My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 170 - 'HAWKEYE' EPISODE 3 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

Robbie and Clem break down the third episode of ‘Hawkeye’, the introduction of ‘Echo’ into this universe, the growing father/daughter relationship between Clint and Kate Bishop, whether or not... we’ll see Kingpin, and MORE! PLUS, a special Christmas ranking after the Sus List! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Go to CutsClothing.com/basement for 15% off Liquid Death: Get FREE SHIPPING on all water/merch at LiquidDeath.com/momsbasement **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, yeah, yeah Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3Chi and Barstool Sports I am your host Robbie Fox, I am here with my bro Clem for another Hawkeye recap It is Hawkeye episode three, week two, because they gave us one and two right off the jump. So this is week three. It's called Echoes and
Starting point is 00:00:51 focuses a lot on a character named Echo. In this episode, they call her Maya a lot. But how are we doing, Clem? Doing great, Bob. I think we have a good show on our hands here. You know, first two episodes, it's so much to take in. This was in this was its first like a teacher on the first day of school you can't really judge her by that you know it's like yeah of course she's nice to us in the first day of school perfect way to put it bob fox i fucking love it and third one i was happy when it's all said and done i saw that it got the report i think it's the lowest watch disney plus marvels to show so far which again not everyone can listen to jose young's to get you know the background because we've got enough
Starting point is 00:01:30 people again saying this has got me properly prepared and excited for the show so uh they listen you know i'm rooting for the mcu at all times but when that report came out it made me feel a little bit good because i texted you and I was like, viewership for like my mom's basement is down. I was like, what's going on? And then when this came out, I was like, oh, okay, no, that's, that's fine. Because less people are watching Hawkeye. We're going to blame the Thanksgiving holiday. Everyone was fucking all over the place. They probably forgot it was even coming out that day, right? That was Wednesday was when everyone travels and stuff like that. So we'll just throw everything. It was a stacked week. We had black Friday, the sale. Thank you to everyone who bought stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I saw a bunch of people tweeting us. They bought the cap stoolie hoodie. Shout out Nathan Hearst for being the great designer of that. Yup. I, I, I also got a few people who, that was their like Spotify wrapped. We were the number one podcast,
Starting point is 00:02:20 which is always a trip. Whenever we can like reach that level, it blows my mind. So shout out to all the listeners, subscribers, you subscribe to subscribe five stars episodes all that stuff i went in and i didn't see any subscription uh any new uh reviews last week tell you brokenhearted i was sad i why are you so sad at thanksgiving i'm like no i asked for just like one nice review i don't know maybe it was like they didn't write anything in the review but i didn't have any nice
Starting point is 00:02:42 words in the review made me sad ruined my thanksgiving but hey if you guys could do it this week maybe that would be nice little early christmas yeah don't ruin his christmas you ruined his thanksgiving already by the way dave's story about ruining thanksgiving how funny was that that was that was an underrated like that's already in my eyes like an all-time barstool story that's funny to me you gotta let the thing we cannot speak of on youtube gotta look at that little mg though you gotta look at those make sure you're taking them you always say start with a half and you go from there don't eat a whole fucking cookie or candy bar or whatever it may be um and we always you know we always like chat a little bit before we get into the thing is this is this everyone or just me i feel like ever since the pandemic started like when tv shows start like nothing feels real anymore the schedules
Starting point is 00:03:30 and i even feel like the banter like i feel like back in the day when curb would come on there'd just be like a half hour worth of curb discussion afterwards last night always sunny came on i had no idea always sunny was coming back until like two hours before my wife told me like i didn't read about it online i didn't know about it through commercials i just feel like we've kind of lost like that sense of knowing when a show is coming out and i imagine hawkeye was a part of that because of thanksgiving as well but it just feels like we live in these times where everything is we're so like stuck at home online and all that kind of stuff the typical schedule of life has kind of just disappeared it's not we gotta spread the word though because like you said i think we got a good show on our hands like we gotta tell the people
Starting point is 00:04:08 hawkeye's worth watching tell your friends watch hawkeye and then watch the my mom's basement breakdowns the recap yes like spread the word all around we even had uh one of the tracksuit mafia guys tweet me this week how was that uh kind of scary when a guy he's a fake tracksuit mafia like if you're so good at being a tracksuit mafia guy that you get cast as it, hey, maybe you are one in real life. Don't want to fuck with that guy. That guy, he's a friend of the podcast. Whether or not he wants to be, he is now a friend of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:34 He said he was going to rip the old Navy beanie off my head if I didn't tell him where Kate Bishop was. The old Bob Fox would have sent the old octagon Bob at him, but you've matured. You've gotten a little smarter with Barstool now. Ever since – Yeah, once we like founded Rough and Rowdy – not founded it, but bought Rough and Rowdy,
Starting point is 00:04:51 I was like, you know what? Now that I could challenge someone to the Octagon and they could actually accept, I'm going to stop doing that. Yeah, and I don't think Dave would be like, oh, no, Bob, you can just say no to this guy. It's like, no, Dave doesn't turn down money and one of our guys on the pay-per-view card for sure. Yeah. All right. Let's get into Hawkeye. Today's podcast is brought to you by 3C. 3C is the industry leader in Delta 8 THC products.
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Starting point is 00:05:51 They've got root beer taffies in their store now. They've got eight balls candy, disposable vapes, which are my new favorite product, and tons more edibles, vapes, gummies, tinctures, oils. All of this stuff is available online at 3chi.com and use the promo code mmb at checkout to receive five percent off your order we start in 2007 we zoom in on like the we see like a girl's ponytail and then we see her from the front and immediately me and my girlfriend looked at each other we're like is that hailey stein that doesn't look anything like her it is not it's maya who we saw at the end of the last episode, Echo. She's in school and kind of learning to adapt. We know right away
Starting point is 00:06:29 she's deaf and they play that a lot in the episode. They actually, like sonically, this episode goes back and forth a lot between muffled sounds, like no sound and normal sound, which is very cool. It was a cool dynamic, very different um we see her father uh maya's father is helping her out helping her adapt to this new world she's like why can't we afford the school with all deaf people he's like i'm sorry i couldn't make it work we get hints of her task mask uh task master like ability right away where she could look at something and then copy it she's got the uh prosthetic leg and in martial arts school it looks like oh man she's getting into a fight girl with a prosthetic leg against a bigger guy this is gonna not go well for her but she uses the move that she saw
Starting point is 00:07:13 against him she wins and then we flash forward to the future post snap and we see ronan killing a gang in a factory very much like the end game scene it was like that cool one-shot style we're seeing him through the windows and he winds up killing her father she sees it and now we know a little bit about her backstory she's not just a one-dimensional villain she's out for revenge because ronan killed her father very cool intro to the episode i thought yeah i i dug like a quick little origin story and i always do kind of like when a villain or whatever echo may be in the long run, when it's like they have a very rational reason to hate a certain superhero. Or in this case, like, by the way, I think I'm just calling him the Ronin right now. I fucking think he's so much more badass.
