My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 170 - 'HAWKEYE' EPISODE 3 RECAP WITH CLEM
Episode Date: December 3, 2021Robbie and Clem break down the third episode of ‘Hawkeye’, the introduction of ‘Echo’ into this universe, the growing father/daughter relationship between Clint and Kate Bishop, whether or not... we’ll see Kingpin, and MORE! PLUS, a special Christmas ranking after the Sus List! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Go to CutsClothing.com/basement for 15% off Liquid Death: Get FREE SHIPPING on all water/merch at LiquidDeath.com/momsbasement **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3Chi and Barstool Sports
I am your host Robbie Fox, I am here with my bro Clem for another Hawkeye recap
It is Hawkeye episode three, week two, because
they gave us one and two right off the jump. So this is week three. It's called Echoes and
focuses a lot on a character named Echo. In this episode, they call her Maya a lot. But how are we
doing, Clem? Doing great, Bob. I think we have a good show on our hands here. You know, first two
episodes, it's so much to take in. This was in this was its first like a teacher on the first day of school
you can't really judge her by that you know it's like yeah of course she's nice to us in the first
day of school perfect way to put it bob fox i fucking love it and third one i was happy when
it's all said and done i saw that it got the report i think it's the lowest watch disney plus
marvels to show so far which again
not everyone can listen to jose young's to get you know the background because we've got enough
people again saying this has got me properly prepared and excited for the show so uh they
listen you know i'm rooting for the mcu at all times but when that report came out it made me
feel a little bit good because i texted you and I was like, viewership for like my mom's basement is down. I was like, what's going on? And then when this came out, I was like, oh, okay, no, that's, that's fine. Because less people are watching Hawkeye.
We're going to blame the Thanksgiving holiday. Everyone was fucking all over the place. They probably forgot it was even coming out that day, right? That was Wednesday was when everyone travels and stuff like that. So we'll just throw everything.
It was a stacked week.
We had black Friday,
the sale.
Thank you to everyone who bought stuff.
I saw a bunch of people tweeting us.
They bought the cap stoolie hoodie.
Shout out Nathan Hearst for being the great designer of that.
Yup.
I, I,
I also got a few people who,
that was their like Spotify wrapped.
We were the number one podcast,
which is always a trip.
Whenever we can like reach that level,
it blows my mind.
So shout out to all the listeners,
subscribers, you subscribe to subscribe five stars episodes all that stuff i
went in and i didn't see any subscription uh any new uh reviews last week tell you brokenhearted
i was sad i why are you so sad at thanksgiving i'm like no i asked for just like one nice review
i don't know maybe it was like they didn't write anything in the review but i didn't have any nice
words in the review made me sad ruined my thanksgiving but hey if you guys could do it this week maybe
that would be nice little early christmas yeah don't ruin his christmas you ruined his thanksgiving
already by the way dave's story about ruining thanksgiving how funny was that that was that
was an underrated like that's already in my eyes like an all-time barstool story that's funny to me you gotta let
the thing we cannot speak of on youtube gotta look at that little mg though you gotta look at those
make sure you're taking them you always say start with a half and you go from there don't eat a
whole fucking cookie or candy bar or whatever it may be um and we always you know we always like
chat a little bit before we get into the thing is this is this everyone or just me i feel like ever since the pandemic started like when tv shows start like nothing feels real anymore the schedules
and i even feel like the banter like i feel like back in the day when curb would come on there'd
just be like a half hour worth of curb discussion afterwards last night always sunny came on i had
no idea always sunny was coming back until like two hours before my wife told me like i didn't
read about it online i didn't know about it through commercials i just feel like we've kind of lost
like that sense of knowing when a show is coming out and i imagine hawkeye was a part of that
because of thanksgiving as well but it just feels like we live in these times where everything is
we're so like stuck at home online and all that kind of stuff the typical schedule of life has
kind of just disappeared it's not we gotta spread the word though because like you said i think we got a good show on our hands like we gotta tell the people
hawkeye's worth watching tell your friends watch hawkeye and then watch the my mom's basement
breakdowns the recap yes like spread the word all around we even had uh one of the tracksuit
mafia guys tweet me this week how was that uh kind of scary when a guy he's a fake tracksuit
mafia like if you're so good at being a tracksuit mafia guy that you get cast as it,
hey, maybe you are one in real life.
Don't want to fuck with that guy.
That guy, he's a friend of the podcast.
Whether or not he wants to be, he is now a friend of the podcast.
He said he was going to rip the old Navy beanie off my head
if I didn't tell him where Kate Bishop was.
The old Bob Fox would have sent the old octagon Bob at him,
but you've matured.
You've gotten a little smarter with Barstool now.
Ever since –
Yeah, once we like founded Rough and Rowdy –
not founded it, but bought Rough and Rowdy,
I was like, you know what?
Now that I could challenge someone to the Octagon
and they could actually accept, I'm going to stop doing that.
Yeah, and I don't think Dave would be like, oh, no, Bob,
you can just say no to this guy.
It's like, no, Dave doesn't turn down money
and one of our guys on the pay-per-view card for sure. Yeah. All right. Let's get into
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in on like the we see like a girl's ponytail and then we see her from the front and immediately me
and my girlfriend looked at each other we're like is that hailey stein that doesn't look anything
like her it is not it's maya who we saw at the end of the last episode, Echo. She's in school and kind of learning to adapt. We know right away
she's deaf and they play that a lot in the episode. They actually, like sonically, this episode goes
back and forth a lot between muffled sounds, like no sound and normal sound, which is very cool. It
was a cool dynamic, very different um we see her father
uh maya's father is helping her out helping her adapt to this new world she's like why can't we
afford the school with all deaf people he's like i'm sorry i couldn't make it work we get hints of
her task mask uh task master like ability right away where she could look at something and then
copy it she's got the uh prosthetic leg and in martial arts school it looks like oh man she's getting into a fight girl with a prosthetic
leg against a bigger guy this is gonna not go well for her but she uses the move that she saw
against him she wins and then we flash forward to the future post snap and we see ronan killing a
gang in a factory very much like the end game scene it was like that cool one-shot style we're
seeing him through the windows and he winds up killing her father she sees it and now we know
a little bit about her backstory she's not just a one-dimensional villain she's out for revenge
because ronan killed her father very cool intro to the episode i thought yeah i i dug like a quick
little origin story and i always do kind of like when a villain or whatever echo may be in the long run, when it's like they have a very rational reason to hate a certain superhero.
Or in this case, like, by the way, I think I'm just calling him the Ronin right now.
I fucking think he's so much more badass.
The Ronin is cool.
It's like the Bronx.
When you say the Bronx, oh, the Bronx.
Instead of just Bronx, New York.
First of all, I have to say this.
Seeing – so she was in middle school?
Yeah.
But just seeing a kid and it's 2007 was such a gut punch for an old man like me.
I was like, mother – where were you in 2007, Bob?
You were like eight years old?
I was nine.
Oh, goddammit.
So you're probably like almost her age at that point.
Yeah, I was in fourth grade, yeah. I imagine all the other olds who are listening are right there with me like
that was like 1990 something 1980 something when we were growing up that's what you would see
uh her dad had a sweet ass ponytail that was that was one no like the dad's in this show
between like the goatees the old hair all that kind of stuff and then um her dad uh also check off dragon did you hear
that when they're talking about dragons and stuff and i'm like when the dragon comes into the world
it's going to get stronger i'm like that's check off dragon as soon as they were talking about that
i i said like echo's got to meet shang chi one day like she's talking about i want to see a dragon i
want to meet a dragon that could be an all-time like setup for a payoff down the line where echo
sees a dragon alongside Jean-Chi.
And she's just like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is real.
I mean, when the MCU started, my mom's basement wasn't a thing.
I wasn't working at Barstool.
