My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 287 - THE FLASH RECAP/REVIEW WITH CLEM!

Episode Date: June 18, 2023

Robbie and Clem recap and review the most hyped up superhero movie of all time, ‘The Flash’ - discussing whether or not it lived up to that hype, the Ezra Miller controversy, the wild cameos that they pulled off in this film, where DC goes from here, and more! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! #THEFLASH ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome back to My Mom's Basement presented by 3C and Barstool Sports. I am your host, Robbie Fox, and with me is my co-host, Clem. Not another Robbie Fox from a different multiverse. It's not like two of us on this one, although we are recapping The Flash, which does feature two barry's two ezra miller's in it it was very hyped up clem this was i want to say the most hyped up superhero movie of all time people were saying it's the greatest superhero movie of all time

you're going to forget everything ezra miller ever did that ever got him in trouble with the law and everything like that and it's just a fun ride i think james scum is even part of the crusade it's one of the best superhero movies think James Gunn is even part of the crew saying it's one of the best superhero movies ever made. It wasn't that. I don't think it was that. I think we could both be on the same page right away and agree it wasn't that.

But I got to say, it was pretty damn good. I really enjoyed myself at the theater yesterday. Clem, how are we doing? What'd you think? We're doing good. The word I would use is fun. I thought it was a fun movie, which is exactly what you at least used to want.

It was from superhero movies. It's a fun movie. And then it's evolved into this whole other genre and it has to be the greatest ever, or it's the worst ever. And there's not a lot of in between. Hey, there's a reason why comic books got man in the Simpsons, you know, worst episode ever. Like that's just kind of the reputation that we have here, the nerds in the basement. But in a weird way, I think all that hype

and then the backlash to the hype once the review started coming out had me in the perfect mindset to watch this movie, where I wasn't going in too high, I wasn't going in too low. I said, let's just see what they're going to throw at us. And all in all, I left the movie theater happy. I left with some real legitimate takes on the future of the franchise and dc the dcu in general but i was i was i didn't feel like i got ripped off from my 10 or 15 whatever it is for movie ticket these days now i do have to ask i saw a tweet from

you did you have a weird movie theater experience for this one yes very weird one so last uh our last pod couple weeks ago you went to spider-verse you had a bunch of little ruffians come in a bunch of teenagers come kind of uh act all cooler than school to you know mess with you i had a woman come in my theater she gets in probably about i mean literally a minute into the movie and she goes excuse me is this the movie did the movie start i go yeah but it just started you're good because she goes is this the previews no no movie's good okay my movie theater has maybe 10 people with it maybe it's the first movie of the day it's 11 30 this is dad life i went to see the movie at 11 30 kids went at 11 55

she goes okay no one see elemental by the way they loved it uh she then looks at this movie theater with roughly 490 empty seats proceeds to sit right behind me and then puts her feet up on my seat and i'm just like what a move i just got alfred and i said like what do you do in that situation when someone just completely and utterly dominates you like that? So I did what any, let's be honest, like superhero comic book nerd would do. I avoided confrontation at all costs. What I did is I acted like I was going to the bathroom. I took my popcorn, took my drink, took my phone, walked as if I was leaving the theater, maybe go to the bathroom.

Watch the movie from the little like corridor for about a minute. So it didn't seem like I was, you know, you know, like I was gone. Like I said, we actually left. And then I went to a seat in the front half of the movie theater, kind of on the side. She probably didn't even know I even came back in because listen, Rob, if someone does that to you, like there's something wrong with them. I'm sorry.

There's something wrong with that lady. And I didn't want to get into a thing. I had to worry about Ezra Miller on the screen. I don't know what that guy, I don't know what the woman behind me is going to do. So I wanted no part of that woman. I said, that is some true super villain shit. Yeah. I would probably do something very similar.

I don't think I would do the waiting in the corridor for a couple minutes. I think I would just get up and go to a new seat right away, but I respect the move. I would avoid confrontation as well. Yeah. And the thing was, I was like, if she has it out for me for some reason, she'll just come right there. At this point, I was like, I got to get this movie. And we were running late with the basement.

It's supposed to be the best superhero movie of all time. We got to get this thing watched. I don't want to have to look over my shoulder the whole time. So the Basement Boys are on one of these days, man. I don know what it is but we are we're having some experiences in the theater i love to think that she just thought you walked out as well she's like that guy must have fucking hated the movie two minutes in walked out like oh my god yeah it's just like this movie just started when they've already lost one person like i'm sure that's not the first person to walk out of a dc movie early right so no, my theater experience was great though.

I'm down in Tom's river. I'm at my mom's for the weekend and down at Tom's river. No disrespect to Tom's river. It's an old people community pretty much. So at the theater, it was me, my girlfriend and about, I don't know, maybe a dozen, two dozen old people. So it was great. It was just like everyone watching the superhero movie.

It was maybe the loudest superhero movie I've ever seen i don't know it was our theater it was the movie's mix i had like a migraine by the time the movie was over and i was looking around thinking like they're gonna cause one of these old people to die in this movie theater now do you think maybe they're doing that knowing these people may have hearing aids in so they may have to boost it up a little bit? Right? Yeah. They juice it. It's like they go all the way to the 100% where it's like red. They don't keep it in like the orange area of the volume.

They go all the way 100% and just blast it up for, you know, these old coots here. No offense to the old coots listening. No, no, no offense at all. Now, before we get into like the plot of this movie, let's talk about the hype for a second. Again, this was the most hyped up superhero movie I can recall. Tom Cruise gave a fucking pull quote for this movie. He was like, this is what filmmaking should be. I think this is a very good superhero movie, but it's the third best one that came out in the last two months.

I would put Guardians 3 above it. I would put Across the Spider-Verse above it. I think I'll go back to those and re-watch them i know i'll go back to them and re-watch them more than i'll go back to this and re-watch it again i'm not shitting on the movie it's very good very very very good movie and considering everything they went through production wise ezra miller wise it's a miracle that this is a good movie but do you think the people james gunn included that were hyping it up as like the greatest superhero movie ever, was that all just to get eyes on this and to make us go see The Flash?

Or did any of them actually believe that? I think it was all the hype. I think – now, what was it, like production? Who was the production designer? Who was the one that said, Ezra Miller, you're a forget, he's a bad dude, basically? I think it was like the production designer where it's like listen no disrespect to production designers you don't get to make that statement yeah and i listen i don't know what production designers do i i don't know i feel like they design the production you know

they probably have the kind of mind where it's like how can we really get like that that that stopped in your tracks when you heard that the first time. Oh, shit. Like, you forget this guy was a real deal supervillain in real life. Did not work. But I think it was all part of the hype machine. Our boy, heavy spoilers to the best. They couldn't have their star promote the movie because he's a fucking bad dude.

So they had to basically pull out all the stops. And when you're Warner and you have this war chest of resources and whatever, you're gonna just fucking let it all just fly, right? So you throw Tom Cruise in there, who's probably the most beloved person in the movie industry these days after Top Gun, right? So you're like, Tom Cruise?

