My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 283 - GIRLFRIENDS (BONUS INTERVIEW)

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

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Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3G and Barstool Sports. I am your host Robbie Fox, and today I've got a special bonus interview for you. Tomorrow me and Clem will be back, we'll talk about Across the Spider-Verse, the Succession finale. But today, I'm bringing you an interview with a band called Girlfriends. It's two guys, Travis Mills and Nick Gross. You may know Travis Mills from his MTV career, from his Apple Music show, from his old career as T-Mills.

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It's out. I think it's awesome. Is it out? It is out. It's out. And you've put out a ton of music over a pretty short period of time, since 2020. This is the third release, and if you count the deluxe edition,

I guess the fourth, right? Yeah. Did we add it up? I think it was 34 songs. 35 songs since we've been a band. I think it was 34 songs. 35 songs since we've been a band. I think it's 35 songs. 35 songs in less than three years. And do you guys,

are you guys just constantly in the studio writing and recording? Like, do you guys have a backlog of more of these songs or have you just put out everything you've recorded? No, there's definitely, there's a lot more songs that we haven't released. I think we have a Dropbox somewhere

with a bunch of records. But, you know, specifically about this EP, this was the most, I think, intentional we've ever been going in to make music. And we didn't even finish ideas that we didn't like, which isn't like us. In the past, we've just made a bunch of songs and seen which ones we liked the most

and put those out. With this, I think we made seven ideas. Five came out. The other two didn't even get finished so these five songs we were like okay these are great they need to come out let's do it and was there like a specific intention with this was it just let's get music out or was it I want to make a statement here I want to chase down a certain sound I think I mean everything we do obviously has like a purpose and intent right I think we always want to put new music out just because that's the kind of world that we live in today

but when we went into the studio we didn't even know we were going to make an EP we got to work with Andrew Goldstein who's a new producer for us he was someone that we've always wanted to work with I mean he's worked with MGK and All Time Low and Blink and we we had one session with him we made a song and we loved it. We're like, okay, let's just keep making more. Before we knew it, we had the EP. What was the first song? A song called Talk was the first song that we ever did. Which kicks the EP off.

Kicks the EP off. Yeah. Really cool. I think that happens a lot to us maybe. Like Jessica on the first album, I think was one of the first songs we wrote too. It was close to it to it but yeah Talk was the first one on this EP and in pop punk I feel like such a big part of the sound is chasing down that nostalgic sound but then you guys also push it forward and create that kind of new age sound thank you how do you balance that I don't know if it's anything that we're like trying to do in the moment in the studio i think what it is is like nick and i are we're students of the genre right we're like two kids who grew up in southern california listening

to this music like through and through i mean just like you man it's like you can't fake the funk like if you grew up listening to these bands you you know you grew up in the scene um and i think it just comes out whenever you whenever we get behind a drum kit, a guitar, a microphone because that's how we are raised. Yeah. Obviously, I know your influences. You wear them on your sleeve. What are your sonic influences when it comes to actually drum sounds

or guitar sounds or tones like that? I don't know. I don't think we go in with like an intentional I think that kind of evolves in the we're not that smart Robbie that's the thing producers yeah I mean I think it evolves naturally like especially for drums you know if I'll record a drum part for a song or lay down drums for a complete song or a couple of them and then i start to tweak how snares sound and how tom sound and whatnot i like to have things kind of like clear poppy crispy i don't know like in front of the mix i think we try and be intentional about how we mix things where like his vocal and you know drums are kind of at the front of every mix because there's two people in

the band um and so things like that but i think it evolves like we're not you know we also like to sneak little things in there like sonically you know i'll show you something that we got to put on this ep um with our our guitar player dan and it was really good and it's it's hidden in the ep so you have to really this is a you to really listen to it um to hear it but it's like we like kind of fucking around in the studio and doing stuff like this. So I'll play for you. Ready? Yep That's in there yeah, no we put it under the snare of every track Yeah, it's like layers. You could probably MIDI that as a snare at one point. We ran it through a reverb chain Yeah, and like a crazy delay.

