My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 219 - 'STRANGER THINGS 4' REVIEW WITH CLEM AND KFC!

Episode Date: July 15, 2022

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Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by 3Chi and Barstool Sports. It is Robbie Fox, my co-host Clem, and you see we're in a new studio. If you're watching on YouTube, it's the KFC Radio Studio. Haven't been in here for a while. The upside down. Yeah. a new studio if you're watching on YouTube. It's the KFC Radio Studio. Haven't been in here for a while. We have done

Stranger Things pods from this studio for My Mama's Basement. We did it for Stranger Things 3 for sure. With you, yeah. We've teamed up a few times. We did some Stranger Things. We did the original Stranger Things. Remember that? The old office? Oh yeah, with Trent. We did like a four or five

hour thing, right? Yeah, it was long. We had to release it in like three or four sections because we got crammed into that little studio that's been described as the inside of a lit cigarette. That's a good way to put it. And a white person's trap house. Yep. And that was for season one when Stranger Things was the phenomenon that it has become. It was new and it was like, holy shit. And they were literally kids.

And we just did like four hours on it. I think it was my first time on KFC radio. Probably. Yeah. I think I remember being like what you just said. That's why I kind of laughed in my head. You were like, we'll just do like 30 or 40 minutes. I remember being like, we'll just do like a normal podcast.

We were on episode like two and a half. Yeah. Like three hours. Oh, I forgot about that. We made like notes for every episode and like went through it. Like one page in. And we were like an hour in. Oh, I forgot about that. We made like notes for every episode and like went through it. We were like one page in and we were like an hour in. I was like, oh boy. I still think about a joke that Fights made during that,

during random television shows now when Eleven shows up. I think it was like season two we went into and did that as well. And he was like, it was like the Kanye, step up in this bitch like. Yes. And now whenever that happens in the shows, I think of that song. Well, yes. I mean, she's still having those moments. She still has those moments, yeah, where she just shows up.

So spoilers for Stranger Things Season 4. If you didn't watch Stranger Things Season 4, I feel like, yeah, this is going to be, we're going to talk about everything. We're going to go kind of broad strokes throughout it. We've done quick hitters on every episode. We did just like 15 minutes. We called it what we would have tweeted. Like basically if this was live, we took notes on.

Yeah. What did you think of Season 4 as a whole? Because I think we were both like over the we called it what we would have tweeted like basically if this was live we took notes on yeah yeah what did you think of season four as a whole because i think we were both like over the moon about it yeah i thought okay well here what i first was uh i was very high and then i got very low for a quick second i thought this was the final season and so did we yeah why did we all think that and we're wrong was there ever like i could have sworn maybe it's some mandela effect shit i could have sworn they were like the final chapter agreed shit like that so i was like this is it and i even thought it was it like a couple like as we started to watch so when i found out there was an episode once i learned that there was a second half i really thought because that's

how they end them you know a lot of times there's two halves yeah final season and then when i found out it wasn't i was a little bit down because i was like oh this is just like another bad guy who's not like the bad guy uh but then quickly came back up just because i thought it was awesome i just thought the things that they did were great, and I thought it obviously, we know how it ends, where we finally see the mind, where we're gonna do the mind flayer battle. But I went into it being like, this is it, and when you go into it with that mentality, and then you don't

get it, it's a little bit of a letdown. They must have done something with marketing that we all thought that. John thought that. A lot of people thought it was the final season, and it obviously wasn't. Even the run times, right? That was like one thing where you're like, every episode's an hour and a half, and the finale's two and a half hours. Also, just do not get the idea behind that two-hour, 20-minute episode when there clearly were break points. Yeah, true.

Where it's like, that should have just been the end of an episode. If for no other reason than just like rewinding and trying to find spots. And also having like, if they would have put it out as like, hey, there's four episodes in part two or something, it would have felt like, oh, cool. We have like a big chunk. A two episode. I don't care about minutes and runtime. You tell me there's two episodes to a half a season. I'm going to be bothered.

Yeah. So those are logistical things. I thought I'll quickly just say the things I'm a little critical of so we can get back to the fun stuff because I know this is always more about the good side of things I feel like we we did the Steve and uh and uh Dustin thing like again huh yeah yeah like he got stuck as a babysitter again but like those two the first time it was the awkward couple because he's the cool guy and he was a little bit of like a villain in a way at one in the very beginning definitely and then Dustin was the goofy guy and then they gelled together so I'm sure they said let's just do it again.

And they even make jokes where Steve was kind of like this guy again, you know. Yeah. But I was like, okay, we're doing that. And I feel like this is like the third time we've done

Elle lost her powers and needs to get them back to fight the big fight. And that always leads to the moment we just described where it's like, bitch, what? I'm here. When she shows up in the final episode of this one, that was a described where it's like, bitch, what? I'm here.

When she shows up in the final episode of this one, that was a moment. I think they just like doing that because it's like, we're fucked. They do a very good job of like, we're going to die. We have no shot. And the viewer, you know you're okay, but you're like, how are they going to do this?

And then it's like, boom, door kicks open. And I feel like every season they have a little moment of like, is someone in the main crew going to die this time? And again, that doesn't happen. That was my other thing. I thought that they should have slaughtered one of those kids. Yeah. I mean, maybe Max.

Who knows, right? We're left with a little bit of a click. I thought for a second when she got her ball. I was like, oh, I thought she was gone. They're going to do it. And then the last thing, I hated that jock. I think he could have. Jason?

I don't think there was any reason for him. He wasn't great. I thought the way that him and his little goons, his henchmen, disturbed the final plan was good in terms of being like, oh, are you fucking kidding me? We were so close. But I also was just like, eh, we don't know. I thought one of the scariest scenes of the season

was when they were all out on the lake at night and Vecna was pulling them underwater through the portal. We were talking about that on our quick hitters where we were like, being in a lake at night and Vecna was like pulling them underwater through the portal. We were talking about that on our quick hitters where we were like being in a lake at night is just like terrifying as itself. If I can't see the bottom or know that I'm in like a man-made thing, I'm kind of out on that. I'm out.

Especially at night. A lake too. Oceans, you got movement and shit. A lake is just like there's a monster under there. I think Jason Voorhees right away. I'm like, oh god. And there's always woods near the lake. So then you're dealing with the woods and the lake. You can't just get out and get to the main road or whatever. You're isolated.

You're fucked. That was a satisfying death. He gets ripped in half. And I was like, yes, fuck. Fuck that guy. As Lucas is just pouring tears. I said, it was the most incredible crying since No Sean Marino. I've never seen a man cry so good in my entire life yeah yeah yeah so those were uh a couple a couple like uh

moments of criticism but the rest i thought were like uh what did you think about eddie dying because like i think that's the thing where people like bob dies the guy who loves the slurpees i think alexi dies even that dude benny's burgers like in like the first episode who's like they killed good people In the show all the time I think that's what They give you Like a

Hey we're a serious show That's not afraid to kill people But we don't give you We're not gonna kill the main people Yeah And that's a good way Of doing it Where it's like

They very quickly Built up a very cool character That people liked Or connected with Or whatever And then That will be your I can't believe it moment

yeah we're like he went from almost banging the ted cheerleader to dying yeah six episodes man that's just brutal his finale with master of puppets though pretty fucking sick that that was like kind of solidified the moment although even in my head i was thinking i was like there's probably a much more practical way to make noise yeah plug everything in. You just play the music and run away. The outlets apparently work in the Upside Down as well. Yeah, oh, I love that.

Yeah, little things that are just like, whatever. You can play a concert in the Upside Down. Yeah, you can play a concert. But that was like, that was very cool. Like, he's got the countdown. He's fucking ripping. Before we get any further into this podcast, let me tell everyone about our presenting sponsor, 3Chi.

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like when shows are too pussy to kill people you know yeah i think that's why game of thrones shined it was like we'll we'll make this the main character and we'll fucking kill him right do you feel like they almost ruined it i saw an article saying that game of thrones did ruin it by bringing john snow back and people just being like oh oh yeah that was a little bit of a cheat code yeah but that was also that's in the book, man. That's how that goes. True. If somebody wrote that, that's how.