Forget some of the stuff Tom Cruise has been associated with. I was gonna say, he kind of is, considering he's associated with what he's associated with, and people are still like, Cruise is the fucking man, though. Apparently, they're pursuing him for a role in the future DCU. They want Tom Cruise in James Gunn's DCU.

Ooh, yeah, that would be good, because he's never been in Marvel, right? So that would be kind of a clean... That's as clean as you're going to get, where you're not like, wait, he's from this movie. James Gunn, it's like, he's part of the machine now right so it is what it is so when he does it uh but again the in a sick way when the reviews start coming out bad it actually made me feel like all right but this is something that this movie if it's on my tv i don't know i'll try to figure out like i i think we're at the point where i'm gonna really not be watching a lot of like network tv and then a movie is on but if

by some chance that happens i won't turn it off or look away i'll be like oh i'll sit down and watch it but like you said it is a tough look third best superhero movie of the last three but i have not only do i have a spin zone for DC, I even have the title for this YouTube if you want to get like fancy with it. Okay, let's hear it. The Flash is the best DC movie of 2023. Is that good? No lies.

All right, now did not see Shazam 2. Don't care about Shazam 2. My boy Bob says fuck Shazam altogether. So based on that knowledge, I ipso facto, using the transitive properties, I'm going to just throw a bunch of other fucking weird terms out there, The Flash is the best because there was no others, right? No, I don't

think so. And if they were, they were made in a movie, in which case it might not be the best because DC animated stuff is pretty damn good. Alright. Best Flash movie of 2023. I like that and it's exactly what i expected in that i watched it i did not forget everything ezra miller ever did i thought ezra gave a good performance in this movie obviously playing the lead and the co-lead like he was good and i i did

not like ezra as barry in Justice League or any of his prior performances. I didn't like, this was my favorite. I thought it got a little more matured in the, the, throughout the runtime. It's my absolute honor and privilege to say that Michael Keaton's Batman was everything I wanted it to be.

And more, this was what I was going into the movie, like looking for. When you saw the movie, you saw it before me. The only thing I wanted to know from you, I like did Keaton rock and you were like big time he rocked like we'll get into it with his scene and everything but the direction they chose to introduce him I loved like they get him a little nuts and then they bring in the Batman you know

and love and everything if this movie's on tv i will absolutely flip it on in hopes that michael keaton's introduction will you know be five minutes away i when you because you asked you said hey i you know i got my screening and i got my tickets to flash i was like oh i just left and that was your first question and i'm just like man i'm so happy and that was like when you asked that i was like i'm so excited for robbie see Keaton, but also to see the movie. Because I think, and I, based on a lot of the responses we've gotten so far to the tweets, a lot of people are in the same boat. Everyone enjoyed the hell out of it. Everyone loved Keaton.

Everyone, I think, liked Ezra Miller at the very least. But yeah, it was a win. It was a win for DC, which is so rare. And at the same point, it feels like they have to blow everything up when it's all said and done. And I think as we'll get to in our review, I think in a weird way, this was the perfect movie to kind of just like smash reset. But I saw there's a Blue Beetle coming out. That was one of my previews. Yeah.

And James Gunn says that Blue Beetle is the first character in his DCU. How about that? So like this movie's Blue Beetle or another Blue Beetle? This movie's Blue Beetle, but this movie isn't the first movie in the DCU. That's Superman, but this character is the first character in the DCU. It's fucking a little confusing, James Gunn, if we're being honest. But I think that means James Gunn really likes the Blue Beetle movie

and that it's probably very disconnected and standalone in terms of DCEU stuff. But I don't know. Every time I watch the trailer, I'm not sold on it. Clem, I'm not sold on it. I saw the preview and I'm just like, let's just wipe this one off the map. I don't like they killed super girl, right? Or which one was it? Super girl or bat girl that they just killed on the Batgirl yeah like just kill this one too and let's just start for us with Jimmy Gunn and however many

years it's going to take to get this shit rolling because then granted this is coming from a non DC person I'm sure DC fans are like no I want to see my beloved Blue Beetle on the big screen people do love them yeah yeah I didn't realize that either but I just saw that and I'm like this we don't need this right now.

What I just watched with this flash, that's exactly the perfect way we can kind of just say. It wrapped up a lot of shit from a lot of years. And there was a lot of convoluted stuff along the way. I mean, I just think of all the universes and stuff. So reset that motherfucker. All right. Let's get into the plot. It opens with Barry going to get a sandwich before work.

He's got his calories low because obviously he's burning calories like Michael Phelps out here. And Alfred calls him. Jeremy Irons. Alfred is awesome. One of my absolute favorite parts of the entire DCEU. Jeremy Irons is just an incredible actor. He was so good in Watchmen. And I loved seeing him.

So he calls Ezra. He's like, we got a bank robbery in Gotham. Batman's on the way. He's like, why couldn't you call Superman? We get a quick flash of like a CGI Superman fixing something. And the robbers are hiding out in a hospital that is like going down due to crossfire. So the Flash has

to go to Gotham. Pretty cool scene where he runs there. Batman shows up on like, I don't know, it wasn't the Batwing. It was like a Bat heli carrier. Drops him in on a motorcycle. He's got the blue cowl and the gray suit, which I've been asking for forever. I loved seeing that. He kicks major ass in the opening scene, too, from the motorcycle to just like flying with his wings and then hitting criminals out of their tanks and whatnot.

Major, major ass-kicking scene. The Flash is a weird scene where he saves a bunch of babies. CGI is wonky right away. Real weird. Puts one of the babies in a microwave. That's going wild on Twitter. They reversed it so it looks like he's just placing the baby in the microwave. And at the end of the scene, Gal Gadot makes a cameo.

Like, they all save the day and wonder woman's in it for maybe 30 seconds but a quick like a justice league's together still working together still doing stuff cool opening scene aside from the weird cgi which is kind of a theme in the movie unfortunately yeah what were they saying like playstation 3 kind of cut scenes and stuff like that which we i okay on the podcast i am very much the person that's like people always complain about cgi my dumb brain is like i look pretty good they were very valid criticism i'm like oh so this is what bad cgi looks like because i you know we saw a lot of it the baby scene that was just weird man i'm sorry that was just weird i

know you're trying to get like all right this hero is the highest of stakes and he has to come through at the highest of times. And maybe it's because I am also watching Ezra Miller, known bad dude. Yeah. These babies. And it just it had my body feeling a lot of weird things. And then at points where it looks like the babies might die. And I'm like, this is even more fucked up than like the Padawan scene. We always laugh

about with star wars right like these are fucking infants in a like a nursery at a newborn hospital so they even have a goddamn uh like uh what's what kind of dog is it it's a service dog and what does it say about me and my girlfriend that we're watching all the babies go down and we're like huh this is a little bit weird and we we see a service dog. We look at each other like, no, not the service dog. And we infamously work at a company that back in the day, there was a very important podcast question asked about how long would you put your kid in a microwave? If you could get, you know,

like $10,000 for every second or something like that. Something weird like that. Yeah. I mean, I kind of want to go back to that and see what the answers were. A couple of those guys have kids now that are answering it. But just, yeah, that was,

that made me feel weird. The CGI made me feel kind of gross, but I will say like having all the, like those heroes come together, you kind of get the glimpse of Superman. All right. I feel like I'm in the DC universe, which was very cool.

