My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 176 - ‘SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME’ RECAP/REVIEW WITH CLEM

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

Robbie and Clem break down and discuss the movie event of the year, ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com HelloFresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/14robbie and use promo code 14robbie for 14 FREE MEALS! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, yeah, yeah Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3C and Barstool Sports and the Spider-Man No Way Home edition of My Mom's Basement. It feels good to say that. We finally made it. We're here. I saw the movie. There was a brief moment in time,

like a 12-hour span, where I thought, am I not going to see this movie? I texted Clem. I said, you might have to record My Mom's Basement with Jeff D. Lowe or something. Yeah, you threw that one out. It's like, hey, this movie we've been talking about for what seems like forever now, you're going to have to just record it with Jeff for the first time, and I go, Robbie,

I love Jeff. He's a die hard, but people are going to have to just record it with Jeff for the first time. And I go, Robbie, I love Jeff. He's a diehard, but people are going to still need the basement boys getting their thoughts in and the weird kind of nonsense we ramble about. We're going to have to get this out ourselves at some point. And you were late with quite a dilemma, quite a dilemma, young Robert,

quite a dilemma. We talked about it a little bit on our Hawkeye recap last week. If you don't listen to that, if you don't listen to Hawkeye, if you don't watch Hawkeye, you should be watching that. But we talked about me testing positive for COVID the night before No Way Home premieres. I have my tickets. You know, they were so hard to get when they went on sale. Everyone talking about the ticket sales, whatever.

I get them through Jeff D'Lo. I'm so excited to see it. And the day after Rough and Rowdydy December 11th, I'll say, I felt like I had a cold. I was like, I kind of runny nose, woke up feeling groggy. It's like, this is weird cold. Obviously in these COVID times, you think immediately, should I get tested for COVID? So I thought that went and got tested on Monday. It was negative. So it was like, oh, thank God I didn't have to miss Spider-Man. I think I actually said that to multiple people. Like my worst fear was having to miss Spider-Man opening weekend. And then I kept feeling, uh,

pretty much the same way. Kind of like I had a cold little sniffles and I just took a test for shits and giggles on Wednesday night, just cause I had a bunch of at-home tests lying around. I said, let me learn how to use one of these before the holidays wound up coming up positive, took another one cause I was in shock i was in disbelief and that was positive as well so it was like ah fuck what am i gonna do as i mentioned on the hawkeye recap we did our what we thought was going to be our worst enemy this movie coming out early internationally wound up being my best friend because it allowed for some bootlegs to hit the internet and listen kevin feige i'm sorry

we know you listen but i did watch a bootleg of this movie three times over the past three nights what a film what a film i loved it well first off let me just say as someone who i believe was kind of shamed online on twitter maybe even on this podcast for the people that listen to the spider man trailer recap we had once upon a time, because I decided to hop right in, get all my trailer back when it was shot off of like, it was like someone's phone, which was recorded then off of someone else's phone. It was like three phones. It was phone-ception.

I didn't shame you because I watched that one too. Yeah. So, again, as I said in that podcast, some would say the people that watch the bootlegs are the biggest of fans because they don't want to wait any longer and they just want to get to the theater. But you threw it out to me. You're like, Clem, what do I do? Do I watch the bootleg or do I see this in the theater? And my exact words were, with great power comes great responsibility.

You have a job. You have an oath you took for the basement listeners here that we will have this thing up and ready. I'm sure people are pissed it's not even it took till monday to get it out but hey it's like everyone has to see the movie i think what thursday it came out in the u.s right thursday afternoon so hopefully you know we got to give everyone the weekend at least we understand some people if you got hey if you're a waiter or a waitress or something out there you got to work the weekends we tried to give everyone the proper amount of time to see the movie like i said i got to see it three times because of this bootleg

the first night and i posted like the toby mcguire meme where he puts on his glasses in the first one the first bootleg i watched was pretty blurry it was like watching porn scrambled in the 90s what i would imagine that was like because i wasn't alive yet bastard you have it so good but the the next bootleg i got that i watched the last two nights hd pretty crystal clear got to see everything got to appreciate it a lot more it's a movie that i really enjoyed i wish i got the opening night experience for but i'm glad i watched it because so many things were trending on twitter i saw things on the youtube home page i actually didn't get anything spoiled for me and i'm happy about that that me as well i somehow went didn't get it spoiled at all whether it's you know some dickhead

who will tweet at you or something like that or just like you said i'm fucking like the youtube stuff i mean we are there's no places on the home pages like people were saying that too in the recommendeds and i don't get me wrong when i say i got nothing spoiled for me i think we all knew like the big surprises that were coming in this movie but out of actual like things that were in the movie screenshots confirmed things i was lucky enough to go into this completely unspoiled and i felt so good about it and there were certain things that i was glad i was at home for because like i texted you i stood up on my couch and I was like, what the fuck? Are you serious? This is crazy. Robbie became like a straight up, like a super fan. He became Jersey Jerry, uh, dirt after a skid. There's no dishes, nothing. Which we'll get to it a little bit, but I also had a dark

thought as I was in the movie theater and I hear like people hacking up a lung behind me and I'm a mask on and I'm like, you know, sneaking it up to get some popcorn spider-man is going to fuck up more people in the next month than all his villains combined basically he's like he's the super spreader spider it's it's that fucked up that they had to release like the biggest blockbuster since basically endgame comes out right as this spike literally the opening weekend numbers just came through. The third all-time. Crazy numbers. And the fact that, you know, we talked about it when Endgame and Avatar were like one and two all-time worldwide.

We said, oh my God, Zoe Saldana, she's in both of them. Now you look at the three biggest opening weekends ever. Endgame, Infinity War, No Way Home. Tom Holland is Spider-Man in all three. It's pretty fucking impressive. Holland's the fucking king, man. And he did nothing to make us not think that after this movie. By the way, it's crazy, too.

I was thinking about it. Sony, they just keep cranking these motherfuckers out. Like, you know, like, obviously, Endgame, you have to get a whole, like, ensemble cast together. But they're just like, let's keep milking that spider until there's no more spider milk left. Kevin Feige came out and said, I think today or yesterday as we're recording this, that Spider-Man 4 is in development. And he said this is because, he goes, we don't want to give everyone the separation anxiety they had between Far From Home and No Way Home. And part of me was like, listen, we were, you know, we really wanted to see this. We were anticipating it. We couldn't wait.

It didn't feel like the last movie was fucking 10 years ago it's pretty recently my my wife goes oh did they have like in any of the movies did they have like a post end game like oh iron man's gone i was like yeah i was like spider-man was like the first movie that had it i'm like they've basically it's been like i think there might be more spider-man than like mcu movies since endgame came out just the way that the crazy shit has happened with COVID. But those motherfuckers are just cashing in on the MCU as much as they can. And don't get me wrong. I love it.

I love it. Keep cranking out the Spidey content. It's amazing. As long as it's MCU Spidey content, good. Don't give us that Venom-level Spider-Man content. Listen, I'm going to say right now, spoilers for this whole podcast, the rest of the podcast. Spoilers. If you don't want to know what happens in Spider-Man, you shouldn't be listening to this podcast. We're going to go through it beat by beat.

We're going to talk about it. But you say, don't give us that Sony stuff after this movie. I'm like, fuck it. Try Andrew Garfield again. Let's see. Let's give him a shot because, oh, my God. Talk about a guy who knocked his role out of the park. Like, we'll get to the entire premise of it,

but I've seen amazing Spider-Man three and Spider-Man four trending worldwide all day because people want Toby and Andrew back in those universes. Oh yeah. I mean, but the thing is I still need to have, oh yeah, we need that man needs to be there. He needs to be on set. Like we're not just letting them go on their own. Cause poor Andrew Garfield, that's all I could think of during this movie. I'm like, this guy really got the raw end of the deal because toby's were good and i mean they they definitely had like you know they kind of spiked it will be

at least got two like iconic ones before the ending and a lot of the things that i didn't like about this movie you know some of the parts of it i think were from were amazing spider-man sides of the equation of all this but yeah i mean keep keep it coming yeah for sure sony keep fucking doing your thing at this point you got the hat man he's happy to do with you you're like you're part of the whiteboard now you are literally on the white big part of the whiteboard too like this is as big as stakes get and it's amazing and fascinating that by the end of the movie we're probably going to go back to a spider-man whose stakes are not as big as they were in this movie it's it's what a journey it's been in these three movies john watts the first director to do three uh movies or not the first to do three but the

first to do a full trilogy he had control of all three of these and he knocked all three out of the park like it's a three for three trilogy he really crushed it he like reverse engineered it and that is just me saying that just so i sound smart but i mean it really is it's a reverse engine like you realize by the end of the third movie that you were watching an origin story and you're like what there it is the youtube fucking uh reaction of our heads exploding live on the show. Subscribe on the YouTube. I thought I watched his fucking origin in the first movie, and they said, no, no, no. This was all his origin. Like, the next trilogy is the Spider-Man that you know and love. Like, what?

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reveals his identity to the world he's outside madison square garden what i didn't realize until i watched i think it was like the new rock stars breakdown of the movie they actually reshot this i figured they probably shot the first scene of this movie at the end of the last movie but they added mj wearing her black dahlia necklace from old one. Just a little detail that they threw into this scene. And she winds up, I didn't realize this. I put it in my head. She's wearing it in the final scene of the movie as well. So I think that black Dahlia necklace, like she remembers it for some reason.

It's going to be a thread in the movies. He picks up MJ when everyone's crowding around her. Like, are you Spider-Man's girlfriend? Are you Spider-Man's girlfriend? He swings back home, happy in May or in the midst of breaking up unfortunate for a guy happy he seemed really uh no pun intended happy in that relationship he's like it could have been more fun by the way i can't stop staring it looks like your spider-man is picking your nose it's looked like that the entire time if you're not watching the youtubes you're fucking up robbie made an incredible uh

what is this considered? Like a banner? Yeah. You have to at least go on the YouTube and do that. And while you're here, subscribe. I'm sitting in the exact spot where our Spider-Men are pointing at each other. The Spider-Men are mean. It was so distracting.

I was just like, Spider-Man's picking Clem's nose right now. But they have a funny miscommunication in the apartment where it looks like they walk in on, like, I don't know, some kind of adolescent, like, sex going on. They're like, we didn't see anything. We didn't see anything because he's taking the spider suit off. And they realize the cops are outside. They have to break the news to May and Happy. What's going on?

And Stark Industries under investigation because of Mysterio, because the whole controversy, because they used the Stark Industries drones. Protesters we see throw green paint on Peter Parker like they threw blood on Big Cat at the hot dog eating contest. Peter, Ned, MJ, they're brought in for questioning. One of my favorite little details is like throughout the comics, throughout the movies, the women in Spider-Man's life seem to like

always know better in a weird way, like MJ and May may and when they both look at him at the same time they're like don't say anything without a lawyer i was like yeah that's such classic spider-man and uh just a cool opening to this movie it was quick them getting through the mysterio stuff but we talked about this on lights camera barstool i was on that today and uh you kind of need it to get through this stuff quick it's a long movie and you it to get through this stuff quick. It's a long movie and you want to get to the chunk of it as fast as you can. Yeah, I think some people might have been upset about maybe the pacing or just the way it was all put together. But again, it was important that the way you leave off in that movie where he's basically getting doxxed, right, and becomes the most famous person in the world, which is crazy to think about. But post-Avengers, obviously, Tony's dead.

Cap is, we don't know where Cap is he's on that moon base let's be honest we actually know where he is so and then it's like you know whenever you find out who spider-man is and it's in a murder accusation as well like the world liked this new mysterio guy they were like this new mysterio guy's the new iron man and then apparently spider-man killed him yep and the whole stuff with the stark technology i mean it's the asses are in the jackpot there it's no bueno it also kind of fucked me up man because we're in a world where deep fakes or the way you cut something up and edit it you can you know and we have the technology already i can't even think about what to be like in five ten years

and the world's gonna be more fucked up and politicized than it is now like it's it's just horrifying so that was like the real world coming into my life as I was in a comic book movie. But then again, you're able to just fucking admire the fun stuff. There has to be one swing montage in every, it got it out of the way early. I appreciated that,

but there needs to be, they went into the subways. We've never seen that before. That was kind of a cool scene. And I liked the little nod to homecoming when Peter puts on the, I survived my trip to nyc shirt and in this movie like it's not big on him like peter parker is kind of like a bigger dude yeah when he uh when he was in his underwear i'm like look at pete he's got a little body

that's how you get a lovely litty because he's saying die you gotta work out a little so you care about yourself so shout out to tom holland there for fucking putting that spider bot together and it was cool just seeing like mj and you know aunt may interact and they have that cool like you know girls meeting each other mom and the girlfriend interacting for the first time and they like each other that was great and the whole like frantic pace where it's like you just got doxxed happy just broke up with aunt may and there's fucking helicopters flying outside your house like you fucking feel the anxiety like building one shot too it was like a two minute one shot which is like super impressive by the actors as well because there's a lot of dialogue there's a

lot of back and forth a lot of um coordination on where they got to go throughout the apartment it was like a very good scene to open the movie i thought a lot of laughs in it when happy points to the screen he's like all right at least they used a good picture of me. It's him from iron man three with like, do you, do you think that Tony used to call happy said Hogan, whenever like a girl broke up with God, saying Hogan's out, like,

yeah, let's go on the yacht. And we're going to go to fucking like, you know, the Virgin islands or Maldives right now, just to like, make my guy happy. Turn it,

turn said hat Hogan back into happy. I just like to think of that little friendship they had back in the day cheeseburgers and fucking hanging out on yachts yeah and it's sad that happy is being under investigation for the missing stark technology but i think that'll all play into armor wars down the line as well um possibly even iron heart because there's a lot of m.i.t references in this and riri williams goes to m.i to MIT and that show is already confirmed it's Iron Man's alma mater um MIT huge winner in this movie huge yeah really they made it the most like Spider-Man wants MIT so bad you should want it too it's basically a fucking recruiting tool for MIT

that's what Harvard was when I was a kid like I didn't know what Harvard was I just knew it's like that's where all the smart people like you want to get to Harvard and then our guy fucking Riggs by the way Riggs is still the most underrated Harvard grad. Whenever I see Riggs in like, you know, four plays blowing up and the merch is moving, I'm like, ah, he's from Harvard. He's fucking, that's the reason he's killing it like that, right? If I went to Harvard, I'd be doing the same thing. I'd have the number one podcast in fucking all golf right now too.

