My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 211 - 'OBI-WAN KENOBI' EPISODE 3 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

Robbie and Clem discuss the THIRD episode of ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi’ on Disney+, where we saw a preview for the rematch of the century, got an old Clone Wars Jedi namedropped, learned about the Kenobi fa...mily, and more! 3Chi: Use code STOOL5 at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Gametime: Download the app and use promo code MMB for $20 off your first purchase! American Handball Company: Follow @official_tahc on Twitter and Instagram! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello there, and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3C. I am your host, Robbie Fox. With me is my co-host, Clem, my co-pilot, Clem. And we are here to talk about Obi-Wan kenobi part three this was in my opinion the best episode yet by a long shot i think it helps that you get the inclusion of the big bad guy that you see over in clem's corner over there wow i did the point first uh i did it on the right side for the first time that's like the usb when they say you have a 50 50 shot but i get it wrong every time how we doing clem oh i'm doing good spoilers spoilers spoilers the big man came and he brought the motherfucking thunder holy shit i mean it was unbelievable is
Starting point is 00:00:54 the vader that we've been asking to see and we saw him like in episode three we thought we were gonna have to wait till episode four maybe we'll see him episode five maybe the action kicks off episode six we'll see like okay these guys whip their lightsabers out no no no spoiler spoiler spoilers it happened here they had a whole confrontation vader fucking lit fucking sand on fire like he was the dudley boys in ecw sending someone through a flaming table. And he dragged Obi-Wan through that shit. It was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Yeah. They gave us a,
Starting point is 00:01:29 it was more than a taste. It was a full blown appetizer. It was, it was something it was, Oh, that was, that was a stranger things. We discussed Bob Fox doesn't like mozzarella sticks,
Starting point is 00:01:40 which I'm trying to, I'm going to try not to bring up here. Cause it lasted about five full minutes debate about that. But I, you know, I felt it's like when you have yourself a good appetizer, I felt satisfied, but I do want more.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I want a lot more Disney. Don't wait for the entree. Yeah. Like I remember we were saying how it's like the, um, the boxing matches, it would be like the trilogy at this point. Now that this tech,
Starting point is 00:02:03 this is almost like a sparring session. I'm not even counting this as like part of the card this doesn't even get like a wikipedia entry as a bullet point this is kind of a little footnote it's like by the way they sparred a little bit in the desert it was kind of cool but i want some big ass shit coming um i i also will say i'm interested to see your thoughts right now i think this was your favorite episode of the trilogy of the first three so far but i will say i do think this show in my expectations will be better than this i'm hoping it's better oh i think so yeah no i think like you said this just kicked things off this the two fighters pushing each other at the press conference before the big title fight that's what
Starting point is 00:02:39 it is that that is a veteran of the fight game right there that is a great comparison bob i love it great and like the fight comparisons that we're making here kind of work for me because this was very like Rocky-esque to me where it's like you see Rocky get his ass kicked in like three is it? And then he's got to come back and get back to that Rocky that he was. This is kind of like what Obi-Wan's doing here. I mean, we'll get into the entire episode now. We'll go through it like we did last week with episodes one and two um just the notes that i took down while i was
Starting point is 00:03:09 watching kind of like the stranger things episode we kick off with an amazing like vader suit up and it looked brutal the whole time like they're putting spikes into his chest to put the plate in it's going there's like metal plates going around his burned skin around his neck and obi-wan is hearing all these quotes from the prequels it was like a pretty awesome very horror movie way to start and we get a lot of horror movie vibes in this episode yeah it turns out when you're burnt to a crisp and you've lost like half your body and they're just sticking you with robotic shit it's not going to be fun it's not an easy process and again that's kind of the coolest part about Vader. After we saw that at the end of Revenge of the Sith was just like how
Starting point is 00:03:50 much that suit is half, he's more machine than he is man. And you get to see that plus the anger inside him, plus just like the physical pain he must be in every time he gets it going. Very exciting shit. And at that point I was like was like all right we're not going to end up on some faraway land and doing whatever by the way i'll just let this off the jump i could not believe i i got a after this episode was over it said since you watched obi-wan kenobi go watch phantom menace and i said no thanks the amount of people that came back was like that is a great movie why are you slandering phantom menace buddy talk to prequel stan talk to prequel friend talk to my guy robbie fox over here that is your people i will go to my
Starting point is 00:04:31 grave saying phantom menace is not a good movie and i just re-watched it two summers ago with everyone the late camera bar still we all did it and we all just like you could find that on their youtube by the way that's a fun watch go back we did all the star wars movies we did some with alex sulkin it was a really good time those prequel watches but something i want to bring up right off the jump how about hayden christians and get in the bag returning for like being a stuntman so far i assume we're gonna get a full prequel sequencer like a flashback sequence in some way because so far he there's been like two quick glimpses at his scarred face that's it shout out it's like got all that money for the prequels to begin with and then had to deal with a lot of hate and this is kind of the sugar the cherry on top if you may uh i'm
Starting point is 00:05:17 hoping and again someone doesn't like the prequels i have no problem with the prequel timeline they throw that shit back to the prequels and we get Hayden Christensen and we kind of like get some more scenes from that. I am all about that shit. Make it good. I have no problem with that at all. Even if it's not a flashback, like maybe he has a dream. Like he saw what looked like Hayden this week where it was like, I assumed because he didn't know what the Vader suit looked like when he heard Darth Vader you know Anakin Skywalker's alive I think that's what he thought he was going to look like and that's like what he was haunted by it was
Starting point is 00:05:49 like a PTSD oh my god he's hallucinating him maybe he has a dream where it's like what could have been if Anakin didn't fall and it's like we see Anakin as a full you know master Jedi alongside Obi-Wan something cool that's almost like a Star Wars what-if through a dream. Yeah, and I was watching some of the old prequel that was during the flashback leading up to this, kind of the recap, I guess you would say. And Hayden Christensen does play that kind of cocky role. He knows he's Anakin.
