My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 16 - INTERNATIONAL FIGHT WEEK/UFC 239 EXTRAVAGANZA WITH JOSEPH BENAVIDEZ, MEGAN OLIVI, SEAN O’MALLEY, AND TIM WELCH!

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

Robbie was in Las Vegas this past weekend covering International Fight Week, the UFC Hall of Fame Red Carpet, and UFC 239, so he met up with some friends while in town! Megan Olivi and Joseph Benavidez break down the story of their relationship, discuss what it's like for Megan to watch Joe fight, what's next for Joey Two Times, and their passions outside of fighting! Afterwards, top UFC prospect Sean O'Malley and his coach Tim Welch join Robbie to elaborate a bit on why Sean was unable to compete at UFC 239, the Bantamweight's current status with USADA, what his day-to-day life is like now, and of course, the three do some HIGH-potheticals. Follow this week's guests on Twitter... -@MeganOlivi -@JoeJitsu -@SugaSeanMMA -@TimWelchMT ...and don't forget to check out @dapperscrappers on Instagram, and subscribe to the Timbo SugarShow Podcast on iTunes/wherever podcasts are listened to!!! NOTE FROM ROBBIE: Due to unforeseen circumstances, I was sorta stranded in Vegas without functional podcast equipment, so unfortunately the audio on these interviews isn't to the level I wish it was. We recorded both interviews with one boom mic, which...obviously isn't ideal. Luckily, both of these interviews were an absolute blast, and I feel EXTREMELY CONFIDENT in saying that the quality of conversation makes up for the quality of audio! In the words of my beloved Alanis Morisette, “You live, you learn”! I promise you, I'll do my best to make sure that never happens again!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I'm here with the Ben Olivies in the Ben Olivi household. Joby Juan Kenobi and Megan Olivi and Benny, their dog, who is just as big a legend. Yeah, he really is. He's not coming up.

He's a little shy right now. We are less than 24 hours removed from usc 239 in vegas international fight league unbelievable card megan you were working joe you were in the crowd what do you guys oh yeah oh my god what were the highlights it was nuts i mean how can you not say the masvidal knockout because when you see a ufc record in person i mean the fastest knockout of all time in five seconds i mean that's just like that's history right you can always say like oh i was at that fight um that was for me probably like the number one thing i've ever ever been in attendance for as far as fighting goes and it was like one of the most surreal things i've ever seen

in real life and scary it was surreal because as soon as it started like the anticipation builds up and you're like oh how's this gonna go and to go? Ask me this and this is. And then it's just over. And the guy's just smiling and pulling all the amazing like, you know, antics he does. And it was just it was like surreal. Yeah. Even the front row. I mean, we're in like fighters or everyone was just like grabbing each other. It's such an experience.

It looked like it looked like a like an NBA dunk contest. Yeah. Everyone's falling over. It was. It was. Couldn NBA dunk contest. Yeah. Everyone's falling over each other. It was. Couldn't control things. I couldn't process what even happened. Because I told you guys just a few moments ago, like, when Masvidal was taunting him by, like, banging on the canvas, one of the little padding things was blocking me, and I thought he was just hitting him in the face.

And I was like, somebody's going to need to get Masvidal away from that ass right now. Slicking him. He's like, here you go. That was crazy. The Rockhold knockout was obviously insane. And then Amanda Nunez and Holly Holm was insane. I liked the main event. I thought the entire main event was super captivating.

And then the crowd started booing and got some hate on Twitter. What did you guys think of the main event? I think, well, fans obviously are going to boo at some fights that, you know. And I'm all for booing Jon Jones. I hate Jon Jones. He's my least favorite fighter of all time. Fuck that guy. But I think with the three fights before and the action that was already taking place,

I think they were kind of like... And they're drunk. It's Las Vegas. That's the thing. You go to some cities and they are just like the most respectful crowd ever. They'll clap just for the effort. What are the respectful cities? I think a lot of times when we're in Texas,

they're shaking at everybody who wins or loses the shakedown. They'll be like, you'll be back if they lose. They'll be like, you know, great fight. And they win. And it's a lot of Canada. But then there's some places where you're just like, oh, Canada is. Minnesota was great. Yeah, Minnesota was amazing.

Minnesota's crowd was cool. Yeah. But then some places, you're almost, like, nervous. Oh, my God. Just don't, like, let them beat, you know? Brazil, I'm sure, like, gets crazy, right? Brazil, you know what? They're not too bad after the fight.

But, like, yeah, there are some countries where our cards start earlier, so people are drinking from, like, 9 a.m. on. And then, towards the end of the night, they're just like, they're just hammered and just super. And Vegas is one of those. Like even people start filing in later. Like the other cars are there to watch the fight. And they're just there like, oh my God, UFC is here in Vegas. It's another stop a lot for a lot of people on their night to go in at seven or eight.

They're already drinking their pregame. And so they're just there to cause a ruckus either way. So they'll just boo if something happens. There was a wave last night, though. That was cool. Yeah. I was kind of going crazy. And it wasn't during a fight, which was nice.

Yeah, the wave was cool. And I was saying, I was like, the wave either happens when it's super awesome or they're super bored. And that case was great because it was super awesome. It was like right after big knockouts and stuff. It was after all the big knockouts. They had to take a little more break because the fights were fast and everyone started waving. I'm like, this is great

because it's not because it's a boring fight. It's like they literally are loving life. Oh, that's cool. And there wasn't a lot of woos last night. Not a lot of leg kick woos. Maybe in the prelims, I think there was. Yeah. In the Italia fight.

You were sitting by the fighters. Were you there when the whole Nate Habib thing happened? I wasn't. I missed it all. She kind of filled me in and, you know, some of my friends filled me in. I got hit up by like a stoolie from Ireland actually who lived in New York, was here for this. And he was right behind and he sent a video. It was actually pretty crazy.

And then craziest small world thing ever happened. He came up to me after the fight, this Irish guy, and he said, Hey, didn't you used to work at Richfield Park Movie Theaters when you were in high school? And I was like, what? Yes. I was was like that's where I used to sling hot dogs and he was like yeah me and my girlfriend saw you there a few times and then a few years later you started working at Barstool we were pretty proud it's like how did you remember me sir but he gave the video kind of crazy what went down there I can't believe the UFC thought let's sit these two together I think they have a have a history. Yeah. You know what?

It's so challenging. I don't think they were directly near each other. It looked like Diaz was like two rows behind Habib, but to get to his seat, he had to go back. And they never really sit in their seats anyway. They're all like. It's chaos down there. They're all trying to move seats and stuff. So I don't actually.

Someone made it to the floor that wasn't even a fighter. And he's like sitting by Ioana. And like he's a cowboy seat. And everyone just like tries to bring an extra, so it's always kind of madness. So I wouldn't – I don't think they'd sit him together. Yeah, and the woman who actually usually does the tickets, she's, like, so good about that. Like, she – I mean, because we obviously know. But the problem is, like, with international fight week, there's so many guest fighters.

Only a certain amount actually get tickets. And it's usually somebody who is climbing the rankings, who's got, like, a bigger position. Yeah, Sean O'Malley just told me he couldn't get a ticket. He couldn't. He requested it, and they said, actually, because he used to use that stuff. They said, because of that, you're banned. Like, you can't even come. I don't think they give people on suspension appearances or anything. It's challenging, and it's hard when

you have a very limited space because you know it's john jones there's lots of tickets are sold people want to be there the the four seats are selling because people want to see him in action so there's limited space to put the fighters and then even if they're on opposite ends three rows apart they're still gonna especially because the seats weren't that crowded and also like those two personalities with ollie in the mix, like, things are going to pop off. Nothing actually happened. It was just all verbal.

Yeah. Which is good because they both have fights that I'm, like, super interested in. Oh, yeah. Thank God those didn't get fucked up. Yeah. Enough about UFC 239, though. Let's talk about you guys. Megan and Joe are legit, like, my two favorite people I've met through Barstool, I want to

say. But I actually don't know that much about, like, how you guys met. So I want to talk about that. Okay. When did that happen? Because from what I understand, you didn't meet through the UFC. No. No.

Which is crazy. I figure a lot of people assume that. Everyone does. It's so annoying. Like, yesterday. Which I don't mind that because then I just look like the coolest guy. For sure. Yeah.

You know, they're like, oh, you just interviewed all these guys and you liked him like he must be super cool yeah but like i'm we met like long before mandalay 10 years ago in las vegas which you know we've made a home in now and mandalay bay lobby i was on a fight trip like you know this is 2009 so you're in WC this time. Around, like, the cruise flight? Right before. Yeah, a month before. Oh, was it? Yeah. Yeah. And then she lived in New York and was literally here.

Celebrating graduating college with my two best friends. So we, like, had a little girl. Seton Hall, right? Seton Hall. Right before I started Fordham. Look at that. Graduated school. The interviewer did his research on the interview.

