My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 159 - ‘WHAT IF…’? SEASON 1 FINALE RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: October 8, 2021

Robbie and Clem recap the ‘What If…?’ Season One Finale, give their predictions for the future of the show, and rank each and every episode from the series! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to re...ceive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Go to CutsClothing.com/BASEMENT for 15% off the Only Shirt Worth Wearing HelloFresh: Use code 14ROBBIE to receive 14 FREE MEALS at HelloFresh.com/14ROBBIE Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Yeah, just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3Chi and Barstool Sports. I am your host, Robbie Fox, and I am with my main man, Clem, to recap the final episode of What If Season 1. We've made it to the end.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You know, what did Tony Stark say in Endgame? Every journey has an end, right? And this is the end of What If Season 1. It was a very fun season. It was fun recapping it with you. We got KFC on for a lot of the beginning ones. He said apologies. He could not make it today, but he will be back in the future.
Starting point is 00:01:00 My mom's basement. We'll get him for Hawkeye. We'll get him for random episodes here and there. I'm sure there's some random movie that I haven't seen that we could do an episode on before this and hawkeye between this hawkeye i mean that's a good call yeah like i remember we talked about warriors the other day but i do feel like there was a more modern movie that i thought would be a good one for us and the clancy variants to talk about so we'll definitely get it what if the boys made it all the way to the end of the season and had a good ass time doing it got got crazy with the what if shout out all the listeners shout out everyone that submitted uh
Starting point is 00:01:28 their own what ifs and stuff like that and feels good to be here feels good what if tony stark didn't die in episode we got another one bob my guy made it as far as i could tell i mean like they don't really go too deep into it um but he died in like 90 of these shows and that's fucked with it sounds like by the end i was like can we just bring him back and kill him because it didn't feel like a real episode of what if and uh everyone's been tweeting at us i think i don't know if it was um eric voss or someone else did like a what if toady's death is uh um what's the word uh event uh it was a nexus nexus event right yeah or an absolute moment or something like kind of like
Starting point is 00:02:05 with rachel mcadams dying right and i don't know if that's the case but we're not going to be doing a deep dive on that but it feels good it feels good and even seeing the title this episode what if the watcher broke his oath i'm like oh we're getting to that now that is going to happen and pop fox basically called this fucking episode bravo bob yeah i thought we would get the guardians of the multiverse and we did get the guardians of the Multiverse, and we did get the Guardians of the Multiverse. That's what they called them. The big baby got involved. Now, I saw some people asking this.
Starting point is 00:02:29 The whole, what if the Watcher broke his oath? Does that mean there's a universe where the Watcher didn't break his oath? Where he's watching other multiverses in a different multiverse? Bob, do you try to break my brain just so everyone who's listening on the YouTube could just see the crumbles of brain matter falling out of my ear every single time because whoa whoa whoa like three i have three chi brain right now as we're talking about this oh my gosh i'm even just getting to like the tony stark absolute point getting that part of the time and now you're done with the watcher watching himself and then does that watcher then have another Watcher watching him?
Starting point is 00:03:05 If he doesn't break the oath, then that Watcher breaks the oath. Who watches the Watcher? But we made it. We made it to the end of the season. Unless there's a secret episode next week. There could be a secret episode. You never know. You never know.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And there was actually meant to be another episode in this season that we kind of got hints of in this episode. It was what if Gamora defeated Thanos this was apparently an episode that got canned due to COVID and that's why she was like a big part of the finale and not in any of the other episodes she had Thanos's armor she had the infinity crusher that's supposed to crush the stones and yeah we didn't get that it was supposed to be like her and Tony Stark on Nevidalier or whatever, that place where Peter Dinklage was. Okay. So again, talking about the broken brain stuff. Again, I've said this many times.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Getting old, your brain gets worse. Having kids, your brain gets significantly worse immediately. I saw her in the suit and I said, when the fuck did this happen? And I was like, you know what? I couldn't have missed that episode. We've recapped every episode. And honestly, I just straight up was like you know what i couldn't have missed that episode we've recapped every episode and honestly i just straight up was like your dumb brain obviously forgot and like again thanos like thanos and iron man my two guys gamora is sienna's favorite
Starting point is 00:04:13 character i think i'd remember with those three and thanos going down and i'm just like man your brain is really shitty these days i'll still remember when sienna was a newborn i put my coffee in the refrigerator and I put the milk in the coffee mug cabinet. And I was like, holy shit, my brain is shot. It's never been the same since. So it's good to know that that was a Disney thing. Shout out to whoever's in charge of Disney, just straight up fucking mail time. It didn't give a fuck about trying to like rework the episode. It's a cartoon. Nope. We're just going to throw Gamora in there and confuse the living shit out of the audience. Cause Bob, I had no idea what was going on until just now so thank you for that yeah she just showed up she
Starting point is 00:04:49 was just part of it yeah exactly they show her and again I saw the um Neva Khalil or whatever that's my call it never can ever you know I know it's a the matrix and I'm like oh we're going back here man I haven't seen this in forever and then it's just them chilling there as if we're supposed to know very confusing but uh awesome they but awesome. They got to finish that episode. They got to finish that episode. First, let me remind you about our presenting sponsor. It's 3Chi. 3Chi is the industry leader in Delta 8 THC products. I tell you guys each and every week, all of these products are formulated by a biochemist made in the USA with USA grown hemp. And that's right. It's made with hemp, not marijuana. So it's a federally legal version of THC. It's a cousin strain,
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Starting point is 00:06:17 off your order and i also gotta say this i think a lot of people with loki were very upset that the infinity stones meant nothing and they were moving on for them i think other than this episode that they owe us i think we can move on from the infinity stones now right i think we've had our fail like i was like all right guys like we're we're on to kang in the words of bill belichick we're on to kang now thanos and the infinity stones are in the past i love them they're my favorite things in the world it's literally the one thing that i record with right there is the avengers poster with the infinity stones but i think i'm i think i've had my fill of the infinity stones here's the question how'd they get so smooth they were the smoothest they were like infinity pebbles in this that's a great call made this you think ultron like has like a
Starting point is 00:06:57 little thing in his little system where it's those little uh rock tumblers yeah yeah oh man you get a nice smooth rock if i was a robot that'd be oh that's nice yeah top three thing that i would have as if i was my own robot number one is something we will not discuss the family podcast but i think every man would want to do something like that right we've all broken a rib trying to do the old marilyn manson there's a couple of things and then having a nice rock tumbler having a nice smooth rock making the infinity stones like if you have the infinity stones you gotta fucking rock the infinity stones right like thanos had the gauntlet you gotta make that shit look nice so i like to think that he fucking tumbling the infinity stones in a little like 25 dollar like rock tumbler is
Starting point is 00:07:35 a hilarious thought um we can get right into the episode it begins with captain carter the winter soldier so we actually get to see like a Union Jack Winter Soldier outfit, which I thought was very cool. I said last time it might just be the Union Jack flag. These outfits are badass. I'm like, yeah, that's pretty cool. She fights GSP on this ship. And I got to say, GSP looked absolutely nothing like GSP, like nothing like George St. Pierre. It was very weird.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Baratak the Leaper, they gave him like dark hair. They gave him like a mustache. But they do the whole thing. I thought you could fight without the shield. Thought you were like a real person. They do the whole fight and then she gets plucked out of her universe by the Watcher. And that's the beginning of this episode is the Watcher going to the various episodes that we've seen and plucking everyone out of their universes to help guard the multiverse. So he gets T'Challa who had been rescuing Peter Quill from Ego. He gets Thor, who is fighting Ultron drones in Las Vegas. He gets Killmonger, who is about to battle Pepper and Shuri.
