My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 285 - THE FLASH REVIEWS ARE IN/CASTING OUR SPIDER-VERSE

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

Robbie and Clem are caught between multiverses this week, with 'Across The Spider-Verse' having just come out last week and 'The Flash' set to release next week - so they discuss both movies, recap the nerd news of the week, and select a couples Spider-Voices for 'Beyond The Spider-Verse'! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! HelloFresh: Use code FOX16 at HelloFresh.com/FOX16 for 16 FREE MEALS plus FREE SHIPPING! ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello, and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3C. I am your host, Robbie Fox, along with my co-host, Clem. I'm in a different basement this week. I am in a basement, but I'm over in Columbus. I'm here to see All Time Low this week. Clem, you're back in the regular basement for one more day. As we record this, it's June 7th. Happy birthday, Dave Filoni. And you are on your way to Chicago tomorrow for the Dozen Live. How are you feeling? had to call home from school we had him uh spitting water at people at sienna's little art show that she had for school so i uh i basically would have just went to i said i'm ready to walk through the

smoke all the way to chicago the canadian smoke and just walk there just have like a night alone so uh i'm very happy to be in the basement this is our safe place we're feeling good about it right now i'm very very happy to be here and i you, man, you know how it is with the dozen. It's like it's a fun thing. And, you know, it's always, yeah, it's trivia, whatever. And then you get the nerves. And we've been in the Final Four. I mean, you forget Final Four.

You won the whole damn thing. We faced you in the championship, championship, as I call it. Last year, we were in the Final Four. We lost to the eventual champ. We've actually lost to the eventual champ we've actually lost the eventual champs both times when i think about it so it's your time i think it's your time clem it's zd's time man listen first of all the people that say uh they rig it for us can go because i didn't hear i might have contributed to that because i say that jeff dilo stacks the

deck in every which way and i don't, I don't know if everyone realizes that, like as soon as I'm done with the dozen, I'm not going to Jeff and complaining about the matches like some people do. There are people who do. I'm very much, yeah. But I do like when I'm live saying that Jeff is like Vince McMahon and he's stacking the deck against everyone. I didn't hear anyone saying, you know, Jeff stacks the deck against ZD

or Jeff helps ZD out. When we were facing just absolute, we were like we're in the main event every goddamn week. And it was like we were like our strength of schedule was number one with a bullet. And we're still just figuring ourselves out here. So it's exciting. It's nerve wracking. And I'll tell you, man, like we have a little bit of strategy planned out. So this doesn't will have happened already at this point.

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people and you know, nothing. There's very few things that Dave loves, but the stuff he loves, Snacks kind of would put us on the map here. It gets a lot of love from the people. There's very few things that Dave loves, but the stuff he loves, you always just want to hear that Portnoy laugh and whatever. And he loves when the big boys can instantly get the snack thing. The thing is, there's just so many goddamn snacks. And we're not talking snacks that are out today. We're talking snacks that were out 20 years ago, discontinued, brought back, varieties, all this kind of stuff.

So we said we have to kind of mix it up because we had Cheetos twists and it was twisted puffs. Like there's just too many varieties and too many things. So we said, you know, we're going to do, we're going to go the old Brandon Walker method. It's his show, right? That's what I always hear. It's his show. Guy basically memorized a like 90 minute movie and that thing you do. So we're going to do the same. We're throw. And we had to do one that kind of hit all three of us so we had a couple movies you

threw around and there wasn't believe it or not one that we could get so i said what about king of kong and dave says i'm down for king of kong so we are using king of kong as our niche we're cool it's like going with a new quarterback as you're going into the into the playoffs right it's kind of crazy how it's not even that like the afc championship game and it's like going with a new quarterback as you're going into the playoffs, right? It's kind of crazy how it's – and not even that. Like the AFC championship game, and it's like, all right, we're going with Brady instead of this blood-soaked kid, and we'll see how it works out. I have no clue how it's going to go.

We're worried like it's one of those things where you know what the niche is. You want to be able to get it, and you kind of don't want the other team to be able to get it. And I think Brandon and Big Cat, who are two potential, you know, if we make it to the finals, potentially Big Cat. I think Rico knows some King of Kong if Minahan were to go to the finals. But it's like, hey, get your niche. You don't have to worry about it.

So we're changing up the niche. That's big, though. That's like old school Barstool as well. Like for your team, especially like three guys that have been, Dave, the Barstool guy. And then you and Eddie, two guys that have been here forever. Like, I like that you're doing a very nostalgic movie for Barstool fans. Billy Mitchell is an all time legend, as everyone knows.