I mean, fuck, when the MCU started, I mean, I don't even know if I was even reading Barstool.
Like, when Iron Man came out.
No, I wasn't.
I was 10.
Yeah, exactly.
You shouldn't have been.
That's like a fucking another flashback 2007 here.
So but just being able to like like we're going to go through all these things with these watches.
And then whenever the end game, whenever the Kang game comes at the end of all this, we're going to be like, holy shit.
You're going to see her look up and she's going to see that drag.
And we're like, we told you back in episode three recap of Hawkeye.
We fucking knew this was coming. so i'm so stoked for that also i had i had to tweet it out like it's so hard with the spoilers and not being able
to say stuff i just had to do the no context for episode three i had to do the little hand of the
kingpin from game of thrones when we saw the uncle are we calling that fucking uncle kingpin right
there are we calling it uncle kingpin i think that's uncle kingpin i think it's like it's gotta be right he had the black sleeve like he was wearing like a
suit he looked like a big figure they referenced him a couple times throughout this episode i don't
think uncle will be happy about that i think this is uh mephisto kingpin here yes exactly
fat man auto repair that's where her dad gets killed by the Ronin. So it's like, oh, did you see the tweet that did you send it to me?
The Kingpin, like where they had the auction in episode one is apparently Kingpin's house from Daredevil.
They shot it at the same location.
Really?
Did you see that?
No, I think it might have been Jeff that sent it to me.
That's why maybe I thought you did.
But yeah. Okay. Bob Fox, you got to do this right now the metal meter the blood on face
metal pretty metal metal pretty metal that's a metal origin story yeah
and did we i think jose had told us that she has a helmet and it has like the hand on it right oh
yeah it's like the handprint so if if? Oh yeah. It's like the handprint. So if, if she does that confirmed metal,
we're just putting that out now in case we get the echo, you know,
full get up down the road.
Will they do it?
Or will that, is that too close to the flag smashers?
Oh, I love my flag.
But if they ruined the metal ass fucking echo origin story or the echo
outfit, then I'm going to be pissed about that.
Yeah.
So I think, I think we are looking forward to Kingpin. I'm going to mark it down right now. echo origin story or the echo outfit that i'm gonna be pissed about that yeah so i think i
think we are looking forward to kingpin i'm gonna mark it down right now i'm saying yes kingpin will
be in this series they showed the they showed like the one part of kingman that isn't like
huge too like it's like the littlest part of his arm doesn't have sausage fingers i'm proud of my
guy here and i i think there was a couple of things where it was like,
I saw someone,
I think it was emergency.
Also,
it's like,
it could be the gym she was at.
Could have been daredevils gym or something like that.
So we're living in this weird daredevil King pin side of the world right
now.
And I'm pretty fucking excited about it.
Yeah.
So am I.
So Maya confronts them.
They're still tied to the little unicorns that are like going back and
forth.
The tracksuit mafia is like putting quarters in there, laughing at him it's a funny scene the way they play it and she
interrogates them about the ronin clint says listen kate's not rolling come on you think this girl's
rolling like ronin's dead jesus how do you know ronin's dead and he says black widow killed the
ronin she's like oh very convenient that someone's dead killed someone.
You know, the person we're looking for is dead.
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What did you think about this whole scene the the bringing
up black widow once again i thought it was interesting that he brought her up again
considering we saw her in the you know the play rogers the musical in episode one it's like a
little thing in the back of your mind that reminds you like yelena's coming oh i didn't even here we
go people just saw the whole mind you guys have to watch on youtube so
you can see my brain explode in real time i didn't even think about that that's why i gotta keep
reminding us about black widow i think checkoff's widow that's out there as well now um i loved it
too because i mean it's fucked up to say but like black widow they can't verify the story with black
widow because she is currently on vormir in this timeline, fucking splattered to like a pancake.
So I loved how they
did that. And like you said, every single
thing was true. It's like she killed him figuratively.
The Ronin.
Everything he said, because I watched
it again just to make sure. I was like, oh shit.
The way he's saying it. And
who talks like this, Bob?
Our boy Ben Kenobi from a certain point
of view,
he's telling the fucking truth.
So it's like, even if you plug them up to a lie detector,
it all fucking pans out.
So I love that side of things.
I also love that the warehouse they were at,
we find out is a KB Toys warehouse,
which by the way, I don't even know the last time KB,
KB Toys might've not been in business since like 2007 too.
Like I can't, that was even dated for a dated abandoned warehouse
like thing like if you had done toys r us i bet they wanted to toys r us and they couldn't maybe
clear the brand name but seeing kb dude when i was growing up kb was perennially 40 off every
fucking sticker had was like crossed out the price and it had like the sales price that place was
fucking on clearance or sale it's like furniture stores they're always on clearance and they've been in business for like 30 years always being
clearance kb was the same thing and i just loved seeing that was the warehouse we were in the whole
time i fucking just brought such a and like you know a christmas vibe to it with toys oh yeah
stuff so that was awesome and i have to ask you because i i don't really care either way my kids
fucking love them imagine dragons did you
think did you take that slander personally are you an imagine dragons guy no i'm really not and
i actually texted kevin owens from the wwe because we've done interviews and he loves imagine dragons
he saw them in concert and i was like dude you got to watch this with your son because you'll
laugh at the back and forth they have i I'm not the biggest Imagine Dragons guy.
Like, I think the song they used in the Mission Impossible trailer was great.
I forget what it's called.
Can't Stop the Friction or something.
The radioactive stuff and that stuff, ooh, I don't like.
I really don't like the singer with the drums on the stage.
It's all silly to me.
But Monster, they have a song called Monster that I think is pretty good.
But like, it's a shame they're turning into the new Nickelback.
But I thought this back and forth was very funny.
So that's what I was going to say.
It feels a little Nickelback-y, but then it goes to the point where they get so much hate.
I'm like, all right, let's pump the brakes on it. Because it's like everyone, you heard a couple of Imagine Dragons songs and like you straight up don't have a soul if you don't get a little excited for it.
Yeah, they got a couple of good ones.
It is the peak of like an intermission song or like a stoppage during a hockey game.
Like they're going to throw that out of the garden and you're going to get excited.
Also, by the way, just so I brought up Nickelback, this is one take that I've always believed.
Rockstar by Nickelback.
It's a fucking great music video.
I mean, the song is a good song. The fucking
the music video is so
and it's like, it's a time capsule
of that fucking time of our lives.
A lot of their music videos are,
I feel like. They like capture that time
period. Kid Rock, The Girls
Next, what is it? The Girls Next Door? Is that
the name of the Playboy Bunnies? Was that the
name of the show with them? I think so, yeah.
But just all them, and it's like, oh, Was that the name of the show with them? I think so, yeah. Yeah, so it was like, but just all them.
And it's like, oh, that's who were like the celebrities back then.
I fucking just love that video.
It's so fucking crazy.
So yeah, a lot of Imagine Dragons.
And that was also like very, like again, like Jose said, very relatable.
The guy who buys the tickets for his girlfriend for the concert he wants to go to.
I have to ask you, Bob Fox, is it an acceptable move if if if you're
if if lady fox bought you tickets to you know a rangers game yeah and then or let's see i guess
it would it would have to be if you bought her tickets to a rangers game and then she's like
i want to take my sister is that an acceptable move i think i kind of love that move i just
want to say i think i kind of love the girlfriend's move
of being like it's tough it's like I would justify I in my mind I'd be like all right I'll
play Halo all night like that would be a fun night for me but like it would be it would be a it would
be a gut punch I think to hear that and but I like how like he, they reverse the move on the guy. So I just love that Papa Clem infamously for when mama Clem,
before they were married,
he asked for her finger size the entire time.
She's thinking she's getting an engagement ring.
He bought her a bowling ball.
It came with shoes,
but it was an all time blow up in your face gift move.
