My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 161 - KAYLA HARRISON/KIMBO SLICE JR

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

Kayla Harrison joins Robbie in the Basement ahead of her PFL Lightweight Championship match (and shot at $1 million dollars!) to discuss her Olympic background, stint with Dan Lambert at AEW, and more - and then Kimbo Slice Jr joins the show to discuss his father's legacy, selling Kimbo's old fights as NFTs, his desire to move from mixed martial arts into boxing, and more. 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Go to CutsClothing.com/BASEMENT for 15% off the Only Shirt Worth Wearing HelloFresh: Use code 14ROBBIE to receive 14 FREE MEALS at HelloFresh.com/14ROBBIE Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Yeah, just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3Chi. I am your host, Robbie Fox, and today I've got a mixed martial arts edition of the show for you. Kicking things off is Kayla Harrison, one of the baddest women on the planet, 11 and 0 in mixed martial arts competition. She fights in

the PFL. She's a two-time gold medalist in the Olympics. She used to be roommates with Ronda Rousey. We get into all of it. She was even on Impractical Jokers. You might recognize her from that. And then Kimbo Slice Jr. joins the show to discuss his father's legacy, selling his father's old street fights as NFTs, his jump into boxing. He actually wants to fight in Rough and Rowdy. I'm not shitting you. It's a good interview. Two good interviews actually on this show. First, let me remind everyone about our presenting sponsor.

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How are you, Kayla? We're pretty close to the fight at this point. So like, where are you at mentally? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Everything's been good. You know, training's been great. I live in sunny South Florida, so the weather's been good. You know, training has been great. I live in sunny South Florida. So the weather's

been great. Life is good. Everything's right on track. I'm ready. I saw you were doing tons of media for this fight. And I assume everyone is asking you about free agency. I'm not going to do that. But I'm just going to ask this. If money were no object, if companies were no object, let's say let's take UFC, PFL, Bellator all out of the equation. And let's just say there's a fictional MMA company. Would you rather they have the structured schedule of the PFL, the season turnout, or more like a UFC Bellator?

For sure. I'd rather have the structure of a season. I think that every fighter would agree with that, you know? Really? I mean, yeah. If you're going to get paid the same no matter what, why wouldn't you want to know your schedule for the year? Why wouldn't you want to know, like, if I win, I advance?

You got to stay really active, right? That's the flip side. I mean, the one thing is I would want the season to be elongated. Like, four fights in five and a half months is a little ridiculous. Yeah, that's what I mean, yeah. No, that's parts insane for sure but I mean if you start the season in whatever March and you end it in November that's better than starting it in June and ending in October do you think that you're like taking a liking to that structure comes from your background in judo and the Olympics and stuff?

Yeah, for sure. I think, you know, I grew up in a sport where we didn't even have a season. You know, there was we had more like tours. Judo had like the Pan American tour, the Asian tour, the European tour. Then you had the world championships, the Pan Am Games. So I was competing once or twice a month, like every month, there was a point where I was in Europe for like two months straight, just tournament, tournament, tournament, tournament, training camp, tournament, training camp, tournament, training camp. Like, um, so yeah, for sure that that style suits me, but I think more than anything, it's's just like you're in control of your destiny

you know if you want to win a million dollars all you have to do is win if you want to be the best all you have to do is win it's not according to what this guy sitting in the chair who's never fought a day in his life thinks it's according to what you do inside the cage yeah I saw your last fight you gave a six out of ten for yourself i know that you're your own worst critic i think we're all our own worst critics right what would it take for you to get a nine out of ten in this upcoming fight i'm not even going to go 10 out of 10 that's a perfect story exactly right it can always be better but i mean last fight was a dominant first round tko i mean you

got you didn't even get hit yeah i just saw some areas that i could have worked on you know i saw some things that needed needed to be addressed which is good every time i get in that cage i grow as a competitor i don't know what would take a nine out of ten maybe if i got like a knockout or something in like a like a masvidal running knee are you giving that a nine out of ten for yourself i would never try and replicate that bum i he's on my shit list right now really yeah because the team captain comment yeah yeah i saw that yeah i don't i understand why he's on your shit list. Yeah. That little troll. Um, no, he's actually, he's a great co-captain. He always brings good energy to the gym when he shows up, which is why he's not the captain because part of being the captain is being accountable. Even