Starting point is 00:07:59 The Ronin is cool. It's like the Bronx. When you say the Bronx, oh, the Bronx. Instead of just Bronx, New York. First of all, I have to say this. Seeing – so she was in middle school? Yeah. But just seeing a kid and it's 2007 was such a gut punch for an old man like me.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I was like, mother – where were you in 2007, Bob? You were like eight years old? I was nine. Oh, goddammit. So you're probably like almost her age at that point. Yeah, I was in fourth grade, yeah. I imagine all the other olds who are listening are right there with me like that was like 1990 something 1980 something when we were growing up that's what you would see uh her dad had a sweet ass ponytail that was that was one no like the dad's in this show
Starting point is 00:08:39 between like the goatees the old hair all that kind of stuff and then um her dad uh also check off dragon did you hear that when they're talking about dragons and stuff and i'm like when the dragon comes into the world it's going to get stronger i'm like that's check off dragon as soon as they were talking about that i i said like echo's got to meet shang chi one day like she's talking about i want to see a dragon i want to meet a dragon that could be an all-time like setup for a payoff down the line where echo sees a dragon alongside Jean-Chi. And she's just like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is real. I mean, when the MCU started, my mom's basement wasn't a thing.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I wasn't working at Barstool. I mean, fuck, when the MCU started, I mean, I don't even know if I was even reading Barstool. Like, when Iron Man came out. No, I wasn't. I was 10. Yeah, exactly. You shouldn't have been. That's like a fucking another flashback 2007 here.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So but just being able to like like we're going to go through all these things with these watches. And then whenever the end game, whenever the Kang game comes at the end of all this, we're going to be like, holy shit. You're going to see her look up and she's going to see that drag. And we're like, we told you back in episode three recap of Hawkeye. We fucking knew this was coming. so i'm so stoked for that also i had i had to tweet it out like it's so hard with the spoilers and not being able to say stuff i just had to do the no context for episode three i had to do the little hand of the kingpin from game of thrones when we saw the uncle are we calling that fucking uncle kingpin right there are we calling it uncle kingpin i think that's uncle kingpin i think it's like it's gotta be right he had the black sleeve like he was wearing like a
Starting point is 00:10:08 suit he looked like a big figure they referenced him a couple times throughout this episode i don't think uncle will be happy about that i think this is uh mephisto kingpin here yes exactly fat man auto repair that's where her dad gets killed by the Ronin. So it's like, oh, did you see the tweet that did you send it to me? The Kingpin, like where they had the auction in episode one is apparently Kingpin's house from Daredevil. They shot it at the same location. Really? Did you see that? No, I think it might have been Jeff that sent it to me.
Starting point is 00:10:43 That's why maybe I thought you did. But yeah. Okay. Bob Fox, you got to do this right now the metal meter the blood on face metal pretty metal metal pretty metal that's a metal origin story yeah and did we i think jose had told us that she has a helmet and it has like the hand on it right oh yeah it's like the handprint so if if? Oh yeah. It's like the handprint. So if, if she does that confirmed metal, we're just putting that out now in case we get the echo, you know, full get up down the road. Will they do it?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Or will that, is that too close to the flag smashers? Oh, I love my flag. But if they ruined the metal ass fucking echo origin story or the echo outfit, then I'm going to be pissed about that. Yeah. So I think, I think we are looking forward to Kingpin. I'm going to mark it down right now. echo origin story or the echo outfit that i'm gonna be pissed about that yeah so i think i think we are looking forward to kingpin i'm gonna mark it down right now i'm saying yes kingpin will be in this series they showed the they showed like the one part of kingman that isn't like
Starting point is 00:11:35 huge too like it's like the littlest part of his arm doesn't have sausage fingers i'm proud of my guy here and i i think there was a couple of things where it was like, I saw someone, I think it was emergency. Also, it's like, it could be the gym she was at. Could have been daredevils gym or something like that.
Starting point is 00:11:51 So we're living in this weird daredevil King pin side of the world right now. And I'm pretty fucking excited about it. Yeah. So am I. So Maya confronts them. They're still tied to the little unicorns that are like going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:12:03 The tracksuit mafia is like putting quarters in there, laughing at him it's a funny scene the way they play it and she interrogates them about the ronin clint says listen kate's not rolling come on you think this girl's rolling like ronin's dead jesus how do you know ronin's dead and he says black widow killed the ronin she's like oh very convenient that someone's dead killed someone. You know, the person we're looking for is dead. This was a great scene, I thought, because it's like Black Widow figuratively killed Ronin, obviously. Kind of like how Cuts Clothing figuratively kills all of their competition. Cuts Clothing has reimagined work clothes by elevating the classic t-shirt to something you can wear on any occasion, from a formal business meeting to a casual night out.
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Starting point is 00:13:56 little thing in the back of your mind that reminds you like yelena's coming oh i didn't even here we go people just saw the whole mind you guys have to watch on youtube so you can see my brain explode in real time i didn't even think about that that's why i gotta keep reminding us about black widow i think checkoff's widow that's out there as well now um i loved it too because i mean it's fucked up to say but like black widow they can't verify the story with black widow because she is currently on vormir in this timeline, fucking splattered to like a pancake. So I loved how they did that. And like you said, every single
Starting point is 00:14:30 thing was true. It's like she killed him figuratively. The Ronin. Everything he said, because I watched it again just to make sure. I was like, oh shit. The way he's saying it. And who talks like this, Bob? Our boy Ben Kenobi from a certain point of view,
Starting point is 00:14:46 he's telling the fucking truth. So it's like, even if you plug them up to a lie detector, it all fucking pans out. So I love that side of things. I also love that the warehouse they were at, we find out is a KB Toys warehouse, which by the way, I don't even know the last time KB, KB Toys might've not been in business since like 2007 too.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Like I can't, that was even dated for a dated abandoned warehouse like thing like if you had done toys r us i bet they wanted to toys r us and they couldn't maybe clear the brand name but seeing kb dude when i was growing up kb was perennially 40 off every fucking sticker had was like crossed out the price and it had like the sales price that place was fucking on clearance or sale it's like furniture stores they're always on clearance and they've been in business for like 30 years always being clearance kb was the same thing and i just loved seeing that was the warehouse we were in the whole time i fucking just brought such a and like you know a christmas vibe to it with toys oh yeah stuff so that was awesome and i have to ask you because i i don't really care either way my kids
Starting point is 00:15:43 fucking love them imagine dragons did you think did you take that slander personally are you an imagine dragons guy no i'm really not and i actually texted kevin owens from the wwe because we've done interviews and he loves imagine dragons he saw them in concert and i was like dude you got to watch this with your son because you'll laugh at the back and forth they have i I'm not the biggest Imagine Dragons guy. Like, I think the song they used in the Mission Impossible trailer was great. I forget what it's called. Can't Stop the Friction or something.
Starting point is 00:16:16 The radioactive stuff and that stuff, ooh, I don't like. I really don't like the singer with the drums on the stage. It's all silly to me. But Monster, they have a song called Monster that I think is pretty good. But like, it's a shame they're turning into the new Nickelback. But I thought this back and forth was very funny. So that's what I was going to say. It feels a little Nickelback-y, but then it goes to the point where they get so much hate.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I'm like, all right, let's pump the brakes on it. Because it's like everyone, you heard a couple of Imagine Dragons songs and like you straight up don't have a soul if you don't get a little excited for it. Yeah, they got a couple of good ones. It is the peak of like an intermission song or like a stoppage during a hockey game. Like they're going to throw that out of the garden and you're going to get excited. Also, by the way, just so I brought up Nickelback, this is one take that I've always believed. Rockstar by Nickelback. It's a fucking great music video. I mean, the song is a good song. The fucking
Starting point is 00:17:05 the music video is so and it's like, it's a time capsule of that fucking time of our lives. A lot of their music videos are, I feel like. They like capture that time period. Kid Rock, The Girls Next, what is it? The Girls Next Door? Is that the name of the Playboy Bunnies? Was that the
Starting point is 00:17:22 name of the show with them? I think so, yeah. But just all them, and it's like, oh, Was that the name of the show with them? I think so, yeah. Yeah, so it was like, but just all them. And it's like, oh, that's who were like the celebrities back then. I fucking just love that video. It's so fucking crazy. So yeah, a lot of Imagine Dragons. And that was also like very, like again, like Jose said, very relatable. The guy who buys the tickets for his girlfriend for the concert he wants to go to.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I have to ask you, Bob Fox, is it an acceptable move if if if you're if if lady fox bought you tickets to you know a rangers game yeah and then or let's see i guess it would it would have to be if you bought her tickets to a rangers game and then she's like i want to take my sister is that an acceptable move i think i kind of love that move i just want to say i think i kind of love the girlfriend's move of being like it's tough it's like I would justify I in my mind I'd be like all right I'll play Halo all night like that would be a fun night for me but like it would be it would be a it would be a gut punch I think to hear that and but I like how like he, they reverse the move on the guy. So I just love that Papa Clem infamously for when mama Clem,
Starting point is 00:18:29 before they were married, he asked for her finger size the entire time. She's thinking she's getting an engagement ring. He bought her a bowling ball. It came with shoes, but it was an all time blow up in your face gift move. And it wasn't obvious for himself, but he bought her a bowling ball and he was in did he not even think about it probably not he's
Starting point is 00:18:50 a fucking knucklehead just like me that's hilarious that is a really funny story um there's a great like kind of bonding moment between clint and kate here kind of a father-daughter moment this that a lot of that in this show a lot of father daughter dynamics and stuff he says now is not the time to be scared let's muster up that overconfidence that i've seen so much of he breaks free he's like on my signal on my mark or whatever and she's like what do you mean like i can't break free and in the back of your mind you're like come on that's not the signal kate he starts jumping over through shelves they really like make fun use of the kb toys warehouse like the way he's jumping
Starting point is 00:19:25 over him the tracksuit mafia just like a bunch of idiots like lovable idiots maya smashes his hearing aid at one point which i thought was a pretty badass scene kind of like bane being like oh i was born in the darkness you know she was like i was born with this and eventually clint recovers his bow and it's fucking game on i said as soon as clint has the ball it's like oh it's fucking over for these tracksuit mafia idiots yeah and this episode we got to see you know some cool ass archery shit which i mean oh yeah i mean this shot the shot that he frees kate with one of hawkeye's coolest moments yes and you can't probably do like a whole movie or a long running series for seasons where it's like sooner or later.
