My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 195 - NERD NEWS WITH CLEM/TOPHER GRACE

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

Robbie and Clem go over the Nerd News of the week in a "Free Swim" format (shoutout to Barstool Chicago) and then Robbie interviews Topher Grace and finally gets to ask about the legendary/storied "Topher Cut" of the prequels. 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Use code BASEMENT at checkout to receive 15% off The Only Shirt Worth Wearing HelloFresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/16robbie and use promo code 16robbie for 16 FREE MEALS! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, yeah, yeah Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3G It is Robbie Fox, with me is my co-host Clem as always And today we have what I want to call a free swim if we're using barstool Chicago terms shout out to the dog walk shout out Eddie this is we don't have an episode to talk about

or an episode to recap so we're going to kind of go over some news we're going to throw it over to an interview afterwards if you're listening to this on the podcast feed you'll go right into an interview with Topher Grace of that 70s show fame of Spider-Man 3 fame and if you're watching this on YouTube you could go check it out on our channel it's already uploaded so go check it out there like the video already we're getting you early we're telling you right away give us a little thumbs up give us a subscribe keep the basement lights on we're trying to keep the lights on Clem how you doing good I can see my hand so I guess the lights aren't on they haven't cut us off yet.

I'm going to try. Oh, we're going to do a little free swim here. You know, me, Carl, White Sox. Large does the Eddie Barstool impersonation, and now it's just lodged in my head. Like, top one favorite person to imitate at Barstool. And Large does a pretty good job. But yeah,

it's just nerdy news. We'll touch a whole bunch of shit. And like you said, the basement lights, like we just have to make it to what may. And then they don't have any choice because they need to cover all the shit that's coming down the pipe from May on. That's when moon night and Obi-Wan and stranger things.

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All right. We did do a video on the Obi-Wan teaser trailer. So I'm going to tease that. We won't go into it in depth here. I mean, we both thought it looked awesome. We were both like thrilled to see you and McGregor back. I think thrilled to hear the Darth Vader breath. They released a picture of Vader today, which everyone is going crazy for it.

It's like amazing how iconic he is that they could release a silhouette of darth vader that could have been from rogue one like who knows and people were just like oh my god he's fucking back vader's back yeah um so go check that video out on our youtube for our in-depth thoughts on that some marvel news we only got a little bit of marvel news we saw a little bit of i am Groot teaser trailer picture stuff. It's not really teaser trailer, just pictures. I am Groot is going to be an animated show about baby Groot. I think that's a great idea in the world of baby Yoda.

Miss Marvel set to premiere in June. She Hulk to come right after that. So I think as soon as Moon Knight's done, we're going right into Obi-Wan and Stranger Things. And as soon as those are done, we're going into Miss Marvel. As soon as that's done, we're going into she-hole we got no breaks after this and all gas no breaks to quote another barstool the barstool chicago episode i actually just had um detroit pizza for the first time detroit pizza became like a thing i heard a lot about in like 2021 and listen by detroit pizza i didn't go to motown or anything like that i

wasn't hanging out with Jared Goff or Dan Campbell or anything, but I was at Costco and they had the Motor City pizza and I was like, do I get this? Do I not? I kind of want to try it. Some dude comes up to me

and just goes, hey man, buy that. I'm on my day off and I came here just to buy it. Took one out of the freezer and left and I was like, all right, sold. So one bite score, like a solid for like a frozen pizza for a frozen pizza it was like an 8.1 for like a regular pizza it was probably like a 6.4 or

something but like you know i my expectations are very low when it comes to frozen pizza um i don't know how i got into that fucking tangent right there but it's fresh fresh in my head um the group the the group show coming out i think we've really we've realized this over the last year and from people who have like written into us having content for kids just so then you can kind of watch something with them and you don't hate your life as you're watching it the amazing spidey and his amazing friends do it obviously your little baby yoda cameos and mando do it but that show could be a little tougher kids. That's a brilliant idea. And then you rope those little idiots in they're buying the merch. They want to go to Disney. They want to do everything. So that's just such a smart show. I'm probably more stoked for that than,

than a lot of the shows that are coming out. Just cause I know, did you see that parents were complaining about daredevil? I pulled that up. I pulled up the quote cause this is ridiculous. So apparently the, what is this? The parents up the quote because this is ridiculous. So apparently the what is this? The Parents Television Council. Basically, this is like a version of the PTA. This is the PTC now said that the addition of Daredevil, the Punisher and other mature Marvel content will forever tarnish its family friendly brand. And they said, what comes next? Adding a live striptease performance in fantasy land at Disney world.

What are we talking about? That's cartoonishly over the top. Do you want to know what the C stands for in PTC, Bob? Let me tell you. You know what? We've already said that enough. We hit our quota on that during Hawkeye.

The Hawkeye breakdowns. Yeah. You want to go back? The lights went off. The lights off in the basement. I got to turn the lights back on. lights went off in the basement I gotta turn the lights back on If you're watching the YouTube, I hope you're watching the YouTube Because that was like almost when Frank the Tank

Had a lights malfunction One of the all time greatest The lights are back on baby You can't shut us down You can try but you're not gonna do it But yeah Like Watch some old Star Wars You're losing hands but you're not going to do it. But yeah, like watch some old Star Wars. You're losing hands.