If the TV writers came up with that, I'd be like, this is some bullshit. Also, George R.R. Martin pisses me off so much. I know he pisses everybody off, but the quote this week where he's like, don't worry, my final book is going to be much different than the show. It's like, just put it out, dude. Just stop talking about it. And also, then you're a dickhead because you told everyone the first. It's like, just put it out, dude. Stop talking about it. And also, then you're a dickhead because you told everyone the first time around that you, like, co-signed.

Exactly, yeah. He said he was, like, overseeing everything, right? And kind of gave them some pointers. He probably did and then was like, never mind. Oh, people hate it? That shit does suck. It's a good book, dude. You told them everything was good.

Poor Kit Harington. He just, he tried to go do other stuff and didn't. Now he's back. Anyway, I'm sure he pitched. Because they said HBO heard his pitch and liked it. So I'm sure him and his people showed up like, how about this? Please. I wonder when he thought of that, too.

When the finale came out and everyone hated it, was it immediate where he's like, fuck, let's go back? I bet you it was when he did a couple movies. And I think they were probably like oh so you're only like five five huh or whatever they were like we'll throw you in the Eternals for five minutes

yeah right and then when that didn't work it was probably like I'm Jon Snow he has good puppy dog eyes too like please George

please can you let this I'm actually surprised he didn't find a little landing spot for himself is he still with Ygritte yeah I think they're married I think they just had a baby and everything

nowadays I think gone are the days of being typecast. I think if you're good, you break out. Yeah, I think you're right. Whether it started with McConaughey and Jim Halpert did it with Jack Ryan. Tom Hardy, I think, is in so many different roles, too. His Peaky Blonders role is way different than Bane. If you're funny, you can be serious. You can do it all as long as you're good.

So nowadays, I think back in the day, it was for sure. If a movie star did a as long as you're good. So nowadays, I think back in the day, it was for sure. If a movie star did a TV show, you were trash. And if you did rom-coms and funny things... I just read an article about Tron. The new one or the old one? The old one. It wasn't even called Tron back then, was it? It was something else. Jeff Bridges did a movie that

was eventually Tron used everything for it. I was never into that franchise. It was the first, it predated Tron. It was all about being inside a video game. And someone said, why would you risk your career as an actor with the reputation you built up by doing this silly sci-fi thing? And he was like, because this shit slaps.

And they said it was the precursor for The Matrix and Ready Player One. The whole idea of being inside of a game. Which is the precursor to this in a weird way. Right, right, yeah, yeah. Like, there's Matrix-y elements in the finale, especially. Totally, yeah. I saw it. I was watching TV on break, and they kept showing the commercial over and over for,

I guess, Dustin's in a new movie or something like that. Yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, is he going to make it? Like, I don't know if that actor's going to make it? I don't know if that actor is going to make it. I hope he makes it. Millie Bobby Brown, she's making it. She's making it, 100%. Sadie Sink, she's making it.

My take, I don't know if this is Eleven or Millie. I think it's terrible acting. Really? I think it's maybe because she's supposed to be Eleven. Because she's acting socially awkward. Yeah, like a child-like still. But when she's just like, don't worry, I've got it. I don't know.

It probably is more the character than anything. There's not as much required out of her in the scenes where she's not screaming. I think a lot of her acting is nonverbal. Yeah. Being who she is and her look as opposed to her soliloquies, if she will. But it's just like, I love you. I guess it is supposed to be more about that's how 11 acts. i think also too i think if you watched them maybe if you binged them or you remembered everything you would the 11 character would make more sense i forgot i

thought papa died i thought papa died three different times papa died like in multiple seasons yeah i thought he died in the first season and if he didn't the second season i thought murray was dead i thought we've we've so every time these guys were on the scene, I'm like, when the fuck did these guys – all these guys. Dr. Owens. Dr. Owens, yeah. I have an idea when I run for president that one of my presidential platforms is going to be after every episode of every show, there's a recap that has all the necessary things for this episode. And after every,

beginning every season, I need a full ass fucking recap. So they gave one, I skipped over it by accident, and I went in legitimately blind. And especially Stranger Things, where I'm actually thinking this next season's gonna pick up right there. Yeah, two days later, right? Stranger Things tends to pick up with like,

oh, summer's gone by, and everyone's at camp or whatever. Mostly because the kids were getting older, which in this season especially, you look at Will and you're like, you're a grown man with a child's haircut. They're going to have kids. They got to film immediately. No, I think they said they're jumping ahead.

I think I read somewhere that the Duffer brothers said they have to do a jump head because I think they realized puberty is here. I know. How do you, yeah, because I think it's like It's like the war has gone on for a year or whatever I think I think they just realized they cannot fight puberty They cannot fight. It's the one monster that they can't fight And when did and when did they wrap if they wrapped in 2020 like one? I don't know how Colbert fucked this up. I think probably before COVID,

I thought. And then like the VFX took so long. They started filming with the pandemic. Like Lucas is fucking, yeah, Lucas is an adult. He's like a five-star recruit. Yeah.

He's like at the combine tomorrow. Also, I mean, that report or rumor that Millie Bobby Brown wanted to play Leia as a, in the Star Wars thing. So if something like that were to happen and one of these guys gets a dream role, they're going to be like, well, we've got to put that on hold. It's almost like Euphoria.

Have you heard that? They can't reshoot Euphoria because Zendaya is just so much on her schedule. Yeah, she's like a dude in Spider-Man. I'm going to call it now. Put Zendaya down for the next billionaire. Ooh, that's a good call. She's a Hollywood billionaire. She's going to have her own makeup. She'm going to call it now. Put Zendaya down for the next billionaire. Ooh, that's a good call. She's the next Hollywood billionaire. She'll have her own.

She's going to have her own makeup. She's going to have everything. All that shit done. Although, do you think Sydney Sweeney is going to beat her there based on she has all of the lines already? What do you mean she already has all of the lines? I think she's got skincare and she's got the shit in Sephora now. That might be true, but I feel like Zendaya could come out with like Z. Yeah.

Like Z by Zendaya. I want to buy it already. Shout out Tom Holland, too. I still can't believe he won. What a couple. MJ and Peter Parker. That warms my nerd heart, them being together. I always love that when the...

The Mets shirt is amazing. Oh, but you know what I noticed about the Mets shirt and the scene in the movie? And I pointed this out to Clem. Is it worded wrong? Peter Parker's thumbs are CGI. Next up, he's holding the phone.

He's holding the phone and his thumbs are clearly like, they look like, you remember those old dumb movies like Thumb Wars? They made like a Star Wars out of thumbs?

It is the weirdest looking thing. See if you could find the shirt because I noticed it and now if I watch like Spider-Man No Way Home, I can't re-watch that scene the same way. Like, oh, animated thumbs.

Yep, it fucks you up. I love, too, how Tom Holland is in that. It's always fun when the couples end up becoming, they date off-screen, just like Nancy and Jonathan. They date in real life. Look at those thumbs. Yeah, Nancy and Jonathan's still together, which they're scenes together, I was like.

That's a good question. Oh, yeah, definitely. That's a good question. Oh yeah, definitely. She's very pretty, she's hot, but she's got like a childlike, she looks like young too, like a baby face.

Kinda. So I'm always kinda like, eh, this is weird. I wrote every blog. the thumbs are huge. And in the movie, they look weird.

They don't look like, they actually look better on the shirt, because I feel like they're printing like. That's kinda weird. Yeah. Or I guess those are his or her thumbs. She's holding her phone. Right.

Talking to him on FaceTime. Right. Okay, so then where's his thumb? I guess his thumbs aren't in. These are the thumbs I'm thinking of, though. Oh, okay. In the movie, those are so CG, it's insane. That's like American Sniper when they had the fake baby. The baby, yeah. A show kind of that reminded me of some elements of American Sniper. Are had the fake baby. The baby, yeah. A show kind of that reminded me

of some elements of American Sniper. Are you on the terminal list yet? I started it, but the very first scene is like 18 straight minutes of like... Yeah, it is.

