My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 210 - 'OBI-WAN KENOBI' EPISODE 2 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: May 28, 2022

The Basement Boys break down the SECOND episode of the 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series on Disney+ and discuss their thoughts on the two-part premiere as a whole! 3Chi: Use code STOOL5 at checkout to receive ...5% off at 3Chi.com **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello there, and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3C. It is Robbie, Fox, and Clem, and we are back, same day as we recorded our Episode 1 recap. We are here for our Episode 2 recap. In between the recording, a few hours, and Clem just went and watched episode two. So Clem, I want to get your thoughts right away. I said in the episode one recap that I liked these two episodes as a package.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Episode two made episode one better for me. Episode two might have even been an improvement on the story for me. What were your thoughts? Yeah. So now episode two now makes sense why I'm seeing all the, I'm so excited for Obi-Wan. This was a great start to the series. All those tweets that I had seen where I was kind of eyes half open trying not to get spoiled for stuff, it all makes a lot more sense now after Episode 2
Starting point is 00:00:56 because I think after Episode 1, especially after that goddamn chase scene in Episode 1, if everyone had finished that, I wonder if like Luke's's are i guess at this point it's just disney what if they were just like all right we have to have two episodes at once because if we're going to end on that chasey we are going to get slaughtered online so um and the way they end this episode is like holy fuck we're in it's it's the meme of me with the comb everywhere exactly uh when and the way people are reacting i, all right, this feels like there's a baby Yoda moment at the end of this.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Not quite, you know, the shock. And, you know, we'll get into it. There most certainly was. And, yeah, for the people on YouTube, this is the same day, just a few hours later. Even though I'm pretty sure Robbie is going to wear that shirt until the season finale. He's going to have this thing on for the next four weeks basically i wore my god zinger shirt the entire time i was in latvia which was only three days robbie's gonna be wearing this for the next four weeks that's the fact hey i might get a different
Starting point is 00:01:54 obi-wan shirt i might mix it up like that but it's gonna be obi-wan merch from here on out and we got stranger things today that came back we got miss marvel june 8th which we heard some good things about from ken jack he watched the first episodes. He had very nice things to say about the show. So we are probably going to wind up doing quick hitters for Miss Marvel. I think we're going to do the long breakdown podcast for Obi-Wan and maybe 10, 20 minute quick hitters on our Miss Marvel Thoughts Weekly. Yeah. I mean, if these reviews are as good as Ken Jack and just the internet in general so far says they're kind of forcing our hand to do something quick hitters at the very least, if not more so.
Starting point is 00:02:29 So again, compared to the Mitchells versus the machines, which like is a movie we both love. Yeah. Ken, when Ken Jack said that, I'm like, brother, you don't know who that you're barking up the Mitchells and the machines stand tree right here. Me and you, you're the one who put me onto it. I put my kids onto it through the whole pod fam onto it and i mean large liked it his kids like it and then you know guys like me you in the middle there in terms of age so it kind of hits everything if miss marvel can do that
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Starting point is 00:04:03 and you'll take 5% off your complete order. I will say, Obi-Wan, may not be for the younger kids. Sienna may have to wait a few years before she gets into this one. Yikes. The final shot was like out of a horror movie or something. I mean, let's get into it. I also want to recommend before we get into it, because you reminded me with Mitchell's Versus the Machines, another movie for any parents that want to watch a fun movie with
Starting point is 00:04:24 their kids that you're going to appreciate as well. The new Chip and Dale movie on Disney Plus is so unbelievably good. I watched it while I was getting the Beatles tattoo. Shout out to our guy Trigg. The man. Ringo on the inside. George back there. He designed those.
Starting point is 00:04:39 While I was getting that tattooed, my guy Jay Hernandez has all the streaming services in his tattoo shop. So he's like, put on whatever you want. I was like, oh, let's throw in the new Chip and Dale movie. It was so funny. I saw that at the top of the Disney Plus carousel, Chip and Dale, Rescue Rangers or whatever. And at first I was like, wow, they like at first I just thought it was the old cartoon because I grew up watching the cartoon. And I'm like, oh, no, this looks a little newer.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And I thought it was a series for kids because my kids have fucked my algorithm up on Disney Plus. They're watching all the little kid stuff. So I'm getting there's heavy Marvel and Star Wars for me and then a bunch of cartoons. That Chip and Dale, I've heard from, again, all different people and to the point where it's like, oh, no, you're going to love it. Your kids might like it, but it is almost like more for adults than it is for kids. And we're saying like
Starting point is 00:05:25 maybe like my kids they don't really get a lot of the innuendo like it's pretty safe for them in that regard right it's not like scary or totally no no no totally safe it's just that they they almost do a who framed roger rabbit in bringing in cameos and there's a hundred cameos that you're like your kids aren't even going to know who that is and you're going to be like holy shit how did they get the rights to bring that guy in? My guy, Kyle Gelling, he produces,
Starting point is 00:05:47 we got to believe as well. He, that was his exact thing was I heard Roger Rabbit from a bunch of people say no more. This is someone, a diehard Roger Rabbit fan who loves the shoe death in Roger Rabbit. Spoiler is the most heart wrenching death in the history of cinema. I will go to my grave saying that. That movie used to scare the shit out of me.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Oh, yeah. When I was a kid with the eyes. Oh, my God. No, but baby! Don't do it. What? Kill John, brother! I love drugs!