I think he discovered Bob Fox, his greatest fucking asset to the company. He did. Coaching tree right here. In the first 10 minutes of this fucking movie, Matt Murdock shows up. Daredevil. Charlie Cox from the Daredevil show. And he's not in a Daredevil suit or anything. He's just Peter's lawyer, Matt Murdock for now.

And he tells him right away, he's like, these charges aren't going to hold up. Peter's delighted to hear that. He tells Happy, you're actually under investigation, so you should lawyer up. And then someone throws a brick through the window and it's like a protester he catches it and i love that peter was also like ready to catch it he sensed it with a little spider sense the peter tingle and he's like how did you do that i'm a really good lawyer unbelievable that this is just a footnote in the movie too like when you talk about the movie as a whole you almost forget like oh yeah and they fucking brought daredevil into the mcu like it's crazy i started daredevil i know the mcu um or the mmb listeners i almost said uh mcu for mmb

the mmb listeners always tell me listen you got to watch daredevil it's one of the best shows i can't believe you haven't watched it i've started it first few episodes pretty fucking sick uh that was so as someone that did go to a theater that was like it was like it wasn't like a cheer but it was like you heard people like like losing their breath because they're like we got our first reveal and again when you go back and you do like your top 10 moments of the movie you're like oh fuck daredevil was there like the first you know half of the or quarter of the movie at you're like, oh, fuck, Daredevil was there in the first quarter of the movie at that. It made me want to watch the show Daredevil. We've gotten the request a bunch of times.

You guys got to watch it. Just the way he's like, how did you catch that? He's like, I'm a good lawyer. I'm like, okay, I know Daredevil is in good hands based on the feedback we've heard from other people and that two minutes he's on screen. I'm like, that guy's our Daredevil. We our daredevil just a foggy everything's good and uh trevor doyle hit me up on twitter i got three from a listener and he said with happy being in all this legal trouble and we hear daredevil's spider-man's lawyer do you think we're gonna get happy and she hulk who's a lawyer and And I'm like, yeah, that's a good theory. Shout out Trevor on

that theory right there. We'll see down the road. I like that. I like that a lot because I think she Hulk Jose said is a Bruce Banner's cousin too. So like, there's the connection, like Bruce Banner. Oh, my cousin's a great lawyer. I could hook you up with her. So like, I like that Trevor Doyle, um, may and Peter move into happy's apartment because they need a safer place to live. There is a Patrick Ewing, um, little thing thing there's also an islanders thing which i wanted to ignore but it looks like he's a next fan so bing bong happy hogan uh peter and mj facetime kind of a cute scene couple he's seen they go back to school all together there's protesters yelling at them someone says are you gonna have his spider babies at uh uh mj apparently

that is mj's realers and die as real life assistant that got to have that little like cameo she threw him in the movie um the teachers at the school made a hilarious spider-man shrine i loved that hannibal was also just not in on it at all he's like mysterio is right maybe like no no no no um they head up to the roof they talk about mit ned has what i call a c-3po moment and a moment where he cock blocks peter without really knowing it he's just like oh let's go to mit we should room together and they can't get in they all apply they have the applications they eventually read them together they all don't make it in because of the controversy because of the connection to spider-man and peter sees a halloween decoration it's like a doctor strange rubber duck that reminds him oh

yeah i've got a wizard friend in new york so he heads over to bleaker street must be so sick to have a wizard friend man like you know we have we have some like you know in our jobs i guess i guess that's kind of like his job is being spider-man like we have some some funny guys some guys who can maybe pull some string we have mean, you have a fucking like millionaire who could, you know, if we ever need a Tony Stark. Yeah, exactly.

I'm also like terrified to even like, like text her or anything, which the Avengers might feel the same way about Tony. That's true. That's why fucking what's his name? Falcon was like begging for cash. I like a bank instead of just like going to like pepper. Let's be honest,

pepper. I almost said a bad word. I almost said a word that's usually reserved for eleanor bishop she strikes me as that because glenn pouch gwyneth baltro i'm sorry to go on a rant here she's actually she's too fucking cool for the mcu and i despise always yeah she always acts like she's too cool for the mcu i don't like that and we could and i know our cat whoever the casting agents for all these movies knock it out of the park, and she's actually really good as Pepper. I wish we had any other actress that just didn't act too cool for school. You don't have to love it. It's also like we have so many actors in this movie, like Tom, like even Andrew Garfield, that are so passionate about their characters that love it that it makes her not liking it just worse.

It's like, what? How are you not in on this? Look at your co-stars. They're so happy to be in this. Yeah, and they're fucking big ass names too. she's selling fucking vagina candles yeah exactly i mean speaking of actresses zendaya when zendaya was talking about being a mets fan and this is their year i'll tell you the heart was flooded i think the mets are gonna go all the way this year she's an uncle stevie fan i can see it in her eyes she believes in uncle stevie she probably has frank the tank

blocked on twitter she doesn't have any time for that negative uh and it was just a very cool scene and it kind of like um what it did was after all that crazy like first scene it kind of like centers you and brings you down like gravity wise you're like oh yeah the teachers when they went to italy and all that stuff together you see them come back and hannibal obviously has the line i don't know i just like i felt like i was back with my friends at that moment and yeah it's about to get crazy uh and also like the little things i like i appreciated that how it's not just shit's crazy for peter but shit's crazy for his girlfriend it's crazy for his friends and he's the kind of guy that would feel bad about that and be cognizant of it so i thought that was kind of something that plays into the whole you know

movie basically even that little scene with the teachers is just like, it provides such a nice thread throughout the entire Spider-Man trilogy here where it's like, they're all in every movie in this trilogy. When Zendaya was FaceTiming with Peter, one of the pictures in the background that she had drawn was the picture of Hannibal from detention where she would like went to detention just to draw or whatever,

just to hang out. He goes to the sanctum and wong is the new sorcerer supreme shout out our guy wong gotta love that even funnier about shang chi by the way too like he's doing karaoke as the sorcerer supreme like hilarious i didn't think about that great fucking around getting drunk with shang chi and and uh aquafina it's amazing's amazing. And Strange was pissed. He was a fucking technicat. He was gone for five years. It was like a blip that I wanted them to do. I gamed

the time. The reason Thanos has gone, incredible. I loved everything about it. We are diehard Wong supporters. We've been on the Wong train from day one. All the snow and sus conspiracies, that's fucking wrong it was nothing it was just like a blizzard came in it was kind of just like an aesthetic choice

for the movie i guess yeah and i i appreciate it it was very cool it was different unless now sus mind like there might be more to that we're gonna circle back at that some points like well that wasn't really the blizzard of blah blah blah it was like it was like the multiverse breaking like before the multiverse of madness, like we're going to see the sanctum and even worse shape in that movie or something. I don't know. He does give strange permission to try a spell after Peter's like,

can we go back in time? He's like, I don't have the time stone anymore. He's like, what if we do this one spell? And wonks like, I don't know about that. He's like,

ah, do you remember that party? He's like, no, I don't. He's like, see, it would work. So Peter winds up messing up uh the spell badly we've seen this in the trailer it was way more well done when you watch the full scene like in the trailer it was like peter says like he wants to do something else and this whole spell messes up but when you see it in

the movie and strangers like trying to construct it out of the energy lines and he's like threading it and Peter just keeps adding on like, oh, what about this person? Oh, what about this person? He's like, happy. He's like, no, I'm very sad right now. I'm very upset with you. It was good. And he wants it having to bottle up the spell. And he kind of bottles it up like we saw at the end of What If I Thought when they put like the Strange Supreme has to watch over the Ultron and the little purple orb kind of looked like that in a, in a orange way.

And he tells Peter, like, why don't you just fucking contact the school to get him to reconsider? I can't believe you haven't done that already. That was a tough look for our guy. I don't know. You could call if you got declined from college. Granted, I didn't apply to colleges, but I didn't know that. I let's see i'm trying to think when i got into syracuse i think i i got i got in but i had to like wait

listen to like the program i wanted to go to so i had interviewed with like a person or something like that but nonetheless going to the wizard to make to change the to basically give him the entire universe i think i would have at least looked through some other options before that at the very least I would have done that or at least been like what's or like Google like is what's the closest thing to MIT that isn't MIT also I love

Aunt May but that seems like something she should know yeah exactly so that was like that was a wonderful yeah why don't we call him why don't we go there yeah I don't know the the whole thing though though, like, again, fuck. Fuck. All right. I love Dr. Strange.

I love him. I fucking think he's awesome. Actually, there was a quote, Dragonfly Jones. He had this on Twitter. He goes, MCU going from Stark at QB1 to Dr. Strange is like when the Niners went from Joe Montana to Steve Young. Bro about to put up numbers in phase four. I love that Stephen Strange is basically going to be our fucking leader for

this phase. I love the guy. But again, if a guy's just talking during your spell backswing, and you can't make it work, it's a tough fucking look. You just got to do spells with AirPods in or something. Yeah. I don't want to say this. i think i'd have

to agree that i feel like wong wouldn't have fucked that up so i feel like the source is supreme he got the c off his jersey for a reason and it ain't going back on in my mind anytime soon like i'm a little worried about our boys team and that's before we get lumpy was in yeah yeah that's before the post-credit scene which is a whole other fucking deal we're gonna be getting into whole other deal whole other deal uh he finds the mit admissions lady thanks to flash he calls flash up and he's like what can i do for you he's like got to swing me to school for a week and call me your best friend or whatever funny scene with flash another thing that i like just tiny moments of flash threaded the whole trilogy together where it feels like one continuous story one big journey for peter and his friends he finds this mit

admissions he's a cocksucker which again great he's trying to capitalize on on the peter parker stuff flashpoint come on i think that i also think speaking of the post-credits scene this is a prediction i'll throw out there early i think there's a fucking chance he's this universe's venom what do you think of that wow okay you know what eddie brock again like i don't know you haven't eddie brock in the sony universe we got a little symbiote here what if this spider-man fanboy that always wants to be spider-man gets a symbiote on him and he starts looking like fucking spider-man i i would like i i want him to be a villain i kind

of love venom though i don't i i almost don't want to have him give me carnage give him fucking carnage and then let someone else be venom but no that that's a that's actually a good call bob fox i'm down for that i just want to see him die though i want to see him die yeah fuck him um he finds this lady on the bridge that we've seen in all the trailers so you're like oh shit it's about to go down here now now that we're on the bridge he gets his spidey sense as he's trying to talk to her doc ock shows up alfred molina he has his hello peter moment awesome entrance awesome performance by alfred molina in this whole movie i loved his performance um huge fight scene awesome choreography really well done eventually he steals the nanotech off peter's chest his ties like

hanging out and everything he realizes that this is not his peter when the helmet comes off he is able to put the nanotech on the claws and someone went back in the first spider-man movie 2001 this is norman osborne is an expert on nanotechnology and in the second spider-man movie doc ock says he uses uh norman technology oscorp technology to make the claws so they're like there's actually in the universe, a chance that like they would work with nanotech. So it's like even beyond what you would imagine, like a face level. I didn't even put that together.

Someone had to point that out online, but pretty cool. And Peter is able to Bluetooth the tentacles because of this. He's just like, oh, you use my tech now i'm using your tech he winds up saving the mit admissions lady she scolds doc ock she's getting off the bridge she's like how dare you shouldn't do that and then goblin shows up this is the scene we've seen in the trailer another awesome entrance how they had the grenade shown at first and then he shows up he's like he looked like a green elf and he's transported back into strangers lair pretty fucking awesome first opening action sequence for this movie that acts that opening action sequence and i know you'll get this uh reference it felt like the

first match of like a wrestlemania where you're like oh shit like we're in the pay-per-view everything everything beforehand was kind of like you know the pomp and the interviews in the locker room and the announcers and shit like that. But that fucking thing was going, and there was big hits, and you're like, holy fuck. We're here. We're locked in for the next two hours. Let's rock and roll. I absolutely loved it.

The dueling eight-arm suits, I loved because the spiders, he had his four extra robot arms. Doc Ock had his. They were showing off. And just Peter kind of figuring it out. This was a big movie for Peter's brain. Like he was like, oh yeah, Peter Parker is fucking like super smart.

Iron Man like sees him as the next him. Tony Stark's someone as the next him, which I absolutely love. The MIT lady, badass motherfucker too, just going at like the super villain that just tried to like kill you, just throwing cars around without any fucking.