And I was like, it was late at night and I was like, I can't, I want to get to the plot. Just a side note off the Stranger Things thing. If you just finished

Stranger Things and you need a new show, Terminal List, Amazon Prime. I would highly recommend it. I got one episode left. We're going to plug real quick. It's still the most underrated show. I'm on season

three now for all mankind if you're into space. Oh, on Apple, right? I see commercials for that and I always think like, is that good? It is so awesome and it is so jam-packed with plot and they almost rip it. Plot! They'll just be like, and then this person's kid died.

And then this person, they'll also be like, three years later. They just keep it moving. I'm going to have to check it out. They're just like, okay, we're on Mars now. Like, boom. They're doing crazy shit. But if you're into space, if you're into space and NASA and all that. And it's also, I remember being so pumped for The Man in the High Castle.

I love history reimagined. And I thought The Man in the High Castle. I love history reimagined. And I thought The Man in the High Castle absolutely sucked. And so this scratches that itch where it's a different world. It's if Russia made it to the moon first. If Russia made it to the moon first and what the implications would be. And then every season they do these little montages about where the world's at. And so they'll be like, number number one overall pick uh michael jordan instead of going to bowls he goes like the trailblazers have selected michael jordan and

different presidents win um they're like i like shit like that yeah yeah it's it's like uh i think ted kennedy at one point was president or something like that uh different people get assassinated it's very cool watchman did a couple things things like that. Yeah. All right. I got to cut the podcast off again to tell everyone about hello fresh. One of our favorite advertisers here at my mom's basement. Hello fresh delivers fresh quality produce from the farm to your door in less than a week. So you can savor summer flavors right from home.

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bashes that chick's face in with a roller just amazing cunt we can say cunt on this she's a cunt she's been announced next tuesday i i couldn't tell i said i think they intended that to be a moment of like ew l but i. But I think the whole audience was like, fuck, yeah. Yeah, she deserved it. Go back and kill her. Dead dad like that? Yo.

But she got mashed in. She got world star. When the blood, like, she was dripping down. The blood starts going. Yeah, that's one of the few things on the internet I really can't watch anymore

are people, like, defenseless getting fucked. Yeah. And a roller skate to the fudge. I was like, and then the dialogue about it, too. Then the next episode to begin. And they're like, our guy was like, yeah, dude, that's why they make him out of rubber. So you could smash someone's face.

He was a great addition. We thought, yeah, I loved him. But that that bitch, what was her name? Angela. Angela, I believe. Just a true blue mean girl villain type smash. They built her up so well to be a villain in like two episodes too. It was making fun of the diorama.

Eleven tries to use her powers in front of everybody, which is like a secondhand embarrassing moment. Your dad's dead? The dad was like, come on. I really thought we were building towards a – there was multiple times where I was like, she's going to get her powers. She's going to show her.

Yeah. And especially that moment where she's kind of like, what are you going to do about it? Is she fine? I'm hoping that somehow the crack from the earthquake kills her ass in Los Angeles. I hope it didn't kill her because I want to see her death. I want to see her death in season five. That's the number one wish on the wish list. Slow and hateful.

Yes. I wish Vecna cracked her up. There is nothing that can happen to her that I would not be happy about in terms of horrendous Vecna murder. Send her to Russia and let her get you. We thought the Russia stuff was meh. I thought what they should have done in my mind, they had too many

plots going. Like they had the Arizona crew. It started in Cali, went to Arizona, whatever. West Coast. Russia and then the home crew split between Upside Down and Real World. And then that's why I thought the jock. I was like, we're already doing four or five things. And then layers with Paul Reiser's character and Papa.

I thought you either needed to... I guess the problem is if Hopper was back home for all this like he would have to be intertwined in all of this yeah make it hard so having him have his own thing but a lot of times i was like this is like its own fucking show yeah trying to get through a russian prison but it's and it's we know it's all going to come together but like it didn't really for this for this series i for this season mechnana and Hopper never really, you know? Yeah. So that...

They were just saving Hopper his reunion moment for the finale, almost, it felt like, in a way. They could have... The Demogorgon fight was cool. That was a cool way to do the... Yeah, it felt like Gladiator. Did you get Gladiator vibes from that scene? Yeah, win the crowd, win your...

It was the only Russia part where I was really like, oh, this is awesome now. Yeah, agreed. I thought, wouldn't this be cooler? Because I thought that they had that heartwarming, seemingly death with Hopper. And then they undid it in the fucking post-credits. In the trailer, too. I hated the trailer.

They didn't give you any, you know. If Russia didn't happen, and then Hopper comes back for the true final season with Russia, and they could speedily get him home, it would have been like, oh my god, Hopper comes back for the true final season with Russia, and they could speedily get him home. That's the idea. It would have been like, oh my God, Hopper's still alive. Because it would have just chopped out all the minutes that I thought were kind of wasted in Russia. Yeah, you didn't need them.

And we would have mourned Hopper, and that moment would have had its moment. And then it would be this crazy, like, holy shit, Hopper's back to fight the final fight because he's been in Russia this whole time. And we could have just quickly, he got home by, you know, movie magic. What did he blow his feet up for? His feet were all fucked up.

Did he get the shackle off? Yeah, he, like, hit it so then that would happen. So he could break his foot and get the shackle off? Yeah. He killed, like, a dozen Russian guards, and they're like, all right, cool, we're just going to throw you to the Demogorgon. It's like, you get a fucking bullet in your head if you do that. It was cool seeing that they were experimenting on some Demogorgons, I guess.

That was like, oh, interesting. But even that. So I'm anticipating when we do the final battle and it's the Mind Flayer and it's the thing. Where does Russia even come into this shit? I don't know. Are they done with Russia? Are Enzo and what was it, Yuri? Are they here now?

They never really said what happens with them. Obviously, they bring them back, but where are they? I do like the conspiracy theory guy. Who's that? Murray. Murray. Yeah, he's good. I like him.

The rest of the guys I can get rid of. I don't need them. Joyce was fine. Even the many-faced guy? He's handsome. I don't need him. He's handsome. He didn't provide anything.

He didn't provide anything. I just like him in Thrones. I don't need the other Russian guy, the two-timer who then like. Yeah. Oh, Yuri was the worst. I could not stand Yuri. Totally stupid. Give me Joyce.

You need Winona and you need Murray. But like I thought eventually we were going to have like almost like a human fight. Like Russia's weaponizing this and we need to stop them. But it's clear we're just going down Monster Avenue, Monster Alley, so we don't need a USA-Russia thing. Speaking of something you brought up in the beginning of the podcast, though, where you said you thought, oh, like Vecna at the beginning, he's just

another villain. I love the fact that they did what they did with him, where they were like, he's responsible for everything, which took balls to be like... He was a big time... He's the reason why this show exists, basically. basically reappearance of barb too like all that shit where it all ties in and then the fact that they kept him alive we both loved we're like yeah don't create a new villain for season five you created the villain

here like keep him alive they give him we call it the darth vader spin out at the end of a new hope where he just spins out you're like oh we'll see him in the next movie right yeah i thought he was great the actual reveal of like okay okay, this guy is one. Okay, this guy did the massacre. Okay, this guy's Vecna. That was probably the best moment of the season. That was the highlight of the season. Oh, yeah, because that also shows

what we've lacked a lot in TV is a front-to-finish, start-to-finish plan. Yes. You know? Seemed like they mapped everything out. I mean, literally, like episode one, first five minutes, we're talking about Mind Flayers. And we're going to end there now. And they did a good job.

Sometimes I don't like when, like, there was the scene where Vecna's talking to, I think it's Nancy, actually, maybe not Eleven, where he's explaining everything. Oh, yeah. Sometimes when they do the, I'm going to explain everything to the protagonist's scene so that the audience knows what's up, I'm kind of like, this is really holding my hand here. He's monologuing. They did a good job. Like they say in Incredibles.

And that's when I learned that actually I can do this. Everyone got a monologue in the final episode. Oh, a lot of monologuing. It's like two hours, 20 minutes, let's give everyone a 10-minute monologue. We were like, Jonathan got a monologue. He didn't need one. I thought they did a little bit.

