My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 289 - SECRET INVASION EPISODE 2 WITH CLEM

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

Robbie and Clem discuss and break down Episode 2 of Marvel's 'Secret Invasion' and the BOMBSHELL that ends it! #SecretInvasion #MarvelStudios #MCU 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete... order at 3Chi.com! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello, and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by 3C and Barstool Sports, or is this even My Mom's Basement, presented by 3C and Barstool Sports? I am your host, Robbie Fox, or am I? This is my co-host, Clem, or is it? And we're here to talk about Secret Invasion, episode two today. This is a show that did not premiere to the most amazing numbers. It's,
Starting point is 00:00:31 I believe, second lowest behind Ms. Marvel. The numbers came out this week. It was a big talking point in the nerd world. It's a very good show though. Still, through two episodes, am I hooked? Am I captivated? Am I on the edge of my seat waiting for next week no i'm not this does sort of feel like the b story of a good marvel movie of a winter soldier feels like we're cutting to nick fury and talos doing their stuff but through two episodes i'm enjoying it and if this is just a platform and a vehicle to give don cheadle and sam Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Mendelsohn and Olivia Colman like badass, cool, great acting monologues, so be it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:10 The ratings didn't even clear a million the first week. Is that right? I think it was like 354 or something. We had someone, a listener, who reached out and was like, what they have to do is release these at like Sunday at 9. So it's not like my kids are in the background, which is something I go around with as I'm watching this at 9am or it just doesn't have a feel to it.
Starting point is 00:01:31 It doesn't have a vibe. And if you're not going to just do the whole dump and watch it your own, like you could binge it. I think it deserves to be Sunday at nine. Cause at some point you're going to run up to HBO when they're just throwing a fucking, you know, home run hitter at you. But, like, right now, it would kind of work. Like, HBO, what's that show that had The Weeknd in it?
Starting point is 00:01:50 It's being canned after five episodes. Oh, The Idol. The Idol, yeah. Like, right now, it's like, hey, that band, check out fucking, we got Samuel L. Jackson. We got, like, you just throw the actors out there you disney should just have an ad where it's just like samuel jackson don cheadle uh the chick who played calise like everyone knows amelia clark but you can even say the chick who played calise and you put all these names up there and they're like secret invasion don't even put marvel out there and you might just get a couple people like oh
Starting point is 00:02:19 fuck disney's releasing a monster show right now and you know what maybe they figure out what's going on. Maybe they don't, but it's better than nine. You get a couple more viewers than 954,000. I think we could agree on that. This secret invasion recap is brought to you by 3G. Or is it? No, it is. Of all the things in life, one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want,
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Starting point is 00:03:53 That's BASEMENT15, all caps. Must be 21 or older to purchase. Please use responsibly. Now let's get back into this secret invasion recap. Absolutely. Did you like the second episode, though? I thought it was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 So this is starting for me the way Andor did, which is almost unfair to say because there's no I don't think there's a way. It's gonna be very hard for this to reach the highs that Andor did in the end. But remember, in Andor, I was kind of like, first, I was like, yeah, I'm in. It's like some fun stuff. It feels like a grown up version of the other shows and movies we've watched in this universe so I'm in on it it's like they said though like the acting's awesome there's definitely some cool stuff that they can do here and it's going to set up a lot of cool stuff for the future but the problem with I think Marvel shows in general and the whole superhero fatigue which I'm now fatigued of the superhero fatigue line it's like you have to eat your vegetables at some point and they're
Starting point is 00:04:50 not giving us like we're not getting the pizza we're not getting the ice cream sundae at least at some point you got a fucking Avengers movie that just blew your fucking mind or you're getting this like standalone superhero movie that was awesome And it does feel like we're not really getting that in the connected world. Obviously, Guardians was awesome. But we're not getting that with all these like, Bob, listen, we've been doing a lot of reviews on this show. And this is probably one of the better shows. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:05:18 This is probably one of the better shows if you're stacking them in terms of the quality of it all. But I need to get some payoff. so i'm hoping it's coming i feel like we are moving along though based on what we've learned this episode so i i liked it didn't love it uh i feel like that's just gonna be me i'm not an espionage guy in general um unless you want to pull the shit they did in android yeah i feel like captain america 4 might be that movie for this phase of Marvel. I hope it is at least, I hope it's that civil war type feel where you bring everything in.
