My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 178 - 'HAWKEYE' EPISODE 6 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: December 24, 2021

Robbie and Clem break down and discuss the finale episode of ‘Hawkeye’, featuring the conclusion to this Christmas story, the tease of a new story featuring Maya aka Echo, Kingpin’s true debut, Jack’s redemption, and more! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com HelloFresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/14robbie and use promo code 14robbie for 14 FREE MEALS! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by 3C and Barstool Sports. It is your host, Robbie Fox, and your co-host, Clem. And we are here on Christmas Eve.

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. And we are here to talk about Hawkeye episode six. It's the finale and it's called. So this is Christmas. We talked about Christmas songs recently, Clem, and I had John Lennon on there. And of course they had to title it,

John Lennon to end it. And I loved it. The first thing I noticed. I didn't get that. Whoa! Siri! And also co-host Siri. She didn't get that. Siri would strike me as someone

who's not a Beatles fan. She's like, oh, she'd have all the stupid Twitter takes and all the fucking losers. Yeah, Siri probably listens to that radio head like, you know, weird science rock. Oh, man. Marvel, Beatles,les colliding bob fox is in a little slice of heaven right there it's christmas time nobody's gonna complain if you're complaining about if you're complaining right now actually it's a fine time to complain everyone's complaining

there's plenty of things to complain about but goddamn feels good i feel like we got a a good show i'm happy though i saw the runtime it about four hours long, so it's like a little movie and a half, two movies if you may. Got some characters, got some fun shit, and had some pods about it. So all in all, thumbs up on this side. Yeah, I thought Hawkeye was a great show overall. The six episodes, like you said, four hours overall, four hours of Hawkeye where I liked him more than I liked him in any of the movies. So it's like they definitely accomplished their job on that end as well like you said you introduced Kate Bishop a

new character and she was fantastic a great addition to the MCU get a little bit more Yelena she's really uh making her run for rookie of the year in Marvel I think big time like that her Shang-Chi he's up there Kate Bishop she probably makes a makes a claim for rookie of the year this year there's been some good additions to the MCU though yeah and I there's there's my fucking way guy guy was in like one episode and he's gonna get it all by himself pretty much it's like uh what's his name from uh Silence of the Lambs Anthony Hopkins he was in like 12 minutes of that movie and he won the oscar yep yep that was my aunt bethany pick uh well you didn't see chris's vacation but she's in it for like three scenes and she steals every single one she just fucking crushes so that

that's the same kind of vibe here um we might have to do like an end of year like awards when it's all said and done right i mean i feel like that's it's almost like yeah it's like a given at this point now they mention all the shit that went. We have two years worth of Marvel content. They smushed into 2020. Anything they could smush, they smushed into this. And obviously the Doctor Strange trailer just came out. That got bumped back to, you know, even next year it got bumped back a little more.

But man, there's a lot of shit going on right now. Yeah, if you want to hear us talk about the Doctor Strange trailer, by the way, it's in our Spider-Man No Way Home review. I might clip that. Maybe I'll upload that as a separate video we're learning things about youtube we're having meetings about youtube trying to grow this channel trying to hit 10k by the end of the year so subscribe if you haven't already and uh they tell us more short form content so we're going to deliver more short form content in the new year um another big uh news item i guess before we get into that though let me tell everyone about 3g 3g is the industry leader in delta 8 thc they are a federally legal version of thc i tell you guys this all the time it is the best in the business not only because they have the best products in the industry but because they invented the industry the The Delta 8 THC industry would not be as big as it is without 3C.

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It was Cap with the shield and Mjolnir in his hands. Bob Fox, if God forbid any of the big guns at Barstool get COVID in Tucson next week, I might get fired just for even throwing that into the universe. But if they do, we just need to take your blood. Your blood between the vaccinations, you probably had the Omicron

running wild on you like Hulkamania. All that shit, you are like fucking the cure right now. You have the antibodies needed. You can probably cure this shit all on your own. cure right now you have the antibodies needed you can probably cure this shit all on your own so uh shout out to you for taking it down right before before christmas no less i was gonna say i felt like i was relating to clint i was like i gotta get home to my family in time for christmas the whole time and i you know made it down to the wire but luckily it's the day before christmas eve as we're recording this i'll get to celebrate and stuff

uh my girlfriend's negative the whole family's negative it's gonna day before Christmas Eve as we're recording this. I'll get to celebrate and stuff. My girlfriend's negative. The whole family's negative. It's going to be a great time. I hope the same is for everyone out there listening as well. Do you want to get into Hawkeye? We got a lot to talk about this episode. Yeah, I was actually just I'm looking at the because you sent me earlier. You sent me like your MCU ratings.

And I forgot. I'm just looking at I forgot. Eternals even came out this year. Like that was another part of of the the whole, like, you know, release of Marvel this year. There was just so much shit going on. So yeah. And like Bob said, subscribe to the YouTube. And if you subscribe, so anyone, I'm sure there's people who haven't seen Spider-Man yet.

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We have Zoom meetings with third floor people. I mean the basement to the third floor that's four floors if you're counting at home folks yeah i showed up like ben affleck and goodwill hunting and asked for a retainer not that kind of meeting um would you like to get into hawkeye let's rock and roll baby so we open with kingpin an introduction to this universe's kingpin who as vincent d'onofrio said is apparently the same one from daredevil he came out and said that so some people were saying is this like a variant is he playing the same one whatever kind of like jay jonah he says this is the same one he said yep we're just keeping things the same and i texted clem before either of us had watched it i said i really hope we get a cold open with kingpin that would be the coolest way

to open the finale and we got that it was a meeting between him and eleanor bishop kate's mom and she basically said i want out i want out of the business i took care of armand for you she kind of reveals she fucking killed him um she said you know i know my husband owed you a ton of money he had a debt to you so kate's father apparently worked for kingpin I think that might be the way it is in the comics as well. And she says, Kate's getting too close to this case at this point. I want out of the business. And she kind of Greg the Exum, if you're a Succession fan, where she's like, I got the papers.

I made copies. And he's like, fuck, you made copies of that? Fuck. All right. He says, you don't want to do this. You're making a big enemy out of me right now. And I love the way they shot all of the scenes between Eleanor and Kingpin. If you go back, like if they're from Kingpin's point of view, it's looking down on Eleanor.

And Eleanor is always looking up at Kingpin. They really make him out to be that hulking figure. We kind of know him to be in the comics and into the Spider-Verse. He's obviously not that big, but they make him fucking huge. And we see his strength later in the episode. And then Kate sees it it all on a video that yelena sent her and that's the cold open you you said to me you go do you think we're gonna get a cold open for with kingpin and i'm like holy shit i i didn't even cross my mind i figured we would kind of go back and have clint uh and kate talk about who kingpin is and And then when I saw him, I'm like, fucking Robbie, he called it.

It was just awesome. I'm like, the big fella has arrived. They knew what we wanted. After seeing him at the end of the last episode, we just wanted him right away. Yeah, yep, exactly. And they didn't waste any time. I'm sure that was a Feige note that he threw.

