My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 249 - 'GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY HOLIDAY SPECIAL' REVIEW WITH CLEM
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3G, and welcome to a holiday edition of My Mom's we said, we're going to do a show with Jose Youngs, our friend, where we talk about all different kinds of holiday specials throughout comics, throughout superhero cartoons, Batman, the animated series.
But he's busy doing UFC Orlando stuff this week.
So we're going to recap the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special this week without him.
We're also going to talk about the Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 trailer.
And, of course, if we're talking Guardians, we need the Guardians guy, Clem, with us.
And Clem, this was a big week for Guardians fans.
This was a massive week in the Costa de Clem
because we gathered up like a family
that would gather around in like the 50s
and watch like the Peanuts special
for like the Great Christmas Tree.
What is it?
Is it the Great Pumpkin? Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown. And what's the it is it the great it's no the great pumpkin
great pumpkin charlie brown what's the christmas one i think it's just charlie brown charlie brown
christmas yeah you guys can tell i'm uh i'm currently living at home with kids during
december which means i'm sick so you guys have to hear this awful voice which is even worse than
usual right now it doesn't sound that bad on yourself i think it sounds all right when i
yell at the kids in the morning when i'm like still sleeping and they're running around, it's like, I go like, Adrian, stop that.
And it's like, I wonder why they laugh at you.
Oh yeah.
They point and laugh.
It's the worst.
But it was a huge fucking weekend, man.
We, we all sat down together.
Like, I don't, I think it was even too early for popcorn.
It was like, I was like, oh crap.
It's right.
It got released today.
So it was the day after Thanksgiving went down, sat down and we had our laughs.
We had some, you know, stories about everything.
We're kind of comparing us to different members of the Guardians and all in all.
I mean, I think that was exactly what we wanted from it. Right.
Absolutely. This Guardians holiday special was so goddamn good. It reminded me of something that I would sit down with Christmas morning, hot cocoa,
little Christmas tree cookie, and just devour that thing as I watch this. I've watched it twice now.
I watched it again this morning, right before we recorded this, just to kind of like
re-familiarize myself with it. It just makes you feel warm and cuddly inside. There's multiple
moments in it that could bring tears to your eyes. Spoiler alert, we're going to talk spoilers on
this. When they turn the lights on for the first time and peter puts his hands on his head and he's
just like oh my god look what my friends did for me and then the ending which has massive implications
on the guardians as a whole which is mantis's peter's half sister which makes a lot of sense
too it's surprising right but not shocking because duh who else is
her dad like she grew up on that ego planet so ego is going to be her dad and when he says
oh my god mantis that's the greatest christmas gift you ever could have given me and he gives
her a big hug that's like a true feel-good christmas moment right there yeah and when you
look back and you think the first time you meet mantis your brain is just so confused with everything that's going on.
But then when you think back, and even when she's like,
I have to tell you something because that's her brother, right?
And she has to save him.
And that's why you have the fucking cave full of skulls
that she basically saves Peter from joining at one point.
And like you said, it was fun.
It made you laugh.
It kind of just gave you that warm, fuzzy feeling,
which, by the way,
now looking back, we should have definitely done like hot –
if we had known about it, I guess, done some hot cocoa,
maybe put some chocolate chips in the pancakes.
Get a little crazy on a –
You can do it again before Christmas.
We get a lot of time.
That is a fair point.
My kids will definitely co-sign for that one.
But the fact that it even had like –
I appreciate that it actually meant something to the MCU,
where it's like there will be some things that might get touched on or kind of stuff that goes back and changes how you look at Guardians 2.
Right. And then moving forward, my favorite part is going to be a certain person that's missing an appendage because all in all, a W for Marvel here.
Also, did you know this this i didn't know this it was actually revealed in guardians
2 that mantis was peter's sister in a deleted scene that they wound up not using i had no idea
i had shit i've never seen the deleted scenes i'm learning i've never seen the deleted scenes
of guardians of the galaxy is it like a legit scene or is it like one of those things that
was just on the cutting room floor i think it's's legit. I think they filmed it. I think it might be out there.
And that's maybe part of the reason why I miss DVDs is because I feel like
that was such a big part of the special features,
getting a few deleted scenes,
getting a director's commentary.
Now that stuff kind of just like,
it goes over my head and I miss it.
That's one of the few things that definitely hurts without the physical
media.
And like we always talk about on this podcast,
which one day will happen is the hidden bonus song where you'd have to like fast forward like
two minutes at the end of the last song of this on the soundtrack or the tape or whatever basically
the after credit scene of an album yeah exactly and that was um hopping around again i hadn't
guardians one came out right when my daughter was born and i was kind of barely able to go
to the movies i'm still barely able to go to the movies i only go to do it to like watch someone goes clem who's
listening you into the movies and i was like well actually so i'm kind of forever but i basically
had to like sneak out on like a saturday afternoon when the kids both had sports or something going
on because i had to do it for work so uh when i remember when i heard the guardians have what was
it six post-credit scenes i was like that, just being silly and just being jerks about it all.
I love that so much.
So they – God, I love this fucking franchise.
I'm so mad it's going to go away.
But at the same point, I feel like this might not happen if James Gunn thought there was going to be a Guardians 4
or if he thought he'd be with Marvel for the long term.
I think he's like, you know what, let's just have all our fun now.
So we're not saying, oh, well, we could have done.
They're doing it all right now.
And we got a home run.
We got another home run.
I'd say this is definitely the best special presentation.
Is it just this?
There's only been two.
Okay.
I was wondering if there was a third I was missing.
This is so good, though.
It was everything we wanted it to be when we looked at that long layout of all
the marvel tv shows and specials and movies we were putting this towards the top of our list
like we were so excited about this i think it paid off let's uh get right into it this podcast
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It kicks off with a song called Fairytale of New York by the Pogues, which I hadn't heard before,
but oh my God, great Christmas song over a Christmas Marvel logo,
which was also really cool.
It was like old Christmas comics that had Marvel collabs or whatever.
And then it was Christmas lights over the Marvel logo.
Really cool.
And we kick things off with a cartoon, like it's a Christmas special.