Starting point is 00:06:20 He knows he is awesome with the Force, but he also has that dark side, the women and the children. I kind of like that side of him. Oh side of him We saw that side of him this week Holy shit His castle I wrote looks as awesome As ever I think this was like the first time we saw In live action him sitting at a chair
Starting point is 00:06:37 In his office and what not and he's Talking to Riva and That's in Rogue One too right He has his castle on Rogue One And they say he has that castle there to remind him of his greatest defeat that's like it it angers him just to even be there he's like this fucking sucks but it makes him more powerful with the dark side so he talks to Riva he says I know what you want like you want to be the Grand Inquisitor I don't give a fuck what you did to the Grand Inquisitor if you get Obi-Wan for me, I'll give you that spot.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And it was a common theme throughout the episode, watching the Inquisitors, like, fight for Vader's attention. I really liked that dynamic of them kind of backstabbing each other. I think it was like, is it the fifth brother with the third sister? Yeah, they were, like, going back and forth. She's like, oh, let me go tell Vader. It's like, he already knows. He was very pleased.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I like that dynamic between them. riva getting a ton of hate i know the actors made the videos this week we stand with her i don't know this is i swear i don't know if i'm bad at picking up like quote-unquote bad acting what consists of that there's not a moment in this series where i'm like that's bad acting maybe's on me. Maybe my taste is like to the point where I'm like a dope. I mean, there were moments where the chasing sequence, all of that, I acknowledge all that. I can't pick up on what people consider bad acting.
Starting point is 00:07:56 If they think Riva is like a bad actress. Cause I don't think she is. So I always say this and I'm, I'm like very honest about it. Like the room bad acting, right? Oh yeah, I can pick up on that. I can pick up on that.
Starting point is 00:08:10 But higher stakes, bad acting. I always say like, I have to ask the light camera barstool guys if this is bad acting, bad directing, even some stuff with CGI, people are better at picking that up than I am. That's just, I'm not like a film guy like that. I kind of, I'm just a big idiot. It goes, light saber fight, here we go. So I know there's a lot of people that have this thing towards the actress.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And I don't know how much it is the actress and the character, which again, coming back to Phantom Menace stuff or how it's written. It's like, can you really blame, say, an actress that has been in a couple of bad Star Wars and Marvel movies? There may be a curse that she has upon her. Is it her fault or is it the you know people that made those projects tbd so i really don't know again there's a lot of like anger about it people are pissed off i'll just tell you flat out the inquisitors in general they don't really do it
Starting point is 00:08:57 for me and i because i i think i had that i held them to a high standard just based on what you guys said with the cartoons these guys are a pretty badass bunch maybe it's that if you're a light if you have lightsabers but you're not like a Sith Lord or a Jedi I kind of like you have to be the basically the most badass people in the galaxy they're not really that so maybe that's part of the reason but they just they they don't do it for me as much as I was hoping they would I do appreciate though how, how, like, this Sith world is, like, Big Daddy Vader at the top. Obviously, above him is the Emperor. And then it's, like, dog-eat-dog.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It's kind of the way Portnoy, I think, likes Barstool to be run, where everyone's vying for his attention, and he wants us all backbiting each other for the content it will make, right? Correct, actually, yeah. God, I guess Vader's running the ship here. Are you thinking Vader? Huh? Do you think Dave is Darth Vader? I mean, like you said, it's kind of how's running the ship here. Are you talking Vader? Huh? Do you think Dave is Darth Vader? I mean, like you said, it's kind of how he runs the ship.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Okay, good. Clip it. Send it to him. We'll get him on the podcast to defend himself. Dave Portman, we basically confirmed from my mom's base the next week. Subscribe. It'll be on YouTube. Click it and subscribe to YouTube.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He doesn't kill the younglings, though. He's got the GoPres Go crowd that is, you know, that is the younglings. To be fair, I consider us inquisitors i think we are more closer on dave's side than a good good a fair amount of people at the company now yeah i would agree i'd say it's like the people that make a shit ton of money for the company and then there's like probably a few other people but i think clem and robbie i mean trivia partner and like his his love of Octagon Bob is. Vader's voice. I wanted to note James Earl Jones was credited in the actual credits, but it is an AI generated voice from his original trilogy.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Oh, I that's very interesting. I was actually thinking that because when we hear Vader, I was actually thinking I'm trying to think that it's hating christians and saying this stuff now because obviously it's a younger vader instead of an older vader and i was like vader does have like some like very heady things to say for someone that's still pretty young right yeah you know so the the fact that it but the fact that it was and obviously when anyone anything said with james earl jones voice it sounds fucking awesome and has this like depth to it it almost is like smelling like an old leather book or something like that i actually think it sounded better in this episode than it did in rogue one as well he did new lines for rogue one and there was just something about it where you could tell james earl jones it had been 40 years or whatever his voice
Starting point is 00:11:24 changed a little bit in that time what it sounded a lot more like the original trilogy he said like third sister at one point and like the way he said it reminded me of Return of the Jedi when he brings up Luke's sister oh yes sis you have a twin sister yeah apology accepted and even the stuff he says to i'm gonna just call him kenobi it makes him sound like less of a pussy but he's like the years haven't been kind to you or whatever i thought that was a cool thing that i again it's hard to imagine hayden christiansen 10 years after sith saying that which is kind of funny um i loved the dialogue between obi-wan and leia about the force where she's like what does the force feel like he's like it's like when you're in the dark and you turn a light on like what
Starting point is 00:12:10 does that feel like safe and later on in the episode in the complete darkness obi-wan for the first time turns on the light i was like oh wow it's like poetry rhymes obi-wan started sneaking around like he was on the death star i noted like some of his movements i was like oh my god it's exactly like he's on the death star in a new hope this planet's name was mapuzo it was a mining district that him and leia were kind of stranded on looking for the agent that kumail was going to set him up with and then they got there and no one was there and he had a perfect like frustrated almost new yorker dad moment where he's just like no one's coming leia we're stranded what's gonna happen like two
Starting point is 00:12:50 seconds later she's like i'll get us a ride and she gets him a ride and this alien i could have sworn was seth rogan the whole episode i'm like 99 that's got to be seth rogan it's not him it's zach braff really yeah it sounds like zach braff doing a seth rogan impression doing an alien 99% that's gotta be Seth Rogen. It's not him. It's Zach Braff. Really? Yeah. It sounds like Zach Braff doing a Seth Rogen impression, doing an alien impression. And he's like this weird little, what's the, he's like a burrowing animal.