Starting point is 00:20:05 It's like, all right, we've seen the fucking arrow trick enough times, Clint. But during this one, very cool. I love when a hero, a new hero especially, they stink in the beginning. And Kate's still figuring out how to be a hero. I always love seeing the transition. So then we see, again, at that Kangane moment down the road when she's just this badass motherfucker, the new Hawkeye, basically.ye basically we're gonna be like remember when she couldn't get out of that like giraffe or whatever and gave me a warehouse um also love seeing the ball pit ball pits fucking rule man i mean again this might date me a little bit but i'm pretty sure they were still around when you were a kid
Starting point is 00:20:39 did you have discovery zones growing up we had things that were like discovery zone it was like dinosaur theme that we went to and kids would have birthday parties there and stuff and you know it would have the foam things where you could jump into the ball pit i'll never forget they had a little ball pit i might have told this story in my mom's basement before they had a little ball pit probably just like i don't know this big it was like one person ball pit and i looked at it and i was like i'm gonna fucking cannonball right into that motherfucker it was like a jacuzzi size ball pit and i looked at it and i was like i'm gonna fucking cannonball right into that motherfucker it was like a jacuzzi size ball pit so i run up the stairs cannonball right onto a kid's head it was just underneath he was underneath like one layer of balls and i swear he didn't say a word to me he just like got up looked at me like i just broke his neck and like walked out of the
Starting point is 00:21:21 ball pit to his mom i was like i'm so sorry i didn't see you he looked he like you broke his neck because you broke a kid's let's call it what it is ball pits underratedly dangerous that was the one drawback of them i'm pretty sure that's why discovery zone went out of business because i think people were just like breaking bones left and right yeah even though it was relatively safe it wasn't safe enough but the way hawkeye uses this ball pit is great too how he like slides under it like a snake and then grabs them i had a little bit of uh double dare vibes too when they'd have like the ball pit parts of the obstacle course or guts or whatever would have those little things so i i just gave me so warm and fuzzy inside and i remember back in the day on the like when the internet 1.0 you'd have like these viral pictures
Starting point is 00:21:58 or a person who just has like they made their entire like living room a ball pit or something oh yeah and it's something i always wanted to do once i got a house and then once i got a house we had this little tiny uh ball but i think actually the nard dog gave me one she had like one that when her kids were growing up and sienna was like two balls everywhere in the house i'm like this is the worst idea ever but if i could have only bob this is your time to live that ball pit life so i'm just telling you if you want it for christmas let me know this room is pretty small we could maybe yeah we can maybe fill it up my my office in my apartment with balls get it to get it for the wifey for christmas be like oh i got you a ball pit you know i think you'd really enjoy that but it's really for you i think that works for everybody um eventually clint frees
Starting point is 00:22:38 kate like i said with an amazing shot hits her in the in the tape like right between the the wrists kate hits a 619 i wrote down like on the on the, like right between the wrists. Kate hits a six one nine. I wrote down like on the, on the pole, she slides all the way around. That kicks a guy down. They get free out of the building. They hotwire car kind of funny back and forth where they're like, let's take this car. It's cool. He's like, I'm not breaking into that fucking car.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That car is awesome. Um, they hotwire and then we get trick arrow central during this chase scene. Clint doesn't have his hearing. So they're kind of like going back and forth there it's hard to communicate at first and then by the end they really like build a bond they're able to communicate they're on the same page it's cool to see but the trick arrows we see we see an acid arrow that burns up the traffic lights we see some smoke arrows which are purple i like that hawkeye kind of, as you can see, our theme is purple. I like that he's got all like purple themed equipment now.
Starting point is 00:23:27 He's got a rope arrow that kind of like grapple hooks everything in sight and pulls it into whatever the arrow was shot at. So in this case, it was shot at the car, and the car pulls all of these Christmas trees into it. Very funny scene. He had a Play-Doh arrow, they called it. It was like just a gooey purple thing. And the best one
Starting point is 00:23:45 the pim particle arrow where he has kate shoot one all the way up on the bridge he's like just aim high aim high and then he shoots one and the way they focused in on him at the last second was great because it's like what is that lit up i couldn't see it and then they focus in on it pim and he shoots it makes the arrow fucking gigantic pretty awesome that was like this is how you can make hawkeye cool it doesn't take too much but it's like a fucking grab bag worth of shit i feel like i'm gonna go another tangent here but i just love grab bags in general i love oh yeah like the comic books or the cards or all that kind of thing and you just get to pick it out and having a grab bag worth of arrows that do funny funky shit i don't this might be in the comics you know we could have
Starting point is 00:24:28 asked those i think it was i read a recap that said that this chase sequence is actually one of like the fan favorite sequences from the comic and this is how you make hawkeye cool and also in that fight scene at the warehouse hawkeye doing like the backwards like shoot with no looking like oh yeah like the han solo yeah i like him showing off a little it's like dude i know i'm the fucking like fifth tier avenger but i think i'm pretty fucking cool i'm cooler than you are normal person it's like yeah you're right you're like glenn i got you on that i love the um again we've talked about it on the podcast a lot i'm not like a bond guy a boring guy in terms of the chases i'm just not a car chase guy the way this car chase started off with like the one camera, the panning, the Christmas music going on.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And then once it became more of a traditional car chase, you had like you're guessing what this arrow is going to do. That is how you keep my attention. I was fucking enthralled the entire time. And I hope people fucking watch this show because it's a good fucking show. I actually enjoyed everything about it. Everything about the sequence was like, wow, I haven't seen that before. fucking watch this show because it's a good fucking show i actually so creative everything about everything about the sequence was like wow like i haven't seen that before like it's actually very creative yep i think the worst the worst fucking arrow to be hit with was the one that gathered all the christmas trees if you get that sap on you it's not coming off for like a day i'd
Starting point is 00:25:39 rather get hit by that my needles everywhere oh everywhere this i know kevin's like having like wars on twitter about this i think it was brought up on ksu radio or something i was a fucking real tree guy like like not only like real tree guy like but i was like fuck all the fake tree fakers you're not a real christian hand back your card change religions blah blah blah if you don't have a real tree then i had kids and i was like nope fuck it's like the amount of like work you have to do just getting it in the house you have to water it you have to like you get sticky you have to worry about your kids no way i am victory for life now oh life they're on the same page by the end of this sequence that's kind of what it's showing it's like kate's like saying things out the window that clint can't hear and then he's
Starting point is 00:26:24 repeating them back to her and she's like oh look at that we're thinking the same way and at the end of it clint tells kate that she wasn't wrong when she called herself one of the world's greatest archers which in kate's mind has to be like the greatest moment of her life like this is her hero she took up archery because she saw hawkeye do all that shit in 2012 and now he's like you're one of the fucking world's greatest, pretty fucking awesome. I have to admit this. I didn't even think of this at the time,
Starting point is 00:26:50 but when you said that I'll never forget. And this is like a much lesser distinction and a little corny, but I remember it was like one of the first blogs I did on the site. It was Derek Fisher. It was the Derek Fisher, Matt Barnes fight. And I blogged something. Cause it was obviously involved the Knicks. And I remember Portnoy blogged it himself the next day after I had blogged it. And it was the Derek Fisher, Matt Barnes fight. And I blogged something cause it was obviously involved the Knicks. And I remember Portnoy blogged it himself the next day after I had blogged it.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It was like, uh, Clem blogged it perfectly, but, and he wanted to just give his tape. I was like, Holy shit. Dave Portnoy just said I blocked something perfect. Cause it's like, that's the reason I got into blogging. It was like the original four guys that we was talking about who got this thing started. I was like, so from that moment on, I can kind of feel what Kate meant, whatate felt if archery was smut blogging when when mark hamill posted that picture of us on his instagram and was like the least i could do is