You see Peter and Kraglin as kids playing with Christmas tree, Christmas toys.
They're wrapping things together and Yondu ruins it. He says, I hate Christmas.
He's like, don't give me any presents. I don't like this.
The Ravagers earn everything.
And he just yells at them and we find out this is Kraglin retelling the story
to the rest of the guardians. He says, it's almost Christmas time on earth.
And Nebula reveals in another part that has big implications on the guardians
and kind of this
universe that they actually bought nowhere from the collector so nowhere now belongs to the
guardians of the galaxy and the collector is alive i figured the collector was dead after infinity war
dude the collector all time like just that os is benevolent i guess you could say the fact he
wouldn't just kill people to kill people.
He had a,
our boy Tyrion turned his fist into fucking hammers or whatever.
He could have definitely killed the collector.
Just get them out of his hair.
But I mean,
that's not the way the Thanos program works.
It's don't kill.
What is it?
Like don't take more than what you need.
That's basically what Thanos does when he was going for his plan there.
So shout out to the randomizing. Yeah. the collector's like a cockroach the fact that he
survived though i mean he got his entire place just completely torn up and you see they're trying
to put it back together in this whole special like uh cosmo the dog a new character a new part
of the guardians is using like telekinesis with rocket just putting things back together
yep yep i also loved how they started with the cartoon like that was something like oh shit we're
gonna we're having some fun here it's gonna be a holiday that's a holiday special kind of thing
and i believe he said i believe james gunn said there was something about making it a cartoon
and i think it was kind of like a throwback to some of those old christmassy like specials
rotoscoped which means like it was basically true they filmed everything
and then they traced it to make the cartoon which is like a throwback to those old specials and it's
of course his way of getting michael roker in this because michael roker's his good luck charm
he's in every james gunn project so he's got to have michael roker and of course yondu such a
great character that i'll welcome yondu even in cartoon form yep yep
and as speaking to yondu we see our boy cragglin has the mohawk on so you're like oh shit that
that's that's a thing now and uh it just felt like you're back with your it kind of felt like
it was like thanksgiving break and you're back with the family again you know you just had those
warm cuddly feelings and then even going to nowhere and it's like oh shit like the house
got redone we remodeled everything
rob i uh i gotta do kitchen i don't know how to use the dishwasher rob you gotta
you gotta do where i impersonate your mom and i've met her for five minutes my entire life
that's no but you do a spot-on impersonation that's what she sounds like we get a great
great alien name here that made me think like oh my my God, get James Gunn writing, writing alien names for star Wars.
Beezer McTuckalock approaches Peter about this Christmas song that he's
writing.
And he's like,
everything I know about Christmas is from rocket who learned it from
Groot,
who learned it from Kraglin,
who learned it from you or whatever.
So I want to go back to the source.
I'm writing this Christmas song.
Can you just tell me if it's accurate?
And he's like,
yeah,
sure.
I don't have a lot of time,
but he starts singing it and we get our opening credit sequence to,
I don't know what Christmas is, but Christmastime is here.
This is a song written by James Gunn and this band, and it's fantastic.
It's like a great new Christmas song that I already added to my playlist.
Oh, it's on the playlist.
Wow.
Wow.
I might have to look into that.
I love it because it is.
It's like a game of
telephone where there's all these deep the fine details are all screwed up and by the time it
comes back and they're talking about used to be a dentist like the hell from rudolph and stuff like
that and santa claus they make him seem like this like kind of like a little bit of a monster at
some point he's like a furry guy with superpowers they say at one point like it's great it's uh god
i'm gonna miss this as
there's a part of me that's really gonna be sad that this is the end of the run for this team and
james gone at marvel but then i'm like this kind of just gives dc like no excuses if you guys fuck
this one up yeah you guys just like fold up shop you know make a couple batman movies here and
there and just stick the comic books by the way james gunn has been a real cheeky bastard on twitter recently tweeting just like the full
kingdom come picture which is one of the all-time iconic dc stories and he's just like planning for
the future that was his caption i was like you cheeky motherfucker like is he teasing kingdom
come is he just saying like this is me at a table Planning for the future Is he bringing in Kingdom Come
What are we doing here James Gunn
We want information soon
That's a nerd that knows he has the keys to the kingdom
For lack of a better term
And just is having some fucking fun with it
He's Jonah Hill with the gun
He's going bang I'm going to shoot you with Kingdom Come
Bang bang I'm going to get you
Bang
Mantis and Drax talk about this secret that Mantis is Peter's half sister.
And she wants to give Peter a wonderful Christmas gift because of this.
She's like, I am his sister.
He's so down.
I want to really make this a big Christmas for him.
We don't even know what Christmas is, but let's make it an amazing one for Peter.
And they quickly decide Kevin bacon is going to be the
gift we're just going to go go down to earth and get kevin bacon we see him living in la they go
down uh take some pictures in front of the tcl uh chinese theater and they see like other avengers
they see a go bot who apparently like murdered drax's cousin he's like you bastard they see
steve rogers who runs away from them they're like why is steve running away from us and they get some money from this so uh did you notice that there
was a king goes king goes christmas in the background it's like the first time the eternals
have been referenced by any of the fucking movies or tv shows and it's in this like back of the
scene and it says like king goes christmas somewhere that is funny someone calls drax
god of war as well which i thought was really funny they're like i got a picture with the god
of war and they wander into a gay bar looking for kevin bacon and it's pretty clearly gay bar from
the second they walk in but i don't think they ever really acknowledge it and they have a great
time getting drunk letting loose it's funny to see both of these characters get drunk and letting loose they were good to picked for this special to kind of highlight and showcase and one
of those star tour ladies sees them outside talking about not knowing where kevin bacon lives
do you like i can tell you where kevin bacon lives i got it on a pamphlet right here 40 bucks
mantis just uses the powers because they don't have any money at this point. She's like, you want to give me this for free and give me all your other money.
Very good way to rope that in where it's like, how would they know where Kevin Bacon lives?
There actually are these creepy tours where they're just like, that's a star's house.
That's a star's house.
That's a star's house.
I'm very proud of myself for never going on those tours.