Starting point is 00:13:15 What's the word I'm looking for? He's a gopher, right? A space gopher. Gopher, but like with an almost anteater face. He's got a weird kind of, yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:23 he's cool looking alien. Freck, I think was his name i also loved that as obi-wan is all flustered as this no one's there to greet him and you're just feeling you just got got by this fucking canal street fake jedi you just have leia a little 10 year old asking a million questions it's absolutely perfect again from a dad angle my kids will ask me non-stop questions and are we there yet for a one hour ride that they made to their grandparents house a thousand times.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And the only way you can get them to shut the fuck up is by giving them iPads. How no one in the galaxy far, far away has invented the iPad yet with all the technology. He gives her Lola back. He does give her Lola. That's his version of that. And again,
Starting point is 00:14:01 he's like, play with this. He's up it. Yeah. He's like, shut the fuck up here's your goddamn drone uh this is when he looks out into the distance and he sees Anakin he sees Hayden in the robes he just turns around for a moment they're like oh who was that whatever I didn't notice that at first by the way and I and I just go where the fuck did that Jedi go I was so confused I couldn't see his face I was so goddamn confused but i thought that was a
Starting point is 00:14:25 cool twist it was i i couldn't tell who it was at first and then the second time i watched it i paused it and looked real close to the screen i was like yeah it's hayden that he looks like old hayden so i thought that was cool i said uh oh this was my note i was like what did this note mean i said say say leia louder obi-wan what the fuck this is when he hitches a ride with freck the stormtroopers hop on and out of nowhere he just mentions that her name is leia they had this whole story that he beat into her head over and over remember this is our story we're farmers this is your name this is my name and he calls her leia the stormtroopers are like why'd you call her leia and he's like that was uh her mother's name sometimes i see her face and it just reminds me of her and then it turns into oh you think padme all right he gets he gets his way out of it
Starting point is 00:15:09 but he's connected with the force again i was kind of expecting a jedi mind trick in this moment obi-wan obi-wan is taking some fucking big time losses in my mind right now and like he's he's moving down my my power rankings granted he's been through a lot he's probably 10 years worth of just fucking tattooing brain a bunch of fucking but he's just making goddamn mistakes that was so rough to watch him do and granted like and you can't really blame the kid but going with luma instead of leia that's gonna confuse as an old man i'm gonna fuck up names i'm already fucking up names we just were on a podcast and the nick plumbers is met who's hitting home runs out of nowhere for us as minor leaguer kfc called him jake plumber who was the old fucking quarterback for the broncos
Starting point is 00:15:54 and the cardinals back in the day you're just gonna fuck up names to be honest yeah you're gonna fuck up quite one you did you said quite well no that is in my mom's basement canon his name is now quite gone you've already been over that uh but when as soon as obi-wan called her leia i want you to put it in now we have to do the sound bite the dave ha ha what an idiot what a fucking idiot and the only thing that saves him is that stormtroopers are the only thing that are bigger idiots than obi-wan in this thing and i can live that's the one thing that like when all things are said and done it's like is this realistic it's like oh yeah stormtroopers are the dumbest fucking things and i tell myself it's because they're a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy so they're basically just shit for brains at all times and i guess i didn't realize i was thinking that they
Starting point is 00:16:37 they were looking for a layer they weren't looking for that so i forgot about that at first because the last episode flea and the gang knew of Leia. Yes. And I loved, like you said, how dumb the Stormtroopers actually were. Like when he gives them the explanation, they're just like, oh, okay, carry on. Got a little emotional, Bob. There was some fucking tears welling up. It did. The driver, Freck, loved the Empire.
