My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 295 - THROWBACK THEATER: 'BOOGIE NIGHTS (1997)'

Episode Date: August 4, 2023

Robbie and Clem discuss the Paul Thomas Anderson classic, 'Boogie Nights (1997)' as Robbie had never seen it before this week! Plus, a little Fantastic Four news and Summerslam talk! 3Chi: Use code B...ASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! C4: C4 Ultimate Energy is the official energy drink of SummerSlam this year, and the C4 Ultimate x WWE collaboration is now exclusively available at GNC Factor: Head to FACTORMEALS.com/robbie50 and use promo code robbie50 for 50% off your first box! Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to the website, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). #BoogieNights #FantasticFour ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome back to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3C. I am your host, Robbie Fox, along with my co-host, Clem, and we are finally here to do our Boogie Nights podcast. I mean, look at us. We're dressed the part, you know, we're trying to dress the part is what we're really trying. I don't know how people dressed in 1977. You know, I have a lot of Star Wars shirts, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:00:32 nah, I don't think that would be right. We've been talking about this forever, Clem. I don't even really know how it first came up. I think you just made a reference to Boogie Nights at some point. And then another reference came along and another one. I had never
Starting point is 00:00:45 seen the movie i watched it for the first time this week hopefully a lot of our listeners did the same and this was what would you call it one of your favorites or just one that you watched a bunch or why did this come up so i think i must have mentioned it in an old podcast once or twice and you're like oh i've never seen it i'm like oh i just one of those in the genre i thought maybe it had crossed your desk at some point and uh looking back makes sense it didn't and then i think when we were doing the whole road trip talk it was like this then somehow got placed number two because there's certain parts of this movie that just always make me laugh because how how ridiculous some of the characters and moments are.
Starting point is 00:01:25 So I think I applied in something like that. And then my guy, Bob Fox, goes in, watches this movie. Not only has Robbie Fox never seen Boogie Nights, Robbie Fox didn't even know what Boogie Nights was about. Which is just one of the funniest things to me. That you went into this movie about the porn industry in the 70s into the 80s with some of the most ridiculous characters and an absolute star-studded cast my guy robbie fox just was on a ride had no idea where he was going this boogie nights recap is brought to you by three chi of all the things in life one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want
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Starting point is 00:03:11 promo code basement 15. That's basement one five to take 15% off your order must be 21 or older to purchase. Please use responsibly. Now let's get back into this boogie nights recap. Quick little story this reminds me uh my sister went uh she's not a big horror movie person doesn't like scary movies at all like doesn't even like scary moments like she watched game of thrones hand over eyes whenever you know there was any kind of scary parts coming up so it's not just horror movies
Starting point is 00:03:43 she went to see a comedy movie in the movie theater. It's like, ah, this will be fun. I know these guys. These are a lot of funny guys in this movie like Seth Rogen, Daryl from The Office, James Franco, Jonah Hill. That was This Is The End. So she went to see This Is The End and
Starting point is 00:04:00 was completely just fucking shook and was basically like stuck in her seat and you're in the movie theater was basically like stuck in her seat. And you're in the movie theater paralyzed, basically. And my guy, Robbie, was at his home in a much different sense. But you had a whole lot of shit put on your plate. Yeah, I truly had no idea what it was about. Like, I knew it had a good soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I knew it had a great cast. I didn't even know it starred Mark Wahlberg when like I first was talking about it with you. That was stunning to me. The whole cast was stunning. I mean, every time someone comes on screen, you're like, oh, my God, they're in this, too. That's awesome. But I foolishly just kind of confused it with like Saturday Night Fever, a movie I've seen before. But like I thought it would be a movie in the same vein.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's not that. It's different. Like, yeah, I got 10 minutes into it and I text you like, what the fuck is this movie about? Oh, my God. But I got to say, I was surprised when I tweeted. I'm watching Boogie Nights for the first time and you tweeted it earlier in the week. Hey, we're watching it for the podcast this week. The love and support that this movie has. Like, I don't know. Is it a cult classic or is it just a classic
Starting point is 00:05:06 because it seems like people fucking love boogie nights and i was like oh my god where were these people my whole life because i didn't even know this was a movie about porn that's actually a great question i feel like it's bigger than cult classic but i don't know if it's big enough for classic and it's just one of those movies that's like a great almost i don't want to say a comfort movie but when it's on you're just gonna watch it and you can't really even say if it's big enough for classic and it's just one of those movies that's like a great almost i don't want to say a comfort movie but when it's on you're just gonna watch it and you can't really say if it's on tv because it loses a lot of the allure i imagine when it's on like network tv they even aired it on network tv i feel like it kind of it loses a good chunk of uh of the story and whatnot so that's a that's a great question because i was talking to rico bosco about it he i think he's a
Starting point is 00:05:46 fan of boogie and ice because he texted me like hey after you watch it let me know what you think he let me know that bill simmons is like apparently a super fan of this movie and bill simmons did a four-hour podcast on it recently which that's crazy but hey if this is your movie it's your movie and rico called it a cult classic so i was like i i believe him if it is but so many people were like oh my god you're gonna love it and i did love it like i was actually pleasantly surprised at how much i liked this movie because it was hyped so much i thought oh it's a classic like i'll watch it i'll enjoy it it's kind of how taxi driver was for me i did that for eddie's podcast where we all watched it for the first time.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And I was like, all right, I'm glad I checked that off the list. But I wasn't over the moon about how much I loved Taxi Driver. Boogie Nights, I was like, that movie was fucking awesome. Like, the entire time it had me hooked, had me captivated. I thought the first half of it felt a lot like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, where it's just like vibes cool setting cool outfits cool cars and it's you know on the rise on the come up and then the second half obviously gets dark it's serious and i mean it feels like tarantino movies in different ways
Starting point is 00:06:58 in the second half i would say but the whole time i was like all right i see why this is a classic i see why people love this movie. It's awesome. So I looked it up. It was nominated for three Academy Awards, Best Original Screenplay, Best Supporting Actress, and Best Supporting Actor, right? So it's like, does that almost make it too good to be a cult classic? People call Big Lebowski a cult classic, and I'm like, that almost feels like it's too good to be a cult classic.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But at the time it wasn't like the biggest movie and like the humor was different. I think the world's humor has kind of gone that direction a little more recently. So maybe it changes. I know Simmons is like a diehard boogie nights guy. I'm sure their, their podcast is probably a lot more in depth than ours.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And you know, it's all the things. Looking to learn, listen to them. Yeah. We're just going to talk about it. Like the idiots that we are i'd be flat out i'll tell you right now paul thomas anderson made the movie right i always get him confused with wes anderson the weirdo who makes all the fucking little wacky stuff and i was like i don't know why i like boogie night so much but all his other shit i you know i either hit or miss me there are
