My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 284 - 'ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE' REVIEW (PLUS SUCCESSION FINALE TALK)
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3Chi.
I am your host, Robbie Fox. Along with me is my co-host, Clem, from Earth 616.
And as you can see, if you're watching on YouTube, he's wearing, well, I don't know if I could say he's wearing a Spider-Man costume.
He's attempting to wear a Spider-Man costume.
I know in the first movie we heard like the mask always fits, the suit always fits.
Might not be the case here.
This is Spider-Clem attempting to wear AJ's little costume right here.
He just found this thing the other day.
I don't think he even knew Spider-Man was coming out.
So it's not going to fit me.
I think about first grade was the last time something like this would have fit me.
But, Bob, we have some spider fever here in the basement right now.
We are having a fucking – this is going to be fun.
I feel like we're going to have a fun one.
No spoilers.
We'll talk a little bit.
No spoilers.
Then spoilers.
Then our succession circle back.
Last one of all time
unfortunately but man what a movie what a movie this lived up to the hype it's so nice getting
a superhero movie that we anticipate like we anticipated this one and then to have it knock
it out of the park and i left that theater like stoked i left being like oh my god i cannot wait
for them to wrap up this trilogy
in i don't know i hope it's not another five years but these movies they're the most beautifully
animated movies ever so if it takes them five years to make these movies you know what take
the five years because oh my god what what a sore for the eyes this movie was the different
look for every different universe the way the characters meshed on screen together
not since who framed roger rabbit has there been a visual eyesore like this movie look for every different universe, the way the characters meshed on screen together.
Not since Who Framed Roger Rabbit has there been a visual eyesore like this movie.
Oh, wait, visual eyesore?
Isn't that a bad thing?
Is it?
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's a, I think it's a very bad thing.
Oh, no, I meant it as a good thing.
We're taking it back.
We're making it a good thing.
That reminds me, when I was young,
I asked my mom, I said,
Mom, is the word despicable a nice thing? And she's like, yeah. i i asked my mom i said mom um is the word
despicable a nice thing and she's like yeah like i don't think she heard me and i was like mom
you're despicable because i remember daffy duck used to always say it she's like what did you
just say and i went from trying to give the nicest compliment of all time to basically getting in
trouble uh eyesore is something bad it's not something beautiful uh let's see here i am
gonna look it up live on the pod uh eyesore a thing that is very ugly especially a building that figures the landscape but put that on the poster right there
this movie was an eyesore robbie fox barstool i didn't mean that i didn't mean that listen but
that's that's the hashtag for this week right away i mean eyesore hashtag eyesore 100 eye candy
it was like eye candy yes that's a perfect way to put it because it was bright like candy too.
When you go to Mumbaton and we meet Spider-Man India,
the whole look of that world, beautiful.
Then you get Gwen Stacy and it's the watercolor,
which is very much like her comic book and everything.
So cool.
Spider-Punk, my favorite design in the movie.
That sex pistols, patchy, cutout look, all the colors changing constantly.
Man, this was awesome.
Metal?
Metal.
Metal.
It was punk, but metal.
Punk.
Punk metal.
The villain, Spot.
I thought Spot was very well used in this movie.
And obviously you set up for a little more of Spot in the next movie.
No spoilers.
That's a little bit of a spoiler, I guess.
But I liked Spot.
I liked the way that they treated spider-man 2099
miguel o'hara oscar isaac what a role for him he wasn't in a lot of the movie but when he makes his
mark in the third act he makes it known that he is someone that i think is is not to be messed with
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Now let's get back into this across the Spider-Verse recap.
But everything about this movie I loved.
There was one issue I had.
Well, one issue with the movie, one issue with my experience.
My one issue with the movie, I think it was a little bit too long.
I think you could have chopped a little bit down, especially towards the end.
It did that Return of the King thing where there was like three or four moments where i thought
credits are about to hit and then there was another scene but my one issue with my across
the spider verse experience is i had a couple rowdy teens sitting right next to me in the theater
there's nothing worse than rowdy teens in a movie theater nothing worse and i knew it the
second they walked in one of them came right up to me like walked up to me during trailers
and loudly was like is this the theater for spider-man and his friends were like giggling
and i was just like oh god no he's one of those huh like yeah i was like yeah this is spider-man
and he's like thanks man thanks man he put out his hand to shake my hand.
I was just like, oh, it's going to be one of those movies, isn't it?
The second the Spider-Verse movie starts, they start screaming their heads off.
Nonsense.
Nothing to do with Spider-Man.
Not excitement for the movie.
Just like kids making kid noises.
I let out the most old man sigh I've ever let out.
I went, please don't ruin the movie for
us guys and one of them in response had the worst response ever he goes i watched it on youtube last
night don't worry which i was just like oh god i was like it's gonna be one of those and then for
the rest of the movie they didn't they were talking but they also just coughed and burped
as loud as they could throughout the movie.
And behind us, right behind us, we had a sick pervert.
And when I say a sick pervert, I don't mean he was like a jerking off sick pervert.
He might have taken an edible before this movie or something.
And it sounded like he was trying to repress his coughs throughout the movie.
Sounded like he was trying to cough, cough, cough.
But he was trying to hold them in so every i don't know maybe once twice a minute we would hear
like he was trying to hold it like making these weird almost sexual noises
clem this movie was awesome and it really speaks to how awesome it was that i still enjoyed it
i need to go back and get like an uninterrupted experience because I could
barely focus between the sick pervert and the rowdy teens.
Bob,
I don't like giving out free ads.
These motherfuckers never even contacted us after we went to see guardians.
That's why Alamo is the best.
You basically,
it's like two,
it's like two strikes.
You're out like they'll,
they'll warn you.
And then you get thrown out for talking,
for being on your phone.
They might not have even made it in the theater with the old handshake.
You know, those kids, they probably are laughing about it all this morning.
We were all dumb kids and did stupid shit at some point, but just the worst.
Let me tell you about my experience, Robbie.
I, uh, there was a bunch of, I only thought there was going to be, uh, like four showings
that day.
I thought premiere night and I didn't realize I didn't scroll down.
That was just the IMAX version.
Then there was the regular laser.
I ended up at the Dolby one that has the reclining seats like the fucking like premium sound i'm sure that my dumb
like half-deaf old ass can't even understand and i had a tremendous time by the end of it
me and the guy next to me he's like wait do you think i was like yeah i think this and we were
kind of like became pals in the theater it It was a beautiful time. So I have two very different experiences and both just, I mean, five out of five, 10 out of 10.
That was the thing going into this year.
I was excited for it because I really liked the first one.
Right.
So we just started to say spoilers at this point in case.
Spoilers.
Yeah, we'll get into it.
We're 10 minutes into the podcast.
Almost.
We can get it to spoilers.
Now, if you haven't seen the movie, go fucking see it.
What are you waiting for?
This movie was amazing.
It deserves your money.
A thousand animators worked on this project.
It deserves your money.
Go spend your probably $18 for a ticket.
And also, maybe you'll get a poster.
We got some posters.
Yeah, we got some posters there.
Fucking sweet.
Opening.
And it was at AMC.
So if you have an AMC, you might be better off or might just put in premiere night.
I don't know.
But yeah, it's an opening weekend movie.
You don't want to get anything spoiled.
It feels like a moment and all that kind of stuff.
But going into this, I was like excited
because I really liked the first one.
I didn't see the first one in the theater.
When did the first one even come out?
Was it like-
2018?
Yeah, 2018.
End of 2018, like December, January-ish, I i think i'm in new dad funk at that point aj
was born in 2018 so this makes perfect sense why it wasn't even on my radar uh i was excited i'm
like oh this will probably be a good movie theater experience because i've only seen it on the screen
and i think i told you a bunch of times i had like a copy that i think like half the movie was
unfinished it was just like storyboards it was like like, yeah, it was like storyboards.
I'm like, oh, they really went crazy
because it's that kind of movie
where they really test the limits of creativity
and stuff like that.
So this one, I was kind of like, all right,
this is going to be good.
And I mean, it blew me away.
It absolutely.
And then when you're hearing five stars,
best superhero movie ever,
one of the best superhero movies, this and that,
I'm like, all right, this is way too much.
I'm going in with, you know, tempered expectations.
You guys are blowing it through the roof.
And, I mean, it fucking hit him.
It hit every single one.
I didn't think it was.
Did you think it was as good as the first?
I didn't think it was quite the level of the first.
But, like I said last week, the first is, like, a perfect movie for me.
And such an easy watch.
Like, not a scene is wasted. This one is a little longer. I think it's like two hours, 20 minutes.
It's a little more convoluted, not very convoluted, still a very basic story to follow and everything,
but you lose just a little bit of the heart, I think just a little bit. And there's still
tons of heart in this movie. Don't get me wrong. And it's so close to that first movie. If the
first movie is 10 out of 10, this is like a 9.5 out of 10 it's very very very close to the first and a very worthy sequel
but i do i would still rank into the spider-verse then across the spider-verse yeah so i i think
i'm with you there i did feel a little too long um and again i was again like 15 minutes which is a
healthy chunk and i understand you have all these different parts you have to tie together i do think this one has i guess would you say more action than
the first one because it just feels like the action scenes are just pouring in yeah i think so
but my favorite parts of the first one were all the little jokes and the nods and you can't really
just do that every single time right you have to maybe pair it back because they had it in the
second one too just not the same amount uh it's kind of like guardians right where guardians they have the jokes and
then it's like certain movies have more or less than others and it's the same kind of thing where
you're feeling it has great comic material has great action sequences but it just has a great
amount of heart and it does vary per film so i think if i had a i have to re-watch this one
definitely which i'm going to take yeah kids to on probably Saturday or Sunday,
which, I mean, we're already in the spoilers part.
Take your kids.
I mean, if you've already watched it, you know.
Maybe the most kid-friendly superhero movie,
which is pretty fucking awesome, right?
I have to see them both again,
but I'm leaning with you.
