My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 288 - SECRET INVASION EPISODE 1 WITH CLEM

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

Robbie and Clem are back to recap the first episode of Marvel's 'Secret Invasion' starring Samuel L Jackson! What'd they think of the grounded espionage show?! Tune in and find out! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! Factor: Head to FACTORMEALS.com/robbie50 and use promo code robbie50 for 50% off your first box! Gametime: Redeem code MMB on the Gametime app for $20 off your first purchase! ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3C. I am your host, Robbie Fox, or am I? And this is my co-host, Clem, or is it? We don't know, because this week we're recapping Secret Invasion episode one. It's the pilot new Marvel series. It's kind of an espionage spy winter soldier type feel. And first episode I thought was pretty damn good, Clem. I was very into it. I wasn't blown away by it. I wasn't like, this is something I've never seen before, but I thought it was very good. I love the vibe. I love the tense scenes of pretty much suspecting literally every single person in this show is an alien at all times. It's kind of like freebasing Mephisto into my veins. Bob, the sus list.

Let me read you the sus list. Every motherfucking buddy is on the sus list right now. Even guys that are girls even that aren't on the sus list right now even guys that are girls even that aren't on the sus list if you change the scene i'm like oh this might be someone that isn't the person we've been with for 95 of the episode or the season so anytime i see someone on screen i am thinking scroll the scroll list is basically with the sus scroll list they should change the imdb instead of cast it should just say sus list or scroll list. Like, it's crazy. And I got to say, we were talking about the marketing last week of Secret Invasion or maybe the week before and how it kind of snuck up on us.

And we didn't really know it was coming. Not a ton of commercials compared to other Marvel shows. I felt not a ton of other ads. Then it kind of ramped up and they started doing some interesting advertising. So they started putting out codes and you had to put the code in and figure out the puzzle and then you get like the first five minutes of the episode and then they had people in full scroll makeup and face paint walking around chicago walking around the bean walking around all places in in america i guess i think it's pretty cool advertising for them to do something different for this.

I also, after watching the first episode, kind of understand if they held back a little bit and not that the show isn't worthy of it. Just that I think we are going to get kind of a slow build in this one. Like and or like episode one, it has a big moment at the end, but it's not the most action-packed, mind-blowing episode. It's tense. Most of it is just kind of like you feel something building the whole time, and you know shit's going to go down in the series. But it is definitely a more mature show for Marvel, I think. There's maybe one or two jokes in it, but they weren't Thor, Love, and Thunder knee-slappers. Yeah.

They were very quick, Samuel L. Jackson being like, yeah, like yeah buddy listen you ain't handsome it's very quick that's a great point and i don't even remember what the marketing and hype was for falcon and winter soldier but for a show that was the show that that was and that this is it's like you kind of let's let's just pump the brakes a little bit here you want to go over the top crazy for a comic book movie That's fine but this is a little different And it's kind of like you said Andor Which I mean Disney is going to probably Mickey Mouse is praying every night

Before he goes in Please God let this be a fucking Andor For Marvel because that makes me so much Motherfucking money And everyone will renew their Disney Plus subscriptions Because that's the gold standard for the people that are watching or listening that are not Star Wars fans and or

was like this for Star Wars and it fucking hit. And it didn't hit for I'd say like four episodes is when it really got humming. And the first few were kind of like this episode. So yeah, I liked it. Actually, no, I didn't like it.

I hated it. I hated this episode. I hate everything about it. And I'll tell you why. What they did in those opening credits and using AI was the most offensive thing I've ever seen as a human being. I am a human. There are other humans out there too

who are just trying to make some hard work. Our boy Nathan Hurst, right? Just someone trying to be an artist and the artists of this world, whether it's drawing, whether it's music, whether it's writing smut blogs, all of us are artists. And that Disney would go ahead

and use artificial intelligence, the machines, the robots, makes them the most despicable corporation in the history of corporations and probably the worst thing Disney has ever done. So I'm out on this show um i will be logging off now see you later we will never support marvel ever again after this all right that was for the tiktok guys that you know now they did as clem mentioned in our quick tiktok taping you just witnessed there,

they used AI for the opening credits. And people are up in arms about it. People basically just said what Clem just said, but they're actually really pissed about it. And artists, I could see an artist being like, yo, what the fuck, we're just going to start doing AI opening credits now? I think Jeff D. Lowe had a great take and a great tweet about this last night where he was like, for this specific show, where it's all about paranoia and infiltration of humanity, AI kind of works. And also, if you go to the credits, eight different artists got credited for this opening sequence. And the company who made it put out a statement was like, listen,

we did use AI tools, but a team of artists worked on that. So I guess what people get upset about, and I might be explaining this so poorly because I don't really understand the AI art either. When you put something into AI art, Nick Fury as Skrull, I think it's taking artwork and images from other people and combining them and morphing them into one thing. If I'm understanding this correctly, a team of artists did their own art and then like AI enhanced it or AI morphed their own stuff. If that's how it went down, I don't think anyone has a right to be upset about that because you're just using AI as like a tool on your own stuff at that point.