And give the people what they want. The fucking, the hat man says it so. How do we want to handle this? Do, should we say spoilers for people that haven't seen Spider-Man or should we, because nothing like nothing in the scene has anything to do with Spider-Man. I guess maybe we'll just not mention anything that we think could have any kind of parallels,

right? Cause I don't want to anyone that hasn't seen it, not listen to the pod. Do you think that's the way to go? I feel like who's listening to this that hasn't seen Spider-man at this point okay okay fair enough i guess i don't i i don't that's fair i think that's fair i it's not oh shit you know what i i feel like we don't even need to like go there because we'll leave it alone we'll leave it alone there's there's really because again if someone got sick or something or you know they wanted i know there was a few people who were looking for

bootlegs and if you can't find bootlegs and you're really fucked so um we'll keep there's really not here's the only thing i'll say about it i hope we one day see this kingpin get to interact with tom holland spider-man i think that would be really cool especially after like you said when you said the spider-verse it kind of got my little spidey ting uh senses tingling a little bit there um yeah exactly uh eleanor trying to shed the c word off of her after we went to absolute town i know yeah that's probably why she went to kingpin she heard that clem dropped the c bomb he finally did it and she's like all right i gotta you know fix my pr here yeah it was a tough look for mr bishop too because that that was the guy we thought might be like oh maybe she killed

him or he was you know at the bottom of the rubble and he's a hero really nope turns out he was working for the kingpin and got his wife into a ton of debt that she had to pay out by basically becoming a pawn for an organized criminal kingpin so fuck which is also a good detail about eleanor where it's not just like she's evil for the sake of being evil it's like all right she has to she's working out a debt basically but still fucking eleanor the people that she killed the people that she got in the way armand she killed armand killed killed the motherfucker was a creep to be fair he was a creep creep. You can't kill him for that, you know? You can't kill him because he told your daughter to smile. I kind of like that he died. I kind of wish they killed the kid.

Yeah, I wasn't a big Armand guy. I mean, the kid. Oh my god, we got the kid later. Also, obviously, after you see this, you start thinking, are we going to have to hand out an apology to one Jack? to uh one jack so um all right hold on i'll be right back hold on okay all right so i'm doing it right now the boys are fucked up yet again in the basement myself you know i'm known for for going a little too heavy throwing people on sus lists you don't deserve it innocent dogs old men yada yada yada jack is a fucking hero jack you have a get out of sus list free card on me oh wow for when you can use it one time jack can use the get off the sus list card first ever first ever first ever maybe only ever i don't ever want to do this again but that dude's a fucking hero and he's like an awesome hero because he's like kind of like

i don't know if the word's aloof but he's just kind of in his own little world and it's like that's the guy kind of like an ignorance is bliss thing yeah that's out of everyone in the mcu i think i'd want to hang out with jack the most i think me and jack have the most in common like we're kind of just i go to barstool i go to like the office of someone and people are talking strategies and this and that content and i just sit there like huh i'm gonna make write a blog blah blah blah blah and i'm just i'm just happy to be there and that's getting movie quotes like slightly wrong getting phrases wrong like he's an idiot like us i can see me doing that that's that like that's the true um charm of the Sopranos is how that Northeastern always get the quote wrong just a little bit more funny. And that's fucking us, man.

And Jack's right alongside us. So get off the Sussless free card. One to Jack because he's the fucking man. And God damn you, Eleanor, for taking advantage of such a fucking beautiful flower in Jack. God damn you, Eleanor. She's back to the C word list. That's it. for taking advantage of such a fucking beautiful flower in Jack. Goddamn you, Eleanor. She's back to the C word list. That's it.

We knew her from episode one, though, right? We were like, oh, my God, Suss. She's up to something. She's got something behind those Vera Formiga eyes. Jack, they got us hook, line, and sinker the whole way through. We were thinking he's Suss right away. Then we were thinking he's not Suss. Then we were thinking he is Suss.

Then we were thinking he's not Suss. And then he winds up not being sus. His character arc by the end of this, I loved. Like when, you know, skipping ahead, like when the LARPers are like, have you ever heard of LARPing? I was like, oh, how did I not even think of that? Of course he's going to join them. Like it was such a funny little note to send his character off on. So, Jack, we're sorry.

Get off the sus list free in the future. I hope to see more of him in the future in the in the infamous words of big cat play is fuck up these two guys fucked up we'll own it and i couldn't be happier in the larp thing i did the same thing but i go how did i never connect those two things together uh that's that's probably next level shit i'm sure like there's probably all the other like professional like youtube recappers and like as soon as they so larp and like i could see Jack potentially going, we're just having fun in the base.

We're just shooting the shit. And we have that almost Jack thing where it's like more fun to go on that ride and not realize, I think because they get me every episode, they fool me. It's like, all right. Like even,

even a mind like Ken Jack, I feel like they probably don't get as much as they get this mind. Ken Jack is like, Oh yeah, I see that coming so often he's like oh you didn't realize that i'm like oh fuck i'm such an idiot but i i read jeff's um breakdown of succession where it was like all these things about tom this and that biblical stuff right yeah and i was like i was just riding the shiv wagon the whole time because it sounds fun and i like

her and there's a fun little music video someone made about her and i just fuck with her so that that just shows the difference between this podcast and the other podcasts where they have bigger brains and know what the hell's going on but hey you love us both it's two different things but they're all great you can't go wrong either way subscribe we're trying to get to 10 000 subscribe by the way speaking of other people in the company our guy we got to get kingpin in some balls beachwear like he has like the little floral patterns and shit like that he's been in the office lights camera barstools interviewed that actor. So we,

Oh, we got to get that actor. Some balls beachwear. Tell me like Glenny balls in 2022 resolution. That's the first one for this podcast. That's the number one on the podcast. Get Kingpin in some balls beachwear. And we need Glenny and I could call him Vincent DeFore or whatever.

No, no, no. And Kingpin. That's what his name is. His name is Kingpin in the fucking balls beach. Oh, that would be so goddamn fantastic. I love it.

Even throw you in there. I feel like you would be rocking. You got the, you got that bald head like Kingpin. Oh, I mean, I, I could, but it's just like the, just the vibe of organized criminal leader and Glenny balls next to each other. It's just incredible. So he loves Tony Soprano, right? So maybe he'll

love kingpin as well yeah exactly i i love seeing him come to a slow boil too where he was just kind of like oh and then how about he was twitching do you see his eye was twitching the whole time that was sick so i'm like i'm like is that a thing am i just picking because i didn't watch daredevil so i don't know if that's like a thing that he does i haven't gotten up to him at daredevil yet and i'm just like i'm like holy fuck is he does. I haven't gotten up to him at daredevil yet. And I'm just like, I'm like, holy fuck. Is he able to do that? Or is my brain putting the Twitch in?