Right now, I'd say one, then two,
in that order so far.
And by the way, I had no fucking idea there was a three.
So this To Be Continued, I said, these motherfuckers.
I got so mad for like a minute.
And then I said, listen, man, I grew up with Back to the Future.
They hit you with To Be Continued and you're just like, oh, man, I got to come back.
And that was like without the next one's coming out next year.
Right. So it's ready to it's going to be ready to go.
Oh, I don't know if it is.
I'm not sure.
I thought I read 2024 was the next one.
So I was like, oh, OK, as long as we have a follow up, that's pretty much ready.
I'm cool with it.
I was mad.
But then again, like you go to the end.
I think about the people that watched Empire and they're like, oh, I got to go to Jedi.
Now I have to wait three fucking years.
That's tough. And that is a much more bigger movie in your life than the spider-verse movies are so i was taken aback i was a little uh i was a little upset and i said
you know what like i kind of like that they're bringing back the to be continued it's kind of
like my little bonus track thing with uh cds i like that we kind of have that back in our life
so i thought i read um i know that there's a live action, which our boy Matty Fitz blogged about.
There's a live action.
Miles Morales coming out soon, right?
So that's in the works.
Google says Beyond the Spider-Verse, the next one,
will be March 29th, 2024.
If that's true, that would be amazing.
I hope that doesn't get delayed or anything.
Maybe they made them alongside each other
because until last year,
it was Across the spider verse part one and
across the spider verse part two and then they changed the name to just be across the spider
verse beyond the spider verse which i actually like a little better but based on the fact that
it was part one part two i was assuming we were going to get a cliffhanger and you made the empire
comparison it is kind of like empire like our hero is in a very tough spot and it's like, Oh God, how is he going to get out of this?
And as soon as you think that to be continued hits and we got like a
reaction in the theater of like,
what?
No.
Like people were like,
are you kidding me?
And you're two hours,
20 minutes into the movie there.
People wanted to sit longer and watch that story continue.
What a great sign that is.
That's that's perfect.
I mean,
if you're the one of the
person who created it and you should probably i would imagine a lot of them probably sit in
theater to get those kind of reactions and that's that's definitely a good thing instead of being
like oh thank god like my ass is starting to hurt get me the hell out of this place that was the
other thing with my theater and i don't know if it was with yours other than those numbskull kids
those goddamn kids bob uh the every little easter egg a lot of the little jokes the little nods laughs you know
pauses and then you know there was some claps at the end of it i'm not a huge clap at the movie
guys unless it's an absolute just home run but we had a bunch of claps at the end and it felt
warranted you know what i mean but that to be continued in my theater there wasn't much there
might have been a reaction i was just like what the fuck is going on right now like you gotta finish this up but at the same point man it just means beyond the spider verse
has a whole lot of shit to unpack just from what's there you know they're gonna set up other stuff
along it and i have a i have a theory here i have a theory okay and i this is probably completely
wrong i feel like part of the reason they're gonna do it between now and then and this is
probably a bad way to build up for a movie that has nothing is
just an,
is a movie in this.
I feel like something else will be revealed between now and then that's not
in the multiverse,
you know,
whether it's maybe something in marble side,
Hey,
maybe Wednesday,
though Deadpool's not going to be out by then.
I'm just trying to think of,
there's a lot of multi thing.
Yeah.
There's a lot of multiverse madness going on.
I feel like that might sprinkle. And even if it's going from the MCU and Disney all the way to the Sony side of things,
I feel like that might be a part of it as well.
But yeah, again, we're very much pro don't always kill off the villain.
Spin him out like Darth Vader so that he can come back at some point.
And even though this is kind of individual that because it's kind of its own little contained thing,
at least as of now, which with that live action it might really sprout
out some more um i kind of like how it's not like oh villain dead let's move on to the next one now
it's like no there's some other shit and they've evolved him like he looks scarier now like this
spot kind of look goofy when he starts and by the end of the movie when he's scribble drawn and the
colors are inverted and the way they draw everything around him i was like oh shit he's scribble drawn and the colors are inverted and the way they draw everything around him i was
like oh shit he's gonna be a little scary in the next movie i think yeah and a great a very do i
say i can't say great villain a very good villain with potential for greatness because i don't know
if he's is he a spider villain that you know of no they created him for this movie so i think the
way i said it is it's a great use of him.
Because I agree with you.
You can't be like, he's such a great villain.
But the way they used him in this movie to show the flashbacks of the first movie,
the scribble flashbacks, the black and white stuff was so cool.
I don't know who did the voice.
Who was the voice of this spot?
Because he sounded super familiar.
He sounded super familiar, right?
Let me see. Was it Jason Schwartzartzman that's who i was thinking i don't i never know his name let's
see spot doing this live on the am i on the wrong thing i'm on the wrong thing here no
across the spider verse why do i not see uh spot listed what What's his name? Just the spot. It should be.
Jonathan Schwartzman.
Yep.
You called it, dude.
You fucking called it.
Jason, Jason Schwartzman.
Yep.
Jason from Rushmore.
Yeah.
The Wes Anderson boy.
The Wes Anderson boy.
The Wes Anderson boy.
He's the young boy in Rushmore, right?
Let's get into the plot of the movie, I guess.
Oh, and the one more thing about the rowdy teens.
They were too cool for school for the movie
until they saw the fucking PS4 Spider-Man,
and they were all,
oh, that's the one from the movie.
That's the one from the video game.
Oh, my God.
They're losing their minds.
It's like, yeah, that's right.
You're not too cool for Spider-Man.
Nobody's too cool for Spider-Man.
I didn't know why people were freaking out
at the one part with the little green guy who looks like an x and then my guy heavy spoilers
pointed out that's the atari green goblin and i'm like holy that crazy really went deep into the
and that is when that's something that went right over my head and i i'm sure i could watch videos
picking apart every single spider-man that's in it and every single reference there's probably
just so much fun shit did you see um the old cartoon spider-man was he in there i saw the old cartoon one he was in there he had a quick moment
my favorite random spider-man was peter parked car instead of peter parker oh and i love uh
peter peter ham the pig one what's his name oh uh peter porker peter porker i love that
he was he was a spider who got
bitten by a radioactive pig yes yeah exactly we we don't have um there's no spider pig right from
the simpsons he doesn't make it because he's definitely not a spider man right i don't think
he makes it but he'd be fun to be thrown in yeah yeah yeah i mean i'm sure we could work things out
things are going pretty well between disney and uh sony like just don't they own the simpsons yeah disney owns the simpsons right yeah why not i feel like if you break it down he might be like
a little pixel in the background of one of those spider verse hq scenes you know for decades there's
going to be videos made breaking that down i feel like if you went frame by frame you wouldn't be
able to see everything even on the first go around exactly and i have to say this too you know this
movie was good if i feel this way about it and i didn't have time for popcorn and i still loved it
oh i didn't i didn't have time for popcorn either we went to we did food court we did like the mall
food court and then went right to the movies so i got icy but that was it i had it costco got my
hot dog on the way out and i used i i have one rule in life you can't just go in empty stomach
and eat popcorn because then you get popcorn belly.
And it's not a good thing, Bob.
Popcorn belly is a fucking problem.
Then your mouth is all like cottony by the end of the day.
It's just bad stuff.
So let's recap this movie.
Let's recap it.
We open with Gwen Stacy this time and we get more of her story that was kind of teased and told in the first movie of like peter parker was her
best friend in her universe peter parker takes some serum he becomes the lizard she accidentally
in a fight you know he dies it looks like she killed him her dad is kind of after her the whole
time and then we see the vulture but not a vulture from her universe attacks the guggenheim and
immediately the look of this vulture drawn like he was on, what did she call it?
Parchment.
She was like, you look like you're on parchment paper or something.
I was like, oh, we're in for a good one.
I just knew right away, like, this is the way to kick this movie off.
And you introduce the Spider Society.
So you've got Spider-Man 2099, Miguel O'Hara and Jessica Drew, his wife, who is pregnant with a baby.
And something's up with Miguel O'Hara right away.
I think you could tell when he grabs the vulture and the police copter like shines a light and he's like he has the vampire claws out.
He's about to like eat the guy's head.
You're like, that doesn't look like something a good guy would do.
That's a little strange, isn't it?
Friendly neighborhood Spider-Men don't do that right yeah and the way he was drawn even in the post-credit scene of the
first one dark shadows on his face always in a dark area you're like this guy seems like he's
got dark thoughts dark past everything about the guy is a little shady right now but he gives shady dark
he gives gwen stacy one of their watches quote-unquote watches that just make them go
uh interdimensional without glitching like we saw in the first movie when they glitch and go to
different universes so we catch back up with miles recap the first movie a little bit so if you don't
remember the first movie they will give you a little recapper on uncle aaron prowler all of that stuff it's been about 16 15 months since the first movie
and we meet this spot pretty quickly they get into a fight in a convenience store
and it was over an atm thing the way the fight was handled the bread going through his stomach
and everything very creative reminded me of like the portal games where you have to hit a portal there and then punch through the portal to punch the spot
and he ties him up in a web to get to a school meeting but then the spot breaks out and he brings
miles to the collider we go back to the first movie i liked how important the first movie felt
there too when they're talking about the collider incident as if that was the spark for this whole franchise yeah and they're talking about the spider from
the other dimension which obviously comes back later and the fact that it glitched in the first
one so this is a long time running right this is a long time coming this isn't just we're fixing
we have become so broken brain because of like star wars is fixing things you know from shows
in the past if you
just have a good plan you can do stuff like this sprinkle it in in the first movie in the second
third movie everything pays off it's kind of nice when there's just like crude smart creative people
in control of projects right like this is the really good crazy and i i mean we'll talk about
succession later i thought the same thing for succession i think i read a tommy smokes tweet
where he said like i would love to know when they came up with the ending.
Same thing for Spider-Verse.
When did they have this whole storyline?