When it comes to the revealing front, like when Nancy reorganized the pictures, and it was the house, I was like, no fucking kidding, that house. Clearly that house is going to be a thing. You know what I mean? It's this very ominous house that we've already been inside of for a couple episodes. I was like, yeah, that's going to be a thing. You know what I mean? It's this very ominous house that we've already been inside of for a couple episodes.

I was like, yeah, that's going to be it. But it felt a little like the fact that Hawkins is like, why is this happening in Hawkins? And we kind of learn why the portals and all that shit. Because I did always have those thoughts of like, is this the only place this happens? Are there monsters across the world? Is it just this? And they really did nicely tie it all together. There might be monsters across the world though, because they also announced the spinoff.

They're like, there's a Stranger Things spinoff coming out. And I'm like, spinoff? Yep. Is that a Russia show or is it? I remember that godforsaken episode last year. See, that I was on this podcast in this chair going, I didn't hate that episode. Oh, I didn't like it. Because I thought that it was just

we're going to leave the door open. It's like the punk rock Detroit thing. We can do a series with five and six if we want to because we can do a series with six and a series with nine. Those motherfuckers, that one goddamn Detroit episode. Everyone hated that. It was like the fly

of Stranger Things, basically. But yeah, I love, I really thought that Vecna, when I found out that that girl was not Millie, that that's an actress. Oh, crazy, right? Crazy. They did like de-aging. It's not just a...

Or it's like a deep fake over a different person's face. They did do some shit to her face. We said, oh, they did a really good job de-aging her. That was a different girl? It's a different girl with her face, like Millie's face de-aged on top. There is a little bit of graphics, but that's a – I think they do look very alike in real life. Yeah. Because that –

There's a picture of them both together, and Millie's got the head shaved, and you could tell. Oh, you look like – She did shave her head? Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that. It sucks for her though you know what it does but also

I think like I'd be like we're I'm finishing this off I wouldn't even care how pretty or not pretty I am because she also pulls it off

it's Elle yeah and she also like this role made her it's not like this is a role I owe it to Stranger Things if you're making her money you could

you'd get a nice wig where people can't tell but also don't you want it to be like we're gonna do this the right way and finish it strong yeah I'll you're making her money, you could get a nice wig where people can't tell. But also, don't you want it to be like, we're going to do this the right way and finish it strong? Yeah. I'll grow that hair back. That's a good point. I like them doing the salt bath in this one too because it felt like a parallel to like season

one in a lot of ways. Like we're going back to it. Them doing the makeshift way again where it's like the first time I was in a pool in the gym. So that is what, similar to doing Dustin and Steve and there was another moment, oh, Elle getting her powers back, and one other one that I was like, eh.

They did Max's death twice in the season, basically. Yeah. That was one thing where I was like, oh, I thought she was safe after she survived the first time. And it's like, nope, we got her again. The first time was also a highlight of the season, the running up that hill scene where she survives. Shout out to Kate Bush, right?

Crazy. Some of the numbers, I've heard so many, the rumors and legend of how much money she's making now. Somebody told me she's making $2 million a week. It's like, guys, she's not making $2 million. I hope she is for her sake, but I doubt it. I think she made $2 million. Oh, definitely.

That was a number. Because she owns the publishing rights and stuff, which is where you're really making the money. The streams have made like a couple thousand dollars a week here and there. I think it all added up to like a couple million, which is – so I wonder this. Do you think the Duffer Brothers or whoever does that, they've got to clear it, right? Oh, yeah. And I guess if she owns them, they have to talk to her.

Yeah. But do you think that she picks up the phone and is like, yeah, cool? Or do you think she's like, I'm going to fucking get rich off this? I think it really depends on the person because there's stories of the wrestler the movie mickey rourke movie he wanted to use sweet child of mine as his entrance theme yeah and mickey rourke called up axel was like can we use it and he was like yep and then i think there's other people who are like for 40 million dollars or like crazy numbers you know like yeah like i wonder how

that worked because do you think any old song, any song from the 80s would have gotten that treatment? Like, I don't think. No. I don't really like that song that much. I don't think it's. I think it's a good song. I think it's a fine song.

I think it's. I think a lot of people like it because they love Stranger Things, and it was a cool moment. Like, I wonder if they put, you know, a Rick Astley song in there, would that have gone to the top of the charts? I think it has, like, an emotional weight to this song. I feel like that helps it. It has an 80s pop song, but it's dramatic too.

Like big butts and a hand. How about this? What's worse for Max? Getting her bones broken, her eyes smashed, and going into a coma, or having to listen to your favorite song so fucking much every single day. That it ruins it for you. That it ruins it for you.

And also just reminds you of the time you were almost kidnapped by a fucking... Fact. That's all you're going to be able to think about. You're always going to think about the demon that's coming after you. I remember, I love Summer of 69. It was like, I just...

It's just a fucking ass song, right? We were at a party one night and some girls kept playing that song and I can't even listen to it anymore. Really? Fuck those girls. Fuck those girls. Fuck those girls. Angela was one of them.

The roller skate girl. I passed her in the face with a roller blade. We talked about like our songs to pull us out of the upside down. What was yours?

I said Live Forever, Oasis. It's the song that got tattooed. He said Dynamite by BTS. I fucking love that song. I don't know. We're trying to become the BTS podcast

at Barstool. That is a smart business idea. That's the worst choice I've't know. We're trying to become the BTS podcast at Barstool. That is a smart business idea. The worst choice of a song. What? I didn't say it in a moment. I think that song stinks too. It's also... Bob, you can't say that we're the BTS podcast. Yeah, I forgot. Cut that from the record.

That song, Joyce, stinks, Clem. It's new. It's not anything to do with you. It reminds me of a Tide commercial or something. Well, that's new. It's not anything to do with you. It reminds me of a Tide commercial or something. Well, that's it. It's a kid's thing. So it's in Fortnite, and my kids used to play it all the time. So now I have Thanos, and he dances to Dynamite.

It's fucking awesome. What about some of the songs you grew up with and loved? I think I said another song. I'm trying to think of what it was that was my go-to. But then I said, or Dynamite. And I'm like, Bob, we'm trying to think of what it was that was like my go-to but then I said or Dynamite and I'm like, Bob,

we're going to become the BTS podcast at Barstool. Dude, those guys, they tweet like high and it gets like 700,000 which is insane.

We said the BTS podcast and also the Pakistan podcast at Barstool because we're a big Ms. Marvel podcast now. Okay, got it. Shout out to our Pakistan fans.

Shout out Pakistan. I would do Electric Field by MGMT. Oh. That song. First of all, I think it's just a funky slap. Yeah, it is. I wouldn't expect that from you. And it also is pretty much the last time I was ever happy.

It was the summer of I was 25, 6, 7-ish, like in that area. And I remember we were going to the Hamptons. We were going to the Jersey Shore. Single, no kids, no bills, bar stools popping off, and we would just get, like, hammered and, like, that electric vibe to it. It would take me back to, like, the sound, like, the actual, like, I'm listening to it, I love it, but where it takes me to. Yeah, you need the good moments.

If I was trying to, like, I don't want to die, I need to fight to survive, I would want to go back to, like, Hampton Bays where I had this stupid hat on. I was chugging a Four Loko and chasing chicks. So that would be my pick. How could you not go Call Me Maybe? You're the Call Me Maybe guy. Did I say Call Me Maybe?

