My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 192 - EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT MOON KNIGHT (WITH JOSE YOUNGS)

Episode Date: February 25, 2022

Robbie and Clem don't have a clue who Moon Knight is or why they should care about him, so they've called in the Human Comic Book Encyclopedia in Jose Youngs to break down the character's lore before the Disney+ show premieres! NEW SHIRTS: https://store.barstoolsports.com/products/ff-24-tee 3Chi: Use promo code BASEMENT at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com HelloFresh: Use promo code 16robbie at HelloFresh.com/16robbie **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and a very special Moon Knight Prepper edition of My Mom's Basement. We've got Clem, and as always, we've got the professor, Jose Young, here to school us on Moon Knight. We don't know anything. We wrote down the most basic questions. Who the hell is Moon Knight? What does he do? Why should we be excited about this? But as always, I think we're going to leave this episode a lot more excited for the show than we came in.

Jose, how you doing? I'm fantastic, man. I'm glad to be back. It's, what, the first time I've been on in 2022? It is, yeah. Last first appearance. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, guys.

Happy holidays. Yeah, I think the last time I new year guys happy holidays yeah i think the last time i saw you guys robbie you were getting ready to go to survivor series yeah oh shit yeah because we were talking hawkeye weren't we yeah so a lot's obviously a lot in the marvel world's happened i don't think anyone needed a refresher on like spider-man but i'm glad we could you know get this going again with uh moon night real interesting cat yeah a bit of an obscure one right like in relation to heroes where would you put moon night you said the eternals is like a real obscure one moon night not that obscure right he has been in a lot but it's very rare that he's kind of the breakout character like i i was i was

tweeting at clem what What? Like yesterday, like he's really great when he's a supporting character and there are fantastic moon night arcs, but there's not a huge catalog like the X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil. Like I remember when I was reading moon night a couple of years ago when it was like,

I'm sure we're going to get into it. I was like, this would make a great TV show. I don't know if he's strong enough for a movie and so i'm glad they're i'm glad they're taking the tv route for sure but on a scale he's he's way more popular than the eternals but he's not as popular as hawkeye if that makes so it's like somewhere in the middle of that before we go any further i want to remind everybody about three. They are the industry leaders in Delta 8 federally legal THC products such as vapes, edibles, gummies, and so much more. Visit 3Chi.com right now to see what I'm talking about. All of these products formulated by a biochemist

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to use their tv right where it's like you throw moon night in a theater like the old pre-podcast me would have been like i don't know about that unless the reviews came out now it's like tv show it's like sure i'll devote a half hour to it or whatever yeah and there's not like moon night like like robbie you kind of unknowingly you said you don't know a lot about moon knight it's weird you say that because moon knight doesn't know a lot about moon right like the character himself so there's and moon knight is would be really hard to make into a movie because he has been canceled and reboot and canceled and reboot at least seven or eight times like since he debuted

he wasn't even like the character moon that was supposed to be one-off and he was gonna he was in a two-issue arc with uh wolfman by night if i remember correctly in the 60s or 70s and that was it he was supposed to be no more like he was a two-issue character and then he was he was going to be never heard from ever again and then they were trying to i don't know if you remember there was this well you definitely don't remember but there was this magazine called like hulk magazine it wasn't a cop wasn't necessarily a comic book it was like hulk magazine it was like the size not not like pages wise but like the size of like our old rolling stone magazine like it was a bigger it was a bigger comic book with bigger pages and the hulk was in

the front and then there was a lot of like short stories in the back and that's where they tested a lot and moon knight was kind of tested in that he he passed and then he kept they kept trying to make him a thing they kept bringing him in and then he wasn't selling well they'd cancel him bring him back and he wouldn't sell then he'd cancel so there's a there's so much moon knight retconning that it just wouldn't work as a movie i'd like this is the way it changed through each one too was it completely it is so fascinating what they've done to him like over the years because like you want like we could just dive into like a real like yeah a super like rough intro to moon knight was he was originally a villain for the werewolf by night who's werewolf when i just your generic werewolf back and they were trying to make that thing like

the horror maybe in this they're saying maybe yeah i want to say that was in the mid 70s early 70s and then in the early 80s they tried to make him his first solo character. And he was Mark Spector. And he was a kid who his father was a rabbi who fled Europe before the Holocaust happened to escape the Holocaust. And weirdly enough, Mark Spector, the kid was like, you should have stayed and fought back. So he just hated his father. Very, very, very bizarre. back so he just hated his father very very very bizarre um and so he joins right so he joins the military becomes a little disillusioned and then

he breaks off and joins i think he was in like the cia and then he becomes uh a mercenary and this is where he meets like this archaeologist who kind of hires his this crew to go like explore i don't think they said egypt but basically egypt because marvel always has like these you know i'm not quite sure and he meets this character called bushman who bushman is kind of like his like his villain like he's in a lot he's not necessarily on the level like joker green goblin lex luthor but he's always there like he over like the he's the most consistent villain in the moon knight like pantheon and bushman at the time he you can kind of tell he's a bad guy

but he's not a flat-out bad guy eventually they find this tomb or like pyramid or some ancient structure and they want to like plunder it bushman kills the archaeologist his daughter marlene is also there and then bushman and mark specter get into a fight and bushman just beats him down like beats him to basically to an inch of his life and just leaves him in the desert and marlene brings him and like leaves him in this like pyramid structure thing in front of this tall statue of the of this egyptian moon knight khonshu which is a very important name and then kh conshu speaks to him in his mind and is like i'll make you a deal i will give you my powers if you become my like

avatar my champion on earth and he's like and mark specter is like let's do it so mark specter comes back essentially comes back to life as with like these moon knight powers uh beats up uh bushman uh and takes this like statue back with him to the united states and it's him it's his friend frenchie it's marlene and like a few other like ragtag group of misfits and then this is where and like that's just his introduction and then from here is where the building blocks of the Moon Knight mythos kind of become very, like, it didn't start off like this. And then eventually, I think, like, 30, 40 years later, they're like, wow, this worked out. This actually worked out. And this is not the plan.