Yeah. So, yeah, we were just, like, having a good time before I started grad school and they started work. And then he was really cute. And he was with a group of friends who invited us out as well. And we're like 22 years old with no money. Like, yeah, we'll go. Sure.

And Joe doesn't drink. And I was like, oh, that's cool. And so I was like, oh oh i guess i won't really drink either and that night we just quoted will ferrell to each other the whole time and then he asked if i had email and i was like you asked if she had email dude i was that was that like is that like a high-tech strategy thing i don't know you don't ask for the number you ask for the email i well i guess it works but i was like using that i was like behind me to meet a girl and be like, hey, what's your email? Yeah.

No. It was bad. You're the Slack. He was like, yeah. He's like, I don't even know what Slack is a tool. He's like, do you have an email? Slack is, like, for work things. It's for, like, young people things.

Oh, okay. This is what it was. I thought she was super professional and, like, obviously, like, really cool. And then I had just got, like, my first computer in my life i never had a computer growing up ever like we had like so did you think email was awesome yeah so i just thought like that's what people do like i'm older i'm in vegas like i met i don't know yeah what i was really thinking and then i was like you got email because i do because i thought i was like cool because i finally had a computer computer first computer ever 2009

and then i think her first email like she emailed me her number and she's like this is easier yeah much easier but we continued to email like throughout like a lot like falling in love over emails which is weird romantic i'm sending letters to each other bro it was and i was sending like youtube videos and like boys to men videos and, like, trying so hard. Oh, yeah. Dude, everything. Trying so hard. And get this.

The morning of our wedding, she was, like, check under the bed or something. And I was like, what the heck? And I pulled it out. And it was all our emails printed out. Oh, my God. Yeah. Because Gmo keeps it all. Yeah.

So we have the first correspondence we had to another and we were trying so hard to impress with each other i thought you were gonna say trying so hard not to cry when you pulled them out because now i'm oh i know i didn't cry hard i cried you're about to make me cry that's the sweetest thing i've ever heard i'll cry right now but i cried like that wasn't like that wasn't a question like i'm i cried like immediately reading that oh yeah but yeah like it was like we were trying, like, so hard. On our wedding day, you make me cry this hard. It was awesome.

But then I had coffee and donuts. Also, you had coffee and donuts delivered. And I had a bunch of maniacs there. When you guys met, sorry to cut you off. Not a good. Were you, you weren't covering fighting at all at the time? Not at all. So, my brother, I grew up in Lehigh Valley in Pennsylvania.

Yep. So, right on the Jersey board, I was born in Jersey. And then my high school was both states. And it's, like, in your high school was pennsylvania and new jersey yep never heard of that yeah um so like number one in the nation yeah we're crazy wrestling school and community and stuff so my brother's 10 years older than me and um he was a wrestler so i grew up literally on a wrestling mat i would ref stuff i would work tournaments i mean i was always there. I didn't know that. Yeah, I was never like a mat rat or like a water girl.

Never dated a wrestler. Never worked for the wrestling team. But when my brother was wrestling and I was younger, I would help out here and there. My dad was a coach, so I'd always help. And so I understood that. And my grandfather was a Navy champion boxer. Oh, wow, cool. And his brother was a professional boxer.

Huge fighting family. Right, exactly. There's like destiny. So I understood the sport really well but I literally only knew like Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz and that was like probably from Entourage, like I didn't really even know anything, but the Friends episode

yeah, yeah, exactly, Tank Abbott so when I actually saw it I was like oh my god, this is amazing and I get this you know, like it wasn't an adjustment period for me, it was like I totally understand this. But when he told me he was a fighter, I was like, oh, okay. I just thought he was saying that.

I was like, all right, sure. Why didn't you believe? He looks like a fighter. Do you have the cauliflower ear back now? No. I think no. Yeah. I want it so bad.

Really? I want to just go rub my ear against a mat or something at Henzo's, and then he'll walk in, and people are like, don't fuck with that guy. People do it. People do it. Oh, Henzo's terrible. We had to drain it when he got his call. We had to drain it with like a veterinary needle.

I wrestled when I was in fourth grade. I was two and one professionally. I was a beast. But my issue was I had a short notice, move up in a weight class, the whole thing. Yeah, that'll happen. First home match, the kid demolished me. Text me. I didn't let him pin me, but I thought he broke my ribs.

And I remember I just kept telling my parents, I was like, I swear I'm not a sore loser. I'm just in pain. Like, I just kept saying it. But always growing up, I was friends with wrestlers, and I would always tell them, like, I want cauliflower. You're so bad. Just, like, take me down or something. Give it to me. When did you start covering fighting?

So what was your plan before that? Well um well originally so i went to college for political science i wanted to manage political campaigns my i was interning did you just always like politics yeah yeah um and so then i was interning and i was i was always talking to the guys on set about sports specifically the yankees nice go yes Go, yes. First place right now by a long shot. So they would always be like, why don't you do this for a living? Why are you trying to pursue something that's so cutthroat and at the end of the day stressed me out more than it made me happy? You should talk about sports.

I'm like, I am not that vain. I'm not that girl. I don't love myself. Those girls on camera. I just had a very bad image. The other thing, was it, like, were people being like, you should definitely be on camera. Like, you talk about this very well. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I would just, like, be in the wings of the television studio talking to, like, the sound guys and the stage manager about the Yankees game the night before. And so, finally, they put me on this, like, little web series series, which was an hour long about sports. And I was like, fine, I'll do it. And I did it. I was like, that was so easy. Were you covering the Padres at one point?

I did. That was years later. That was years later. 2013. That's where we got Benny. Yeah, that's where Benny's from. In San Diego? It's in the future.

Oh, cool. In the future. So when did fighting come into the equation covering-wise? So we started dating. I was in graduate school. And then he'd be like, hey, do you want to come meet me in Denver for this WC fight? Or do you want to come meet me here for this fight? That's got to be the coolest thing to tell a girl.

Hey, you want to come to my fight? But also more pressure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, it wasn't when he was fighting. It was always like if he was a guest fighter. So we would get to hang out. And then people saw that i was

starting like to do sports broadcasting and somebody was finally like you have the like the background and the familiarity with the sport like from wrestling and boxing you clearly are following it now because of joe um do you want to move to vegas and work for us and i was like well that's you offered me more money than I make in New York, which was like zero, and the cost of living in Las Vegas is nothing. Cost of living in New York is bullshit, quite frankly. Yeah, I mean, I was like taking food from the green room every day just so that I could eat and not have to buy stuff.

So finally, I was like, yeah, let's do it. I'll give myself a year, and if not, I'll just move back and be poor again and it'll be fine. So that was really where I started was I moved out here at the end of 2009. No, the end of 2010. And yeah, I never moved back. So what year do you make your UFC debut? UFC? Dude, I'm so bad with years.

I think it was, well, I have WC. 2012? Maybe. Could it have been? 11 or 12 um 11 or 12 yeah because i had two bantamweight fights in the ufc trans uh you know as we got yeah wc was your ufc debut with my first one in newark yeah so two bantamweights then before the flyweight tournament whatever year that was i'm so bad with years. So I just fought Formiga, who I fought six years ago, and I was telling everyone I fought him two years ago.

Oh, yeah. That's not even close. Yeah, I was like. Once it gets in your head, it sticks, right? Yeah, and I was just like, and they're like, weren't you like ACL surgery two years ago? You fought him six years ago. I was like, oh, so I don't know the year. But yeah, I had six fights in WC before that. So I've been with the Zufa company that long.

And then the UFC debut was in that New Jersey card. So I think that was 11 or 12. So when you guys, like, are both in the UFC and you're dating, is there, like, were you getting, like, people talking behind your back being like, what's going on with that? Or because you came in well first you were at a website in the sport and i was fighting and then it was kind of it was like low-key you know it was kind of like they'd see us together like i'm here with megan but it wasn't like hey we have a dog with an instagram you know yet so we were always just i mean you can't help it like if you know her and you've seen our interviews like how professional she is it was always the same you could watch the

interviews from like your recent fights and you would never be able to tell us it was always it was always kind of chemistry but yeah so it was always kind of the same thing like we knew like oh i'll see you later but she's like interviewing me at the same time so it was always one of those things yeah and then yeah and then she did the year with the Padres and then got hired by the UFC. Yeah. So I was always like working for an outside company. But even then, we were super open with Dana and the Fertittas. Like I didn't ever want it to seem like, oh, she just started dating this guy in the blue

or you concealed it. You didn't tell us. Like I told them immediately. I guess that's a good way to think. I don't know if there was a stigma against like dating coworkers-workers but you guys weren't when it started when it started yeah yeah it's like a cheat code you got around it like whatever i don't care i mean i i knew there were particular people in the media that like thought it was this outrage but they were gonna think anything was an outrage so i didn't i didn't care and I knew that we weren't just like dating

like I knew we were going to end up married and together so it wasn't like a hard thing for me to be like I'm risking all this for him and then it's like it's not worth it then you know like if they have a problem with it like it's not worth it that's more important but um I I was always really open with with them and and Joe has such a good relationship with the Fertittas that they were always so receptive of it so when I did get hired full time by UFC to work for the promotion I think that was like 2013

there used to be a policy that you couldn't like date fighters or anything and you'd have to work on some paperwork and stuff for that and I was like yeah I can't sign that you had to do paperwork that oh saying you would yeah yeah most of the employees yeah lorenzo obviously once once they were like hey she's not signing this he was like yeah she dates joe benavidez like it's fine and so even like the day we got engaged before we told anyone publicly like i sent the fortitas and dana a message and just said like hey like we're super excited we're super excited.