Starting point is 00:08:30 They're about to have like a confrontation there. We meet Gamora and your guy, Tony Stark, does. He doesn't die, but he kind of gets disrespected by like not coming along. He's like, whoa, fucking he gets up and they're like, you're not important here, buddy. And she has Thanos' armor and the Infinity Crusher. And this is important because the initial plan, she says, is to get the Infinity Stones
Starting point is 00:08:49 in this Infinity Crusher and we're going to destroy him like that. Later, that's not able to happen, but that was the initial plan. So that's almost like the, in Endgame when they have like Scott Lang's van. That's what we're all going towards
Starting point is 00:09:01 right now. So that's the start of it. It was a long start. I got to say, I liked this episode. It was good. We'll rank all the episodes at the end when we're all going towards right now. So that's the, uh, the start of it. It was a long start. I gotta say, I liked this episode. It was good. We'll rank all the episodes at the end when we were done talking about it. It felt more like a better conclusion to the series than it did a singular episode. You know, like half the episode was just like, Hey, you've been chosen. Hey, you've been chosen. Hey, you've been chosen. Oh yeah. I remember him from last week. Oh yeah. I remember him from three weeks ago. Oh yeah. I remember him from three weeks ago. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I remember him too. And then by the time they fought, it was kind of just like getting everyone, fighting. That's it. You said it best. I liked it. Didn't love it by any means. The fact that this and the fact that you kind of got my brain prepared for this as a possibility helped.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But I never was like, oh, I want to see this guy again. I want to see, you know, want to see you know party thor again and stuff like that i did want to see star lord t'challa which did they say there was actually going to be like an animated series if that came out this week yeah that that they were apparently going to do a spin-off of just star lord t'challa which is a shame because i feel like out of everyone from what if maybe other than captain carter but even with captain carter they just really followed the Captain America storyline. So that was like,
Starting point is 00:10:06 it is what it is. That was the one that I feel like that could have been its own series. You involve Howard, the dog at Seth green and they're like, that could be something big. That's had like, it felt a little deeper. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I didn't even talk about the time. Like it felt like they felt alive to me. And it is something that I think they could have definitely done a deeper dive on, but I mean, it fucking sucks. It is what it is. And again, this is coming from a guy. I. But, I mean, it fucking sucks. It is what it is. And, again, this is coming from a guy I just wanted to see. Happy Thanos just being in our life every week.
Starting point is 00:10:29 It would have been so delightful. The big baby just showing up. I kind of like when there's the guy who's supposed to be in the background and people are, like, pointing him out. I dug that aspect of it. Also, absolutely brutal fucking beat for people named bernard and people that work in accounting and then people that name bernard that work in accounting who it's like yo if your name is bernard or you're in accounting you have a tough life because you probably get clowned for one of those two if you're double they fucking double whammied you which one do you think's harder
Starting point is 00:10:58 being a bernard your whole life and shout out all the bernards out there all the way bernie bernie's always good to having your crew it's hard having a bernard your whole life and shout out all the bernards out there bernie bernie's always good to have in your crew it's hard having a bernard and compared with bernie and then especially uh andy bernard too so you're kind of in the nard dog if i guess you could be in the nard dog that's good or if you're an accountant like what do you think is like if i told you right now we're gonna hang out with someone named bernard and we're gonna hang out with an accountant who do you think is more fun i'll be honest i'm taking'm taking Bernard and hoping we get Bernie Williams in there. Burn, baby, burn. I feel like if you get the right Bernard, 10 out of 10 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You are chanting. You get the right Bernie, yeah. You're in business. Yeah. You're chanting burn, baby, burn a thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like a herb. I could could see like a bernie in the herb group from wandavision perfect perfect way to put that i also by the way i i want to see like what if herb was the hero of wandavision make that episode what if miss fisto's ass actually appeared yeah um i was kind of surprised that the watcher like didn't takeora, go out, and then go, oh yeah, by the way, go back, pop back in, slit Tony Stark's neck, and then moved on to the next scene.
Starting point is 00:12:11 That's still the biggest subset of this entire series. Party Thor, I'm going to say, I don't remember how I felt about the episode at the time. He's kind of like the, he's like a cooler, more alive version, but I kind of think I prefer Fat Thor more. And he's like a cooler like more alive version but i kind of think i prefer fat thor more and he's like a a fancier version of fat thor you know what i mean where it's like the same kind of jokes he's saying it as like this good looking guy instead of a guy who looks a little more like me i'm just like fuck you thor get out of my face man at least fat thor was
Starting point is 00:12:40 relatable in terms of he had anxiety he was having panic attacks i was like whoa i kind of get you thor you're nervous about going in front of you know your former love or your mom because you're back in time you're fat now jock thor stunk i'm gonna just come out and say it when we get to our rankings later only child thor was my last that was my least favorite episode of what if i didn't hate it which says a lot about this series i got through that episode and i went all right it was another what if but that definitely was my least favorite. So that, the stupid tattoo where he had like the microscope or whatever he has, it's science, like cheesy, just cheesy. And let me also say this.