Starting point is 00:27:36 fucking take a picture whatever that's my my hawkeye moment personally shout out everyone that's had one of those moments again being the world's greatest archer or whatever your own personal moment was shout out to everyone who's had that and i wish everyone could just feel that moment one time in their life uh it was fucking awesome but um the the hearing thing i again it's those little quirks that i i like about this show um it's i think we i don't talk about on the podcast we talked about it offline but there you know when shows do an entire episode with you know nothing being said my wife was a big buffy the vampire and it's everything is sung for an episode it's just nothing but music so it's like shit like that i always find cool and just like the whole thing where again it's it starts with echo when she's a
Starting point is 00:28:17 kid and it goes into clint with the hearing aid and everything being off and just communication it feels so hopeless as the viewer as you're watching that but then you see how they overcome it that is fucking cool as shit man so i was a big fan of that and credit to like all the sound mixing sound editing in this episode like that really like added to it the way they were doing like the muffled stuff when they would cut to clint's perspective and stuff we get a lot of it in this upcoming scene where kate has to help clint out with a super sad phone call uh with his youngest. Like he gets the phone call from his wife and he picks up and he's like, Hey mama, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:28:49 And she's like, she writes down little boy and he's like, Oh, it's fucking Nathaniel. What's going on? She has to write everything for him. He says like, it's okay if you're not going to be home for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Super sad. When you think like, this is the first Christmas since they all got snapped. He hasn't seen his fucking family on Christmas in five years. Probably been murdering families on Christmas for the past five years. So it's fucking sad.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Bob, that was like something I would say right there. I couldn't believe you just brought that into the world. You're not wrong though. I would have been like, and someone hit us up about this too. Did your mom cut your fucking hair because you look like a goddamn shaggy dog right now what the fuck is going on there um but yeah your heart bled a little oh and by the way he's acquitted of all charges he didn't want mayo on them on the hot dog he said how about ketchup yes yes it was
Starting point is 00:29:38 mama and again i loved hearing him say mama in this episode again it reminds me of endgame every single time uh but it's like, they're hammering that home. It's like, you are gonna, are you going to get there by Christmas? That is our timeline. That is the countdown,
Starting point is 00:29:52 whether or not it's Christmas week, the finale episode, which is just so great. We're going to watch that. And like two days later, celebrate Christmas. It's going to be great. It's going to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:30:00 It's good. It's going to be just like with home alone. You're like, I hope Kevin gets to see his mom or his family and everyone spoiler alert they do we fucking know by the way did you see the home alone house is airbnb you can rent it i read your blog about that yeah and you had you had a good ranking of all the things you would want to do you got to recreate the dance scene gotta recreate the dance it would be a pain in the ass it wouldn't be worth the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze but just to say you did it would be worth it and that fucking song bang so
Starting point is 00:30:23 hard jingle bell rock oh we're gonna and little spoiler we're gonna do because we don't know how great like how how much meat these episodes are gonna have so we're gonna do at the end of the next three episodes we're gonna do a rankings about different christmas stuff so today you have you have to listen to the end and then you're gonna you're gonna put in the comments your rankings boom i just loaded that on the fly bob Bob Fox. Oh, look at that little piece. We got Christmas rankings and the episode after the sauce list. So in the next scene, they go get Clint's hearing aid fixed. Then they go to breakfast at breakfast.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Kate is talking to me about his branding issue and how he should become more recognizable. And she draws a little sketch of like, what is kind of the original Hawkeye comic book costume, which I love. All of these shows are doing it. You get it in Loki with the Richard E. Grant costume, that ridiculous looking whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:10 You get it in WandaVision when they dress up for Halloween. You get it in Hawkeye just from a sketch. Will we get it in the future? Who knows? That would be kind of funny if she like makes him a fabric suit, makes him try it on or something. He's showing up in that suit in Kangame. Let's just call it what it is. It'd be great and clint says he never viewed himself as a role model it's a very
Starting point is 00:31:30 revealing conversation about his perspective towards the whole hero thing his his role as a hero um what heroes should do he tells kate about the sacrifices that she'll have to miss out on he's talking about like family stuff obviously obviously, maybe some Ronan stuff. They even talk a little bit about Ronan. She's like, is that because Ronan's someone close to you? Is that why you have to keep the identity close, whatever? It was a good scene. Another scene where you could see
Starting point is 00:31:55 the father-daughter relationship building between Kate and Clint. Yeah, and as someone that thought for some reason they were going to be father, I thought the daughter was going to be the next Hawkeye. But I could almost see the same dynamic going on between them, right? So I dug that. New York City subway getting a little bit of love in this entire episode.
Starting point is 00:32:15 They're bouncing in and out, so I can smell it. I wonder if they really shot that on a subway. My girlfriend said that to me. She's like, do you think they really shot that on a subway or recreated it? I was like, they probably recreated it it looked a little too clean i was thinking the same thing and then i'm like well this was like corona time potentially and there was no one in the subway so like it could kind of remember that they said like they cleaned them for the first time in 20 years or something during we were like what the fuck
Starting point is 00:32:38 they probably like unearthed like these new variants because it was like they've been sitting dormant these germs and then it just mixed with the Corona. That could be the plot of like a new ghostbusters movie right there. Like I was going to say Jurassic Park. Like, yeah. By the way, I have not,
Starting point is 00:32:54 well, I don't know if we'll do some, maybe we'll like do like a segment on the basement. I still haven't seen ghostbusters, but I have heard nothing, but not good things. Like not even great things. Like part, like this this movie it's not the
Starting point is 00:33:06 perfect movie ghostbusters but it is the perfect ghostbusters movie that's the perfect it's the perfect tribute like to the original in my mind i loved it like i saw i don't know if i talked about on the basement but i really did love it it's like i i get i've seen some criticisms about it like some critics don't like it because they're like oh it's too much nostalgia too much fan service it's never been an issue for me i like the star wars sequel trilogy so like i'm in on that you know like so i was in on it from the jump i love paul rudd the cast is awesome the girl that they have playing egon's like uh granddaughter that's you see in all the trailers she's the main character amazing she's gonna have an one of these hayley steinfeld careers calling it now it's like you could tell in true grit hayley
Starting point is 00:33:50 steinfeld great actress got oscar nominated youngest ever this girl maybe not oscar nominated for ghostbusters but she was tremendous i've heard and it was uh you said that you said you gave that that level review kfc that level review so he's like an old like me who grew up with the Ghostbusters and shit like that. And then I know we got our listener Wally or Mario and then my buddy Joe Lightning, all like a little older, all who grew up with Ghostbusters, all said the same exact thing in terms of the tribute. And it's like, oh, it's like who gives a fuck if it's a great – it's the fucking Ghostbusters. If it flopped, we would never have a Ghostbusters movie again. I bet we had someone hit us up. I think it's my guy TJ.