Starting point is 00:08:02 a few that i like but there's a few that I just don't hit the mark with me. And I never understood how he went from boogie nights to everything he's done recently. This now makes a lot more sense. Yeah. What else has Paul Thomas Anderson done? Do you have his IMDb page pulled up? I just had it. I just had it pulled up.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Hold on a second. So because I looked it up last night as well. I do this every time I watch a movie. I have to have like the IMDb second screen pretty much handy. But what were the other ones he's done? So it's pretty interesting too. So we're just talking director, right? We're just going to talk about director.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, because I know he's done a ton of music videos. He does like Radiohead and Haim music videos constantly. So he did Magnolia, which I think I saw once. I didn't love it. Punch Drunk Love. He did. Let's see. There Will Be Blood. I think I've only seen that.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Oh, I've seen There Will Be Blood. That's yeah, that's his most famous. I would say that's a movie that I felt like and this is going to be a hot take. Get the talkies graphic ready. This people are going to hate me for this. There Will Be Blood, I think think falls off in the second half. It's got a great final scene with the bowling alley and shit, but Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:09:10 the second half of that movie drags in my opinion. So there will be blood 2007. I didn't see it. There was, I wanted to see it. I just never got, there's a few movies that I really wanted to see. And it's from like those older times. There will be blood. I haven't seen gangs in New York yet. Again, all movies really wanted to see and it's from like those older times there will be blood
Starting point is 00:09:26 i haven't seen gangs in new york yet again all movies i wanted to see just never got around to it back thanks in new york add that to our list that could be next because i haven't seen it either there we go beautiful so we'll both be going in blind um but like you had like you asked this movie it's a good movie like i think the bones of it are good but it also has stuff i think because i just watched re on the rewatch it's a lot more depressing than when i watched it when i was younger when i was younger you're you're singing the stupid songs you're naming the stupid names they name each other uh and you know like mark walberg's character eddie or whatever you want to call him dirk he's like stunted in growth because he leaves his house he's still a fucking kid right and he is doing the martial arts and the kung fu which makes him
Starting point is 00:10:09 every single time that stuff that like you and your high school buddies will like just quote you know what i mean yeah and when i watch it now as an old man kids mortgage wife i'm like man this gets fucking like even before it gets dark it still kind of has a little dark vibes to it. But it always, back in the day, it always put me in a good mood. Even the Philip Seymour Hoffman, I'm an idiot. I'm a fucking idiot. It's one of my go-to like gifts that I used to use in blogs
Starting point is 00:10:35 whenever I would get something wrong. So, and by the way, in terms of quality, Bob, this episode of My Mom's Basement is the highest upgrade of quality of something we reviewed considering our last episode we went from secret invasion finale to boogie nights i mean we just shot through the fucking roof through the goddamn atmosphere through the moon through the fucking milky way we are in another galaxy right now from where we were last week on secret invasion i think secret invasion at the time of our recording had like a 13 the final episode on
Starting point is 00:11:05 rotten tomatoes i'm pretty sure it's down to about eight percent now and boogie nights on the other hand has like 97 on rotten tomatoes so i think that is statistically factual what you just said there um off the top though before we fully get into boogie nights we do have some fantastic four news for the nerds a lot of denials of who's playing who and not a lot of announcements of who's playing who but adam driver has reportedly turned down the role of reed richards he couldn't connect to the character on the script worries me a little bit but it is what it is they've offered that role to matt smith who played dr who at one point he was in morbius as. He's a good actor.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But they're saying maybe Adam Driver could still play him. Adam Driver is apparently also up for Lex Luthor, which I'm not down for, to be honest. He got offered Lex Luthor in Batman vs. Superman, had to turn it down to do Kylo Ren. I just think Kylo Ren
Starting point is 00:12:01 with a shaved head is a cursed look. I'm not ready to see Adam Driver and his ears flopping around. So I'm out on that. And Margot Robbie will also not be playing Sue Storm. That will be likely Vanessa Kirby, who was in the Mission Impossible movies, or at least one of them. She was really good in Mission Impossible Fallout. So I'm really down for that casting. First of all, put some on matt smith's name of
Starting point is 00:12:26 who he plays he plays the prince damon targaryen that's right me and nicky hamilton that's our guy we're damon damon guys and we have to fucking we have to like basically live with all the bad shit he does because when he does good shit we feel like we're fucking like you know that's our guy he fucks us up sometimes he does good stuff and he crushed the role i think i'm not gonna lie i forgot i totally forget he was so good in that role that he transformed into damon targaryen for me and i forgot it was matt smith i'll be honest when you said matt smith the only reason why because you used to call him matt smith and we're like dude puts it's damon call him damon and now he's morphed into the character so much
Starting point is 00:13:05 you didn't even use that because you were always the guy that called him matt smith that's funny how that all works out uh i i mean i love that even though you're just thinking of i'm thinking of his damon and that jump to reed richards should be interesting it is tough that the john krasinski has already set a bar from playing him for like five fucking minutes in a movie that it's like he has to clear that bar. It's unfair to him. It's unfair to the character. I do thank Adam Driver for not trying to push it,
Starting point is 00:13:34 not trying to get that check and just, you know, mailing it in or just doing what he could do, knowing if he wasn't going to be able to crush it because we need some fucking hits here. We're on like an 0 for 5 slump right now in the well i guess guardians was good but like in terms of like most of the shit we are struggling i need them fantastic four needs to be a smash hit x-men needs to be a smash hit the next avengers needs to be a smash hit along with like a couple singles and doubles along the way from all these other
Starting point is 00:14:00 projects that they have so uh i'm happy i'm happy with matt smith i don't know my vanessa kirby i'm looking at her she doesn't really look that familiar mission impossible dead reckoning one the crown uh she is in the new mission possible i haven't seen the new one yet because you know barbenheimer tom cruise is probably pissed about that but it is what it is did you see that fucking fact that i just, I blogged about yesterday? What was that? The Tom Cruise Shakira thing? No. AMC said they had their best week in the 103 year history of the company last week.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Thanks to the Barbenheimer's message, which has to piss Tom Cruise so much that they're getting all the credit for that. And his movie was like the third or fourth biggest reason why this happened. And that's great. Wouldn't you think that at some point there was like a Will Smith blockbuster, a Marvel movie, some fucking Shrek three or something all came out around the same time just for this like perfect storm of movie making movie money making. And somehow that was their biggest week. And that was Barbenheimer's like second or third week out too it's crazy yeah that's crazy i saw that they extended the oppenheimer 70 millimeter lincoln
Starting point is 00:15:11 square run by a week and i was like oh perfect i looked at every single show time 10 a.m to late night i couldn't get myself a single ticket i almost went on stubhub looking to get myself like a ticket at lincoln square oh craziness craziness um some further fantastic four news jack quaid was rumored to be playing uh johnny storm the human torch and everyone was excited about this because how could you not be huey from the boys is amazing and he tweeted immediately hey i'm gonna shut this down here's a link to donate to the Screen Actors Guild and the writers. He kind of got ahead of it to use that as a promotional tactic to talk about the strike and stuff. So I thought that was cool. And then it got announced that a different JQ was the one who got the role.