Starting point is 00:13:16 When you're in the basement and you're, if you're in your mom's basement, jocks aren't usually getting a lot of love in the conversation down there. They're like, fuck that guy, man. Fuck that guy, that little blonde hair with the muscles. He thinks he's so cool. He's fucking Natalie Portman. Oh, I'm so cool. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Like, I was, she was my lab partner. She touched my leg once by mistake. You know, she thinks she really liked me. That's what's going on in the basement. So fuck you, Party Thor. Jock's not welcome, unless you're a listener, in which case then you're like the cool jock that hangs out with the nerds.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Then you are welcome. That's kind of, you know, the 21 Jump Street thing. By the end channing tatum's pretty cool guy to jonah hill uh but thor party thor actually uh accidentally summons ultron early and this is like where it's like of course he does um we get this crazy fight strange put protection spells on all of them this was the one thing where i was like are they introducing these cool looking protection spells that kind of look like you know coats of armor for doctor strange in the multiverse of madness for spider-man no way home is this something we're going to see in live action in the future kind of reminds me of the week before rise of skywalker when in the mandalorian
Starting point is 00:14:17 we were introduced to force healing and they had baby yoda do a force healing and then like the week later ray was doing it in the Rise of Skywalker so I could see that being a thing um the zombies get resurrected at one point we see like zombie Scarlet Witch to distract Ultron they get back to Natasha's reality at one point they get her to join the fight and they realize they can't destroy the stones with the infinity crusher because they don't come from this reality so that does go back to kind of what we talked about in Loki with the infinity stones in the draw why they were you know just piled up there it goes back to what we talked about in the marvel versus dc comics where i think it was um who was it that got the someone got the
Starting point is 00:14:57 infinity gauntlet and then they were like oh it's dark side he got the infinity gauntlet and it didn't work he snapped because it was in the dc universe so natasha infects ultron with zola this is what we kind of expected to see after we saw the episode last week and then killmonger and zola both make plays for the stones killmonger kind of turns on his team in a very black panther way like he was in that movie he's like let's use the stones for good let's you know but he has kind of evil intentions through that zola of course just wants to become powerful because he's fucking he's a nazi and strange supreme realizes they need to separate the stones not necessarily defeat these enemies he realizes their true purpose it's almost like that when he makes the one to tony stark like this is it
Starting point is 00:15:40 oh my god here it is so he has to trap z Killmonger, and Ultron in a pocket dimension, pocket universe. Little tiny thing. That's another thing I could see coming up in the movies. I could see him trapping his villains or a villain coming out of that or something. And there it is. The Watcher's like, alright, you're going to have to fucking watch these guys. You're going to have to become basically a new Watcher. And he's like, yeah, I got nothing but time, brother, so I'm'm with you for the long haul and we did get a post-credit scene or a mid-credit scene i should say you like to call it a mid-credit scene be right about it and it's something we expected from the first episode something i said i think i wanted in the first
Starting point is 00:16:17 episode i was like oh it would have been so cool if they would have made steve rogers this universe's winter soldier and i think that's what we're going to get in the post-credits scene because they take Peggy Carter to the Iron Stomper. Was that what it's called? The Hydra Stomper. The Hydra Stomper, yep. It's Natasha. She says someone's inside.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And it's like, oh, shit, she's about to reunite with Steve. This is going to be a whole thing. Good episode, like I said. Not a great episode. It was a good conclusion. Wrap everything up in a bow. I think I would have liked it better if you would have said eight episodes, one hour finale. And this was combined with last week.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I agree with that. I saw the arrow on the ground with the green. I'm like, oh, that means something. I couldn't remember. It was Zola. And I actually liked that thing. I like when things are so bad in a comic book storyline that the bad guys are helping the good guys. Like, yo, I want to take over the world, but there ain't going to be no world left unless we team up.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I always love that side. We've talked about that before. Like, both of us are big fans of that. I think X-Men 2, when Magneto has to team up with the X-Men, all of that stuff is, like, right up our alley. Yep. And even kind of having Killmonger as a bad guy, even though he – I know he was supposed to be a good guy, but then he's Killmonger. Yeah, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:17:27 When they plucked him and got him on this team, I was like, he's going to turn on the team at some point, right? Because he fucking killed Tony Stark. This Killmonger is the most evil one. Yo, don't try to sneak some sus motherfuckers past us, Disney. Our sus radars have been up for months now. So we're damn near a year. So don't even try to do that kind of
Starting point is 00:17:45 shit check off squid monster knew that thing was coming back after like the second time its second appearance in the show once uh we kind of got a glimmer of it i believe last episode i was like he's coming back and sure enough that played a big role there um i also realized i realized just looking at the guys like i was trying to figure out a halloween costume the last few weeks i thought we were going to be the Bluey family. And then that fell through. The Bluey family would be such a good family costume. And it's probably like maybe the last year we can do it.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Sienna's in second grade now. Pretty soon she's going to want to dress like her friends or go off on her own. Breaking news on the My Mom's Basement. You guys get to scoop over Podfathers where this is usually announced. The Clem family has come out. And you guys, you get to scoop, Bob, because it is straight out of the basement. Let me get the actual name of this thing. Spidey and his amazing – okay.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So I've talked about this, I think, in the past. Disney+, Spidey and His Amazing Friends. Incredible fucking cartoon for kids to watch. It's like any parent who are listening knows PJ Mask. It's a crack to these kids. They just watch it over and over. They basically have taken PJ mask, put them in Spider-Man outfits and made it better.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Cause it's fucking, you know, Marvel and AJ is Spider-Man. He's obsessed with Spider-Man. Sienna is a ghost spider, AKA spider. Gwen miles Morales. We do not unfortunately have anyone in the house that could be miles right now,
Starting point is 00:19:03 but miles is, is beloved in this house. Yeah, exactly. And they know Rhino. They know Green Goblin. They know all their different, you know, Hulk is a recurring character, Black Panther, all that kind of stuff. So they're the two Spider-Men. And we have to be the parents.
Starting point is 00:19:19 We're in as well. I am the Hulk, and wifey is going to be Captain Marvel. So it's big times here at the Clem family. Wow, I can't wait to see that. hulk and wifey is going to be captain marvel so it's it's big times here at the clem family yeah i mean since you since you revealed the scoop i know i've said this on the podcast before but we have the costumes confirmed me and my girlfriend do loki and sylvie so look out for the pictures of that once halloween rolls around everybody because i think we're gonna nail that one and anybody who doesn't know lady fox let me just tell you you, she pulls off an incredible. So she looks just like, so I've never met her in person,
Starting point is 00:19:46 but just seeing pictures. I'm like, yo, that's silver. She's got the platinum blonde hair. Like, I think it's, I think it's going to be some fire Instagram pictures.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I'm a little worried about you. Honestly, Bob, I've never met her and I don't want to call your girl the S word, but like, it seems a little, yeah, love is a dagger.