If you're listening to the basement, you should have seen King of Kong and know the legend of Billy Mitchell, the all time video game heel. And if you don't know it, you have homework. You have to go online and you have to watch the account i blogged about it probably like three four or five times in my life and every single time like and if you haven't seen it go watch it right now i believe it it's free you go on youtube it's free here hour 22 not a long watch and it's it's i mean i'm telling you the unintentional comedy in this is pure rock solid gold crusted with diamonds, platinum on top,

whatever you want to say. It's crazy. Let me tell you how crazy this fucking movie is. Zach Hample, aka Foul Ball Guy, is like in the background of one scene and it's not even like a mention. He's like probably the 50th weirdest person in this movie, just to let you know.

And just based off of everything you know about Foul Ball Guy, he's still 50th weirdest person in this mood just to let you know and just based off of everything you know about foul ball guy he's still 50th it's an absolute fucking treasure trove of comedy and i was into king of khan before i had ever even um i really got into barstool like i i just loved it then i would hear dave and big cat always talk about it i'm like oh shit these guys are into it too so we're switching up the niche and we're already kind of like trying to plan out our game. We have the experts first. And the biggest thing with the experts, as you know, because you kind of have one of these glitches on your team,

you have to be ready for that second round potential three-point swing. Fran's going to double the celebrity mashup. She's going to get the celebrity mashup. All right, we're down 2-0 right now in our heads. We cannot go down 3-0. So I have to figure out a way to get to to get to two to one my boy sam lauderdale will be there he's a basement boy as well so i'm hoping i can call on sam um sometimes we get the celebrity matchup it's not our best category but uh so we're already kind

of thinking that so niches you know this and the biggest thing with the with the zd and i think just the teams in general, you have to know how to use your lifelines. That is more important than almost anything else in the game. Every game we've lost, we've messed up one lifeline, and it's the reason we lost when we look back at it. Even the Arizona Bowl that we lost to this expert team. So the fact I just spent about eight minutes talking about a trivia contest,

yeah, Bob, a little nervous, a little excited, and it should be a lot of fun though i'm excited for you i'm rooting for zd obviously the basement boys got to stick together the honkers when we got eliminated we misused the lifeline we should have used the lifeline to call for red notice that horrible rock movie that i didn't remember the title of instead we used it for college football and jack mack got that question right but you know if he would have gotten it wrong i don't think the other team would have got it where they did get red notice it's a whole convoluted thing i'm sure people are tired of us talking about the dozen already especially being when this comes out the dozen will have already happened so you

you will have seen if clem dave and eddie succeeded with their video game king of kong niche you will have seen if they made it to the championship and won the championship. Fingers crossed that they'll be watching this back as a historic tape of what the mindset of a champion is like. We do have kind of a random show today. The first thing I do when I go to that hotel is I'm drawing the blinds because I, again, get to wake up without the kids that morning.

I'm flying in at noon. I'm flying out at noon. So it's like, at least I like at least i get the night alone so i apologize but we got a good lineup here we do we have some news we don't have like a movie to talk about the flashes next week across the spider verse was last week so we're in a in a middle in between spot but spider verse is just as big a success and as big a hit and as big a beloved film that we thought it would be made upwards of 130 million opening weekend it's the biggest opening weekend in 2023 for an american movie uh highest rated movie ever on letterboxd which is a big famous movie like ranking site i'm not on it people always ask me if i'm on it i'm not i might one day um i don't

like that you have to do five stars though i like being able to do one through ten as well that's what what's holding me back from that's it um highest rated superhero movie ever on imdb an a on cinema score 95 and 96 from critics and fans on rotten tomatoes um we've been both kind of tweeting a lot of random information about this movie that's come out over the week. You tweeted one today that I loved. It took four years to complete the scene in the movie where all the spider people are chasing Miles Morales out of the Spider Society HQ. Four years. We knew it took like five years for the movie to get made. But the fact that that scene in particular wasn't done for four years is crazy.

I mean, there's the piece of information that the Lego part was animated by a 14-year-old kid who just happened to recreate the Across the Spider-Verse trailer in Lego. And they said, fuck it. Why don't we make you part of the movie and give you this little animation credit? Imagine him going off to college, putting on his resume, worked on Across the Spider-Verse as a 14-year-old. There's so much about this movie that's so cool, so cool to dive into on Twitter.

