game of thrones for me was loved it was in on it and then the last season has completely uh killed the rewatch ability for me you've been you've been scorned too many times. You need a good final season from one of your shows. I know. I just need them. That's why the Russo brothers could never do any wrong in my mind because they stuck the landing with such a fucking, such a harder thing to do with all these different movies by all these different directors

and all these different characters and the most ambitious crossover of our lifetime and they still fucking made it land. I guess that's why I have such a love for them. Seeing that hotel room, and Bob, I know you're not a big partier and i'm not like crazy party guy i'm not gonna act like you know glennie balls or anything but i've had a few of my day and just seeing like that scene when you're like just exhausted you had yourself a night everyone is just feeling like crap from all the stuff they drank the night before and just like i got such

anxiety from that it was a little bit of hangover vibes from the movie the hangover first hangover and i this this kind of brings me to another point i had today i was listening we were playing fortnight with the kids and eco eco came on the song when he goes into being the rain man basically yeah i looked up the soundtrack to the hangover i mean i forgot just bangers and they're so important that song eco eco uh in the air tonight you have you have uh the conge west song uh you know all of them play a big part of the movie and like honestly looking back now that's as big of a reason that that movie like everything needed to be perfect for that movie to become like the phenomenon it was and the

soundtrack you can just quite simply not overlook so i had a i had to put that one out and there's very few things in life i'll say favorite things in the world like favorite times of my life top five five favorite times of my life is the morning after a night out where everyone's still kind of drunk from the night before you're recapping it they uh i think they call it bonus time in kfc Bonus land. I'm in bonus land. I think a caller once said when you're in bonus land and stuff like that. And there is very few things in life that I love. It's like tailgating, bonus land. Looking back now, it's a lot of drinking things, which explains why I don't have that much fun anymore because I can't do any of that stuff as a parent. A lot of fun stuff.

I feel like my version of that is like walking out of a movie theater after like Endgame or Infinity War and like talking about like the initial like, oh, my God. And that and oh, my God. Do you remember that? We're going to have to go see it again because that like that discussion in the movie theater lobby. That's my bonus time. I think I just came up with something fucking incredible. I don't know how we could do it movie theaters need to do something a place or a forum in the theater where they have everyone then go from the movie and can then break into a scene maybe you get

some food there some drinks yeah like a like a bar like a little bar in the theater i think the chinese theater has something like that like in uh in california the famous one on the sunset strip when i went there uh we went and there was like a full bar and we were like what's this and it's like for people to hang out after the movie i was like oh i can't tell you how many times like i went to i used to do all the different the sequel trilogies with my brother and his friends and we would want to talk about it and we get into like a little huddle and they're like shit like there's people who are going in to see it for the first time we don't spoil anything be like homer from like there's people who are going in to see it for the first time. We don't want to spoil anything.

Be like Homer from the – Homer from the Simpsons. One of the greatest underrated scenes in the history of the universe. But then we would just go in the car. It would be freezing cold because it's in December, obviously. It's a Star Wars release. And then we'd be like, oh, and you're just chatting about everything that happened. You should have it in a place at a bar like you said. You're talking and then, hey, the table next door bird nice little girl that you know meet eyes you guys

are both star wars fans imagine that we met at the movie theater i think we just saved the movie theater industry and i think we just made movies even better it's better than just going on twitter because again when i went on twitter after the last jedi i remember being like i didn't like the last jedi and i don't know how to feel about it and i just got a bunch of angry replies before the tide started turning back out into my direction like that should just be a thing you could just talk about the wound is fresh and let's just you know start spitting some stuff here so all right hopefully eventually we're doing like a my mom's basement movie event where we'll be able to this is my dream go see a movie with an audience of My Mom's Basement listeners. And then immediately afterwards, like set up a table in the front of the theater and just do a podcast about it right there in the theater.

Just rip it fresh. I love it. We get some like questions. We have people come on, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, have people raise their hand. Like, what did you think? Boom, boom, boom. Like get people actually talking. That would be so much fun.

So, hey, if you're a movie theater listening out there, Alamo Draft House regal feeders anyone that's in new york new jersey this area let's do a my mom's basement event come on let's do it we need a pen hotel and resort to get in the tri-state area so we could just do this we do it at pen we get some food some drinks we go to the barstool sports book responsibly bet on some things we could have some fun here man we could oh i uh sorry just one more note here when he said uh telling telling someone to buzz off it's such a great insult it's such a great insult i loved it i using stuff that's like an older thing that kind of kids are like 80 car 80s characters said like suck an egg i always love suck a lot take a long walk off a short pier. Always works.

And when he said, can we just say that in that What If episode, they alluded to a C-word insult without saying it. When he's like, you know what I call someone like you? Oh, yeah. He's going to do it. He's going to say the C-word, which is a very, very intense thing to do on a Disney Plus show, a cartoon.

That would have been hysterical. That would have been a darker moment than like spider-man fading away you're a c word and just like the fucking record scratches everyone like what like howard the duck drops his martini and then throw a party pooper which is kind of like yeah it's a great insult um my wife someone she heard someone call somebody a fun sponge which is like one of my new favorite ones but party pooper is up there too so i just had to shout that out like i you know what i'm gonna edit i'm gonna try to do an edit where he calls her the seawolf i'm gonna save it for myself if you put it on the internet you will get like roasted and canceled but i'm just gonna do it to myself and just laugh we'll show it at the at the live show there we go um frigga contacts thor his mom by the way frigga always a funny

name to me just always frigga frigga uh frigga um sounds like friggin um she contacts him tells him clean up your mess before i get down to earth and he goes around earth cleaning it up that's when he pushes the leaning tower peas it back and she almost buys it until she sees Mjolnir. Mjolnir is, I mean, it looks like a, like a guy at the end of Mardi Gras. It's again,

anyone who's ever thrown a party at their house when their parents don't know has been there before you clean up the entire party. And there's that one corner. There's the bottle cap. It's not even a bottle. It's not even like a stain's that one corner there's the bottle cap it's not even a bottle it's not even like a stain of beer it's just a bottle cap i actually had a buddy who told me that he had that exact situation happen back when he was a kid or you have again the the vodka in the refrigerator that you filled up with water it exploded because it's fucking water not alcohol and all that kind of stuff happened and nothing gets the people ready to help you clean

up a party than the threat of a parent like everyone's doing their own thing you say parents come in and everyone just sobers up and just goes to work and you get like you could clean up the new york city in like 20 minutes flat if they thought like someone's parent was coming so i absolutely love that mule near was basically the bottle cap and yeah and it's never good never good when your mom and your girl are talking behind the scenes to you know something you're doing like that is fucking the mega power is exploding on your fucking soul right there at the end we see thor winds up with jane and the watcher's leg and and this what if we have a happily ever after. Wait, what? And the portal opens and we see, I don't know if I should call this like vision in an Ultron

suit, Ultron with Vision's body. It's Ultron and Vision together. And it looks like they have all of the infinity stones in their little, I don't know, in the Ultron Iron Man suit. What the fuck? You know what it is? It's Ultron in his final form that he had said. Vision was named after, he goes, this is my vision.