Or I said Lisa Loeb's Day, I think, was on there. I think that was on there, yeah. I don't know if I said Heart of the City. I think I put Mr. Blue Sky on mine. Mr. Blue Sky, yeah. Just the happiest song I could think of. I don't even know what that song is. No, you've heard it. It's the beginning song of Guardians of the City I think I put Mr. Blue Sky on mine Mr. Blue Sky just the happiest song I could think of I don't even know

what that song is you've heard it it's the beginning song of Guardians of the Galaxy Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why oh yeah one of my favorite things

that I ever did was by making the original KFC Radio intro has Call Me Maybe in it so my podcast and Call Me Maybe the very first one has it

it's like the record scratch it's like the record scratch it's like so call me here's my number so call me maybe because it was so cool

it was a call in show too yeah that's brilliant I mean that's that's another one I could pick that one too we were at the Parker house Summer of Call Me Maybe

I don't even know what year it was Summer of Call Me Maybe I love it and we did this this white people shit where a song would come on and you only do it during

Call Me Maybe everyone's dancing around and all you do it during Call Me Maybe. Everyone's dancing around, and all you do is you spin someone like a top. You put your finger in their head, and they spin. Oh, that's great. Spin them? That's a good move. And then they turn, and they spin, and you'd watch it just bounce through the Parker house.

Very cool. Only during Call Me Maybe. I saw Glennie. He might not like me saying this, but I saw Glennie walking around the Instagram going, I can't even get a VIP pass to the Parker house. I was like, Glennie, what are you talking about? That is funny.

The people who had the VIP pass to the Parker House walk around. He told me it's gold. I mean, they kind of are. If you're like a Jersey Shore. He had to sit down with the owner. Glennie was like, I got to talk to the owner. And he sat down with the guy. Dude, there's one guy at the Parker House.

Parker House is cash only. There's this guy. I don't know if his overall nickname is this, but we call him, I know him as the silver fox older guy silver fox he's the only guy he's allowed to use a credit card i don't get out of here i do not know why he must be like a part owner or something but he can use a credit card that is so funny so i almost want to open a bar just so i could be that guy a cash only bar walk in with a credit card just like blow everyone away i love it i can lit that's another one my own worst enemy i we were at a bar in newport the wife and i and there was like you know like

the kids it's like 25 year old somethings and they're all and lit came on by like a live band and everyone was losing their mind i'm like it still hits this song it made me so happy i would go as far to say that's the number one cover band song. Oh, if Pop Punk did it for probably five or six shows, yeah. It was our second song on our set. We thought it was a very good recognizable, like that riff to go into the second song. That one, and what's Good Charlotte's song? The anthem.

Yeah, how does that one? This is the anthem, throw all your hands up. I think those two songs. Another, is it Rant? The middle, Jimmy E. World is a big one. I feel like that has to be a Madden song. I think it is. I'll go back to Madden.

I don't know if that's because they're easy guitar riffs or they're easy to sing. Yeah, they're all four chords. But every band can and does play those songs. All of those would be great. Any of those songs. That's why music is so cool. And that's why I hate the new Kanye albums. Because when I listen to them, I like changing diapers and fighting fighting a newborn and when i listen

to the other the early ones i was at a house party having a great time in my life like the the the ability what we see in stranger things it's like there's a song that could like keep you alive because you would like have the will to fight just because of hearing. It's so 80s, too. That felt very nostalgic. When she has the Walkman in the final episode when Jason steps on it, you're like, oh! I thought that was going to be even more important. Yeah. Play the music and we don't have it because of that fucking asshole.

They didn't really focus. It breaks and I guess they're just like, all right. They never did it again, right? They didn't bring it back. No. I thought it was going to be a batteries thing. I said that like, I called it early in the season. That's another thing that people don't realize

that because it would be like running up to the wall. That could actually be if they wanted to do it in the next season or something if it gets demonic that would sound like slows down and kind of gets like that. I love that speaking of the demonic and the Vecna shit. When they kept

when Max was bouncing around and they throw it back to the winter ball and they kind of like, I love that. I love when you call back old scenes in TV shows. I think Vecna is a scarier human. Oh, yeah. Fuckface is what I call him. Before he turned into Vecna.

I think you're kind of right about that. He's a great actor, at least for that scene. I don't know what else he's done, but those scenes where he's looking like this, and he's got bloodshot eyes, and he's talking to Elle. Obviously, he's a bad guy, but you see what he's saying. He's kind of like, fuck these people trying to put me in a cage when I'm elite. So I'm kind of like, yeah, fuck you. That's the best villains.

You can kind of see their perspective. Yeah, yeah. I see where they're coming from. But I think Kevin's a villain guy like me. I could tell me we're on the same page. I always sympathize with the villain. I thought Vecna was creepiest when he was like hanging up. So, OK, so right when he starts walking around, it's like, oh, I totally agree. And I think that was the only real failure of this season, because I thought the hallmark of Stranger Things to me

is good villains. I think the Demogorgon is one of the best additions. Iconic. Great names, too. One of the best additions to the sci-fi world ever. Agreed. The fucking... Almost looks like the plant, you know, like a...

Yeah, from Jumanji. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a big Venus fly shot. Yes. And there was the Demogorgon, the small ones, and a lot of those... The Mind Flayer's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a big Venus fly shot. Yes. And there was the Demodogs, like the small ones. Yes. And a lot of those, the bats. The Mind Flayer's great. Mind Flayer's great.

So the Mind Flayer is the big spider thing. The big smoke spider. Yeah. Like those are all awesome. And then I saw Vecna in his like final form and it was like you're part Predator, part Harry Potter with the no nose. Part Ken doll with the no dick. No dick.

Yeah. Somebody, was it on Barstool or maybe Coley and Trill? Like the Grinch kind of. A little bit. I was like, a little bit. Oh, you know, I got a bone to pick with Jeff D. Love. He tweeted, Vecna's slouching made him so much scarier. What?

And there's a scene where Vecna, and this is made him so much scarier and there's a scene where Vecna and this is why Coley tweeted the Grinch because the Grinch pot belly asshole is always kind of like this

and so there was this there's a still shot from Jeff's Twitter where Vecna is kind of like this and I was like that doesn't make him scary that makes him look like me like bro you need

straighten up you need to like smack him in the back of the head get your posture up you need like one of those scoliosis like. I want to smack him in the back of the head. Yeah. Get your posture up. You need like one of those scoliosis braces that the weird kid had in elementary school. So I didn't know. Maybe that was a joke by Jeff

or maybe he really thought that. I thought that Vecna as a monster was actually a letdown for the bar where Stranger Things usually has monsters. I didn't see him as a letdown, but when he was walking around in the, it was the scene you brought up before with Nancy, where he's like walking down the hallway.

He was kind of her height too. And I was oh yeah what is this guy five six five seven like i didn't think all right maybe i'll take this guy on or intimidating like at all i thought the the when he's hanging up that was like oh that's creepy and he was getting all yeah it's almost like the mummy where he's like getting stronger getting the tentacles yeah the the guilt from everyone and all that shit. But then it was like, okay, now I'm here. And I was like, he's not like a monster guy. His house was creepier than him. When they couldn't stand on any of the tentacles and they were walking through it, that was scary.

The house in real life was creepy. And the upside down is creepy. The grandfather clock was awesome. That was great. Just the clock chime. I feel like an episode ended with a clock chime too. And it was just like, oh my God. I have, grandfather clocks. Just the clock chime. I feel like an episode ended with a clock chime, too, and it was just like, oh, my God. I have a grandfather clock in my house.

And when we moved, my mom said, just keep it. Just leave it. And I was like, do you know how scary that is? It was an old house. We had like a pre-war, I think it was almost an 1800s house. Like someone's going to move in, and there's just a grandfather clock. Did it make the big chimes and everything? A whole nine, dude. Wow. 1900s house like someone's gonna move in and there's just a grandfather did it make the big chimes and everything nine dude wow and i actually never was scared by it because i just we had it

yours it would do like it's a difference on the 15 30 45 it would and then you know there would bell and all that but i always thought it was cool but like for someone else especially when they move in it's empty and there's a first night in the house. All that's there is a clock. Clock swanging and ticking. I was like, this is scary. Cuckoo clocks need to make a comeback. I always loved cuckoo clocks in the cartoon. Yeah, let's bring those back.

Let's bring cuckoo clocks back. Can we make Barstool cuckoo clocks? More cuckoo clocks. I would love to. We're going to run for president one day. Like, you know, Mr. Clem, give us your takes. America needs more cuckoo blocks. That's my promise to you and the American people.

