My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 18 - SAN DIEGO COMIC CON 2019 (& MARVEL PHASE 4 PANEL) RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: July 22, 2019

Robbie and Clem break down all of San Diego Comic Con's biggest reveals and announcements, talk about what they're the most pumped about, and dive deep into Marvel's Phase 4 Panel in particular, where they rank each Phase 4 title in order of how excited they are for ‘em. Stick around till the end of the pod to hear a major announcement about Clem's next appearance in The Basement! Follow Clem on Twitter... -@TheClemReportYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I mean, we're bringing nerd representation to the world out here. I mean, we could bring it from – I think what happens is they see Barstool Sports, and I think they see sports, and they're like, the fucking jocks are coming to shut this thing down. No way. You're not getting past us this time, Buster Rue.

I don't want to get shoved in a locker. We're the two biggest nerds in the world. Now, as the biggest nerds in the world, we had some celebrating to do over the weekend because Clem Cameron has been terminated, buddy. It's over. It's over. It's over. I'm a beast of a motherfucker.

You and that goddamn awful movie are off the map. I don't even think it's awful. That's the best part. I think Avatar is a good movie. But fuck it. Fuck it. it fuck it and fuck James Cameron fuck him for saying superhero fatigue was going to happen fuck him for saying he hopes people are going to get tired of the Avengers soon like

rooting for the demise of another franchise so your fucking blue sex tale alien franchise can go off he skyped in by the way to San Diego Comic Con to talk about the new Terminator movie he skyped in from the set of his Avatar sequel. James, you couldn't put it on hold for fucking San Diego Comic-Con, you dickhead. You know what?

I do take it back. Avatar was – it was a technological masterpiece, we'll say. It was very formulaic. Like the unobtainium is one of the most hilarious, like unintentional things ever. I know. But like, yo, we don't need any more terminator movies james when i reference terminator in my blogs i'm like this is a pretty fucking dated reference and i'm a blogger like who is like the nostalgic blogger for barstool like we're we're superheroes we're turning into there's plenty of superhero juice left

terminator i think we could probably pull the plug on that one we could pull the plug on terminator and we could already pull the plug on avatar like. We could pull the plug on Terminator, and we could already pull the plug on Avatar. Like you said, it was a great movie. It was revolutionary, but it was formulaic. It was Pocahontas. And we don't need to see Pocahontas 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6, especially not throughout 2027. It was a joyous moment because as soon as the Marvel panel started, and we'll talk about the Marvel. We're going to save that for the end. We're going to recap a few other things that happened at San Diego Comic-Con this year.

But as soon as the Marvel panel started, Kevin Feige came out on stage and said hey in a matter of days we are going to beat avatar and i saw that tweet pop up on my timeline and i was blown away because we've been told it's over like many times even after the re-release it was like yeah you only got half of what you needed so we were talking about even oh we need like uh an award season re-release or an infinity War into Endgame re-release. We didn't need that apparently because as soon as he said that, the Hollywood Reporter and Variety and all these business sites reported that it already happened somehow. And I think – listen, I'm all for foul play being involved. So I'm not saying this to disparage Marvel.

I think foul play was involved. We were so many millions of dollars away. I think Bob Iger eiger was like oh i'm about to hit a fucking t-shirt bonus let me buy a couple t-shirts you know what i'm saying i think bob eiger might have thrown in the last couple million dollars because it was chump change to him but what was the slogan for terminate cameron whatever it takes if it takes bob eiger throwing a couple milli at it it takes bob eiger throwing a couple milli at it and that takes Bob Iger throwing a couple milli at it. And that's why we love Bob Iger. There might have been a few theaters that were just empty.

Like Bob just rented them out and just like play Avengers. This counts. I bought every single seat in the fucking theater. Play it. And yeah, it 100 percent counts. And you said it best. You said you go, Clem, I feel like I like one of my teams just won a championship. And like as like as someone that may not see one of those again for the rest of my life, the way my teams are going, it sure as shit felt like it.

And this is – I honestly like – partially because I mean I love Endgame. I love the last phase of Marvel. I love the way it all together. But this is what the number one movie of all time should be. It should be the perfect wrap-up. We've talked about it. I mean if you haven't listened to the Endgame podcast, we did. It's one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done at Barstool.

They nailed the landing of a huge franchise that was more than a decade long. It was a billion movies they did. And it was the perfect fucking movie to wrap that all up to end a saga instead of some formulaic, albeit like incredible viewing masterpiece. But it was a crap. But also like even a bit of a gimmicky viewing. It was all about all about 3d and that was the sign of the times or whatever and then 3d it's already over like movies don't even always release in 3d anymore because nobody wants to see that shit yep yep so it definitely felt like it definitely felt like a win man it felt like a win for us shout out to everyone with the hashtag terminate camera movement yeah we thank you guys

people people were tweeting us like i went five times i I know it feels like a win. I'm like, I got people tweeting me saying the only reason I went back is because of that podcast you guys did telling me to go back. So if you did that, especially thank you. Thanks for taking our word and Marvel. We'd like to see some commission coming up soon. We'll continue to give you guys money, but it would be nice to make a little back. Now we're going to talk. Let me just give a message there bobby i give a message to bobby i you're throwing millions of dollars to rent theaters out throw a couple dollars to barstool maybe invest in us i don't think you know if you talk to the people at espn they would say don't buy us because we have a little bit of a rivalry there but comic-con people we get butts in the seats that's what barstool does we get

asses in the seats we get popcorn sold we get whatever you need sold we might even dress up as some cosplay we've done that at the star wars convention in the past fucking let us live baby give us some fucking credentials man come on we just want to show up to comic-con and have fun with the nerds which we do it like star wars celebration they're awesome to us star wars celebration welcomes us with open arms we make videos where i'm talking about coming myself they don't give a shit they're like like, yeah, talk about coming yourself. We love it. Bob liked the last Star Wars and it was the worst movie ever. Oh, come on. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I had to get that dig in.

Oh, no Last Jedi slander on this podcast. Come on, come on, come on. So let's start with Star Wars since we just touched on it. Star Wars didn't do much at this Comic-Con. They're saving everything for D23, The Mandalorian, and Episode IX. But what they did premiere was the Sith Trooper from Rise of Skywalker. This is a red stormtrooper. It's like blood red

and pretty much the color of the Emperor's Guards, which I believe is what these Sith Troopers are. I think they are troopers to protect a Sith Lord. Who is a Sith Lord? Not Snoke. It was made clear he's never a Sith. Not Kylo Ren. The Emperor. The Emperor is a Sith Lord. We know he's coming back for Episode 9. I think these are the new evolved versions of that. They've got a lot of

cool little designs on it. Like the knees are mismatched, which is a throwback to the original Stormtrooper design from A New Hope. The face is a little like slanted and it looks a bit like a Death Trooper from Rogue One. And there's a bunch of ridges on all of the armor that look like Praetorian Guard armor. Clem, what did you think of the Sith Trooper? I liked the Sith Trooper. I thought it was cool. This is coming back to the coming yourself line again. Like, Bob, I think

you came yourself when you saw it. I was like, oh, that's pretty neat. That's a nice looking part. Oh yeah, we were actually together when we saw it. It was really together, and you're like, I gotta blog this, I gotta do this, I gotta do that, and I went, oh, that's cool. It just kind of shows kind of the yin and the yang of where we are with that, but I will say're like, I got to blog this. I got to do this. I got that. And I went, oh, that's cool. It just kind of shows kind of the yin and the yang of where we are with that. But I will say like it definitely I feel like they did that on purpose because it was their way of confirming the emperor will be in it without actually saying the emperor is going to be in it by showing that red. That's Emperor Red.

That's like put that in the fucking Crayola. Put that in your crotch. Emperor Red. Yeah. And the fact that it's called a Sith Trooper. Like, the only real time I think we've heard that said in the new trilogy, and I could be wrong on this, is when Luke Skywalker

in The Last Jedi says to Rey, like, the Jedi and the Sith, and he says Darth, not Darth Plagueis, he says Darth Sidious in that one scene. I think he might mention the Sith there. Other than that, it's not really mentioned. But yeah, there's not much to talk about. They already released a fuck ton of merchandise for the sith trooper as expected they went full space balls the flamethrower on it and you can buy yourself a sith trooper tiki mug if you'd like it uh the one piece of merchandise that

i did love other than like the giant hot toys replica which is literally like it's like a statue basically um is the black series Hasbro figure of it. It comes with a bunch of weapons, some that look like Praetorian Guard weapons, some that look like flamethrowers. It's a very cool figure. So I'm actually – I already reached out to Hasbro, and I was like, I need it. I need my hands on one of those figures, guys. Up next, View Askew is back. Full force, my boy Kevin Smith.