I would recommend everyone just clicking on the hashtag Across the Spider-Verse because you could read for hours and go down a rabbit hole, Spider-Verse-sized, about this movie. Yeah, it's just as good as we said i mean it's even better

i will say i feel like a lot of these reviews and stuff i think it almost like it gets the benefit of being a cartoon where it's like i you can't tell me it's better than endgame you can't tell me it's better than infinity war you can't tell me it's better than dark knight and i i love this movie we don't even have it better than it's a welcome to the, whatever. Yeah. Welcome to the spider verse. That's the prequel,

but there's so, and like, the thing is, there's just so much good shit going on still. Like the, all the Easter eggs. Did you see the here? I'll see if I can share it on the screen for the,

all the people on the YouTube here. It's it's, I think it's bullshit think it's bullshit as it ends up being but like it could be true is they're saying that the little spider man pop is one of the things chasing Miles Morales in the the spider chase scene and if you look at it you're like oh

and I was like is this fucking true and then basically everyone debunks it but it has gotten to the point where I wouldn't be shocked if it was true, right? No, that's a fact. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked by Spider Pig, as we said last week. Like if you told me Spider Pig from The Simpsons is somewhere in the background, I'd be like, I believe it. I can't wait for this movie to come out on digital, Blu-ray, whatever, to where we'll have high quality versions and be able to slow everything down you did go see it again with the kids how was the second viewing did you think it

was better on the second watch it was it was much better it was because wow yeah dude i don't know if my brain is just breaking down every time i watch a movie i'm like i didn't catch like any of this shit the first time and i think a lot of people complained about the gwen monologue in the beginning being just too loud and scatterbrained and i was able to kind of keep up with it a little bit more um but there's just a lot of things that setting stuff up and then a lot of aha oh that comes back uh it it was it was much better the second time around and that's not always the case for me i remember i watched love and thunder and i was like that movie was goddamn silly as fuck i don't know how I liked it as much as I did the first time. So that doesn't that isn't always the case.

I feel like I did like this and Guardians more the second time. Guardians 3, that is. So I definitely recommend checking it out if you can, like, use your kid as an excuse or you just want to go and have another time at the movies. I don't know when it's going to come out on streaming, like you said. So you might as well just go out and have a good old time. There's a lot of shit you can pick up on. And then all these read the Easter egg things and then go to the movies and be like, oh, let me see this shit for myself.

Our guy, heavy spoilers. He's been crushing it with his across the Spider-Verse content. New rock stars. There's so much emergency. Awesome. Tons of crazy information about the movie, as I said, and a bunch of fun cast interviews from Haley Steinfeld talking about having to put contacts in for Hawkeye to make her eyes blue. I didn't even know that was a thing to Daniel Kaluuya and the star Miles Morales. I'm afraid I don't know his name, but he's so awesome as Miles.

He did like auto complete with Haley Steinfeld. That was so funny. In one of Oscar Isaac's interviews, he said he wants Pedro Pascal to be in Beyond the Spider-Verse. He said, I want him to be like a grumpy old spider person. And I liked that. I just picture him as Spider Joel from The Last of Us. Pissed about having to take some kid along or whatever. And then Daniel Kaluuya did an interview, Spider Punk, and said that he'd like to see snoop dog in the next uh beyond the spider verse

so i thought this would be a fun little activity here who would you make a spider person in beyond the spider verse if you could cast someone as a voice actor to be a spider person oh man that's a great question bob that's a great question like i'm thinking of all the big voices you know like because you think snoop so i'm thinking like a morgan freeman and just you know you pointed through michael cain anyone like that i kind of want it i kind of want to just throw chris uh chris pratt in there too just because i for my kids watched um the lego movie the other day like oh yeah chris pratt was in that i'm like oh he was in mario and i'm like i feel like chris pratt you're just gonna he's gonna be garfield too he's gonna be garfield too geez yeah that guy he's just every animated voice he's just every

what if they make the chris pratt spider-verse where there's like a mario spider-man and a garfield spider-man and a lego spider-man and chris pratt could do them all i like it you know who i'm gonna say my guy who's in the paint uh the poster behind me can't see it my guy bruce willis throw bruce willis in there i know he's retired from acting for obvious reasons but i mean an animated movie he can get ai it too yeah it's just a quick one and you know spider-man he has no shoes on he has no socks on he's a bloody uh wife beater on and it's like just trying to make things work in a tower in la i have a couple pics. It's funny that you said Michael Caine because he was one of the names I wrote down. Just that's a classic voice as a grumpy old

Spider-Man. I think Harrison Ford or Liam Neeson would be very, very funny as a badass spider woman. Miley Cyrus, I'm a big fan of Miley Cyrus's voice. She's got that raspy kind of next thing going on. I love Parks and Rec, so I just threw Amy Poehler's name in the mix as a spider Leslie Knope. And then my favorite one. I've requested this for years. A Spider-Man who is Mary

Jane is just weed. Give me Shane Gillis. Yes, I like that. Actually, you know what? Throw Portnoy in there, too. I feel like Portnoy's voice is... Oh, he would be funny. Boston Spider-Man. Give me that popcorn. That popcorn.