He's like, you almost made me miss my flight, motherfucker. Yeah. The New York traffic, man. We've all been there before. All this fucking in the Northeast. Just like, oh, fuck.

I need to get to JFK. And I got to take the Van Wick. There's an entire, like, Seinfeld episode about it. I can't wait to be on that bridge the next time I'm going to JFK, though. You know I'm going to look out for it. Like, where did fucking Spider-Man fight Dr. Octopus? Yep. That's our guy, Devlin.

I remember when he first went to New York. He's like, I had to be around all the place where spider-man used to be like we used to be near the um what's the name of that stupid iron building iron building it's a daily bugle um also i didn't realize i i didn't put the two together but alfred melina was the guy who plays like the guy who lights off fireworks and boogie nights have you seen boogie nights no oh it's one of my favorites you have to watch it all right um just this, like, coked out dude just out of his mind. It's one of the most ridiculous scenes ever. And I had no idea that that was Doc Ock. And it just made – I think Doc Ock might be my favorite Spider-Man.

I can't even get into this right now. But I just was so happy to see him. I was so fucking happy to see him. And I think that went for a couple of the other villains as we get to see him along the way. Yeah, so Strange tells Peter what's going on. He's like, when you messed up the spell, everyone who knows Peter Parker's Spider-Man is coming into this universe. I fucking caught this fucking lizard reptile guy, and it's lizard from Amazing Spider-Man. Peter's like, okay, we can fix this, but I need some help.

He calls in Ned. He calls in ned he calls an mj ned in his opening scene it's like hey i've got some magic in my family and dr strange shrugs him off but that is low key a tease for later in the movie unbelievable and this is the scene also in the trailer where she's you got to scooby-doo this shit and zendaya's like uh scooby-doo this shit why don't you say please your your spell messed it up here very funny and uh perfectly like a perfect scene to represent dr stranger's personality where he's like this is exactly why i didn't have fucking kids there was a lot of parts of this movie where i felt comic book i could see it in a comic book right and just kind of the back and forth and

stuff and what is he called the the basement what's it called it's like the fancy no it's like the under i can't remember the name of it but whatever it is and like oh we get to go there i can't believe in the santa centaurium that's what ned says right and it's just such a cool like vibe and then they're gonna say it's the fucking laundry room basically unfinished columbia sweatshirt just chilling in the background uh there's like creepy shit in the fridge and like i like that whole the the aesthetic that they chose for that oh and shout out anyone who remembers the old show dinosaurs where the food would be alive it was like these little creatures and stuff that's what it reminded me

of in there but it's just like that's i feel like that is the difference now that we have marvel and sony doing these together it's like the little nods to stuff like that that might have been like overlooked in the past and um just like the kind of the side dialogue it just fucking hit man everything just fucking hit and at this point you're like all right we're in it now and the goblin's out there and i'm freaking out to myself the whole time like i got that clocked up but i don't know what the fuck's coming next yeah so otto tells the kids can't be the goblin that you guys saw norman is dead i saw him there i didn't see him die i know he died from my universe peter goes out into the woods to look for him though because

he heard that oh someone saw a monster in the woods and he's got a new suit what we didn't realize or at least i didn't realize from the trailers is his black and gold suit is not a new suit it's his suit turned inside out you could see the wire sticking out everything an amazing little addition to this spider-man that i loved because i thought the suit was like even cooler having known that he finds electro he also finds sandman because sandman and peter parker on good terms at the end of spider-man 3 sandman helps him out he thinks that this is toby mcguire he thinks that this is his spider-man so he helps him out against electro electro eventually becomes a human form he's like an energy form at first it comes back into a human form not the one that we saw from amazing spider-man 2 where he's like a nerdy weirdy dude

he is just jamie foxx at this point and he has like a very metal line where he's like yep i love this version of myself this is way better than the old fucking sony version basically and they have a big fight eventually they're both trapped peter has that wrist rocket thing that can just put him in the multiverse prisons and we get a cut this is one of my favorite little scenes in the movie of norman osborn being like tortured by the goblin mask in an alley he fucking destroys it he walks away from it and it perfectly mirrors the shot of toby mcguire walking away from the spider-man suit spider-man 2 when he throws it in the garbage in the alleyway so cool peter gets the call from aunt may she says one of your people are here at feast he shows up it's fucking norman

and he is norman at this point he's not the green goblin he seems sympathetic he's got a cool new outfit on they're still rocking the green and purple in a different way and he they all bring him to the sanctorum they're like this is where we need to go i'll explain everything there i think jay jonah follows him at this point creepy vibes when you see who we know is the goblin to be sitting right beside aunt may and aunt may she's a saint she wants to help everybody she wants to give everyone a second chance peter at first is like let's fucking send these people back to their universe ain't our problem aunt may is the one that kind of convinces him like no they should be fixed yeah fucking defoe just crushes it i mean we've we talked about it like unbelievable and the fact that this is he played this character 20 years ago

he's stepping back into this 20 years later and it's natural like that snapped right back into it they absolutely fucking nailed it with and he did it again and even when he was at in in feast he even had like the vibe of someone you would see in like a place like that that's just down on his luck had some mental issues or something like that and just kind of needs a friend to help him out which is basically exactly what ma does ma is the fucking is like a queen in this movie man she's a saint excuse me a saint um the other thing i love is when they talked about uh otto octavius like what's your name and they just start laughing at him right to his face uh you you touched on on jamie fox now i didn't i thought lizard was by far the weak link of this you know in terms of the villains

i didn't really love electro i thought he was he was the closest thing to like um mr freeze with arnold schwarzenegger yeah it was like a couple kind of like corny lines or like a little bit of like missing gravitas to like some of the stuff he did but uh it sandman i'll always fuck with Sandman, dude. I don't know what it is. Sandman guy? Yeah, I like that he's realistic. Maybe it's just that the other guys are so smart and he's just like a regular dude, has a daughter. I kind of identify him.

Maybe he has a little bit of a blockhead. The only difference between me and Sandman is a little bit of extra sand in the underwear. That's the only difference between me and him right now. And blood thirst to murder people here and there. And he might... Did he definitely kill uncle ben was that confirmed i think it um i don't fucking remember it's been so long since i've seen spider-man 3 like you see him behind the gum but then it's like i never knew if that was actually what happened so yeah i think it might have been him i fuck with but i fuck with the Sandman. And the fact that, like you said, I appreciated how it all took place from whatever their last interactions

were with Spider-Man. So the fact is kind of on his side. I don't know why they were set there together. That I thought was weird. Cause I'm like, Oh, we'll go. We're looking for a lecture.

Oh wait, no, we're looking for Sam. I'm like, they're fucking together in this like middle part of upstate. Maybe they just showed up together. I don't know. Yeah.

I do agree that like lizard and electro were kind of the weak links of the villains i didn't think they were like so bad that they detracted from the movie necessarily electro was better than he wasn't amazing spider-man so like it was he was an improvement for sure but they were yeah when you have alfred melina and willem defoe it's fucking hard to you know get anything in where it's like these guys are giving amazing, amazing performances. Willem Dafoe especially is like over the top going for this. So, yeah, it's tough. And you don't want to have Rhino in there.

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Yeah. Back to the movie. An awesome moment. And something that, like, I didn't even. Yeah. Back to the movie. An awesome moment. And something that, like, I didn't even really think of going into this movie. Like, oh, my God, we're going to get that moment. Is Norman Osborn meeting Otto Octavius for the first time ever. These characters that existed in separate Tobey Maguire movies. They get to talk.

They have, like, what seems like a mutual respect for one another as, like, scientists. Like, oh, my God, is that you? Is that you? Sandman tells both of them like yeah he's fucking right you did die and so did you i read it in the newspapers all over the news you died fighting spider-man electro kind of realizes in his mind he's like oh shit i think spider-man fucking killed me too lizard is like do you know if i die norman is put in a prison he's very like just scared at this point. Spider-Man clearly sees that.

He's like, you put this fucking elderly old man in a prison? What's wrong with you, Doctor Strange? And Doctor Strange is like, if they die, they die. He goes Ivan Drago on them. He's like, I don't give a fuck about these villains. Like, you caused a big problem. Peter, very much sympathetic, very much feeling Aunt May's energy, snatches the box from him. And we get this big Doctor Strange versus peter parker fight scene

you referenced wrestlemania before this felt like that ladder match at wrestlemania where you're like oh this is the hardcore match this is where anything goes it's gonna get crazy it's super trippy it's very much like the doctor strange cgi effects that we see in his movie in infinity war a little bit even inception a little bit of inception we're totally fucking upside down on the city new york city is flipping in and out um he eventually steals the sling ring he trapped strange it also began with uh spidey spider-man getting like sent out of his body like the astral projection or whatever and he was able to still avoid strange because of like the in heightened spidey sense or whatever i was trying to figure out my i think it was a spidey sense yeah because they had little squiggles

on his head we're going off so i was like oh shit one of the sneaky this is almost like the daredevil thing where it's like when you talk about the entirety of this movie you don't think like oh the doctor strange versus spider-man fight but it was such an awesome fight and he like goes math versus magic on his ass peter parker's just such a nerd i love that math could take on magic and actually beat him like math is facts right and magic is this power but it's facts um yeah that's it's it's and to go back to the wrestlemania now we're just gonna make this wrestling fucking wrestling's hot right now that's what it is it's when the two faces fight each other you're like i don't even know who i'm rooting for like i was rooting for strange i'm like the fucking i'm the pragmatic one i'm like all right young man give that back to the wizard and

send those villains back to where they belong peter has fucking rocks for brains but you make a good point aunt may raised him and he has that like i don't know if it's the empathy sympathy i don't know which the right word help people he wants to help people. He just wants to help people. And like you said, now that I think about it, like he doesn't know that that's the Green Goblin. He just is some old man who showed up at the fucking, you know, soup kitchen. Like, of course he's going to help. He's like, you want me to kill this person? Like, you're just down with that?

And Strange is like, yeah, motherfucker. I just fought Dormammu who would have like engulfed the world. I just took Thanos off the fucking, I got snapped away for five years so thanos didn't take the entire universe to fucking hell and back so it was like uh i love i love as much as i love like the special effects the fights the cool shit like i i didn't even notice the squiggly lines because when he does that i always look at the person leaving their body and i just stare like oh look at him he's out of his body and i just love that whole side of it um shout out to the second bootleg for me noticing the squiggly lines the first one i wasn't even close to seeing those

bad boys i'm here in the theater too i'm going kill those villains they are villains that's the fucking definition of their word see for me i was like oh my god this is luke skywalker like peter parker has so many luke skywalker vibes here of like he still sees the light and these evil people like green goblin look at that motherfucker he looks like the most evil person of all time and he still sees the light and i'm like i was like oh i like that robbie listen if you are ever like you know at your apartment you see someone outside like hey man can i use your you're like your bathroom real quick don't see the light and then close the fucking door and run upstairs and call the police like do not do that people are like this for a reason there's one guy this is the

perfect opportunity for me to finally tell this story i live pretty close to a bank and i could see it from my window and there's a guy that comes to this bank he's an old man with two duffel bags full of what i assume are money or something and he just fucking screams at them let me in once a month, maybe. And they never let him in. I think he wants to put his money in the bank or something, but he's like a violent, angry old man. He's crazy. An absolute crazy nutbag.

But he shows up once a month with two duffel bags trying to put his money in that bank. They don't let him do that. That guy, I'm not going to see the light in that guy. I take it back. Robbie, you talk to that guy because that could be some dirty money. I don't know how to launder money actually let's take this offline but i think i want to get into the money laundering business because i don't know any other way i'm going to make enough money in life i just see all my rich co-workers like i want to be rich like them but i'm not as talented as

them and i don't have like the long-term like investments in the company that they do i think maybe maybe me and clem will be the next fucking Brianna chicken fry for everyone. So subscribe here. There you go. Subscribe. You guys, please. Famous people in Boston,

like her make my kid where they said they have wicked crime. We'll shout out wicked crime. I thought about people in watching that in Boston. When he said that I was like opening night in Boston, people must've been like, Hey, nothing but us. Fuck you. You motherfucker. Yeah. like opening night in boston people must have been like hey nothing but us fuck you you

yeah um peter brings all of the villains to happy's apartment at this point he wants to cure them using stark tech he has the fabricator which like blows through the kitchen and auto has a funny line where he's like he's gonna kill us all he fixes auto's fried chip that was allowing the claws to control auto he's like no wonder this guy's going fucking crazy. His claws are controlling him. Aunt May has a great chirp here, kind of a chirp at Otto, where she's like, you want a glass of water? He's like, yeah.

She's like, salt or tap? He's like, what? She's like, because you're an octopus. And I read that in the comics, Aunt May and Otto Octavius eventually become a couple. So this might have been teasing of like flirting by Aunt May. Oh, okay. All right, Aunt May.

When his chip does get fixed, he's super grateful. And I thought this was probably the best like acted scene by Alfred Molina in this movie where he, you could immediately see like his, his whole attitude change. And he's like, oh my God, Peter, thank you. Like, what can I do to help you? They start making other stuff. Sandman has a funny moment where he sits down on the couch and he gets sand on it. like oh my god peter thank you like what can i do to help you they start making other stuff sandman has a funny moment where he sits down on the couch and he gets sand on it he starts like trying to

brush it off and he makes for something for electro as well to put on his chest and then the spidey sense goes off and every single person that i've talked to about this scene in my life has said the same thing they said did you feel like that is what a panic attack feels like? And I'm like, yes. Everyone I know with anxiety is like, that's what a panic attack feels like. Just kind of like nothing's clear. Everything's a little hazy. You could tell he knows something's going on.