Starting point is 00:16:58 He was like he had an Empire bumper sticker. It was almost like whoever the political party you don't like is picture him as that like he was encapsulating that and they have a droid come in that inspects the whole place and before it could like see obi-wan's face he takes out the blaster uncivilized as it may be and he starts going ham on these stormtroopers hitting people he grabs freck as like a human shield i saw someone note not very jedi like obi-wan but like we said 10 years after order 66 he kind of throw the rule book out the window anything goes this is a hardcore match now and hardcore it was he shoots a stormtrooper off a cliff in this scene falls through a laser gate splits him in half like he was darth maul
Starting point is 00:17:41 for again a guy who hates blasters the rudiment and what did you say i say the rudimentary what was this thing it's uncivilized uncivilized yeah motherfucker can sure as shit sling one man holy cow obi-wan is a fucking like the best black he's better than solo in my mind like everything else obi-wan is just losing points by the minute his brain isn't sharp he's a fucking little bit of a coward he's a definite bitch uh the lightsaber skills aren't there yet the fucking blaster skills are goddamn money so tip of the tip of the force can influence it there's got to be some kind of canon story about that where it's like almost like a video game cheat like an aim bot like boom boom boom boom boom with the force yeah and i also tell myself when he's telling the stories to them about leia's mom
Starting point is 00:18:22 he's using the force to try to like trick them and get the emotions going yeah and Leia seems to be using the force to like just get things out of people in this series and I like that like the way she talks to people seems like she's like subtly using the force in the same way Anakin didn't realize he was subtly using the force to win pod races exactly yep that's a great call too I would have also liked it if Obi-Wan was like yeah her mom she was beautiful I hated a couple times her dad didn't know i'm sorry well i mean he does take a kind of like a swiper and admittance of guilt here when she's like i wish you were my dad he's like i kind of wish that too i could have been your daddy like hey whoa whoa maybe anakin was right about you obi-. Were you kind of slipping in on the Naboo?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Going swimming in the Naboo fucking waters. Jesus, Anakin. He also mentions he had a brother. Obi-Wan. Obi-Two. Oh, Bob, my notes. It says it right here. If they come out and say his brother is named Obi-Two, I'm done watching.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I swear to God. We talked about it jokingly. Like, oh, they better not fuck up the Obi-Wan name thing like they did in Solo. I swear to God, if there's an Obi-Wan Kenobi out there, I am going to fucking blow up the entire planet of Stew John. I thought this was huge breaking news. People had told me, apparently, there's, I think it's Master and Apprentice, it might be. They mentioned that in a canon book that he was taken away from this family early on and there was a brother there i like the idea of him having a brother because anakin probably like filled a void for him in his life where he was his brother
Starting point is 00:19:56 i don't love the idea of i don't want to see obi-wan's fucking jedi brother in some alternate universe like don't bring him in in that way anytime. I'm kind of interested to see what his brother's like. What do you think Obi-Wan's brother's like? Did they say if it's older or younger? He said a baby. I remember a baby. Okay, a baby. So I'm gonna assume younger. I'm gonna say he's
Starting point is 00:20:18 like a jock, though, and he's not, like, smart. Like, I feel like Obi-Wan's just, you'd really get, like, the whole family's smart. You usually have the jock, you have the nerd, obi-wan's the nerd he's the fucking the guy with the force and all that kind of stuff so i kind of just see this guy as some big old fucking jock what's even a good sport in star wars land like is what's what's the big sport out there uh there's that robot football that there's in the back background of attack of the clones there's robot football there's pod racing so he's a robot football star any athletic i don't think yeah we're going with
Starting point is 00:20:49 robot football we're gonna go with robot he's a robot football star he but he's like kind of still reliving the glory days he's selling you know starfighter insurance like he's not he isn't like a pro or anything he's not making a ton of credits as a football player, a robot football player, excuse me. I picture him as like Adam Scott and stepbrothers. He's that guy, brother. He's running the private, he's doing the whole Catalina wine mixer and everything. He crushes his very small corner of life.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah. Oh yeah. A very small corner of life. If you want to get yourself some tickets to robot football in the star wars galaxy i would go to game time now i don't know if they have these tickets you might have to like use a vpn to go to tatooine to get those tickets or something like that but they are the newest ticketing app on the market that makes it easier than ever to score last minute tickets on sports concerts shows and they guarantee the lowest price. Like we tell you every week,
Starting point is 00:21:45 this is a thing that we've known about, right? You wait until the last minute, get your tickets on secondary market, but game time just makes it easier. They filter everything through the right way. They guarantee the lowest price. I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:57 the Rangers unbelievable run right now. I would go to game time to get some tickets. They just beat Tampa Bay. As we record this, they're up one Oh, in the series. Blue shirt. Bob is one of my favorite people. We got to get blue shirt. They just beat Tampa Bay. As we record this, they're up one Oh, in the series. Blue shirt. Bob is one of my favorite people.
Starting point is 00:22:07 We got to get blue shirt, Bob to a game. I saw Glennie balls and chief and Tommy lay. We're at game seven of shoot. That was two series ago against the penguin six game six. Oh, it was game six. No,
Starting point is 00:22:18 it was game seven. Yeah. Clemmie, Clemmie Rangers. I thought it was the last series. Yeah. And the, the game time tickets are so incredible.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I say if you want to live that Stu Feiner life, but for that Clem budget, you can kind of do both. The way they do it, the Barstool exclusive ticketing app, it is absolutely incredible. How do they get the tickets, Bob? You go to the game time app. You go to the account tab, create a login, and then redeem the code MMB for My Mom's Basement.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You'll get $ 20 off your first purchase terms apply i would use this if you were in the area on paul mccartney at metlife stadium june 16th oh my god i cannot wait for that concert look i get to say there's paul mccartney now oh it's shiny because i put the uh i put the stuff on it the healing cream or whatever but now i got the beatles on my arm i like that i have a i say i have a band in both senses of the word it's a band you know and we don't we like we always ask for the hashtags or whatever sent to us i want to see everyone if you used a game time app and you used a promo code mmb tweet us what you're going to because i think we have the widest array of potential things out of all the podcasts you have have sports, you have concerts, you have shows, all these different things that I think
Starting point is 00:23:29 the basement is like the melting pot of entertainment. So I think I'm excited to see whatever uses gets their 20 bucks on. Download the app, use the code MMB, $20 off your first purchase. And speaking of stepbrothers, everyone knows this by now, I think. And if you don't, I'm about to break amazing news to you. Over the summer, Jeff D. Lowe and Glennie Balls have a house together on the Jersey Shore. And I said to Rhea recently, I was like, I picture them by the end of the summer fighting like stepbrothers. Like Glennie's going to try to bury Jeff a lot in the front yard on the beach or something.
