My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 293 - BARBENHEIMER WITH CLEM AND EDDIE (BONUS)

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

BONUS EPISODE! Robbie, Clem, and Eddie all did the Oppenheimer/Barbie double feature over the weekend, contirbuting to the #4 biggest weekend in box office history, and they've got thoughts about both... movies! #Oppenheimer #Barbie #Barbenheimer ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome back to My Mom's Mojo Dojo Casa House, presented by 3C and Barstool Sports. I am your host, Robbie Fox. Along with me is my co-host, Clem, and our very special guest, Eddie, all the way from Chicago. We have him on here because we're going to do a Barbenheimer pod today. We're going to talk about Oppenheimer. We're going to talk about Barbie. It's a little bonus pod on the Secret Invasion finale week.
Starting point is 00:00:32 But we bullied Eddie, straight up bullied him into going to these two movies and spending nearly seven hours in a movie theater on a nice summer day. So we had to get him on the podcast. Clem, do you agree we We, we basically bullied this guy. It was, it was like a sneak attack that we didn't plan out, but it happened organically on the rundown. I mean,
Starting point is 00:00:51 we're the Monday rundown boys at this point. So we kind of have to step our game up. So we're just going to start bullying people, throw our weight around at this company. And Eddie was unfortunately the guy that was on the train tracks. And this is the thing though, a lot of movie theater takes going out of barstool, very controversial things that was on the train tracks. And this is the thing, though. A lot of movie theater takes going out at Barstool, very controversial things that rile the people up.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I know Eddie's a diehard movie guy, and it's like sometimes you just need to give that little push to the guy. I know that at some point in Eddie's head he goes, what did I do, Barben Hammer? That's the last time I'm going to even attempt the Eddie voice out of respect for you and Large. So we kind of just gave him that nudge, and a man of honor went through with it, and now we get to just hang out and talk some cinema.
Starting point is 00:01:29 It's a beautiful thing. Yeah, so I had no intention of doing that. Like, zero. I was going to see them both 1,000%. But, like, you know, obviously I was probably going to start with Oppenheimer because that's a big conversation, and then I was probably going to see Barbie, like, you know, obviously I was probably going to start with Oppenheimer because that's a big conversation. And then I was probably going to see Barbie like this weekend. And these guys, I mean, you want to talk about strong army.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I thought like, all right, I'm a big, you know, I'm big on my word. So after the rundown, I was like, all right, I got to figure out a way to do this. But those text threads I was sending, you would have thought that they were going to tie me to the train tracks Wiley Coyote style. It was a lesson in peer pressure from me and Clem. Basically we were like, Hey, I think Clem even texted me on the side.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Like, Hey, should we text Eddie and like double team him here and make sure he's going to see a often Barbie this weekend. And we, I was like, yeah, let's get on it.
Starting point is 00:02:19 So we texted him like, Hey, we don't see those receipts. Send us your credit card statement. And we want to see. Eddie's a wrestling guy. We had a D guy devon and spike dudley came out and put him through a table and that's the thing i know if i text eddie i may not get a response because he does have like he's recording and it just that takes chunks of hours when you're recording live so i was like even if i don't hear anything i didn't answer for two hours like man eddie the silence is
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Starting point is 00:04:05 Please use responsibly. And I mean, these fucking Chicago guys, I have to hear about summertime shy, you know, for the three months, it's actually above 50 degrees there. So I know it's still any air conditioned theater for seven hours,
Starting point is 00:04:19 but I do truly appreciate it. I mean, these are my guys right here. I have, you know, I love everyone at the company. There's like my, my inner circle and it's like my brother in the basement and my brother on the dozen. So it's, it's just good to be here, fellas. I gotta say, I think we're setting a bad example or at least Eddie's setting a bad example because we bullied him. And now we
Starting point is 00:04:39 just get to have a great podcast with him. And now we see, Oh, if you bully Eddie, we can just have him on the basement every week and talk about movies with them. This we see, oh, if you bully Eddie, we can just have him on the basement every week and talk about movies with him. This is great. Eddie, Ninja Turtles, August 2nd. Just so you know. Get your ass there. I put the gun to my head right now and I can't say no, so I guess I'm going to Ninja Turtles. Did you have a decent experience in the seven-hour theater
Starting point is 00:04:58 stay, though? Yeah. Listen, little thing now. Did you know they're doing this? I like this. I'm sure we'll get to the movies, but the experience of doing a double feature for six and a half hours was interesting. They're letting you book handicap seats because that's all that was left available. Now, listen, I know that could be misconstrued.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I already take enough heat about dogs. I take enough heat about being in the Russian Communist Party. But here's the thing. I talked to the lady she's like no it's like a thing now where we have to give up the handicap seats because we're overbooked but obviously if someone comes that needs it you're bumped i'm like all right i'll take that any day you know so i was i gotta send you the video i took a little video so wild i was basically in a private like lincoln box for for both and for oppenheimer it was just me and then barbie a couple more people came up for it but it was bizarre to be
Starting point is 00:05:54 in this box by myself i don't think if someone from chicago like walks into that theater sees you in the box they're like they're defending the communists because they think people are going to watch oppenheimer and be too fired up and try to kill Ed for being part of the Red Party. I mean, honestly, there was times I was sitting there and like someone like peeked in. I was like, I'm going to get John Wilkes Booth. This is going to be curtain. But you had a
Starting point is 00:06:15 seat. You didn't have to like bring it. You didn't bring the chair, right? Oh, no, no. I had a seat. It's like basically there's like four recliners, but next to the recliners is a spot for a wheelchair if someone has a companion. I heard people have been bringing lawn chairs and booking handicapped spots at Lincoln Square. Oh, I could. A thousand percent could do that.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I told my friend I was like, you should pull up a chair and just sit next to me. You know, so that was my experience. And it was weird because it was no obviously there was no steps to get up there. So at first i was sitting in the wrong seat and someone bumped me and i'm like wait a minute i'm in the last row i sat in l12 i knew i was in the wrong seat and i was in l21 that was my ticket and then i look up and i'm like how the fuck do i get up there like hey how do i get to my seat and then she's like oh yeah come here they gave me this private elevator.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And it was, like, lovely. So I think I might just be pro-handicap seat from now on. You need someone to Nancy Kerrigan your legs, right? And then there you go. I think so. I think so. Hey, I've made this admission in the past. When, like, especially, like, when you get off the train or whatever,
Starting point is 00:07:21 you don't want to walk up the stairs and there's an elevator. I just give a little limp. So I just limp towards the elevator so it's not because i'm lazy yeah yeah kaiser so say them oh yeah just throw the limp on it i think i think it'll be all right when you said chair too i think i thought robbie would ask me if you brought your little uh tailgating chair where it just pops out and he's just popping a squat there in the chair well we also had a seat dilemma which is the worst thing you could ever go through especially while the movie is happening like the second oppenheimer started we had our seats and then we had like the empty seat for kevin and someone comes and sits in it
Starting point is 00:07:55 so immediately we're like oh fuck that's kevin's seat he's still getting his concessions so i'm like let me take care of this for him let me be a good guy here i lean over and i'm like hey we have that seat the guy he's kind of an old guy kind of gives me like a yeah yeah i was like what the fuck he kind of just told me to fuck off he's still sitting in the seat so i'm looking at my girlfriend i'm looking at clem i'm like i don't know what to do here then kfc comes up and he's standing there like what do i do where do i go and i lean to the guy again i'm like hey our friend has that seat and he goes standing there like, what do I do? Where do I go? And I lean to the guy again. I'm like, hey, our friend has that seat. And he goes, this is my seat. He got really mad at me. He was like a very old man, like shut me down. And then I look at Clem and Clem is he is on his
Starting point is 00:08:36 phone. It looks like he has 100,000 tabs open the way he's looking for these tickets. He's like, I can't find him. I can't find him. I can't find him. I can't find him. It's like a disaster to the point where KFC just goes, I'm going to go sit up there. And then we found out. So KFC did not sit with us during Oppenheimer. But we found out afterwards it was the people next to Clem that were in the wrong seats. So everyone was shifted down. But for the first minute of that movie, we were in an absolute torture chamber.
