My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 29 - CHRIS JERICHO

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

AEW Champion, FOZZY frontman, and Talk is Jericho host Chris Jericho joins the From The Top Rope boys in-studio this week to discuss how he felt the first edition of AEW Dynamite went, how the backsta...ge vibe compared to that of other locker rooms he's been in, the process of reinventing himself over and over again, and his dream rock n' roll supergroup.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We've got the AEW World Heavyweight Champion, Le Champion, if you will. That's right, Chris Jericho is on this podcast. We had him in studio at the Barstool headquarters, and it was an awesome chat we really got to like pick his brain discuss the wednesday night wars if you will and this was recorded the night after aew premiered so we actually got his thoughts on how that went and everything and you'll get to listen to it before this week's dynamite i'm really really excited about it last week i went i saw joker i know a lot of listeners were tweeting me and asking me if i would speak on Joker in this podcast. I'll touch on it, but I'm not going to go too deep into my thoughts on the movie, because I think down the line we'll definitely do a full podcast about it. I don't know if it'll be
Starting point is 00:00:53 sooner rather than later, or later rather than sooner, the second of which isn't even a saying, but I flipped it, did a little vice versa, flip-flop, snip-snap. I liked Joker. I liked Joker a lot. I thought Joker was a great movie but I don't think I liked it as much as everyone else and I say that because I didn't see it as a triumphant masterpiece of cinema you know that's what everyone else was saying it was the greatest movie ever made Joaquin Phoenix gave the greatest performance ever made greatest writing it was the deepest movie of all time I didn't think it was that deep. I thought The Joker was very, very, very, very, very good as a character study for Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck slash Joker.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I loved all of that. The thing that irked me a little bit was how on the nose it was with all of its social commentary and political themes. And I liked the themes they were pushing. I just thought they could have been a little more subtle about it. And I thought, I think Feidelberg said this, I thought the movie thought it was deeper than it actually was. I think the movie was like thinking that it was doing something, you know, extraordinary. It sounds like I'm being negative about the movie.
Starting point is 00:02:00 It really does. I'm not. It was a great movie. And I recommend everyone listening to this podcast go out and see it because it's one of those movies that at the very least that people are going to be talking about for years to come, literally years to come. I think it's worth seeing. It's super unsettling. It's super disturbing. If you're not into that sort of shit, this one won't be for you. It's sad and depressing and afterwards you're not feeling, you know, you usually have after a comic book movie where you go, wow,
Starting point is 00:02:28 that was amazing. I can't wait to go home and read the comics. You kind of leave this one and you go, society has issues with mental illness and healthcare. That's the general vibe I got coming out of this one. But again, I really liked Joker. I really, really, really liked Joker. I don't know if I loved Joker. I loved scenes in it. I loved aspects of it. I don't know if I loved it as a whole. I really liked it.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'm going to have to see it again. I think when I see it again, I'll like it way more than I did the first time. And that's because the movie is so anxiety-inducing and unsettling that you almost want the second viewing where you could just see it as a movie. Now, moving on from that, I do want to touch on this. I spent my weekend watching some movies that I missed with my roommate, Trent, who's been on the podcast before. We watched three movies yesterday, and I want to talk about all three of them very briefly, just give my quick thoughts. The first of which was Parasite. I discussed Parasite with Justin Kroll very briefly. It's a Korean movie that came out this year. It's being heralded as one of the best
Starting point is 00:03:29 movies of the year. And I got to tell you, after watching it, I completely agree. Parasite's a movie like I've never seen before. I don't even really want to talk about the plot of it because it's one of those movies that has so many twists and turns, especially in the main plot, that it's probably best going in blind. But I will say there's aspects of the movie that almost did what the Joker did better than the Joker was trying to do it in the social war aspects and stuff like that. And there's also scenes where it completely flips on its head and it almost becomes like a thriller. It becomes like a home invasion style thriller. I don't know how easy it is to find, but Parasite's definitely one worth going out of your way to see. And the entire time, there's another one of those movies where your heart is really pounding. And the whole time I'm thinking, why doesn't this family just have