Starting point is 00:34:26 We're going to get a GC or a GB. We're going to get a Ghostbusters cinematic again I bet we had someone hit us up I think it's my guy TJ we're gonna get a GC or a GB we're gonna get a Ghostbusters cinematic universe I think we're getting a sequel after this one I bet it did so well at the box office so well like you said with like actual fan reviews like you look at the Rotten Tomatoes like audience score it's perfect like the audience loves this one so like I think we're getting a sequel
Starting point is 00:34:41 after this one hell yeah from Reitman still like yeah and it's like from from reitman still like you know it's like under the reitman family it's cool yep yep that's and that's that's some nerdy basement shit right there so that might be the next that might be a future you know we're doing shows we're doing movies all that kind of stuff the more stuff we can throw in the better these basement boys we don't tire we're fucking just keep throwing shit on our plate fortnight we'll keep pumping out the podcast line your fucking pockets with gold um so they decide to break into eleanor's apartment they're like let's break in she's got the security system we could hack in we could find out things about
Starting point is 00:35:14 jack we could find out things about um maya's right hand man who we haven't mentioned he looks like kid harrington don't he that's a good point the whole time i was like this guy is like second kid harrington what's going on here but yeah they wanted to find out stuff about him there was a little conversation between him and maya earlier where they were talking about uncle uncle's not gonna be happy about this oh you're gonna fucking talk about uncle and clint knows someone is above maya he teases that as well like there's a lot of teasing of this it's kind of like a thing they've done in every show with yeah not mephisto but it wound up being agatha all along right agatha all along gray song bang did you just do that by mistake i said yeah wow that's amazing they've incepted your ass did it with
Starting point is 00:35:56 the power broker in falcon and winter soldier they did it with kang in loki and now this one it's like every show serves to introduce a new character to the universe, which I love. And I think it's Kingpin in this one. I really do. So they go up to the apartment. Clint's like, are we alone in here? She's like, definitely. He's like, definitely.
Starting point is 00:36:14 She's like, definitely. She goes, tries to hack in. She gets locked out of the security system right away. So she's like, this is weird. He starts walking as if he knows that they're not alone. And then you see Ronan sword come out. Episode ends. This is a, in my opinion, a WandaVision level teaser because I was legit like,
Starting point is 00:36:33 huh? No, no, no. The episode's over. Like I was like stunned. It felt short to me. And I don't even think this episode was super short. I think it was just like a good episode. It flew by.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah. It flew by. There was a lot, there was a few different changes in terms of it you had the battles you had the chase you had all that kind of stuff um but yeah that oh man oh i hated that fucking wanda credits when that rolled and that was like during like peak pandemic times there was like nothing else going on it's like i gotta wait another week for this shit and we're trying to we were fucking uh the charlie kelly meme right we were fucking uh i was halfway across the world at recording episodes at 4 30 in the morning so yeah that like the way it just ends and you see the ronin sword which i liked as well
Starting point is 00:37:15 um but yeah i'm all in all a great episode yeah it was like i think it was like 45 minutes so it's pretty uh on point with the other ones pretty pretty much the same as the last two but do we see here's a big question, do we see Kingpin in the next episode, or do they make us wait until, like, the end? Is this going to be, like, a finale thing? I think it's a penultimate thing, right? I think we're getting our penultimate. We're using our fancy words today.
Starting point is 00:37:37 We're using our fancy words today. I like that. Do you want to get into the sus list presented by Liquid Death? Yes, let's get into the sus list. I mean, you know the sus list, look at that. Do you want to get into the Suss List presented by Liquid Death? Yes, let's get into the Suss List. I mean, you know the Suss List. Look at that. Liquid Death Suss List. It fucking goes together perfectly. Which one of these motherfuckers is going to be
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Starting point is 00:38:07 I was wearing a t-shirt last time you saw it. It was like a band tee. Pretty cool stuff. Now, I didn't really drink much water before Liquid Death became a sponsor of the show. But I swear, since they sent me a pallet of those cans, I haven't drank a ton more water. They're actually keeping me hydrated. It's called Liquid Death because it will brutally murder your thirst. And their infinitely recyclable tall boy cans are helping bring death to plastic bottles.
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Starting point is 00:38:48 God damn it. As I'm like, as I'm saying this myself, I'm like, this is going to sound bad. All right. So, we end. We get a sword to the throat. People are saying it might be the swordsman. The swordsman trained Hawkeye. Is Hawkeye sus? Throwing it on the list
Starting point is 00:39:04 there. I don't believe it. I'm just, all right, swordsman is, all right, the fucking sus ass stepdad, or yeah, the stepdad, clearly the guy on the list. But you know what? I'm just going to put it in parentheses, Hawkeye, question mark. Questionable. Yeah. He's like, he gets the cue next to him. Yeah. It's like, so maybe like the sword, like, I don't know. I feel like he is such an obvious- People were tweeting us, right? And saying that Jack is in in the comics the swordsman who trained hawkeye yeah and then i think this might end up bringing the swordsman a little bit to the light you might go from like a you know definite evil character maybe a little gray area right because it's like
Starting point is 00:39:39 it's so obvious like swords are everywhere the guy was killed with the sword blah blah blah it seems a little crazy so i think like hawkeye might just get a little mucked up too it's like swords are everywhere the guy was killed with the sword blah blah blah it seems a little crazy so i think like hawkeye might just get a little mucked up too it's like let's fucking call hawkeye what is he was the ronin he murdered a bunch of people they might have been bad there's a lot of gray area in this whole show hawkeye echo maybe swordsman hawkeye killed that girl's father you know like we saw that that was a good dude like a good guy too yeah he's i fucking love that guy i didn't really get the i was like when i when i saw like he was in there i was a good dude like a good guy too yeah he's i fucking love that guy i didn't really get the i was like when i when i saw like he was in there i was like come on like let's escape he's like no i'm cooked i'm done like don't even bother i was like man i was really hoping you
Starting point is 00:40:14 were gonna make it so um number three swordsman hawkeye kind of on the list i'm done putting like good people on the sus list because ever since i did that to a dog that got killed um number two on the sus list she doesn't even appear in the episode but it's the mom fucking yeah we're going on the computer she keeps getting locked out every single time i feel like the mom is i'm telling i think the mom is gonna end up being the one that killed that sus bitch uh armand or whatever his name is uh i think so too you think so she was at least in on it because when they showed like the previously on hawkeye for this they showed like kate going to her mom again and saying everything that she saw and just the way vera formiga or whatever her name is reacted
Starting point is 00:40:55 to it made it sound like like yeah i know all this why are you telling me i'm in on it i'm murder looking at my hands i got the blood still on my hands. So the mom, she does not move on the C word watch at all. Stays the same. However, moves up is number two on the list. Number one, we're not even going to play games. We're not going to kid around. We're not
Starting point is 00:41:17 going to do anything crazy. It's fucking uncle. It's uncle Kingpin. It's I mean that hand. All I saw was the hand and a couple of references about him. But based on what we know, I think that's going to be Kingpin. I mean, that hand. All I saw was the hand and a couple of references about him. But based on what we know, I think that's going to be Kingpin. I cannot have anyone else higher on the sus list than the potential head of an underground fucking criminal operation. Underworld criminal operation. Organized crime.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I got to throw the motherfucking Kingpin on there, number one. And we're just going to say Uncle Kingpin, right? Like, we're rolling with the Kingpin here. Yeah, that's uncle kingpin by the way shout out into the spiderverse came out three years ago this week yesterday as we're recording this it'll be two days ago on release day that is my favorite adaptation of kingpin as well i love the way they drew him in that movie i love the way they used him the whole thing with his family how at the end they show like his family seeing you know him about to beat spider-man again so all that i mean my favorite
Starting point is 00:42:09 line in that movie the funniest to me is from kingpin in the beginning when miles is escaping right after he kills the first peter parker and he just hears a noise and he looks up and goes kill that guy yeah that's so good that's what i would do if i was a fucking king man he's really kill that guy kill that guy that's all i'd have was a fucking Kingman. Just be like, kill that guy, kill that guy. That's all I'd have to say. Dead. Every time, the way he delivers it, kill that guy. Yeah, it's a great sus list.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And now let's do pretty much the opposite of the sus list. The most delightful, wonderful Christmas time list we could ask for. The top three Christmas movies from each of us. The Merry List, I guess we could call it. Yeah, the Merry List. That's a good one, yeah. I have three that I've always said are perfect, and I can pretty much switch them in order by the day,
Starting point is 00:42:52 but I've written them down in order. Do you want to go like three, three, two, two, one, one? Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm sure there might be some bleeding over. I think there's going to be. I think there is going to be. I think we're going to have at least two movies that are the same on our list and the reason because i told you okay let's do like a couple different things here in terms of chris's stuff and the reason i chose movies this
Starting point is 00:43:12 week is because i know uh barstool i i imagine it's jeff i imagine kb and nick they did the troll list this week and they got so many people were they the top 10 right chris's movies they had like friends text you about those by the way i had like one of them last year i haven't had anything since i had a friend texting about that one i was like come on man it's just bofa at the bottom it's just generated by bofa at this point too if i see lists i and now it's the point where i don't trust any list i don't trust one if it's by like espn and it's a cop like i'm like this is a fucking troll but i'm also so far out of the loop on so many things pop culture now just being old that i'm like shit people might fucking think home alone three is
Starting point is 00:43:54 great now i don't fucking know i think you're up with it like i think the prequels like the prequels yeah i and everyone tells me the prequels are good i'm like shit maybe i'm no it's the children that i actually did kind of grow up with home alone 3 like i had the home alone vhs box set was home alone 1 2 and 3 and i loved home alone 3 growing up like i really enjoyed it i haven't seen it since i was probably six years old i think if i watched it now i'd probably find it to be a piece of shit like everyone says it is but i did love it as a kid yeah and i'm fully prepared to be like the things I thought were like the ruination, ruination of Western civilization.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Basically people like, no, that like was my childhood growing up and nostalgia is a powerful motherfucking drug. So I can't even like argue with it. So I'll be interested to see how this all plays out. Cause there are some Christmas movies that are absolutely classic. And there's also ones that might be a little overrated.
