My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 224 - MARVEL/DC MID-YEAR REVIEWS WITH CLEM
Episode Date: August 13, 2022Robbie and Clem break down the nerd news of the week, give Marvel/DC some mid-year reviews, and answer your questions in a mailbag segment! 3Chi: Use code STOOL5 at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi....com Gametime: Download the app and use promo code MMB for $20 off your first purchase! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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Hello and welcome back to My Mom's Basement presented by 3C and Barstool Sports. It is
Robbie and Clem back again for kind of a grab bag edition of the show. We don't have any shows to
recap on My Mom's Basement right now, so we were talking about what to do. We did a fun 90s edition
of the show last week. Go check that out if you didn't see it. And this week we're going to do
kind of a mailbag news episode. We're going to split it. Clem, how you doing?
Doing great, Bob. It's like you said, it's settled down a little bit in the basement,
but there's going to be a lot of stuff coming. It's going to get a little hot down here,
a little spoiler for later in the pod. So it's like a break, but not a break
because there's always news in the nerd world going on. We have a couple of things to recap,
review, or just, you know, go over. And there's just a lot of shit coming. There's just, I feel
like there's always just a ton of stuff. It's fucking the other side of Thanos and Endgame.
It's his army. It's always that in terms of content coming our way.
And it's just a matter of when it's going to get here.
The next one is She-Hulk next week.
I believe it's Thursday.
They changed the release date for this one.
So instead of Wednesday drops, it's going to be Thursday drops.
We'll recap that, of course.
I don't know if we're going to recap it in a full podcast form yet,
if we're going to do it the Ms. Marvel way,
which we also never finished our Ms. Marvel recaps for for the people i know some people have asked about that so we could talk a little bit
about the ending of miss marvel and stuff on this as well because we just trailed off that got too
busy apologies for that but i thought miss marvel the first two episodes i thought were awesome
then it started to get a little slow trail off after that. But then I thought it finished pretty strong, especially with like the post-credits scene.
Got me real excited for the marvels.
Yeah.
So we had said the whole time wasn't directed towards us.
But I do think that there is enough background stuff in it that is very marvel-y and good, good, well done show.
And who is it?
The people who made it had gotten fired from the was it the
batgirl project girl they were the directors they made the first two episodes and our boy kevin
feige was like he put a little letter i was like you guys were awesome i want everyone to know that
and getting your show canceled or whatever sucks and it's probably a little embarrassing but when
the man in the hat comes out the hat man says you guys are awesome that is like better than anything
any resume builder you can ever get.
You said it, Bob.
Post-credits was cool.
There was some decent fight scenes in the last episode.
But your boy Clem, I just got goosebumps thinking about it.
Just hearing those chimes go on.
We're talking mutants right now.
I don't know how they're going to all put it together.
I'm still not sure how the hell the X-Men are going to come in.
It feels like it almost kind of our first mutant in the MCU.
I mean,
we got like Patrick Stewart in multiverse of madness,
obviously.
So like in,
in a way that,
but they haven't really said that word and called someone a mutant like
that.
And I believe in the comics and if I'm wrong,
people jump down my throat about this.
I believe Ms.
Marvel's an inhuman in the comics.
So it's kind of a change for this.
And they've made some changes to her powers and stuff like that in the MCU.
She's a little bit different because I think in the comics her powers are a little more Mr. Fantastic-like.
But Iman Villani, she's definitely maybe Rookie of the Year in the MCU, especially when you hear the behind the scenes stories about her and how she's just a fan like arguing with people on reddit about theories
and stuff like i love everything i hear about this girl she's the anti-gwyneth paltrow who is like oh
i guess so was i with spider-man tom holland who the fuck is that like i love that girl man she was
miss marvel for halloween in high school. She loves this character.
It's like you and Conor McGregor.
Just to see you get to do content with him, it just warms my heart.
So shout out to her.
Shout out to Feige, by the way, because they said that was Feige's idea to throw the X-Men thing in there.
So when Clem gets his X-Men, he's going to be a very, very happy person, which I mean, X-Men 97 is coming. But once we get it on the big screen, the casting is going to be probably like the biggest
news I feel for a while when we get the casting for all that stuff.
Well, I believe they're bringing back majority of the main cast.
Oh, you mean the X-Men in the MCU?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought you meant X-Men 97.
I was going to say the cartoon is going to be all the same voices.
Yeah, yeah, no.
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was cast in Roadhouse. They're doing a roadhouse reimagining
jake gyllenhaal is in the lead role the patrick swayze role and he's playing a former ufc fighter
who's hired as a bouncer in key west and you know like roadhouse he has to kind of take control of
this bar and conor mcgregor i believe is going to be playing one of the villains one of the people
that he has to fight it was our boy justin kroll with the scoop so shout out to kroll the god
um this is pretty awesome news for me i know some people have this connection to roadhouse where
they're like you can't remake roadhouse don't fuck up roadhouse i was born in 1998 i got no
connection to roadhouse i've seen it i think it's a good movie i like patrick swayze a lot
but yet this just excites me i'm like it's a good movie. I like Patrick Swayze a lot. But, yeah, this just excites
me. I'm like, they're calling it a
reimagining, too, which
feels almost like they're like,
we swear we're not remaking it.
Chill out, everyone. You have to be
very careful. Remake, reboot.
If it starts with R-E, you have to be very
careful about the words that come after it.
I'm almost
terrified to be, if I went up to R-A and be like, R-A, what do you think about the remake? Oh, it i i'm almost like terrified to be to if i wasn't till
like up to ra and be like all right what do you think about the room making oh crap i'll fucking
tell you these fucking guys in hollywood these days it would be an incredible rant for you know
legit cinephiles like all right who loves that stuff especially those 80 cult classics and stuff
like that i just watched it for the first time probably like five years ago i never like growing
up never got into it i heard you
would hear stories or people would make references and blogs about i know bill simmons was always
talking about roadhouse and his stuff and it is like the perfect 80s kind of like silly movie and
you gotta love swayze and all that kind of shit so and i when you told me you said do we talk
about conor mcgregor i thought he was playing like the lead in roadhouse i was like wow this
is gonna be nuts but being the bad guy that's the perfect thing i feel like it's whether hulk
hogan in the 80s you know you have all these kind of uh you know either wrestlers boxers or now
obviously mma guys so let's just say it's good for the mma community that they are now just
getting their their their feet into big movies that are going to be a big deal it's got a good
director too.
I think it's the guy that directed the first Bourne movie.
I think he did Live, Die, Repeat or Edge of Tomorrow,
the Tom Cruise, Emily Blunt movie with two names
that was really good.
So I have some high hopes for it.
It's an Amazon Prime movie too.
So it's not like we're going to have to go to the theaters,
buy a ticket for this.
It's just going to show up for free on your TV.
And speaking of movies showing up for free on your tv and speaking of
movies showing up for free on tv i saw four movies since our last podcast i wanted to mention them
all because they were all pretty good to be honest um my favorite of which was one free streaming
movie on hulu prey it's the new predator movie it's the fifth predator movie which i didn't
realize i thought there was way more
because Alien vs. Predator. I guess there's
two of those. I'm not counting.
But the original Predator is classic.
Then they haven't really made a good
Predator since. Some people say
Predator 2. Predator 2 is kind of...
I don't know. Did they make a Predators?
They just threw an S at the end of it?
Yes.
And that one had a good idea, but not great execution.
That one was like,
they took all these bad villains and they dropped them all on a predator
planet to survive.
So it was like kind of a cool idea like that.
The last predator movie stunk the predator.
I didn't even see it,
but I saw clips from it and reviews and like, it looked horrendous.
This one was awesome. They gave this one to david tractenberg i believe his name is he was the guy that made 10
cloverfield lane he directed an episode of black mirror that was really good and he just brought
it back 300 years he's like let's go native american comanche tribe has to fight a predator
that comes down onto the planet using,
you know, kind of like Ewok technology, if you want to call it that,
like axes, rocks, stuff like that.
And it was bad-ass Clem.
It was like 90 minutes.
It's a real quick watch.
The simplest plot.
There's no little subplots.
There's no, this it's like predators after these people,
this girl's got to fight the predator.
Like they're
each hunting each other at this point it ruled it sucks that i'm so like out of the loop in terms of
you know movies if something if a trailer goes viral on twitter or it's something i like love
like game of thrones or something like that or used to love i should say i'll catch wind of it
you asked me oh you said to me oh i'm to go see the Elvis movie. I was like,
didn't even know there was an Elvis movie.
That was just crazy to me,
which is a big Elvis movie was everywhere.
Yeah.
And I'm just in my kids.
Like bluey came out this week.
It was front page news in the Casa de Colom. And I wrote a blog about it.
We also have shirts.
So I'll pump the shirts,
go in with the barstool.
So I can't believe we have blue shirts in the barstool store.