Starting point is 00:06:15 Like this! My wife's in the room, by the way, and she's like, oh, the idiocy is back here. We're talking Roger Rabbit. So let's get into Obi-Wan. We've talked about the random stuff of the world enough. Let's get into episode two, real in-depth. It opens with a cool-looking planet that Obi-Wan comes down into, green atmosphere, green clouds,
Starting point is 00:06:39 and he's looking for the ship that Princess Leia is being held on at this point, not realizing that this is a trap. He meets a homeless clone trooper played by Tamora Morrison. And this was really cool. This is this kind of stuff that we've been asking for, like in the Mandalorian recaps. I feel like we even said like, aren't there a ton of clone troopers just hanging around?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Like maybe millions of clone troopers. Why don't we ever see one of those guys? And you get in the Mandalorian like, oh, I recognize that voice or Boba saying they might recognize my voice here we see like a homeless veteran basically big beard almost castaway style beard and he's begging for money it's a shame you're like oh fuck that's what happened to the clones the reality of like mixing star wars with reality and that's kind of what you're getting there like not a good reality but like reality reality reality is not fucking good reality stinks and that's kind of the part of it and. Like not a good reality, but like reality, reality, reality is not fucking good.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Reality sticks. And that's kind of the part of it. And it's like, don't give him your credits. He's just going to use it on spice. Right? Like that's what you saw in there, but we have,
Starting point is 00:07:33 we've been very much about that. And dare I say so far, the best tomorrow Morrison of this year is his candy. No, I don't want to say that. Come on. We're not going to hit right. Or I'm not going to,
Starting point is 00:07:43 there were some highlights of the book of Boba Fett. I'm not going to hate as much shooting this, our lockdown and shit like that was fucking cool, but yeah, no more, no more hatred, but yeah, I've again,
Starting point is 00:07:53 more stuff like that. Star Wars, not just for this series, but for the entire star Wars universe, keep that shit coming. Cause again, where you make it feel like a real universe, that's where it fucking a world building happens.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And we've seen it with Marvel. And I think watching the Clone Wars even makes a moment like that better because they really did a good job of humanizing the clones and making you feel for them. And Obi-Wan was like a companion to so many. He was a friend to so many. So for him to see that, it was, I'm sure, very heart-wrenching for him as a character. He also meets a girl that is trying to give him spice. She's like, oh, I got all different kinds of spice. I got this strain, this strain, this strain.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Really came off as a true drug dealer. And I didn't realize until afterwards that that is Ewan McGregor's daughter. She says at one point, like, oh, like I'm somebody's daughter. And it's Ewan McGregor's. That's his daughter. Her exact quote was, I was someone's daughter once. And I'm telling you, that shit was haunting, man.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That was some legitimately haunting shit that she said. And the fact that it's his, that's pretty cool. But as someone that has her, I was like, oh, that's fucked up. Basically, you live your whole life after you have kids just to not fuck it up, so then they become the people who are... By the way, the name of the planet was Dayu. I wrote it down. Big-time Penn Station vibes I got there.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And Bob Fox, he's no stranger time Penn Station vibes I got there. And Bob Fox, he's no stranger to Penn Station as a Jersey guy. What is the worst thing you've seen at Penn Station? Is there one moment, one thing that you saw? Oh, my God. I mean, so many. I've gotten, like, I talked about getting shoulder checked. That was, like, not too far from Penn Station. I mean, you see, like, see like people like constantly passed out like
Starting point is 00:09:25 shitting themselves literally like poop coming out of a butt in penn station um i think i've been asked for heroin in the penn station in the penn station bathroom either penn station or new work penn station which isn't a big improvement over the uh penn station the station's so nice they named it twice it's like why would would you ever name that fucking the same thing as the goddamn awful New York Penn Station? And then it's confusing. If you're coming from out of town, which I think Joe Judge got off at the newer Penn Station.
Starting point is 00:09:54 We were supposed to meet in the New York Penn Station, which I guess is a little precursor for his time in New York, unfortunately. But, I mean, there's just some absolute nightmare stories. I remember I went to the bathroom in Penn Station once just to take a piss and learned very quickly, bad idea. Just go to another McDonald's or whatever. I'm pretty sure there was a dude with his pants around his ankles, shit everywhere, and amongst the many who were in a similar state at that time.
Starting point is 00:10:20 If you guys take one thing away from the basement, visiting New York, do not go in the Penn Station bathrooms. That is the one word of wisdom we will leave you with there. And yeah, avoid it at like 3 a.m. if possible, or just go right to your train. Don't look around. Don't wander. There's no magic in Penn Station after midnight. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Large has a story. I believe it's at the Port Authority where he saw two bums fucking each other as another one was yelling at them, cursing and taking a shit. So a lot of wonder in New York City, which again, Diu, I kind of kind of brought me back to my old my old city right there. I got those kind of vibes seeing it all over again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Some people say Penn Station is the most wretched hive of scum and villainy in the entire country. And I would agree. That's a great point. And our boy obi-wan there too i think he knows like it's it's full of villainy and hive of scum and villainy because he's he was he did his checkoffs quaguan again he's like oh master sure could use a hand right now and yeah it's like when you start talking to yourself or you're like please god let me get through this like when you're on a bumpy plane you're're like, please, God, I'll never take a plane again.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Like that's Obi-Wan with Qui-Gon. Never doing it. Never doing it. And I don't say it's almost like when you try to use the force, you're just hoping that one time it's going to work. You're like, when's the last time you used the force or tried to use the force? I went to the American Dream Mall and they had a couple sliding doors. And every time, you know, you kind of in your mind you're like that was me i i was putting sienna to bed and the door was open and i was it was like cold so i wanted to keep the heat and i was like let's just give it a shot here you never know it was like two
Starting point is 00:11:54 or three weeks ago so i was like nope yeah you never know when the midichlorians are going to kick in it's like an allergy sometimes you're not allergic to something for like half your life and then all of a sudden you're allergic one of these days one of us is going to get the force it's going to be awesome awesome oh it'll be big for the podcast that'll be awesome yeah it'll be amazing right now we're just like jedis like dinesh yeah basically and i also thought his daughter in this scene came off as a more natural like young kid in the star wars universe than like the mod kids in book of boba fett yep it was a very similar role but like she just came off way more and maybe that's because she has the chemistry with her dad like that makes sense but i don't know you could throw the pink hair on her but
Starting point is 00:12:34 you don't have to make her like steam punky like i i again i i didn't i feel like scales on her skin which was cool yeah yeah they can get crazy like star wars you don't have to just have these crazy out of sorts bigger than life characters and then you have like the normal humans you can kind of have the scales kind of have some little quirks here and there so hopefully they do that uh you know in the future shows and movies this next scene i love we get a little kid running up to obi-wan and being like a jedi you need a jet i can bring you to a jedi and he brings him to our guy kail, who we love. I know you love Kumail.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I love Kumail. I don't know anyone who doesn't. And at first you think like, oh shit, he's a Jedi. I wrote all caps, Kumail, Kumail the Jedi. Oh my God, this is awesome for him. He's not a Jedi. He's a scam artist. Someone that you could see around Penn Station
Starting point is 00:13:21 or Washington Square Park, the chess, what do they call it? Hustlers. He's basically just, he has magnets and he's pretending that he could use the force. And this is definitely something that would exist at this point in the Star Wars universe. It was like, oh, how could I never think of that?