when I'm not in camp, I'm at the gym. Um, no, he's the best. I, he, I have nothing but good things to say about him he needs to cut his hair but other than that no i don't like to hear that as a guy with like come on masvidal keep going keep going there are days from the long hair comment to the guy in a chair who's never fought on a day in his life comment i feel like we're at early yeah um no but you're not like i'm sure that you don't like talk shit and say like who's the best like there's there's nothing wrong with not fighting just don't like this is something that i've really come to terms with uh as i've gotten older and i'm gonna i'm gonna give props

to brené brown because she's a spiritual gangster. If she has a Netflix on special, a special on Netflix, if anyone hasn't watched it, you should go watch it. Anyways, whatever. I used to get so upset by what other people thought of me. I used to be like very insecure about myself. I used to think like, you know, the people on Twitter who call me a transvestite and, you know, tell me I'm on steroids. And I used to get super upset by all of these comments and what, you know, some fan thought of me versus I used to just really take it all to heart. And then I realized something. You're only allowed to have an opinion on my life from this point on an opinion that matters to me. If you are also striving for greatness or

being vulnerable with your life, like the man in the arena, right? Like if you're not out there, like putting yourself out there, chasing a goal, chasing a dream, hustling, you don't even have to be hustling. If you're not willing to be vulnerable in your life, then your opinion doesn't matter to me anymore. So I am in the arena, so I do have an opinion, but it's not about hair. Okay. So you should keep your hair if you want to keep your damn hair. All right, cool. Rock and roll. I've seen you say that your confidence comes from your prior experiences, like the finals you said to I think it was Ariel Hawani months ago like nothing is ever going to come close to the Olympic finals how did your first Olympic final compare to your second in terms of the pressure that you felt yeah like by the second were you still feeling the most

pressure you ever felt or were you a little more accustomed to it? No, I mean, I was definitely, that was like my, that was my normal at that point. I had spent so many years traveling, training, competing, being in high pressure, final situations. You know, the first Olympics was scary because no one had ever done it. Like it was like, no one had ever won a gold medal for the US so I was like oh my god am I gonna mess this up like don't mess this up you know um but I just knew that I trained so hard and I wanted it and I deserved to win and then the second finals really the whole day was kind of like a blur like I was was just like, boom, boom, boom. And then I fought a very, you know, um, a girl I have fought many times in the final. I actually had just been in France

training with her a month before the Olympics. And it was just another scenario where it was like, I deserve to win. I know I trained twice as hard as this girl and I'm going to go out there and I'm going to instill my will and I'm going to find a way to win. So yeah, they're both high pressure. But at the end of the day, that's I mean, I'm built for that. I'm built for the lights, you know, the brighter, the better. Do you think anything in your mixed martial arts career will compare in the feeling that you had after winning the gold medals? Like I see you say all the time you want to be the definitive baddest woman on the planet. If you know, the entire MMA world is referring to you as this in a couple of years, like currently they refer to Amanda Nunez. Is that the peak of the mountain

for you? Um, yeah, I think, yeah, I think if I continue to dominate and I continue to to go down that path and I'm able to collect more gold and I'm sure that it's gonna feel pretty damn good you know I don't I mean I don't know but it's also like I was so young when I won the Olympics I was so um like doe-eyed and like now I'm just like all right this is my job I love it I get to kick people's asses but a little more jaded yeah yeah understandably so as well two-time Olympic champion I think you can feel a little bit jaded um I became a mom so everything is kind of in a different perspective now versus then like when I when I was on top of the Olympic podium, it was like the first time Emery said I love you like even though I didn't birth them the first time you know those little moments like our very first Christmas together and just things like that they take on a

whole new meaning for me and like the memories we're creating the things we're doing just watching them thrive and like turn into these little humans because of me, like, dude, being a parent is awesome. It's like really, really, really, really, really hard. And I don't sleep pretty much anymore, but it's awesome. So that's also why I think the perspective is different. Like, yeah, winning belts is cool. Making money is cool. Punching people in the face is cool. Like I love what I do. And selfishly, I want to be the best in the world at it. But at the end of the day, like my kids don't care. They don't care if I win or lose or like, you know, talk shit or don't talk shit or

they just care that I come home and love them. You know, that's heartwarming. It really is, especially coming from someone who's going to go like beat the shit out of someone this weekend i know this is barstools all that field game mommy crap no i was gonna ask you there's some adorable videos of you like doing judo with your with your nephew and stuff i know he's a bit young but has your niece watched you fight or will she yeah she's coming next week with my mom um emory he is absolutely not allowed yeah first of all i mean we bedtime is like 7 30 sharp at this household right nice um but also he i don't know if it's different with guys or something with boys but he is like a little he's a terror okay he watches you fight and he's ready to go yeah it just he's just like