And every power was like,
Oh my God,
this is great. I watched it without my my wife and there's legit trouble in the house
right now let alone watching it without some people say they watch it without their kids so
i'm completely disconnected the two movies that have just been like i've been seeing all over my
timeline are prey and nope and i'm like what the fuck is with these one word uh movies and i had
no idea that this was even coming out but as someone that has only
watched the first predator i could maybe get into pride and again great title you're kind of going
predator versus pride all that stuff they've done a good job with keeping it very simple
all the titles even predators the predator but pray just on title alone like you kind of have me
maybe getting into it and breaking news on the podcast as well we are finally paying for prime
in the casa de Club.
Oh, nice.
My mom has Prime, which I just found out after we got the subscription going that you could add accounts to the household or something like that.
And I'm like, fuck, I wish I had done that.
I'm going to have NFL football playing every Thursday night.
And then we're going to have, obviously, you get the free shipping.
And I got myself a PS5 because I got to join the wait list.
You get an invitation or a chance for an invitation if you are a Prime member.
You get kind of like the jump on everyone else.
And I ended up just winning it this morning, like a week after I had signed up.
So, shout out to Jeff Bezos.
I'm a Bezos guy.
I call him Bezos, actually.
I don't know which one's the one.
I've said my mom was on Amazon. I think it's Bezos.
I think it is Bezos, right?
Someone said Bezos recently. I was like, fuck, have I been saying it wrong for years because i say a lot of bezos is funny let's let's go on bezos i'm a bezos guy uh bartle bezos or
whatever he's like the devil you know what i mean but i i've been a guy i've been i've been an
amazon guy for so long my mom got in on amazon early and when i say got in i mean she had a
membership we don't have stock or anything. And I've always just,
I saw like when he takes over the world,
I'm going to be like,
yo man,
like my mom is like,
you know,
account number 0016.
Like we were on you guys from day one when you were,
I think still a bookstore.
So,
so Amazon prime streaming on price.
Okay.
I'm fucking in Bob.
You got me in just like that.
You sold me.
I did see Nope as well.
I thought Nope was awesome.
I saw Nope get some extra views. I thought it it was really good not as good as get out but better
than his last movie us which i thought was also entertaining but just us trailed off at the end
that i didn't like the end didn't see us i fucking love get out my wife and i both love get out every
time i hear um what's the name of that childish gambit redbone every time i hear redbone i think
of that and i was like i was like shit am i gonna go to the movies and see nope and nope that didn't happen uh but i'm trying to get into
as many streaming things like you said we got prime why did we get prime bob a for shipping
obviously but b we got the boys and we crushed three seasons of it in like three weeks max which
for parents is like world records impressive that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen often.
I'll just say this.
It surpassed the lofty expectations I had from it, from you,
from all the people in the basement who've been telling me to get it for
anyone that hasn't watched it.
Maybe I'll let you guys, if you, if you need prime,
maybe I could get you on the account, but you get it.
It it's honestly,
I think it's the best show that's currently on TV right now.
And I don't take that kind of shit lightly saying that.
But for me, it's probably my favorite show currently on television.
I could probably name like three other shows that are currently on TV.
Holy fuck.
It was God.
I said to everyone, even like my parents were recommending to just give it the first 15 minutes.
If you're not hooked by then, you're not going to get you will get hooked. get hooked but like i'll give you that much just give me one bite and you're fucking hooked
same with the show awesome awesome show and jose we gotta get jose to watch i know he didn't like
but this is different it has to be different because there's no way he could hate something
this good a lot of people want a butcher to play wolverine what do you think about that
sold thousand percent i love that i don't i thought it was
benicio del toro when i was like watching on tv and i'm like and i'm like oh i know this guy's
like significantly more badass than benicio del toro he's a much younger at this point
that guy's awesome i don't know any of their names but every single they're like who's your
favorite character like it changes every episode there's even the shitty guys are so shitty that
they're awesome uh and like you know evil way so
uh 10 out of 10 if you guys are in the basement you haven't watched the boys yet trust me just
you'll you'll catch up and you'll be hooked to that shit so what else did you see bob i was gonna
say some other movies i saw that i could recommend the black phone if you're into horror movies this
is an ethan hawke horror movie that was made with a pretty low budget and made a ton of money.
Really creepy, like super.
This was like my worst fear as a kid was like getting kidnapped by a creepy guy and held hostage in a creepy basement.
That's what the black phone is.
And it's another one that like doesn't go on too long.
It's 90 minutes.
It's pretty quick.
The unbearable weight of massive talent.
The Nicolas Cage, Pedro Pascal movie. Pretty funny. I didn't think it was as funny as some people said like i think caleb said it was like the
funniest movie of the last 10 years he went to go see it in theaters two or three times
maybe i didn't get the same experience not seeing it in a theater full of people laughing with me
but i was i just thought it was an enjoyable watch. It was like, all right, this is fine. And then Bullet Train.
I went to go see the new Brad Pitt movie Bullet Train in theaters two days ago.
Good movie, fun movie, kind of like Tarantino inspired in a lot of ways.
Crazy, violent in some ways that I didn't expect.
Brad Pitt is also always awesome in movies.
This movie was definitely too long.
It just kept going on.
It was fun, but it had an ending, and it just kept going past it.
We've experienced that a few times with some of the shows we've had a review.
Even the movies, we're like, they probably could have snipped 15, 20 minutes.
Not a bad watch, though.
Maybe don't rush to the theater to see it, but when it comes out on streaming, when it's free,
if you're looking for a crazy action movie to throw on,
it's got a really good cast, like tons of great actors in the cast
and crazy cameos.
Like people show up in it where you're like,
holy fuck, this actor's in it?
Yeah, so it's like, it's a lot of fun in that way.
Flat out, didn't even know it was a movie.
You could have told me Bullet Train came out in 1964, 1994.
I believe you had no idea it was even a thing.
That's one of the bigger summer blockbusters of this year.
God damn it.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, I was hoping maybe like any brand.
It's a $95 million action movie, which is crazy.
Like usually they don't put $95 million into a random action movie.
John Wick 3 I saw had a budget of 70 mil.
Oh, God.
There's John Wick 4 coming out, right?
I know that. I know that is like in the works. John McFore coming out, right? I know that.
I know that is like in the works.
Okay.
Have you seen the WIC movies?
I saw the first two and I thought they were people like,
ironically like them,
like they're so bad.
They're good.
But then I just stayed like,
they like that kind of thing.
And I was like,
Oh yeah,
I can fuck with this.
So I don't know why I haven't seen,
I don't think I've seen.
Three's good.
Yeah.
I saw three next to sway from sway in the morning. Really? Yeah. He was in our theater. Me, Three's good. Yeah, I don't. I saw three next to Sway from Sway in the Morning.
Really?
Yeah, he was in our theater.
Me, Jeff D. Lowe, Ken Jack, and Sway.
And Sway.
Oh, God.
I could just be a fly on the wall for a Jeff D. Lowe and Sway conversation.
That would be just incredible, incredible stuff.
I have one recommendation.
I'm more into the shows because, again, actually, I did see a movie.
I saw Top Gun, finally.
And I'm very proud to say it.
Awesome movie, right? Yeah. Everyone, the thing is, people definitely built it up they're like this is great you have to see it in the theater i just saw the 80s movie with my wife probably about a
month ago and it was so unbelievably like cheesy and corny and i never watched people like clem
you fucking grew up when top gun like came out how have you never seen it? Any bold like me who played an NES game,
it was impossible to land that fucking plane in the game.
And I said, I'm never going to watch this movie.
Fuck this movie.
And seeing it now for the first time,
like 30 years after it came out,
it's almost 40 years.
It's absolutely like, it's kind of campy.
It's corny, but it's fun.
It's just good, clean American fun.
This new movie, I will say the first half of it,
I was like, man, these aren't going to hit those expectations.
The last hour, every single box was checked.
It fucking nailed it.
Boom, boom, boom.
See it in the IMAX if you can.
I don't even know if it's even out.
Tom Cruise went ahead and saved the goddamn box offices all by himself.
And the guy's a fucking superstar. And then streaming, I'll give one recommendation.
Rico Bosco and Dante both blogged about The Bear.
It's a Hulu show.
Oh, I've heard about it.
Everyone keeps telling me to watch it.
They submitted blogs within an hour of each other.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Did this show just premiere?
I guess it just got picked up.
Maybe that's why it was in the news.
But I guess it had been out for a little while.
And it's based in Chicago.
It's about a beef restaurant, like Chicago beefs, like what we sell.
Go to your JP Graziano's.
Get your Chicago free plug here on the pod.
And, oh, man, we're two episodes in, and it is incredible.
So it's Hulu.
I have a month preview of Hulu.
I will most likely, more than likely, not be resubscribing to Hulu.
However, I did see Prey is on there as well.