Did they finish into the Spider-Verse and then say, let's take it from here?
Did they know that was going to be such a hit that they just wrote out like a trilogy?
I would love to know the answers to all of those questions.
Is there a whiteboard?
Is there a whiteboard?
Is it a chalkboard?
Is it just a file, like a really big file on a whiteboard is it a chalkboard is it just a file like a really big file on a computer is it a red board for spider-man do you
you know a different color you change it up a little bit make it fun that's and that fight
with spot and again i this is just kind of coming off the top of the ring i think that was like my
favorite part of the movie because it was fun action and it was funny and just the dialogue
between them and you know the villain of the week and he kind of takes exception to it and they're going back and forth
and he's like not and again like these gray area villains where he's not a bad guy but he's even
saying like he's like i'm just doing this because i can't make money any other way or live any other
way because my fucking body is just you know white and spots at this point so i like that and i like
their whole dynamic even with like the bodega guy he's you know warming up spots at this point so i like that and i like their whole dynamic even
with like the bodega guy he's you know warming up the beef patty or whatever i don't know maybe it's
like the new yorker me but it's like oh like this is i could see this happening in a crazy new york
universe as someone that's been in a bodega a million times that was there a bodega cat running
around i didn't see that but that's oh there probably was yeah i wonder if that was like the
multiverse version of the bodega guy from queens and the MCU or something, you know, that guy's great. He flattens out the sandwich for Spider-Man makes him super flat and everything. created the spot the spot was a scientist that worked on the collider and he was like basically
like trapped and the collider experiment whatever made him the spot it took away his face took away
his family took away his job and miles also hit him with a bagel on his way out so the guy who
got the little bagel thing in into the spider verse is this spot another great callback another
great reference
and i loved the scene where he's sitting with his parents across from the teacher and she's like we
want you to go to princeton or whatever and they go new jersey got a huge laugh in a new jersey
movie theater of course and and that scene him getting a a a spanish b plus and his mom is ready
to kill him so funny the the parental dynamic he has is so good, you know,
especially with his parents.
His parents are great, yeah.
His parents are great.
Okay, I have to say it.
I don't want to say it, but I'm going to say it
because it would not be an honest podcast.
How do I say it is the question.
I'm horny for Mrs. Morales.
All right, it's just what it is. I'm in love with her. I'm not horny for her. I love Mrs. Morales. All right? It's just what it is.
I'm in love with her.
I'm not horny for her.
I love Mrs. Morales.
She's on screen.
I just fawn over myself.
I know she's a goddamn cartoon, but cartoons like Jessica Rabbit's hot.
Fucking –
Yeah.
I'm not calling –
The bracket just did the hottest cartoon characters.
Oh, yeah.
There we go.
They had a list of 16 of them.
She should make the list.
She's like she's
hot she's beautiful she's fucking wonderful whatever good adjective you could attach to a
human being she is she touches them all she's the goddamn best and i just i swoon when i see her on
screen bob i'm in my seat swooning i'm too big to swoon and i'm swooning you're ready to let the
canon event happen so you could swoop in there yeah i'm gonna be a real shame if mr morales were to fucking fall off that building a real
shame indeed how we doing mr morales you're like spot spot he's over here he's over here
oh that would be great if like there's just some big fucking like i'd be like cream cheese man
just some big overweight vlogger like get up and i'm just trying to move it on his girl oh we need someone to draw you as cream cheese man that's like the there in
batman there's condiment king and he just shoots ketchup and mustard to people like you could
absolutely be cream cheese man cream cheese clem someone needs to draw that let's get some uh bonk
comments in the chat for clem as well after that let's get some bonks people love uh bonking let's
get it in the comments there i'm telling you every time it's on screen like it doesn't stop i'm just like i love her
she's so goddamn beautiful she's so goddamn awesome and someone made a point too i saw the
other one later on the other miles he has more of a spanish flair to him and it's because he does
raise him and i like that side of you're right i didn't even think about that he when he says
like morales yeah yeah i like that someone called the miles no more out of this dude
i love all the nerds just pumping over the brains are moving on overdrive right now
i love this is the perfect movie for the nerds to go wild with it's literally like an open
sandbox for the nerds oh yeah their imagination run wild gwen Miles, but it's kind of an incognito
mission on behalf of the Spider Society
to check out Spot. He's not
fully familiar with that yet. She meets
his parents. That was a very funny scene when he's
getting the cakes made, and he has both cakes
come, and then the only thing it says
at the end is, I am not proud.
It's like, oh god, that's
classic Spider-Man hijinks.
And the meeting with the parents being so awkward with Gwen, and her having to leave right away. I was like oh god that's classic spider-man hijinks and the meeting with the parents being
so awkward with gwen and her having to leave right away i was like yep that's what it feels
like trying to introduce a girl to your parents when you're a teenager incredibly awkward every
single time i should have turned to the teens next to me and been like hey you know what that's like
hey hey guys fucking nerds they don't know what those guys don't have a girl at their house, Robbie.
That's why they're at the movies with themselves acting like fucking dickheads on a Thursday.
They don't know what that is.
Us guys.
We had girls at our house every fucking night of the week.
Yeah, us.
We couldn't keep them out of the basement.
So Gwen is secretly watching Spot and Miles goes invisible and secretly watches gwen secretly watching spot
it's the whole you know did that hurt that hurt me as a miles guy i'm like damn yeah just here
for business same for pleasure it broke my heart that hurt a lot and even later on with the uh
peter b parker scene where miles thinks that he ratted him out and peter b parker definitely
didn't that i was just like oh your Miles is losing trust in everyone right now.
It's tough, and that's what you got to do to a character
in this cliffhanger second movie, I guess.
But he follows her through a portal to Mumbaton,
where we meet Spider-Man India and Spider-Punk.
Now, if you know me, you know I was looking forward to Spider-Punk a ton.
A British rock star Spider-Man.
This guy was up my alley immediately. I think his name is Hubie Brown. If you know me, you know I was looking forward to Spider-Punk a ton. A British rock star Spider-Man.
This guy was up my alley immediately.
I think his name is Hubie Brown.
I played as him in the Spider-Man video game just because he has a mohawk.
He wears like a denim vest.
He was very much like a Robbie Fox Spider-Man to me.
So going into this movie, I was like, one, please let him have like a real role. I don't want him to have like a two-second pop in and you see him.
And two, let him live up to that expectation that I have for him.
Oh my God.
Spider punk lived up to every expectation I had and more.
He was the coolest motherfucker in this movie.
Daniel Kaluuya does his voice that helps him be cool because Daniel Kaluuya is one of the
coolest actors in the game right now, but he is my guy.
I'm declaring it right now on my mom's basement, June 2nd, as we record this.
Spider-Punk is my guy.
And you know, he's coming in like Han Solo in the next movie.
I thought he was going to do it in this movie when he's like, I'm getting out of here.
You know, I don't, you know, go with the establishment goes into his portal.
I was like, that sounds a lot like Han Solo being like, enjoy the Death Star run, kid.
I'm definitely not even going to think about it.
And he even dropped off a little gift later.
So that's a great point.
By the way, Hobart, not Hubie, Hobart or Hobie, because Hubie Brown is a very old NBA announcer.
He used to be a coach.
And I swear to God, I cannot have those two overlapping in my brain.
I was like, if they named this guy Hubie in the comics, I'm fucking out because this guy,
I like punk culture and all that kind of stuff.
Not usually my cup of tea,
but I really have no like problem with it.
I have to say in this movie, he grew on me big time.
When he first came on, I'm like,
this guy's going to be in my face the whole time.
I'm just going to have a problem with it.
And by the end, I'm like, I fucking love this guy.
I have to, so I have to choose a guy i have to so i have to choose a guy now basically
i have to yeah you gotta have a guy i'm gonna watch the next move i'm gonna watch it again
this weekend and i'll come back with my personal spider-man obviously yours is punk uh i feel like
peter b lends himself to you as a father now he's my yeah that's my guy it is peter as i was saying
that um especially when his little baby came down with the web and pointed. I was like, I fucking love this duo right here.
And Mary Jane is just cool as fuck.
She's like, did you take my baby to another battle
right there?
Don't tell mom.
He's wearing the big bathroom.
So Peter B, and we got
Spider Punk.
I need the action figures.
I need a Spider Punk t-shirt. I'm ready to go
all in on him. And when he takes the mask off too, I love Miles' line where he's like, how are you cooler under the mask?
Yeah, I have to say, I was like, oh, fuck, they really nailed this guy from top to bottom.
Like he just he just absolutely crushed it. I was thinking, can we do our Avengers barstool t-shirt with all the Avengers?
Except it's all just a different Spider-Man. But I'm like, I think everyone, would they look the same?
Or I'm like, how do we, how does that even work?
We're like, Nathan Hurst, simplify this.
So they all look different, but they're all Spider-Man.
You can be like, are you guys fucking kidding me?
These guys are so fucking stupid.
Why do I keep listening to them?
By the way, I got Nathan Hurst fully into wrestling.
This guy went from a non-wrestling fan to watching every week,
watching every AEW pay-per-view i see him tweeting along nothing makes me happier than getting someone into
something i love like wrestling or comics or uh you know a certain band or something seeing them
start to love it and like go all in i was like every time i see him tweeting about a pay-per-view
it makes me feel a little warm inside i'm like i did that shit we did that with a boy sam
lauderdale too remember there was a show he was like i'm not really and then he's like fucking got him into
it yeah last of us it was i think yeah last of us yep yeah hey it's like watch this show and have
your heart ripped out every single week that's a great time literally so they they go to spider-man
india's home mumbat and spider-man india by the way very cool he's got cool hair coming out of the mask
and everything and he's like a little too perfect for miles he's like you don't do anything to that
hair he's like nothing but a little coconut oil or whatever doesn't even work out this fucking guy
doesn't work out he's like oh yeah i don't want to get too buff you know cracked me up his world
design being so bright and colorful awesome place for this big fight scene to happen and this is
where miles disrupts a canon event.