That would be great. And, you know, throw Josh Brolin in there. I'd love to hear Thanos' voice as Spider-Man just to, like, make my brain, like, hemorrhage a little bit. Like, what the fuck? This is two very separate things coming together. I can't hear his voice in anything without just seeing Thanos now. It's just, I hear Brolin.

I'm like, Oh, it's inevitable. Yeah. You get like the chills. I hear like his entrance to Wakanda in my head. Whenever I see it in the bomb, so fucking good.

Um, the flash reviews have hit rotten tomatoes. A lot more people have seen the flash after cinema con. We heard this is one of the best superhero movies ever made. Tom Cruise saw it, and he's like, this is exactly what filmmaking should be. We heard from DC, this movie's so good, you're going to forget everything Ezra Miller ever did. So we're thinking this is going to be something unlike anything we've ever seen before. It's going to be a mind blower.

It's going to blow the doors off, and DC is going to be set on the right path. After 90 submissions, it's at 71% on rotten tomatoes, a lot lower than I think a lot of us anticipated it being. And I've seen a lot of critics and people that have seen the movie and across the spider verse say the flash is going to suffer a lot from being a little bit too similar to across the Spider-Verse. And it's something that they couldn't help.

It's a sister movie type thing to multiversal superhero movies where it's like parents are in danger. And should you go back and change the multiverse to save your parents? Both of those movies are the same thing. I'm still very excited for The Flash, to be honest. The Michael Keaton Batman stuff, as we say every time we talk about this movie, is the big drawing factor for me,

but it does temper expectations. It does make you lower your expectations going into The Flash and saying, maybe this isn't going to be the dark night. Maybe it's going to be the next best thing, hopefully. I hate to do it, but I got to bring up my Stephen A. voice right here. Oh, no, this is bad.

This is very bad. This is worrisome right here, man. I just looked at the latest numbers here. We're at 71% on Rotten Tomatoes. And again, the critics, most of the time I disagree with them. It almost is a good thing, though, that it's now really is tempering expectations. Because we heard, like you said, so good. It makes you forget our superhero was a supervillain for like a year straight.

It's I'm going to go in with an open mind. I'm going to do my best. I am not going to hold the sins of being similar to the Spider-Verse. I am going to say, would it have killed you to try to beat out the Spider-verse if you knew that might be the case come on get your movie out first this movie's been done for how fucking long dc i i think they were just holding it because they were like we want people to forget about ezra miller so we'll hold it for as long as we we need to until people forget and he's not part of the press tour at all they said they don't want the focus to be on him they want the focus to be on the movie so it's just been the director anthony muschietti and the actress that's playing supergirl in this and i

think michael keaton went and did a screening in london or something but the director andy muschietti is tapped to direct batman the brave and the bold for james gunn's dcu now i've heard the flash does not set up james gunn's dcu initially we thought've heard. The Flash does not set up James Gunn's DCU. Initially we thought. Maybe this is going to fix things. And make sure it sets us along that line. I've heard that's not the case for the Flash. And that it's kind of it's own thing.

And there's apparently a Flash sequel script. That's done. The Flash 2. And they do not want to recast Ezra. They said they have no interest in recasting him. And after you see his performance in this movie, you'll realize there's no one else that could play the Flash. That already, it worries me, but it doesn't at the same time

because it worries me being like, I don't think we should stick around with Ezra Miller just in the DC universe at all. It doesn't worry me in that. I'm like, there's no fucking way the flash 2 gets made just in in general unless this makes a billion dollars instantly like the flash took 20 years to get made and it was this train wreck of a marketing you know budget whatever i don't think the flash 2 is getting made yeah i think it's one of those things where it's like

ezra could have been buddy it's just not gonna happen but hey you know just shitty circumstances of mostly you're doing here again like give it like release it two months from now in august when we kind of forget about the spider verse but it's gonna be in the same theater at the same time well not literally the same theater but the same set of theaters at the same time god damn it you guys are just killing me here uh but like you said i i think i think at this point just like clean breaks for dc it's if you get if you have to break some gregs to make a tomlet if you have to break some ezra's to make a fucking cinematic universe that is a complete dog shit and doesn't make sense at basically every turn like the flash two being the uh you know sacrificial lamb i won't lose any sleep at night about it but i mean we'll see here man i mean that is some that is some wild talk that it's like so

good we already have the script out we want ezra miller he must be it like dude it's the fucking flash you're telling me there could only be one flash is eight billion people in the world bob is that where i'm right now his face is like half covered in the mask anyway you know i get that he has to be barry allen on the side but come on man there's there's better people out there even if there's not better actors out there you don't need to be fucking humphrey bogart to be in the flash you know like there's better people out there i think robbie's throwing his hat in the ring right now throw the hat in the ring i could be the flash you could be the flash oh i would tear a hamstring immediately like the first oh look at that see that you're doing pretty good on youtube i could do a flash run you do the flash run pretty well um and you know what could fuel me

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think is starting to shoot in scotland next week I'm like, is that different overseas? Is it? I don't know, but the writer strikes going on and they're about to shoot. Did you also see the Kit Harington quote about Aria killing the night King? I saw that. What was the exact line again?