So I'll be watching Prey at home.
It's a quick movie.
Like I said, it's literally 90 minutes.
Wow.
Oh, now we're speaking my language.
Parenting, it's like 90 minutes or in and out.
I might fall asleep for five minutes on it.
Perfect.
There are a few things I appreciate
as much as a good 90-minute movie nowadays.
I think that's part of the reason
I love Thor Love and Thunder so much.
I was like, that was a fucking quick in and out even though i wanted some more it was like
all right it was quick in and out saw it in theaters three times barely realized i can't
wait till that just comes on disney plus and just throw it on the background as um and again all the
things we said during the review i do think they still could add 10 minutes worth of gore and
natalie port and and jane stuff but other than that like just i think
it'll it's a movie that will age well especially because the fucking rotten tomato meter was
completely wonky i had it near like dark world so what are we talking about here people uh some dc
news they're weighing three options for the flash apparently yeah i know i know the three options one have ezra miller
come out and do like a tell-all apology interview that's the dumbest idea of all time so let's throw
that one out the window right away there's two options light it on fire first then throw it out
the window yeah there's two options uh have him do no press whatsoever and release the movie. Be like, fuck it.
What happens happens.
He's recast undoubtedly in future movies.
This will be his last movie, but we're just putting it out.
Two, scrap the movie altogether.
Get your tax returns.
It's $200 million already put into it.
Crazy.
I mean, crazy that this is where we are.
But Ezra Miller just can't stop doing ezra miller
shit he was just arrested for burglary again uh he's getting arrested for this getting arrested
for that he did the dude's like basically an international terrorist super villain
i don't know what the fuck you do he's a super villain playing a superhero he basically is like
half the characters in the boys.
He's half the soups in the boys.
He just is always getting in trouble.
And they have PR nightmares every five minutes.
The one, like you're at $2,100 million.
At this point, like just deepfake someone else's face on him.
It can't be that hard.
I bet like.
That's what Nick Hamilton said.
Yeah.
He was like deepfake technology is getting so good right now.
Like I actually don't hate that
idea like do yeah grant gustin the guy that plays him on the cw like everyone loves that guy so why
not you know give him a promotion yeah and you just you don't have to do research you just you
know nick hamilton can fucking literally all ignore it you know you don't even have to address
it in the movie we'll just ignore it we'll be like all right we get it and if you scrap it like we're gonna want to see the movie eventually if you scrap it it's there's gonna be
some part of me that's like but what did michael keaton back his batman look like you know like
yeah i want i want to see that and it's apparently testing really well that's the difference between
this and that girl i think is i don't think that girl was testing very well and this is testing
very well they could not is testing very well.
They could not catch a break at DC. They actually
have someone that tests well, and the
fucking actor in it is a real-life super
villain. Like, a real-life super
villain. Like, doing things that I've
never seen anyone do ever.
I tweeted, like,
remember I tweeted last week, like, we're due
for a crazy Ezra Miller headline
any day now. Eight days later, I think it was, like,'re due for a crazy Ezra Miller headline any day now.
Eight days later, I think it was like arrested again.
He's got babies committing crimes for him now.
It's like, what?
He's a real life.
He's like the acting version of Antonio Brown at this point where it's like, it's crazy.
We're due for a story.
I need hubs with like blog shit.
And I'll be like, wait, didn't he just blog this when you go?
It's like, oh no, he did something else. That is an absolute preposterous fucking sentence to write out and say it.
And listen, if you're an actor, you could be crazy.
You got to be better than Ezra Miller.
It would be this fucking crazy in my opinion.
You know what I mean?
So it's like if Brad Pitt does shit like that, it's like, all right, Brad, you have the fucking, you know, hardware on the shelves.
This guy does not have it.
I don't know.
Does Brad Pitt even have awards?
He might have awards, but he's Brad fucking Pitt.
It's,
you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw some rumors that Ezra Miller got punched in a bar in Japan by the guy
that played Elvis,
Austin Butler.
You could just fill in a Mad Libs at this point where Ezra Miller,
and I believe that every single time.
So that's like a headline.
You,
you could go,
uh,
celebrities in Hollywood or time square.
Elvis punches the flesh
uh some more dc news this is actually not bad news about dc so let's highlight it idris elba
has teased a really big project with dc obviously he was in the suicide squad he played blood sport
he made it through the end of that movie. He did survive. Spoiler alert.
He's got a daughter in that movie.
That's kind of the storyline with him.
Kind of a Deadshot-like thing
with the daughter relationship.
Maybe another James Gunn
Peacemaker-style television show.
Maybe Suicide Squad 2.
I don't know.
That seems like we would probably hear about it.
It would trickle out
because that's a really big project. I a blood sport tv show could work especially after
seeing peacemaker like i'm not really gonna doubt james gunn after that yeah so i mean get the meme
ready here it is leaking coming out boom dc just slaps james gunn on it and it fixes all the
problems i in the suicide squad if you go back to the review,
I was like, I liked Idris Elba and John Cena in there,
but I just didn't feel,
it didn't like catch me as much as I thought it would.
But Pacemaker was like one of my favorite shows
on all TV this year.
So his own solo show with Big Jimmy Gunn in the mix,
like I'm in.
You have my eyeballs for at least,
you know,
the first three episodes.
And unless you absolutely DC it,
which I don't think James gun even has the ability to do.
He's like,
he's DC proof.
That's a,
you know,
he's DC proof.
So yeah,
whether it's,
it's a show,
it's a movie,
it's a suicide squad too.
If you have James gun in it,
I'm in,
I like you just elbow enough that i think i'd
be in no matter what though uh for whatever the project may be even if james gunn isn't attached
but there is going to be like a smell if it's no james gunn and dc's involved like all right how
are you guys gonna fuck this one up this time it's not bob we do not want this to be like this
we do not want to be like no extra miller can't stop getting arrested they're canceling projects that are 90 million dollars it's like at some point we look like the assholes
if we're not calling them out on their shit when you just strip it down to the characters
literally just take the characters i am a dc over marvel guy you are like that that's where
it breaks my heart the most like i have batman tattooed on my arm i love the bat family i want
to see these people succeed and you know we got the batman so it's like you know we'll go over marvel and dc mid-year
reviews later on in the podcast yep uh some more dc news though lady gaga will officially co-star
in joker 2 weird this is this is going to be strange it's going to be a musical yeah i'm i'm not super into it yeah yeah oh it's
a musical described as i saw a tweet said it was it's more star is born than west side story now
i had a tweet or a blog actually a full blog years ago at this point when joker came out
there was rumors oh my god it made almost a billion dollars are we going to make joker too
and i said i don't think you can make make a Joker too with this character that you've
established because Joaquin Phoenix is Joker. It's a good character. I don't know if it's a good
Joker in terms of, I don't think this is a guy who could ever challenge Batman to a fight or who
could ever outsmart Batman in any way. And some people have said, well, he's the guy who just
inspires the eventual
Joker or whatever. It's also weird. The timeline of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, he would be like 70
by the time Batman was an adult. So it's just strange when you say we're doing it as a trippy
musical. I go, okay, I'll give it a shot because maybe it's a fever dream and they could do something crazy with it.
Todd Phillips, though, doesn't have the best reputation on sequels when you look at The Hangover 2 and 3.
Yeah, I was going to say the same exact thing.
I could live with Hangover 2.
I wasn't thrilled when I left the movie theater.
Hangover 3, I was offended.
I felt like I was wrong.
I felt like someone took my wallet out of my pocket and took, let's see, $20.
Plus, I probably got popcorn and a cherry Coke. So coke so like 40 out of my wallet and put it back in
just put games james gunn on the project like sorry todd you lost it we're just putting james
like everything else for the dc universe for the foreseeable future and you know what i i'm at the
point where it's like if james gunn really is done with uh the guardians after uh three it's like
you should just go for it, man.
Get that bag and fucking like lock it up unless you don't want to do superhero movies.
But in that case, DC, make him say no to the number that he should.
No one can ever say no to.
I just saw they want their own Kevin Feige.
Like it's there was a thing that came out that said they're searching for like a Kevin Feige.
I know Greg Berlanti.
I think his name's Greg Berlanti.
He's the guy that does all
the cw shows they were like thinking about promoting him because he's done i will say the
cw shows like him or not he's done a good job at creating a connected universe and establishing
an actual fan base like those shows arrow the flash supergirl they have a fan base on twitter
that's like pretty pretty vocal and he's done a good job with a
very very very limited budget you know like very very little resources so if you promoted him
I do think he would probably do a good job I mean he did a crisis on infinite earths
saga for the CW where he brought in Kevin Conroy to play an old Bruce Wayne and he brought in Brandon Ralph to play a different
version of Superman and he brought in Ezra Miller's Flash before he was canceled and it was like holy
shit they're bringing in like the DCEU and that was all Greg Berlanti so if he gets promoted cool
James Gunn does seem like the obvious choice to me like because I just want to see what he does
as well like what would James Gunn do with control of characters like superman and batman he doesn't even have to make the movies but him
just being the kevin feige of those movies the last when when superman finally shows up at the
end of peacemaker a little spoiler for us it's like one of the funniest lines like i've laughed
hardest in my life at that point i have my sports analogy for the episode too. Greg Berlanti. This is what he is.
