My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 234 - 'ANDOR' EPISODE 4 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

Robbie and Clem discuss Episode 4 of 'Andor', aka THE CLEM EPISODE! Mon Mothma returns to the Star Wars galaxy! We revisit a familiar planet from the prequels! Luthen wears a wig! 3Chi: Use code STOOL5 at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Gametime: Download the app and use promo code BASEMENT for $20 off your first purchase! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to another episode of My Mom's Basement presented by 3Chi and Barstool Sports, and another Andor edition of My Mom's Basement. This is Andor episode 4, the Clem episode. Ken, Jack, and Jeff told us, oh Clemm's going to love this episode. Clem's going to love it. We're like, what the fuck did that mean? It means when they say and or, pick an alias, what are you going to go with?

He goes, Clem. If you got to be a guy that's staying under the radar, just a cool, quiet guy, just go with Clem. No one ever questions a Clem. They always embrace a Clem. Just let them into the thing.

You guys say I'm like a nice guy. I'm actually like the biggest asshole, but I'm a Clem. So you guys are like, oh, he's such a nice guy. He's a Clem. You just kind of just push me in the background. That's what us Clems like to do. So shout out to Clem Andor for, you know, becoming part of the family here. I loved all the tweets I got this week from people being like, they got to be listeners. They got to be basement boys, whatever. I will say they did have later in the episode protocol 037 and it's not as on the dot but that is my number because of kevin smith and the kevin smith movies and the whole 37 thing like my you know nobody listened to this uh if you ever see my luggage out there

but my little combination there is 037 oh there we go i i i'm gonna say that not only is the you know showrunners or the basement boys, they are diehards, and they knew that for a fact. And that's why they threw Clem and 037 in there. And I look forward to see what other references to our lives they're going to include from the rest of this season. Which, by the way, the series, first three episodes, I think I told you I liked it.

It was a lot to take in. This episode is like, all right, this is going to probably be the show for me in Star Wars. I was very, very, very happy with this episode. I got the text from you afterwards. Like, God damn, that was a great episode. Like all name bias aside, take that away. I still love it.

That's the thing. Cause I was like, I was like, but I was just going to think I liked it because of the name. If the name never came up, you just got a different vibe from the jump of the episode. i was like oh this isn't we said the last the last few like this feels like a hbo hbo star wars or something like that right and this felt like that and like that and it founded upon you don't hear people talk like this in star wars usually and i really did appreciate it so i'm very very excited for uh what we have ahead of us It was a lot to take in last week, too. Three episodes in a row. That was a lot.

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Luthen, again, is Stellan Skarsgård's character. He goes into hyperdrive. It kind of stuns Cassian. And then they have this conversation about what's next for Cassian. And he gives them the choice. I could drop you off on a rock planet and fend for yourself figure everything out or i have this risky mission but it pays 200 000 credits which is like more credits than andor's ever imagined he would come across in his lifetime and luthan has a great line when andor doesn't really want to go along with the mission or whatever he's like yeah drop me off he's like i'm not in in this fight for whatever I don't want to join the fight. Luthen says, no matter what you tell me or tell yourself,

you'll ultimately die fighting these bastards. Wouldn't you rather give it all at once for something real? And that kind of flips the switch in Andor's mind. He accepts the mission. And us knowing what we know about this character, where he ends up in Rogue One, it makes that line hit so much harder because you're like, oh, we, we also know like you are going to die fighting these bastards, but it's going to be for

something meaningful. So we knew what he was going to do, but he didn't know what he was going to do and the way they played it was great. It kind of made his, like his character in Rogue One and just Rogue One in general, just kind of like made it better right it kind of like i've seen this growth now and how how it all uh you know relates and goes down the road and first of all the i think this music was different to start the episode right i feel like the music it's been different week to week yeah this one i just wrote they got me hyped i was really hyped as soon as it was over and i was like shit i don't think that was musical at least for the first few um the line he's like you're bleeding on my floor and he's kind of like giving him tough love and everything he's like clean yourself up your arm's all fucked up um and the fact that it was just great dialogue

it was just back and forth and it it felt like there was more at stake than just this you know encounter between these two guys there was more at stake for the galaxy um the thing where he's like i know you were a cook and it's like wait what and yeah i think he's a good guy i still think he's a good guy so do i don't know especially after seeing the scene later on in the episode where he's like trying to get that money out of mon mothma for the rebellion i'm like all right you're probably a fucking good guy and he's also so paranoid about outside influence and stuff um i have a question for you though and or uses mednog in this scene what do you think mednog tastes like you know i was thinking the same thing because if you notice when he goes mednog and he gives it to him he takes the swing and 99 of the time on a show like that the guy's gonna cool or you know

i was so my initial thought was like a little bit of nyquil with like kind of that's what i was thinking the uh vape the vapes uh what's a vicks vapor rub kind of like a little bit of that going down your throat too where it's like that cooling sensation that's what i think that's pretty accurate if i had to imagine it yeah i was expecting like medicine cough medicine like something like that do you maybe comes in grape and orange those are the two flavors has yeah that's a good and you just call it purple right as a kid yeah of course now this is my question has mednog ever been in the star wars universe before have we ever oh i don't know it's the first time i heard it because it's

stuck out to me when they said i was like oh mednog interesting and i liked it i liked it it was like very basic and i'm like okay i feel like we i feel like there's like legitimate world building going on right i'm i'm listen i don't i don't know what the reception of this fucking show is and i'm so tired it's been good it's been it's been good yeah it's been very well received i've seen now this is interesting critics love it fans mostly love it some people think it's boring which i also like not that i understand because i don't think it's boring i'm so into the star wars universe that every little nugget they give us i'm like holy shit this is cool but it's a it's a deliberate slow burn yeah i for me the first three episode had boring moments this one i i was

completely engaged and we said it uh i don't know if you said on text or on uh on here but there is some thrones kind of stuff and it's politics and it's people whose jobs and how it's going to impact other people and there's people trying to move up the ladder and that's exactly i didn't even know if a star wars show could deliver on something like that because it's such an antiquated it feels like it's you're turning a battleship in the ocean trying to make any little change to the star wars universe and i do feel like we have this here so mednog it's nothing crazy but it's like all right we added that in it makes sense let's just get this out in the open put our cards down bob with this this might be the most controversial thing that goes on eggnog yay, yay or nay for Bob Fox?