Starting point is 00:05:51 We know that we're getting Harrison Ford in it. We know that we're getting like some, maybe some payoff to the eternal stuff, the hand in the ocean people said might pay off in Captain America four. Who knows? Hopefully that does, you know, bridge the gap. Cause like you said,
Starting point is 00:06:03 the disconnectedness, the no connectivity between this phase, it's very weird, especially considering there's so much content in it. There's as much content in this phase as there was in the previous three, but it doesn't feel like it's clicking the way the previous three did with a lot more resources, a lot more opportunities and avenues to cater to the diehard fans. I don't know what they're doing over there with the whiteboard but break out the dry erase marker yeah yeah maybe the
Starting point is 00:06:31 eraser a little bit too if you have to do some stuff and be like oh this shit doesn't really matter we're just gonna erase this or we're gonna put it in big font to smaller font which goes from like we said 10 part series to special presentation one time only for an hour uh which i think they're they're kind of doing and i hope that's what uh because they can only write off so much whatever the fuck write off means we're still not sure there's only so much money disney can write off for things that aren't going to crush uh but yeah it's i'm just worried we're we're gonna be putting in more time for just like, because I didn't realize it. Did the first episode have the flashbacks with all the stuff with the
Starting point is 00:07:10 scrolls or did, was that just this episode? It was just this episode. And I thought that was kind of weird too. Like obviously people like you and me, we get the backstory. We saw Captain Marvel. We, we know all that, but to wait till episode two to give the previously on very strange very strange and listen my daughter was watching she i don't think she watched captain marvel at least uh like
Starting point is 00:07:30 a lot of i think she kind of just like tapped out after a while when we first watched it and she's like oh like so that's what's going on with all these weird green guys on my screen and again it's like oh between that movie and then this show, so much fucking shit has happened in the Marvel universe. You know, the people in it and then the people outside it. So it's like, you can't just be like, hey, remember that shit back in 95, 97, and now we're jumping ahead now. It's just a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I understand they had to kind of tell the backstory of Gap and all that stuff. But again, it just feels like we're putting together a puzzle and we're just in the corners right now. There's nothing in the middle. There's nothing like, you know, in the heart of it, even the bottom, we're just putting corners together. And at this point, I'm like, yo, motherfucker, just throw down and like, give us some big pieces.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Then it's like, boom, boom, boom. Oh shit. That's coming together. And it looks pretty awesome, which, for the record, might have already happened. And then, like, the guy who was going to be a big part of that kind of became, like, potentially a real problem for the MCF. Although I heard there's good news on that front this week. I heard that things swung for Jonathan Majors
Starting point is 00:08:37 in a direction that's positive for him, whatever that means. I don't know if the damage is already done, but, yeah, whatever that means. So let's get into the episode. Like you you said we start a little earlier this one we give the 1995 flashback and then they jump ahead to 1997 to brixton where we see a young nick fury meeting a young gravic and he's as a scroll still and nick fury is putting together i don't want to say like a team he's you know it's not the avengers here but he's putting together a group of scrolls that will help protect earth while fury and talos find them a new world
Starting point is 00:09:12 and he is told you know this kid is very brave he's not your average kid he's like ah should i let him in he's he's literally a kid talks to him for a little bit he's like are you afraid he's like not at all so he allows it swears them all in they all uh assume human identities this is the scroll thing they assume a human identity there's good scrolls there's bad scrolls we don't know which one is which if anyone at barstool has been a scroll for the past five years who do you think it could be this is why the basement boys work bob because i was going to bring this up on my own and i forgot all about it i want everyone in the comments today's comment section um game give us who at barstool is most likely to be a scroll and give your explanation and we're
Starting point is 00:10:00 going to give a prize tbd prize unless you have something at the edge of your tongue tbd prize to the one that gets the most upvotes so give it just give a name give a reasoning can be pretty basic i have a guy it's a good question right i thought of this one so there's two people i thought of one is frank but oh frank the tank i think frank would just tell you he's a scroll though like hey i'm a motherfucking troll what do you want me to say like i feel like frank would have just told us at some point that he was a scroll like because like with frank's and he has his like moments of weakness and he's like done with his like whatever rant he's on they're like yeah like i palm the nugget like i know what i did here uh i have a real one, though. I honestly think Nick Tarani is a Skrull.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Oh, why? Dude just showed up one day, just hanging out with Kyle, right? And KB, I mean, KB, Skrull, I don't know what KB is in general as well, but, like, just showed up. Nicest dude you'll ever meet. Fucking, you get in conversation about basically anything with him. He adds so much to the conversation. Funny just a good overall person i love being around that guy and the more i like you the more i'm sussy these days within scroll land so nick
Starting point is 00:11:14 tarani is my scroll and honestly i have to be convinced that he's not a scroll at this point i'm like really kind of i'm happy he's going to chicago now because i don't when the scroll invasion kicks off in our world i i don't know if I want to be near the scrolls. What about you? Who's your, you know, my guess is, uh, someone real close to the heart, someone that I keep close. It's my big screaming honkers teammate, Chris Clemmer. I think he could be a scroll. You see his compact mode. You see his fart noise noise he's got a lot of really strange hidden abilities and i feel like that is scroll behavior right there obviously you've seen his finger he's got a long finger uh people haven't seen it it's it's et-ish i had him on the rundown today and he
Starting point is 00:11:58 posed as the gargoyle on command basically on on the chair so there's a lot of alien tendencies about that man um extraterrestrial tendencies and yeah like if it's not scroll behavior it's cree it's some sort of fucking you know someone in that database that uh amelia was looking at at the end of the episode for sure also if we just expand it beyond barstool to the real world i feel like there's a decent chance that kanye has been a scroll for the past couple years uh and tom cruise definite scroll thousand percent yeah oh shit tom cruise is a scroll you see the picture today he went to like he went somewhere just to take pictures with movie tickets he's like look at this a double feature and it was barbie and oppenheimer he's holding the ticket in front like he's rob low with an nfl hat yeah he's he's really hit like a new phase
Starting point is 00:12:46 with this saving the movie industry ever since top gun 2 came out and you know you just think about the oprah stuff on the couch and you know i mean i'm not he might literally be considered a scroll in his religion i don't know how that stuff works i'm also gonna just leave it there i don't want to get this i don't want to get you in trouble. I don't get myself in trouble. I don't want to get Parsifal in trouble. But yeah, I think there is a chance like he is a Skrull or Skrull adjacent being. So Fury tells Gravik, listen, you stay true to your word. I'm going to stay true to mine. And that's important.
Starting point is 00:13:18 So remember that for later. And we go right back to the bombing last week in Moscow. Gaia gets into a car with Gravik, Fury, and a guy screaming, I'm an American, I'm an American. They get tossed into some vans by Talos. Talos is in the front. Guards are asking for Fury on the train because he's there. It's weird that he was there, an American in Moscow during the bombing, basically framing him. And Talos covers for him.