He is circa 2004.
The Boston Red Sox, or it might have been 2003, whenever.
Whenever they hired Theo Epstein.
But the Boston Red Sox are looking for a GM,
and Greg Berlanti is Billy Bean out in Oakland making things work
with a shit budget, and it's like this fucking team.
All they do is goddamn win.
And whatever he's doing, whatever vision,
whatever his brain, the way it works,
he's able to make fucking,
you know,
nice,
delicious cake out of shit rest at a shit ingredients.
You bring that guy to Boston with that fucking payroll.
And this guy could,
you know,
win a ton of world series.
Obviously never happened with Billy bean,
but Berlanti is,
it sounds like he's that dude in the entertainment industry.
So shout out to him.
So I,
I definitely like him.
Yeah.
Yeah. I I'll have the DC people either agree with us or jump down our throats either way uh but something
needs to change it's just something needs it somebody needs to change at the top plus like
that whole weird stuff with the hbo max i don't know where these projects are even going to be
but that's even a bigger issue than just dc um some news. Now we can get into,
I am Groot is out.
We talked about this months ago when it was initially announced,
probably over a year ago when it was announced, it's just five little animated shorts about group baby group specifically
take place right after guardians of the galaxy one.
And they're all about three minutes.
It says five minutes on Disney plus,
but like all other Disney plus shows, half the fucking runtime is credits.
Crazy.
These credits on Disney Plus shows.
I watched all five right before we started.
It's adorable.
That's how I would describe it.
They're adorable little shorts.
They remind me of the Disney shorts that would play before a Disney Pixar movie.
And if you like Groot, if you like Guardians of the Galaxy,
this is a great way to spend 15 minutes.
Your kids will love them.
This is, you know,
this is one of those things
you can't really fuck up.
Yeah.
So I watched the first one
right before we went live.
I had a chance to check it out yet
because again,
they dropped this and they dropped
I Am Groot and Bluey season three
the same day.
My kids,
they will sit in front of the TV for hours,
but we can't just let them do
that and bluey takes precedent in this house as much we love our sweet baby group uh so we watched
the first episode together and that was the exact thought i had it's like the pixar shorts you get
before the movie it has that uh like little dark guardians humor that's like yep like but the kid
that goes over the kid's heads but the parents can enjoy it's the perfect show for all ages and if you want to know how much these things probably cost disney
that credits just lets you know it's it's longer than the actual show so so many people probably
had their hands in this fucking thing and that's why uh you know disney plus and we'll get into
the grades later disney or marvel has not been like a perfect year but just little things like
this is just nice and i i i fucking yeah little things like this is just nice. And I fucking love it.
Yeah, more things like this.
I would love more shorts.
They used to do one shots, they called them,
where it was like a little short
that went along with every DVD release.
It was like a little 10 minute short movie or whatever.
More of that stuff.
I love that stuff.
Little two minute shorts.
Give us a Zemo short for 30 seconds.
Like stuff like that goes a long way with the fan base
big time there's a i believe a funko pops kind of looking uh short series might be two seasons long
it's probably like a minute episode probably about eight a season and i'll watch it with the kids and
it's it's funny there's usually some references that have to do with the mcu that like maybe the
kids don't get but the parents can enjoy it's's funny. It's kind of like the Lego.
I always love when Lego does stuff,
you know,
they crush it.
We went to Legoland by the way,
in New York,
fucking great time.
If anyone ever wants to go to Legoland,
a good way to spend a time with a day with the kids.
And this group ship,
man,
it's like,
I got a little more.
Enjoy the next four.
You're really going to like,
yeah,
better than others.
I think that my favorite was a group takes a bath. It was really fun. Mike. And are better than others. I think my favorite was Groot Takes a Bath.
It was really fun.
Mike, and I got to the point too where I was like, all right, I'm going to go record the podcast now.
There's four more.
Don't you watch these without me.
This is a family thing here, and I don't want them to see it without me.
I think my wife asked me, what is your favorite Groot?
So we have all Groot.
We have newborn Groot at the end of guardians one in the little pot in the pot.
Yeah.
You have baby group and guardians too.
You have older group in infinity Warren and game.
Cause he got snapped away.
So he doesn't really get older.
And then I guess you have like a little bit older group in love and thunder.
So which is your favorite group?
How do you not go guardians to baby group?
I think it's such like,
it's a slam dunk.
I compare him to baby.
Yo,
in my world.
And that is,
I love,
especially when he's wearing,
wearing the maroon,
like jumpsuit as baby group.
That's adorable.
Like just the little things where he's,
you know,
pressing the same,
pointing to the same button and rockets yelling at him.
It's just,
that's such good memories of that.
That's why I love that movie so much.
So you have two baby group fans here.
And then another Marvel thing.
She Hulk comes out next week.
Are we excited?
I am excited.
I am.
I don't know if the word cautiously optimistic is even,
cause I'm not even optimistic.
I'm cautiously.
Like ready,
I guess for it,
because I have,
there,
there's a lot of like like it seems like there's
already backlash brewing but that just might be people that's like it doesn't look great
yeah the humor can fall flat on its face or can power the show i also i think there's a chance
based on our conversation with jose which if anyone hasn't listened to it jose gave us a
full breakdown of everything that's coming in the next few phases of the mcu and a lot of the comic book stuff that
drives it and i do feel like we're gonna have some pretty cool cameos and i'm hoping marvel's just
gonna start again they have two minute fucking long uh credits for shorts just start throwing
big name actors that are playing big characters and let's just get like feel like we're living
in this universe where you don't know who's showing up give me something i think that is
gonna be maybe one of the things we could look forward to in this i feel like we're living in this universe where you don't know who's showing up. Give me some king. And I think that is going to be maybe one of the things we could look forward to in this.
I feel like I'm looking forward to, I feel bad saying it, but the non-She-Hulk stuff in She-Hulk the most.
Like breaking the fourth wall and possible Kevin Feige cameo.
The seeing Megan Thee Stallion playing herself just because I'm confused about that.
And I want to see how that fits into the mcu
fold uh the daredevil stuff the wong stuff the abomination stuff the mark ruffalo hulk stuff
yep like there's a lot of things to be excited about but every time i see she hulk in her she
hulk form there's part of me that goes oh so that is the final cgi like when the first trailer was
released i was like everyone chill out there's no way that's the final cgi yeah but it is and i saw a report that said on
twitter like marvel's thinking of redoing their cgi like uh outlook because they've had backlash
recently good like i think that that's always a good thing. Like not that fans should, should, you know,
cause this backlash and drive it,
but they're basically saying we want our CGI to look better.
Like, yeah, you should be driven to want that, that look at ILM,
like George Lucas,
the whole documentary just came out on Disney plus like the stuff that they
pushed forward to breakthrough. Like that's how breakthroughs happen.
Yeah. And you can't like when you're,
when you're the lead dog at Marvel,
you can't settle for,
for silver medals in anyone's eyes.
You have to be the leader of the pack.
Cause that's just what you are.
And I,
again,
trust a Feige,
trust the process.
Everything's going to be fine.
Hopefully she,
I'm not putting,
she hope definitely going to be fine though.
I'm just going to say that for the longterm,
big picture stuff.
It's like the Mets may lose a game, but with uncle Stevie in charge, everything's going to be fine though. I'm just going to say that. I'm just saying for the long-term big picture stuff, it's like the Mets may lose a game,
but with Uncle Stevie in charge,
everything's going to be all right.
I think it's a half an hour show as well.
I saw that.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Give me like 25 minutes with the,
because when we're reviewing stuff,
I'm just like,
man,
I can't really finish this right now.
Yeah.
House of the Dragon reviews are out.
Apparently it's better than Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad.
We're starting with, you know, short bars to clear here right now.
Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad, which might be in my Mount Rushmore.
I know Sopranos and The Wire are in there.
Those are probably the four.
Breaking Bad's my 1A.
And I don't know if I have a 1B.
Then it's your 1, Bob.
That's how 1A and 1B, you just said it's 1.
Yeah, but it's just even more.
Yeah, even higher than 1.
It's 1A.
It's like, it's a platinum medal.
It's not even on the stand.
It's so much better than everything else.
I like that.
I do think I have,
would you say Game of Thrones is in your Mount Rushmore
after the way they crashed the landing?
Because it's a fair no.
Because I also didn't have like I didn't have as much of a connection.
I didn't watch through the whole series.
I caught up and then just watched the season finale.