I've been to LA two or three times and I've never even thought.
I think it's creepy. I think that's an invasion of privacy. I actually have to LA two or three times and I've never even thought. I think it's creepy.
I think that's an invasion of privacy.
I actually have to admit though.
I don't know how I knew this,
but I did see where Bruno Mars's house was.
So I guess I kind of,
maybe I looked it up on my phone at some point and we passed by.
I've been past.
It's different.
Like if you drive past it and you're just sneaky,
like something about being at home,
looking at your front window and seeing like a bus pull up
a double decker bus with people taking pictures of you like you're in a zoo i don't like that oh
i was singing the songs to him i was like bro and i was the same son but a little bit bigger now
so they arrive at kevin bacon's he dismisses them at first when they're on the ring doorbell camera the little simply safe whoever wants to sponsor us this week and they eventually just break in on their way in
drax grabs a little funny man which i loved him calling this elf a little funny man the whole
special it's like look at this little funny man i'm taking it and he forgets it on the way out
so keep that in mind that's you know a kind of a running thing in this special.
And cops arrive when they chase Kevin Bacon out of his house.
He crashed through his windows, and he has to jump off his roof.
It's a whole big chase sequence.
Cops arrive.
They shoot Drax immediately, but it just tickles him.
He's laughing at them.
Mantis puts all the cops to sleep, and then he flips a cop car,
and Mantis uses her powers to convince Kevin Bacon to come with him.
So they load up on decorations and head back to nowhere.
Did.
OK, I have to ask you because I did.
I could not figure it out.
Did we see Mark Hamill drinking?
We did not.
We did not.
OK, it looks a lot like Mark Hamill.
And there were so many rumors that Mark Hamill was going to play a role in this in some way.
He still could play a role in Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
But someone tweeted immediately at Mark Hamill's son, Nathan, and said, like, is that your dad in the Guardians?
Especially he said no.
I don't know, man.
I know it looks like they have found the actor
They have found the actor
I mean that guy has a fucking future
Let me see if I can throw it up on the YouTube
I got the tweet here
I'll throw it up on the YouTube for everyone to see
And it's like it's even the way he holds
His like the titty milk
Yeah it is
It's like framed the exact same way
But yeah there you go that's Nathan Hamill's tweet right there.
That's not Mark Hamill.
And then Mark Hamill goes, it says, that's not at Mark Hamill's by Nathan Hamill.
Then Mark Hamill writes, it's not.
So he's definitely feeding into it.
Yeah, exactly.
I appreciate that.
Okay.
So I had to go to the source here.
The man who once held your arm with a lightsaber on it.
Which the anniversary just passed.
It was just a couple of days ago.
Five years.
Can you believe that?
Oh my God. That's crazy. Time is ago. Five years. Can you believe that?
That's crazy.
Time is flying.
I mean, it's like Avengers Endgame.
Time flies in a snap.
Five years later.
On the ship, they find out that Kevin Bacon is an actor,
and they are absolutely disgusted.
They try to talk to him about when you saved the town by dancing and when you fought against that killer, Jason Voorhees.
And he's like, well, I'm an actor like I know the Fonz.
And we teamed up by eating dinner one night.
If you consider that a team up there like, no, you're disgusting.
Oh, my God, this is horrible.
So Mantis uses her powers to make him act like a hero.
And he immediately goes into like a british war vet voice and then
goes into a batman voice second time batman is referenced in the mcu after i believe it was black
widow where they were like or it might be the third time they might have done it in eternals as well
but in black widow i remember yelena bringing up like batman bruce wayne And if you're not familiar in the Marvel and DC comic books,
the other universe usually exists as like superhero comics.
Like in the Marvel universe, they have Batman comics.
And in the DC universe, they have Iron Man comics.
So that's like a cool little like wink, wink.
We're in this together nudge.
And especially done by James Gunn here, who's on his way to DC.
Fucking such a trip, man.
I was hoping that we get Kevin Bacon doing some sort of Sebastian Shaw
impersonation from X-Men First Class,
which was like, I think there was two good X-Men
when they kind of went back in time.
There was two.
I don't even know if there was a third one that was good,
but I loved that.
I loved his role in that.
Days of Future Past was great, and First Class was great.
I don't, Apocalypse was next which oh apocalypse was so bad yeah um and then i remember there was one apocalypse the scene where magneto like loses his daughter in the woods and you know
kills everyone because of it that scene was so fucking good they should have just put that out
as the movie it's been a five minute movie and i would have been like shit they did it again it's like
they didn't even get apocalypse here we just got magneto killing motherfuckers like yeah well hey
it's fucking good yeah yeah no that that would have been better than what they put out and then
they made dark phoenix which i didn't even see i just saw the trailers neither um i we've said
this a bunch and i think the x-men will be a big part of the basement in like three or four years or whatever but i want
kevin feige to know you can redo all the dark phoenix shit you can redo any apocalypse shit
any of the movies that sucked we do not care i'll use the men in black flashy i prefer they redo it
yeah no those are great stories those are the great stories so i don't want you to not like
if someone did the infinity war really shitty like in the 90s it wouldn't be like well we can't
do that now because someone did it's like no no you can very much do it even if they did it in
the 20 twins 10s you can still do it too we we do not give a fuck that is some of the best shit
that they have on paper so uh and i i would have loved if we had some sort of sebastian stan
like a little ralph Boner nod to the audience.
Sebastian Shaw.
Sebastian Shaw.
What did I say?
Sebastian Stan.
Who is Bucky.
We'll get to him later.
Yeah.
My nephew actually watched Dark Phoenix when he was like six or seven.