You're losing heads. Thanos got his head chopped off in the biggest movie ever. It's like, give me a fucking break, people. I haven't watched Daredevil. I'm sure it's more raw than all the other stuff. Punisher, there's a scene I've seen just on Twitter where he fucking, it's almost like the mountain with our guy Pedro Pascal, the mandalorian himself he fucking like squeezes that guy's head till his eyes pop out jesus christ so it's pretty violent but like just put it under a mature section who cares yeah exactly and like and kind of speaking of which with the star wars stuff i hope star wars goes a little more in that direction

as well and i saw hayden christensen says we're getting a powerful vader and i didn't know how that was going to be you know i don't know how much time has passed since episode three with the with the obi-wan show 10 years okay so 10 years so because i mean you know he has to get his sea legs about him you kind of see him stumbling when he first gets you know roboted up at the end of the uh at the end of the sith so okay so we're going to be getting a badass darth vader let's make that one which are just give us like one episode it's like by the way episode five put the kids away for the vader episode it's the vader episode yeah yeah speaking of speaking of that scene of revenge of the sith we talked to tophor grace a lot about his fan edit of the prequels if you're not aware he made this legendary like storied 85 minute fan edit of episodes one two and three put together and he

tells us in the interview that it ends with that scene with vader's helmet clicking on goes to black you hear his breathing and i was like oh shit so you cut out the no and he was like i did cut that out i was like oh shit that fan edit sounds fucking good i cut it out and i burnt it to a crisp so no one could ever hear it again burnt it like anakin hey too soon bob you're gonna have to listen later for the interview or if you're on youtube you could go check it out on the channel to what the movie begins with because when he told me how his fan edit opens i was like dude you gotta fucking show me this thing it's like he can't because disney owns it and he's like disney will this thing. It's like, he can't because Disney owns it.

And he's like, Disney will shut me down. He's like, he was promoting a Disney sitcom. So he's like, they're my parent company. I can't do it anymore, but it's a very fascinating interview.

So go check that out. I was hoping that he, like, we may have to pitch him to do obviously the sequel trilogy, as well as the book of Boba Fett, where they, I said, I think we said at some point during the book of Boba Fett like make all the

Flashback to scenes in the beginning and kind of Like rework it to make sense as a show You can even just take out all the Mando things And make that its own season like Mando Season 2.5 and just Give us what the book of Boba Fett looked like so I Had like a real feeling of what That show was because I still don't even know how to

Rate it because every time I think it's something for me You're making me want to do that all right you read it all this crazy bastard just get the lights on at disney i'm not scared of disney but that's famous last words don't include me you're you're not scared of disney i'm scared of disney well this is that mouse don't scare you come on that mouse will smack you with that white glove this is that we've i've been working for barstool so long now i kind of get that bravado because i know dave is kind of the the leader in charge here and i'm like dave doesn't give a fuck the only do you like the guy has gone against goodell he's got against all these different media companies espn do you know the one entity that dave has like bentonito and he did it basically

immediately do you remember this? Was it Disney Anonymous? Oh, was it not? Yeah, he said I don't want any part of it. He's like, I don't want any part of these guys. When they were going at Putin, I was like, yo, that's fucked up. He's a poor boy. I think it's

Putin. I've been going to tune in my head like a fig Putin. So I will say like the maybe we should i shouldn't be fucking with disney or i take it back i take it back because fortnite's not going to want to get kicked out of disney he's going to want to go back yeah we want to go to disney yeah he's not going to want to get banned from disney so yeah let's not make enemies with disney at least not before we go to galaxy setch we got to go there we got some dc news actually a lot of dc news to go over today which is shocking but they held a some kind of call and they announced a bunch of delays so aquaman 2 black adam and the flash are all delayed the flash is moving from november of

this year to june of next year a big delay aquaman 2 is moving from december of this year to march kind of a smaller delay and james wan has come out the director and he said this is entirely due to cgi he's like listen we just want more time to work out the cgi in this movie it's very hard to do water all right understandable it's like if you're gonna give us a movie don't give us shitty cgi take a little more time on that shazam 2 pushed forward to december which is like oh okay we got one push forward that's strange and black adam from july of this year to october of this year so that one's not as bad either and now i believe league of super pets that

we talked about last week on a rave's batman movie I believe that one is going to be in July now. So kind of all swapped around. It's tough to hear right after they put out that big entire, like, 2022 is DC's year. We got the Batman. We got Peacemaker. We were like eight and eight. And then they're like, we'll see you next season, fans. I'm going to spin zone this for them and say they realize

that they're looking good they got a hot start obviously peacemaker and batman everyone is is loving it and the reviews and the critics whatever you want to call it box office through the roof by the way i've been looking trying to get imax tickets because i want to see an imax it's sold out every single show and i'm finally going on sunday but i had to buy tickets like days in advance still it's crazy jesus so this is clearly just dc saying all right let's not fuck this up let's not have a stinker here we don't want to get blown out like like if the bangles could have been like when they when they were again i can i consider the 2022 dc franchise to the 2021 bangles they lost to the jets they

lost to mike white the like the the the myth of Mike White was basically born that day, right? And you don't want to have that kind of stuff happen. So I'm just going to tell myself, this is them. In the end, it doesn't really make a difference. Just like we said, we have plenty of stuff coming out in the basement this year. We're going to be going over. It actually helps us a little bit. So I'm going to spin zone, which is crazy.