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Starting point is 00:05:48 That's simplisafe.com slash mom. So I watched Parasite. I loved it. Trent loved it as well. Like I said, go out of your way to see it this year. After that, we watched Booksmart, which is a very big change in tone, a very different movie. Booksmart was Olivia Wilde's directorial debut. I think I said that
Starting point is 00:06:05 word right. It's a comedy. It's very similar to Superbad. The whole movie's plot revolves around these two very nerdy girls trying to get into one party before they graduate high school to really go crazy. And we love that as well. We thought it was very funny. Billy Lord is hysterical in that movie. After that, we watched a movie that people are going to be shocked that I've never seen before I think but it's the first Kingsman movie I had never seen any of the Kingsman movies and neither had Trent So I texted Jeff D. Lowe our movie guy
Starting point is 00:06:34 And I said hey we need a movie recommendation We're on a hot streak right now We're 2-0 with movies that we put on And really enjoyed Please please Jeff D. Lowe Come through with a recommendation that will make us three you know that will give us the hat trick on sunday movies so he texted back he said dude watch kingsman i can't believe you've never seen kingsman before it's a world-class action
Starting point is 00:06:54 movie i put it on that motherfucker wasn't lying kingsman is a legit ass movie and i'm sure i'm not breaking any news to you guys out there because this was a massive movie when it came out like four years ago but i fucking loved it and I had no idea that my guy Mark Hamill was in it and that his first scene he's talking to Samuel L Jackson which is like oh my god Luke Skywalker's talking to Mace Windu for the first time right now what world are we living in another awesome thing about Kingsman literally all of them wear glasses that look just like mine and while we're on the topic of glasses, actually, let me ask you something. How much time do you spend in front of your digital screens? For me, I spend hours at a time looking at my screens. I'm talking about binging movies right
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Starting point is 00:09:01 seen. You're probably like, Robbie, we've seen all these fucking movies. You're mentioning movies from literally years ago that you're saying are good. Listen, they're great movies. If you haven't seen them, check them out. But now let's get into what everyone clicked on this podcast for, a From the Top Rope interview with Chris Jericho, the AEW Le Champion. Enjoy. All right, welcome back to the show. We are joined now by a very special guest
Starting point is 00:09:26 a guest that we've had on from the top rope true you're you're in the office with me right now you're in the studio with me but now for the first time ever on my mom's basement in my mom's basement chris jericho chris i met your mom upstairs lovely lady chris you are here one day removed from the premiere of aW Dynamite on TNT. What was that? Oh, look at that. That's me trying to switch the mic. You're switching the mic and using that adjusting on the fly.
Starting point is 00:09:52 That's it, exactly. Here we go. Okay. One day removed, not even 24 hours removed. Not even. What was that experience like? Talk to me a little bit about the vibe backstage before the show. You've been in a lot of locker rooms for a lot of very special events.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Why was that different or how was that different well i think what you had more more different than anything was live tv and that's something that's not easy to adapt to and we had basically a locker room i'd say maybe of 75 or so that had never done live tv before not that they were nervous or scared but it's's a transition. So to me, I was really excited and proud of the roster for being able to adapt to that. B, the crowd was insane. They all knew it was a historical moment. And that just made the whole night extra special. From a selfish standpoint, my stuff, my performance, the stories we told told I don't think could have went any better And for the first time in 29 years
Starting point is 00:10:48 Someone threw a wiener in the ring Which I had never seen before So I had to make a point of that as well So there you go Everything all wrapped up And when the event was over How was it different before? Were things tense just because it is live TV?