he's just a menace to society right now he turns three on saturday and kyla like although i didn't have her at this age she's always been kind of sweet and like she does judo too like she loves judo but she's more you know docile fearless but like she's not gonna like run up and scream in your face like emory like from the moment he wakes up until the moment i like put him in his bed kicking and screaming and then he just like passes out like he is non-stop full go like pedal to the metal like running around the house butt naked like pete like just like throwing things jumping off things i'm like dude you're gonna die and they're gonna think that i'm a bad mom like you need to stop doing this you're insane but he just has a lot of energy

yeah something that i think all of your fans know and a lot of mixed martial arts fans but maybe some barstool fans don't know is that you were actually roommates with Ronda Rousey for a period of time. I think when you were like 16, is that right? Yeah. What was it like seeing her career explode, having known her prior from the judo world, which usually doesn't get the shine that it deserves, maybe? Oh, I mean, it was awesome. It was crazy. It had to be surreal, right?

Well, it was so you know it was crazy because it had to be surreal right well it was so surreal to see this I mean we were kids really you know when we lived together and like dude I remember like on Sundays when we had the day off we'd go down to Newberry Street and um walk around and it's like this fancy street in Boston and yeah Newberry Comics is on that block that's right and I was always I was always like I'm gonna make it someday I'm gonna live on this street and Rhonda would like buy me lunch because I had no money and like that was at my at that point in time that was my goal and to watch Rhonda become the person who was on the cover of magazines at Newberry Comics you know like to see that happen was awesome and also made me super jealous and I was like dang I want to do

that like yeah she could do it I could do it you know like it was I have a Rhonda complex I always tell everyone like uh when I moved boston she was the center of attention she was a star and i was like i want to be the star so i had to train twice as hard and she's always been my rabbit you know which has been good because she's accomplished so much and she's she's done so much for the sport of course nobody's done more for women's mma women in general i feel like she's just shattered so many ceilings and no one could ever take that away from her. You know, she did that like just through sheer will and determination, like data, let me fight in the U S you know, like she, and she was the perfect person at the perfect time. Like I would have never had the balls to do that. I would have

never been like, let me thought, you know, like I would just been like let me thought you know like I would just been like hey you know I want to be good and I don't know I see your post-fight interviews but like at that time she was perfect she did it's been really awesome to watch her career and watch her grow um and I wish her nothing but the best you know now she after mixed martial arts went into another one of my loves professional wrestling and I know you don't love it too much I know you're another one another professional wrestling fan another professional wrestling fan and what I'm here to tell you is I know it took you a little bit to warm up to MMA I think it's gonna happen with pro wrestling Kayla you just need a few more stints with dan lambert maybe they can you know what i tell next time you want to know what i tell dan and you tell dan uh wrestling fans are gonna start to hate me here pretty soon i told him maybe that's for the best

kayla maybe you're just building a heel resume before you even jump over that means ariel keep using all this like wrestling jargon he was like he said what did he say to me yesterday like shoot or yeah shoot her work shoot her work and i was like what what does that mean it's a whole new vocabulary we'll teach you when you jump into the world no i told i said i told dan i said i worked very hard my whole life to get out of the trailer park so why would i want to become the entertainment for the trailer oh kayla says the mma fighter come on that's a bit hypocritical it's not real wrestling isn't real what's your favorite show kayla on netflix i don't watch tv very often what's your favorite movie rocky three it's not real i know that but why do you like it i don't know because i got you on that one kayla oh okay but it's like dude these people think they like

nobody thinks it's real i mean i did when i was little i watched it when i was exactly yeah and then i grew up i realized like wrestling's not real it's i i mean i did when i was little i watched it when i was exactly yeah and then i grew up i realized like wrestling's not real it's i would rather just watch a real fight like this you guys like this is art to you huh like it's like going to a broadway show you mock what you don't understand yeah for for yeah but there's slams and there's a you know junior dos santos throwing people through tables and you know. So do you like critique the moves and stuff? Like, do you like watch the act and you're like, hmm, you should have done that.

Do you really? Like that's how. Like, like you would critique like a movie. You'd be like, oh yeah, that person is such a good actor in that. You know what I will say though? I do like how much a part of the show, the act, the fans are. Oh yeah. Like if they're supposed to hate you, they hate you.