Starting point is 00:15:58 It was not Jack Quaid. It was Joseph Quinn, a.k.a. Eddie from Stranger Things, who's another actor who we love. So I'm happy for him. He's one of the few actors where I'm not just purely disappointed that it isn't Jack Wade. I could actually be excited a little bit about it as well. Also, Cousin Richie from The Bear got rumored to be the thing. Now they're saying he's not the thing, but he might still be in the movie as the silver surfer or another role they're saying galactus will be the main villain that is rumored to be someone hispanic possibly antonio banderas which would be pretty sick as well so fantastic four is
Starting point is 00:16:37 chugging along it's it's getting there i'm ready for them to just come out with four family members that are officially announced for this to be you you know, the guessing game to be over. It was like every 15 minutes we had like another like dribbling out of an announcement. And it was it was pretty fucking annoying at that. I love how someone probably had JQ was like the initials and that's all they got is their scoop. They completely went to the wrong guy. That seems like it would have happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And like nerd. That would happen in like succession to like they would get jq and they'd be like fuck it run with it what are the odds it's joseph quinn it's got to be jack quaid right it's got to be jack quaid put it out there oh man and yeah shout out to eddie from stranger things uh i mean i won't spoil anything about that season for people haven't watched yet but we were huge fans of him and uh like again i i like him so much i'm just like scared that if this thing flops he's gonna be the fucking uh target for everyone's barb is like this fucking guy they've ruined fantastic for like because they're fantastic for flops that
Starting point is 00:17:37 will be known as like the death of the mcu right like they could have they could have hiccups on tv shows and things like quantum mania which were supposed supposed to be big hits, but you flop on like the premiere of one of your signature brands. Marvel's first family. Yeah. Yeah. Marvel's first family. You can't flop on that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Especially like I've said this before on the podcast, but the Incredibles is just about the greatest fantastic four movie you could ever make. And it's like, how do you outdo that? You just look at that, use that as the blueprint and translate that to live action like do some fun stuff with the effects it's such a good concept of an actual family look how much we loved guardians 3 which is a movie about family essentially just trying to keep one family member alive which i talked to glennie balls about today i texted you this clem uh glennie went and watched guardians 3 because it's on disney plus finally so if you haven't seen it make sure you go back and watch it amazing movie one of my
Starting point is 00:18:29 favorite movies of the year and he was talking about the high evolutionary and how much of a bastard he was and he was like yeah that guy the king hereditary what a motherfucker and i loved that the king hereditary because hereditary kind of sounds like it could be you know his name it's very close i awarded him you know points for getting close there that that was a three out of five balls in terms of effort there the execution wasn't there but you know the ball scale isn't always about execution it's about how you tried glenny that's very glenny would appreciate this that is very tony soprano one of my favorite things about the sopranos is how they would always mispronounce things
Starting point is 00:19:06 or thinking one thing, but they were completely off on it. The king... What is it? The king... The king hereditary. Hereditary. Yes. That's our guy. Oh, shout out Balls. I think Balls should throw his hat in the ring for a Fantastic Four
Starting point is 00:19:22 character. Oh, for the thing? The thing. Ooh, the plenty of the thing. It would be a great thing. You throw that guy in front ring for a fantastic four character oh for the thing the thing oh the glenny would be a great thing uh like you throw that guy in front of the casting director and tell them to say no that's what i'm gonna say right like the only thing is ben grim is kind of like rough around the edges glenny doesn't have a mean bone in his body no that's the only thing you're right maybe there could be like there had to be like an arc where like the thing became really nice and yeah maybe it's a new take on the character. Like the thing giggles and little crumbs come out of him when he giggles.
Starting point is 00:19:50 The thing giggles. I was making Glennie giggle a lot this week. I was just calling him a scumbag and I was really making him giggle. I just walked up to him and said, what's up, you scumbag? Really get him going. Now, before we get into Boogie N and we're gonna go deep on boogie nights i have oh we're going to be we're going deep real deep look at these guys see these guys are here on youtube these guys are going to say we're showing um i've got trivia from imdb and
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Starting point is 00:21:53 One of the things that they like to us to talk about during these outreach is SummerSlam moments that we remember and love. My first pay-per-view ever was SummerSlam 2007. The first one I ever attended live. It was at the Continental Airlines Arena, which is now shut down. It became the Izod Center in Jersey. And it was awesome. It was just everything I would want it to be.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It was the return of Triple H and Rey Mysterio, both from knee injuries or quad injuries. It was the first time John Cena and Randy Orton faced each other on pay-per-view in the main event. Great pay-per-view, great night. My nephew's going to have his first SummerSlam this weekend. Mirroring experience. But I also wanted to bring up one match that is underappreciated that I want people to go back and watch. WrestleMania X had a ladder match for the ages between razor ramon and sean michaels for the two intercontinental championships a lot of people don't know there was a rematch at summerslam
Starting point is 00:22:51 another ladder match between those two guys that is awesome unfortunately it starts with a hiccup because they raised the belts too high and sean michaels is trying to point it out he's like those belts are too high we cannot reach those with the ladder you know in the center of the ring and it just the communication didn't get there so they had to lower the belts at one point during the match and everything but everyone go back and watch that because if you like that classic ladder match at wrestlemania 10 you'll love the ladder match at SummerSlam. And I was going to say, for my end, 92, it was the Wembley Stadium, Bret Hart versus the British Bulldog.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And that was, I mean, that felt like the biggest SummerSlam moment ever. It was such a build-up. It may still be. Yeah, it was absolutely enormous. So that kind of is the first thing that really just shells out like summer slam that was you know a lot of times wrestlemania is like the big thing on the calendar i would feel like that was the wrestlemania main event that was a fucking showstopper and that was for the intercontinental championship as well it wasn't even for the world title and it felt like the biggest match on the card because it was with
Starting point is 00:24:02 the british bulldog in the main event who who Bret Hart claims forgot everything that they worked on and called the second they hit the ring. He said they got in the ring and the British Bulldog was like, I'm fucked. You got to get me through it, Bret. And he was like, oh, Jesus Christ. Brother-in-law's the worst. Yeah. All right. Let's get into Boogie Nights.
Starting point is 00:24:21 A couple of the first IMDb trivia facts that I wrote down that I found super interesting. The entire film is based on a short film also by Paul Thomas Anderson called The Dirk Diggler Story, which is very Spinal Tap-esque, mockumentary style about Dirk Diggler. And the man who Don Cheadle is talking to in the stereo store is Michael Stein, who played Dirk Dk digler in that short film the original script for this movie was 300 pages they cut it down to 180 for people that don't know generally uh one page of the script is one minute of screen time so 300 page script is outrageous that's crazy and then this one i also thought was super interesting burt reynolds hated the idea of doing a movie that promoted the porn industry and sex and violence and the way that this movie does basically he turned down the role of jack horner seven different
Starting point is 00:25:17 times it felt like he was selling out letting his old fans down and after angrily telling paul thomas anderson the last time he was offered that he wasn't interested and to leave him alone anderson said if you could carry that attitude with you into the role you would be nominated for an oscar um he was pushed to do it eventually he was down on his luck and he didn't have a decent offer in a long time so he said fuck it i'm just gonna do it i'm gonna give it my best and he was later nominated for best actor in a supporting role he did not win that and many people believe it's because he refused to promote
Starting point is 00:25:50 the movie he regretted doing it and he was like fuck that crazy crazy and he i you really can't even imagine anyone else's jack horner right it's like he just crushed that role so well he was so fucking cool i know burt rey Reynolds is the epitome of cool. Everyone has always said that. Like our father's version of cool is Burt Reynolds. I was watching this as someone that I think I just said, I don't think I've ever seen a Burt Reynolds movie before this. I was just like, oh, I get it.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I absolutely get it. All the legends about this guy. And it's, you know, his first scene, he walks into the back with Mark Wahlberg and he's like, you want to watch me jerk off or whatever? And I was just like, this guy and it's you know his first scene he walks into the back with mark walberg and he's like you want to watch me jerk off or whatever and i was just like this guy's still cool only burt reynolds could walk into the kitchen of a club and it's like yeah he could just do that it's burt you know and and he plays like the boss role in this film but he also plays like the fatherly role where he will yell you if you fuck up but he'll also like pick you back up if you
Starting point is 00:26:44 need it and give you a hug which was very unique and it's crazy i read i think he said he fired his agent over the role and he was just really pissed and i i had a list i saw a list of some other people that either declined it or passed it up uh bill mur i don't know how many of these are completely accurate but it said bill murray harvey kytel warren baity albert brooks and sydney pollack were all uh declined or passed up the role of jack corner which went after seven after every one of those guys said no they were like all right you sure you don't want to do this okay we're gonna go get someone else that's just so strange to me because all of those guys have such raunchy filmographies and careers
Starting point is 00:27:19 and you know bill murray like his monolog, everything about these people don't don't seem like they would be like, oh, porn. We can't make a movie where we talk about porn. Like, I guess it was a different world in 97. This is a year before I was born, but it seems friggin foreign to me because like if you made this movie today, I think people would be like, yeah, sure. Like a list actors, the top of the top would accept this today, I think. Yeah, and that's that's exactly it. I mean, different world i mean think about it think about all like the pushback kfc radio had about having asa kira on and like that was barstool when we knew what barstool was and even then in what was that 2016 17 ish people were like oh i don't know sales with a show with a porn star so you're always
Starting point is 00:28:05 gonna have people who are very much against it in the 90s the 90s were a wild time i lived through it i was a teenager going through puberty during it it was awesome but it was like there's still and there's to this day there's still a lot of people that don't get down with that so um yeah that's a very interesting one i saw um uh said here samuel jackson declined the role of buck which i had no idea about and then some of the people that were up for roller girl were gwyneth paltrow drew barrymore and tatum o'neill but it ended up going to uh obviously heather graham because uh i guess he said he didn't he didn't consider her and he had never seen her do nudity in film and uh she's another one that she's just crushing and these people it feels like they got a lot of these actors on the come up right before they blew up
Starting point is 00:28:50 and yeah it's it's i mean the cast is so fucking ridiculous it's as star-studded a cast as you could ask for and on the flip side of someone you know burt reynolds regretting the movie someone regretted turning this down and that's leonardo dicaprio was offered the lead role dirk digler eddie adams and he loved the screenplay but had to turn it down to do titanic and later on was x like what's the one movie you wish you would have done and he said it was this it was boogie nights he was the one who suggested mark walberg for the role however so he at least was like hey throw, throw Marky Mark in there. Did Mark Wahlberg, was he a name before Boogie Nights?