I think we've talked about this before. I'm not sure I've ever had it. Maybe I tried it once because it was the same thing where I was like, oh, I've never had it. Let me try it once. I don't remember thinking it was gross or anything. So, like, I don't know. I think I would think it's gross, though.

I think you're a meh. You're a meh. You don't know yet. Yeah. I don't know i think i would think it's gross though i think you're a man you're a man you don't know yet yeah i don't i i am a hard nay i've only had it a few times i don't like the taste of eggs though and i think that's a problem for eggs in general like you don't like eggs in the morning so i like eggs i do not like just eggs so i gotta throw some bacon on there or some cheese i just don't like the taste of just plain old eggs that's kind of where you're getting an egg now now people are going to tell me hey clem throw some bacon on there or some cheese. I just don't like the taste of just plain old eggs. That's kind of where you're getting an eggnog. Now, people are going to tell me, hey, Clem, throw some nutmeg in there. Throw some cinnamon, whatever the fuck they have. Throw some booze.

That's like people saying, I like grilled cheese when you dip it. Or I like tomato soup when you dunk grilled cheese in it. Well, yeah, everything's fucking good when you dunk grilled cheese in it. So in terms of me, I am big time anti-eggnog. Rob is very meh on Eggnog. I think Smitty used to always call it Elfcom and stuff like that.

I think that's a very Smitty thing. That's where the Basin Boys stand. Mednog, however, I would love it if that was at fucking Disney in a few years and Star Wars Land. Oh yeah. It's like for the adults that are hung over yeah it's like liquid iv or something oh they have that at costco they

have the free samples for like the liquid ivs that they have now it's you know you your electrolytes go through the roof and that shit tastes so good that's basically what med not yeah i know we were sponsored by that i don't know barstool might have that as a sponsor still, Liquid IV. And the lemon lime they had, this isn't a sponsored podcast, was so fucking good that I would, like, obviously I'm never coming to the office hungover, but I was drinking it every day. Just because it was better than water, in my opinion. I'm one of those guys who's not into water. Oh, God. I could just, not a water guy? I got to put some Mio in it. I got to do something to the water. Like the water here, there's a water here. I got to put some Mio in it.

I got to do something to the wall. Like the water here. There's a water here. I wouldn't even touch it. I'm a big, I become a big water guys. I've gotten older. I wasn't a water guy.

Probably like with death. They're, they're my mom's basement sponsor. When they send the things, when I crack a can of water, there's something different about it. They're also not a sponsor in this episode. Everyone's getting free ads on this episode.

Let's talk about Andrew. Let's move on with Andor. So I stopped giving free ads out. He gets dropped off on Aldani. That's free ads on this episode let's talk about and let's move on with andor so i stopped giving free ads out he gets dropped off on aldani that's the name of this planet under the name clem like i said uh luthan tells him pick an alias for this mission that you're about to go on and he goes with clem which is an amazing moment it's i'm sure all the listeners were pointing to the screen like leo when they saw that and spelled the same too i love that it was spelled clem there's nothing different i am canon in the mini star wars universe speaking of star wars names we meet vel right and i kind of realized with this episode between vel and dedra that the

key to i think writing star wars names at least for this writer is taking normal names like val and deborah and just switching up one letter vel Val, Debra, you know what I mean? Oh, what was the mom's name? Marva. Marva instead of Martha. Is that not what this writer did? Robbie, fuck. This is why you guys are figuring out the writer's style and how he's naming his Star Wars characters.

And again, Star Wars has some of the greatest names to characters and they're super creative this one they're they're not taking chances they're taking chances a lot of other places he's like let's play this one close i'm like he's not throwing lando calrissian at him right he's just giving us the little ones by the way i'll give us a rab yeah and he just he's like listen i'm not even gonna try to fuck with club i'm just gonna keep it basic here we could do that we did we did join the long take with uh ken jack and gooch so if anyone wants to listen that we drafted our star wars characters and mine was straight up old man draft it was the most it was a fun draft though that was a really funny episode of that so check

that out if you guys want to uh it's on the. It's on the Lights, Camera, Barstool YouTube channel. If you go under the long take. I did ask, I think I mentioned this on the podcast at one point. I asked Michael Waldron, like, hey, man, are you having a blast writing wild Star Wars names? Like, what's your take on it? And he said to me, he's like, you got to just write names where you go, yeah, I know this is ridiculous. But that's what the universe is. If you heard some of the Star Wars names for the first time, you would be like, what? That's a real character name, but that's Star Wars for you.

If you heard all of the Star Wars names for the first time, even Luke Skywalker, it's like, all right, that's a little much right there. It's like this is Babu Frick. And you're like, of course it is, yeah. Obi-Wan Kenobi. Everything is, but it's just, it's so perfect. And it's like, even the Max Rebo is a basic name. Still kind of a weird, funky name. That's a little, everything has some funk on it.

That's the one thing about Star Wars. It's got a little bit of funk in Star Wars. That's right. That woman was 70s, early 80s funk. Yes, exactly. What's the girl's name? Val. I was trying to figure out who she looked like.