So Mark Spector goes back to the United States. And he's like, well, I need to be like, I need to explain that what I i'm doing like how i get all this money and stuff so he basically recreates this identity called steve grant who is basically bruce wayne and moon night is like his batman and then he's like so he's steve grant the multi-millionaire playboy and then he's like well i need to learn what's happening on the street level like i need to know like the crime like the street level crime and i can't do that as steve grant so he becomes jake the cab driver so that's his like other character he's playing so basically you have mark specter the mercenary uh steve grant

the multi-millionaire and then jake the cab driver are his like three characters and then from here there's a little teasing that he might have some sort of mental illness and these aren't just characters he's creating like he has like multiple personalities i was gonna ask that yeah so then eventually it was canceled in like after a few years because it just he was basically just batman but in the marvel universe it just wasn't overly interesting to me as a batman guy it is my question to you like is he similar to batman i guess that so he he was at that time and then he was relaunched a few years ago and he got like powers he got egypt this is where he got like egyptian themed weapons he got his like uh like golden ank his boomerangs his like the batarang yeah yeah yeah bingo uh and basically he's just

batman again and then it gets canceled again and then he's this he comes back again and he joins west coast avengers which is like when they were there was too many avengers happening and this is when stan lee in the real world moved to california it's like the nwo when they fractured off into too many it was one thousand hundred percent bingo and in the real world stanley moved to california so he's like well let's make west coast avengers so moon knight kind of became that and there was this i remember there was this weird arc where he had to go back into ancient egypt because naturally the avengers got stuck in time so they're stuck in ancient egypt so moon Knight had to go back in time and save them. And then it turns out that Hawkeye actually designed his weapons like

centuries ago. And then eventually they were, it was like a big time loop thing. It was very, it was a little weird. And then he started dating that character, Tigger, who's basically like a cat woman,

like really a cat. But he's not. Correct. Moon Knight was dating T was dating Tigger, but he wasn't a team player um but he's not correct moon knight was dating t was dating tigra but he wasn't a team player like he's it's like batman and the avengers like he just doesn't need them he's kind of his own thing and then i'm sure a lot of our list the listeners of this episode are aware of what of this this very controversial arc where phantom Rider kind of assaults Mockingbird. Mockingbird was Hawkeye's girlfriend and Mockingbird of then lets Phantom Rider fall to his death,

which is kind of a big deal in the Marvel comic book at the time. And, and then Hawkeye breaks up with Mockingbird and Mockingbird leaves. And since she's friends with Tigra, Moon Knight goes with her and Tigra. Eventually Moon Knight learns that Khonshu would take over his body and she's friends with tigra moon knight goes with her and tigra eventually uh moon knight learns that conshu would take over his body and grant him powers under the full moon and then eventually conshu leaves his body so that mark specter is just a guy he's basically he is batman he has no

strength anymore so does he only have the powers under a full moon then uh it's at its maximum when it's a full moon so it's like they're they're they're level so if it's like a waning moon or crescent moon he's not as powerful but the fuller the moon the stronger he gets it is very sick and then eventually like we're gonna get into it later but like the bad guy that eked and hawk is playing which makes no sense to me and i'll get to that in a second like that's what it's i was at like i watched the trailer and everyone on the comments were like make sure you leave the subtitles on so i did and then when i saw the name of ethan hawke's character i was like what

like that's stupid but like i read that they've changed things up like he's kind of they took him from like a scientist to a cult leader basically oh he's in one one he's in one issue in oh in the annals of time ethan hawke's character is in one issue and it's not who it was too 100 because like it's it was a very interesting arc like that one issue was interesting yeah and we'll get into that issue it was a good issue. It was a really good issue. But the only similarity between Ethan Hawke's character and the character he plays in the comic book is the name. Everything else is different. It would be like if they made the Riddler and all of a sudden he looks like, I don't know, the Hulk. Like, that's not the Riddler.

It just happens to be the Riddler's name. They were like, that was a sick name. Yeah. Maybe it's just a big one. Pretty much. They're like like we don't want this name to go to waste yeah uh eventually he returns to new york uh because he was in california and moon knight and he has no powers and he's just a guy uh he sacrifices himself to save marlene and frenchie canceled again so he's canceled again he gets relaunched in the early 2000s and this is when marvel was starting to like there was a lot of uh like marvel knights like this is when like like uh warren ellis is

writing punisher and like daredevil was like was like the best daredevil like the most violent daredevil i've ever seen and moon knight was relaunched here too and he was just shockingly violent like he was crazy like it was i was reading i was like damn like this is i am uncomfortable reading this like he like has anger issues where he's like beating up uh because because through the time like moon knight does not care if villains die like he's not trying to kill you but if you die that sucks like he moves on he's not a great difference from Batman. Yeah. 100%.

Differentiating factor. Exactly. Not trying to kill him. Not trying to kill. But if it happens, so be it. And they kind of retcon him, too. They kind of bump him up in time. Like, no longer was he in Vietnam War.

He was in the Gulf War. And, like, it's all kind of nonsense. He kills Bushmen in this arc by cutting his face off. Like, he skins him and, like like rips his face off uh little combat fatality bingo at this time his best his like best friend frenchy who isn't a butler but kind of is the alfred like he's not a hero but he's just kind of a guy that helps out a lot they make frenchy gay for no reason and he like comes out and professes love to mark great awesome didn't really need to happen but cool good on you

civil war happens like the original civil war and he signs with tony stark but there's this very interesting part where he's like now he's starting to be wacko like he's starting to be wacko like he has all these multiple personalities and you have to go through a therapy session to get approved by the government like by screening processes you're mentally sane oh and conshue chords so conshue the god in him basically tricks like uses his powers to trick the therapist into letting moon knight pass the screening because there's no way Moon Knight would pass the screening regardless. So he

joins the Avengers still. Khonshu eventually leaves his body again and Moon Knight fakes his death after fighting the Thunderbolts somewhere in South America. I'm not quite sure. And then at this point the Mark Spector character dies and Jake

the cab driver takes over. mark is dead jake is here it's very interesting it's very this is where it gets interesting and jake since he's like surface level he wants to he returns to new york city and he wants to take vengeance on norman osborne because norman osborne was the leader of the thunderbolts uh and with as like iron patron everything and red hood resurrects bushman it's a whole thing conchu returns um and he's like beating up a guy and mark ignored conchu's like his whispering like do it do it like kill him kill him and mark is like nah mark comes back returns to marlene uh and then there's like shadow knight comes and like Shadow Knight is like his brother. But is it his brother?

It's like evil Moon Knight. Oh, little Scorpion Sub-Zero action. That's actually a very good comparison. Very, very good comparison. His brother Randall. You're killing it, Bob. His brother Randall, who I thought was who Ethan Hawke was going to play. When they announced Ethan Hawke, I'm like, that has to be Randall Speck. It has to be.