Now, is this true? Was this, was this movie supposed to be released in like 2018 is that when this was like i mean it was originally slated to come out even before then but it wasn't like filmed and done before then you know what i'm saying yeah because it's like this movie would have hit if this movie was anywhere near this finished product back then or even 19 even 20 right if you had it done before

the pandemic hit you launched it i mean whenever you would release the movie because it was such a fucked up time with theaters and stuff um but if you launched it then without marvel just completely capitalizing the multiverse uh storyline and saga off the bat and get enough room to kind of give breath from infinity war and end game this movie would have been the perfect spot and yeah it would have been like dc's back that would have been the narrative yeah that would have been the narrative and it's just it's peak dc that it kind of just like came out and it had that and then it has a rough opening sequence here to get it started but things did get better yeah no things get better

throughout the movie i thought the movie like towards the end as it goes on actually improves in quality the cgi doesn't necessarily improve in quality the one part how does it not improve in quality when it's been like five years in the fucking making i saw someone said the whole budget went to keeping ezra out of prison. That really made me laugh. But I think the worst of it was in the weird time Coliseum when they go into the like time speed force zone. And there's all the weird like, again, PS3 animations around them. I saw the director came out and said like, well, the CGI is actually intended to look like that.

A little bit strange because of the way things are distorted when you're in the... No, no, no, no. Please don't say the CGI is actually intended to look bad. Please, let's put that one in the bin. Let's never use that one ever again. Because you're doing the Brave and the Bold. You're doing the next Batman movie. I don't want to hear that. And I was going to say, that's the old

Battle of Winterfell is supposed to be dark because you're not supposed to know what's going on well we're watching a fucking tv show bro so we need to kind of see what's going on because then it means nothing to us i could just turn off the lights in my room and just imagine the fight so don't throw those things at us right now don't throw those things at us so barry talks to swat it down i want to see matumbo that shit boom boom boom barry goes and talks to... Swat it down. I want to see him with Tumbo that shit. Boom! Boom! Boom! Barry goes and talks to Iris outside the courthouse. He's, you know, late for work.

He's getting in trouble and whatnot. Iris is a girl from Zack Snyder's cut of the Justice League, who's kind of his love interest. He saves her in a scene in that. And it's a weird relationship for him to have because he has a crush on her, but she's working for the newspaper and kind of covering his dad's case. So he's like, are you asking me as a friend? Are you asking me as a reporter?

They have a little discussion about it. And then Barry and Bruce Wayne, Ben Affleck, Bruce Wayne, talk about time travel. And they talk about if you could go back and save your parents. I had the ability to go back in the speed force referencing zach snyder's justice league yet again and bruce warns against it he's like even if you could save my parents like my scars are what made me who i am i don't know who i am without those scars barry doesn't listen he goes back in time he realizes if he takes a tomato can off the shelf in the store at least uh no puts it back he's got to put it in here he's

got to take the tomato can he's got to put it in her grocery cart this is a confusing time travel movie guys bear with me he has to take it so the dad doesn't have to run to the store and then he can't be framed for the murder or whatever goes and does it blacks out when he sees a weird creature coliseum type deal and then wakes up in 2013 his mom is alive he finds out it's 2013 from the present day version of himself and they realize after a quick conversation this is the day that they get powers so they try to recreate the event that got him powers really just reverses the power so yes young 2013 barry gets flash powers but old barry that we know i was gonna say that we know and love old barry that we know does not get the powers he loses them the old barry we know and we do not co-sign anything he does no we do not know and love no and so i don't know if this was you

when i saw a young kind of brash barry i go oh this is ezra miller he does a lot he was just such and he's like a young kid he's just an idiot which is i think what ezra miller probably is in real life and i'm just like i hate this fucking guy so that production designer was wrong because I'm thinking about all that stuff this guy did that stupid laugh oh yeah and that is what I don't like about his performance I told you before we even went into this like I don't like him as the Flash in Justice League

that's how he comes off in the whole movie as like a jokey can never take him seriously now in this movie the old Flash at least has to have a conversation with the young Flash where he's like, stop fucking around. We got to mature. We got to grow up a bit. At least you could like redeem him like that.

But then, yeah, young Flash is like you said, it's just Ezra Miller. Yeah. Now, I will say this for Ezra Miller. There were two different people on the screen when it was him, right? He did a good job playing two different roles. And I was like, Oh, that's fucking good.

This guy, if he wasn't a complete dunce could be like someone you could say, I could build a franchise around this guy. Unfortunately, like everything he did, plus the entire direction, James Gunn's going to take it. He's probably going to blow all that shit up.

But I have to say, like, I guess his agent should be happy being like, Hey, at least we have something to show other studios down his agent should be happy being like hey at least we have something to show other studios down the road for be like all this bad shit well here's some stuff because it did feel like you were watching two different people on there which is not always the case when you're playing you know the same character at different timelines

right yeah and that cgi looked perfect never once did i see on the screen like you know the two ezra's and think oh that's clearly green screen or that's a body double like that all looked amazing so that's i think they call it like the invisible cgi that they don't want you to even know their cgi on the scene but that all looked great and then every time we were supposed to know there was cgi it was the weird what was up with the weird warped face it was like guardians when they go through the time zones or whatever but it was even more warped and the teeth were stretching. I didn't like that.

It made me uncomfortable. I made me cry. That's the perfect word for it, Bob. It made me uncomfortable as well. It made me very, there was too much of him eating too, too much of food noises in this movie.

I don't love hearing people chew. It's not one of my pet peeves, but I didn't like hearing Ezra Miller chew for half the runtime. There were a couple of calls out. I don't want to hear that chewing right now. So yeah, I also, my mind was blown.

Um, the dad is the guy, Peter from office space. Yeah. I thought it was, he's in some of the prior DC stuff. I think he's in justice league, but he looks like another actor.

And I had to look up and I'm like, wait a second. That's Peter from off. It looks like another dude. I have to think of the movie that he's from but it was it's driving me crazy right now actor that i thought it was and it's not him because they look exactly like in 2023 when he's playing this role uh but i like that whole um the cans and like how again i was happy though it wasn't like you just change one little thing it's's like, yeah, dude, you're going to fuck everything up.