If you put Bradley Cooper in a blonde wig, I think there's some Bradley Cooper. Go back and watch it. That's what I wrote down. She looks like an actress, a different actress. I thought you were going to say what I wrote. I got certain vibes from her. Not really her look. Her look a little bit, but more her personality.

I got Sylvie vibes. Yes. Yeah, I can definitely get. And I guess a little bit her look. She had blonde hair, but that's kind of as far as the look goes. Yeah, I can get down with that. I got Sylvie vibes, though, because she's like not into the mission at first. They're trying to add Cassie into the mission as Clem, of course.

And Luthen says, like, she's going to argue with me at first, but we'll convince her. And he does convince her. She has this whole team that's working on the mission. Her and Cassian walk back to them. They see the TIE fighters. I thought that was a cool scene when she's like, get down. They get down and you just hear them like screaming from afar. You know, that screech of a TIE fighter.

And she tells them, this is our whole thing. There's some settlers here that weren't driven out by the Empire. These nature freaks, they love it. So we're under disguises then. And if there's any fans of the bear, you absolutely recognized the cousin right away and couldn't unsee him as the cousin. I think they digitally gave him White Walker eyes just so it would be a little different. Because the whole episode, you had to be thinking what I was thinking right dude i was just staring at him and it was early when i was watching this and i'm like this motherfucker i was like he's he's the older brother

or something i couldn't put my and i just watched the bear like three weeks ago too it's not like and by the way if anyone's seen it big fan of it i said when rico and dante blogged the same blog basically at the same time saying go watch the bear was the weirdest coincidence i've ever seen at barstool i was like well if two people tell me to watch it who don't even know each other or you know interact with each other i have to watch it and i absolutely love the bear um this guy just plays like the skeptical asshole like he is being typecast really quickly but he fucking nails the role this group in general before i even met them i wrote down the note it feels like oceans 11 we're like we're changing the plan like we're

about to go off and it feels like spoiler for ocean 11 is like 20 something years old when they're he's out he can't be out danny's out so i i kind of like that i'll cleanse just pops in like what is it three days before the plan is supposed to go off and she tells the team that it's not she's like oh yeah he's a mercenary that like this has been the plan all along basically because she is like afraid that if she tells them she's making the addition this late that they're all going to be like whoa what the fuck like we're about to go do this huge thing and there's only seven of them and we know it's like a huge endeavor this kind of heist that they're pulling off here. And one of the writers, I think it was maybe this is a rival site.

So maybe I shouldn't be giving him the shout out. I was going to say the ringer. No, it's not on the ringer. Might have been Vulture, one of the other sites they wrote. It makes sense that Cassian says in Rogue One, let's make 10 of us feel like 100 or whatever at the end. Because he's had experience doing that kind of stuff. They're giving him the experience that he obviously has in Rogue One, because he's a pretty confident, like, member of the Rebellion in Rogue One. At that point, Jyn Erso was kind of in his role in this series, where she's the, whoa, I'm coming

into this, and I don't know what's what, but yeah, sure, I'll help you out if it means, you know, doing the right thing. I like that too. I was seeing the same thing. Oh, so I'm like, oh, he's going to be basically doing this down the road and you're just seeing him basically at zero. So he's going to keep leveling up from that, especially like with this group of, of like almost wildlings and stuff. It's like, I'm sure the technology that he's doing missions with is going to advance with

that as well. But it's like, he's probably familiar with these people. It with that as well but it's like he's probably familiar with these people it's kind of like the people he grew up with on canary not that they're they don't know anything about technology they got the pads and everything but it's just more of a grassy setup yeah and it feels grassroots i guess is the way to put it we're always between this and then like i said the canary feels like it's this rag tag and it's you know the the native people are just being just run over by the Empire. And this is part of the group that's trying to, you know, take it back here.

The group in general. No, that was the thing. So I'm going to keep forgetting his name. The guy from Thor and the good one. Stellan Skarsgård, Luthen. Luthen. Which is also Luther. Oh, yeah, that's Luthor Okay

As we go through this guys We're going to realize more of these Yeah, I can't wait We should all look forward to the next episode That's Fike They just named him Mike He was like

Listen, you have to do it this way you have to say it was your idea you were always going to do it don't blame me and i was like all right boys i'm not going to spill the beans like he had me fucking invested i felt ready i was like let's rock and roll we can't let the guys know of course we have three days here three days to burn we can't be telling them we're changing the mission so it's just stuff like that where it's it's like instead it's really like oh this is clumb he wants to help us they made you feel like there was a lot of pieces at work here and it's like you're dealing with human emotions and stuff again a little deeper than some of the emotions we've had in star wars i'll just leave it at that and what you said

there about the rebels being this ragtag group and how it feels so ragtag and this really comes to play in this next scene this next scene was my favorite in the episode i loved it luthan goes and he puts on a wig he puts on some rings and he puts on a robe and he kind of like gets into character he practices smiles like like laughing in the mirror and stuff and then he walks out we meet mon mothma in this show she gets out there's the same actress that played her in the prequels in Rogue One. Great actress. This is probably the most that she's got to do as Mon Mothma because, you know, she has these little short scenes and everything.

But she gets like a full meeting with Luthan. And it's under the guise of she's buying her husband an antique. He runs an quote-unquote antique shop that's like a front for the rebellion. And this is his personality because they're not really sure who's who. They're not sure who's talking to who. She's got a new driver that she's even paranoid of. So he has his assistant distract the driver. They go to the back, and he's like, you're the fucking senator.