Jake eventually kills Randall and the Mark personality comes back. As you do. And then eventually he moves back to LA and he's working on a... he becomes an actor called... and he's like...

and this is when Brian Michael Bendis takes over. He's working on a TV show about Khons konshu and there's this really interesting dynamic where he's always talking to wolverine spider-man and captain america they're like coming to to talk to uh the moon knight like the actor but we the readers don't know if they're actually there like they could be figments of his imagination like they're they're like they're talking to him on the balcony and then someone will come around and then he turns around and they're gone and he's like oh they must have had to go fight crime or something like that so this is where he starts seeing things and eventually canceled and brought

back again uh this time warren ellis is writing him and this is where uh he you get technically his fourth personality and it's just called mr knight and this is where you might see a lot of this was a big cosplay when it came out this is where moon knight doesn't wear the hood or the cape or any of like the superhero stuff he wears a white suit and a white mask and a white glove so it's basically a white james bond with a mask it's very very cool he's more of a detective and he's helping police solve crimes and this is where uh mark's person like you find out all about all of his personalities like all of them that split up at this by the end of this arc it turns out that we find that because he's been in

mess with his head so much he has actual brain damage like his brain is deteriorating and then as you do Moon Knight gets cancelled and it comes back and this time Jeff Lemire is writing it and this is where moon night became this is i would not on the same level as the hot as the fraction hawkeye run

but like a notch below this is where this is moon night's best arc this is where people should pick up if they're looking to get into the character? That's hard to say because it's out there. But this is what I think the show is going to be loosely based off of. Because if I had to pick a Moon Knight arc or storyline to use as anything, it's this one. Because Jeff Lemire used the entire gamut of Moon Knight's history in one arc and made it unbelievable. That's since gone, but that is a very brief run of what Moon Knight's history has been. And then it turns out some people consider the Moon Knight hero as one of his personalities.

Some people don't. That's like a debate online. But he has four personalities, possibly five if you count Moon Knight hero as one of his personalities. Some people don't. That's like a debate online. But he has four personalities, possibly five if you count Moon Knight. It's Mark Spector, Steve, Jake, Mr. Knight, and Moon Knight if you want to include him in there. Those are the five. But this, yeah, that's like a very

brief, brief shortened history of the Moon Knight title title i'm excited about this i'm excited just to meet all these different characters of just him right i know i didn't even realize that like i see why you say it'd be good for a tv show because you could spend an episode with each personality right so i think so i saw the trailer uh it was like played during the super bowl or something like that or before or after. And as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, they're doing the Jeff Lemire one.

They are doing it. So the beginning of the Jeff Lemire run, Marks, it is, oh, man, it is not. I'm trying to think of where to start. So, like, Mark Spector wakes up and he has no idea he's ever been. Like, he has forgotten everything, everything about himself. Well, sort of. But he's in a mental asylum and he's when he when he's talking to Khonshu in his head. But the way it's drawn is like Khonshu is like sitting at at like a like a desk and like Mark Spector is like a therapy in a therapy session now if you saw the trailer there's a real brief flash of like a like the back of a alleyway or like a hallway and you see this person standing with like a crazy like helmet thing yeah that is konshu that because konshu in this comic book is

wearing a white tuxedo but his head is the skull of like a bird of like a raven and that it is such a striking image and yeah i i can't wait for you guys to see it it looks freaky in the trailer like it's a little like it's like crawling into the elevator right i think that's the part of the trailer okay okay so that scene was lifted straight from the Lemire comic book. So I was going to get to this later. So basically, like, real briefly, Mark is in the mental asylum, and he's constantly getting, like, his ass beaten by orderlies, and he's going through electric shock therapy,

and he's talking to Khonshu in his head. And Jeff Lemire has – so there's a handful of characters that have been in, like, every Moon Knight arc ever. Like, Gina, Mark, who's like like Mark Crawley's like this hobo that was like in the original run was like his informant on the street. Gina owns like a diner and was like, hey, he would like go in and be like, Gina, what's the word? And she's like, tell him, oh, this guy's selling drugs. And then like Marlene, his girlfriend, who's like his Lois Lane or his Mary Jane. These characters are in frenchy are in all

every moon night story like ever and he's in the asylum and gina crawley marlene frenchy they're all in like with him they're all quote-unquote inmates so what jeff lemire has done is basically did moon knight exist at all ever so like mark crawley mark crawley's not mark mark not uh mark specter's watching tv and he sees the moon knight hero on tv so jeff lemire has written it so we the readers are like has any of this actually happened ever? Or has all of Moon Knight since like 1970, whatever, to present, has this all been just in Mark's head? And we don't, like, it took a long time. And like, there was, there's like a really, there's like, there's a really cool scene where he goes into like his session

with his real doctor. And he's like, I'm Moon Knight. Like, I know I was Moon Knight. And the doctor's like, Mark, like, I thought we were past this. He's like i'm moon knight like i know i was moon knight and the doctor's like mark like i thought we were past this he's like look and he likes because mark has since it has since revealed in that arc that mark was in the asylum since he was like 12 or 13 and he pulls he goes remember this and it's like his notebook from like when he was like a teenager and it's all drawings of moon knight adventures from his head so we're like what what's happening if we get ready for this show yeah like a scene where it's like this show might

not have existed holy fuck it's gonna blow my mind the sucks are coming out bob we're gonna which real what's not the real is the fake oh it's and you don't like it's it's really hard to pull that off on pages because like i was you're questioning i like as i had read a lot of moon night but not enough to be like all right i'm an expert but i've since went back and read after the lemire lemire made me want to go back and reread i'm like dude did any but it's weird reading it like did this happen did he go to egypt did he do this what did he do and he's like there's like this other scene where he's talking in his head he's like going to bed and he's and khonshu's like arise my champion

like enough of this you know you're better than this so mark specter like gets out of bed and like takes all his sheets and his pillows and like cuts them up and he like puts a pillowcase on his head and like ties his blankets around his like shoulders and like takes a sharpie and like draws a moon and he's like i must save the day and he like breaks out and he runs the roof and all of new york is under sand and there's egyptian pyramids coming out of the ground and then conchu's like this is my like because conchu has an evil brother seth very silly name right yes? Yeah. Yeah. Right? I know. It's very bizarre. And he's like, look, I told you this. I've been telling you Seth is invading, like, from his dimension. And he's like, New York needs you.