We're engaged. We just want you to know before we say anything. And then same with our wedding. They were just so cool about it because we've always both done our individual job so well. And we've done our jobs together so well. So nobody ever – like once they were like, oh, shit, they're together and they're doing all this work together, it was fine because there's never been an issue. Your wedding must have been like the last supper of fighters. Yeah.

Just fighters everywhere. Was it crazy? It ended with like dozens of fighters with their shit on. I remember the pictures, there was like, you guys had a bunch of Elvis's, right? Yeah. A bunch of Elvis's. We hired like six Elvis's. All different walks of Elvis's, different colors, shapes, sizes, everything of Elvis's.

People thought it was a prank and like, you know, like people were crashing our party. I'm like, no, the answer's on me. We're like, no, sizes everything of Elvis's people thought it was a prank and people were crashing our party I'm like no, the answer's on me by the end of the night Megan's six year old mom that was going to be a nun conservative was like dancing with the black Elvis and my little nephew is falling around the small Elvis

thinking like why are you, you know, like, didn't understand. Super cool. They became best friends. Yeah. And the guy was just the coolest person ever.

And it was just... He works at a Christmas party. Did you guys see Into the Spider-Verse? I haven't seen it yet. There's all these different, like, Spider-Men. Like, you guys had that

with Elvis. Yeah, we did, 100%. You just mentioned the Fertittas and how you have a great relationship with them. Joe, Megan knows this. Do you know my most recent Lorenzo Fertitta story? I don't, but I'd like to hear it.

I love Lorenzo. He's the greatest. He's been at Barstool a few times. He's a hero. Yeah, I think he has a good relationship with Dave and Erica, and they obviously know him, a massive UFC fan, followed him for years. So they were like, we'll introduce you. They introduced me.

It's him and Nikisa. Oh, Nikisa's the sweetest on our wedding day. He sent me the nicest message. He's like, this is what your husband's thinking. You're going to have a good time. I love them. So nice. So nice. So dreamy. Lorenzo is as well. The first time I met him, they were just asking me questions

about Conor or fighters, whatever. What fighters do you like? This, that, the next thing. And then the next time I met him, I forgot he was coming in and it was our new office. So I was like going to leave and I opened the door and I was talking to someone

and I opened and Lorenzo was just there. Oh, she might've actually. And I was just like, oh fuck. And I didn't, I like froze up and I put my hand out and I was like, uh, hey, nice. Good to see you. Nice to see you.

And he was like, Lorenzo. And I was like, Lorenzo., nice, good to see you, nice to see you. And he was like, Lorenzo. And I was like, Lorenzo, uh, nice to see you, Lorenzo. And I just went out and got lunch and pretended like it never happened. I was like, he's not going to fucking remember that. But Lorenzo's the man. Have you guys, like, kept in touch with them since the whole UFC thing? I actually just talked to Nikisa not that long ago. When we see the Fertittas, it's always great.

They're so busy, and I don't want to just, like, course hey Frank and Lorenzo how are you and the other person seems like you both have a great relationship with Dana obviously when did that like what do you think made your relationship different than other people's with Dana because it seems like he considers you guys like close friends yeah I mean I think well I think the thing with Dana to realize is like he treats everybody like they're the most important person in the room, especially when you're doing interviews and stuff. Like, he has a really good mannerism about him. But you also have to understand, like, you aren't going to go hang out with Dana, like, at a bar. We'll see.

I'm doing it tomorrow. You're super cool. You're cool. You're cool. But, like, I see that a lot with people and he is a really friendly, personable guy

and he does genuinely like I believe like care especially about his employees and stuff but like I think sometimes people try to be too cool

with him and I think that can really throw him off like alright like we are really in business together at the end of the day and while we'll

make it as friendly as possible like don't invite me to like go do this or don't like come sit at my table for a restaurant. Not that he's ever said that. I just don't go up to him in the middle of the night while he's playing blackjack. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that if you understand really like that, we, it's a working relationship and you can make that as great as possible i think

that's a really a big part of it because some people just they just want to be and you see this with like every person of importance in every walk of life like they just want to be so cool with that cool person yeah like oh no no no like let's facetime my mom it's like the the clout chasing thing almost yeah yeah and it like, no, like only really interact when you need to. Like he's got stuff to do. I'm not going to go just like swing by and see how he's doing. You know, we interact when we need to and stay, you know, off the radar if there's nothing important and go from there. All right, enough about the goof.

I love the big goof. Joe. What's up? Just about a week ago. About a week ago. It's got to be at this point probably my favorite one of your finishes. Yeah? Because it's since like, it's definitely the most awesome one since you and I have met and all that.

Perfect. I just told you I was watching it with Trent, people who know Trent, and Karabas. And I told him like, I get nervous for your fights now. And I know Megan gets super nervous for your fights too. She does. Have you gotten less nervous or more nervous since the beginning? Years come off of my life. Oh, my God.

His first Formiga fight, I was in the front row sitting next to Dan Henderson in Brazil. We are the only people cheering for John. They're only Americans in Belo Horizonte, Brazil, with Brazilian fans. And she is literally, like, in the front. You see when I drop Formiga, she's, looking at everybody like and then and now six years later which i thought was two but six she fast forward and she is locked herself in a bathroom with a 17 minute timer when the fight starts yeah wait so you don't watch i haven't watched joe fight since before he fought sugo oh my god i didn't realize that i text you during his fights.

I'm like, yes, he did it, whatever. Oh, yeah. No, that's how I find out it's over. That's how I found out. People text you. I got like six texts in a row. He did it. And I swung open the bathroom door and just started sprinting.

I was like, what happened? And everyone's like, he knocked him out. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, I saw you fight live. Where was it? In Brooklyn?

Yeah. And I was nervous as hell to be in a team. Madness. I almost didn't want to be in the arena for that one, to be honest with you. Oh, dude. Yeah. No, where was it? In Brooklyn? Yeah. And I was nervous as hell to be in a town. Madness. I almost didn't want to be in the arena for that one, to be honest with you. Oh, dude. Yeah. No, I was serious. That means a lot.

I was like, I don't want to. He's going to get punched in the face. This is fighting. Yeah. I'm going to get punched in the face. Yeah. It is different. Last weekend, you have this fight against Formiga.

Yes. You head kick him so hard that you fell down. Yeah. Walk me through the finish. That's a very Joe Rogan thing to say. Yeah. Walk me through the finish. That's a very Joe Rogan thing to say. Yeah. Walk me through the finish and look up at the board and enjoy the fruits of your labor. Honestly, like the whole time I knew how good his distance was.

And Formiga is really good at like not fighting you. And then when you like try to fight him, you kind of fall into his trap. He gets his takedowns and stuff, which taking me down is like taking yourself down as everybody saw you know ended up on top crazy best positions um but it was one of those things it's like i want to punch you bad like stop leaving you know so it's at this point i'm like i'm just gonna initiate the fight you know whatever if we scramble we take down i'm good there so when i got him in the head i felt I was wearing him down really good, scrambles and stuff. And then I was finally, you know, getting to him. And then once I kicked him in the head and I fell, I saw it in his eyes that he was like rocked and like, he would dream of me falling down so he could get an easy takedown. And he like,

didn't come back after me. So I was just like, this is the time, like I was getting to him a little bit before that with some straight lefts and stuff but once i saw him rock i just got up and it was the same thing though he was against the cage i knew he was probably desperate for like a spin or something actually my coaches before that said he's like you're gonna hurt him to the body or you know you're gonna hurt him with a punch and it's just like don't rush in because all he thinks about is spinning even when he's not hurt. So once I saw him actually hurt, I was like take my time.

The cage is right there. Like he can't back up anymore. It's crazy that you're saying you took your time because in real time, it does not look like you took your time. But I mean I didn't just get reckless. And I think I threw a good combo and I saw him hurt. And I was like the cage is right there. Where is he going? And I just picked my shots, threw a few straight lefts, straight ups.

Super accurate, yeah. And then once he covered, I was just like, this is over. And I just started throwing. And he fell. From the hit, too. Yeah. And then he fell. And I held my breath punching.