Starting point is 00:13:36 Just some kind of scummy scam artist pretending he's a Jedi being like, oh, I'll help you get off planet for X amount of credits. And Obi-Wan fishes it out immediately. He knows right away. He's like, oh yeah, you're a Jedi. Let me grab that magnet out of your hand, asshole. Yeah, like if you're the same as a Jedi,
Starting point is 00:13:51 like, you know, opening or closing doors and windows and shit, you probably feel that, right? Like almost like a breeze just because you have the force. And he's like, oh, this guy's a grifter. But again, like real life shit, real life scumbag New York shit brought into the Star Wars universe. I appreciate that as a scumbag New york shit brought into the star wars universe i appreciate that as a scumbag new yorker i just love to see it this guy will be doing like the
Starting point is 00:14:09 three card monty or the shell game whatever he does just to rip you off three card monty is a big one don't do that in new york you'll get don't if i've never seen it to this day but like i i kind of always wanted to see it just to see like how you've never seen that no i've never you've seen it i've seen in washington square park we used to do like man on the street videos and you would see like tables set up next to the best people with the three card monte yeah it's like that's like once people don't understand like carnival games are like the same way like that like they're all rigged against you but for some reason carnival games are just fine and they're like you know allowed or whatever because i guess you can win occasionally where i feel like you can't win the three card monty actually at penn station too i had a guy once beg me for money he's like i need
Starting point is 00:14:50 to get home i need to um you know get back to my family i just need money for a train ticket i gave him like five bucks or whatever a week later same guy same story and that was when i learned we do not give money to people begging for it i will give food actually that's a big thing i do now is i will take my leftovers with me and either i'll give it to someone or i'll just like leave it near garbage so the rats can't get it but someone can you know kind of take it and eat it off of there uh again in new york city this was basically canal you're going to canal street to find a jedi that's where i got my fake id back in the day you're now going to get fucking the force down in canal street i love it There are kind of vibes of that planet from Loki as well in this place.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Do you know the planet I'm talking about that was like collapsing in on itself that they had to get off of? There's a lot of the neon stuff in the nighttime especially. It was a cool look for a planet. Also reminded me of like the underbelly of Coruscant in Attack of the Clones, like the beginning. That's where I thought we were at first because I had forgotten
Starting point is 00:15:43 that we were going to the Dayu planet. I was like, like oh wait what was the name of the planet they had mentioned because we had just watched episode one this morning and then i was like all right because i got the solo vibes which is usually not a very good thing but i i was like i feel like they're gonna they're gonna make car sound better in the you know coming shows and movies for us but i'm a thousand percent with you was that the one with the train in loki was that the train planet too where they're on the train yes yeah great stuff loki dancing with the knives oh shit's great getting drunk good another he smashes the glass or whatever i have a question for you bob i don't know if you know stuff off the top of your head i guess you wouldn't know the exact answer but how many pounds of bantha beef do you have to chop to get a thousand credits
Starting point is 00:16:24 this guy asking for a thousand credits i'm like that's like fucking five years of Bantha beef do you have to chop to get a thousand credits? This guy asking for a thousand credits. I'm like, that's like fucking five years of Bantha fucking butchering. What were they giving them? Were the 50 in the first episode? They were like, and they were like a hundred was the normal and 50 was the half rate or something.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Oh, is that what they said? I didn't hear the number. So I guess that, but I don't even know if the credits train, if there are public credits or I don't know what the credit systems even like at this point. That's a lot of Bantha butchering though. Nonetheless, that must suck. And again,
Starting point is 00:16:48 Dinesh, the only reason I don't like Dinesh is because he's so fucking jacked in the Eternals. And I'm like, you're not, you're a nerd. You're supposed to be like us in the basement. You're not supposed to be that ripped and good looking. He has a great line against Kumail in this moment where he's like, I'm going to use you basically. And he's like, oh, what? I thought like you thought I was a rat. And he says, rats know the sewers better than anyone else. I was like, oh, that's fucking classic. Oh, you're on right there. That's good writing. And he kind of sneaks into, he sees an alien, sneaks into a Star Wars meth lab, spice lab. I don't know what we call this, but I wrote Breaking Bad Obi-Wan. He's got the gas mask on and everything he eventually finds a
Starting point is 00:17:25 little prison in the back and there was a really cool hand-to-hand combat scene where he just fucks two people up in a hallway it was the first action scene of kenobi probably other than you know the chase which you know we won't talk about yeah i i like racked my brain i paused it for like five minutes and tried to think of a good like pun using breaking bells like heisen kenobi breaking ob i couldn't really get one i did see someone say better call mall that's a good fucking uh way to describe this is a funny story i designed a shirt clem better call mall shirt when i was in high school and i sold it and then they made that the title of the final episode or the final
Starting point is 00:18:05 level in episode one for Lego Star Wars. Better call them all. Bob Fox. I'm going to think that Bob Fox basically created that the name of that level on its own. Somehow, somehow that's like someone's favorite shirt is like, I saw that shirt and I knew I had a name at that level. I'll post a picture of the shirt, like for the people, like I'm sure I could find it. I found it pretty recently. Um, when I saw the levels called that I went back and found it it looks just like the yellow better call Saul logo but it says like need a senator kidnapped like better call them all you know it just changed some Star Wars do you think of that we got to get like the all the Bob Fox old teams how many times did you email someone at barstool a t-shirt idea?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Oh man. Dozens. Literally dozens. That's when people want to know, how do you get to barstool? That amount of work and grind. Bob Fox was on the ground. And I will know,