That's why he got the name Vision. True. And I only know that because we did the rewatch of Avengers 2 somewhat recently, Age of Ultron. And I'll tell you, I think by the time this season's over, that will be the biggest oh shit moment. We're going to think of a few different moments. We're going to think of different moments. We're going to team man drinking his beer with his smile. And we're going to think, you know,

this vision fully, fully fucking infinity doubt. And that was a, Oh fuck moment. We're like, everything's good. Not so fast. My friends,

that was a big, and again, when the watcher whose entire life is to watch stuff, doesn't even see that shit coming, you know, it's fucking awesome. And as a guy who thinks that Ultron could have been better, would love to see him renewed. And as a clear stand of the Infinity Stones, that was a fucking big oh shit moment. So that might have been – for an episode that was very mid, as the kids say, I thought that was going to be – Like Midgard.

Oh! Oh, Midgard. very mid as the kids say i thought that was like midgard oh oh midgard i always forget that earth is midgard until they like until like a middle name oh that's right earth is that thing i get middle earth and throw i'm all thrown off then asgard so um awesome awesome ending and that is one that i'd love to like i hope that maybe some marvel fans disney you know i guess marvel fans marvel fans will take these endings of some of these what ifs or some of these branches and kind of just do their own content off of it you know i don't know if you could really animate shit um nick hamilton's like all right guys i'm gonna go learn animation he scans my face into like a computer system the

other day so he's got a 3d mold of my head and stuff me too and i was like where did you get this from nick did you spend money? Is this like one of those apps you actually spend 99 cents? He goes, dude, it's completely free. That motherfucker. I mean, he's our Thor. He's our fucking, he's everything to us. I love that guy. And shout out to Nick's sister for making our new intro.

The Ham Fam never misses. Ham Fam never, what, what would have, what if hamilton was an only child tragedy it would be a tragedy to this world because the ham fam i guys barcelona would have a lot less content barcelona chicago would have less content and i got dibs on his 11 year old brother as my own personally don't worry bob my mom's basement is part of my my realm so he the the unnamed i don't even want to know the name of the unnamed brother because it would just feel weird as i'm claiming dibs on an 11-year-old I've never met. But I've already seen some of the stuff he's doing.

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it was one of those movies where I watched it, got out of the theater. And or whatever, I can't wait to rewatch this because it was one of those movies where I watched it, got out of the theater. And I said, I want to see more of those characters, especially after the post-credit scene, which I'll say right off the bat, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers. We're going to talk all about Shang-Chi. If you're complaining about it at this point, come on. It's been weeks since the movie came out. But as soon as I saw the 10 rings tease, where they're like, there's something ancient here going on. We got Bruce banner, which I wanted to say like last week or the week before when you were

like, I wish we got more Bruce banner, more Hulk. I wanted to, I was like, Oh, we're getting more of them. We definitely are interesting seeing him as Bruce banner and not smart

Hulk. That's kind of big. He still got the cast on and we saw captain Marvel. So seeing Shang Chi intertwined with the rest of the we saw captain marvel so seeing shang chi intertwined with the rest of the mcu excites me so much i thought uh sima lu i believe that's how you say his name simu lu uh he was fantastic as that character aquafina was such a good comedic relief character um wenwu the villain his father what an actor what a performance he had the only person i was a little um disappointed by was i think it was the death dealer is that what they call the death dealer just such a cool look

and didn't get much out of the death deal and one wound up getting killed by the end i was kind of like oh keep him around why why are you killing him maybe someone else will take on that that look or whatever but overall thoughts on shang chi i would agree with you that it's not like your average marvel movie i like that about it it doesn't feel like one of those movies where sometimes when directors come out i think that dennis villanueva guy came out and said all marvel movies are like formulaic they just keep remaking the same movie you watch shang chi and you're like no that's just not the case for this movie there's some jason bourne aspects like you get in black widow but then one of the opening scenes of this that fight between shang chi's parents that quote-unquote fight that's like more of a dance

and it's a flowing style it's unlike anything we've seen in the mcu the fight on the bus that is in my opinion like a top 10 maybe top 5 action scene we've seen in the MCU it's crazy the hand-to-hand combat they put into this movie and it's actually Shang-Chi fighting uh Creed's opponent um Drago it's Junior Drago um but yeah I really loved Shang-Chi I can't wait to see more from this character and more from this world I loved them bringing back what's his face from Iron Man 3 Mandarin I love them bringing back, what's his face from Iron Man 3? Mandarin. I loved them bringing back Mandarin.

Ben Kingsley. He was hysterical. The comedy in this movie was so good. When he's talking about Planet of the Apes, and he's like, when I found out that those monkeys weren't really riding horses. They were just acting. Oh, my God. So every time he hit one of those, it was funny. Them bringing him back.