Yeah. And they're supposed to love you they hate you yeah and they're supposed to love you they love you and i like that i like the um how into it they get at that well it's especially that way in aew you got to experience it there like in some other companies wwe they'll try to like present someone as this is the good guy the new superman of the company and the fans will reject it they'll be like nah fuck that Yeah. Really? They decide back and forth. They're like, she lives, she dies. Yeah. That's pretty cool. No, no, I don't like, no, stop trying to, no.

You're going to warm up to it, Kayla. With these bad boys. Okay. They're steel cage matches. You got to escape the cage to win though. With like a suitcase full of money. Is that it? There is a money in the bank briefcase. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you've seen that. All right. Another thing that I want to talk to you about, I'm sure you get asked about this a lot,

but I got to ask about your stint on impractical jokers. Cause I thought that was so damn funny. What was that? That's what I'm most famous for, but for males, the age of like between 18 and 40 everyone's like i know her from college thank you i actually won two olympical medals for our country but i did also throw myrrh through a table so pretty funny no it was a blast it was so much fun i actually had never seen the show um and my assistant has three two boys and um impractical jokers emailed my uh email and was like hey we want to have kayla on and she was like dude you have got to do this show like if you do

anything for me this year do this show and i was like okay cool i went to the hamptons to some fancy ass house and they were throwing a party and they were like we just want you to beat the shit out of Murr and I was like okay like whatever nobody knew about it except for me and the three guys yeah so Murr shows up and he we just like I just like beat the shit out they loved it they asked me if I wanted a job they wanted me to do a movie but it was like a week before my debut to film and i was like thanks like i had a blast it was super fun i hope to see you on like a future season hopefully the schedule is aligned and you could like beat the shit out of q or

something that'd be fun finally what is your prediction for the fight and give me one thing one fun thing you plan on buying with your million dollars fun thing um well i predict that i'm gonna go out there and win by round again you think however long it takes i don't put any pressure on myself just ko tko or submission that's the goal you know to go out there and instill my will one round at a time one minute at a time one breath at a time one exchange at a time um and i am going to buy i don't really need anything maybe get dan lambert one of those replica belts oh my god do you know he has an entire he has like a collection in his i've heard you say that yeah you could add one to the collection room full of belts for fake fighting

like think about that think about the left level of like and i mean we're talking this guy had to i got this tiny one look like he's got like hulk hogan's for oh my god what do you think of that i want to say something really mean but i won't't. Say it. No. It's far still. You could say it. It fits your biceps. I wish you didn't say it. Wish you didn't say it. No, that's the worst.

You know, Hulk Hogan used to say he had 24-inch pythons. I got like 2.4-inch pythons. Get it, boy. Everybody's got to start somewhere. All right, Kayla, this has been a blast. I'm really looking forward to your fight. As always, whenever you're in the cage, you're a must watch fighter.

So everyone check her out. PFL, it's October 27th. She'll be fighting for not only the lightweight championship, but $1 million. It's pretty awesome. Kayla, thank you very much for the time. Thank you so much for having me. It was actually a really good interview.

Appreciate it. Oh, I'm glad. Pleasantly surprised, Barstool. We're not all bad. We're not all bad. Probably. I appreciate it oh i'm glad pleasantly surprised barstool we're not all bad we're not all bad probably i appreciate it all right thanks kayla for joining the show that was a great chat a lot of fun it's only a matter of time until she's in the front row of an aew or wwe show shearing her head off and then she'll jump the rail like ronda rousey hit a move and boom she she'll fall in love with it like that.

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this interview with Kimbo Slice Jr. All right, welcome back to my mom's basement with Robbie Fox. I am here with Kimbo Slice Jr. We are here talking about the legacy collective NFT. You're in the NFT world. I see on Twitter all the time you're tweeting NFTs, you're tweeting SafeMoon, you're really fascinated by this whole world outside of fighting, right? So let's start there. Tell me about nfts i don't i'm really a novice to this world i know i look like a nerd i look like i should know what i'm talking about here but i don't well the only thing i know really about it is like digital art you know okay so yeah so i guess that's like the example everybody use and everybody acts like what

is it and they say digital art and then people still don't know what it is so i still don't know what it is i just know it's uh it's very cool you can like get creative with it yeah and uh i'm a fan of it so you got one coming out i got a lot of a lot of them coming out actually i could do i'm gonna do things with my dad do things with myself and yeah so i was gonna say i've seen like viral videos go for you know crazy amount of money charlie bit my finger, sold for a million dollars as an NFT. Would you do your dad's old viral videos and fights? You know what I'm going to say, which is funny because I didn't know that they released one. And I was thinking, man, they should release one because they went –

Charlie bit me and my dad's first fight was neck and neck when YouTube first came out. Those were the two videos, the most viewed like um videos on youtube back back then yeah so i'm that's pretty cool that they released the video i think they pulled it from youtube and sold it as an nft so now there's you know like one owner of the video that's super smart though so would you do that with like your dad's old videos oh yeah of course that's the plan that's awesome and when he has like so many um street. So that's, like, kind of perfect, you know. And you guys still own the rights to all of them, I assume, right? Oh, yeah, we own the rights to everything.