He said, when he read the script, he was pissed. He was like, I would have bet thousands of dollars that I was the one to kill the night King every time. And when I read that it was hard. Yeah was upset about that and understandably so i don't think he had to be the person to kill the night king i think they could have handled the night king way better

obviously i don't think it had to be john snow it probably would have been best if it was john snow though yeah so i don't i must have i think i did the rewatch right before it when you rewatch it it's like it's leading up to the inevitable Jon Snow versus the Night King. And I guess you're like, oh, they kind of threw a twist in there. No, it really makes everything else just like basically the whole other season made all the other seasons feel completely fucking irrelevant and all the buildup. And listen, I fucking like Arya. I would have had no problem with Arya killing the Night King if they weren't making the Jon Snow versus Night King matchup. The fucking guy was just hiding behind dragon fire.

He's like, oh, don't burn me, dragon. He was just sitting there the whole entire time as the Night King just ransacked fucking Winterfell. So I'm getting some feelings coming up right now. I feel like bump the brakes here. But like you said, I didn't even think of this writer's strike thing. And now I'm thinking, oh Oh what's the worst that can happen If the people in charge of the Game of Thrones series

Have to do it without the actual writer In this case George R.R. Martin The entire season we just talked about is what happened And it was a fucking train wreck They Forget about crashing the landing We would be like crashing during this We're still ascending

We're not even The seatbelt we're still ascending we're going we're not even the seatbelt sign is still on for house of the dragon and i don't fucking feel safe about them getting above the clouds right now do you know and everyone told us when we were recapping the first season like this season's just a prologue to the real shit so now we're getting into the real shit and now it's like oh what are we gonna do here so yeah that worries me it definitely makes me a little fearful and it's also like we came out of covid and everything was delayed production wise because of covid and we were finally starting to catch up and hollywood was starting to feel like hollywood again blockbusters big box office movies people going

back to the movies and now everything's gonna get delayed delayed again and jammed up and what the fuck figure it out California Hollywood I have people wearing masks right now I mean granted because of the fires I feel like it's 2020 all over again I'm not going back Bob I'm not going back I'm not fucking ending it all I'm not doing another fucking pandemic light here or whatever the hell is going on

like I could see them I mean I'll try not to spoil anything we just did spoil Game of Thrones with people. Like in the big moment that happens, right? Where it's like, oh fuck, that's just going to, that's going to be a problem. And then like we start season two, we're like, oh yeah, we forgot that even happened. Cause that's basically what, remember when they were like, uh, Daenerys forgot that like the Iron Fleet was outside or whatever.

Yeah. They forgot? What are you guys talking about while she was drinking her starbucks yeah yeah exactly oh no this is very bad this is very bad i'm steven a clem right now fuck um better news or at least this i don't know if this is like good news it's just news captain america 4 has a new title they've renamed captain america for the original title or the subtitle was captain america new world order for life the nwo that's what it made me think of now it'll be subtitled brave new world sounds very similar obviously world is still in it sounds very

optimistic in a nice captain america way and it was accompanied by a pretty cool picture of anthony mackie in the captain america suit like shaking hands or talking to Harrison Ford, who will be playing Everett Ross in this movie, President Ross in this movie. And he said something like when Harrison Ford gives you advice on how to kick ass, you listen or something like that. So it was cool to see those two back and forth. I loved the Harrison Ford Esquire profile from this this week especially the quote where he said he constantly gets asked who would win in a fight indiana jones or han solo he's like don't ask me that stupid shit i don't want to answer that fucking phony crap oh i love when grandpa goes full grandpa mode on people it's like this this those fucking movies lined your pockets with pure gold and are

the reason you have everything in your life but hey fuck them like don't don't give the nerds any happiness here don't answer the question like i guarantee he's killed someone over the who shot first with grito i guarantee he's actually there's a body somewhere on this planet that harrison ford laid to waste um i so i think this is a good thing i thought new world order was a bad idea because listen the nwo is a good thing. I thought New World Order was a bad idea. Because listen, the NWO is a fucking big thing for a lot of comic people. Because the comic book and wrestling Venn diagrams, they overlap a lot. Look at the two idiots right now talking in front of microphones, right? Brave New World is kind of fucking lame.