He fucking survives this heart attack and what's the first thing he does he said the only thing on the deathbed he regretted was not making james bob reboot because it's the movie he wants to make the most we finally got a trailer and clem you want to talk about me coming myself me watching this trailer was like me watching the trailer for endgame or star wars it is that important to me. It's literally on the Star Wars, Marvel, whatever level. And I dissected this with a blog, a 1300 word blog. But basically, you start off, we're at the quick stop RST, Jay and Silent Bob have appeared to convert the RST video into a place called a cocksmoker, which is they make baked chicken

sandwiches. Just pun city right there. Pun city. You got to love it. And they're retelling the story of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back in a bit of a meta fourth wall way, making fun of reboot culture. The entire movie is about them trying to reboot Bluntman and Chronic, making Chronic Melissa Benoist, who plays Supergirl, a female character becoming more with the times, and Val Kilmer is playing Bluntman which is just fucking crazy like Batman is now playing Kevin Smith's uh you know fictional superhero based off of Batman that's kind of insane Jason Lee's back

everyone's back most importantly Ben fucking Affleck and Matt Damon are back in this movie this was mind-blowing som, I don't know how familiar you are with the whole Kevin Smith-Ben Affleck relationship, but once Affleck got married to Jennifer Gardner, their friendship completely fizzled out. Kevin Smith has said Jennifer Gardner doesn't really like him. I think they worked together on Catch and Release. For whatever reason, she's the only person on the planet that doesn't like Kevin Smith. Oh, that breaks my heart. I love Jennifer Garner. She's still in those commercials. And I'm like, she's like, I nominated her in my brain. I think I said, I think she's the new America's sweetheart. Like if you were to nominate someone as America's sweetheart,

it's Jennifer Garner. And you know what? I don't know if I could do that. If she was like Kevin Smith, because you have to like Kevin Smith. Everyone likes Kevin Smith, man. He's America's sweetheart. So they didn't talk for a while and people would ask kevin about it all the time being you know they were like best buds in the beginning of their career kevin smith kind of put ben affleck on kevin smith was responsible for getting goodwill hunting you know pushed forward and made in these massive ways for ben affleck's career so for them to not talk and never reference each other ever again people were asking questions and kevin smith responded with a very kevin smith response where he was like you know what it was probably my fault i probably told too many stories back in the day and ben didn't like me for that and i have to respect that when triple frontier

is coming out uh ben affleck's netflix movie which i would recommend to the listeners i thought it was a blast of a movie oscar isaac is in it as well if you're a star wars fan kevin mccarthy a movie reporter said hey have they called you movie reporter, said, hey, have they called you for a reboot yet? He was doing media. He said, have they called you for a reboot yet? And Ben Affleck was like, no, but I'd be very open to it. And Kevin Smith shot him a text and wrote in an eight-page scene for Ben Affleck, he said, that wasn't originally in the movie. So we're going to get pretty decent screen time for Ben Affleck in this movie. It warmed my fucking heart. And when I read Kevin Smith's Instagram post about that, I cried. I did did i'm just putting it all out on the table i cried this trailer made me so goddamn

happy literally the entire thing is like callbacks to other view askew movies and i said this is view askew's endgame this is everyone's coming back even chris hemsworth is in the movie rosario dawson is back fucking red man and method man are reprising their roles from how high to be in this like we're getting the entire stoner i mean uh tommy chong is in it as well the entire stoner universe is crossing over and nobody's talked about this tommy chong i think his role in this movie he's going to be the alfred to val kilmer's blunt man the clip in the trailer um i promise you that's his role uh I can't fucking wait for this movie. So what they're doing, they're taking it on tour in September.

So you could like when they come to your city, you could go see the movie. Kevin Smith and Jason Mewes are going to do a Q&A afterwards. And then on October 17th, it will release nationwide in all theaters just for one night only. And then on October 19th, they're doing a back-to-back of Strike Back into Reboot. And that will be the only time you could see it. I'd recommend going to the roadshow, they're calling it. I did that for their cartoon movie, and it was a blast. It's like a cool experience seeing it with a bunch of Kevin Smith fans.

It's basically like going to see The Avengers on opening night. Everyone's going to understand every joke. You're all in it together, and you're all probably incapable of not liking it, even if it sucks. Because with that amount of cameos and callbacks, I'm just going to be like – it's going to be a nostalgia overload. I'm not even going to know what to do. You actually said you're a big View Askew guy yourself. So what did you think of the trailer? Yeah. You asked me.

You said, hey, you want to talk some reboot? And I was like, oh, I'm a big View Askew guy. I mean I don't wear it on my sleeve but you'll – I'll do – I'll have some, again have some some again like nostalgia old school dated reference shit like i'll throw some mall rats in there some clerks um first of all i'm just gonna get this out in the open now because we have a good friendship if you ever meet a girl like jennifer garner and it hurts our relationship and i don't hear from you i fully understand and i if it's jennifer i would never let it happen i would never let it happen if i marry jennifer garner and she's, Clem needs to fucking hit the road, I'm like, you need to fucking hit the road.

That's my guy. Now I'm going to cry here. First of all, shout out to that reporter by asking the question, which made this all possible. That's incredible. And Kevin Smith personally pulled him aside at the Endgame premiere and told him that entire story and really thanked him, put up an entire Instagram post thanking him. I've actually been a big fan of his forever because people compare me to him because people throw the word shill at him.

He's just positive about every movie he sees, and that's why I like him. That's how I am. Fucking Kevin McCarthy, shout out to you. Come to your pod. I was actually – when I – I didn't even know there was – just to show you how disconnected I am, I didn't even know there was a reboot coming out. I knew there was going to be another movie coming out. i didn't know there was a reboot coming out or i i knew there was going to be another movie coming out i didn't know this was the theme of it yeah um all right so i'm gonna start with the bad first oh boy seeing everyone in this movie

made me feel old because let's be honest everyone looks old everyone does look old and especially kevin smith is now skinny silent pop has never been in a movie they all look pretty old say is wearing the face of a guy who's had some drug problems um you know and i mean i even you know not everyone here is like living that hollywood life so they probably had some real they live like the blogger life we do kind of where they're it ages them or whatever it is uh but that being said i just for anyone who doesn't who's not into this universe It's one of the rare Kevin Smith being a comic book guy

He appreciates everything in the universe And overlaps and characters in different movies Being related or you know Common stories between the two So I just cannot wait for this movie to come back I'm going in with Limited expectations because I'm not Robbiebie i'm not

the shill i always go in you know one eye open and whatever but it like i'm in for the roadshow we have to figure out the roadshow now i'm not from jersey i think if you're from jersey and you're you're you're more of a diehard comic book guy than i am and you're obviously more of a dire kevin smith's fan that puts you on the one% of the 1%. But I like to consider myself, you know, like top 10% of Kevin Smith's like casual fans. So I'm in for the roadshow. I cannot wait. I think it's an awesome idea. It's kind of like a barstool thing where it's like if you can't get like the big studios

to back you, you kind of do it your own way and let the fucking real ones come out. That's what he's been doing for years. And I love that about him so much. Even Tusk, which is a movie that a lot of people didn't love. I saw it three times in fucking theaters and even went to one of his roadshows for that because it was a movie that was based on a podcast he did and the fact that he got that made it was the first movie ever to be based on a podcast the fact that he got that made with like five million dollars it's like actually 824 like one of their first movies which they've become

a much bigger studio since but i i love the do-it-yourself aspect of Kevin Smith. And I've always said all of my shit is inspired by Kevin Smith. Like even the way I went about applying to get this job was inspired by Kevin Smith. I'm going to throw this idea out to you. You and me doing the roadshow dressed as Jay and Silent Bob. Are we going to reverse it where you're Bob and I'm Jay? Yeah, sure, sure. I wasn't even talking about that

the body types are too good we have to go stay in character i'm gonna have to i think i think we yeah we stick with it i'll be jay you be silent bob we'll get all the all the shit i'll get the snoogins hat i'll get a little wig it'll be fucking sweet we're gonna do that we're gonna do that it's gonna be incredible and i think i think it's maybe october so maybe we could double up do that for halloween too we'll see i gotta be skinny silent bob this is i'm gonna, I'm going to have to, I'm going to be skinny, skinny Silent Bob. I'm going to go out and reinvigorate the keto. We're going to go hard. No, this is my question to you. Favorite Kevin Smith movie. I want to hear this live on the podcast because I don't know if I know the answer to this. Favorite Kevin Smith movie. I don't know if I know the answer to this

Clem. Um, I'll say this. I think it's either Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back or Clerks 2. For some reason, I thought you had said in the past Clerks 2, but I'm not sure if you've got it. Clerks 2 is a movie that is so fucking funny to me. And like every single time I watch it, same with Strike Back, which we just watched the other night. Me and Trent, Trent hadn't seen it in years. And Trent's also a big VSQ guy. So he was dying. I mean, the world's viral shit. Trent's a big VSQ mean the world i mean he likes kevin smith yeah he's read kevin's book and everything so the all the chris rock shit in that movie all the will ferrell shit so fucking funny

but clerks 2 is the one that fucking gets me at the end it makes me cry who has that when they think when they pull back and they they've got soul asylum misery plan and the store goes to black and white whoo i could get choked up talking about it. That's a good one. Mine's Mallrats. Mallrats is – I mean – Yeah, fucking Mallrats is so good too though. Yeah.