If you told me I was doing this three months ago, Clem, in March, you're going to be saying, oh, everything's all right with DC. They're pushing stuff back for the right reasons i'd say you're crazy but i'm going to spin zona for mom i'm going to carry the water for them on this one just don't keep doing this shit dc and when it comes out make sure it's fucking good that's cgi and aquaman i want to see aquaman enter his fish with his dick because we all know he's we're adding some fucking fish to this we all know we're adding some fucking fish yeah i don't know if you're gonna get that out of james he's not quite james gunn they're two very different jameses i also saw a report that with test audiences a shorter cut of the batman tested worse than the cut that they actually put out which i thought was

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see if you were dc you could be like hey we're gonna push this ad back don't worry about it we're gonna put it later in the pod you you you battled through it though bob we're okay we're we're still on pace for a episode right now i'm gonna say and you know what i know tofer is gonna crush me as the second part of this so i can still fuck up a little and we can still finish a and a so i'm feeling pretty good he was pretty good um so i've got some positive dc news now okay good we're gonna flip it around the penguin miniseries has officially been ordered by hbo max this was rumored basically confirmed like matt reeves said it's coming we're working on it but this is like officially it's coming colin farrell has a quote here where he says the world that matt reeves created for the batman is one that warrants a deeper gaze through the eyes of oswald cobblepot i couldn't be more excited about continuing this

exploration of oz as he rises through the darkened ranks to become the penguin it will be good to get him back on the streets of gotham for a little madness and a little mayhem if you watched his hot ones which i would recommend he was very good on hot ones he also talked about how the prosthetics he was a little worried about at first but he said as soon as he put them on and like moved his eyebrows and saw that the eyebrows moved with him and like he could emote he was like oh this is gonna be fucking awesome and he was like this is as much fun as i've had playing a character in forever you could see it on screen when he's laughing in the car chase scene and all that so i'm stoked about this like just seeing more of that gotham criminal underworld is going to be really cool

yeah and now that i'm thinking about the way everything oh how do i say all right i'm not going to do any batman spoilers so i'm trying to figure out the best way to say but yeah okay just seeing the way his his rise in the ranks and just the entire Gotham underworld. This is how we build a fucking universe. DC, you're doing it the right way right now. Again, the TV has changed the entire landscape of how this all can be done. And you,

you said it, Bob, you could kind of, like you said, you do like the little mini series or whatever, or you can just kind of build a specific character without having to throw it in a movie theater and hope it doesn't flop or whatever. The fact he's as stoked. I feel like to have an actor that good that excited to play a character like this that's awesome i do think that is kind of the marvel effect where all these

big names have kind of done it and everyone's like all right i want to get a piece of that superhero pie too so i'm i'm very excited that he seems as excited about this as all the fans are about it. Yeah. And he got executive producer credit on it too. So he'll be making big bank on this as well. So that's, you know, in an Oswald Cobblepot way, also another incentive. And also Lauren LaFranc is the showrunner.

I wanted to shout her out because she's a writer on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Chuck, which Chuck is Tommy Smokes' favorite show of all time. Wow. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Chuck, which Chuck is Tommy Smokes' favorite show of all time. Wow. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I know is so many of our listeners' favorite show. I know Frank, I think, tweets us all the time saying Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is his favorite show of all time and wants us to watch it. We should get into it at some point. I think we would probably like it as MCU nuts. But Lauren LeFranc, the showrunner, alongside Matt Reeves alongside colin farrell as executive producers

i think this is going to be great and then we've got another gotham show change up kind of so the gotham pd show we talked about with jeffrey wright is jim gordon again that's kind of canceled that's kind of been shelved and they're going in a different direction with it where it's going to be a horror show about arkham and arkham asylum the matt reeves quote from him he says the gcpd thing that story has kind of evolved we're actually now moving into the realm of exactly what would happen in arkham as it relates to coming off of our movie and some of the characters almost leading into the idea of it's like a horror movie or a haunted house that is arkham the idea that again the way that gotam is a character in this movie, I really want Arkham to exist as a character in this show.

I know that Matt Reeves is a massive fan of the show Mindhunter, which I haven't gotten into. But I believe that they kind of dissect different killers in every episode in that show. It'd be really cool to see that with batman's rogues gallery like almost like you could do singular episodes on criminal backstories or escapades that criminals had with each other and do guest stars you could do a barry keegan episode whatever or kyon i think that's how you say his last name which is a little fucking curveball but i you could do an episode on him you could do another episode on paul dano if you wanted you could do an episode on him. You could do another episode on Paul Dano if you wanted. You could do an episode on the Clayface. You could bring in weird characters.

You could do Kite Man if you wanted to. You could bring in the weirdest characters and do cool episodes on them. So I actually think leaning into the horror movie idea, it's like, damn, the Gotham PD show sounded cool. But this sounds also cool. Yeah. For some reason, I thought thought they were gonna just kind of like delve into that or that was a separate show i didn't realize they killed the gotham pd i saw the news going around um but yeah the way you could tell that arkham when they linked it with

you know everything else in the movie you're like oh shit arkham is gonna be a part of this which i which i appreciate it's something i think that that it's so big and like i appreciate also matt reef said it because we were saying we've been saying in all our different batman I appreciate it's something I think that that it's so big and like I appreciate also Matt Reeves said it because we were saying we've been saying in all our different Batman recaps even like how Gotham is Gotham is like it's one of the it's such a character in all these Batman things and Arkham is a huge fucking part of that I'm hoping I'm I'm almost thinking like a Orange is the New Black did you ever watch Orange is the New Black i loved orange is the new black for the first few seasons yeah i watched i watched with my wife the first season that's where abadayo came from and peacemaker exactly and um i got out of it at the end but

you know she kept watching but i always like you had the story but they also had the backstory if they kind of do like something like that where they go back and forth and with all the different you know characters you can throw in there that could be a lot of fun so uh is jeffrey right gonna play a part in it, or is he out now? Because that's what had me the most excited. I know, I agree. And I was trying to find that,

and I couldn't find an answer. But I really want him to be involved. I hope he's maybe the person, if they're doing a Mindhunter type thing, which there's no confirmation of. That's just kind of people connecting the dots. If they do something like that, I would hope he's the one trying to find out more as he rises to the ranks of commissioner.