Starting point is 00:09:02 It was an anxiety induinducing moment, much like the movie would come on to show us. Yeah, so this is the new world we're living in. And again, like, you know, we saw a new world get ushered in with the atomic bomb. We saw a new world has been ushered in in the movie theaters with this assigned seating stuff, right? I think that was a COVID thing is now every theater. I feel like you got to pick your seats up,
Starting point is 00:09:20 which I think is a good thing in the long run, right? Yeah, it's very good. However, it's moments like this where the concession stand at the place where we're in New Rochelle, very slow, so everyone's coming in late. Once those lights go down, I'm looking at the people next to me, and our seats were very weird where it had both armrests. One says eight, one says seven. I don't know which seat is seven, which seat is eight.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So I'm like, oh, shit, is this the person next to me? Am I supposed to go over? I look at them. They just start looking in the air. The person next to them, everyone's avoiding eye contact. These people, Ed, they had the corner seats. Because we're in the IMAX, too. This is premium seating, right?
Starting point is 00:09:58 They probably had first row all the way to the side. And they said, I'm going to go up to E8 and get myself some primo real estate up there and uh our boy kfc was the last one with the popcorn so he was the last one to sit down and he literally sat front row dead center luckily he was center and it wasn't like one of those you're basically like under the aquarium and in the splash zone for shamu he was actually in a decent spot it wasn't too big of of an IMAX, but I felt bad. He took an L there and I guess as the leader, that's on me. It's kind of one of those things that, you know Chicago. I feel like Chicago
Starting point is 00:10:31 is as similar as near a shelf. You have some people that are just like, I'm going to sit where the fuck I want to sit. If you're going to ask me in the middle of a movie with like a thousand people in the room to get up, you can go and try to do that. Oppenheimer too. If it's fucking that Jennifer Lawrence No Hard Feelings movie. like if it's fucking you know that Jennifer Lawrence No Hard Feelings movie like all right it's a comedy like you know people are talking in it
Starting point is 00:10:49 people are laughing at it anyway it's like the first five minutes of the new Christopher Nolan movie that everyone's been waiting for it's IMAX probably 10% of our theater wearing pink and they followed us right across the theater to Barbie afterwards and we did like right into barbie it was like oppenheimer right but you did the same order right ed yeah i had like a 30 to 35 minute break though oh that's nice yeah that's nice we we had no break we walked into barbie as it was probably like five minutes into barbie when we walked oh no shit yeah okay so it was literally like we just watched possibly the destruction of earth and pink land it's it's nice it's barbie land we're singing yeah dude it was i one more thing one more thing about this lincoln box
Starting point is 00:11:39 so i i tell you i had like a 30 35 minute break right yeah and of course i get my i have my drink and my popcorn and i walk out to take a phone call there's only one way in one way out and i'm like you know i'm watching the door because i'm gonna get a refill you know whatever i'm gonna i want to be filled up for for barbie and uh i go back in there after i take a phone call and my popcorn and my drink was gone what dude it was i'm like i've been thinking about it since and i don't think there's like an accurate way to describe how thrown off i am it's like someone was on stilts cleaning this popcorn or someone had a big like lever that like reached it was the most bizarre thing ever i can't i've been thinking about it since someone riding one of those tall bikes that you hate so
Starting point is 00:12:31 much came on and got the popcorn and then they could just speed on out because they're on a wheel it's the only explanation i only have a mission impossible guy it dropped in from the ceiling bro i'm not kidding you guys it was like so bizarre i was was like, oh my God. I think I was within my rights. I went up. I was like, hey, any way I can just get a new drink? I already paid. I'll show you. And they were very nice.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'm like, I'm doing the Barbenheimer. And they were very nice. They gave me a new one. So that was good. So they took your popcorn and your drink? Yes, dude. I was so blown off. And they give you double both or they just give you the drink?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Did you not want to push the limit? I didn't want to push the limit, so I didn't ask for popcorn. I just asked for a drink. Okay, okay. That's fair. So as far as the movies go, getting into the movies, we'll start with Oppenheimer's, being that was the first movie we saw. Then we'll get into Barbie. Oppenheimer, I went into.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm the biggest Christopher Nolan guy, obviously, because of The Dark Knight. It's my favorite movie. That whole trilogy I love so much. I also love The Prestige, one of my favorite movies of all time. Inception. Not as big on Interstellar because I didn't love the ending, but I love the rest of the movie. Just love this director. Still, him doing a biopic on Oppenheimer, I was like, three hours, black and white.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Is this going to be boring? Is this going to be history focused and you're too far into the forest to see the trees and it's just hard to understand? So I was a little worried. I went into it like, I'm excited for Nolan, but I don't know how excited I could be. I left that theater so, no pun intended, blown away. I could not believe it. I thought this was a masterpiece. It left me captivated the entire movie. The performances up and down the cast were outrageous. Every time someone else comes and joins the movie, I was like,
Starting point is 00:14:12 holy shit. When Huey from the boys joins the movie, me and Clem were fist pumping. We loved it. That was some dirty shit. I liked that we did that. But the fact that they kept it captivating in a movie with no action scenes, really, like there's the bomb scene, but it's hard to describe that as action.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But it's the closest thing we get. The visuals, the sound, everything about it exceeded my expectations. It's my favorite movie I've seen all year. It's probably my favorite movie I've seen since the Batman. I want to go back. I want to see it in the 70 millimeter Lincoln Square. They're sold out till the end of August. So they're going to have to extend that run. That's incredible, by the way. Like the 10 a.m. showings are sold out. It's crazy, crazy. But I thought this was,
Starting point is 00:14:56 I don't even want to call it everything I thought it could be because it was much more than that. I thought it was much better than I thought it could be. I think Cillian Murphy, I think he's going to win the Oscar for best actor. He was incredible. Didn't think about any of his previous roles when watching this. I think Robert Downey Jr. is going to win best supporting actor. He completely transforms his cadence from that smart, quick-witted Tony Stark style where he's calling people douchebag and stuff to this, Strauss, who's like,
Starting point is 00:15:21 well, spoilers, yeah, I guess. It's history. It's fucking history also. You know what it is. Emily Blunt, I thought was great for the first two thirds. You know, she doesn't have a ton to do. I thought she was fine. Like, oh, you get Emily Blunt for a role like that. Then the final act of the movie, Emily Blunt fucking cranks it up to
Starting point is 00:15:38 11 and completely is hitting daggers on everybody. Matt Damon's great. The young Han Solo, Alden Ehrenreich, he was fucking great. He hits that line at the end where he's like, maybe they were talking about something more important. Love that.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Casey Affleck in his quick scene. Chilling, I would describe that scene as. Just like, oh my God. Jason Clarke, the interrogator. He was such a great villain throughout the whole movie. You fucking hate this guy, the way he's asking questions. Jack Quaid from The Boys. Florence Pugh is great. She's also another character
Starting point is 00:16:08 that honestly didn't have a ton to do. Bob, I'd say she did the most in the movie. That's all she was doing was doing. I mean, I didn't realize this was going to be the case going into it. We got very intimate with Florence Pugh. I saw more about Pugh. At first, I didn't even recognize her because
Starting point is 00:16:24 I haven't seen a ton of movies. I think like Black Widow, obviously I've seen her. Or she's got like long blonde hair. Yeah, she's like, she has dark features. I'm like, who is this? I'm like, wait a second. That's, that's, that's Natalia's sister from Black Widow. So she did a lot of the heavy lifting.