Because it's his promotion when he's putting them out. His promotion, our management team, everything, yeah. So it's our stuff. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, there's so many classic ones. The one where the guy's eye comes out. Oh, man, can you imagine? Oh, my God, yeah.

People love those. They love those videos. I see you tweeting SafeMoon all the time, too. Yeah, I'm a big holder in SafeMoon. So I'm a holder uh holder in safe moon so i'm a holder in safe moon as well because our guy dave portnoy who founded barstool and everything went all in on safe moon and he told all the employees like i'm gonna go all in on safe moon and i lost my money on it am i yeah yeah yeah i think i went in at the peak i so i invested in

safe moon like the first so they So they released in April, right? Yeah, April. So maybe the ending of April is when I. Yeah. So like the last two weeks of April, I got into it. Like I took everything out of Dogecoin, out of like ADA. So you're all in on SafeMoon? Right now, yeah, I'm all in on SafeMoon.

I have like a couple shares of Dogecoin still, but I took everything out of like Bitcoin. Everything on Coinbase, I had ADA. I had so much stuff on Coinbase that I just transferred all to SafeMoon. Wow, unreal. I guess I got to have diamond hands too. Yeah, the owner, John, man, made him like talk all the time. Oh, yeah? Yeah, you know, shout out to John.

He's doing his thing. Shout out to John, yeah. But yeah, and then you get reflections and all that. So the more you hold, the more you get. It comes back, right, to you when people sell or when people get rid of theirs. It comes back to us. 100%. I'm actually up right now, and they're down.

They're like down to when I invested, they was kind of at their peak. Yeah. But then they went down a lot. But I'm still up, so I didn't lose anything. I'm just going to keep holding. Yeah, just hold. You and me, we're in it together all right sir um speaking of the old kimbo slice nfts like viral videos that you could make nfts do you have a favorite video from back in the day like a favorite viral video uh from my dad right yeah um on this stage man there's so many videos that can do numbers.

It's like you just pick which one you want to see. But my favorite is he fought this guy in a boat yard. He had dreads. He hit him with an uppercut and just dropped him. And I think that would be one of the craziest NFT drops. If you just add that to it with something else in the background, I don't know. I think that would be insane. Yeah.

But all his videos are just so like legendary at this point, you know. So it's just like the waiting game, you know. When was the first time you saw one of those videos, like as a kid? Sixth grade, I think. I was in sixth grade. Actually, he came home super bloody, though, from a fight. But it wasn't his blood so he had a tower around his head and it was the big d fight you know with the eye yeah oh yeah his

his pants was bloodied up and he walked in with the tower on his head and he was just like but when he walked in and went straight to the room so everybody we're like looking at each other like oh no what happened you know like and then he comes out with like pocket full of you know money it's like i want it and i didn't get hit, and we was like, we didn't understand it, and I guess. So at that point, you didn't know he was a fighter? Well, we knew, we always knew he was a fighter because I was training, but we didn't, I was just, he just had me training, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so the fighting in our family, that's just what it was, but we never knew our, like, dad was fighting in a sense. So when he came home, bloodied up, well, it wasn't his blood, but that a sense so when he came home bloodied up well it wasn't his blood but that's what we thought he was bloodied up he walked straight to the back you know the back room and um he came out pocket full of you know money showed us the money and i guess at this time he was like they have to edit the video but i didn't know what editing video means yeah i mean back then so but then we actually saw the fight and we was the first to see it before it went like viral and the news did he like sit And we was the first to see it before it went, like, viral in the news. Did he, like, sit you down and show it to you?

Yeah, I went to the office, his office. And then we watched it there, you know. So it was crazy. Did you think it was awesome? Or were you, like, terrified because it's your dad fighting in your life? I was like, I'm next. When can I do it? Oh, really?