I still remember. I think it was like one of my birthdays. A couple of my friends got me the DVD and I think all I had seen was Clerks at that point. And I saw it and I go, holy shit. Like that was like my aha moment and that's when I like fell in love and I went back. And I think at that point, Kevin Smith had already had a couple of other movies out, went back to chasing Amy and all that other shit.

And then went for, and then from there on, I was a diehard from there on out. Mallrats. I mean, I'm just like, I'm thinking of like the, the dating game and the NHL 94. It doesn't get better than the Stan Lee scene. And he's back to Brody's back in the, I mean, there's a lot of good

cameos they withheld i think they had to throw a bunch at you but i think there's gonna be a withheld a ton and there is a rumor so they said there are three batmen in the movie so val kilmer ben affleck and then they've withheld the third batman some people think it might uh be kevin conroy like animated batman because he was involved in yoga hosers some people think it's fucking christian bale i mean there could be endless cameos because when kevin smith has a be Kevin Conroy, like animated Batman, because he was involved in Yoga Hosers. Some people think it's fucking Christian Bale. I mean, there could be endless cameos because when Kevin Smith has a heart attack and he calls you and says, hey, I'm doing my movie, I think everyone is just like, dude, we're so happy you're alive.

We'll fucking do the movie. You have to say yes to like a buddy that had a heart attack. If he's like, help me move or be in my movie. I think I bet the set of a Kevin Smith movie is a really fun fucking time, especially when there's this many cameos and what we didn't mention, the overarching story, Kevin Smith's daughter, Harley Quinn is actually playing Jay's daughter,

a millennium Falcon. And she has a deaf friend that's going to be accompanying them. So it's a bit of like a Jay and Silent Bob of the next generation. He's sort of setting up, which I think is kind of, kind of beautiful and very on brand for Kevin Smith. it's a bit of like a Jay and Silent Bob of the next generation he's sort of setting up, which I think is kind of beautiful and very on-brand for Kevin Smith. Yeah, and kind of like you said, it's two girls and one of them is black.

It's very much like the reboots of the current world where things change just a little bit, which I mean, when we get into the Marvel stuff, that's where it's kind of going, which I think is just natural evolution of the game. Yeah, so we'll get to that in just a second. I'm just going to throw out now a few. We had a few trailers that premiered,

and I'm going to talk about them. Maybe we'll touch on them. Maybe we won't. There was a new Watchmen trailer where they teased Dr. Manhattan for the Watchmen HBO series. There was a new trailer for It Chapter 2, which I'm very excited for. I thought the first It movie was really, really fucking good.

For Star Trek Picard, which I've never been a Star Trek guy. As everyone knows, I've seen all the movies, but I've never seen the television show. This looked fucking awesome because they have Patrick Stewart back for an entire TV series. And we got a Top Gun Maverick trailer,

which was my favorite of the bunch. I'm not even a huge Top Gun guy. I love Top Gun like everyone else does, but I'm not one of these diehards that knows all the character names like the last time i saw it was probably 10 years ago um what what were your takeaways from these four trailers watchmen it chapter two star trek picard and top gun i don't even know if you've seen all of them i haven't seen all of them um it was like you know when you get over inundated or over whatever the word is just overwhelmed with so much shit so many people were quote quote retweeting the top control i was like i can't watch it there's just too much like

fucking just talking about right now sensory overload yeah it's sensory overload in my ass so i gotta watch that one still i i also am not like a super huge top gun guy i hey it's a fine movie for what it is but like yeah that's kind of how i feel about it but i'm telling you this trailer is pretty fucking sick i'm sure it is and for anyone i mean this is to the old heads out there anyone that played top gun for the old school nintendo that was the fucking worst game in the history of the world because they made it impossible to land so every time you would do a mission you just kill the mission and then you try to land and you would die and then you your entire mission go up in smoke so i kind of i hope that about this in 2019 you're getting fired up about this we need to get nintendo we need to get top gun for it when the movie comes out and we'll twitch stream you trying to beat the game as a

as a father of two now it's like big where he like goes yeah computer game like maybe it was just like so easy to land but i'm still really and like i take it out on the movie because of that uh the only one that i i'm like i've never seen like other than when like the mets game would end i turn the tv off on like channel 11 turn it back on and Star Trek was on. That's the only like scenes of any Star Trek I've ever seen. I was straight Star Wars for life and it just never interested me. So I have no idea. Don't even want to – forget that trailer.

Forget it. Fuck them. Fuck it. It's been rebuked. The Watchmen trailer is the only one I'm interested in and I haven't had a time to just sit down and just like go into it. I'm excited to bring in the show. It's a show, right? It's going to be a show on HBO?

HBO, yeah. And Damon Lindelof from Lost and the Leftovers. Okay. I am personally very excited for it because I actually really like the movie. I know – I think the movie was kind of like divisive. I was actually a big fan of the movie. It was very divisive, as most Zack Snyder films are. But you're in good company here, as they say, because I'm a massive fan of the movie it was very divisive as most Zack Snyder films are but you're with you're uh in good company here as they say because I'm a massive fan of that movie and it's one of those

movies that was so I mean most Zack Snyder movies are but so visually stunning in that like when the comedian gets thrown through the window like that is the exact comic book panel of the glass shattering him being thrown out like I really really like Watchmen and I love what they did with the ending. It's a much better ending than the graphic novel had, in my opinion. Yeah, and the music was on point in that movie. There's a lot of little Easter eggs. I love little shit like that.

And to be honest, this is another movie. This is like a theme. I don't see – I guess I don't watch a lot of movies in the theater as I thought because I saw it the first time. I saw it was on DVD. If I saw that big old dick swinging on the big screen, it might have intimidated me and I might have hated it. But I saw it on the little screen. It still intimidated me, but not as much as it would have. So I'm very excited for that. So I got it. I saw Jeff D. Lowe blogged it earlier. I got to check out that blog and the trailer. Yeah, I think it'll be very cool. And I think a lot of Watchmen fans will probably not be in favor of it. And I sort of I don't want to say it wasn't at first but when they said we're making a Watchmen show

I was like fuck yeah like dude that makes so much sense do it as a show do the chapters and then they were like it's a modern day twist on Watchmen I was kind of like ah fuck it's not Watchmen then you're just and I watched the first trailer I didn't think it looked anything like Watchmen so I was like a little confused but the more I learn about it the more I like

it this trailer made me way more excited for it than anything else. So go check it out if you haven't already. And two more things. So CW is doing a crisis on Infinite Earths between all of their shows. And I really like Supergirl. I don't watch any of the other shows. I've seen some of The Flash.

I've seen some of The Arrow. I like both of those. But Supergirl's James Olsen is leaving the show after season five. And John Cryer is returning to Supergirl to play Lex Luthor. So those are two little tidbits from that show just because I love that show. If you haven't checked it out, it would be a guilty pleasure of mine. But like I'm one of those guys, I don't fucking believe in guilty. Go check out Supergirl.

It's great. And the most notable thing out of all of this is that the Superman they're bringing back is Brandon Ralph, who famously played Superman in the abysmal 2006 film Superman Returns. I saw that movie. That was one of the movies I did see in the theaters. Me too, and I fucking regretted it, dude. Superman didn't even throw a punch in that movie. Is that literally, is that like a sabermetrics fact?

Did he literally not? No, he didn't throw a punch. God almighty. He'd make a Superman movie where he doesn't throw a punch, bro. Oh my God. And like, yeah, he didn't throw a punch. Oh, my God. He'd make a Superman movie where he doesn't throw a punch, bro. Oh, my God. And, like, yeah, the CW stuff goes on. If you had told me when did the CW go off the air, I would have said 2009. That would have been my guess.

Right after One Tree Hill ended, they just folded? Is the WB still out there or is it the same thing? No, the WB doesn't exist anymore. Oh, that fucking frog of R.I.P. and Peace. Yeah, so that's – like, there's a billion other actors in the world. But you know what? Like, it's not his fault. Like, giveIP in peace. Yeah, so that's – like there's a billion other actors in the world. But you know what? Like it's not his fault. Like give the guy another – I just like completely flipped in my brain.

Give the guy another chance. You have to let him throw a punch. Maybe that's all that was missing was just him throwing a punch. All right. And now we're off to the big shit. No, no, no, Robbie. We have one more thing to address. One more thing to address.