Starting point is 00:16:39 She did a lot of that. Yeah. And then the one other actor I wanted to shout out is fucking Gary Oldman, who after the movie no shit, out, and I said to Clem and KFC, I was like, who the fuck did Gary Oldman play? I knew he was in the movie. I don't know who he played. They were like, he played the president, dude. Another performance from this guy where he completely transforms himself.
Starting point is 00:16:58 He has, I think, a better resume of different parts than anyone. Even Johnny Depp, I would put Gary Oldman above. You look at the role he plays in True Romance, and then you look at this, and then you look at Commissioner Gordon, like, it's crazy. So, yeah, I'll throw it to you, Clem, your thoughts first.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah, by the way, Drexel that he plays in True Romance is one of the funniest things. Yeah, it was like Actors actors avengers basically right where it's like oh shit we got another just you know 10 out of 10 a heavy hitter um there was a lot of parts of it that i loved including like you said all the actors first of all emily blunt playing like kind of like the party girl or not even the party girl but she's like a booze hound when she calls her kid like a brat and i was like i was like been there girl been there with uh you know the power and hood kind of side of things and then she's like this ride or die wife that you know
Starting point is 00:17:49 kind of goes out of the way and like represent like stands up for her husband when he doesn't do it as much the dude who plays i couldn't so i don't know if this happens to you eddie but if there's like a i know that guy from something but i can't figure out what it is especially in a movie like this it like completely captivates my attention it takes my brain away i couldn't figure out who the dude was that was grillin oppenheimer and that little sham uh questioning board with the board and it was and robbie said it was jerry west from uh the laker show did you watch that at all i haven't but i i he's awesome in that and he he kind of plays the same like Salty Dog. But in terms of the movie, I liked it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It wasn't like, I'd say Dark Knight's my favorite Christopher Nolan. Prestige is up there as well. It's just, I guess, I think the problem a lot of people who are given the negative-ish reviews or they went in thinking it was going to be one kind of movie, it was more of a like psychologically a thriller you have the trial you have kind of the back and forth along with all the stuff going on with the bomb i thought it'd be much more about the town and the and the you know from beginning to end but i still love the movie don't don't get me wrong i still loved it it was just different than i expected which is fine but you have a lot of talk and a lot of back and forth
Starting point is 00:19:01 but i appreciated the surprises the twists and turns you have with the Strauss stuff. I'm not going to lie to you guys. When they do something like make a dude like a guy, but Einstein, I kind of just love it. I'm like, I know him. I kind of know what that character is all about.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Uh, uh, I don't know about you guys as well. I was straight up the Leo DiCaprio pointing meme where every, when they said Heisenberg, I'm like, Oh, that's what they named them after.
Starting point is 00:19:24 We have a lot of striking bad him after. We watched Breaking Bad. We have memes popping up left and right for both these movies all over the internet, which is obviously great to see. The memes are so good for both the movies. So good. Twitter has been, you know, obviously their ex has been making some weird decisions lately, but the people
Starting point is 00:19:40 are lifting it up with Oppenheimer Barbie memes. Yep. As much as Elon's trying to kill it and Oppenheimer and Barbie are like, no, we'll put it on our shoulders here. We're going to carry you guys. Josh Hartnett, I forgot how much I love that fucking guy. He ruled.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And I got to shout it out. And I saw KFC said it. I imagine Eddie has the same kind of feelings. Bernard, the elf from Elf, coming through in the clutch for us in humanity's biggest moment. So, I mean, the elf from ALF, coming through in the clutch for us in, you know, humanity's biggest moment. And like Eddie said, Josh Peck as well. How about Josh Peck
Starting point is 00:20:12 being the fucking guy that's allowed to press the button on the test nuke? How about you, Eddie? Him giving the weather presentation, and Drake and Josh, he can't stop twitching, he's shaking, he can't stop. But yeah, Eddie, what did you think of Oppenheimer? So, I think Clem brings up a good point.
Starting point is 00:20:27 If you went into that movie and you're like, man, I'm bummed out, it went in a direction that I didn't think it would, and I wish they did this. I think that's fair. I think that's a totally fair thing to be disappointed in. However, you can't take it away from the source material itself. You know what I mean? You can at least separate like, all right,
Starting point is 00:20:46 this is what I thought it was, but judge it in a vacuum of what you saw. That's, that's my kind of take on that. But I, that seems to be the big thing. Like we don't got to get too much into Che, but he was like upset about the courtroom and everything. It was going to be a shoot them up movie, right? Yeah. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:03 He thought we were going to harris and seeing all that so but whatever whatever i think i think i agree robbie i thought the acting pretty much across the board was phenomenal um like the the women blunt and pew were awesome yeah robert tony jr was sensational there's one person where i i i said this to on dog walk uh the other day i i think i have a matt damon problem now no no no no i have it too ed i think i might have it too tell explain it because i think i'm with you on this now he settled in but this happened to me in air when i saw her and like maybe it's because i knew sonny beccaro like you've seen him you've seen him do interviews and what not but seeing him here
Starting point is 00:21:46 it's like I'm always just seeing Matt Damon and it's he settled like I said he settled in like once he kind of like the scenes got a little more rough or whatever he was better but that's I don't know and I feel bad but I don't know any other way to say it than that I said the
Starting point is 00:22:02 same thing as soon as we left the movie I go everyone was awesome, including Matt Damon. But for some reason, he's always Matt Damon to me. And I, I don't know how this happened. Just by pure coincidence.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I watched band of brothers right before I went to Oppenheimer completely like independently. I was not in world war two mode. And then I just watched fucking saving private Ryan last night. Cause I had some time to work. And I'm just like, I was like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:22:24 I was like, it's fucking saving Matt Damon. I forgot about this. And back then, it wasn't probably nearly as bad, even though I think he kind of blew up and go hunting right before the movie came out, which no one could have seen coming as much as it did. But it's the same thing. And I think
Starting point is 00:22:38 the air definitely messed with this as well, because it's the same thing in air. I never saw Sonny Vaccaro. I always saw Matt Damon playing Sonny Vaccaro. And I didn't feel that way about affleck as phil biden at all um so i think you're right about that is it also how much of it has to do with the damon haircut and the short-haired damon at least because when i watch goodwill hunting i buy him as will hunting still to this day buy him as will Will Hunting. Any other movie, though, I do think Matt Damon. And he was great in this movie.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like, they have some amazing, I think he plays Groves. Amazing scenes between Groves and Oppenheimer. I love the scene where they're talking about Casey Affleck's character. And he's like, what the fuck did you say to him? He's like, no, no, no. You don't mess with him. He kills everyone. And Oppenheimer just couldn't stop fucking communists.