Can you not get us more money? She's like, I'm trying. It's getting harder and harder. Like, I'm trying to pull the funds but i can't right now like i'm getting watched that there's eyes everywhere and they look at the driver and it's just played so tense and it shows how ragtag the rebels are at this point and it's like the earliest incarnation of the rebels we could see it feels like there's only a couple rebels and like this senator is like putting her neck

out for them it's it's a really really well done scene even cinematography wise the way like the focus goes in and out of the driver in the back this was my favorite moment of the episode yeah first when we first saw him and he's putting the um rings on he's putting the wig and he's changing his outfit my heart sank i'm like all the sus list strikes again i was no and he's changing his outfit. My heart sank. I'm like, Oh, the sus list strikes again. I was no good. He's changing. I'm like, I'm trying to figure out his angle. I'm like,

is he just leading these people into the slaughter right now? You know? And then obviously it turns out and just the whole thing where, and it almost looked like a playboy. I was like, are we getting some Hugh Hefner vibe? I was about to see from him going to the planet. And then obviously we see him on mothma and it was even a

little bit i got uh some of the collector vibes with all the shit he had totally i got those same vibes yeah and then did you notice how mom mothma she was talking she's like i have someone and they're like talking about different people they know and i'm like this feels like one of those star wars we're gonna get one of those fan service-y kind of moments potentially. It sort of did, and it makes me think Saw Gerrera, because we know he's going to be in the show. Could he be the one that she wants to add? And obviously he's not really like with the Rebels at the end. He's helping the Rebels, but in Rogue One,

I think they said he was like a little too extremist, a little too extreme, and they were like, okay, chill out, dude. So they kind of cast him aside. I think that's what they said in Rogue One. That's who came to mind, though. And Luthan is like, chill out, dude. So they kind of cast him aside. I think that's what they said in Rogue One. That's who came to mind, though. And Luthan is like, don't do that. He's like, we got enough as it is. Like, we just need money, not more people, because we don't trust anybody.

And there is that looming sense of anxiety in the whole show, which I like, of like, you don't know who to trust because we can't trust anybody. And we're going to see some shit at some point. Those side-eyed looks and everything are going to come back, and these people are going to get captured, tortured, whatever it may be, or just have their plan blow up in their face because that's just kind of how the Star Wars world looks. But you said it perfectly. This rebellion that was in full force by the time we got to meet it in A New Hope, it's just so funny seeing it in its infancy right now.

It's crazy. The way you said that almost sounded like when, who was the quarterback cam? Was it that says just so funny to hear a woman talking about lines. It's like, what did you do, dude? Cam's in his own world.

Yeah. That guy, that guy just said some, he said some dumb stuff after that too, where you're like, what in the world? Who raised you, man? He dresses like this guy does too so he's in his own world cam newton might be he goes to luthan's shop yeah mon mothman goes home and i in my note says her douchebag husband set up a dinner with people she hates and he also doesn't like that she's speaking out against

starvation i believe he mentioned that That was a tough scene Like there is not a lot of love in that At first I thought this guy was like her Like shitty assistant or something The fact that this is a marriage Yikes they are Not lasting for long I'm going to make that prediction I had some angles

I thought it was MacGruber I thought she was married to MacGruber I'm like wait a minute are you I always get them confused he's not will arnett it's well i think it is no no is it will wait no it's not is it yeah will arnett's the one no no it's not because will arnett's the one that was with amy poehler he played lego batman he's uh uh my beloved arrested development mcgruber will forte i always get those games messed up. Another funny guy, though. Will Forte is a funny dude. Yeah. This guy, not so funny.

That's how I knew it wasn't Will Forte. And she's like, what a fucking line. She's like, oh, I heard you got me a gift. She's like, yeah, I'm returning it. Oh! Did you ever get a gift or your parents said they were going to get you something and then it's like it's going back to the store? I mean, they probably threatened it.

I know I've threatened my kids with it already. Thinking back, nothing comes to mind like that. No. I think I've always threatened with it. I don't know if I ever got anything returned, but man, that is You know, I got something returned, but it wasn't like, it wasn't like animosity out of my mom or anything. It was a bass.

My first bass, I ordered a flying V and it was just way too big for me. I thought it was cool because it was a cool-shaped guitar and everything, but I was like, I want to keep it. My mom was like, no, we're sending it back. We're getting you a base your size. Let's hear Mama Fox's explaining that to you. She's like, Rob, it's half the size of you. Come on, it's double the size of you.

Look at it. No way you can pick that up. Your back is going to be killing you. It's so unfair, Mom. And Come on. It's double the size of you. Look at it. No way you can pick that up. Your back is going to be killing you. It's so unfair, Mom. And then Mike's just coming down. I bet Mike seems like the kind of older brother who was like, I got it, Mom. And he can talk some sense into you. Exactly.

Also help you. Yeah. He would put his hand on my shoulder and be like, dude, you got to get a base your size. And be like, you're right. You're right. And then we wound up getting a, I believe my first base was like an i bet as micro base because we needed a small one there we go mama knows best as always in case you guys didn't know that already um on coruscant we actually go back to coruscant now i love that yeah we see just a great speech from one of the imperial officers

one of the guys in the in charge and they're talking about what they are and he's he goes on this great tirade about we are health care providers we find a germ and we eliminate it whatever the casting of all of these imps amazing their their faces they're they're so original trilogy there was one guy he looked like so sucked out he looked almost like tarkin he was talking to dedra later but we meet this girl deadra she asked about the star path unit that was stolen on ferrix this is the one that cassian was trying to sell to get off the planet uh it belonged to her or at least like she you know her unit her people whatever she's looking for it she's told to knock it off very much like cyril karn who by the way now lives with his mother

because him and all of his security officers got fired and shut down because the imperials found out about what happened and they were like they were fucking in the words of frank the tank incompetent down there so we need to go send them home and he goes home to his mom she smacks him in the face and then she gives him a hug and takes him back in but she is definitely on a collision course with him in my mind where they're both being told hey no don't look into this don't look into this and they're both getting more and more uh vicious with their actual vengeance towards andor yeah there's a little bit they're jaded towards stuff they're the job and just the way everything is corporate reamings didn't see that becoming like a thing in star wars but again my guy the older dude who was kind of like listen just let it slide this is exactly what

happened he they took a chunk of flesh off of him as well he was like but i wasn't even involved and they're like exactly fucking. You fucking moron. The Dave Bordeaux show had a couple of moments this week where it was like Dave's talking to an employee. And the employee just kept digging into something. He's like, stop, man. You're just doing it worse. That was tough. This is the way for any Barstool employees that are watching.

