My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 286 - MICHAEL CHANDLER & MEGAN ANDERSON

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

Michael Chandler joins the Spinnin Backfist crew to discuss his experience coaching The Ultimate Fighter this season against Conor McGregor, and then Megan Anderson talks filming Extraction 2 with Chris Hemsworth! ****************************************    My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3C and Barstool Sports. I am your host, Robbie Fox, and happy 616 day. It's just me today. I'm not accompanied by Clem per usual. We will be doing our usual episode on The Flash this Sunday. This Sunday, June 18th, look out for it. Unfortunately, with the way our schedules are aligning this week, we could not see the movie on release day, so we haven't seen it yet.

We're going to be seeing the movie on Saturday, and the podcast will release on Sunday, per usual. But I said, let me hold the people over with some MMA interviews on a Friday. So if you're into MMA, this is going to be the show for you. If not, I'll see you on Sunday. I understand. But I've got interviews with Michael Chandler, Conor McGregor's next opponent, and Megan Anderson.

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for all of the Spinning Back Fist MMA show content. So me, Jack Mack, and Big Ev are doing fight breakdowns, fight recaps, X's and O's type stuff. If you're into the nitty gritty of MMA, make sure to go subscribe to Spinning Back Fist on all podcast feeds, wherever you get your podcasts, wherever you're listening to this, we are also there. So MMA stuff, Spinning Back Fist, you know, occasionally it bleeds into my mom's basement, but generally it'll be there. This is a bit of a sampler though, so we've got a taste of what you could get on the Spinning Backfist MMA show. Here we are this week with Michael Chandler.

Alright, welcome back to the Spinning Backfist MMA show. It is Robbie Fox, Jack Mack, Big Ev, and Michael Chandler. Obviously here to talk The Ultimate Fighter, coaching against one of my guys, Conor McGregor. Season 31, what did you make of the whole experience, obviously starting there, of coaching The Ultimate Fighter? From what we've seen so far, it seems like you've very much dove into it headfirst. Yeah, I, you know, immediately, obviously when you get the opportunity, UFC calls, you say, hey, you're going to do The Ultimate Fighter fighter against Conor and then you guys are gonna fight obviously my number one competitor

in me my number one instinct is I want to beat Conor I want to beat Conor every every turn I want to beat him on the show be a better better fighter better coach better coach better mentor everything but then I met my guys and then realized the opportunity that they had and I was the guy who was in charge of ushering them into leading them into the greatest second chance they ever could have asked for. So, um, it was a lot of work, um, to say the least. And it was a lot more work than I thought because I ended up carrying way too much, maybe not way too much. I cared, I cared the right amount, but it was a lot. Do you think this will usher kind of your

post career as maybe a coach or no I don't think so uh and not to sound you know for any other reason like if I was going to get paid NFL coach money yeah of course yeah you know or or even whatever insert other professional sport here kind of coach I mean there's just you know it's not something that I want to dedicate all that time to be away from my family even more while pouring into somebody else's career instead of mine. But yeah, for those four weeks, those five weeks that we were there, it was, it was a very cool experience. And people always ask, would you do it again? Yes, I would because of the exposure because of ESPN and all that. But, you know, it was definitely, definitely a tough little run there. Wow. But, you know, it was definitely, uh, definitely

a tough little run there. Wow. When did you realize it was tough? Like when did it click in your mind? Oh my God, this is a little bit harder than he signed up. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it was more, you know, the, the honeymoon phase of that first week, uh, right around that second week, I was like, Whoa, man, I realize I am pouring so much emotional, so much emotion, so much of my heart and my person into this that, you know, I'd wake up not feeling rested. I'd go to bed spinning and thinking at night, OK, how do I how do we do this? Or what about this guy's weight cut? Or what about this guy? He said this today. Is he going to be where he needs to be mentally? And then I wake up not well rested. Then you got a camera on you at all times then you got a camera on you at all times you got a microphone on you at all times I'm I'm also not just taking care of my coaches but I'm taking care

or my coat or my fighters but I'm also taking care of my coaches making sure they're well fed taken care of and all that kind of stuff so I think I just tried to please everybody because I was I was the guy who had the name on my name was on the back of the jersey so I took that ownership of it all um so I'm glad it wasn't any longer than the four or five weeks we were there because I might have drove myself into a hole in the desert somewhere. So I was going to say, even watching like even last night's episode, I've noticed like you've taken a very like – obviously the physical training all of it's a huge aspect of it,

but I've noticed you've taken a big like kind of the mental approach where like you're talking to them last night like you're better than me here, like this way, this way, go out. Like give them that kind of like that that pepped up that confidence is that something that the coach has done to you or like where where does that is that come from you just kind of like get him psyched up for the fight get him like build his confidence up like where does that come from yeah it's a good question i mean really from a practical standpoint if you really look at it these guys had i had my first batch of fighters for the first five or six days before

they fought there wasn't much that i could teach them about the X's and O's of fighting. They had already been to the UFC, had some success, had some losses. They know how to punch, kick, knee, elbow, wrestle. They know how to do all that stuff. There was little tweaks we could make, but for the most part, I needed to get fighter A believing in himself to be able to step inside that octagon on fight night and be able to win. So I think, number one, I needed to show up as a leader and lead with love and just say,

hey, I'm here for you because they don't care what you know until they know that you care. They didn't care that I was this high-profile guy or this big fighter guy. If I wasn't there to meet them at their level, look them in the eye and say, I'm here for you. I'm here to serve you. Yes, it's my name on the back of the jersey. Yeah, my name's on ESPN ticker. My name is out there you. I'm here to serve you. Yes. It's my name on the back of the jersey. Yeah. My name's on ESPN ticker and my name is out there, but I'm here to serve you. So it was more them knowing without a shadow of a doubt that I believed in them because with belief in somebody or somebody's belief in you, it makes you fight outside of yourself, perform outside of

yourself. And then yeah, ultimately getting them to win the battle between their ears before they actually stepped inside on fight night. How important would you say the fighting mental game is? Obviously we hear Yogi Berra has that infamous quote about baseball, like 90% of baseball is all mental. The other half is physical or whatever. I mean, but obviously, I mean, it's baseball, golf, whatnot. They're all confident sports. But this is you can't really even compare that to baseball or golf because it's a whole different level. But is that mental game in your head as important as it is in other sports, you would say? I think, yeah, definitely.