Starting point is 00:44:41 So this should be interesting here. So my three, I think might be your number one and it's Die Hard. Okay. So I didn't know if, how we were classifying that. This is the trick here. Die Hard is my favorite movie. And it's not like, I'm not just saying it as like a joke or something.
Starting point is 00:44:59 It's legitimately my favorite movie. I think it's the perfect movie. I think it has the comedic elements. It has the action. It has like the underdog story. It has the action. It has the underdog story. It has the Christmas. It touches it all. I didn't even put it on the list because it's my favorite movie. So saying it's my favorite Christmas
Starting point is 00:45:12 movie is almost repetitive. But having number three, little sus, little sus. Having it on any list number three is sus in my mind. I could have put it number one. I honestly could have put it number one. I was like, I think we would have listeners would what the vlog would stop the podcast and then like jump off a bridge if they had to hear
Starting point is 00:45:29 another diehard debate so i didn't even throw it on i was like we'll disagree it's the best movie of all time and we move on from there but number three okay fair enough little sus my number three which could be high which might be higher for you because i think the when it came out might affect it probably when you were younger i have alpha number three all right i have a number two perfect yeah okay kind of give a general discussion about this together but yeah perfect christmas movie in my mind yep perfect like modern christmas movie uh the movies that made us they did like a um they did a good breakdown of it and how it was our fucking guy uh favro who i didn't realize had done it at the time until i saw that thing how they wanted to make like one of those like movies that you watch
Starting point is 00:46:09 every single christmas season which i hope the fox family did growing up i know the cleanse everyone yeah and we would actually do it uh my brother and sister who were younger than me they would sleep in my room christmas eve would usually watch a movie um usually probably my number one on the list and you just kind of like or you just you know rattle around the the handful and i think elf is now that for like the next generation i also had a shout out i blogged this a few weeks ago uh will ferrell turned down 29 million dollars to do elf 2 because he thought the script was a fucking abomination to the lord and i just want to log i read that i wanted to say how much i appreciated that because turning down 20 like 29 000 for something would be like crazy turn on 29
Starting point is 00:46:52 million to turn it down because you want to do the right thing i loved anchorman anchorman too i despised i have only watched it once maybe i like it more if this came out but it like i've never watched again i don't even think about it but It does take that little bit of bloom Off of it right oh yeah Think about the hangover like if they just made One hangover movie like that movie Would be like you know
Starting point is 00:47:16 An iconic like it was kind of At the time it was like oh my god funniest Movie ever and then they made the two Sequels now people don't even really bring it up Anymore yep 100% with you so i like it would have taken the shine off of elf if i had seen you see like the little brother you know what he doesn't too or yeah something like that but it's the perfect happy ending too like you want just like to think like oh half perfect happy ending and then they made the maybe sequel stepbrothers in transpine i had to shut up that
Starting point is 00:47:45 that is if you ever read that you got to go to the blog or just search it uh does my theory that elf is the prequel to step brothers makes too much sense an investigation a plus plus plus plus blog that is like that's throwback barstool right there too and it's it it kind of like holds water i can't really put any it was on the news yeah Yeah, it was on the fucking news. I'd say, oh, man, I fucking love Trent. I miss that guy so much. I truly do. So I got to give him a big old hug next time I see him.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I will say this, though, and I don't know if you agree or disagree. The reason it's three on my list, Elf, I do not like the last quarter. I don't like anything with the Central park rangers i think it's a little corny they're all singing i think it like if you watch it i think it's like i i just turn it off once that comes on like all right we're gonna move to the next movie now it's very cringy i don't know the whole beginning of the movie is definitely better it's yes the part parts that get quoted it's the parts that get clipped and gift and put on twitter every year like yeah
Starting point is 00:48:45 the beginning of the movie is is the best part of the movie there's scenes where he's like setting up the santa's workshop preparing santa's arrival working with the manager like all of that that's the funniest stuff easily and i think and this is you know that's just the way it is the fact that it's still this high in my book despite it being like unwatchable for the last like 10 20 minutes or whatever is actually just shows how good that like first chunk of the movie is um it's almost like i i say the same thing about wedding crashers once it gets to the point where he breaks or you know rachel mcadams leaves him and he's down and well farrell's awesome the whole farrell thing but like when it gets like a little too lovey-dovey i'm like all right i'm done with wedding crashes we're gonna move on to the next movie i feel the same way in terms of alfred
Starting point is 00:49:26 this is gonna sound weird i actually have a movie i've always done that with and it's cone heads have you seen cone heads before the movie jesus bob i haven't seen that since i was probably like like your your age if not younger i think it's hysterical and i think everything on earth is so funny and then they eventually go off to like their planet or whatever and they have to go through like a maze with a minotaur and fight that and all of that i'm like okay i'm fucking checked out all the laughs are gone i'm not interested in the dramatic sequence before we move on from elf i want to shout out elf cereal by the way i love elf cereal it's like a seasonal. It's basically like kicks flavored or kicks shaped. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Things. Maple syrup flavored with lucky charms marshmallows. I like that. I like, okay. Really good. Fuck. You see it in the store.