This is the way. This is the way. This is the way you handle Dave if he's yelling at you. You go like this. This is your lights this is the way you handle dave if he's yelling at you you go like this this is your lightsaber the obi-wan kenobi you just put it in front of your head and just let him strike you down and you just turn into nothing that's what you do there's no fight i believe the employee we're talking about did come in at one point at the end and he was just like all right good like no doubt and like left immediately and i was like yes yes someone talked to him in between that and you know, 20 minutes ago and just said, yeah, exactly. You got to take it. I'm sorry. I love that corporate employee for the, for the, for the, for the record here. He's one of my guys. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. It won't happen again. That's all

you say. Also the other guy, I might've said this last week, Devlin told me in between recordings, I think, uh, the other guy, not the corporate guy, but the one that was like kind of crazy, stocky dude. Commissioner Gordon from the Batman, or not Gordon, the previous commissioner from the Batman before Gordon gets that job. Where he walks in, he's like, you got this freak in my crime scene. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He kind of has a high-pitched voice in that. And I'll tell you this. We're going back to Coruscant.

The guy who's talking about germs, you know who that is? He's from Thrones, right? Yeah. Qyburn. He's Cersei's personal maester or whatever that revives the mountain and does all that weird. Perfect casting to put him in an Imperial uniform in Star Wars. He is basically the cousin from the bear version of like Thrones version of that. So the fact they had them both in this. And that is how i like to think of the empire the empire is like listen we're the

empire we're motherfuckers we're assholes and these people that are they're the germs we're trying to eliminate them before it becomes like a full-blown disease or whatever i liked everything about this goddamn we're talking quarterly reports and i don't want to blow my brains out they did a good job with all this stuff and also you get to see like the dynamic of how the empire underestimated the rebellion because you have this lieutenant or whatever she is dedra reporting to her leaders like hey i think this is like a string of rebel activity and they're like get the fuck out of here you're crazy woman get out of my office and it's like they didn't see any of it going that's how the rebels got to get to the level there that they were at by like a new hope it's almost a snowball effect starting with andor it's showing us the beginning of that whole war the way this show works is great and

there's also that other lieutenant lieutenant blevin uh who clearly doesn't like Deirdre. When they go to the officer together, he speaks out against her. He argues and he wins pretty much. And the guy's like, listen, there's a reason we hire like people like you. It's not this or something. He makes a weird comment that almost sounded a little sexist. I don't know. Yeah, there was something there was a little edge to it for sure. And I mean, I am, I am looking forward to next week's and or more than more than most star

wars, because we are building a story here where Mando was awesome, but it was like every week it was like, Oh, this is, it was kind of, it was there. There were episodes that were disconnected, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that's fine. That's what they have. They built the show. But for this, I want to see how this one builds up. And again, the way that they discussed everything, it just felt like they were really creating

a world. And I know I always say I don't like going to the same old planets, but Coruscant's one of those places I can't get enough. I was always like, I've heard a lot. We haven't been there a ton, though, either. The only time I can think of in live action other than the prequels, obviously, where it was brought brought in and made famous was.

Obi-Wan, right, that one scene, that one flashback scene with the de-aged Hayden, and that wasn't. Yeah, you got to see the city that was like, you know, you got to see the skyline more. And I just I it's something that I've always loved that planet. So agreed. It's one of my favorite. Very always loved that planet. So, um, agreed. It's one of my favorites. I'm very happy we're back. We're back here. That would be awesome.

If the future Disney star Wars land, they could like make like a cityscape, like Coruscant. Oh, that'd be dope. That'd be dope. Um, the episode ends with a big cliffhanger towards next week where they're talking about the plan on Aldani around the fire. They give him like the Aldani phrase book. They're like like learn our whole playbook by tomorrow basically and the group's going to go undercover as imperials and they're

going to steal the entire quarterly payroll from a whole imperial sector on the night of a celestial meter meteor shower event they're using that as cover to get away there's gonna be billions of meteors flying across the sky uh i'm sure we saw a little bit of this in the trailer because someone posted that on Twitter. But I can't wait to see the full, like, meteor shower in the sky because visually Andor has been pretty awesome so far. The sets in this episode and everything, you can tell there's a lot of physical sets, which I loved. So I'm very excited to see what they bring with that. Yeah, I think I was like, I could see there would be a chance to call them for some reason the shower

didn't show up or something like that. I want to see full blown shit in 4k. Let me see it go crazy. Let's get fun. Let's get like, let's get funky. I'm sure the budget is not cheap on Andor. I'm sure. So let's have some fun with it. And like you said, even like the, um, they're just the