Starting point is 00:23:23 This guy had type. He just, every single person, his friends, his family, surrounded himself with communists. And then was like, no, I'm not a communist. And the way they kind of get you on his side and then they throw you off of his side, you're on and off of thinking, is he a good guy? Is he a good guy doing bad things?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Is he a bad guy? Is he a crazy person? The way they start the movie with him putting cyanide in in his teacher's apple you're like oh fuck that's like this guy's about to poison so some scenes that i just wanted to point out that i thought were awesome as well the trinity test scene everyone's talking about for good reason the fact that the bomb goes off and they use that silence so well for what felt like a minute maybe 40 seconds and then it hits you that was the moment that you want to see an imax like everyone's saying you got to see this on the biggest screen possible and everything i felt like that lived up to the hype i felt my
Starting point is 00:24:16 chair rumbling when the actual bomb hit that was good trust tree trust we're in the trust tree i mean these are my guys i'm always in the trust with my guys here so i could tell as the bombs were getting bigger it was getting louder and i'm like if this gets louder to like atomic level it's gonna like blow my eardrums out i held my ears when they knew when they dropped the bomb and i knew there was gonna be a delay because there was always a delay for the sound yeah and i still did it like i was a little fucking eight year old bitch in the movie theater and i just have to come clean i don't want to see anything mean on social media to me because this is the trust tree you can't say stuff mean stuff when someone's in the trust tree and then i ended up just getting my ears blown out anyway because i took them out it's the reason you're in the
Starting point is 00:24:56 imax though so i guess it's kind of like why we're there the way christopher nolan intended it clam that that 600 pound 11 mile fucking imax thing i completely like ruined it for him which did you hear that they made the like the whole thing about the imax was imax i guess like the cameras or the film was made when obviously color was a part of it they had to make special black and white imaxes for this that's how you know this dude is like a sick die hard fucking film guy that he's doing this kind of shit just to get black and white scenes to pop on it and his whole thing with this movie was no cgi right we're not doing any computer generated effects so the bombs the explosions the earth the close-ups the atoms splitting all of that is very microscopic stuff or big explosions in the desert layered on top of each other now someone
Starting point is 00:25:43 has gone in and layered some CGI over this movie without Christopher Nolan's consent. He must be pissed about it. In the Middle East and in India, there are no nude scenes in this movie. They have put a CGI black dress over Florence Pugh during all of those scenes. I've seen a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:26:00 In the still image, it actually looks okay. It just looks like a little black dress. I can't imagine it looks good when she's moving and walking around. And, like, what about all, like, the sex scenes? Is she having sex with a dress on? This, like, black dress is just doing a lot of stretching? All right. I mean, hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:26:17 If you want to talk about the biggest takeaway from this movie, Oppenheimer was slanging that thang back in the day. That shot up. Oppenheimer. That's good. The man lovesenheimer. That's good. The man loves two things. The man loves quantum physics and he loves pussy. That was the biggest takeaway I had to take.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Communist pussy, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Crazy. Is that how you got your redhead reputation? Yes. That's exactly it. That's communist pussy.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I wish that were the case. I would accept it except like communist dog hater that's a lot worse than communist i would actually hell i'll tell you what there would be a there's a funny skit to be made about trying to take ed's security clearance away for the dog walk because he might be a communist yeah um there's's the final scene with Einstein is so good. The way Nolan set that up as a reveal. Einstein, by the way, played by the prisoner who helped Bruce Wayne out in The Dark Knight Rises. Christopher Nolan just sticking with his guys.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I love that. Same thing Tarantino does. James Gunn. A bunch of directors do that. The horror type scenes when he's like giving a speech and everyone's clapping and the feet are going and it's just overwhelming that was very well done another horror like scene when florence pew they show her death her drowning herself in the bathtub or whatever there's that quick glimpse of like black gloves drowning her no one throwing that in someone had
Starting point is 00:27:42 a tweet like he was really in his horror bag in that moment. He fucking was. And later found out because of the documentary on Peacock and YouTube and stuff that there's a lot of skepticism about her death. And a lot of people think she was murdered because the ties to the Communist Party, Oppenheimer meeting up with her right beforehand. And the fact that she plunged herself into a bathtub like headfirst like that. It's a strange way to commit suicide, but very cool for no one to like show it like that. I thought. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He did like a good job, which I didn't realize the black and white is all stuff. That's like on the record exactly as it happened. And then the color stuff is you can kind of take your, like your imagination for a while with what might've happened. And even like, they never show exactly what she did. So it could have just been her going into the bathtub and then someone else is the one who actually puts her down there's the
Starting point is 00:28:28 note that's written that's unsigned and all that kind of stuff so yeah uh that was i i kind of got out of the theater thinking like there might have been some bigger works at play which i mean a lot of communist stuff here ed was there a party that was kind of like empathetic and sympathetic toppenheimer just getting grilled for his communist eyes, being like he didn't even have to deal with Barada Gang and all the Twitter notifications I have to deal with. Yeah, I was wrong. I wanted to make a meme.
Starting point is 00:28:53 If someone out there can make the meme of Oppenheimer in front of the board and it's like Oppenheimer's Ed and then the board is Chief, White Sox Dave, Barada Gang, and all the fucking people. Hey, listen, these are two wetheads here. You're amongst friends right now. Me and Robbie are your M.L.D. We ride for you. We ride for you.