An echo chamber. Yeah, it was a whole situation. And so, you know, that's the kind of conversations we're having in the room. It's not really about like what kind of EQ or compressor. It's like what can we get away with to push the genre forward. Yeah, and that pushes it forward. Farts. And moving backwards all at the same time absolutely

i also like you snuck a little knife sound in there on the second track yeah whose idea was that yeah i think that was goldstein's idea that was like some samurai sword shit that just blew all of our minds he was watching some anime he was watching uh he's watching hentai dude oh yeah yeah he's a big hentai guy and uh uh big pokemon guy yeah and yeah he like put it in there we're like oh shit that's actually really dope super dope yeah i saw you guys open up for mod sun in williamsburg last year oh you were there i was there yeah awesome show and you guys crushed it like the crowd was absolutely vibing with every single song you guys played that was like crazy that was like our fifth or sixth show as a band we're going back there on sunday yeah yeah that's where our show is but but on the mod tour it was like because

that was in 2021 that was like when the world like first opened up we were kind of like the science experiment for concerts again and um you know when we put out our first record at the end of 2020 there was no live shows and so when we got to hit the road i mean it was like yeah we had been a band for not even a year and so we got to go you know play these incredible shows and it was so cool to actually see real people standing there singing songs that we released when the world was you know locked down and we couldn't do anything but that's awesome dude that venue was amazing so cool so intimate like yeah very cool do you guys feel like you got exponentially better over the course of that tour since it was your first tour?

I got worse. Or did you hit the ground running? I got worse. Travis gets worse. I get better over time. Yeah. Basically, that's what happens. That's why we're good bandmates,

because we equal each other out. Nick picks up the slack. I slack off. And then we just kind of stay in this neutral zone. Yeah, it's like a teeter totter. And do you find yourself now writing, thinking about playing these songs live or are you still writing? I think we're going to more now because I think Travis has this beautiful

tendency to like write a lot of lyrics. I write too many lyrics. So I think for album three, we're going to like make the most simple stuff ever and make that a challenge for ourselves. We're going to get more dumb. Go to that Blink-182 nursery rung. Correct. More na-nas.

Yes. A lot less words because it's really hard to sing live. Yeah. And how do you write your hooks? Because your hooks are super catchy. Thanks, man. Do you write the hooks first? Do you add the music later? So sometimes.

I write a lot in my iPhone Notes app where I stored that fart sample from our guy Dan. Yep. But yeah, dude, sometimes I'll be driving. I like giving it the respect of calling it a sample,

not a sound. It's a sample. Yeah. It's a flatulent sample. But yeah, dude, whenever inspiration strikes, I'll pull out my phone. I'll write it down in the notes.

I'll pull out a voice memo. Or sometimes Nick and whoever we're in the studio with will start music and something will come. You never really know. And I think that's the cool thing about being an artist or a creative. It's not about when inspiration will strike. It's what you do about it when it does. Because I feel like there's so many ideas that I've kind of missed out on because I just like wasn't paying attention I was like oh I'll think about

it tomorrow and then you know you wake up the next day and you forget whatever it was so it's trying to capture lightning in a bottle and that's kind of all I'm trying to pay attention to right now were there any different inspirations for this one that kind of came out of left field for this most recent EP I think this EP

dude it's like it's like sassy you know it is yeah tongue in cheek it's fun came in the room every day with a ton of sass yeah yeah i have a lot of sassy videos from this man i fucking cat walked in there dude he was singing country lyrics he's like we should make a country record we just had fun and i think it was cool because we didn't have the intention of making an album you You know, we'd like, like you said, like we put out two albums in two years. Um, and as a new band, we just, we wanted some time to really like breathe and think about the music we wanted to make. But at the same time we wanted to release songs. And so we thought, you know, this EP, this, this batch of new music was the way to go. I would love to go through the track list here

and just talk about each song with you guys. Okay, let's do it. Starts with Talk. As you said, it was the first one that came from it, and it's a pretty sassy song off the bat. It's fucking sassalicious. You are a sassy man.

What do you got to say about Talk? Where did that come from? I think Talk is just one of those songs that everyone can relate to, whether you have a falling out with a friend, whether you break up with someone inevitably if someone's hurt they're gonna go and they're gonna talk shit and when it gets back to you that's just kind of how you feel

it's like a song about betrayal it's a song about something that was once good that no longer isn't and it's about wanting someone to shut the fuck up see? Sassy. Yeah, very sassy. Over my dead body, the next one with the knife sample on that. They're the samurai hentai sword sample.