Starting point is 00:13:41 He's like, are you kidding me? You think a black man would be spotted on this train? You'd be better off looking for an alien or something like that. It turns covers for him. He's like, you kidding me? You think a black man would be spotted on this train? You'd be better off looking for an alien or something like that. It turns back into him. And then we get the first really well-acted scene of the episode where Fury tells Talos about going on train rides with his mother as a kid.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And they would play the game. Tell me something I don't know about blah, blah, blah. And he says, tell me something I don't know about the destruction blah he says tell me something i don't know about the destruction of scrollos he's like you know all there is to know about it fury you know and that little ben mendelsohn voice and everything he reveals that all of the scrolls are now on earth all million scrolls so we have one million scrolls on earth at it you know at eight billion it's a small sample size but there's a lot of fucking scrolls a million and he he's like i didn't know if you were ever coming back so i thought your rule of
Starting point is 00:14:29 only a couple people could come to the party was thrown out the window i invited everyone to the party and now it's fucking project x on earth fury did the thing where he was like you know i'm just gonna put my feet up and relax a little like he was burnt out at work and just did his thing. And everything came tumbling down. Even when like young Gravix looking at him and now based on like what he said in that meeting to what happened when he disappeared and whatever changed about him has really, it's like the first time you catch your parents lying to you and you're like, well, I'll never trust you again now.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And that's a tough look. And it's completely made his turn to like a villain completely justified because we've all been there before where it's like, this motherfucker told me something. That's why when I tell the kids, I'm going to like, if you do this, you get five minutes to YouTube.
Starting point is 00:15:18 If you go back on that, you are putting yourself in a world of fucking pain. And my guy, Fury basically did that to himself. That was a good back and forth with him and talus on the train the tell me something i don't know game at one point he turned into jewels again from from fiction in my mind and i'm like oh god here he is and he's telling and by the way the thought that chicken that chicken must have tasted so fucking good when he's just explaining it and it didn't even like make it like five minutes on the train i was like oh man i want some chicken right now i'm not a deviled eggs guy but uh there was a lot of stuff i could just dig into um i didn't really get to
Starting point is 00:15:53 like put this into proper perspective at the last at the end of the last episode what the fuck gaia what the fuck happened did we ever get an explanation like i thought she was on our side i thought all was good maria hill's fucking dead that actually happened um or were we just off on gaia did i trust her too much i feel like i trusted her too much did i trust her did you trust her i trusted her because i'm thinking oh it's talus's daughter she was great in the movie is that the next thing i'm sure that she's going through a hard time the loss of her mother is a tough time for scrolls in the world but she's not going to do anything that will lead to the death of say maria hill and then she did
Starting point is 00:16:38 something that led to the death of maria hill and you see they load her casket onto the plane fury has to have that conversation with her mom but the mom's like they won't even fucking tell me where my daughter died on this earth like what the fury tells her and everything another like great acted scene tough conversation to have though oh my god he's breaking the news to the mother being like yeah they were really coming after me and she's like so you're the reason we're shipping my daughter home in a box he's like yeah and the whole time him not wearing the eye patch it kind of makes everything a little more a little more raw him raw dog in the eye and in the free air yeah i actually like had such a like cop out by fury he's like i'm not gonna wear the eye patch
Starting point is 00:17:19 today i think it's gonna give me a little like get out of jail free guard a little i'm gonna like that just samuel jackson being like dude i'm tired of wearing this eye patch my eyesight's going bad in one eye now i like that i like that i'm telling you that's fury man he's like if you want to get like like elizabeth hill man she hurts man she was cutting deep with that stuff if he's wearing the eye patch she goes even and she might she might slap him if he was wearing the eye but without the eye patch, she goes even. She might slap him if he was wearing the eye patch. But without the eye patch, I don't think you can, like, the eye patch is a sign of, like, a disability or something wrong with you. When you see the actual eye, though, it's like you're literally staring it right in the face.
Starting point is 00:17:57 So that's even worse almost, I think. So that was actually a good move. Like, sometimes if I just want to take the elevator instead of, like, taking stairs or, like, a really long subway stop or something, throwing a little limp there to be like, you know, it's not because I'm just being lazy. I'm a little, I'm a little hurt. I'm a little dinged up. That's what Fury's doing. He's like, Hey, remember this? He's like your daughter may be dead, but not like my eyes been dead for fucking like decades now. So good move.