Everything's going to fuck up. Now, something about this movie, and this is skipping ahead a bit, but there's not like a true villain. Obviously, Zod, obviously the creature, but like they kind of just arise as problems for the Flash. Obviously, the mom gets murdered. The dad gets framed for it. The whole movie is kind of of like let's free the dad let's make him innocent we get no conclusion to who did it to the mom which you know comic fans have plenty of stories i'm sure where they're like this is who did it but like in the context of the movie i thought it was a little bit strange that there's never like a let's find who did this it's just let's free my dad yeah i i was thinking the same thing like quiet suburban town yeah woman murdered

with a fucking kitchen knife in her own you know kitchen it was like and it's like it's a fucking diabolical murder it's not like you know he was trying to uh you know just some heroin addict looking to score some stuff and then got into a fight with his mom. It seemed like it was like, I'm going to murder this bitch. And a beautiful town. Like, the house couldn't have looked nicer. Yeah. You know what?

That's a bit weird. Town, if I had to say what town that looks like, I'd say it kind of looks like Larges Town. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Larges from Brooklyn. A notoriously, you know how murders happen in Brooklyn every year? Do you think Large murdered the Flash's mom? Yeah, I do.

I do, too. I mean, even think about the time, 2013. Large is like 40 in 2013. He's old enough to do it. And he's probably like, I've read some of the stuff he's written in the past. Kind of an uncouth man when it comes down to it. So Large murdered the Flash's mom. So we cracked the case here live on the podcast there you go they go back to brainstorm and barry realizes after talking to a few of young barry's roommates that there's no

meta humans or superheroes out there they don't know about them at least he's like superman no um because zod is coming down i think they know that at this point. That's why they're talking about superheroes and stuff. This is the day that Zod invades in Man of Steel. Michael Shannon Zod. Michael Shannon has come out and said he did not have a fun time filming this movie. He's like, ah, it was brainless entertainment. I have to say, I understand what Michael Shannon's saying too.

He kind of just said, you're the role you played but you're not playing it with anything cool going on around you. You're just going to be like... He doesn't have any cool scenes or monologues in this one yeah he's yeah you cannot wait until this shit gets rebooted and you know any questions he's probably been asked about the snyder verse and the snyder cut and he's just like i play a guy named zod guys like just give me a fucking break i also say i did not love the roommates. And I actually, part of me appreciated they are like, they actually

seem like real people, where sometimes you'll watch these people, the girlfriend is in a bed, she looks like a Hollywood starlet, and it's like, you know, the guy is, the dude who's sleeping on the couch is so fucking cool, even though he's like Brad Pitt, basically, in what's that movie?

True Romance. And just like, you know know there's all these like that actually felt like it could be a bunch of just college friends who were just fucking but it was like i was like i'm with these people there was i think we can agree about 20 minutes too long in the movie oh my god i i would say about 30 minutes too long 30 minutes too long i think we could snip this scene down a little bit. Hey, I appreciate the Eric Stotts or whatever jokes, because it's Back to the Future fan. It is crazy to think how close Michael J. Fox was to not being in that movie.

And by the way, that shit is all real. You can do your research. I'm sure you Google it. It's crazy how much, I guess, they shot the whole movie with him in it, right? Yeah. It's one of those wild what ifs. And I understand a one of those wild. What ifs? But, and I understand a lot of that shit.

I did appreciate that. How they were saying, Hey, this change has now led to this change. And now Eric Stotts is Marty McFly. It is tough with time travel. So you have to explain the rules, make up the rules on the fly and whatever.

But that one just felt like it was going a little long. Yeah. I think I was the only person in my theater to get the Eric Stotts joke, by the way, and it was dead silence. And I just went, huh. It was just my voice in the whole theater.

But yeah, that is the one tough thing about time travel. I was thinking about it with the scene where Michael Keaton kind of has to explain different branches. Like he's the ancient one. Yeah. And it's like every one of these movies has to have that scene. Cause the main character isn't supposed to know about time travel travel but the audience just knows just let's skip past that at

this point let's just assume that someone explained it to him along the way i actually that's why i did like end game where they kind of like no listen these are the rules that's how it is whatever and like just have to gloss past it and there's gonna be people mad that's how you did it there's people mad if you don't do it that way. You're going to feel mad no matter what. So they brainstorm with the roommates. They don't know any of the superheroes that he's talking about. They've heard rumors of Aquaman, I think. But then one of the roommates is like, Batman?

Oh, yeah, I'm Batman. And he's like, wait, you know Batman? She's like, yeah, everyone knows Batman. We don't know who it is, but we know Batman. So he's like, oh, I know who Batman is. They head to Wayne Manor, but it's not the Wayne Manor that they know. It's not the Ben Affleck Wayne Manor. It's the fucking Tim Burton Wayne Manor.

Oh, my God. They walk into the kitchen, and we see a disheveled, long-haired, bearded Bruce Wayne attack them. And as soon as he jumps out, and you don't see his face at first. You just see a ball of hair, essentially. You know, like, oh, this guy's going nuts going nuts here he attacks him beats him up for a bit and then explains to them when he realizes they're not really a threat to him that gotham is super safe he's like safest city in the world they don't really need batman anymore so i'm just chilling here pretty much chilling in the cave you want to watch any uh movies and he has to explain the

multiverse to him he's cooking he's cooking spaghetti so he pours spaghetti in he's like look some strands look like they're together some strands look like they're going haywire and then it's just a hot mess he pours the sauce in and everything again barry eating too much of it but zod invades and they're like listen we need your help zod's coming down superman's not here we need to find superman he's like i'm not really interested in that no thank you he goes back to whatever he was doing the barry's go and use the cave and at first i was like would batman just fucking let him go into the cave all willy nilly like that then i was like yeah it's keaton's batman so actually yes he would he let vicky vale in the cave like that so all right yeah he would let him in the cave immediately

and eventually he says he'll help i i forget what it was but he's watching ezra on one of the cameras and ezra starts asking him some questions and he's like all right fuck it i'm batman he hit him with the hard play and i was happy for your for you and our boy keaton because this is his like, I won scene for breaking bad, right? It's like, yeah,

you're in Gotham into what he wanted Gotham to be. So I'm so happy you got to see that. And then I guess what happens when Batman has nothing left to prove. And you know, Bruce Wayne is done going after the Vicky Vales of the world. It's just get fucking weird and hairy and make spaghetti by yourself. What else do you do? I don't know.

I know it was a little sad seeing that, you know know he's not with vicky and he didn't he didn't get a wife i guess he's just a bachelor still you think he's still fucking he's fucking he's definitely he's fucking yeah now do we think this is the exact batman from is it that universe whatever universe number from the movies i would say yes because of a specific scene in the bat cave where young barry finds the laughing bag yeah yeah the laughing bag that was a great shout if you're if you're a michael keaton batman fan like that was for the diehards that was nice that was when i said man robbie's gonna freak the fuck out when he said that was the was the exact moment. Because that is that cut, right? That is the little thing.