So I made a really cool face. The face you made afterwards was so awesome. They put it up on a gift. And I retweeted it. I was like, look at this fucking bad motherfucker. He's a fucking savage. He's got elf blood in him. It was sick.

It was crazy. Like, when I see that, I'm like, man, who am I? But, like, I feel like it's so cool. And if you're, like, from my perspective, going through that, because, like, you know, like, you have, especially nowadays, like, I don't, like, black out in a fight or anything. Like, sometimes, like, I don't know everything that happened. Did you early on? But you know what I mean? No, like, sometimes you just be like, oh, shoot, I don't know what happened.

That was crazy. But I can honestly, literally, like, consciously think of, like, small things. Like, even as I was in the air, like, getting taken down, I was like, oh, I better reverse him because I told everyone taking me down is like taking yourself down. In the fighting interview, and Bisping was like – You're thinking about your interviews in the octagon. I was like already thinking about – You're not Michael Bisping to me. Yeah, because Michael Bisping was like – he's like, that's cool, but like he's a jiu-jitsu black belt.

Like the round's over if he takes you down. I'm like, no, like a minute, like I could be on top at least. And then he's like, okay, man. And like in practice, that's my thing. Like I just work sweeps only, like no escapes. So anyway anyway i was literally thinking that in the air like i've had random thoughts in there like all the time but there's like split seconds you know so anyway when i was done i remember i think i made that face because i was holding my breath punching because i was just like i have a bad habit of so when i was done i just like kept it and then honestly i honestly

dude what i thought of leonardo dicCaprio from The Wolf of Wall Street. I haven't seen it. When he's, like, making, like, a weird face. Oh, you've got to watch it. I know. Everyone always tells me that. It's incredible. I did a post-fight interview with the flyweight division.

We're not leaving. You were like, I'm sorry. So that was kind of that, yeah. And then I just stared around and just embraced the whole moment. Like, that was pretty much it. Great call out afterwards. Henry Cejudo, our guy that I absolutely hate. If you've seen my UFC Hall of Fame video with him, he's just the worst, and he has been for a long time.

Do you watch his fights afterwards? Actually, I watched this one because everybody was like, you have to watch it. But I haven't seen his Ortiz fight. I saw the end i saw portions of the suhudo fight i i haven't no that's that's interesting even knowing he's okay you can't go back and watch it really it's really weird when he fights for the title i'll be out there because i want him to know for sure me too i don't i don't give a fuck where it is but yeah it's um it's weird i just i next to each other, holding each other. It's going down.

But yeah, it's weird. I just, I literally can't handle it. I can't even explain the feeling. Like, it's beyond nerves. It's just like I almost think I'm going to die. I felt that way, especially at 229 with Connor. Connor gave me a ticket, so I was like sitting next to his bodyguard, too. Okay.

And as soon as the brawl happened, too, his bodyguard was so funny. He was like, you should get the fuck out of here. I was like, alley two times has become your latest two times yeah a bunch of rematches and a bunch of rematch victories when you're fighting a guy for the second time how much of a factor does the first fight play like are these guys do they change completely by the time the second fight comes around are you like i remember i could do that in the first fight so i'm gonna try the time the second fight comes around? Or are you like, I remember I could do that in the first fight, so I'm going to try it in the second fight? That's kind of how it is. Like I said that after the Cejudo fight. He's gotten good, obviously, and accomplished a lot of things.

But it can be done once. It can be done again. It already happened. That's already written. It can happen again. Every opponent's different, though. I see how different people have changed. I look at the fights, and I take it as an opportunity for me to actually show more like if i beat dustin ortiz you're like in

the first fight i could do them again in the first fight i literally struck with him the whole time i threw like hundreds of significant strikes per round like it was madness um hit him with every single thing i could um and he didn't go down so i'm like he's obviously as tough as can be but when i took him down you know it was like easy and he's usually grinds people out and has been beaten taken down so i was like i want to get in a grappling match with him and also he was just coming off a knock i was like the only literal way he can beat me is catching me so it's like if i'm safe on the feet and initiate a grappling match that you probably won't expect because i just tried to knock him out last time, I'm going to do that.

So I was going in there and he even gave me more than I can handle though on the ground. Like he was just as tough on the feet, kind of like not going away and staying chopping like he does on the ground. Like the guy wouldn't stop moving. I literally thought I was going to hold him there and like be cool that way. And then for Miga too, I was just like, well, I knocked him out in two minutes, so everything's going to go different. I could do a striking fest for 15 minutes and that would be different, but also I'd love to grapple with him because I know I could beat him in a jiu-jitsu match.

Did you want to show that? I 100% wanted to. And I actually wanted it to be how it happened. I could take him down, a jiu-jitsu guy, and I could – I'm not that worried down a jiu-jitsu guy and i could i'm not that worried about a jiu-jitsu guy on his back like jiu-jitsu guys on top of you are what are scary so i'm glad he initiated the offense because if i take him down like which it was still impressive like when her manson like took down jacare yeah i was talking to him yesterday i was like that was sick because like he was fearless in it and he knows like in this sport day and age like you're

winning when you're on top don't matter if the guy like there's not a ton of guys from the bottom that you're gonna be like oh my god scary but like jacare on top of you don't get him near you for me to go on top of you don't get him near you guys like that so i was kind of like i want to get into a grappling match like i would love to get on top of him in the guard and show like i'll pass your guard or whatever but i was really glad he actually had my back which is his spot twice and um both times i came out in the better situation so i always look at it as a chance for me to improve because you know the other guy has to improve of course he lost yeah so i always look at it as a chance for me to improve so same thing you know now joey two

times we got the past the present and now the future with suhudo so it was crazy when it first happened i was like that's a cool nickname um it was in the alex perez fight when i had to kind of do the two stoppages and it was fun i was like oh i have a rematch and then i got that was also crazy fight to watch for me because i was like oh i did it oh no i didn't oh i did it wait they're still fighting and i was like what is that crazy yeah they're like you knocked him out wait they're still fighting and i was like what is that crazy yeah that was the craziest thing that's ever happened to you inside the octagon right even in that like you have a split second thought of just like oh it's over oh what like yeah like it was weird how consciously i could think like i even like he was down on his feet and i like sprawled on him

like where usually if i sprawl on someone i'm turning and going for the guillotine. I literally had to sit there and, like, keep a headlock and think, like, what just happened? Yeah, because you don't want to. I was like, I could have sworn I just stopped him and now the fight's over. And I looked at the ref and, like, there was, like, a five-second period where I was literally just, like, breathing. I was like, well, it's not over. And then I just was like. Like, what's going on here?

And then even in that one, it was, like, really weird how it could be like, he's rocked. I was like, don't go crazy and like jump for a guillotine or something because some guys can just take those and you can, he ends up on top. I was like, get to his back because like the second you hit him, like he's rocked. You know what I mean? So I waited for that and patience once again, where I was like, the old me would have like jumped for a guillotine and, oh, my God, I'm so excited or something. But then that could be bad.

So it was a random little like – it was so crazy. Be patient enough to beat a guy and then just wait to beat him again. Yeah. So that was when two times happened. I was like, oh, that's fun. That's cool. But it was kind of whatever. And then – but like I also have an Italian wife.

So she's been trying to call me joey and it's kind of model it's kind of mafia style so i was just like bro you gotta get like a bellboard jumpsuit yeah i was like so this makes sense and then uh and then like the prophecy just kept going you know like oh leading all the way up to potentially another match yeah yeah would you take another fight before you get that shot or no nah i mean that was the other fight, honestly. Of course. So that's how I feel about it. But that was one that had to happen as a number one guy.

If you beat the number one guy and have a win over the current champion, like, what else can you do? What more can you do? Especially if you beat him in such a, you know, highlight, real fashion. He's dodging you or injured or whatever. Yeah. When, like, I guess, when do you want that fight to happen? You're going to say, as soon as it can happen? As soon as it can happen, yeah.

I mean, he obviously needs to heal up, so I'd never be, like, poking at someone with an injury. I'll do that. Because I'd heal up. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah. I'll do that for you. Yeah.

We got my goons for that. You know, Joey two times got the goons. It's like the Joey two times, like, street crew. Yeah. You like the Luca Brasi. Badroom, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we got the goons for that

which is great and like even yesterday everyone like at the signings were telling me like i keep harassing suhudo when i see him and he wouldn't sign my autograph and all this i actually talked to him yesterday oh yeah so speaking of the seating he sat like catty corner to me where it was like we had to make eye contact at some point so So I finally was just like, yo. And he's like, bro, good job. Like, we have. They've come such a long way. We've come a long way. Like, we have a ton of respect for each other now.