Starting point is 00:18:20 The old Kaiser Soze. Yeah, exactly. You hit a limp. limp also fury like you ever see like an old dog like when their eyes get all like they get like boogery and crusty and they got cataracts i feel like fury's eye should be that at some point like maria hill should be or elizabeth hill should have to like dab goo out of his eye with a napkin or something like oh you gotta get this i mean you can't tell me bill cosby's people didn't do that to him after all that shit came out because that motherfucker came back from like his core trial and he looked like a fucking ghost dad you two just fucking like pale white eyes you're like
Starting point is 00:18:54 what the fuck where did that happen from and like that's a pr move and nick fury fucking knows what he's doing i i give also i didn't realize this until the train. Strong fucking beard by Fury, too. Yeah. Real strong beard. Real strong beard. The beard, the hat combo. I love it all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So speaking of PR, the PR works and Americans against Russia are blamed for the attack. Russia is expected to retaliate soon. We hear it on the news from Shooter McGavin. Shooter McGavin has joined the mcu stunning he's someone i think of obviously from happy gilmore first and then second i think of from the barstool miami super bowl party that got flooded and there's just a video of him sitting in the middle of the flood trying to get an uber it's one of the funniest videos we've ever put out dude i just wrote shooter mcgavin with an exclamation point in my notes i didn't even know what else to add to that i just couldn't believe it i was like i was like wait is
Starting point is 00:19:49 this guy has he already been in the mcu because he feels like a guy who could have been there at some point it also feels like he could have been a j jonah jameson in one of the universes the way he was playing up that like fox news role or whatever it was supposed to be. But yeah, I'm happy he's here. I'd love for him to be a bigger role, but he's always going to be Shooter McGavin no matter what he does. What's his other, was he in Clue? I think he might've been in Clue, yeah. Yeah, so like Christopher McDonald.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I don't know what else he was in, but he's always. What's his? Click on his IMDb and give us his top four, most known for. Yeah, Thelma and Louise. Never saw. Haven't seen it. Quiz Show. Okay, I haven't seen that, but I know people rave about it. People say Quiz Show is great.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Obviously, Happy Gilmore. And then number four on the list, Harry's Law, a TV show from 2011 with Kathy Bates that had 32 episodes. That's a tough number four there. He was the Cowboys owner in Ballers, apparently. I kind of remember he was like a Jerry Jones kind of a guy. That's a tough number four, though. He has to get someone at IMDb to fix that up a little.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I mean, maybe this could be his guy, like, dickhead, you know, propaganda scroll in Secret Invasion. I don't know what else he could be. But I feel like he has some other things. He's in Grumpy Old Men, Mike. Don't remember that, but that was a fun movie. He was in one episode of Home Improvement. He's always Shooter.
Starting point is 00:21:23 As much as this bums me out, he's always Shooter McGavin, no matter what he does. So as much as it this bums me out he's always shooter mcgavin no matter what he does so i almost prefer it this way so he can always like again little finger versus karketty the wire in game of thrones it's such a thing where he fucks your mind up where it goes one way or the other the fact that he is so shooting mcgavin it just makes it even easier for me to um kind of just dismiss him as, do you think we get them again? Maybe once the rest of the season, maybe once more, but the next scene,
Starting point is 00:21:50 you know, like we can get into it. Like the next scene, they elect graphic to scroll general. I feel like his purpose was mostly served by that. Yeah. Oh, he was also Joe DiMaggio in, in the bronx is burning which i kind of
Starting point is 00:22:08 remember i was like oh shooter like he's got his i haven't seen the bronx is burning oh yeah it's pretty it's a good one i definitely jerry yankees fan obviously i definitely i definitely would check that out um yeah by the way they come they come with i don't know if it's the scene the next scene or this scene the numbers in terms of murders is i don't know if it's the scene, the next scene or this scene, the numbers in terms of murders is, I don't know if it's just Moscow or everything combined. 2,000 murders. And that's just the bodies they found, they said? Yeah. That's the first thing I thought of.
Starting point is 00:22:35 9-11 at 2,996. This is like a 9-11 level fucking. And they said the numbers are going to triple by the time we clear all the rubble and everything. They had a line where they said the numbers are going to triple by the time we clear all the rubble and everything. They had a line where they said the numbers will probably triple. So we're talking 6,000 people dead. This is an insane, insane terrorist attack. They undersold it. They undersold it.
Starting point is 00:22:56 They did. They completely – and, like, you see the – how I knew that scene was, like, oh, fuck, is when the explosion happens. And you see that one old lady kind of just get like flown up like she like flies and I was like oh yeah exactly she gets heated big time and then it's like oh my poor Maria is gone is she gone maybe that's
Starting point is 00:23:17 it maybe they should have just had Maria completely like blown apart and it's clearly not a Skrull and then be like look at all these other people that are dead there because all I'm thinking about is the one person who may or may not be dead it completely undersold that fucking and now it makes sense if i'm fucking russia i'm like yeah we're going to war motherfuckers let's ride yeah they needed a line where someone had to say this is like two 9-11s that would have like put it into perspective for all the dummies out there and been like holy shit the problem for them is it's like or this is a a one, one trillionth of a snap of a blip.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And they're like, everything probably seems like nothing these days to these people now. Because it's like, ah, a couple thousand. Who cares? How many people died in the Battle of New York? The civilians, you know? Yeah, right. That's true. I'm sure a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So Gravik tells Gaia he just wanted to see what was left of Fury. That's why he brought him out. They just wanted to see what was left of fury that's why he brought him out they just wanted to see what was left of them they go to that secret meeting with the scroll council and at first everyone's like we got to punish you these numbers are insane you can't just take control of our entire species and basically start a war and he explains everything on his behalf on his perspective his villain mindset where he thinks he's the good guy he's like fury abandoned us he said stay true to our word he'll stay true to his he hasn't stayed true to his it's been what 30 years almost 30 years now we don't have a new home let's just take this home we we
Starting point is 00:24:36 like earth we don't like the humans and they had that line with the dogs which i loved with gravic being like i actually like dogs a lot more than humans. They're not hypocrites. They're not liars. They're not this. They're not that. And he says, I'm just speeding up the inevitable. The war is going to happen. I'm just making sure it happens now in our lifetime for our generation. And they're like, oh, that's got a point.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And they vote him scroll general right on the spot. They let the one girl leave because she's like, this is fucking crazy. You're all fucking crazy. I'm getting out of here. So they let her leave. But other than than that we got a new scroll general this was the kind of thing where like this was a good scene well acted scene i feel like we could have started the show with gravic as scroll general and we wouldn't have lost anything you know you could have just cut out time by doing that that's a very fair point that's a great point rob um i'm with you on that for sure i also would have liked if we could have had one marvel a character from the mcu that we know
Starting point is 00:25:32 that isn't a superhero or isn't like super important but just being like oh fuck that person's a scroll because i think that like obviously it's like the prime minister of fucking you know the uk uh the the head of NATO or whatever, shoot her motherfucking McGavin, one of the greatest golfers of all time. And then obviously our boy Gravik here. And then the lady who walked out. And it also gives you like an insight into Gravik
Starting point is 00:25:56 and I think the Scrolls of General where it's like, nope, she's not going to be harmed. Like they're not going to do some Putin shit unless she's like eat some soup and then she fucking turns green and is dead. I actually, I did appreciate that um for real so i don't know man do you say putin yeah he's like like like putin would be like you can leave the room you will not be hung i think it's what i'm saying i think it's oh putin putin i feel like I usually call him Putin. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Putin is funny. Like Pew Putin. Pew Putin. Oh, you know what's probably is? I've been reading this fucking other guy's name in the news all week. P. P. Garoff or whatever the fuck his name is.