Starting point is 00:50:19 If you're a basement listener, you see elf cereal, pull the trigger on it. Try a box. I want to say this. I understand why they did it i understand you know you packaging little circles you can say they're like christmas ornaments i love that it's syrup flavored i have if someone at whoever is it you know who makes it
Starting point is 00:50:33 post kellogg's um let me look it up here i forget who made it general mills general mills yeah if someone from general mills who's listening to the podcast can let me know if they tried this, you had to at least have tried to do it with spaghetti. Exactly. Because that would have been good, but I imagine it would just break into crumbles. That would be so gross. I don't want the actual spaghetti consistency. I want the shape, though. It could be hard.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I don't mind if it's like a cereal-like consistency. But if you had done spaghetti shape, it would have made it absolutely fucking perfect because when you said syrup i'm like oh that's just like yeah sugar syrup have sugar in it so and i gotta get the stews for uh cookie milk cooking apparently apparently was 99 cents at somebody i saw that i'm guessing that those milks they're like all right these are about to go bad soon we gotta get these off the shelves and get them for anyone that's in the tri-state area you know connecticut jersey or new york um at least long island you got to get the stew leonards the christmas cookie milk people always ask what is that do you just dip your christmas cookies in it no it tastes like sugar cookies
Starting point is 00:51:36 and it is fucking awesome i had someone hit me up and said they their dad threw it out because they thought it was so bad for you because it's just like sugar but it is fucking delicious and it's every year they do a different bottle it's a collector's bottle and it only is from thanksgiving to christmas so there's a very short time frame here so check it out do you keep your bottles do you keep the collectible bottles we sure do and uh my wife makes elderberries for the kids like it's like a thing to kind of get their uh like immunity up it's like you know like almost like a medicine right and she does it in the old bottles so we still have last year we're about to transition to this year's i love it all right what is your number two my number two was elf okay my number two is christmas vacation is this
Starting point is 00:52:13 did this miss the bob fox list yeah i'm not i'm not a christmas vacation guy never been a national lampoon guy to be really at all wow okay so i know that's controversial so i i think last year maybe the year before on twitter um there was like the started bubbling the anti-christmas vacation people and it's one of those things that you're just like not every this isn't universally beloved it just kind of blows your mind it's the first time you find out someone doesn't like bacon or someone doesn't like you know whatever your favorite thing is and i I was like, it's like you have to grow physically angry. Then you start thinking, is it a troll job? You just pump the brakes.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And at this point, I've been on Twitter so long. I just go out. Some people don't like the same shit I did. I again, if it's number two on my list, it's fucking there with an absolute bullet. I, you know, the terms of the quotes, the stuff I will say, like, it does. I imagine to like people that didn't grow up in that time it probably ages a little poorly compared to like an elf that was you know more closer to now um but again clark griswold is an all-time great dad chevy chase sounds like he's kind of like a dickhead in
Starting point is 00:53:16 real life which kind of makes kind of hurts the cause but i grew up with national lampoons um this is my favorite national lampoons as as well. It goes this, followed by the original Vacation, followed by, I guess, Vegas Vacation. European Vacation was kind of weird, and I didn't get into any of the newer ones. But I mean, just in all time, I think I probably did a few blogs about the Christmas Vacation, the Griswolds, all that stuff. So an absolute lock in my house. The house getting the uh the lights going crazy fucking just so many great things and bob fox is like yep doesn't really you know what i just never grew up with it i don't even know if i've ever seen the full movie start to finish
Starting point is 00:53:57 so it was one of those things where like it just kind of hit missed the mark i guess so you know what i'm not gonna blame you i'm blaming your I'm blaming your brother. That's your brother's fault right there. I mean, he made this beautiful nerd we know and love today, but he didn't give him the right Christmas time. I mean, I made sure my younger siblings were watching it growing up. This was one of the ones that was in the rotation. And again, young kid like me growing up, and you get the girl from the lingerie store,
Starting point is 00:54:23 and you see her like that even gives you like whoa a little bit of Christmas joy coming out it gets you excited so it touches all the bases from when you're young to when you're old and everywhere in between so Christmas Vacation 2 which I'm guessing we both have the same number one should we say it on three?
Starting point is 00:54:39 yeah one two three Home Alone hell yeah that would have been fucked up if we had two different movies because i don't know what else i know if i would have been like fucking the polar express no home alone is the goat come on pesci and home alone one of the greatest comedic performances of all time kevin mccallister uh i mean the perfect
Starting point is 00:55:05 shithead kid that you want to root for anyway even though he is a bit of a shithead in that movie like the family all family mother the worst set of people you've ever seen in your life right like they're so mean to that kid like it has the rewatch ability where you can get on stuff like that uncle frank i saw joey melanero just blog the thing about Uncle Frank being an absolute piece of shit. It was like, and again, old person like me, 1990 is when the original came out. I remember, I was old enough to remember at that point, I think I was eight years old, like that movie
Starting point is 00:55:35 was smash upon smash upon smash. It was such a fucking, like, it was an event when it came out and it just absolutely crushed. Another movies that made us, that's awesome, right? A great one where you realize like they had to build the such a fucking like it was an event when it came out and it just absolutely crushed another movies that made us that's awesome right a great one where you realize like they had to build the house like separately they didn't shoot it inside the house you're like what it was in a gym in like a chicago gym or something like that completely blows your mind and then when two came out this
Starting point is 00:56:00 kind of goes back it was i think it was this and ace ventura 2 just broke my heart because i love those two movies and the seat only come along too i i like it but i love the first one i like the second i i i don't think i'm a good sequel guy there's very few sequels that i watch and i absolutely i don't love die hard 2 i love die hard 3 but i don't love die hard 2 maybe it's just something about the continuity where you have to like make the original characters maybe the relationships die hard 3 technically wasn't a sequel when it was first written you know it was a completely different movie exactly and maybe that's why i liked it so much is that it it's like they they kind of like wedge die hard into another movie um but i mean i like it i i think people that and again people that say two is better than one i'm like are you out of your fucking no i i don't get
Starting point is 00:56:43 that at all like i don't think two is anywhere near better than one or even close to as good as one but i think two is a very enjoyable movie there's a lot of funny things in two oh yeah i think our uh home alone 2 is probably one of the better sequels it's just as like a young kid and then i'm like going to see it and i'm like oh man and it's like it just feels like they took the first movie and they reheated it right it feels a little bit like leftovers which again definitely if you don't laugh during all those booby traps you get to see some of the booby traps come back in a different form with the bar with the paint cans and stuff like that talk boy that he had and too i always wanted one of those i had one of those as a kid my parents got me one and i have a friend who used to be like oh that's how i know you were spoiled can
Starting point is 00:57:20 you talk boy i'm like i don't know it was one of my christmas gifts that year like it's not it wasn't it wasn't it was like groundbreaking like, I don't know. It was one of my Christmas gifts that year. Like it's not, it wasn't, it wasn't, it was like groundbreaking technology, but it wasn't like I got a fucking, you know, 50 inch TV for my, for Christmas. It was a tape recorder with like, they slapped the Home Alone logo on and, you know, raised the price like 50 bucks. Yeah. Home Alone. That's the goat, ladies and gentlemen, there's nothing better than that. I mean, the only thing that I could take a point away from Home Alone on is that I always have to turn away when I see the tarantula. I really hate that. And, oh, my God, the nail into the foot every time is like, I mean, Quiet Place just stole that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I cannot. When I put up the blog about the Airbnb for $25, I said I could hear it in the gift of the fucking foot going through the nail. The nail going through the foot. I go, oh, it just – I turn away whenever that comes on, and I like I'll try to make it so I can't hear it because just hearing it fucking gives me the skivvies. But Angels with Filthy Souls, I mean, that movie is as close to as perfect a movie, let alone a Christmas movie, as you can get because it hits all the spots,
Starting point is 00:58:22 the booby traps, peshy fucking brushes. The score, John Williams. Yes, the score is phenomenal. Ten out of ten, yeah. movie as you can get because it hits all the spots in the booby traps passion for john williams yes the score is phenomenal 10 out of 10 yeah and marv is even like uh daniel stern is an awesome like they just nail it they they're such different physically um old man marley and like kind of the redemption i will say like old man marley take an advice from like an eight-year-old it's like if my fucking if someone like was like not talking to their family and then sienna's like you should talk to your family i'll be like dude you needed a fucking seven-year-old kid and i know it's coming from a different perspective but jesus christ man yeah um also receiving votes here all right so give me like a like was this
Starting point is 00:59:00 even close to getting on your list here grinch which one okay so that's a fuck i didn't think about that i'm thinking animated because i'm old are you a jim carrey guy i always love the jim carrey one yes okay so i i was always i always run with the animated one just because that was my like go-to as a kid yeah i mean i like the animated one too i would always watch both but like i loved the jim carrey one as a kid the cute dog in it cindy luhu who's grown up to be a fucking punk rock like rock star has she really oh yeah oh jesus um christmas story love christmas story if die hard if you said die hard it's not a christmas movie robbie christmas story would probably be my number three have to watch it every year on christmas day my brother owns the uh he has the
Starting point is 00:59:42 lamp he puts it in his window every year he is the replica it's i mean as good as it gets all right i hate to do this this is fucked up doing it after the case we'll get get the fucking uh reopening here your brother's on the sus list now if he's that much of a diehard of christmas story if you told me your brother's not a big christmas movie guy i'd be like all right you know it's not for everyone he's that much of a fan he had the lamp but he couldn't just show you national lampoons once. I don't think he liked national lampoons. Apparently not. Which makes it even more sus Robbie.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I don't trust anyone that doesn't like it. I told you. I'm going to text him after the podcast and ask him if he liked it. Should we tease what we're going to, I don't know if this rewatch is going to happen. Oh, no, we,
Starting point is 01:00:20 we, we, we, we got to tease it. Cause it's on my like honorable mention list. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Um, I will say Christmas story, the 24 hour, we we we gotta tease it because it's on my like honorable mention list okay okay fair enough um i will say christmas story the 24-hour like marathon it's like the greatest marketing classic yeah and then everyone has to give their opinions on it and stuff like that i think it's a
Starting point is 01:00:35 good movie i like it um like you said the pink bunny the lamp you have your moments shoot your kid has the quotes um i never like really knew of it until later in my childhood. And I don't know. I like it. I don't like it. It would, it was receiving votes, Charlie Brown, Christmas.