Like, after you have a fight like me and him had, like, you can't, like, not respect each other. And you can't not honestly respect what that guy's accomplished athletically. And that's how you look at it. You can't look at it personally. No matter how weird he is personally. Like, we'd never be friends. But, like, professionally, I can talk to him and tell him good job, as he can do to me. So that's the you look at it. You can't look at it personally no matter how weird he is personally. Like we'd never be friends but like professionally I can talk to him and tell him good job

as he can do to me. So that's the same thing I said and I said kind of what you say and what everyone's saying is like you act like there's a money fight but it's like

what is the biggest fight right now? Yeah. It's not Cody because he lost two rounds. It's not Dominic because he's injured. He's like where I am not naive. Who was the other one?

Uriah? Uriah. Yeah. Which is like bro what are you doing? What are you doing? So yeah, he made like, he made like, he made weird enough call-outs where it made my job easy enough to be like, all right, well.

So I just told him, I said, I'm not naive. Like I know those fights are maybe potentially bigger, but I'm like, look at the, like the landscape right now. You know, like I beat you. You would be able to do with the prior footage. Exactly. I beat you. You know what I to do with the prior footage. Exactly. I beat you. You know what I mean?

And that's the biggest fight. So I was like, why don't you stop worrying about that? And like, let's build this. And he's like, bro, I think that's the right idea when I'm,

you know, out of this. And I'm like, yeah, heal up of course. And I wasn't going to badger him, you know, we're like watching fights and it's a respectful thing and everything.

Have another Nate Habib situation. Yeah, exactly. So, and Joe's just so respectful all the time. Even when like if somebody annoys him he's just so good about it.

Whereas like I'm like you should have that motherfucking nut. Just like people in general I'm just like all that person at the store gave us a dirty look

like I'll fucking see you in the parking lot. Joe's just so chill about it. So yeah. Yeah, no it's good. It's good. Do you have that attitude? Because I don't.

I can't wait for you to beat Henry Cejudo again now the last thing moving into both of your passions the last yeah don't make it

the last go forever Megan with cooking you with like fashion and art we were just talking about it a little while ago when did you

I'll start with you because we just did a Joe question when did you get into cooking like real early on I think just because growing up in my house

we had a family dinner every single night Italian house called New jersey i know exactly it's like what we do and like we ate as a family i love visiting and we and i haven't been hungry since i met her but yeah yeah and just like it food is what my family revolves around like we even like as adults like my brother and sister are both quite a bit older than me we still go to my parents house and we'll be like okay how old is your how much older is your sister uh 12 years old okay so my brother and sister are both quite a bit older than me. We still go to my parents' house and we'll be like, okay. How old is your, how much older is your sister? 12 years old. Okay.

So my brother is 12 years older than me. My sister's nine years older. Yeah. So almost the same exact. Exactly. And it's nice having like a separate set of parents. Yeah. It's like an awesome, cool set of parents.

Yeah. And I never. That's exactly what she says. Like I never did anything like I was an idiot, you know, teenage and early twenties, but I never like did anything risky because was an idiot you know teenage and early 20s but I never like did anything risky because me neither yeah because they were just like

that's not as cool as it might seem or whatever you know like they gave me the same parental advice that my parents would have gave I had my first drink

the 4th of July after I graduated high school and I don't really drink after that yeah I had my first drink in college to this day

I've never done a drug I've never like done anything I've done enough for both. I've never like done anything. I've done enough for both. Yeah. Yeah. On this episode later on, we'll play an interview

with Sean O'Malley where I did some drugs. Okay. Sean O'Malley. You had to. And well, I just, I just didn't know it at the time,

but Joseph was doing all of that for both of us. Yeah. So yeah. 13 years sober. Congratulations. That's a hell of an accomplishment. Yeah. It's amazing. And then for you, art and fashion like the dapper scrappers has taken off and we were talking about it earlier

this week i texted megan was like fighters are definitely dressing up specifically to be on that instagram they ask they ask our pr team is dapper scrappers here or are they coming like because i need to go get an outfit or i brought an outfit for it. So cool. It is cool. And even around like the Instagram, well, actually like the first and second ones, people would be like, dude, I went shopping and I saw the, like, am I going to make it on your page or whatever? And then I was like, oh crap, this is cool. And like, I'd have some PR going like, did you see john volante or something he was looking for you because he wore an outfit i was like no way really so i was like oh that's amazing and then it just started you know kind of taking off with everybody because that's why i started it does

like everyone wants to express themselves like fashion art any of that is like it's all self expression music you know and it's just like fashion style i say like that's what i prefer because everyone has such a cool guy you know yeah no it's just fashion like such a it's just individual no no no no fashion's like one thing but style is like such an individual thing and that's what it's about with fighters especially like they go out to all these events and it's like they finally have a time to express themselves and be like i don't have to wear mybok kit. I don't have to just be in the gym. Because everyone's excuse for going to the gym is like, I'm going to the gym. I'm just going to wear my Reebok.

So I have to wear my fight kit. They already gave me these clothes. I'm going to go to the press conference in it. So those fights are the times when they get a chance to like, this is me out here. And it's instant conversation, you know, like a little bit about that guy just by looking at what he wears, you know. Definitely on the red carpet I felt that way. Like Johnny Walker, did you see what he was wearing on the red carpet? He had that like full teal blue suit, whatever.

Yeah, he's just eccentric. That was like half of our interview was just talking about how cool that was. And you can see it. Like he's just like eccentric, you know, oddball in a way. He's crazy. He's electric. He's awesome. So, yeah, just stuff like that.

And I was like all these guys did not wear this to not have their picture taken. So I'm just going to ask them. I'm not bothering them. They wore that for a reason. Started doing it. And then, so now it's just grown crazy. He has his Instagram. I have an amazing photographer, Chris John Millington.

So when his schedule allows. He is amazing. Who is here in my kitchen. He's taking of the people backstage like a style bender before the press conference. Oh, crazy ones. Yeah. That's cool. The artistic touch.

They're like, I'm going to typically go take pictures on my phone, full body. This is your outfit, maybe a portrait. You know, we get like so much different stuff when he can make it to the end. His looked like they were taking in the 60s. Exactly. It was awesome. So when the schedule allows, we do that. But now it's like a team effort.

Like honestly, if Megan's on the road and I'm not there, this guy was wearing that. Some UFC PR will send me stuff. So it's really a team, like Dapper Scrappers. Like, we captured these moments and whatever. And so, yeah, that's cool. Like, that's just stuff I love. Every sport has that. Like, when I work at NFL, like, our truck is filming the players' arrivals for their outfit.

NBA, it's such a massive thing. Like, Russell westbrook is constantly showing up and he's crazy yeah and i'm like we don't have that so i'm just gonna make it yeah and you have successfully done that now what's kind of killing me inside right now is i just got in massive trouble at work for my own fashion i'm talking massive trouble so we do this thing called the duncan go-to awards oh my god also. Also, love Dunkin' Donuts. Dunkin' Donuts? Love Dunkin'. Oh, it's awesome. They're one of our best sponsors.

I love Dunkin'. It was misinterpreted that I disrespected Dunkin'. You did? Oh no. So basically, the Dunkin' Go-To Awards

are our version of the Dundies. Oh God, yes. We rent out a Dunkin' Donuts in Queens and we put on a legitimate award show.

That's incredible. Do they have like songs and skits like Michael? Yeah. Yes! So like, Pop Punk, like we performed at the last one. Like we did an acoustic performance of like one of our, just like stupid jokey stuff like that. But this year I apparently wasn't dressed up enough. Now I thought they said, they said dress to impress, but kind of show your own personality. Okay. So I wore like khakis, these shoes, a red shirt, the red shirt I was wearing on the red carpet, which is my Calvin Klein shirt.

I thought I looked nice. And I also wore it because I was interviewing Danny Boyle, and I was like, I better look nice for Danny. Oh, Danny Boyle. But I was wearing the hat, and my boss freaked out on me for wearing the hat, and he was just going absolutely crazy. So next time you're in New York, you're going to have to like restyle me. That'd be cool. For the next Dunkin' Awards. Yeah, that'd be cool.

You can dress me for the next year's Dunkin' Awards. That's another thing. That's another thing. Like, just little things like that. Like, when you ask, like, what you want to do, I'm just, like, someone asked me, like, I'm passionate about everything. So, it's, like, I want to do everything. Like, Megan will, like, I'll try to, like, paint on a canvas.

And, like, I'll be mad that it's, like, not a Basquiat painting. Yeah. And then she's just, like, that was your first thing ever. I'm, like, I know, but, like, it doesn't look anything like that or like someone will make someone make like a cool photo and i'm just like oh i can't believe they did that she's like you don't even have a camera i was like i know but if i did i would like to do that you know what i mean you seem like the kind of guy i mean what's that camera right there i was gonna say you seem like the guy my friend christian millington bought it for me yeah yeah he saw the the passage he saw me. It's like film cameras. Yeah, he saw the passage.