That's the filet mignon of the Batman references. And I got what I wanted in terms of a reference to Alfred no longer being with us. Michael goes, Alfred. They said, you know, oh, you had an Alfred. And they kind of just left it at that. They left it real subtle, which later on they do some things with some deceased people that wasn't so subtle and people are upset about that we'll get to that it's a teaser for later on in the podcast but they take the batwing to russia to break supergirl out they don't know it's supergirl

yet they think it's superman spoilers um but they're like let's break superman free he's being captive held i think it was russia it was snowy yeah siberia yeah it was russia yeah all right they take the bat cave in awesome shot of the bat cave going over the moon again which you know is one of the most iconic shots in all of the the 1989 movie so good and we get to see keaton go full arkham city this is what we saw in a lot of the trailers where he swoops down beats the fuck out of some criminals that are holding Supergirl hostage or captive. And the Elfman theme is just ripping. They rip it a couple of times in the Batcave.

But when he's just messing people up and you got the Danny Elfman theme going, oh, Chills just talking about it. And then when they find Superman, quote unquote Superman, it's actually a very, very weakened Supergirl who's being held in this ball that's preventing any sunlight from getting on her because obviously kryptonians powered by different suns red suns different color they rescue her they get her out as soon as they get

her out they're like cornered and batman's like we just got to try not to die but then supergirl's got her full powers so she fucks everyone up. They go back to the Batcave. This is a cool scene. Kind of reminded me of Flashpoint, which there's a lot of Flashpoint inspiration. But they try to give Barry his powers back through this Ben Franklin kite. It's like a bat kite, essentially. Almost kills him. Does not work. So Supergirl realizes what's going on.

She picks him up. She brings him right into the storm gets him struck by lightning up there the whole way this scene was shot the score during this scene I thought this was one of the stronger scenes in the movie yeah it felt like a moment right definitely and I have to say whenever Supergirl was Supergirling it was like fuck yeah let's rock right now right it was cool yeah it's so hard because we've had a lot of these like super duper beings whether it's her it's captain marvel um and we they have to nerf them in so many of these movies because it's part of a long an epic or whatever it may be or they're like the focal point of the movie and they can't just destroy everyone in this it was like well

just a little spurt of it and she has like an equal nemesis on the other side and zod and it was just like nice just to have someone it's like oh yeah we have a 99 overall that we just wipe the fucking floor with everyone so i love that she could do that and then obviously just i'm gonna go fly up and let this guy get hit by like pure uncut lightning like that shit straight from fucking uh columbia itself you're gonna get the pure uncut to the gut it was like cool seeing she's she's not necessarily like a Zack Snyder hardened goth person but she was a little bit you know not non-trusting of humans pretty much all humans I would say she's you know what and like I identify with her it was basically I think after like the first year the pandemic I think everyone felt like that reading some of the

shit they were reading on social media they're like i don't really know if the virus is the bad guy anymore i'm starting to think humans are the bad guys based on all the shit i've been seeing on my timeline so i feel like an alien like a kryptonian and i i was happy that i was like oh she just get this bitch in the sun she's ready to cook right now i'm happy i had that one figured out even though i haven't been a huge dc. I remember my Kryptonian biology lessons from the past. So 2013 Barry makes a suit out of a Keaton bat suit. We saw this. It looked weird in pictures.

It's kind of played to look weird in the movie. Weird of them to put out so many pictures as if that's just kind of like, it would be like if they put out Fat Thor before end game came out, I feel like, uh, but it's played for jokes. I did laugh a lot in this scene where it's kind of a dramatic, you know, showing every spray painting thing.

And then they cut to him, like just chopping the ears off and you hear the knife going and everything. I thought that was a funny cut, but they go to the desert to confront Zod because in Matt, have you seen man of steel? Uh, I think I see, I didn't, I saw man of steel uh i think i see i didn't i saw parts of it i didn't see the whole thing so he wants to like come to earth terraform the

earth get superman's blood redo krypton as the earth and in this scene in man of steel superman confronts him so he is brought superman obviously superman's not here so here he just completely kills the guy who is eventually going to be Martian Manhunter. And he starts the war in the desert. Man of Steel, he brings it to Metropolis, makes about 1,000 9-11s. What a ridiculous choice by Zack Snyder. I cannot believe still to this day that they destroyed the entirety of Metropolis to start the DC universe. But don't get me started.

Man of Steel, still a good movie, but that's just a weird, weird, weird choice. Be careful, Bob. the entirety of metropolis to start the dc universe but don't get me started man of steel still a good movie but that's just a weird weird weird choice be careful bob i'm not looking for the snyder people i'll be like i don't trust humanity anymore those guys well they're fucking batman for superman the whole like point of the movie is like well superman fucked everything up so batman can't trust him anymore well you what? You could have done a whole movie without having to undo Man of Steel. We're not getting into that. That's not the podcast. That's for a different time.

They start the war in the desert. Batman comes in on the Batwing. He's got to attack some of the big stuff. Zod and Supergirl are a one-on-one fight. And then the two Flashes go against Kryptonians. So all of the like super powered. And this is for young Barry, like very jarring and weird because they're as fast as he is,

or at least close to as fast as he is. So it's more of an even fight, huge fight scene, huge battle scene. And then Keaton sacrifices himself at one point and super girl dies like within like a couple minutes of each other 2013 barry realizes he can go back in time so he's like let's go back let's prevent this barry's already like the r barry's kind of like i feel weird calling him r barry normal barry's like i don't know call the listeners you guys deal with them yeah

he's like i already like i don't know if this is going to work. They try it though. They go back in time. Every time Keaton and super girl are going to die. This is like a nexus event. This is a point in the timeline that is going to happen in every world. Keaton even says in one of them, he's like,

I wish we could go back or something. And Keaton's like, you already did. I was like, Oh, what a fucking great line. And they keep going back to the point where 2013 Barry's getting marked up, scarred. He's getting shards of ships go through him.

And it's starting to piece together in my mind what's happening here. I'm sure everyone else, the same thing. The weird creature that we've been seeing that has shards all over him kind of looks like Doomsday. It's Dark Flash. all over him kind of looks like doomsday it's dark flash it's this version of flash if he just kept going back kept trying to fix this over and over and over again until he was an old man the way they animated him in the end i thought was really cool the way he had like gray hair coming out of a weird mask and he was still was scarred up and he talks to barry he talks to both of the barrys about his journey and, you know,

I'm close to figuring it out. I'm so close. And it kind of goes back to an earlier scene where Barry needs to figure out every kind of problem to figure out the solution to the math problem. The 2013 Barry who wanted to go back and fix everything to keep the mom alive, realizes, all right, this isn't, this isn't going to work. This is a lost cause. Kind of sacrifices himself. Saves Barry. Jumps in front of him. Knows he's right. And then normal Barry realizes he's got to go back and put the tomato can back on the shelf.