And it wasn't even a cameo, I would say. He like basically in like the whole movie it was now kingsley crushed it man yeah and and you kind of like make a another bad one of the worst one of the what's the worst what's the word i'm trying to use one of the the weaker movies in the mcu yeah and you kind of make it a little better just by a little thing you do in a future movie right you're like oh is it you know like just the way they like embraced all that with open arms i loved it uh big fan of the movie like you said and it's funny you take away that iron man reference you take away the abomination you don't have to take away the abomination thing you take away basically the post-credit scene or mid-credit scene i guess in this case yeah by the way i am a stickler i say it's a mid-credits and a post-credits do not call them the same because if you're talking about

wanting you should talk about you know you should be able to easily clarify don't say first post credits say mid and post but that's just my like weird stickler brain trying to figure things out you take those out and that's not even who would even know it's a marvel movie you know what i'm saying and it it could just be like a supernatural kung fu kind of movie yeah every time i watch a kung fu movie especially i'm talking things like the the way the mom used to fight with like the different things with the elements and the dancing side of things i'm like man i gotta get into kung fu movies which is like one of those guys that grew up with kung fu watching it saturday mornings and stuff like that and it's like i'm always like man i really got to get into it and it's just one of those things i'm never going to do it took me two and a half weeks to see this movie for

and two hours you know i'm not gonna be able to just start getting into a whole new genre of stuff but fuck man kung fu is just so goddamn cool you never hear someone like ah kung fu is all right it's like people get obsessed with kung fu i you talked about all the different characters oddly one of my favorite characters in the whole movie was the mom and i wish we got like at least one more scene with her i agree i i was kind of bummed about it all it was kind of like with um in black widow i had the same thoughts about the mom in that movie but like i just loved her fighting style that sweet mask she had the fighting style was so damn cool that opening scene was like with the leaves and the way she was like throwing him against it oh so so awesome i hope shang chi like incorporates a lot of that kind of style with the

rings and again i i wouldn't blame him if he didn't because i'd be like if i had the rings i would just be using ring fucking power by the way how about this about the rings did you know that the ring design the bracelet design was specifically for this movie had never been like that before they used to just be legit he used to wear 10 rings on his fingers and like punch people with them kind of lame to be on no offense to longtime shang chi comic book fans if there's any listening to this that's kind of lame to me like oh i'm gonna let me put my rings on let me put my pinky ring on before i hit you the rings in this badass like this is like a cool marvel weapon when i look at marvel weapons like i'm not throwing this in the realm of mjolnir and the shield and stuff but like it's pretty fucking cool it's pretty powerful they're gonna build it up to that level eventually

there's more to it because in the in the mid-credit scene they say that there's an ancient thing emanating from them or whatever we don't know what that's about so like i thought the rings were so well handled the way they showed the father having them the way they fought over them at the end the way they lit up like the certain colors for the certain characters rings were badass i i would love to know who and that's one of the things i love about the mcu is they'll take something from the comics and like, all right, we can make this a little cooler by doing this, you know, and it's not a huge upgrade. It doesn't completely change the source material at its core. And that is the example of one of them. I wonder if it's like our boy, the fog man,

who's like, Hey, I think it was, I think it was this guy, Andy Park, who follows me on Twitter and I've mentioned him. So maybe we'll get him on the show. I'm giving Andy Park the Best Employee of the Week, if that's true. Only if that's true, Andy. That's the only way you win the award. If that's true, we'll give it to you because I really – I had no idea that was the case, obviously, but I think that did make a huge difference, and I think it –

like, I'll tell you, rings. You're going into Shang-Chi, you're like, I don't really know about this. I think if you go back to when the movie was announced and then when the trailer was like it could be good you throw some rings on a motherfucker i'm not gonna love it i'm not gonna love it more than likely so i'm kind of lame like what does he got a mood ring now and lighten up the color of his mood no sienna got a mood ring the other day from the bowling alley and i was like man to be young and experience a mood ring for the first time but to this this day, I still am like kind of scared about it.

I'm like, don't you bring that sorcery in this house, girl. That's the dark arts right there. Agatha over there, yeah. All right, so we'll go through the little plot here. Wenwu discovers the mythical Ten Rings. This is thousands of years ago, they show. And it grants their user immortality and godly powers. He establishes the Ten Rings organization,

conquering kingdoms and toppling governments throughout history. And he searches for Tal Lo. This was a village sent to harbor mythical beasts to expand his power. He travels through this forest and the forest is moving. And it's a weird like CGI thing that looks cool. And the forest looked like the trees almost looked like hair moving. It was crazy. And he gets to the village but he stopped by the garden uh the guardian ying li the two fall in love but the

villagers reject wenwu so lee leaves him uh when we abandoned the ten rings they have two children shang chi and what was the how do you say this z Zili. Zili. Zili Yang. Bob. I can't even say it. It's been a month, bro. It's been a month. Everyone. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. It's Shang-Chi's sister from the movie. She runs the whole fucking fight club. You remember it. When Shang-Chi is seven, Lee is murdered by Wenwu's enemies, the Iron Gang. Wenwu once again takes up the Ten Rings to massacre the Iron Gang, resumes leadership of his organization, and has Shang-Chi undergo brutal training in martial arts. Ziliang, I think that's how you say it, goddamn, probably isn't, secretly copies his training. And when Shang-Chi is 14, Wenwu sends him to assassinate the Iron Gang's leader. After he fulfills his mission, which he hides he hides from aquafina for a long time even after he reveals some stuff a demoralized shang chi runs away to san francisco and adopts the name

sean i thought it was really funny when him and aquafina are going back and forth when he first reveals himself on the bus after the bus fight scene with um with drago jr and he's like yeah my real name is sean she And she's like, Sean? Your name's Sean? You went from Sean to Sean and you're wondering how they caught you, you idiot? Bob, Robbie Fox. Oh, wait, I have to hide.

Bob Fox. That's what I did. Yeah. That was, like, there was a few jokes that, like, they kind of let it keep going and there was some that didn't land. This one, I think, landed. I loved it.

Yeah. Shout out to Awkwafina. She was good in this. Katie, good comedicic relief character they get attacked on the bus by the 10 rings they steal the pendant from shang chi and they know he knows that like oh they're gonna they they want or they they had um the sister's pendant i think and they show it to him and he's like oh my god my sister's in trouble he has the postcard for months ago and he's like we got to go out to her we got to help her he goes to this underground fight club which she founded which he didn't realize and she escaped from when we founded this fight club and wong and abomination are fighting

when they go in he's immediately recognized shang chi's bus boy they're like oh you're the fucking guy from the bus video they're like get in there get in the ring fucking sign this consent form he signs it doesn't realize what he's signing but he signs up to fight in the ring we see that abomination seems to be throwing that wong is basically throwing the fight for abomination it looks like a fixed fight at the end because he's like you hit me too stiff at the end there next time pull your punches better i don't know what's going on here but maybe wong is abominations like parole officer and he's trying to get him some money i like that i like wong wong wong's also carrying himself like he helped restore the lives of you know happy oh yeah brought off thanos in the in the battle of

endgame i like my guy he's a little cocksure himself again he got the invite to 20 starts wedding which you know he put that another feather in his cap. Big Wong. This is a Big Wong podcast. I'm a Big Wong guy. So I'm happy the way it all went out. I'm happy. That was such a sick way to win, too, where he used a portal and he punches himself out.