It's just, you know, it's so much more mental than it is physical because at especially at the highest level you talk about the ufc you talk about me fighting connor i mean we're within one degree of separation away from each other's skill yeah we're both the same size we're both strong we're both fast we can both hit hard but ultimately do i step across the line back down to the mouthpiece believing that i'm gonna beat you more than you believe that you're going to beat me and then once you get into the fight and then you get deep into the second round the third round the fourth round fifth round it's the subconscious belief in yourself that you have been rehearsing and manifesting over and over that carries you into the almost involuntary actions you know there's so many times you look go back and look at fights and say wow i

can't believe he did that and it's like i wasn't even really thinking it just happened because of that about the tony kick right yeah because of the training and also because of my belief in myself to be able to land said technique or to be able to dig deep in those really tough times when your eyes are swollen shut your nose is broken you're breathing out of your mouth and you you feel like you're going to die so um it's so much more mental so me knowing that and being able to impart that wisdom on my young fighters or not necessarily that young um but my my guys was uh i think the most important aspect of me and my coaching staff my coaching staff did a phenomenal job of that as well so and talking about you fighting connor obviously when this season got booked we knew that at the end of it there's a fight

we didn't know when the fight's gonna happen we still don't know when the fight's gonna happen i think i saw today he's got two more days to get in the usada pool before the end of the year pay-per-view that'll be the six months when you're actually coaching and filming this do you think the fight is upcoming are you thinking about like x's and o's of that fight is that weighing on you mentally as you're trying to coach these fighters or no no not really i mean obviously you know i knew you know we filmed this back in february march so i knew we were months and months away i mean obviously the first the first possibility could have been maybe september or so right after the fight airs because yes traditionally the ultimate fighter is two guys coaching fighters and then they fight after the

show a lot of times it would make a lot of sense from a program and standpoint standpoint for us to fight right after the show gets done in august so we could fight in september but obviously timeline and all that stuff but ultimately being around him um starting to see how he interacted with his team us interacting with each other, a little bit of our up and down relationship, the tension that we had. He's a competitor. I'm a competitor. We both want to win. And ultimately we want to beat each other when we actually do fight. But, you know, yeah, I mean, historically the ultimate, the guys coaching the fighter have historically never not fought. So, um connor coming back on the

fight uh we just don't know when it's going to be and uh i also i know everybody's eager for the answers hey when is the fight going to happen you saw the testing pool connor's leg and all these connor's partying all these different things that people are talking about because people are so interested in him as a character outside of the octagon and also the fighter inside the octagon so it begs a ton of questions, a lot of speculation. But ultimately, I've been in contact with the UFC, talked to Hunter Campbell and Dana White both personally. The fight's happening.

They don't even have certain big pay-per-views necessarily announced yet. So if you expect our fight maybe November, December, or whatever it may be to be announced already, I think it's a tough ask right now. We're still sitting in June. So ultimately, we're fighting. Just got to know what it's going to be. I feel like the fans are making a big deal out of this party.

How do you take that in? Yeah, it's tough because, I mean, you never want to hear, I can't believe Chandler's waiting around and Conor's never coming back. There's so many people out there saying Conor's never coming back. I mean, Conor is laying a beautiful foundation and narrative right now, calling it the greatest comeback in combat sports history. I mean, guys, he's got a Netflix documentary coming out. McGregor Forever, yeah.

McGregor Forever. You didn't watch it? I haven't seen it yet. I mean, as his opponent, you would imagine that you should watch it, right? I'm waiting for my time to sit down and watch it when I'm just by myself and I can kind of analyze it, digest but it's great i'm in episode four i don't know how much you're in enemy territory right now with this no no i know yeah i knew i knew i knew he was i knew connor was doing the uh was it the mom's basement yep yeah with you in in

vegas yeah i watched uh i watched that i saw some clips from you guys oh thanks yeah i'm not yeah i'm not a big drinker but when it went in vegas you know you are today i was wasted by the end of the interview i was just feeling it now you know how he feels yeah well yeah no no he's got strong tolerance yeah strongest yeah but uh yeah no ultimately yeah i mean there's a lot of speculation. It's just – it's a big fight. I mean, Conor coming back might be one of the most massive events in UFC history over the last 30 years. Him coming back, overcoming the odds of a completely shattered leg. Obviously, all the stuff he's been doing in the media, his companies,

and all the different speculation, plus coupling that with, I think, a very tough fight for him to come back against, one of most entertaining most kind of violent guys in the sport so hats off to him for for that um but i think it's i think we all just need to be patient take a step back and hey let's enjoy the ride you know do you like this time off this is probably one of your longest layoffs in your career right 100 the longest yeah because i mean that's why everyone loves you because i mean you just go out there and then it's like oh my god chandler's fighting again when and then it's like like we want to see it of course but of course as fans we know there needs to be some time off but this is your longest

layoff by far yeah it really is and and uh you know there's there's always the pros and cons of that obviously we're talking about you know fighting in a cage yeah my last fight was tough the fight before that, tough. Every single fight. You said, do you have a fight that wasn't tough? Oh, the hooker fight. The hooker fight. Yeah.

Thank God for the hooker fight. That was a good one. That was my intro to the UFC. And then my wife was like, okay, this is going to be easy. Sweet. And here we go. Fight of the year. Fight of the year.

Fight of the year. Yeah, yeah. You know, and then broken orbital and face and all this other stuff. So, you know, it is, it's something I want to do. You know, I, I love being active. I'm constantly training. But you also, you know, can't squeeze blood from a turnip. You can't try to force things.

You can't, there's so many things that are out of my control. And just in life in general, let alone the biggest, one of the biggest sports platforms on the entire, on the entire world, trying to get the biggest sports superstar, one of the biggest sports platforms on the entire world, trying to get one of the biggest sports superstars in the world coming back off of an injury, trying to figure out the card, trying to figure out when it's going to happen. Then you throw in USADA. Then you throw in – there's a million different layers to this whole thing. So ultimately, I'm out there training.

I'm out here doing the media. We are building something beautiful right now, painting a masterpiece that will culminate hopefully by the end of the year, and it will be a lot of fun. Ultimately, you really willed into existence. You called him out for the hooker fight. It's probably been in that talk from basically that day. What was that, 2020?

Yeah, that was 2021. That was the first time I met you in the airport in Abu Dhabi after the fight. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it was Abu Dhabi. Yeah, dude. So, yeah, I mean, this is definitely a sport where, you know, you get that opportunity on a microphone after a nice big win like that. You make your shots.