Starting point is 00:20:03 But as I was watching this, I'm like, shit, I could even have been the watcher i don't know how it made my eyes into that like glowing white fucking color but i definitely could have pulled off the watcher the big baby that would have been a big hit in the basement yeah yeah that would have gone over the heads of every single person whose house i stopped at it but i would have been a legend in the basement guardians of the multiverse felt a
Starting point is 00:20:22 little try hard right yeah i mean that hit the ear like a car crash like come on i guarantee you man that fucking watcher he's seen like nick fury and the name like the avengers he's probably seen the x-men he's like those names are so cool guardians of the galaxy and he's like hey guys i got it guardians of the multiverse and it was just like the record scratched right and it was just crickets chirping in the background because that was awful. He should have stole a name from a different multiverse that everyone didn't know about. He should have stole a cooler name. Suicide Squad.
Starting point is 00:20:50 They could have been like, oh, that sounds awesome. We're all just doing this. It's one of the, if you've got to face Ultron with the Infinity Stones, we're absolutely fucked. But one part about this episode I did like is I liked how they were exchanging stories from different universes.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like, oh, in my universe, you're this. And in my universe, you're this. And in my universe, you're that. And they kind of be like, Oh, this stuff. Like they dropped Natasha off in a universe where she didn't die or that she did die.
Starting point is 00:21:11 They're like this universe lost her Natasha. I don't think it was our Marvel universe. They dropped her off in though, because I don't think that was like, Hey, black widow is back in the MCU. Pretty sure it was a different universe. No,
Starting point is 00:21:22 I was thinking the same thing. And, but there was a moment where you realize it can't be this universe I can't remember well I mean it just can't be because it wouldn't he's it's young Captain America there's a bunch of other things I don't remember I'm sure that if anyone's listening there's probably one or two things that give away that it's not this universe but yeah they lost their widow and then they just kind of plop her back in also don't don't call me the h word but i do feel like there was like a little bit of sexual weird sexual chemistry i thought i felt between not natasha and captain carter but she's like
Starting point is 00:21:50 maybe if his name was steve and it was kind of like this like i know bffs it felt a little more than bffs it's all kind of i thought you're gonna say don't call me hitler oh no no this word out of your head we've already talked about that enough with ken jack and bob we've already you know talking the h man there are you, we've already, you know. We're talking the H-man there. Are you rooting for Zola here? You were rooting for Zola from day one. You were hoping he was going to win it. See, I thought that when he made Ultron green, I thought that was cool, but I wasn't rooting for him.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The thing I like most about this episode, though, is I thought it was like a very cool fight scene. It was like over the top, but that felt very comic book-y. Everything about it fell out of a comic book and it's nothing i don't think you could do in a million years with a live action movie is pull off the kind of like crazy shit with the powers and all that kind of stuff that i thought was cool yet it also gave you like the like you're jumping it's like oh get the stone up do this do that uh and again i think i've had my fill of the infinity stones and that's coming from a diehard infinity stone stand infinity stone stand that's really hard to say uh Infinity Stone stand. Infinity Stone stand.
Starting point is 00:22:45 That's really hard to say. The zombies coming down. I definitely geeked out at that. I thought that was a cool twist. And when he just blew them up, I was like, yeah, you fucking idiot. They're zombies. Like that's nothing. And then I saw Scarlet Witch, Zombie Scarlet Witch,
Starting point is 00:22:58 and I thought we were going to get more out of her. I thought she was going to really fuck him up and then see that it's vision. And I thought there could have been something deeper with that. I it on corona if you want but i thought they could have went a little a little further with that then again she has a zombie she probably doesn't fucking like she's not doesn't have like deep thoughts and feelings and all that stuff and then yeah the the last line i had was watcher he's pretty much the guy that calls for delivery like a block away from his house and then like doesn't get up makes makes the guy like bring it into his house. If he has to like,
Starting point is 00:23:26 dude, like strange, you're going to make strange, do all this shit for you. You're the fucking watcher. It's in your name. Yeah. You'll just break your oath whenever it fucking suits you.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I'll tell you, I think I have a beef with the watcher. Now the big baby's on my fucking head. I'm kind of, yeah, I'm kind of with you. Like even at the end when he's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:42 you're going to have to watch that little ball. It's like, well, you're watching all these other multiverses. So why don't you just watch one more? It's's like yeah you're gonna have to watch that little ball it's like well you're watching all these other multiverses so why don't you just watch one more it's like if you're already babysitting what's one more kid yep a thousand percent i'm with you on that i can fly in this room it's driving their mouse i will say too i know that like you like the mid credits i would have liked that that mid credits as or you could have kept the mid credits there or put it in the end when they're bringing the whole different universes.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I really wanted to see that strange in Spider-Man. Like we get to like have a little hint. We got to admit. We're part of the problem. We're setting our expectations high. I was like they're going to jump into live action. We're going to see Hayley Atwell and the Captain Carter suit. And they're like, no, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:24 We're setting up season two of What If if like the show you're watching right now stop running redditizing this goddamn series of ruining it for yourself this is a perfectly fine show but speaking of speaking of like the redditizing of shows or whatever no no show had that more than wandavision i feel like and before we rank our episodes we got some wandavision news to talk about this week. Fellas, the sport of business means demanding excellence from your craft and wardrobe. Right now, I'm in my own apartment. I was going to say in my mom's basement. I'm basically in my mom's basement, even though I'm in my own apartment. It's the same kind of vibe in here. And I'm wearing a raggedy old Star Wars shirt, which is great. You're allowed to do that in the comfort of your own home. But if you want a versatile shirt that has changed the game on men's fashion, you got to
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Starting point is 00:25:57 versatile. Wear it to the gym, on a date, to dinner, to a wrestling show, to a movie premiere, wherever you want to wear Cuts clothing, it works. I promise you. Agatha Harkness apparently has a spinoff in the works. It's coming. They've signed Catherine Han to a big multi-million dollar deal or something. She deserves that money. I feel like that's a rookie overperforming in their first year,
Starting point is 00:26:20 and then you get that big contract, that big payday. I'm excited. I'm with ken jack when he said he quote tweeted and he said i'm a little bit worried they'll overexpose the character if it's just a show about her but i am excited because i mean everything we've seen of her thus far gives us reason to be excited i just hope it's not and it probably is going to be i don't love the 1600s era stuff i don't want to see how she got to the stake and how she killed her mother, the betrayal, the sisters and stuff. I don't need to.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I saw that in the flashback. I hope it's modern day Agatha. Yeah, I'm with you. I think that was kind of everyone's initial thoughts because that was my initial thoughts. And you just know how everyone's going to react to news like this that impacts a bunch of people, especially the nerdier side of things where we always kind of go in like – either we're like, oh, my God, they're bringing them back, or oh, my God, this is going to be a fucking train wreck. And I feel like it was going to go to that.