At that young, you were into it? Yeah, 15, 16. I'm like, I watched it, and I was just like, oh, yeah, this is, I got to do is i gotta do this for sure wow i mean i've been trained this is what i've been training for and now i see like my dad do it's like oh yeah i'm doing it there's nothing you can say that you know what's happening what was the first fight you ever got into do you remember that like oh street fight for sure how young um who uh so i met my brother. We linked up. He was four. I think I was 10, 11. But it wasn't just one person, though. It was like a big group?

Yeah, so all my fights. No, well, it was like three people against me. And most of my fights I was taking up from my brothers, honestly speaking. I was going to say, you're one of 12? Yeah, and I'm the oldest, though. Oh, wow. So you got it all band together. If someone picks on one of your younger fighters.

They didn't fight. No, they said. So I asked them now, which is funny. I'm like, so though. Oh, wow. So you got it all band together. If someone picks on one of your younger siblings. They didn't fight. No, they said. So I asked them now, which is funny. I'm like, so why y'all never help me? They were like, you had it. They were so amazed of what was happening. They was just like, we didn't. We was just amazed.

We was watching. That's wild. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. All my fights was like that. Would people like, would kids try to mess with you because of who your dad was or the opposite? The opposite. They'll want to be cool with me, but then try to mess with my because of who your dad was or the opposite um the opposite they'll want to be cool with me but then try to mess with my little brothers you know that's the weird part you know it's like everyone's scared of the older brother for some reason but the younger brother is the one who has the proof itself so yeah that's how it was like

growing up you know and when did your dad start like actually training you when did you start going to the gym with him so i got into a fight when I was in the eighth grade against a 12th grader. And I broke his jaw, knocked out some of his teeth. It was just one punch. It was kind of crazy. Holy shit. At that point, he was like, yeah, you can't do this on the street no more. He was like, this is it.

And we had to pay for his doctor bill. Because he had to get a wire. He had to get wired up. Oh, my God. An eighth grader doing that to a senior in eighth grade. Right, right. So I didn't really get in trouble for it. But it was like, you just have to get wired up my god an eighth grader doing that to a senior right right so i didn't really get in trouble for it but it was like you just have to like cover his doctor bill yeah because that's fair you know so after that it was like all right go to the gym now you

know train wrestle in high school yeah it was to that point no more street fighting and i was only what eighth grade like 16 maybe 15 at that point maybe even younger yeah yeah probably younger you know so how how was your dad as a trainer did he flip the dad switch off and became like a total poacher was there still like uh yeah it was he was actually nicer as a trainer than a dad which is kind of funny yeah now that i think about it um when he was in dad mode he was a lot meaner but in training he was like super cool you know it's kind of crazy i think that's the first time he's actually thinking about it like that did you like like the experience of getting to bond with him in that way oh yeah for sure him showing you actually like you know the tools to fight yeah we yeah we got a lot we got along uh

better when it was training and sparring in a gym and stuff like that you know it was uh much cooler you know when he realized I couldn't fight on the streets because I had like that gift that power so he had to like train me you know and keep me with him so I could just stay focused stay on the right track what was he like when you were wrestling in high school like would he show up to the meets and be the crazy dad nah he would he'd be in a cut he said he always told me he didn't want the spotlight to be taken off of me so if he was there I wouldn't even see him he would be in a cut. He said he always told me he didn't want the spotlight taking off of me. So if he was there, I wouldn't even see him. He would be in the back like behind the bleachers just watching or at the football games. He's like at the top somewhere with the in the booth. So no one like can actually see him here sneaking all the events.

Did you like wrestling in high school or was that like a toned down version of what you wanted to do in your mind? So I played football and I ran track you know track was cool and football had to depend on too many people so it was like if this guy doesn't make a block now i'm stuck having to get shake off like four or five guys in the backfield so i started to not like football anymore because of that reason so i went straight into wrestling and it was, forget all sports. I'm going to just stick to the, depend on myself. It's just me. And we have a team, but the team, when you go so far, once you step into that circle. Like MMA.

Yeah, exactly like MMA. And yeah, that's so, I like wrestling much better. And your dad was insistent on you going to college, I read too, right? Is that true? Yeah, he didn't, he didn't want me to fight actually. He wanted me to go to school and go to college and get a degree even after you had been training a little bit with him even after that yeah he didn't want he didn't want me to to fight you know why is that you think I'm not sure maybe the the hurt on your body maybe I don't know it could

be so many reasons now that I'm older and understanding like the whole sport and the business behind it I could I'm like okay now I see probably why he didn't want me to yeah because i wouldn't want my brothers or you know my younger true siblings to fight so yeah even like like you said the business surrounding it could be right that's the reason yeah yeah that's the real reason everything the fighting i love right yeah fighting i love i love fighting i would do that no matter what no matter how much money i got i will always train and fight. But I'll do it on my terms. Yeah.