Starting point is 00:29:29 Was he Marky Mark before this? He was. He was Marky Mark before this and the Funky Bunch. Don't forget about the Funky Bunch, Bob. Don't you dare. Hand up. I forgot about the Funky Bunch. And he was in Basketball Diaries with Leo. So I think they were already cool at that point.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And they both play like, because Leo, it's kind of a you know the similar role where it's like this like bright-eyed kid who gets into drugs and kind of have you seen basketball diaries yeah i i don't know if i've ever seen the full movie but i think i've seen 75 of it on like tnt okay okay and that's not what we have to do in the basement i i watched it it's fucking depressing but uh i remember thinking it wasn't great i remember not really loving it it's fucking depressing but uh i remember thinking it wasn't great i remember not really loving it it didn't hook me yeah it was all right like and i'm a basketball fan i thought it was a lot more basketball than the diaries i guess part of it uh so it's cool that he i mean like just an all-time assist right there right it says this
Starting point is 00:30:18 kind of puts him on makes him like a legit actor and i think i think gave him a little bit of credit now this is probably trying to think like so if mark walberg is like the inspiration for entourage right yeah that's like what is the vinnie chase is this vinnie chase's is this his uh queen's boulevard or queen's boulevard yeah i don't know that's his final scene. Because the other two movies, it was, it was basketball diaries and fear. And he was like, awesome in fear. I think he like just the,
Starting point is 00:30:50 he had the face for it. Right. So it does feel like this is the thing that kind of put him on another role. It's like, dude, this guy can carry a film. He had the look,
Starting point is 00:30:59 he was young. He had the funky bunch. So he was cool. The fucking Calvin Klein ads. It was like, there was always a little bit of Mark Wahlberg though. It's like, yeah, you weren't the funky bunch dude. was cool the fucking kyle van kline ads he was like there was always a little bit of mark walberg though it's like yeah you weren't the funky bunch dude like i feel like to this day people still give him shit about that yeah um and the last fact before we get into like
Starting point is 00:31:15 our actual notes on the movie another person who shied away from the porn industry until he saw the movie electric light orchestras jeff lynn they wanted to use the song live and thing which is in the movie and he had a problem with the sex and violence and movies at the time so they said listen what if we just show you the movie with the song in it and then you can tell us whether or not you want it he watched it and he loved it so much that he allowed the song to be used so that's just the story of don't judge a book by its cover you know you hear a movie glorifying the porn industry it's not really glorifying it it's kind of doing the opposite it's doing what the irishman did to the the mob scene and glorifying that it's so much like that's just life too like you have all these people who've never met each other they use the
Starting point is 00:31:59 medium it's like oh this guy's actually pretty cool i just never and it kind of goes with the movies as well um i had i never heard that fun fact before this soundtrack is so fucking good and it's it's like there's there's smash hits on here but then there's also like oh that song that song it's just like those perfect transition songs between scenes as well so it kind of hits both sides of it you know so i oh i that's probably another reason why i just love turning this movie on because you're always going to have a song you're popping your head to every 10 minutes or so it's james gunn-esque honestly and at the end you see a mixtape that says the awesome mixtape it doesn't say awesome mix but it says the awesome mixtape and i I was like, is that a little bit of inspiration or something?
Starting point is 00:32:47 I don't know. But this, like, I don't know if everyone's going to agree. Very much a lot of it played like a Tarantino movie to me. I felt like, oh, shit, like I could see Tarantino taking inspiration from this. Like I said, the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood being the main one, because it's kind of that slice of lifestyle. It's not beginning middle and end even paul thomas anderson says like the characters at the end of the movie haven't really changed much from the beginning of the movie none of them go on this huge character
Starting point is 00:33:15 arc where they're completely different people by the end even eddie he's like mentally he's kind of in the same place uh I was just looking this up too. So I don't see any, I don't see any links between James gun and the, the awesome mix, but God damn, that would have been awesome. I almost have to ask him.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Maybe we got to ask him one day. Yeah. Cause I've seen this movie a tons of times, but I probably haven't seen it since I became obsessed with guardians and I was, it did the fucking Leo pointing me like a goddamn ansel and that was in a scene with uh future dr octopus alfred melina i that was my nose for that one i was like doc ock just fuck and oh that scene gives me the willies just thinking about it you're just on you were must have been on pins and needles
Starting point is 00:33:58 for all that oh yeah so let's get into it awesome Awesome intro scene. The one take through the club. So frigging cool. Kind of like Goodfellas-esque through it. And as soon as they open with the 1977 name card or title card or whatever, I was like, oh, we better get a Star Wars reference at some point. This is a movie that takes place in California in 1977. We better get one. And of course, we got one because I assume star Wars was dominating every conversation in California in 1977.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Every, yeah. Every, the whole fucking country, right? If you had a movie theater anywhere in your town, someone was talking about it. The like those like one shot scenes or whatever. And then it's I saw here, Paul Thomas Anderson, big Scorsese guy wants to kind of step it up like his idol. And it fucking nails.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's the perfect way to kind of be like, here's the world you're in. Here's the characters. You're all, you know, get to know each other. This fucking music's awesome during it all. And it just ropes you right in the fucking, the,
Starting point is 00:34:57 the boogie night sign. And then the, did it, did it, the disco music coming on. And you're like, all right, let's,
Starting point is 00:35:02 and that's probably what it is. It's probably turn that movie on and my anxiety just disappears. Cause it just puts you, I would have loved to have been alive during the seventies. It just seems like such a fucking, just sweet ass time, you know, fucking free love,
Starting point is 00:35:16 have some fun. Eighties, not so much. Seventies are fucking cool, man. Yeah. Eighties seems everyone started doing synth music and shit in the eighties. You got to wait around until the nineties for rock to really come back hard and heavy and whatnot. The Boogie Nights sign that is in the beginning of this movie, apparently he put that shot we're putting boogie nights right in the middle of it that's what i'm calling this movie you also you have that title and the music that begins with it i think um well within my rights to confuse it with saturday night fever
Starting point is 00:35:54 so that's what i'm saying at this point you're like all right i'm settling in i this is exactly what i was expecting i was expecting saturday night fever we're dancing we're on we're on in the club having i was expecting people doing coke which we got in this movie, but in a much different way. I was stunned to see Don Cheadle, which I probably shouldn't have been stunned because I assume you've mentioned that in the basement. Like, oh, yeah, Don Cheadle's in it. But I thought it was great seeing, like, a young Don Cheadle basically just be a young Don Cheadle. Like, his whole character the whole time was just like, that's how I expect him to act. Like kind of the way he is in Day of Joy, he plays himself.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Yeah, he's like kind of a nerdy guy, but he's cool because he's fucking still Don Cheadle. It is kind of funny how that all works out. Don Cheadle, I'm looking at like anything else he was in before this in terms of like a big movie or like even a TV show. Oh shit, he was in Hanging with terms of like a big movie or like even a TV show? Oh, shit. He was in Hanging with Mr. Cooper.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Never knew that one. He was I didn't know until Iron Man, which Iron Man 2. I was still fairly young. I think I was like 10 when that came out. So so when I see Don Cheadle, the first thing I think of is Basher from Ocean's Eleven and Ocean's Eleven. Oh, yeah. What am I at one point? I don't know where it stands now.