And maybe you do the Gotham PD stuff as like a subplot in this show. Maybe you could incorporate the ideas that they had, but maybe they were like, eh, it's maybe not a full show. And I know the Gotham PD show is going to be a prequel, whereas this is going to build off of the Batman. So maybe they also said, hey, let's just keep moving forward. Let's not go backwards. Let's start off with the Batman and which I don't have an issue with either. Yeah, no, I'm with you.

And that's the only thing is that the one thing I noticed after I left the theater and thought about it, I was like, I don't see, I haven't seen a ton of Jeffrey Wright's movies. Every time I see one, I'm like, I love this fucking guy. And he's like, he's like a super version of that guy. Like that guy is usually like a supporting guy who's in for two minutes or three minutes. He's

like, he obviously is a much bigger role than that. And I just always like him. And to have that kind of feeling around someone that's on screen that much, that lets you know that dude's just fucking good at what he does. So I hope he's in one of these. I hope the next time I don't see him is in like the Batman 2. I agree. Have you seen the hunger games movies?

Yes. I think I've seen a moment. That was another one. My wife was obsessed with the books when they came. He was really good. Yeah. He was awesome. Second.

I think he's in the second, third and fourth. Yeah. He's really good. All right. We've got another ad to do. It's hello. Fresh.

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absolutely. All right. Now we're going to throw it over to the toe for grace interview. If you're listening to this on the podcast feed, it's just going to throw right over to the toe for grace one. And if you're watching us on YouTube, go to the channel, click on the channel,

click on the toe for grace interview. That is the second part of this podcast where we're going to talk about that prequel cut he made. We're going to talk about all of that stuff. So thank you for grace interview. That is the second part of this podcast where we're going to talk about that prequel cut he made. We're going to talk about all of that stuff. So thank you for tuning in. We will be back next week. Maybe, I don't know what we're going to do next week.

It might be another free swim. It might be able, we might think of a topic between now and then, but we'll figure it out. We got a little gap between moon night. Yeah. If you guys, anything you want to see,

put it in the comments. I'll be in London. We'll do a, we'll do a phone. Maybe we'll do a fun, like London nerd episode. I don't know we'll figure out jose there too right yeah i will i'll be with jose yeah yeah okay all right we'll throw it over to tofer grace now hello and welcome back to my mom's basement it is rob is Robbie Fox and I am here with Topher Grace. What's going on, man? How are you?

Thank you for having me, man. Absolutely. Thanks for being here. You got the final episodes of Home Economics this season airing March 16th and 23rd on Wednesdays. And I've seen some interviews with you talking about this show and you saying that you've laughed more on this set than maybe any other. Yeah, it's just a great group like i am just a big fan i was the first one on it so i got to be a little bit part of the casting just in the sense i got to read with people and you go oh i have great chemistry with these people kind of one-on-one but it was during covid so we never actually all read together as a group until we were shooting and i especially having been on a dream team before.

I was kind of like, I hope that... It's like dating, you never know. You could say these two people should really work together. Yeah, it didn't work out. But I went to work very nervous on the first day. And then by day two or something, I was driving home cocky. I was like, these guys are just so good. I don't have to really do that much.

That's the hope of a group that just... In a show like this, the group is the star. Yeah. And like you said, you've worked with literal dream teams in the past. So do you have someone that comes to mind as the funniest person you've ever been on set with? Whoa. No joke. It sounds like I should say it because I'm here promoting it, but it's not. I've also done a lot of dramas

where there is like no funniest person on set or maybe sadly I'm the funniest person but like Jimmy Tatro is like and I think I mean I love everyone on the show they're all very funny you know and Sashir's really good they're all funny in a different way but Jimmy's

like he really wants to make you laugh and make the scene be bad like he wants to make you laugh and make the scene be bad. He wants to ruin the scene by making you laugh. And if he can see that he's starting to make you laugh, and now we've been working together for, you know, over a year on it, he'll just like, he won't let up. Does it become easier or harder for him to make you laugh? Like the more you get to know him? Oh, easier for him.

It's harder for all of us. laugh like the more you get to know him oh easier for him it's harder for all of us it's the worst but uh you know a certain point you gotta like you gotta get the actual take yeah you're like come on dude yeah we gotta do this but he's amazing and shashira is very uh yeah they're all great but she's she's got a bit of a writer in her too so she kind of will write stuff that a couple days later i'm like, ah, that's really funny. It's just a great group. Yeah, I think also we feel very comfortable around each other. So that's part of it. You can't really have a great set experience unless you really feel comfortable, which is not all.

Sometimes you kind of come in, you do your thing and leave on a movie, and it's not about comfort. Do you ever personally wash your own stuff back, or is that something you stay away from? I try to just at night before I go to bed watch one or two episodes of something I've been in. Get me in a good mood. No. No. I think – Is it one of those things where you're like, I can't look at myself on screen or is it like, eh, if I catch an episode in the background?

I hate these actors who say, I've never watched something. First of all, they're lying. There's a lot of them. They're lying. They're all lying. And what's sad is they have to walk out of the premiere and then watch some DVD in their basement at night or something. Like, there's no way you do the pick on Johnny Depp. You know what I mean?