Talking about shows, things that were not that great. Want to talk about Benioff and Weiss, your boys, the Star Wars guys, their panel? Oh, I forgot about this. They didn't even include this in the Entertainment Weekly thing that I was reading to make these notes. But yeah, Game of Thrones had like a, hey, farewell panel that Benioff and Weiss were supposed to be at. And they fucking canceled the day before. Listen, wild move. panel that Benioff and Weiss were supposed to be at and they fucking cancelled the day before listen wild move I defended them

a lot for Game of Thrones and I defend the shit out of them still to this day doing Star Wars I don't think giving them Star Wars was a bad idea by any means I think they completely botched the landing of a show that was very hard to land I mean it sucked

there's no other way to put it it sucked we watched me and trent actually watched the game of thrones uh like after the final watch whatever it was the documentary they put up and i had seen it already but i loved it so much i wanted to show it to trent and i said it actually will make you feel better about season eight because it meant so much to this one fucking extra that was just the funniest guy in the world i was like once you watch this you'll be like all right at least fucking mcclay had a good time on set and that is how he felt there's a moment where he meets john snow and uh it was like the you know fourth or fifth time that he's met him and kit harrington i should say his real name because they weren't like in a scene at all but they bring him together and he tells kit harrington like hey the all of the extras get

these jackets and I would love to give you mine from this season because he gave him his jacket the last season and Kit Harington was like yeah that would be great I would love that so it's you know our final day crazy and this fucking extra turns to the camera and he's just like what did you see that

and it's the fucking funniest thing in the world if you haven't seen it it's on HBO now it's on HBO go it'll make you feel better about uh game of thrones season eight but yeah fucking benny off and weiss skipping that panel was crazy it was a weird mosh of people that were there too it was like yeah actors that either weren't significant enough to get mad at like and i feel bad saying this because brand wound up being the ruler but fucking brand was there and like nobody's mad at brand they're just like oh yeah i guess you were there the whole time kind of brand the broken and then it was like macy williams who everyone loves everyone even aria storyline i feel like is the most satisfying of

the main characters at least where it's like all right i guess she's going to fucking venture off she killed the night king cool um and like i don't even remember who else was there dinklage maybe i think gray weren't yeah there was it was like honestly i don't i didn't even remember who else was there dinklage maybe i think gray weren't yeah there was it was like honestly i don't i didn't even watch any of it i just was so excited for benioff and weiss to be there and then like the fact that they said they were going i'm like this is crazy and it's like it became must watch tv and then they they bailed at the last minute which was which is even worse because now it's because now it's gonna stay over their heads until like they now when they do the star Wars press junket or whatever it is, the fans are going to be out for a pound of flesh sooner.

Like you should have just squashed it with the Game of Thrones people. I just had to shout it out because I know you've been defending them, but I'm happy to hear you've kind of turned on them a little bit. So I mean, a crazy move to announce yourself for the panel, especially when originally they weren't going to be on it. And everyone was like, whoa, they're, you know, Game of Thrones is coming to comic-con and they're not showing up what a pussy move and then they were like no no we're on it and they were like whoa that's crazy we're gonna address a bunch of shit then and then they were like never mind oh they they finally went on the internet for the first time in two months like oh shit they really yeah yeah they're like wait a minute before we should just see what they thought of the season. You know, let's get a quick refresh your Twitter.

Go run, Tomatoes. Oh, my God. Zero percent and, like, the popcorn is on fire. The tomato's on fire. Everything's on fire. It's not even a fucking tomato. It's just a middle finger. It's like, fuck you.

Now we're on to the big dog. Oh, and The Walking Dead did shit. I can't believe that's still a show. Now we're on to the big dog. It's still on, too? Oh, I would have thought that died with the CW. Jesus. Oh, and The Walking Dead did shit. I can't believe that's still a show. Now we're on to the big dog. It's still on, too. I would have thought that died with the CW. Oh, my God. I know.

Marvel fucking stole the show. If Marvel wants to steal the show, they will, and they did. So first, the Russo brothers did a panel where they got a bunch of nice video messages from a ton of the Avengers, sent in stuff for their panel. They talked about their whole journey at Marvel. They showed a new trailer for their movie with Chadwick Boseman coming out, which looks pretty fucking cool. I said it looked like a classic Denzel movie. Yeah.

And it was kind of a farewell panel for them because from what we understand, there's no promises that they're ever going to come back to Marvel, but I think they will because they announced something during their panel, which we'll get to in a second, that the Russo brothers have been like, well, if they're doing that, we'll come back. So let's just talk about, I'm going to lay down all of the announcements they made and we'll go back and we'll go through them one by one. So what we got coming out here, Clem, this is phase four officially.

Black Widow, May 1st, 2020. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, fall 2020 as a television show on Disney+. Eternals. November 6th, 2020. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. February 12th, 2021. WandaVision. Another show on Disney+.

That is spring 2021. Here's the most fucking metal name I've ever heard in my life. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. May 7th, 2021. Loki, Spring 2021. Also on Disney+. What If? Another one on Disney+. Hawkeye, another one on Disney+. They are Summer

2021 and Fall 2021 respectively, and What If? is an animated series. And then finally, to close out Phase 4, at least from what we understand now, Thor, Love and Thunder, November 5th, and then finally to close out phase four at least from what we understand now thor love and thunder november 5th 2021 this was the biggest fucking bomb drop everyone after the next blew my mind more and then kevin feige like a fucking baller who just whipped his dick out put it on the table and was like everyone take pictures make sure so lasts. You remember how big my cock is.

He was like, oh, I forgot to mention. We're making Captain Marvel 2, Black Panther 2, Fantastic Four, Guardians 3, and Blade. Oh, by the way, Mahershala Ali is Blade. What the fuck? Literally, at the end of the panel, he said it just like that. He was just like, oh, I forgot. Captain Marvel 2, Black Panther 2, Fantastic Four, Guardians 3, Blade. See ya.

What? Dick drop. The biggest fucking dick drop of all time. So let's go through them, and we're going to rank them. We each ranked the ten respective properties and which ones we're excited for the most. Let's go through them. Let's start. We'll go chronological order, even though that wasn't the order they were announced.

Black Widow. So this is one that we know Scarlett Johansson is starring in and producing in. It takes place after Civil War. And it's going to chronicle her battles with the Taskmaster, who I don't know much about but is apparently a pretty beloved Marvel comic villain. This is going to be awesome. And it's the reason Ken Jack from Lights, Camera, Barstool said it's going to be awesome. Marvel nails the shit out of espionage movies. They're so good at them.

Look at The Winter Soldier is the perfect example of that. Scarlett Johansson has only gotten better as Black Widow, I think. By the end of her time with the Marvel Cinematic Universe in Endgame, spoilers, she was pretty beloved. That was a sad death in that movie. I'm really, really looking forward to this one. What about you? You took your words out of my mouth. I got goosebumps when you said the endgame part because I said it during our podcast.

That scene in Vormir that made me not even re-engage but engage for the first time with her and Hawkeye, two characters that I've hated the entire time. And my daughter is now a diehard Black Widow fan. Black Widow might have jumped Gamora. Gamora was her girl. Gamora, because she's a Guardians girl, number one, and Avengers is two on the list. But I think Black Widow, we just got Marvel, the new game, Alliance, Ultimate Alliances 3 on Switch, and we have just been playing the shit out of it. They made another Ultimate Alliances game?

Yeah. I used to love those for psp the original switch yeah oh we we've been we've been being the and there have been a ton of villains we just got venom on our squad it's it's a lot of shit going on and and we already have like 15 characters because there's so many characters and she's like we need black widow on the team like that is the one demand so i'm excited for this from both as a you know marvel fan but also as a dad we're getting some like decent girl movies i did read i saw a tweet today it said emily blunt was originally going to be black widow and she turned it down for like a different movie and i'm kind of like shit i kind of wish emily blunt but see i don't and i'll get to exactly why a little later oh i like However, I would love to have seen – someone said this on I think Twitter. I would love to have seen Red Skull's reaction when they're like, the first movie comes out.

Oh, yeah. I said this. Yeah. You said this. I said I want to see a comic book that's kind of Deadpool-esque and that it's constantly breaking the fourth wall. And Red Skull is just like, wait a minute. You can't make a movie. She sacrificed herself.

Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh. That's not how I play my roles. This is bullshit. And I actually – so we knew this was getting made before endgame even or at least it was very very very heavily rumored and i remember being like what a dumb idea to fucking do a prequel like out of all things why would the marvel universe do that it thrives on like all right what happens next even look at spider-man far from home it's like what happens

right after endgame that's what that whole movie was. After seeing Endgame, after seeing the way things played out, they fucking always know best. They got everyone that was a fan of the Marvel Cinematic Universe to go, wow, Black Widow is really underappreciated. And the next movie they're going to drop is being like, hey, she was underappreciated. So we're going to make sure that isn't the case anymore. And they're giving her a whole new movie. David Harbour is actually going to star opposite her as Alexi. So when she's training to be a spy, it's going to be fucking Hop. Hopper.

Sad-ass Hopper. One other thing is I saw that I think they allude to – we're going back to Budapest. Yes, we are going back to Budapest. We're finally going to go to Budapest. So I'm very excited for that, which, I mean, again, I think things like that you can quote-unquote tease in a trailer or whatever you want to call it just because like – so we're going to find out there in Booty Pest sooner or later. I wish we never found out. I don't know if I mentioned this in the Endgame podcast. I wish we never knew there was time travel.

I wish we had never known. I wish going into the movie we went in completely blind on that. Oh, you mean from like the trailers, marketing and stuff like, oh, that was awesome. Yeah, like imagine having no idea we were going to New York. Oh, I would have. Oh, wow. That's a good point. That's a really good point.