I watched an old episode one day.
I think I wasn't feeling good.
And I was like, you know what?
Let's just watch like it was the one.
Oh, it was after the goddamn dog walk draft where they didn't draft Cersei Lannister as an HBO character.
I was so mad.
So I watched the episode where she, the set bail or whatever.
And I was like, holy fuck.
That was so good.
I'm like, man, this show.
I like, they completely botched it, but it wasn't like on.
It's actually probably unwatchable garbage.
Listen, as a Star Wars fan, I'm used to like everything.
I love getting shit on at some point by a different series.
I'm going to get prequel Stan at me for that one.
But I am ready to give Game of Thrones another shot.
IndieWire said better than Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad.
I respect the clickbait game,
but you are doing the people that made House of the Dragon
no fucking favors by throwing that one out there.
And we're going to cover House of the Dragon on my mom's basement. So look forward to that. If you're a Game of the Dragon, no fucking favors by throwing that one out there. And we're going to cover House of the Dragon on my mom's basement.
So look forward to that.
If you're a Game of Thrones fan or if you know Game of Thrones fans that don't listen to the podcast, this could be your way to bond with them.
You know, you reach out to them.
You're like, hey, this podcast covers Game of Thrones.
Let's listen to it together.
Boom.
That's how we keep the basement lights on.
Going in the basement with the boys.
Yeah.
So I have been talking to Kevin for a few months about,
because he had been telling me, hey, I think we might be bringing Game of
Schools back, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, all right.
I said, if sales sells it and we get the podcast, we have the feed all there,
ready to rock and roll.
We covered six of the worst fucking episodes of television I ever had to
watch in my life for it.
And I guess we did pretty good numbers.
It would be good to watch a good show.
But I haven't heard anything, which is very Barst barstool right barstool will never change our internet
will always suck we'll never know what projects are actually going live until like the morning of
so kev said i said is it cool if we cover it in the basement because we're the fucking nerd show
and he said yep so hopefully we'll have kfc on i believe we said big daddy trent i'd love to have
i would love to have had coley on but that motherfucker is just ditching us. He's fucking...
He's red-wetting our ass.
Going into the wildlings.
A honker, too. A honker just left.
Yeah, he left us for the wildlings or wherever the fuck...
I don't even know where Coley's ending up.
But the honkers
will be competing in the next season
of The Dozen. I'll just say that.
So either going...
Are you going two-man or will a third be announced
at some point?
Is there
a third man? It's like the NWO.
I would
love to hear you be like, Mincy, should we just go
with two people or get three? I'll tell you, Bob,
I'll do it with two of us. Just me and you. It's all that
matters. You can get Mincy all into
a lather going from that.
We were talking about it before we went live. I don't know if we could that matters like you can get mincey all like into a lather going from that but yeah so i we were
talking about it before we went live i don't know if we could maybe do like a post show maybe a half
hour after the show ends just so we get our notes in order we go live on the the channel which would
be good for the channel and again if we have a couple barstool guests on i mean i forget that
me and me and charlie wisko were doing game of thrones recaps like season four or five it was
crazy he had all these awesome nicknames for me.
So shout out, Charlie Wisco.
Shout out, Charlie Wisco.
I haven't heard that name in a while.
That is a name.
That is a name I haven't heard in a while.
He's a Star Wars fan.
He's a good dude, my guy, Charlie Wisco.
So hopefully, if it's not back in Game of Thrones, it will be in the basement.
We'll have people on.
It's crazy.
It always boggles my mind that Barstool never like puts everything behind the biggest show on tv which was game of
thrones for like four years it was me and charlie wisco talking on a free soundcloud that we would
like create new accounts to get like another like six episodes worth of free uh you know internet
space so it's it's a little more official in the basement but still completely barstool we're flying
by the seat of our pants are you excited for this show right now like how are you one to
ten what are you right now uh seven seven i don't want to put myself like eight nine ten because
that makes me seem like a game of thrones diehard who's like constantly thinking about it it's not
like in a forefront of my brain but every time it comes up i'm very excited for it because i feel
like of course game of thr Thrones can be good again.
Like there's some people that are just like,
so out on this and up Game of Thrones is ruined.
And it's like, the fuck are you talking about?
That's like saying like, I'll never watch the Mandalorian
because I don't like the Phantom Menace.
What are you talking about?
Like, it's just, it's an awesome universe.
I want to see more in this universe.
It's got a good cast.
The effects look awesome.
Dragons fucking everywhere.
How are you going to be out on a show with dragons everywhere before you even see it?
I choose to believe when you say dragons fucking everywhere, you mean dragons fucking everywhere.
Like they're just banging in the background.
No, Bob's doing, that's what you got to do on YouTube.
You see Bob Fox do some sex hand stuff.
I am an eight and it's only because people who have read the, have the books which means spoilers are out there which I hate
and they said
this could be fucking awesome. The books
are great. George R.R. Martin is involved
so that's always a big thing.
When George R.R. Martin wasn't involved that's when
the show started falling off a cliff. He's
involved with all these. He's given
his blessing so far on what he's seen. He says
everything's good.
Trust George R.R. Martin was basically the old trust of foggy and then i think the way it's almost like with my guy
i don't want to compare daniel jones to the game of thrones because that's an absurd statement as
much as i love the dan wagon but daniel jones on the giants last year he was all right not great
uh like i thought the offense sucked but then when daniel jones got hurt they were the worst football team i've ever seen in my life that's what it looked like when
george rr martin left game of thrones they like turned into like the worst tv show we've ever
seen so with george rr martin in the fold i think i think we're gonna have a good show here so yeah
august 28th is when it when it debuts and uh we'll have it here in the basement either sunday
night or probably pretty early on Monday for you guys.
Unless someone at Barstool tells us we can't do it, then we're all fucked.
I went to a concert this week, Clem, on Tuesday night.
Game Time actually sent me to see Rage Against the Machine at the Garden.
It's the first time I ever saw Rage Against the Machine.
They've been broken up for like the majority of my adult life.
So it was a dream for a long time to see rage against the machine for me.
They've been broken up since I think 2011.
So it had been years.
They announced they were coming back in 2019.
They said, we're coming back in spring of 2020.
They did not come back in spring of 2020 or spring of 2021 or spring of 2022.
The tour kicked off this summer and it was an unbelievable show.
Thanks to Game Time.
I was there.
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That's the one I would recommend.
If you're listening to this, they have a couple more shows at MSG this week.
And then they unfortunately had to cancel all of the UK dates that they were about to go straight to the UK.
Zach De La Rocha fucked up his foot on the second night of tours.
So he was just sitting on a, a gearbox,
the whole show,
just sitting down Clem.
He brought more energy sitting than 99% of people bring standing him doing
the hand motions,
like rapping the songs,
the whole crowd bouncing up and down mosh pits.
I had two gay guys in front of me,
40 year old gay couple.
I want to say maybe 45.
They looked like they just bought
tickets to like get a new they were like we heard this is crazy so we're here didn't appear to be
rage against the machine fans they were taking videos of the mosh pits with these looks on their
faces like oh my god what the fuck they turned to the guy next to me right before the show started
they said i heard that they get a little political the guy next to me was like uh yeah
immediately it said like abort the supreme court on the screen they were like yeah okay yeah this
is a political show you're there you're here to see fuck the police the band you know it's it's
rage against the machine i always love when people say that about rage against the machine and it's
like you fucking morons what do you think the machine that they're raging against is? You goddamn morons.
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There's tons of concerts you could go see.
It's funny, too, because I think a lot of people –
I think KB said it the other day.
It's like a lot of people see us at the games,
but they don't realize it's just concerts, too.
Yeah.
Which I had known the Backstreet Boys tickets down to $20.
That's a fucking steal because that's a lot more than some of the other concerts. My wife is a diehard Backstreet Boys fan down to $20, that's a fucking steal because that's a lot more than some of the
other concerts. My wife is a diehard Backstreet Boys
fan, as you guys know. Dana White was
at Rage last night, and after
the show, Tim Comerford gave him his bass.
They all signed the bass and gave it to Dana White
as a present for him. Pretty badass.
His life is pretty good.
Yeah, it's not bad.
Let's do mid-year reviews for Marvel
and DC. Should we start with marvel or dc
we'll start with marvel because i feel like it might get mean with dc if we start with them and
then we're just like you know picking on them but i don't think it's actually gonna be as bad as i
think about the longer i think about it so i graded everything okay if like kind of school
grades for everything starting with moon knight Knight, I gave a B minus.
I think that's fair.
I wanted a little bit more out of Moon Knight.
I wanted more Moon Knight.
I wanted more Moon Knight.
Just give me more of the character Moon Knight.
It was a good show.
So it's still in the Bs because enjoyable show, Oscar Isaac, sick performance.
Ethan Hawke was great.
More Moon Knight is what I wanted.