But you took that photo that's framed right there. Yeah, I took these two photos. I took that one in Japan also on my phone. Yeah. And I just thought it was an interesting picture. So there's all these little things, you know, and then you find your niche. And the cool thing right now in, like, the world and society is, like, niches and, like, little things like that are so cool. Like, you can literally be anything you want. For sure. where it's just like that's like the realm i you know

yeah exactly mma it's comic books it's the best thing you can do anything talk about anything and people listen you have like an audience for it you know and like yeah sometimes people are like well you're not that so stop but like a lot of the time it can be used for such good if someone's passionate about it so that's kind of my thing so and then obviously artwork too. Yeah art What did that start when you were a kid were you drawn all the time or no? No, I don't even know when that happened You always drew butts. I just drew butts and like those weird diamonds It's like Jonah Hill in super bad when he's like drawn dicks on all his stuff Yeah, he just drew like butts, tornadoes and like the cool S's

The S's? Yeah, yeah, yeah You know where the art obsession started as far as drawing goes? Yeah, he just did, like, butts, tornadoes, and, like, the cool S. The S? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know where the art obsession started as far as drawing goes? No, I don't. And painting? Well, I will tell you, is Exit Through the Gift Shop. Dude, one of the best documentaries ever. One of the best documentaries ever. And I watched that, and I watched Mr. Brainwash and just how art is a brainwash.

So I thought it would be funny, like, right after that. And I, like, I think I hung, like, a flannel shirt on, like, a fake taxi. Oh, my God. Like, on a, actually, on that fake taxi, everything outside. They used to actually have Lorenzo's face on it. Yeah, and I put, like, I put, oh, yeah, there was a cutout of Lorenzo's face on it, but I put, like, a hat on it, put just like a flat like a flannel shirt under it and i literally posted on my um instagram like turning my heart into a my my my house into a

modern but contemporary socially meaning socially meaningful um something art and then somebody was like oh i get it how the cows are dead but it was once alive and people don't look at it people don't look at it they don't look at it as a person but it's just like us with its clothes and i was just like exactly and then i made like a slinky going down some stairs and people were like oh the slinky's rainbow and the rainbow community's getting like i was just like and then i was like, this is actually fun. You were like, I am now a gay pride. Yeah, exactly. But then I started. I will be in the parade this year.

So that was it. And now I just draw. And now I like more drawing, like, on people's faces and other faces. Because even that goes, to me, is nobody is what they seem. And not that they're faking it or anything. But it's like everyone has so much more to them. So even if I see, like, a model in a magazine, I'm just like, that's just her. But there's so much more to her. So even if I see like a model in a magazine, I'm just like, that's just her, but there's so much more to her.

So I just draw another face on her. And it's not a bad thing like they're being fake. It's all on your Instagram. You can go check it out. But anyway. And also, if you meet Joe,

ask him to draw something for you. That's what he wants to do. Yeah. Well, on my own picture specifically, like when I do the interviews, I was like, I was like,

I hope someone asked me to draw on my own face. But anyway, enough about that. Because we heard Damien Hirst, so Damien Hirst like comes to all the fights all the time. And we had heard that he draws on stuff. Like a dollar bill or something if you hand it to him.

And I'm so, I would ask him so badly. That's actually a cool thing, yeah. Like, little things like that. And then I was like, if I was signing my own autograph, it would be cool. Because you get, like, a small piece of original stuff without ruining the picture. Because I'd still, like, sign it or something. So anyway, that was my story. I think that's all i got for you guys oh my god don't leave we could go for years oh wait a minute no whatever you want this is the last thing that i said i

was gonna ask and we didn't what's the largest mammal you could knock out joe gonna be oh yeah the largest mammal and for megan olivi yeah when i heard that question, the first largest mammal I thought about was a moose. And I know moose are super aggressive. Yeah. But they can also be stationary targets, right? Because they're big. I mean, if it didn't move, I guess. Yeah.

And then the other thing, well, the thing is, like, I'm not going to knock out a bear because it's going to move and try to fight me. I guess a moose would do that, too. So maybe a deer or something. A deer? You're picking things with antlers. I feel like that's how you get a doe. What about, like, a doe? Yeah, something like that.

But this is the other thing. This is the other thing. You can't do that. The other thing with the moose is the long jaw, I think, allows, like, a lot more brain snap. Oh, you think it works like a human jaw? The brute jaw, like, if it's square, like, you think it works like a human's jaw? Because like the Bruch Joel, like if it's square, like you don't like it's not doing it. Hey, is the Benson Henderson thing a myth? Like if you keep your jaw clenched, are you more, are you less likely to get knocked out?

Yeah. Because even like you see people when they start opening their mouth, that's when they can get knocked out when they're tired in cardio. Because there's more boom, like rattle. But if it hits like a still object, like, you know, there's less rattle. But if it hits like a still object, like, you know, there's less rattle. But if you're like loose, it can go,

you know what I mean? So the moose jaw maybe. So that's a good one. All right, there you go. But maybe not. Even a cow. Let's go cow too. I mean, I think I could

like fuck anything up, but in reality, nothing. Have you ever tried to train? Probably just the girl. Oh, really? Yeah, just not jujitsu or wrestling.

I think the largest I'm the complete opposite I've only done jujitsu because I was like I don't want to get fucking hit why would I want to get hit but mitts and bags are fun

yeah because you get something else without it moving I can't I don't know how to throw I put like a bar on another person because like

unfortunately I have to use my face for work same that's why I don't do it but like you know why I don't do anything on the mats

is because growing up my brother always had ringworm. And then I remember one season on the Ultimate Fighter, people had like 8,000 ringworms all over them. And I'm like, I'm good. I've had a membership to Henzo's in the city for a long time. I really don't go often at all. Probably once in the last year. Horrible.

Really? It's tough. But I think that's it. You're the best! We love you! We'll definitely do it again the next time you guys are around. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. For sure. Thanks, guys. Alright, we're back.

It's My Mom's Basement. It's Robbie Fox. It's Sean O'Malley. It's Tim Welch. We are in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada right now. It's International Fight Week. I hate to start with this. Let's get it out of the way right off the bat. You were supposed to be fighting on Saturday. Why aren't you fighting on Saturday? Put it in layman's terms for the people.

Well, I have explained this about 400 times. I know. You can do it very briefly. Explain like it's a five-year-old. Look at me. No, I tested positive for a substance called Austrine. I have a hearing at the end of the month here in Vegas. UFC, USADA, my lawyer, they all said it sounds like after this hearing,

this will all be put behind. Even if I test for Austrian again for that low of levels, I'll be able to fight because we don't know why I'm testing for it. And is that almost the Jon Jones rule? If you test positive again, you'll be able to fight because it is that low level? Well, I think that rule is already set, and then it just happened again. I don't know. I haven't really been figuring. I don't know.

They're just telling me I'll be able to fight soon. That's pretty much. So when you initially failed for this, it was for UFC 229 back in October. You have that, and then you were booked for International Fight Week, another huge card. You have to pull out of that again. Does it become hard, and you could speak to this too

as his coach, does it become hard to not get into a mental attitude of like, fuck the man, fuck the establishment? Are people out to get me? Or are you just

calm, cool, collected about the whole thing? Mostly cool, calm, cool, but I have felt like that. I've had that rage. I'm like, what the fuck? How is this happening? Especially, you're a prospect.

This should be the time where you're really fighting often. I would have knocked out El Taco and Cheeto. Those are facts. Agreed. I'm missing out on some big paydays and two wins on my record. I'm healthy and I'm ready to fight. It sucks, but literally there's nothing I can do about it.

So I'm just trying to kind of... The thing that would make it better, though, is knowing a little bit where it came from. Having a fucking... Oh, you guys don't have an idea. I thought you guys knew. Like, oh, it's a supplement. Dude, no fucking clue. And it didn't come up in any of the supplements.

No clue. So we don't know if it is someone was fucking with us. We don't know why someone would do that, but I don't know if it's that. We don't know what it is. That's the thing that scares me the most. I don't... Where the fuck it came from. I don't really think it's that. We don't know what it is. That's the thing that scares me the most. Where the fuck it came from. I don't really think someone's talking about it.

Just because if you look, if you literally Google athletes that tested positive for Ostrein and there's a list that will come up. And Ostrein's the number one substance that comes up in failed tests that people say, I don't know why I failed. I have no idea. If you literally Google it, you'll see tons of athletes. There's like 30-year-old triathlete women that are on there like failing for Austrian, claiming they have no idea where it came from. A guy in the MLB, one of the pitchers just failed the test for Austrian.

Three of the Clemson football players failed the test for Austrian, and they were going to get drafted to the NFL. So it's a serious fucking hole. Seems like it's a fucking issue. But my name, I have the bigger name, so it's me that's in the spotlight. Hey, he failed, he failed. A bunch of people in the UFC failed for it. We had three guys that I know personally fail for it, and no one knows where it's coming from.

So, and you had surgery as well in this time off, right? Yeah. You had surgery? Yeah. You're back to training now? Yeah. What is taking through like an. You're back to training now? Yeah. What is taking through like an average day with you guys? Well.