Starting point is 00:29:10 We both were red for you, actually. Yeah, we did. Thank you. And that's why I take the bullying to go see a seven-hour movie. Two scenes in this movie that were directly pulled from real life, almost verbatim, that I wanted to point out. The meeting with Truman, where Truman calls him a crybaby, says, get that crybaby out of my office. Apparently, almost word for word, what really happened.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And Emily Blunt's final questioning scene. She's like, I don't like the way you phrased that. He didn't go to communist channels. He went through communist channels. That whole thing where she doesn't shake the hand and everything. Real life. Pretty badass. And the Truman thing is just fucking crazy. The Truman thing where she doesn't shake the hand and everything, real life. Pretty badass, and the Truman thing is just fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:47 The Truman thing really took me aback. Everyone talks about now how it's like, oh my gosh, there's no decorum in the White House. There's no this, there's no that. I mean, this guy was a savage. It seems like it's always like this. You know what I mean? He's like, sir, I built the bomb that killed hundreds of thousands. I feel like I have blood on my hands. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:30:04 you're a fucking pussy. I pressed the button button get the fuck out of here pussy the biggest the biggest burn in the movie wasn't everything that happened in hiroshima nagasaki it was the president calling oppenheimer a crybaby that is such a fucking good old school insult like you guys had an insult draft didn't you someone recently yeah and cry baby it's like it's it's probably one of the first insults you learn and then it just makes the person cry more which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for the cry baby so that's a tough look for a guy that like was probably one of the biggest names in the in the world at that point and fucking the president just took his fucking legs out from him and then i've got uh two more quick notes before we move on to barbie
Starting point is 00:30:45 the scene where they are choosing which city to bomb it's the guy who played dexter's dad in the show and he's like we're gonna uh take kyoto off the list because it means a lot to the japanese people and uh also because i honeymooned today it's very nice that was a hit that was a hit with the theater you heard the entire theater like turn to everyone on their side be like did he really just fucking say that another thing from real life that guy was like i honeymooned there so let's let's not bomb him let's let's keep that on and then just this such a christopher nolan moment everyone's saying the end of that movie when he drops the jfk name he dropped it like it was dropping robin at the of the Dark Knight Rises or the Joker card at the end of Batman Begins. He's like, by the way, fucking cinematic universe, JFK up next.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah, good point. Good point. I do want to point out the Pash scene with Affleck was great, too. Oh, yeah. With Casey Affleck, that was a lot of tension, and he played that phenomenal. Can I give my one con, though? I thought
Starting point is 00:31:48 they set up the Robert Downey Jr. rift a little too clunky. It went from the beginning and then obviously you had everything and then it cut in and out, but there was just a sense in me where like like wait i i kind of it kind of went over my head i'm an idiot
Starting point is 00:32:09 don't get me wrong but i just felt like there was it was a little too subtle there should have been more there in my in my opinion i think that's i think that's fair because i would love obviously i'm going to go back and see it again but the scene where they showed a couple times of him like being like oh he could use beer to make a bomb he could use a sandwich like he's making fun of him and everyone's laughing in front of him that went over my head a little bit like that whole courtroom exchange why he offended him i'm sure on a second watch i'll be like okay i understand it now the other thing with no one movies the sound was incredible every nolan movie has a couple lines that you just can't hear.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And there were a couple lines in this movie that I just couldn't hear. And I was just like, oh. They need Nolan with subtitles, which I'm sure he would fucking throw up if he heard me say that. He would literally... But I think Nolan with subtitles would work. It would work for Dunkirk. It would work for The Dark Knight Rises. There's a lot of...
Starting point is 00:33:03 He also somehow is able to get the loudest movie scenes i've ever seen still to this day the loudest movie scene i've ever been in a theater for is in the dark knight when they recreate the bullets shooting because they want to like place it together for the thumbprint for whatever reason i remember that was 15 years ago now and i'm like that scared the fuck out of me i'm i'm with you on that too ed it it was kind of like clunky like they almost turned this like i wouldn't say strauss is like this brilliant guy or any means he's like a politician and he's but he's like a he's able to get these brilliant minds together and he almost turned into like a scooby-doo villain he's like i got you ever since he's called a sandwich could be a bomb right and then because einstein looked at
Starting point is 00:33:44 him funny that's what like made him just completely sewer an american hero right it didn't feel i liked that though i i like the the einstein reveal it felt like a christopher nolan level prestige inception kind of like and i love that they kept showing when they were looking at maps it was the ripple effect that would show like where the bombs go off and the final shot being him staring blankly into that river while it's drizzling and you see the ripple go off and everything i was just like that's fucking artistic as shit that went way above my head bob thanks for pointing that out i need close there and he's like i'm afraid we did like oh that was that I came in my pants God that's good
Starting point is 00:34:28 I could use subtitles And then people explaining to me Every single thing from the movie Both in terms of historical And in terms of metaphorical stuff The YouTube documentary that you Referenced what's the name of it again I can pull it up
Starting point is 00:34:44 Because it was on peacock and a bunch of people were like raving about it on peacock and then it got put on youtube which is obviously makes it a lot easier for people to watch to end all war oppenheimer and the atomic bomb i watched like 90 of it before we went live just to kind of refresh my mind and everything and it was really well done christopher nolans and bill nye the science guy's doing it i know it's a bill nye guy so i you know who is it come on exactly so and it doesn't feel like a history lesson like you don't feel like you're like stuck in fucking seventh grade i wouldn't even say you learn a ton if you already saw oppenheimer it just confirms a lot of that stuff really like it confirms that
Starting point is 00:35:22 they were very meticulous about details and real life shit but as far as like teaching you new stuff like you watch the three-hour movie they tell you a lot yeah it stops you from having to go on wikipedia and read everything you can just watch it mindlessly on your couch or computer my favorite bomb diagrams were good when they show like how the bombs actually work i was like well okay yeah it helped me a lot i did an episode with chief uh last tuesday and he kind of like laid a lot of it out so like that was honestly a good primer to kind of get into it yeah that's a good one i watched i listened to it afterwards because i didn't know how much was going to affect the movie because it's all historical records so definitely check that on the dog walk subscribe five stars you guys know the whole deal um one of my favorite scenes i i
Starting point is 00:36:04 don't know what's my it might be my favorite scene which is such an idiot thing to say i just love when the scientists were going crazy when fission got discovered and it's all the boys celebrating here in the news oh they got fission they split the atom or whatever the hell fission means they brought the atom together i don't know but i just love that it was just scientists being dudes you know like this is what we do after like our teams win a sports championship these guys did it for like something happened to the atom i thought that was just great and um like hearted again i hearted to fuck heart and i tweeted heart and that's my pick for the next batman in the dcu i really think he could do it christopher nolan wanted
Starting point is 00:36:40 him as batman and batman begins and apparently at the, I think he was maybe having some anxiety or something. And he said, I don't want to be that famous. I don't want to be the next Batman, dude. Like, I want to just do movies that I'm into. But at this point, a little more mature, you know, a little more grizzled. I think you could pull it off. You reminded me of like Val Kilmer in this movie almost. Like a prime Val Kilmer.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He's like a good friend. He's like a son of a tired. Did he really? Yeah, he like took a little break. He's in Black Mirror this season and he's very good in it though. Oh, really? I always do. Yeah, he like took a little break. He's in Black Mirror this season, and he's very good in it, though. Oh, really? I only see him in Bruce's episode. Yeah, he's in the Aaron Paul episode.