You call your shots. Obviously back then it was Khabib and it was Conor, and then it's been Conor a couple times. And, you know, never waste a good opportunity after you knock somebody out like that. Oh, no. Call it out, Conor. And, you know, it's just – I think it's, me and Conor makes so much sense

because he is such a big name and there's so many questions and he's such a great skilled fighter and a great skilled competitor. And you got me who kind of came in, been calling him out since the very beginning, willed it into existence. And obviously my resume speaks for itself. The America versus Ireland thing too is such a nice factor in it. Yeah. You know, it's great great plus 12 hours on espn over 12 weeks you know over over the summer i mean it's just uh you know obviously you guys have seen the promo with him pushing me and some of the things we've said to each other push a rare face push face push yeah you don't see that often the face push but no veteran move my regret on

that face push yeah but it was very unexpected but it was also it just it's foreshadowing for how the rest of this season is going to be it's there's a a lot of they're painting some really cool stories with the guys and their backstories and then obviously me and Connor's relationship so it's uh it's been a lot of fun thus far you obviously had a respectful relationship before you even signed up for the ultimate fighter did you leave the ultimate fighter with a different look at Connor did anything surprise you about him you know i think i always and i've said it since the very beginning connor connor's very good at at uh being who he wants to be or who he feels led to be that day sometimes you're gonna get the nice quiet respectful connor the hey how you doing how's the kids connor or the like you know push you in the face Connor

which I love I loved just being a part of it because yes although he is my opposition although he is the opposition coach and the guy that I'm going to fight and we have a fight that will get scheduled soon it was also just an opportunity to be around him have him see the way that I'm interacting with people see the way that I carry myself feel the confidence that I have the aura about me the confidence in the security that I have in me I'm interacting with people, see the way that I carry myself, feel the confidence that I have, the aura about me, the confidence in the security that I have in me as an individual. So it gave us an opportunity to be around each other a lot. Um, but it was funny too, because you're always on eggshells too. You're always, you're always never, you never know how thin the ice is that you're standing on. Right. Cause Monday he could be nice and Tuesday he

could be nice. And then Wednesday he's like, that's I'm coming in you know so you never know so it was uh it was fun man I feel like we saw that and maybe like the first clip that got released from the season where he says you'll do what you're told yeah you're having such a friendly conversation before that yeah and then he flips it with that line you see your face like all right I guess we're doing this now yeah yeah yeah it's like all right here we go well and actually the funny thing is when I saw that clip, I was laying next to my wife and we saw it at the same time. She goes, doesn't that piss you off? Aren't you mad? I'm like, babe, no.

Number one, that's hilarious. Yeah. Number two, it's good for ratings. Number three, like who cares? The way they cut it, too, it just made everyone stoked for the season. Yeah, exactly. The way they cut it, I was just like, okay, I'm not going to say anything. So it's reality TV. It's what we signed up for. stoked for the season. Yeah, exactly. The way they cut it, I was just like, okay, I'm not going to say anything.

It's reality TV. It's what we signed up for. I knew there was going to be a moment every single episode. I'm like, that's not how it was, man, but whatever. Also, with that accent, everything says a little stank.

Yeah, exactly. It's like a cheat code. It is a 100% cheat code. If you have an accent, it's just funnier. You can say, give me a coffee, please. It's just funny. Patty is helped say, give me a coffee, please. Patty.

It's just funny. Patty is helped by that as well. Anyone, Australians? I know. I'm going to start picking up an accent. Yeah. Just a white guy from the Midwest. Do you – I've always felt this aura of confidence that you've had.

And like even now you're talking about how it's out of your hands, a lot of situations. Do you credit that to your faith or is there something else that because i know and something that i'm inspired by for with you is that confidence in your faith family and whatnot does that confidence come from that or is it more so just obviously going to a cage however many times you've done that wrestled probably a thousand times. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a mixture of all of it. You know, I think as human beings, we want safety and we want control.

If we all just had safety and we knew what was about to happen or we had control of what was about to happen, to us, our perception would be that life would be a lot easier. But the reality of it is that's just not the case. Nobody knows what tomorrow is going to bring and what tonight is going to bring. And in mixed martial arts, I don't know what it's going to bring when that cage door closes. I could be a million to one favorite against you. Yeah. And I think it'd be a little bit more.

Two million to one favorite. It'd be a little bit more. Right. But the fact of the matter is you could still beat me. You could catch me. You could in fights. Yeah. This is why we love the sport. This is why people love the sport of the matter is you could still beat me. You could catch me in fights. This is why we love the sport.

This is why people love the sport of mixed martial arts. That's why people are so romantic about it and crazed about it because we go to these arenas and we buy the tickets and we buy the pay-per-views because we don't know what's going to happen. It's not like the crescendo or the climax at the end of a movie when you're like, okay, well, I knew he was going to get out of the building without getting hurt. You know, it's fine. You just don't know that in mixed martial arts.

So I think giving up control. And then also I've failed so many times in my life. I thought my career was over when I lost three fights in a row, went 688 days without winning a fight. I already said goodbye to the sport many times, said goodbye to my skills, didn't think I was going to make it, didn't know I was going to be sitting right here with you guys with the biggest opportunity of my life.

So once you've already been there and you've made peace with that, then you realize, well, I step out of the cage. Win, lose, or draw, my God still loves me, my family still loves me, and I still love me, and most importantly, I still love me. And that was the hardest part for me to really deal with was was i didn't fully accept myself and i all the time or i didn't fully believe in myself but at some point you get to you get to a point where what can hurt me at this point you know what can beat me down there's i'm i am an indomitable spirit at this point because i've lost so many times i've failed so many times so you know if this fight did fall through it's not the

end of the world for me i mean don't even put it at energy but those kind of things when you say those things are out of your control you know so then you add to the business side of things and hunter campbell and dana white and sean shelby these guys trying to make this fight happen at a certain date at a certain time under a certain weight with these certain guys so it's a lot of stuff out of your control. All I can control is the here and now. Did you get to that point before you were at the UFC even? Yeah, I think in a lot of ways my path really did prepare me for this,

albeit it was on a smaller stage, Bellator. You were a top guy like for years. Yeah, which actually it sounds like an oxymoron or it sounds backwards but there's so much less pressure now than there was back then because i'm now i'm fighting the best guys in the world i haven't fought anybody who was outside the top five or six uh or a legend in the sport since i came into the ufc win lose or draw i'm gaining fans i'm gaining platform i'm gaining momentum no matter what. But back in Bellator, if I would have lost a certain amount of those guys that you guys didn't even really know about, that's a tough spot to be in.

So, you know, the losses helped me. The failures helped me. The sleepless nights helped me. The injuries helped me. The setbacks helped me. The being written off helped me. All those different things helped me get right here to be sitting with you guys. I would say, because I i was thinking a few things i i obviously i think even i just like we were actually at uh both the fights at the guard and obviously phenomenal fights

didn't go your way in the scorecards well you said now like your stock definitely went up no doubt big time i hadn't thought about perspective of with the bellator side like you had you had so much more to lose so much but i But I want to ask this, too. So obviously you talk about things planned, not planned. Promos, how much is that planned? I definitely had to plan a couple of those. That's fair. Even Izzy talked about it.