Like, there's no way you do Pirates of the Caribbean, and you're like, I don't want to see any of the effects or any of it. I don't want to see any of it. Why not? Give me a break. But I understand actors who don't want to watch it too much. So I love seeing something cut together. It's the whole, you know, it's what you've been aiming for.

You want to see were you successful in that? Was it good? You know, what did that look like? But I do think there's a masturbatorial thing of like, you know, watching too much that you should stay away from. Yeah. Another thing that's been announced, I assume you probably can't talk about it too much, is That 90s Show.

That's right. I just want to ask, as far as reboots go, do you have a favorite reboot, one that comes to mind, where you're like, oh, they really did that right. They captured the tone of that show and brought it back in the right way? Or a movie, I suppose. Yeah, I guess I would reference movies more. I'm a big Star Wars fan. Same. would reference movies more i'm big star wars fan same but uh i thought i thought uh that first one they did force awakens yeah i thought it did it for me i mean you know it's almost like

getting this place with fandom where you can't say anything purely positive about anything um i'd love to like release like like wipe all the fans minds now of A New Hope and release it and just see them all hate it or something but like but I just thought they did such a great job of having the I guess you call them legacy characters in there

and really serve a real emotional function and then the new people were great and I didn't love her one after that but i thought it was that was really good that first one i thought it did it for me and i was a tough critic i'm sure yeah i have i have some star wars stuff later on in this interview what is your favorite oh my favorite you know i'm a huge force awakens guy as well like i love the sequels as a whole i'm a huge star wars guy i've got the lightsaber on my arm here look at this oh my god

we can we curse on this oh yeah say whatever. Say whatever you want. Barstool. Let's just look at all these. Yeah, so I've got a lightsaber. I've got Batman. Oh, then this must have been a big opening weekend for you. I saw that you're also an Electric Mayhem guy from your Twitter. Not only my Electric Mayhem, I know someone who's involved with a project that you're going to really be excited about. Well, I'm excited because there's, yeah, supposedly new Electric Mayhem stuff on the way.

I think it's going to be really insane you know it's my mom's basement i got a kind of like a notebook full of drawings on my arm that are just i love it dude i love all that stuff um but yeah it's a good question i liked the new ghostbusters i know some people weren't all crazy about it but i thought it was a i liked it too i thought it was good i thought i think the real thing is i felt felt this when I watched Ghostbusters, which I liked and was incredibly well made, is you really don't, this is probably,

tell me if I'm getting too deep, but you don't want to watch another Ghostbusters film. You want it to be 1984. And you want to be, well, you weren't probably even alive in 1984, but I want to be six in 1984. I want to not know that the world is bad. Do you what i mean i want to not know any of the stuff that was introduced to me is i just want to be i don't even want to be six much i just want that feeling of safety and i want to be

bonded with my dad watching it so i think ultimately that's what we all want yeah we're doing these reboots it's's kind of impossible to capture that real feeling. It's really saying, just send me, not even a time machine, send me back into the Matrix. What was that guy who wants to go back? Remember in the Matrix? Oh, I thought you were talking about Lost.

We gotta go back. No, no, no, that guy in the Matrix who goes, I know, like, I wanna, like, I'll sell out this crew. I want you to put me back in the Matrix and erase my mind. Is it the Cypher? Is it him? I don't know.

I haven't watched that movie in a while. Yeah, it's been a while. You know, is it Joey Pants? Joey Pantolioni. He's like, no, no, no, no. The first one, when he goes back, he says, put me back in the Matrix. I'll sell out my whole crew. But you have to erase my mind that I did any of this bad stuff.

I just want to be back in the Matrix. And I'm like, that's what reboots really feel like to me. It's like, you're like, I just want to be a child again. You don't even have the feelings of safety that I had. But that's probably too deep an answer. Sorry. No, that was a great answer. Great answer.

And I know you kept for a while, at least, the couch from that 70s show. Did you keep any other souvenirs? But this is a great example of that. I got engaged. So my wife was finally honest with her feelings about this couch. She said, this is, she wasn't a fan of 70s So my wife was finally honest with her feelings about this couch. She said, this is, she wasn't a fan of 70s shows.

She was like, I don't like this couch. It's just an old couch. It's an old, it was a crappy couch before we shot the show. And then it got much crappier. And I said, no, come on. This is like the couch from the show. And she said the best thing to me. She was like, well, if you're really, if you want to have a kind of like a priceless memento

from that 70s show, you'll be that guy until you die. I was like, oh, yeah, I guess I am. When people see you, they'll think of that show, yeah. Sold the couch for charity and, you know. Did you keep any other souvenirs from any other things that you've been in, any movies or TV shows? No, I actually, I think I am very nostalgic.

So it's not that I don't have that. I don't want to pretend like I'm one of those people who like never looks back. But I don't. I think everyone's trying. That's another way they're trying to get back into it. And you got to move forward, right? Yeah. So I watched an interview with you earlier from Conan O'Brien in, I believe, 2001.

Whoa. And you and Conan were talking about you sneaking into the Oscars when you were in college. That's true. That is one of the craziest stories I've ever heard. This is pre-9-11 security. Yeah, you said you and your buddies just got a limo, wore tuxes, and got into the Oscars? The long version of that is USC is literally right across from where they used to host the Oscars at the Shrine Auditorium. So we were up drinking beers, looking from the parking garage over at the setup. And one of my friends was like, I bet if we just got in a limo, got in

a line, we just like, we could just walk in. And I was like, I guess we could. And I had just gotten that 70s show on a fluke. It was another, I'd never acted before. Someone saw me in high school play. So I knew in a month I had to report for duty to do the pilot of that 70s show. I thought, oh, I can't do this

like next year. Like it's now or never. Or I'm going to be the kid from that canceled Fox sitcom or whatever. So I was like, let's do it. And I really spearheaded it.