If it's different, I kind of get it. But personally, I can't get angry about that. ai as like a tool on your own stuff at that point if it's different i i kind of get it but personally i can't get angry about that i just don't have the energy to get upset about that there's so much shit to be angry and outraged about i feel like the tides are actually turning i kind of messed up that i use the tides are turning because like this submarine thing that's been going on is the first time people have just been unloading jokes on people that are probably going to die and it's just, it feels like 2013 again. It feels like a decade ago.

And I'm like, wow, we're kind of back to where we were back in the day. You know what's going to happen? KFC is going to tweet a joke about it. And then everyone's going to just, you know, cancel him, kill him for what he said. But the rest of the people, I was so disconnected. I didn't know what was going on for the first few days of it. So I didn't even know what was happening. And I'm just like, man, there's a lot of jokes going on these guys are probably

just going to be fine it's like oh no they are completely fucked so yeah uh this ai thing has kind of become the thing that everyone's getting on their uh soapbox for hey if it's like i understand i don't want the machines to come it feels like the the aliens seem like the real enemy in this show if the ai is the second enemy and then the humans are just taking L's left and right, it is what it is. Also, if I knew how to use AI, I would probably just make AI make an entire script for me right now. And the podcast would just be AI Clem and AI Bob going back and forth while real Clem and Bob, you know, went outside and like went to the movies or went swimming or something. Right. It's like. Absolutely. I don't know how to use ai either if anyone out there knows how to use ai please send us some like ai versions of us as

scrolls and we'll make a little like intro sequence for next week that'd be kind of sick that would be fucking awesome yeah let's you know actually i think brennan clancy he dabbles in ai here and there so i have to definitely does he's always on the on the forefront of whatever the next technology to take over is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said to me, he goes, hey, I was thinking, I saw your Baby Yoda jump take. Have you ever thought about making AI to make your thumbnails? I'm like, Brendan, AI can make fucking thumbnails?

What are you talking about right now, dude? And that's the kind of stuff he's talking about. So we are, I don't want to say proAI, but I know the machines are also listening. I'm open to AI, though. Yeah, like I think the people being resistant, don't use this ever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think those people are going to get left behind. This secret invasion recap is brought to you by 3C. Of all the things in life, one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want, whenever you want,

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the Beatles final song later this year. And it's just, they didn't use AI to like recreate a voice or anything crazy like that. They just used it to separate his vocal take from like piano and background noise of an old demo. I think, I think you got to lean into it. You got to use it.

You got to be on the forefront. You know, who was on the forefront of technology all the time? George Lucas, George Lucas made some of the greatest works ever made so i thought you're gonna say like a couple problematic historical figures i'm happy you went with george lucas the only one that matters to me two idiots talking ai for five minutes that was just that segment of the uh of my mom's basement hopefully i'm sure that's gonna come up again i feel like ai is one of those things we'll have to address at some point in the podcast but uh hey enlighten us to the the artists of the

world why we should be outraged and hey we'll like i'll stage a fucking um protest outside of disney if we can get like plane tickets back to orlando maybe we go to california this time right i mean the writers are striking the actors may be striking artists strike fuck all that's gonna be left are the podcasters and the bloggers we'll have nothing to cover so we'll we'll be able to take over the world let's fucking go everyone just strike and if you're upset about these takes if you're an artist out there please don't be mad at us we just read off the script that was written by an ai that's true that's All right, let's get into this episode. We start in Moscow.

Our guy Heavy Spoilers pointed out we have the same font as Civil War and Black Widow when they do the locations. Kind of like keeping us along that same grounded Marvel zone. And I love that we have almost the Avengers of regular humans showing up in this. Like we have a roadie, we have Ross, we have Samuel L.

Jackson, obviously Nick Fury, Maria Hill. There's a ton of memorable faces, but not superheroes in this. And they came out right away and said like, don't expect any superheroes in this. This is the grounded Marvel show,

which I'm very cool with. Your mic is muted. AI is trying to censor me already i'm gonna call these guys the boring avengers that's their name oh okay well that's the that that was mean um we we meet this guy agent prescott who is trying to tell ross who's on the run right now if you didn't see wakanda forever ross is on is on the run for helping Wakanda and he meets this guy agent Prescott he's trying to tell Ross about the Skrulls he's like they're invading I'm telling you he kind of looks like the crazy guy from like Bryan Cranston from the beginning of Godzilla where he's like I'm telling you Godzilla's coming and everyone calls

him crazy until he's right he's got all the papers on the wall the yarn connections and he says that they're starting wars all of these like terror attacks and random bombings and explosions they're all connected it's it's all connected and they're desperate for a new home planet that's why ross immediately is like well we got to tell nick fury about this as i'm watching this i'm like oh this guy's definitely a scroll he ross is gonna have to be on the run from this guy takes quite a different turn though um he says the next attack is in moscow that's the big one and then he attacks ross because i guess ross had like a weird reaction to that or whatever i don't know what necessarily set him off he attacks ross um ross flees he says to maria hill like i need an escort

out of here he's tracked by talos along the way, jumps off a building into the street, just like, kind of like, smacks and then is still okay a little bit, winds up dying, turns into a Skrull, he's revealed. And we gotta think, how long has Ross been a Skrull

at the beginning of the episode? Before credits, that's the first, like, five minutes right there. Wild opening to the show and i assume that opening is going to be very very foreshadowing of basically the whole series yeah we're fucked everything skull scroll list sus list whatever you want to call it i for some reason was like santa do you want to watch this with me and she's like sure and as i'm watching it, and then by the end when there was some serious shit going on, like this was probably a mistake,

but she was so convinced. She's like, Dad, this guy is going to just pull his mask off. I'm like, well, they don't have to pull their masks off. They just morph into it. But she was so convinced, like you, that Ross was the Skrull, or that Petos? Prescott? Yeah, Prescott. Dak Prescott, Cowboys, Skrull, or that Petos? Prescott.