Dude, when we were making it, I was like, this is like Charlie Puth pop punk. Because it's so poppy in terms of the chords chords and just like the melody and the construction um and goldstein like turned my voice into a synth which was really cool i was gonna say there's a lot of like reverb sound stuff on your voice on this ep right yeah yeah and i was singing in a lower register and i think it's i have a tendency to be a bit over dramatic um you know which is why it starts off with like people like you make me want to die that's a great pop punk lyric yeah yeah and that what's cool is like that song's been going off live so it obviously yeah people can relate to have you played all these live yet or no

um no we've we've been playing britney we've been playing plastic we've been playing over my dead nice yeah plastic i love what a way to kick it like end it not kick it off thank you man but such a crashing end. Britney, though, one that starts off slow. It's the only one that starts off a little softer, but then obviously the drums come crashing in by the end. Nick wanted to do something a little more stripped back, and we felt like that was kind of the perfect record.

And the cool thing about that song is we were sitting in the studio. We had tried to make like five ideas that day. Couldn't really make anything. We started just some ideas. And I was talking to him and Andrew and I was like, you know, life's a bitch. Her name is Brittany.

And they're like, okay. And I was like, yeah, like, so like we can't say that, but something like that. And they like looked at me and they're like,

why, why can't you say that? And really like kind of took me out of like my, my own head and like my tendency to overthink and think everything needs to be some like big grand you know epiphany yeah and so i think that's just the most like brain to mouth out into the you know out into the room kind of lyric and it's super fun it's once again sassy it's fun yeah like you said those are kind of the coolest songs sometimes because i remember for album two for missing you a track on there

that was the craziest thing i've ever seen we like went into a room there was a foundation for a track and then we were like let's try this experiment where you've never heard the track before just go get in the vocal booth and just whatever comes out first without even hearing it and then that was the song missing you it was like the first take it was like the chorus he sang the melody came out without him even hearing the song i pulled a jay-z it was like serendipity yeah yeah i got my jay i got my jay-z on yeah for a second who do you think since you started this band this endeavor has been the person to give you the best advice in it? Oh, that's a good question.

Yeah. You've gotten to work with so many, like, great people in this space, obviously, from Feldman to Travis to, you know, going on tour with Motson. Feldy's just, like, the honorary third member of the band. I mean, and that dude, he's made some of our favorite records that we grew up listening to.

He's just a wealth of knowledge, not only like just music, but like just as a human, you know, like I know when we were making the first record, I was going through a really tough time in life. And I want some days I'd show up to the studio crying, like literally like bawling. Some days I'd be laughing. Some days I'd be like super depressed and quiet. And we would just like have coffee and he'd just ask me how I was doing and I mean we would just talk about life and I mean I still call him to this day just to kind of you know if I'm going through something or asking you know what he would do and I feel like he's a really good person to have in our corner because I mean

he's been through it you know goldfinger and we call him yeah we call him Uncle Feldophagus now because of that yeah does he play bass on all your stuff Feldy plays everything yeah sometimes

so does Nick though oh really yeah Nick's on on every instrument man he's hopping from keys to bass to guitar do you guys have a bass player live

no we don't if you need one we use tracks I mean it might evolve to that you know might evolve to that you play bass yeah okay we have a pop punk band it might evolve to that, you know? It might evolve to that. You play bass?

Yeah. Okay. We have a pop punk band here at Barstool. Do you? There's four of us that started a band. We all played in bands growing up. So we started a band called Pup Punk because our boss is from Boston. He can't say pop.

It's just his accent. And we kind of just make fun of pop punk bands, but also do covers. We're playing a festival this summer. Are you? Yeah. Okay, can you give me like a song title where you're like making fun of someone?

So like we're making fun of just the idea of some pop punk ideology. So like My Real Girlfriend is our biggest song and it's like she's a model you don't know her

she lives in Canada where it's colder I'm in love and you're not. My Real Girlfriend's really hot. Dude I fucking love that. We got a song called Just One Christmas

where we're upset with our parents for staying together because our divorced friends get to celebrate Christmas twice. Oh, my God. Stuff like that. So if you need an opener, if you need a bass player, pop punk girlfriend. Dude, that's incredible. Yeah, you have to send us some music.

I will. That's incredible. Where do you get inspiration for the songs? Pretty much like Blink-182, Simple Plan, Sum 41, that era of pop punk. And then our shows, we'll do like a show with like 24 songs. We'll play three originals and the rest are just covers that everyone loves. That's amazing. So it's a party, you know?