Is it Mandela affecting right in front of my eyes? So I was wondering if I saw it. So I did see. Okay, good. I'm not in more. Oh yeah. No,

he, I mean, awesome actor. I don't think we have to say it. Cause most of our listeners watch daredevil and they're like, no shit. He's fucking, this is why they brought him in as this actor.

Cause nobody else could play Kingpin. A lot of people say that about him. So like, I'm excited to see more of him i don't think we've seen the last of him um that reminds me of the spider-man episode you know make you think that we have seen the last of them yeah exactly um the the the recap for spider-man um the guy i i pull it back that was from alamo draft house and they're like and we meet the guy I pull up, it was from Alamo draft house. And they're like, and we meet the guy who the only person who ever played J Jonah Jameson. Cause I mean, it crushes it. Right.

So it's the same thing with Kingpin. He's in Nexus being. Yeah. All these, we have some fucking, I'm like, no one else can be Thanos. Right.

It's like that, that would have never worked. And that's the problem with like Magneto. If he comes in the future, like I just, Loki is going to be hard to re I mean, it's funny because they did recast him as a bunch of people in his show. But the actual Loki, you know what I mean?

Like Tom Hiddleston fucking made that his own. They hit home runs with the casting agency when it comes to, you know, the heroes. They had grand slams with the villains. So like, and I feel like you need to hit the villain more than the hero. Oh, my God. Michael B. Jordan was so good in that role. Kate tells Clint, go home. This shouldn't be your mess as well.

Go home to your family. And he says, nope, your mess is my mess. I'm here for you. These characters have clearly bonded over the course of these six episodes. And I love that. I love their relationship. That's my favorite part of the show. We're going to rank our favorite three moments of the show at the end of the episode.

But my favorite actual thing that came out of the show is the relationship between Kay Bishop and Clint Barton. I think that was awesome. And, you know, you basically made me excited to see someone else become Hawkeye by the end of the show. It's impressive. Yeah. And I think Jose started how like you have that dynamic where it's not like just mentor and you know, what's the word I'm looking for? Mentor and student. Yeah. No, the word I'm looking for? Mentor and student. No, the teacher. Teacher and student, yeah.

So it's like more than that. But it's not like daughter and father either. And there's all these different dynamics to it. And again, just like the whole thing talking about, is this the part where they're talking about, you know, being a hero, you don't have to be flying and all that kind of stuff? Yeah, they talk about that shortly. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I just love that too. Cause it's almost like they almost in, in the MCU, they almost need to clarify like, all right, superhero.

That's motherfucking people. That's Thor, right? It's like guys that can play, but it's like, you can still be a hero if you're Hawkeye. And so you don't have to have the superpowers. I guess you can lump them into the superhero category. Itkeye. And so you don't have to have the superpowers.

I guess you can lump them into the superhero category. It's kind of a dick move to not put them in there. But I just love that whole dynamic of it all. And she's like, I saw you out my window, you know, in New York back in the day. That was awesome. Loki invaded. She finally, like, breaks that to him. Like, you're the actual reason I do this. You inspired me.

And I love that he kept reinforcing, like, you've realized you've got to sacrifice a lot. You realize you're going to lose people i love that he kept reinforcing like you've realized you got to sacrifice a lot you realize you're going to lose people like he kept telling her that because he's experienced that like he is the character that would be the one to hammer that home for people so like that relationship building in that way was great too at the same time maya meets meets with uh uncle kingpin her uncle wilson fisk. And she says, listen, I've come to my senses. I'm going to stop. Can I have a few days off to just clear my head? And Kazi's translating the whole thing for him.

And he says, oh, yes, my niece, whatever he says. And Kingpin knows that she's turned on him. He turns to Kazi right away. And she's like, all right, so Maya's turned on us. Fuck. Like you said said the awesome conversation between clint and kate where she breaks the news to him not breaks the news but she tells him about that day where we saw the battle of new york um they were making trick arrows through the course

of that which i thought was really cool kind of spider-man-esque when you know you see spider-man in the lab and stuff making smart peter parker creations we get to see them making the arrow tips putting pepper spray in an arrow like teasing things for later that was all cool and kate and clint go to this party in search of eleanor now because they're like all right she's in danger if she's around kingpin kazzy's up on the roof of the sniper larpers are all around the party as their servers and like their kind of eyes on the ground. And Jack and Armand have such a funny conversation. Armand the seventh,

I'm referring to the alive Armand where he's like, can I have your wine collection? And he's like, why are eight? He's like, you know, it'll be, it'll be, what does he say?

It'll be aged out of circulation by the time you're older or whatever he says. It's just a very funny thing to also reinforce with us again. Like, yeah, yeah jack's a good guy i don't know why he was at that black market auction i assume eleanor just fucking roped him into that one but damn oh shit good call bob i didn't even think that he was there that's definitely an eleanor move that's a c word kind of move they're speaking of c words like go down to the basement there's a party there that's what we're here for there's a bunch of fucking people about to blow shit up. He just wanted that sword, I guess. He's a big sword guy. That's true. He is a sword guy.

Which, by the way, this makes me look good now because as a fellow sword guy with the Sword of Omens, I should have never turned on my kind. I apologize to my fellow sword people out there that I immediately threw you guys under the bus, not realizing that I was then throwing myself under the bus. So shout out to all the sword people out there. Fuck, if there's a listener out there that has a sword,

please tweet it at me because I want to know that there's more sword people. Yeah, tweet your swords at Clem, yeah. Which, by the way, out of all the podcasts on the Barstool Network, I'd say we're probably like top three most likely to have sword people, right? Like, I mean, it's the basement. Maybe number one. I think we're number one. You think we're number one lights camera lights camera barstool but they also they also reach that demo where it's like they talk about normal movies we usually just talk about

the nerdy kind of action movies of the year superhero movies of the year so like i don't know it might be number one in swords has to be per capita too because like part of my take is probably like they probably looped a lot of the overall yeah players so it's like per person because they've a zillion people listening yeah i'm gonna say the basement's number one fucking kfc radio might be number one because they're fucking they're crazy like that like they probably have people who who use it in the bedroom and shit yeah sex swords yeah hashtag sex swords that's the fucking that's the episode uh i was addicted to the

trick arrow scene i'm addicted to trick arrows in general i need like that has to be that that probably could have like made hawkeye um interesting from day one it's if you always hit trick arrows on him and it's like all right it's like you know regular hour regular hour and then he fucking shoots a loki trick arrow and you don't know what it's gonna be i love it they were like labeling them because they in the you know the first time they had trick arrows you didn't know where and like i said you could either pause it and then like kind of get a hint of what's coming or you're trying to like you know see if as they're kind of doing it i i love that entire scene um they need to make a a toy where it's like

five trick arrows inside the little uh you know nerf fucking bow and arrow or something like that that'd be awesome i mean hawkeye's best scene in avengers or best moment maybe is the first movie is when he shoots the arrow at loki and he catches it and then it blows up like just the delayed one like that's basically a simple trick arrow like marvel this has always been the secret to hawkeye apparently fun trick arrows and you know. They make it purple and smoke. And there's the pepper spray one that's like bright orange. Like, I don't know why he was just wearing like a black jumpsuit for so many years. Yeah, exactly.