So we learn a little later that every Spider-Man has, like,
the Detective Stacy that passes away and becomes, you know,
Spider-Man becomes a better Spider-Man because of that,
having watched one of their idols, heroes, friends, family die in a battle
with one of their enemies.
In this universe, it's Detective Sing who is supposed to die in a battle with one of their enemies in this universe it's detective sing who
is supposed to die in this battle and miles saves him so this disrupts a whole entire canon event in
the universe spots start opening up all over the place the spider society has to come in and
basically clean up the mess they're like the pest control people in uh breaking bad or whatever
it's like when John Wick. Yes.
It's when John Wick kills everyone in the house and he calls up that guy and he's like, come on, clean this up.
So they come in.
Miguel O'Hara's pissed right away.
Like you could tell this guy isn't your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man at all.
He's very much has a mission to do, has a job to do.
He's upset at all these kids. He's like, we need to see you in the uh spider verse hq
essentially to assess the damage he doesn't call it the spider verse though he actually says that
dumb later on it's like the arachnoid humanoid uh multiverse connection or whatever he's like i
guess that sounds so they go to the spider society hq We get a bunch of Spider-Men, Spider-Women, cars.
Like I said, Peter parked a car.
I loved the one where Spider-Man is like, Miles is like, oh, I'm Spider-Man.
She's like, oh, really?
No way.
So are all of us.
That was great.
The T-Rex.
I love the T-Rex being there as well.
The T-Rex was a great one.
Spider-Horse?
What was it?
Oh, Web Slinger. Web Slinger, yeah. That was really cool. Why forget her horse or what was it was oh uh web slinger web
slinger yeah that was really cool why is the horse wearing a mask to conceal its identity
i was like yep that that's amazing that's perfect like spider verse level humor humor it was the
spider verse i grew up with from the early 2000s i saw shots from both toby and andrew garfield
movies we saw not them but like them on screens and there was like a hologram of andrew garfield movies we saw not them but like them on screens and there was like
a hologram of andrew garfield theater went wild for both of those like people point to the screen
oh my god do you see that do you see that i saw like the comic cover very famous comic cover
the wedding of spider-man and mary jane that was flashed on screen at one point but in my opinion
and i think most people's opinion the highlight of the cameos
in the spider society hq was donald glover live action as prowler he's in a spider prison there's
kind of all villains and i was expecting like a fun villain cameo when they start going down the
list and it's just like a spider verse rhino aino, a Spider-Verse Electro. I'm like, oh, we're going to see one we know, don't we?
Never in a million years would I have thought,
oh, Donald Glover is going to reprise his role from Spider-Man Homecoming,
where he says like, oh, I got to get to my nephew or whatever.
And everyone has said since that movie came out,
oh, maybe he's the Prowler, right?
And it's kind of just like more of a fun headcanon thing than anything,
because I never expected them to really follow up on that.
But to have him just sitting there cool as a cucumber, like with the nails and everything.
And he's like, it's rude to stare.
Oh, my God, that was awesome.
Biggest reaction of my theater, I'd say by far was that one.
And I didn't realize the whole backstory with again, like I have Heavy Spoiler was saying, he has the Spider-Man outfit on in Community, and it kind of got the Miles Morales ball rolling.
Totally.
He was like the inspiration of Miles Morales in a weird way.
Yeah, and now he can't really do it because Miles Morales is like a teenager or whatever, you know, college student.
So, just fucking awesome, man.
That was, there was a lot of moments in this movie and it's a fucking
cartoon man and the animation by the way
you said it before what did you say three years to make this
five I think
five years jeez did you see the
thing I tweeted out yesterday
I quote retweeted it actually
it was
the Oppenheimer thing
yeah it's
11 miles long and 600 pounds.
That's the IMAX film prints for it.
And it's like,
I need every stat about the man hours
that it took to just make this movie,
the amount of animators,
the amount of food they ate during all this,
the amount of coffee they drank.
Like, just give me a fucking,
a lot of stats for your stats
on everything about this movie.
Because it's fucking,
it's incredible.
Just all the different,
it looked awesome.
And then like, that's the thing. If it looks awesome, it's great. If there's action because it's fucking it's incredible just all the different it looked awesome and then like that's the thing you if it looks awesome it's great if there's action it's
great but it's like the fun little nods with the comedy that's when you just have a five star out
of five star and we're just nerding out we're having nerdgasms about it this is nerdgasm podcast
we're having a great time talking about this movie we meet spider-man 2099 he very slowly stinks from
the ceiling and in that scene i was like
this is going so slow how long is this going to be and then they make a joke about it of course
they're like i know that's his thing just let him do it and from the second he's flashed on screen
in this moment forward he feels like a villain he feels like a straight up villain the the way
he looks dead on the inside his eyes he's like shooting himself with the spider venom.
It's like I'm a little different than all these Spider-Men.
We get a little bit of his backstory teased here.
Just enough where it's like, okay, he lost his family in the past and he's doing this all for them or whatever. the next movie my prediction beyond the spider-verse will open with an expanded miguel
o'hara backstory in the same way that this opened with an expanded gwen stacy backstory
i think that would be a cool way to go miles gwen miguel in your entire trilogy i think
i think that's a good call so i remember when spider-man 2099 and all the 2999 comics came out i read some of
them and it was futuristic i'm not a big futuristic futuristic and space were two things i never got
into in this comic side of things um so i don't remember how much of this mirrors that i like your
call i'm also gonna say this this could be completely wrong like jose might puke his guts
out if you've even heard this theory i'm about to come up with maybe like,
he's supposed to be like the lizard or the doc of his universe,
but somehow the spider got crossed and that's the spider venom is he wants
to be Spider-Man.
I don't know how he,
I don't even know the story.
I'm sure everyone listening to the podcast knows more than us when it comes
to this,
but I like your spider verse theory of
like spider-man 2099 especially when we're talking about the you weren't supposed to be spider-man
your spider-man doesn't even have your universe doesn't have a spider-man all of that talk i can
see them changing some shit up here it's like the politicians that want to change all the laws for
people that are different and then you find out they're doing stuff behind the scenes that is just
like all the people they're trying to abolish right so i i could see that kind of thing happening
here with uh what's his name miguel miguel o'hara yeah and shout out oscar isaac on the voice it's
the voice combined with the animation but by the end of the movie when he's screaming at miles
i was like afraid of him i was like oh shit he's like a pretty scary animated villain at this point
do you agree oh yeah no it was it was it was scary man and that's this movie made me think
I think they can they can do animated movies for a lot of their big projects and it's not going to
hit the same as live action but it's going to make a shitload of money and you just have so
much more they couldn't do one-tenth of the shit they did in terms of action in a real movie right it just wouldn't have worked
it would have looked just clumsy or whatever and it looks so beautiful these things were made to
be fucking drawings that's what comics are so i thought it was awesome and i again between this
movie and then the x-men cartoon that i love, X-Men 97, that's about to come back out.
Like, why can't, like, if there is superhero fatigue or whatever, why can't we just remix it a little and say, all right, let's throw a couple more animated projects out there.
Money's not going to be an issue.
You're going to make it all back and then some.
So keep it fucking rolling.
So, yeah, the fact that he turned into this guy as an animated character is kind of amazing.
Awesome.
And he's Moon Knight.
He's Apocalypse from x-men this
guy he's not afraid to dive into the comic zones every now and then and i like that about him too
some people are very like i don't want to be associated with that i just want to do my ex
machinas it's like he'll go do his fun ex machina indie projects or a24 projects whatever but then
he'll come back and make a bag daddy gotta got to eat. Yeah, exactly. He has to get money, man.
So he explains canon events to Miles in this moment.
And then Peter B. Parker shows up with Mayday, his daughter.
She's got the Spider-Man beanie on, the little hat.
I love that as well.
And they explain that for Spider-Men and Spider-Women,
familial deaths are part of the gig, essentially. whether it's uncle ben whether it's captain stacy whether it's aunt may for tom holland you kind of have to go
through this and this was explained to tom holland in uh no way home and he kind of like has to deal
with it because it's explained to him after aunt may dies miles on the other hand gets it told
to him before his father dies and he realizes he puts together okay in my universe the canon event
is the spot killing my father the police captain he's just getting promoted to police captain
so he wants to change it and i saw a great tweet where it's like everyone tells tom holland this
as spider-man and he's like he cries he's like oh man and then they tell
miles morales this and he's like what the fuck no i'm changing that you're not killing my dad
crazy so he goes to try to save his father from by the way i so i i had it pissed for like a half
hour and i was like all right i think i got it now and i left and i missed the whole your dad's
gonna die reveal so i kind of missed that i figured it
out post like during while i'm watching it and they had mentioned i'm like okay so i don't know
like probably like two minutes because i ran my fat ass out of there and ran it back as fast as
did you see that the taylor swift fans are pissing in diapers did you see those i saw that that's
crazy so that's crazy if i like again two hours and 20 minutes you guys made it a little too long
for me i was looking at the clock i'm like i had to be like 30 minutes in i held it the whole time
and i pissed like the fucking spider-man racehorse when i got to that theater
so i don't think i missed too much so this part i'm kind of vague on so they don't actually like
they just say your dad is going to die is that that what they say? They imply it very heavily, and then they show deaths also.
Did you see the Andrew Garfield part?
With Gwen?
They show Andrew Garfield standing over Captain Stacy in his universe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so they show that, and Miles puts it together in his head.
His father just got promoted to captain.
When he puts it together, he kind of says like so my dad's gonna die and all the spider-men
look at him and they're like yeah come on that's part of the gig he's like no what are you talking
about yep and and because i'm like i'm like oh no we're good we have the uncle that's his fucking
tragic yeah but that's the villain side of things that is i'm like can't we just get by
on like a technicality right i know he had his uncle ben yeah but it's like with andrew garfield
he had his uncle ben and then he had his captain stacy moment too i think i'm saying this which i
haven't seen that movie in forever i could be wrong on that i'm saying this right now i don't
care if we have a podcast that we recover all these movies for, and I don't care that it's just a bunch of digital paint.