I don't know how they would have gotten around it and total marketing. I mean, it was originally spoiled by set photos, so they might have originally tried to keep that private. But that's a that's a really fucking good point. You people that go on set photos and you're looking at the toys, you guys ruin the movie for the rest of us. You really do. You really fucking do.

Up next, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, fall 2020 on Disney+. I cannot wait for this. You know how big a Captain America guy is, and I'm not just a Steve Rogers guy. I like Captain America. Whoever's taking over that mantle, if Steve Rogers thought The Falcon was best, I agree with him. Sam Wilson, I love as a character.

Bucky Barnes, I love as a character. The coolest looking motherfucker in the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe to me. And I think it's so smart to show us, okay, this is what his origin story is, kind of as Captain America as a TV show, and then

by the time that's done, everyone's gonna love him already. You give him his own movie, people are gonna go to bananas. What I went the most bananas over in this is that Baron Zemo is back, aka back aka helmet zemo and they're giving him the fucking purple hood unbelievable what a drop like what like of course he's back that's the perfect villain for this what do you think about the falcon and the winter soldier i think it's very important i think when when we heard that he was going to become cap you're like whoa this is gonna like you're turning a fucking, you know,

18-wheeler, you have to turn it on a dime on the highway going 65. Now you kind of pull off, go to the rest station for a year, Disney Plus. It's kind of like, I feel like they're going to be using Disney Plus as like, they're like, almost like the minor leagues where they're just going to work on some stuff. And then once it's ready, they come up to the bigs.

The NXT to the WWE, if you will. Exactly. Yep, perfect. Which, by the way, Disney Plus is going to be a fucking problem because I still use- Oh my God, I know. I still use my parents' Netflix and their Amazon Prime. I'm going to have to buy a Disney Plus because my mom's not going to do it herself. And they can charge $1,000. If I want to watch Moana, I'm going to have to get Disney Plus. Here's the good thing about Disney Plus.

I will say it's only $7.99 For the time being I think that's them also just being cocky though And knowing like yeah there's gonna be a billion people That sign up on the first day to watch The Mandalorian And all these Marvel shows And fucking parents This is the same company that would put

Movies in a vault So you couldn't buy them But you have to buy them in like a limited time and you run out to the store and like drop everything you're doing. They are going to raise that to $79.99 the minute they get. I promise you. I'll do it.

They'll do it right before the finale of one of these shows. Oh, yeah, exactly. I don't think any of them, I mean, I could be wrong, but I know this is the way they're releasing The Mandalorian and I would imagine it's the same model for these shows. It's week to week. It's not, here's the entire season, binge entire season binge it holy really I think they're all week to week and I think they're all gonna be like six episodes they're all gonna be six hours long

that's actually pretty smart because I mean I we like it avoids the spoiler world and it just kind of like it keeps it it keeps it fresh and it makes you like it's it's basically making you like a customer of this channel now you're're going to have to stay with it. Fucking Disney is so smart. It makes the discussion go on Twitter week to week what's going to happen next week. And the most brilliant shit about the way they're doing The Mandalorian's drop is The Mandalorian is I think 12 episodes and it's 12 weeks before The Rise of Skywalker. So every single week before The Rise of Skywalker, people are going to be talking about Star Wars. And then as soon as it's over, you watch the finale.

The next week you hit the theater and you see episode nine. So, I mean, like, I can't suck these guys' dicks enough. They're just so smart. These guys, Endgurls, Kathleen Kennedy, by the way, head of that company. The Eternals, November 6th, 2020. We got Robb Stark in this movie. We got Angelina Jolie. We got fucking Salma Hayek.

Hell of a cast. There was no Keanu and no Millie Bobby Brown. Those are the two biggest names to be associated with this. It feels weird saying Millie Bobby Brown, the two biggest names. But she kind of is at the time. Right now, I think more kids my age probably know who she is than fucking Salma Hayek. I'm excited for this movie, but I don't really know anything about it. So I don't really have anything to add.

I know nothing about the comics. Yeah, I know nothing about the comics either. I'm kind of just keeping like that and it me too i'm like i'm gonna actively uh avoid it to go in blind i think that'll be fun yeah i don't want to get like anything because you know a lot of these things go off of old comics or you you you might read something that you wouldn't have seen and it happens in the movie um this marvel is in a beautiful place a place game of thrones was where it's like until they fuck up i'm gonna think they're gonna do a good job here they get the benefit of the doubt

after the last like again decade of movies and especially like the the the prime example of what the eternals is is guardians was a move was a franchise nobody gave a fuck about and it's probably my favorite marvel franchise so the eternals i don't know what it is and i'll tell you rob stark is like my guy. I'm still like a little upset. He hasn't become bigger in Hollywood yet. So I'm all in on everything Robb Stark is in. So him and Jolie and who is it?

Tomahawks in it too? Yep. Oh, there you go. And also rumored to be apparently like the main character, I think, is a teenage girl who they just didn't announce anyone for. A lot of people believe that to be Millie Bobby Brown, which would be awesome she's incredible as we talked about on our stranger things podcast last week uh up next another one that i know nothing about i had a feeling they would announce this because it was heavily rumored but shang chi or shang chai it might even be shang chai

and the legend of the 10 rings this one is in february of 2021 know nothing about it i know it's going to make a trillion gazillion billion million dollars in China because they have pretty much in all, you know, Chinese or Chinese American cast. It's a movie about a Chinese superhero. The Mandarin is back, which is fucking crazy. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it'll be great. I know nothing about it. Shit. I was when we're going to this podcast, I'm like, Bob's going to tell me all about Shang-Chi.

I don't know anything about this. And I know the actor was like hey marvel let's talk it's like a joke five years ago he was like hey captain america's cool what about an asian superhero and he's fucking shang chi which is awesome again i don't know probably like personally runs the at marvel account and he he just somehow has the capacity to listen to every fan because he always knows what every fan wants. Probably saw that tweet and was like, bookmark. Yep. All right. See you in five years.

I don't know who Iron Fist is. I don't know if this is part of Shang-Chi or in a different world together. But I know Iron Fist from the Lego Marvel game I play. And I'm like, oh, Iron Fist seems like a cool guy. Don't know anything about him. Don't know anything about Shang-Chi. There's one problem with Shang-Chi, Bob, and clearly you haven't thought of this yet. It's going to be so big in China.

We are officially potentially about to get terminated by fucking oh my god there's a billion people in china fuck but hey you know what it's all in the family all good it's all in the family all good um wandavision spring 2021 on disney plus so i'm really excited for this um after i read some theories as to what it's about. I saw Scarlett, not Scarlett Johansson, I saw Scarlett Witch, Emily Olsen, or Elizabeth Olsen. Jeez, I can't even fucking talk today. It's the heat.

I saw Elizabeth Olsen on a red carpet say that this is set in the 50s, which is very fucking interesting. And there was a hint given by Kevin Feige at this panel that this is the direct lead-in to Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness because both Emily Olsen and – Emily Olsen. Why do I keep saying that? Because you said Emily Blunt.

You fucker. You fucked me up, Clem. Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany as Vision are going to be in that Doctor Strange movie. They're going to be like his sidekicks for the whole movie, which is awesome. I love when the Avengers are getting together, especially like the weird Avengers, the weird mystic Avengers that have wizardry powers and all that shit. Like, cool, we're going to get crazy with that movie. The theories is, uh, apparently there was a comic series where Scarlet Witch and Vision have a pretty regular suburban life and they have kids that Vision originally thought were hers. Again, I don't know how that

works. Does he have a USB port down there? What's going on? But they were like created by Scarlet Witch or by her magic and they wound up turning bad and Vision turns bad because she was trying to keep him regular. I don't know if Vision's going to turn on her and become a villain or any of that shit.

But the idea is basically this is going to be a 1950s sitcom-esque thing that's going to flip on its head real quick and get fucking crazy like cool that sounds like nothing they've ever done before i put all my faith in them yep take some chances it's a show too so it's like even if it sucks you watch the first episode it sucks all right don't don't watch the rest you know yep yep and i always thought the whole obsession over the olsen twins like oh they're gonna be remember that was like a thing on the internet. They're going to be 18. I thought it was fucking gross. Maybe it was because I was always older and I was like, Michelle was always the baby of

the family. I didn't always thought it was weird even back then. Gross to me. That's true. That's true. However, Elizabeth Olsen, I am in love with, and it's not even like, I think she's, I am in love with her. I love her so much. I think she's had, I am in love with her. I love her so much. Is she like your number one lady Avenger as far as who you're in love with? Oh, oh, there's not, there's not even number two, Bob. It's her.

It's just me and her. We're in love. We are in love. Me and Scarlet Witch are in love. I envision, except for like the cut body and the fucking infinity stone in my head, we are in love.

I'm trying to think who mine is. I think it's probably Brie Larson. It's either Brie Larson or Karen Gillan who plays plays nebula and i don't like her as nebula yes like shout out to nebula you know whatever but karen gillen as we discussed on our i think pre-endgame pod was the uh redhead from jumanji and oh baby i tweet her sometimes and i'm just like hey when are we gonna go on a date at karen gillen hey are we going on a date or what like i don't know. She's also – I think she's six foot tall, which I am also six foot tall. Would maybe cause problems with heels, but I don't really give a fuck.