And I'm like, hmm, Pym? Is that a Pym thing I see right there? So you're kind of like playing detective with yourself as it's all like, you know, the montage is going on. I loved it. Kate tells her mom she knows everything. She shows her the phone. She's like, how could you? Kate's mom is like, I'm sorry. We were in debt. Tries to talk her way out of it. I'm trying to get, you know, I've tried to protect you. It was all for you. I'm getting out of it. Now. Yelena shows up at the party. Kate sees her. She's like, oh shit. Kazi opens fire at this point. Chaos

erupts and Jack tries to step up and be a hero. He's like, all right, this is my time. He pulls the sword out. He starts like helping people evacuate and stuff. Kate and Yelena at this point, this is my favorite scene in the episode. Kate and Yelena get on an elevator and have a whole fight scene just over the buttons because Clint gets off at the 12th floor.

Kate wants to slow down Yelena from getting down there, and she kind of wants to do the elf thing of just hitting all the buttons. I was going was gonna say is that buddying the elf because that's what i said it had to be right yeah had in a christmas special show that couldn't be a coincidence and that simple fight scene was like everything this show is about it's it's the most low stakes like the stakes for that fight where i want to press this elevator button that's it it's not world ending stuff it's simple and that's why hawkeye worked and that's why i love that we can do this as a show where it doesn't have to be a theatrical release it has to make x amount of

dollars or has to you know can't have a budget of this it's like we could just have fun we had fun for six episodes and that that fight kind of entailed and it's like but you're also getting new characters. Or having characters interact for the first time. That's like fucking cool. And these two had great chemistry. The scene last episode. The macaroni scene.

And then this scene where she rips her suit suit off. And her Hawkeye suit is underneath it. She's like did you plan for that? And she's like yeah kind of. And they fight through the hallway of 30 Rock. And I'm not a 30 Rock fan myself, but I was like, I wonder if there's references to the show in there. Like any of the things they, any of the desks that they go past. I thought that would have been an interesting thing to throw in there if the show creators are fans of that show.

But it was cool the way they shot it, like going through each room, like kind of side by side. Yelena runs down a building with a wire to get clint and kate follows her very much a superhero moment for her she has the superhero landing she fights off the tracksuit mafia with jack and then clint sets up traps all over kind of sets him off all at once to trap the tracksuit mafia fights kazi hits a sick german suplex in this fight literally like picks him up full nelson german suplex something like that and he jumps out the window ziplines into the rockefeller center christmas tree what a hilarious scene this was he sees the owl in there that was

so funny when when he took down the rockefeller tree i'm like is that like a federal crime like i feel like there's there's certain things. Yeah, Kate shoots an acid arrow at it. Yeah. Literally corrodes the tree down until it breaks. I feel like if like you jump in the tree in Rockefeller Center, like there's like six snipers who are just like, it's like taking down, it's like going at the Statue of Liberty or something.

It's like certain landmarks in this world that you just can't do. And the Rockefeller Center tree somehow like made the list. And the crazy thing about going back a little, when Jack comes out of jail and he already has his sword on him and they even make them all like, you have a sword on you already? And he's like, yeah. And I'm just like, you sus motherfucker. And then, of course, it all comes circling back. By the way, speaking of Armand too, cunt. He's cunt.

I'm just calling it out. I didn't even warn the listeners. He is fucking, there's no watch Armand too, cunt. He's cunt. I'm just calling it out. I didn't even warn the listeners. He is fucking – there's no watch list for that little cunt. Yeah, there's no warning. That one hit me hard. That was funny. You basically have like VII in your name. You are on the fucking C word list.

It's not even like – there's no watch list beforehand. Kazi, I love snipers and games. I love them in movies. I love being the sniper and all that shit like when they show the his point of view right and it's like a little circle on the screen that's cool exactly however it's up the tension kazi is the worst sniper i've ever seen in my life yeah did he hit anyone no he didn't hit anyone and he like he and like the whole thing about a sniper is like up like it's he shoots and then you're waiting and then he shoots again he might get someone and there's like it's the pause it's the the silence that kind of fucks

with you more than the actual shots and he's just like unloading it sounded like an automatic rifle at one point and it's like i i hate kazzy i hate him went to stormtrooper school he's oh my god bob right here this is what it says he's a glorified henchman, and he's pretty much Phasma. Like, Phasma was this character who was built up for fucking, like, two, three full fucking movies in the sequel trilogy in Star Wars, and they just got their asses kicked every time. Kazi fucking stinks. He stinks. I don't hate that comparison.

How did he get hired? But he didn't even look as cool. He didn't get the shiny chrome armor. He just looks like a knockoff Jon Snow. You know, yeah, that's exactly it. He looks like a knockoff Jon Snow That's exactly it He's even a knockoff Jon Snow I think they looked at his name and were like Oh that's a good name

Remember we said that in one of the earlier episodes Oh Kazi, that's a name You're one letter away from Nazi And we are anti-Nazi in this podcast We are anti-Nazi, anti-Kazi Anti-both of you guys He's clearly like Rel related to someone and that's how he got the job and he just like snaked his way up the org he's like a maria sofia

exactly yep he's yeah yeah so i i'm i just hate him so much i just uh uh the yelena elevator scene it was very much like a parent stopping a kid where they're like up like she basically basically has a hand on the head and the kid just swinging and she can't get her. I like how she was always a side end. She's like, oh, that was like a good move. And oh, yeah, I'm a rookie of the year. Like in the fucking running. Yeah, she says, stop making me like you. And she's like, sorry, it's difficult.

And that's almost like, you know, Yelena talking to Marvel viewers. Yeah, because it's like, yeah, this this is a Widow who might kill one of our favorite characters one day. And we, like, love her. We're, like, rooting for her, right? On her way to kill him. Yeah. On Christmas. No less.

On Christmas, no less. Christmas Eve. Maya packs up her shit. The LARPers come out in their full gear, their full LARPer gear to evacuate people people which is such a great moment for them it reminded me of like to make another ted lasso comparison like i did in the no way home review you know the the beard episode that people are like kind of in and out on i was in on that episode simply for the ending where the three hooligans get to celebrate and get to have their moment like the whole episode is kind of like and on but as soon as i saw that i was like all right that

was a fucking cool moment that's how i felt for these larpers i i wasn't out on them necessarily i liked the larpers i liked grills the whole time but as soon as i saw them in their gear i was like all right that's what that fucking that that's what that was all for that moment was great the larpers clean up well too like at first i didn't recognize like wait is that the larpers all right there i know i didn't recognize them either when they were waiters at first and you recognize like grills and then you're like oh wait a minute the rest of them are definitely yeah and and that's a that's actually a fucking fantastic comparison too with the ted lasso thing because they are like the normal people of this and even though we know kate is like quote unquote and clint aren't your superheroes but

they're still heroes right where these guys and the fact when they're like, we're going to die. Like that's just such a good fucking line where you just see all these like henchmen just popping out of nowhere. These fucking tracksuit maniacs going all over the place. Awful fucking look for the widow program though, right?