We couldn't even afford tuxedos because we were, you know, college freshmen. So we wore black blazers and black pants, and we rented just the bow ties. Three bow ties.

And we got a limo, and the thing that really made it work, because there were no limos available, was Oscar weekend. So this guy was like, all right, man, for $100, I'll drop off whoever is dropping off, Nicole Kidman or whatever, come around the block, get you at your dorm. Just a second spinner and what happened was i realized now he had the the thing that lets you into that lane already in his limo because of it so we had these little roll-up click cameras before they had cameras on your phone

and we went out on the red carpet and it was like tyra banks and drew barry. I peed in a urinal next to Gregory Peck. Nice. Never forget that. Certainly never thought that would happen. Yeah. And that audience looks like it's full of movie stars. We got out of the limo like, whoa! We waved to everybody.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they all cheered for like half a second. They're like, who are these kids? And we kind of like ran in. But the audience is just seat fillers outside of those first eight rows it's just a bunch of seat fillers so i guess we just became seat fillers you know we just sat down they're like oh these two seats are taken all right and uh it was great james cameron won for titanic and wow matt damon and ben affleck won and met

paul thomas anderson it was crazy the craziest experience i can imagine just act like you belong well it was weird because i had already had a weird experience and that i wasn't planning on being in hollywood and then got this audition so it was a good like okay this is what it's going to be like and it was just very heady uh i remember we went to the denny's that's right next door afterwards like Like we had the programs. I think I saw the program somewhere in 1997. That's a souvenir. Nostalgic about that.

Well, that's a real, we earned that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Another thing I thought was very interesting going back to 2005, you hosted Saturday night live and it was one of the first ever appearances

of Jason Sudeikis on that show. And he was like in your monologue actually. Do you remember working with him when he was just a writer? Yeah, and he's, when I bump into him, I'll still talk about that, because I think they probably, when they come in the cast cast, they probably forget how many sketches they were in,

but I think at that time it's valuable to these writers, and he was a, I remember him being a star writer at the time. Like, it wasn't like he was a nobody who got into, it was like he was a star writer who I guess was trying to go in the performer route. And I said, you got it, kid. I said, let's get him in the model. No, I didn't.

He was just a really nice guy. Another thing, I'm obviously a huge comic book fan. I've heard you say in other interviews that you're hesitant to talk about the whole Spider-Man thing just because of the clickbait culture. Well, that's what happens is you start talking about it. Truly, it's been so long. I have nothing to really say about it in a good or bad way. But it's like, you know, you talk about it and it gets so much pickup. Did that culture make doing media for you less fun in that, like, we're going to take one thing you say, run it in the headline?

No? No. it in the headline no no i i think uh no because most people like you are respectful of you know like you just have to be open saying you know it's not gonna you know whatever i just don't want to do that or what i it's not i really have nothing to say about it it's been a long time you've probably done enough interviews about it where yeah all that's out there but yeah and i you know i liked my experience on it but but it's like, what do you, what can you say? But, uh, no, most people are, I've also learned ways to say in a nice way, you know, let's not do.

And by the way, I like talking about everything I've been involved with, because I like people ask me the same thing about 70 show. Like, do you, do you mind like talking about it? I'm like, no, I spent, I worked so hard on that. Like, I love it. I love that people are still talking about it. I think people like that i worked so hard on that like i love it i love that people are still talking about it i think people like that just from like a fan perspective too because sometimes you are a fan of an actor who's in something and you're like oh i love them from that and then they're like there's nothing worse i don't want to talk about when someone comes up like it's

always like their identifier yeah that's who they are and you're like well i don't want to talk about you know i don't know what i want to pick on anyone but um another thing that I know that you're a big fan of in the comic book realm is Batman. I know you're a big Batman Returns fan. So I wanted to ask, have you seen The Batman? Where are you getting the Batman Returns thing from? You mentioned that in a Lights, Camera, Barstool interview. Did I? Yeah.

But I like Batman Returns. Oh, you mean the comic book. Possibly. You said Batman Returns, so I thought the Tim Burton movie. Oh, I thought the first – I oh and I I thought the first I like the first one more oh did you yeah but I and I thought the second one got a little weird kind of some in cool ways and some like I was like a little too Tim Burton in some ways yeah the black goo coming out of DeVito's mouth you know what I want to talk about dude if you want to talk about

Batman yes this is a very controversial hot take okay is and I'm older than you so i'm older than probably anyone here except for my buddy is uh i thought the third one with al kilmer when i saw it when i was 17 was great like i'm not the greatest movie i'd ever seen but i was like this is great like i love jim carrey as the bad guy and i kind of like the the symmetry of the two-faced stuff and you know I mean you compare it to the Chris Nolan stuff it's like no contest but I kind of was into it you know that scene where he I mean we were 17 we were like prime audience for it we go in there and he goes should we take up you know the boat or should we go by air and I was like oh my god you know I was so great and and because that fourth one is so bad.

So bad it's good in a lot of ways. Maybe with time. I only saw it when it came out. I was like, oh, this isn't the thing. But I thought, I think it gets kind of, you're nodding. Do you agree? Yeah. But how do you feel?