And it wasn't obvious for himself,
but he bought her a bowling ball and he was in did he not even think about it probably not he's
a fucking knucklehead just like me that's hilarious that is a really funny story um there's a great
like kind of bonding moment between clint and kate here kind of a father-daughter moment this that
a lot of that in this show a lot of father daughter dynamics and stuff he says now
is not the time to be scared let's muster up that overconfidence that i've seen so much of
he breaks free he's like on my signal on my mark or whatever and she's like what do you mean like
i can't break free and in the back of your mind you're like come on that's not the signal kate
he starts jumping over through shelves they really like make fun use of the kb toys warehouse like
the way he's jumping
over him the tracksuit mafia just like a bunch of idiots like lovable idiots maya smashes his
hearing aid at one point which i thought was a pretty badass scene kind of like bane being like
oh i was born in the darkness you know she was like i was born with this and eventually clint
recovers his bow and it's fucking game on i said as soon as clint
has the ball it's like oh it's fucking over for these tracksuit mafia idiots yeah and this episode
we got to see you know some cool ass archery shit which i mean oh yeah i mean this shot the shot
that he frees kate with one of hawkeye's coolest moments yes and you can't probably do like a whole
movie or a long running series for seasons where it's like sooner or later.
It's like, all right, we've seen the fucking arrow trick enough times, Clint.
But during this one, very cool.
I love when a hero, a new hero especially, they stink in the beginning.
And Kate's still figuring out how to be a hero.
I always love seeing the transition.
So then we see, again, at that Kangane moment down the road when she's just this badass motherfucker, the new Hawkeye, basically.ye basically we're gonna be like remember when she couldn't get out of that like giraffe or whatever
and gave me a warehouse um also love seeing the ball pit ball pits fucking rule man i mean again
this might date me a little bit but i'm pretty sure they were still around when you were a kid
did you have discovery zones growing up we had things that were like discovery zone it was like
dinosaur theme that we went to and kids would have birthday parties there and stuff and you know it would have
the foam things where you could jump into the ball pit i'll never forget they had a little ball pit
i might have told this story in my mom's basement before they had a little ball pit probably just
like i don't know this big it was like one person ball pit and i looked at it and i was like i'm
gonna fucking cannonball right into that motherfucker it was like a jacuzzi size ball pit and i looked at it and i was like i'm gonna fucking cannonball right into that motherfucker it was like a jacuzzi size ball pit so i run up the stairs cannonball right onto a
kid's head it was just underneath he was underneath like one layer of balls and i swear he didn't say
a word to me he just like got up looked at me like i just broke his neck and like walked out of the
ball pit to his mom i was like i'm so sorry i didn't see you he looked he like you broke his neck because you broke a kid's let's call it what it is ball pits
underratedly dangerous that was the one drawback of them i'm pretty sure that's why discovery zone
went out of business because i think people were just like breaking bones left and right yeah even
though it was relatively safe it wasn't safe enough but the way hawkeye uses this ball pit
is great too how he like slides under it like a snake and then grabs them i had a
little bit of uh double dare vibes too when they'd have like the ball pit parts of the obstacle course
or guts or whatever would have those little things so i i just gave me so warm and fuzzy inside and
i remember back in the day on the like when the internet 1.0 you'd have like these viral pictures
or a person who just has like they made their entire like living room a ball pit or something
oh yeah and it's something i always wanted to do once i got a house and then once i got a house we had this little tiny uh ball but
i think actually the nard dog gave me one she had like one that when her kids were growing up
and sienna was like two balls everywhere in the house i'm like this is the worst idea ever but
if i could have only bob this is your time to live that ball pit life so i'm just telling you
if you want it for christmas let me know this room is pretty small we could maybe yeah we can maybe fill it up my my office in my apartment with balls get it to
get it for the wifey for christmas be like oh i got you a ball pit you know i think you'd really
enjoy that but it's really for you i think that works for everybody um eventually clint frees
kate like i said with an amazing shot hits her in the in the tape like right between the the wrists
kate hits a 619 i wrote down like on the on the, like right between the wrists. Kate hits a six one nine.
I wrote down like on the, on the pole, she slides all the way around.
That kicks a guy down.
They get free out of the building.
They hotwire car kind of funny back and forth where they're like, let's take this car.
It's cool.
He's like, I'm not breaking into that fucking car.
That car is awesome.
Um, they hotwire and then we get trick arrow central during this chase scene.
Clint doesn't have his hearing.
So they're
kind of like going back and forth there it's hard to communicate at first and then by the end
they really like build a bond they're able to communicate they're on the same page it's cool
to see but the trick arrows we see we see an acid arrow that burns up the traffic lights we see some
smoke arrows which are purple i like that hawkeye kind of, as you can see, our theme is purple. I like that he's got all like purple themed equipment now.
He's got a rope arrow that kind of like grapple hooks everything in sight
and pulls it into whatever the arrow was shot at.
So in this case, it was shot at the car,
and the car pulls all of these Christmas trees into it.
Very funny scene.
He had a Play-Doh arrow, they called it.
It was like just a gooey purple thing.
And the best one
the pim particle arrow where he has kate shoot one all the way up on the bridge he's like just
aim high aim high and then he shoots one and the way they focused in on him at the last second was
great because it's like what is that lit up i couldn't see it and then they focus in on it
pim and he shoots it makes the arrow fucking gigantic pretty awesome that was like this is how you can make hawkeye cool it doesn't take
too much but it's like a fucking grab bag worth of shit i feel like i'm gonna go another tangent
here but i just love grab bags in general i love oh yeah like the comic books or the cards or all
that kind of thing and you just get to pick it out and having a grab bag worth of arrows that do
funny funky shit i don't this might be in the comics you know we could have
asked those i think it was i read a recap that said that this chase sequence is actually one of
like the fan favorite sequences from the comic and this is how you make hawkeye cool and also
in that fight scene at the warehouse hawkeye doing like the backwards like shoot with no looking like
oh yeah like the han solo yeah i like him showing off a little it's like dude i know i'm the fucking like
fifth tier avenger but i think i'm pretty fucking cool i'm cooler than you are normal person it's
like yeah you're right you're like glenn i got you on that i love the um again we've talked about it
on the podcast a lot i'm not like a bond guy a boring guy in terms of the chases i'm just not
a car chase guy the way this car chase started off with like the one camera, the panning, the Christmas music going on.
And then once it became more of a traditional car chase, you had like you're guessing what this arrow is going to do.
That is how you keep my attention.
I was fucking enthralled the entire time.
And I hope people fucking watch this show because it's a good fucking show.
I actually enjoyed everything about it. Everything about the sequence was like, wow, I haven't seen that before. fucking watch this show because it's a good fucking show i actually so creative everything
about everything about the sequence was like wow like i haven't seen that before like it's actually
very creative yep i think the worst the worst fucking arrow to be hit with was the one that
gathered all the christmas trees if you get that sap on you it's not coming off for like a day i'd
rather get hit by that my needles everywhere oh everywhere this i know kevin's like having
like wars on twitter about this i think it was brought up on ksu radio or something
i was a fucking real tree guy like like not only like real tree guy like but i was like
fuck all the fake tree fakers you're not a real christian hand back your card change religions
blah blah blah if you don't have a real tree then i had kids and i was like nope fuck it's like the amount of like work you have to do just getting it in the house you have to
water it you have to like you get sticky you have to worry about your kids no way i am victory for
life now oh life they're on the same page by the end of this sequence that's kind of what it's
showing it's like kate's like saying things out the window that clint can't hear and then he's
repeating them back to her and she's like oh look at that we're thinking the same way
and at the end of it clint tells kate that she wasn't wrong when she called herself one of the
world's greatest archers which in kate's mind has to be like the greatest moment of her life like
this is her hero she took up archery because she saw hawkeye do all that shit in 2012 and now he's
like you're one of the fucking world's greatest,
pretty fucking awesome.