Starting point is 00:11:01 No, it wasn't tense at all And that's the difference I think between What we're doing in AEW Is there's really no walking on eggshells or second guessing yourself or worried about making a wrong move. We want you to make a wrong move if you're going to learn from it. There's a lot of creative freedom, a lot of free flowing energy. Like wrestling should be like improv comedy or like being in a jazz band. You follow each other. You listen to the audience.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You work together. You go A, I'll go B. Let's do this. If you call everything and put everything together in the back, when you get out there, you don't know what you're going to get. And everything is very scripted in other companies and it's very regimented. We had none of that. There was a point last night where we got some stuff done and it was done earlier than we expected so three minutes of live tv with nothing planned this is great and it
Starting point is 00:11:52 was awesome and it ended right when it should and it just got more and more heated and more and more layered and it's like this is what wrestling is supposed to be and it really has refueled not my love for wrestling because i always loved it i love working for wb i love everything i've done but the creative element sparked the creative juices to know like i can do this live without a net you forget that sometimes you know and to be reinforced with that to realize i'm pretty damn good at this. Last year was my exact 29th anniversary of my first match to the day. I know what I'm doing. And now I really get excited when there's no rules. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. When you're building AEW, was there a fear of, I don't know how we're going to have a full roster when we're talking about live TV and we're going to be doing these pay-per-view shows to the point where AEW is now where there might be too many guys that are interested. It's like now we've got to make cuts.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Now there's so much talent that's looking at what AEW is doing and it's like, well, we can't sign everybody. Well, and we don't want to. Right. That's the thing. There's a little bit of a misconception that we're just throwing around million-dollar contracts. Basically, the WWE is now after we started because they don't want anyone to go anywhere that was never our intention
Starting point is 00:13:07 we never wanted to be a place where just signing everybody or cast offs from w guys get fired from w i'll just go to aw it doesn't work that way right um we have a very specifically selected roster i wasn't involved in that but here's what i knew before i signed. To me, you need three things to make a wrestling company. Money, TV, and six to eight legit main event guys that are fresh. We have that. For the first time ever, there's guys who have been touring the world doing this for a decade that chose not to go to WWE, that have a huge fan base, but never on a nationwide basis. You take the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega, when they see these guys, who are these guys?
Starting point is 00:13:48 There are going to be overnight sensations that have been doing this for 10 years. Kenny, Matt Jackson, Nick Jackson, the reinvention of Cody, Hangman Page, Moxley, Jericho. There's your guys. I don't care who else is there. Luckily, we got MJF and we got Luchasaurus and we got Jungle Boy and we got this collection of guys that are just tremendous,
Starting point is 00:14:12 Pentagon and Phoenix. All these guys I'm mentioning, I can see myself having matches with them and having great matches with them. People I've never heard before, Darby Allin. So that's the cool thing that I like about this. Kenny Omega bringing all the Japanese girls over. I thought, oh, who's going to care? Last night, you had this little girl dressed like a princess fighting this giant beast,
Starting point is 00:14:33 and the people got into it. They'd never heard of either one of them, I would say. At the end of it, they were going nuts when Riho beat Nyla Rose. So that's how you do it. You have a top foundation, and then you can build everybody else up. And I'm really excited about the roster that we have. There'll be a little bit of twisting back and forth. Jake Hager coming now is huge.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Santana Ortiz coming is huge. Sammy Guevara, I picked him out on my own. This guy can be a star. Look at all the guys that we have. We don't need everybody else to come. I've got a year and a half of matches on my own just with the guys that we have. Right. And you were talking about the live TV aspect of everything, the anything can happen feel that wrestling should have.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And I felt AEW really had that last night, even going down to Jay and Silent Bob, Kevin Smith and Jason Hughes in the front row. And I saw Kevin Smith put up a very nice Instagram post about that. And I'm a diehard Kevin Smith fan. My first tattoo ever is his life mantra. Oh, that's great. So I got to ask you how that came about how did you bring Kevin Smith into uh our wrestling world well uh became friends with Kevin uh podcasting wise did a couple movies together I'm in the new Jay and Silent Bob which is awesome I'm looking forward to yeah it's great it's a
Starting point is 00:15:38 great scene too Kevin really wrote wrote me some good stuff and I just said you know I said we're trying to put it together with his publicist to have him come. And obviously, when WWE was pitched, they wanted him to. And they're like, well,