That was so dope. So dope. So he gives him the money. Shang-Chi eventually gets in the ring, and he has to fight his sister. He's like, what? I'm not fighting my sister. His sister beats the fuck out of him, to be honest. like i don't care i'll fight you the 10 rings then attack the fight club they all have to escape together there's an awesome action sequence on all the scaffolding with the death dealer with wenwu when we eventually get shang chi he takes

him and this is when we meet um morris and the mandarin trevor slattery that was his real name oh and this is where they reveal the magical map to the secret village with the water it was like the cool water thing where they poured it in they put the penance in as the i think it was the eyes yeah yeah yeah and they reveal the the whole thing cgi off the charts in this movie from this to the dragons at the end to morris just being like a pillow with legs and wings running around the mythical beast in this new land awesome cgi top to bottom the everything about like it was just an engaging movie and it hits you in so many different ways it hits you in the beginning with the fight it hits you with the bus scene it hits you with a little there was almost like madripoor vibes right too or oh yeah the dirty underbelly and all that kind of stuff i loved it um also that on the bus by the

way bus boy is like a hilarious someone in general um the guy filming on the phone from spider-man which i love how like i saw that later on reddit that's crazy and that guy would have a following by that point it's a coach hit that guy that one time he gets subscribers and then you see all the different emojis. I am such a sucker for any time you take newer technology and put it in your movie, whether it's a text, it's social media, the emojis and all that kind of stuff.

And the better movies do that, the more I appreciate the movie because that is just the world we live in now, right? To be able to put that with the audience. Also on the bus scene, fucking San Francisco. Awesome. Like scene.

Like I wish we did. There was a couple like stop ruining New York, ruin some other cities that we know. You gotta watch Ant-Man. Gotta watch Ant-Man. And I know movies. I know it's a San Fran thing just only because of obviously end game. That's that's because I know where he shows up.

Sienna went fucking crazy when they showed the Golden Gate Bridge because she's obsessed with Full House. Not Full House. Really? Full House. She watches the old ones with my wife. So she saw that and her eyes got really wide. But just seeing the hills and stuff like that, the hills in San Francisco. And I've been to San Fran, which they don't like me called San Fran.

Don't do that. The residents don't like that or Frisco, but just seeing like how you can make so many cool things with the Hills and stuff like that. I wanted, I wish they had a trolley, but maybe they thought it would have been a little too cliche. And someone, I once took a trolley in San Francisco. My wife and I went out there for a vacation and the guy was like, Oh,

I got to go somewhere and get something for my car. Parked the trolley jam-packed with people and left for like five minutes and then came back and there was people driving behind him and they and no one beeped no one lost their minds i'm like man that we are not in new york and no it was an absolute trip i and there was also in chung chi's room there was a warriors poster did you see that the warriors oh no yeah and it was i think have you watched the words have you ever seen it no i haven't i played the video game there was like a popular video game and i was into it how was the video game because i never really good i got into i watched it once years ago um after i don't even

know how i just i like i'd heard about it that seems cool it might like it is very dated but i feel like it might hold up pretty well if you're just like this is new york it's a crazy world and i'm sure either it's been remade or someone's going to remake it and they'll probably fuck it up. But it is a really good movie. Like that is a suggestion. I mean, we can't really do it a rewatch, but I'd love to see the Bob Fox reaction to the Warriors. I'll do some 3G. I'll watch Warriors.

I'll check it out. Yeah. By the way, as I was on the Wikipedia page, I didn't realize Morris is like a real, not a real creature, but a mythical creature from China, from Chinese mythology called a hundun. And I just clicked on the Wikipedia page. It looks exactly like Morris. It's a faceless creature, bunch of legs. It's got wings. They nailed that more than I'd say.

Like, the way I love Morris is the way I thought I was going to love, what is it, Porgs in Star Wars? Yeah. Like, I was in love with is it porgs in star wars yeah like i was in love with morris he didn't say anything didn't really do anything but he said things to trevor he he guided them through the forest so they want to go to the forest before when we can get there when woo actually has a good villain motivation in this he believes his wife is being imprisoned in this village he hears her calling out to him it's because the rings are corrupting him or whatever and they wind up escaping and moore's guides them through the forest he's like turn here turn here whatever they get to the mythical land and they see all of these creatures this is unlike anything we've seen in a marvel movie this is when i said

you kind of forget you're watching a marvel movie for a bit especially when they're just pulling up and kind of taking everything in and oh my god there's a white lion thing unicorn over here and there's a morris creatures over here and there's uh dragons flying around and all of this crazy stuff and they come to warn the villagers here that hey glenn was coming and he thinks that you guys have my mother who is obviously dead um imprisoned here so we're gonna have to teach you guys how to fight or i guess they kind of know how to fight at that point but they just gather up all the supplies it's kind of like in the mandalorian when you see like the village preparing for a battle i was i had the same exact thoughts with uh the mandalorian uh episode where he was trying to get them skins.

That fucking Talo was beautiful. Was that shot in Newark? I don't know. Where in New Jersey is that shot? Yeah, I don't know. When I saw that Fox, it was like the white Fox with like the two tails,

final fantasy vibes immediately. Like everything there looked like a final fantasy enemy. It was fucking like mind-boggling I could see that yeah I was thinking Pokemon I'm not even a big Pokemon guy but I was like it kind of reminds me of what I've seen from Pokemon that was one other thing I was like I feel like that might be a Pokemon character but I'm

too old to even know if that's the case and my kids are still too young I need my kids to get into Pokemon soon just so then I can like Spongebob so I can start being with the kids again here and getting my dabbling into that side of pop culture for sure. But by the way, Razorfist, the guy

who has the fuck... It's not as bad as Taserface. It's bad, though. That's a bad name. Yeah, Razorfist is. Yeah. Come on, man. And this is a guy whose fucking name is the Clem Report. And again, it was something I thought... I just did did it to create the blog i never in a million years thought it would actually be a thing that i carried around me but come on man razor fist this is what we're