Starting point is 00:26:37 The guy who marched Wagner up the. You know, you didn't. I don't read the news. We thought we thought Russia was going to civil war on Saturday. It was a whole thing, Bob. It was wild. It was like two hours, but it was. Oh, I saw. I saw a little bit of that Wagner group. It was a whole thing, Bob. It was wild. It was like two hours, but it was a really crazy time. I saw a little bit of that Wagner group.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I was asking Jack, who's the Wagner group? I was with Jack Mack, so he tried to explain it to me, and I nodded like I understood, but I didn't understand. I didn't get it at all. You didn't understand it at all. Yeah, that's right. So Gravik is given a hero's welcome at the power plant. It goes back to the base of all the scrolls new scrollos and he tells
Starting point is 00:27:05 someone head down gaia follows they head down to this weird area where you can tell there's experiments going on there's a big machine gaia overhears them talking about the harvest oh the harvest it was wrong it's not where gravix said it was so things are afloat things are fishy and then we cut to roadie testifying on behalf of fury and hill because as i said earlier things were fishy with the americans being there he gets a lot of allegedly speaking this he's like listen allegedly they're allegedly whoa whoa it's hearsay uh conjuncture objection overruled they have one of those scenes everyone is thinking right now online at least that roadie is a scroll i'm seeing a lot of people saying he seems like the most obvious one i think there's a
Starting point is 00:27:54 chance that's true now if he is a scroll climb when did roadie become one was it pre or post end game that's the you know the bc adl set pre or post end game i feel like pre-end game you you lose something because he didn't get to say goodbye to tony stark post end game you have that but it's not as shocking it doesn't like it doesn't hurt you know if he became a scroll two weeks before secret invasion, the show started. So I don't know. It makes sense to heat the scroll road. He could still do enough in that suit to make it work.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Right. Where you're not having like four coming down. It's like, Oh, this guy is able to wheel lightning and, you know, pick up Mjolnir. It's like, no, this. So. Imagine he became a scrolled like before he even broke his legs Rhodey's just walking around somewhere wow
Starting point is 00:28:49 yeah he that would be nice I'm kind of hoping that's the case for our boy now I'm kind of hoping that this poor Skrull had to like deal with some shit in order to like make his way into the government and into the Avengers and all this kind of stuff and that's I feel like
Starting point is 00:29:04 saying goodbye to your best friend and being able to walk or like it's a fair trade off in the end. Right. It's like, and also, you know, he lost the ability to walk, but he got to see the Tony stank moment with Stan Lee.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That would have to be worth it. Yep. Yep. All right. So fury and roadie meet, and this was the best scene in the episode. I thought where fury tells him all about the scrolls he tells him what's going on and roadie reveals that that meeting them being there
Starting point is 00:29:31 them being there as friends as fury thought it's them basically there as uh fiery and fire because roadie fires nick fury he's like i'll tell you what this is this is a friend coming down here to fire another friend who he's known for 20 years or whatever and oh my god one of the best nick fury lines of all time comes at the end of the scene where he's like you're out what do you not understand you're out whatever fury leans in he's like i'm nick fury even when i'm out i'm in and he just walks out i got chills up and down my spine i I was like, that's Samuel L at his best right there. What he did with that hat, when he took it and he kind of smoothed out, Brody was cooked.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Brody took the L as soon as he should have knocked the hat on the floor because once Samuel got that hat back in his hand and, like, forget about the line. The line was A-plus, and that was a fucking, like, and like, forget about the line. The line was a plus. And that was a fucking, like he'd be probably wins with just the line, the line and the hat. Boom. Rhodey, Rhodey better be a skull because Rhodey just died in my eyes. So hopefully that's who just got murdered in cold blood by Nick Fury.
Starting point is 00:30:37 He, he fucking like, he said no to his firing. He fucking blocked it. He said, it's like, kind of like Hank, when Dave fired Hank back in the day and Hank just kept showing up up to work nick fury's like no i'm nick fury i'll fire i'll fire you and then i'll fire myself and then i'll be like i can't i'm nick fury you can't fire nick fury and then i'll fire you for that and he still doesn't it doesn't stick because fucking i'm nick fury i'm rubber you're glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you that fucking hat move was unbelievable oh man i i don't know i really love that fucking hat trick and it's like you see people they'll kind of just do the hat
Starting point is 00:31:09 they'll put their hand on it he straightened it out and it was fucking yeah magnifico and i also learned how to do that yeah i love the way um nick fury said the scrolls are the scrolls without saying scrolls he's like these green motherfuckers they'll make you looking like your daddy you know and he wasn't like there are these aliens from outer space which will make you sound like the dude from the uh ancient arts or the what's the what's the name of that show aliens ancient artifacts is that it ancient artifacts yeah he's like aliens shapeshifters get green they have pointy ears it would sound like like the guy from the first episode.