Starting point is 00:37:05 It was in my top 10 it was a movie that i would fall asleep to every night like at like around high school or college it was just one of the movies you just put it on and i could just you know laugh you kind of pay attention and just pass out during it and i always just think of basher we're in barney rubble trouble all that kind of stuff and i consider myself like the biggest oceans 11 fan i knew and then like jeff d lowLo just blew me out of the water. He's like fucking like Oceans 11, Oceans maybe trilogy. He's like on another level. He made gifts for his fucking hockey team with using Oceans.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I'm like, all right, Jeff, you have the baton for the Oceans 11 guy. But that was always my Don Cheadle. Traffic was another one that was big that he was in. But him as Buck in Boogie Nights was just fucking awesome. Yeah, you thought you were the Oceans fan, and then you came in to see Jeff's triple screen monitor set up with
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Starting point is 00:39:29 That's by the way, was this lady Fox? Was she partaking in this as well? Are you solo? Oh yeah. No, no lady Fox as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And she had no idea what she was getting into either. No idea. But she enjoyed it as well. She liked it. Good. Good. I feel weird. Just throwing a girl into this blindly.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I'm like, Robbie, I've known you since you were a teenager. So it's like, and granted, like your big moment at Barstool came with you saying when you wouldn't come yourself. But still, like, I still like, I'm bringing this to the kids. I'm letting a kid watch this for the first time. You're mid-20s.
Starting point is 00:39:57 You're a fucking rock and roll star. Yeah, 25 now. You might tell me a thing or two about being a girl. And it just felt odd. I did like someone replied to your tweet and they were like is robbie old enough to watch that like i don't know if you should be looking at that made me laugh every now and then a chirp gets through where i'm like that was a really good one um john c reilly i love his intro scene so goddamn funny so john c reilly
Starting point is 00:40:22 the way he says uh you know have you seen star wars a lot of people saying i look like that guy han solo and he's just one-upping everything that uh dirk digler says um we also see frank gallagher william h macy as why wrote the og cuck and that was funny when i first wrote it and then later on in the movie it didn't become so funny my the plight of little bill is one of the one of the parts of this movie that just gets more and more like sad as it goes along um his wife by the way nina hartley legit porn star so she is yeah i wrote down a fact about her as well um when they did inside the actor's studio in 94 willie or i guess no that couldn't have been in 94 because this is 97 movie um william h macy recalled that at the wrap party for this movie
Starting point is 00:41:11 nina hartley uh brought all of her own porn films to everyone from the cast macy's present was a copy of nina hartley's guide to anal sex nice nice That's something to give your fictional husband. Perfect gift for a fictional husband. Uh, I'm like, I'm like, will you make, I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:29 all these guys were just saying fucking William H. Macy, John C. Raleigh. These guys are all fucking heavy hitters in different ways. Two guys that pretty much have looked the same for the last 30 years, by the way. That's,
Starting point is 00:41:40 that's true. That's true as well. They haven't changed that much. I aged a little bit, maybe some crow's feet on the eyes, but that's it was looking it up too like john c riley he was in um uh was it days of thunder he was in gilbert grape and i don't know how big those were but i mean seeing like it feels like a lot of these movies were kind of the movies that helped springboard these guys to just bigger roles john c riley is one of my favorite guys um william h macy philip seymour hoffman as scotty j that might be my funny that might be
Starting point is 00:42:10 my favorite guy because he just makes me laugh every time he's just in the background eating shit uh man it's just so fucking good and the again going back to little bill or the like the contempt in her voice she's like you're embarrassing me embarrassing me. Get out of here. And the guy's like, close the door. And when they're there, that was a piece of trivia I had in here in the driveway. When a little bill, he's talking to the director. Who's like,
Starting point is 00:42:36 you know, the bigger guy with like the gray hair or whatever. And he's like, he's like trying there. They're talking technical stuff. And he goes, my fucking wife has an ass and her cock in the driveway. And it's the wrong way. And he did by mistake, there they're talking technical stuff and he goes my fucking wife has an ass and her cock in the driveway and it's the wrong way and he did by mistake but they're like that's how you would act if your wife was just getting banged you know five yards away as you're trying to talk
Starting point is 00:42:55 work with your co-worker and they just kept it in the film and i thought that was perfect i pointed that out in the moment and i was like oh my god that's such a funny line like that's so great what was it what was dave's line a gun in the bullet or something like that have another gun in the board inside edition or whatever when he was getting um speaking to dave there when the first time uh the first time jack meets eddie or dirk yeah the way he looks at him is the way i imagine dave looked at frank the Tank the first time he saw the video of him and was like, that guy's a star. He's going to be my star right there. Yeah. I think I've told this story before, but I was with Dave when he saw it.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Really? Yeah. We were in Augusta for the Masters and he was like, oh my God, this guy's a superstar. And he started going back and forth with emails. And he said to Frank, like, you know, cause you blog for the site, maybe Frankie midnight. That would be funny. And Frank was like, yes, I sleep in shifts. And that just that sentence captivated Dave's imagination. And he was just like, oh my God, sleeps in shifts, Frankie tank. This guy loves the Mets or hates the Mets. Really? We would come to learn, but yeah, that was that
Starting point is 00:44:05 was someday in Augusta Georgia so I remember Dave blogged the video like yeah you know I probably I saw it Kevin saw it but Dave got the jump on all of us and Dave definitely saw before I did like I saw probably on Dave's blog for the first time and I was just like what is this and then I remember Dave introducing me it's like and by the way he sleeps in shifts and i was like he's done it again for all the things you want to talk trash about dave for anything he's ever done in life whatever you don't like whatever it be you cannot say that man does not have an eye for talent i mean he does he picked frank the tank off of a two-minute news interview he picked out brandon walker out of a bunch of people trolling him because his fucking employer was a bunch of dicks today if you want to let him get his money out
Starting point is 00:44:48 um he's done it like countless times with these people the man who should not be named before a former honker i don't even know i still don't even know how how he got hired now he's saying brick watch employee yeah yeah the brick watch employee i i like that's what when you work in this company you will just have someone that got hired from a viral moment and you don't even know what the viral moment was i thought it was i thought he was the giants fan at first the big red guy so that just shows how fucking sick and twisted and i found out it was about a mississippi versus mississippi state thing and it's just too much going on in football season like oh well we have a new co-worker now he's just gonna show up
Starting point is 00:45:22 and start blogging one of these days oh man so is. So is Dave Portnoy the Jack Horner of sports media? Yeah, definitely. No doubt. He's just as cool. Don Cheadle bringing the cowboy look back. Hysterical. He kept saying, I'm bringing the cowboy look back. And then by the end of the movie,
Starting point is 00:45:42 he looks like Macho Man Randy Savage with the amount of tassels he's rocking. And then he goes to like the hip hop backwards hat. You know, he is like going, taking you through the different eras of American fashion. It's incredible. It's incredible. That was great. Another great one shot by the pool. And when John C. Riley is like, I'm going to do a full front flip.