Starting point is 00:19:01 I feel like I told this story of me getting to barstool a bunch. And I like, I told it in a way that people misinterpreted it. And then I said, I emailed every day and said, I'll do whatever. It wasn't just that. I think it was the fact that I was actually including work with every email. Every email had a t-shirt design or a podcast or a blog submitted to it. We get every day, I'm sure you get the same DMs.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I'll do anything to work at Barstool. You can't really decipher through like which person would be better until they send you the work. So if you're looking to get a job in Barstool and you're looking to get into any realm, this doesn't just apply to me and Clem, whatever email stuff to the people here or DM it to them on Twitter, tweet it to them, but like actually put the work before you send it. I think that's the best advice. Cause you see that even tweeting like videos that people make like that's how so many people here have gotten hired in the past few years like you said dude any and it has a barstool theme to it where i always think mckenzie where she does the video she takes a podcast and she just acts like the people it's it's it's barstool centric it's pretty
Starting point is 00:20:01 like basic in terms of the setup but it has such a deep core to it. All the fans are going to love that kind of stuff. So, yeah, perfectly said. So, Bob Fox, I got to see some of these shirts. Better Call them All. Unbelievable shirt. It was a good one. That was a good one, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Years before Kenobi brought it to the big screen. Like you said, it's nice to know that there is Star Wars meth labs out there in a galaxy far, far away. It looked cool. It reminded me almost of the Breaking Bad, but also's like the little breaking bad reference in zootopia where they like go to the yeah and that and it kind of reminded me that the way it was lit and everything under the lights he finds leia's prison cell kind of another like poetry it rhymes where it's like you think of luke finding leia in the prison on death star but she's not in there it's not in there. It's a trap. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:20:46 It's a trap. He gets cornered by Flea and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I wrote right on screen. I was like, this crazy Flea is on screen with Obi-Wan right now. And like he was holding his own in the scene. I was like, like I said, last episode, I was like, he feels like a good actor right now. So it is a trap. But Obi-Wan kind of flips it on them, hits a big smoke pellet on the ground, episode one style maybe, where the gas was in the room and they had to get out of it.
Starting point is 00:21:09 He slinks out of the room, finds Leia, and then the Grand Inquisitor meets up with Reva. He's like, oh, Obi-Wan really is here? She's like, oh, yeah. And he's like, all right, we don't need you. You're the least of all of us. You basically suck at your job. We hate you. You could leave the planet i'm
Starting point is 00:21:25 going to take over from here kind of reminded me of rogue one as well where um who is it uh ben mendelsohn is like krennic director krennic takes credit for the death star over tarkin or tarkin opposite tarkin takes credit for the death star over uh director krennic and he's like my achievement corporate fucking politics even in a galaxy far far away as well it's just a long long time ago it was the same just as it is today uh when so obi-wan not being able to use a lightsaber you realize just how much he is hamstrung by that right because you see lightsaber you know it's a jedi he does like he is like a fucking mortal combat uppercut straight out of like sub-zero i was
Starting point is 00:22:06 amazed i was like fuck a clothesline too like a legit wwf clothesline at one point i didn't know kenobi had that shit in him god bless and i don't know it's obi-wan is a sweet name but like kenobi i feel like rings out in the streets more than even obi-wan right they're like kenobi's here i know he's maybe it's uh grievous always would say kenobi and like and also in the clone wars that's like the most famous line out of darth maul like sam whitworth just the voice is amazing and he has this iconic like kenobi if star wars can do nothing else they get the names right every single time uh it is embarrassing though that kenobi fell for a flea trap and this is a
Starting point is 00:22:45 flea trap and it's granted it's also like the inquisitor to rave his trap and everything but it just didn't look good i also you're talking about episode one vibes i actually got vibes of heisenberg where he's like the only thing is this isn't meth and he throws the rock on the ground and it blows up uh two goes fucking breaking bad it's such like the former kingpin it was at the corner apartment oh that was such a good episode as he's walking away from that yeah yeah and this is obviously different in terms of it like they're choking but i'm like i know that like the jedi have their codes you have to like kill these fucking guys though like you can't be like up there is an actual jedi obi-wan kenobi's here you gotta like
Starting point is 00:23:23 slit their fucking throats with your lightsaber as they're dead or do something like you can't just have her go there and like oh yeah everything you said is true ben kenobi is he obi-wan kenobi is here what are we doing obi-wan jesus christ the codes to throw out the window at this point like you know that's excused at this point there's no rules like you said the war is kind of over the war will begin again battle of yavin i kind of consider that like oh the beginning of the next war but like as of right now obi kill those guys it's like obi-wan it's like either we have to be complete cowards and not fight anybody or we have to like not hurt anybody and let them stick around it's like you idiots this is why you keep losing
Starting point is 00:24:01 to the fucking bad guys it's because you just allow them to, like, not die. And they, like, figure out and they can, like, hunt you down. You goddamn. I'm just getting more mad at the Jedi every single episode. You're almost turning me now, too, because the more you talk, the more I'm like, he doesn't even change his last name. He doesn't change his haircut. He doesn't change his beard, his style. He shows up to this planet in the Jedi robes doing his fucking Ewan McGregor Jedi.