Like she's sent there to kill fucking Clint and she's, or no, it was when she's going down the building. She has two shots at Clint. And she misses both fucking times. Like, what is she, like, gray widow? Like, she's not black widow. Black widow, like, that's fucking.

Well, I guess now that she's not, like, brainwashed, does she still have, like, all of the same, you know, did she have something special and heightened sense senses or something that you know that would be a fair because i'm there's definitely people who are like on the marvel boards just battling and like worst episode ever kind of shit you would never miss that shot yeah so that but i i just had to make a note of that i'm like you're fucking like you're supposed to be i'm supposed to be scared of the widows, and you miss a guy fucking twice, along with everything that goes on at the end of this. It was just a – Kate, when she steps on the giant piano and goes, dun! Yeah, yeah, and F.A.O. Schwartz. F.A.O. Schwartz has to be a big reference, obviously.

So they built us over there with that. I love it. But I loved it. I'm a sucker for big. Same. They fight on the ice together, Kate and Clint, after she corrodes the tree down. It falls, like we said, and Clint wore his costume under his suit. You start to kind of see some purple in the sleeve is ripped.

And I was like, oh, shit, he wore it. And she's so happy. He's like, yeah, yeah, I wore it, whatever. Trick arrows left and right in this scene. He's got a magnetic one that sends all their guns into the poles, which immediately makes this way more believable. Like that was smart of them to put in. right now the tracksuit mafia's got no guns and there's some ones that shine for big lights in people's faces he shot one at kazi earlier that was like a smoke arrow and the best one again was the pim arrow which he shot at a trusted bro truck as it like came down into the ice made it super. You hear their little Alvin and the chipmunk like voices. And then the owl that he saw in the tree swoops in and just takes the bus

away. She was, Kate was like, what happens to them now? He's like, I don't know. The owl comes in and just takes that truck. I,

I loved how they threw the owl back in there. I big bird guy, big bird guys, excuse me. And it's all bird. I know less. So it kind of goes into the bird theme of that uh and i i was thinking like what does happen do you know like are these guys just small forever or does it wear off after time like i i know ant-man gets bigger but i imagine he just hits a button again i imagine yeah yeah

i think you need like another pimp thing to make you bigger. That's why I said, he's like, I don't know. I get to talk to Hank or something. I feel like, um, that's like the, the tracksuit bros are the perfect like level of, I really don't care what happens to them. They're like the web bandits. I'm like,

ah, you're just getting app like the most worst things happening to you. But it's funny. It's making me laugh. One of the tracksuit mafia people in the midst of the fight was even like yeah talk to my girlfriend do you want to write i got her maroon five tickets instead it's a good line um yelena shows up on the ice now to fight clint maya shows up to fight kazi he knows this pretty much right away eleanor tries to escape and kingpin stops her he fucking rips that door away.

And that's a big, oh shit moment for me where I'm like, okay, this Kingpin is kind of like the one we know. And Kate fights him in FAO Schwartz. She, Maya stabs Kazi. Again, she kind of like reversed Jon Snow's him. Jon Snow does a little stabbing last season. She fucking stabs Kazi. He had that coming.

Eleanor hits Kingpin with a car. He winds up being okay he gets up after that kate blows him up with the arrows that were deemed too dangerous um by clint and she gets her mother arrested her mother's like is this what a hero does on christmas big c word move and she basically she doesn't say this but with her eyes she's like yeah that's exactly what a fucking hero does she says she says like i'm sorry mom but she gets her mother arrested as she should be for the murder of armand uh and a bunch of other criminal activity i assume i thought we were gonna get the mask remember we said are we getting the hawkeye mask we didn't get the hawkeye mask i thought i

was trying i thought she was gonna say like oh you wore it but you didn't wear the mask that would have been funny um the fucking the trick arrows i was trying to figure out what it is in the human brain and it's just like the unknown it's like opening gifts on christmas or like the unboxing unboxing videos right yeah it's like oh my god that's what it is i fucking just loved it uh there was like the slow-mo team of battle scene that was like awesome back to back yeah he's cool uh kate your kate your mom just came out the side door that sounds like an old school diss and it sounds very dirty i don't know what it means i was trying to figure out what the punchline could be but i thought

that was fucked up um kingpin going uh mind your own business as he's trying to kill her mom what the fuck is going on here and then cold-blooded the coin flip the coin flip fucking comes in the basement boys are hot we're calling this shit um we're writing this show for you people out there i can't believe we fucking i mean they they played it on pretty thick i that wasn't too long of a too big of a jump but but it was like i was happy to see it happen still yes they set it up well um i love the thought of like an entire episode where Yelena just kicks the shit out of Clint. Like it was like they go to the next episode and she just keeps beating him and then like the credits roll. And then like we have the finale after that.

That would have been great. And then I kind of wish Kevin McAllister arrested his mom on Christmas. Like he like calls the police and then they're like, that's the bitch that left me home. Watch that like two hours ago, by the way, the annual home alone watching. It was great. As it always is.

The there's, there's like always a point of me, like halfway through the movies where I get said that I'm done with that movie for the, cause it's like, that means Christmas is coming close to being over. And last night was a home alone and I was having a little post booster, uh,

like sickness. So I kind of was in and out of the entire home alone watch. So we have crucifixion and diehard left in the Casa de Clem for the adult movies. And, uh, those are the two, those are our set up man and our closer this year,

just the way it worked out in terms of timing. So I might do both of those as well. We'll see. I'm definitely going to do how to die hard. I always do die hard. Hell yeah. And chief chief just watched the other day after my appearance on um dog walk dog walk the draft and we're getting all these people who are like you know what after you guys were talking about it i'm watching diet for the first time so these people are 29 30 years old first time watching die hard and everyone who i've like give me the review

they're like oh my god it's fucking awesome greatest action movie ever i'm like yes let's go i just interviewed this wrestler dan hausen and i recommended it to him he's never seen diehard i was like okay you have to go back and watch diehard he said he's seen diehard with vengeance 17 times but he's never seen the first one that's and i always say to people one three two those are – that's the order, at least for me. And 4, 5, you can keep – It's like 1, gap, 3, big gap, 2 in my mind. Yes, and then we don't acknowledge 4 or 5. No, we acknowledge 4 as Kevin Smith. I like 4. It's got Kevin Smith in it.