TIE fighters flying by and hearing that screech that was so fucking awesome man so i'd like to see what they have with this meteor shower as well i hope we get a good visual of that a question i wrote down just in general for this show what can you do to make cassie and andor's death in rogue one feel more meaningful because i feel like that's part of this show right is the criticism of rogue one is that like nobody really cared about most of the characters by the end of it like you you met him and they died pretty quick there's got to be part of them in writing the show tony gilroy who was involved in both going let's make people want to be sad at that moment let's make people

like feel that a little more with the show so in my mind you kind of like give him a tragic story over the the two seasons where it's like you build him up you build up his friendships maybe you give him a relationship and you have the empire kill them all off one by one to where his sacrifice in rogue one is a final, like, fuck you. You took everything from me, and now I'm taking everything from you. So my idea was to make almost a very, very tragic story over two seasons where he loses everyone. I was going to say either that or he has so many just moments where he comes through for someone and saves, you know,

is just such a selfless, just awesome guy by the end of it and really embodies the rebellion that he didn't even really want to join that by the end of you're like man this it's just a fucking shame that this guy you know but it's also like incredible that he got the rebellion because it kind of gave him a meaning in life so i i think both ways if you go either of those extremes would be would be be awesome. I just had something pop up into my brain that you're not going to like. Oh, boy. You're not going to like it, but it just came to mind. If you want to make that story even more tragic, what if you have stormtroopers come down and destroy B2 emo

like he's the president from Office Space? Oh, Bob, I don't like it. With the music from Office Space and everything. We were missing B2 emo, by by the way this episode was missing him that's the one guy i was like our guy nathan hearst did such good fan art of that did you see that yeah it was dope it was good it was bt pissing on a fire hydrant i thought that was so funny do you think we're gonna get him back next like do you think we're gonna see i don't know i was thinking about it because like it's risky for cassian to go back to that planet.

Is Marva going to, like, go back to her, like, badass old ways that we saw in the flashback where she was, like, a scavenger and meet up with him somewhere? I feel like he needs to come back. You can't just give us ba-ba-ba-ba-bakes in only a couple episodes, right? Yeah. Like, even her. Like, she's got to come back at some point, too. She was a great character. She has to go and bang another planet.

She's just looking at, maybe it is that three episode arc thing though. Like kind of like they didn't, maybe it's like every three is going to be one little arc, but I want them back already, which is, it speaks to some good characters. Cause we miss them for 40 minutes and we're like, all right, give them back. Yup. To give us a droid that good. And he only gets you know a little arc out of it that would be that would be truly tragic stuff right there

tragic not as tragic as getting murdered by a bunch of stormtroopers as uh the ghetto boys still tragic nonetheless speaking of tragic and speaking of star wars uh oceans calling the festival that pup punk was supposed to play this weekend, got canceled. And we were obviously looking forward to it so much. Like, this was a dream come true for us. And Mark Roberge from OAR, who put the whole festival together, me and him were texting back and forth. I said, hey, man, I know you put so much time and work into this. Like, I'm so sorry it got canceled. And he said, no, I'm so sorry for you guys.

We'll do it next year or whatever. And then he sent me videos of the whole grounds being constructed, the stage we were going to play on, the main stage, which was massive. That was going to be Dave Matthews, Alanis Morissette, Young the Giant, Cage the Elephant, all these massive lumineers, all these massive bands. And I said, Mark, I don't know if you're a Star Wars guy, but this is like sending me how beautiful Alderaan was before it got blown up like I don't want to see this shit Is he a Star Wars guy

Did he confirm anything He just wrote back like I feel that man I feel that I was like yeah yeah yeah He's that kid so he's probably a Star Wars guy He is also right in that age range Yeah I was going to say that Who is not a Star Wars guy if you're like in your 40s To even like 60s that whole like

Yeah you have to know what Alderaan is You saw the Death Star blow it up at some like in your 40s to even like 60s that whole like yeah you have to know what older on is you saw the death star blow it up at some point in your childhood more than likely um that's and we did the friday night pints i happened to be in that day when yeah that was a fun pints yeah it was one of the last ones so it fucking sucks to like see all the stuff he did to put into it and he talked about it you just see the excitement of his eyes he was excited for you guys more than anything the fact you guys can be up there. So we said it well, like we were as excited to go to the festivals fans as we were to play it.

We were playing a 30 minute set, which, Oh, you know what I thought about on the podcast? I'll reveal our set list. This is for the podcast and I'm not going to tweet it because maybe one day we'll actually play it. So everyone in the basement that listens to this,

just shh and nobody talk. I tweeted a fake set list that had a nice, it had, I said, here's what we'll actually play it. So everyone in the basement that listens to this, just shh and nobody talk. I tweeted a fake set list that had- Nice. It had, I said, here's what we were going to play. It had YYZ by Rush, an incredibly hard instrumental. We could never play that. Had Freebird Full, which is another song we can't play. Also Through the Fire and the Flames by Dragon Force.

And then I put on like a Ryan Cabrera song. I put that we would open with the corn song from tiktok and then go into blind by corn people really bought it um but that was not the real set list here's the real set list we're going to open with uh the anthem by good charlotte because we're in maryland they're a maryland band right into american idiot by green day right into scotty doesn't know right into semi-med Life, and then take a quick break. What's up? We're Pup Punk from New York City. Peaked in High School by Pup Punk, then Bring Up Caroline, Love Story, I'm Just a Girl, and Sk8er Boi, all back to back to back,

into Caroline Enron doing All I Do Is Win by T-Pain together. Her doing the choruses, him doing the rap parts into Good For You by Olivia Rodrigo. And then our closing was My Real Girlfriend into All the Small Things, fitting all of that into 30 minutes. You guys are going to be fucking tired by the end of that one. It was going to be a banger of a set, but I know there's a lot of people that listen to this

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this year next year they could book also like uh a reunited oasis on the bill we could open up for them or something i don't know all right let's i don't know if you'd make it through that one let's talk about some marvel stuff because there was some big news this week. And we also got some questions about her. A question from a loyal listener, Logan DeWolf wrote in. He said, thoughts on Hugh Jackman reprising the role of Wolverine. Does it ruin Logan? I don't think so because there's no one else who can do the character justice in this Deadpool movie. So if you're not aware, this is a confirmed thing.