You have to. Even Izzy talked about it. He said he plans his in the shower after this big prayer when he said he had a couple that he had drawn up. He went with one of them. Some of DC's best were written you know you i mean you have to you know even you know funny thing is i'm doing good morning america tomorrow you think i haven't already thought about how that conversation might go and connor's sitting there in his thirty thousand dollar suit and then whoever's here you

you guys are doing it together oh yeah oh shit yeah so you know you it's it's not scripted so to speak you don't want to take away you don't want to take away the special moments of these lines being thrown out there. But ultimately, yeah, you've got to kind of know what you're going to say. You've got to come with some ammo. Yeah, and in order to be interesting, you have to be interested. You have to understand what you're going to be talking about, who you're going to call out. I mean, I've called out 12 guys so far on – you know, Khabib and Conor and Poirier, Oliveira, Gaethje, all these different guys.

And they all go in succession. You know, when I said, hey, if Hunter Campbell and Dana White have a momentary lapse of judgment and they give the title shot to someone else, I got one dude on my mind. Yeah. Conor McGregor. Yeah. You know, and here we are. So you – I don't – yeah, I probably practice in the shower.

Mostly in front of the mirror. Okay. I was talking – Izzy had like a long thing. Laying in bed at night. yeah, I probably practice in the shower. Mostly in front of the mirror. Okay. I was talking – Izzy had like a long thing. He said like he's a big shower guy. Yeah. He prepares him all in the shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been in there for 45 minutes.

That's what he says he does. There's something going on in there. That's what he says he does. There's something like tranquil with the water. He just sits there and like thinks about – Wow. He thinks about like the fight and like he thinks about what it's going to feel like when he knocks him out and like all – Do you visualize that kind of thing, too?

Yeah, man. Visualization in this sport, and I think in any aspect of life, is so important, man. You have to be there before you're actually there. And also just giving you the confidence of seeing yourself win increases the self-image. We are what we are and where we are because of what's going on inside of our mind. So the more you can be in control of what's going on inside your mind or talking to yourself, speaking positive things over your life, willing things into existence, going out on a limb and saying things emphatically and almost prophetically until they happen. It's so important, especially in this sport where you're essentially tied onto a tornado. You're essentially, there's so much chaos

happening, so you have to try to be there as much as you possibly can before you actually get there. So going past this, so like say for example, say Ferguson's fight, you visualize that now you literally put a highlight rail knockout into existence. Are you able to put into words the euphoric feeling post that? No.

You can't, man. I mean you did a hundred backflips. Yeah. I kept, you did a hundred backflips. Yeah. I kept looking at the fans and the fans were like, yeah, one more. I don't know, because it was funny, I was watching the pay-per-view, it was because you were like, wow, because seeing the backflips was

incredible, but then there was also, I don't know how much, I'm sure you saw it after, there's a moment where then Rogan's like, he hasn't moved yet. Yeah, I know. I swear. You're just flipping. That was somewhat of a bad look. But I had no idea. No, I didn't know.

I didn't know. Well, and really, actually, if you know the rules of mixed martial arts and how commissions work, and I don't mean to defend myself, but you're not really allowed to go over. Yeah, a lot of fighters do that. Sometimes they go over too fast. Yeah. Well, and actually, I think the most disrespectful thing that you can do to a man after he just gets knocked out or whatever –

because you've seen guys like, oh, good job, man. Good job. Give him a kiss on the head or something. To me, that's so disrespectful. I agree. I'm just like, dude, give me my moment to hate myself for a second. Yes. Because that's where you're at, right?

It's like, give me a moment. I know you just won, but this is my moment. I don't need you telling me everything should let the loser come up to you. Right. I honestly always do. And it may be misconstrued as bad sportsmanship. Cause I'm just like, knocked you out. See you later. But it's, it's kind of just like, dude, now you're in your world and I've been there before. And I don't, cause it's, it's actually, it's, it's something other than sportsmanship masquerading as sportsmanship, you know, going up and doing the thing. It's just, I don't – because it's actually – it's something other than sportsmanship masquerading as sportsmanship. A hundred percent. You know, going up and doing the thing.

It's just – I don't know what to call it. You're trying to like alpha the guy in a way. Yeah, it's weird, right? It's almost – yeah, I mean like the last thing you want to be told is like, hey, dude, you did that wrong. Yeah. It's like, I know I did it wrong. Like me and my wife hold each other accountable, but we both know that we're harder on ourselves than we are on ourselves. So like if I do something, the last thing she needs to just be like hey yeah you did that wrong i'm like

yeah sweetie i know did you yeah i did that wrong i'm fully aware did you see the video of um sahudo re-watching his fight against aljo with his wife no if if it's only his wife so his whole camp was like oh you're doing like you did, you did this right and his wife was just like you shouldn't have done that and then Tuto turned around and was like yeah I know so do you guys, do you and your wife do you re-watch your fights?

we do here and there, not a lot actually I really don't I usually don't actually go back and watch my losses much at all I actually go back and watch my losses much i'll go back and watch my wins all day long and it might sound narcissistic or whatever the same reason like if i watch film i'm gonna i'm only gonna watch the fights that the guy loses oh i don't want to see that guy you won't watch when i don't want to see that

guy win i want to see him at his worst i want to see where he made the mistakes in the in the times that he lost maybe it's uh maybe is ego. Maybe it is narcissism. I don't know. They're doing pretty good. But to me, the way that I feel when I watch it, all it's going to do is well up fear inside you. When I go watch Connor knock out Eddie Alvarez with that beautiful combo at Madison Square Garden.

Cowboy used to say that. Oh, God, he's going to do that to me. Cowboy used to say he didn't want to see the shot that puts you out because you would be afraid of that shot. Yeah. And everybody's got their own way of doing it but to me that's definitely a way that i like to like to do it but you know my wife and i don't really we watch fights every now and but she does she doesn't say anything like hey uh you probably shouldn't have got choked what's going on here yeah i'm like my nose was broken all right i didn't know where i was a

bubble a blood bubble sticking out of my nose. Do you have a favorite Michael Chandler meme? Shoot. There's a lot of good ones. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of it. I mean, obviously everybody talks about me talking and motivational stuff that I talk about, all that kind of stuff. How does Michael Chandler order a coffee? And it's like this big old one.

I'm like, I'm freaking leaving you alone, guys. I'm just trying to be me, you know? I mean, the one thing is, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What's your favorite Michael Chandler meme? I mean, I have one. It's got to be the... It's when you were in front of the TikTok HQ.

Okay. Have you seen that around? Have you seen that one? The meme? No. Oh, come on. It's just a picture of you posing in front of yourself. Okay.