Starting point is 00:24:02 That's just how I picture that going. So when you said that it sounded as if this this is the second year they've had the house i know that they there was a house last year right is that what they they they stayed at the high noon house last year for like carsville versus america winners i think but this they're like officially like going in as roommates on a house this summer oh my god that is That is the most amazing pairing. One of the most likable duos of all time, by the way. That's the most amazing pairing of personalities. And I feel like we're either going to get some stepbrothers
Starting point is 00:24:31 or like a legitimate war between the two people. Like remember when Glennie, I just thought of this the other day, I saw an old blog somehow popped up on the screen of when Glennie would just carry his computer with his hand like right on the screen. I think he still does it. He's a savage. And I guarantee Jeff guarantee jeff d low the minute there's any
Starting point is 00:24:47 dust in any of his seven computers or monitors he has that canned air and he has that thing clean as a whistle like they are opposites attract and the fact that the jersey shore makes it so fucking burning oh that's amazing djs every night i mean that's that there should be a new jersey shore season with them as the new cast and don't discount jeff d low like he's into like that like the clubbing music he has a fucking nice haircut i'm sure kb will be down there all the time him and kb love the music together and all that oh man and then oh papa club i'll be on the other i'll be like the next town over so there's like wildwood and wildwood press right i'll be in wildwood which i i believe or no
Starting point is 00:25:25 wildwood i believe is where the alcohol is like there's like the alcohol rules are a little more lax that's gonna be where everyone at barstool and i'll be in crest where it's like basically just family shit and it's gonna be two different worlds basically oh that's incredible bob you just made my day it's a great duo. We get an Imperial officer eventually coming in. Stormtroopers, they corner Obi-Wan. And then the Imperial officer turns on her stormtrooper, shoots all them in the back, and she's here to save Obi-Wan. She's like, sorry, we were late or you were late. The drop point was always going to happen.
Starting point is 00:25:59 This wasn't a lie. This wasn't a scam. And the Imperial officer is none other than pedro pascal's sister from game of thrones or now in star wars i love this chick she was a baddie in fucking game of thrones the the i don't know if she was the princess of dorne i think she she was just i guess she was uh what's his name's brother the viper's sister and they banged too so there was a whole bunch of shit my brain was in a pretzel trying to figure like this is worlds colliding here and i was and i think it was obviously
Starting point is 00:26:29 there was sand on the planet too so yeah i old man clem feebly his brain was starting to break but i like this actress so i was i was thrilled to have her in star wars for sure and her name is um tala which feels like the show yeah yeah that feels like is that like a legit star wars i feel like i've heard that in star wars before is that a star wars known um character i don't know i don't think so no looks like everything mentioned of a star wars known character and basically the next scene she takes obi-wan to this like little warehouse and then takes him into the back room of it and there's basically an underground railroad for jedi post order 66 and that's what she works on and obi-wan looks at the carvings
Starting point is 00:27:11 on the wall he starts reading it and he goes quinlan was here and i made a video on this it's a short on the youtube channel but quinlan if you're not aware quinlan voss who he's referring to is a character in the clone wars he's a character in a lot of legends comics the star wars republic series he is a character in current canon stories he is a jedi scoundrel type who's a spy for the jedi council and he got his start as just a random background character in the phantom menace on set i'm not even sure if he was supposed to be a Jedi there. But basically, when that movie came out, they knew people were so Star Wars crazy
Starting point is 00:27:50 that they had a backstory for every single background character there. His backstory for his action figure came with a lightsaber, was that the Jedi Council sent him down to spy on the proceedings of Tatooine or whatever. So they brought him into the Clone Wars cartoon. He always butted heads with Obi-Wan. In stories, he's turned to the dark side. He had a thing with Asajj Ventress. He always comes back to the light side.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Here, they said he still is smuggling younglings, and Obi-Wan almost has a look like, oh, fuck, my old adversary, he's still fighting, and I gave it up. Is he a good dude? Yeah, he's still fighting and i gave it up is he a good is he a good dude yeah he's a good dude he almost has almost like a jock attitude like i remember when he comes into the clone wars his first scene i think someone's like what do i smell or something and obi-wan's like probably quinlan voss he's like i can't believe i gotta deal with this motherfucker he comes down like
Starting point is 00:28:41 pats him on the shoulder he's like hey old buddy, old buddy, what's going on? People think O'Shea Jackson may be playing him in this show because he's cast already. We know he's a part of the cast announcement, and that would be really cool. How badass are we talking? It's Quinlan Vos on the ball scale, one to five balls. One to five is tough. He's pretty badass in the Clone Wars. See, I haven't read all the extended universe comics that he's a part of, so I'm sure i underrate him yeah don't do it don't do it i'm not gonna underrate him but listen no don't rate him at all don't rate him at all i don't want to get you i'm getting yelled at about
Starting point is 00:29:15 fucking apparently uh i i was wrong i thought the original trilogy and empire in itself was the masterpiece of the star wars universe turns out ph Phantom Menace was, according to my mentions right now. I was going to say, if Vader's five, Obi-Wan's four, he's a three. Okay. Because I was trying to compare him to another character. I'm thinking Marvel or Game of Thrones. And I was going to say the Hound, maybe, where it feels like he's pretty badass, not like the most dominant person in the world, and has a little bit of gray to him, right?