doing really when they talk about the dark gate check off dark gate knew that was coming back yeah so they they tell the story of the dark gate and the dweller of darkness and his minions and this is who has been corrupting and influencing wenwu to believe that lee is still alive so he'll open the gate and allow him out but there's this chinese dragon the great protector he saw up seal the great gate long ago hasn't been seen since all this stuff when we finally arrives with the 10 rings they attack they attack the village they overpower shang chi they force him into a nearby lake and then attack the gate with the rings all all the while uh trevor slattery and morris playing dead great

little uh bit they had when they cut to him there and they allow some of the dwellers minions to escape eventually the the villagers join forces with the ten rings to fight them with the dragon uh the dragon scales and stuff in their weaponry you can only fight dragons with dragon that was kind of a cool thing they had there and then shang chi is revived by the great protector underwater this is an awesome hero moment this is kind of the captain marvel standing up at the end of her movie um this is black widow breaking her nose and being like i fucking got you with your pheromones whatever and the dragon comes up he rides it like he's fucking uh john snow at the end of game of

thrones and he defeats the dweller in darkness the dragon with the great protector the fight was awesome the ending was awesome i like that this movie didn't um not that black widow like dragged on and on after the ending, but Black Widow felt like it had a couple epilogues almost. And this movie kind of just ended when it ended. It has the little ending where they go back to the friends and they start telling them, the friends that were like, you guys got to get out more. You're so boring. They start telling him the story of the movie. And then Wong comes out and he's like, come on, guys, we got to get you. I love that Wong isn't even trying to hide with the magic and i don't know if they ever really did but it's like dude like yeah the portal just yeah he's opening it yeah my name's fucking wong and

then they sing hotel california in the karaoke bar i had to mention that hysterical ending to the movie very funny like oh one more laugh shang chi was a good time love that callback it was awesome wong definitely is that booze hound like you know do you think wong is like with the loud sean yeah he's got a dark nights yeah you're with wong you're working with him like that guy's pretty nice and then you'll see him out at the karaoke place or in vegas you're like holy shit that is wong is is definitely the loud shot in this scenario. I wanted to ask you, go-to karaoke song. Do you have a go-to karaoke song?

You're going to laugh at this one. Everyone's going to laugh at this one. I've only gone out to karaoke once. I've only done one song. It's Forgot About Dre. I did the Eminem parts. Yes! Oh, man, that's incredible.

That's incredible. I think Buddha's friend, Yo-Fre, did the Dre parts, I think. That's, okay. It was a good night. I don't really remember. That's the best kind of car. It was the official Glenny Ball, is what it was. It was Glenny's 21st birthday. And when Glenny Ball got shut down, Asa Akira hit up her friend who ran a,

I think it was a gay karaoke bar in, like, the Lower East Side or something. And we went there. We had a great night. Karaoke is like when you go to a bowling alley, you're like, why don't I do this more? Every time I walk through the door of a bowling alley, I'm like, I got to go bowling more. I haven't even bowled at that point.

I just love it. And karaoke is the same thing. My go-to song, and this kind of works always at a party, it always hits, Crying by Aerosmith. Everyone just gets it. Oh, yeah. There's something special. It's a good one. song and this kind of works always at a party it always hits crying by aerosmith everyone oh yeah there's something it's a good one and my wife and i did um somebody to love by queen basically any queen works but i try not to go like like the bohemian rap city it's yeah or whatever you got to get something that has a little bit of a change to it so don't stop me now would probably crush

don't stop yeah big time that gets the whole party back into the vibe i loved um that now we have dragons in the mcu i think that's a legitimate thing i think they can now be seen down the road you know whatever the end game moment was where kang is about to fuck shit up and there's portals opening we're getting he rides in on the fucking great protector that'd be badass that would be sick i got in a little bit of um never-ending story about which i don't bob fox did you ever see that no but we talked about it before Bob Fox, did you ever see that, Bob Fox? No, but we talked about it before because you and Kevin had made me look up for Alioth. When we saw Alioth and Loki, you guys were like, you got to look up the Neverending Story because there was kind of a smoke monster in that.

And then I saw the white dragon and all that. The dog, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can also say inside that mountain, if our guy Shang-Chi chi hadn't closed it up we know who was coming out of that mountain right who the big man the big m he's cooking shit up that's why he wasn't in one division he's deep in the cave yeah mountain with some soul soul snatching dragons and shit like that and i i you said it perfectly i love when they give the villain such a good like reasoning to it and it wasn't just, I'm bad. He was like, my wife is kidnapped.

And everyone around him was like, what are you crazy? And he's like, no, I hear her. I swear, he really, really, truly believed in his heart that he was about to save his dead wife. Yep, 100%. And ever since, it's growth, it's with age. I've learned to experience, to see from someone else's point of view.

After that dress, where you could see it blue and you could see it gold, I've learned that there are two different points of view in this world. So I've learned to embrace – and the one where – The Last Jedi. Yeah, The Last Jedi. It's the movie version of the dress. And there's that one where they say the same thing, but it's – Oh, yeah. And it's like which one you're reading or which one you're thinking of.

You hear that. Yeah. I've seen those before. Those, those always mess me up. If I'm on too much three, chief, it's like the, it's like the thing from a mall rats where he's looking at the picture and

he's like, it's a, it's a scooter. And the mid credit scene, as I mentioned, Wong introduces Shang Chi and Katie to Banner and Carol Danvers. They discover that the Ten Rings are emanating a mysterious signal. And then in the post-credits scene, Shang-Chi's sister becomes the new leader of the Ten Rings, and she forms a new army.

So I don't know where that's going to come in in the future, but keep an eye out. That blew my fucking mind. And it's like what was this all for and i guess you know fighting uh i guess now it's just the the sign of like maybe they're they're good now the 10 rings they're on our side like when maybe that maybe that was for the eventual like big kang battle or dr strange battle when you just need like in endgame there's a bunch of just Doctor Strange's sorcerers. Maybe there's just going to be a bunch of the Ten Rings in the background now.

That could make sense. Okay. Yeah, because that one threw me for a real loop where it's like, thought we were friends this whole time, and now you're taking over. And kind of going back to the beginning of it, I loved seeing how history events play out now that you know that they have these kind of powers. That assassination,

taking over government so you see the assassination. I'm like, I wonder if that's an actual thing. If anyone knows if that's an actual callback because I'm shooting Archduke Ferdinand. I'm like, oh, there you go. Or assassinating him against a mess scenario.