Boba Fett, Stan D, he's got – it's basically like my mom's basement. He lives in like his mom's basement. That's true. So we acknowledge 4 on this podcast. Half of this podcast acknowledges 4. Hawkeye convinces yelena though that he is not the one that killed her sister that her sister did make a noble sacrifice by doing the whistle and this is a scene that reminded me of a scene from dc that people hate and it's the martha scene for batman versus superman and i don't even like i think that scene is silly i don't hate it this scene was done in a much better manner where it's not like our mothers are both named martha

why did you say that name he did the secret whistle from hawkeye that from black widow that we saw them do his kids she's like how do you know that he tells her and she kind of breaks down she leaves kingpin escapes but he's cornered by maya and you think you going to see the last of them when they just show like he's not there. And they're like, he got away. You're like, oh, that's the perfect criminal escape. But you actually do see him stumble away. Maya corners him in an alley. And we're led to believe that she shoots him in the face.

She pulls a gun on him. He's like, no, Maya, we're family. What are you doing? They pan up and she shoots. I think, and I think jeff d low thinks as well because we talked about this she probably shot over her shoulder right you hear gunshot so you know she shot i don't think we were seeing the last of kingpin i don't think they brought that character in for one episode of hawkeye i think she's gonna shoot over her shoulder and

that's how echo is gonna begin and she's gonna like cry or something and be like i'm sorry i couldn't do it because she you know she's known him since she was a kid she can't go through with it and maybe that's why she's a hero now all right i'm gonna throw the clem uh conspiracy theory out there because i was thinking i my my note was if kingpin's dead i'm out on the mcu i know that this is something that i love i know it's something that is now part of my job basically but i'm fucking out because you don't just like tease this guy and then just wipe him off especially like off scene but since it happened off screen obviously you know no one dies off screen basically right yeah this is my theory my theory is that he shoots her in this like his cane is a gun or he fucking pulls something out or someone else shoots and that's why she ends up with the echo mask.

I like that. So that's, you know, that bodyguard, he's got an into the spider verse kind of looks like a blue, like Frankenstein. I don't know his name, but imagine he has like that kind of a sidekick.

That would be kind of sick. That'd be sweet. Comes out of the shadows and shoots her first shooting chicks in the face. That's his fucking thing. This is like his fucking signature move. And people were saying there's's there had to have been some reshoots in the finale which isn't a big deal there's reshoots for everything but maya there were photos of her on set with the handprint on her face with like a white handprint which is a big part of her character echo so maybe i would assume when they realized all right we're gonna make a show out of echo she's gonna get her

own show they're probably like that's going to get her own show. They were probably like, that's a moment worth saving for maybe the first episode of that. But I just thought that was interesting enough to bring up. Well, that was kind of my thinking too, is when she gets shot, she would have some sort of like, it would be like the hand mark. You know what I mean? I didn't realize that they had that originally in the scenes. There's like a behind the scenes photo of her with Jeremy Renner and she's got the makeup on with the handprint okay i dig it um i like how they basically had to like recap black widow and the people who had who didn't see black widow were

clueless what the fuck was going on so basically elena and natalia uh the nat? Natalia? Natasha. Natasha. What was it? Did they say Natalia? Yelena and Natasha. Yelena and Natasha. They have that whistle or whatever. They have like they leave through time. I don't see fucking Blackwood. I'm not gonna explain the whole thing to you. It's on Disney Plus now. It's worth watching. It's not that

bad. Tough look for the NYPD too. Not showing up that entire time. Fucking Rockefeller Center is under attack. And these people are fighting on the ice. There's explosions. And not one police officer. What's going on? Maybe they defunded the police.

They defunded them. I don't know. I guess so. Yeah, once the superheroes started to arise. This is when Jack gets invited to go in with the LARPers. He accepts their invite. I think he accepts their invite. Or they cut away before he does.

But he's like, whoa, LARPing? What's LARPing? He hasn't heard of it. And then I think they cut away. Kate goes home with Clint for the holidays and we get our happy ending. Clint makes it home for Christmas. He gives the watch back to Laura. It was her watch and it's got a little shield logo on the back. It's shield, uh, agent 19, which is apparentlyockingbird from the comics. So Laura Barton, possibly a superhero past, future of herself there. We knew there was something more to that watch. We finally got it revealed here. And honestly, this show also showed me that Clint and Laura Barton are one of my favorite MCU couples.

She ain't ride or die. She's ride or die or motherfucking kill people if she has to. If she doesn't care, I'll tell ride or die or motherfucking kill people she has to she doesn't care i'll tell you what about laura barton too the fact that clint comes home with a 20 something from fucking new york a little girl from new york a chick and a golden retriever like bringing a dog into the house that's not used to that and fucking this smile i'll tell you i got a little bit of swinger by laura barton i'm not gonna lie to lie to you. I fucking – I love her. I think she might be like my new favorite fucking character in this show just because she just doesn't give a fuck.

She has the – obviously she has the S.H.I.E.L.D. background now. I just loved it all. And again, not only did Clint make it home, we got snow on Christmas. The kids must have been going nuts my take is is a snow on christmas day is like the worst thing in the world for the people that are traveling or have you know different things they have to do on christmas but like the people who don't leave their house the entire day it's like the coolest thing ever oh yeah i just love how that always works out it's like it's like oh we got you know six inches of snow we get to play with our presents and go outside and it's like and 150 000 people didn't

get to see their relatives because all the flights got canceled. Yeah. But I was, I was happy for the kids, obviously. And again, Laura Barton fucking ride or die, man. Love that. And then to end the show, we get them burning the Ronin suit. They throw it on the barbecue. Thousand gasoline.

This is finally buried and done. And they're about to, he's about to give kate the name hawkeye essentially she's like hey what do you think about hockey what do you think about she starts pitching like these hawkeye names that are no good and he's like i have an idea and they show us the screen hawkeye almost like falcon and the winter soldier you know at the end of that was like captain america and the winter soldier like this character is becoming this title and we got a great mid-credit scene which was just the full version of i can do this all day from rogers the musical and man they went fucking all in on recording this when i saw how long we had left in the episode i'm like holy shit we're gonna have

like seven points be like guardians basically right it was just one long musical number that was that was outrageous it was fun though and it was fun because too it said happy holidays from marvel studios it was just an end of the year silly like hey we put out more content than fucking reeks did on the blog this year so here's here's a fun little silly thing i like that that's a good that's a good way to put it when they when i wrote down the names too lady hawk hawk eve hawk shot and lady arrow those were her four names and they all got shot down um i also feel like they uh they lingered on the target when he calls his daughter hawkeye like i feel like yeah they did so i was like oh and then from endgame yeah yeah and they said when like hawkeye just comes in like yeah they did so i was like oh and then yeah from end game yeah yeah and they said when like hawkeye just comes in also the ronin not having a flame retardant

suit granted even with gasoline i'm like dude what the fuck are you doing like you figure at some point some like bad guys everyone has fucking blow torches and flamethrowers you would think in terms of like super villain world so i was shocked he did that but great point that's why that's why we got you on the podcast because if i were a superhero i wouldn't think of that you would have to be like robby robby flame retardant come on frame retardant right i mean i mean it's also i mean we have mando season coming back up now with a bubble fat like i know blowtorch away now we're gonna have an episode that i was gonna say this the last episode of the year but it's not we might be doing an in-person episode actually for that because i think we're both going to be in arizona

for the arizona bowl yeah it comes out i think the day we're both the one day we're both there together so we'll have to figure out a time either that day or the next day before i leave we can do it but yeah i think we're gonna have an episode on new year's eve christmas eve and new year's eve the my mom's basement listeners no there's no off season for this nerd shit no off season um so instead of a christmas top, we're going to do top three moments from the show. But before we do that, how about I throw it over to our sponsor, HelloFresh. If you want to make a great Christmas dinner,

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members of the basement get that one man yeah um let's rank our top three moments and also our favorite marvel shows of the year now that the the year's over, we've seen all the Marvel shows that they've put out. We've got all four of the live-action ones. The first one was WandaVision. Then it was Falcon and Winter Soldier. Then it was Loki. Then it was What If, the cartoon one. And then it was Hawkeye.