Hugh Jackman is going to be reprising the role of logan slash wolverine for deadpool 3 this was revealed this week by ryan reynolds he put out a video that was so casual he was like sitting on his couch he's like i'm so sorry we missed d23 i just don't have any ideas for deadpool 3 and it's classic like ryan reynolds style humor throughout the entire thing he's narrating it self-aware. He's doing like workouts and everything. And then he goes, but I have one idea. He turns around, Hugh Jackman walks behind him eating an apple or something.

He's like, Hey Hugh, you want to play Wolverine one more time? And he's like, sure. And he goes upstairs and he's like, Oh, pretty cool. Huh? Then they put out another video the next day where they're like, here's how it's going to work. Like, we know you're concerned about logan it's not gonna affect that because logan takes place in 2029 and this takes place before that so everyone chill out on that front and then it just like has a wham song

come in over it and you can't hear what they're saying i'll throw to you clem how do you feel about this as the resident x-men guy i loved it i loved loved it I was nerding the fuck out Fanboying out, whatever you want to call it This is the thing We talked about this in our D23 recap As well A bunch of people told us Disney or Marvel

Whatever you want to call it Cannot recast Marvel characters Until 2025 or else they apparently have to pay All the actors that were playing Those characters a ton of money From the Fox contract Marvel characters until 2025 or else they apparently have to pay all the characters that all the actors that were playing those characters a ton of money right from the Fox contract so because of that they basically have to keep the same actors or just not have the X-Men X-Men is better than no X-Men in my mind that's the first thing second thing this Hugh Jackman Ryan Reynolds they're they've coexisted in the same world. They're in the same universe.

This Deadpool movie. I don't think people realize it doesn't have to be earth six, one, six, right. It could be in its own. Yeah. This movie could be,

I think they initially said like before they knew if it was going to be MCU or not. And if they were going to be, get to use any of those characters, it was going to be a road trip movie with Wolverine and Deadpool. What if it's a road trip through the multiverse and they wind up in the MCU at the end? Like Deadpool's also the perfect character where he can look at the screen

and be like, I know this doesn't really line up timeline wise, but like, just go with it, man. We're making a movie. Like he's the fourth wall breaking character. Like he can make a joke about it.

That makes sense immediately. And also like he can kind of make a joke and introduce logan to the mcu in that way like there's so many possibilities here i'm with you i'm waiting and seeing and saying like yeah x-men is better than no x-men that's a beautiful uh sentiment that you stated there but it is like a little bit with you jackman where he has said this is the last time i'm playing so many times at this point it's's like Ric Flair retiring from wrestling. I was going to say the same thing. This is the Ric Flair of Marvel characters.

It's like Daniel Craig and James Bond. He did the exact same thing. His last five James Bond movies. He might have five. His last five, he said, this is my last time. He just said, please stop casting me in these goddamn things. I did think, the guy's got to be like, I got to fucking get in Wolverine shape again.

Like, you got to be kidding me. Oh, that's true. That sucks. I'm eating good. That sucks. This is the other thing, too. I'm an X-Men guy. Wolverine was my favorite character.

So those two things in particular, I'm just going to be very happy that he's going to be in this movie. Deadpool is probably my favorite non-Avengers movie. I mean, the last two Avengers movies that are like two of my favorite movies ever. I fucking love Deadpool. Deadpool and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, or basically anyone as Wolverine. Just put them two on the screen. Do you like Deadpool 2 too? Uh, 2 too?

I didn't like it as much as Deadpool 1. I liked it, but yeah, I didn't like it as much. Yeah, Deadpool 1 is one of my favorite superhero movies ever again it's right so good adventures and guardians it's so grounded and like rewatchable the scene in the in the um place with the old blind lady where he's got the little hand on the face oh my god that so funny and it's so it's so sm it's like it's funny but there's like so many smart things the

way they tie things together. In the beginning, the credits, the slow motion, and then you see the entire car thing and the car fight and how it goes down. And even the marketing. The way they marketed Deadpool 1 and 2, I remember, was absolutely incredible. They had these billboards or the Bob Ross painting. Remember, he was doing that. There's just so many fun things and even remember there was a there was a billboard that had a skull emoji a poo emoji and an L and it was yeah dead pool that was pretty good so I that kind of creative shit they I said this Fox couldn't screw up Deadpool as long as Disney allows him to be Deadpool which basically curse and you know

be and rated R character I feel like, just make Ryan Reynolds very involved because it's one and the same at this point. Like, Ryan Reynolds is one of those actors that kind of plays the same role in every movie. And it's awesome. Like, I'm not hating on him for it. I love Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. He's kind of a dude from Free Guy and everything. Yeah, that's exactly it.

He's been Van Wilder since he was Van Wilder. Yeah. And they said it in the announcement. Thank you, Kevin Feige. We love you, Kevin. Kevin Feige is going to tell whatever bigwigs at Disney listen, just let these guys go. It's going to be a little extreme.

They've already started pushing the boundaries. There's some mature content on Disney+. They're trying to loosen up the MCU a little bit. So 10 out of 10, and it came out of nowhere. But I saw your tweet where it was like, Deadpool, Wolverine, and Deadpool 3, and I couldn't see the tweet you retweeted. And I was like, huh, I wonder where he got this from.

And then it's literally out of the mouths of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman. And he had a great, I think his caption was like, it was hard to keep my mouth sewn shut about this one. Like again, you're harkening back to a different Deadpool, you know, it was a Deadpool movie, but Deadpool character. In X-Men Origins Wolverine, like it all tied back.