So I would have appreciated something like that. And then the mid-credits scene, calling it now, put it on the record. Something was sus. Something was sus with Captain Marvel there. There was something up. We have some Skrull world coming,

Secret War, whatever the fuck's going to happen here. There was some sus shit going on. She left. I'm not going to say she's sus. I would never say such a thing. I would never call anyone sus. That didn't deserve it.

Only the most people. By the way, Sue, the friend who was with that guy, I would never say such a thing. I would never call anyone sus. That didn't deserve it. Only the most people I know. By the way, Sue, the friend who was with that guy who was like kind of judging them. Sus. One letter away. Replace the E in Sue with an S. Sus. Right there in front of our faces.

She's going to become a villain too in the future, I bet. But I don't know. I just felt there was something up. And like you said, that beacon. There's some ancient shit. Whatever. Like the way that the ancient shit was moving too. kind of what i was thinking by the way when she was fucking moving those pages and shit the ancient thing i know that kang the conqueror has like a rama tut persona that it was like around during the the egyptian times

maybe it's a kang the conqueror thing one of his evil personas from back in the day i don't know you had the idea to rank shang chi on an interesting scale um do you want to like open this up for the listeners yeah so um i guess this this should be maybe this should be the one they comment on you comment on both who cares well yeah everyone putting your reviews right now if you've made it if you've made it to the end, comment again, exactly. Comment again. It's all fucking family. Um,

especially if you subscribe to the video, you are now our brother or sister. Um, so this is how we're going to do the reviews for this movie. Instead of giving you like a one through 10 or an eight through F or any of those one through a hundred, this is how we're going to rank this movie. Shang Chi.

If it was a say nineties to 2000s wrestler, how would it be? So if it's fucking awesome, it's incredible, the most entertaining thing, the most electrifying movie in the game today, it would be The Rock. I was going to say, yeah, like Captain America 1 and – or I would say Captain America 2 and Iron Man 1 would be like Captain America and The Rock or something. You know, like something big like that. Or the Brooklyn Brawler is Thor 2. Exactly.

Exactly. Yeah. So there's a segment of our audience that's not going to get this. Again, the basement, we touch a lot of different parts here. This is the wrestling side. The Waldron brains in the world will love this. Exactly. The Waldron shout out.

He shouted out Barstool and Heels. So check that out. All right. I had a wrestler come to mind pretty immediately for this when you texted me. And I don't know if I'm just being influenced by the dragons and the yin yangs initially, but I think it's Rob Van Dam. I think that's a clear cut, good descriptor for this movie. And if you know me, you know, that's saying a lot.

I'm a big Rob Van Dam fan. I like Rob Van Dam quite a bit. He won the world title eventually when he made it to WWE. But for the most part, he was like a mid Carter. And you were like, I'd like to see more of this guy. I like this guy. He's a high flyer. He does crazy stuff I've never seen before.

And I want to see him intertwined with the rest of them. So I'm going to go with Rob Van Dam. That's a good one. That's a high flyer. He does crazy stuff I've never seen before. And I want to see him intertwined with the rest of them. So I'm going to go with Rob Van Dam. That's a good one. That's a good one. And I think mine is pretty close to yours. Rey Mysterio. Yeah. Rey Mysterio Jr., right?

It's like different. We're on the same exact wavelength there. 3C. We're in the same 3C plane of existence right now. Fun, crazy stuff happening. A little bit of mystery. Don't really know all that's going on there, but I was like, I like it. I want another guy who never really won the world title until 2006.

He didn't win the world title. So like Shang-Chi, I could see him in the future becoming, you know, one of the faces of the MCU right now. He's not there yet. So I think Ray Mysterio, Jr. Rob Van Dam. Great comparisons here. We're dealing ECW and WCW.

Totally. Rob Van Dam and Ray Mysterio. We're not ECW and WCW respectively. Totally. Rob Van Damme and Ray Mysterio. We're not talking, you know, but it's like there is potential there and I do think he will, especially I think, I have no idea if this is true, I didn't get to see the goddamn whiteboard that I know exists, Walter. I feel like Black Panther was going to have a huge

role with, you know, Bozeman down the road obviously he passed and I think Shang-Chi might be one of the characters that I don't think think you could fill that with one person multiple people can fill it and i think shang chi is going to be part of it but yeah i think all the different stuff that you made you love rob van dam and ray mysterio was in this movie so uh and that again those are two great great sign-offs yeah if you haven't seen shangChi yet, we're saying, I mean, you listen to the whole podcast and yeah, but we're saying Rob Van Dam and Rey Mysterio. Go see Shang-Chi if you haven't already, though. I have a question for you, Bob, here.

I have two questions, actually. I came up with after this. One, would you rather have the rings or the tallow magic? The rings. I think the rings. As I said it out out loud i wrote this in the movie theater so cool when he like did the thing and then they were all coming off of him with the energy is pretty fucking cool yeah it's pretty it's the fucking rings like his dad like and even when he was wearing them around like just like they were accessories yeah with his with his outfits you know he was kind of he had fire outfits the whole movie uh the second question i loved juan being a cage cage fighter and kind of like with like the booze hound side of things

it's something you would never see coming who at barstool will be the most unlikely where you're like yo that's that guy or girl is a cage fighter because i actually had a i had a co-worker back in the day who was just i think he worked in corporate i don't know what he did accounting or something like that sales and we found out that he night he at night he was an air guitar champion it's like uh it's like ron swanson and his like duke silverton he plays he plays saxophone or whatever exactly so who in barstool or if they told you this guy is fucking is in fight clubs in you know in china you know in their spare time and fighting the abomination like who would be the biggest shock i got like mincy imagine mincy was just like mince or uh like even big daddy trent i'll tell you letting his anger out bob i'm gonna

eat with a counterpoint i guarantee mincy's fought in a fight club before. In New Orleans. In Louisiana. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're born in fight clubs in Louisiana. I'm going to say – I didn't even think of the answer to my own question. I think Lenny balls. Could you imagine? I can't.

No. That's why it surprised me the most. It's a good answer. Lenny balls. And it's like, Lenny, did you fall or something? He's like, oh, no. I was drunk one night. It's like, noie, like, did you fall or something? He's like, oh, no, like, I was drunk one night. It's like, no, you fucking beat the abomination in a cage fight.