I have to admit this.
I didn't even think of this at the time,
but when you said that I'll never forget.
And this is like a much lesser distinction and a little corny,
but I remember it was like one of the first blogs I did on the site.
It was Derek Fisher.
It was the Derek Fisher,
Matt Barnes fight.
And I blogged something. Cause it was obviously involved the Knicks.
And I remember Portnoy blogged it himself the next day after I had blogged it. And it was the Derek Fisher, Matt Barnes fight. And I blogged something cause it was obviously involved the Knicks. And I remember Portnoy blogged it himself the next day after I had blogged it.
It was like, uh, Clem blogged it perfectly, but,
and he wanted to just give his tape. I was like, Holy shit.
Dave Portnoy just said I blocked something perfect. Cause it's like,
that's the reason I got into blogging.
It was like the original four guys that we was talking about who got this
thing started. I was like, so from that moment on,
I can kind of feel what Kate meant, whatate felt if archery was smut blogging when
when mark hamill posted that picture of us on his instagram and was like the least i could do is
fucking take a picture whatever that's my my hawkeye moment personally shout out everyone
that's had one of those moments again being the world's greatest archer or whatever your own personal moment was shout out to everyone who's had that and i wish
everyone could just feel that moment one time in their life uh it was fucking awesome but um
the the hearing thing i again it's those little quirks that i i like about this show um it's i
think we i don't talk about on the podcast we talked about it offline but there you know when
shows do an entire episode with you know nothing being said my wife was a big buffy the vampire and it's
everything is sung for an episode it's just nothing but music so it's like shit like that
i always find cool and just like the whole thing where again it's it starts with echo when she's a
kid and it goes into clint with the hearing aid and everything being off and just communication
it feels so hopeless as the viewer as you're watching that but then you see how they overcome it that is fucking cool as shit man so i was a big fan of
that and credit to like all the sound mixing sound editing in this episode like that really like
added to it the way they were doing like the muffled stuff when they would cut to clint's
perspective and stuff we get a lot of it in this upcoming scene where kate has to help clint out
with a super sad phone call uh with his youngest. Like he gets the phone call from his wife and he picks up and he's like,
Hey mama,
what's going on?
And she's like,
she writes down little boy and he's like,
Oh,
it's fucking Nathaniel.
What's going on?
She has to write everything for him.
He says like,
it's okay if you're not going to be home for Christmas.
Super sad.
When you think like,
this is the first Christmas since they all got snapped.
He hasn't seen his fucking family on Christmas in five
years. Probably been murdering families
on Christmas for the past five years.
So
it's fucking sad.
Bob, that was like something I would
say right there. I couldn't believe you just brought that
into the world. You're not wrong
though. I would have been like, and someone
hit us up about this too.
Did your mom cut your fucking hair because you look like a goddamn shaggy dog right now what the
fuck is going on there um but yeah your heart bled a little oh and by the way he's acquitted
of all charges he didn't want mayo on them on the hot dog he said how about ketchup yes yes it was
mama and again i loved hearing him say mama in this episode again it reminds me of endgame every
single time uh but it's like,
they're hammering that home.
It's like,
you are gonna,
are you going to get there by Christmas?
That is our timeline.
That is the countdown,
whether or not it's Christmas week,
the finale episode,
which is just so great.
We're going to watch that.
And like two days later,
celebrate Christmas.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be perfect.
It's good.
It's going to be just like with home alone.
You're like,
I hope Kevin gets to see his mom or his family and everyone spoiler alert they do we fucking know by the way did you
see the home alone house is airbnb you can rent it i read your blog about that yeah and you had
you had a good ranking of all the things you would want to do you got to recreate the dance scene
gotta recreate the dance it would be a pain in the ass it wouldn't be worth the juice wouldn't
be worth the squeeze but just to say you did it would be worth it and that fucking song bang so
hard jingle bell rock oh we're gonna and little spoiler we're gonna do because we don't know how
great like how how much meat these episodes are gonna have so we're gonna do at the end of the
next three episodes we're gonna do a rankings about different christmas stuff so today you
have you have to listen to the end and then you're gonna you're gonna put in the comments your
rankings boom i just loaded that on the fly bob Bob Fox. Oh, look at that little piece. We got Christmas rankings and the episode after the sauce list.
So in the next scene,
they go get Clint's hearing aid fixed.
Then they go to breakfast at breakfast.
Kate is talking to me about his branding issue and how he should become
more recognizable.
And she draws a little sketch of like,
what is kind of the original Hawkeye comic book costume,
which I love.
All of these shows are doing it.
You get it in Loki with the Richard E. Grant costume,
that ridiculous looking whatever.
You get it in WandaVision when they dress up for Halloween.
You get it in Hawkeye just from a sketch.
Will we get it in the future?
Who knows?
That would be kind of funny if she like makes him a fabric suit,
makes him try it on or something.
He's showing up in that suit in Kangame.
Let's just call it what it is. It'd be great and clint says he never viewed himself as a role model it's a very
revealing conversation about his perspective towards the whole hero thing his his role as a
hero um what heroes should do he tells kate about the sacrifices that she'll have to miss out on
he's talking about like family stuff obviously obviously, maybe some Ronan stuff.
They even talk a little bit about Ronan.
She's like, is that because Ronan's someone close to you?
Is that why you have to keep the identity close, whatever?
It was a good scene.
Another scene where you could see
the father-daughter relationship building
between Kate and Clint.
Yeah, and as someone that thought for some reason
they were going to be father,
I thought the daughter was going to be the next Hawkeye.
But I could almost see the same dynamic going on between them, right?
So I dug that.
New York City subway getting a little bit of love in this entire episode.
They're bouncing in and out, so I can smell it.
I wonder if they really shot that on a subway.
My girlfriend said that to me.
She's like, do you think they really shot that on a subway or recreated it?
I was like, they probably recreated it it looked a little too
clean i was thinking the same thing and then i'm like well this was like corona time potentially
and there was no one in the subway so like it could kind of remember that they said like they
cleaned them for the first time in 20 years or something during we were like what the fuck
they probably like unearthed like these new variants because it was like they've been
sitting dormant these germs and then it just mixed with the Corona.
That could be the plot of like a new ghostbusters movie right there.
Like I was going to say Jurassic Park.
Like,
yeah.
By the way,
I have not,
well,
I don't know if we'll do some,
maybe we'll like do like a segment on the basement.
I still haven't seen ghostbusters,
but I have heard nothing,
but not good things.
Like not even great things.
Like part, like this this movie it's not the
perfect movie ghostbusters but it is the perfect ghostbusters movie that's the perfect it's the
perfect tribute like to the original in my mind i loved it like i saw i don't know if i talked
about on the basement but i really did love it it's like i i get i've seen some criticisms about
it like some critics don't like it because they're like oh it's too much nostalgia too much fan service it's never been an issue for me i like the star wars sequel
trilogy so like i'm in on that you know like so i was in on it from the jump i love paul rudd
the cast is awesome the girl that they have playing egon's like uh granddaughter that's
you see in all the trailers she's the main character amazing she's gonna have
an one of these hayley steinfeld careers calling it now it's like you could tell in true grit hayley
steinfeld great actress got oscar nominated youngest ever this girl maybe not oscar nominated
for ghostbusters but she was tremendous i've heard and it was uh you said that you said you gave that
that level review kfc that level review so he's like an old like me who grew up with the Ghostbusters and shit like that.
And then I know we got our listener Wally or Mario and then my buddy Joe Lightning, all like a little older, all who grew up with Ghostbusters, all said the same exact thing in terms of the tribute.
And it's like, oh, it's like who gives a fuck if it's a great – it's the fucking Ghostbusters.
If it flopped, we would never have a Ghostbusters movie again.
I bet we had someone hit us up.