If they kill Mrs.
Morales in the fucking next movie,
I'm not reviewing it.
You're out.
I'm never watching the fucking series again.
Basically.
Out on Lord and Miller in general,
anything they make in the future out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anything.
If it has the little graphic at the beginning,
I'm like,
Oh,
I'll leave the movie theater.
I'm like,
I didn't know they were doing this.
It would be,
they are, they're canceled in my mind. I will cancel, I didn't know they were doing this. It would be, they are,
they're canceled in my mind.
I will cancel the fuck out of them.
If they kill Mrs.
Morales,
even if there's a billion other Mrs.
Morales is in a billion different universe.
That's my girl.
That's my animated girlfriend.
That's not a weird thing to say.
Not at all.
Not in the slightest.
We'll get you one of those life-size pillows ever too.
That's not weird either.
So miles flees.
And I loved that that there was a spider
man that went like there's nowhere to run and then he runs and he's like oh i'm sorry i guess
there was somewhere to run he goes gets on this massive train where all the spider men are coming
after him and the whole movie he's kind of learning to use that big shock putting like the full palm
on the denim thing yeah he's able to use it here and not
before he's told as we mentioned his spider that bit him was from a different dimension so it was
earth uh 42 i believe so shout out jackie robinson shout out mariana rivera he he gets bitten by that spider. He his universe now doesn't have a Spider-Man because
of that. So his existence is kind of a broken canon event. He's like, you are the original
anomaly. So this is at this point, just a straight up Miguel O'Hara versus Miles Morales story.
And he's able to escape. He goes back to that machine where we haven't even mentioned it,
but it was like the go home machine.
And I forget the name of the girl that ran it,
but I liked her too. And I'd like to her to be more in the next movie that ran it through like
an Oculus rift.
She's like a virtual reality avatar spider man.
I was like,
that's fucking great.
Um,
and he gets in there and is able to go quote unquote home.
But now we got to think what universe did he get sent to?
He was sent to universe 42
we don't know that right away right up front but when he goes home the whole movie he's thinking
should i tell my mom should i tell my parents that i'm spider-man he's like fuck it now's the time
he reveals it to his mom and she's like i don't know who you're talking about are you crazy are
you high spider-man what is that he's like the superhero she's like that's very cute you go to comic-con are you going to comic-con dressing up as your favorite character
he's like i don't know what comic-con is then uncle aaron walks in and you're like oh fuck and
at the same time they almost did the silence of the lambs thing you're at the wrong house
where gwen stacy looks like she's about to go into his window and then she goes into an empty room
it's like what's going on here uncle aaron's here so you know we're in the wrong universe he brings him up to the roof and he's acting kind of sus with him
and he's he's being shady he's being very short with him miles gets attacked tied up to a heavy
bag just like peter b parker was in the first movie we find out that in this universe uncle
aaron is not the prowler the prowler is miles morales
see the little thing on morales there takes the mask off he's got like braids and everything
and uncle aaron was just on to this other universe's miles right away he knew it wasn't his
miles gwen on her side realizing that miles is in the wrong universe, talks to Miles' parents very briefly,
and then assembles a team to go rescue him,
the team including a lot of the characters from the first movie.
So you got the Spider-Man noir, Nicolas Cage.
You got Peter Porker.
You got the Spider-Man that Gerard Way created
that's just like an anime girl in a big spider suit.
She came back, and the characters from the first movie in this scene in a big spider suit she came back and the characters from
the first movie in this scene got a big reaction in the theater too which i was like what what an
indictment on the first movie already becoming kind of a instant classic is that an indictment
is that indictment is that the right word indictment fucking a i can't it's indictment
my english is bad this this week I don't know what happened.
I love you, Bob.
I've been making games.
Who is it?
Qui-Gon.
You say Qui-Gon like there's- Qui-Gon, yeah.
I can't say the emperor's name.
It's just part of the podcast.
Yeah, that's part of the pod.
Listen, we're not the smartest in the world.
We never claim to be.
Another Spider-Man that, before we, I mean, we're pretty much done with the movie recap.
Forgot to mention ben reilly scarlet
spider is in this as a villain he's part of not a villain but he's part of miguel o'hara's spider
society and the way he's drawn and handled andy sandberg does his voice is so great i think a lot
of people don't like this spider-man they call him like a little emo whiny bitch so the fact that
he's like oh i'm thinking about my past
i can't stop sulking about it like that deep almost batman level voice i thought that was
really funny i think he's gonna have a lot more to do in the next movie as well yeah uh so the
that was a great twist and you know i i want to say i i want to say i had to figure it out pretty
quickly i don't think i did though as i'm like just piecing it back together i was so fucking confused and then i was just like oh fuck
oh fuck and then when glenn goes to the empty room like oh we are in again it's not the worst
thing in the world if mr morales cannot be saved i'm there i'm there you know like uh that was
tough when he looked up and he saw the painting too the rest in power but it was
his dad instead of his uncle that was like uh oh that was mr crabs your world is closing in on
itself oh my god miles room i didn't pick up on it right away i was very confused about what was
happening but i could tell his room was different in the other universe and there was purple all
over it clem he had a purple record player he had Clem. He had a purple record player. He had a purple poster. He had a purple hoodie on.
And now it's like, oh, that's because they were trying to tease.
He's the fucking Prowler in this world.
But I can't wait to go back and kind of see more things like that throughout the movie.
The things you pick up on the second watch.
By the way, something I picked up on the first watch, J. Jonah Jameson.
The love kid voice being back in it.
That was incredible.
And I heard something about in the 42,
the sinister six cartel,
they said,
and I'm like,
they did.
Yeah.
These guys got a legitimate cartel going on here.
So Spider-Man to stop them.
Yeah.
Yeah,
exactly.
So I'm trying to figure this out.
I guess this is like almost a prediction for the next movie.
Do we think that Miguel has anything to do with either of the Miles,
you know, either 42 or the original Miles Morales?
Does he have anything to do with that?
Or is he kind of from his own thing?
And he's just going to, because it's like, is the message here,
like the message of Spider-Man shouldn't be,
you have to follow this exact predetermined story to, you know, get to become Spider-Man.
Gwen kind of realizes that when her dad, she talks to her dad and he's like, oh, I'm not taking the captain job.
And I think that flips the switch in her mind where she's like, oh, we could break canon.
Yeah, exactly.
We get out of here.
Yeah.
Get off the tracks and go our own way here
yeah i hated her dad at first and i by the end i really liked him like when they had obviously
their moment or whatever the way the colors were bleeding too at the end and it got brighter as
soon as their relationship got better the whole like the animation itself like had to be written
into the script right like it had to be so calculated everything they did animation wise it's it's a
masterpiece of a movie i really think it is the like if i could just talk to the person i wouldn't
even want to talk to the person that like came up with all that little stuff because it would make
me feel so dumb and irrelevant you know what i mean it's like when i watched back in 2018 when
i thought of the ending of that movie in 2023 it's like bro i don't know what i'm
gonna have for lunch tomorrow and you know what you're gonna do five years from now it's crazy
it's like yeah well when is a superhero we paint her one way and when she's a civilian we paint
her another and then they bleed together it's like you fucking six-inch bitch i write like
two paragraphs of my blogs every day and i fucking feel like uh you know a funny guy you said indocument yeah he said indocument on your goddamn pockets you goddamn morons uh indocument eyesore this movie yeah do you know who her dad is i realized
he's mr incredible if he didn't have superpowers doesn't he kind of look like that's good when he
wears like the dress shirt and everything he's like miserable at dinner yeah yep yep and he
still wants to help people but he doesn't have like the superhuman strength and all that while matt miles is basically uh now we know obviously with the glitch he's basically vendelope von
schweetz from uh record right like he should have never happened he's the original glitch and he's
fucking everything up so i'm i'm gonna call it i think miguel is like he's he's so he's so like
he's fucked up his stuff so wrong.
He now wants everyone to fall in line.
And now it's like, oh, you have to have a family member die.
Which then takes me to my next question.
I would never make anyone answer this.
But do you think like any part of Miles at some point was like, which family member could I kill that would be good enough to like appease the comic gods or you know the spider gods but also not enough to like
make me really hurt like it's kind of like you can't got it yeah thanos couldn't throw nebula
off the cliff to get the soul stone right he had to throw them more like is it literally mom or dad
is there any kind of i mean you already lost the uncle so it's like who i i know i'll be honest
with you i'm like looking around there's no one'm like, who would I have to kill? Who gave me the least amount of money for my birthday last year?
But I still like them.
Yeah.
I liked the little mention too.
I don't think I mentioned it yet when they shouted out Dr. Strange and that nerdy kid.
Oh, that was great.
In the beginning.
He's like, oh shit, they're talking about Tom Holland.
I liked that.
She's like, who's Dr. Strange?
Yeah.
He's like, don't worry about it.
Yeah.
Fast food review for this movie.
As always, for our movie reviews, we will compare it to a fast food item.
We don't do the five ball scale.
That's Glennie Ball's thing.
We don't do the five stars.
We don't do the zero through 100.
That's for Lights, Camera, Barstool.
We just assign these movies a fast food item.
You could pretty much interpret that however you'd like do you want me to kick it off or you got one clem yep you kick it you kick it off i'll go and i want everyone in the comments to leave their
fast food review i want to hear what everyone says good bad and different leave it for across
the spider verse in the comments below and thumbs up course. My fast food review is going to be a Five Guys cheeseburger.
And now I say cheeseburger, not bacon cheeseburger.
The bacon cheeseburger would be into the Spider-Verse for me.
That is like a perfect fast food burger.
That is just, you load it up.
But being able to load it up is why I pick Five Guys here.