Glennie's choking someone out on the floor. Tap! Scream and tap out! And he's like, he wipes the blood off his chin and just throws his fucking balls beachwear on. He's wearing a Hawaiian shirt. Grabs another high noon. People are buying him high noons at the bar they're like great fight champ great fight champ they just call them champ instead of glenny exactly oh man that's a what if that i'd like to see we'll get back to the what if scenarios with clem next week what if episode

eight take a little break on this week think about them everyone leave them in the comments if you want um tweet us what if scenarios for next week. Barstool, what if scenarios. We'll be back for episode eight of what if, the penultimate episode. Unless there's a secret episode 10. And now a special interview with one of the cast members from Shang-Chi himself, Dallas Liu. Cutting off the pod one more time to tell everyone about America's number one meal kit, it's HelloFresh. I use this stuff each and every week. I love HelloFresh. I actually used my own promo code to get it, and it's the easiest stuff to cook. You get these meals, they're pre-measured

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14 Robbie for up to 14 free meals, including free shipping on your first order. Hello, Fresh. It's America's number one meal kit for a reason. Let's get back into the show. Hello, and welcome to my mom's basement, ladies and gentlemen. I am honored to be here with Dallas Liu. He is in Shang-Chi in The Legend of the Ten Rings. I actually got to see the movie last night at a press screening. We're recording this a little early, but I loved it.

I thought it was awesome. So first off, just congratulations for being a part of such a great movie, such an awesome cast and everything. How was the premiere? Was it surreal to be a part of that? Yes, 100%. That was my first red carpet walk, actually. So being there in the moment, I'm from LA. So right on Hollywood Boulevardlevard i mean it was like a dream come true and being surrounded by guys like simu um benedict wong and having aquafina there is just it was it was absolutely nuts it's a crazy cast it's so likable i thought like aquafina and simu's like back and forth the entire movie i was like these are just i want to see these guys interact with the rest of the MCU. I want to see more of this world. It was awesome.

How much of the cast had you met? Were there like COVID protocols in place? I don't know when the movie was filmed, but was like this the first big meeting of the cast together? Yeah. I think this was like one of the first times that everyone was there all together, at least for me. I mean, I was there on like the first couple

days of shooting so i was only really with met with um my grandma my mom in the movie and simo and aquafina yeah um i believe covid had like just started and it was starting to get bad in australia and i had actually left as soon as like they started having some real protocols and then as you know like here in LA it hit a little bit after so I was doing another show when I had actually like gotten kicked off set because of the they were still trying to figure everything out and how to approach it but um yeah I had just dodged it I mean COVID was like hitting making the news and things like that but I don don't think anyone was expecting for it to. Oh my God, yeah.

Yeah, obviously. What was it like getting the call back and being like, hey, yeah, you're going to be in Shang-Chi, like you're in the next Marvel movie? Was that like, do you remember the moment like it was yesterday? I mean, it was totally unexpected. I received a call from my manager and she just made it sound so nonchalant.

She was like, oh, hey, like I got some news for you. I was like, oh, man, because I had been thinking about it for like the entire week. And she was like, oh, yeah, you like you booked it. And I was like, shut up. No way. So, yeah, I was super stoked. I was super stoked. I mean, that was like one of the major steps like moving forward in my career, just because I done, you know, TV comedy and children's stuff so this being my first role in a film, this large was definitely memorable.

Did you like getting to watch yourself on screen at the premiere or are you like no i don't like to watch myself um personally i'm not one to like really watch myself like that but at at the when we were watching um the movie i honestly wasn't too bothered by it i was i was really happy with the people that were watching and having everyone there and the environment was just great so i didn't really care all too much i was just psyched to be there good because sometimes you hear actors say like yeah I couldn't even look at the screen during the premiere because like I was just like oh no I can't watch my own performance like sometimes I'm like that I edit my own podcast I hate listening to my own voice I'm just like uh yeah I get after that I feel like um I mean the the one thing that like kind of bothered me was my haircut in the show. I mean, the film. It was just the complete opposite of me.

So I was like, oh, my gosh, like I can't believe like people are going to watch this. And that's going to be like the image that they have of me. So I did some research on you before this interview and I found your martial arts background really fascinating. I watched some videos and I just want to confirm that these were you the weapons competition videos. Are these you? Yep. All the swords videos. Yeah. Videos. That was all me from my early days in competing in national karate. Absolutely crazy. Some of these videos. How old were you when you got started in this? Because some of these videos, you look so young, but you also look like you could take the heads off of everyone in the room if you wanted to. Um, I had started karate when I

was five and a half, actually. And when did you get to the level where you were competing on these like national level? Probably when I was about around 10 or 11 is when I really started taking it serious with the acrobatic flips and the tosses and the high level competing for like performance karate. And when you were doing that, did you have dreams or aspirations of being an actor? Or were you like, no, this is what I am, a martial artist. I'd like to do that for the rest of my life. It didn't really hit me probably until like my last year of competing so I want to say around 2013 um maybe a little bit of 2012 um I guess I was just kind of growing tired of karate just because I'd been doing it for so long like competing like that um and I was just kind of exploring different routes

and then I came across Leo Howard who um he was in Disney XD's Kicking It. And we had trained at the same dojo a couple times and worked out with each other and things like that. So seeing him on the big screen, like in my own house was something that like I was like, I mean, I know it's like a risky route career path in life. So, I mean, we'll see how it turns out and here I am I stuck with it and obviously I have a passion for it but to actually follow through with it and give it everything you've got you know it's it's scary yeah how does the pressure of like an audition compare to the pressure of a competition in martial arts? That's a good question. Honestly, I would say they're about the same just because, I mean, the thing with karate is you have the same routine probably for the entire year, maybe some different flips at specific tournaments. But in an audition, every time you're

going in, you have different script, different character um and you're meeting with different people so they're they're different but I felt like the pressure was the same in a sense just it's like you're when you're going out for an audition it's like a competition you know yeah you see the actors outside you see the sign-in sheet and you're like all right it's go time is it nerve-wracking going in for an audition still for you? I mean, I haven't gone in for an audition in so long. Oh yeah, I guess COVID has shut that stuff down. Yeah. Yeah, they've been having us do self-tapes in our own home. So what's that like?