Starting point is 00:31:45 That's who you sound like, the Pepe Silvia. Like, I'm telling you, look, it's connected. It's all connected. Everyone you know is an alien. He adds a little bit of Ernie Hudson in him from Ghostbusters. He's like, I've seen shit that'll turn you white. They'll come and they'll look like your daddy. That just had me cracking up.
Starting point is 00:32:03 So Nick Fury brought the fucking thunder. Hey, like we are kind of, I thought about this during the episode today. We are kind of spoiled. Like Don Cheadle is such a good actor too. There's just so many good actors in this show. So if nothing else, we're going to get, you know, an acting fucking masterpiece every week for six weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So then we go to Olivia Coleman. Once again, the leader of the, is it MI6? She's the leader of like the British intelligence or government in some way. But she's operating like she's like Tony Soprano here. She goes in, she's like, walks into the back room of a butcher shop and they're torturing someone. They're torturing the guy who was at the bombing or whatever. She's like, let me take over. This is, let me take take it from here tell me where the escape pod is and everyone get out of the room and right away without even hesitating she chops a finger off with like a hedge clipper type scissors chops it right off slices it off like it was butter and it turns into a scroll finger so she's like oh good we got that out of the way quick now let's move on let's continue the torturing and she injects him with something that makes his blood literally boil from the inside you see his veins popping out of his skin for all the shit that marvel's been getting for bad cgi that was a fucked up looking cgi scene i don't know how they did it with the veins all like popping out of his skin it looked just as gross as it was supposed to though. And he reveals to her that graphic is building a machine to make the scroll
Starting point is 00:33:28 stronger. He's building something. It's going to make us all stronger. I assume that's what Amelia Clark walked in on before. Pretty dope scene for Olivia Coleman though. Badass. That's just all of the, the finger scene.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It's a little bit of Denzel man Man on Fire, where it's like, I'm just going to take care of my business quickly and painfully. And if you thought this was bad, what you're about to get is even worse. And then after that, I have a code. I might let you live if you give me what I want. I think that scene alone, I think she might be my favorite character in the series right now
Starting point is 00:34:03 because that was so fucking awesome. I guess there's really not a lot of competition she's the most badass song i've ever seen sonia blade held that title for years from from mortal combat this sonia trumps her just based on that scene alone turns your blood 160 degrees what are we even doing here jesus christ sonia, yeah, the cool special effects. That's one of those things you're like, I can't even fathom what's going on inside that dude's body. And great, and it's a scroll, so it's probably a little different. If our blood does that, I imagine we're just cooked.
Starting point is 00:34:35 We're just turned into a puddle of ooze, and we're just bubbling on the ground. But that was just, I don't know, man. That was badass. I love shit like that. I really do. I love just badass, like, good guy fucking up the bad guy kind of like interrogation scenes. Your boy does it in Dark Knight, right? And he doesn't even cut off a finger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Eats the piss out of the Joker. And the thing is, the Joker is the one dude who's like, there's nothing you do to really hurt me. You can't get anything from me. Yeah. That makes that. All right. I'm gonna have to watch Dark Knight again.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I love that fucking movie. Dark Knight. We got to go back to it. By the way, gonna have to watch dark night again i love that fucking also we gotta go back to it by the way uh we have to we have to apologize last episode we had a lot of people point us out i thank everyone in the comments tweets whatever um the reason talus didn't want nick fear to shoot the guy to scroll what's he didn't want to scroll to die so that was like something that i just wasn't we weren't taking the time makes sense so uh that one's on the basement boys. And I appreciate everyone chiming in, giving us the feedback,
Starting point is 00:35:27 or else I would have just went the rest of my life without any reason why that happened. I'm sure. We probably missed something this episode. Let us know in the comments whatever we missed. Now, Gaia's – this might have been what I missed because Gaia goes down. She Googles some stuff on a computer, and she sees Groot. The fuck was going on there? Was that DNA? that they had a groot dna in the computer so first of all the computer looks like it's like a 1993 compact presario which is awesome i just that gives me like my first um like you know internet ready computer like a gateway uh 3000
Starting point is 00:36:01 or whatever the hell it was i love i would love if the scrolls were still using the technology that came out the day that they had as like their main computers but we see groot we see uh that obsidian guy like you see a lot of different aliens i think that you know we've seen it they haven't seen you so far whether it's endgame obviously was it from thor yeah maybe the frost um for. Frost giant. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's just all known species. And I believe I'm splicing this together from I watched the heavy spoilers recap. And I believe what this machine is going to do is allow Skrulls to give themselves superpowers.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And in this case, it would be superpowers maybe from aliens. That's the one thing they can't do. Yes, exactly. so it's like well I know you're not fucking Groot because you're not having trees shoot out your fucking hands well he can now do that because we have Groot's DNA and you know Groot's DNA is like fucking you know everywhere it was sprinkled all over Zangar
Starting point is 00:36:58 it's fucking odd if you got if you got like hit with a splinter during the battle of Endgame when Stormbreaker was flying around or even in Infinity War war so there's enough crude dna i think which is kind of gross as i'm saying out loud uh so there's other things i'm sure there's other ways that they can get it out there and i do imagine this would be like the the scrolls getting powers side of things so that's what i'm taking it as in terms of what the guy said in terms of the machine and our girl guy going through the computer and being like all right what's our new boy here uh baido or whatever his name is he ready to rock