It's just so funny. This guy really hyping himself up. We just did that today. We went to Instagram, met a Facebook thing, and they had a big old thing, so I took a picture in front of that too. It's not even like you posing in front of it. It's you looking into your own eyes. It's almost like the A-Rod picture of him kissing himself in the mirror.

I guess I was actually doing that as a joke. Kind of, you know, like, I'll just stand there like this because that guy is, too. The picture is also just perfect because it's like kind of like dark lighting, too. It's like, who took that picture? Wait, he's actually him. So you actually went. I went to the same exact headquarters like a week before. And I know exactly where you were doing it.

And it was like a behind the scenes, like, oh, here's someone probably shot on your team. And man, I just loved the photo. It was awesome. Well, yeah. So that's, that was me. Wait, he's actually him. That guy looks familiar. Who is that guy?

Yeah, that was actually one of my first TikToks that I actually ever made. That wasn't just a repost from Instagram or something getting it getting into the talk game all right well i know you got a couple more interviews to do while you're here obviously good morning america we're gonna have to tune into that didn't realize you and connor together robin roberts gonna have to like get in between you guys maybe we'll see michael strahan is he still on that show i think he is yeah i don't know i'm pretty sure he is i think yeah i don't know who the all those shows blend together in my mind. Oh, I know, right?

Like, there's like four of them, and then it's like they're all on the same, but they're not. There's like GMA3, GMA2. So I think we're on GMA3. Gotcha. So the afternoon show. Yeah, it's at 10 a.m. or 11 a.m.

Yeah. How was first take? It was great. Was Stephen A on? No, it was someone else this morning. Okay. Yeah. Stephen A ducking you?

I think he is. He's a Connor guy? He is a Connor guy. He doesn't want to hear me talk about him eating those mitt morning. Okay. Yeah. Is D-Night ducking you? I think he is. Is he a Connor guy? He is a Connor guy. He doesn't want to hear me talk about him hitting those mitts. Oh, man. That was a tough video. That was slow motion. What did he do?

It was his mitt hitting video. Remember his boxing video? He was throwing like loopy like. Oh, he was? He was throwing like loopy? Yeah. Oh. Like his uppercut was like way.

I know. I actually, that was one thing that I rehearsed when I was in the green room. I was like, should I bring up the. I was waiting. I was waiting the green room. I was like, should I bring up the, I was waiting. I was waiting to bring up the, this meme. Also one more thing before we get you out of here. Were you intimidated when you saw Connor knock at the heat mascot? I was not, but yeah, that was, that was good.

I actually talked about that on first take this morning. You know, and the funny thing is I love, I just, I have no ego when it comes to this sport. Obviously, they showed it, and I made sure I brought up, obviously, he was promoting the title. The title spray, right? I said title like six times. Because I don't care. I want the guy to make money. Keep on making money. He's got more than all of us, but

keep on making it. So it was a good, maybe it was a publicity stunt. Did the guy actually go to the ER? We don't know. Either way, we're talking about it. He only got Tylenol at the ER, too. You know I like to put out kind of propaganda for Conor. So I said, listen, if Bernie the mascot can't take those shots,

what makes you think Michael Chandler can? Oh, that's so crazy. What do you think about that? At least he admitted it. I admit it. That's true. Bernie the mascot, he had a helmet on, and he couldn't take those shots. That was like six inches of foam. That's what I'm saying. That's true. I admit it. That's true. Bernie the mascot, he had a helmet on, and he couldn't take those shots. That was like six inches of foam.

That's what I'm saying. You're right. What, that ground and pound shot? The ground and pound shot was good. It was like vintage Conor. First knockout since Cowboy. Dude, you're right. He's back.

He's back. He's back, baby. You better watch out. My God, he's taking it. Yeah, you can't watch that. I can't believe they made him watch it. He doesn't like to see his opponent win. You don't like to see the win.

Yeah, I know. See, Connor called in and was like, hey, get in this guy's head. Show him my last win. The other night at the Heat game. To sue Miser Morale. Yeah. To the jumpsuit and everything.

I know. All right, Michael Chandler, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, guys. I appreciate y'all. All right, thank you to Michael Chandler for joining the show. What a class act. Now, before we get into this interview with Megan Anderson, I want to tell everyone about Factor. It's summer. You might be looking for wholesome, convenient meals for sunny, active days, right? Factor's ready to eat meal kit can help fuel you up fast with flavorful

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talking Extraction 2, which is out now on Netflix. Welcome back to the Spin and Backfist MMA show. It is Robbie Fox, Jack Mack, and Big Ev, and we are here with Megan Anderson, head of the premiere of Extraction 2. Hello. MMA fans might be like, wait, I remember her from MMA. What are you talking about, movie premiere? You're in the new Chris Hemsworth movie coming out on Netflix.

The first one was awesome, Extraction. An awesome just like action movie, kind of a throwback action movie to like what people love about just pure action. Now the second one, we haven't seen it yet because it's not out yet. We have a co-worker that got a screener and he has been hyping it up all month. So I haven't seen it either. Oh, you haven't even seen the final cut? Oh, wow.

Unreal. Our co-worker that saw it, Ken Jack, he does a movie podcast for Barstool. When he saw it, he was actually told he was like the first person outside of the crew to see it. Oh, wow. Unreal. Our co-worker that saw it, Ken Jack, he does a movie podcast for Barstool. When he saw it, he was actually told he was, like, the first person outside of the crew to see it. Oh, wow. When did he watch it? Like, a month ago. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Like, I don't know. Like, obviously, I know my parts. Yeah. But I have, like, a vague idea of, like, what it's going to look like. Because, obviously, being being there i've read the scripts all that kind of stuff but um like one of my good friends who is a double was able to see a um like a screening when they were doing reshoots like a rough screening of reshoots earlier this year and he was like it looks really good and then obviously they've you know they're i think they've done spain

germany prague for like um premieres so far and like they're coming to new york and um the like the the one in prague because we filmed there we filmed it prague in the czech republic and vienna and austria and like all of the like the assistants and the crew and all that kind of stuff that we're working at like messages they're like oh assistants and the crew and all that kind of stuff that we're working at like messages they're like oh my god it's amazing like it's just so action packed like that is like the theme is like it's just a ball to the ball action pretty much I love that which I'm like not mad how do you get involved in it in the first place so crazy story um they messaged me on Instagram wow like so we were their film

was originally supposed to be filmed in australia and so they i think sam hargrave who was the director had just flown to australia and um they were thinking like hey like why don't we get in you know bring bring in, bring a woman in, like a kind of fight, be in some of the big fight scenes type deal. And they're in Australia, so obviously my name popped up. So someone way down the line on the stunt team Instagram messaged me. I thought it was fake. I was going to say.