Because it's kind of a choose your own adventure with Five Guys.
And it's the same way for
across the spider verse i watched this two hour 20 minute movie and my favorite character is a guy
that was in it for probably 10 minutes right yeah five guys same thing i can eat a giant five guys
cheeseburger my favorite thing on it is those little mushrooms that you're able to put on
so i'm going five guys one of the best you could add on a oreo milkshake they get the cookies and
cream milkshake oh so good five guys is right down the uh from our office we're like basically
below the office so you could tell i've had it a lot five guys it was right near where i was to
watch the movie last night and if you had done this yesterday i would have went to five guys
because now i really want five guys by the the way, I hate to admit it.
I have to go with like the – is there like the one patty or two patty, right?
It's like two patties, right?
Yeah, you go one.
I sometimes go one just because –
I do too.
Actually, no.
I'm lying.
I go two because I figure I'm going for the burger.
I have to get the little fries though.
I don't need that full bag of fries.
Well, they also overload it and then yeah the small fries
basically a medium fry anywhere else and me a tiny guy i sometimes have to go single patty and also
this is people gonna take my man card but i really wear my heart on my sleeve i tell the
listeners my mom's basement everything my deepest darkest secrets on this podcast
i've downgraded myself from the baconator to the son of a Baconator. I can't do the Baconator anymore. I fucking hate that you actually have a Baconator rotation and you
look like you do still. This is how I know it's not just me. It's not just me. There's my fucking
body, the chemistry inside, the metabolism, because I haven't had a Baconator in years,
years. And I'm not saying- No, this is my canon event,
just looking like this. It can't change. canon event just looking like this it can't change no matter what i do it doesn't change and like you would have given anything to get the weight
gain i had when you were younger right you wanted to be fighting i was trying to put on weight yeah
i was doing gold mad gallon of milk a day throwing up it was bad and i just wanted to fit in arrow
pastel clothes when i was a kid i couldn't even go in the store i'm like what's the point i can't
buy anything there anyway because it's not gonna fit. So that's a good one.
Again, five guys.
And listen, this is not five guys slander.
Five guys might be my number one burger joint out of all the established burger joints.
But I go the double patty because I figure I'm going for the burger.
You got to get the small fries.
The thing about the fries is, and I love how they put it in the cup and they dump it because
bag fries taste better.
It's just a scientific fact.
But when you see that grease on the bag,
you just feel bad about yourself.
Whether you look like me,
you look like Rob,
no matter what you feel bad about yourself.
We are eating all those fries.
And then like,
there's only so much room in the human stomach,
no matter how big you are.
And that burger plus those fries.
I thought you were going to tell me nuts when you're waiting for your
order.
Yeah,
exactly.
You throw,
you got to throw some peanuts in Bob.
I'm not a mushroom guy, so I won't, but you know, I mushroom people so i'm not gonna when you were like giving me that confession i thought you were gonna say like
you drink water at five guys and i was gonna be like i'm out with that i'm out mark even gift
right you gotta get a soda or a milkshake i like that uh my fast food review is kind of similar to yours in that it plays off the other movie as well
this is and i know you're a fan of this one as well the wendy's pretzel pub chicken sandwich
oh yeah because there's a lot of stuff going on you have your chicken you have the pretzel
bun which pretzel buns are so good i actually just bought some at stew leonard's last night
i saw your picture it made me jealous oh i zoomed in on those pretzel buns are so good. I actually just bought some at Stu Leonard's last night. I saw your picture. It made me jealous. I zoomed in on those pretzel buns.
I was like, oh, pretzel buns.
That's like me, Homer Simpson at donuts.
I see a pretzel bun.
I started drooling.
Let me tell you, Bob, I'm not going to lie.
That could be a burger, but that also just may be a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich this weekend too.
Like the pretzel bun, it can work any time of day.
Just like at Wendy's, it has the chicken.
It has the pretzel bun but it also has
the cheese sauce it has like i think the onion frizzles you know this better than i do it's a
bacon on it too is that right yeah yeah so i consider this one the chicken sandwich i personally
think the burger is better i'm more of a wendy's burger guy that would be the first spider verse
movie this one is the chicken and fuck i hope beyond the spider verse is like some sandwich they haven't come out the spicy pretzel pub oh man do that wendy's i fucking love the wendy's spicy chicken so it has
a ton of different stuff you're not sure how it's all gonna work it should all work you put it
together you have a fucking masterpiece you have a work of art you have some eye candy eye candy
it's not an eyesore it is eye candy and honestly i expect the reviews are already
pretty unanimously positive i expect just more and more of that as people see it now it's mostly
just critics people that saw screeners or whatever the next week the next weekend i expect to see
memes gifs pictures people at the uh you know, one ticket, please, to what? And then they cut to him and they're wearing the full Spider-Man costume.
I think this movie is going to make, I don't want to say a billion dollars.
I don't know if the first one made a billion dollars.
This movie is going to make a lot of fucking money.
So I forgot to mention this too.
At my theater, I got there a little late, like I said, so I couldn't have popcorn, which killed me.
But again, I'm going with the kids.
I don't need to have popcorn twice a weekend.
I'm not the part of life.
I have to start thinking smart about that kind of stuff.
I got in, and the guys were like, choose your seat.
And there was like three open.
And the one that was open, I got lucky.
It was right at the end, and it was a good seat.
It was like halfway up.
I couldn't believe how many people were there.
Because we go to these opening day or opening weekend movies and at least by me and
the burbs you'll kind of have like a half and a half full theater for like a decent movie too
jammed huge reaction and again this isn't a spider-man live action movie this is an animated
movie and i feel like that probably takes a little you make it more kids but you're going to get less
adults i feel that are casual fans and they fucking like there might be a chance of like
do you think there's an earnings out already for the first day there's definitely weekend estimate
i saw the projection was 150 million which would be fucking colossal for the first weekend like i
think that's a massive massive massive first weekend think about what this movie is going to
do after the kings of youtube fucking you know wax poetic and suck the kings of youtube also
spider-man india there's a billion people in india if you got massive numbers you know wax poetic and suck the kings of youtube also spider-man india
there's a billion people in india if you got matching numbers you know there's two billion
people in india maybe you can mess those numbers there was also so i couldn't go to my jersey city
movie theater every uh showing was sold out i had to go to paramus there were probably like
every theater showing there probably 20 showings There were four showings in Paramus yesterday, all in Hindi, no subtitles.
They cracked the code, man.
They cracked the code.
They're going to do multiple languages, multiple cultures and everything.
And you could, I mean, if you release this movie in India, just watch the box office skyrocket.
They make a Chinese Spider-Man.
Like Sony might be able to buy Disney.
Voiced by John Cena.
So, I'm going to, all right, you give me the number.
Rotten Tomatoes critic score and audience score.
We have 189 reviews from the critics and over a thousand verified ratings from the uh audience
here guess what each one is yeah critics i'm gonna go i'm gonna go like 90 from the critics i think
i think it's pretty high okay audience score i'll go even higher i'll go 95 for the audience
critics 95 whoa audience which is the one i think most of us go by at this point because
critics have fucked up so many times 97 for over a thousand reviews too like wow listen all we've
learned all raw tomatoes is is thumbs up or thumbs down it's not like a give it one to a hundred score
but you don't see 97s very often. Right. Almost never.
This thing has that kind of score.
Let me see what the guardians fit settled that for reference,
82 critics,
94 audience. So this hasn't be killing them on the critic side.
It hasn't beat with the audience as well with that's 10,000 plus verified
reviews.
So,
I mean,
with those kinds of numbers and again,
people that aren't nerds
or even diehards are just like,
oh, shit, like there's a Spider-Man.
I'll check it out.
They go to Rotten Tomatoes
and they see those numbers.
Shit.
And if you're Indian,
like...
And you got a badass Spider-Man with cool hair.
You're like, yeah, that's my guy.
If they don't have like...
Maybe we should just launch like
Indian Spider-Man shirts on Barstool
and have them up for a day.
Just launch them in Barstool India, the Barstool India store.
We can make a badass Mumbaton shirt.
Yep.
All colorful and everything.
I wanted to ask you this question too.
In the next movie, because I think there's going to be a lot of battles and stuff like that, but we got a lot of our spider-centric stuff do you think there's a chance that as we go between dimensions
or universes and just maybe maybe it's discussion maybe they make appearances do you think we kind
of get like get to see more of the alternate universes friends and family members like that's
one thing i like is like the different stacy's the different aunt may's the different mary jane's but
even like i'd like to see a couple neds right i'd like to see like shit like that you know so there was one friend miles roommates
i'm not your guy in the chair he's like oh little guy at the net i liked that yeah yeah and he's
like are you wearing my sneakers he's like it's not my fault we're the same size and everything
that was really funny jay's right off him i like that a lot i would like to see more of that because
it also uh humanizes each
one a little more instead of just being a faceless spider-man that is from a different universe like
show us a little bit of their life and by the end when they're sending gwen stacy back to her
universe i was thinking like oh fuck how's she gonna talk to her dad like give us those moments
just to make us feel those those feelings you know yep and for any like diehard spider-man people out
there like spider-man's your number one dude like robbie your guy's batman right yeah but marvel
it's captain american spider-man for sure like before the captain american movies i was a die
hard spider-man like toby movies were my thing i'm an x-men guy i guess wolverine's kind of my guy
but it's more just the x-men in general but But for anyone that Spider-Man is their guy, is this already the best Spider-Man, like –
Universe?
Universe?
Yeah.
If they stick the landing, is this the best Spider-Man trilogy?
Because I think the Holland ones are pretty fucking good.
I was just watching the first one the other day, and I was like, wait, which one's with the Vulture?
Is that two?
First one, Homecoming.
That's the first one, yeah.