None of us know what's going on other than spider sense is going off. And it's the goblin coming out of Norman. He hits him with a web. It goes on that little arm. I forget what it's called, like dummy or Wally or something. It was the arm from Iron Man, which we haven't seen in a while. That was Iron Man's helper. And Willem Dafoe delivers this line so well.

It's one of his best lines in the movie. And he says, Norman's on sabbatical. He's like, oh, shit. That goblin is out. Huge fight scene at this point. Through multiple levels of this, Dr. Octopus escapes. Electro takes the thing off of him. He escapes.

And he uses some moves from the Spider-Man video game, which I wanted to shout out. They actually took a couple things from the Spider-Man video game in this. And I thought that was really cool. Like, I noticed them right away. I thought that was cool. The feast is, like, a huge focal point of that video game i think they probably brought it back to the forefront before this movie and stuff before even far from home because it was featured in that but awesome awesome fight scene the best part of it i feel like was when spider-man is on green goblin and

beating the shit out of him punching him punching him punching him and willem defoe just stares up with that wicked smile and he's laughing in his face. Like, Holy shit. That guy was going for it. And Willem Dafoe said he only accepted this role. If he could do the majority of the stunts himself, he really wanted to be in on it. Yeah.

And he probably like looked back and was like, shit, I had it like pretty good 20 years ago. Now this thing has become something completely different. Right. So let me just go all in. When you said the great line he had i thought you when he uh the line i wrote down here was you're strong enough to have it all but two weeks to take it up that was so good too another one of his best lines like yeah i'm like he was running

up the score no one's phone is running up the score there was a few others too that i have written down along the way um i love oh by the way i love a different one in a much different way it was jb fox where he's like yeah i going to act like I'm not standing here butt-ass naked. As he's just standing in the middle of the woods. And I'll be laughing. And then, where are we? There's really no way to put this. Like, we're in a wizard's dungeon.

Like, Zendaya just delivered that, like, so smoothly. But, yeah, like, when you get the Spidey sense, and it feels like Peter kind of has, like, all these plates. He's kind of spinning them. You're like, we're in control. Everything's going good. Not even that, but like, I love, one of my favorite things in comic movies or even just like movies is when like the villains

that we've known become the good guys and they're kind of working together. I always love that. Even like video games, if like a villain joins your side or something, I always just love that whole vibe of it all. And everything just went so fucking bad so quickly. Boy, that escalated quickly.

Yeah. And forget about how this stuff all ends. But just even when everyone escapes, I'm just like, oh, man, Peter fucked up really badly right now. And all this, to this day, I'm going to get so mad at this motherfucker Peter Parker. Because think about all the changes they had to do for the Infinity Stones and I'm sure they didn't break it down. Hey, listen, we got to send Cap back. He has to put all the stones back for space continuum, yada,

yada, yada. Because he was snapped, I guess, so he wouldn't have even been around for it. You're fucking trying to keep these villains alive, heal them, then send them back to their fucking universe? What are you doing? So I'm just a little upset at Petereter for one side i appreciate you peter he's staying staying strong staying pure um it just gets worse for him at this

point though the fight winds up in the bottom of wherever the place happy lived is and aunt may is there she's there with the cure she still wants to hit osborne with this cure thinking it'll turn him back into that old man from Feast. And she does hit him with it. And it doesn't work. For whatever reason, it just doesn't work on him. The glider comes in. It hits May real hard. And you're like, oh, shit.

Isn't that fucking spiky at the end of that thing? And Goblin escapes. He throws a fucking—he gets on his glider, throws a grenade at them. And you realize pretty quickly, May's hurt. She's gravely injured. She falls down. Peter, oh, my God. Tom Holland, the way he plays this, it was the most tragic scene I've seen him in since, like, Mr. Stark.

Like, you know, please, no. She says the line. She says, with great power, there must also come great responsibility the official line from stanley and steve ditko the original line it's not you know it's misquoted in the toby mcguire one but she says it word for word in this and she dies super super sad scene happy shows up at the last minute he's detained he kind of sees it spider-man has to evade the next shot is an all-time spider-man shot in the history of these movies where he's just crying in the rain and the j jonah jameson report is going on in front of him that's like cinematic masterful shot right there so said r.i.p my dog aunt may man when she great gave that line that's when i'm like ah fuck aunt may is our

uncle ben in this yeah this multiverse huh and this is coming from a guy who was like man i hope we get to see uncle ben die again be careful what you wish for kids because i saw that on screen and i was just like what a goddamn idiot i I'd give anything, anything to take that back. Well, it's like Uncle Ben we never really knew in the movies, right? Yeah. He's always just killed off in the first one. And we know that as the thing that kicks off this journey. We got to know May through all these movies.

We got to know that she's a great aunt. She's awesome. She takes Peter out to fucking ramen. And then they fucking take her away from us like this and she's fucking marissa tomei if you don't look marissa tomei you're an asshole and asshole i'll just come out and say and i'll be the fucking pig head she's a goddamn smoke show so it's like so goddamn hot and happy you know happy is in love with her and she broke his heart and i'm just like god damn it why did my big fucking stupid mouth have to say i want to see uncle ben now i just

want everyone to fucking you know what else i said about this if you would have told me prior to no way home if you would have spoiled it for me and said may is going to die and before she dies she's going to say with great power comes great responsibility basically i would have said oh man really that seems corny but the way they pull it off in the movie isn't corny it feels earned it feels like and it makes you have that like gutting realization of like oh may's about to die like this is it for her and it kicks this movie off on kind of a new trajectory where peter's crying he's in front of the news ned and mj are worried they want to see peter they know that someone has died in this accident so ned tries to summon him he's

like i just wish we could see him the way he did it was so funny he accidentally kind of opens a little portal she's like try that again he's like all right i just wish like we could see him and who walks through but andrew garfield enter andrew garfield spider-man to this movie an awesome entrance and both his and toby's which we're going to get to in a second are kind of like subdued entrances they're not like spider-man swings and he kicks someone in the face and it's like no they kind of let us have this moment where we get to have the personality of both of them shine through i think this is the funniest scene in the movie where mj is just so skeptical of him and she's like uh crawl around and he's like i don't have to crawl around this is plenty and then uh ned's mom is like or ned's grandma's like well can you get that cobweb for me she's

throwing the bread at him and this is the first sign of like andrew garfield is here to fucking try to earn himself back that role he's trying to steal this movie we as the kids like to say we were down bad when we lost Aunt May right like we needed this scene right now yeah and the fact that Andrew Garfield comes in first and he really again for all the shit he took for his movies which you know I think some of it's very fair

it's like man he's that was it wasn't even Spider-Man it was like I was fucking in the Facebook movie social network I like that guy you know what I mean that's the biggest bummer that it didn't work out for him um so they kind of just brought us back up and that's the thing is like you just feel so like like oh fuck everything like not only is aunt made dead and the gob and all the villains are loose but jay jonah jameson's doing his fucking you know he's alex jones by the way he's selling supplements i couldn't think of the guys did

he's how he was. He was Alex Jones-ing this shit. They kind of just brought it all back. What was the Nana's name? Was it Nana? I think it's Nana, yeah. I just love the... They're talking with her, but then some of it's...

She had some knives on her wall. Did you see that shot as well? Oh, yeah. Suss as a motherfucker. I didn't want to say it. I don't want to throw her on the Suss list. A sewing machine, which looked like it had like green and yellow spandex on i was like is ned create a fucking super suit it was her his lola it was his lola that's what it was so they're like oh it's a little sorry i'm going to sleep it was it was fucking adorable i'll tell

you i you know i'm not gonna say i'm gonna it for later. I'll save it for later in the podcast. We have some awards to give out later on. It's on my award list. We knew it was coming, but the biggest thing is I can't believe how good the CGI was on this. Andrew Garfield was an inspiration. That was all just CGI. It's crazy. You would think Andrew Garfield

was in it. What do you mean in it? He wasn't in it. Oh, because... You you would think Andrew Garfield was in it. What do you mean in it? He wasn't in it. Oh, because. You think that was Andrew Garfield? Have you been following the press junkets in the interviews? Andrew Garfield explicitly said he's not in the movie. Yeah. So this was clearly.

Deep fakes. Yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Impressive CG. Industrial life and magic. This was Luke Skywalker on 100,000 trillion. And then they say, try again. Why don't we see if we get Peter back?

Let's do this until we get Peter. And everyone knows where this is going. They set it up brilliantly where they want you to know where it's going. And Tobey Maguire comes through. He's not in his spider suit. So Ned has the great line of, oh, great. It's just some random guy. And he walks through.

They're both looking for our spider-man to help him out they both are like we have this sense that he needs us and does he have a spot unfortunately mp gets a shout out the empire state building they're like a great view but also the chrysler building gets a shout out and then they go no we know of a spot so they go up to the roof and this is a sad scene where all the spider-men get to meet for the first time and it's a scene very similar to one that we get in into the spider-verse where they all compare their origin stories after miles morales loses his uncle the prowler and they're like yeah i lost uncle ben i lost gwen we learned that andrew garfield spider-man has gotten rageful since

then he stopped pulling his punches seems like he's fucking killing his villains like oh my god toby mcguire says i killed the guy that you know i got one i wanted i wanted this guy to die didn't make me feel any better and they basically tell that this spider-man he's right we don't want you to become like us we want you to continue staying on this path of not killing anyone you don't have to face that darkness you shouldn't have that involved in your life and my favorite maybe my favorite moment in the movie is when they have the great power reprise i called it when tom is like right before she died she told me with great power and they cut to toby and he finishes the line puts chills on my arms just talking about it because it's like man that line was so earned 20 years and it wasn't just a cheap fan service. Remember that?

Like that's what Tom needed to hear. Tom Spider-Man needed to hear in this moment. And it was delivered from Toby. Who's like an older brother figure to him at this point. Shout out to Toby McGuire too. Cause great performance from him. And he slipped right back into that Peter Parker role. It felt so natural.

It felt so natural. And it was so, they each played their own role. So different roles so different right where it's like andrew garfield's kind of like the guy next like just such a nice guy right and tom holland's his version which is awesome but then toby's kind of like he's a little goofy right and awkward uh amongst it all and in uh i was actually gonna say bob you gotta go to the the multiverse is like poetry it runs right like that's kind of what you got from all this i thought it was shit got real on that roof but the like the symmetry between it all is what kind of kept it light and fun like the whole uh kind of the whole anonymous superhero thing right and then you know he says it you know

toby says it after you just said yeah that was great and um like the and then the Aunt May thing where he finishes it without him even, like he would never in a million years know that Aunt May said that on her way out. And it was like, all right, we're fucking good now. And they, I don't know, man, they had a fucking cool dynamic. And that's what I remember. Like, oh, yeah, Peter Parker, he's smart. He's fucking like super strong. He has these powers.

He's just like a guy you want to hang out with. I think if you did a draft of every Marvel character, guys you just want to hang out with for like a day, a weekend, Peter Parker, I think would be everyone's like top three, just like a good dude. He'd fit in famously in the basement. If Peter Parker ever wants to come down to the basement. Hey, listen, if your name is Peter Parker.

Marshall at the ballpark. He's a big Mets fan. Yeah, that's true as well. If there's a listener whose name is Peter Parker, they have a driver's license, we'll have you on an episode of The Basement. Yeah, I mean, that would be fucking awesome. If your last name is Parker and your parents had the brains to be like, I mean, let's name our kid after Spider-Man, it'd be pretty fucking sweet. I had two kids that I grew up with and their names were Tom and Jerry. And I'm like, ooh.

Oh, really? Ooh, yeah. That's a little crazy. You're just setting them up to hate each other, right? All the Peters get to go into the lab together and do real Peter Parker shit here. Great,

great dynamic between all three of them. Like there was so much chemistry there. It was fascinating to see just out of nowhere. They've never been in a movie together, but it fit. It felt like they're three versions of the same different person. Ned X Toby. Have you ever had a best friend did you have a best friend yeah i did have a best friend he uh died in my arms after he tried to kill me and he betrayed

me and became a super villain and they kind of like they let it sit for a comedic beat but then later when ned tells peter like i won't try to kill you and turn into a super villain they let it sit for another beat where you're like oh no but we like ned we like their friendship are you gonna fucking break our hearts like that they have uh some funny conversation conversations about the natural web shooters where toby can shoot him out of his wrist and they're like whoa what the fuck he's like you can't do that and they're like no i think i've said it on an episode of my mom's basement the first toby spider-man is the first movie that i could remember seeing in theaters as a kid He's like, you can't do that. And they're like, no. I think I've said it on an episode of My Mom's Basement. The first Tobey Spider-Man is the first movie that I could remember seeing in theaters as a kid.