Yeah. It's like a bot. It's one of those bots. You want to be in the new Chris Hemsworth movie? Who says that? Yeah, sure. So I thought it was fake. And I didn't respond for like two weeks.

But for some reason, I kept thinking about it. I was like, you know what? I'm just going to reply. If it doesn't end up working out, don't lose any sleep. If it works out i'm like this kind of a cool thing if it's legit so scrolled through two weeks of like other messages found it replied back to them and then i you know gave them my email talked to like you know somebody a little higher on the stunt team and then the next thing i know i'm on a zoom call

with sam the director i was like oh so this is like legit legit like this is real you're getting cast yeah um and then like obviously went back and forth and uh at the time sydney in australia where they were going to shoot it um they were like in and out of lockdown like Like it was a nightmare. Nobody could get in the country still. So they ended up moving it to Prague in the Czech Republic. And I went out there like end of September of 2021. And then it came back mid-December,

Christmas and New Year's here. Went back over there 3rd of January to like the 4th of April and was there the whole time that's crazy so now obviously as you're doing the fight scene and stuff are they like leaning on you as the pro fighter to like with the choreography or like teach the actors like this is how so punch actually look or like this type of move like how much are they leaning on you for that kind of stuff not a lot like they utilize a lot of the you know my fighting style in the choreography,

but fighting and film fighting is so different. Obviously, when you're fighting, everything's tight. You don't want to have any space to get counted, whereas film fighting, I'm throwing a hook from my fucking... It's making it look good for camera. You almost need to telegraph so the audience can see things coming far apart like yeah not super like there is no way that you can like hit them i mean obviously you don't want to do a mcgregor heat mascot you gotta pull your punches dude bro like i seen that and i was like in my head i was trying to like rationalize it

because i'm like this has got to be fake right like they this is obviously like pre-set up but i'm like why is he hitting this mascot so fucking hard the second shot was i'm a little i'm a little woke to it though i think i think the mascot was in on it no like in terms of the hospital it was they were promoting something because he had Like in terms of the hospital stuff? They were promoting something because he had something in his hands. The spray. Yeah, it's McGregor's spray. Oh, it's the title? Yeah. And then I think I wouldn't be surprised if they were like, alright, we'll

send the mascot to the hospital, quote unquote. And I think all the mascots. Dude, everyone's picked it up. Yeah, it's massive. Like what is going on? I guess the only thing the guy got in the hospital was just some Tylenol. Tylenol, yeah. Tylenol sent them home. So that's also like.

They just had that at home. Or even they were in the heat arena. I'm sure they had Tylenol there. But if you're the mascot, you get punched by McGregor, it is a cooler story to say McGregor sent me Tylenol. My mind would go straight to dollar signs true cha-ching

cha-ching it's like the the photographer who's yes Devante Adams yes like he pushed

oh I remember that it's like back in September yeah against the Chiefs yes he's like oh whiplash oh my neck yeah it's the soprano scene

any given Friday they are, no, any given Sunday, they do that too. Yes, yeah. He's like, push him down. And he's like, you get that? You get that?

So as far as pulling punches, though, like, is that just a matter of you're so far away from each other that, like, there's no opportunity to hit each other? Or was that a thing you had to actually watch for? A bit of both.

Like, it just depends on, the camera like that is it is it for you know for the first or second team um because like one's like more close up one's more like widescreen um like angles whether you're over like his shoulder over my shoulder over you know different angles so it just depends and like they might like get you to like mix up the punch or the angle, like just depending on the camera and what they're looking for. So yeah, like sometimes it's like, for the most part, we're not super close and like, but I mean, anything could happen.

They could like take that one step in. Like they're right there. But I think that's like, the difference with me is like i know how to range control so i was able to kind of like make sure to manage that i can't let you get close yeah like and and if i seen like you know the the the other actor who i was in a scene with if i seen him kind of like inching a little too close like i'll like still wing my punch wide like like, like make it look good and stuff like that. But I'll, I'll kind of bring it in close.

So it's like the chances of him, me like accidentally hitting him is like removed. Were the other actors you were with, did they have kind of a fear when they were assigned with you? Kind of just out of, I mean, it would be a false sense of not feeling secure. The capability. i feel yeah

that's yeah like if you're with an average stunt person i don't know if they're throwing punches like with the ability to actually just put you out cold i mean i feel like a lot a lot of the stunt guys like they former fighters maybe not for fighters but they train oh yeah for sure train like do jiu-jitsu that makes sense boxing that kind of stuff, they're very, very good. And their ability to sell, that is top tier. But yeah, I don't know. I didn't really talk to Adam about that because he was the guy that I did my fight scene with.

He's one of the male leads, Adam Bessa. And one of the things that we spoke about before going into this fight scene was like we wanted it to like be look real because like sometimes you know how like you you watch fight movies and it's not realistic yeah it's like they're doing a dance yeah and it's like i mean as much as i love like john wick and all that kind of stuff having one guy like fighting a million people and like not really getting injured. I mean, like realistically,

that's probably not going to happen. But I mean, love the movies. So one thing that we wanted to do is like we wanted to be ugly. We wanted it to look like an actual fucking fight. And so like, I hope, fingers crossed, from what I hear, and I hope when I watch it,

like we brought that and it's portrayed across on the screen. Well, that's Ken Jack did confirm. He's like, your fight scene was sick. His staircase scene he mentioned, he's like, very awesome. You'll have to check it out. You'll have to check it out. June 6th, 8th, on Netflix.

Premiere in New York is tonight as well. Right before we started recording, you said you're very nervous. Are you nervous for just watching the movie? Are you nervous about the red carpet and the interviews? Are you nervous about how people are going to perceive the movie? Where are the nerves from? Kind of like a bit of like, yes, all of the above. Obviously, red carpet, like this isn't like a regular red carpet.

This is like a black tie red carpet, like floor length dress. I'm like, I have to like, firstly, a finding a dress long enough for me, like a nightmare. And then I found a dress long enough, but it's so long that I have to kick the dress out with my shoes.