Starting point is 00:29:44 Not quite light, not quite dark, kind of in the middle. has like a little bit of gray to him. Right. Not quite light, not quite dark, kind of in the middle. Helps out younglings. Helps out. Exactly. So I'm going to call him the hound. Unless,
Starting point is 00:29:52 all right, that's going to be what we're going to have in the comments. Give me the Star Wars. There's give me Quinlan Voss's game of Thrones cop or tweeted at us. Yeah. And he's, he's the hound until proven otherwise. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:32:04 While he's seeing this little passageway for jedi trying to get leia out he senses something we get the sense go off in his brain and it's that anakin is on this planet anakin must have hated that obi-wan took him to a planet with sand on it right gets everywhere wait what is what is uh and now Darth Vader think of, Sand? It's coarse. It's rough. It's irritating. And it gets everywhere.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Everywhere. Everywhere. And especially when you get the suit on. Oh, my God. I can't imagine. It probably gets in all the crevices. I wonder if that's like part of the suit. Maybe suit gen one, like Iron Man Mark one, Sand could get into it. And then he told the emperor, like, listen, we got to go back to the reconstruction facility.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You got to make a suit that sent cannot get into. Is it sand proof? That was his first question. Then his pad may alive. We couldn't yet do it. Yeah. That's what the root no was really about, but he senses them.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And then we see Vader walk down this this street i guess this dirt road this village and he tries to bait obi-wan because he also senses obi-wan tries to bait him by just picking people up by the throat choking him he chokes a father the son runs out says please sir no sir anakin please well he doesn't know it's anakin i was just doing the voice the original kid at the jedi temple he throws that kid up against the wall and snaps his neck it's even in the closed captioning cracks neck he just starts killing people left and right to bait obi-wan out it eventually works he gets obi-wan to run away and then this is a great scene we saw a poster of like the darth vader lightsaber and Obi-Wan standing there.
Starting point is 00:33:46 The poster is from this scene. We see Vader's lightsaber ignite. It's like a fucking horror movie. It's so dark. You just see that one blade. Obi-Wan's saber ignites, but then he immediately, he's not prepared at all. He does the Dave Chappelle, like knock the water off. And he's like, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I loved, I loved the whole construction of this scene i like how like the noise kind of goes away you have the breathing which again anytime you have that vader breathing it just makes it dials it up you're like oh shit bad things are about to happen this is where the film begins right as as a wise man once said uh I like that he fucked with... It's kind of the running theme, unfortunately, for the Jedi. If you fuck with innocent people, the Jedi will reveal themselves sooner or later. The worst thing that could happen to a planet
Starting point is 00:34:34 is that they find out Jedi are there because then the Sith are going to come down and they're just going to ruin the lives of all the innocent civilians. Like, Jedi should be like... Are like a pox. You're like, get the fuck out of here, man. You're going to ruin our shit. So i love the way that that that all took place that is kind of how obi-wan treated
Starting point is 00:34:50 the last jedi he was like get the fuck out of here yeah your lightsaber he's like i'm trying to hide out in this cave that's a good point i actually just thought of if i was a jedi which by the way obi-wan explaining what the force feels like i'm now going to search for that and like i think he kind of gave us a roadmap of how to use the force so i'm going to the force feels like i'm now going to search for that and like i think he kind of gave us a roadmap of how to use the force so i'm going to try to and what i'm going to do is instead of cracking necks like darth vader i'm going to like do like the nice crack of the back just oh yeah like and spider-man when they uh one of the peters picks the other peter up yeah exactly like nothing feels better than like or if you go if you're going to the chiropractor and they crack your neck and it like makes it feel better that would
Starting point is 00:35:28 be like my jedi power as i just go around being like hey clem how's it going i'm visiting the office i'm saying hi to everyone and it's like up clem's gonna crack my back for me without even having to like lift me up and potentially paralyze me just cracking backs in a good way vader not so good but this is the v Vader we've been asking for we always want the jaws it's it's I think there was a YouTube video is three minutes and 47 seconds of every Vader seen this episode and obviously you know the Rogue One scene is the the gold standard I don't know if we'll even hit that in this show but this is the stuff that I am tuning into Kenobi for absolutely amazing I love the shot as well during this fight.
Starting point is 00:36:07 It's right after this. Obi-Wan runs away from him initially. Vader kind of starts chasing him through the dunes. And then we just see darkness. And the only lights you see are the lights on Vader's chest and his belt. And it was just like, oh, fuck. Like I said, a lot of horror vibes. Legit, they kind of treat Vader as scary as he's ever been treated,
Starting point is 00:36:26 even in that Rogue One scene. Vader also, since he was a child, this guy's got a flair for the dramatic. This guy just absolutely loves a dramatic fight scene. He loves a dramatic entrance to a building. The breathing, I feel like he holds back. I feel like he holds his breath just to hit it at the right moment. I'm going to say this right here. You know how they always say, like, LeBron James, if he played soccer,
Starting point is 00:36:49 he'd be the greatest soccer athlete of all time? If Anakin Skywalker was a professional hide-and-seeker, would have been the greatest hide-and-seeker of all time. He's so fucking good, and he has a fucking suit that breathes for him, and he somehow is able to sneak around, whether it's here, whether it's in Bespin. It's incredible incredible this guy just pops out of nowhere on us I wrote Return of the Jedi fight with Luke vibes in the darkness where it was kind of just like Luke was running away from him kind of and he was just chasing him like Obi-Wan is weak at this moment he's not prepared I think
Starting point is 00:37:20 Anakin in his mind for the past 10 years has been hunting obi-wan down expecting a rematch with the same energy that he got on mustafar he's like let's run that back motherfucker he's like a ufc fighter who got choked out and he's like are you fucking kidding me i know i could come back from that he finds obi-wan obi-wan's like i don't fight you fucking kidding me i'm running away from you obi-wan says what, what have you become? And Anakin or Vader, I guess I should call him Vader at this point. Anakin is long gone. Says, I am what you made me. That was maybe my favorite line of the episode because it's just like he's fucking telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And we saw in the beginning of the episode, fake arm, fake legs. He needs a thing to breathe. He got to have a thing spiked into his chest like you did this to him, Obi-Wan. And that's why he's so angry. And you know who's watching as a forest ghost going you're goddamn right, Darth Qui-Gon. He's like, I told you he's gonna bring balance to the force. This is the guy I