Starting point is 00:37:28 and roll he's ready for showtime so what happens if a scroll turns into groot but doesn't have his powers do they just look like a an adult dressed up as groot from party city yes that's exactly that's like that is exactly what they say in the Skrull training, too. They're like, you're just going to look like an adult from Party City. It's going to be kind of weird. It's cool, but trust me, it's like a really good Halloween costume, guys, and it only gets you so far if you're trying to turn this into our home planet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Do you think the Skrulls ever showed up to Disney wanting to dress up and Disney turned up, no costumes in the park, get out of here? I mean, we had that idea, too. that would have been a lot of fun yeah what if you but what if you dress up as mickey mouse turn into mickey mouse and then go in and be like hey i'm the fucking big guy i'm the i'm the head you know the head honcho and then i think right in the middle of of magic kingdom you see mickey versus mickey like captain america versus captain america i think they're just throw down. I guarantee there's like a, Disney already knows like imposter Mickey's. They have snipers everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Just ready to take out anyone that's trying to come in with a Mickey costume. They will kill your ass. Like that's the one thing they do not fuck with there. They already got the crosshairs on you through your window for doing the impression. I was gonna, I can't do it. I was just gonna try to do it. I was like, I can't do it i was just gonna try to do it i was like i can't do it you motherfucker don't you come into my goddamn kingdom that's me mickey mouse you're a fucking fake you fucking phony you're fucking dead you're fucking dead so gravity company arrived to break out the guy was being tortured coleman escapes as she kind of
Starting point is 00:39:04 you know laid her plan she wanted to know where the escape hatch was and then to the out the guy who was being tortured coleman escapes as she kind of you know laid her plan she wanted to know where the escape hatch was and then to the end the episode we see nick fury walk into a house and he walks in it looks like this is a house he's familiar with and we see a scroll cutting vegetables or cutting you know making dinner and then this girl turns into a human by the end of the episode nick fury walks right in he's like what's going on she's like not yet he's like oh sorry i forgot turns around goes puts on a wedding ring and comes back nick fury is married he has a wife he's been out here doing all this avenger shit like he's golfing you know four hour rounds out here telling the wife, oh, I can't come home.
Starting point is 00:39:45 He's got a wife during all this. You've got to be kidding me. Not only does he have a wife, our boy Nick is dipping that quill in a little scroll ink. You dog, Nick Fury. You dog. We're getting green out here, baby. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I didn't know he had it in him, but goddamn, Bob. I mean, I guess she has it in her. But that's just a physics thing. God bless. God bless. And hey, you know, love is love. Love to see it. And it kind of like hammers home the point.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Like, guys, listen, I am fucking riding for you. My goddamn wife. I'm like riding for her, too. I'm doing this. I wish only Gravik fucking knew. He was plugging Gravik's like auntie or whatever the hell she is and it would all be good yeah gravic you motherfucker i've been plugging your auntie since 1997 we went to that collective soul concert together you motherfucker and speaking of music did you hear what was playing in the background
Starting point is 00:40:41 what was it oh it's ready was playing in the background? What was it? Oh, it was – Redding was playing in the background, Rob. Oh, was it? Oh, yeah. Oh, fucking – And it's – Try a little tenderness, too. Maybe my favorite – Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So it's just – Oh, it was just so goddamn beautiful. So, yeah, man, I mean – What did you think of the revelation in general? I thought it was one of those that does it change a lot of things that we not does it change everything we know about fury no does it change a little bit of what we know about fury yes but i think it was a cool revelation like it doesn't ruin anything for me that he had a wife at home i just think it's like oh now like now they're hooking me now i want to learn a little bit more about this i'd like to see some
Starting point is 00:41:23 flashbacks give us a flashback of like him sitting you know in his boxers on the couch with his wife and he gets a call like a battle in new york's about to happen and he's like oh shit here we go puts on the eye patch and gets going yeah i will this might explain why he was so fucked up maybe she got snapped or she stayed there and married someone else like there could be some because obviously he got snapped so if he was there and she got snapped we might have had a situation in our hand where he got so fucked up about it right but i'm thinking maybe this could be and then i was like does he know she's a scroll because we see we know she's a scroll and then i'm like this fury knows she's a scroll and i'm like i think i would imagine she does
Starting point is 00:42:03 because i would imagine yeah but. I would imagine, yeah. But that would have been even funnier. Like, let's be honest. If this whole time Nick Fury has no goddamn idea and he has the wall being pulled over. It's also the last person you got to hide from. Like the guy who brought everyone to Earth and everything. The guy who's the most pro Skrull guy. Just in case, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah, I just wasn't 100% sure about you, Nick. And to be honest, it was like five years there kind of proved me right. And the way she talked to him, you know, that she's the kind of wife that like she puts Nick Fury in his place every now and then. Oh, yeah. He gets out of line. She's like, put that fucking wedding ring back on. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I like that a lot, too. That was like the perfect way to introduce their relationship. It's like wedding ring back on. You're not with the fucking boys right now. You're not with shield. You're with me. Take out the garbage. It's fucking,