Bare-knuckle boxing is something I've seen you bring up as something that Kimbo would have, like, ran the game in. And I believe that as well. Is that something that you think you would consider or no? I have to do bare-knuckle boxing. Yeah? That's, like, mandatory. MMA is not, like, solidifying my legacy with mma he did mma just because of the money he started as a street fighter that's where everybody knew him from so for me to be a fighter and not do that it's like what are you doing you know i don't know like mma is cool boxing is cool

but bare knuckle fighting i i have to do a bare knknuckle match, you know, at least one. Yeah. I mean, it would be so awesome. Just your name on the card exactly. Yeah, I would sell out the stadium. Pay-per-view buyers would be at an all-time high. I'm the only second-generation bare-knuckle fighter. There's no other. Wow, you probably are, right? There's no other.

That's nuts. It may be, but I doubt it is going to be anytime soon i mean not one of this level you know i mean we're talking yeah exactly so the son of the greatest street fighter ever boxing is my my thing yeah you've been posting a lot about boxing lately is that like are you looking to move away from mixed martial arts and move into boxing oh yeah that's the plan right now it is yeah are you still under contract with bellator? No. So I learned if you sign more than one fight at a time, you're kind of locked into your agreement. You're locked into that. So at the beginning of my career, I had a lot of opportunities that I couldn't do because I had to fulfill my agreements with Bellator,

which is nothing bad. It's just how it goes when the company wants to protect their athlete, you know, their investment. So, and I understand that. But now I just want to do, like, one fight at a time. But I want to focus more on, like, the boxing side of it because that's my thing, you know. I'm a boxer. I started off boxing. MMA was, like, later, you know, just because.

But boxing is my thing. So when you're looking to go into boxing, are you looking to have, like, hey, give me an amateur fight, give me a professional fight, give me a celebrity fight? I saw you on Instagram. Were you calling out like Aaron Carter? Well, he called me out. Oh, he called you out first? Yeah, I don't know if he wants to really do that. But I think that's the route I want to take.

Probably like the celebrity boxing YouTubers, all that. That's where the money's at right now. So that's like you're watching that and it's intriguing to you yeah that's yeah for sure do you think Jake Paul's legit when you watch him fight um he yeah he's getting better and better as like time goes on like the Woodley fight impressed you yeah

the more time you give him you could tell he's dedicated you could tell like he's not joking around with it what do you think about Woodley getting the tattoo I love Jake Paul smart move if he wants to get that rematch around with it. What do you think about Woodley getting the tattoo? I love Jake Paul. Smart move. If he wants to get that rematch, why not cash out again? I don't know, man. If he doesn't get that rematch, it's a rough look.

Oh yeah, then it's bad. I mean, they shook hands. I feel like when you shake a person's hand and agree to something. Jake says he's not doing it now. See, that's a bad move on Jake's part. Yeah, he's like, the intrigue isn't there. He said, if you get it, we'll do a rematch. They shook on it.

Yeah. You got to, you know, that's... And now Tiger's stuck with an I love Jake. If it's real. If it's real. Right. I did see a video of him getting it. I guess it could be like fake ink.

Yeah, it's tough. That's tough. I guess we'll never know until we actually see him in person. Yeah. When do you actually want to get in there and fight? Because it's been a while since we've seen you in the cage. November 2020, I think? Yeah, as soon as possible, man.

Like, let's plan for December or January, you know. I'm always in shape. I'm always training. It ain't nothing for me to cut pounds. I'll be boxing at, like, I could make from 47 to 70. I wonder if you could fight in rough and rowdy. You know what rough and rowdy is? Yeah, I watched it all the time, yeah.

I wonder if it's, like Rough and Rowdy you know what Rough and Rowdy is? I watched it all the time I wonder if it's like amateur regulations or professional something are those guys professionals? no they're all amateurs which is tough I wonder if we could make some kind of like thing where you could fight another celebrity if I'm pro MMA I'm pro boxing I don't know if I could go amateur boxing at this point

maybe we could make one like pro exhibition for the card. I think that would be pretty awesome. I'm down. Sign me up. Let me know. Absolutely. Slicing rough and rowdy.

Oh, yeah. Let's do it. I think I'd be down for that. Yeah, for sure. Finally, I want to ask you, I see you talk all the time about continuing your father's legacy. Right. And you say, you know, like, I'm glad to be brought up with him because I want to continue that legacy that he brought in. How would you put that legacy into words?