I'll get you more cuckoo blocks. What did I say, Bob? I said in the episode, in like episode two, I said roller rinks are going to make a comeback. And then apparently they opened up some huge roller rink in like somewhere in the country. One of my favorite internet trends in the last couple years are those ones where guys skate. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Old people got their hands on their hips, but their usher did one the other day with Jamie Foxx

or whatever where they're like, I wish I could do that. I get on ice skates. I'm actually not bad on roller skates. I'm rollerblades. I played roller hockey, which helps quite a bit. But I do think it's kind of like, if you show up to the roller rink in rollerblades, I can't do it. No, you can't do it.

It's kind of like snowboarding and skiing. Yes. A little bit of a rivalry going on. Also, like, showing up to, like, a pickup game with your one buddy and, like, the nicest Jordans. Yeah. Putting your sleeve on.

Right, right. Here we go. Yeah, we're here for recreation, not for athletics. Did you walk in with rollerblades and they're like, just chill out, dude? Yeah, no problem. If you haven't heard of whatnot it is a live stream auction app where you can buy collectibles comics and more really anything else from whatnot it's live streams it's on the app 24 7 all around

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Use the link in the description. You'll get $10 off your first purchase on Whatnot. Make sure you follow us at Barstool Sports, and we'll see you on the auction. Did you, like, you're around the same age as me. Like, roller rinks were still a thing. Did you go to Sportland USA or Sport Time? Sport Time age as me. Like roller, roller rinks were still a thing. Did you go to Sportland USA or Sport Time? Sport Time USA, but I don't think I went roller skating there.

I went to Sport Time USA like two weeks ago. It was closed. Dunzo closed? I think they're moving locations. Okay. It was open because I thought maybe pandemic all that. I Googled it. It said open.

I got there. There was a sign that said like. Got there with the kids too. That's the worst. Oh, that's the worst. I'd rather get hit by Vecna. We're going to a sports time, kids. We're going to a sports time.

Up, it's closed. You can see all of like they had the arcades, the things. They were just like unplugged and all to the side. And I was like, it's moving. That's a depressing sight. Unplugged arcade machines. Yeah. Oh. Talk about a good place for like a scary scene is like a warehouse that has all the games and shit.

And one of them turns on. Yeah. Yeah. I hope Angela dies. I went to one roller rink as a kid in the Poconos. We did a white trash family trip to the Poconos as as white trash. Yeah. You know, I'm talking like places where they have the heart hot tub.

Yes. Oh, God. Yeah. Mount Airy Lodge. I think that was places where they have the heart hot tub. Yes. Oh, God. Yeah. Mount Airy Lodge. I think that was what you always see the commercials. I don't think it was, but it was. Yeah. Beautiful Mount Airy Lodge.

Yep. That's an old cut. But we went to one. It was like a Caesars in the Poconos. I think that exists. Give me a quick Google. I think you're right. Yeah.

I think it was Caesars. And I just remember the rink being very slick because I did try to rollerblade because I was a young kid and it almost was like these are not made for rollerblades. You need a four wheelers. But that was the only thing. And it was just a bunch of like old people and white trash people roller skating. And it was awesome.

Caesars Pocono Resort. Yeah. It's there. Unreal. And I kind of loved it. Well, it would be much better if there was a Barstool Sports Resort. There was a pen. It was actually pretty shitty if we're thinking back. Yeah, it was terrible. I thought it was Caesar Salads. I didn't know what it was.

That would be ballsy if we decided to be the Caesar podcast here at Barstool. We said anything to keep the basement lights on. At this point, we said we're going to start doing free ads. Yeah, we're giving away free ads, which wouldn't really help us at all. I don't know how it would help us. We're just throwing shit at the wall. Don't invite Zach Wilson over, brother. Yeah.

No, yeah. I guess not. The mom's basement. I guess not. Or you'll be down here. He'll be up there. Zach Wilson's new podcast. It's from your mom's bedroom.

I'm going to go upstairs with mom again. What's that noise? Is that construction? Yeah. No. I got a Vecna take. How about this? The most scary Vecna? Like what's that noise Is that construction Or Yeah No I got a Vecna take How about this The most scary Vecna Was kid Vecna

Cause that little Motherfucker Was Like he's killing Rabbits for fun He had a Alfalfa Yes

From What's that called Little Rascals Yeah Yeah But putting like a leash On the rabbit So it could kind of move

That was crazy He was tied up or whatever That's I mean You know that's always the sign You kill the animals The torture animals You become the school shooter Of course

Yeah exactly And he loves spiders Bob Fox hates spiders Oh you said loves I was like we just said School shooters What are you about to say That was when he was doing

His big you know speech To television There was a spider And I found that spiders Like were my friends instead of my enemies. I was like, oh. He's like, I found a pack of black widows. Did you also know Victor Creel,

who we met up with later, crusty eyes, pussy eyes, gross, he was Freddy Krueger. This season had a lot of Freddy Krueger inspiration with going into dreams and stuff, so they gave him a little role as an homage to like, hey, thanks for all the inspiration. I feel like I did notice him.

But wait. No, no, no. Wait, who was he? Victor Creel with the crusty eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The father. Peter. Nancy and Robin go to visit him.

Right, right. But he was the guy who played Freddy Krueger. Freddy Krueger, yeah. He's still alive and everything? Yeah. I think his name's like Peter Unglund or England or something. I think you're right about that. You're right.

Okay, that's awesome. That's a great little use KFC radio question for you How much money would it take for you to fuck his eyes? A hole is a hole, bro Did you notice this? It's bad radio That scene, it's 11 and 1

And look at the rainbow No, you just don't have to play Look at the rainbow Her rainbow is the right side And his rainbow is upside down. If you notice that. And then look at the symmetry between the kids on the ground there. There's her kids are like, it's kind of neat where his side of the room is all fucked up.

And that's where like that's that episode. That scene is fucking incredible. These things are so cool. So, you know, the rainbow goes from red, orange, blue, green, yellow, indigo, violet. It's in Hawkinsland. And you say Roy G. Biv. Roy G. Biv. Yeah, orange, blue, green, yellow, indigo, violet. It's in Hawkinsland. And you say Roy G. Biv. Roy G. Biv. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which is so cool, but it's also like just such extra time goes into it, which I appreciate, but it's also like – I wonder if it's a Duffer Brothers thing, like, hey, make the set look like this, or if it's like the production designers are like, let me make this a little interesting to not make it just a waiting room yeah you know yeah yeah you know what also i really think this is if if i was making a show i would i would be very aware to not lost myself and open up a bunch of doors i'm not going to close but you know how much more internet traction you get when you do easter eggs and shit oh yeah the amount of reddit threads and

we're making videos about it. Put in different colors and different. Speculating. Right. So I'd be like, load them all in there. Like, I would almost make a, somebody should make a company that does just that. We'll give you your Easter eggs to your show. Hunt is the name of the company.

Oh, that's good. That's fucking good. Let's fucking go. Let's leave Barstool and start that company. That sounds like it's like. That is great because I'm sure like anything else there's little tricks

like you know we always make the scenery the scenery is always a little bit black when the darker when the bad guys

on the you know what I mean things that you do automatically the clock where they say if you go back to all the old seasons

now when like someone gets hit abducted into the upside down you hear a zong my wife went back and watched a bunch of stuff when Will gets sucked in you hear the upside down you hear it my wife went back and

watched a bunch of stuff when will gets sucked in you hear a clock go off that's fucked and it makes the show i think better going back where like with star wars i feel like they're kind of like oh yeah we're gonna fix this shitty part of star wars by making this thing yeah yeah yeah where that it's like they already planned it they did it yeah uh um it's the anti true detective where it's like we made this awesome show on Reddit and it was just like no, this guy was a creepy perv. They basically wrote their show on Reddit first.