Starting point is 00:27:15 She's like, perfectly fine. That's a flex player. We're talking fantasy football talk. That's a flex player. You're putting her as your RB1. It's like, all right, now this fucking Agatha here. But this is what I have to say, and I truly believe it. Take a breath.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Take a deep breath. It's going to be all right. A, we trust the flaggy no matter what when it's all said and done. There is a giant whiteboard. All right? I don't know where it's at. I'm going to say Orlando. Could be LA.
Starting point is 00:27:37 It's going to be LA. Let's be honest. Marvel is much more of an LA place. Probably LA, yeah. It's in LA. That whiteboard is so fucking big big and there's so many characters that they have to think about the marvel universe not the mcu the mu and that universe has so many characters they have to start weaving in here and the x-men are going to be the big ones fantastic
Starting point is 00:27:55 but there's little ones that they have to sprinkle in as well including that motherfucker mephisto and they can't just do it through all the movies and stuff like that they have to do it through shows and it's not going to just be shows that are after A-list characters or B-list characters, which let's be honest, everyone kind of was like with WandaVision, they were mech because it was two characters. Agatha's like three tiers below that. Even with like how great Catherine Han was in her role and how great that song was, she's still like a mech character.
Starting point is 00:28:22 She's just going to be like the the title character this thing there's gonna probably be at least multiple hero villains or whatever involved with this the how do you think about the 1600s thing you can't do that you have to have her right in her current state it's gonna be a little like don't get too weird with it because i thought those first two episodes of wandavision were a little too much of a reach i thought it was a little too crazy of a jump again that wasn't supposed to be the first series of the Disney+, right? That was supposed to be like the third one.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I think we could have eased into that a little better. But I like it as a dark comedy. They're going to do an awesome job casting because that's all they've fucking done. And we know that between Doctor Strange, Spider-Man and the Multiverse, Shang-Chi, all that kind of stuff. By the way, shout out to me, Shang-Chi. I just say it's Shang-Chi. I say
Starting point is 00:29:08 it the right way. I've trained myself to do that so quickly. I am really impressed with myself how I'm saying it the right way. There's going to be a lot of weird answers. That's something about how great that movie is, huh? Yeah, it does. It does. And then not to mention WandaVision and kind of where we see Wanda leave off, there's going to be a lot of
Starting point is 00:29:24 magic. There's going to be a lot of weird shit they have to develop the characters and the different probably like you said like the different things the pocket universes they're gonna have to develop a lot of that shit like for this the rest of this phase and then the future kang is gonna be in some weird ass shit i can imagine fucking time jumps multiverse jumps this guy was a fucking egyptian pharaoh and then he's some dude from the future i don't know how that's gonna be possible we need fucking a witch to come in and kind of you know make magic a little more real we have dragons now there's gonna be a lot of different things that are gonna happen so like just embrace it give it go in with an open mind if it stinks and i'm talking stinks not be like meh if it stinks it'll be the first mcu thing
Starting point is 00:30:02 that has stunk in years right so it's like let's just like take a break here dark comedy i like we have hawkeye's gonna be a christmas show we have dr strange and the multiverse of man it's gonna be hard let's throw some dark comedy in there let's get fucking let's get like i agree a couple like oh they went there let's get crazy with it marvel let's have fun with it and you know make jokes that go above the kids heads but there's a girl that like killed a dog you know like she's dark she's super fucking dark let's get fun with it and make jokes that go above the kids' heads. There's a girl that killed a dog. She's dark. She's super fucking dark. Let's get dark with it.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Good. Well, very well put, Bob. Kids kidnapped, all that shit. Yeah. She haunted some poor girl who went through the worst trauma of her trauma-filled life. I guess the parents dying was worse than this. Nonetheless, just a lot of bad shit going on, and this woman tortured her so like do you think we'll hear agatha all along again will that be like the theme song or the credit song or something maybe they'll remix it to different lyrics because
Starting point is 00:30:52 that was very like wandavision specific but it was such a hit i'm gonna all right i'll make my prediction now as it's still in development nonetheless so remember this october 7th 2021 i call this we're gonna get like a little, like a couple notes in the background. I'm kind of like, you know, when Anakin's walking, you hear like the, the Imperial March kind of like. We'll hear that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, that to this day,
Starting point is 00:31:16 the greatest piece of advertising I've ever seen for a movie was Phantom Menace when they have little Jake, what's his name? Jake Lloyd. Yeah. And it's the shadow and it's the darth vader shadow still the greatest thing i've ever seen it'll be very similar that but like one one millionth the scope because it's agatha harkness versus darth vader um but yeah i i i think we're gonna get that i definitely think we're gonna get some sort of a note and
Starting point is 00:31:39 do we get mephisto that's the other, I mean, we could magic's involved. The big, you got it. Like, what if we were just a little bit off about WandaVision and it was about, you know, this was the other episode of coronavirus never happened. They were going to have Mephisto.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I told you guys, well, they said WandaVision was a limited series. Maybe this is their way of like continuing a WandaVision esque universe. Who knows? Cause they can't do WandaVision season two, obviously. Exactly. And WandaVision, I think, was important to Doctor Strange and other shit
Starting point is 00:32:09 where they couldn't just be like, China's going to be like, nope, WandaVision's not allowed here. But if they're like, nope, Agatha, whatever the fuck the show is, isn't allowed here because you have Mephisto, they're like, all right, cool, get the fuck. Fuck them. We've thrown 10X since WandaVision was there. So bring me the big M.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Bring me the big M. I want to see his dumb ass. I've never heard of him until this stupid show and all the Reddit stuff. But just give me fucking Mephisto. Come on. Give him to us. All right, let's do our rankings. I'm going to go from, there's nine episodes.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I'm going to go nine to one. So worst to best. My nine is Only Child Thor, episode seven. Like I said, not a huge fan of this. not a huge fan of the way thor is acting not a huge fan of pre taika thor all of that not horrible though so it says a lot about how good of a series what if was number eight killmonger saves tony stark episode six we talked about this on the show at the time i think it was my least favorite it was just a little boring couldn't follow they they packed a lot of stuff in their episode this this one is surprising to me because i liked it a lot when i first saw it uh number seven of my rankings is episode one captain
Starting point is 00:33:14 carter wow after i've seen everything else i'm kind of like yeah that one like kind of just stayed within the confides of that movie everything that happened was just captain america the first avenger so we didn't get to see a whole lot of new stuff it was just you know they kind of gender swapped it so that one's there then i would put the finale the one we just recapped as my number six my number five i put last week's episode ultron gaining up to this level i really like that i like that a little better than the finale and And then the top four, the Mount Rushmore, if you will. Number four, I have zombies, Marvel zombies. Loved that one. Number three, T'Challa becomes Star-Lord.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Number two, and I know this was maybe controversial when I said it at the time, still is my number two, the murder mystery episode. I really loved it. I'm a murder mystery guy, I think. I loved Knives Out, all that. I liked Hank Pym at the end when he had those dark eyes he looked so evil and number one without a shadow of a doubt for me is what if dr strange you know lost his heart right that was instead of his hands he lost his heart that episode was everything i wanted out of a what if they took the universe and collapsed it they destroyed it dr strange was fucked up and scary looking they had rachel mcadams like you
Starting point is 00:34:24 said you know it's a true absolute point that could and scary looking. They had Rachel McAdams. Like you said, you know, it's a true absolute point that could drive you wild watching Rachel McAdams die over and over again. So that was my number one, really a good series. I would say, what if season one, I'm given a solid B.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah. Yeah. I'll give it. All right. All right. We'll do, we'll go back to our, our original rankings here.