Goes, has a very emotional talk with his mom. It was a nice emotional scene, knowing that this is going to be the last time he ever sees his mom. Goes back to the present day. The father's court case is one which i was uh a little confused because bruce wayne ben affleck bruce wayne gives him the footage earlier in the movie where he's like sorry your father never looks up now when he goes back the footage shows his father looking up so right away in my mind i'm like is that the first little sign that we're in a different multiverse now that something was changed by ezra in all of this and yeah something was changed by ezra in all of this because we got a shocking shocking shocking ending yeah because i was

calling calls him bruce wayne calls him picks up the phone he's like oh yeah i'm pulling up right now comes out of the car clem george clooney what the fuck and that's what esther says he's like what the fuck who the fuck is this guy george clooney walks out and we'll get to the cameos in a second because that's a whole discussion the other cameos in the movie yeah this cat and the other cameos were mostly spoiled for me unfortunately this cameo was a complete shock and i'm actually a bit sad that the movie is performing as badly as it is at the box office it's not even hitting the low estimates because as much as i don't want another flash movie with ezra i would like to see a sequel to this flash movie where you recast ezra and give us Clooney in the same type of role that Michael Keaton had in this one, where he's a little more than a cameo

and not quite a main character. I think Clooney could redeem himself there. I was like, actually the old man next to me in the theater when Clooney showed up went, oh, what the fuck? And he wasn't happy about it? I was happy about it. I was like, oh shit, what a shocking, genuinely like,

what the fuck moment in this movie. I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with that. I mean, you saw all, you said all the other cameos. So it did feel like it's like, oh, and this is the hammer to it all. And like, yeah. Say what you want to say about Colony. Like the nipples,

I don't think the nipples were his idea, right? The nipples were not his idea. That's the production designer. Yeah, the production designer. They put that one up. And then you have the script, whatever. Maybe Clooney wouldn't have been a great Batman or a very good Batman. But it's time for redemption.

And I don't know, just look in George Clooney's eyes for five seconds and your heart's going to melt. Your soul's going to melt like butter. The guy just has it. So I liked it. And again, I know, I mean, you're going to have DC fans and now you're going to have the Bat fans too, melt your soul's gonna melt like butter the guy just has it so i liked it and again i know i mean you're gonna have dc fans and now you're gonna have the bat fans too where it'd be like either i love that guy i hope i'm on redemption like my guy bob or fuck that guy you know that movie was

the worst movie ever created i personally loved it um i did like an old fuck too when i saw it yeah but i mean true or false does george clooney not have the gravitas of Bruce Wayne when he steps out of that car out of all the actors in the world? He's got to be one of the top in terms of like that, like aura. So when I saw Clooney, my first thought was that is a Bruce Wayne. And then I go, Hey,

you dumb moron. He was Bruce Wayne already. Cause my first thought was, yeah, like rich in shape guy who fucking you know good looking yada yada yada that guy plays bruce wayne perfectly and then it's like yeah well he was you saw the movie on probably opening night let's be honest and you walked out being like what the fuck was that so yeah like he is he's the stereo of the prototypical bruce

wayne in a weird way at least that side of it so it's almost like I'd love Keaton to be the version that he plays in like the cave. Right. And you could let Affleck do like the fighting scenes. George Clooney can be Bruce Wayne. It would be confusing as fuck. Like Robert Pattinson's the emo one. Yup.

Yup. And then you have like Christian Bale can kind of just like do the driving and the, where is she? And just like hitting the stuff. They you know what? There you go, James Gunn. You have your fucking DC Batman planned out right for you for free on the podcast.

But yeah, I loved it. I personally like I loved it. Like I love stuff in this movie. I didn't I wasn't like, oh, man, this isn't a scene I'm going to watch 100 times. But it was like, oh, I thought it was a cute little a cute little moment. Yeah, exactly. watch a hundred times but it was like oh i thought it was a cute little a cute little moment yeah exactly now i was so confused because when he keeps looking when he looks at the um security camera in the grocery store i'm like what's he doing what's he doing and that's when i said ah he moved the cans to the top shelf instead of putting the cans in his mom's grocery

cart did he moves the cans to the top shelf bob i'm telling this little he looks up so he looks up so that's using that big brain not my boy as we're the listeners boy no using his brain and putting the cans on the top shelf so he knew his dad would look up obviously it's a very minor change but it just turned motherfucking michael keaton and ben affleck into George Clooney. So, again, we have spaghetti things. You're going to fuck with spaghetti. Mom's spaghetti.

All this kind of stuff. A lot of things being woven together here in the movie. So that was the big like that was the little change he made that helped. At least he could save his dad without saving his mom as well. Now, the other cameos while the speed force is collapsing and we have the dark flash talking to the other barry's we see a couple different universes and some of these different universes are crazy like crazier than you ever would have anticipated you get adam west's batman you get like the original superman which i should know

his name but the black and white you know hands on the hips type superman george reeves i believe it was george reeves no but they were reave christopher reeve and george reeves that's crazy that's crazy how did i not know that so you get george reeves you get adam west then you do get christopherves, Superman, which the handling of the camera angle they used a bit like machiny. I don't know. It's like a straight on shot. And then it like slowly pans around. It's also Supergirl who played Supergirl in the 80s. Don't know that one.

She actually apparently. We're going to call her Christina Reeves. Christina Reeves. She filmed her cameo. She's still alive. She filmed her cameo. She's still alive. She filmed her cameo and they de-aged her. And then you get fucking Nicolas Cage

as Superman fighting a giant spider. Harkening back to the Kevin Smith story about John Landis. Is that the name of the crazy producer? Whatever his name was. He's been asking for a spider

in a Superman movie forever and he finally got it. This was the one that got spoiled for me like a month ago. I think I told you like a month ago. I was like, someone DM'd me a Flash spoiler that I'm pissed about. It was this one. They just DM'd me, can you believe Nicolas Cage is Superman in a Flash?

I was like, you gotta be kidding me because this would have stunned me. Still the way it was handled in the way it was done. I thought it was awesome. The Christopher Reeve cameo is getting a lot of backlash. People hate it. People are like, this is disgusting. I can't believe you would reanimate, you know, a dead body for this movie. I got to be completely honest.

If they got the family's consent and everything went through the estate went through the right pathways i don't really have an issue with it personally and it's not my thing to have an issue with and you know i have no connection to christopher reeve but even the egon reanimation in ghostbusters afterlife i thought that was very tasteful and i know they talked to the family about that and the Reitmans talked to whatever. People hated that. I saw a tweet recently calling that

the most disgusting thing in the history of cinema. Let me put this out there right now. When I die, please reanimate me and put me in movies. I'm dead serious. I don't care if it's The Flash. I don't care if it's whatever. Put me in movies. Put my likeness in movies. I'm dead serious. I don't care if it's the flash. I don't care if it's whatever. Put me in movies. Put my likeness movies.

I'm putting it out there right now. Don't call it disgusting when it happens. If it happens, I want this face in different movies. Put me in the background. Put me in a crowd scene. I think it's a nice thing to continue the legacy of these people. Bring the Fox back.

Make them live forever. Yeah. But that honestly, that's what it does. Like there's a whole generation of people who don't know who that Superman is and their parents are going to go, oh, we could watch that. They go on Max, the one with HBO. We'll go watch that. You know, Christopher Reeve Superman, which if you haven't seen it, if you're listening to this podcast, you haven't seen the original Superman.