I almost want to give it a C plus right now.
Or like even a C.
I thought about going there, but I was like, I'm not going to.
I'm thinking if you watch, all right,
what would you think you would have given Moon Knight
if you hadn't heard the Jose interview
that we were obviously in with him about Moon Knight?
I honestly wanted to give it like a D.
Like I didn't know what the fuck was going on.
But you know what's crazy is when we said that last time,
so many people were like,
Moon Knight was my second favorite MCU show.
Yeah, and that's true.
That's fair.
I'm going to say,
I feel like when I was watching it,
I was pretty cool with it.
The longer, it's been a while.
So B minus is fine though.
There's nothing to argue there.
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
I really flip-flopped a lot on this one,
but I wound up going with a b just a flat b
i'm right there with you i'm right there with i think i think we poisoned the well on dr strange
because it was the multiverse of madness we thought all these characters were going to come
in it it might have been that case if you know if it happened before covid or right after infinity
war or uh end game but i do think the last few years kind of maybe took a little of the shine off it,
but I still, that fucking,
the Illuminati scene was awesome.
I love it.
One of the best scenes in the MCU.
Ms. Marvel, I gave a C+.
I said just a notch below Moon Knight,
I would put it.
And again, it comes down to like,
it's just not made for us.
It's on a curve, right?
It's like, I'm sure if there's a 12-year-old basement boy or girl,
they should be in like fucking old losers.
They're calling Bob Fox an old loser.
How times have changed.
How times have changed.
If the show kept up the quality of the first episode, though,
the first two episodes, really, I think it would have been in the B range.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That definitely could have been
thor love and thunder i'm going b plus i don't i don't feel like i could put it in the a realm
but i i did like it just a tad better than dr strange in the multiverse of madness
i think because it was shorter it was maybe a little more it was definitely lighter um
i think that's fair.
I'm like, I'm almost one of between a B and a B plus.
It's like, you're putting the line for the plus.
It's like B with a little like I in it.
That's kind of where I stand.
And I talked about this with large on pop fathers.
Cause he had seen it and gave like a review on it.
Kind of off the cuff.
And he was like, that was a really like good, fun movie.
And if anything, I wish it was longer.
And again, we got the extra 10 minutes worth of gore and Jane plot
that would have maybe made it all tie together a little more.
Because at the end, I didn't feel like I was as,
I won't give anything away.
I won't spoil anything.
But I just think they could have done more.
So you felt more of a connection to the characters
when they went through what they were going through.
And then future announcements.
I gave kind of its own like grade.
And for that, I wrote A+. I think they nailed future announcements at comic-con fantastic for the only thing i guess x-men but we got some
x-men teased we got x-men 97 we know that's coming i i think they they nailed their announcements
i yeah uh that's like every time comic i saw people were being like how does marvel just
keep kicking
dc's ass in just the announcement portion you have the control of it you have you can do whatever
you want you have all this money behind it uh i think that's a fair grade to give just and again
this is coming from someone doesn't know a ton about some of this stuff if there was an x-men
based announcement i'd be like oh i'm excited for this except for that yeah i have no idea what
sacred evasions is i don't know what secret wars is i don't i'm still not sure after jose told me however if you go back
to our episode with the last one with jose where he breaks down everything from the face if you
just hear him go he just breathes heavy he just gets so fucking like amped up and excited i'm like
okay this is gonna be a lot of fun so uh i think an A, A+, whatever you want to give it, A-.
I think in the A realm, it's definitely in the A realm for all that kind of shit.
I'm also really excited for Kang because I really like Jonathan Majors.
The only thing is there's a lot of moving pieces with this.
Do you think they can nail them all down?
But again, Trustafagi is basically the motto of this podcast, so we have to.
All right.
Now, as a whole, Marvel made you review B?
B.
Yep.
I would say B.
Yeah.
And if it was maybe another studio, it could be higher.
There will be people who think it's lower because they expect more from Marvel too, right?
Yep.
So that's fair.
But I think a fair B. If you're adding in kind of like Doctor Strange and Thor are by no means –
I don't think –
Well, I think Doctor Strange is going to be much more of a bigger part of the MCU in these phases than he was in the past.
Actually, that's probably not fair to Thor either.
I was going to say they're not merely the main guys.
But now that Iron Man is gone, they are kind of the main guy shit.
So I could maybe see like were those movies you know i i hold every
marvel movie where it's a standalone not an avengers or even a guardians movie which are
like so close to my heart like iron man is kind of like the the peak they're not there but i'd
say they're probably a tier below you know that kind of that kind of level and now dc this one's
gonna get really interesting interesting very interesting because we're kicking it off with peacemaker,
which I'm giving an a plus to a plus a hundred percent a plus.
So like anyone that had,
you know,
any trouble in school,
I was pretty good in school.
Once I hit like end of high school and college,
I had a couple of semesters that were a little,
you know,
we had some,
some turbulence on the flight we'll say,
but you get that a plus that fucking is leading me right off the bat.
So, okay, DC is looking pretty good off the jump.
And then we get the Batman right away.
And again, I know you're probably not going to go as strong as I am,
but I'm going to go A+.
You're going to go A+.
I'm going to go – I have to try to think.
I think I was in like the – did I do the balls review of it?
I can't remember.
But I think I probably settled on a B when I look back at it now.
Yeah, I think it was around that for you, yeah.
Okay.
A plus and a B the first two months of the year?
Or when did that come out?
I mean, first three months of the year?
That was March.
I think that was like March 5th or something, yeah.
Like if this is a sports analogy, it's like, all right,
they beat the Patriots 56-0 week one,
and they beat the fucking Rams like 28-20 like we're having a good start so far and uh that's about it
my next thing i listed is just delayed all of their movies and for that i gave them a c and i
was being pretty nice about that to be honest bob fox is a very generous professor right there
because that
was nice that was like listen i know you have some troubles going on at home so yeah exactly
the kids coming in you can tell they haven't showered there's some dried up tears on their
face their eyes are red there's some shit going on above a failing grade for as long as i possibly
can here you know you know what you are? You're fucking Robin Williams of Go Hunting.
It's not your fault. Yeah.
It's not your fault.
It's not your fault.
Just give him a hug.
Ooh, okay.
And then canceled Batgirl, I gave them a D
because I wanted to go F,
but what I have listed last is an F,
and that's The Flash became an international terrorist.
And for that, I give you an F. That's an F. and for that i give you an f that's enough so if that's
the floor canceling batgirl has to be above that ezra miller is a fucking problem for the rest of
society he's an absolute menace to society right now so how do you grade a mid-year of you with an
a plus an a plus a c a d and an f and the F is like an F minus. Like it couldn't be a worse F.
That F counts towards like 50% of your grade point average.
Yeah, exactly.
And again, the A just carries your GPA.
The F just fucking destroys it.
It's almost at the point where,
I don't know if you ever did this.
You were only in college for a semester, right?
Yeah.
I don't know if you could even do this in high school.
But like when you know that bad things are going to happen,
you just drop the class after like a month or two and you're like,
Oh yeah.
You know?
And I did it in college once,
once or twice and it's probably,
it saved my GPA for sure.
And it got my parents off my back and they were like,
you know,
all right.
And you take a summer class,
easy peasy,
fucking do it online.
You can't really do that where you're just dropping the entire fucking cinematic catalog.
That's kind of a cheating way to go about, you know, getting your grades up here.
So you do have to be pretty, pretty tough.
We basically DC is the three dragon meme where it's the two fierce dragons, Peacemaker on one head, the Batman on the other.
And then the fucking dragon with like the cross eyes and the tongue out of his mouth is the entire rest of the cinematic universe.
It's unbelievable.
They've just completely botched that.
So,
uh,
I don't even know how you compute a grade when it's all said and done with
an A plus.
I have no idea.
I have no idea how you compute this grade.
Like give them a,
a C minus overall,
because I like,
they made one of my favorite movies,
maybe my favorite movie of the year,
and arguably my favorite television show of the year.
Yeah.
If I hadn't watched The Boys and got three seasons worth of content,
I'd say Peacemaker was my favorite. I have it above Peacemaker personally, but I was upset.
I mean, Wigwam.
Peacemaker, I feel like I could go back and re-watch the whole first season 100 and it'll be the show i look most like real probably my top three shows for
whenever it's announced for season two right and then the batman they laid the groundwork for what
should be uh you know unless they just cancel those movies down the road so that's the other
thing it's like if they do that i'm coming for them i can't yeah i can't trust you dc if dc was
in the barstool sportsbook I cannot responsibly bet
it to win week to week money line spread nothing I don't know what the fuck like are they gonna
show up every single week it's like oh no I'm not talking about like they may come out and play flat
I don't know if they're gonna show up for the game the visiting locker room will just be empty
because they just fucking stop playing what are we doing man. Yeah, they said don't show up for the game. We want a tax return.