Starting point is 00:42:50 there's flies in the goddamn kitchen now because of you, Nick, you goddamn louse. So two weeks, we've got two pretty shocking endings. Maria Hill dies in the first episode. Nick Fury is a wife in the second. Hopefully that continues.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I think, you know, if you set us up for shocks and surprises at the end of every episode, maybe one or two is going to fall flat. It's not going to reach those expectations. But at least having a hooker at the end of a hooker. Yes! No, now we're talking, Bob.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Episode three, a Skrull hooker. Like, who do you want me to be? And we could just start going down the damsels. Even throw some dudes in there. Fine, we're an open-minded podcast. Whatever you guys want to throw? And we could just start going down the damsels. Even throw some dudes in there. Fine. We're an open-minded podcast. Whatever you guys want to throw at us, Disney, I'm down. This is just the show for cliffhangers, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:43:33 A hooker. Yeah, throw a hooker at the end of the episode, and I'll be back for week three, week four. I'm excited in terms of finding out Nick Fury's personal relationship. I'm almost more interested in that than the scroll stuff which is bad because i'm interested in the scroll stuff again it's not a bad show but it's not um not the most captivating marvel show they've had yeah i need maybe it's just when i watch marvel i'm like jump get into it blah blah blah maybe i didn't watch other marvel shows from back in the day that maybe were more like this, but I'm kind of suffering from the same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:06 But I do know this whole secret wars thing is such a big deal, right? And if this is part of all that, then if this is the bridge we have to walk through, and like you said, if at the end of the season, we're like, nothing really happened. And they're like, well, if Maria Hill died,
Starting point is 00:44:22 Nick Fury's wife is a Skrull. There was the hooker episode, which was awesome. And then three other like big aha, oh shit moments. I mean, it sounds like a Skrull's in your house, Rob. You got to watch out. Yeah, that was the first appearance of Faith. Faith, my new dog. She's officially living with us now in the apartment.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And yeah, you're going to hear her every now and then barking. I feel like a dad on his first week by the way with a baby i know the dad's listening to this you're like you motherfucker and you don't even you can't even imagine i have been waking up at like five in the morning every day to go walk her and we come back and we cuddle it's a great life don't get me wrong but i have been on very little sleep on for about a week. So I, one of my favorite things in the world right now is just seeing our boy cons. He's on Twitter and he's like, Oh, I'm at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:45:11 This couch isn't so bad. We're all the dads always complaining about being at the hospital and this and that. And I'm just like, I'm not even replying. I'm just like, have your fun, get your little cons comments out. And even for the first couple of weeks when the baby's doing nothing but sleeping. But the next time I see Connor, which I'm telling you will not be for months. And I'm just going to see the look in his eye or the lack of the look in
Starting point is 00:45:32 his eye, because it's the light is gone. It's not off for good, but it's hidden. It's hidden behind a lot of. And I'll tell you, Rob, I can't wait for it.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And I'm just going to smirk and go. How's it going, man? Hey, you know, yeah, I know, man. I mean, Smitty wrote a whole fucking blog about how going from zero to one is nothing compared to going from one to two kids. And I'm like, welcome to the party, pal.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I mean, Big Cat's going to three now. Big Cat's going to three, but that's like one and a half when you have as much money as Big Cat's nothing. Like me, I'm grinding. I'm fucking out here in the streets every goddamn day. It's a little, it's tough. I'm just gonna say it's tough for all of us.
Starting point is 00:46:07 So welcome to the party, Bob. I'm happy to have faith as the unofficial third chair of the pod. And let's rock and roll, baby. Not a scroll. She's like a little, not a scroll,
Starting point is 00:46:16 not a scroll. She's not on the list. Like Sparky. I'm going to say no. Yeah. No faith. Faith is great. We also filled out, you know, you got to register in your town, like your dog or whatever, register
Starting point is 00:46:29 with the building. And there's a middle name option. So we made her middle name Hill. Faith Hill Fox. Nice. We just thought that was funny. I like that. Maybe a little like, and that's also, we could also say that's a, in remembrance of Maria
Starting point is 00:46:43 too, right? Oh, it is. That, you know, that's why we did it. That's why he uh in remembrance of maria too right oh it is that you know that's why we did it that's why he did it yeah that's why in memory of maria hill there you go you better tell that to elizabeth because that bitch is mean she's i'm telling you we're gonna yeah and we're gonna probably learn a lot more about maria and there's gonna be some mean elizabeth fucking uh like miss mrs that's mrs elizabeth we all know miss el Elizabeth from wrestling. This is Mrs. Elizabeth. I can't say Elizabeth for some reason tonight. Mrs. Elizabeth. That bitch is mean.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah. All right. That was Secret Invasion. We were just talking before we started the podcast. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny comes out this week. I don't know if we'll do a podcast about it or a quick hitter about it on YouTube. I want to know from everyone listening to this if you're interested in that. Do you want us to do an Indiana Jones recap?
Starting point is 00:47:26 We did a trailer recap when that came out and it didn't really do that. Well, which made me think maybe our audiences is over the Indiana Jones craze. Personally, I'm not, you know, me, Harrison Ford,
Starting point is 00:47:36 super Mark. So I'll be there. I think I'm going to go tomorrow on opening night. And today, if you're listening to this on release day and you know, it might not be right away, but maybe we'll do a quick hitter on it yeah you guys let us know um what works and we'll go from there uh again i've heard it's not worse than crystal skull or whatever the fuck it is yeah um and this is what i want this week's hashtag to be hashtag whoever you think is a scroll is a scroll so
Starting point is 00:48:06 hashtag nick tarani is okay would be my hashtag if you think i'm a scroll hashtag clem is a scroll name someone at barstool that you think is a scroll hit us up in the mentions hashtag insert name here is a scroll i love it and come back next thursday for another secret invasion recap the hooker episode so you're gonna want to be there for it. And thank you for tuning in. We'll see you then.

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