Starting point is 00:37:10 They're awesome in it. How about let's do Josh a salad here? Let's all agree that the World War II movie with Josh Hartnett is Oppenheimer and just wipe Pearl Harbor because I'm sure like that's part of the reason he's just sick of all the bullshit he probably received in the past. Wipe that off. My favorite like I consider underrated movie is lucky number seven have you guys ever seen that it's a good one eddie you'd love it man check it out it's a great movie good revenge flick
Starting point is 00:37:33 and has some like great actors in it too ben kingsley uh morgan freeman bruce willis it's not the jim carrey one is it no that would know that oh with the number yeah what was that that was a shitty he kept seeing the one number appear and it was like 2023 or something is that lemon lem snickety or whatever it's called is it no lemony snicket it was a shitty jim carrey i remember my older brother and sister going to see it and i was i think too young to go to the theater at the time or something and they were like i was so jealous and they came back and they were like don't be jealous that was a piece of shit trying to look it up i love i loved how they aged everyone especially robert downey jr who went from like old to older it was like so subtle but it was enough that you could see it especially up
Starting point is 00:38:18 close um one thing that like kellen murphy deserves to win the oscar for a million different reasons that motherfucker had me thinking about taking up the smoking cigarettes at the age of 40 i have kids i have house i should not get into smoking now but it looks so fucking cool the way he did and oppenheimer's always smoking a butt whenever you're looking like these like documentaries am so it was very well done eddie what's your deal you disagree can i say one last thing before we he's gonna get the oscar he Oscar This is the movie of the year Are you poo-pooing it? Oh no I love Killian Murphy
Starting point is 00:38:50 Okay okay If he wins it I'll be happy But let's Let's let Killers of the Flower Moon Have their last raps Eddie you're on my mom's basement We're not friends with Martin Scorsese He shits on Marvel movies often enough where we're we're team no one
Starting point is 00:39:09 i get it i get it i get it but that to me like a lot of people are more excited for this movie oppenheimer and i loved it but that's the movie i'm more excited for this year all right fair enough well you know what can we do a flowers of the Moon podcast with you when it comes out? 100%. I mean. Didn't even have to bully him, Robbie. Or I was kind of. You put him on the spot.
Starting point is 00:39:31 You did put him on the spot, though, on a lot. Well, we all dress up for that one, too. We dress up like we're in the 40s. Yeah, we got to find another stupid movie to pair it with. And we'll be. Yeah, it's coming out on the same day. Eddie, we are going to do that now. I promise you, I am going to find the most polarizing movie
Starting point is 00:39:46 that is most opposite of that and we're gonna have to go see it as long as there's a funny name where you can lump them together i gotta pull it up and see see release dates yeah also one last person that i forget is in the movie but played such a huge fucking role which looking back my wife actually said she knew he was gonna play a good role mr robot just kind of being yeah just squirrely guy sit in the background not saying a thing but was always like kind of hovering and then just drop the hammer on strauss and fucking i mean that dude took out tony stark like thanos man it was that was nice that felt good when he did that yes motherfucker finally someone's standing up for him other than his wife and and like they're talking
Starting point is 00:40:25 about all the people and again this was another thing i really appreciate about the movie i don't know if you guys are in the same boat i'm not great with names especially people i've met like on the fly 20 seconds earlier in a movie they would be like oh you know heddle did this and then they show a picture of the guy they're talking about like oh yeah that dickhead okay yeah this guy's a bad guy this guy's a guy. So I appreciated that like style to kind of remind the audience on the fly because you have all these names flying at you. Yeah. I saw a great meme by the way of the moment where they discover vision and everything and this they're celebrating and going crazy and Oppenheimer like walks in the room and they're all like, look at this. And it just said uh my grandparents when i changed from hdmi1 to hdmi2
Starting point is 00:41:05 i thought that was real good hey do we have a we have another movie that day i'm trying what what do you know when it comes out killers of the flower moon november is it it looks like it's oscar season i think or in october yeah right now it looks like craven the hunter is the only one on this list. Oh, man. That's a superhero movie. Oh, no. It's a shitty...
Starting point is 00:41:30 Well, I shouldn't call it shitty. It's months away from coming out. It's made by Sony, who previously made the Jared Leto Morbius movie. It's a superhero movie disconnected from the Marvel Universe, but they're trying to sneak in their foot in the door. Yeah. It's probably going to be bad. So we should do that one.
Starting point is 00:41:48 It's essentially the worst case scenario. It is what you just brought to our, you know, I've seen Morbius. That's one of the four movie here. You saw one of the four superhero movies you've seen is Morbius. Why? We didn't,
Starting point is 00:41:58 we refused to go. We didn't say it. Give us the review of the movie now for everyone that wants to hear it in the basement. Ken Jack hit me up and he was like, hey, we're doing Morbius this week. I'm like, I don't really do superheroes, but I'll go see it. And I did it. You know what? It wasn't good, but I think it got more hate than it deserved.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I believe that. I believe that. You know, superhero fans want either amazing or so bad we can make fun of it and make memes and stuff and morbius had more memes making fun of it before it came out than after it came out and that kind of clued me into like i don't think it was so bad it's good i think it was just like not great yeah it was bad it was bad craven that. Craven of the Flower Moon? Is that the thing? Killers of the Hunter Moon?
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm trying to think of how we're going to lump these two movies together. Killers of the Hunter Moon is pretty good. Let's think about this a little more, guys. You know, it'll be football season. Ooh, that's true. Fair point. We'll see what gets bumped back and forth. Maybe it's a game.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Maybe we do it on a Sunday and we all watch a game together and then all go to the theater together. Listen, as of now, the week before, Paw Patrol comes out. If they bump that back a week, we could do Paw Patrol and Killers of the Flower Moon. This could be a perfect thing, Ed. Oh, wait. Not a dog guy.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I forgot about that. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. All right. You guys ready to talk Barbie? Are we allowed to? Are we allowed to talk about Barbie?
Starting point is 00:43:30 I know. Are you ready to talk Barbie? I don't want the girls in the office to come in here and get mad at us. Listen, we are men. We're three men talking Barbie right now. That's what's happening. That is straight up what is happening. We understand that.
Starting point is 00:43:42 We understand this movie was not made for us. Let's state that right off the front. We weren't the target audience. We just weren't. I don't mean to piss people off. I don't know who the target audience was. I know it was women, but was it kids or was it adults? Or was it in between or was it all of them?
Starting point is 00:43:59 Might have been all of them. We were in the theater with a bunch of kids and some of the jokes were very adult oriented including the ending of the movie but i guess they're all going to learn about that someday so it was i thought barbie was pretty good that's about as high as i would go i would say i wouldn't even say it was great i liked it i i laughed i thought it was a great like dessert after oppenheimer like it lightened the mood like we said um the oscar talk blows my mind i don't understand the oscar talk for the whole movie i think people are saying the movie gosling margot robbie greta gerwig like and for me that i just my brain like can't compute that. It kind of shuts me down internally.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I could see the song. I'm just Ken getting a best original song or something like that. I know people who love the song. Great scene. Funny scene in the movie. Margot Robbie, maybe. Just because she is Margot Robbie and she was such a big part of this. She was great in the movie.