Sneaky tall, Bob Fox. Sneaky tall. And then Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, which we just kind of touched on. This is the most metal rock and roll title we've ever had. We knew a Doctor Strange 2 was probably on the horizon because over the last couple Avengers movies, they've clearly tried to make him one of their bigger heroes, which is smart being you just lost a couple heroes. A shout out to my dog, Tony Stark, and my dog, Steve Rogers. I think I'll be going to the Steve Rogers Captain America statue in Brooklyn this week, laying down some flowers, paying my respects in honor of the

Terminate Cameron coming to fruition uh but this is going to be awesome i think this is going to be crazy i think it's going to be trippy the logo kind of looks like lava and fiery i think it's going to be dark we're going to get some dark fucking magic my one real hope for this movie they they just got real ballsy they just started killing people off i don't want wong to get killed off in this movie. I love Wong. I want him to stick around. Jesus, Bob. Don't be fucking morbid.

Listen, listen, listen. When you're throwing out the multiverse of madness, someone's going to die. If someone's got to die, you could kill off Vision again. No disrespect to Vision. Kind of boring. He's just kind of boring. Let one of Wong's fucking crazy kids that we were just talking about kill his ass like i've already seen that on my mom's basement as we've said we can move the needle here we could get people to go to the theater let's just uh keep wong alive okay let's keep

wong alive we talked about this on our spider-man podcast how like is the multiverse actually going to be a thing or is they kind of kill Like when they're putting it in the fucking movie title, multiverse is a fucking thing now. We are living in a multiverse universe now in the Marvel world. And before Far From Home, my favorite ever visual effects sequence in the MCU was the fight scene from Doctor Strange where New York City is kind of – it's like an Inception type deal. It's collapsing in on itself. The buildings are folding together. They're jumping up and down. It's such a cool scene that like – Inception type deal. It's collapsing in on itself. The buildings are folding together. They're jumping up and down. It's such a cool scene that like – that was a movie.

I think I've talked about this before where I didn't really want to see it. My friend bought me a ticket opening night. He's like, come on. You're going to like it. When that sequence was going on, I was like this is the most justified. Like I will never doubt you ever again. This is so fucking cool. We're going to get something insane in this movie like the likes of that because they know they got to up the bar how do you up the bar from that i don't know uh loki a series premiering summer 2021

on disney plus we've heard a decent amount about this loki escapes with the tesseract and is alive in some universe because of endgame this series picks up immediately after he escapes apparently and we're going to get him going back to very notable historic things throughout human history and changing them slightly. I think it's going to be awesome. I think it's another one where they're going to get ballsy and they're going to get weird with it. Yep, I'm with you on that.

This kind of goes back to my— We're going to get like Loki jumping in front of Kennedy or some shit. Yeah, it's going to be—that's kind of like The Watchmen too. I'd like to have The Watchmen had influences on history. was the one that shot him and all that shit, yeah. Yep, so if Loki is basically that

with the whole, because as much as I thought Loki's death kind of brought you into infinity, like, oh, this shit is real right now, it sucked having to

say goodbye to him, especially with No More Resurrections. Even though we've seen him die a thousand times, that's almost the charm of Loki at this point. He's almost Kenny from South Park where it's like, yeah, he should die in this movie.

But we want him back. Up next, we got What If? premiering summer 2021 on Disney+. This is going to be an animated series. From what I understand, everyone from the Marvel Universe is returning to voice their own character though, which adds a lot to it. Sometimes I watch these Star Wars cartoons, the new ones, and they don't't have their original voices and it completely takes me out of it i'm like that's not han solo like come on what are you talking about the i think there's like these galaxy of adventurers shorts they do and my nephew loves them they're like little videos on youtube and they actually use the audio from the movies and it's way better it's like so so so good so

they're going to be coming back voicingicing their characters. We have talked about What If Comics before. I love the concept of What If Comics. So another one where they're going to do whatever the fuck they want. And since it's a TV show and since it's animated, they really can do whatever the fuck they want. I had no idea about the voices thing. That's a complete game changer. A lot of times with cartoons and stuff, I'm like, oh, I can't wait to see that. And then I'll never end up watching it.

I loved the What If Comics back when I was a comic reader back in the day um and like that is something the the crazy like all you got to do is just give me like a decent scenario and like one of kind of the hooks where it was like if if you know aunt may died instead uncle ben you're like oh shit and and and it always like it touched it like ends up touching like it ends up not only like fucking spider-man's life but it fucks up like some like wolverine like never has made or it's like the craziest shit happens and I this is we'll go to like our rankings this was number one with a bullet for me because I fucking love the what if and I want to hear I want the watchers I want those creepy little watches there well they're gonna be in it they said I think they said they're they're the narrators right yeah they're the that's the

thing and i want dr dre the watcher to play when they come oh shit how about dr dre is one of the fucking watchers and it plays that that you know what dr dre is a watcher dr dre should be in the marvel cinematic universe though listen here's the campaigns we're starting with this episode. Hashtag keep Wong alive and hashtag Dr. Dre for Marvel. He's going to be so confused. Our rankings are going to be very interesting. The what if – here's a pitch for what if, OK? I just want to get this out there. If Marvel is still listening, if they haven't turned the podcast off, here's my pitch, OK?

After I saw Into the Spider-Verse, I started thinking about all of the different ways you can incorporate different spider verses and if we could get the rights to spider-man for this i would like to write my own what-if story where mj is not mary jane the girl mj is mary jane the drug and spider-man just has to balance his life as a stoner and as a superhero, and he struggles with it. So there's just got to be a Spider-Verse out there where Mary Jane isn't a relationship. It's his relationship with the pot. So that's my what-if story. Marvel, hit me up.

I think it would be a very funny stoner comedy. Clem will get a co-writing credit. Me and Clem will write it together. There's your pitch. Kevin Smith, if they don't take it, you take it because I know you'll do that shit yes kevin smith let's do it um hawkeye another series we got fall 2021 and they're using the logo from like this newer hawkeye comic series that i know everyone loved i haven't read it but i heard it was amazing and my hope for this series i think they said they're exploring you know hawkeye's time as ronin whatever, I would love to see Hawkeye get his

fucking weird purple suit in this series. I always thought that was a cool suit in the comics, and I don't know how it could translate to the screen. His suit didn't look too different from it like in the Avengers. It's a very realistic way of doing it, but I wanted to have the mask and all that shit. So I would like that to happen. I would like this to be very samurai-esque, like that one-shot scene from Endgame. I want to see a whole lot more of that. That would be very cool. I want them only to call him Hawkeye. That's the only thing I'm asking for.

They never called him Hawkeye in any deal. They might call him Ronan, too. I just want Hawkeye. Like, his kids call him Hawkeye. People who don't even know him call him Hawkeye. It doesn't even make sense. It's like, stop calling me fucking Hawkeye. It, like, overcorrects that they never called him Hawkeye.

And now let me pull up a tweet that I had, all right? I had a tweet before the panel i put out a bunch of predictions and someone tweeted me and they were like dude you know do you have any uh faith or do you have any doubt that they could make phase four work like how do you move forward and i quote tweeted him and i said dude truthfully marvel could be like we're making 18 films about jane foster for phase four and i'll be hyped and i'll show up to each and every one. I said I learned my lesson when I didn't get excited for Doctor Strange or Ant-Man. I wasn't even that stoked for Ant-Man and the Wasp after Infinity War, and I went back and watched it, and I fucking loved it.

So I was like, dude, I learned my lesson. They could make Jane Foster movies for all I care. They're making a fucking Jane Foster movie where she becomes female Thor. Thor Love and Thunder directed and written by Taika Waititi starring Chris Hemsworth. They're bringing back Valkyrie who is apparently a lesbian I believe or at least a member of the LGBTQ community in some way. And Thor will also be involved. So the way they're doing this makes me think that Thor probably won't have a major role in Guardians 3. I don't think it'll be, you know, as Guardians. I think he'll probably be in, like, the first third of it, go off,

and, you know, we'll see the Guardians for the rest of it. This is the one that I am the most excited for. I love Thor Ragnarok so fucking much. I love Taika Waititi so fucking much. I love Korg so fucking much, and you know we're getting Korg. And Natalie Portman is number probably two or three on my all time crush favorite actress whatever like I can't believe she's

back I'm stunned I can't believe they're doing the female Thor story which everyone raves about everyone says it's one of the best Thor stories ever told which is very promising Tyke is doing it which is the most promising thing ever he's you know entering that realm now where maybe anything he does I'll like even if it sucks i need i need old portman coming back i need portman snl when she was fucking had

those songs like i love the totally portman yeah this i was i i remember we talked i think me and you talked about it and uh fran in the office too um about like how surprising it was when she was on the red carpet and that i know kind of in with endgame and now it all makes perfect sense she knew she was she's like listen i'll fucking sell your movie and help you kill that motherfucker cameron if you give me fucking thor's hammer i can never say it mjolnir whatever it is yeah do you think here's a question for you because i've been thinking about this non-stop since they announced this do you think it was a case of natalie portman maybe seeing endgame Infinity War, seeing the fan response that these movies have gotten, seeing the box office response that these movies have gotten, and she went, fuck, you know what?