Like, go save the day. And then the orderlies catch up and grab him and, like, inject him with the sedative. And then Mark, like, snaps out of it. And he's on the roof. And everything's normal. Nothing was there. So he's like, and Mark's like snaps out of it and he's on the roof and everything's normal nothing was there so he's like and mark's like what happened what happened like and then at this point mark is like no man i'm moon knight like forget y'all i am moon knight and then he starts uh conch who starts telling him that like that doctor is dr amut who's like an evil like demon from egypt like that's not a real doctor and then he's

like i'm like it i'm like what is real because like the way lemire wrote it is every issue would end i'm like what is happening like what is real and what is not it was unbelievable so eventually as you do in the marvel world there's a bunch of multiverses and then conchu's like their pocket dimensions and one of them is called like the over void or the o void or something void and he's like that is conchu's world that is our world we're not oh by the way we're not egyptian gods we just there's a line he uses where there's you can there's a correlation to the drop in miracles to the rise in technology so it was very easy to manipulate ancient egypts because they didn't have technology so when they saw a miracle they're like oh praise conshu blah blah praise seth uh uh so i know very bizarre and mark was basically chosen because he has a weak mind not because he

was dying but because like you are mentally weak which is why you are more susceptible to our manipulation you were beaten down by bushman and that is why you are like that is why we took over your body because you are weak. You are not as strong as you think. And Mark's like, oh, man, like, F me, right? Like, I thought I was this big hero. But now I'm finds out that I'm like, I'm mentally weak and I'm being taken advantage of. So it eventually, Khonshu again convinces Seth that the ancients of like evil are coming, like the doctors and all this stuff. And in this, he's like, since you are my vessel,

because it's so perfectly written, no one else can see these evil monsters but you. You are the only one in the world who can see. So they exist, but he's the only one that can see them. Do they exist, though? That's the thing. I'm going to break this down for the people who are swimming in it, because we're going to have to do a three-cheat, one that could see him do they exist though that's the thing let's go like i'm gonna break this down for the people who are like swimming in it because we're gonna have to do like a three

cheat like a a pre-three and then a post-three where we can like our minds can unwrap everything i'm gonna say this is what it sounds like to me our guy conshu here i don't know if you guys have seen the tinder swindler our guy conshu he sounds like the tinder swindler right he's here telling you how he's a fucking you know a billionaire he has you know the heir to the diamond throne all this kind of stuff and mark he's you know one of the nice young ladies who's just along for the ride and and fucking conch who's like these guys you know the people trying to help you they're your enemies the enemies are after me they're after you you. Boom. So we just figured out. Conshu is Tinder swindling Mark.

Pretty much. Well, the thing is, we don't know if Conshu is evil or good. At this point, we don't know. We know that he worked with Mark since the 70s. But this arc, we the readers are like, this doesn't. Makes you rethink everything. Correct. And as you saw in the trailer when like that old woman was coming towards the elevator and mark is like what's happening and then she

enters the elevator and it's just a woman yeah conchu's like conchu's like you're not crazy that woman is actually a demon and you're the only one that can see him but to like us we're like who's this crazy man yeah why is this man just flailing about fighting invisible monsters that we can't see so we the reader like what is happening so eventually the patients plan the escape and mark is like no we have to bring gina and marlene they're part of the crew so gina marlene crawley everyone breaks out and they're like running like through the corridors and then the walls start to turn into like hieroglyphic ancient egypt and i'm just like well he's crazy

and then but then all the people around him like his crew they see it too so i'm like what i'm like what's happening i'm like i'm like what like is nuts. And then the orderly show up with the doctor and they all have like demon heads. So I'm like this. I don't know what's real. Like, I generally don't know what's real. I hope the show is like this where we don't know what's real and what's fake. Oh,

I, I personally, and like, I was like talking to a lot of people that are reading, like we didn't, like we did not know. Like, I didn't know if they were trying to end Moon Knight

and reboot him like they've done a thousand times. Right. Because since the history is there, did they kill? Are they going to kill Mark Spector, this and that? So eventually, the orderlies catch up to him and they inject him with the tranquilizer thing again and he snaps out of it. And the ancient hieroglyphic world is just the New York City subway.

He's like what i'm just like what the fuck is happening right now like the other word like he keeps bouncing back and forth between ancient egypt and modern time and then eventually uh he just he's like you know what f this he like punches the orderlies and like runs and he's like escaping and conscious like that's right let your insanity guide you embrace your embrace the insane is like something he said it's like conjures like his imaginary friend like whispering in his ear and then he like reaches this like spork in the road and he has like this it's basically like the matrix like red pill blue pill type situation

like you can go back to this comforting world or you can like embrace the brace the chaos embrace your insane brain and he takes the insane way and naturally he meets up with his friends who happen to take the right path. And who's waiting for them? Anubis of all people, the ancient guide that brings people to the nether

world in ancient Egypt. But in this world, he can transport you from, as you do in the Marvel world, multiverses and interdimensions it's all kind of nonsense uh crawley the old man basically sacrifices his soul for anubis to save them and then they go from like this ancient pyramid setting back to new york but new york is empty and there's just sand everywhere and then like a cop comes up he's like what are you guys doing out here because the cop can't see everything he's like who are you and and he's like what are you guys doing and mark's

like get away from me bow and it's like punching in the face and then just like and he like rips the cop's face off and it's a monster like scooby-doo stock oh shit gotcha and then i'm like i'm like what is happening jose i've gone back and forth like five times just you me too yeah snip snap snip snap yeah conch who's real conch who's gonna tell you to open an american express card and forward him fifty thousand dollars all right i hate to cut off this very, very intriguing podcast with Jose, but I got to tell everyone about HelloFresh. With HelloFresh, you get farm fresh pre-portioned ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep. You skip those trips to the grocery store and count on HelloFresh to make home cooking easy, fun, and affordable. That is why

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a new moon night not mark specter someone else if they're killing off i thought they were like representing them killing off like all of his friends over the last like 30 40 years that they're just gonna do away with the character. And something new is going to have so much like ultimate Spider-Man or like one of the four ghost rides that has existed. And then eventually they make, they find they're running and they find Gina's old diner and they're like, Oh,

we need food. So they go inside and there's like this really funny scene where Moon Knight like goes to the bathroom Kanji's sitting in the toilet. And he's like, we need to save the world. And you're having pancakes right now. And Mark's like, yeah, I want pancakes. Chill out, bro. So then he's like, we got to go.