I think it's my guy TJ.
We're going to get a GC or a GB. We're going to get a Ghostbusters cinematic again I bet we had someone hit us up I think it's my guy TJ we're gonna get a GC or a GB we're gonna get a Ghostbusters
cinematic universe I think
we're getting a sequel after this one I bet
it did so well at the box office so
well like you said with like actual fan
reviews like you look at the Rotten Tomatoes like audience
score it's perfect like the audience loves
this one so like I think we're getting a sequel
after this one hell yeah
from Reitman still like yeah and it's like from from
reitman still like you know it's like under the reitman family it's cool yep yep that's and that's
that's some nerdy basement shit right there so that might be the next that might be a future
you know we're doing shows we're doing movies all that kind of stuff the more stuff we can throw in
the better these basement boys we don't tire we're fucking just keep throwing shit on our plate
fortnight we'll keep pumping out the podcast line your fucking pockets with gold um so they decide to break into eleanor's apartment they're
like let's break in she's got the security system we could hack in we could find out things about
jack we could find out things about um maya's right hand man who we haven't mentioned he looks
like kid harrington don't he that's a good point the whole time i was like this guy is like second
kid harrington what's going on here but yeah they wanted to find out stuff about him
there was a little conversation between him and maya earlier where they were talking about uncle
uncle's not gonna be happy about this oh you're gonna fucking talk about uncle and clint knows
someone is above maya he teases that as well like there's a lot of teasing of this it's kind of like
a thing they've done in every show with yeah not mephisto but it wound up being agatha all along right agatha all along gray song bang did you
just do that by mistake i said yeah wow that's amazing they've incepted your ass did it with
the power broker in falcon and winter soldier they did it with kang in loki and now this one
it's like every show serves to introduce a new character to the universe, which I love.
And I think it's Kingpin in this one.
I really do.
So they go up to the apartment.
Clint's like, are we alone in here?
She's like, definitely.
He's like, definitely.
She's like, definitely.
She goes, tries to hack in.
She gets locked out of the security system right away.
So she's like, this is weird.
He starts walking as if he knows that they're not alone.
And then you see Ronan sword come out.
Episode ends.
This is a, in my opinion, a WandaVision level teaser because I was legit like,
huh?
No, no, no.
The episode's over.
Like I was like stunned.
It felt short to me.
And I don't even think this episode was super short.
I think it was just like a good episode.
It flew by.
Yeah.
It flew by.
There was a lot, there was a few different changes in terms of it you had the battles you had the chase
you had all that kind of stuff um but yeah that oh man oh i hated that fucking wanda credits when
that rolled and that was like during like peak pandemic times there was like nothing else going
on it's like i gotta wait another week for this shit and we're trying to we were fucking uh the
charlie kelly meme right we were fucking uh i was halfway across the world at recording episodes at 4 30 in the
morning so yeah that like the way it just ends and you see the ronin sword which i liked as well
um but yeah i'm all in all a great episode yeah it was like i think it was like 45 minutes so it's
pretty uh on point with the other ones pretty pretty much the same as the last two but do we
see here's a big question, do we see
Kingpin in the next episode, or
do they make us wait until, like, the end?
Is this going to be, like, a finale thing?
I think it's a penultimate thing, right?
I think we're getting our penultimate. We're using our fancy words today.
We're using our fancy words today.
I like that.
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Well, number three on the sus list.
God damn it. As I'm like,
as I'm saying this myself, I'm like, this is going to
sound bad. All right. So, we end.
We get a sword to the throat. People are
saying it might be the swordsman.
The swordsman trained
Hawkeye. Is Hawkeye
sus? Throwing it on the list
there. I don't believe it. I'm just,
all right, swordsman is, all right, the fucking sus ass stepdad, or yeah, the stepdad, clearly
the guy on the list. But you know what? I'm just going to put it in parentheses, Hawkeye,
question mark. Questionable. Yeah. He's like, he gets the cue next to him. Yeah. It's like,
so maybe like the sword, like, I don't know. I feel like he is such an obvious- People were
tweeting us, right? And saying that Jack is in in the comics the swordsman who trained hawkeye
yeah and then i think this might end up bringing the swordsman a little bit to the light you might
go from like a you know definite evil character maybe a little gray area right because it's like
it's so obvious like swords are everywhere the guy was killed with the sword blah blah blah it
seems a little crazy so i think like hawkeye might just get a little mucked up too it's like swords are everywhere the guy was killed with the sword blah blah blah it seems a little crazy so i think like hawkeye might just get a little mucked up too it's like let's fucking call
hawkeye what is he was the ronin he murdered a bunch of people they might have been bad there's
a lot of gray area in this whole show hawkeye echo maybe swordsman hawkeye killed that girl's father
you know like we saw that that was a good dude like a good guy too yeah he's i fucking love that
guy i didn't really get the i was like when i when i saw like he was in there i was a good dude like a good guy too yeah he's i fucking love that guy i didn't
really get the i was like when i when i saw like he was in there i was like come on like let's
escape he's like no i'm cooked i'm done like don't even bother i was like man i was really hoping you
were gonna make it so um number three swordsman hawkeye kind of on the list i'm done putting like
good people on the sus list because ever since i did that to a dog that got killed um
number two on the sus list she doesn't even appear in the episode but it's the mom fucking yeah we're
going on the computer she keeps getting locked out every single time i feel like the mom is i'm
telling i think the mom is gonna end up being the one that killed that sus bitch uh armand or
whatever his name is uh i think so too you think so she was at least in on it because when
they showed like the previously on hawkeye for this they showed like kate going to her mom again
and saying everything that she saw and just the way vera formiga or whatever her name is reacted
to it made it sound like like yeah i know all this why are you telling me i'm in on it
i'm murder looking at my hands i got the blood still on my hands. So the
mom, she does not
move on the C word watch at all.
Stays the same. However,
moves up is number two on the
list. Number one, we're not
even going to play games. We're not going to kid around. We're not
going to do anything crazy. It's fucking uncle.
It's uncle Kingpin. It's I mean
that hand. All I saw was the hand
and a couple of references about him. But based on what we know, I think that's going to be Kingpin. I mean, that hand. All I saw was the hand and a couple of references about him.
But based on what we know, I think that's going to be Kingpin.
I cannot have anyone else higher on the sus list than the potential head of an underground fucking criminal operation.
Underworld criminal operation.
Organized crime.
I got to throw the motherfucking Kingpin on there, number one.
And we're just going to say Uncle Kingpin, right?
Like, we're rolling with the Kingpin here.
Yeah, that's uncle kingpin by the way shout out into the spiderverse
came out three years ago this week yesterday as we're recording this it'll be two days ago on
release day that is my favorite adaptation of kingpin as well i love the way they drew him in
that movie i love the way they used him the whole thing with his family how at the end they show like
his family seeing you know him about to beat spider-man again so all that i mean my favorite
line in that movie the funniest to me is from kingpin in the beginning when miles is escaping
right after he kills the first peter parker and he just hears a noise and he looks up and goes
kill that guy yeah that's so good that's what i would do if i was a fucking king man he's really
kill that guy kill that guy that's all i'd have was a fucking Kingman. Just be like, kill that guy, kill that guy.
That's all I'd have to say.
Dead.
Every time, the way he delivers it, kill that guy.
Yeah, it's a great sus list.
And now let's do pretty much the opposite of the sus list.
The most delightful, wonderful Christmas time list we could ask for.
The top three Christmas movies from each of us.
The Merry List, I guess we could call it.
Yeah, the Merry List.
That's a good one, yeah.
I have three that I've always said are perfect,
and I can pretty much switch them in order by the day,
but I've written them down in order.
Do you want to go like three, three, two, two, one, one?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm sure there might be some bleeding over.
I think there's going to be.
I think there is going to be.