You know, the perfect age for like you show a superhero action movie to a kid that age and they'll love it and he said to
my dad like you got to turn this off like 10 minutes into it he was like you got to get this
off the screen what are we doing here and that was with my girl sansa as yeah gene gray and i
remember saying it at the time i was like i don't i might have blogged it or something i was like
i love sansa i'll fucking ride with her forever and i love jean gray and the dark phoenix this is going
to be bad and i don't think either of us saw more than 10 minutes of it like and all three of us
will include your nephew and your brother did your brother watch it on his own or was he like no no
he was like fuck this he was like you made the right call little guy if you saw the entire dark
phoenix movie tweeted us actually no if you started it we definitely got listeners we definitely got listeners who saw it my nephew he's the best he asked my dad about like why we
celebrate christmas a little bit they're not a religious family in the slightest so my dad gave
a very broad strokes explanation of jesus and why we celebrate whatever my nephew is big takeaway
just like so wait a minute jesus christ is his last name and it's not just a curse my nephew is big takeaway was just like so wait a minute jesus christ is his last name and
it's not just a curse my dad is like yep not just a curse that's his name buddy not a curse uh a god
to some people yeah yeah and before we move back to guardian special i saw someone have this idea
for the x-men and i love it they said introduce all of the x-men through marvel special presentations and then do
an x-men team-up movie where we already know a couple of them i think that would be an awesome
way to introduce them in a very unique way to introduce them i saw some people someone was
saying uh like secret wars or something could be because it's gonna be like a cosmic change when
there's a bunch of mutants around if like that is where you get them it's like all
right now we have all the mutants but instead of like waiting for a movie like you said boom boom
boom special presentations i think that that could definitely and you know motherfuckers are
gonna watch it and based on uh the only problem with this is the other thing i learned about that
bob eiger taking over disney sounds like disney plus isn't doing too great in terms of the uh
the pocketbooks what was it like a 1..5 billion lost in just the last quarter alone?
It's like, yeah, it's charging like $8 a month for something that has these massive, massive budgets.
I mean, they just did a holiday special.
They used fucking Vin Diesel.
They used Bradley Cooper.
Chris Pratt has a pretty big role.
He's not just a cameo.
He's in a lot of
it you know they used Kevin Bacon yeah I also appreciated that they used Keira Sedgwick's name
but they didn't bring her on screen like so like yeah I know that he's married and I always that's
one of those couples they're kind of like the um off-brand Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson oh yeah
they've been together a while they've grown old old together. Do you think she was doing her own voice?
Was she in the credits?
She probably was, right?
That's a great question.
I hope so.
I mean, I feel like Kevin –
That would take, what, 20 minutes max for her to get into a studio and record?
Kevin Bacon's like, listen, I'll give you guys a little break on my, you know, fate.
Yeah.
But you have to let my wife come on, too.
We have Christmas presents we have to buy.
Yeah.
Which I also thought would have been hilarious if this whole time you like went on
like kevin bacon's wittopedia they found out he's just like jewish i don't celebrate christmas i
don't think christmas was in my house oh that would that would have been a funny funny gag to
to kidnap someone that was jewish that was like i i don't celebrate christmas what are you talking
about peter's eating i think he's eating cereal or something looks out the window he sees groot like see him and then run away and this is vorsey
groot as we call them again i love this version of groot already and we hit christmas time by the
smashing pumpkins a great underrated christmas song especially for like rock nerds like me who
like the weird christmas songs this. And the lights hit.
That moment hits where Peter puts his hands on his head.
He's like, I can't believe what my friends did for me.
Everything's lit up for him.
And then they wheel out that big box.
He's like, what did you guys get?
But you didn't have to.
They pull him out and it's Kevin Bacon completely brainwashed.
And Peter's onto it right away.
He's pissed.
He's like, I cannot believe this.
What did you guys do?
And he makes, he says it's human trafficking.
He makes Mantis snap him out of the trance.
So Kevin Bacon, in reality, is terrified.
He tries to run.
Groot says, I am Groot.
And Peter's like, oh, you thought it was a bad idea the whole time?
You were just wheeling him out and everything.
Kraglin is told, all right, bring Kevin Bacon back to the Bowie, their new ship, which
what a great name for the new ship.
I knew you were going to like that one, Bob.
Come on, I loved that.
The Milano, the
what was the other one?
The Milano, the
I don't remember the other one either.
No, it's right there too.
And then obviously the Bowie, the Bowie, the Milano
and the, come on, come on, get it, get it mulatto and the come on the mayflower no it's another um
the banotar pat banotar the banotar yeah great ship names i love the bowie i love the way it
looks as well.
And when Kraglin brings him back.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
I got this confused with the trailer.
I apologize.
I was going to say when Kraglin brings him back, he tells him, I haven't gotten control of my fin yet, essentially.
Like, I haven't gotten the hang of the arrow thing yet.
I'm sure that's going to be a big moment in Guardians 3 when he eventually does.
Yeah.
And it's like, Yondu, it's going to be like he used his heart or whatever, right?
Isn't that the thing about what he talks about?
I'm calling that now.
That's the first prediction of Guardians 3.
You've heard it here first on the holiday special recap.
There's going to be a line with the Yondu, I don't use my head, I use my heart,
or it's something like that.
I forgot the exact line from Guardians when he says it.
That's going to be said. The Kevin Bacon thing thing i didn't even think about mantis using mind control
on him but his reaction when she drops the mind control legitimate lol moment um the whole thing
of like like you said when he yells at group that is when like the guardians i think on its own and
the big stuff they do the big jokes the big action sequences all that other stuff i think are very good but it's the little moments like the asking for you know batteries or uh you didn't
even ask the tape do you have tape and you know you didn't even ask but she was right next to him
all those little things that is something that you have had with like your family or your friends and
stuff like that that's where this thing shines i thought that was kind of the moment i'm like
man i love these fucking misfits together.
They're just a beautiful group of misfits.
It's basically like Barstool when you think about it.
It's like a dozen teams.
Like the Guardians would definitely be a dozen teams.
Just look at all the teams in the dozen.
It is so fucking hilarious.
It is just a bunch of just misfit teams just lumped together.
Absolutely.
And I love Kraglin.
I thought he was great in this special.