So I wish we'd come up with something different. I don't know. Like, you know, like the dozen. You just have, like, an answer you just have like an answer in your head or wording your head and you can't get off of it. Yeah. That's what that world for them. Yeah.

It's, it's new. It was new in world, right? Oh yeah. Brave new world. New world order. Yeah. Wow. They replaced further than I realized.

Oh yeah. It's bad. So if that's very like captain Americaica you know it's very superman captain america white meat baby face eat your vitamins and say your prayers yep and i don't know if that's if that's what they want to portray new world order i will say like the nwo kind of a little gritty so much oh like this is the new captain america he's gonna be a little grittier the world's a little grittier and now now I'm just like, brave new world. Like, it is kind of corny.

Like, I'm expecting your boy Chris Evans to come out and just be like. Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah. Come back from the moon. Did you hear how Robbie's voice just softened? Oh, that'd be nice. I swear to God, Rob. If he's not on the moon, I'm done with the MCU.

Because I've made it part of my canon at this point. Something I found out in the Harrison Ford profile that I wanted to bring to your attention. I didn't tell you this until we started recording because I wanted to get your real reaction to this. We know he loves flying. He loves flying his planes. He loves crashing his planes. He crashes all the time. He knows how to fly.

He does not know how to land. I found out that one of the things he is most passionate about in life is he has a foundation where for decades, I don't know if he still does it, but for decades, he would take kids up on flights to show them like the beauty of being a pilot and air travel. This is the last guy I would let fly my kids in a mini puddle jumper are you kidding me this is the easiest way to like find out if someone's parents don't read the news it's like up for real harrison offered to take us up on a plane right here unless he's like listen i can't ask the pilots to land the plane or else i'll lose my pilot's license. I'm sure it's like frown upon. So the kids probably land the plane instead of him. He's like, you play video games, right? You know how to do this shit.

Do you think Francis ever got asked? Isn't Francis like family friends with Harrison Ford or something like that? Yeah, he had a blog about it. He like met the king of Jordan and went to lunch with him. And Harrison Ford happened to be there and they hit it off or something. It's crazy. He's got a picture with him and everything. remember he was doing that i think he was like ripping you a little with it too i was like oh yeah guy rob was hurting with that one oh that is

that is rich i i i when i was doing the game of thrones analogy with landing planes and crashing i should have just made a harris ford analogy the whole time i'm staring right in the face oh that's a great story though kind of terrifying yeah i could i there was i'm not gonna make the joke i was gonna make there's another person who was a big pop star in the 90s i think i'd rather have harrison ford more than him that's probably the only famous person in the world that is i that would be that case keeping on the marvel trend this isn't even a news item. This is just a reminder. Secret Invasion comes out in two weeks, June 21st. And my little note here, Marvel seemingly keeping it a secret. Because have we heard anything about this since the initial trailer?

I saw this on Reddit today. It said, by the way, does everyone realize that Secret Wars is still coming out? That's where I got it. Yeah. I didn't realize. This is the third time he's back. Oh, no, this is the third time he's back. Oh no,

this is bad. This is very bad. Like Disney plus is probably just taking so many hits with like the streaming shit. And I saw there's someone where they're writing off a billion dollars. I don't even know what any of that, those words mean. I don't know if it's even a good thing or a bad thing for them. I don't know what that means either.

I saw someone posted the Seinfeld clip where they're like, what's a write-off. It's like, they don't even know, but they're writing it off exactly i don't feel good about it because i like kind of with the flash well like with the flash it was like there you said they were having um screeners for people even though the movie wasn't done they were doing it a just a ton of pub for saying listen we know this movie's gonna fucking rule when you go straight like silence mode it's kind of of like, oh, yeah, that's coming out.

Don't really worry about that. It's kind of that's just going to set up some other stuff in the future. That's what it feels like to me right now. And I'm fucking terrified of it. But also, we kind of had those vibes for Andor. I'll be honest. Right before Andor came out, there wasn't a ton of hype for that and even started a little slow. Once we got into the mix,

we were like, Oh, this is the shit. So fingers crossed secret invasion is a little more Andor than, you know, some of the shows that we didn't enjoy as much. That's, that's a fair point.

And I was going to say star Wars at that point, they did have Mando, but I feel like there was like some losses that star Wars has taken. So they're like, we have to be a little reserved with this but Marvel's had losses too it's not like I mean after Ant-Man they might be like yeah like let's like we knew Guardians was gonna

be a banger it's fucking that's what James Gunn does but maybe after Ant-Man some of the shows that came out last year they're like oh yeah by the way like Samuel Jackson be like you motherfuckers Samuel Jackson's Spider-Man would be good too right oh he'd be great. It's just... Yeah.