So I don't trip over it. I'm like, do you need one of us to be like the guy with the train? Too kind. But, so there's that. And like and like you know obviously a lot of lights cameras all that kind of stuff which i mean i'm okay with but i'm also like i'm an introverted person at heart and so i don't like a lot of like attention because i'm like uh like i just want to like be at home watching tv you want to you want to just watch the premiere on netflix big facts but um there's that but also like the reception of like i don't like i'm

nervous because i'm like i hope people like it like i know i'm gonna like it's like it's a big achievement all that kind of stuff but it was it's more of like if people like people hating on it i'm like if people but then i think about like if people are gonna hate on me for my performance in this movie whatever it's the first time i've ever fucking acted in my life i'm like and if you are like hating on somebody who's doing this for the first time you're just a fucking loser like respectfully but also or jealous that you're in like this huge blockbuster movie yeah Yeah, but I don't know. I'm just, we, everyone, it's not just myself, but like everyone, the whole team, stunt team, crew,

like it was such a phenomenal experience and we put so much like soul and heart and like dedication into like this movie um from start to finish and i think just wanting that final product to look amazing yeah that's kind of like that's that's kind of like the whole crux of like the nervousness it's like just wanting it to come out and everyone enjoying it i see just for context like for i just go back to like for like a fight scene, like how long from beginning to end does that take? At least for you. And you're like,

like how long are you on set? Is it multiple days? Like one day for one, for one scene or multiple days for one single scene? Or like how long does it take? Yeah. Say for like one fight scene. Yeah.

It's like multiple. So mine, it was multiple days. So this first unit, second unit. So first unit is like main director um close it's all like kind of like waist up type shots and then second unit is more like wide like full body different angles type thing and um so i probably did about for my like three to four full days um that's with like hair makeup costume getting on set and like it's so crazy

because like you rehearse this fight scene beforehand right and you go through it you go through it go through it so you know it and then it's so amazing how they break it up into like these small little pieces like you don't ever just do like obviously you have your oners which like chris has talked about the super long one this one right like 20 minutes yeah which i didn't get to see that being filmed but i was like damn oh that's like i i have i had my own um that you may or may not see in the movie. But for the fight scene, we didn't have a one-up, but you were doing maybe five seconds of the fight at a time. Oh, that's like...

And you tape, you do multiple takes of that particular segment, and then they're like, okay, cut, we're going to go to the next part. Did you like that? Did it throw off the way you learned it so it was um like i was prepared for it because like obviously i talked and then kind of like let me know like the other actors and stuff like that but preparing for it and like having it happen it's so different because like you have to keep that intensity the whole fucking day and um when you i'd like doing snippet to snippet but like that one snippet you might do that like five takes yeah until like they get the exact fucking like take that they want how

draining are those days it's it's exhausting oh is it like comparing it to some of your hardest training sessions what it was it a similar feeling at the end or? It's more of like the longevity. Gotcha. Because like I'm like training, right? Hard training session, preparing for a fight, like an hour, you know, an hour of drilling and then you've got five, five minute rounds. I mean, it's tough.

Like you're cutting weight, all that kind of stuff. It's just different though. Because like you're doing this all day and like you're throwing punches looking like you're throwing them with 100 but you're not landing on anything like you are having to keep that up intensity and like there's like this there's this like one part of our fight of our fight scene which i can't say too much. No spoilers. Yeah. No spoilers. Yeah. Like we're kind of like Adam and I are like, like nose to nose, like kind of like in each other's faces and like that, um,

that raw aggression of like your will against somebody else's in like a controlled environment. That's like, like having that intensity, like for multiple takes all day. Like it gets tiring. Having like I'm going to kill you intensity or you're going to kill me intensity. Because it's like essentially we're trying to kill each other.

Like so it's the intensity of that. It's like it gets exhausting. And like a lot of people don't like realize like it's taxing. And I mean you don't have like have official lunch breaks or this break. You eat in between takes. I see those schedules of actors, and I think to myself, oh my God. Because they'll be on set for 12, 14, 16 hours in a day. And I just imagine how tired I would even be if I had to do that once,

let alone a whole movie. McGregor said about Roadhouse to me said acting made everything else feel easy oh yeah it's so different yeah like 100% and I'm sure like he he probably had a lot more like longer days like because he has such a prominent role in the film but um it's just like that that's why there's like a schedule in place that like after X amount of hours or days in a row, like you have like it's like on, you know, the guild or something. Like they make you have take a break. It's like the union thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Was it? Yes. Screen Actors Guild. Yeah. you have to like take it's like under the union thing yeah yeah sag was it sad yes screen actors guild yeah um it's like compulsory like to make sure that because we were doing like a lot of like long long days and like some some of it it's like light dependent so when we're in vienna it was light dependent so like when the sun set we couldn't film anymore but when we were doing the fight scenes it's like indoors so we went as long as we needed to to get the shots that we needed to that day that's crazy is this having to be so intense you're just flipping the switch on and off on and off all day long

is this something that you want to pursue now in the future acting or even like i don't know if you've ever considered pro wrestling but i figure like choreography in terms of stunt stunts and stuff could lend itself to that yeah i mean i always like i always thought like if i like i i would transition to to wwe yeah because i love it i have you know been a big fan of it my whole life randy orton oh yeah he's my favorite too he's like he's my the the goat right no big backs uh but no he he he you know and a lot of the women like uh uh beth phoenix like inspired me and particularly like obviously i didn't grow up, you know, normally like other people being six foot tall. Yep. So, like, having strong women like that, you know, be able to kind of shake it.

Like, Rhea Ripley is now. Yeah, she's crushing it. The biggest girl crushing her. She's, like, honestly, like, one of the best in the company right now. Right. And the fact that she's Australian, too. Fucking love it. Yep.

But, you know, I thought, like, I would want to transition over. But, like, it is such a physical sport. I'm like, I don't know if my back could take it. Yep. But, you know, I thought, like, I would want to transition over. But, like, it is such a physical sport. I'm like, I don't know if my back could take it. It's crazy. Randy Orton is currently, like, inactive because he's got back injuries from the RKO. Yeah. Well, I mean, he had a long career. Yeah.

I mean, 20 years of doing the RKO, throwing yourselves on your back, you know, over and over, 300 nights a year. This 300 nights a year thing is that schedule is just insane yeah it almost is very it's comparable kind of to the the movies oh yeah because you're going but there's more travel at least you got to drive yourself just traveling like for for work now like people don't understand like when you travel like that the time zone changes screw you over yes so much like your body just gets so exhausted and like you might not do anything but like constantly going back like going forward an hour going back two hours like forward an hour like it it screws up your body so much that like add on like going out there and like wrestling being on for the crowd

like a whole and being on yeah exactly it's like that shit's fucking exhausting i'm like maybe stick to the movies like i could look like i'm getting beat up but i'm not actually getting beat up you know what i mean so i'm not mad at it no i mean that would be if you if you could stick to the movies that would be the ideal route i think most wrestlers want to transition to the movies eventually right yeah it's like you just skipped a path finding the balance yeah like in between but no it was a it was a great experience and when you think about that like not a lot of like mma fighters have been in films so it's true cool to be able to be one of the you know the few that have yeah you still like watching mma still like yeah well i mean i watch