And at this point, Marlene wakes up, who's like the lowest lane person up to his world. And then Gina's like, you know, is where I belong in the in the diner I'm like well there goes Gina so like three people down two left so then naturally they're running and they find the temple of Seth in like New York and they're attacked

and they're like I keep picturing Seth Green yeah basically basically and then who attacks them moon knight attacks moon knight but the moon knight like in the robe and everything not the suit because at this point he's wearing the suit he's mr knight he's mr knight and moon knight attacks him and then who the fuck is mark marlene remembers everything at this point and is like no we we were in ancient egypt like we did all of these things and she's like remembering i'm like so did this happen what's

happening so then mark specter starts fighting moon knight and then he ends up falling through a door and he ends up on the moon and then he goes back through the door and then he's attacked by more monsters and then he runs through another door and all of a sudden he's steve grant on the movie set and he's like what i was on the moon they were the monsters and then he goes through another door and all of a sudden uh the orderlies are trying to attack him again and then he runs through another door and all of a sudden he's the cab driver so he's basically like reliving all of his characters. Yeah. And then at this point, Mark is like all of my characters, all of my personalities were their own person,

but they all serve a purpose. So he's like coming to grips with what happens to his mind. Like all of these characters that I created were important and integral parts. He finally finds the final door and he goes through and he finds Seth chained up. Not what country, not what conchu told him yeah conchu said he was running the shit did conchu have seth chained up conchu has tricked mark specter because he wants he wants to kill mark specter swindled he wants to kill the mark specter personality and take over the body because

khonshu needs a physical body that but he doesn't want mark specter's messing around so then he does mark is like f you man and he like runs and he jumps off the pyramid and kills himself and i'm like oh they did kill him like i this is what i thought was going to happen and then what happens he gets resurrected he wakes up as steve grant the million it's not a bed like groundhog day does he wake up to that song all you happy campers i hope so man so it's like that is what this the show is but like It's such an interesting character. And I think Jeff Lemire used everything that happened to him over 40 years and mashed it. Did this happen?

Did it not happen? Are his personalities real? Are they not? Pocket dimensions, this and that. It's all very interesting stuff. And I really hope the show is like this. So that day and night Kid Cudi, we're really dealing with. He's living day and night, fucking upside down that we're really dealing with he's living day night fucking upside down left side boom multi-dimensional you said it man do you like the oscar isaac

casting do you think he's like good as mark specter yeah because mark specter is just like generic guy uh and i'm not saying oscar isaac is a generic guy but i think he he fits the bill perfectly he's also an incredibly talented actor and i And I think he's one of those few guys that can play like four people. True. I mean, look at him as like Poe Dameron versus his character in Ex Machina. And you're like, all right, those are two different human beings right there. Or like Dune. He played like he was awesome in Dune as well.

He was sweet in Dune. I didn't. I was real because I heard that he was going to join I'm like who's going to play and then they announced Moon Knight I was like oh perfect beautiful love it love everything about that casting Moon Knight's powers what are we dealing with in terms of like his you know on the back of his

comic book card strength speed agility like the highlight there's like like the so Ethan Hawke's character is uh arthur harrow i believe because they don't say it in the trailer but if you look that was when i read all the comments everyone's like if you've read the comic books we're not going to spoil if you put on the like the captions and when ethan hawke's character starts to talk it says

arthur harrow colon I'm like, what? That's such a, that's such a random character. But like Arthur Harrow is just a doctor who has like a disease who is like kidnapping migrant workers to experiment on them to cure himself. And this was a weird time when like moon night, there were these three like priests of Khonshu that were basically his Batsim signal. Like like he would he could be like drinking coffee and then you just hear like moon knight we need you and then like you see their

heads floating around him gotcha so it's like you know so he's like driving and then all of a sudden it's like moon knight he's like god damn it where am i going so he's like we need you to go to south the konshu moon knight relationship is almost like almost like Eddie and Brock a little bit. Or Eddie Brock and Venom. Eddie and Brock. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It's very similar to... It's more like Hulk and...

And Bruce Banner. Gotcha. Yeah, except you're not... Like, does... Oh, man. I'm going to circle back around to that in a second. I'm going to circle back around to that in a second. But he goes to south america to like because they're like you have to go to south america something's happening to migrant

workers and he's like all right so he goes and then he meets this girl who's like also investigated but she's like part she's actually investigating is like why are these missing people going like yeah he's not a hero and they find the compound and like the moon is out so there's like barbed wire and like gates and he's like the moon is out and he like rips the door open and then they're like there's a hidden wall here so he like picks up like a desk and like chucks it through the wall because the moon is out so and then and then they find like this all of the experimented people are actually zombie people now. And this shadow agency is controlling Arthur Harrow.

And they're like, we need you to finish your thing. And Arthur Harrow's like, you can't rush perfection, blah, blah, blah. And then eventually Moon Knight kicks in the door, saves the day. Arthur Harrow escapes. And he's never seen again. Good arc, though. Good arc. the door saves the day uh arthur harrow escapes and he's never seen again good arc though good arc yeah and it sounds like that could happen based on like you see he's like controlling what looks like a cult in the trailer so it's like maybe those are the people who winds up experimenting on or something like that so i i honestly like i wouldn't be surprised if they

just used the name and there was nothing to do with the character which i would normally i have an issue with but it's he arthur harrell is so minor it's not like taskmaster right that's that's the difference oh shoot yeah one thousand percent so like like arthur harrell cool cool sounding name he has long hair but i really thought he was going to be randall specter mark specter's brother because he kind of looks like him uh so if they if there's a second season that has to be it has to be because he's like the he's he's like his physical foil like they're they're the same person essentially is evil moon knight is seth important enough to the moon knight i guess saga that we're going to get Seth in the show, you think? I think I'm going to say Seth. Maybe S-E-T-H. Like Seth the Sloth. Like Seth Rollins.

Yeah. Maybe because Khonshu is really the one that's pulling the strings in a lot of these things. So I think it's going to be like Khonshu is going to be the bad guy after all. Like the whole arc conchu is telling mark all of this stuff and it turns out he's being manipulated how do you move on past that without having him like kill himself and wait it was gone wake up it could be like they've done

this thing like when conchu's left his body and he just stayed his moon night so because con there was an arc where conchu's's like, oh, you thought I remember one of the times it was cancelled and Khonshu left him. Khonshu said something like, oh, you think you're my only champion? I have other people to go to.

So he left. Yeah, so that might be the thing. And then Moon Knight might have to go hunt him out. But there's like, based on what is upcoming in the MCU in general, not just Moon Knight, there's a lot of different routes. Like Christian Bale's character, Gore the God Butcher. If I'm the MCU, I might try to introduce him because Gore the God Butcher hunts gods. Khonshu is a god, so he could be one of

the few. But then you can't have Gore the God Butcher without Null, who is one of the best villains created over the last 25 years. It's really difficult in modern comic books to create a villain that sticks. Like when hush was introduced in 03 nailed it like the batman

who laughs the man who laughs the batman like the visor and the spider thing nailed it when they introduced null it was like an injection of adrenaline into marvel like they rewrote everything all of marvel lore not just spider-man because he's the god of the symbiotes they rewrote the entire m marvel universe and i was here for and he was directly responsible for why go why gore the god butcher exists and he has a red thing on his chest and he can have a bunch of arms. And he has this black swirly stuff coming around him. And what did you see in the Multiverse of Madness trailer that just dropped? Oh, Doctor Strange had the fucking all the arms, right?