Starting point is 00:38:14 helped make because I knew you would fall as a mentor, Obi-Wan. So shout out to Darth Qui-Gon, seeing his plan finally come to fruition. It was absolutely beautiful. We didn't get him this episode but it seems like we're't get him this episode but it seems like we're getting closer to him right i mean obi-wan just keeps fucking calling the phone number and no one's answering sooner or later he has to answer it's fucking checkoffs quite
Starting point is 00:38:34 quite gone i do like that he talks to him almost like you know like when people pray to like a relative or whatever when they don't pray to god or whatever that's kind of how obi-wan like it seems like he's like praying to him he's like instead of saying like oh god please let me get through this he's like oh master please let me get through this and again this whole time we're i'm so mad at ourselves for not pointing out that when lei gets taken we should you should be asking for the other role that was played not quaggan but fucking the taken i don't remember the guys oh uh fuck what was his name it's gonna drive me crazy because he's an all-time action movie character yeah uh brian mills brian mills so he's crying to the wrong liam neeson basically when leia gets
Starting point is 00:39:20 now that when vader comes the multiverse to open up. The multi-Niessen. Like which Liam Neeson should he use at any given point? I'm trying to think of some other Liam Neeson roles that would have been a better. The lion from Narnia. Just have someone fucking savaged by that guy. Yeah, that's a good one. Does the lion from Narnia have any kind of superpowers? Because I feel like you need some superpowers.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I don't know. I was never into Narnia really. I saw the first movie and I wasn't into that. I did like Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe as a book. Again, that was what got me into Turkish Delights. We talked about this on the podcast. Turkish Delights was all because of Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But yeah, Narnia kind of just fell flat. That was something that needed to hit on the sequel. And they just fucking... Star Wars, I feel like A New Hope new hope huge hit if empire flops we may never have a third movie let alone we would have a third movie they made so much money but i don't think we have a fucking a prequel a sequel trilogy and then a disney plus series clem are you into hand ball did you watch handball during the summer olympics bob fox handball is the biggest like the biggest highlight of every summer olympics is once handball comes on the screen was like oh that's right handball's on and everyone loves it everyone's
Starting point is 00:40:34 convinced they could become like a pro handball player um and i believe i think it's like lefty handball players are like you know like lefty and baseball is always like important to have they say like if you can be a good lefty handball player, you can become like a God in the sport. Cause it's really hard. I guess the way to have that kind of strength or, you know, with the hand and the angles you play and my shout out my boy, Bobby, he is obsessed with it every single morning. He has the handball going on, like the, you know, computer monitors at work.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And it's, it always is like i'm always like let's keep this momentum going handball is it's such a fun sport i loved it in gym did you play in gym we used to play in gym and then it would be like i don't think i did it would be like it would be like a regular goal but then if you also got in like the basket it was like three points if you play like the basketball there um so it's just like a fun easy watch i love handball man yeah and our newest sponsor the american handball company wants everyone to know that handball is a hard-hitting high scoring sport that combines the best parts of basketball hockey and soccer that sounds amazing right it's super popular
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Starting point is 00:41:56 I've always wanted to be part of a hashtag grow the game, but I like all the things I do are already been grown. All right. So handball is where I'm growing. I mean, there's dozens of teams, Clem. New York, Detroit, Miami, Toronto. We got to root for the New York team.
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Starting point is 00:42:34 The only way I will accept Obi-Wan Kenobi as an actual character is if he's a professional handball player. That's the only way I'll accept it. Yeah. So we get actual lightsabers clashing at this moment um obi-wan is clearly way weaker than vader at this moment and it's interesting people were like are you kidding me he says in a new hope you know when i left you i was but the learner now i am the master it doesn't seem like he was the learner in this fight guys i think it's very very clear they're setting up for a rematch in this series where obi-wan is going to outsmart Vader and get away from him.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I would stake my friggin' reputation on it. Vader force pushes him away. Obi-Wan cuts this thing. Smoke goes flying. Vader walks through the smoke like he's fucking Jason or Michael Myers or something. And then he spots, I guess, like a fucking flammable crystal box. He throws them down. And like I said, ECW style, takes his lightsaber, lights him on fire, and then drags Obi-Wan through the fire.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And the way he does it, people pointed out, he like locks Obi-Wan's one arm. So he's like Anakin was, where Obi-Wan is just flailing one arm and one arm was locked in the fire. So he's burning him alive. People were like, Oh my God, like Obi-Wan wears robes, the entirety of a new hope, you know, under there, does he have like horrible burns on his arm or whatever? And eventually he gets away. Obi-Wan gets the, the droid comes in, rescues him. Vader says to the stormtroopers go get him my final note was vader could have gotten obi-wan i would have liked maybe another line of like vader just saying like let him get away like we'll get him soon because i think that was what they
Starting point is 00:44:16 were going for i think vader was one almost like disappointed that obi-wan was not what he expected and two like we fucking got this guy are you kidding me this is the obi-wan was not what he expected and two like we fucking got this guy are you kidding me this is the obi-wan like yeah we'll get him on the next planet or whatever i'm happy you said that because i was i was thinking the same thing i didn't know if other people agree because i've seen pretty pretty good um reaction to the episode but i i left something i was left yearning and again this is because vader does catch a lot of l's during the original trilogy where everyone keeps getting away from him just like it is kind of a trope yeah yeah so to see it happen where it's like he has such a he's outnumbered obi-wan is fucking petrified which again i i understand