Yeah, we want a tax return.
Oh, God. I haven't really
been, like, had my pulse on the
internet, or, like, I feel like nerds are just
losing their shit over this. Losing their shit?
Of course. Yeah, of course.
Always, yeah. They're gonna have to release another
Snyderverse or some sort of verse on us.
Well, they're gonna release the Batgirl thing.
Like, your brother, Mike Fox, sort of verse on us. Well, they're going to release the Batgirl thing. Like your brother, Mike Fox,
dropping fucking knowledge on us.
The 90s episode was one of my favorite episodes
because it was just an hour of pure,
hour and a half of pure uncut nostalgia.
But your brother coming out and saying
it was them who are,
everyone's going to say hashtag release Batgirl
and then they're going to release it.
It's going to do numbers that they never would
in a million years done if they did a regular release was one of the best
conspiracy theories I've ever heard by far. I mean, he's right.
Even if it's not a conspiracy, this
has brought more attention to Batgirl than
it ever had. So I
had no idea about again, this isn't saying much
after the first, you know, whatever the
of the episode, I had no idea Batgirl was even
being made. So when they canceled, all right,
one thing I'm not gonna have to review for my
mom's basement. This does go well into our first question here in the mailbag we have a couple questions
from the fans tom kinsley wrote in fix the dceu recast or retain the justice league members who
gets solo movies what's the major team-up storyline it leads to this is a good question it's i'm not
sure i have the answer to it solely
i thought they were headed in a good direction before ezra miller went and did you know what
he did with flashpoint because that's a good like multiverse type thing where you could
do this now at this point i'm like jesus christ i have no idea what you do i do like the idea of
retaining some of the justice league members but i think you got
to do it in a way where i think even though wonder woman 1984 stunk gal gadot i think is one of the
strongest members and one of the most recognizable members i think you keep her around as wonder
woman i would love for them to keep henry cavill around as superman i think he has a lot of fans
people like really want him to be superman he hasn't gotten the best opportunities at being
superman like especially i'd like to see him as a more positive superman or something this is going
to be not a popular statement i like ben affleck as batman i don't think he's that bad i think he's
had bad material but him in the role as batman bruce wayne i think it works i would keep him as
well i'd keep your, your Trinity there.
Jason Moe is Aquaman.
I would probably also keep the rest,
maybe recast,
which the rest meaning what,
like cyborg who will never do a DC movie ever again. Cause he hates DC and the flash.
So like,
I think you got to do something where what fuck you can't keep them all around maybe
you you can affleck because he doesn't seem like he wants to be around for the long run anyway you
get a new batman maybe you make keaton the batman there or you do batgirl instead or you do batman
beyond with keaton in that role but i think you got to do something where this dceu even though people will say it's disrespectful is revealed to be like not the main
dceu yes like you take some of the characters from it and they go over like they've failed
that's the overall mission is that like they failed dark side fucking takes over the dceu
destroys the world but they get into another world. Darkseid is still coming after them in the other multiverse, but they're able to, you know, try to save it this time.
And it's almost a meta thing of like we fucked up the first time, but we're going to try to fix it this time.
OK, so you're saying like a couple of the cast members that you keep survive that, but everyone you're not like Affleck's dead.
They survive it and have the memory of it like we can't fuck that up again we need to be more positive and and not as dark and wear more colors
i kind of i just love the checklist and what we're more close than what i'm all for just yeah
kill some people so you know all right this shit is real hard reset we go from there because again
it worked in the um in dr strange where it's like this fucking earth is now fucked now because their illuminati is got absolutely worked by
scarlet witch uh i mean let's be honest we throw james gunn in he's gonna fix this shit so we
could we could just do that again i couldn't even give you a director's i'd say throw like have
maybe like an illuminati for the dcu and. And you could probably tell me more people than I would know.
James Gunn would be on that if he's not the head honcho of it all.
Kevin Smith should be on the board at all times, right?
Has Kevin Smith had his fingerprints on any of this stuff that's been going on with DC?
Okay, so then we're good.
As a pretty casual DC fan, even though I liked the comic books growing up,
this is probably what every guy who's in charge of DC says,
but it's like, my thing would be like, let's fix Superman.
Let's fucking like make it, let's make a great movie.
And we're not going to stop.
A positive movie.
Yes.
Make it positive.
Not Superman snapping necks and ah.
Like he's Superman.
Give him a little fucking curl, put him in the blue thing. Give him the undies back.
Have him, you know, land a plane.
Do the fun stuff.
And you, like, watch.
All right.
The guy, whoever does the boys, that guy.
Fix fucking Superman.
Because you could be like, Superman at this point would be, like, beloved by people.
But then there'd be people who'd be like, this fucking, you know, corny motherfucker.
And he is.
He's like a heart of gold.
He's Mike Trout, right?
This guy is
awesome but like he probably turned some people off or they have all their conspiracy theories
just like everything else get a good lex luther boom superman fixed that the guy that fucking
made top gun maverick to make a superman movie there you go just a positive like you know it's
it's a movie by the end of it you just feel good leaving the theater like all right that was
fucking badass people literally cheering at the screen just because you know something fictional is
happening with a bunch of special effects i don't know much about this character but i feel like the
green lantern has to be like i feel like if they like the green lantern could be kind of your
springboard or maybe he isn't the biggest uh hero in the books but he's fucking well known and if
you get the right actor to play him, he can fucking crush.
They're doing a show.
They say they're doing a show.
I think JJ Abrams is involved.
A little green lantern show.
And I think a show is actually a good way to do it because there are other factions of lanterns.
The red lanterns, the yellow lantern.
Okay.
You'd almost do it Thrones like where it's like we have, you know, this faction's attacking us now.
We have to make peace with this faction.
Like, bring in the Justice League if you need to for a big event.
Like, Green Lantern is one that you got to capitalize on.
Doesn't really matter.
I don't think it matters what version you go with either.
I think there's multiple versions that are all very popular.
Hal Jordan and there's all different Lanterns.
But I think that's definitely correct.
Can you imagine
like think about what marvel did in the infinity saga and they did it with one hand behind their
back because they didn't have spider-man they didn't have spider-man for almost the entire
fucking time they didn't have the x-men they didn't have the fantastic four and they still
gave us their level i feel like before the mcu is one of their more famous heroes can you imagine
dc being like all, you can't use
Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman. Good luck.
And maybe it would have worked for them.
Yeah, no problem.
So that's why, like, when we say trust the 5E,
that's such a huge reason for it.
But it's like, you guys have all your people,
and again, just from the outside looking
and don't know much about the character. I feel like Green Lantern
is almost like the Iron Man of DC
where it's like, he's by no means like the number one or two guy there, but he's still fucking good. And if much about the character. I feel like Green Lantern is almost like the Iron Man of DC where it's like he's by no means
like the number one or two guy there,
but he's still fucking good.
And if you do the character right, it can be done.
And I just watched an entire series
with made up characters I've never heard of before
in the boys.
And I was fucking, my wife and I were both zoned in
the entire time and absolutely in love with it.
And whether this universe is a little cornier, a little more raw, whatever
it may be, you can do whatever you want, man.
It's 2022.
You throw this shit on stream.
You don't get a release in the theaters.
There's so many options to you.
Just make the right decision.
And again, we talked about it, like this whole thing with HBO Max and where these shows are
going, like whoever's in charge of that has to just stop fucking shit up, like make your
decision and go with it. And then, you then you know from there plug the puzzle pieces in uh burner 605
wrote in said how much would a ticket cost for jesus at red rocks very funny after the whole
ab thing um i i'll say this however much it would cost you could get 20 off that ticket at game time using promo code mmv how about that
my man bob always closing our guy peter fonseca wrote in marry fuck kill plane edition this one
was surprisingly tough the x-men blackbird the avengers quinjet and the batman batwing
now would it be tougher if i swapped one of these with the guardians ship
for milano yeah i i almost feel like i don't know i feel like you're going to choose batwing above
all right batwing is my mary of course and i think that's the most badass ship when he comes in with
it cuts the fucking balloons in batman 89 that that's my shit right there i also have to think it is a little more badass it's definitely more badass but it's also a solo ship
where the other three are like team ships so let's swap out bat the batwing for the milano is that
for you yeah yeah okay no for both of us you have to get it because i would try that one is my yeah
yeah yeah all right yeah there is something about being like a one-character thing that makes it like more awesome in all things.
So I feel like the X-Men one,
I just, that's probably just definitely my bias showing,
but I'm going to marry that.
And then the Avengers one is cooler.
The Milano has more character though.
I think that's kind of just like the Guardians movies
versus the Avengers movies.
But I guess I'm going to fuck the guardians and then i'm gonna kill the avengers
one uh the quadra but while also maintaining it's probably a much more fun uh ship to ride
what about yeah i i swap slightly i'm going to marry the milano i love the orange the character
the little uh side ship,
the escape pod that they go off in
Infinity War. They got it back too?