And I always thought that was just Spider-Man's origin story. I always thought that was he gets bit by the spider and he could shoot webs out of his wrists. And I learned much later in life that was like at the time comic fanboys were like, are you fucking kidding me? You made him a freak. It's like, I don't know. You got bit by radioactive radioactive spider shit would be trending these days if that movie came out now and they'd have all these like mean things to say about it but i love that it's like it's such a dude could guys be it was better than this guys being dudes like can you shoot web out of your dick you have dick webbed like that's what they wanted to say to their like

like weird like multiversal brother that's everything you like and we were all thinking it at some point right we all thought it at some point after the thing even tom's like no no he's not he's not making fun of you we're just uh you know we don't have that so we're curious like the way he's kind of being reassuring is so funny the curious like that's like the perfect word they were just being curious just couple boys just comparing like their bodies with each other and um not only just the war stories but again i this sounds like such an old man thing peter parker is just such a nice boy that's what i like to say like if cn ever came home and she's like oh i met a boy named he's just such a nice boy he's such a good lad god i love these guys when andrew and toby are

talking about like did it ever work out for you no i don't really have time for the peter parker stuff did it work out for you he's like that's complicated but yeah like i wound up making it work like i liked hearing about their future like oh you know what like good i you know i want them to be happy in the future like especially toby because he was like my peter as a kid like andrew as well though i i might have told the story in the past but i went to go see the first amazing spider-man at midnight with my friend dom and the trailers played and then as soon as it was time for the movie to play, the projector just went out, it broke.

And we were like, Oh, and my friend Dom's like, shine your phone flashlight at the screen. When I did, he goes like this and he makes a spider with his hands and the whole theater goes crazy. And eventually like 20 minutes later,

they wound up moving the whole theater into another like screening room, another theater. And I said, like, as we were moving that moment where he did the spider-man logo and everyone cheered we had such a sense of camaraderie in that theater we were like oh yeah we're all going to see fucking spider-man tonight so both of the spider-man i do really enjoy i thought the establishing shots for the final battle some of the coolest most like drama building shots of just the sunset going down on new york city we have jay jonah talking to spider-man he's interviewing him via facetime and spider-man shows off i'm at the place of second chances the new and improved statue of

liberty we see the statue of liberty has captain america shield on it they're in the process of putting it on so they're scaffolding everywhere scaffolding the best friend of action movies and they're bsing about their history the spider-man as they're waiting for villains to show up they're like hey did you ever fight uh uh weird aliens he's like oh i fought an alien with black goo once we get a great shout out to toby mcguire breaking his back on sea biscuit where he's like oh my back he's like let me crack it for you let me crack it for you isn't that better? I loved Toby telling Andrew, you're amazing,

man. Don't doubt yourself. You're amazing. You're truly amazing. He just kept saying it over and over again. The, again, the chemistry between the three Spider-Man as good as we possibly could have

asked for. And I will allow, just because I know it would have been tough to do, it would have been like a very like fan service. And like, listen, there's a ton of fan service in the movie. It's just what have been tough to do, it would have been like a very like fan service. And like, listen, there's a ton of fan service in the movie. It's just what they're going to do.

This movie is more a fan service movie than it is like a film. Right. Yeah. And they knew that too, like going in, they were like, we're, you know,

I don't think they thought they were making the Godfather with this. Exactly. And I'm a thousand percent. All right. With that. I knew that going in, I would have loved to see the pointing meme in the suits, but they did in the lab did it in the lab right they kind of did it later on when they regroup after the first like shot of the battle they did it with the the masks off so

yeah but they're the suits on but the masks off so i saw a screen cap where it kind of looks like that like it would have been hard to just have the like pause for comedic beat as well because they did do a lot of those moments they did a lot i mean i'm something of a scientist myself we forgot to mention that what a fucking callback that was in my top i have a top three moments and that was definitely and then again i saw it in the theater and i well i think the bootlegs you could get some laughter and stuff that was a big time yeah there actually was some like i got a little bit of the theater experience because you could see people get up at points and go to the bathroom. And when people cheer, when the Spider-Men come on screen, I got a little bit of it, a little bit of the theater experience. And I'm going to go, hopefully, I think I got COVID a while ago.

I think I'm on the last half of it. Also lucky my symptoms are gone at this point. Like I felt completely normal today next opening weekend i bet we'll still be cool you know sold out theaters maybe not the biggest spider-man fans if they didn't see the first opening weekend but people seeing it for the first time so i'm hoping to see it in a packed theater next weekend hey bob i got news for you there's gonna be a whole fuck i mean half our fucking office is going to be seeing it for the first time next week or two in person. True.

Because everyone is fucking COVID right now. I could go with the whole COVID crew, yeah. And now that I know that, right, a week post-COVID, I'm the safest I could possibly be. I might wear a Spider-Man mask to the theater anyway, but that's just because of my fandom, you know? You have super immunity. Shout out Chris Castellani. Yeah, exactly. It's Chris, man.

I fucking love that guy. That was incredible. But, yeah, you're going to be the strongest guy there on this side of Spider-Man in terms of your immunity. Yeah. exactly. It's Chris, man. I fucking love that guy. That was incredible. You're going to be the strongest guy there this side of Spider-Man in terms of your immunities. Electro, Sandman, and Lizard arrive, and the Spider-Men at first do a really bad job of working together against them. They're like, we've never worked as a team before. They all regroup. And they're like, what the fuck? I thought I was Spider-Man 2. I thought you were Spider-Man 3. No, you're Peter 3. You're Peter 2. And Peter tells them, our Peter tells them, I was with the Avengers. i was spider-man 2 i thought you were spider-man 3 no you're peter 3 you're peter 2 and peter tells

them our peter tells them i was with the avengers and toby says that's awesome what is that and he's like it was at earth's mightiest you know and andrew's like a band you weren't fucking bad he's like i wasn't in a band he sets the record straight they have another funny like very meta scene where he's like you're peter 3 and andrew garfield was like all right i'm peter 3 it's like everyone knows he's the fucking you know in the public eye the the worst peter and they trap sandman in the statue of liberty they have this amazing you know they're swinging around the statue of liberty when they all land that's thor landing on wakanda in terms of just like a screenshot you could make that a wallpaper tomorrow and it's perfect um they trap sandman

in the statue of liberty they wind up curing him he's the first one to get cured ned and mj are forced to court uh to come through the portal that they created because lizard comes in through the the lab and stuff doc ock shows up for a face turn and awesome we kind of knew he was a face turn but it was like a uh fool you out because he grabs the spider-man at first then he grabs electro then he puts the thing in electro he cures electro and lizard is cured in the right next moment and finally dr strange comes back he's like i've been dangling over the grand canyon for 12 hours this scene amazing electro tells peter he wishes that he was black he's like you were always helping poor people in queens i kind of figured you were black i was kind of hoping he's like like, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sure there's one out there.

A little tease for miles Morales. We all know that we've all wanted him to come into the universe, Toby and doc catch up. And they have a call back to their very first scene ever on screen together where doc says, how are you doing? He says, I'm trying to do better.

Peter says, I'm trying to do better. When doc says, I think he says something about like, Oh, journalist. I'm, I'm not into that. They're all liars these days. And he's like, Oh, I'm trying to do better when doc ock says i think he says something about like oh journalist i'm i'm not into that they're all liars these days and he's like oh i'm trying to do better that was cool and doc ock just being like oh my god you're so much older it's good to see you man like it makes you feel warm inside you're like oh my god it's been 17 years since these two have

been on screen together and it's kind of like you forgive him right it's like the guy had a chip fucking cool amongst us has the end of Spider-Man 2, you know? Like, he has a redemption arc in that where he kind of saves Spider-Man. And they made a point to say, like, I had Peter by the throat, and then I came here. Because when he had Peter by the throat, it was right before he had his redemption in that movie.

Yeah. They made sure to hammer that over. He's like, I'm still a bad guy. All I could think of in the beginning of that scene was all the goddamn assholes who were breaking down looking for oh look he's fighting another spider-man the lizard's doing this i'm like what a bunch of assholes it was on the screen of course we have to do it was a cool moment too when you saw what actually hit lizard it was like a flipping kick by yeah it was a nice

move um i you said it too i love the teamwork and just like the throwing together they're using the spidey senses um and even fucking like power bombs and shit like there was like legitimate moves and stuff like that power bomb is from the ps4 game that's from the ps4 game okay yep um and the the power of the sun in the palm of my hand right yeah that was that was another good shout yeah uh ned hanging i remember i i said i well so mj falls andrew garfield gets his redemption bone which i thought could be the case i call that in the after the trailer but then ned was hanging off and i said us big boys we're like fucking wiley coyote once we go we're going fast and there's nothing but like some smoke once we hit and i thought he was cooked fucking dr strange the cape comes on i'm calling

right now that was some foreshadowing right there we talked about magic the tingling in the fingers he's already fucking using the sling ring and all that kind of stuff that felt very foreshadowing strange took note too he's like did you have to open a portal and he's like yeah he's like yeah there was a way that was a hard hmm from dr by the way shout out to that cape that's like an unseen mvp we talked about a little bit in What If. Spider-Man got to wear the cape in What If, and he wears it a little bit in this movie, which is like, oh, I remember that from the little thing.

Cape is just classic. We talked about it like the magic carpet before. The magic, yeah. That was the perfect analogy. It has the same fucking vibes to me. It has the same personality, all things considered. I mean, obviously we'll get to the end, but I was just yeah the same personality all things considered and uh like i mean obviously we'll get to the end but i was just happy that and what is all said and done

green goblin was the villain because when you think yeah it was batman they made the right choice there like they gave him the most screen time and for good fucking reason batman joker x-men magneto spider-man green goblin, Doctor Doom. Like that's how I see it. This only solidified it like even more so where you're like, oh yeah. Like the iconic moments that Green Goblin and Spider-Man have in this movie. It's like I didn't think we were going to get more of those from Willem Dafoe. He does show up. He's got kind of a new look.

He's got the goggles. He's got a tattered purple hoodie still on over the suit, which makes it look like his old appearance, right? And MJ falls, like you said. The glider takes out tom andrew saves her for redemption and that moment where he's like oh my god are you okay and she's like are you okay he starts crying great performances all around the multiverse starts cracking open around us some spider-man villains are coming in can't really see anyone uh very clearly people have said maybe we saw scorpion maybe we saw craven maybe you saw rhino just by the silhouettes i watched the bootleg where i couldn't see any of those uh and then peter and goblin wind up uh sharing the final fight on captain america shield which is at this point fallen kind of into the water the sun is rising as this fight is happening

which makes for a very cool visual uh over the entire fight scene peter stops pulling his punches he power bombs the goblin he starts beating the ever-living fuck out of the goblin he picks up the glider they really focus in on how sharp that thing is and he picks it up to kill him and toby stops him and this is a great moment no words even need to be said between toby and tom they just share that look and toby's like don't fucking do this toby at the end of his movie didn't want goblin to die you know this is his best friend's dad he was like i can't believe that this had to happen he winds up getting stabbed for this because seeing the good in

people is always gonna come back to bite spider-man. Andrew throws Tom the cure right as Goblin is saying, you know, you might, I might've been the one that hit the final blow, but you were the reason you were there. You killed her. Talking about Aunt May. He's got that crazy deranged look again. You're like, holy fuck, give him the Oscar now. And he stabs him in the throat, curing the Goblin. He looks to the side.

He realizes what he's done. He's Norman Osborne at this point toby and andrew are very proud of their little brother peter parker for not killing him and at this point sad shit starts happening the villains start coming through i mean so i mean as if you know sadness didn't happen before with aunt may but it gets real sad here villains start to come through and peter suggests a new spell to dr strange says what if everyone forgot peter parker this is all my fault right what if everyone forgot and dr strange says all the people that know and love you we would forget and he says we like he loves spider-man i was like oh dr strange you love spider-man let him call him

steven in this moment he said it was sir and steven was a good running joke they had going throughout the whole movie and then by the end yeah call me steven and it did sound weird when he said it too he's like thank you steven he's like still sounds weird i was like it does fucking sound weird he has to go say his goodbyes to the spider-man this is another such a great scene where he gives them a big hug and they just have that shot where they're arm around each other looking looking on proud. Like, this is our new guy. He's the new face. He says his goodbyes to MJ and Ned. MJ says, I love you.

He goes to say it back. She's like, nope. Say it when you find me. He explains the whole situation to them. You're going to forget. And he says, I will find you and I will explain. Everyone sent back to their universes at this point. Peter visits MJ what seems like months later

maybe it's the winner it's christmas decorations up around the time hawkeye takes place and he doesn't tell her what she planned what he planned he had a note in his pocket it looked like he kind of saw her and ned got into mit they seem happy they seem like they're out of the out of danger she has the uh band-aid that she said oh it didn't hurt during the battle she's like i swear it doesn't hurt at all and then she says it doesn't hurt anymore to him so you can tell it hurt at the time and like he's like all right i'm just gonna let her live her life i'm gonna let ned live his life he goes to visit the grave of aunt may happy shows up he says how did you know her? He said, through Spider-Man. And Happy says, me too.

So you get it confirmed in that moment that everyone does remember Spider-Man. I think everyone's memories of Peter Parker are faint, but they remember him as Spider-Man, not Peter Parker. They don't know him as Peter Parker. So some people were saying, does this completely erase all the old movies? It's a restart. Not necessarily. Spider-Man is still an Avenger. You know, Spider-Man is still out there as a superhero.