He explained the situation a little bit more to Kevin Bacon, how upset Peter is, how these people don't understand Christmas here. And he's like, you know what? Calls his wife. Can't believe he gets service up there. He calls his wife and he's like, I'm going to be a little late. I'm going to stay. I got to show some friends about Christmas time. And he sings a song for everybody while they exchange gifts the gifts were uh peter gives groot a game boy which is so great the original game boy right
you're like oh he's finally upgrading he looks so happy about it grits jack dude
he is he's like what like what age do you think he's supposed to be i feel like he's like
18 i was gonna say like 15 i feel like he's like uh yeah yeah probably like fire like he's like 18 i was gonna say like 15 i feel like he's like uh yeah yeah probably like fire
like he's getting into protein shakes and maybe a little bit of hgh here and there yeah you know
what i mean it looks like it shout out my boy my boy finn uh largest son finn mccarthy he's a he's
a football he's got into football and he's just become like this little like stout jack dude i'm
like what happened to my little sweet finn here and he kind of has a little Groot to him.
So our boy Groot gets a Game Boy, which Bob,
I know this is like a foreign world to you,
but back in the day, a handheld video game was mind-blowing shit.
I was the last generation of handheld before like the Switch
because I had the Nintendo DS.
I had the Game Boy Advance.
I had the Game Boy SP.
I was a big Game Boy kid. But you grew up in a world where they existed the game boy was like oh true those okay i won't go on a long rant here we've gone long already on this those tiger games where
it was like you do you ever play those little tiger handhelds you know i'm talking about i had
like it had like one game on it right it was just yeah it'd be like um double dragon and it would have
like you could go left right and like hit punch or kick and that would be the entire game and it
was just awful terrible games when the game boy came in it changed the fucking game it changed
the world basically so i was a huge game boy kid i loved game boy yeah i i loved game gear for that
was the sega version but that motherfucker ate batteries like basically the like rocket did back in the day they stole your batteries from your ass um mantis gets drax
the little funny man he pulls that out of a box that was great what a great way to
he's like a little funny man um cosmo brings craglin a skinned creature one of those little
like rat type creatures we've seen before um Groot gives
everyone clay figures of themselves and Kraglin's was hysterical it was him opening up his clay
that was great um but just adorable little clay figures that I feel like they should sell because
I would like put those on my desk and best of all Nebula gives Rocket Bucky's arm. He said in Infinity War, I'm going to get that arm.
And he got it.
Out of fucking nowhere.
I'll tell you, I didn't think that I would have to worry about spoilers for the holiday special.
If I had that spoil for me that he had his arm, it would have devastated me.
Because we talked about it a bunch here.
It's like, do you ever think he's going to actually get the arm?
And how is he going to do it?
And how did that go?
Nebula just go down on her and she's like, I need that arm. I love that they didn't tell us yeah i love they didn't tell us and she's such like a like a creepy fuck sometimes if anyone can get it it's nebula
yeah such a great moment in this special kevin bacon hugs everyone he says goodbye
and then mantis explains to peter why they did this in the first place and he's like oh I'm
not sure Kraglin knows the ending to that story turns out Yondu went open to his present and then
got Peter a present as well he got him blasters which what a present to get your child Red Rider
BB gun basically except for little things that can kill people I fucking love I love Yondu as a dad
because he is such like the by the seat of your pants, learning on the fly and probably doing shit that you probably shouldn't do.
Yeah.
So Mantis tells Peter in this moment, he goes, her father, too.
She's so emotional.
She's crying as she does it.
Peter says, that's the greatest Christmas gift I could ever get.
Gives her a big hug.
And we hit the credits.
Merry Christmas to all and all a good night or whatever.
And then our after credit scene
is them dressing up groot as their christmas tree an adorable little thing i didn't even think about
and group puts his arms down some ornaments and sash fall off and he goes ruin christmas again
now we're gonna have to have another special which is like are we doing another special is
that a tease that's just a joke little fourth wall break i don't know it could lead right into guardians um three right it would
be right before then easter if easter was the next holiday if we're gonna stick with i love
how we would stick with just the christian holidays but that that i mean there's a lot
of ways you can go with easter eggs too and guardians loves placing easter eggs around
shit there could be a lot of fun with that, but I don't know if they will,
but again,
it wouldn't shock me if they did just because I feel like James gun is just
going to empty the clip with this crew in this franchise.
I was going to say,
it might be a new iteration of the guardians too.
Like they might have like a phase two team where it's a different team,
but there's still the guardians.
I think that's kind of how it works in the comics.
Wasn't he going to have a ravagers movie too too before all that shit popped off i think he was supposed
to have like he might have yeah the ravagers from at the end of two when you see them i think like
stallone was interested and basically everyone that was there all the big names i think were
into it and then the whole fucking world lost its mind so i feel like you could find someone to make
that movie that could have that james gunn Gunn tone but do something different with it.
If it's not the Guardians.
The Guardians are his thing.
But if you did a Ravagers thing, I feel like you could nail that tone.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
But it's like I always just get so scared.
I'm like, you have to make it good though because it's the characters we don't care about.
I don't know if we could definitely pull it off.
You got to nail it.
That's what they did with the original you know yeah they took a bunch of characters that most of us
were like who the fuck is this i only knew i think in the original i only knew rocket raccoon
because he was in some of the marvel versus capcom games so i was like oh i know him from that and i
knew like people that were really into those games and like mained as rocket raccoon like that was
their main fighter or whatever.
So I knew him through that.
And I was like,
Oh,
they're making a movie at that fucking Rocket Raccoon guy.
Cool.
And blew me away.
One of my favorites to this day,
I'm actually writing a blog as we speak,
that might be up by the time this podcast goes up.
It's it's let me read the headline out for everyone.
It's titled,
um,
would James Cameron just shut the fuck up already?
Um, out for everyone it's titled um would james cameron just shut the fuck up already um and i'm gonna bring guardians up uh right away in that block in that you say all these you know
marvel had to 26 movies to establish their characters the first guardians movie in my
opinion is a better movie on every fucking level than avatar and i like avatar i'm one of the
few people that stands up for avatar when people shit on it and i go no it's actually not a bad
movie it's pretty good actually like i enjoyed it in the theater i enjoyed it at home i'll go
see avatar 2 i think it's going to be a good movie but shut the fuck up about marvel movies i'm going
to kick this guy's ass clem we're trying're trying not to like, you know, we should like
James Cameron. He's done a lot of stuff we like,
but he keeps opening his big, dumb, old
fucking mouth. Stupid shit every time.