cover it obviously yeah um yeah i do a lot of the tape study um watch the fights when i can i would say like i will say because i do so much tape study now that I don't watch as much anymore. Because, like, during the week, that's all I'm doing as well. It's like, it gets to the weekend. You don't watch live as much, you're saying? Yeah. I don't watch, like, if there's certain fighters on the card that I'm really, like, you know, interested in or I'm interested in that particular fight, like, I'll watch it. And, you know, obviously watch the pay-per-views and stuff like that but um sometimes it's like it's

finding that balance of like sometimes you just don't want to watch fights because that's all you do yeah like sometimes you just need a break and like when you've got to like do it for work as well it's so different because i'm like it's not just fun anymore it's kind of homework yeah because i'm like when i watch fights i'm like i'm looking at styles fighters um breaking down like the things that they do well the things that they don't do well the things that you know that they are susceptible to like you know say he's heavy on the lead leg you know this is what's going to be great for him or like you know and then watching his opponent you know against different fighters and how their styles like it's like the depth that you go into um is so different than when you're just like casually watching yeah you're not watching to enjoy a fight yeah yeah like

sometimes like i will but um yeah it's just sometimes you just need that break yeah that makes sense is it like the izzy's and the australian fighters of the world that can break you out of that almost and like can you still get like emotional for them at least oh yeah um it's just like we're such a small contingency yeah um in in the you know the ufc and in the the in general, like no matter what promotion, like there's not a lot of us. Um, so seeing, you know, the Australians and the Kiwis succeed is always really great. And I mean, like I I'm cool with the, with the guys from city kickboxing. I've interviewed them a couple of times. We fought on cards together. So it's

always cool to see how everyone bands together from that region. It seems like. Yeah. And like, I mean, fuck, I fought on the same card as like Alex back in Australia before we both, you know,

moved to the, you know, moved our careers to the U S and like, I mean, I remember watching, going and watching him when he first won the rochambeau like title back in 2013 wow like so i've been following these guys for so long so it's like all the way to now like considered like pound for pound number one by a lot of people dude he is

firstly a cardio fucking machine yeah i'm very jealous i'm like that man does not know how to slow down but um he's just seeing the trajectory that he's kind of gone because like we fought on ufc 232 together he fought chad bendos and knocked him out and everyone was counting him out it's like oh it's chad chad's got power. I mean, don't get me wrong. Chad's phenomenal fighter. Legend, yeah. But I'm like,

no. I was like, you guys don't realize how fucking legit Alex is. And from then, and I remember when he first fought Max, also a huge fan of Max. And the only time I will ever go against Max

is when he fights Alex. Yeah. But like when he first fought Max, everyone was just like, oh, who the hell is this guy? He doesn't deserve a title shot. I'm like, firstly, he's on an insane fucking win streak and his only loss was at welterweight.

Yeah. So firstly, no, but then like nobody really knew who he was and for so long he was just hated for absolutely no reason because like if you meet alex he is one of the most genuine down-to-earth nicest you know person you will ever meet and he cares a lot he's hard working and so to to see him finally get the respect and the recognition and the support um is like awesome to see and and not just him like all the guys you know israel dan um you know carlos is coming up through the heavyweight rankings like it's just seeing seeing them all like succeed and and succeed well and gracefully and get that support, I mean, you've got to be happy.

Absolutely. It's well-deserved, long overdue, yeah. That's right. MMA's in a great spot. Yeah. Like Whitaker, there's a lot of guys. Yeah. Top Kai.

That was, I hated that fight too. Just having to see two guys go against each other. Well, this was funny. So Izzy and Rob, they fought the second time while uh we were filming and so i actually talked to chris about it like he's a big fan right no no i don't think you realize how big of a fight fan chris is really awesome he loves fighting i mean he he can box himself yeah like he's got some videos on instagram sometimes you could tell he like does boxing training yeah and like he was just like man i don't know like do you think is he's gonna i was gonna beat him again like you know but rob rob's

like legit he's my guy he is biggest fan like talks you know, big fan of McGregor and all that kind of stuff. So, uh, yeah, that was, that was kind of really crazy for me because like the first time I met Chris was at my fight, like in, uh, UFC 243 in Melbourne.

He was there. He goes to the Australia events when, when he can. Yeah. And I met him out the back and he's one of my favorite actors. I was like, Hey, can I have a picture?

I took a picture, wished. I was like, Hey hey hope you have a great night it was 10am in the morning my manager at the time Tim like immediately with an earshot he's like really morning he's like smooth and you nailed that one

but now you're in a movie with him to them being in Vienna Austria standing there in costume chatting about fights i'm like what is my life yeah no that's that's really awesome you're in like full military gear guns and everything yeah that's awesome did that like uh that restrict you in the fight scene surprisingly no huh like the so the the shoulder pads on that thing they're like velcroed on so like i had like a lot of movement but i felt like a fucking unit yeah because i was like i felt like i had like these massive i'm like i need

somebody's gonna like open the door yeah you're gonna go through like sideways i'm like i don't know if i'm gonna be able to make it through this door like it it makes you feel so cool because like you've got like the the chest plate on the shoulder pads on um you've got like your your like regular belts with the boots with the the harness for that for the pistol and then i'm carrying around a fucking saga 12 like a huge gun that's real yeah oh really just for shooting blanks i guess shooting blanks i i it's a saga 12 fully automatic shotgun oh my god and I got like here in the states you can only do semi

which is single shot oh it was fully wow but I was an automatic shotgun well semi like fully

you could only in America have like military yeah fully would be just like it's insane it it just shoots much much faster

that's crazy sounds like some Call of Duty shit it was shoots much much faster that's crazy it sounds like some call of duty shit it was so fun did it feel like you were in a call of duty game i really did that's awesome oh my god oh my god they should give you an extraction skin in call of duty that would be cool because like my mart like the mask that i have on like that i you know that they they gave me that picture and i posted it last week like dude i look like bane yeah i was like nobody knew who i was until i put on the mask well we're excited for the movie comes out on friday on netflix if you're watching this friday is june 16th so make sure to look out for that on netflix extraction 2 super long take in the movie a warner as the people in the business call it. Yeah, a lot of action, a lot of helicopter scenes.

Love that. Which I know some clips of that have been put out in the preview. Just a lot of ass-kicking. Dude, it's going to be wild. It sounds like a movie that everyone's going to need to watch this weekend when it comes out because it's on Netflix, so you've got no excuse. There you go. It's free. Everyone's going to need to watch this weekend when it comes out because it's on Netflix. So you got no excuse. There you go. All right.

Thank you to everyone for tuning in today. We will be back on Sunday with a recap of The Flash. So if you want to check that out, make sure to come back this weekend. We'll see you then.