I was wrong about these movies. I'm sorry. I would love to return to the franchise. Or do you think Taika got this great idea, let's do female Thor, and who would be a better female Thor than actual Natalie Portman, Jane Foster, who's been in so many of these movies? And he presents her with this idea and they unload a dump truck full of money onto her front lawn and they're like, please come back. Do you think it was Marvel being like, please come back? Or do you think it was her being like, please have me back? I think that it was – I don't know who reached out to who first. But I think she looked around and was like, like yo you guys have been crushing it lately and you guys whoever she had issues with in the studio like when they were making

the first two thors probably aren't there anymore exactly like the the first two thor movies let's be honest they kind of suck right and they're kind of a mess and they were messy in production and shit they haven't really had like production issues in a while they made dr strange's movie cool they made the guardians of the galaxy fucking awesome. But she's like, yo, you guys fucked up Thor twice. Like Thor, the best Thor until Ragnarok or any of the Avengers was in Adventures of Babysitting. It wasn't even in the Marvel Universe. So the fact that like – I think she probably was like, come on. Like fix – like I'll do it as long as you like the new Marvel is in charge of this kind of –

it's like someone going back to the Knicks now that they actually have a competent front office. It's like, all right, I was here with like the shittiest time with Isaiah back in the day. Let's fucking do this now. So I – and you know what? Like Jane Foster, like Natalie Portman was like one of the people I was like hoping Thor would end up with. And I hated that they broke up because I don't – it's probably a little bit – because I actually liked Portman more than Hemsworth. And now Hemsworth is like myworth is my personal number one right now. So she's going to have to work her way back up to my number one, Portman.

I know. I always tweeted before when I saw the picture of her holding the hammer on stage, which is such like – that's an iconic Comic-Con moment. When you look at all the big Comic-Con moments, the announcement of, one, Natalie Portman's back. Holy fuck. Two, she's playing female Thor. Holy fuck. And then they give her the hammer on stage she hoisted up the place went wild i almost tweeted i really want to fuck thor

and then when i got the blue checkmark brigade i would just spin it on and be like dude i was talking about chris hemsworth she ain't thor yet i'm on the record i'm on the record on podfathers that i would do vicious things to chris i am a happily married man with two children and I don't care. That is my guy. And he is so goddamn, he's just so like, like he's going to, he's going to steal guardians from our,

from our boy fucking Starler. He's going to steal it from him. I would have thought Thor from that first movie that he would be maybe like the most iconic, most interesting, most funny Avenger in Phase 4. Un-fucking-believable. And the logo for Thor Love and Thunder, greatest logo any movie's ever had.

It looks straight out of like He-Man or like an old fiction book or some shit. I don't know. It's awesome though. Let's do our rankings. I'll start because I just mentioned that Thor was my number one, so I'll just continue. Number one, Thor Love and Thunder. Number two, the Falcon and the Winter Soldier. You know how big a cap guy I am.

I think that and the fact that I love Civil War as much as I do. They're bringing Zemo back. They're giving him the purple hood. Can't wait for that. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, number three. I never would have thought I was saying that years ago, but it is my number three. Number four, The Loki television show on Disney+.

Number five, Black Widow. Love espionage. Six, Eternals. Don't know a ton about it, but it's a movie. It's got a great cast. I think I will be a big fan. And like you said, you know, the Guardians thing. If we had faith in them for that, they crushed that. They're going to crush this. Hawkeye, number seven

on my list. Fall 2021 on Disney+. WandaVisionision following closely after it uh shang chi because i don't know anything about it is pretty pretty low on my list coming in at number nine and number 10 only for one reason clem i know you said it's your number one but i i've got one reason why what if is my number 10 and it's because they haven't given us the into the spider verse episode just yet so i'm gonna play hard to get i'm gonna play hard to get. I'm going to play hard to get, and I'm going to put it at 10. I'm going to say, if you give us that Spider-Man episode, it might bump up to number

one. I like that. I like it because everyone says we're not, you know, on lock stock the entire podcast. So I like that. My number one's definitely What If, like I said already. Number two, we're going to go Doctor Strange, just because again, I can't believe it, but that, like i'm telling

you movies like that are the real important importance back she's like you guys made that awesome and like the just acting like like i when i saw dr strange incredible he's so i'm sure rachel mcadams will be back too right oh my god i mean we're talking crushes i mean i know to this to this day rachel mcadams in the wedding in Wedding Crashers is like the most charming, beloved, greatest woman I've ever seen in my life. She's perfect. Claire is perfect. But now I'm a dumper. Doctor Strange is two.

Number three, we're going to go Loki. Number three. Number four, Eternals. Number five. You haven't mentioned Thor yet. We're going're gonna put like what the fuck is going on or it's two i i okay okay okay and by the way that is the he-man font like they literally just went to fucking microsoft word and put in he-man font yeah so thor's two dr strange three loki four turtles five um wandav six, because it's just so weird. It's going to either be like home run or a strike.

Yeah. It's like Jerry Reese, any Giants fans out there, Jerry Reese, you do the draft. Odell Beckham or Eric Flaherty is in the first round. You don't know which one you're getting. That's WandaVision in my mind. It's going to be awesome. There's your patented Clem Giants endgame comparison there. My Marvel Universe fit. That's's six seven is hawkeye no no seven is black widow just because me and sienna are going to do that that's going to be

big for us oh that's huge eight is falcon and winter soldier because i'm not a cap guy you know i'm not a cap guy we're going to leave it at that and you should fucking bring flowers to wherever stark because he's the guy who actually sacrifices i believe it's actually the metlife building i think they just cgi the metlife building to be way taller is that it oh i think it is i think that's uh yeah i'm pretty sure that's accurate by the way the fact that captain america in in endgame originally they had it on the oh we forgot to mention yeah I actually meant to bring that up. The Russo brothers during their panel said Thanos went back and kills the 2012 Captain America. And when he shows up in like present day, he's just holding Captain America's head, which would have been fucking – talk about metal.

That's metal. I want to see that concept art. Like there's got to be concept art that exists, right? Someone send in like – I don't care, our listeners. If you're talented, fucking draw it. Let's see it. I love Steve Rogers, but that would just be awesome to see. And before we move on, you just said Black Widow, you know, Sienna, you'll do that with her.

It'll be great. That's May 1st, 2020. There's no doubt in my mind her Halloween 2020 costume is going to be Black Widow. Well, we've had 2019's Halloween booked since like November of last year. And it was, she's Gamora, I'm Thanos. She already told me that our next Halloween, she has already thrown on. When we were playing Marvel, she goes, she's Black Widow and I'm the Incredible Hulk. Which is also a little weird.

They have like that relationship, but it's also like a friendship. So it's not too problematic. And at the end, it it's just a friendship that's where it was left off so you'll be the most modern representation of it exactly uh hawkeye and then again shang chi i have no idea and i'm actually the more i think about it really terrified that endgame is going to get terminated by shang chi oh my god i know the chinese people probably be fucking awesome though if they even go, I don't know what Shang-Chi even is. I don't know if he's a samurai type character. I don't know if he's an Iron Fist type character.

I don't know what he's going to be like. And that like, putting that number 10, I will be there on opening night. Like, don't get me wrong. I'm very, very, very excited for it. I'm excited for anything that they fucking put out.

And then quickly, we could just mention Captain Marvel 2. I'm very excited for it. I hope they bring back her friend in that movie movie we talked about it on the podcast before i think her friend put on such a compelling performance obviously that will probably expand into the uh shield sword type thing where we'll learn more about the cree the scrolls uh nick fury probably like a modern day nick fury with her would be very cool because it's a relationship that we haven't seen since the 1990s, you know, and in our timeline or our universe. So I think that'll be great. And I think it will shed all the problems of the first one.

We got the origin over with. We know Captain Marvel. So now just make a cool movie. You know what I mean? You don't have to get anything else out of the way. I think I've said this a bunch of times about the movie. There's no other way I could put it. Like, I just feel like there was a better movie out there to do but they just had to like hit certain parts for the origin story which always sucks so now that we have all that out of the way let's fucking let's just fucking crush it with captain marvel which it's tough though it's it's the superman problem right it's like they're so strong these characters so they're gonna have to figure out a way to like balance the odds but uh again i think that might be the

most important of all these movies because the korea and the scroll i think are going to be like basically the overarching part of the marvel universe for the next for at least this phase if not the next phase and there's it can go really bad really quickly and as we saw with game of thrones when shit goes bad the thing is this is the thing about game of thrones reigns of force uh yeah like i i hate to bring Game of Thrones up yet again. I just thought of it, though. Like, they took two movies for the Infinity Saga. Game of Thrones would have been like, give us 30 minutes.