If you're younger, maybe you don't know. Because if you've watched the Chris Nolan thing and then you watch that, you're probably like, this is too campy or whatever. I love the campiness. The new ones are like action, action. Yeah. But that one wasn't too campy. It was Jim Carrey.

The new ones you could almost – and the Batman included. And I love – The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies ever, if not my favorite movie. The Batman. I haven't seen this movie. I have kids. I thought it was awesome. I loved it. But they're both movies where you could probably take Batman out of them and rewrite it to be a cop character.

And it works in a lot of ways. Yeah. Then the new one, even The Dark Knight, you could probably take Batman out of them and rewrite it to be a cop character. And it works in a lot of ways. Yeah, then the new one, even The Dark Knight, you could probably take out. Batman Forever is like a comic book Batman in your face. Gotham looks like it's somewhere in a snow globe. It doesn't even exist in the universe. I like all of that as well. Don't you agree that it got taken down a notch by the fourth one? Yeah.

Yeah. Because people just say the Schumacher movies. Right, right. And I'm like, I think he did a good job. I also love Kilmer as Bruce Wayne. I think Val Kilmer's a great Bruce. Yeah, the whole, I actually, I got to watch it again. Maybe now if I watched it, I'd go, I don't know.

But at the time, I thought, this is serving me everything I want, you know? I think you'll probably like the new one. Oh, I can't wait to see it. The new one's like really, really impressive you'll mention Christopher Nolan you got to work with Christopher Nolan yeah interstellar what does it work what is it like actually working with a director like that a story director like that as an actor oh uh he's so prepared thing that blew me away especially because he's shooting a lot of the scenes i was in in um imax is we do

like maybe two takes we definitely do one maybe two and i was like are you sure you don't want to but first of all he's watching it on a little screen around his neck there's no one crowding around the monitor he's a full auteur completely in control of what's going on but i'm like do you want to like just check it back and make sure do he has so much confidence and i think it comes from he does a lot of prep so i mean every director does a lot of prep i think he does like an insane amount of prep so like he's just this is my guess but he's just so confident with what he's doing it's just about getting there shooting it i would have thought he'd do i thought he'd be like kubrick. That's what I would think, yeah. They have a lot of, like, he didn't do a ton of takes, but we, he had so much confidence,

and I remember after a while being in those scenes being like, I was starting to feel more confident. Like, it affects the actors. Yeah. Because you kind of are like, yeah, you know, this is going great, and why would we shoot it, you know, if you shoot it like 22 times, maybe that's because I suck or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you're not getting what you want to get, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. He's just a really warm, wonderful guy and really funny, which I think a lot of people don't know about him. And then just very confident what he's doing and it's all prepared and you just get to go there and have fun. It's great. I mean, it's the dream. His sets are the dream. Yeah. You don't really like fully get into your character's backstory in that movie, but does he give you something on set where he's like, this is your character, this is where it's from, or is that all up to you based on the script? No, he's, I think he's into a lot of prep, but I also think he's a minimalist, and that's why he's able to tackle these subject matters that are so vast. It takes someone who has that level of confidence

and felt very confident when he cast me. And it was, I'm sure all the other actors did. And he's just, I mean, you know, it was actually very similar to working with Spike Lee. And, you know, and Chris Nolan was at the Cannes premiere of Black Landsman, which was great to be able to see him. And, you know, and then he cast uh john david washington in intent yeah but uh but they reminded me of each other they both spike has a lot of confidence you're doing like maybe one or two takes it's so funny because you if

you're like me i just watched like all the spikes greatest films the night before i came to work with him and then you're like oh we don't we're not doing this a bunch of times like and then you're like, oh, we're not doing this a bunch of times? And then you go, no, in order to be that good, you actually have to be a genius, not do it a bunch of times. Yeah, there's like an organicness to it maybe that's added even. Well, also, you go home the first, maybe the first night, the first day of Interstellar or Black Klansman, I was a little bit like, whoa, we're not doing that many takes. And you show up the next day ready.

Like you are ready to deliver. And then everyone gets like that. And, you know, these are some great performers I got to work with. It's a great performance by you. That's one of my favorite performances by you. It's awesome. I mean, a devious guy, horrible guy, but great performance. Yeah, it's tough when I talk about it because sometimes I'm talking about it as an actor

and you're like, there's nothing better than a juicy, amazing role like that. And they're like, but he's a terrible man. I'm like, oh, no, no, worst guy ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what makes it so interesting. Fun to play, I'm sure. The Star Wars thing that we kind of referenced earlier. Let's do it, bro.

You are, I would say, up there in terms of like when people think celebrity Star Wars fans, they think Toll for Grace. I'm not that big a Star Wars fan. I like Star Wars a lot. See, isn't that funny, though? I don't know the names of any of the planets or any of the stuff. People kind of associate with you, I assume because of the fan edit. Well, first,

my character on 70's Show was a huge fan of Star Wars. And I think, kind of in the way I am, where I think it's probably our greatest franchise, or, you know, one of them. No, it's probably,

come on, let's be real. It is. You know, Harry Potter is great, but in terms of like... Throw Lord of the Rings out the window. Changing the culture. There's only one return, it's of the Jedi, in the in that part you know harry potter is great or you know but like in terms of like lord of the rings out the window there's only one return it's of the jedi not of the king you know yeah sure i mean i don't hate it you know it's a good movie too much walking in those but i but I liked it, so I would reference it as my favorite thing,

but I'm just not really that into it beyond, like I've never read any of the books or watched the cartoon. You don't have the lightsaber tattoo. No, I got a replica lightsaber in my office, and I like it. It's cool, but what happened was I did a movie that I produced.