Yeah. They had it ready to go. Will, I don't think it needs to be a big deal but he's definitely gay. Yeah. And I saw like a couple tweets

being like if Will doesn't get a girlfriend by the next season I'm quitting and I was like they're laying it on me fucking heavy handed I thought we thought the painting was going to be

he was making the wedding crashers comparison it was going to be Michael but with the little leaf over his dick the painting was a gift Will it's dangerous it's sexual and Christopher Walken's like it's crap I mean that to me I think the Duffer Brothers came out with a quote that said like

it's like neither. It's like he's – I guess it could either be he's gay or he's just like a late bloomer. So to him, he still wants to play with the boys in the basement. He's still a kid. He seems in love with Mike. The Duffer Brothers said something like we're not going to – that's not the point. We're not going to have a reveal. But I'm like, I don't know. I personally feel this is where you live in the era of like every show has some sort of a gay couple or, you know what I mean?

It's just like they just kind of wedge them in. I respect that they weren't ham-fisted about it, I guess. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a storyline that's in there. It wasn't just like he's gay for the sake of being gay. They kind of just treat him normally. Right, and it doesn't impact anything.

But in a way, that actually makes me feel like they wedged it in because it doesn't tie into anything. Isn't it true? He's like, I thought we were

going to be friends. And he's like, I'm trying to fuck Eleven, man. We'll be alone. And also the speech he gives to Mike in the final episode when he's like,

you're the heart. You got this. You got all the heart. Let me suck your dick while you do it. I'll jerk you off while you get 11 out i was not into that speech it's a little corny i have a theory to 11 she like could have turned it on but she's like i'm gonna make this motherfucker say i love you before i actually do this and he's like come on you can do it i got you deprivation tank mike is like what's she doing in there she's like sitting in a chair with her

legs crossed like i'm wait i'll wait. I'll wait. I've got all day, man. I'm going to get you upside down no matter what. So, you know. And you knew it was coming when Vecna puts her. He's like, I'm going to make you watch and ties her up. You're like, all right, you're about to get fucking beat by 11. But when she does it and sends him flying and everything, it was still like, yeah.

Danger Things has some of the best like uh what do you think the bad guy's gonna lose or the good guy's gonna lose nope like she's back she's ready to rock her almost getting shot by the sniper

in the episode before and you hear like the honk of the pizza truck and it's like who's that they're coming over the hill did you like Argyle huh

Argyle the hippie I thought he was a little um like he's obviously a very like stereotypical stoner type dude you know uh Ioner type dude, you know? I thought it was, like, you know, there for, like, the comedic relief in a sense.

He wasn't too, you know, shoved in there. I thought he was all right. Jonathan was kind of where he was just, he was kind of like a lame stoner. It's like, get this guy. He was also just like, he was like, this is my personality now. Like, I'm a stoner. I'm going to be a stoner now. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay, whatever. Yeah. Which I guess some kids do in high school. He's Nancy Wheeler's fucking boyfriend This is what he's doing He's embarrassing As someone that loves Nancy Wheeler

I'll say it Kevin She's 27 I think they're breaking up though They're breaking up Based on their conversation at the end Which conversation? When Steve said he wants to put six fucking babies in her Despite not dating her

What kind of a move is that? It's due to somebody I will tell you this much We've seen it all in our era. From, you know, like Ross and Rachel on Friends. Through Brad and Angelina in real fucking life. And J-Lo and Ben and all this shit. If Steve Harrington and Nancy Wheeler are not together by the end of this series, I fucking riot.

It's just, it's meant to be although you forget how bad he was to her in season one he was a motherfucker he said she was a slut on the cinema do you know what that means

in like fucking Indiana that's like putting on the Times Square fucking billboard like the big screen that was really like he was such an asshole it's crazy how much

of an asshole he was based on how much we love him now but like okay he did that and then for the last like five years he's been getting attacked

by monster bats and upside down. So I think he's... And looking over kids like a big brother, yeah. Every time we turn around he's got like an axe in his hand getting attacked by some monster. Spiked baseball bat. He's the one in charge of all the kids, right? He's probably saved her brother's life a few times.

I want more wheelers. Give me Miss Wheelers. I kind of like her being a... Did you know she had a pussy necklace? I think I told you about that. Excuse me is a there's a pussy necklace that's exactly you might have mentioned this actually that's that's exactly uh target she she'll get fucked by that he might have actually fucked the actual act i wouldn't be yeah no for real that she will get fucked by zach wilson tomorrow because there's a lot of like the easter eggs or people going around she has this like a it looks it looks like it looks it looks like an actual clit. And people – it's like all over the place. She's a hoe, dude.

She is. She's a dick-thirsty hoe. And I kind of love Mr. Wheeler's kind of like – Mr. Wheeler has a dusty dick. He has not brushed that thing off since the kids were born. And all she wants is to get stuff that he reads in the newspaper every day. I love that he's – Did he wear a vagina necklace or not?

Yeah, wore a vagina necklace. And I don't think she's... I thought she was wearing it with Billy. It does look like a vagina. What does that look like? Now, I will say, it has a marble in the middle. You would want the marble to be at the top, right? Yeah, that is the one thing.

If it's real. You know, you make a little thing like that. It's a little better than... Yeah, no, that was like a pussy. I mean, she was looking for Billy just to beat it up. I mean, Billy was going to fucking beat the pussy. That was Zach Wilson. He kind of looks like Zach Wilson a little too, right?

Yeah. He had the hair and he had a headband at one point. Yeah. Mr. Wheeler is like, he feels like he's 100 years older than her. Yeah. And he's just complaining about the kids eating all the food in the house. It's like, bro, you're under attack by an unstoppable dark dark force shut the fuck up about the eggos or whatever man i i uh i feel like the the uh the setup for the final well i guess you said we're gonna jump ahead in the future that's

what i think i read somewhere i think i read that and it's gonna be traditional episode lengths and then i think there is gonna be a a big finale, which would make sense. But that even does make sense to me. The finale is going to be 60-minute episodes, but the season four you had to do an hour and a half. I swear to God, bro. I think we're getting played by big Netflix. The whole world thought this shit was the final season. And they did all the wacky things with the lengths.

And I think someone said, no, sorry, we need one more season out of you to make another $100 million. Could COVID have possibly fucked it up? Or maybe a Netflix, like, dude, do you see what our stock looks like right now? Right, right.

That's what I mean. 30 million episodes. Because they're going to all be fucking, like, 21 and, like, have moved on. It's almost like It. Did you see the second

It movie? Like, they're adults in that movie. It's almost going to feel like that. Yeah. Which is, I guess, fine. I actually think that they've done a good job transitioning to adults more than any like by now i would have thought this show sucked it would be awkward yeah yeah this was i thought

this was the best season actually yeah i i think that vechna was a very cool villain like how it all connected was very cool i thought bringing bringing barb back was a move like i like that for that little moment and shit like that uh and tying it in as one i i like like 11 thinking she was the one who massacred everybody yeah that was good guilty and that's why she has no powers and then learning it wasn't because it was this bad guy in the moment where he's i did think they kind of telegraphed it a little bit. I think it would have been a cooler moment when he's getting one tattooed on, if we really didn't know.

By then, I knew. True. If it was like, what's going on? And you're like, oh, fuck, he's one. But by then, I think they laid it on pretty thick. But at all, I think they did a really good job of tying all of that together. Making the villain one, too.

Making Eleven's villain like like this was subject A. This was the first one. Like that was badass. And really at the end of the day, when you think about it, like what they did to those kids. I mean, I guess that kid was fucked up and was a problem anyway,

but he then just tried to experiment and make a bunch of others. Fucked up. Fucked up. Oh yeah. Like those are not good people. They're not good guys. And that's it.

Like when Papa died, I'm like, A, I didn't know you were dead. I thought you were dead three times and didn't know you were alive and then it's like was he a really really bad guy was he did he have the right intentions and i it's very innocuous at the end of the day if you're like taking kids out of the real world and putting them in fucking cages and it's like you're not a good person hard to be hard to be a good person when that's it yeah that's that's pretty much the bar's pretty low pretty low. We were talking necklaces,

so I gotta get your way in on this. Miss Kelly, she's on our sus list here. Have you seen this one? There's a clock on her neck when she's meeting, and she's meeting with all these kids. This is the guidance counselor. Remember they were like, oh, all the kids that Vecna abducted are visiting the guidance counselor. And they did mention it, and it's a

fucking clock on her neck. Kind of looks like a key. I really thought she was going to be involved somehow yeah so this is the girl she talks to all the different kids she talks to all the kids about she was in the beginning like she didn't really appear later max goes to her right and then i think um i don't know if the kid that chrissy yeah chrissy goes to her which by the way chrissy we said, we said in the episode one recap, Chrissy, the head cheerleader, and the guys like Eddie who are like the drug dealer rock dudes, they are the two scariest people in high school for the complete different reasons.