People remember their experiences with Spider-Man, just not with Peter Parker. And in the final scene, you see he's constructed a new suit with a sewing machine. I like to think that he went back to the blue inspired by Toby and Andrew when he saw it on them. He's like, fucking A, I'm going back to the classic suit. And you and andrew when he saw it on them he's like fucking i am going back to the classic suit and you see him swing through a snowy new york city this is one of the best spider suits we've seen it's so classic bright vibrant kind of shiny and we're gonna get a peter parker that we kind of know and love from the comics a down on his luck broke kid in new york city it looks like he's in the apartment that Toby was in.

Doesn't have money anymore. He was given everything that he ever wanted. And then he got it all stripped away from him. And we're back to square one. And that's Peter Parker. It's the story. Peter is a great guy. Makes all the right choices,

but always the world just fucking fucks him. He gets fucked. He's such a nice boy too. I love that Peter Parker. He's such a nice boy too i love that peter parker he's such a that that suit is fucking clean too i'm very happy that's gonna be moving forward at least for the next movie um might get a little black in it at some point that it'll save that for later yeah but yeah you said it perfect it's it's it's it's like a reboot and a rebirth of the friendly neighborhood spider-man and he's gonna have all the struggles that this peter never

had because he had like the richest smartest man in the world at his back and that was the biggest gripe too people had for this this peter parker which i never personally had as a gripe i always viewed it as we've seen the uncle ben peter parker you know we've seen that peter before so getting a peter parker who was like just grabbed into the avengers by tony stark it was an interesting look. But now like everyone's satisfied and the people that were happy with that. Now we get the Peter Parker we know and love and the people that were not happy with that. Oh, well, this is the Peter you were looking for the whole time.

Like I said, oh, you thought Peter was just this rich kid who got everything he ever wanted handed to him. He was. And now he's the Petereter that you know we were building through this whole time i i think that you know as you're building this universe too i i think you'd want this guy like i think we i i don't know how much more we could have done with that peter would have felt almost like cheating right yeah so it's like we're kind of like leveling it how do you go up from there how do you go up from this movie the spider verse all of the old villains 20 years in the making you don't go up you go down you do a grounded movie the next movie you do spider-man and daredevil versus fucking kingpin

in new york city with a side of symbiote infected some people are you know something like that you take it back to the friendly neighborhood spider-man and as much as like you know he didn't have easy but like our guy our guy tom holland here like the guy lost may right dead mj doesn't remember him ned gone tony was like his fucking mentor he lost him before this even started and even happy is yeah happy is like his last thread to tony too yeah think about far from home when they were talking about tony and happy was like oh no he chose you because like he can't have those conversations anymore. He lost Strange, right? And that's, like, if Strange is going to be the guy we think is going to be this phase, like, that's the problem.

Like, that is brutal, man. So, I think, like, obviously, they, like, hammered his apartment. It's a shitty little place, and he's going to be getting bugged for rent, I'm sure, nonstop in the next movie. Might have to get a job at the Daily Bugle taking pictures of Spider-Man, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Did Spider-Man have an Only only fans in 2021 where he sells pictures of himself i want to see these webs want to see how i do these webs i don't know he could

um the post-credit scene the first post-credit scene i'm gonna have clem explain to me right now because for whatever reason on my bootleg it was in spanish i watched it in spanish yeah so you know i i know that tom hardy showed up as venom and it was kind of a play on the let there be carnage post-credit scene where it's like he did show up he was kind of pulled into this universe and whatever which way and he just chilled in a bar the whole movie i think and he's with danny rojas from ted lasso. Football is life. And Spidey is life. I didn't realize that was him. Shit. I didn't either. Shout out Glennie Balls. He was the one

that realized that he texted me. He said, is Danny Rojas going to become Venom? And I was like, was that fucking Danny Rojas? The fact that Glennie is a Ted Lasso superfan makes me so happy. It's so pure, right? That's meant to be. Yeah, so basically, he has been, for the people who didn't see the venom um post

i don't know if it was maybe yeah really be very specific on our area of credits um he gets pulled into this universe at the end of that one and so he's there and they're competing he's like oh yeah talking about like uh you know aliens he's like oh no there was an alien here they're talking thanos he liked to collect stones and blah blah blah so they're kind of just and uh i think danny rojas family got flipped so he's talking about how his family just like disappeared and all this kind of stuff so they're talking about that and then um at the end he's like no no and he gets sent back by so and so in the venom and the let there be carnage um mid credits we're to believe that that's when strange pulls him in by mistake. And then at the end of this kind of,

I think the confusing thing about the, and they should have just made it. So that was the point. But in the venom post credit scene, venom makes it out to Eddie Brock. Like he's in control of it. He says to Eddie Brock, let me show you like,

you've only seen a fraction of what I could do. Let me show you. And then he phases into the universe and that's the thing make it out to be like venom's in control of that but i would have liked it better if it was just he got pulled in by dr strange fucking up the spell i think basically what the symbiote says too is like i we know everything that goes on the symbiote can tell what's going on in the different universes so they're kind of like explaining it all and then at the end he gets shot back into his universe but there's a little fucking venom uh

jizz on the ground that was probably going to wreck some havoc with us in the next spider-man movie which is probably coming out in the next like six days the way it works yeah i will say this i don't know how much you could hear in the spanish everything in that movie that was good that was marvel and sony working together they're like tom, they're Tom, they're fucking Andrew, and they're Toby. That Venom voice is so fucking bad. And I'm just like, that's Sony by itself. Shout out Chris Castellani. We did Lights, Camera, Barstool, and he said, instead

of a Venom movie, they tried to make The Mask with Venom. And I was like, oh, yes. That's the perfect way to put it. They're trying to make a weird comedy where Venom and Eddie Brock are buddy-buddy and it's a wrong com, and I'm not into that. a weird comedy where Venom and Eddie Brock are buddy-buddy and it's a wrong com. And I'm not into that. I said I want Venom to bite skulls off.

I want Venom to be creepy. I want to be afraid of this guy. I don't want to think he's a whatever. I have two things on this. Or really just one because I said the Venom thing before about I look forward to flash becoming venom in this universe that's my personal wish one i think it would have been funny to have topher grace sitting next to tom hardy at the bar and you didn't have to reference that he's eddie brock or he's from a multiverse he could just be a random bar patriot number two but it's him as the actor right he could have been the guy from

that 70s show exactly eric foreman is that yeah could have been him um another thing this is this is a take that i've been sitting on i the only person i told this to is fran and fran told me i broke her heart by telling her this unfortunately because danny rojas was in this scene it got me thinking about ted lasso a little bit and i think ned is going to be our nate the great in this universe i think Ned is going to be our Nate the Great in this universe. I think Ned is going to remember all of his experiences with Spider-Man because as we saw, MJ still had the little cut. So I think they were there on the Statue of Liberty with Spider-Man. They didn't know it was Peter Parker. And I think Peter is going to decide in the next movie,

let me leave them out of my life. I put them in danger too many times. I'm going to let them live their life in MIT. And that is going to come back as maybe the fucking hobgoblin, maybe another villain and say Spider-Man abandoned me. And that is going to be the origin story of Ned, the former Nate the Great, you know, all of that. What do you think about that? Well, Rob, one of our awards was a sus character of the movie. And I mean, again, I did this with a nice old man, a dog that was murdered.

And I'm throwing my fellow big bone guy Ned on. I feel bad, but I think he's destined to be a villain. I think the beat that they leave with those two times where it's like, you know, best friend, you tried to kill me or, you know, tried to murder me.

I promise I won't kill you. That Ned does not remember saying that now he doesn't remember. He didn't say that to Peter. He was with three Peter Parkers. Yeah, exactly. So I don't remember that at all. I think it's some,

it's some bad fucking juju. And I don't know. It's going to break our hearts. He kept them, the emperor Palpatine, you know? Like, fuck. Yep. And then the MJ factor, whenever there's a girl involved,

and they seem like they're just friends, but if he has a crush on her, they maybe date a little, or something happens where he's jealous of Spider-Man. Like, I see this all going. He's smart as a motherfucker, right? We know Ned's in MIT. Yeah. And he has some potential magic abilities. He's been losing a motherfucker right we know ned's in mit yeah and he has some potential magic abilities he's been losing a lot of weight too if you see the actor he's like a lot of weight

i think he's prepping for i'm gonna be a spider-man villain i'm gonna be spider-man and i'm gonna be dating some a-list celebrity ladies out in hollywood in real life so i'm telling you ned i love you as a fucking i i almost feel like i have to ride with him just as like you know the big bone boys we have to have to ride together here. Star Wars fan built that Death Star, which they brought back for a funny gag in this when they had the arm, put it back together, and then knock it over.

It was growing and growing, and then you get knocked down. Ned is number one on the sus list. That's the sus list right there. Ned is the most sus. You could see it coming a mile away. They're going to break our fucking hearts again, and they're going toeter parker's heart when they have to have ned fight him and it's gonna be like don't you remember me i did read online that so this whole uh i think it's called one more day is the name of the comic that this was kind of based on

and it was mephisto is very involved in that one of course um but it involves aunt may dying and peter being like is there anything i could do i think he sells his marriage to mephisto so he can no longer know mary jane in return for getting aunt may back something like that i remember this i read up on this in the past yeah yeah i read that when peter eventually goes back to mary jane goes back to the people that he knows and loves and says i am peter parker spider-man their memories come flooding back so that immediately gave me the hope that that's kind of where they're going to go in the future because i think let's say tom signed down for

another trilogy is the rumor right let's say they do three more movies if you did like a little gwen stacy story or something and then by the third movie in the next trilogy tom and mj are reunited and the memories come flooding back the black dahlia necklace all of it that could be one of the greatest love stories of all time i think you end that trilogy with the wedding of peter parker and mary jane or you know michelle jones yeah i i can see that and this is the thing that keeps me going like it's the the biggest thing with that forgetting everything. It's a magic spell. If a magic spell fucking is casting, you're just not going to remember it. And you're like, well, how would you not remember this?

It's a fucking magic spell. Magic. It's also a magic spell by a guy who fucked it up, the whole magic spell to begin with. So there is some outs here, potentially, to get some memories flooding back at some point. So I'll sign up for that as well. I'll definitely. And by that point, I'm going to really want it to. I'm going to be like, I just hope Tom and Zendaya are as well. I'll definitely. Do you want to get into a really want it to, I'm going to be like,

I just hope Tom and Zendaya are still together. I love them already. I said, the fact that they're dating in real life is the only thing holding me back from a depression that they can't be together in the movies. We needed that right now. Like, I feel like they might not even be like,

but also they have to stay together now because they can't fuck up these movies. So at least the pandemic's over. Like we cannot like, Oh Bob, I don't even want to think what you're gonna be like if you read on the news in like a month that they broke up and like we're still like stuck in our houses in the middle of the kids the kids

friends the same way as me she said she was googling at two in the morning uh their ages and she was like all right they're young but it could work it could absolutely work i saw um uh someone tweeted out that i guess he wants to have he said he wants to like maybe take a little break from acting and have kids i'm like i don't mind you trying to lock that down with zendaya as soon as possible yeah does she want to have kids a couple of the century right there they said are you gonna have a spider babies spider babies um and i guess before we do awards we should talk about the dr strange post-credits scene we got a little trailer for dr strange i'll call it a teaser trailer because it's only like two minutes but we see a lot we see america chavez we see uh i think it's called

shuma gorath that big monster with the one eye um most importantly we see strange supreme from what if something that we both said as soon as we saw that episode holy shit it would be awesome if they brought him in in live action and they did they said it's about to get weird and strange supreme is in the fucking multiverse of madness looks pretty sick our guy waldron shout out our guy waldron yep looks like you made a damn good movie uh few people asked if they had to watch what if to catch up and all that kind of stuff and again what if it's kind of one-offs but i don't know if they're gonna bring any i can't imagine they're gonna bring that but you need to know what's going on here i would watch them

before the doctor strange it'll add to it yeah it'll add to it and if there is by some chance some sort of tie-in or even just something that it would just be like oh i know of that either because you had read the comics or in in this case, saw the TV show. Just do it. Captain Carter, possibly. There's rumors about Captain Carter in Doctor Strange 2. Yeah. The fact that they threw the cards on the table like that,

which, by the way, it was just really weird to go from, like, a post-credits scene to a post-credits trailer. They haven't done that since Captain America, the first Avenger. They showed a trailer for the Avengers, and that was the last time they did that. It's been almost 10 years. And I feel like it's also probably a product of the pandemic, right? Where they probably wouldn't have done this because, I mean, Dr. Strange would have been out. We would have had all the WandaVision shit would have come in.

You left out fucking the big woman, the fucking Miss Redhead herself. Yeah, Wanda is in this. And they actually referenced WandaVision, which for a movie where there are a million point at the screen rick dalton moments as soon as he he was like i'm not here to talk about what happened in westview i was like westview oh shit wandavision we're like i fucking love that and it's funny visually it looks crazy too like it has those doctor strange crazy effects where it's like the universe is colliding in on stuff we even saw a shot of like the universe fading away in that black goo gasoline way lava lamp way which is from his what if episode so they had there's some dr sus is back and he's it was cool that's all that was my notes i was like it was cool i don't know what else to

say yeah it was short it was like just a little for us, but it'll hold us over for until the official trailer drops. I feel like what they thought Dr. Strange, or at least what I thought Dr. Strange was going to be. Dr. Strange two was going to be after Dr. Strange one.