Go back and watch it. It's a super fun movie. It's like got that 70s charm. And obviously you're not going to watch it and be like better seat. Well, you might say better than the flash, but go back and watch it because honestly, like that is the Superman that has the hope and charm and smiles. And it has a little bit of joy to it.

I I'll say this. If Christopher Reeves wasn't in that scene, you would know why he wasn't, but it would have felt like you were missing something, especially if you had other, you know, Superman or cat or heroes that were dead at that point. Maybe that's when you use some of that extra budget money though, and be like,

let's not fuck this up and make it look like we just like drew it on post-it. Like the Harold Ramis one in Ghostbusters was incredible. He's like, he's moving around, smiling. Like the expressions on his face were next level shit, right? I know like the Princess Leia one was kind of another one that had people kind of feel in both ways. But it was, I think if you're going to do it, just do it right.

They didn't do it right. But if the family says it's good, it's like, dude, that's fucking Superman for a lot of people is he is the Superman, right so i think you gotta have him in it if you're gonna have a minute and unfortunately there's no other way to have a minute just like if you're gonna yeah take some of the like i guess the only other part you couldn't do maybe take some of the budget money from ezra's like 13th bail of the last year and you put put it towards their lead. Ezra rotten to sell for a couple of days and make Christopher Reeves look good. But I'm with you, Bob.

And, yeah, reanimate the fuck out. Reanimate Robbie. Hashtag reanimate Robbie. Do you want to be reanimated? Yeah, of course, though. All right, then put the Macy boys in your movies. If I die, too, like, ghostwrite blogs for me on Barstool and just, like, he, like, comes always around

in the universe. I like that. Yeah, there's always a Clem like you're like doing the clown you could just have different people play clem um and also they reanimated adam west i mean it wasn't as it wasn't like a clear shot of his face it was just like you kind of saw him running i think you heard his voice but i haven't seen people upset about adam west just the reeve one because i guess it was his face now were you just you know stoked about that because for all the talk about all these different batman supermans like that was your dude you grew up with adam west yeah oh i love that like that made me smile year to year loved that so like listen were the cameos in that moment very like kind of ham-fisted of like remember this guy remember

this guy what about this guy remember your childhood yes did they work for me honestly they did i like i kind of popped for everyone the nicholas cage one come on you're gonna put that nerdy a reference in your movie speaks to how crazy that story has become an internet legend basically too of just even the pictures of nicholas cage in the suit that have been blogged you know on barstool many many times if of Nicolas Cage in the suit that have been blogged, you know, on Barstool many, many times. If you're interested in the Nicolas Cage Superman movie, there's a documentary called like, I forget what it's called, like, but Superman Returns, the movie that never got made,

something like that. And it's a very good documentary, very interesting about the chaotic movie that would have been made. And if you're not aware. The Death of Superman Lives. Yes. The Death of Superman Lives. Yes. I remember some of it. The Death of Superman Lives. It's very good.

My favorite piece of nerdy memorabilia that I have to this day is the script. I printed it out. It's readily available online. I printed it out. I brought it to

my first ever Kevin Smith signing when I was, I want to say I was like 13 and he signed it, Robbie, fuck Tim Burton, Kevin Smith. Because Tim Burton was the

one who shut that production down so that's my favorite like that's one of those houses on fire let me go grab the script and that's yeah that's that's perfect and I I am also fucked Tim Burton he basically takes every movie or like cool franchise we love and he just makes it he throws cobwebs on it spiders castellano and it just is like what he did to charlie and charlotte factory i will never forget even i and listen i know you're you're batman stuff i know that's like a keyboard but like there's a lot of people that could have made fucking batman awesome too let's be honest it didn't have to be tim burton i am not back in the day i don't know i think tim burton had to be the

guy i'm not gonna let this break apart the basement. All right, Batman Returns. Do you think we could have went a different way with Batman Returns? No, I like Returns better than the original. I'm a Returns over 89 guy. How about that? So Danny DeVito eating fish, looking like an actual penguin, and the giant rubber duckies.

Okay, we're in a good place right now. I'm going to say this, Robbie. I'm going to say this with all the cameos. penguin and the giant rubber duckies okay we're not we're in a good place right now i'm gonna say this robbie i'm gonna say this with all the cameos those cameos they were a little like you said ham-fisted they're just shoving the fan service down your throat they're doing whatever it is in a way i think it is the perfect way to wrap up this latest iteration of the dcu this is everything we had you saw our wonder woman in the beginning. Our Batman even got a little Superman in there. Aquaman you see in the post-credits. You have all these different Superman, Batmans everyone grew up with,

Flashes, all of it. There it is. And James Gunn's going to snap them all away. They're going to go away. And listen, in the future, you may get some sort of a nod or reference and maybe even an actual actor come back but like i think this should be the movie where it's like you take it all you put it in a bowl and you put it on the shelf and you go all right that was the last x amount of years

of dc let's start completely fresh here because there's just you can't they cannot survive i don't think this dc can survive if they even do a slight nod to anything even like the last couple of years because then it goes like, well, then a couple of years before that was this. And then it just goes into Snyderverse and cuts and all this other kind of bullshit that it's like, you can't. And the way the entertainment world works,

you can't just have all these angry people just downloading your movies, shitting on stuff and just destroying stuff. And then, you know, suits are going to listen to people and fire directors and fire producers and all this other kind of stuff. You to just i think make a clean break and i think by wrapping all that up and i mean it's at the point now too where it's almost like there's

so many different colors of paint at the end of this movie it just turns brown and you're like okay that's a lot and we're done like because i think that was like the epitome of dc in that one kind of jumbled cool but also kind of weird scene. Absolutely. That's a great way to put it. It's like the Malcolm in the Middle episode. I don't know if you remember when, is it Hal is the dad? Yeah.

Brian Crescent, he's doing splatter paintings. And he's like, I just got to get it just right. And he puts on so many layers that at the end of the episode, he's like, it's perfect. And it's this thick on the wall and it just like slowly falls on top of him or something but that's what it is it's a huge chunk of splatter paint that you've been throwing at the wall for years now and let's call it a day let's start new start fresh let's do our fast food review also the post-credit scene kind of a nothing post-credit scene quick. Quick comedy one with Jason Momoa.

Nice seeing him, but meh, nothing. So I go to, I think it's After Credits is the app, and it tells you if there's a mid-credits, if there's a post-credits, and then the approval rating it gets for each. People say if it's thumbs up, thumbs down. I think it had a 75%, and I'm like, all right, well, it must be pretty decent. I'll tell you, that did nothing for me. I don me i don't know it didn't really hit for me either okay because maybe people who watch dc more or bigger aquaman people i was like really i just i like aquaman and by the way we got a

tamora morrison cameo we forgot to mention that was awesome i like this aquaman's dad yeah and you haven't seen aquaman so in the moment i thought oh shit Tamora Morrison and then I thought it did Clem think oh shit they called Boba yeah he's in his uh his back the tank right now and I like how they kind of reverse it where the dog they named the dog instead of obviously Aquaman because I mean his wife is not a uh a queen from Atlantis it was really funny so fast food review for the flash we were talking about this one is a tough one. You said you were debating it for a while. I came up with mine pretty quick and I texted it to you as a joke and then thought, no, no, whatever you think the best one is, endorsed by Jared. So you're like, listen, this is a good sandwich, but I don't know if I'm allowed to like it. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that it's good. I don't think I'll be going back to it because we can't associate ourselves with that guy.