Starting point is 00:46:02 He flips like a board into that pool. And they're just like, oh, my God, are you OK? He's like, like, I'm going to do a full front flip. He flips like a board into that pool. And they're just like, oh my God, are you okay? He's like, yeah, I'm fine. Someone in the background is like, you got to do a full front flip, man. You got to tuck your feet. He's screaming underwater, which everyone can attest to. If you've ever done a belly flop or a back flop by mistake. And that character is just so fucking absurd.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I love him every time he comes on. I cannot take my eyes off him. The weightlifting lines. He off him the weight lifting lines he's asking the weight first and then he's upping it and then they try to do it at the same time it's it's perfect and that that one shot with us spill that wine i i blogged it like two or three times on the side i'm like guys this just that always puts me in a good mood it's a fun song it's a great vibe if you ever been to like a summer party everything feels fucking new and fresh the pool's there and everyone's just having a ball i fucking love that there's that's like a
Starting point is 00:46:50 classic thing every one of these nostalgic movies needs is a pool party scene once upon a time in hollywood has one and the weird al yankovic movie actually has a great one talking about how much of a trope that is like a pool party with a bunch of famous people there. Yeah. Very funny little scene in that one. An oddly hilarious overdose scene as well. When the guy's just sitting with the girl and he's like, I don't know what happened, man. I don't know. I don't know. I think she OD'd.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Oh, maybe she gets the new stuff. Blood all down. Like, yeah. The third she gets OD'd on me this week. Such a goddamn Cali dude. And at that moment, you're like, hmm, something's up with the Colonel. The Colonel's a little off here. That girl, she's coming out weighing.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I mean, she's, Robbie, you have like 60 pounds on that girl. She's fucking tiny, man. Look at this guy, my guy, Bob Fox. So that's a, and We're talking about people that are a little shady. From the jump, I don't even know if it's number one or two, but the mom from Boogie Nights is one of my least
Starting point is 00:47:53 favorite moms in the history of cinema. The mom from below that keeps ratting out George is right up there as well. However, he is breaking the law. I can kind of live with that. This bitch is just a fucking... She's just mean. She probably something in her like soul in her past that made her so rotten but poor eddie man he's just a fucking kid he has like all these posters on his wall you know the posters that killed me that's so bad dude right that hurts killed killed me had the al pacino
Starting point is 00:48:20 poster on his wall and everything the fact that she was ripping those things down. This is the 70s. He's not going on Amazon or eBay and getting those posters back. Those posters are gone. He probably traded shit for those posters. He didn't even buy them. He had to trade stuff that he loved for those posters from a friend. Probably went to the movie theater, offered the employees some frigging cards. Started jacking off for it, probably.
Starting point is 00:48:42 He probably jacked off for them. Probably jacked off for those posters. She started ripping those. and she started with us and she was calling the girl go fuck that whore oh horrible horrible stuff and his you could tell it's bad when even the dad is like scared to even intervene because he knows she's such a rotten evil person and he doesn't want to go at it and like they have that brief moment at the breakfast table where they're talking and it's kind of like two hostages that are just like you know leaning on each other and i'm just like man if it was a different world eddie and that's kind of i think the theme of the movie is like this wacky fucking family that just gets lumped together from fucking on camera it's one of the it's endearing too that's part of it yeah there's it goes through some serious bad shit but everyone
Starting point is 00:49:24 that kind of makes it through it in one piece comes back together so uh yeah it's this movie's so wild man i love it one of my favorite scenes in the movie is the awkward walk down the hallway with philip seymour hoffman and marky mark before a scene where he's like you look good he's like thanks and he keep walking he like gives him another compliment halfway down the hallway he's like oh thanks then when he kisses him later on he's gives him another compliment halfway down the hallway. He's like, oh, thanks. Then when he kisses him later on, he's just playing the total drunk in the hallway. That's so funny as well.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I wrote down Marky Mark with his money gets himself a Mojo Dojo Casa house. Yes. I didn't realize he said Dojo until this one. And I was like, oh my God, we're back. Which like there are some definite shared characteristics between Ken and barbie and dirk digler right yeah this is this is my dojo who i think dolph sigler was named after the wrestler dolph sigler that had to be dirk digler dirk digler that would be incredible that would be i'm pretty sure that that has to be it um shocking shocking suicide scene with william h macy and they weren't afraid
Starting point is 00:50:26 to go there with the gore you see the gore later on in the triple shootout scene where it's like boom boom boom and the blood goes everywhere that was tarantino-esque as well to me where i was like oh my god you see blood and guts splattered on the wall yeah that you know what that's a great point and that's you know late 90s in like not a horror movie to see that kind of direction. I read somewhere that it was actually gorier and they took it out, which would have been a lot and granted, but I hate to say it. It's like the perfect way to ring in the eighties. I hate the eighties and movies. Cause shit always goes bad, man.
Starting point is 00:51:01 The seventies just seems so awesome. And then you just throw the number eight as the third digit in the year and everything goes haywire all your friends are on cocaine they're broke because they're on cocaine everything falls apart relationships john lennon's gonna die john lennon's gonna die it's fucking it's like hard i i and that scene is like the epitome of it all it even says like you know goodbye 70s hello 80s or whatever and i mean our boy little bill like he had only so much he had only so much every man has his limit and like the i mean those are just the amount of times we saw him walk in on her
Starting point is 00:51:36 and those are probably the nicest conversations they had that was like a oh fuck kind of moment that's like when me and my girlfriend stopped smiling as we were watching the whole movie. Like the whole movie is like a good vibe. It's like total vibes movie. I was like, I don't get what people were saying. This is depressing movie. It's pretty fucking happy so far making money,
Starting point is 00:51:54 filming porn, the way that they shot the porn scenes where it was like, they, you know, made it a little smaller. That was very funny. All of the dialogue in the porn scenes was very funny when they're coming in and like reading the horrible porn dialogue so when they do that the movie definitely
Starting point is 00:52:09 takes a little a little swing and marky mark has a bagel boss moment he when he gets mad he's like you're not my father or my boss yeah which i think he says to like his mom in the beginning so he's clearly sees uh you know jim jack as his as his dad in this case it's not a slight thing it is a hard right turn it is the meme where it's like highway or the exit we just go on that exit and it goes from happy movie to like fucked up sad depressed movie and i'm i'm figuring this out live on the podcast right now that's why i love this movie so much and have such good feelings about it i turn it off when it turns to the 80s i'm done with it i will like fast forward to the singing parts because they're hilarious and then like the ridiculous firework scene but other than that i do
Starting point is 00:52:53 not i don't watch mufasa i don't do stuff we just watched charlotte's web the other day i left the room at the end i'm not dealing with this kind of stuff she's fucking now some pig humble pig fucking put the whole goddamn farm on her back. And it's just, I'm welling up just thinking about it. That's bad. We should have warned Dave about Guardians 3 as well. We saw his tweet about that. Animals, they really do it to all
Starting point is 00:53:16 of us. They do it to Dave as well. He enjoyed Guardians 3 a lot though too. Everyone I've talked to about Guardians 3 loves it. I feel bad about doing it to Dave. I also had no idea in hell he was gonna watch i don't think he's ever watched guardians one or two like i know he's like no he actually he's a marvel guy he says he likes the guardian marvel guy yeah because i know he got really upset with gaz for reading leshawn mccoy's tweet when that came
Starting point is 00:53:38 out that's right it's one of my favorite things it was like za za was the one who retweeted it yeahah retweeted it. Oh, Zah retweeted it. Okay. And then- Zah thought it was funny at first, also not understanding the seriousness of it. And then he sent me like a long apology note. And I was like, you didn't spoil it for me.