With the black swirly thing coming around with red eyes. When that happened, a bunch of people were like, did you see? No. I'm like, huh? And I like, wait, watch. That could be no. And I am here for it. i'm so here for it so there's like there's a lot of there's a lot of paths they could take i looked up null here and his nickname first one cosmic satan i'm sold because there's this there's this scene there's like so null was existed before everything everything in the world he was there

and he floated in nothingness he was empty it was just black it was nothing there was no stars there was no life there was no plants there's empty void and he was happy and then as i mentioned in the eternals podcast life was created and he's like what is this shit like get out of here like what is all this light in my darkness so then there's like a battle between gods and then he creates the symbiotes to be like his agents so then he makes a planet of symbiotes it's actually a jail of symbiotes and then he comes back and he finds the venom the venom symbiote is like not is not important he's just a symbiote he's. He happens to be one.

And Null and Eddie Brock are arguing. And Null is like, do you know what his name is? And he's like, who? He goes, your entity, your symbiote. Do you know what his real name is? And Eddie's like, huh? And I was the reader. I was like, huh huh what is his name so that's they

make you question everything again it is not grogu yeah i was but uh it was a whole thing and uh christian and so the first real symbiote was gore the god butcher basically gets the first symbiote like centuries ago and he starts to kill god where the god butcher is a symbiote uh his weapon is basically part of null that's christian bale's character so i'm like i'm very much i have one of the books with gore the god butcher up there oh he's great he's such an interesting character um i was really happy that the guy jason jason aaron run is that right yeah yeah that's like gore gore is a character that i don't think needs to be used often but so when he is does does appear

it feels like a big deal and christian bale like him appearing in the mcu feels like a big deal as it is oh and they nailed him like he's one of the things that you brought up before that i feel like they should do in Moon Knight, and it would be such a great way to bring back, if you wanted to in the future, even people like Tony Stark or Steve Rogers, without making it feel cheap, have the scene where he's talking to Captain America and Iron Man,

and he doesn't realize they're not really there. And if you brought them back for a 30-second cameo for that, that would be pretty awesome. Dude, there's so many things they could do like because moon knight has had such an there's been great writers they just haven't stuck uh they just i'm confident about the writers on this show too because they just gave them another show or movie i forget what it was but everyone's like damn they must have enjoyed their moon night episodes because they just gave them more shit oh good to hear so uh

and there's like i looked at the rest of the cast i don't quite know who's playing there's like a lot of characters i don't recognize their names like one of them's name was leila and there was this big uproar like is that leila i think leila miller is her name who's like the central character of the house of m care arc i'm just like bringing up the house of m i'm like i hope it i don't think so but that was a big fever pitch on and like the the hero like comic book circles like is this how they're doing it i'm like they're not going to introduce house of m in moon night that would be very bizarre i mean especially with like multiverse of madness coming up everything that looks like it kind of looks like they're taking it there right and moon knight that what

he was part of like the marvel knights arc where he like worked with blade and like morbius and all these guys like that might be where they take this one right they are for sure i would imagine black knight is that the the john snow character yeah but he's... Yeah, but he's more of an Avengers-type character than a Marvel Knights character. Marvel Knights is like... The original Midnight Suns is Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze, Doctor Strange, Morbius, the Darkhold crew.

I think that's... Oh, the Night Stalkers, so Blade, Frank Drake, and Hannibal King, and then eventually you introduce Vengeance and various other supernatural heroes. It's basically just supernatural Avengers that deal with the mysticals. But not really Black Knight to an extent,

but Moon Knight, obviously, because he has ancient God in him, has tangled with that crew a few times. Does he ever work with daredevil moon knight yeah when he was in the marvel knights but nothing like super specific i think there is actually now that you mention it there is an arc where he starts what was the name of the arc where it's a daredevil arc but moon knight is in it and it kind of it dives into like his psyche but he's like a side character so they do he tangles with all those street level characters part of like the secret

war kind of thing too he's just kind of a forgotten hero for a few years he's part of secret wars the second secret wars uh the one with like the nick like the nick there's like there's like five or six of them but like they took all this yeah there's like there's like the the big secret wars like the 90s were like the event everyone likes that one yeah yeah but then like the best secret wars is the one from like the early 2000s where like they take like daredevil captain america wolverine spider-man luke cage oh i think you told us a little bit about that one yeah like they drop them into different countries right and it's like they wipe their minds afterwards drop them into latin area dr doom's household and that's that sounds that's the best one the original

secret war which was cool it was just a little long this one was like perfect yeah um here's a big question that i think me and clem both wrote down where the hell do these moon knight memes come from there's moon knight memes oh the internet i know incredible because like i said where the dracula war because like i said where the dracula war was like dracula where's my fucking money and this and that someone just thought i don't know where they originated from they've been going on for a bit it's like like the 19 like what's that 1967 like spider-man tv show yeah like they have those memes too for whatever reason moon knight is just the guy to use in memes i think it's just because he looks kind of goofy

they're like good memes too like oh they're there's some of them that crack me up where he's talking shit to the other superheroes and he just like is using the most vulgar language in the world i thought they were real at first i think you were the one that were like no no listen he's a good character but he's not doing that i was all right when i saw that i'll be that's my fucking favorite superhero you would talk like that too like moon knight is like you might die like all right like f you and he'll just like break brick on you it's pretty great bring in the rumors i think are that they're bringing in dracula as the first villain for blade and if that's true i would love for moon knight to get in there and just recreate that meme and live

action be like where's my fucking money dracula that would be interesting because right now in the current marvel world it's not just a moon knight arc like vampires are kind of the thing really yeah like it's kind of like in a good way sort of i think like it was it was it was interesting because you've never like you said like you never expect vampires to kind of be the thing but that's kind of what's driving a lot of the marvel storylines right now is like vampires and stuff is there one overarching like vampire control on them i'm not quite sure uh i'm there might be i've been i read a little bit because moon knight originally was moon knight and because moon knight is stronger with the moon out he was kind of the guy that was hunting a lot of these vampires.