Starting point is 00:24:25 You know, he's doing the twirl on the mustache. It's like, bro, you are doing every checkmark of Obi-Wan that they need. It's crazy. The more he tries to like hide, the more he looks like a fucking Jedi. What an asshole. He was like, yeah, he's like, let me put on a disguise. My Jedi robe. They won't be able to tell here.
Starting point is 00:24:42 What? I'm going to pull it over my head though so they keep seeing my face that's exactly what the jedi look like hey hood over face you goddamn just shave your beard it's a fucking sweet beard shave it shave your head he kind of looked like a skinny version of me you're a handsome guy kenobi yeah like and again smooth kenobi yeah out of eight jazillion names where like star wars names you can have an sqq gw batman symbol another batman symbol and somehow it all like makes a real name i didn't even know you knew elon musk's kid name instead obi-wan said no just gonna go by ben doesn't sound anything like obi-wan
Starting point is 00:25:19 just gonna go ben you fucking idiot moron dickhead ah i'm Ah, I'm so mad. He's got to get us back, you know, on this series. We're like, come on, Obi-Wan, how could you do this? But it's almost like watching a horror movie. The main character the whole time, you're like, come on, how could you not see? Get in the moving car, whatever, you know, like. Yeah, Obi-Wan's the guy that's like, no, I'm going to go into this abandoned shack filled with chainsaws.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It's like, Obi-Wan, that is the wrong place to go right there. Someone needs to Photoshop him in that commercial exactly did you also see that there was the giant there was a character looked like the giant muppet guy and i did he's like an ogre i didn't know what his name is his name is sweetums i think that was just him i think he was just on that planet i have to go back and like brighten it up a little i'm like oh like i guess sweetums is now canon for uh star wars which was pretty awesome to see and i love that line where he says uh the grand inquisitor said to rave he goes no matter what power you crave it won't change what you are and that was a great line and i was thinking a dickhead i was
Starting point is 00:26:15 doing the eddie voice he's a dickhead he's just being a dickhead right now he's being a dickhead and then uh and then she says stench is your failure. Like, oh, what a fucking line. And that dude definitely has a stench. I don't know if it's failure, if it's body odor. He kind of could be like, even like a Bengay. Like he's like, he's, he, he lubes his head up and shit like that. But he definitely has a stench to him.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Like motor oil, even maybe like something weird, something where you're like, why do you even smell like that? That doesn't even make sense but yeah obi-wan and leia change and they run away from these like bounty hunters that they're kind of getting hunted by and i wanted to note the obi-wan bounty poster was badass like i would hang that poster up in my room where it was like almost the wanted poster of obi-wan on the screens and everything john wick vibes ever since john wick anytime there's a bounty on anyone i'm like oh that's john wick like come on even the mandalorian episode that deborah chow did could be a connection like that same direction whatnot um but they run away and then leia eventually gets concerned that obi-wan doesn't have her best interests in mind because
Starting point is 00:27:22 she sees like the picture and she's like why is that picture up there she starts running away from him which is a whole fucking you're like oh my god come on leia they go on a rooftop chase leia eventually falls and obi-wan has to use the force to save her um awesome scene the way that they handled it and the way that it was kind of it felt big obi-wan using the force it felt like he hadn't used the force in possibly 10 years the way he was like really struggling and trying to channel it and then just got her at the last second yeah she and the thing about lei here which i'm interested to see what people are going to think of the child actor because i've seen a lot of good stuff i can simply see some star wars fans just hating all child child actors but i feel
Starting point is 00:28:04 like most people are gonna like her she hits him with like you'd be more like my i'm more like your granddaughter right where he's saying yeah a couple times i liked their interactions i thought like especially leia was good in the last episode but i thought she was at her best when going back and forth with obi-wan which is another thing like last episode we said is she gonna just forget that this ever happened because when she says like general you know kenobi you served my father in the clone wars why wouldn't she just be like hey remember me remember we're in penn station together that's fucking crazy right
Starting point is 00:28:34 those fucking people are coming after you save my life and she's also like sassy which i think kind of plays into the leia we know like think think about Leia in New Hope where she's like, I got to save ourselves. She's blasting herself out. And that's kind of the way Leia is as a character, even episode five and a little bit in six. So I do like that you kind of see it with her at a young age. The chasing scene, this chasing scene was silly as well. And I will say this, like chasing a kid through a crowded place is kind of like a weird thing where you're trying not to hit people, yet they're small.