Stupid shit every time. And it's like,
dude, have you watched, like, it's just, he
sounds like a guy who's just never watched them. And you want to
say some of the movies are like that? Sure, no problem.
But don't act, listen, I enjoyed
my Avatar experience in the theater. I think
I saw it twice. I think I saw it on IMAX and then like regular 3d or whatever and it was like holy shit this is
mind-blowing shit at the time though as soon as i'm there i go i'll never watch that movie again
because it just did nothing for me other than like the the the visual masterpiece that it was
this has some of that these movies and they actually do have fucking heart with this
franchise i think being the epitome of it and then let alone like infinity war infinity war i'm still mad that didn't get
like that should have gotten the buzz that black panther got for like best picture and all that
agreed in my opinion and and it's like the the comments he makes piss me off because it's the
way he goes about it like when tarantino says there's no movie stars anymore even the marvel
people like the characters of the stars i actually took that and i've been thinking about it i'm like
that's an interesting point because like you see robert downey jr goes and does fucking do little
and it it is nothing you know like nobody cares about that movie so maybe iron man is the star i
took that and i was like it's an interesting point to make a movie making James Cameron's just like
those movies are doodoo and avatars,
the greatest cinema masterpiece of all.
It's like avatar dude.
If it's fucking Scorsese saying it,
I even take it with a grain of salt because I'm like,
you know what?
He made fucking casino.
He made good fellas.
He made the departed.
This is Scorsese talking.
He's on that next level.
Avatar.
We're talking about avatars on that next level. Avatar we're talking about?
Avatar's not on that next level.
It's just not.
Sound like you're very close.
Avatar's like a movie, like fucking a Marvel movie.
It's exactly the same fucking thing.
If you told me Avatar is part of the MCU, I'm like, oh, yeah, that kind of makes sense.
They all fucking Namor's people.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah yeah i basically did that they basically just like yeah we're gonna make your stupid movie
canon and our shit and more people are gonna watch our movie than they're gonna watch your movie which
has to like be like what was it the second most uh fourth the fourth best-selling movie in the
history of the box office just to break even that is which i asked jeff d loves like do you think
it's gonna make the movie the money that they're thinking it's going to make?
And he said yes.
Wow.
I mean, I will go see it because, again, I will not just not – we did Terminate Cameron.
That was an old early –
Yeah, we terminated him.
We terminated him.
He kind of terminated us back because he put Avatar out again.
I got that one spot.
That was bullshit.
We all know that was – again, Kevin Smith opens up the Infinity War
and Endgame doubleheader.
We'll really blow him back.
What is it?
No, we will, what is it?
Terminate him.
Yeah, we'll terminate him.
We'll Judgment Day him.
Judgment Day.
Judgment Day.
That's all I'm going to say.
But it's like, come on, man.
I will go see it, but I'm not going to enjoy it, James.
I'm not going to enjoy it one bit.
I enjoyed this fucking holiday special.
All right.
Avatar or the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special?
Oh, holiday special.
Easily.
Isn't that crazy?
More memorable, better moments.
Yeah.
This fucking guy is acting like he's making all the,
and listen, the old James Cameron has made a ton of awesome shit,
but the movie you're defending here isn't even as good
as something Disney threw on their streaming service that's like 50 minutes long and not even yeah yeah crazy crazy
makes me mad so how much did you like the guardians of the galaxy holiday special in terms of a fast
food review okay so i had a couple different ways, a couple different items in my mind. Basically, this is how I'm treating it.
It is a holiday special item.
It is a seasonal item.
I'm going with it.
I don't even know if it's seasonal anymore, but it was back in the day was the Dunkin
Donuts white hot chocolate.
Oh, yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah, that was a good one, Bob.
That was a good one.
I'm glad you went with that.
I was afraid you were going to veto my pick, but my pick is so similar to yours that you're not going to veto it.
Continue with yours, though.
There's a lot of different ways.
You know, I'm personally a person who I think peppermint is like the flavor
of Christmas or whatever.
So I was trying to think of something there.
And I think they do have peppermint as well.
But back in the day, the White Hot Chocolate, I look forward to it.
I always enjoyed it. I really didn't have to have it any other time of year which this
i wouldn't just watch on like a july i could watch die hard in july which we're not even getting into
the diehard christmas movie argument which by the way thank god oh r.i.p our boy um thea yeah
goddamn legend uh son what's his son's not sunset who is he in in top gun do you remember
oh i don't remember his call sign no yeah it's it's suns goddamn anyway r.i.p an absolute legend
but i could watch die hard anytime here i can't watch this movie anytime a year because it it
insists upon the holiday season where die hard it kind of just plays a role in the background the background. I had another one that I switched to because I think it's a little bit
more of a niche item, but I think this is even better. Dunkin' Donuts, white hot chocolate.
Bob, what do you got? I'm going right across the street to Starbucks and getting a peppermint mocha.
The peppermint mocha is a very great seasonal item, pretty much for all the same reasons you
said yours. I'm saying peppermint mocha on mine. can't watch this in the summer i can't drink a peppermint mocha in the summer it's a christmas flavor i'm
gonna get it every christmas though and i see myself watching the guardians of the galaxy
christmas special as a tradition from here on out yeah i think we're gonna throw it in the rotation
and listen we've tried to give the kids some of like our old favorites which granted an eight and
a four-year-old their their their tastes are a which granted an eight and a four-year-old,
their tastes are a little rougher.
I mean, the eight-year-old kind of is more likely to warm up,
but Christmas Story, that just got shot down immediately.
Yeah, they got into it by the end though.
AJ was really into the whole idea of the BB gun, not shockingly.
And Sienna kind of just liked some of the silly stuff.
I love Christmas Story.
That's one that I got to watch Christmas Day though.
I do the marathon.
I'll throw it on as soon as I wake up.
I used to always do – it was the checklist.
Elf, Home Alone, Christmas Story.
And then like the Rudolph and the Frosties would be lower.
They kind of over time maybe disappeared.
The Charlie Brown one.