Yeah, Prescott. Dak Prescott. Cowboys. Skrull. I mean, that's fucking Jerry Jones at Stunovich. He hates humans. Skrull. Skrull.

Jerry Jones Skrull as well. I was all over this, though. I got to say, I wish, like, obviously we couldn't do the podcast live. I was like, Ross is the Skrull. Because the way the other guy was talking, there was no reason for him to be like, hey, the Skrull. Because the way the other guy was talking, there was no reason for him to be like, hey, the Skrulls are here. I'm definitely not a Skrull, by the way, but the Skrulls are in charge. So I was like, oh, fuck. And then when you hear the shot go off, I thought he got shot from behind at first. I didn't realize it was coming from the ground. I also appreciated

this. And this is like a little bit of a side note but i like that scroll that was ross didn't just fall to his death he hit the building and then fell it made it a little more gnarlier and a little more realistic like you just don't have to just fall to your death he thought he almost had it came that close and then all and i thought he was going to survive didn't you did you think he was going to make it well yeah and then i i guess it's because he has the scroll superhuman ability it like took him to the last brink or whatever. But seeing his face all messed up and everything, he almost looked like Two-Face, Harvey Dent over here. Yeah, exactly.

Which, hey, another little metaphor there. These Skrulls, they're all Two-Face. Maybe we'll make this like an English lit podcast and we'll really get into all the different foreshadowings. Maybe a red herring or two. I always loved a red herring. That was one of my favorite ones.. Maybe a red herring or two. I always loved a red herring. That was one of my favorite ones. I love a red herring, but I always confuse it with a red flag. And then I always sound stupid.

I'm like, oh, look at that. It's a red flag. And everyone's like, what? Oh, we've had a few of those lately on the podcast. So we're just completely off with our, what was the one that we had a couple episodes ago? What did I call, oh, I called Spider-Verse an eyesore. An eyesore. I said, oh my God, there hasn't been an eyesore like this it's beautiful and you were like what

the fuck and and uh lord and miller liked that tweet so they've seen that the creators of spider verse quick tangent i just happened to watch the lego movie and again again for the record then i watched two for the first time top of the like awesome lord of miller and they were uh miller's first machines right uh mitchell's first machine they were involved they didn't write it or direct it but they were the producers yeah okay because again those guys just fucking rule that's that i just wanted to add that at some point of the podcast to anyone that hasn't seen spider-verse those guys just fucking rule so i don't know if you knew this i'm sure you knew one part of it maybe you forgot they were attached to do solo for a long portion before ron howard came over and reshot most of it it was them on solo and at one point they were attached to do

the flash as well which the flash you know wound up being a i think for what we expected a better movie than solo i know we have solo lovers on the podcast as well i don't mean to like oh i didn't need to hear this bob everything in the star wars universe would be whatever we're in a better place than we were then that just hurts those guys are fucking awesome i wish they were involved in solo they at least wouldn't have given us the han solo name scene at the very least. I'm pretty sure they would have killed that one, right? No, I don't think they would have given us that one. Hopefully not. But they said it would have been more comedic and I'm

very curious because they were apparently almost done with the movie when Ron Howard came over and took over due to creative differences. What did the Lord and Miller cut look like? What? Oh, you think Han Solo is like, you know, funny and entertaining and just like a cool guy that's not the character that i knew in the fucking trilogy what are you talking about solo

very serious and uh very literal on everything too god damn all right keep it going get me all right all right let's keep it going we get that goddamn ai sequence and then nick fury comes back down to earth and i love the opening shot where he kind of looks like an alien we saw in the trailer but the way he's lit from the back and his head is so skinny at first he looks like a big tall like gray-headed alien walks out though he's got a limp and he goes to see talos talos is upset because well he's not upset but he's been depressed because his wife died and they kind of catch each other up nick fury is very sympathetic he's upset too i'm gonna say upset and depressed that his wife is well yeah he's both yeah but a little bummed melancholy melancholy is a word that he's got this girl invasion like literally happening and he's like

ah fuck how am i gonna convince everyone but i'm the good scroll you know yeah i swear some of us are good so we're gonna get a lot of that as well has talos been nick fury since the blip and i ask that in that like the second nick fury came back did he he went to tony stark's funeral right like that wasn't talos oh that's a good question was it right after the funeral he went up to the space station? We know Talos was Nick Fury and far from home, and that's the only time we've seen him live action since the blip. I'm going to, when this series is over,