Another premiere date got announced. Ahsoka, we finally have a date on when Ahsoka will come out. August 23rd on Disney+. Around the time that we were told. We were told late summer, early fall. They cut up a new trailer, but it's not really a new trailer. It's all footage that we've seen from the old trailers would have liked to see something new but i'm sure we'll get one more teaser before the show comes out and it's one of those shows that you don't really have to sell me on i'm there for ahsoka yeah i'm there for ahsoka you guys

i mean ahsoka and then uh what's the droid that i'm gonna love chopper you're gonna love chopper voiced by dave filoni happy birthday dave filoni the true heir to the empire i also got a shout out i had never gotten a welcome uh instead of may the fourth be with you and revenge of the fifth we got a happy order 66 day i've never gotten that before i kind of fucking liked it it was kind of like uh i liked it too it reminded me of avenger the sith it got the juices flowing like you say whenever you get reminded of order 66 you got to go on youtube and watch all the scenes i kind of felt that way when i saw that tweet i was like yeah that's nice yeah it felt good it's a fight it's a sick and twisted thing but i mean it's one of the it's i mean definitely the best part of do i say it's the

best part of the prequels? Is that a little dark? But it's like. It's up there, though. That's not like a crazy, controversial thing to say, I don't think. Yeah, it's like I'm not happy that, like, all the Jedi died and these young ones got slaughtered. But it kind of is like, oh, that's an oh, fuck moment, right? There's not really a lot of it.

I don't feel anything for basically 99% of the prequels. I felt something during that and the fact that they're still flashing back in like bando yeah let you know it's good there was a lot of controversy over how many jedi survived order 66 this week i don't know if you caught any of that because it was very i caught a star wars nerd twitter thing but apparently there were there were about 10 000 jedi i think when they were like at their peak or whatever and after order 66 less than 100 exists and in george lucas's mind he said after return of the jedi they were somewhere from 50 to 100 and people thought that was like way too much

i didn't take any issue with that i was kind of like all right i get that when people saw the original trilogy they thought luke was the last one and i'm sure like growing up having the prequels having the clone wars when i was you know even still growing up like part of me is it makes it easier for me to accept that luke wasn't my only one but 50 to 100 out of 10 000 i was like yeah that sounds about right i don't think they killed every last one. I don't know. I was fine with that. Yeah, no, I've come to grips with it.

And I don't, like, they're not practicing anymore. I guess that's the word I use. They're in the outer rim. They're hiding. They probably all, like, a lot of them probably just died out one way or another. Yeah. I don't think anyone else was going to come. A lot of them probably went like Yoda and never had a Luke to come visit them.

You know, like, they were just chilling on a Dagobah like planet. And then they died of old age. It's like when a Mormon gets to actually go out and like live, like they get to like put the values behind or breaking. No, it was a breaking Amish. Oh, yeah. That's a show for sure. Yeah. That was a thing.

Yeah. And then they go out. It's like you, especially a strict place like the jedi they're always very much which again we are i think we're in the gray area together with the jedi they were a little too rigid the siths are obviously pure evil i think that you know guys like mace windu was a problem this shit all fell apart the way it did and people like anakin uh went the way they did but like some of these guys man they've just been fucked for years, fucked over by the Jedi Council.

You go out, you can move shit with your mind, you can make people's thoughts change, you can do some crazy shit. There's a story to be told for the breaking fucking Amish of the Jedi. Let's get crazy here. They're fucking... I'm not saying we have to mainline heroin or anything,

but I want to see these guys get crazy, do some fucking things by changing people's minds nothing problematic when i look at cancel it is 2023 after all but hey let's have some fucking fun with these jedi man there's 50 or 100 of them out there and like other than fucking old uh obi-wan who was just sitting around like a creepy old man in his fucking game watching like a 10 year old boy from a distance i think like we can have some fun with this like that doesn't i'm not saying it has to be a movie not saying it has to be like a full-blown series but give us like give us a disney plus special star wars marvel type thing yeah yes like hey listen feloni i know you listen to the podcast like and or some of the best part about and or is a little more mature stuff.

There's a market for it. We're all grownups here. Let's have some fun with it. Let's see what happened to the Jedi that, you know, they broke bad. They got a little crazy. You sound like Christopher Lloyd in The Mandalorian when he's like, Count Dooku had a lot of good ideas, okay?