Starting point is 00:29:09 There was a few points where I think we're all for two on chasing. That's all I'm going to say. I think we're all for two. This one was way better though. Like the other one was like so bad. Like, like you said, last episode, like that didn't deserve to be in a Star Wars product. This one I thought was like passable. I didn't think it wasn't
Starting point is 00:29:26 great but it wasn't horrible i probably don't say anything about it if the last chase scene didn't exist but with it and i will say like when you are looking for a kid and like you they like you for just a second you take your eye off them and they run away and your wife's gonna say were you on your phone i'm like no i swear to god i wasn't fun i just looked the other way for a second and you know you're about to and you start like looking at all the things, just like Obi-Wan's looking at all the different, like crazy things that are there as he's looking for the kid. And like you said,
Starting point is 00:29:50 a kid could like sneak away. Also even Penn station, if some little kid was screaming and like his old dude was chasing her, even Penn station, someone would step up and be, Hey man, like what's your deal here? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Stranger danger. I think even New York city people recognize stranger danger. So I did not like that um but the other thing was all you had to do was make her float for just a second and you could have avoided she wasn't like make me a balloon animal and it's like i'm not a magician lady i don't know how to make a rock float just show her you have the force just do something fucking i think it's it's it's i don't say using the force like riding a bike i've never used a force thanks for fucking reminding me obi-wan but yeah like a little pebble or something isn't that hard right or even just like make the sound with your do do do she's a kid she's
Starting point is 00:30:35 fucking a smart kid but she's not that fucking smart like think of something god damn it obi-wan i'm really i'm really i have to i have to like pump the brakes here a little. I have to like buy for my guy because I don't think yourself to like the inquisitors after saying you weren't going to like them. I'm going to be like, I hope Vader chops this motherfucker in half. Oh, that's the other thing that, you know what, that's exactly what's going to happen. I'm going to predict the future of this podcast is maybe the inquisitors aren't cool enough to completely turn Clem to the dark side. Vader is once Vader comes to the show, Clem is going back to the dark side. It's calling me.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I'm just going to say that. I'm looking in that fucking tunnel with like the iguana in Dagobah and it's like cold. I'm looking at that tunnel like a bird about to go back there right now. If I watch Empire Strikes Back, I'm basically on the dark side. I can watch that tonight and I'm just going to show up with the fucking Vader mask on next episode. So all the commotion of the blasters firing on the rooftops gets Reva's attention. She starts running over there doing parkour. There's parkour scene after parkour.
Starting point is 00:31:35 She loves parkour. She jumps over fences. She vaults things, all of that. And this is when he gets the save. And then the Grand Inquisitor kills our guy Flea. He completely just like, it's like a helicopter blade almost that he does with his lightsaber. We know that they could also use those as helicopter blades from Rebels. And they could fly away on their lightsabers.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Very controversial when they brought it into Rebels. So I doubt they'll bring it to the live action show. But it is a possibility. RIP to our dog Flea. RIPp our dog flea that was tough to see played his role though a little bit of um yeah a little i mean granted it wasn't his call to get flea involved but it's a little bit like the the joker in dark knight where it's like we're just gonna start taking down everyone until the head honcho is the only one left right so yeah that kind of goes and this is a dated reference i understand but for anyone around my age you'll understand this leia kid leia is basically like natalia from goldeneye where obi-wan's just trying to keep her alive and she's doing everything in her power to get killed
Starting point is 00:32:33 and he basically like barely saves her at the end natalia from goldeneye was the fucking worst you gotta keep her alive in this one level and she just was like running right into the gunfire and you're just like what the fuck am am I going to do? So Leah, like it's amazing that Leah survives all the way to episode four, let alone episode, the movie we do not speak of anymore. And then came back to life and the scene we do not speak of anymore. Well, rise of Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:32:55 She's alive in that one too. She unfortunately passed away in that one. Yeah. Respect to Kumail for turning things around on this episode, because he was just a scummy scam artist. He was a rat who knew the sewers, right? Acting as a Jedi, stealing credits from families. And then like many Star Wars characters do, kind of a Lando or DJ-esque move.
Starting point is 00:33:16 He says, you know what? I'm going to turn it around. I'm going to redeem myself. He gives Obi-Wan passage off planet, tells him how to get to this area. And then he distracts riva before he distracts riva while they could get to that ship and there's like a very heartfelt moment where as they're talking back and forth obi-wan and leia he's like you remind me of someone like she was strong and stubborn like you you know it was you know he's talking about padme in that
Starting point is 00:33:41 moment and it's like oh my i saw some people saying is he talking about Padme in that moment. And it's like, oh my, I saw some people saying, is he talking about Satine? But Satine, he also calls her fearless. Like I love Satine in the cartoon and everything. She straight up wasn't fearless. Like she was very worried about Mandalore. She was worried about the Death Watch. Padme was more of the fearless one. I think it was definitely a Padme reference.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He's like, yeah, and Clem was talking about in the first recap episode where you're running through the woods and you have a body double fucking called it man obi-wan knows what's up kenobi excuse me kenobi he sounds so much cooler as kenobi he fucking he does and reva while she's like i'm not interrogating kumail but she's like in the conversation with him where he's buying time she kind of has like a kylo ren ability where she's like oh wait a minute like i know where he is and she just starts going she kind of reads his mind which you don't see every jedi i have i like that she has that it might be a dark side attack and then she corners them where lei is able to get on the ship she takes the lightsaber out it's like
Starting point is 00:34:39 this dark area we've seen the shot of obi-wan in the trailer you just see his eyes and it's dark and she says vader is going to be like very you know pleased or vader wants to get you and you see his eyes like change for a second she's like oh yeah you didn't know he's alive anakin skywalker is alive which is like whoa i'm surprised vader even like she knows that he's anakin skywalker i didn't know how does he know how does he know how does she he's Anakin Skywalker. I didn't know that. How does he know? How does he know? How does she know? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I don't know. How can she swear? I'm going to keep getting louder with higher. I sound like Frank after the best. Oh, three. Nothing. How does she know? For real. How does she know?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Oh. Was she on the Jedi temple or was she in the Jedi? Did she see him in the Jedi temple? I saw some people saying she might have had like some sort of access to the Jedi records or something. Saw that he was Vader, but like that, that is a secret that this fucking guy is,
Starting point is 00:35:34 uh, you know, Darth fucking Vader and he's alive and he's this giant killer. She doesn't really say what he is though. Right. She just says that he is alive. So yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:35:44 You like, where does she like, when you what he is though right she just says that he is alive so yeah true you like where does she like when you say he's alive you're saying he's alive after obi-wan sliced him diced him and basically lit him on fire higher you know learned about the higher ground the hard way unfortunately so i'm and obi-wan now from his point of view he's like oh fuck not only is he alive he's been hunting me for 10 fucking years like he is the one that's sending all these people after me hunting like he it looked like i wrote down in my notes his performance was so good ewan mcgregor in this scene it looked like he's having a panic attack when he was in there he was like starting to breathe like in and out and then there's like a distraction and uh riva kills the grand inquisitor which is crazy because he's alive and rebels which takes place after this so I don't think he's actually dead.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I don't know how he survived that, but I think he'll somehow come back. And then you see Obi-Wan's face, and then they cut straight to Anakin's face. Anakin in the fucking bacta tank. We said, hey, you gotta cast Hayden. If you're casting him, you're gonna show his face, right?