or at least like this fucking whole phase, I don't know. I need to just get like the timelines for everybody because I don't know the answer. Well, I know know Ross too was Ross fucking scrolling Wakanda forever because that wouldn't make much sense no no and heavy spoilers and say it too it's like when a guy like that kind of comes

out who is so integral to the like workings of agencies like this it's so important to like the other side because then it's like now we have this guy if you can trust this guy which our girl Marie Hill did full fucking bore and then it's like whoopsie daisy that's yeah that was uh what do they call it a jimbo on part of my take back in the day it was a jimbo yeah all the jimbo maria hill pulled a big time jimbo there shout out uh jim tomasula that

was who it was based on uh but holy cow so i'm and i'm trying to like remember because like the whole nick fury thing and captain marvel and he's up in space there was a lot of shit going on in the mcu then and i'm just trying to get like the nick fury i know about his steps so i yeah i just don't know robbie and every episode is saying you've been different since the blip you've been different since the blip three steps ahead yeah yeah i keep thinking during my first watch of the episode i was thinking oh my god is nick fury at the end of the episode going to be revealed to be a scroll and then like an idiot i'm like oh no he literally was a scroll and they showed us that they were like no he's a scroll it's fucking ben mendelsohn who by the way in everything ben

mendelsohn's in he's fantastic what a great actor he's of my favorites. This is a Ben Mendelsohn, pro Ben Mendelsohn podcast. We're going to say that right now. Big time. Now, if anything comes out about Ben Mendelsohn that's bad, though, we have to then where? Are you ready to disavow? You can't disavow when you say you're a Ben Mendelsohn podcast. I'm looking at personal life here on Wikipedia. Ready?

Married to British-American journalist Emma emma forest has a daughter um and another daughter from a previous actress who uh previously who's also an actor he enforced divorce in 2016 so nothing nothing bad in the personal no arrests yeah no arrests no nothing he looks right now i need those people as my uh my guys all right so i guess we're we're a ben mendelsohn podcast you know his first name isn't ben though oh no it's not paul benjamin mendelsohn mendelsohn so if we're gonna be on the guy we need to know like is ben mendelsohn the scroll version of paul mendelsohn or vice versa oh yeah it's a good question now what else is a good question where can you get the cheapest tickets?

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$20 off your first purchase love game time thank you for sponsoring the pod so we learn a little bit more about the scrolls they're immune to radiation so they've set up their home in a nuclear plant which is kind of sick now the name that they're going by the little like terrorist organization that they have we had like the flag smashers and cool names like that they're going by the little like terrorist organization that they have we had like the flag smashers and cool names like that they're just americans against russians i mean they're not creative we learned that about the species right away what the fuck is that americans against russians so i actually have a take on this and it's it's a little different but it's for good reason i actually kind of appreciated the aar and then they're like american against americans against russians

and the reason why is growing up kid of the 80s that's who you like when you were playing like army you were always facing the russians you know rocky's face in the russians in the movies it's not just the army obviously you have like rambo you have all these everything but you have the russians are always the bad guys for the most part so it just kind of felt nice gave me a little bit of like oh yeah that's right we're back to facing the russians again and uh that's about as fucking like that that was probably like honestly there there was definitely like a group of kids who were like eight-year-olds they're like we are the americans against russians like that was the name of their group so i almost appreciate that the scrolls are just basically a bunch of eight-year-olds trying to figure out and also quick little tangent that

you had mentioned earlier when they were listing all the countries where they had these like bomb bombings going up like columbia fighting the philippines was like one of the funny i'm just like i love what it's like these like two like flyweight countries just battling each other and instead of just like oh yeah now we're gonna get the americans with the russians all right but like what would be the funniest combination of like two countries that were just beefing each other you know i mean that's a great question kb could probably have two countries i've never heard of and be like you know like canada and france or something no no i'm saying even like i'm saying um chile versus antarctica or something like that oh yeah yeah yeah you would add antarctica for or

it's like you're just picking it's canada and france actually have had reasons that would probably be a really big problem too if they legitimately escalated a war between canada and france and then like you know america and then everyone in europe right by france are like guys take it easy here you know there's some nato shit that's probably being violated a whole lot of stuff bob who else would be funny who are funny countries funny gun oh we might get canceled for this one i was gonna say like just like a tag team matchup like if greenland and iceland battled oh i would love it if the the lands the lands um teamed up finland throw them in there and it's a triple threat match. Triple threat match.

Finland, Greenland, and Iceland against maybe like the Koreas, like North Korea, South Korea, back together for the first time since the early 1900s. That would be fun too. I like the whole side. We're doing wrestling matches now. We're doing tag teams for legitimate wars. And again, it seems like they're not wars it's like little bombings or whatever little

resistance stages to kind of get people you know the unbalance of the force which by the way are the unbalance of the force unbalance of the world that whole thing when they opened up about fake news culture you don't know what's real and i'm like fuck between um although you know hashtag fake news and you can't trust your old media sources the you know the new york times obviously they've had a bit of a battle with our our old boss now our very rich co-worker um there's some institutions here that may not be viewed the same as they were years ago and then those motherfucking ai assholes it's like you just throw the pope in a goddamn uh you know jacket like a heavy spoilers put in and you've seen that you're like oh shit there's so many ways that like my kids they're