Starting point is 00:15:51 because publicists don't understand. Well, he'll do WWE and he'll do AEW. It's not going to work that way. So I just talked to Kevin. I said, listen,
Starting point is 00:15:57 man, I understand you got both. We'd love to have you. And he was really cool. He's like, what do you want me to do, Chris? I said,
Starting point is 00:16:02 we'd love to have you. He goes, I'll be there. He goes, you were there for me when I needed you. Like, I was there for you when you needed me to be in a major movie. But that's how he is. He's a very loyal guy.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And he showed up there. That's the first wrestling match he's ever been to. A guy from New Jersey. Same with Muse. And I think he said, you know, he's got the bug. He wants to do it. He wants to be a part of it. And that was it. And he came and sat got the bug he wants to do it he wants to be a part of it and that was it and he
Starting point is 00:16:25 came and sat in the front row and what i really liked about is a he chose aew over wwe but also there's some street cred there there's some mainstream celebrity because like you said guys like us are kevin smith fanatics and there's a lot of people who are like i told moxie kevin kevin smith is gonna be he's got that vibe so when you see him in the front row, it just adds to the level of celebrity. It's a subtle thing, but it's like people are like, wow, Kevin Smith, this is a cool place to be. And that's basically what it is. AEW is the cool wrestling place right now.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, it is. So I'll be honest with you. We went to WrestleMania this year. That's the last time that I've watched WWE. I haven't missed an AEW event. And it's weird because when I was a kid like i grew up um i'm 30 now and i felt like it was a betrayal to watch wcw like i i love wrestling but i was like i'm not turning it on because i thought it was going to give them even like a tick of like a rating i was like i'm not doing it right absolutely
Starting point is 00:17:20 not but now like this is the first time in my life where I'm, because, you know, we do the show together and I checked out New Japan. I was like, okay, like, all right, Kenny Omega. And then AEW comes around. I'm like, this is what I miss. Like, when I'm watching WWE, it's like, this is what I wish that they were doing over there. Like, it's so stale. So for you, how much of what, because you are constantly reinventing yourself it for it during that process do you know when it's time to change things up do you change things up when it's still working yes or do you get the sense where it's like all right we're not getting the same buzz we need to switch it up because i feel like there's times where you're abandoning things while they're still working yes perfect example it's one of the reasons not one of the reasons but when I was debating AEW versus WWE, I was like, could I go back and be the guy with the list again?
Starting point is 00:18:10 It still is super popular but I just felt the time has come and gone. I couldn't go back there. I would feel like a cliche or like it's selling out. I know when it's time to move on even if it's in my own head. Like when I changed in 08 with the countdown and changing from even something slight like long tights to short tights. The countdown. YTJ, you're not allowed to call me YTJ anymore. I told all the announcers that. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:18:36 All the people that wanted the merch guys. Here's the new idea for a shirt. No shirt. What do you mean no shirt? Who doesn't want a shirt? Me. I don't want anybody wearing a shirt of Jericho if I'm supposed to be a bad guy. That goes against what I'm supposed to be doing. I was really deep into it then.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You have to change and evolve. And that includes what you just said about your evolution of watching companies. Imagine how I feel because that was me. I was WBSL. I'll never work anywhere in the states or anywhere in the world other than for Vince McMahon. Again, suddenly I go to Japan to do the Kenny thing. It's a huge hit. It makes big money.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I want to do more. And then as I'm there, I'm meeting all these guys that are choosing not to go to WWE. Then this Tony Khan thing comes up. Then it's like, wow, now I have a real choice to make. Do I go back to where I can know what to do?
Starting point is 00:19:19 I'll be in the main event some night. I'll be open to match others. I'll be this, that, and the other thing. Or do I continue this? Like in Japan, I was the guy. And now in the aew i can be the guy and what i mean by that i'm the bridge to bring people that haven't seen this show over people bought new japan to watch jericho makers they didn't know uh they wanted to see jericho they didn't necessarily even know who kenny was and then they leave going wow kenny make is awesome and all
Starting point is 00:19:43 these other guys are awesome and And, uh, Ibushi and Naito and Okada and the young bucks and hang man. And, um, that's what I feel that my role is in AEW. Who's in there. Jericho. We like Jericho. We'll watch the show. And then they see all this other great stuff. So that's kind of the evolution and the fact that I could go and make a difference in the wrestling world. We changed history just by being in existence completely. The guys are getting paid more. There's a buzz for wrestling.