Pain, a pain. Lighting, you got to find someone to read with you. And my parents and like my younger brother, they're just like dude go go ask a friend I was like all right I end up like driving um to LA meet with a friend get the camera set up the lights and then yeah I mean it's nice in the sense that you get as many takes as you want to get that perfect um you know tape to to send in. But it's also like, you don't get that in the room experience with the casting directors and the

producers and things like that. So are you looking forward to going back to that audition process? Like the one that you were formerly going through? I could really KLS either way. I mean, whichever way they have this audition moving forward i'm gonna give it my all regardless um of how comfortable i am with it just because you know this is something that i want to do with my future and i feel like with these sort of situations you just kind of have to adapt yeah and you were just cast in another huge role i mean this one zuko in the last airbender series

this is like every time you if you go on uh online right now i'm sure all of your mentions just like airbender fans being like oh my god oh my god oh my god they're trying to find the martial arts videos if you look in the comments they're all like oh my god look he's got the voice he's got the perfect voice were you a fan of the show growing up yeah yeah 100 i mean i was always a fan of firebending so zuko was like my guy wow already how perfect yeah when i found out i booked it it was like it feels i'm i felt like i just booked like a marvel superhero role you know yeah well it's different right like the shang chi role is obviously awesome but it's not like zuko zuko, you're going to be a focal part of this series, obviously. So that's, it's got to feel crazy. It's got to feel surreal. Absolutely. And with like the huge Avatar fandom already. in the past few years, at least on social media. I've seen so many more like memes and people sharing their favorite clips

and actors that were, you know, you didn't realize the voices in the show and stuff. Do you feel the same way? Yeah, I mean, TikTok has also grown within the past couple of years. And I feel like that has to do a lot with, I mean, people being at home on their phones constantly. So everything's just kind of making a comeback.

Yeah, and Avatar is one of those. I'm excited to see this show. I know you can't talk too much about it, home on their phones constantly so everything's just kind of making a comeback yeah and avatar is one of those i'm excited to see this show i know you can't talk too much about it so i'm not going to try to get you for the details because then the studio will come knocking on both of our doors but i'm excited to see this show and i'm excited to see like the rest of uh the build-up to it and all the pictures that are going to come out and stuff like that the trailer so it's going to be very cool you're also in college still right um i will i just finished my summer classes i won't be enrolling oh good for you i'll be busy dude i dropped out to do this job so i'm with you hey there we go and yeah i mean i did those uh you know two years of general education classes at a community college

and then my plan was to transfer up but then this opportunity came along i mean life happened listen i don't think you need it i i think you know that based on your uh your decision making in life but like yeah you're in shang chi and avatar and stuff you don't need college i was gonna say how do you balance that but it's good that you don't have to anymore fuck that yeah um school is school is great i mean i'm i feel like later on i'm gonna have to get back into it just because it's a very solid plan b for life just because this is super unpredictable and you never know what could happen so that's that's very responsible if there's any kids listening you should not listen to my advice you should listen for any martial artist listening. I wanted to ask you

this being a martial artist that got into acting yourself. I know that there are sometimes like scarce career options for people that spend their whole life training in martial arts. You could become a coach or you could become a trainer or you could compete at the high level, but it's hard to make a lot of money doing that. So what advice would you give to martial artists looking to make the transition into something like entertainment? I think one of the best routes to take if you're strictly martial arts is stunts, stunts, martial arts comes in handy so much just because, I mean,

they're constantly, constantly going to be making action movies just because with the technology that we have now and the viewers that like have that interest, it's such a popular genre right now. And the camera work that goes into it, it's just absolutely nuts. So I would say like stunts is a great option. And then, you know, who knows, maybe they'll slip you a line or something like that. I mean, my route into the industry was just my manager finding me on YouTube and was like, hey, do you want to meet? And I was like, I mean, sure. So maybe that's maybe that's advice.

Maybe put your stuff on YouTube, put your stuff on the Internet, get it out there. Yeah. I mean, the more the more people they get to see your face and once you're capable of the better, obviously. That's that's awesome. Now, do you have a get to see your face and once you're capable of the better, obviously. That's awesome. Now, do you have a dream role in your acting career? You're like one day I would like to, and it doesn't need to be a specific character.

It could be like one day I would like to be in a Western or something like that, or a sci-fi movie. Do you have something out there where you're like, man, I would love to tackle that. Cause you've done comedy now, you've done some serious stuff. You've done, you know, a couple you know a couple things now yeah i mean i kind of already checked one off with the zuko um but um i'd say the next one up for me is probably

uh probably a horror yeah i i have no idea what goes into um like the process of for for like an actor at least because i i don't really get too many of those auditions and um i i think it would be so fun so you're like really into trying new things it seems yeah i mean i just want to be as well rounded as possible um with my my acting abilities And I've been working on my craft for quite a bit. So I feel like horror is something that doesn't come my way too often. And I definitely just try to stick my foot in there, you know, see what it's like. Do you have any directors or filmmakers that you're like, Oh my God, it would be so amazing to work with them just because I'm such a big fan.

Taika Waititi for sure. Yeah. I mean, he's one of my favorites in the world right now. Like who doesn't love that guy. Right. And like he can act too. And he's hilarious. I mean, dude's so awesome um but yeah i think in the future i'd really love to work with him um and hopefully you know work on a project together with another with like some also talented actors and things like that yeah i hope you get that opportunity that would be awesome and the final question for you before you were cast in shang chi who was your favorite marvel superhero before shang chi um because i assume it's probably changed now it's got to be shang chi right

yeah see those rings that was pretty nasty it's awesome um this was i i really enjoyed uh quicksilver actually oh wow that's a it's a good goal you didn't go with one of the like obvious iron man captain america you went for a deep cut and i respect it yeah i mean i'm a big fan of speedsters in general so yeah you know seeing him on screen uh skylish is super cool i like that answer that's a good one dallas thank you very much for joining. Congratulations on all the success. I'm looking forward to Avatar.

I love Shang-Chi. If you haven't seen it in theaters yet, people, go see it in theaters. This thing is awesome. The music in it is great. The special effects are crazy on the big screen. So I could not recommend it more. Two thumbs up.

Yes, go do that. I don't know how long it is in theaters for, but watch it while you can. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much, man.