At this point. At this point, being out of camp? Yeah. Okay. Like, are you still training hard? Or are you like, what the fuck, man? Well, I went through a full training camp, and I was in fucking good shape, ready to go. So now it's like, oh, okay, my-

You're saying it's for this one, not the last one. For this fight. Well, for both, I was in good shape. But this fight, I'm in fucking insane shape and I was ready to go. But now I'm not fighting, so I'm just training once a day. I'm not training twice a day. I'm just, like, training once a day. Fucking just to stay sane, dude.

Yeah. Work out once a day. And we work out once a day because we actually enjoy doing jiu-jitsu and working out. So still his main focus is his jiu-jitsu, which is technically his weakness anyway, so it still works out. Yeah, I'm pumped to be able to fight and then show my jiu-jitsu so it won't be like, oh, you know, we're going to do jiu-jitsu. I'll be like, just choke to black. Do you have any idea when, the hearing's at the end of the month, you said?

Yeah. Do you have any idea when you could get back? My lawyer said end of summer, but I don't know. And Jeff Novinsky, just at the PI, said, hey, hey man as soon as you go to this thing it should be taken care of no issue it should be all done

so it's fucking frustrating though it is it's like so if I go to my next fight have the same

amount of level of Austrian in my system I'll be able to fight they said I'll be able to fight they're getting

the guy that created Austrian the scientist that created Austrian they're bringing him to my hearing no they're bringing him to my hearing

for him to defend me oh okay got it and he's just going to kind of. Kill him. No, they're bringing him to my hearing for him to defend me. Oh, okay. Got it. And he's just going to kind of talk about how low my level is. Kill him. They might. They should book that fight. You should fight him.

Cheeto? Or the other guy. No, no, no. The guy that created Ostrich. He'd knock me out. Wait, really? Probably not.

I don't know. Probably not. He's only a buck twenty. I'm a buck twenty-five so then what? Five-two. So are you looking to fight before the end of the year I assume? MSG maybe? I don.20. I'm $1.25. So then what? $5.20. So are you looking to fight before the end of the year, I assume?

MSG, maybe? I don't know. I'm just fucking... The thing is, both these fights are almost finished with a fight camp. One more sparring session for both fights. So he finished the fucking camp. That's the worst thing about it. Going through a fight camp is hard fucking work.

I'm sure. And it's expensive. I'm not sure. I don't know about it. And it's expensive. I spent a lot of money going through fight camp camp is hard fucking work. I'm sure. And it's expensive. Well, I'm not sure. I don't know about it. And it's expensive. I spend a lot of money going through fight camp. It sucks. So you're just, we'll see what happens.

I'll get back in the cage as soon as I can? Yeah, pretty much. Just as soon as I can. When they let me know I'll be able to book a fight, I'll probably book a fight right then and there. Okay. Now, I want to talk to you guys about the stuff outside of training you do, like the mental side. Because I've watched all the Anatomy about the stuff outside of training you do, like the mental side.

Because I've watched all the Anatomy of the Fighters and stuff like that embedded with you guys. It seems like you guys take the mental aspect of MMA as important, if not more important, than the physical side. So are you still doing the meditation and you're reading about things and you're reading up on all that? Is that still part of your day-to-day life? We don't really do that for MMA. That's just, we do that just for life okay but uh yeah i'm sure it helps with mma though right oh it does totally the meditation stuff i started before you fight not at all no i'm cool with the fucking that's what the old the old coach robert cool as he followed tell me he's like everyone trains their jiu-jitsu they train their wrestling they train their

muay thai they train all this stuff but how many of them are training their mentality which is literally

probably one of the biggest fucking things in the sport how many of them are doing that reading

and figuring out where to put your mind when you're in some serious pain and how to

just I don't know really train your mind is a super important thing I think out of fighting and in fighting

out of fighting and in fighting. Out of fighting even more. For sure. Is Sean the first guy that you ever consider, hey, I'm his coach. Like, that's what I am for him. Is he the first for you? Yeah, and I only want one, two, three guys. I don't want to train fighters for a living because I don't want to

travel every fucking weekend. So was that important to you, though, bringing in the mental side with him? Because you guys live together, right? 100%, because I saw he had all the other attributes. He had the fucking athleticism. He has the fucking mentality, like stubborn, tough mentality.

I knew that shit would just add to it too, so. So that's why you do it. Plus he's fucking crazy anyway. If he didn't smoke weed and learn to meditate and learn to bring himself down to normal life, he's fucking wild. Now, here's what I want to talk about. You guys talked a lot about this on Rogan, but I think it's so crazy. A few years ago, just a few years ago, you had no tattoos.

You didn't really watch fighting much. You were just kind of a normal, I guess, suburban kid. And then all of a sudden, you're Sugar Sean O'Malley, and you're one of the most electric athletes that the UFC has on their roster. What do you think happened there? Because something clearly happened. I don't know. I just knew as, like, a little kid growing up. Didn't you not smoke a few years ago?

I didn't smoke until I moved to Arizona. Yeah, that's crazy. It's kind of your whole personality my dad's a cop my mom was a nurse and they think my mom still thinks

weed's fucking horrible for you so that's what I was getting engraved into my head in Helena Montana where I'm from then I moved to Phoenix

and I was like what the fuck and he's like take a rip and I was like no when I first came down I was like

no way but then when I moved down I did I don't think I got up for like. But it wasn't just no way. It was debating with me. No, weed's fucking bad for you. I'm like, no, it's not.

But whatever, I'm not going to push it on you, dude. But he tried. And he finally ended up doing it. He did try. Because living with him, he's like a fucking little engine, a little battery. Like we'd train twice a day and I'd be sitting there just chilling out. And he'd be just like, let's go fucking do something. Like a little fucking poodle.

So I was like, dude, smoke some weed and then he smoked some weed and I don't know. Like I was saying, ever since I was a little dude, I thought I was going to be like,

when I'd see someone on TV that was like, clear down like commercials or everything like, damn, I don't want to be like that and I kind of just chased that. I always felt like I wanted that

and I was super like, into material things. I wanted the women, the house, the money. I wanted that bad. I craved it. That's what got me to Arizona, and that's what got me through a lot of my fights. Most pro fights, too, until recently,

the last couple of years or so, I don't chase that. It's not my motivation. But I don't know. It's just chasing it. But fighting-wise, as soon as he was a pro,'d fucking touch people's right hand and touch people's left hand and they'd fall or kick someone in the head and they'd fall so he's slowly building this fucking strong strong mentality man if i just hit these motherfuckers they're gonna fall and i think that

was a big part of him just blowing up real fast knocking alfred out knocking that kid out in lfa and just knowing man i can hit a grown man, and he'll fucking crumple. Yeah, that's, were you a fighter growing up? Like, did you fight,

I hated it. No, I avoided confrontation. You hated fighting? My dad was watching the UFC one time, and I wanted to watch something else, so I went and told him that he was watching that, because me and my mom thought it was fucked up.

Like, what do you watch that? That's a real story. Bro, your entire life, I flipped on its head, in do you watch that? That's a real story. Bro, your entire life got flipped on its head in the last few years. It's crazy.

It's crazy. Let's get into some fun things. I have a ton of these because a bunch of people sent them in. I said, send in some

high hypotheticals. And there's some fucking crazy ones in here. And we've been smoking so it works out well to you. Shut up. Here we go.

Let's start it off with this one. For both of you. What do you think the largest mammal you could knock out with a single punch is? The largest one? Probably the kangaroo. I'd fucking... Yeah, right, dude.

That thing would kick you. Dude, you saw that video on Twitter where that dude smacked that kangaroo and fucking rocked his ass. Yeah, but that guy was probably fucking... Kangaroo crumpled up. I think a kangaroo would probably fuck you up. Not you, but I mean like me definitely.

An average human, for sure. For me it's probably... But those little fuckers, those little... He ain't got big arms. Who do you think can knock out what animal? I bet I could knock out a coyote. Seriously? For the dick? I want to say like... I don't want knock out a coyote. Seriously? For the dick.

I want to say, like, I don't want to say a dog. That's why I'm saying coyote, but that size. So you've knocked out a dog in the past? No, never. Bro, I fucking, Michael Vick, if you're watching this, like, I'll knock you out. Oh, shit. I got you. I'll bet 50 pay-per-view.

A monkey. Oh, shit, you definitely could knock out aper-view. A monkey. Oh, shit. You definitely could knock out a monkey, yeah. An ape. You think it's too fast? Too fast? Do you get a blind side of him, or you got to square up with him? You square up.

Fuck. Dude, I'd faint. Three, two. There you go. Pete is going to hate that segment. Would you still jack off if, when you came, your semen was just one big sperm, and afterward, you have to fight it? Depends how hard it was to fight. Oh, yeah, dude.