That's what Benioff and White said. Give us 30 minutes. We'll wrap up the Infinity Saga. That's very true. I was thinking about that, and I was like, they only had six episodes to do it. But it's like, look at the runtime. Like, that's pretty much, I'm sure Infinity War and Endgame is way lower than the final season. And they wrapped up 10 years worth of shit. Better game of thrones i mean way better like not even

it's it's insulting to compare the two yeah so it's like just take as much time as you guys need to like just do these stories if it's disney plus shows that's the other thing too is like if they they can throw shit on plus they can throw shit in the movie so i'm excited but anyway captain marvel 2 i'm looking for a better movie though like i i same with i i'm sure we'll jump to black panther i didn't love black panther i think there were moments i actually liked um killmonger more than i like the black panther which was i think a problem when you're like oh the villain is actually cooler and the hero just gets his ass kicked the entire time you guys have a full movie origin story out of the way crush it with black panther. That's all I'm asking. Black Panther I actually do really, really love.

And my big hope for this one, which we've discussed off mic and on mic, I want Wakanda versus Atlantis. With the whole thing, I know how good Killmonger's death was. I do. And I know we just talked about it last week, how bringing back a character who had such a fantastic death lessens that. Killmonger fucking fell into that river. Where did he end up? Come on, Atlantis. Come on. Bring back Killmonger. Do Black Panther 2. Bring back fucking Namor. I don't care. Make Keanu Namor. Do that. the potential to be fucking incredible like wakanda has faced way way way way way more than we've seen it ever face you know obviously since the black panther movie they open up to the world immediately fight the biggest battle of all time on their soil let's see how wakanda's doing wakanda like i i think we say this too wakanda is like the millennium falcon in that it's a character in and of itself now and we all love wakanda we like we we love the Falcon or R2 or any of them. So that's very exciting.

Guardians 3, we've already touched on a ton. Fantastic Four, this was, if we would have done the rankings, this would be my number one. It would skip above everything else. You know how big

a Fantastic Four guy I am. And it's not even because like, I don't know a ton about Fantastic Four. I don't know a ton about the comics. I don't know a ton about the backstory.

All of this. I just know that they were very much the center of Marvel Comics for a very long time. i know that the incredibles pretty much took their formula and made one of the greatest superhero movies ever made in the first incredibles movie i'll stand by that and i think there's a fantastic movie to be made about the fantastic four it obviously hasn't been done yet but the russo brothers said if they wind up doing the fantastic four they would definitely be peeking over you know the the lot studio fence and being like hey can we do

this i think you got to bring the russo brothers in make sure you kick it off great this is one of these things fantastic four has been botched so many times three now where you have to make sure this one knocks it out of the park i've mentioned my casting choices before. You do John Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic Reed Richards. You do Emily Blunt as Susan Storm, and that's why I would rather her not be Black Widow. You do Jake Johnson as a brand-new, fresh kind of comedic take on the Human Torch. He's the comedic one in the group, and you do that dude that played Hank Schrader as the Thing so he could somewhere get in a line about how he's not made of rocks he's made of minerals that's what I want from the Fantastic Four and I said originally Joaquin Phoenix as Dr. Doom you gotta cast he's the most important one to cast I think by far because I think you make Dr. Doom the next big baddie of the Marvel Universe you take him from just a regular human who's a little pissed off has a little fucked up face and you make him Cosmic Doom you know the most powerful villain anyone's ever faced. I think he's the most

important one. It'd be weird to guess Joaquin Phoenix now, being he's, you know, about to come out with the Joker. So he can't just be comic book villain guy. I don't know who the right choice is. I've said I want Bryan Cranston as Magneto. I don't know if he, I mean, he would definitely crush Doom, but I think I would go with someone a little younger than him for Doom. How do you feel about the Fantastic Four? Fantastic Four is – I mean I said just to Captain Marley. Fantastic Four is the most important movie of all this because they're also like – Fantastic Four, they get into space and shit like that too. And then I think – I don't know if we'd be delving back in with the Silver Surfer this quickly and stuff like that.

Oh, yeah. That's going to be – and like you said about Far From Home, there's a little line about a hey we got a surfboard here nick fury whose surfboard is this yeah come on so i i that is by far the most important thing again like they're not gonna screw it like especially if the russo brothers are attached to it like i won't believe they're gonna screw it up but they gotta at least like i gotta get a b a b plus i'm not i'm not worried at all i'm actually excited here i don't know where the fuck i don't know like why fantastic four is announced but x-men wasn't which kind of concerns me i think i saw like varying reports some people said like hey mutants are coming like kevin kevin feige yeah mutants are coming and some people said he didn't mention it

at all so i don't know exactly what happened i'm sure if i go on youtube right now i could find like the full panel like a video a bootleg video of it or something where I'll figure it out. I do think throughout phase four, that's going to be that we're going to get teases through it. Like in every movie, I bet there's some kind of like there's mutant activity going on in upstate New York. That's a little weird. Like, I think there's going to be so many teases that like that we're going to have blue balls for 10 years. I like that too like i i um speaking of uh what's it called atlantis that little line about the earthquakes underwater and stuff like that like that is

definitely like if we get a little shit about like uh you know this guy in russia who made a metal colossus or you have like you have some sort of wolverine you know reference or whatever stuff like that so um but i don't even know if if like mac nino might be one of the villains for these movies like we don't fucking know what's like, Mac Nino might be one of the villains for these movies. Like, we don't fucking know what's going to happen. Oh, God, it's going to be so fucking awesome. Yeah. And then finally, Mahershala fucking Ali, one of the best actors on the planet.

Dude couldn't not win an Oscar if he fucking was in a movie that year. If Mahershala Ali is in a movie, he will win the Oscar. He's, like, 2-0 now. This dude is fucking incredible, and they're bringing him into the Marvel Universe universe which i would already be stoked about it he's fucking blade they're bringing blade and vampires into the marvel cinematic universe this was the most

out of left field shit ever and i cannot believe it didn't leak it wasn't rumored nothing i cannot believe they kept this secret making for for the most mind-blowing, it looked like the NBA dunk contest, everyone at Comic-Con, like all the nerds were falling over when they saw Blade come out. Oh my God. And he fucking, the way he did it too,

I think, and our guy Kazim, who's been on the podcast before, he tweeted, he put the hat on like he just committed to a fucking college. Yes. Amazing, amazing moment. Listen, I'll be honest, I've never even watched Blade. I didn't see any of the Wesley Snipes. I'm not listen i'll be honest i've never even watched blade i didn't see any of the way so let's say i'm not a vampire guy never happened dude i've seen the

first one like 10 years ago you and me should re-watch and do some like catch-up podcasts on yes something we'll do like one podcast on the trilogy i know wesley snipes was like a dick for a bunch of production but i think you got to bring him back and put him in the like harrison ford in the blade runner 2049 role or you know even him in the force awak back and put him in the Harrison Ford in the Blade Runner 2049 role or even him in The Force Awakens. You put him in that mentor role. That would be so fucking sick. Or like Leonard Nimoy in J.J. Abrams' Star Trek. That was a perfect, perfect-sized role.

Yeah, and like you said, this dude, all he does is win Oscars. I don't even watch – I don't go to nice movies or films I guess you could say anymore. I just see he's on TV. I'm like, oh, he's going to win Oscars. I don't even watch like – I don't go to like nice movies or films I guess you could say anymore. I just see he's on TV. I'm like, oh, he's going to win an award. He wins an award. I don't even know what movie he's in half the time. It's just he's on stage making a speech every single time. That's your blade.

That's a fucking man. And now, like you said, vampires are now on the table. We're going to have mutants being sprinkled around, the Fantastic Four. It's – shit's popping off, man. And Kevin Feige, thank you. Just keep fucking driving this goddamn wagon. Keep driving it, Kevin Feige. the round the fantastic for it's shit's popping off man and kevin feige thank you just keep fucking driving this goddamn wagon keep driving it kevin feige you're the fucking man i think maybe we get a little vampire tease in dr strange and the multiverse of madness that's the place to

do it that dark weird movie like have them go into weird like some weird multiverse where a fucking vampire like gets through the door and like he doesn't see it and they just cut away from it and that's like the way vampires get to our Earth or something. 616. That would be so cool. That's it for the San Diego Comic-Con recap podcast. We got a few questions, and honestly, I looked through them. We answered the majority of them just talking about this podcast.

Everyone was like, hey, how do you feel about Blade? Well, he just got our answer to that. I'm very excited to announce, which we've announced on Twitter but not on the podcast, that when Avengers Endgame comes out on digital, which I believe is July 30th

is when it hits, Clem and I will be doing a full commentary of the movie. We're going to sit down together. We're going to watch it together. That is a Tuesday. It's next Tuesday, so next Friday, August 2nd,

is when it will premiere. It will be a three-hour commentary on the movie from the two fucking probably biggest fans of the movie in existence. So I think it's going to be a blast. I can already just – I'll tell you what. I am going to figure out a way to put in that scene of him carrying Captain America's head in there. Because if I had to watch my guy die on screen, you have to watch your guy die. Oh, boy. It's going to be like some kind of South Park, like construction paper just on the screen. All right. That's it for My Mom's Basement.

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