Starting point is 00:36:42 They show his face, and it's terrifying. He almost looked like the guy from Mad Max who has like the thing on his head without the hair and all that. He's burnt up white skin. Like it hasn't seen sunlight in a decade. I mean, terrifying. And also the, the best, like this felt like the end of a premiere, you know, where it's like, Oh, this is a, Oh fuck moment.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Like you talked about a baby yoda type moment that was the baby yoda type moment that this double episode i mean it's basically just one long episode most people probably watched it back to back and that is like the oh fuck here we go and now it'll be up to star wars to then these next four episodes keep that momentum going and i don't think even the next episode i think we've always said or i don't know if it leaked that people said four or five, six is going to probably be Vader time, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I think Vader time. That's fucking. They just hit like a button Vader time. And he just fucking comes out, pulls the fucking lightsaber out of there. And I'll tell you, the only part of this that bummed me out was my first thought was that fucking back to tank i i have to admit if i had if they had just released this before boba fett i would have been like oh
Starting point is 00:37:52 my god it's vader but my thing was is he gonna start having flashbacks again are we doing this whole thing so i have to admit but again i'm excited for it i'm stoked that's the vader the vader element in this is what i think is going to put to bring this show to the next level the great inquisitor bum just an absolute fucking bum didn't make it through the second episode i thought this guy like grand inquisitor like maybe major inquisitor maybe like junior inquisitor colonel yeah exactly grand inquisitor fucking joke and maybe i guarantee he comes back to life and they'd be like well to like to heal him we had to like do some things and it's going to kind of be like the mountain for game of thrones and that's what's going to turn his head to the cone shape so all the nerds
Starting point is 00:38:35 will be happy stop crying in the basement everything's going to be all right they'll explain it all trust me they're like felonious heard your fucking please um but and and people are so mad i can't believe you could kill him make rebels canon again guys i don't think that they're taking one of the main characters out of a dave feloni show like dave feloni's involved in this if dave feloni wanted to he could have said hey deborah make sure you don't kill him he's like around and things after this i don't think lucasfilm was making mistakes like that at this day and age. I saw someone on Twitter, and I kind of like this idea.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He's like, let's just start fucking with all the canon shit and just be like, and completely fuck with people's timelines and the trilogy and stuff and just kill Obi-Wan without any explanation. It's like, Obi-Wan's dead. It's like, no, no, no, he's in episode four. He's the whole reason Luke goes into the-
Starting point is 00:39:22 It's like an Avril Lavigne clone comes in, like one of those, it just looks just like him, yeah and that like that'll let you know that nobody is safe they just fucking kill Obi-Wan in his own show in like episode three and you'll be like what the fuck just happened there so again there's enough crazy I've already lived that shit in in the sequel trilogy where we're just bringing back characters that don't need to be brought back from the dead to use um but it would be kind of funny. And again, like, I don't think the Grand Inquisitors,
Starting point is 00:39:47 and there's been other people, right? Fennec Chan, right? She was like in the same, I think we thought she was all cut. She got shot in the stomach, yeah. All of a sudden they were like, she'd be great to bring back. Let's bring her back. And she was great to bring back. Darth Maul got cut in half and fell like a fucking billion feet.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And he ended up coming back as a spider so somehow some way I can believe that everything will make sense they can make it make sense in the end they'll use the right kind of duct tape or whatever I'm not too worried about it and I don't even fucking know I didn't even know who the inquisitors were until the fucking trailer came out so I think it's right I will say though
Starting point is 00:40:18 the inquisitors knowing that the organas know a living Jedi it's kind of a problem now isn't it and granted like the grand inquisitor being dead does cut like one of those endings off but it just seems like it's kind of weird that now she knows raven knows and anyone else that might be like on the email chain it's like oh yeah by the way he found obi-wan and like we captured the Empire knows as the yeah it's like it's going to be interesting to see
Starting point is 00:40:51 at the end of this series where they leave everyone off pre a new hope because there's a lot of questions already up in the air about that where it's how does Leia not remember how is Luke not going to remember is Luke ever going to meet him is that going to be it's all to be determined and next week don't wait till friday don't let that get in your head it is coming out on wednesday next week and then we're on wednesdays
Starting point is 00:41:15 from here on out so that's like an interesting little fold we'll probably do the same schedule we had for book of boba fett and our marvel shows, Wednesday release days, and then Friday recaps on the YouTube channel and on podcast feeds and everything. We just did a little extra special thing this week for Obi-Wan, the premiere and whatnot. Another thing I wanted to talk about before we get out of here, people are still DMing me and they're not thrilled that we're going to see Obi-Wan versus Vader again. And they're like, it doesn't really make sense that like they're fighting again. Like I thought a new hope was the first time that they saw each other since Mustafar.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I think I thought that obviously my whole life, but I think it's very excusable based on two things. I wrote a blog and I mentioned these in revenge of the Sith Padme's last words to Obi-Wan are like, there's still light in him. Obi-Wan there's still light. I think that could motivate Obi-Wan to be like, I want to pull him back from the dark side.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Still Padme is still telling me there's light. Cause he's not really on the death star. He's not like, come on Vader, come back from the dark side. He's accepted that Vader is a fucking bad guy. Space Hitler at that point. And then in return of the Jedi, there's that line Obi-Wan once thought as you did when Luke is trying to turn Vader back. And even on Mustafar, like, he didn't do a lot of come back to the light side.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He did a lot of how could you? How could you do that? How could you do that to Padme? You were my brother. I think this fight is going to be more come back to the light side. And we're going to see that. And then the line in Return of the Jedii will have a whole new meaning okay yeah i think you sold me on those two and i will say like trust the feige trust the feloni trust the fabbro like they have to know the