Starting point is 00:20:08 There's fans that are coming back that haven't seen it in a while because they didn't like what WWE was doing. That all stems from two things. This is going to sound egotistical, but it really is true. It's the Khan family deciding to do this and Chris Jericho signing a contract.
Starting point is 00:20:22 When that happened, it became legit. And then we became an enemy right off of those two factors. Which is crazy, by the way. It is crazy, yeah. Because I thought for sure, you know, like AEW, it's an alternative. It's something that as a wrestling fan, once like, you know, because Robbie got me into like New Japan, like once I dipped my toes in the water outside of WWE,
Starting point is 00:20:41 I was like, all right, I can do that, you know? Japan was your gateway drug to AEW. Right. Me too. When John Lester was on the Red Sox for his whole career and then he got traded
Starting point is 00:20:51 and then he was like, I never thought I could play for another organization. And then once he got to taste of it, he was like, oh, I can do this.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's how I felt with pro wrestling. Me too. I was like, okay, I can do this. And then now I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:21:03 AEW is just the better product. There's a bubble in WWE and once again, I, I can do this. And then now I'm like, well, AEW is just the better product. There's a bubble in WWE. And once again, I'm not demeaning WWE. I love working for Vince. I had a great time there. But there's a bubble you live in. This is the way wrestling is.
Starting point is 00:21:15 This is the way it has to be. This is the genius of the business. He took it to the mainstream. And then you go outside of it and realize there's a whole other world of guys who have ideas and creativity. And I think that's great i think the best part about wrestling is the characters you play are just extensions of yourself nobody and nobody has for a long time but no one can can write me a promo and say read this and no one has vince wants you to say this listen i don't mind what's the bullet point but here's the words i'm supposed to say i can't do that no you know if i'm acting for steven spielberg playing you know joe schwartz storming the beaches of normandy that's fine but nobody knows chris jericho more than i do if you have something you want me to get across or some
Starting point is 00:21:53 an actor an emotion or a special line i'm there but don't tell me a b c d e f g you watch when when flair and roddy piper and those guys would do promos. They were never as good because they were telling what to say. Right. You know, like last night I was going to do a promo after the beatdown of Cody. The beatdown got so much heat. I was like, promo doesn't matter. This is what matters. You've got to do the promo.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I'm like, no, I don't have to do the promo. I don't need some stagehand yelling at me to do the promo. I know what I'm doing. And it just led to, because I know we're going to the finish, everything is in the moment. And that's what real wrestling is. Wrestling is, like I said, it's a live stunt show combined with the Shakespearean morality play.
Starting point is 00:22:36 What's the difference? What's the similarities? They're both live. Shakespearean play is live. If you go to Universal Studios and go see the Indiana Jones live stunt show, it's live. A live crowd dictates where you go and what you do. They've lost that in WWE because it's
Starting point is 00:22:51 the writers. They want to be like, I remember Vince would say, I know you wouldn't say it, but Friends is a sitcom, so let's get writers from Friends to write wrestling. We're not friends. No. We're not friends. We're not a sitcom. We're a live action, exciting hybrid sport wrestling we're not friends no we're not friends no it's we're not a sitcom we're a live action
Starting point is 00:23:05 uh exciting hybrid sport rock and roll show morality play yeah that's what we do so you can't expect to write that in the back and translate that you know in front of a live studio audience that's why i feel like aew is almost a perfect storm because you and your entire career you built yourself up to where you're right you can legitimize something but then you take Cody you take the Young Bucks and then you take Kenny Omega and them as a group they're like well we're not tempted by WWE money like we see the potential in doing something different doing something new and then when all that comes together, what you have is a very legitimate threat to WWE's audience. Like WWE is Disney World. They'll be fine regardless,
Starting point is 00:23:53 but to be able to take a market share during this time when WWE is Disney World is beyond impressive to do that right out the gate. It's not even like, hey, give us a chance to prove ourselves. It's, hey, here we are, and we're already doing it. It's also the first time in history, in our lifetimes, and probably our parents' lifetimes, where you can watch a major wrestling company start from scratch. Yeah. Literally. Because the WWE started in the 40s, 50s.