Starting point is 00:44:58 because i as we said earlier he's looking for some fucking his buddy in a robe who might have a couple of scars from being burned like 10 years ago and he finds this fucking machine that is fucking talking in james earl's voice at him yeah there's a new red light where did that voice come from yeah right and he like the red lightsaber is new because that he's never seen that so that's the first time he's fought it so that is a fucking he's probably he's probably not even sure he's probably like where how the fuck does this guy know all about me and it's like no that's anakin dude that's fucking that's that's the guy you burned up and he had a fucking you get spikes in his chest because of it um yeah it was it was crazy and i loved it's it's kind of fucked up to say but i loved how he wanted to just burn him
Starting point is 00:45:39 alive yeah rank him on the cold and i mean dubby boys might be being even too nice this is like some new jack shit this is some taboo mick foley terry fun you're like i think this is real i was horrified as i was watching it and i always like going back to the wrestling analogy i like when if you use someone else's finishing move on them or there's some sort of a poetry in terms of the way that you're getting your revenge i like how he wanted to like make obi-wan feel the pain he felt uh so i i dug i dug everything about that it was kind of weird there's just like flammable crystals whatever i guess you have to just write it to make have it make sense right you don't want to um go too far but man it's and i also now realize why Obi-Wan aged like he did.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Oh, yeah. Because he's probably in a cave in Tatooine being like, that fucking guy, James Earl Jones, he has a black mask. He has a cape. The cape is fucking... Emperor Balp. Mwah. A plus design job on that cape.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Because the cape does make Vader a little extra intimidating when it's all said and done. Oh, totally. Vader without a cape. Like, you ever see an action figure ofader without the cape it's like oh he looks weird you put the cape on you're like oh my god i'm gonna shit my pants vader without a cape on you might as well just like have his like fly open it's just like it's just not the same so i i loved everything about that i love the shot of him just staring through the flames too there's a shot in the most recent halloween movie halloween kills where they like light michael myers on fire in the last movie and then the fire department comes at the beginning of the the sequel and they show up
Starting point is 00:47:16 and he's just standing in the fire and he's killing all of them as they're trying to rescue him and it reminded me of that and my girlfriend texted me the same thing she's on a trip she watched it by herself she was like that reminded me of halloween kills it wasn't the most well received movie it's a fun like crazy slasher movie i i thought it's you know watchable and around halloween time but they might have taken inspiration from it because it was a badass shot to open the movie so i don't know and then at the end of the episode we see leia captured yet again this time by riva i mean leia just can't catch a break walking into kidnappers left and right i'm just happy there
Starting point is 00:47:51 wasn't like a chase scene i sure hope there's not a chase scene if she escapes all right star wars uh feloni if you're listening if there's a chase scene edit it out and and reshoot just do it trust me we do not want to see a third chase no we don't want to see a chase scene edit it out and and reshoot just do it trust me we do not want to see a third chase no we don't want to see a chase scene i have seen some speculation and i like this theory that o'shea jackson will play quinlan voss he comes in he brings leia back to alderaan obi-wan hands her off and then to get vader off the tail of her fights Vader. Obi-Wan fighting Vader is almost a distraction. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I can see Leia back. Yeah. I did see some people thinking, do we think Grogu went through this underground Jedi railroad as well? Oh, I didn't even think about that, but like possibly I also have seen some speculation. How does Leia get away from Reva? Does Leia like remind Reva of herself as a young girl on the Jedi temple before she went dark?
Starting point is 00:48:51 Riva realizes, oh, fuck, I'm on the wrong side here. Yeah, I can see that ending. That's a Star Wars-y type trope. Yeah, Riva is so fucking like on the evil side. It does feel like she's going to have to come to the other side just based on everything we've seen from star wars oh the the only other note that i had from earlier that i don't know this is just my dumb brain the way it works i love that low droid he didn't say a goddamn word i did like that droid i liked him and i like he i said he was like the mountain which i don't know why i'm in game of thrones mode right now but he's definitely not as strong
Starting point is 00:49:21 as intended but just like this big hulking thing that doesn't say anything. I'm talking zombie mountain. Like I just – I don't know. The Stormtroopers tried to like interrogate him. And they're like, he doesn't understand you. But like there's something in you that are like, I think he understands. I think he understands. It's almost like a dog where you're like, oh, you understand me, right?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Like you just want to believe. There's a movie too where he's like, oh, he doesn't understand what you're saying. He like go like go fuck yourself and he's like oh he can understand what i'm saying for that movie it is anyone who thinks they may know the movie it's it's not yeah drop it in the comments and put something on twitter make sure you like the video as well we've been doing stranger thing recaps on the channel so if you you watch stranger things and you're listening to this on the podcast feed, go over to our YouTube channel. We're doing just 20 minute quick headers on every one, 15, 20 minutes on every episode.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's quick. It's the things that we would have tweeted while we were watching the episode. And I think they're fun. So, and I think if you are a stranger things fan and you're like skeptical about this season, don't be,
Starting point is 00:50:20 this is a very good season. Yeah. Get into it. You probably like, that's a good thing is that Kenobi is once a week. So once you're done with that, you can just hop into Stranger Things. It's at the point where now I'm like to my wife, I'm like, savor the flavor, honey.
Starting point is 00:50:32 We have only three episodes left now at this point. No, now we're down to two. I'm like, let's not burn through because we're gone until, you know, Fourth of July weekend. So everyone take it easy. And again, if you're listening to some podcast feed, it's a YouTube exclusive. All right.
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