I think we're going to have at least two movies that are the same on our list and the reason because i told you okay let's do
like a couple different things here in terms of chris's stuff and the reason i chose movies this
week is because i know uh barstool i i imagine it's jeff i imagine kb and nick they did the
troll list this week and they got so many people were they the top 10 right chris's movies they
had like friends text you about those by the way
i had like one of them last year i haven't had anything since i had a friend texting about that
one i was like come on man it's just bofa at the bottom it's just generated by bofa
at this point too if i see lists i and now it's the point where i don't trust any list i don't
trust one if it's by like espn and it's a cop like i'm like this is a fucking troll but i'm also so far out of the loop on so many things
pop culture now just being old that i'm like shit people might fucking think home alone three is
great now i don't fucking know i think you're up with it like i think the prequels like the prequels
yeah i and everyone tells me the prequels are good i'm like shit maybe i'm no it's the children
that i actually did kind of grow up with home alone 3 like i had the home alone vhs box set was home alone 1 2 and 3 and i loved home
alone 3 growing up like i really enjoyed it i haven't seen it since i was probably six years
old i think if i watched it now i'd probably find it to be a piece of shit like everyone says it is
but i did love it as a kid yeah and i'm fully prepared to be like the things I thought were like the
ruination,
ruination of Western civilization.
Basically people like,
no,
that like was my childhood growing up and nostalgia is a powerful
motherfucking drug.
So I can't even like argue with it.
So I'll be interested to see how this all plays out.
Cause there are some Christmas movies that are absolutely classic.
And there's also ones that might be a little overrated.
So this should be interesting here.
So my three,
I think might be your number one and it's Die Hard.
Okay.
So I didn't know if, how we were classifying that.
This is the trick here.
Die Hard is my favorite movie.
And it's not like, I'm not just saying it as like a joke or something.
It's legitimately my favorite movie.
I think it's the perfect movie.
I think it has the comedic elements.
It has the action.
It has like the underdog story. It has the action. It has the underdog
story. It has the Christmas. It touches
it all. I didn't even put it on the list because it's my
favorite movie. So saying it's my favorite Christmas
movie is almost repetitive.
But having number three,
little sus, little sus. Having it on any list
number three is sus in my mind. I could have put it
number one. I honestly could
have put it number one. I was like, I think
we would have listeners
would what the vlog would stop the podcast and then like jump off a bridge if they had to hear
another diehard debate so i didn't even throw it on i was like we'll disagree it's the best movie
of all time and we move on from there but number three okay fair enough little sus my number three
which could be high which might be higher for you because i think the when it came out might
affect it probably when you were younger i have alpha number three all right i have a number two perfect yeah okay kind of give a
general discussion about this together but yeah perfect christmas movie in my mind yep perfect
like modern christmas movie uh the movies that made us they did like a um they did a good breakdown
of it and how it was our fucking guy uh favro who i didn't realize had done it at the time
until i saw that thing how they wanted to make like one of those like movies that you watch
every single christmas season which i hope the fox family did growing up i know the cleanse
everyone yeah and we would actually do it uh my brother and sister who were younger than me they
would sleep in my room christmas eve would usually watch a movie um usually probably my number one on
the list and you just kind of like or you just you know rattle around the the handful and i think elf is now that
for like the next generation i also had a shout out i blogged this a few weeks ago uh will ferrell
turned down 29 million dollars to do elf 2 because he thought the script was a fucking abomination to
the lord and i just want to log i read that i wanted to say how much i
appreciated that because turning down 20 like 29 000 for something would be like crazy turn on 29
million to turn it down because you want to do the right thing i loved anchorman anchorman too
i despised i have only watched it once maybe i like it more if this came out but it like i've
never watched again i don't even think about it but
It does take that little bit of bloom
Off of it right oh yeah
Think about the hangover like if they just made
One hangover movie like that movie
Would be like you know
An iconic like it was kind of
At the time it was like oh my god funniest
Movie ever and then they made the two
Sequels now people don't even really bring it up
Anymore yep 100% with you so i like it would have taken the shine off of elf if i had seen you see
like the little brother you know what he doesn't too or yeah something like that but it's the
perfect happy ending too like you want just like to think like oh half perfect happy ending and
then they made the maybe sequel stepbrothers in transpine i had to shut up that
that is if you ever read that you got to go to the blog or just search it uh does my theory that
elf is the prequel to step brothers makes too much sense an investigation a plus plus plus plus blog
that is like that's throwback barstool right there too and it's it it kind of like holds water i can't
really put any it was on the news yeah Yeah, it was on the fucking news.
I'd say, oh, man, I fucking love Trent.
I miss that guy so much.
I truly do.
So I got to give him a big old hug next time I see him.
I will say this, though, and I don't know if you agree or disagree.
The reason it's three on my list, Elf, I do not like the last quarter.
I don't like anything with the Central park rangers i think it's a
little corny they're all singing i think it like if you watch it i think it's like i i just turn
it off once that comes on like all right we're gonna move to the next movie now it's very
cringy i don't know the whole beginning of the movie is definitely better it's yes the part
parts that get quoted it's the parts that get clipped and gift and put on twitter every year
like yeah
the beginning of the movie is is the best part of the movie there's scenes where he's like setting
up the santa's workshop preparing santa's arrival working with the manager like all of that that's
the funniest stuff easily and i think and this is you know that's just the way it is the fact that
it's still this high in my book despite it being like unwatchable for the last like 10 20 minutes or whatever is actually just shows how good that like first chunk of the
movie is um it's almost like i i say the same thing about wedding crashers once it gets to the
point where he breaks or you know rachel mcadams leaves him and he's down and well farrell's
awesome the whole farrell thing but like when it gets like a little too lovey-dovey i'm like all
right i'm done with wedding crashes we're gonna move on to the next movie i feel the same way in terms of alfred
this is gonna sound weird i actually have a movie i've always done that with and it's cone heads
have you seen cone heads before the movie jesus bob i haven't seen that since i was probably like
like your your age if not younger i think it's hysterical and i think everything on earth is so
funny and then they eventually go off to like their planet or whatever and they have to go through like a maze with a minotaur and fight
that and all of that i'm like okay i'm fucking checked out all the laughs are gone i'm not
interested in the dramatic sequence before we move on from elf i want to shout out elf cereal by the
way i love elf cereal it's like a seasonal. It's basically like kicks flavored or kicks shaped.
Okay.
Things.
Maple syrup flavored with lucky charms marshmallows.
I like that.
I like,
okay.
Really good.
Fuck.
You see it in the store.
If you're a basement listener,
you see elf cereal,
pull the trigger on it.
Try a box.
I want to say this.
I understand why they
did it i understand you know you packaging little circles you can say they're like christmas
ornaments i love that it's syrup flavored i have if someone at whoever is it you know who makes it
post kellogg's um let me look it up here i forget who made it general mills general mills yeah
if someone from general mills who's listening to the podcast can let me know if they tried this, you had to at least have tried to do it with spaghetti.
Exactly.
Because that would have been good, but I imagine it would just break into crumbles.
That would be so gross.
I don't want the actual spaghetti consistency.
I want the shape, though.
It could be hard.
I don't mind if it's like a cereal-like consistency.