It's dialed up and it's, you know, completely different than what I thought it was. But I feel like they've had to dial it up now, just the way that everything has broke with the phases and who's come back as characters and kind of the way everything's gone. But honestly, I am very,

I'm, I just hope Scarlet Witch is on our side. Like that's, we're in fucking trouble too. Yeah, exactly. The Susless is all, not only is that like a character we like,

that's a character that'll put us in danger. Yeah. The Susless is all fun and games and we're like, oh, which character is going to be trashed? This one could take, just destroy the world or maybe birth mutants. I don't know what she's going to do. I'm just happy she's back

in our little universe here. By the way, I saw the movie with Sienna. I took her. I was a little worried about it because it could be a little scary. She liked it. Seven-year-old. I think you guys will be okay for all the parents out there if you want to take your kids. And she said

on the way there, her favorite character now, because she sticks with the girls it's scarlet witch so she's so scarlet she was like oh fuck oh yeah like where'd you learn that word no she didn't say that she was she was so i'm glad that i'm glad that like willem defoe didn't give her nightmares yeah that was probably the closest that i mean that's probably the scariest stuff in the movie right the aunt may stuff was like kind of tough someone's just dying in front of you but they did a good job not really like focusing on her showing her glory right you can see like someone gets stabbed it was like she got hit and then she's just bloody he's like help she needs she needs help you know and like you never see her dead and then like the people burst out of the you know ambulance or whatever um by the way that was the other thing

the green goblin uh like the flyer it's like the the jagged edges of it were never like the main focus but it's somehow the thing that ends up yeah everybody noticed it's like fortnight they made this whole game to be this whole widespread thing and it was just like the little battle royale just caught on fire like the green goblin stabby things are the things that you know separate and by the way i thought i thought we lost toby did you think we lost Toby? I did. When you stabbed him? But they also, like, they reassure you pretty quickly, like, oh, no, no, no, he's fine. He's been stabbed a thousand times. Yeah, he's been stabbed a thousand times. But I saw him standing.

I'm like, I can hear that stabbing. And he's second out. I'm like, oh. Yeah, coming out of the – the way he, in the final fight, like, comes – has the blade come out of the gauntlet, it's pretty sick. It was Chekhov's blade. I knew it was going in somebody. And unfortunately, when that guy told me told but i guess everything was fine so uh jeff said someone in his screening fucking screamed when that happened he said someone screamed no

and then like you know two minutes later toby makes a joke about he's like i'm in so much pain i thought you're gonna say like two minutes later chris was like oh yeah that was me i was in my full spider-man house screaming no at the movie theater um do you want to get into our awards yes actually and before we do i just had one question that i thought of because we we didn't open up the mailbags right oh no this is a marathon do you think i've had a few people ask us and i thought this soon up there do you think we'll have any sort of tie-in with hawkeye with the finale knowing that they knew the timeline do you think we'll get something because you have daredevil out there you have the big fella come

in you have just kind of that whole new york underworld do you think we'll have anything where we'll be rick dalton pointing at the screen i really hope so i think it'd be fucking awesome if a random character i heard spider-man swinging around new york again like just something subtle like that like i don't know part of me says no just because i feel like history uh would prove with rise of skywalker and the mandalorian that the tie-in comes the day before right and that kind of feels like we brought back kingpin and then we brought back daredevil that felt like the tie-in to me but i would love like any kind of reference to this movie, the events of this movie. Some crazy shit happened over New York. Like, I mean, did everyone see what was going on in the multiverse?

Because, like, Hawkeye must have been like, it was Christmas time, right? He must have been like, yeah, what was going on with the sky? Yeah, exactly. Or was that just the people that, like, I don't people that were on the statue of liberty i don't know when that scene took place either because there was obviously a time jump to the end for christmas but another random thing that i want to bring up before the awards just because if we're saying all the positive things about the movie there's one slight quote-unquote plot hole in that term me and jess talk about all the time we hate it people just use plot hole as like thing I don't like about a movie.

The slightest plot holes in this movie where they say the spell brought in everyone who knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Electro never knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man. And this is only reinforced by the scene where he says, I thought Peter Parker was black. And that confuses me because I'm like, oh, you kind of reinforce it in the movie that he didn't know who he was. So it's not anything that makes me look at this movie and go, I take it from a 95 to a 94 because of that.

Like it's not even big enough to make me go, I'm going to take this down a notch. But it's just an annoying thing that sticks with you. Yeah. you yeah if and if i had if i had viewed this movie like i would and an infinity war kind of movie where it's like this film standalone thing where this this is an event it's more of a you know it's it doesn't feel like extravaganza yeah exactly we're hitting the reset we're kind of giving everyone everything they want and they gave us everything we want pretty much right dr strange could have said another line one person that said they didn't like this movie yeah me yeah me either was it was probably one of the rotten tomatoes i think it's a

95 critics 99 audience wow really yeah the last time i looked at it was literally those numbers crazy if it was like everyone that you know knows peter parker spider-man or looks like jamie fox i've been like all right that's fine but like yeah so i'm not gonna get that upset i and i would i probably would be could have said everyone that knows peter parker and spider-man and it would have worked because jamie foxx knew both peter parker and spider-man gotcha yeah yeah so they could have just adr'd that line yeah go and dub that over for the blu-ray release we're you know we're gonna be the whole time but we have to

like yeah we have such a nitpick for like an amazing spider-man 2 reference a movie that like you and me texted about it like feige was like ah nobody saw it fuck it they'll probably assume you know um let's get into our awards i think you have the categories pulled up right okay so we'll start with all right right. So the sus character of the movie. Yeah. Sus of the year. Mine was Ned. Already kind of broke it down.

I think I'm definitely with you on Ned. I'm worried about Ned. Like I said, I'm worried he's going to become the next Nate the Great, formerly the Great, now the Taint. Yeah. Ned is without a doubt the sus character of the movie. Yep. Comeback player of the year. This,

see, this one is so tough. It's between two characters. I'm going to go with Willem Dafoe and I'm going to go with Willem Dafoe because it's been 19, 20 years since he stepped back into that role. And I thought he did as good a job, if not better, a job at portraying Norman Osborn

in The Green Goblin as he did in the first one. So I'm going to go with Will. That's fair. I'm going to go Andrew Garfield because I think anyone who stepped away from his other movies or didn't even see him, I didn't see him, I didn't give a fuck about him. Anyone who stepped away from this movie is like, I fucking like that dude. I'd love if he got another crack

at it. I don't know how it would work. Maybe they do a dc where it's like you know pattinson is this batman but he's that batman if they want to do something like that i'd be 100 all right he was the other one i would have given it like both of them stunning performances where you're like oh i went into this you know expecting to just love a spider-man movie you come away like really thinking about their performances all their scenes exactly exactly and if they do bring them in another spider-man movie though you gotta give him the good you give him the good villain or give him the good writer let him fight an alien he wants to fight an alien so bad yeah let him fight an alien that'll be i don't know the secret wars or the other what's the other like all those different things like we can have

a bunch of spider-man in that shit right like we've already like broached this these guys seem to remember today it said that marvel marvel rumor like you have not seen the last of toby and andrew and i hope that's true both of them bring them back like and they could be tiny roles they could be bigger roles they could be mentors i don't think audiences are going to be confused by multiple spider-man at this point i mean look at the numbers that this did everyone saw this fucking movie everyone knows that there could be multiple spider-men at this point like i think you could have multiple spider-men exist at one time everyone saw this movie in the middle of a fucking pandemic where you can't leave the house and be stuck in a place like i have covid and i've made i've made a way to see this movie you know like everyone saw it

i also so like you said andrew garfield was i think like one of the obvious answers so i actually threw another one on there in case we had to go and you already mentioned it. I think Dr. Strange's cape. I honestly, I thought he died. Didn't he get ripped apart? He did get ripped. He got ripped in Infinity War maybe?

Yeah. I mourned him. I thought he was gone. So unless this is a different cape, which I mean, it's fucking, you know, Dr. Strange, I'm sure they can whip up a fucking magic cape anytime. But he came through when it mattered a few times so i had to shout out my guy and like an unlikely hero you know yep uh top top three moments of the movie for you okay i wrote this one down so number one

i made reference to earlier for me it's one of the greatest moments in the mcu because it's the only moment in the mcu that can be 19 years earned and 19 years in the making because the mcu didn't exist back then and it's toby mcguire finishing the great power great responsibility line from tom that put chills on my arms i texted jeff right away as i was watching the bootleg and i was like i'm about to fucking cry that was so good uh number two spidey senses go off in the apartment the way that they showed that you know leading into that fight scene norms on sabbatical the whole you know the power to take it but you can't take it their power to have it whatever

that fucking line was it was great whole spidey sense scene made me feel like a panic attack and number three was the uh spider banter when they're all sitting around when they're on the scaffolding right before that final battle. And they're, oh, you're amazing, man. I never fought an alien. No, you're not lame. Like all of that, because that's you really never thought you would see that. Like, I know it sounds crazy, but like Marvel is finding a way to outdo themselves and show us stuff we've legitimately never seen.

Yeah, this was kind of the spider endgame, right? That's kind of what this spider-man end game could have called it that and it would have fit it's the same kind of vibes you get when it's like oh he got to meet his dad again and you know like just all the little things uh mine were number three basically all the different lines that landed in terms of the fan service i'm a scientist myself the uh Great Responsibilities line, both Macy and Toby, you know, the fact that they just brought them back up

and it all existed. I just, I don't know. I'm a sucker for all that multiverse stuff. I was actually thinking, I'd love to meet like the multiverse versions of Clem and Rob. I'd just love to see what's going on with those fucking suckers and the other ones. I bet they're alright. I bet they're cool guys. I want to meet like the asshole too. I want to meet like bad guy yeah clem supreme uh number two is peter stopping the

impale i just love that because i felt like he knew it was you know what i actually got i got star wars vibes from it i felt like that was luke about to fucking you know just fucking go to town on vader the emperor and v Vader stops him kind of a thing. And then number one, I just love seeing Aunt May die. Nah, I'm just fucking around. That was kind of cool. It's crazy to say as a non-cap guy, when I saw that shield on the statue, and I missed it in the trailer, so completely over my head. Jokes on me, I guess.

I fucking love that. Again, I think that's just someone who loves those two Avenger movies so much, and it brings it back there. Anytime you throw the T-man, you get some Infinity Stones, you know, jargon, or you throw something out where it's like, this is the new world we live in. We get the Rogers the musical, we have the Battle of New York, you know,

plaque or whatever, or even just seeing the shield and seeing how, like, the world has changed since, actually, the fuck? fuck my guy where's the tony thing i want to see a tony start like that that should be like got all the graffiti big guy gets graffiti i guess yeah i guess like he could be the banksy of fucking superheroes what the fuck man like i got him out in like the first second of this movie as the as the sony intro is going you hear jay jonah jameson be like this guy was going to be the next iron man i think i put on one of the newspapers too his name is about to get dragged through the mud with all the happy stuff and these mysterious lawsuits and shit like that but again uh i just i loved how the the statue was out there

because it was a complete curveball for me because i see the statue of liberty i'm like oh there's a statue of liberty of course that's what that means. It means liberty and second chances. And then the shield, I was like, let's fucking go. So that got me hyped up. Again, that was like when Howard Finkel gets on the mic back in the day, you're like, oh, the main event is here.

Like that got me all hyped up for that. Next up was, and by the way, I wrote top three moments in my notes twice and I had the same order and I wrote them at different times. So they were just in my head and I was just going to, they were flowing through there. LVP, LVP of the movie, least valuable player. I think we're going to have the, uh, I think we're gonna have the same pick. I think the L stands for lizard.

Yup. Yup. I wish we had like a six actual villain in there and whether that villain, the sinister six would have been uh i guess it was venom but he chose to stay yeah i think they're i think they might be like saving that which is crazy because they did five in this it's like why did you do five if you were saving the sinister six but i think maybe mysterio and vulture and like some bigger villains that we already know might be in that in the future we got three more movies to go i can live if like you know waiting for the avengers assemble line to come i can wait to see

all six of the sinners they're six together but like do it at some point then because we got so fucking close with five it seems silly like you have the fucking name and everything yeah exactly you're right there uh but lizard i mean what, Lizard's fucking cool looking in the comic books too. I kind of dig Lizard. He wears a cape. I like it. Or not the cape, the lab coat.

The coat, yeah, exactly. So, again, he did nothing for me. It's funny when they called him a dinosaur when Ned came. He's like,

is that a dinosaur? And it kind of reminded me with Tony and Rockets. Like, I didn't even know you could talk until just now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then last but not least,

you got to give the MVP for Spider-Man, No Way Home. Who do you got as MVP, Rob? The chalk pick. It's Tom Holland for me. I think Tom Holland gave legitimately the best performance of his career in multiple scenes. I was taken aback by how good he was. I think this solidifies him as the best Spider-Man if he wasn't already.

I know that there's a lot of people that love Tobey. I love Tobey because of nostalgia but there's just no better spider-man story to me than this tom holland spider-man story not only through these three movies through civil war through infinity war through endgame all of that stuff added up makes this one of the most complex um amazing depthful spider-man peter parker's we've ever seen so it is the the pick. I feel like you're saying, who's your favorite character in Spider-Man? I'm going, Spider-Man. But it's Tom Holland for me. He blew me away.

It's named after him for a reason. I think it's a hard time to really get upset about it. All right. I put two down. In case we had the same one. Shout out to Dafoe. I think Dafoe was kind of my, like, I mean, the guy just fucking crushed it.