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and then you go back for a little bit, and 20 minutes into Avril's set, Nick hops behind the kid, I come out, and we get to sing a song that obviously influenced all of us to start making music and to watch like 12 000 people every single night who don't even necessarily speak the same language just go off yeah i mean it was unreal and avril would like walk off stage to go do an outfit change and like she would just like leave me up there and i would just be there and happen though halfway through the tour yeah she would just be like no you stay up there like I'm gonna go change and like have fun and like I told I told Nick I'm like you realize nobody else would ever do that there's no headliner in the world that here's the stay on stage it's my show I'm gonna go what I would do because I would hop

off the kit at the end of the song. And then Avril would, you know, run away and get ready for her next stuff. And I'd go to the front of the stage just so I could watch Travis perform on the stage because it was just so dope. I was like a fan like, oh, Travis. That's awesome. It was so cool. I had confetti cannons. I was shooting a cryo gun.

It was like absolutely insane. And we took, you know, kind of had to take it all in because we're like, do you realize like no other artist would ever let like a direct support act do that? Yeah. That's so cool. You got that experience. Yeah. And it was a really cool moment, you know, with all the fans and stuff like that. And obviously, I mean, the tour was a dream come true. Yeah.

Shout out Avril, the queen of pop punk. Yes. Thanks anyway. The next song on this ep where did that one come from last song uh that we made for the ep it kind of came in like right at the last second um and it was a an idea that was started by our friend mitchie collins he sings in a band called lovely the band oh yeah love lovely yeah and uh he sent it to to nick and i and was like yo do you guys like this idea that we had? And it was like a guitar demo.

And we really did. It was super cool. Is it just that main riff that he sent? Yeah. No, no. It's the hook and everything. Yeah. And, you know, the I'm good.

Thanks anyway. And we took it to Goldstein and we're like, dude, what do you think about this? And we all loved it. And so Mitchie came to Andrew's house and we made that dude what do you what do you think about this and we all loved it and so mitchie came came to andrew's house um and we we made that song and we did it at first i was just like okay cool it's like really it's really simple now it's like it's one of my favorite songs yeah on the ep and i feel like it kind of takes me back to like when i was 15 you know listening to my favorite bands and something just getting stuck in your head and singing it over and over and over with like that angst um and yeah dude it was great and it was also the only other song on the on the ep that we worked with like another person outside of you

me that's right yeah we typically don't do a lot of that but that was what it was for that song happy we did it and then the final one plastic this one goes as hard as any of them. Dude, I mean, this was the craziest. I had a video of Travis in the studio doing like, maybe we were plastic and we pretend. It started off as a country song. For real? I was just, dude,

we were just, we were delusional and I was just making fun. I had this like weird accent. Yeah. And sometimes Travis and I go into this full random accent. And we were maybe plastic. We were pretend, like romantic movies that we watched just to make you happy. Oh, watch out, Morgan Wallen.

A little song with a little tune. Make you stop screaming when you got mad at me. I'm a little bit hurt, but you're a little bit worse. Plastic. And so I was like, dude, what the fuck are we going to do? That's that y'all the small things shit. Exactly. And I mean, dude, it's like from a songwriter's perspective,

it's just one of the coolest songs. And I remember like, yeah, I was like stuck that day. We couldn't really get a good idea. And then the word plastic just kind of popped into my head. And I mean, within like 30, 40 minutes, we wrote the song. I still think we need to find a country artist to feature on it. That would be so cool. That'd be great.

There's been a couple of that in like pop punk recently with State Champs. Just did it with Mitch Tenpany. Yeah, for sure. That's like becoming a subgenre. And I've been listening to that Morgan Wallen album nonstop. Have you? All 40 songs? Yeah, dude, it's so crazy.

I haven't heard it. It's such a good album. You think we put out a lot of music. That's absolutely insane. 36 is too much for an album. It's a lot. But I fly on airplanes a lot, so it's cool because you just press play and forget about it. Next thing you know, you went from L.A. to New York, and you listened to the album.

You listened to a quarter of the album. No, but I always like artists giving us a lot of music. You give us a lot of music as well. Final question before I get you out of here. I ask this to all artists that I interview. Noel Gallagher once said he summed up everything he wanted to say in life with three songs, Cigarettes and Alcohol, Rock and Roll Star, and Live Forever. If you could choose three girlfriend songs

that sum up everything you've ever wanted to say, which three would you choose? Do you want to know what's crazy really quick? What? Not to cut you off. I got asked if I wanted

to interview Noel Gallagher for my Apple Music show. Get out of here. I said no. Because I'm scared. No. Dude, no. What, getting him to talk shit on you? No. That's a badge of No. Dude, no.