But if you had done spaghetti shape, it would have made it absolutely fucking perfect because when you said syrup i'm like oh that's just like yeah
sugar syrup have sugar in it so and i gotta get the stews for uh cookie milk cooking apparently
apparently was 99 cents at somebody i saw that i'm guessing that those milks they're like all
right these are about to go bad soon we gotta get these off the shelves and get them for anyone
that's in the tri-state area you know connecticut jersey or new york
um at least long island you got to get the stew leonards the christmas cookie milk people always
ask what is that do you just dip your christmas cookies in it no it tastes like sugar cookies
and it is fucking awesome i had someone hit me up and said they their dad threw it out because
they thought it was so bad for you because it's just like sugar but it is fucking delicious and
it's every year they do a different bottle it's a collector's bottle and it
only is from thanksgiving to christmas so there's a very short time frame here so check it out do
you keep your bottles do you keep the collectible bottles we sure do and uh my wife makes elderberries
for the kids like it's like a thing to kind of get their uh like immunity up it's like you know
like almost like a medicine right and she does it in the old bottles so we still have last year we're about to transition to this year's i love it all right
what is your number two my number two was elf okay my number two is christmas vacation is this
did this miss the bob fox list yeah i'm not i'm not a christmas vacation guy never been a national
lampoon guy to be really at all wow okay so i know that's controversial so i i think last year maybe the
year before on twitter um there was like the started bubbling the anti-christmas vacation
people and it's one of those things that you're just like not every this isn't universally beloved
it just kind of blows your mind it's the first time you find out someone doesn't like bacon or
someone doesn't like you know whatever your favorite thing is and i I was like, it's like you have to grow physically angry.
Then you start thinking, is it a troll job?
You just pump the brakes.
And at this point, I've been on Twitter so long.
I just go out.
Some people don't like the same shit I did.
I again, if it's number two on my list, it's fucking there with an absolute bullet.
I, you know, the terms of the quotes, the stuff I will say, like, it does.
I imagine to like people that didn't grow up in that time it
probably ages a little poorly compared to like an elf that was you know more closer to now um but
again clark griswold is an all-time great dad chevy chase sounds like he's kind of like a dickhead in
real life which kind of makes kind of hurts the cause but i grew up with national lampoons um
this is my favorite national lampoons as as well. It goes this, followed by the
original Vacation, followed by, I guess, Vegas Vacation. European Vacation was kind of weird,
and I didn't get into any of the newer ones. But I mean, just in all time, I think I probably did
a few blogs about the Christmas Vacation, the Griswolds, all that stuff. So an absolute lock
in my house. The house getting the uh the lights
going crazy fucking just so many great things and bob fox is like yep doesn't really you know what
i just never grew up with it i don't even know if i've ever seen the full movie start to finish
so it was one of those things where like it just kind of hit missed the mark i guess so you know
what i'm not gonna blame you i'm blaming your I'm blaming your brother. That's your brother's fault right there.
I mean, he made this beautiful nerd we know and love today,
but he didn't give him the right Christmas time.
I mean, I made sure my younger siblings were watching it growing up.
This was one of the ones that was in the rotation.
And again, young kid like me growing up,
and you get the girl from the lingerie store,
and you see her like that even gives you like whoa
a little bit of Christmas joy coming
out it gets you excited so it touches all the
bases from when you're young
to when you're old and everywhere in between
so Christmas Vacation 2 which I'm guessing
we both have the same number one
should we say it on three?
yeah one two
three Home Alone
hell yeah
that would have been
fucked up if we had two different movies because i don't know what else i know if i would have
been like fucking the polar express
no home alone is the goat come on pesci and home alone one of the greatest comedic performances
of all time kevin mccallister uh i mean the perfect
shithead kid that you want to root for anyway even though he is a bit of a shithead in that movie
like the family all family mother the worst set of people you've ever seen in your life right like
they're so mean to that kid like it has the rewatch ability where you can get on stuff like
that uncle frank i saw joey melanero just blog the thing about Uncle Frank being an absolute piece of shit.
It was like, and again,
old person like me, 1990 is when the original came out. I remember,
I was old enough to remember at that point,
I think I was eight years old, like that movie
was
smash upon smash upon smash.
It was such a fucking, like, it was an
event when it came out and it just absolutely
crushed. Another movies that made us, that's awesome, right? A great one where you realize like they had to build the such a fucking like it was an event when it came out and it just absolutely crushed another movies
that made us that's awesome right a great one where you realize like they had to build the
house like separately they didn't shoot it inside the house you're like what it was in a gym in like
a chicago gym or something like that completely blows your mind and then when two came out this
kind of goes back it was i think it was this and ace ventura 2 just broke my heart because i love those two movies and the seat only come along too i i like it but i love the first one i like the
second i i i don't think i'm a good sequel guy there's very few sequels that i watch and i
absolutely i don't love die hard 2 i love die hard 3 but i don't love die hard 2 maybe it's
just something about the continuity where you have to like make the original characters maybe
the relationships die hard 3 technically wasn't a sequel when it was first written you know it was a completely
different movie exactly and maybe that's why i liked it so much is that it it's like they they
kind of like wedge die hard into another movie um but i mean i like it i i think people that and
again people that say two is better than one i'm like are you out of your fucking no i i don't get
that at all like i don't think two is anywhere near better than one or even close to as good as one but i think
two is a very enjoyable movie there's a lot of funny things in two oh yeah i think our uh home
alone 2 is probably one of the better sequels it's just as like a young kid and then i'm like
going to see it and i'm like oh man and it's like it just feels like they took the first movie and
they reheated it right it feels a little bit like leftovers which again definitely if you don't laugh during all those booby traps you get to see some of the booby
traps come back in a different form with the bar with the paint cans and stuff like that
talk boy that he had and too i always wanted one of those i had one of those as a kid my parents
got me one and i have a friend who used to be like oh that's how i know you were spoiled can
you talk boy i'm like i don't know it was one of my christmas gifts that year like it's not it
wasn't it wasn't it was like groundbreaking like, I don't know. It was one of my Christmas gifts that year. Like it's not, it wasn't, it wasn't, it was like groundbreaking
technology, but it wasn't like I got a fucking, you know, 50 inch TV for my, for Christmas.
It was a tape recorder with like, they slapped the Home Alone logo on and, you know,
raised the price like 50 bucks. Yeah. Home Alone. That's the goat, ladies and gentlemen,
there's nothing better than that. I mean, the only thing that I could take a point away from Home Alone on is that I always have to turn away when I see the tarantula.
I really hate that.
And, oh, my God, the nail into the foot every time is like, I mean, Quiet Place just stole that shit.
I cannot.
When I put up the blog about the Airbnb for $25, I said I could hear it in the gift of the fucking foot going through the nail.
The nail going through the foot.
I go, oh, it just – I turn away whenever that comes on,
and I like I'll try to make it so I can't hear it
because just hearing it fucking gives me the skivvies.
But Angels with Filthy Souls, I mean, that movie is as close to as perfect a movie,
let alone a Christmas movie, as you can get because it hits all the spots,
the booby traps, peshy fucking brushes.
The score, John Williams. Yes, the score is phenomenal. Ten out of ten, yeah. movie as you can get because it hits all the spots in the booby traps passion for john williams yes
the score is phenomenal 10 out of 10 yeah and marv is even like uh daniel stern is an awesome like
they just nail it they they're such different physically um old man marley and like kind of
the redemption i will say like old man marley take an advice from like an eight-year-old it's like if
my fucking if someone like was like not talking to their family and then sienna's like you should talk to your family i'll be like dude
you needed a fucking seven-year-old kid and i know it's coming from a different perspective
but jesus christ man yeah um also receiving votes here all right so give me like a like was this
even close to getting on your list here grinch which one okay so that's a fuck i didn't
think about that i'm thinking animated because i'm old are you a jim carrey guy i always love
the jim carrey one yes okay so i i was always i always run with the animated one just because
that was my like go-to as a kid yeah i mean i like the animated one too i would always watch
both but like i loved the jim carrey one as a kid the cute dog in it cindy luhu who's grown up to be a fucking punk rock like
rock star has she really oh yeah oh jesus um christmas story love christmas story if die
hard if you said die hard it's not a christmas movie robbie christmas story would probably be
my number three have to watch it every year on christmas day my brother owns the uh he has the
lamp he puts it in his window every year he is the replica it's i mean as good as it gets all right i hate to do this this is fucked up doing it after the
case we'll get get the fucking uh reopening here your brother's on the sus list now if he's that
much of a diehard of christmas story if you told me your brother's not a big christmas movie guy
i'd be like all right you know it's not for everyone he's that much of a fan he had the
lamp but he couldn't just show you national lampoons once.