I always thought continuing his legacy would have been like fighting or trying to be a champion and that. But I don't know, man. The more like I'm starting to understand the game and, you know, learn how all of this is, how the business work. I'm thinking like it ain't about the fighting anymore it's about like generational wealth and yeah you know creating a business something that's mine like i'm i'm fighting for other people's company like this is not mine it would never be

mine i just have a part of it and a small part of that so i want to create something of my own like create my own legacy that will continue his legacy at the same time yeah because yeah i mean he does have a few different legacies at this point because i have a lot of friends at bellator and pr and stuff and they all view him as the greatest guy to work with right the you know family man kimbo for sure and then you have the legacy of like the fans who are like greatest Street Fighter of all time, greatest viral videos to ever come out. Then you got the boxing. Then you got the boxing.

Then you've got the... Drake and Josh. Drake and Josh. The movie scene. And then he went and fought Ken Shamrock too, which is like, are you kidding me? Road Warrior Animals coming out with Ken Shamrock? It was like, that was such an over-the-top, amazing circus-like Bellator event. I think they started the whole walkout.

Not before boxing, but like MMA event. I think they started the whole walkout. Not before boxing, but MMA side. I agree. In Bellator. Still, they haven't done nothing like that ever since then. Who are your favorite boxers to watch, I guess, if you're looking to get into boxing? Right now, Floyd's number one.

If I have a top five, it's Floyd and Roy Jones Jr., Muhammad Ali. What do you think about floyd doing the logan paul fight you think it's smart move yeah smart move yeah smart move he was never in a position to lose that fight right not at all he wasn't it was it's easy money man boxing has old money like like they've been doing this for like back in the days when they was fighting like this yeah you know so they they're good man that's why you just i have to box you know and i have to do a bare knuckle you know um fight but i'll box first and then do bare knuckle so do you have like

a name that you want to call out or you just want to get into the sport see that's what everybody asks me like who you're beefing with and like everybody's cool with me everybody loves my dad so nobody's coming in like disrespecting me and then if they are, like, if they, so. Do you want to wish they would? I mean, I don't really. That's not my thing. I don't fight angry. So even if you try to, like, oh, you're not this. It doesn't even matter to me.

A fight is a fight at the end of the day. So I get it. I get that it's entertainment. But most guys come off disrespectful and end up apologizing, like, an hour later when I don't respond. They're like, my bad, man. I just wanted to try to get a fight. Or I'm like i respect your dad so i just wanted to see like how you coming we get that at barstool too the second you respond yeah oh i didn't think you would see this so right yeah so i'm like it's no it's not real it's not personal so at this point it's just

entertainment like no one's beefing with me like i'll fight anybody like just sign me up you know nfl guys basketball lamar odom it doesn't even matter like it doesn't matter to me like let's Like, I'll fight anybody. Like, just sign me up. You know, NFL guys, basketball, Lamar Odom. It doesn't even matter. It doesn't matter to me. Like, let's do it, you know? I'd be down to see it. I think your name carries a lot. I know Chad Johnson.

He's fighting, but he's from Miami. So it's like. But maybe that's the thing. Maybe you do the clash of Miami in Miami. No, we're just having fun, man. We ain't like, you know, it's not personal. It's just business at the end of the day. That'd be a good fight.

You and Chad Johnson. Yeah, so let him sign him up, man. Sign him up. Yeah, I know he talks to Dana White all the time. Maybe you guys could get something. He should not do an MMA fight, but stick to boxing. He looked good when he fought, when he boxed. He did.

I thought the same thing. He had a knockdown. He maybe got knocked down and came back up from it. He got back up, yeah. Yeah, so showed some heart, showed some resiliency. Yeah. A lot of these guys just stay away from MMA, though, speaking like this is not what you want like stick to the boxing yeah it's a different game right 100 different yeah tell the people where they can find you and where

they could find these new nfts that are going to be coming out so yeah man i have this project um legacy collective it's going to be uh uh pretty big we're going to be doing a lot of um giving back to a lot of communities and cool um i think it's uh legacycollective.com right now and um all on your socials right you got yeah everything's on my social you can just like follow my pages you will see it all and yeah i got some big things in the works man awesome excited about it i'm looking forward to it man bare. Bare knuckle, boxing, NFTs coming out. You got your hand in a lot of different buckets, and it's looking to work out for you. Yeah, for sure, 100%.

All right. Thank you very much for coming in. All right, man. And we'll see you next time. For sure.