But those are kind of some of the big ones there.
But this one, I think it's definitely in the rotation.
My other fast food thing, because I feel like there are,
I was going to say Shamrock Shake just because it is another seasonal item.
But I think I've said that for another movie in the past.
And I don't know if this is as good.
The Shamrock Shake, it's like an event when it used to come out.
I love the Shamrock Shake.
I get it every single year.
I pay attention to the first day where it comes back and I'll get it on the
first day. Really? Yeah. I'll usually tweet about it. I pay attention to the first day where it comes back and I'll get it on the first day.
Really?
Yeah.
I'll usually tweet about it.
I try to alert people like it's back.
And then the McDonald's holiday pie.
Have you ever had those?
No.
So it's like a apple pie McDonald's except it has, I think it's like custard and like
some sprinkles in it.
I'd never heard of it until last year.
It was pretty good, but this movie was not as good as the holiday pie McDonald's.
So, okay.
I like that we're in lockstep. I want everyone and everyone in the comments.
Let me hear your your your fast food review for the movie.
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the galaxy volume 3 trailer um guardians have new uniforms in this trailer um they land on some
crazy alien animal planet and drax throws a kickball looking thing at a
girl's face so hard that man i said it pissed me off that this was in the trailer because it was
so funny that i was like oh that would be a huge laugh in the theater counter earth i believe is
what it's called counter earth counter earth yep that's what i was reading uh in like the
write-ups about it which i had no idea is a thing but But I was so, I'm like, oh, we're back home.
We're on Earth.
And then I'm like, what the fuck?
And then that joke, like you said, it does, you're like, oh, man,
that would have killed in the theater.
But at the same point, it also brought me to the trail.
It's like, oh, yeah, this is the kind of movie we're getting here.
We're getting shit that kind of comes out of nowhere.
It's like a little, it's like PG to PG-13, like, humor.
But done where a point where I can watch with my kids and I'll be like, oh, you know, cover your eyes.
But it's still just, I mean, just fucking just nails that girl in the face.
Nailing someone in the face with a kickball.
It's so funny.
That's so goddamn funny.
Space Hog hits.
In the meantime, great, great, great song.
And a cool version of it.
Kind of like they remixed Goodbye Yellow Brick Road for the Ant-Man trailer. They kind of did the same thing. It kind of like they remixed goodbye yellow brick road for the
ant-man trailer they kind of did the same thing it kind of sounds classical it sounds epic it
sounds huge and we see a lot of rocket raccoon focus stuff for sure in this we see rocket as a
baby remember where you came from we know we're going to get to see his origin a little bit in
this one we see lots of uh gamora as well she's looking at pictures we know she's gonna be reintroduced to
the guardians in this one guardians in some colorful spacesuits people were tweeting that
they look like among us characters it was very funny they did look like that uh adam warlock
we also see for the first time ever he looks great i think he looks really good although i can't
unsee that actor's face as the character
he's in where the millers 100 that's a little tough but i'm sure you know he's a good actor
i'll get past that at some point and it ends on a big we are group moment we are group like his
father said in the first guardians this is i'm gonna do my uh clemm A. Smith. This is bad. This is very bad.
I'm so excited for these fucking guys to be back on the big screen.
So that was yesterday afternoon, Thursday afternoon.
Kids come back from school.
I'm just sitting there on Twitter, ignoring them as much as I can.
And then I just see the trailer comes out.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I even texted him.
I'm like, yo, did you see what came out?
He's like, oh, I've been doing videos.
I'm like, Bob. And I just sent you. I was like, yo, did you see what came out? You're like, oh, I've been like doing videos. I'm like, Bob.
And I just sent you, I was like, the Guardians just dropped.
We had a full-blown fucking like family sit-down watch party.
And we watched it like three times over, just grinning ear to ear the entire time.
The Drax thing just fucking made us crack up every single time.
But I'm like, you poor children have no idea.
You are, I mean, we're losing people.
There will be blood, right are gonna die um the barstool sports book death odds for this
movie as of right now as of friday december 2nd the favorite in the clubhouse is is it rocket
yeah it's rocket it makes sense a lot of money for money for Bradley Cooper. It's felt like rocket kind of had like,
he's kind of like the animal Yondu as we learned,
right?
The furry Yondu Yondu already bit the bullet in this trailer.
You can see his childhood.
It's going to be a lot about him.
I imagine this motherfucking high evolutionary is going to have it out for
him and feels like rockets kind of been living on borrowed time when he
stole those batteries who those people are obviously coming back.
So I feel, and it's like, we always talk about it.
The, oh, it's my last day on the job.
Oh, it's retirement.
It doesn't feel good that Rocket had like four of those fucking lines in the trailer alone.
I know.
And tell you what, I think Drax is a goner as well.
That was number two in the Barstool Sportsbook.
So we'll put Rocket as maybe like a even money, maybe plus 100.
I think Drax is like plus 200.
I think didn't Batista say he's done with the M2.
I think so, yeah.
He's like, if James Gunn isn't doing it, I'm not doing it.
Yeah.
So that's kind of like.
Tells you where that's going.
When Black Panther, you know, turned to dust, it's like, he's gone.
It's like, no, no, no.
You know, Chadwick Boseman signed.
He will be back at some point.
So Drax is, I think, plus 200.
I think Gamora is back.
I don't think Peter is going anywhere.
I don't think you kill Gamora again, right?
If you kill her again, you have to keep killing her.
You have to bring her back and keep doing that.
And Kenny, yes.
From South Park, yeah.
You need to keep doing that.
I am intrigued to see her.
Like, I'm so. Klin craglin craglin
dies in a big moment where he goes out doing the arrow or something like that like i don't want to
see him die but i could see it i mean it's james gunn's brother yeah because you imagine he's gonna
probably get some cush job at dc at some point doing some stuff and i don't think there's gonna
be any hard like ill will towards him but i don't know how much he'll be involved.
I,
I would love to see him like rise up in the ranks,
but he is that perfect bit character.
So maybe they just say,
cause the guardians,
I feel like there's going to be two to three of the old ones.