And I kind of love that they hit it off in this show. It was very cool. And they said in the first episode, oh, in another life we would be in this, and then they're both dead by the end of it, so good for them. This theory here about Miss Kelly, the guidance counselor, this feels a little bit straight, a little bit true detective, reddity, like where it's like, why would the guidance counselor? She would have to somehow be in love with Vecna or something.

Yeah, it's just like there's too many. This is a bridge too far. Do you think Vecna's kind of like he's always looking for the T, though? He is like one of those. I don't know if they even say the T. Do kids still say the T, Bob? Yeah, they, it's just like there's too many, this is a bridge too far. Do you think Vecna's kind of like, he's always looking for the T, though? He's like one of those, I don't know if they even say the T. Do kids still say the T, Bob? Yeah, they say the T. So, it's like. You're so mid, Clem.

You're so mid. I used that the other day, and someone's like, good going, Clem. Like, you're trying it out. But it's like, he's like, oh, yeah, Max, that was a really bad memory you had there, huh? You know? Like, I do think he's like such a little gossipy bitch. Well, he's very gossipy and he's very vain.

Like you said, like, but first I'm going to tie you up and make you watch. It's like, haven't you ever seen a movie back then? That's where you get to give the good guy enough time, you asshole.

They don't have movies in the Upside Down. He forgot. He has not. But the way that all came together, I thought was very, like when you learn what the upside,

I think they said they changed it where in the initial cut it was red when she the upside I think they said they changed it were in the initial cut It was red when she banishes him there and then they changed it to yellow and then he turns it red when he starts You know everything everybody. I like that. I like that whole sequence. Yeah, I The whole thing was cool. It moved quick like when they first when the girls were going to the Institute I was kind of like what is this but then that being became the house and the house became the thing. Yeah, for the run times, we were actually saying every episode,

it never felt like it was Dragon. It's like, I can't believe we got to do another 90 minute episode. It kind of felt normal. By the end of episodes, it was like, oh, it's done.

The physics and the gravity between behind climbing in and out of the upside down. Oh, yeah, I like that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was cool. It's very cool.

All of it visually has always been very cool. Again, and have you noticed that we have not said one fucking thing about Russia? Yeah, that's true. You don't need to. That storyline just was not necessary. Mid.

It was mid. Mid, very mid. We just needed to keep Hopper on the back burner for the finale. Yeah. Even the reunion, like I thought, was lacking. I used to like cry over her and him and Eleven. And this was just like, eh. Eleven's always wearing the bracelet.

Did you notice that? With like the daughter and stuff. But even Wynonna, like I know it's like a nice moment. But when they're like changing and it's like, you motherfuckers better have sex right now. You've been in Russian jail for a year. You have smuggled yourself into the Soviet Union for this guy. How have you not fucked four times since you met George Hunter? When I was watching that scene, I thought, if you were in this situation, a literal one like you're running from a Russian prison, or a fake one like you're in the Upside Down, like Nancy and Steve are kind of like holding hands and getting cutesy in the Upside Down shit. If you were in, you know, zombie land, they're attacking

you. Are you really getting your dick up and trying to get your dick wet? No. You can't physically, right? If your life is in danger, I think there's no way the little guy's coming up. Okay, but even, let's say you're in The Walking Dead where it's like, we found a house and we're safe for the night. Different. Are you still getting your fuck on? I think you're getting your

fuck on. I think so because you're like, I gotta do it before I die. You're like, nothing else to do. No Wi-Fi anymore. That's some Aria shit, right? It's an Aria thing? When they were flirting in the Upside Down, they were literally stepping over these roots from trees that are evil and shit. I'm like, are you really trying to get your dick ripped right now?

Now? Of all places? Not in the Upside Down. No way are you fucking in the Upside Down. You can't fucking in alternate reality. No, no, no. But Walking Dead, if we're months into this thing it's like i don't know it's a little pandemic can you imagine next season if like will is not will

who's i always forget michael mike is fucking uh 11 like in the like like like they have scenes where will's like knocking yeah like in a minute did you see in Modern Family towards the end of the season, the late seasons when they have sex doggy style in that show? Who? Yeah. Claire? Claire and Phil? What?

No. Kevin, I don't. I feel like I'm watching my own parents have sex. You're saying that. And because Haley comes in and. And they're doing a doggy stance. And they're like in that position? Her head is like sticking out of the covers.

And I think it was like the first time on – Oh, my God. Look at that. Oh, that's like her head sticking out of the sheets. She's on all fours. I don't know what that all is. They call that the prone bone, I believe. I think they walk in on like Mother's Day and like, yeah, she's getting prone boned.

And so imagine they do like, it's going to be 2024 or whatever by the time this comes out. Sex scenes are getting even more realistic on TV. Are we going to like, is 11 going to be like giving head? Will Papa be back alive to watch it? All right. I never died. That's a perfect note to end it on with papa we got we

gotta do the fast food review with our with our fellow snacking off guy here we do fast food reviews for all shows all tv shows movies anything like that so it's if it were a fast food item what would it be so i'll give i have mine already for you do you have did you do you know i didn't know we're doing for a show we usually do for movies oh do okay do you want to do it yeah yeah fuck it My fast food item I just had it the other day So it has to be Stranger Things 4

The cheddar chalupa I am a chalupa guy I think chalupa is a fucking incredible fast food item It's probably my go-to Taco Bell item Really? But it's a little different It's a cheddar shell or whatever the fuck There's like six ingredients they just slap it on there

and i was like this is good it's different and it's better than i expected and that's season four that the way they ended volume one which by the way volume one volume two it's a little fancy you know for a netflix show right but i said i said holy shit i go this is exactly so i immediately i was like stranger things for 4, Cheddar Chalupa. I got one in my head, just came into my head. I think I've used this one before. I'm going to go with a Big Mac because I actually don't get a Big Mac very often. But every time I get one, I'm reminded like, oh, shit, these are pretty fucking good.

That's the reason why it's number one. They're loaded. They're huge. You're like, am I going to eat that whole thing? But by the end of it, you're like, oh, I ate the whole thing, and I didn't even notice it. I'm not sure I know. So I'm going to go Big Mac. I'm going to go High Praise with a twist.

I'm going to go Cheesy Gordita Crunch. That is High Praise. But with the Dorito Locos shell. Is that legal? It's street legal. You might have to ask. It's on the secret menu. Yeah, secret menu.

Because I thought, again, we had Steve and Dustin were a pair. We had Eleven regaining her powers. We've done a lot of the classics, but there was some elements that were twisted and up, like elevated. And that's the Dorito Loco shell. So it's like a classic with some extra. That's what I thought the season four was. Look at this guy. And I meant for me.

Right into the basement. Right into it. For me, Cheesy Gordita. The only reason I hesitated, because I think Cheesy Gordita Crunch is like the number one item in fast food history. A lot of people say that.

A lot of people do. So don't take it to mean that because I don't think it's the greatest ever. Yep. Maybe I'll just say a hard taco from, a taco supreme,

but with the Doritos Locos shell. Because it's like a classic, but with a twist. That's better because the Cheesy Gordita Crunch is reserved for like True Detective season one. Yeah. Yeah. Royal with a twist. That's better because the Cheese Go To The Crunch is reserved for like True Detective season one type show. Yeah, royalty. That's fair enough. Alright, thank you to everyone for

tuning in to My Mom's Basement, our Stranger Things 4 review. We'll do a Stranger Things 5 preview. We didn't do one for this season because we were like, ah, should we recap it? Should we not? We're in at this point. We forgot how good the show was in like the seven years in between episodes. Alright, thanks Kevin. You got it man, thank you.