That's the best one, I think. And I was like – i was like i was blown away i was like man this is even better
than i remember i only watched like the first half of it there was so much fun stuff with all
the cleanup with the avengers and all that kind of stuff with all the tech they had um and keaton
was i loved keaton in it so i'm interested to see is this trending towards the best spider trilogy
because people are saying maybe best superhero
trilogy of all time and it's so hard to do that like i'm a guardian i know so i'm a dark knight
guy too it's like yeah yeah it's true too so tough for me to put it above that but i do think it's
trending towards best spider-man portrayal universe ever and it's crazy like i never would have thought
as a kid obviously miles didn't exist but who would have thought one day the best Spider-Man is going to be
miles Morales.
And like the Peter Parker from the universe is like a schlub who wears
sweatpants and is kind of like just a dad trying to figure it out.
Hey,
you're talking to a dad trying to figure it out.
Put some fucking respect on us.
All right.
That's that's our Peter Parker.
And we love him as much as any other Peter Parker we've ever met.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
And I do think it will be one of those things that I imagine that's why
almost,
maybe it's almost,
you have to give it to someone who doesn't have a character where it's
like,
you're going to say the spider,
you're going to say Batman,
I'm going to say guardians and people are going to say different things.
Like the Spider-Man are going to say one of the Spider-Man ones,
but it's like the people who don't have anyone.
I wonder if,
and I,
there's a ton of people that love Spider-Man that still have no clue who
Miles Morales is.
Right.
Like they just never got into the movies or the game.
So it's going to be very interesting.
Cause the games do.
Oh my God.
The next game looks so fucking good.
I'm going to get back into the first game before the next game.
Oh boy.
When they have that live action,
that is going to be able to print
money so that's the other thing do you think the third movie ends with him just transitioning to
live action i think that's that's because when this movie ended which again i realized as i was
reading some of the comments i was most certainly not alone and not knowing that there was another
movie coming up apparently there's a lot of audience who's like what the fuck right and i
was like oh is this the live action movie that mad of audience who was like, what the fuck? Right. And I was like, Oh,
is this the live action movie that Maddie fits?
I'm like,
that's a long leap of faith.
And we have to figure out someone that looks like miles Morales.
Uh,
I think that's going to be the,
because now once that movie ends,
I'm sure there's going to be enough of a conclusion.
You'll be happy,
but this is coming and we're going to be able to print money off of it.
And at this point,
like I have actual faith in the people that run this franchise of Spider-Man, just like I have with the other franchise of Spider-Man.
When Marvel's involved, we've seen plenty of instances where that's not the case.
Oh, also, I had no clue the Venom that that girl from the Venom movie.
I had no clue. Everyone was loving that one.
That was the second biggest pop. And I was was like this means nothing to me right now i have no clue nothing to me did you see the
stranger things writers tweeted like we have an idea for live action miles and it was lucas from
stranger things oh i i actually i kind of like that he had the flat top in the last season kind
of like similar hairstyle as miles so i was like i could see that and also he's young enough where if you wanted to
bring him into the mcu like tom holland can kind of be his mentor in the same way tony sark was
you know he could show miles everything tony taught him and that would be a very cool way to
continue that relationship i like that or max could just be his mary jane and we already have
they just but if they just make the final season of Stranger Things like a Spider-Man.
Spider-Man.
It was like this was Spider-Man all along.
This was the Stranger Universe, you know?
All right.
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All right, let's talk succession.
We've been doing succession circlebacks for a lot of this season,
the final season, and I know we're doing this Friday.
It was Sunday when it aired, but it was Memorial Day weekend,
so maybe some people were late on it.
I was like a day late on watching the finale, and I texted you like, I haven't watched it yet.
I'm staying off Twitter. I was so afraid I was going to get something spoiled, but I didn't.
I went into that final episode fully expecting to be incredibly right about Kendall and throw
his family to the side and being the guy and being like, that's what succession was all about. From
first episode, he was meant to be the the guy they opened the final episode with a very kendall like uh like
listening to music going into the office today's the day you know and we didn't get that spoilers
for succession spoilers spoilers spoilers spoilers spoilers series finale of succession we're about to spoil it tom at the top tom the king he broke a few
gregs and he made a tomlet i cannot believe how that finale turned out i thought it was a great
finale though it it was interesting the way it ends it doesn't leave you being like yeah
unless you're a huge wams gams guy i, or if you're part of the Shiv wagon, which she is in a way at the top now, right?
It leaves you almost wanting to see like another season,
which is a good thing.
But for me, I was like,
oh, how's it going to turn out with Tom?
And I thought Kendall was going to straight up kill himself.
I thought he was going to go to the top of the building and jump.
But it was satisfying in that the final episode
was captivating.
Start to finish had a huge twist at the end with Shiv throw and you killed the guy.
So you can't be CEO and his face and then him losing and being like, no, I didn't.
I made, uh, I made it up.
Uh, I wasn't there.
I wasn't, you know what?
I wasn't even at the wedding.
I did.
I didn't see you get married.
It was like, what are you doing?
And I think Roman's like, dude, like what is happening when he's squeezing Roman's head against the door, making him bleed and everything.
It was a great, great, great episode and a great finale.
And in the world we live in today where almost every finale is judged under a magnifying glass and hated.
I think they nailed it.
Yeah, I think they nailed it.
I think some people wanted more from. I don't know. Like if people liked it, they liked it. Yeah, I think they nailed it. I think some people wanted more from, I don't know.
Like if people liked it, they liked it.
If they hate it, they hate it.
Again, we're very much, this podcast reviews enough content
that has so many voices about it.
I've just learned to stop fighting it, right?
I liked it.
I thought it was perfect for what the show was.
Three awful people just got exactly which what they deserved
and a bunch of stuff they didn't deserve literally billions upon billions of dollars because that's
where they end up you know cushioning their fall uh like i said the tomlet it's a meal for a king
that's the real meal for a king and he basically ascends to like a life with a pipe that hates him
and a pain sponge yeah he's a pain sponge he basically pleaded for his
job to a guy who told him how much he wants to sleep with tom's wife and how she'll probably
sleep with him and tom just ate that shit and smiled does that make you uncomfortable tom
does that make you uncomfortable oh my and he's like no no we're we're grown men here
yeah and tom you know he's like i'm a wor warrior and i he grinds and it's like he does
all that stuff tom will die of a heart attack by like the age of like 55 because this job is
gonna wear him to a nub but he's gonna be dealing with someone who is like i mean we thought logan
was crazy this guy is just like a fucking he's on him he's a crazy person coke on the election night
like all of that crazy shit that logan would never like even think to do
i also want to go back and re-watch succession now through the eyes of this is the tom story
through the eyes of he is going to be the guy he's going to rise through the ranks even season four
there were moments in season four where i mean we talked about it the whole season we thought he was
going to get fired from greg we thought that look that he gave when him and shiv get into the fight and then he's just like staring up into the ceiling
it's like that's the look of a guy that's fucked right there yeah but no he was just that worm that
slimed his way to the top and kissed ass and basically took enough shit to make it to the
top and now he's gonna give everyone that shit he's going to be a horrendous boss even the way
he was telling greg like i I think we can keep you on,
but we're going to have to cut that salary in half.
Yeah.
Greg, Greg survived.
He's happy, but it's like,
you thought your life sucked for the last few years, dude.
It's about to get worse.
Cause the big guy knows you fucking, you know,
betrayed him for lack of a better term.
And you're going to keep your job, but you're going to,
he's the paint sponges sponge is what he's going to be right so it's all good and it's a good ending
for him like i know some people were like is he going to be the ceo in the end that would have
been a little too unrealistic and too like what do we do like that doesn't make any sense with
him here but him kind of just still being the clown kind of still being tom's assistant by the
end i liked that i
also liked how they dealt with logan having brian cox in the final episode having the kids sit
around and watch that video of him just talking about whatever with carrie on the couch like i
thought that was cool instead of doing a flashback you kept it within the tone of succession the
scene with them in the kitchen doing the disgusting uh meal for a king spitting into the thing that was
maybe the happiest scene in the series history it's crazy they they acted like kids in a family
we've all had those nights and days with our late nights yeah silly shit and then you watch the old
home movies and there's you know the thing your parents say or the kids say and it's like a it
was such a running joke or whatever.
And it humanized these awful, terrible people
as much as any part of the show ever has.
So yeah, you absolutely nailed it.
And those were two of the more enjoyable parts of it all.
And then you just realize like, again,
Kendall saying he didn't kill the kid
in the middle of the office.
You're like, oh, you are just the fucking pits, my man.
And in the end, it all comes back to
tom which did you see the viral clip about the triple play wamskums and the name and i know
they i think the writers or the creator debunked it i'm believing this shit you know me i'm a
conservative i want to believe it i know i read your blog about i sent it to my girlfriend i was
like it's a fucking triple play it's the 1920s we should have seen this coming. And she had that before it went live.
It's not like she made this all up in her mind after it happened.
I was also thinking about her.
I was like, she's got to feel like the best when that comes true.
We've made 10,000 theory videos for Star Wars, Marvel shows.
We've had like maybe two hit.
I think I had one Marvel show where I was pretty good on it or a star forget which one it was head hitting on a finale like that having your theory go viral like before
the finale hits and then it being true oh my god that's a nerd's dream right there i really really
wish i had made some more brand like made brand wagon videos because i call brand wagon being the
king like three seasons before it happened but if i had done a full video i mean my whole thing was it just he's just it's so boring it
has to mean something not nearly as detailed as this one uh but and they can say all they want
that like it was just a coincidence that the name was there i'm gonna again i try not to believe
real life conspiracy theories because then i think that gets you into a whole lot of trouble as we're
seeing on a daily basic basically in this real world so i'm gonna have fun with this
shit where i'm gonna like believe this kind of stuff and then someone also pointed out how
tom as the kids rounding third in uh the first season first episode episode and he tags him out
like same kind of thing like ruthless and that's the reason why he makes the top and listen i
haven't worked in like fucking corporate boardrooms and all stuff but i worked in corporate america enough to know the
fucking weasels or i like to call them the cockroaches like tom are the ones that always
survive the nuclear blast they fucking kiss the right asses they're at the you know happy hours
they go out late they they schmooze with all the right people and like their life is that their
paycheck is awesome because of it but like their lives usually end up kind of like where you're sitting in the car which by the way when
he just puts out the hand you know he really doesn't want to open it and she puts her hand
at the top really doesn't want to hold it and it's like they're not even holding hands it's just
they're just like they're on top of each other yeah it was absolutely incredible it's like i
guess this is our life where we're stuck here. And speaking of the brand wagon, again, I was riding for Shiv.