Starting point is 00:34:43 If it's a fast food item, what would you say? What if it's – it could be any fast food, any different restaurant. We're not going to limit it to one. What are you going to give it as? That's a really good question. It's got to be something I'm not going to get every time, but I'm going to go for once in a while because I like that.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yep. I'll give you mine. So you think I'll give you mine. McDonald's snack wrap. It's a wrap. Yeah. It's not, it's like great complimentary piece. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I don't want to like just get that in fries and that's my meal. You can't do that. I think you got the snack wrap is if you're extra hungry, if I'm extra in the mood for Marvel, I'll throw on maybe a, a what if, but it's not going to carry its own, but it's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:35:20 I'm satisfied. I'm very happy. You could, they mix it up. There's different sauces you can add. You can go grilled. Grilled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They got they mix it up. There's different sauces you can add. You can go grilled. If you're a little healthy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. Yeah. They got to bring those back. Those have been gone since COVID. So I didn't, I didn't realize that. I, so I did realize that.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Cause I remember going around the time when I think we're all in some pretty dark days when the pandemic first happened and they started taking away shit like the snack wrap and you're just like, the world is ending right now. What the fuck? Yeah. And, and when McDonald's had that announcement the other day and they, it like the world is ending away what the fuck yeah and and uh when mcdonald's had that announcement the other day and they it was all for the mcrib which i honestly
Starting point is 00:35:50 thought was just on the menu at this point because it's come back and left and it's it's honestly for the people that are still on the internet being like you know making pizza roll jokes right it's like that the mcrib was a funny thing in like 2015 or it was a big deal it's like bring back bacon i love bacon like the memes yeah it's like oh geez the bacon the zombie stuff right the zombies was a good thing it's like either bring back the snack wrap or bring back mcdonald's monopoly i don't care if it's rigged don't give a fuck bring back one of those two and it was it's a good documentary though the mcdonald's monopoly documentary is fucked up that was right around when corona like broke out too and it's like millions we were having some fun with it and then it was like next thing you know we're all watching
Starting point is 00:36:28 tiger king and fucking stuck in our house there's a wild transition there it's so crazy i'm gonna go with this fast food item i'm gonna go with the taco bell cinnamon twists because you know what are you gonna add them onto every meal you get a taco bell probably not are they enjoyable when you get them yeah are they gonna change your world they enjoyable when you get them? Yeah. Are they going to change your world? Are you going to be like, these are the greatest things I've ever had? No, they're just a little cinnamon twists. They're good though.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Every time they're good. You say, yeah, those are good. Those were worth adding onto my meal. Tiny. They were short. You know, you don't take a long time to eat them. So I don't know. I think snack wrap and cinnamon twists.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I think that's perfect. Cause yeah, even adding, it's like another like eight minutes worth of credits right and then yeah so it's very but like the feeling i get in my stomach like the little happy feeling i get when i see cinnamon twists on the menu or when i see you know what a new what if is out or just what if in general like the comic books it's like the same like oh i'm just happy it's a little warm feeling yeah yes i got you i feel you on that uh my my rankings are a different. I had Killmonger last. I just didn't never... Maybe it's because they really murdered the fuck out of Tony Stark, but I thought it was going to be a big part of it.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Serial Killer was next. The Pym one, the Hank Pym one, because I'm not a murder... I am a murder mystery guy, but it has to be done a certain way. Like, Knives Out I loved. And again, I think that speaks to what I was talking about with the dark comedy for the agatha show i think if they do it right and they're going to do it right they're
Starting point is 00:37:49 going to cast right they're going to get the right writers and directors which like the writer i believe is the guy from wandavision right so that guy's going to be the director i think oh wow yeah so that guy's going to be whoever is in charge of that is going to be fine but the serial killer one followed by zombies again not a big zombie movie guy but i appreciated like how it was uh party boy thor give me fat thor instead captain car uh i know i'm gonna i'm gonna put the finale finale next uh just because i do think there were some flat parts captain carter i actually liked how they gave us the like a another version of iron man which i would have never seen coming and they named it the hydra stomper ultron winning but i do think like you know you could tear those the bottom three are part of their own tier the next couple are their own next three of their own tier i do think dr
Starting point is 00:38:33 strange is my two t'challa starling one and i think like those are on their own tier by themselves those are you know those are your christian mccaffrey and uh ezekiel elliot will keep bringing it back to fantasy football shit. Fuck it. We're bringing Saquon back in the mix. He looked great last week. Saquon and Christian McCaffrey, those are your top two. They're kind of in their own realm.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Strange was much more emotional, which I thought was great, and went a bunch of different ways. But T'Challa's Star-Lord, the fact they almost had an entire series about that guts me. I thought that would have been a lot of fun even it was like five episodes you know james gunn would have gotten involved you know it would have been like a really good series so just more happy thanos like you said would have been worth the five episodes yeah and again chad was just hearing that voice you know
Starting point is 00:39:18 and he's just yeah calming voice yeah exactly just hearing him talk to all these different people would have been so awesome so yeah another reason why that fucking death is absolutely gut-wrenching. So yeah, T'Challa, Strange, and I guess Ultron, one of my top three. But again, three is irrelevant at this point. It's just those top two. Cutting off the pod one more time to tell everyone about America's number one meal kit. It's HelloFresh. I use this stuff each and every week.