not gonna trust anything by the time they're able to actually go on social media and see what's out there right so that kind of like i think that ai does bleed into this whole world that with scrolls where you can't really trust anything you don't know what's real what's not even the americans against russian seems about as black and white as it can get i gotta make an admission the pope with the jacket is fake that's not real i don't know if it's real or not i'll be honest with you but he put it in his description he put it up when he was talking about and i was like oh is that fake i don't know so we don't even know what's real if that's fake i'll be mind blown i was like the pope's got drip that's crazy look that up on the podcast because now i need to know now this is gonna be

the pope the viral image of pope franc' white puffer coat is totally fake. Wow. I'm sorry to the listeners. That's an impressive AI. That's some impressive shit. Wow. This is the thing about it too. And this is the part about AI that people do not understand.

It's when they figure the thing. Like you put a picture of the Eiffel tower on fire with a canadian flag on it you're like oh shit this finally popped off the french and the canadians are at war but when you throw the pope in a jacket it feels as harmless as it can get right and no yeah it's fucking it's it's real here i'll share it on um i'll share it on the stream we are here yeah if you haven't seen this picture i mean the second one looks like ai i wasn't referencing the second one the first picture though on the left that's the one i thought was real for sure and even as the the old jesus piece which that that actually goes a little too far we're like he is the pope he's probably wearing it and it's like probably part of his pope hoping that's what i thought it's part of the costume

yeah you're part of the costume um so it's just this is tough man like even stuff that seems so silly for that to be fake kind of fucks me up so this whole thing it's kind of like the whole show where you don't know what's real what's not even the americans against the russians uh which again kind of tickles like kind of tickles those old nostalgic things you're you've been hearing americans versus russians for so long i kind of like we're just bringing it bringing the old two heavyweights back up it's it's frazier versus ali for just one more bout right also now i'm thinking we've got almost 300 episodes of this podcast i'm sure that's enough content and the youtube included for someone to go in and in the future, just like when we're long gone,

keep making my mom's basement episodes, you know, like have us review the Avengers 76. Yeah. The, the Scott Lang dynasty, whatever it's going to be. And Hey,

have us go back in time, have us review like Rocky four in the eighties and put a filter over it. Yep. Just be very careful though. You have to, you have to monitor it because remember that Seinffeld ai that they had oh you you gotta you don't send us live yes you gotta edit it yeah you gotta monitor it it's not and then the spongebob one went real dark as well i didn't know there was a spongebob one jesus there was a spongebob

one it went off the rails just like the seininfeld one did. Yeah, that was bad. All right, so we go to the White House, and we see Rhodey and the president. And the president we know is not going to last long because we have President Ross, played by Harrison Ford, coming in the next Captain America. So I would assume at some point in this series, if they're showing the president in this series, he's probably going to die in this series. Or maybe in the beginning of the next Captain America. So i don't know don't quote me on that fury goes on a walk and he's trying to get captured by mi6 is it um because he's got to meet with olivia coleman's character olivia coleman one of the best actors in the game right now and they're just trying to figure out what one another knows about the scrolls he plants a camera on on

an owl in her office cool scene um not like uh you know i expect her to have some big monologues in this series not one of those but a cool scene yeah i was trying to figure out if he hit like a button on the owl at first i thought the same thing it was a quick shot yeah and it kind of gave the owl this weird gross looking eye, kind of like his eye. I'm like, is this just his thing where he has like the gross eye stickers? He puts googly eyes on like one eye of things.

Oh man. That would be, if like, that's a great calling card, like the wet bandits, where if you were the googly eye bandits and you just put googly eyes where everything you took, that would be,

that would be really funny. I feel like she probably know, like you have nick fury in your house you know he's gonna probably do some some silly shit right so i i don't think he's gonna get one over on her but then it's a matter of i knew you thought i was gonna do this so then i did this as well and it's kind of just a espionage one-up spaceship which again my brain is not able to handle this is the problem with these shows for me. Luckily, there don't think there's going to be a lot of car chases, which I do not like. The other stuff, the brain stuff, I'll try my best

to keep up, but it's going to be a lot this season. I wouldn't speak too soon. I think this is a car chase show. You think so? I think it could be, yeah. Like, they've got the bomb, they've got the intel, let's get to them, blah, blah, blah. I mean, it's cheaper than doing a lot of CGI. That was one of the things they said later on they were like we'll get to it on scrollos new scrollos but uh they were like oh yeah we got to keep our human identity almost for like method

acting purposes and i was like oh for we don't want to make that many scroll masks purposes yeah and also you cast amelia clark you don't want her disguised in makeup the whole time like you want people to be like oh it's amelia clark calise i like her she's really good yeah also is she the queen of new scrollos like is she the calise of it she's like the young queen yeah like the princess of it all kind of like calise was when she was growing into that role i kind of like that bob good call and so you know you know what's really funny sienna said this and i was like i can't believe you had like the wherewithal she goes dad like the um well how did she say it she said in a weird way but she was like the people who like are on this they they're they're good at their

like jobs or they're they're good at like acting with everything and i'm like yeah there's like really good actors on this one like i i maybe it was also like more of a grounded marvel show where a lot of the things everyone's flying and shooting shit out of their hands. But she was like blown away by that. And this, I mean, granted, she does have experience. Let's see. She was the shopkeeper in Aladdin. She's currently playing an Oompa Loompa in the summer version of Willy Wonka at the local library.