Like he would like stake them in the hearts and such with his moon stakes. Right. So that's the path they take. Then I would be all for that too. And they keep saying that this is going to be the most violent Marvel show they've ever put out. They're like, we are leaning into darkness with this one.

So it's like, hopefully they really lead into that. Give us a little variety, make it look like the daredevil Netflix series in terms of of like the fucking beatdowns which by the way i started watching daredevil they took it off netflix as soon as i started now i gotta wait till march 16th they put it on disney plus i like as soon as i started they took it off i liked the first season a lot i got about halfway through the second season i was like i don't need this in my life anymore i just kind of gave up because daredevil was my guy there was like a like a three or four year arc

where i just consumed all of Daredevil. The second season left much to be desired. Did you like, and you might have, may not have read this. Did you like Daredevil's or Kevin Smith's Daredevil run of the comics? Yeah, Guardian Devil. It is somewhere behind me.

I know a lot of people like seem to dig that and they're like Kevin Smith, like actually helped Marvel in the 90s doing that. Yeah, it was. The Guardian Devil one was fantastic and i've argued because like mysterio was a joke for a long time oh didn't he make a different version of mysterio his own version sort of where is it somewhere behind me anyway, Mysterio ends up being the main bad guy. In the whole Guardian Devil thing. I can't

tell you what happens until you've seen the Daredevil show. Can't spoil it. But someone dies. There's a baby involved. Black Widow is in it. And then

Daredevil Born Again is one of the five greatest Marvel arcs ever. Who's that by? Frank Miller. Oh, that makes sense. Who's, like, the greatest, the best. Like, his Daredevil is, like, God level. Like, his run with Daredevil is better than Matt Fraction's run with Hawkeye. Saying a lot.

Born Again is, again is if you do a list of the hundred greatest marvel comic books the first issue of the born again series is like top three how do you rank like frank miller projects like dark knight returns fucking wolverine and daredevil born again year one is his best thing he's ever done oh year one i'm forgetting that too year one is his best i got the absolute i'd probably put there i'd probably put born again second and the dark never turns and the wolverine and then like honestly what is it giant the the road sin city obviously oh yeah strikes against way down the list uh yeah all-star badminton rob is way down the list. All-Star Badminton Robins is way down the list.

Holy Terror is at the bottom of the list. Xerxes is at the bottom of the list. Has he made anything good recently? He wrote, or I'm using, people that only listen to this, I'm using air quotes. He wrote, what's somewhere around, somewhere back there. He wrote Master master race which is right here he wrote batman master race with uh brian azzarillo but the rumor is that he got

really like loopy and old that basically brian azzarillo wrote this and frank miller's like this is what i want to happen and then like brian azarillo just like did the rest did the heavy lifting this was fine it's like right in the middle but like carrie i thought you're gonna be like awesome you're like fine good art like really good art uh like kubert draws it but like all the heroes come back and it just ends silly because bruce wayne becomes young again and carrie from darkening returns becomes batwoman so it's just yeah it is what they continue that they continue from that story so frank miller's universe is technically his its own like it is technically its own world it goes batman year one uh all-star batman and robin technically if you want to get like real into the nitty-gritty his his two batman spawn runs

are also part of this world uh where batman dies and he brings him back to life and then there's another one where it's his version of how jason todd dies somewhere back at you that was also different version of jason todd dying yes it's one issue um it's not very good good art john remita jr drew it so it's great art the story is fine it's just you know jason todd dies so like that's what i'm just really really reading it for that and then after that it's dark knight returns dark knight strikes again uh batman master race and then they just came out with batman the golden child which is like his shots at donald trump and stuff oh geez yeah and there's been a batman comic book well it's uh i want to escape politics when i open a comic book for the

most part i'm not gonna i'm not even gonna tell you what it's about but dark side is running donald trump's uh presidency did he give dark side his haircut that'd be funny dark side is his campaign manager oh god yeah i know i gotta ask you this jose because you mentioned a minute ago kevin smith so when i heard the name werewolf by night i was like that is the lamest fucking name i've ever heard for a character he must be the lamest comic book but bob said kevin smith said he fucking rules so tell me should i get excited about werewolf by night because if kevin smith says it i'm in if jose says it then i'm really in you gotta get the final he's cool uh he was like in the light set in like the early late 70s probably around when moon knight was in uh it's similar it's just your basic uhwolf superhero type thing. I don't really have

a problem with it. When he pops up into other people's stories, it's kind of fun. I think I've mentioned it before. There's this arc by the Night Stalkers where Blade is the main bad guy called the Midnight Massacre, and he's part of that, where Blade kills him and gets his werewolf powers.

So yeah, I don't personally hate Werewolf by night he's an interesting character that pops up every now and then and when and he's if and you can't have the werewolf by night without the dark hold like crew and i'm a big fan of the dark hole crew and they're doing uh they're doing a halloween special this year with werewolf by night yeah i love everything about it yeah it's like an hour- an hour long Halloween special Sounds cool to me You kind of answered this before but when you're talking multiverses And we're jumping around and you know

Ancient Egypt and all this kind of shit I was thinking are we going to get the big K guy in here But I feel like this like you said He's probably going more to that Vampiry dark black knight That whole thing right He might I can't think of a lot of Kang interactions with Moon Knight, if any.

Okay. But, and I tweeted you those panels of Moon Knight beating up Thor. So that was. With the hammer. He took the fucking hammer, too. He took the hammer. He said it's made out of moon rock. Yes.

Yes. It was a little divisive when it came out but i didn't have an issue with it but age of that arc is called that was sick that arc was called age of conshu where conshu has taken over uh moon knight's body so it's like it's he's basically like he's running the show um and he is convinced mephisto is about to like take over he is going to like wipe out him or something there's some big cataclysm thing so are we and he right we're convinced right oh oh i'm here for it anyway moon knight beat or moon knight when i say moon knight it's konshu moon knight with the konshu like full-powered conchu and moon knight he takes out iron fist

ghost rider and dr strange and takes their powers so he gets iron man iron fists like whatever like powerful magic stuff he takes ghost riders hellfire and he takes dr strange's magic so then he needs one more thing and he goes up and he fights he fights thor on the moon, which means he is never going to be more powerful than when he's physically standing on the moon. And then he... Because when Thor's hammer was originally introduced, it was called Uru. It wasn't called Yolner.

It was Uru. And then they retconned it to be like Uru is the material that it's made out of, which is basically just ancient moon rock. And since Khonshu is like. The god of the moon. He's like I can control this. And he just beats up Thor and takes his hammer.