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Starting point is 00:41:09 guardians of the multiverse i think hayley atwell captain carter i still think maybe she was in the background of that uh first loki episode who knows they could be thinking of something weird like waldron never answered that dead on when the movie boy likes them so like who knows he could have something on that whiteboard up his sleeve other guardians of the multiverse i don't think we'll get party thor i don't think we'll get who knows we might get evil killmonger but he's in that pocket uh he's in that pocket universe so he'd have to come back strange supreme i think we get in uh dr strange in the multiverse of madness i think strange supreme and uh or misguided dr strange as they called him in like some of the closed captioning and hayley atwell as captain carter i think would
Starting point is 00:41:51 be the the two misguided i wonder like what points of my life where they've called me like misguided club where i just lost my way and they're like yep he's starting to go towards the misguided side of it as soon as i uh declared myself Team KFC, a narrator came over and said, misguided Robbie Fox walked into Barstool Radio with Dave Portnoy. Sorcerer Supreme, I think, if it happens. That's like a lock, right? A lock, yeah. That's by far the most likely.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That's minus 1,000 if the Barstool Sportsbook. If you wanted to responsibly gamble on the Barstool Sportsbook, please go to BarstoolSportsbook.com. Shout out Penn. And then. The only issue with Captain Carter, and I swear she's going to come into the universe somewhere, is where do you put her? Like, what does she come in during? Is she a Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Is she a Secret Wars? Does she come back for Secret Wars? I'm not necessarily sure where she fits, but I think she's going to fit somewhere. Yeah. I'll be. If Strange comes in and they've already opened the portal for that. I don't, I'm not necessarily sure where she fits, but I think she's going to fit somewhere. Oh yeah. I'll be, I'll if, if strange comes in and they've already opened the portal for that, they open the gate.
Starting point is 00:42:50 If she doesn't come at some point, I'd be surprised. And then my third isn't even someone who's in this, but I, I just feel like sure he's going to end up being the next Ironman. I just have that gut thing. It's something that's just, I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:43:02 I didn't get a sneak peek at the light. She got in trouble this week so that actually what did you see any of that she's apparently on the black panther set spreading like anti-vaccine views which like whatever but like she's apparently pushing it very heavily onto other people on set and that's where it becomes an issue telling people what to do but yeah there's like an article in the Hollywood Reporter about it today. So she might be fumbling that bag. Now I'm saying like everyone's agent should just like have like a 20 minute.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Her agent dropped her actually. Oh, there we go. Well, I'm saying every agent before, like when they have their client be like, hey, listen, we're going to tell you the story of Gina Carano. And just be like, listen, if you have views, you can have them. But like, just realize they might affect you, which then affects us. And we're not, none of us are making money from this golden cash cash cow we're able to milk for basically the rest of our lives um i guess they could just switch the i guess no i'm thinking what if well they are doing the iron heart show
Starting point is 00:43:54 with like re re williams i think her name is oh that's right so you can make that iron heart girl or you could do iron lad with a kid from iron man 3 okay yep and the the killmonger thing did hammer one thing home we've talked about it before hashtag stop killing your villains marvel all right like give them the darth vader spinning out in their spaceship and leave it for the future like i don't need to see the only time you feel like you need to see that you could say we didn't find a body you could say we didn't see like a dead he kind of like they threw him into the thing of killmonger and i don't know black panther survived that so maybe he's out there somewhere seriously wound him set him to a deep part of space freeze his ass there's like a million ways you cannot kill
Starting point is 00:44:32 your villains because and again i i don't know enough about black panther know how high kill monitor was on his list but i feel like we've killed a lot of pretty decent villains so far and marvel has plenty of others that are probably going to be introduced through the Agatha show and many more. That whiteboard has a ton of them on there. But let's just stop killing them, all right? Just stop killing your villains, Marvel. That's all I'm asking. What if we got from 480 Otis?
Starting point is 00:44:54 He said, what if Disney never bought Star Wars? I thought this one was very interesting because there's a little bit of revisionist history when it comes to Disney buying Star Wars. People seem to think that Disney took Star Wars off of George Lucas' hands and announced on their own, we're making three new Star Wars movies. These are going to be our Star Wars movies. We're rebooting it. We're bringing it back. And that's not the case. George Lucas was actually planning on bringing it back before he sold to disney and it became such a workload for him that he was like i'm gonna look for an investor and give my ideas for episode 7 8 9 to someone like that he wanted
Starting point is 00:45:31 it to be disney he got it to be disney he gave them a good deal 4.2 billion and they wound up making the force awakens the last jedi and the rise of skywalker without a lot of his ideas he got upset about that he said he felt like he sold like his baby to slave owners it was all ugly thing they kind of made up since then i do think if george lucas didn't sell star wars to disney he would have made his force awakens i think it would have been called something else episode star wars episode seven blah blah blah and it would have been very very very similar to the last jedi the last jedi followed a lot of his general outlines i would say of kira this jedi who wound up being ray going to a deserted island and finding luke skywalker and luke skywalker
Starting point is 00:46:19 being a bit of a hermit not agreeing to train her right away but then coming around to it and there was this jedi hunter that was trying to get old jedi artifacts like dorf vader's helmet that became kylo ren so there were a lot of similar elements i think it might have caused george lucas to be in this ultimate like nerd hatred realm of if he followed up the prequels the last thing he did with a movie that was like the last jedi was very divisive in the internet age jesus listen i'm happy george didn't do that just for his own sanity yeah again like we said last week if they had made like empire strikes back today we find a million things to hate about it even though it's a fucking masterpiece so it's probably for the best in the end it now makes perfect sense that george lucas had the last jedi planned out like that because it's just like the prequels where you're just like what the fuck
Starting point is 00:47:07 was the point of that movie nope nope we're not doing last jedi hatred we're not doing it we've moved past it i the last jedi i have to say this about it it taught me a very valuable lesson it's that it's it's like the dress you could both look at the dress you see a different color when the sopranos came out you, a lot of people hated it. Some people loved it. I enjoyed it. I didn't love it. I didn't hate it.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I enjoyed it. It was entertaining to me. And I was like, you know what? That's all it has to be. We don't have to go into debate about it. Today, I tweeted out Macintosh apples are my favorite apples. And I'm like, and if you disagree, you simply have the right to your opinion. Let's not even do this anymore online.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We've done this for how many years i've waited about the last jedi in so long because it's been so it's like so like you don't even want to do it because if you do it you have 50 mentions immediately oh did ryan johnson ruin star wars you ruined my childhood ruin this it's like you can't ruin shit the mandalorian's like the best star wars shit we've gotten since disney and it came after the last jedi so everyone shut the fuck up yep the last jedi existed it's out there if you didn't like it like it's a shame but like i hate not being able to even mention it on twitter without people jumping down my throat i did like it is always good for like some like uh to get some easy likes from people when you just make an easy joke about the last jedi you just go like oh