Did they give it a little bit of charm?
Even the interior, I feel like
we've had so many scenes there
that I'm so familiar with it, even when
they get trapped on it in Endgame and it's
just Tony Stark and Nebula
playing paper football and stuff.
I'm going to marry that.
I'm going to fuck the Blackbird, the X-Men ship.
And I hate to say it. Clip that line.
I hate to say it.
I'm going to kill the Quinjet.
I feel like the Quinjet is cool, but I don't know.
It's just a silver.
Like you said, it doesn't have a lot of character.
Yeah, there's something missing from it.
Maybe we'll get something that's a little cool.
Reminds me of that sad moment with the Hulk going off off in the quinjet and he's got the message from black widow
that's true we had a lot of emotional shit going on you know with the quinjet in our lives
and the thing is you think tony stark would have something a little cooler a little more
because i'm saying maybe the next avengers movie will have a cooler ship but i mean it's who's
gonna make something cooler than tony stark right? So that's the only thing that's a little bit close.
Maybe like Rocket Raccoon could help Bruce Banner.
That could work.
Okay.
Or maybe you get Ironheart in there.
Ironheart's a good tech genius, right?
I heard her show is going to be kind of like tech versus magic.
There's going to be supernatural elements.
The villain's called Red Hood, I think, but not like the other Red Hood. I think it's a different Red Hood. I don't know. But Agatha, also rumored to be supernatural elements the villains called red hood i think but not like the other red hood i think it's a different red hood i don't know but agatha also rumored to be in it
i don't know that's basically how you can like say most of the stuff in the next couple phases
that does feel like the old the last phase of marvel versus the new phase of marvel or it's
technology versus magic because we're definitely a lot more into the magical world right now
and then the final question from Ryan Baker,
Clem versus anyone on the sus list,
who would be the strongest person he could take down excluding Sparky?
Oh,
thank God.
Oh,
who would be the,
who would be the person on the sus list?
The strongest person that you could take down.
You could take down her from Wanda vision for sure.
He was on the sus list. He was on the sus list.
He was on the sus list.
You could fuck him up.
I think at one point Wanda was on the sus list.
Definitely could not fuck up Wanda.
No, not her.
Not going to be able to fuck up Agatha because I sniffed her out pretty quickly.
You be honest with me.
What about the guy from WandaVision, that asshole director that was like after her, taunting her with vision?
Oh, I could take that guy.
That guy is like low-key short.
He has like angry short man energy and stuff like that.
Like the bagel boss?
He comes up to you.
He says, you're not my god, oh my boss.
The bagel boss, that was one of the purest videos of all time he's an absolute
maniac and probably why don't you do something about it and the guy immediately does something
about it uh i'm all right you tell you be honest if i could take this person down and because i i
think i could but i also think this might be the most dangerous person on the entire list
could i take down this minute tell me the truth but the answer is no i could just tell my immediate instinct was yes and then
i thought about when she just popped up at the end in the he who remains castle yeah i was like
i mean what if you reach for her and she just like disappears yeah i'm gonna say no i'm gonna
say no i'm gonna say you reach for her she disappears and then there's a knife in your
back before you even know it.
Yeah.
She's like in my body and like claw climbs her way.
Yeah.
Which again,
alien.
Yeah.
Like comes out your chest.
It's a brutal death.
Yeah.
No.
So I guess her was the answer.
I think I can take her.
It would,
you can take,
yeah,
it would be a dust.
Herb was a big guy too.
That that's like,
that's a respectable,
that's like a dad fight you would get into with him.
Yeah. It's like, there's a video. You's like a dad fight you would get into with him. Yeah.
It's like,
there's a video.
You would actually have to blog it,
you know,
afterwards you'd be like dad's fight at softball game.
Just murdered a dad.
Cause you know,
he got mad at me for mowing my lawn at eight 55 instead of 9.
I am.
So I have a,
I have a murder rap.
I don't know if that'd be,
that'd be murder,
not manslaughter.
Manslaughter would be a mistake.
So yeah,
definitely.
Yeah.
Is there a hero or a villain named manslaughter? i thought that would be an awesome uh super villain name
that is pretty good right let's look up let's look up manslaughter comics
oh yeah manslaughter earth 616 oh we're in 616 too beautiful marvel. Marvel. Yeah. His name is Manslaughter.
Does he look metal?
Roger Loomis.
A little bit.
He actually wears like an interesting, it's almost like an eye patch he wears over his face, but with a hole cut out. So it's not an eye patch.
It doesn't actually cover his eye.
It's like an inverse eye patch?
Yeah.
It covers everything but the eye?
Yeah.
And he fights the defenders.
Okay. That's who he's after. like covers everything but the eye yeah and he he fights the defenders okay that that's that's
who he's after so he angel moon dragon valkyrie okay he fights valkyrie our girl this guy is
goofy as fuck bob yeah he's goofy looking he's really goofy looking i don't like this guy at
all he's snapping in the picture he is and not And not like Thanos snapping. No, no.
He's got a satchel.
He's got a purple satchel, a ribbon that looks like he won the number one ham at the festival.
I'm going to throw it on the YouTube here.
Can you see it?
Oh, yeah.
Look, I'm adding it to the stream.
Here we go.
That's Manslaughter, folks.
How did he get the name Manslaughter?
He has a lapel or something, and it's like some red coming out of it, which looks like a bullet wound. Wait, is his name manslaughter he has he has a lapel or something and it's like some red coming out of it which looks like a bullet wait is his name man's laughter it might be man's that would
make a lot more he looks way more like a man's laughter than a men's slaughter manslaughter
however um here there's a guy named manslaughter marsdale and bob different guy oh oh no this is manslaughter this is man can i put this can you put this manslaughter on the and Bob different guy. Oh, Oh no, this is manslaughter.
Can I put this?
Can you put this manslaughter on the screen?
I'll put this one up right now.
This is the guy,
um,
that should be,
uh,
I don't know what his,
what his bio says,
but this guy is,
is exactly what I'm,
what I think manslaughter.
This guy is a bad ass shit right here.
This is almost like a Kingpin.
Yes.
He has breast knuckles on both ends
yeah amazing spider-man uh first appearance as well he's a spider-man villain so he's not going
for you know the random heroes here and there he's going for fucking spider-man that that's
manslaughter it's kind of bullshit that he has to throw the name at the end manslaughter marsdale
it's like one in one a as it's like when you join the screen actors guild yeah like you gotta have d-low michael b jordan yeah yeah that's that's the real manslaughter
on this podcast he needs to kill the original manslaughter then take his name that's big
because they're both that'll be 616 we'll go to marvel one day to pitch them a comic and that'll
be our pitch it's just a manslaughter story. I guarantee if I get to be like,
yes, I've been thinking that for years, guys.
It's just like manslaughter.
He's got the fucking brass knuckles on both hands.
Yeah!
Manslaughter Marsdale.
All right.
Should we do hashtag manslaughter?
That seems a bit dark.
Probably not.
Fuck it.
Let's get dark.
Manslaughter.
I mean, there's going to be some harsh results
coming up when we do that.
Don't click the hashtag, though.
Don't click the hashtag, but if you made it to the end, you know, hashtag Manslaughter.
Thank you for listening to this grab bag edition of the show.
I had a blast.
This was a lot of fun.
I want to see everyone's grades for Marvel and DC.
You give us what you think.
Like the video.
And Star Wars.
Give us your Star Wars.
We'll do that on a...
We'll do a Star Wars.
Have we...
Obi-Wan, I guess, is the only thing.
Is that the only thing?
It was just...
Okay, I thought we had something else.
Okay, yeah.
So I don't think that's worth...
Definitely not worth it.
Great, because it's just the Obi-Wan.
Great.
So yeah, give us your DC and Marvel reviews.
Andor came out soon in September.
Andor looks sick.
We'll have a...
We'll have a Star Wars end-of-year review
based on everything.
If there's two other projects or something. And of course, a Marvel end-of-year review. A DC, too. Are we getting Shazam by wars end of year review based on everything if there's if there's two other projects or something and of course a marvel end year review a dc2 are we getting shazam by the
end of this year looks okay if we are it's going to get taken off we've i've learned i've learned
enough with dc marvel we got wakanda forever which looks fucking incredible yeah that's gonna be and
the halloween special i think and yeah obviously next week so oh wait is it the christmas it's a
christmas special christmas special
christmas special too i forgot about that but i believe halloween specials coming this year
for who werewolf by night whoa and it's directed and it's directed by michael giacino who's the
the score guy for the batman and spider-. Okay. All right. So we have,
I think it's this year.
I think,
I don't think I'm mistaken.
Could be this year.
Marvel just has shit on the calendar,
which puts it safely ahead of DC and the bigger,
in the big content race of a comic,
the comic content race.
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