Kills Mephisto. Like punches a hole through his chest. With Thor's hammer. And then like punches his ashes. With like iron fist power. Blights it on fire with Ghost Rider's fire. And then like sends it into the. The ether with

doctor strange's stuff uh and now and he needs those oh there was this thing called iron man and captain marvel like carol danvers are like working together at this point there's this baby called brandy who is the heir to the star brand which we don't have to get into because that is it's just that is like its thing like that's its own thing um kanju then bounces from multiverse to multiverse fighting all the different mephistos comes back gets in this big fight with black panther and black panther like beats him down and wins because it's like they're hand-to-hand fighting because he needs like wakanda's like something or other okay and then if as if he couldn't this couldn't get crazier than like having iron fist iron like powers ghost rider dr strange with thor's hammer naturally moon night

gets the pho. Jesus Christ. And like, but like Moon Knight, not Khonshu. Mark Spector Moon Knight gets it. And then he fights Khonshu and like punches him back down and wins. But then like all of Moon Knight's like minions are still running the show. So then She-Hulk gets Iron Fist power and Blade gets Doctor Strange's power. And they just have to like clean up and then everyone gets their powers back it's very bizarre oh my god that sounds like a video game where you just get to like be like I'm gonna take this guy's power this it's like you make a

guy in 99 and everything essentially it's like Mega Man you beat the guy you absorb his power all of them at once that's incredible incredible so moon knight's like i said like it feels like every time he's like relaunched or brought back there's like a new little something they can add to the moon knight like mythos it's all very interesting i mean this was an interesting episode i'm excited to see what they add to it in the tv show because i assume they're just going to build on top of it more make it their own and that thanks for schooling us they have they have a big bar to clear just on jose's uh show that i was able to put into my brain in the last hour i know this hour i felt like i just watched the first season and i'm like i need a cigarette

after it because i'm like i don't know i'm about to walk out into jersey city and see some sand out there i if they show that scene in the in the show with him like on the roof because they show that scene in the show, him like on the roof, because they show like the Empire State Building, but then there's like an ancient pyramid like next to it. And it's like a full like double page shot. It's great. It's absolutely great. And if he puts like the blanket on his head and everything and he like doodles

Say that run one more time for the people that want to get that one. Jeff Lemire. So Jeff, have you read anything by Jeff Lemire? He's kind of the guy he wrote um he wrote sweet tooth he wrote essex county he wrote um underwater welder he's awesome he he is so in demand right now that he can really make he can make he can make things very relatable he i like him a lot i mean if you can make moon knight relatable you're the most talented man on the planet you're not wrong moon knight moon knight has moon knight has a very dedicated audience

uh it's but it's small he's very he's a very niche character. Remember those Marvel video games way before the MCU existed? Like the Ultimate Alliance? Yeah. Moon Knight was always a DLC. He was never one of the main guys.

He didn't make it into the game. A lot of heroes made it into those games too. Dude, Ghost Rider was in it and he wasn't even popular at the time but like moon knight was always in it but you it was always like they you had to pay for like and people would but it was he was never he just didn't sell enough books and it's unfortunate because he's very fascinating character and he's he is much more than just marvel's batman i hope that's what people take away from the show because that's what he's very fascinating character and he's he is much more than just marvel's batman i hope that's what people take away from the show because that's what he's kind of been labeled as

for a long time that was one of the things we looked at the trailers we were like marvel's batman from this i don't think so i mean he's got that one personality that's a little bruce wayne like but outside of that i mean the split personalities the james bond personality the conchu shit the ancient egypt the mental illness there's a lot of differences he's not just a white batman and i hope they choose all of his or they show flashes to his because like like the lamir one like he wakes up into the asylum so his life has already happened yeah so i hope i'm glad they're if if that is the route they're taking because moon knight is such the only fault

with Moon Knight is his origin is very paint by numbers like he gets beaten up God gives him powers he goes back to New York like that's it that's not interesting you have to do it in flashes like Jeff Lemire like he wakes up and he's a cab driver

he wakes up and he's a millionaire like that would be very interesting you don't need to back story his whole life almost like memento make us put it together yeah that's a really that's a very good comparison too yeah yeah yeah i've been killing comparisons the next time you're on will probably be for hey we should do a batman episode i was gonna say dr strange but let's do a batman episode before that i will talk about batman as long as you want. Okay. Alright, so next time we'll talk to you, we'll be for a Batman episode.

And then after that, we'll have to do Doctor Strange and the Multiverse Menace. Because there's a fucking wizard minotaur in the trailer. We were like, we're not even going to fucking approach that. We'll wait until Jose comes on. Hey, maybe we can do it live in London. Oh yeah, that would be sweet.

Alright, get some books on be sweet. All right, I guess I'm booking a flight. I guess I'm booking a flight. Come on. Lads on tour in London. Lads on tour. And for anyone who too long didn't listen, basically, Khonshu, Moon Knight, Tinder Swindler. Just watch that on Netflix.

Tinder Swindler, yeah. Someone online Photoshopped Khonshu's head onto that meme I keep seeing Of him on like the plane Someone do it Someone do that And put Seth Green next to him His brother Seth Green From like Austin Powers

Where you're like that kid Thank you for listening Hashtag Moon Knight Swindler Hashtag Moon Knight Swindler If you made it to the end of the episode. Follow Jose Youngs on Twitter, at Jose Youngs, right? You're just at Jose Youngs, your name? Yeah, everywhere. And donate to Comics for Kids.

That's Jose's plug. He always likes to get that in there. They've got comics for troops on their website and everything. Check that out. It's a great cause, great charity, and obviously one that's near and dear to the basement heart with the comics. I donated around Christmas time. They reached out to me. We're like super awesome.

So it's like they are hands-on with all their shit, man. And it's very grassroots. There's like five people that work there. And they're not making money. They do this because they love comic books. So, yeah, donate your comic books, man. I did it too over the holidays. I had to clean some room off my shelf i found a moon night comic book when i was going through my old i found them in my mind oh hell yeah and i'm like shit now after

hearing this i'm like amazed that i even was able to find a moon night comic book because it's been canceled so many times like my brief moment in the comic like collecting phase i found a moon night and i bought it of all things. And I had a cool cover too. And you texted to me. I was like, Oh shit, that looks cool. Yeah.

Moon nights, the aesthetics of moon night, draw a lot of people, but yeah, go read moon night. Go read Jeff Lemire's moon night guys. It's fun. Go to your local comic book shop,

go buy some moon night, support your local comic shop, support comics for kids. And we'll catch you. This crew will catch you for a Batman episode very soon.