It's good stuff. And also just a poster hack. I said this to Jeff D. Lowe. You put the three claw marks over anything. I saw that and I said out loud loud that's an awesome poster and then i realized like it's the most low effort poster they could have gone with it's the deadpool logo with three claw marks and i'm like i don't care it's awesome i said it's so simple so basic but at the same point it is deadpool 3 as well which kind of really bangs at home on multiple levels so

that i forget the three claw that was all over comic books back in the day. So great. It's probably about a hundred in my attic right now. And they have the claw marks on them somewhere. This next news item. I don't have much to say about because we've heard so little about it, but it came out right before we started recording that armor more armor wars has been made into a movie. It was developed as a series.

Now it will be coming out as a movie. Don Cheadle, great actor but i don't know anything about this movie i mean i'm excited for it of course i think the idea of you know the government going after all of tony stark's technology in the wake of his death is very interesting and his friends kind of stepping in to be like whoa we got to like make sure that this it doesn't fall into the wrong hands You bring Ironheart into it I'm sure Because she's you know the Tony Stark

Protégé not protégé but fan That is inspired by him I think it sounds cool I'm happier To devote Again this is also like a work thing It's a work and a viewer thing I'd rather devote

Two hours hour whatever it's going to be hour 45 to armor wars instead of you know half hour or whatever for 10 weeks like five hours a week i i wasn't like super excited for it to start with so the fact is just hey go in the movie theater see it if it's good and good if if it sucks it was two hours of your life you got some popcorn out of the deal everyone's happy so that's kind of how i thought let me ask this that could make you excited about it i don't want to get your hopes up too high upgraded to movie do they get a little tony stark cameo in terms of like it's armor wars do they go back and find you know archived footage of tony showing the armor but it's like actually new footage that robert downey jr films just for this my dog tony

stark being back on the screen would be very nice I'm just going to put it out there right now I don't think I can handle Seeing Morgan Stark Oh she'll definitely be in this Oh I can't do it Bob And also the girl that you don't love Gwyneth Paltrow She'll probably be in this

She'll forget that she's in it a year later You tell me Gwyneth Before I go I'm going on IMDb. And if I see Gwyneth Paltrow's big stupid face on the list of the cast, I am not going. Morgan Stark, I will go. I swear to God, if she's fucking eating a cheeseburger too, I am like believing in tears. I just can't handle it. Oh, yeah.

Her and Favreau, like tears and cheeseburgers. Do you think we get happy? I feel like we get happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think definitely. I think definitely. I think definitely. Also, like, wasn't Happy kind of, not responsible, but he was

overseeing the move where Vulture started stealing Tony Stark's shit? Yeah, that's true. Happy, I think, has a lot of, like, fucked up a little bit here and there, you know? Yeah, he's like Turtle or something. It's like, he cannot have Happy around. The final thing I want to talk to you about on this podcast a news item that i also

saw right before we started recording i don't know if you saw this i assume maybe you did um william hurt who unfortunately passed away played thunderbolt ross in the mcu they're talking about recasting him for the thunderbolts movie and And their top choice is none other than Han Solo, Indiana Jones himself, Harrison Ford to play. Obviously, William Hurt's character, Thunderbolt Ross, but maybe turn into the Red Hulk later because that's what happens in the comics and whatnot. How do you feel about this? Like one, the recasting in general to it being Harrisonrison ford in the mcu oh i'm very excited to have harrison ford in the mcu it feels like a pretty i guess not it's not it wouldn't be like a taxing role for him um he's 80 years old though bob at what point like i know i was sort of

thinking that like it's not like he he looks a ton like william hurt like i could see it in terms of you could you could buy that recasting yeah or whatever but i i don't know you can't see him as like the red hole like you can't see harrison ford doing motion capture like the red hulk and whatever like i could see him as the grumpy thunderbolt ross who's always trying to like arrest avengers and shit you're like all right dude like that they like literally like hang up on his call in one of the movies they're like yeah okay well get off my plane yeah and like that's Harrison Ford he's grumpy right like he's kind of that but like I don't know I don't I don't even know how I feel about recasting him so I saw this on Twitter as Sienna's and i was about to text it to you and be

like oh shit i had no idea this was possible a possibility and then the bus came get the kid off and then it just kind of slipped my mind so i'm happy you you got this and saw it and i honestly thought i thought your um reaction was going to be you know straight bob fox star wars die hard how is it it's like it's like um when you're like one group of friends we see other group of friends and they're friends too and everyone we're all friends together i'd like him i'd like him to be in the mcu it'd be cool but like i don't know recasting like this it's like i guess if you're gonna recast an actor go with someone so iconic that it's like holy shit nobody's gonna complain about that but i don't know i i wasn't over the

moon about it i saw it and i was like huh okay i and i understand it's obviously named after him the thunderbolts and he has to play a role i guess he has to if you're bringing harrison ford you're you're gonna say he's gonna play a pretty prominent role if you're bringing an actor that kind of prominence with it will you just like the nick fury though yeah prominent in terms of the story but not in terms of the screen time yeah like one minute of screen time total for like every five years or so and then the other thing is i guess julia louis-dreyfus either our girl elaine she's playing either they can't really use her to fill that void right in terms of her character though so it's like why can't she. Unless.

If the rumors of this casting came out. And they have her there. They thought of that right. It's on the whiteboard. You know our boy Flaggy had to raise some stuff. He's connecting some dots here. And there might be a thing where there's a power struggle. Where there needs to be a Thunderbolt Ross.

And one that carries some cachet. That Harrison Ford can fill. And maybe she like takes that role right away like in one movie she kind of like usurps him and she's the new leader or something like that and like not to be insensitive but maybe you kill thunderbolt ross off in the mcu itself they're killing everyone else off in the mcu that's like my thing at the end of every i feel like a recap we're doing but i don't think they had to kill that villain off if the one time they don't kill off the villain is after the actor that played him died it would feel kind of weird but uh in in the flaggy we trust in flaggy we trust indeed and uh this was

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