Starting point is 01:00:51 It's my question. I feel like Charlie Browns are like, everyone likes the idea of them more than they actually like watching them. Right. Oh, I like watching them. You like watching them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:01 We used to have, my mom made Charlie Brown cutouts for our window every year. She would make the little tree. I think Charlie Brown Christmas is the best of all the Charlie Browns. I think, like, the Great Pumpkin is not as good as the – I did that poor-ass tree. I'm like, I think I see my little myself in Charlie Brown. I'm bald.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I have a fucking egg egg. I always mess up when I'm supposed to do stuff. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer? Oh, yeah. Big time. Love how much of an asshole Rudolph's dad is. It makes me laugh every single time I see it. Uh,
Starting point is 01:01:28 I even like the, uh, straight to VHS sequel. It was like Rudolph and the Island of misfit toys. Yes. Yup. Yup. The misfit toys are awesome too.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I love quarter of the misfit toys. Santa Claus, Tim Allen, I think is an under, like not underrated, but I feel like people like that's just a good fucking like funny movie it's well done um i'm just a big fan of the santa claus i probably haven't watched it in years too i gotta rewatch i haven't seen that one in years but i liked it yeah and this is my last one that
Starting point is 01:01:53 i have on the list here uh frosty the snowman i'm gonna say die hard is more of a christmas movie than frosty like there's like like santa comes in it but die hard like it's consistently christmas christ christmas time the reason this is happening because of christmas there's barely any christmas for like 90 of frosty the snowman frosty gets weird at the end too where he melts and all that shit yeah i don't like frost that fucked me up man that i can see that greenhouse in my head and it's like a house of horrors i didn't like like that. I imagine you probably have some other ones. Nightmare Before Christmas, Christmas movie, Halloween movie, Thanksgiving movie. I've always thought more of a Christmas movie because it ends on the Christmas note.
Starting point is 01:02:37 It's a wonderful life ends on Christmas, so it's a Christmas movie. So I've always viewed it like that. I've never been the biggest Nightmare Before Christmas guy because I didn't see that until I was pretty older as well. I didn't see that until I was like 14, I well i didn't see that till i was like 14 i feel like um a couple on my list bad santa is the one that i actually kicked off the season with um i love that santa i think it's one of the funniest movies out there i think thurman merman is one of the funniest characters constantly asking billy billy bob if he could fix him a sandwich. Can I fix you a sandwich? Can I fix you sandwiches? Another one that I had on here that some people will say, Robbie, this isn't a Christmas movie.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Stop being an asshole. I'm going to say it is a Christmas movie, especially in the basement, and we are going to be doing a commentary on this one with my brother. It might get contentious about the whole National Lampoon thing, but Batman Returns with Michael Keaton. Now, there is some Christmastime stuff in this movie. contentious about the whole national lampoon thing but uh batman returns with michael keaton now there is some christmas time stuff in this movie you know gotham city is doing the tree lighting ceremony and everything so i i would call this a christmas movie it's snowing the whole time i mean frosty it's snowing that's pretty much how much that's a christmas movie and i'm excited to
Starting point is 01:03:39 do the commentary because the batman 89 commentary we did was a lot of fun that's on the youtube channel you can find that now yep and i'll tell you right now your brother coming into the basement he better be coming with his dukes up i don't say i'm an old man saying put your dukes up put your dukes up we're gonna be debating some christmas talk uh but i mean shit like we're in the basement right now like anything goes in the fucking basement so die hard christmas movie this is a you know batman 2 christmas movie. We're in the basement. Anything fucking goes down here. We're not on Twitter. We're not debating with our parents at the
Starting point is 01:04:09 fucking Thanksgiving table. This is in the basement, so anything goes, especially anything with a little bit of nerd comic culture to it. Also, a recommendation for everyone out there. This is a weird one, and a lot of people haven't seen it. Some people have seen it. It's called Robbie the Reindeer. R-O-B-B-I-E, just like I spell my name.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Ben Stiller does the voice, and his girlfriend is Britney Spears. She does the voice of another reindeer. They did like a trilogy. It's like three little short movies for TV, like three TV movies. They're all like half an hour long, I think. I watched it every year growing up. I loved Robbie the Reindeer. I was all about it, obviously, because he had my name and stuff but i was all it's like kind of
Starting point is 01:04:50 that stop motion rankin and bass style they try to achieve it it's really enjoyable which by the way they do talk about the stop motion for the elf as well where they that's why they had it in there because it does feel like that and if it was bby would you have been like fuck this reindeer i'm out and i feel like having your name in there yeah i it does feel like that. And if it was BBY, would you have been like, fuck this reindeer? I'm out. And I feel like having your name in there. Yeah. I feel like that does that a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And we'll just throw these out. These older ones, Miracle on 34th street, wonderful life. I just, I don't fuck with old movies. I just never have, even when I was young and these are younger or these, I probably have never even watched them like end to end.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I might like them. But even like the original Christmas Carol Scrooge I've never seen all I don't think I've seen it either to be honest yeah so I know people are going to get on Muppets Christmas Carol Muppets Christmas Carol another one Muppets Christmas is a different one as well which is great yep yep so there's a there's a bunch here Polar express is kind of a newer one that's kind of i feel like the next wave of kids is that's going to be one of the ones they grew up with but that that shit just was not from jingle all the way gotta shout out jingle all the way do you consider gremlins a christmas movie you know what i was thinking about it and i said to
Starting point is 01:06:00 my girlfriend months ago like oh have you ever seen gremlin she said no i said oh we should watch that and then I was like, eh, let's wait till Christmas. Yes. So I don't know what that says about it. Maybe I do just subconsciously. I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:11 ah, let's wait till Christmas just because it, it has Christmas vibes throughout it. Like I would say, yeah, Chris gremlin scared the shit out of me as a kid gremlins. And even another Christmas movie, um,
Starting point is 01:06:20 this is going to sound so fucked up, but the Mickey mouse Christmas Carol, Jacob Marley, when Goofy's Jacob Marley scared the piss out of me, scared the ever living, as well as the ghost of Christmas, I believe future both scared the shit out of me as like, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:34 a very young kid, but a kid nonetheless, it scared the absolute crap out of me. So in the YouTube comments, I want to see everyone's top three Christmas movies, comment below, throw diehard in there, throw diehard, not in there. If you want to do it's top three Christmas movies. Comment below. Throw Die Hard in there. Throw Die Hard not in there. If you want to do it,
Starting point is 01:06:48 remember. If it's got Christmas vibes, throw it in there. Yes, yes. If just a word Santa or a Santa hat can be seen, fucking throw it in. Who's going to tell you not? It's a free-for-all down there. Absolutely. All right. Thank you to everyone for tuning in. Thank you to our sponsors as always, and we will see
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