What, getting him to talk shit on you? No, dude. That's a badge of honor. Dude, he's just like. You said no? I said no. I could still do it, but yesterday. Do it. Do it.

Yesterday, dude. You have to do it. Yesterday, they're like, crazy question. Do you want to have Noel Gallagher on your show because he's dropping new music? And I was like, oh, fuck. I'm going to fuck this up. And then I. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Maybe I need to. Maybe I need to rethink it. You have to. He'll give you the best sound bites ever. He'll be like, yo, you're a fucking idiot. Yes. Let's go. The worst band in the world.

You're a complete bum. Quit making music. I got lit forever on my collarbone here. Like, if you're watching this, it's just because I respect you too much. He ain't watching this. Yeah, too much. He ain't watching this. He ain't watching. You don't think he watches Barstool? He don't watch My Mom's Basement. He don't mess with it.

Three songs, three girlfriend songs that you think sum up everything that we've wanted to say. That's tough. Travis doesn't even know the name of our song. I don't even know the words. He doesn't even know the words. We're a brand new band and I already need a teleprompter. Yeah.

A lot of people do, to be honest. One day I will, but not yet. A lot of people do. I will say Where Were You is one of the most important songs that we have as a band because I feel like it really talks about a lot of the stuff that I was struggling with on the first record and really just this kind of dark place that I had to crawl out of. And I think now more than ever, it's important for people to know that everything isn't perfect and that's okay. And you have to work really hard to change your situation and your mental state.

And to build a community of people who listen to our music around that song has been really rewarding as a musician and just a person. So to give people something like that has been really cool. What about you, Nick? Pick number two. I don't know. I'll be I'll go the California route just because, you know, we're California kids. We got to represent California. That song somehow, you know, became our most popular song, I guess, in terms of listens and fans that like the song. I'll go with that. I don't listen to a lot of, like, lyrics.

When I hear music, I don't listen to lyrics first. I listen to, like, how the music sounds and, like, what's going on with parts, and that's kind of how I produce and make stuff, too. So I don't... I mean, I know the lyrics now because he sings them every night. I was going to say, if we did, like, a lyric quiz, would you do well on it? A girlfriend's lyric quiz?

I did that, actually, a couple weeks ago. Oh, you did? I got it right. Remember? Yeah, you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. So it's in my head.

I just don't. You know what I mean? I'm like a music, like how it sounds, how it makes me feel. This guy's layering the candy on top. All I pay attention to is words and melodies. I could give a fuck about the background. I'm like the opposite. Again, he's a yin-yang.

Yeah. Yeah. And I say, last but not least, what will I pick? I'm going to go with Plastic because I feel like it was an accomplishment for us as a band. And we are really proud of that song, you know, not just as girlfriends, but also as like songwriters to kind of, you know, walk out of there and be like, dude, this is a good, this is just like a good song. Yeah.

And so to have that one, you that one be a new one that's out that people can come to the shows and sing along with, and it's still brand new for it. We put it out seven days ago. A week ago, yeah. A week ago. So I can't wait to see how people connect to it and what it does live and the energy that it'll bring.

I thought you were going to say stay a while, dude. Every night. Every night there's people who want us to keep playing more songs you know, live and the energy that it'll bring. I thought you were going to say stay a while, dude. That's what I do. Every night we get there. There's like people who want us to keep playing more songs and we're not playing stay a while right now. And so our inside joke, we walk off stage and they start screaming one more song and I just look at him and I just go stay a while.

You've never said stay a while ever. He's on a stay a while kick. Is there, is there a country version of that song somewhere? The demo? Is there a recorded country version? On Nick's iPhone maybe. Layered under the fart sample. Yeah. You guys gotta release the country sample. People would love it. We'll do that.

It's like a whole thing right now going on. Alex Melton. You ever see that guy on YouTube? He does country covers. He's pretty sick. Just pop punk songs. Let's go. Maybe we send it to Alex. Send it to him. He'll do it. If pop punk songs. Let's go. Maybe we send it to Alex. Send it to him. He'll do it. If you watch this, hit us up. There you go.

That was Girlfriends, ladies and gentlemen. Go check out the new EP, Over My Dead Body. It's an awesome listen. Go check it out now. Go listen to pop punk. Go listen to pop punk.