We'll rank those first, and then we'll do our top three moments. So for me, I figure we'll just read off our rankings. Yes. first and then we'll do our top three moments so for me i figure we'll just read off our rankings uh number five a show that i honestly really enjoyed throughout and that says something about my list like it's the worst on my list but don't get me wrong i didn't dislike this by any means is what if i just thought it being a cartoon loses a little bit of a step loses a level of investment for me next i would go falcon and the winter soldier another show that i really liked uh zemo i thought you know was better than that better than that than we've ever seen him i liked anthony mackie's journey to captain america i love

the isaiah bradley stuff that's like probably my favorite stuff from that show um hawkeye's next for me right in the middle um a show that honestly like i really really enjoyed hawkeye so like the the two ahead of it had to be really damn good to be ahead of it and they were number two for me wandavision the first exposure to marvel tv we had the first uh experience with speculating on this stuff week to week on my mom's basement a game changer from my mom's basement gets the lifetime achievement award right away for just changing our game was that where the sus list was born was that that was the sus list that was where it was born because i heard by thank who unfortunately wasn't sus i'm oh like talking about people that i was

wrong on her was the first and like maybe the worst. Well, I think we loved Herb because of his name. We were like, yeah, you need a Herb in your group. But then he started getting sus on us. Yeah, that was tough. And number one is Loki for me. We talked a lot about Loki on this show. It introduced Kang. I think it's going to be the biggest like future like relevancy show. Like this one is. Yeah, this one has the most impact on the future. W relevancy show.

Like this one is, yeah, this one has the most impact on the future. WandaVision, don't get me wrong. He's going to have a lot. We saw from the Dr. Strange trailer,

like she's going to be going after those fucking kids, but Loki just, it, it, it landed the, landed the plane better for me at the ending, you know? Yep.

No, I, our lists are actually pretty similar. I, they're, they're almost the same, except so I have Falcon and winter soldier fifth. I forgot about Zemo.

He might've gotten moved up if I had remembered some of the Zemo phone we had. But there was, there was just some, like, I think there, I remember we said like, it felt like it could have either, it should have went either a couple of episodes longer or a couple of episodes shorter. I think they kind of were in the middle of that. What if was four? And I think it's probably closer to five than it is to three for me because it was a cartoon and i love the ideas of the there was that's the thing is these are all they all have passing grades in my book right yeah it passed and this was our first experience with marvel tv

yeah there wasn't one bad show yeah i agree um what if it was obviously it was like kind of just some fun summertime viewing and uh i actually didn't like that they started all uh you know and i guess light spoilers for if you haven't seen these shows yet but uh like the what if like the fact that they started all coming together than that last episode i didn't really like that i liked when it was all kind of like one offsets that's how I thought it was going to be. Three, again, Hawkeye, same as you. I think the Christmas angle, I think Jose putting our expectations properly in the right place.

Shout out Jose, an MVP of the basement this year. Yeah, Jose, I think Jose's probably the MVP of the basement. He has a few appearances, and he fucking knocked every single one out of the park. Two, WandaVision. Same thing you said. WandaVision, because the excitement with WandaVision, it was the first

one. It was when the pandemic was still fresher. It's never ending, so it's still here. But it was like, it was the one thing to look forward to and then there was so much shit going on, it kind of got the brain moving for the first time in a while. But I will say those first few black and white episodes, they did crawl. And there were – that was the fucking – not only the birth of the Susslist, the birth for the hunt of Mephisto that has still not come to fruition for us.

It's like the hunt of the Jersey Devil in New Jersey. Oh, man. Yeah. I know about the Jersey Devil. My buddy is convinced he saw him. Shout out my boy Mikey Prano. I think everyone knows somebody who's like, oh, yeah, I saw the Jersey Devil one night. The WandaVision – because we talk about a lot of the superhero shit.

The Quicksilver stuff was cool even if it kind of pissed some people off with the Ralph Boreham reveal. But even the throwback to the sitcom stuff where it was like you had the family ties. You had the Malcolm in the Middle stuff. You had the laugh track. It kind of just gave you those nostalgia pangs which i mean obviously i love and then number one like you said was loki uh it does feel like it has more of an impact on us we get to meet you know the man who will be known as kang we have uh you know that had a lot of crazy sus list and you know weird, weird shit, twists and turns.

And, like, Loki Gator. I mean, how could you go wrong with Loki Gator? The whole episode. Yeah, all the different Lokis when they fight the big smoke monster. Old Loki goes out in style. Our friend Michael Waldron came on the podcast to talk about it a few times. So we got, like, that personal connection, too. I mean, I was Loki for Halloween. That was awesome.

Yep, yep. You and Lady Fox were the Lokis. It was awesome. Yeah. So we're on the same page there. personal connection too i mean i was loki for halloween yep yep you and lady fox are awesome yeah so all right we're on the same page there it's just we really are yeah you know what that that's what we'll do everyone in the comments let us give us give us your top five for marvel shows and then your top three if you can moments from hawkeye that we're going to go through now so i said to you right before we started recording like hawkeye that we're going to go through now. So I said to you right before we started recording, like Hawkeye is a tough show to come up with your top three moments for, not because there weren't a lot of great moments,

but because this wasn't like a moment show. It was a character building show. Let's introduce these characters. So I have three that can kind of go in and out. My third one, I'll just go three, two, one. Then you go your three, two, one. My just go three two one you then you go you're three two one my three is rogers the musical from the first episode and then i guess you could kind of throw in like the mid-credits scene in there as well mine too the thought of this is so funny that

thanos was right in the urinal like when he clint sees it when he turns off his uh hearing aid when he says ant-man wasn't there like everything everything about this, I felt like they nailed. So this is your number three as well? Yeah, yeah, it was my number three as well. We're on this fucking same page. Fucking Basic Boy's share brain right now. I love it. I will say that even though I did it,

like I had fun watching the mid credits and it was long and I was like, ah, it's fun and the lyrics are good. You know, I think AJ was actually happened to come downstairs as I was watching it. And he was like, what the fuck is like, the lyrics are good. I think AJ actually happened to come downstairs as I was watching it, and he was like, what the fuck is going on? Why are they doing this thing right now?