Starting point is 00:53:55 He's like, I know. I just feel you represent these people. Yeah. I don't know if he's talking about nerds, white people, all of us. It might be all of us. It's all one and the same. Let's be honest, Bob. Let's be honest we everyone's welcome to the base but a lot of the nerds they look like me and you let's just call it call it what it is but you mentioned it before though the award show
Starting point is 00:54:14 where it's like he's giving these serious speeches and he starts doing the kung fu he does the house the bow is so goddamn funny and i think at one point he says like karate the way he says it it's so funny oh god the and even with like when he's going out shopping it's italian nylon the leather shoes yeah the car is like his like it's like ken honestly it's like ken yes it i wonder when he discovers like sylvester stallone and he's like here we go this is it that's what a man looks like and then Scotty is like his mini Ken that just wants to do everything he does he gets the same shirt even doesn't fit him his car is just like Derek's car um and even when you realize later on when they're
Starting point is 00:54:54 like all coked out every time Todd comes home you see like Scotty's like cleaning the house or putting shit together while the other guys are just sitting on the couch just waiting to get their fix it's uh Scotty J is the fucking man. And, like, it's – I mean, I guess you could, you know, with, like, different sports analogies. It's like watching, like, an old championship team. It's like watching the Giants and it's, you know, the year they won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And Justin Tuck is, like, in his third year and he's still getting it figured out. You're like, holy shit, they had, like, a young Justin T Tuck that's what it's like having Philip Seymour Hoffman play Scotty J it's like it's like a not a small role it's an important role but it's just a fucking a hundred out of ten the guy just questions it like pretty much this entire cast this that's it I'm calling it out this cast this cast is the 2007 Giants when they were fucking playing I didn't realize how great they were and then I look back all these years later. I'm like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:55:47 We had stray hand OC and tuck on the defense, Sam Madison in the secondary. We have my boy, Eli two times, Superbowl MVP. I'm going to prep us a lot of people off with this analogy. I say, yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:56 this cast is the 2007 jets, but Hey, they beat the fucking 18 and old Patriots, the Superbowl. So unless you can get another team that beat an undefeated team in the Superbowl with the greatest quarterback and greatest coach ever, you can then make that assessment. I can say this because of Eli Manning and the crew.
Starting point is 00:56:11 That fucking team is ridiculous. You go look at it back on Wikipedia or a football reference. You look at that team. You're like, holy shit, they were stacked. And then in a wait, they could have went to another Super Bowl if that goddamn asshole Blacks go didn't shoot himself. So that's my sports rant. That is my sports rant of the day.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I apologize, but that's my comment. Who's Jeremy Shockey? Jeremy Shockey is, that's actually a very good question, Bob. I'm going to put it as the girl who plays Becky. All right. At the time. I know my, I know my two 07 Giants. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I'm impressed. Jeremy Shockey got hurt before the playoffs. Couldn't play. Had to watch from the press box. And he kind of like, I don't want to say he fizzled out because he went to the Saints. I think he won a Super Bowl there as well. But like, I see Becky Barnett and I'm like, oh, this girl's a star. And it never quite hit as you wanted it to hit.
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Starting point is 00:58:06 Enter your email. Redeem the code MMB for $20 off your first purchase term supply. I wonder if they could get me into Oppenheimer 70mm. That's going to be next, man. You should be able to get them there. Yeah. Now the movie takes the dark, dark dark dark turn where they show i i like that it went spanned years and it went into like 83 maybe close to 84 i don't know if it ended up in 84
Starting point is 00:58:33 but they show how everyone kind of turned out how it's hard to get a loan because of working in the porn industry how it's hard to get custody of a kid because you worked in the porn industry and showing all of that was very like sobering and you realize like these people might have ruined their life like lives for this and everything you get that crazy triple shootout scene where he takes the money and runs which i was like a little worried he was gonna get framed for it after he took the money but i was like i think you gotta take the money i said out loud i said i was like i I think you got to take the money. I said out loud, I said, I was like, I think if you witnessed that, you deserve that money. If you witnessed something that horrific.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Buck has like, out of everyone in the movie, has one of the purest souls, it seems. Yes. So it feels like the big man was like, listen, I'm going to give you a break. It's going to be horrific. And you'll probably have nightmares about it for the rest of your days, but you're going to get the money, even though that dickhead at the bank.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And he, you know, he's like, I'll fill'll fill out something different like can we just talk about this you have to say what you say i've seen what i have to say and he's just like nah like we're not dealing with pornographers and when you use the whole you know people don't like it when they go pornographer or pornography yeah it makes you sound like a pervert make you sound like a pervert exactly they do and i like i just love that couple him and his wife they're just like such a cute couple and he's getting the whole order for her and he's talking about the kid in there you know kicking her belly and stuff and then you just see that scene and that scene is fucking even when you know it's coming it's horrifying as you just have just like you said blood and guts and that
Starting point is 01:00:01 one that one is definitely more uh graphic than the little Bill one. You're just like, what the fuck? And my guy somehow walks away unscathed. There's like brains all over him at the end of it. It's like, oh my god. That's very Pulp Fiction-y. Very Pulp Fiction-y when Marvin was shot in the head. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:19 The Alfred Molina scene that we kind of referenced earlier, up there with my favorite scenes in the movie. He was such an unhinged lunatic. Kind of also reminded me of the end of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when the Manson kids come into the house and he throws the fucking can at their face. And it's just like everything's going crazy. There's music playing. Alfred Molina apparently hadn't heard either song. I think it was Jesse's Jesse's Girl. Really?
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah. He was like, I hadn't heard him. I had to listen toesse's jesse's girl really other yeah he was like i hadn't heard him i had to listen to him over and over again to get it right but as someone that grew up only knowing him as doc ock it's crazy to see his other earlier movies and be like oh this guy was like a wild guy when he was younger like it wasn't just you know like i picture like kind of like chubby doc ock but that's not his only role. As the kids say, he was a wild boy back then, or at least he was a wild boy. Yeah. And I know this movie's filmed in the 90s, but it just like that dude seems like he was perfect in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. Kind of look like my uncle Brian with the mustache and everything, which made me think differently of my uncle Brian. You know, I was just like maybe my uncle brian was crazy and the silk robe too and you said it the music is what really makes it all go because the soundtrack's going you start with sister christian it's all kind of just warming up you get jesse's girl once we're really getting to know each other and chilling and then 99 louis fred balloons as shit just hits the fucking fan we We didn't mention him earlier, but Todd Parker, his entry into this is like, it's chaos.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It's like, it's, it's the, the flame that lights the wick. And again, Amber, I imagine this happened with a lot of people. I don't want to just throw Amber in the bus.