He wasn't crazy. He wasn't crazy. The guy had a big red button on his desk. I'll never get over that. Do not press print it above it oh my all robots turn into bad guys if you press oh breaking sith no it wouldn't be breaking sith because that's a little oh but that's a better title it is breaking dark breaking jedi is kind of cool breaking jedi could work too breaking the force

something like that it could even breaking the balance breaking the balance how about that balance yep it could even be a cartoon if you don't want to have live actors as we saw with spider-verse you can make adult things happen with like cartoons so let's get this done feloni i'll have a viewer me i'm pretty sure disney's like cutting everything off because again they're uh what are they doing again what are they doing with the books the the they're writing it off they're writing it off so i bet maybe that opens up wrote it off yeah yeah yeah crazy and they fired the person or laid off the person who saved toy story 2 on their computer when toy story 2 is 90 completed it got deleted off the computers at pixar one person had it saved on their computer

at home the all-time backup save and they let that person go i don't care if she was doing nothing for the last 20 years that should earn you a paycheck for life i'm not saying the jobs you shouldn't make her come into the office you should just send her money for life yeah so i i saw that news and i was reading all the replies and it was a lot of like what have you done for me lately and people were like uh lately that was 25 years ago dude we're on like toy story fives coming out and they had like a huge gap between a bunch of them and i'm with you robbie like you saved that and i think she was on like maternity leave or she was pregnant so she was out of the office and that's why it didn't get deleted like congratulations you won the win for life ticket like basically you have the job you're

getting the perks you're getting the benefits the pension whatever it may be but you don't like you're like you're not gonna get more raises you don't show up for your performance review anymore but you're not going off the books like that it's like having the disney last name i think that kind of gets you like somewhere in the fucking org chart no matter what it may be so that i'm with you man that broke my heart i didn't like seeing that i hated seeing that and then one final thing for this podcast it's a new segment that i'd like to introduce to this show and it's kind of a segment that we've always ran with on this show but i want to name it officially so this is a new segment we call james cameron will hammer him and we're just going to highlight the worst stories about james cameron yes this one coming from our guy arnold

schwarzenegger the governator the terminator he says that back on the terminator the first one he suggested they changed the iconic line i'll be back to i will be back because it sounded more machine like. And he just went up to James Cameron said, what do you think about this is maybe more like a machine. James Cameron's response was, are you the writer? Don't tell me how to fucking write. Come on. I mean, that was a decent suggestion.

Obviously, I'll be back is the right move. You made the right call with I'll be back. Iconic. That's an OK suggestion for Arnie to make. I will be back as a machine he's thinking about his character he's thinking about the role james cameron you don't got to be such a dick what an asshole man and arnie too like just happy old arnold schwarzenegger i mean look we have like a quote-unquote tough boss right but you know what dave he'll always

listen he'd never be like get the fuck out of here what the fuck's your fucking problem yeah you'd always just be like no you're crazy you're wrong i'm right and i'd be like, get the fuck out of here. What the fuck's your fucking problem? You'd always just be like, no, you're crazy. You're wrong. I'm right. And I'd be like, yeah, Dave, you built this whole company for nothing. You are right. Man, what a fucking dick. But you know what? Avatar, I saw Avatar, Way of War or whatever is on Disney+.

Can't wait for that to collect some dust. I will never, ever watch that movie in my fucking house. You can take that off. Write that off. Yeah, write that off. Take that off Disney+. Nobody's looking to watch that. Yeah. Hey, Disney, you're looking to save movies? Just cancel the next seven fucking Space Pocahontas movies. You have Green Liver

that's fucking bozo bum that can't even just be Sybil with Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger, who, by the way, fucking was a hit in Terminator, hit in True Lies, probably another fucking James Cameron movie I'm thinking of what a goddamn bozo what is this Cameron? Hammering Cameron?

I love it Bob, fuck this guy Hammering Cameron, James Cameron will hammer him someone needs to come up with a theme song I would love that, a theme song for this segment James Cameron will hammer him something like that I would love that.

And send in your own James Cameron stories. If you've got bad James Cameron stories, send them in and we'll do a segment on it. Yeah. Even if they're not real. Like my dad, you know, painted his house and he was just really uppity. Even better. Yeah. Make them up.

We'll say allegedly beforehand and we'll get out of the lawsuits via that. All right. That was the podcast for this week i'm sending our sweet clem off to chicago with the best of vibes may the force be with you eddie and dave hopefully bring in another title down to the basement hell yeah hopefully we make it there because smoke is still not leaving and i heard they were grounding flights and there's no fucking way i'm taking a caravan with all the other fucking misfits at barstool to chicago i'll just wave the white flag ability we'll get you guys next year well we'll see you next week and we'll be talking about the flash next week so come back

and uh find out if it was worth the hype or not