Starting point is 00:24:18 The NWA was the 20s. ECW started in high school gyms. Then you're talking about a company that basically legit started in front of 14,000 people in a sold-out capital center in Washington, D.C. on a network that drew 1.4 million people. That's what the rating was. And the demos were second only
Starting point is 00:24:35 to the MLB wildcard game. We were just talking about that before, and the WWE even put out a statement on it. Did you see that? Because they're embarrassed. My dad, yes, I did read it. When I was a kid, my dad said, if someone beats you up, then that's nothing to be ashamed of. If you pick a fight with someone and you get beat up, that's on you. They picked a fight with us. We haven't said a word about WWE.
Starting point is 00:24:56 They picked a fight with us. They got their asses kicked first week and then they have to say, well, this is not a one-week sprint. It's a marathon. Whoever said it wasn't? We never said that. They're embarrassed. They got egg in their face because they've been
Starting point is 00:25:07 the monopoly for so long that somebody came in and basically said, you know, go fuck your ass. Yeah. You want to do this? Look what happens.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Now listen, is it going to last next week? I don't know. I'll tell you one thing though. I bet you they're not going to be in that full sale much longer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And when they start trying to go to bigger buildings that don't sell, guess who they're going to bring in there? There'll be Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins and all these other guys. It's going to kill the whole concept of what NXT is because they're not strong enough. I'm not saying that from a disrespectful standpoint. They're in the bubble that everyone knows who NXT
Starting point is 00:25:40 is. They don't. When you watch a show where the last segment of the show had Chrisris jericho dustin rhodes what we know who that is cody rhodes what we know who that is john moxley what we know that is jake hager well we've seen him before he's an ex-world champion they know who these guys are and now by transitive property they know the young bucks they know kenny omega they know sammy guevara they know santina or santino art. Look what we had compared to theirs. They don't have anybody that's been on a man. This is not a cut down.
Starting point is 00:26:08 They don't know who those guys are. Mainstream doesn't know who those guys are. So when they get their asses kicked, that pulls them out of this bubble to make them go, wow, maybe this isn't such a good idea. Then they're going to change the concept of what NXT is and they're going to kill the golden goose of that brand. Very well could happen.
Starting point is 00:26:24 We're short on time, but before we get you out of here of here i got to ask you one rock and roll question at least we got the fozzy front man in here yes it's a very typical one one i'm sure you've been asked a ton build your rock and roll super group give me a four pieces singer guitar player bass player and a drummer i that's always a hard question to do but i'll do it from uh the rock and roll heaven okay version okay so i'll put uh let's see who we got um malcolm young is on rhythm guitar as he should be randy rhodes on lead guitar cliff burton on bass uh drummer is hard because you could take keith moon but i always go if i'm putting together a metal band i think the rev from avenge sevenfold was a tremendous tremendous tremendous pick and dude dude, I think
Starting point is 00:27:06 one of the best singers of all time would gotta be Chris Cornell. I'll put him on vocals. There might be others, but from this power metal vibe that I got, that's what I'm gonna go with. I think that's a hell of a band. Chris, thank you so much for joining us. It might be rock and roll heaven, but you know they got a hell of a band. You can catch
Starting point is 00:27:21 AEW Dynamite Wednesdays on TNT at 8 p.m. All right. We want to thank Chris very much for coming on. That was a blast talking to him. And before I get you out of here, I want to just mention if you haven't rated and reviewed the show yet, I would love for you to do that. We've had some assholes leaving one-star reviews, leaving two-star reviews. They're trying to get us down.
Starting point is 00:27:42 They really are. They're not going to, though. We're not letting them. It's not happening. Leave a five-star review if you can, if you like the show.

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