And then a whole bunch of new ones coming if they do it for in the
future,
which they have,
you don't kill again.
We are group though,
which I'm like,
if that wasn't in the trailer, I'd be concerned about it.
But you can't be like, oh, I just spoiled his death.
Yeah, you got to keep Groot alive.
You got to see Groot all the way back to an old man again, like his dad.
And then Adam Warlock, like by the end of the movie, is he a hero?
I think we get Adam Warlock hero or like ambiguous, you know, right in the middle.
Probably be a big part of Secret Wars, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And I know he was a huge part of Infinity War, which obviously he wasn't around for.
His head, what's in his head?
Is it the Eagle Stone?
Is it fucking, someone said, little Uzi Vert's fucking or whatever it is.
I don't know what that is.
It could just be some sort of a battery, right?
I mean, like the way those people rock. He's got it in the comics i'm sure it's you
know big thing we're getting really weird and really spacey in this phase the phase by the way
i got really fucking excited for this upcoming phase between this we had a little ant-man promo
yesterday and then you just look at the way everything's been going and i feel like it's
some we're getting a little bit more magic like we we had with Agatha and WandaVision.
And then like the Black Knight stuff.
It's going to be an Ironheart as well.
Yeah.
Yes.
However, I think it's going to get really spacey.
As we learned in the Doctor Strange after credits.
And stuff like that.
Which one was the one where we met Thanos' half-brother?
Was that Eternals post-credits?
Eternals post-credits was eternals post-credits was maybe yeah yeah i think so so uh
pip or whatever his name is so i think we're going to be getting a lot of weird and i think this is
going to be a big part of that here and this was what i i tripped on before this i think they have
ravagers they're the ravagers they have like a ravagers sweet outfit is that the uniform that
they're wearing they're wearing the Ravagers seal at least.
However, my wife said, she goes, they have the Ravagers on?
I'm like, oh shit, good call.
I'm like, would you put a pass?
I don't think Quill would ever just steal the Ravagers look,
but there's probably a story behind it that it's not what you think it's going to be.
I'm also very happy we have nice Nebula here instead of old.
I was so annoyed with old bitchy Nebula.
She was the fucking bits
but this new post-endgame nebula i like having her around made this nebula even better though
you know it's the payoff of like all right she gave rocket the arm she's got a warm heart it's
like a grinch's heart yes exactly exactly and i am i every time i see gamora though i just get so
bummed we don't have like the one that went through all the um stories and stuff to kind of soften her up and make her fun because she was pretty awesome
and it makes that uh that infinity war death just even worse every time you see it now the
nebula is back not sucking what do you think about high evolutionary I think he looks very cool
especially with like the skin stretched out by his his like the top of his thing I don't know
much about the character other than what we've been told though i haven't read any of the comics with him in it or anything like that so yeah i'm
looking forward to him i think his actual look is awesome i think he's gonna be a fucking bastard
who we hate he's gonna be like we're just you know view as a guy experimenting on animals that's
what he's doing yeah there's some fucked up michael vick kind of shit going on with this guy
so i don't think i'm not like i don't think we're ever going to like him. And then he turns on us kind of like ego.
Oh, this guy seems pretty nice.
Who is it?
In the first one, who was the, the, the accuser, the accuser, the accuser, the accuser.
I love that line.
It's more like him.
We're like, oh, this guy's a scumbag.
He's going to be a pain in the ass.
And he just wants to wipe a bunch of people off the world.
And I think this guy is going to take a few of our favorites away from us so fuck the high evolutionary and
they'll probably keep them around yeah hey probably will first nerd podcast in the universe say fuck
the high evolutionary we're against them anyone the silence is deafening from all the other nerd
podcasts unsubscribe from them unsubscribe from their youtube for their podcast they are pro high
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You unsubscribe from us instead
Because we don't like him
We don't like this fucking guy
He's a problem
This is bad
This is very bad
You're saying all this now
But you fall for the villains time and time again
Well Robbie
That was my second point
We had
I guess it was the same day
They had the Comic Con Brazil thing They had was the same day they had the Comic-Con Brazil thing or whatever.
They had a brief little, and it was like an Ant-Man.
They didn't really like give anything new.
It was kind of like a recap of Ant-Man, right?
It was like a 30, 90 second trailer.
But our boy Jonathan Majors came on stage and I'm going to put it on the YouTube right now for everyone to see it.
Look, listen to this audience, people.
Bob.
The way he's hyping them up, too, when he's got stage presence and all.
Yeah.
Jonathan Majors is going to be fucking awesome.
He's going to eat up that screen time.
Oh, it's going to be so much fun.
It's just going to be all him and all these different roles. It's going to eat up that screen time. Oh, it's going to be so much fun. It's just going to be all him and all these different roles.
It's going to be so fucking weird.
I'm probably not going to understand a lot of it until I read or watch a YouTube explaining everything to me.
But I can't wait for the big K-Man to come and fuck some shit up.
As long as it's not the Guardians.
So, fuck The High Evolutionary.
But, I mean, Kang is here, baby.
Kang is coming.
He's ready to fuck some shit up.
And, by the way, fucking Sylvie. Kang is coming. He's ready to fuck some shit up. And by the way,
fucking Sylvie. This fucking bitch. Just think of all the shit she's gonna do
to these innocent characters. Our boy Ant-Man
is gonna get killed. I actually, that
would be funny. I'm gonna change my
hope. I hope
Ant-Man becomes the Kenny who gets killed
with a hundred. Wouldn't that be
funny, though? Paul Rudd would play that so well.
I love Ant-Man. I wanna see him die not even once yeah but like the first time it's gonna hurt the second
time it's really gonna hurt the third time hurts a little less the 15th time we're like this is
it'll start getting funny when he's like the size of an ant someone accidentally steps on him yeah
exactly you just see paul rudd like here we go again. All right. That was our Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special and trailer recap, review, breakdown, whatever you want to call it.
If you want to see us break down the Indiana Jones 5 trailer, head on over to the YouTube.
Or if you're already at the YouTube, we'll have that on a separate video.
So check that out as well.
And we will talk to you guys next week with another podcast
in the holiday season.