Maybe you take that guy out of it and you bring the sandwich back under a new name and look and everything. That's what I'm going with for this one. It'll give you, you know, you hear $5, $5, $5 foot longs. You smell the bread. You eat the meatballs or whatever you get from Subway. Gives you those nice nostalgic feelings inside. And then you're like, but wait, that's the dude pitching it. No me gusta.

Yeah, you're like, no, we got to disassociate. Yeah. I like that. No, that was perfect. You texted it over and you nailed it again. Mine is kind of going off the same line in terms of the nostalgic feelings. And it's something that's actually pretty new. It just came out.

I don't know if you've seen this. It's Grimace's birthday at McDonald's right now. I got it. Yeah. You got it? Oh, nice. Yeah, like two days ago. And I went through the drive's right now. I got it. Yeah. You got it? Oh, nice. Yeah, like two days ago. And I went through the drive-thru.

I'm not even kidding. I said, I'm looking to celebrate the big guy today. Put on that Grimace birthday meal. Did you get a chuckle out of him? No, as a teenager. They didn't give me a chuckle. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. So for the people that don't know, it's Grimace's birthday. He's the big purple dude that used to see in McDonald's ads back in the day. And shoot, there's probably people listening who don't even know like that part of grimace. Cause I feel like he's been gone for so long. Um, but it's like either get a big Mac or a chicken nuggets. I think a 10 piece nuggets fries, uh, I think a medium drink and then you get a purple milkshake, which, okay. So Rob, I got to know since I didn't have it. What did you get? Did you get the Big Mac or the nuggets?

So I got the nuggets and my typical McDonald's order, I go 10 piece nugget meal. And then I do a cheeseburger, no pickles on top of that. Big Mac, sometimes it's just too big. I'll go Big Mac once in a blue moon, but it's a lot. So I went with the nuggets and I get the purple shake. Jeff D'Lo told me the purple shake tasted like fruity pebbles. Very much looking forward to that. I did not think it tasted like fruity pebbles very much looking forward to that

I did not think it tasted like fruity pebbles I thought it tasted straight grape it says purple berry is the uh is the flavor and I'm like dude just call it purple everyone has a flavor right so the reason why I say it's the grimmest birthday meal is because you're kind of just mashing a ton of stuff together you get either nuggets you get the big mac you have the fries you have the drinks you have a milkshake at the end. And then even the commercial, they have Grimace in the commercial. They have the giant

chicken with like, she's like the airplane pilot with things on her head. There's Hamburglar. There's the little chicken McNuggets. Mayor McCheese, was he in it? What? Mayor McCheese, was he in it? I didn't see the mayor, but I have to go back. And it even has, like, a welcome back.

It's like the welcome back Cotter song. And it just makes you feel good inside, a lot of nostalgia. And to be honest, a lot of it doesn't make sense because, like, we forgot about Grimace, and now he's just back throwing, you know, fast food down our throats. We are acting like Grimace was, like, all of our favorite guy all of a sudden. We're like, Grimace, the birthday meal. Birthday boy. birthday boy.

Birthday boy, big G, big G. So like it's, that's what this movie is. It's a lot of nostalgia. It's a lot of feel good stuff. It may not be the best thing on the menu, but it's like, if you just want to go for it and try it, you're going to have a good time. Right? Like, yeah, it's a lot.

It's a lot. Just like this birthday meal. It's like rough. I mean, I can't like, that's like 2000 calories you consume that day. It's a lot. Just like this birthday meal. It's like, Rob, I mean, I can't like that's like 2000 calories you consume that day. It was a lot. Yeah. And I didn't finish the shake. I'll say that the shake was and I'm a big like fun shake guy. So when they bring back the shamrock shake, I'm all about it. I love the shamrock shake. This one I expected to be all about. I got maybe a quarter of the way through it and threw it out wasn't my favorite did you go it was like that yeah like the first sip is good don't get me wrong at first if i was

like oh this is good but it's almost too sweet to have like the full you know thing even the small shake thing at mcdonald's is pretty big yeah yeah that's true so it it's it takes a lot out of you um and there's a lot of things you can love about it. A lot of it's just nostalgia. You just get yourself a... I originally thought the meal, you had to get a Big Mac and a Nuggets. I'm like, what are we trying to do? Turn us all into pieces?

That would be a super-sized meal. Exactly. That might be illegal in 2023 to have that much food in one meal. That might be. That's kind of this movie. It's like, it tastes good. You're going to be happy. You're going to, you know, like it.

At the end, you're like, man, that was a little too much. But in the end, it's like, there's things you love. You love the big guy, big grimace. And they even had, did you see, I blogged the other day. They released a Game Boy Color game. I read your blog about it, yeah. They really fucking went all out for the nostalgia and i feel like again christopher reeves adam west they're just you know the nick cage thing

they gave a lot of love to like the kids that grew up with this shit over the years so grimace and uh jared two very interesting very different for the record uh spokesman i don't know we don't know what grimace gets into we have no idea we We have no idea. We're not putting our backing behind Grimace by any means. You look in his eyes, man. There could be some darkness there. He's almost too happy, right? I mean, he's getting back in the news. He's going to get Ken Boned. They're going to find some weird

shit on his Reddit history. Grimace is going to be out of here. Should we do a hashtag? Should we do a Grimace hashtag? Oh, boy. Grimace Flash? Grimace Flash. we do a Grimace hashtag? Oh, boy. Grimace Flash? Grimace Flash. Hashtag Grimace Flash.

Hashtag Grimace Flash if you made it to the end of the episode. If you did make it to the end of the episode, thank you. Thank you for bearing with us. I know it was a bit delayed on Sunday. We weren't speedy like the Flash to get this one out. Also, real quick. Listen, box office wasn't either so i think most people were with us yeah you said it perfect this isn't going to be an opening night or even

maybe opening weekend movie so we probably have some time i have to just say this it's very hard to do so this is not a flash criticism it's a all flash and all people like flash such as quick silver the running always looks goofy no matter matter who, whether it's flash, whether it's quick silver, there's no good, easy way to do running. What if I do it? There we go.

All right. Robbie's our new flash. It's done. I did think the scene was funny when he loses the powers and tries to run like the flash. And he does that weird, like over the top, like obviously fake.

I thought that was a funny scene. That's it though. We will be back next week to talk secret invasion. Not so secret anymore. Cause it's coming up. And the first two episodes were screened in, I think it was the El Capitan theater in California. Allegedly some good stuff.

People are saying this is Marvel without any humor. This is just straight up like gritty spy espionage drama stuff so look forward to that secret invasion next week see you then