So she's an actor. She's probably, if I, oh God, I have to tell her. Is she going on strike? Yeah, she might be. But if I tell her about the AI stuff, she might just up and leave. She may just be like, Dad, I can't watch the show. I'm not a scam. I'm not going to support people taking on my fellow actors

and my fellow artists. What if your daughter rallies an entire protest around the library before Oompa Loompa because the actors are going on strike? I like that. Ticket signs and everything? Ticket signs and everything, yeah signs and everything yeah yeah hey funny we are pro we are pro labor on this podcast as well pro ben medelson pro labor as well so when you think he planted that when he plants the camera

and he sees later on like them having that conversation you think they were having kind of a fraud conversation knowing they were being watched i think there's a definite chance of it i think there's right because like if nick fair goes to your house he's gonna put a camera if clem comes to your house have some snacks ready because he's gonna want some snacks there's just certain things you have to do when you have guests over everyone knows you're gonna know about these people yeah you gotta have a tub of uh just the cream from the oreos for clem all right so we intro new scrollos it was a cool way they introed it with the guy showing up kind of like a i guess a refugee showing up at the gates they're like let's show us uh your real form he takes the hat off it was cool way they hid the transition and

the cgi him taking the hat off and putting it back on and she takes him in shows him that they have plants from the planet that are surviving and thriving on earth and gravik runs it gravik runs it he you can leave the compound if you fight for him are the rules essentially and he's the bad guy we know he's the bad guy so you see from their side why you would want to stay there if you're a scroll especially and you get to see that they're more understandable quote-unquote villains they just need a home and that's why they're taken over i guess but you can't trust these guys and then they take them into a room of all the kidnapped people where they're like stealing their memories and you're like okay yeah we really can't trust them bad dude

bad dude yeah scroll that's our version of rico calling people scales scroll scroll scroll Beto was the guy's name I just wrote it down I figured it would just be important but he could have just been an introduction he was the vehicle they used to introduce you to new scrollers or whatever this is my favorite part of it though which I guess kind of goes to what we were just talking about having some tub of cream for me at the house

I loved that they're like this place is so good it has the food that we used to eat up in uh Skrull so what would be if say you're you got you know sent to another planet you're on the running you end up in Jupiter and they're like Robbie we got some earth food here what's the first thing you're making a beeline for food wise oh man that's because like you're just eating like foreign foods you're eating whatever the fuck is it jupiter you're eating like fucking dust balls and shit like that and then it's like boom earth foods here you see my shirt clem hey my guy my dog tony stark tony stark i might be the

shirt inspiring me here but i think a good old fashioned backyard cheeseburger, it doesn't get better. If you haven't had human food forever. And then on the side, like an Arizona green tea, as I've got here, you're going to say the green tea, you got to do the green tea, but food wise, like you could go with a cheesesteak, but like, I love a good cheesesteak. A bad cheesesteak cheese steak is no good no bueno so you don't want to risk it with that a cheeseburger hard to mess up i think and if i don't need a lot i need a burger cheese ketchup some lettuce if you have it but i don't need that and then you give me one of those just potato rolls oh my god that sounds amazing i'm with you so like i'm thinking the same line of thought if it's bad bad, it's not worth it.

But if it's good, it's through the roof. I figured the person who's giving it to me is they're curating it very well. And you get that first slice of pizza that you haven't had in forever. You're just like, oh, I fucking miss pizza so much. I'm going to go with a snack as well. For some reason, the first thing that came to my head was Doritos. Nacho cheese Doritos. Those are my go-tos.

Those are my number ones. And you just get that. Even if you throw, maybe if it's, if you can't give me the pizza, give me a little turkey boar's head sandwich and you get your side of Doritos. That's been my, my go-to lunch forever. So I think I'm going to have to eat this for lunch now that I'm talking live on the pot. I know I'm making myself hungry already. I am going to go into the office and get some five guys yep so if now if

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There you go. And yeah, Clem, this is the week that we're finally moved into the apartment enough to be able to take in the dog. We're excited about it. Oh, heck yeah. It's been a journey for my boy. So you've got the kids now.

I've got the dog now. We're both parents. I just celebrated my first Father's Day. Yeah, happy Father's Day, Robbie. I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you. You as well, yeah. So we meet with a potential Skrull here.

Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Mendelsohn are guys go and talk to him the guy with the beard they're trying to figure out stuff about the attack the bombing and they're on to him pretty quick he is a scroll and they get into a fight where you could see like his superpowers kind of come out they don't have superpowers but they kind of have super strength and samuel jackson just wants to shoot him nick fury i don't know why i'm calling samuel nick fury just wants to shoot him and talus is like don't know why I'm calling him Samuel. Nick Fury just wants to shoot him, and Talos is like, no, no. I want to be the guy to do it.