He was so confused. I will say that I was hoping for a post-credits. That was my one nitpick, is I was hoping for a post-credits with some sort of a tie into anything that had happened in Spider-Man. I was looking for something more there. Didn't get it, unfortunately, but whatever.

But the Rogers, the two of them combined i think is a fair number three i'm with you there yeah my number two is uh the trick arrow chase the first uh when you know they got to do the cool camera angle when it was going all around and eventually they send up the pim arrow make it gigantic the whole communication between clint and kate during this when clint can't hear what she's saying but they kind of get on the same page by the end of it like you and i with the unimind here um the the trick arrow chase and just the first exposure to it all the trees going into the um trust a bro truck all of the tracksuit mafia guys reacting to the trick arrows beautifully

done action sequence and again that's some this is coming from someone that doesn't like car chase scenes i love that one and that was it because it didn't feel like a a regular one like you said the remember the way they shot it the and then again i'm a fucking addicted to trick arrows and this was this was actually my my my first off the list this was also receiving votes this was number four so and the only reason is two and one and my one could probably be like bumped down but that this would be my you know top two or three if i had moved my number one down so what's your number one my number one is is a simple one and it's just you know what it was me and columbian right it was the kingpin reveal at the end of episode five it was clint's delivery of that like i said last week when he's

like well that's the guy we've been worried about this whole time kingpin when they show it finally come on kingpin enters the mcu the what that means for everything this happened you know before certain movies so it's the first inner introduction of netflix and mcu connecting this is huge this is my number one so the unimind is working well today that was my number one as well and it's basically because the basic boys were finally right we sussed the shit out of poor herb and now the shit out of sparky we sussed the shit out of uh yuri i believe his name was and yeah we finally got one right we threw i mean if it turned out like eleanor bishop was like a uh you know orphan widow who like tried to do right by her kid yeah so the fact that we were right we got the the grinch song right afterwards we get the reveal

of kingpin so you're hyped that there's the new character let alone one of like i'd say i feel like he's like one of the cornerstone villains of marvel in general right spider-man especially like yeah that's like growing up you just know from the cartoon we know from into the spider-verse now we know from the spider-man video game the comics like i think about him and spider-man connected all the time like i said i'm really hoping that he sticks around then we get to see like spider-man a daredevil versus kingpin and the next spider-man yep me too me too so uh so yeah we're on the same page there and the only one i had that was sandwiched in the middle that the trick arrows could have been there instead but i loved basically the introduction to kate where it's new york 2012 and you're seeing how she gets into this and falls in love with hawkeye that would have been my four yeah yeah so i when you

said and you said it right before the party like let's get our top three and the fact those just stuck out to us i feel like those are going to be a good amount of people's i'll be interested to see the comments see what other people said but i mean those are fucking those are money scenes and to get all that from you know a christmas show that we had probably, you know, basement bottom expectations going into. I think that's a win for the series. I would say Hawkeye delightfully expected or exceeded my expectations. Yes. One nitpick, another nitpick I'm going to have.

I thought we were going to get more Pizza Dog. And you know what? Like maybe it's better they didn't make Pizza Dog too much. Like it's like, all right, the dog doesn't need to be in every scene. It might have been the perfect amount. I hope he's living with the Bartons. I hope they cut back to the Bartons at some point and we get to see – what was his name? They gave him a name, right?

Lucky. Lucky the Pizza Dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's always been Pizza Dog. They left us wanting more of Lucky. Yeah, and that's hard to do with a dog. Usually the dog just gets beat over your head. Nope, they nailed it.

Yeah, I'm excited to see where this story goes in echo. I think these are good characters. I want to see more of Yelena and Kate interact in the future. Like we said in a previous recap, like, all right, you need the Hawkeye and Black Widow of the future. Well,

you got them and they might have as good chemistry as Jeremy Renner and Scarlett Johansson. They're like really fantastic together. I want to see more Kingpin. I want to see Kingpin in a Balls beachwear shirt. We're going to have to get on one of those. Like we said, 2022, that's resolution number one for My Mom's Basement.

And the next time we talk to you guys, it's going to be for the book of Boba Fett, which I am so excited for. When you hear that all we've seen is from the opening of episode one, because anything else would be too big a spoiler. Holy shit. What does that mean?

Does that mean Bosk? Does that mean Dengar? Does that mean Cad Bane? Does that mean, I don't know who are the bounty hunters, Cobb Vanth? Does that mean Mando? Does that mean baby Yoda?

Does that mean baby Wookiee? Fuck Bob. You're like, you're saying that means he's going to draw on the armor from the Star Wars Holiday Special? Bob, three of those names could have been made up. I would have had no idea. That's just where we're going to be in terms of with this one, if we're going

back to some older stuff, because I feel like Boba, there's going to be some familiar faces. I think I got a Boba thing around here somewhere, too. Where's my Boba thing? Oh, wait. Look, I could hold it up. Check it out. It's Boba in his new armor. i could hold it up check it out it's boba and his new armor custom youtube if you want to see it oh yep that's dope pretty fucking sick also got it i also got a shout out the listeners that left reviews our boy sunny night he left it on spotify he told us spotify now does reviews which i don't use spotify i didn't know that

wasn't a thing so i heard that Spotify surpassed iTunes now. More people listen to podcasts on Spotify than Apple overall, which is crazy to me. But if you're one of those people that listens to my mom's basement on Spotify, yeah, please leave a review because we would love to grow on that platform as well. Yeah. And then I got a shout out. This was on iTunes. I went to Spotify to get all the Spotify reviews and I couldn't figure out where the reviews were. So I felt like a fucking dinosaur. Maybe I don't have Spotify. I don't really use Spotify.

I was just going on like the web browser, but on iTunes, we had C McCarthy, 16 McFlurry, seven 27 cousin, Keeves gamer, 23 send Mike from prison, which was an awesome name.

Big cat, six 27. So, you know, Dan cats listening to the pod. Love that. Thanks, man.

Gourney five 40. I know him from Twitter. And then Natalie cause I'm moving over from Twitter as well. uh big cat 627 so you know dan katz uh listening to the pod love that thanks dan gorney 540 i know him from twitter and then natalie kaiser living over from twitter as well so everyone give him five star reviews much appreciated need we need thank you we're gonna have to talk to the podcast team next we're gonna talk to mikey podcast talk spotify strategy for 2022 we're showing up in suits looking like uh looking like uh hope fiction like john Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson. I'm only wearing white suits for now, and I'm wearing white suits and balls beachwear. I'm going Cane Pin style. And a cane.

Oh, I can use a cane now? The fedora? The white fedora as well? The matching fedora? Yeah. Except I'm going to have spaghetti sauce stains on it because I stain everything when I have white. All right. Merry Christmas, everybody. We will catch you on New Year's Eve for a Book of Boba Fett premiere recap.

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