Starting point is 00:48:18 and you just like oh i'm gonna get it in here and the other people and most people won't even respond because they don't want to get into it but agreed if you just be like a man and just ignore it like you ignore all your other problems right it's like don't worry about it everything you know everything's just fine i didn't realize all that stuff about george lucas that's fascinating i thought it was really just kind of like uh put up from the end i will say one thing that would have happened and it would have made this movie great it would have been darth jar jar darth jar jar comes back in episode seven he's the phantom menace as he should have been from day one and we get darth jar jar in episode seven you know absolute chaos did was he gonna do like was was the first order supposed to like feel just like the empire like do you know was that
Starting point is 00:48:56 part of his plan or because i i don't necessarily know if that yeah i don't know they make a lot of money about that but they make a lot of money. I would be very, very fascinated to know, like, how far did he get with that Episode 7? Is there an outline? Did he go into Episode 8? Did he go into Episode 9? Was he just working on the one? I would love for, I don't know who was around him at that time, maybe Dave Filoni, to write a book one day about what George george lucas was really thinking about that the most we have out of it is if you have the art of the force awakens book a lot of that concept art was actually made when george was thinking about it so you could see some of that stuff like the downed i believe
Starting point is 00:49:34 the downed death star was from his draft of the force awakens and it was going to be completely underwater where they're going to have to like dive almost like a the phantom menace like where they dive underwater and swim through it and they were going to be completely underwater where they're going to have to dive, almost like the Phantom Menace, where they dive underwater and swim through it. And they were going to swim through the Emperor's Throne Room and stuff. So that was from it and stuff. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Disney doesn't make a ton of money. They probably buy it.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Maybe they buy DC in this what if, right? They have DC and the MCU because they bought Star Wars before Marvel, right? No. Marvel was first? I think they had Marvel first, yeah, because they've been making this for a while. The MCU and shit was around before that.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Okay, cool. All right, that's about it. I mean, we have some other what-ifs, but there are a lot of the ones that we've answered already this season. I appreciate everyone who sent in what-ifs this season. It's going to be fun to go back to this next season of what-if, which we are getting 2022. We'll go back to the hypotheticals we'll bring kfc in and stay tuned for episodes between now and hawkeye still going to be weekly drops i don't know if they're going
Starting point is 00:50:35 to be interviews i don't know if clem's going to join if kfc's going to join if brendan's going to join you never know who's going to pop down into the basement probably some dana white i would say dana white will definitely be on between now and november they've got a UFC pay-per-view at the Garden coming up. So stay tuned, everybody. Subscribe on YouTube if you haven't already. That helps us out a ton. We're trying to grow on YouTube. We're trying to really get up to 10,000 subscribers.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I think that would be awesome. Subscribe on iTunes, Spotify. Make sure to follow Clem at The Clem Report. Clem has been putting up some awesome blogs lately on some nerdy stuff. He's been blogging what if for me all season. I appreciate that, all the different hypotheticals. As always, Clem, thank you for coming down. I can't wait to talk about Hawkeye with you.
Starting point is 00:51:16 It's an absolute pleasure. We're getting to the point now where we get some, you know, it's going to be a little reprieve here, but I bet there's going to be enough shit where we're going to be like, yo, let's hop on, get on the mic. the we might do some commentaries that could be fun to do go back to a commentary bring someone on for one yep that would be a lot of fun and again once once football season's in and we're giving those little like sunday four o'clock post patriot games that's when we get on and then it's going to be fast and furious come but i i said it's no longer
Starting point is 00:51:41 baseball season it's no longer even football season, even though the Giants won on Sunday. It is now MCU season. We got Eternals. We got Spider-Man. If you want to just get it's nerd season. We got, you know, Star Wars coming up come December plus Hawkeye. So a lot of stuff coming. So when I'll tell you what I'll do for sure before Eternals, I'm going to get my friend.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I think Jose Young's will come on. He's from MMA fighting.com, but he's a comic book wizard. This guy's an encyclopedia of comic books doesn't even really watch the mcu which is fucked up he's such comic comic book purist that he's like ah they don't do what they didn't in the comics completely so i'm not into it i'm gonna have him come on and explain the eternals to us so we go into that movie with a little bit of comic book knowledge we feel like we're in the know you know by the time we step into the theater that's a good call because i i feel like i've uh for a few well for watchmen and then there was something else there was another thing where i went into it blind
Starting point is 00:52:34 was completely like watched it completely overwhelmed and then like uh did some research online or whatever watched a couple youtube videos and then i watch again i'm like oh my god this is so much better if we actually do that and the first time we see eternals we get to enjoy it with those kind of like with that kind of mind that sounds like a great idea and eternals is going to be the first marvel movie that marvel is debuting at a film festival before it comes out which is leading a lot of people to believe like this shit is gonna be good that chloe zow effect best director winner at the osc. She's making a crazy film. You know, a film.
Starting point is 00:53:07 We're not talking movies. A film. Fans are going fancy boy on it. That's when you know it's good. Marvel thinks they have a winner here. They're sending it out there. And this is how I'm going to measure the success of Eternals.
Starting point is 00:53:18 If I do not go into that review and I'm not calling him Robb Stark, Jon Snow, or Jelena Jolie, if I'm calling them by their Stark, Jon Snow, a Juliana Jolie. If I'm calling them by their actual weird ass, eternal names are for sure going to be fucking really weird. And like, I'm going to cut my tongue off to pronounce that's how you know, it's going to be a success,
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Starting point is 00:54:10 That's right, baby. Alright, and before I get out of here, I'll just say this breaking news. I saw Dave wearing a My Mom's Basement hoodie in the office today. Clem saw it as well. I was like, Clem, Dave is wearing a My Mom's Basement hoodie right now. You won't believe this, but it's on. He wore it for two seconds because it didn't
Starting point is 00:54:26 fit him, but it was on. Dave Portnoy? I just thought he was a longtime listener. No, turns out he's a legitimate basement boy. He's a diehard. He's that next level up. I really don't. I think he just bought it. He's a big fan, as we said last week. Huge My Mom's Basement fan. I didn't even know they had him in the store.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I didn't even know they had him still in the store, so shout out. Big win for Nathan Hurst, right that was a nathan hell yeah nathan hurst he's constantly still doing like cool stuff he did just in his own free time he did a pop punk poster for us that was just like so awesome i feel like we should make it a shirt shout out nathan hurst shout out all the listeners that have joined us for what if and we'll see you next week i don't know what for but we'll see you next week

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