I knew it was a very long shot she was going to win because it looked too good in the penultimate episode.
But the fact that she played such a big role at the end, it ended up just – she shivved her own brother Kendall.
She made the decision, yeah.
It was her decision in the end.
It was six to six, right?
Yeah, and I don't care what anyone says.
I'll go to my grave.
She – I don't even know anyone says. I'll go to my grave.
She, I don't even know if this is true, actually.
She helped the company by not letting Kendall take over.
I don't want to say it'll be in a better place because I don't know what the fuck Mattson is about to do because that dude is off his fucking rocker.
But with Tom involved and Mattson, I think, like, I think it'll, it won't crash and burn where kendall as soon as he
sits in that chair something changes in him he's just throwing out co-chair things to stewie that
might have been when chip is like fuck this guy and when she's like i love you but i cannot fucking
stomach you like it was perfect and i didn't see that i didn't think we were going to get a scene
like that boardroom scene where they go to their own little separate room and they're just basically
fighting it out and and roman like you said is the one person's getting his ass kicked yeah and then
he's like we're all bullshit like that's what they've been since day one shiv is fucking great
at the politics game but she never is smart enough to realize how to like make sure she gets it
kendall fucking gets 98 of the way there and then stumbles at the fucking goal line and roman is
just a fucking wild child that like
people seem to like but he just doesn't have like the it about him and he's definitely not the
killer so all that said um actually there is one kid though one kid fucking winner and it's the guy
that got his medals when he fucking when our boy connor was like well there was a first round of
stuff in the house where he takes stuff and he just has
that fucking shitty grin and you know the first round is just him right away and he's like it was
just me it's like we know connor we know it's just you he's a big winner also one of the biggest
winners of the entire series willa now lives in logan roy's house and is redecorating it like
she lives the life she's in a pretty happy relationship,
admitted happy.
She's like,
yeah,
there's something about this.
That's nice.
Boom.
Yup.
And like,
and it's also to the point where like,
they say like,
Oh,
she's not going to go with him and this and that.
And she's in the house.
Like she will be able to like,
be nice enough to Connor where it doesn't get weird.
But you know,
maybe there's a friend who shows up and they're doing their thing
and I don't think
they're going to... I don't think
death will do them part. I think something else will do them
part, but hey, Con's
needed this in his life. He needed a steadying
influence, especially with his dad passing
and his three siblings going to war and
coming up short. Our boy got a dub
and you know what? Once she
realizes she's going to be the
first lady in four years she's not gonna go anywhere first lady of the united states absolutely
great series though i i don't know do you put this up there with the best that was a big discussion
afterwards will this go down as one of the best shows of all time i go back and forth like i
loved it loved all four seasons but to me it's not a
breaking bad so i don't know yeah i almost think you need to put it in tiers right where i say like
yeah here's breaking bad sopranos the wire it's so like like game of thrones what's game of thrones
would have been there but the season finale for sure i think it goes down to the a tier i don't
think i could drop it below the A tier, though,
because it did have such an impact.
And I don't even know, like,
Thrones had so many good seasons
and so many amazing characters and yes moments.
I don't even know if I could put Succession above Thrones.
No, I can't.
I definitely cannot put it above Thrones.
There's a hundred different parts.
Thrones stuff happened.
I'm pretty sure I could be dead wrong.
And listen, I know there's gonna be Succession super fans that'll call me i'm in it i think when mattson takes over in like
the last scene of the show before everyone goes your separate ways that was the first time a deal
actually happened at the show yeah we heard about gojo and pgh and fucking uh company in the first
season with the guy who's kind of addicted kendall and they hated each other yeah this was the first it was i call it grown-ups entourage where it's like yeah something's gonna
happen it's gonna happen doesn't happen and then finally at the end it happens sale goes through
and you know kendall gets said uh so i don't think i could throw it up i'd say it's like b
tier for hbo which is like S tier for basically any other show.
Anything else.
Agreed.
Agreed.
And we're not trying to be down on Succession or Jeff D'Lo is going to be pissed.
He is going to be like, I'm killing both you guys.
But I just don't, I don't know.
When it ended, I was like, what an amazing show.
What a phenomenal show.
I wasn't like, that was one of the greatest shows of all time.
A lot of great characters.
I think it hurts
a little bit that none of them are likable i like other than connor or connor of course
but there wasn't like what's the moment in succession that made you go yes the most was
it kendall like turning on logan in the press conference yeah you know maybe like but like
they're all just narcissistic assholes.
How could you possibly be so happy?
There's no feel-good moments at all.
That was my mom asked me recently.
We were down the shore for Memorial Day weekend,
all getting ready for the succession finale.
She's like, should I watch that show?
We were like, yeah, it's great.
You would probably really be entertained by it.
She's like, does it feel good?
We were like, hmm.
There's actually not a single feel-good moment in four seasons worth of it so no and she's like man then maybe i won't but you
last you laugh your ass off though that's the weird thing it's not feel good but you feel good
while watching it because you're laughing at like boar on the floor greg's stupid shit oh my god
boar on the floor l to the og l to the og i was cracking up i re-watched um just the scene
when logan has the uti and they call him like the piss mad king like that's hilarious shit so that
i think maybe the funniest moment in the show is when they're on the cruise ship trying to decide
or not the cruise ship they're trying to decide who to take the fall for the cruise ship and they're
on like the yacht and logan's just eating his eating his meal and tom walks over and just
takes something off his plate and eats it logan's like what the fuck he gives like he's
not even mad he's just so confused he's like tom what the fuck you're looking he gives the
darth vader a look around he doesn't know what's going on um but yeah amazing show fun recap it on
the podcast so fun talking about it great memes great memes some of the best memes
greg the egg is an all-time hbo character there's a couple all-time hbo characters in this i mean
logan for sure the three siblings will go up there roman i think roman might be the best character
of the three because he has the most like absurd shit right i also saw it i think it was was it in
the after the episode thing i think it was j was it in the, after the episode thing, I think it was Jesse Armstrong or Jesse strong,
whoever the creator is,
um,
said that this,
this whole show is almost a detour for Roman.
Like for the other people,
the other siblings,
this is their life.
He's like Roman in the beginning was kind of just like a playboy drinking,
super rich,
content with his life and bars.
Then he got dragged into all of this and it became his life
for a couple years but he's just going to go back to being a millionaire who gets drunk and is
probably really sleazy with women immediately after the show ends yeah and now he doesn't have
his dad in his life which is going to probably be like a deep hole because of like you tell
the way i even saw when he's uh in the the uti episode and he's like concerned about how he's
like you know what's
going to happen with him so he is one of those characters that is interesting like that i think
this is almost a way to put it because everyone's like is it an all-time show is it an all-time
show well if you're going to say like mount rushmore or whatever it may be no it's not i'm
going to make another thing do you think it's i'm going to say it's a hall of fame show because yeah
yeah what do we always hear about a whole he shouldn't be in the hall of fame he should be in the hall of very good i think this show is too good to be in the hall of very good
because the writing is so good and the character characters and the acting is so good so because
of that i'm putting it in the hall of fame it doesn't have a huge resume because it's only
four seasons long but again i think that actually almost helps its case yeah it didn't have the
drop-off that some other things did and i'm trying to think of a different player that I can compare it to
because I think this is a little bit strong of a comparison
because he won an MVP.
But it's almost like Terrell Davis with the Broncos back in the day.
He won an MVP, won two Super Bowls.
I don't think succession hit that level, but it's like sometimes less is more.
And I just think you bite into the succession sandwich,
and that shit is fucking delicious.
And it may not be a fucking six-foot but man is it fucking good so um I think it's a hall of fame show and again you have to throw the music into it too with the intro that's all part of it
and the way it played in pop culture yeah yeah so I'm gonna you're saying hall of fame as well
hall of fame instant hall of famer yeah first ballot Hall of Famer there you are first ballot Hall of Fame
my mom's basically it's fucking on the board
there you go it's on the board
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figure something out something fun for the people we got to get jose back in here too especially
because i saw he was at spider verse last night he did opening night for spider verse which you
know him in comic book movies he doesn't rush to the theater he's like i'll see it
when i see it i know the story from the comics he's very okay with that spider verse he's like
i'm there so i haven't even texted him yet i'm almost afraid to text him be like what did you
think i want to get his reaction like on the show yeah you know yeah i want to hear i'll hit him up
and starts breathing heavy into the mic when he starts thinking
about the Spider-Verse
and he is like a Spider-Verse guy too
he knows
he knows a lot about
Spider-Man
yeah
I'm gonna have to ask him
where it stands and all this
I just want to make this point before we go
I feel like that was one of the low-key
I don't want to say losers but but on the hot seat, The Flash was feeling good.
And now it's like, you know, you've got two bars to climb if you want to be the best superhero movie of 2023.
Because Guardians and now Spider-Verse are there.
And, like, you've got to at least get within.
People are saying The Flash has – people that have seen both are like The Flash has very, very, very similar story beats to across the Spider-Verse.
That's tough.
So it's tough to get beat to the punch there for a movie that has apparently been done for like 10 years.
DC just can't fucking get out of their own way.
It's like just put in the release date.
They lose.
Oh, man.
We'll see.
I'm excited for that as well.
So I'm going to go with good expectations.
Michael Keaton, Batman. Listen, you want to get nuts? Let's
get nuts. We'll see you next week.