I'd be busting. I'd be fucking. Well, maybe that could be like the way you're getting sparring partners for Ken. Just busting like that's the opposite of the old testosterone thing. My sperm would be way too fucking fast to fight. I'd bet my sperm would kick my ass. Seriously? Is that heavy?

Yeah. That's what I love about it. Damn, Bobby. Just lay on top of me like DC. Damn, you're nuts. It'd be gross. How many second graders

could you beat up if they came at you in waves of ten and every five waves a fifth grade boss comes in? Fifth grade boss? That's a good question.

I'd like to think. So waves of... You could definitely get the first wave out, right? Well, you could have kids knock out in 30 seconds. It depends how crazy them kids are, dude. If they're biting you and shit. I forget how slow you are.

I didn't know I was like. I'll be sprinting and kicking. Ten, though, dude. It's not a four. It's ten. I'm taking out two bunches. Two rounds? You got two rounds?

I'm two rounds and I'm gas. I forget about that aspect. I would gas. Two bunches? That means two fifth grade bosses, too. I'm just using this mic now. Just because. I'd say three, just to one-up him.

All right. Way littler. More likely to take over the world in our lifetime, robots or aliens? Robots. I think it's got to be robots, right? Yeah. Those videos of the AI dogs opening the door handles, you see those? This shit is freaky, man.

Did you see the thing they created that's Rogan talking? Yeah. That's cool. That scared me. That's like Terminator 2 Skynet shit. God. Probably not in our lifetimes. No, I doubt it.

I hope not. I don't know, dude. How fast technology... You have no idea when aliens are going to roll in, though, and they're way more advanced than us. Yes, I do. You have no idea. Do you believe in aliens?

There's got to be something out there. There's got to be. I believe. I don't know about the Bob Lazar stuff, though. Did you see that? Yeah. I did. I watched the Rogan one.

I didn't see that. Do you not believe in Bob? So I watched both. The thing that confuses me... Bob seems like a good dudeuses me seems like a good dude he seems like a good dude and his story seems legit i want to believe it but then when rogan started pressing on me he was like i have a migraine i can't answer that right now did you watch the whole thing no yeah okay when was the last time you had a migraine and that prevented you from remembering but we don't know that's true what if he does he's also been selling this story if you the documentary, he's been selling this story since the 80s. It's like his full-time job is selling this story.

Damn, that's impressive. Very impressive, but also kind of sketchy. Yeah, for sure. He's a sketch, Bob. For sure. But Joe, you think Joe could expose it? If anyone could expose it, he could. That's a good point.

Yeah, I guess so. Jobin. What do you think chairs would look like if our knees bent the other way? Oh, my God. They would literally be flipped around, right? I would just say flat bench. Yeah. Flat bench is cumplop.

Like, just a cube? No back. Just plop it. If our legs bent the other way? Just a cube. Yep. Cube. All right.

This one's fucking. This one's a mind fucking. Oh, shit. You find a book, and you start reading it, only to realize it's the story of your life. You get to the page that is today. Do you keep going? No. And you can't change it?

No. Go with the flow. Yeah, no way. I think I say no, but if the book is in front of me and it's literally one page away, I'm definitely... Would it be harder to try to... I don't know. You ever read before bed and you're like, all right, the end of this chapter, but then it ends on a cliffhanger and you're like, oh, fuck, all right, one more. You don't think you would do that with a story of your life?

I can't read. You're not a read guy? No, I'm kidding. I can read fast as fuck. Some people can't read. No, I can read i can read no that would be fucking scary i don't think i would i would want to just see all the sexual experiences like if i can look at the glossary if you could get like if you could get an ebook and just search key terms yes exactly yeah just fucking until it's like and then he fucking died and you're like oh shit

now I know how I died he died fucking or he died getting fucked we do a series at Barstool called answer the internet and one of the questions is would you rather know how you're gonna die

or when you're gonna die damn that's a fucking dumb hard question I'd rather know how I'm gonna die not when but what if it's like car accident then every time you get into a car for the rest of your life you're like I'd rather know how I'm going to die Not when But what if it's like Car accident

Then every time you get into a car For the rest of your life You're like I'd rather love man For sure But if you knew when you were going to die If you knew when you were going to die You'd plan everything around that

That's true It'd be kind of nice to know Like if it's like 98 It's like alright Then I'm going to be wild For the next 50 years Or should I have a kid Or

Yeah For sure Yeah Fucking shit. All right. How do you know your memories are true? How do you know your memories are true? What if they're just not?

I feel like they are because right now just me saying that's a memory. What if that was like you're in the, what do they call it? Not the Matrix, but like the... I don't know. I'm not. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying, but fuck, dude. That could be true.

We don't fucking know. Fuck, man. How many wild birds do you think you've seen twice? What? I mean, that's... I thought about that. There's got to be a handful of them. Fucking eagles, dude.

Montana, remember? How many... Memories aren't even real. I thought about that. There's got to be a handful of them. Fucking Eagles, dude. Montana, remember? Memories aren't even real. Where am I? Did you just hear? It might not be. You and his eyes are closed. I was making a scene. Good God.

If you were pizza topping, what pizza topping would you be? Fucking extra cheese, baby. Just watered on there. I don't think you would be cheesy. No, he would be cheesy. You're not like a regular ass, like if you were like an accountant, you would be cheese.

So you're thinking red pepper? I don't think it's something spicy yet. Red pepper? Oh my God, dude. I'd definitely be an olive. All right, this one's tricky. Just like I don't like it. Just flick it off. This one's tricky.

Would you rather fight a chicken to death every time you got into a vehicle, or once a year you have to fight an orangutan with a broadsword? You'd die. With what? It depends if it's a little orangutan or not. You'd get a broadsword, Like an old medieval time style sword. I'd rather do that. Then if you die, you don't have to fucking fight a chicken for a year or every time you get in a car or whatever. It'd be a hell of a pay-per-view.

They'd be able to market the shit out of that around once a year. Is he out of his prime this year? Yeah, exactly. How big's the orangutan? I'd just buy a motorcycle. What? I'd sort of have to fight the chicken, you fucking idiot, every time I get in a car. Oh, shit.

I don't think about that. I was like, you can't drive away from the orangutan. I was like, what are you going to buy a motorcycle for? I don't want to fucking hit you over the head with a bike. If you could have any superpower you wanted, which one would you not want? Damn, I was hoping you said, which one would you want? No, I flipped it on you. I was thinking about this one on the plane. Definitely wouldn't want to be

the Hulk, right? Like, that seems like it sucks. Just being big, that huge... I just would skip on being Inspector Gadget. That's not a superpower. Are you serious? Bro, it's a robot. That's true. That's like Batman. He just has a bunch of robots and shit.

I wouldn't get rid of being invisible. No, not possible. Fuck no. Okay. I could just

sneak in anywhere and see a nice pair of tits. That's true. True. Just jack off anywhere. Yeah.

And then like 40 years into the superhero place, me too start happening. I don't know if that's a superhero

if all I use it for is just jacking off. It'd be the worst adventure ever. You'd teleport it into the final battle and you'd be like, I'm not ready, I'm not ready. I don't even know the answer. If you could bankrupt any person, company, country, or organization, who would it be?

Easy answer for me. The guy that made Ostrotain or whatever it is. Ostrotain. Peektagrams? Ostriches. Fucking A. That's a tough question. I don't really wish that. Well, maybe like pill people.

Soda. 100%. Soda? Yeah. Soda? Yeah. Soda's killing more fucking kids and making more kids go beast.

You know I stopped drinking this year? Stopped drinking soda this year? It's big of me because I was a huge Pepsi guy. Really?

Do you feel better noticeably or no? Nah, because I still eat like shit. Do you drink water all day? No,

I drink like peach and apple. God. I drink so much peach and apple you could streamline it into my veins. And your brain's pretty smart, obviously, right now. Imagine how more smart it would be if you gave your body exactly what it needed. Good fuel.

How much more creative you'd be or how much quick-witted you'd be. I live in New York City, though. You know how expensive it is to get good, healthy food in New York? Move. And also, I'm allergic to all fruit. Yeah, but isn't that fucked up? That is fucked up. But if you look at it that way,

if you're way more creative, it's going to bring in way more money and then you can buy as much organic food as you want. Ah, shit. Good point.

What are you proud of that you never have an excuse to talk about? Holy shit. That's the last one. That's the last one I got. My large wiener. No, just joking.

Oh, wow. Just jokes. Just jokes. I wish. Something to be proud of. I's the last one I got. My large wiener. No, just joking. Oh, wow. Just jokes. Just jokes. I wish. Something to be proud of. I fucking wish. What was the question? No,

it's a dream though. What are you proud of that you never talk about? Oh, how smart I am. How smart I am. That's a good one. That's a good one.

I don't see my IQ. I think that's a good note to wrap that up. Sean, Tim, thank you very much. This has been My Mom's Basement.