No, no. Eventually, Nick Fury just shoots the guy. He's like, fuck, I wanted to be the guy to kill him. I don't really know why he wanted to be the guy to kill him so bad. Was he just like he wanted to get some aggression out? He didn't want his partner to steal his kill like Call of Duty? What was going on there? Yeah, that was the perfect way to put it, Bob.

It felt like a Call of Duty. Like, dude dude i was one away from a kill streak here maybe just wanted to get the um like it's like you get seven humans killed whatever but you get that scroll like that is the legit you took down someone with like a you know i don't even know what a good ranking is a call of duty 100 200 is that even a good one anymore i think that's way too high 60 i was gonna 60 yeah okay i was gonna say 60 i could be wrong but that's way too high 60 i was gonna 60 yeah okay i was gonna say 60 i could be wrong but that's what i guess so it was either that but it did feel like there was something more to it right because yeah so this is this was one of my favorite parts of it the way uh and i i wrote fury but it was more of samuel jackson anything the way he was sitting

down he has the gun. You got one line, not going to give you two. That was jewels from Pulp Fiction for a minute there. That was exactly what I said to my girlfriend. I said, that is a Pulp Fiction ass line from Samuel Jackson. Give us more of that in the show. And I'll be satisfied with six episodes that are just like this one.

Just give us some monologues. Like we got out of what's his name? Scars guard in Andor Lutheran. When he had that, you know, I sleep with ghosts and everything. Give us one of those out of Samuel L. Jackson. Give us a good scene out of Olivia Colman. And then just give us some more jewels from Pulp Fiction because that was awesome. Yeah.

The big kahuna burger. I mean, what would that be in Moscow? The big ruski burger or something like that? Well, he passed a shawarma truck, as Heavy Spoilers pointed out, which is a nice little shout to the first Avengers. I had never had shawarma until like maybe two or three years ago. What a good frigging meal. It's, yeah, even after a potential Avengers event, the first Avengers event, I guess you could say, right? And even the line of questioning,

when she's like, she lives in Miami with a soccer player. But I just love that that was how they added him out. I was very proud. Anytime I catch a Skrull from the jump, like that's a Skrull, I feel so good about it right now. And I'm going to feel really bad when I say it's a Skrull, the Susslist, and then it's just some, they shoot them, and it's just straight's just straight human just on the ground dead and not morphing back but

that one felt good that guy was kind of a scumbag you know he they sleazed it up to make us all feel good about it but let's you're right though bob my brain is basically in like a jumbled knot the entire time trying to figure out who to trust give me a couple just samuel jackson like even next episode make him be uh the samuel jackson character from uh like goodfellas or something you can mix it up i don't have to i will not yeah jackie brown i will not complain if it's all fiction either i fucking love fiction it's probably one of my five favorite movies um but it was just kind of nice to see jules come out man jules is so fucking cool man he also had one of my favorite lines i think it was a bit earlier when they were talking about how Talos is like 140

he's like I am not even 40 on earth years like I'm entering my midlife crisis what'd you get and he goes the Avengers it's like oh yeah fuck yeah Samuel throw that card down and then we get the big bombing scene. Or not yet, actually. Samuel L. kills this girl. They run after Gaia, who's got the – that's Emilia Clarke's character. She's got the bomb. She doesn't realize it's her. She doesn't realize it's him at first.

And he's like, stop right there or something. She's like, oh, that's what you always used to say to me when I was a kid. Your first shot, you'll hear something like that. He says like the first – Something like that, yeah. Or something, yeah. And this is the little girl from Captain marvel which is kind of cool see her all grown up and everything they reunite and then he lets her get away in a scene where i was just like what the fuck like i get that it's your daughter you can't kill her you can't let her run away with the bomb in her backpack though and then she brings it to the bombing and fucking what do you know the bomb

goes off at the bombing and it was cool how they set it up with the the new villain gravic where he's morphing into all of the people we've seen throughout the episode that kind of were giving nick fury weird looks very cool very ominous even just the look that gravic gave as has not as himself but as his normal human form at the end. Very just eerie. So I thought that was a cool way to end it. Maria Hill gets shot. I think this is the real Maria Hill.

I think she's dead. I don't think this was a scroll unless the next episode begins with her morphing into one. But she really got won over on people too. Colby Smulders. She came out and said, like, i added so much depth to the maria hill character in this series i can't wait to see you guys uh watch it unfold over six episodes and then boom dead bullet to the gut that was tough r.i.p my dog maria hill uh maybe i guess we'll see what happens next episode but it does feel like she's she's cooked and again it's like

will she turn? I hope we just start off with her morphing into a Skrull, because listen, that hits me doubly right there. Like, Maria Hill, I didn't watch she was in all the S.H.I.E.L.D. stuff, right? Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and all that. I don't even know if she was in all of it. But she was obviously, she's been around for fucking

ever in the Marvel Universe. I'm also a How I Met Your Mother guy, and that seeing Robin Shabatsky, you know, go out like that, man, it fucking hurts. Robin Shabatsky, she might have been a fucking double agent at some point, too. She's about that life. She doesn't give a fuck. Even though she's like a Canadian pop star,

she would be smoking cigars and drinking bourbon. She's fucking, she's cut from a different cloth, so that was tough to watch. Why the fuck didn't nick fury just shoot the guy there's bombs going off just shoot the fucking ass you know and charlie and if you hit a human guess what that human's probably gonna get blown up by another bomb in like three seconds no that last part i can't cosign no i was with you i was with you when you said just shoot the guy

until you said if you just shoot another human, so be it. It'll probably get bombed. That's Thanos talk. That's like, Hey, 50% has got to go anyway. I'm doing it for the greater good. That's all I'm saying.