Starting point is 00:45:01 She's very funny in the movie. Even like we're talking about Ryan Gosling, we're putting his performance up against Robert Downey Jr. Is that like what best supporting actors are going to come down to this, this summer? I don't know. Listen, I don't, again, I don't mean to sound like I'm shitting on this movie. I'm not, I just don't understand the Oscar talk for this. Maybe it's because we just saw Oppenheimer before, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I thought it was like a pretty good summer blockbuster. I think you thought, I think you had the perfect way to sum it up, Ed, when you were texting us, right? I think the, thought it was like a pretty good summer blockbuster i think you thought i think you had the perfect way to sum it up ed when you were texting us right i think the like it was good but the ending was got a little away right yeah i didn't i didn't like the ending at all i thought as soon as they did like the whole ken fight and then they moved it into like the ria perlman stuff that got like super deep i was like i don't know that's when i was like all right i'm kind of out i'm out and i and i enjoyed it i enjoyed it yeah and i'm not saying like oh we don't we don't this is not a a a man rant at all i and like like i said definitely not for me because i
Starting point is 00:45:58 i did enjoy the whole movie but that's where it just got a like a little much it was a little much and it was perfect for what it was oppenheimer was a five course meal with you know heavy fucking sides and we're talking flavors and meats and shit like that and barbie was like the little sorbet you get at a wedding with a little spoon and you're like how the fuck is this spoon so small and it's just a little something sweet you could go on your phone right i think that we could you can't go on your phone in oppenheimer. When I was in Barbie, I'm doing it responsibly. I was doing it with the screen. Responsibly.
Starting point is 00:46:30 That's the key. The people, did you see the people in front of me and my girlfriend? No. They had their fucking phone out. First of all, they like were talking in the middle of it. Like someone walked down like, hey, we're over here. They said like out loud, like, hey, we're over here in the middle of the movie. It someone walked down like, hey, we're over here. They said, like, out loud, like, hey, we're over here. In the middle of the movie.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. And then they took three, three, three, not one, not two, not three. Three selfies with the flash on. During the movie? During the movie. It was the front-facing flash. So, you know, it wasn't the full light. But with the screen lighting up white, this with three of them, me and my girlfriend were looking at each other like, are we taking crazy pills right now?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Different Will Ferrell movie or no, no flash photography in the movie theater. I had a blog the other day about a guy who got beat up in a movie theater. And I say, cause he wanted to sit in his assigned seats, kind of like Kevin. Right. And I said, you can't punish someone for wanting to sit in his assigned seats, kind of like Kevin, right? And I said, you can't punish someone for wanting to sit in the seats that they bought. And I had a list of things. Like, I think if someone spoils the movie for you,
Starting point is 00:47:31 like as you're watching it, before you watch it, punch in the face. This one might be a little extreme. I think if they give you stale popcorn, you should be allowed to punch someone in the face. Because listen, that's a big reason I go to the movies. I think if someone takes a selfie in the movie theater, three times with the flash on, punch in face. Now, maybe have your girl, if someone takes a selfie in the movie theater three times with the flash on
Starting point is 00:47:45 punch in face now maybe have your girl if it's a girl have your girl punch her in the face like i don't think there is no lines that should not be crossed it was girls so i just had to look at my girlfriend be like can you believe these women she was like we're in barbie like imagine barbie on this big screen she starts being like oh and guys don't let us take selfies in the movie theater. Yeah, I'm just like, oh, it's about me now. And listen, I'm with you guys. It was like fun. It was lighthearted. If you didn't laugh during that movie, I think there was definitely some good chuckle moments.
Starting point is 00:48:14 The people that are angry about this. Oh, that's my favorite part are the people that are angry about it. If you're angry about a Barbie movie, you have a lot of deep-seated anger issues. Or you're just trying to go viral. You're playing the internet game. You're doing your Skip Bale mistakes just to go viral. Hey, teach their own. Everyone's got to make their money some way. But I thought that was ridiculous. That was the premise of the movie.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I actually... It's one thing to hear it online, because those are people, like you said, they're doing Skip Bales. But I had people in my personal life, I was kind of woke. But I didn't mind it, because it was the premise of the movie. Give me that over a movie that's not trying to do that but yeah stuffs every little twist and every little caveat on top of it to like make it seem like it's the most progressive movie of all time i hate that way more than barbie making jokes out of it they're so they were so
Starting point is 00:49:02 front-facing with everything they were doing making jokes about even that like the goofiness of that and they i felt less up on their high horse we hate men men are the worst like by the end they say you are enough right like you don't need to be the leader you don't need to be our servants you're enough everyone's enough everyone is perfect as they are that's like the overall message of it and And just not to fucking put women down, which guess what? That's if that's not what you expected out of the Barbie movie, you walked into the wrong movie theater.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yeah. I mean, it was legitimately funny. Like there were fun parts. They, you know, the, the part where they broke the third,
Starting point is 00:49:39 they broke the third wall a lot. And they're like, if you want the fourth wall, sorry, thank you. They broke the fourth wall. The part with when they're like, if you want to accurately describe someone not looking
Starting point is 00:49:49 pretty, don't cast Marco. That's my favorite line in the movie, I think. Yeah, and then I forget what song they had the Kens play in. That was my number one note. The Matchbox 20 song. It was so funny. The fact that that was the song that they all loved and
Starting point is 00:50:05 then when they played it on the beach for their barbies dude hysterical so i was like this is ridiculous this is awesome yeah you've never seen the godfather like come on if you're a dude and you can't laugh at yourself a little bit i don't know what we're doing they had this snyder cut joke for the nerds that was a great funny s Snyder Cut reference. I thought Kate McKinnon was really funny as the fucked up Barbie that was drawn all over. She was kind of... What's the name of Angelica's doll from Rugrats? Cynthia. Good call,
Starting point is 00:50:34 Bob. She's kind of Cynthia. And I also thought Michael Cera was very funny as Alan. He's basically just Michael Cera. I can't look at Michael Cera without laughing, man. No matter what his face, I just think of George Michael Bluth and all the shit he went through in Arrested Development. And then, you know, the super bad character.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I mean, that guy just has a face. And Alan was a perfect character for him in this. I thought it was very enjoyable. Like, very enjoyable movie. We're not calling it an Oscar contender. We're not going to give it that. But if you're looking for a fun summer movie, fuck yeah. Like, if you have a girlfriend or you want to take someone on a date i would say this is the perfect date movie i i think that is like the target audience it's probably people that are
Starting point is 00:51:13 like dating age from their 20s to like you know 40s or so that grew up with it because a lot of like the girls that we went with and stuff like that they were talking about like yeah my wife was like oh i had i knew all those barbies the sugar daddy was a real barbie i know they showed it in the credits and i still didn't believe it she's like oh no that was a pooping dog that was funny pooping dog uh skipper the the sister and then there was the pregnant skipper one cannot believe that was a real barbie the one where the boobs grow yeah i mean that's probably like when dx was out though like we were crock shot and they were making their dolls boobs grow like it was the 90s and 2000s were just a different I mean, wild times. That's probably like when DX was out, though. Like, we were crotch-chopping, and they were making their dolls' boobs grow.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Like, it was the 90s and 2000s were just a different fucking world than today. And this would probably piss off a lot of people who came out back then even, right? Because it's like, what is this woke shit? But, I mean, I loved it. And like you said, basically every actor that wasn't in Oppenheimer
Starting point is 00:52:00 was in this movie. Like, it was just star-studded. Will Ferrell's agent, shout out to them, because they figured out the secret to really cashing those checks is just get behind a toy franchise. The guy made all this money from the Lego movies. Now he's cashing in Barbie. I'm sure he'll be doing some sort of Ninja Turtles
Starting point is 00:52:16 or something like that in the future. And I just like having Will Ferrell around. I think they said Mattel has like 42 brands that they're ready to make into movies now because of the success of Barbie. Oh, my God. Because of the success of Barbie. Yeah, I saw that there's a Barney movie on tap. Barney?