He really wasn't on screen enough. Like if they, maybe if he had been in that bridge battle a little longer, and then we had a little bit more, but I do think he's kind of the drug. Like three or four scenes. Some of them are longer scenes, but.

It fucking crushes it too, you know, but it's just, it's so hard. So I'm going to remix it on you. It is Peter Parker, but it's Peter Parker's brain. Cause that motherfucker out dual Dr doctor strange with math yeah you know a square plus c squared

he's going fucking hypotenuses and shit up the thagorean theorem stuff like that and he comes up with cures for multiple villains with all different kind of ailments electricity fucking micro trip yeah cured that ass and um like even like in the fucking mix of it all they kind of like figure out a way to work together so i mean we all again peter parker he has webs he's strong he's fucking whatever he's fucking brilliant too so i gotta shout out my guy is just as much you know mj she ain't going for fucking like just the nicest looking dude she's like a guy for her brain she's a fucking mit student so and i don't know man i fucking love peter parker the guy really got a raw deal speaking of mit by the way someone pointed out in the final scene you see puts down a

box in his new apartment and he's it's got like a ga ged study book to imply that he dropped out of high school because of all this stuff and someone said like there's no fucking way he would have to study for the ged he's going to going to MIT. I was thinking the same thing. He's a genius. It's like, it's like, ah, do I have to learn about a little more about Beowulf or something like that?

It's like, dude, you came up with, you know, again, ways to like cure whatever the fuck is going on. Schizophrenia with green goblin. I think you figure out how to fucking pass.

You make webs in a lab. Dude, you're fine. But that was the, the Spider-Man no Way Home recap, unless you got anything else. I got two. First of all, I want everyone, right now, pause the fucking YouTube if you have to. If you're not on YouTube, hop on YouTube. I need you guys to leave your awards in the YouTube comments.

I want to hear MVP. I want to hear LVP. I want to hear comeback play. Whatever you want to do. Or make up your own awards or your top moments. Anything. Just throw them in the comments. We want to hear your thoughts. Yeah. Yeah. And do. Or make up your own awards or your top moments. Anything. Just throw them in the comments. We want to hear your thoughts.

Yeah. And there's going to be plenty of people who are going to have all these different ways that they thought about the movie. I kind of want to see. You guys always bring different angles of it, which I love. So do that. Hit subscribe and all that kind of stuff. Also, two more things. One, where does this stand in your Spider-Man movie rankings here?

I was really thinking about it it's so high up it's uh i i really rate movies on in my mind like how many times am i going to re-watch it how many times i'm going to go back to it have fun with it over and over and over again and i think out of the spider-man movies this is probably going to be the one i wind up going back to the most just in that infinity war end game way has the most fun moments has the most it moves it fucking goes you know every scene is like we're on to the next thing so i think this is high up i would put it i i can't confirm it right now because i only watched it on the bootleg that's the the other thing i feel like i haven't fully appreciated it yet but i would put it in the top three with Into the Spider-Verse and

Toby's Spider-Man 2. I think it's the best of the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies in terms of movies that like are spectacles and that I want to rewatch. I think Homecoming is probably a better like film, a better story. The twist in that with Tombs being the girlfriend's father. Amazing. Far From Home.

Another one that I love. I go back to still to this day but i think i'll go back to no way home a little bit more so the thing about no way home is like you said it almost like a toy you can play with over and over again because you have all these different villains and you have the mcu spice added to all this right where all right i, I think we could all agree the Amazings are getting thrown out. Yeah, yeah. Three, Spider-Man 3 is getting thrown out. If you like one, because it's the origin or whatever,

but I think it goes, there's two in the mix. I think you can throw all the little fucking Holland home, whatever you want to call them. It's splitting hairs between Holland's trilogy, in my opinion. Yes, agreed. It's like- Like there's three very good movies all in my opinion yes yeah i agreed it's like like there's three very good movies all in the same realm if which villain did you like more which

you know c story did you like where that can kind of decide how that all goes it's funny though i feel like a lot of people are still saying like into the spider versus one for a lot of people this i'd say it's probably like two to three even when kfc asked me after i'd seen he's like hey did you see i said yeah and he's like how did you like it i'm like it was a really fun movie he's like oh really like that's all it was it's not like because i think everyone was expecting like a masterpiece an end game oh my god breathless and it's like it wasn't that though it was it was a fun movie below that i think yeah and it was also the most fun i think i've ever had an origin story though and it's because again you're not

expecting to be watching an origin story and then you're like holy shit I just watched this fun ass origin story where it was like we got to watch like we basically had a prequel we basically just lived through a prequel trilogy trilogy fucking crazy never been done before if only Disney could hit a fucking prequel trilogy out of the park

maybe a sequel trilogy too so I'd say it's probably like three for me, but it's like a hard, it's, it's a good three. It's kind of on its own tier. And in terms of how many Spider-Man movies there are, three is pretty damn good.

Pretty damn good. Better than most of the Spider-Man movies. And I know it's not under the Disney umbrella, but I'd say it's probably a tier. I originally said tier two movie in terms. I think tier one is reserved for end game and infinity war for me you know my guardians i have them kind of the next year below this might be tier two it might even be tier three but it's like the best in tier three in terms of all those other movies down there um iron man one stuff like that so would you say where is it for

you on your mcu is it like first pretty high up I think I I think like you said like tier two tier three like it's not infinity war endgame in my mind okay um but it's pretty it's pretty high up especially because I have that connection to the original Toby movies like I feel like those are like the movies that I grew up with in a lot of ways I remember going to see the first one with my family going to see the second one with my brother going to see the third one with my brother and sister in IMAX we were like oh we got to see the third one in imax this is a trilogy we love and you know the third one wound up being what it was and i remember even at the time being like yeah i like the other two better i was like 10 um able to realize that but

yeah this is this is pretty high up and in terms of like i said movies that i want to re-watch i'm gonna watch this movie dozens of times i've watched it three times already and we have to shout out who was your friend again who put the spider on the screen dom yeah he played drums on back to school pop punk back to school he's the drummer on that track yeah shout out man so it's like that's the other thing too that i think there's like a there might be a difference in how everyone views it i was older when all the even the movies that come out but there were so many people that i saw just on twitter who were around your age i also suffered through the andrew movies yeah i finally got to see him be a good spider-man you didn't have to

see those you were just like this guy's great i was like oh i've never seen the rules like this is terrible like all right well we're just gonna act like that never happened that's a sony spider man that's not this new i will say to people like if you really liked andrew garfield in this movie as peter parker spider-man go watch the first old uh amazing spider-man almost called the ultimate spider-man go watch the first amazing spider-man it's very watchable the second one gets too messy and jeff made a great point he said uh the main criticism is that there's too many characters in those movies spider-man 3 and the amazing spider-man 2 and in this movie they said let's take the movies with too many characters and let's combine the characters.

And they made a good movie out of it. So I do think the first Amazing Spider-Man is worth watching if you are an Andrew Garfield fan. It's not the best, but his performance and Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy, they carry it. They make it watchable. And then the way this movie all ended, and you had said it, you're like,

I'm so bummed about the way everything ended, but I'm so excited or intrigued at where they're gonna go from here that's how you know you have a good movie and like i said it was a sad movie and you're bummed but i was like the next day and it could just maybe i had some other shit going on my life i don't know but i had like like a post sports win glow about me like after your team wins a big game like i felt a little more energetic i was like happy that's how I know they like nailed this movie. Cause there's so many times you go to the movies and you're like, man,

they fucking blew that one. I know. The rumors are that, that that's what we're going to be saying about the new matrix. I'm sad. Oh, really? God,

really, really bad stuff online about that, which I'm, I'm hoping, you know, maybe, maybe there'll be wrong. I don't know.

And then the last, yeah, exactly. We're just fucking Keanu. God damn damn it this is the last one here gotta get my fast food item review of course i had was a fast food item um what would you say it is for me it's a big mac i know i know that's a big thing saying it's a big mac a big mac's a great great item a classic a staple you did three buns would it work with three buns staple. You did three buns. Would it work with three buns?

Oh, it works with three buns. And it's something that I'm not going to get every time I order McDonald's because it's a lot. It is a lot, but you're going for a lot. You know what it is. The Big Mac sauce adds a little extra in. It's a little daredevil that you forget about. It's a Big Mac for me. And that's probably the best fast food item that I've said. Now, in my mind, the coup de gras of fast food items is the AM Crunchwrap from Taco Bell.

I know people maybe think that's crazy, but that would be like endgame in my mind. So this is not that, but it's a Big Mac, and Big Macs are the real deal. Bob hits us with the fucking symmetry with the three buns. I mean, you fucking nailed three Spider-Men. All right. And then the fucking secret sauce. mean, you fucking nailed three Spider-Men. All right. And then the fucking secret sounds like, oh, yeah, Daredevil. And like I said, this movie, you want to like dive into it. It's going to be a doozy.

But, you know, you'll get your money's worth. All that lettuce? Yeah, it works with all that lettuce. It doesn't seem fun. Mine is, it goes in a little bit of a different direction. It's not an actual food, but it's McDonald's Monopoly. I know what I'm getting when I get it. It's not going to be deep, but you know what?

I'm going to fucking look forward to it. I'm going to have fun the entire time. I know I'm not going to be walking away a fucking millionaire. I'm not walking away with fucking deep life questions about what Thanos did was right, even though he probably was, and all that kind of stuff. I'm waiting for Endgame to wrap it all up. It's like, yeah, I'm going to go. Maybe maybe get a free fries out of it maybe get boardwalk and i just get to like just like dream that dream and it's like the dream the dream of the spider-man's

working together it fucking worked perfectly i loved it and um all in all i mean we're happy i mean i want to talk to us like years ago when this was first being whispered about and be like guys they're gonna nail it here i would like to go back i ago when this was first being whispered about and be like, guys, they're going to nail it here. I would like to go back. I may do this. Go back and listen to our Far From Home recap and just see because I remember saying after that one, like, I want to see the next one so bad. It's such a good cliffhanger. I would love to see what we were saying, us two idiots.

We fried their own people. We didn't have the sauce list at that point. Shit. I don't think we did. Yeah, we definitely didn't. That's it for this podcast, though. We went almost two hours. I mean, we said right before we started recording,

we said we might go like 90 minutes on this one. Nope. We blew past that. We talked about Spider-Man for almost the entire length of Spider-Man. And if you've made it this far in the podcast or the YouTube video, thank you for hanging with us. It's been a fun time. We're happy to talk Spider-Man with And if you've made it this far in the podcast or the YouTube video, thank you for hanging with us. It's been a fun time. We're happy to talk Spider-Man with all of you guys.

This is going to be one of the last episodes of the year. So thanks for supporting the channel throughout the year too. I only made it nine months ago. We only made it nine months ago and book a Boba Fett Hawkeye finale. There'll be next look out for that. And hit us with the hat. I got the hashtag hashtag Spider-Man game. That's what we're gonna

do is the hashtag there so if you made it all the way this far and i mean bob you said it thank you for fucking running this shit it's it's been awesome it's been great seeing the show grow and i even more so just i don't know about you it's one of my favorite things like our fans are so awesome they'll just hit it be like hey man i love having you guys in the basement and we love talking with each other and then talk with you guys and the stuff that i dm'd with a bunch of people about this just a bunch of basement listeners because when you see a movie like this you want to talk about it so bad but you can't because of spoiler culture so i was just dming with people just random people about like what we loved what we didn't like what

we thought was awesome the things we didn't expect what we want to come next it was great yeah it was great so and we're going to try to grow this channel so if you can subscribe thumbs up i hate when people ask that they will it would help you know when they see that on the numbers people would be like damn my mom's basement's got a lot of listeners so if we've made it this far listen if you've made it two hours into one of these and you're not subscribed please do us a favor and we're talking we're talking to the youtube person i'll cure my covid yeah exactly that's all he needs is more subscriptions we're going to try to hack the algorithm and get our fucking shit up there. But if you do that and we're going to try to figure out a way,

I don't know how we're going to do it. We're going to try to figure out maybe give away a shirt or merch. Yeah, we'll do some kind of giveaway where we're, we're closing in on 10,000 subs. I think we can get there by the new year, which is like less than two weeks away. Bob's like, that's a little fucking crazy. Prove me wrong. I also, Hey, I have, I's a little fucking crazy. Prove me wrong. I also,

Hey, I have, I have a bunch of toys at the office, like stuff that Hasbro has sent us on open, still in a box, some star Wars shit, some Marvel shit. Next time I go in the office, which may be in a bit because it seems to be fucking quarantine zone right

now. I'll go check out some of that. We'll do a giveaway with that stuff. We're going to do a giveaway. So if you subscribe, if you're subscribed, you're good. If you're not go subscribe take a screenshot if you subscribe to the basement channel and send it to the clem report at gmail.com we're gonna put

everyone who submits we're gonna put it in a thing and then we'll figure out do some giveaways from there but uh we're trying to get to 10k i think we get there by the new year bob's fucking he's the negative peter parker he doesn't think it happened hey if you expect disappointment you'll never be disappointed. That's true. And also one more thing. Shout out Worms28. He left us a five-star review.

So if you're leaving out five-star reviews on iTunes, we've got to shout you out on the show as well. And you leave a little blurb about us. I can see the name. Shout out Worms. Hopefully it's the worm from Dune. Famous worm this year. All right. Thank you for tuning in to this two-hour spider-man no way home recap thank

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