I don't think he liked national lampoons.
Apparently not.
Which makes it even more sus Robbie.
I don't trust anyone that doesn't like it.
I told you.
I'm going to text him after the podcast and ask him if he liked it.
Should we tease what we're going to,
I don't know if this rewatch is going to happen.
Oh,
no,
we,
we,
we,
we,
we got to tease it.
Cause it's on my like honorable mention list.
Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Um, I will say Christmas story, the 24 hour, we we we gotta tease it because it's on my like honorable mention list okay okay fair enough um
i will say christmas story the 24-hour like marathon it's like the greatest marketing
classic yeah and then everyone has to give their opinions on it and stuff like that i think it's a
good movie i like it um like you said the pink bunny the lamp you have your moments shoot your
kid has the quotes um i never like really knew of it until later in my childhood.
And I don't know.
I like it.
I don't like it. It would,
it was receiving votes,
Charlie Brown,
Christmas.
It's my question.
I feel like Charlie Browns are like,
everyone likes the idea of them more than they actually like watching them.
Right.
Oh,
I like watching them.
You like watching them.
Yeah.
We used to have,
my mom made Charlie Brown cutouts for our window every year.
She would make the little tree.
I think Charlie Brown Christmas is the best of all the Charlie Browns.
I think, like, the Great Pumpkin is not as good as the –
I did that poor-ass tree.
I'm like, I think I see my little myself in Charlie Brown.
I'm bald.
I have a fucking egg egg.
I always mess up when I'm supposed to do stuff.
Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer?
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Love how much of an asshole Rudolph's dad is.
It makes me laugh every single time I see it.
Uh,
I even like the,
uh,
straight to VHS sequel.
It was like Rudolph and the Island of misfit toys.
Yes.
Yup.
Yup.
The misfit toys are awesome too.
I love quarter of the misfit toys.
Santa Claus,
Tim Allen,
I think is an under,
like not underrated,
but I feel like people like that's just a good fucking like funny movie
it's well done um i'm just a big fan of the santa claus i probably haven't watched it in years too
i gotta rewatch i haven't seen that one in years but i liked it yeah and this is my last one that
i have on the list here uh frosty the snowman i'm gonna say die hard is more of a christmas
movie than frosty like there's like like santa comes in it but die hard like it's consistently christmas christ
christmas time the reason this is happening because of christmas there's barely any christmas
for like 90 of frosty the snowman frosty gets weird at the end too where he melts and all that
shit yeah i don't like frost that fucked me up man that i can see that greenhouse in my head and
it's like a house of horrors i didn't like like that. I imagine you probably have some other ones.
Nightmare Before Christmas, Christmas movie, Halloween movie, Thanksgiving movie.
I've always thought more of a Christmas movie because it ends on the Christmas note.
It's a wonderful life ends on Christmas, so it's a Christmas movie.
So I've always viewed it like that.
I've never been the biggest Nightmare Before Christmas guy because I didn't see that until I was pretty older as well.
I didn't see that until I was like 14, I well i didn't see that till i was like 14 i feel like um a couple on my list bad santa is the one that i actually kicked off the season with um i love that santa i think it's one of the funniest
movies out there i think thurman merman is one of the funniest characters constantly asking billy
billy bob if he could fix him a sandwich. Can I fix you a sandwich? Can I fix you sandwiches?
Another one that I had on here that some people will say,
Robbie, this isn't a Christmas movie.
Stop being an asshole.
I'm going to say it is a Christmas movie, especially in the basement,
and we are going to be doing a commentary on this one with my brother.
It might get contentious about the whole National Lampoon thing,
but Batman Returns with Michael Keaton. Now, there is some Christmastime stuff in this movie. contentious about the whole national lampoon thing but uh batman returns with michael keaton
now there is some christmas time stuff in this movie you know gotham city is doing the tree
lighting ceremony and everything so i i would call this a christmas movie it's snowing the whole time
i mean frosty it's snowing that's pretty much how much that's a christmas movie and i'm excited to
do the commentary because the batman 89 commentary we did was a lot of fun that's on the youtube
channel you can find that now yep and i'll tell you right now your brother coming into the basement
he better be coming with his dukes up i don't say i'm an old man saying put your dukes up put
your dukes up we're gonna be debating some christmas talk uh but i mean shit like we're
in the basement right now like anything goes in the fucking basement so die hard christmas movie
this is a you know batman 2 christmas movie. We're in the basement. Anything fucking
goes down here. We're not on Twitter. We're not
debating with our parents at the
fucking Thanksgiving table.
This is in the basement, so anything goes,
especially anything with a little bit of nerd
comic culture to it. Also, a
recommendation for everyone out there.
This is a weird one, and a lot of people haven't
seen it. Some people have seen it. It's called
Robbie the Reindeer. R-O-B-B-I-E, just like I spell my name.
Ben Stiller does the voice, and his girlfriend is Britney Spears.
She does the voice of another reindeer.
They did like a trilogy.
It's like three little short movies for TV, like three TV movies.
They're all like half an hour long, I think.
I watched it every year growing up.
I loved Robbie the Reindeer.
I was all about it, obviously, because he had my name and stuff but i was all it's like kind of
that stop motion rankin and bass style they try to achieve it it's really enjoyable which by the
way they do talk about the stop motion for the elf as well where they that's why they had it in
there because it does feel like that and if it was bby would you have been like fuck this reindeer
i'm out and i feel like having your name in there yeah i it does feel like that. And if it was BBY, would you have been like, fuck this reindeer?
I'm out.
And I feel like having your name in there.
Yeah.
I feel like that does that a lot.
And we'll just throw these out.
These older ones,
Miracle on 34th street,
wonderful life.
I just,
I don't fuck with old movies.
I just never have,
even when I was young and these are younger or these, I probably have never even watched them like end to end.
I might like them.
But even like the original Christmas Carol Scrooge I've never seen all I don't think I've seen it
either to be honest yeah so I know people are going to get on Muppets Christmas Carol Muppets
Christmas Carol another one Muppets Christmas is a different one as well which is great
yep yep so there's a there's a bunch here Polar express is kind of a newer one that's kind of i
feel like the next wave of kids is that's going to be one of the ones they grew up with but
that that shit just was not from jingle all the way gotta shout out jingle all the way
do you consider gremlins a christmas movie you know what i was thinking about it and i said to
my girlfriend months ago like oh have you ever seen gremlin she said no i said oh we should
watch that and then I was like,
eh,
let's wait till Christmas.
Yes.
So I don't know what that says about it.
Maybe I do just subconsciously.
I was like,
ah,
let's wait till Christmas just because it,
it has Christmas vibes throughout it.
Like I would say,
yeah,
Chris gremlin scared the shit out of me as a kid gremlins.
And even another Christmas movie,
um,
this is going to sound so fucked up,
but the Mickey mouse Christmas Carol,
Jacob Marley,
when Goofy's Jacob Marley scared the piss out of me,
scared the ever living,
as well as the ghost of Christmas,
I believe future both scared the shit out of me as like,
you know,
a very young kid,
but a kid nonetheless,
it scared the absolute crap out of me.
So in the YouTube comments,
I want to see everyone's top three Christmas movies,
comment below,
throw diehard in there, throw diehard, not in there. If you want to do it's top three Christmas movies. Comment below. Throw Die Hard in there.
Throw Die Hard not in there. If you want to do it,
remember. If it's got Christmas vibes,
throw it in there. Yes, yes. If just
a word Santa or a Santa hat can
be seen, fucking throw it in. Who's going to
tell you not? It's a free-for-all down there.
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