That's what Thanos would say as well. I realized also shout out to my, my boy, the T-man. This is the first time in a while there was like legit gravity about the snap, the blip people coming back, how it affected everything.

I mean, Nick Fury has taken a lot of shit for, the blip, people coming back, how it affected everything. I mean, Nick Fury has taken a lot of shit for it. And it's like that's something you don't think of. Like how would you come back from the blip, especially someone with all the pelts he has on the wall, and being like, yeah, there was some big purple dude who just was like, nah, I'm just going to take – shove your well-lit plans up your well-lit ass basically, right? Like that's exactly what he did. Another thing about the blip, I saw a tweet about this that i actually really agree with i think the blip's a really stupid name for it i like i i got used to it for a little bit and then it was really jarring it hit my ear

like a train wreck in this episode when they were like having that serious discussion about losing wives and being different since the blip it's like like the snap sounds so much better i'm i'm with you but the only people in the universe the only person in the universe i guess that knows it was a snap was thor because thanos is dead and thor prize well thor might have said he snapped his fingers that's all i know and then paul rudd uh scott lang wrote a book about it no yeah that's that's true we can excuse it we could get it out there but now it's too late now it is the blip the blip was created by a private news agency like the day after it happened and then people just just ran with it right and it it feels it feels

like it wasn't a blip i feel like a blip is a quick thing it was five years it felt like a i guess it felt like a blip to some people well yeah exactly and then also like it just happened it was like boom it flipped and then everyone just started turning in the dust you just like yeah what happened but for the other half it wasn't a blip it was more of like the disappearance that's too many syllables yes uh what was the name of that show um where there's an hb it was an hbo show where they like the um the people oh it was a damon lindelof show the leftovers the leftovers yeah did it was that called the happening or the was was there some sort of thing like that it's saying the people were just called the left like

the people that were left they called the leftovers i don't know if they called it something in the show i never watched that show uh yeah but i just got your trivia question right that was a question for me that was really impressive bob god knows like you can tell since i don't know that that is zd's blind spot is tv basically of the 2000s we are just not very good at it so i have two questions coming off of this episode the first one is shannon carter a scroll i think without a doubt she is she had that weird behavior in falcon and the winter soldier with which this is sort of connected to right like in that espionage spy way takes place in europe a little bit um i think she's a scroll and then my second question will we get julia louis dreyfus allegra d fontaine in this show head of the cia

ross's ex-wife i think she could have set up thunderbolts or captain america 4 in this as well yeah um i'm with you on all that and that's the thing is i will be interested how much stuff going back will then be like oh shit this was this was scroll that was scroll um i hope there's not anything that like i hope none of our heroes were a scroll during end game that would fuck me up which one would fuck you up the most that's the most like like realistic i was gonna say scrolls can't the thing about scrolls is they don't take on the power of these superheroes so it would have to be like a roadie or someone in a suit or you know they

couldn't be captain america because he wouldn't be worthy so like a realistic one i don't i don't know i don't know who is real scott lang that'd be weird no but he turned into giant man so they wouldn't be able to do that i'm trying to think like even um he kind of like fights uh the hulk but like bruce banner how he couldn't turn to Hulk. But he actually was Hulk in the beginning. Well, actually, Scott Lang, I guess, could be a Skrull, but not throughout Quantumania. I don't know. I don't know who.

This show is just going to put my brain just running in circles. Oh, what if fucking Black Widow was a Skrull and it was a soul for a soul but the scroll version of her died a soul for a scroll oh that's the hashtag for this week hashtag soul for a scroll i like that all right this was the first uh secret invasion recap i thought it was a good episode i wouldn't call it a great episode but it certainly left me intrigued for the rest of this show you know we'll be here for every episode of it but now i'll be thinking about it throughout the week i'll be thinking about scrolls i'll be thinking about you know i see someone act weird i see someone give me a side eye in the office i'll be thinking scroll if aj comes home from school today and it's nice

to me i'll be like scroll yeah that's kind of how how we're going with and listen guys we're trying to figure this out if you have any like tips on how to spot a scroll or just like point us in the general direction like that's what i realized with house of the dragon when people start to be like oh no you have to see it from this angle we then were able to get better with it so if like or maybe we'll have to ask jose like one day like hey what should we we gotta get him back think of all this just so then we can not be because at some point we're going to start spouting off theories and they're probably going to be so goddamn wrong so if anything you guys can do to help us we're all ears um but yeah all in all cool show going in with like tempered expectations just because of the kind of show it

is but i mean if it's as fun as the first episode and worst best case scenario it's the andor of marvel like it's fucking rock absolutely we'll see you next week make sure to like and subscribe and comment down below if you're on the podcast feed you could subscribe there as well we'll be back next thursday with another secret invasion recap