Starting point is 00:42:56 stakes that if they fuck up this there will be hell to pay from star wars nerds not seen since i mean probably like a few years ago to be honest it's right since skywalker came out like the amount of slander rise of skywalker just gets out of the blue on my timeline even before the star wars shows came back this year people are just like man i caught rise of skywalker just the other day fuck that steaming pile of shit and i'm just like wow people really hated that movie i was so disconnected from the last jedi i didn't realize there was so much hatred towards it So I like the whole sequel trilogy Even that movie, I'm like, it's got it's faults
Starting point is 00:43:29 I mean the scene where Rey fucking chops The TIE fighter in half and then Accidentally fucking kills What she thinks is Chewie in the transport Oh, what a scene That was a ride, that was a rollercoaster ride I forgot about that But like I said
Starting point is 00:43:44 Having those two face off They're going to have to nail that scene ride that was a roller coaster ride that's a good thing about that uh but like i said having those two face off they're gonna have to nail that scene because you are kind of taking a little bit of that whole scene away from a new hope and then sith which kind of was a special thing to lump one in the middle but again they're making it a trilogy like a gaudy ward you know yeah yeah all the great all the great fighters have their trilogies right there so that would be the and we're getting part two which sometimes i feel like is the best so fact that's usually the best in fights i think we did a best fights draft on the spin and backfist podcast this week and all three of our first round picks were rematches so that does there you go true and this is almost like a frankie edgar gray maynard uh rivalry in
Starting point is 00:44:23 my opinion maynard um if in my opinion, Maynard. If you don't know that Frankie Edgar losses that lost the first fight, kind of like Anakin, there's a draw in the second fight, which I would assume this has to be a draw on this show. And then he wins the third fight, which would be the one on the death star. So that's the MMA trilogy. I would compare it to for the little,
Starting point is 00:44:41 you usually do your sports comparisons. I took over. I took the pilot seat for that. I love it. I was going gonna try to name like ollie frazier or something like that that was the only one i was gonna go and i probably would have butchered like the three different um fights that they had along the way i know first one was at madison square garden second one was the rumble in the jungle right and then thrill in manila so i guess rumble in the jungle would no one of the one of the rumble in the Jungle, right? And then Thriller and Manila. So I guess Rumble in the Jungle would be one of the- No, one of the-
Starting point is 00:45:05 Rumble in the Jungle was against Foreman. Oh, no, that's Foreman. That's Foreman. Yeah, what am I saying? There's a great documentary on that as well. Like, I think it's on HBO. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah. I think it's that one. It's like when they were filming it at the time and they show, like, all the AC in the hotel went out. There was only one floor with AC, so they put, like, Ali up there and just the whole production into it. It was crazy. And there's just a shot of George Foreman hitting a heavy bag,
Starting point is 00:45:31 just fucking going to town on it. And he like puts a dent in a heavy bag. It's, it's pretty crazy. Yeah. And George Foreman, I love how this has become, I kind of like it,
Starting point is 00:45:41 but now we're going to some combat sports here. George Foreman, just from like, I kind of get like, like I love old school boxing even before like I was born just because I feel like heavyweights. That's when they just ruled the fucking world. And like I was around for the beginning of Tyson and I barely remember. I just know he was a force of nature. But like it was like stories back then, you know, boxing at its best is so fucking cool. And that's why i hope we have guys
Starting point is 00:46:05 like canelo and triple g just want them to kind of be good so you have at least good boxers you know floyd was was that for a little you know style wasn't but those boxers like george form would just murder mother he was a bad and then he created like one of the greatest inventions ever the george foreman grill yeah shout out to him that's huge like that that honestly might have been a better thing than his entire fighting career. By the way, it was Oli Frazier 1 and 2 and then the Thrill in Manila. I thought that Oli Frazier 2 had a nickname, but joke's on me. I fucked that up.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Guess not. Guess didn't need one. Do we have a hashtag for the end of this episode? What would be a good hashtag? Let's see here. Hashtag JediKumail? Yes, yes. I kind of like that. Everyone Jedi Kumail. Yes, yes. I kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Everyone loves Kumail. And we will be back for our next episode three recap on Friday. So a week from today, if this comes out on Friday, if you get us to 250, we're recording it before it's there. So we're not sure yet. And it'll be less than a week from Saturday if it comes out on Saturday. So we appreciate you guys tuning in in the comments. Last time we did predictions, what should we do this time? Hmm. What episode do we see Vader suited up? You think that works?
Starting point is 00:47:13 I like that. Okay. Okay. We'll rock with that. I think that's a good one. Or what episode would you say? What episode? I mean, you think they fight in the finale, right?
Starting point is 00:47:22 You don't think they do that before? Yeah. Yeah. The penultimate. So yeah. What episode do we see Vader? I'm talking vader suited up not in that goddamn flashback i think oh and give us like we'll do like a death pool this week give us like one yeah you think that we've seen so far that you think is going to die by the end of the series great call great call death pool put it down in the comments of youtube make sure you like this video as well show us all the support you can because we got to keep the lights on here at the basement. We appreciate everyone that is
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