Starting point is 00:52:30 Daniel Blue is doing, right? The dinosaur? Yeah, and he's like, I think it's like, he described it as like, you know, Barney says, like, I love me, I love you. What if that's not true? And I was like, wait, what? What are you talking about barney i think they're making a hot wheels movie which you know that just seems like a racing movie you slap the hot wheels name on too um but yeah yeah you could just make a bunch of those so um this movie i also put it was half elf, half Lego movie.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Yes. Perfect way to put it. I got a lot of Lego vibes. The going from Barbie land to the real world was straight up at a buddy going from the North Pole there. And I love that. The visuals of it were very cool. Yeah. There's no way you're going to make that look cool or make us understand it.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So make it absurd and have some fun with it. They were very tongue in cheek. I can't imagine what anyone, unless you're taking this shit at face value, how could you could really like get angry at this? John Cena plays a fucking merman, which apparently he wasn't cast in the movie. He was just shooting something at the studio next door.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And since him and Margot Robbie were in the suicide squad together, she took a walk over and she, she thought he was hysterical hysterical she was like you want to play a merman he was like fuck yeah that's hilarious i didn't know i needed uh they they they toyed with my heartstrings too much saying there won't be barbie girl and then they said there would i know i'm with you on that i was waiting for that and then the very it wasn't the version i was waiting for yeah like that would have played so well in that movie they timed it if they dropped it perfectly yeah and they they kind of blew that so that's a good point but yeah the the narration was funny i did think the uh was it rita perlman ria perlman ria perlman yep i thought she was
Starting point is 00:54:24 good like good casting in terms of if you're gonna do the creator of barbie and the whole reason she created it i thought that was cool a little glimpse into that i didn't love the america ferrara like that whole like the i they were necessary characters but i will say like as just someone that has a wife and a daughter and a mom and i think a lot of people with any, or just a brain, I understand the message of the movie. It ain't easy being a fucking woman in this world. So the whole rant, I was like, yeah, that shit kind of sucks. Make you think about your mom a little bit,
Starting point is 00:54:53 make you sentimental about the good times playing with toys with your mom. I thought it was funny, her husband, that was doing Duolingo the whole movie, was just trying to be like, como esta bien? That's your real husband in real life. Is it really? A little fun fact for you.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Bobby, fun facts here. Come on, give me some more, Rob. I feel like you got a whole bunch of stuff. I think that was the last fun fact I had written down. And that brings us to the end of the Barbenheimer, Oppen Harvey podcast. I'm making my call, too, from this movie. And everyone who watches the Secret ofasion uh podcast now the graphic actor uh kingsley ben adir which again having a name kingsley ben when there's a ben kingsley be
Starting point is 00:55:31 kingsley ben adir that guy rules uh he's like he's one of the cans he was like like the main backup ken basically he was a black guy okay okay i think the tennis racket at the end with the headband yes yeah in Yeah. In secret invasion. It hasn't been a great show and his character. I haven't really liked, but the actor is just so awesome. I'm buying all my stock. I'm going all in on that.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I haven't felt this good about like an entertainment figure since I went with Bruno Mars back when he was coming on. I'm talking Bruno level. I said, Bruno was going to be doing a halftime show within 10 years. I think he did it within like three years after I made that proclamation. This guy, I'm saying Oscar. This guy's not for Barbie.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Not for Barbie. But I'm saying Oscar, you're marking here now, July 25th, 2023. Hey, for his next movie, the Bob Marley biopic, he's playing Bob Marley. Maybe that's going to be where the trophy comes from. If I call that within six months. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine he beat out Cillian Murphy tough that would break my heart that would break my heart what what did it cost everything this whole thing man i thank you two both for doing it because it has a fun name barbenheimer this is actually going to be like the worst thing ever because you know future movies studios are going to try to just lump two movies together and to get you like horrible skits about it yeah it's like
Starting point is 00:56:49 it's like 50 to see two movies you're just sitting in a theater for you know six plus hours tom cruise is probably living right now that mission impossible has just vanished from everyone's minds and these are going to be known as the people that saved the movie industry for this month or whatever it may be. But this shit was pure America, capitalism and war. That's what Barbenheimer is all about. If they released this on 4th of July, it would have been perfect.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It was an absolute blast. And I got to hang out with Eddie in the basement, Bob. How beautiful is that? Hey, I said not the basement this week. It's the Mojo Dojo. I was sorry. I was scrolling through texts.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I was looking through one of mine and Robbie's old conversations because you threw that praise on that guy, the next Bruno Mars. We're getting Bruno Mars vibes. Robbie, we never addressed. I'm sorry to turn this a little dark, but you texted me. We were texting about Creed 3. Do you remember this? Oh, yeah. this little dark but you texted me we were texting about creed three do you remember this oh yeah and this guy like this guy was talking about majors and this and that and then like the next day it flipped crazy that was that was an all-time bad production oh dude all time like
Starting point is 00:58:03 in the timing was unreal i meant to like make a joke i was like yeah sorry bob yeah major went minor yeah we don't even bring up his character in marvel who's like the most important should be the most important being in the universe right now we're like i don't know if we can even say like yeah do you understand eddie that they've built the entire marvel universe around him no did they really he's supposed to No. Did they really? He's supposed to be the next Thanos, and he's supposed to be the next villain for everybody.
Starting point is 00:58:31 The next Avengers movie on the slate is called The Kang Dynasty. He's Kang. Oh my gosh. That is a dark, dark turn to get my guest on. I'm going to stare off into the drizzle like Oppenheimer now.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah, Bob looks like Albert Einstein after you told him that. I'm sorry, but that gets you in for bullying. We deserve it. We deserve it. Thank you for coming on, and thank you for doing the six hours in the movie theater.
Starting point is 00:59:05 This was a very fun podcast. Go see Oppenheimer. Go see Barbie. I mean, if you watched the whole podcast, we kind of spoiled everything for you. But they're still good movies. Go see them. Everyone's going to be talking about them, not only now, but come award season. Everyone's going to be like, you didn't fucking see Oppenheimer back in the day.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Go see it. And we'll talk to you for the secret invasion finale recap next.

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