The first movie I produced about 10 years ago. And I gave such bad notes in editing. I didn't know what post was. I thought I knew. I've been into post before. But I gave terrible, terrible notes. And I felt so awful about it my uh penance was I got a um avid editing machine off of ebay and cut atonement you remember that movie atonement probably not it's a joe wright film from

2007 or something it just it has all these flashbacks and I reordered them and I learned to cut while I was on it so I would show this version of Atonement to my friends, but it was like 26 minutes long. They were like, good movie, but they were like, whoa, that is short. And I was like, all right, I need way more material. So I was looking at trilogies and the trilogy with Natalie Portman in it, I was like, this feels like there's one movie in there that's really tight and sadly it's three films long.

So I took all that footage. I put all the deleted scenes. They have all the effects done. So I put all the deleted scenes in. So I had, like, maybe just shy of 10 hours of footage in a row. And just molded it over a year. And it was not, again, it wasn't a Star Wars thing. I mean, I do love Star Wars.

But it was more like, to be honest, i didn't like the prequels that much but i it was just coming from places like how do you tell the story and how do you learn how to edit when when a scene is over and so i got it down to like 80 minutes which is really something from nine and a half hours uh yeah especially with those movies yeah and then i did a screening at the Soho House in Los Angeles and my friend invited two bloggers. One blogger won't set the internet on fire, but you get two bloggers in there. Yep.

It's going to be talked about for 10 years. It has told me to talk about it now. And I was just so tickled about it because I really loved editing. But I'm sad that the thing that comes out of it is that I'm a Star Wars fan, which I am. But what I really loved is the learning about editing and I have no yen I should say this to any directors listening I have no yen to edit my own stuff it's more just like you know if you if you are working at a restaurant in the kitchen you go

work the counter and you know what I mean like you just learn something about everything and it was very uh instructional for me as an actor really to do and just now what I mean? Like you just learn something about everything and it was very instructional for me as an actor really to do. And just now I understand when I'm giving editing note how to not look like an idiot. Well, it's funny that you say that you're not like this diehard Star Wars fan

because so many of the diehard Star Wars fans are like, all we want to see is the Topher Grace cut. Well, I appreciate that a lot. And I- By self-included, it starts, is this confirmed it starts with the Duel of Fates

and most of episode one is cut out I'm going to tell you what I did yes starts with the and I had someone animate the pan down and the

it has a new crawl it actually the crawl starts with did you rewrite the crawl yeah it starts with it was all a dream like none of that happened that's like

kind of a funny thing and then it talks about I forget exactly but it starts with for some reason it makes it okay that it starts with this amazing lightsaber none of that happened that's like a kind of a funny thing and then it talks about i forget exactly but it starts with for some reason makes it okay that it starts with this amazing lightsaber battle and then it cuts to yoda telling him you have to take care of this kid and then he's with the kid in the elevator just kind of jumps into the next movie into clones yeah and then and by the way i cut a lot on the action too there's a lot of

it was very like the way that movie is shot it's not like, I actually heard I guess Marshall Lucas George Lucas' wife was an editor on the first one and I think her and a team really kind of saved that movie that's what people say

kind of like exterior mid shot, like close shot, you know, and what she wound up doing was going from like the exterior just to a close, you know, like weird stuff that you wouldn't know. Also,

I think in that first movie, they weren't about to blow up the planet. The princess Leia was on. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. There's that there's there was like, I think about the tension that that scene wouldn't have if you didn't think

she was going to die. They didn't blow up the Death Star. So in this one, I cut the action down. It's just really tight. And then the end – I reordered the ending so that it ends with him getting the helmet on. And this crowd, man, it was so – because you don't need anything beyond getting the helmet on. You cut the no. You cut that? Oh, yeah, because it ends with this thing like

and then you hear the breathing and then this whole crowd just started going that's the end it goes to the credits and people started cheering it was such a great moment just because

like once Disney bought it I was like oh I'll never show it to Dory yeah no they are my parent company too by the way

but I I just it was such a fun experience to i think at that point jj hadn't even signed on to do it yet so it was like maybe they thought that was there was never going to be any more star wars and it was great to have a room full of 200 people go nuts it was really really fun yeah well they can't see that but they can see your star wars trailer so if you're like itching for a little toe for grace star wars editing you could check out the buddy of mine yes we cut a five minute thing that is called star wars always that you're welcome to go it's pretty awesome on youtube but uh that's me uh with my wife and his wife were away for a weekend and that's what's going

on guys that's what the boys are getting into. Once you have kids, you're like, let's go crazy. Bachelor weekend. He's an editor, too. So it was like, I mean, he's a real editor. And we had a lot of fun. But yeah, I've really enjoyed producing the show I'm on. I enjoy editing. And sometimes now I'll ask the set designer about sets. I think if you want to be doing essentially the same thing your whole life,

you have to be doing actually different things. Yeah, a little different aspects of it. Yeah. I like that. All right. Thank you for joining the show. Final episodes of Home Economics this season, as I said, March 16th and March 23rd. Actually, not to correct you.

It goes on much longer than that. But those are episodes that are coming on. It's fine. Oh, the Wikipedia is long on the final season. Unless there's something I don't know in ABC. No, those are the next two. Yeah. Okay. Those are the next two. Look out for the next two look out for the next two and then wednesdays it's on wednesdays i'm just editing the last five down into one five minute yeah the tofer cut all right

thank you so much thanks man pleasure that was really fun man