Starting point is 01:01:59 If Amber doesn't, you know, introduce dark to Coke, I'm sure someone else does, but that's usually the thing that gets the guy started. But that little bit of chaos when Todd Parker shows up and I'm just like, Oh fuck. I wrote, Oh fuck. I forgot about Todd Parker because it just wasn't in my head. I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:02:14 you know, remembering all the different things I love about goddamn, uh, you know, John C. Reilly doing his magic and stuff like that. I forget. Oh, the magic was so funny. Thomas Jane, man. I had like Thomas magic and stuff like that. I forget. The magic was so funny. Thomas Jane, man. I had like Thomas Jane had a moment there where I was like, I really believe in Thomas Jane. I really was a,
Starting point is 01:02:32 was a big fan of him. I don't, I don't remember what movie he was in. He was in that movie. He was in that show hung on HBO, which I never watched, but I saw the commercial for like a thousand times. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:42 It was just something about him. He just looks like he should be like a D oh, he waskey mantel in 61 that's what it was oh yeah man on 61 and i was i was a big thomas jane guy and barry pepper as well obviously from saving private ryan so uh just seeing todd parker in there the perfect name too that guy is the most todd and the most todd parker in the history of todd and Todd Parker and if we're talking names we didn't say it beforehand Brock Landers and Chess Rockwell what a fucking dynamic duo that's who these guys are with their shirts so good though the like you said the magic scenes at the end when they show them with the magic and the girl has the boobs pop out and everything
Starting point is 01:03:23 so funny yeah a little chill with the hands you know it has the boobs pop out and everything. So funny. Yeah. A little with the hands, you know, it's like over the top corny, but it works. And then the scene in the end that has like the most ominous music over it where Mark Wahlberg gets catfished. That's not really catfish, but the guy is like jerk off in front of me. And really, they just they're homophobes. So they beat the hell out of them and then on the flip side while that's happening there's the guy kind of taking advantage of uh roller girl and in front of uh in front of what's his name hurt reynolds
Starting point is 01:03:57 character jack and he gets out beats the fuck out of him i thought they were gonna kill him on the side of the road if they didn't she was stomping on his face yeah nuts i was afraid they were going to kill mark walberg it was a whole thing i thought back to stranger things though when 11 remember she hit the girl with the roller skate that was sick but yeah that and then they end it with someone told me there's a great reveal at the end of the movie that was one of the replies yeah they they just show you dirk digler's dick it's a big dick they just flop out that big prosthetic dick which i've noted was kept by mark walberg as a souvenir from the film it was made from an easily biodegradable rubber and foam combination which according to walberg has since begun to deteriorate. Wow. Earth conscious. I appreciate that. Shout out,
Starting point is 01:04:45 um, Baldama Sanderson for taking care of the planet. That scene had to be like the best thing that happened to Mark Wahlberg, not having the great acting, you know, role on your resume for a movie that, you know, it was obviously up for awards,
Starting point is 01:05:00 but enough people saw and go, is that really his curiosity? And I'm sure, I'm sure in the real life entourage, their work girls, like, can I just see it? And I mean, that's the thing. There's no way you're living up to that. Yeah. You set yourself up for disappointment, but it's before the 97, before IMDb trivia pages were like a thing that people pulled up like that, you know? So it's, people would be like, ah, maybe it wasn wasn't prosthetic and it's not like you're gonna just you know mark probably handled his business with the lights off for a bit and but it's like there's a couple inches that go there just because the imaginations run a while so it's not a bad thing for mark wolver we could all we could all agree
Starting point is 01:05:37 on that but yeah that roller skating scene i actually is part of me that wanted the kid killed because he just is such a prick yeah i i still have that guys who should be killed uh the colonel the colonel was a bad dude it turns out um that scene at the jail is just fucking haunting where he's like tell me you're my friend jack tell me and what is like he's like i didn't do anything i swear to god i didn't do anything and he's like but they found something he's like and they're just so cute and they're like they're cute little creatures he's like oh no oh colonel no no no, no, no. Very bad. And then apparently Ron Jeremy was supposed to have a cameo in that prison scene as well.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Because Ron Jeremy, Paul's Thomas Anderson, spent a year with to study and prepare for this film. Really? Oh, wow. I had no idea. I mean, then we see the Colonel. His basically his destiny is to just be that guy's bitch. And he's like, shut up, Colonel. He's crying by the toilet and everything.
Starting point is 01:06:28 But the thing, the good thing about the 80s is that there are still some good moments in the coked out lives of Dirk Diggler. You got the touch and feel, feel, feel, feel my heat. Those are two things that I know all my buddies used to say in high school time. I saw Rico was quoting one of them. those are two things that i know all my buddies used to say in high school time i saw rico was quoting one of them there's an even the uh i love this movie so much during the documentary that they're filming that amber films and he's like he's like yeah he's like uh you know he lets me block my own sex scenes and then jack's like i don't want to block his own sex yeah and then afterwards dirk goes there he's like can you take out a part of that and amber's like what the part about blocking the
Starting point is 01:07:07 sexes he's like yeah and even when he says he's like napoleon he was the king and everyone wanted to take him down in the roman empire and it's like yeah the brain of like an 18 year old right there who doesn't know anything about history and i just it's fucking adorable man i just love it it's great honestly i i was uh my expectations were exceeded with boogie nights i went into it not really knowing what to expect as i mentioned then was awestruck when i was i was like what is this movie about this is about porn i see marky mark's tighty whitey's on screen in the first five minutes he's like you want to watch me jerk off i'm like what the fuck i just told my girlfriend this is gonna be like saturday night fever it wasn't like that but yeah this is a movie that if i see it on tv i'll definitely find myself flipping to it and re-watching parts of it
Starting point is 01:07:54 especially that first half yeah you can just kind of just you know zone out have some laughs again what's the some parts he's get a little hairy there but even like the the donut scene is kind of like oh shit and then it just like works out great for him and just even the music what everything's going good at the end like it kind of gets you all hyped and i just so i'm just going to go through the cast real quick mark walberg burt reynolds julianne moore who was awesome right so good yeah i i've used that uh gif in a in a blog before where she's like let me get this straight that's a giant cock it's just like heather graham john c riley don cheeto philip seymour horford william h macy louis louis guzman like that's just the first line of people and he's in everything by
Starting point is 01:08:37 the way he's one of the all-time in everything he showed up super early in the movie like oh come on give me a role give me a role i was like oh shit if he's in a movie like, oh, come on, give me a role. Give me a role. I was like, oh, shit. If he's in a movie, it's going to be pretty good. Yeah. And then even like I said, that guy, the bigger dude, Ricky J. It's his name is the photographer or the cameraman. He's just like that guy. You have the colonels like that guy.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Alfred Molina is that guy. Thomas Jane is that guy. There's so many that guys in this, you know, movie that is just incredible to me. And Robert Downey Sr., breaking. Yeah, Sr. I did not know that. I did not know that. Yeah, I read that on the IMDb cast yesterday. Gangs of New York will add to the watch list, which neither of us have seen.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Another one that I haven't seen that I know you've brought up multiple times is The Warriors. Oh, that's a good one uh the warriors is a little more cult classic-y but i think it is fun and we could definitely have some fun with that if anyone has any ones they recommend that is in the ilk boogie nights road trip or anything like that definitely send them along yeah i guess euro trip we could add to that neither of us have seen euro trip, right? Yeah. No. Yeah. That would be good.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I just watched, they cloned Tyrone. I had a bunch of people recommending that to me. How was? Very, very good. It's on Netflix. It's Job Boyega, Jonathan Boyega and Jamie Foxx. Awesome. Wild movie. Funny.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Has like a, like a, just a good vibe to it as well um with like the actors they have good chemistry so i like 10 out of 10 recommend i'm not giving it a 10 but it's like 10 out of 10 like it's worth your time i'm giving silo that same type of recommendation on apple tv i texted you about it just finished the first season last night and it wasn't one of those first seasons that gives you nothing you know like, like by the finale, they were giving us some answers. And I love that about a show. So everyone check out Silo if you have Apple TV. It's honestly a few story beats being changed away from being an amazing Star Wars show.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Like it, it's sci-fi. There's no lightsabers. There's no laser guns or anything like that. But there's enough elements of it where I'm like, oh, you could write this into being an amazing star Wars show. So check out silo, check out all that stuff. Check out boogie nights. If you've watched this whole podcast and you haven't watched boogie nights,
Starting point is 01:10:54 watch it again, appreciate it. But yeah, go back and watch it because man, I was happy. I did. If I see you in Detroit at summer slam, make sure you say hi and we'll catch you next week for another one of these random free swim podcasts.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Let's rock and roll.

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