My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 297 - CODY RHODES RETURNS (PLUS NERD NEWS)

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

CODY RHODES INTERVIEW STARTS AT 39:14 Robbie and Clem recap the nerd news of the week and give out a couple movie/series recommendations! Then, Cody Rhodes joins the program for an exclusive interview about WrestleMania 40 in Philly, why he hasn't watched last year's main event back yet, his trilogy with Brock Lesnar, his thoughts on Rogue One, and more! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to the website, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply)! Factor: Head to FACTORMEALS.com/robbie50 and use promo code robbie50 for 50% off your first box! EveryPlate: Get started with EveryPlate for just $1.49 per meal by going to EveryPlate dot com slash podcast and entering code 49basement! ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3G. I am your host Robbie Fox, along with my co-host Clem, for what will be the final episode of My Mom's Basement before Ahsoka recaps start. So catch up on your Clone Wars, catch up on your Rebels. If you don't have time to do that watch one of those youtube recappers clem how are we doing doing great bob i like how you said this is our last my mom's basement getting people a little worried here that we're getting

canceled now that the you know boss man's back in town but uncle dave he's he's a basement boy at heart i mean probably doesn't even know we have this podcast what we talk about but nonetheless it's nice that they're we're gonna get dave on for a star wars episode at one point maybe if He's a basement boy at heart. I mean, probably doesn't even know we have this podcast and what we talk about, but nonetheless, it's nice that we're going to get Dave on for a star Wars episode at one point, maybe if Ahsoka just crushes or and or season two finale or something, but we're going to get Dave on. I I'd love to hear his takes. Yeah.

Me and Dave were texting this week, actually about a basement related topic. He was at an Ed Sheeran, serious XM show, like a very exclusive seriousius XM show. And he said, Sylvana, his girlfriend, was asking him if there were any TikTok celebs there.

And then he shared a photo of her standing next to Paul McCartney. And that was stunning, to say the least. I quote tweeted it. I said, Dave's going to have to take me back to Disney for me to get over this one. It was tough to see.

I asked Dave if he had any interactions with sir paul he said no he said the vicinity though the five feet around him was paul mccartney billy joel bon jovi robert craft um michael j fox michael j fox thrown in the mix marty mcflory some of the most famous people you could have at this ed sheeran show i was actually thinking in my mind if you're ed sheeran it's the coolest fucking thing in my mind, if you're Ed Sheeran, it's the coolest fucking thing in the world. Knowing like a beetle decided to leave the house to watch me tonight. Like what? That's the coolest thing ever. And Dave, of course, you know,

the pizza guy, the pizza. If you're listening to this episode on the podcast feed, it will be followed by an interview with Cody Rhodes that I went to Philly to do yesterday it's a great interview if you're not a wrestling fan stay tuned anyway we talk about Star Wars and he's got some crazy takes I think people are going to find them to be crazy so I'm really excited for that if you're watching on YouTube just make sure you check out that interview after you watch this video but I was going to Philly to do this video because Wrestlemania is in Philly next year. So they're promoting that.

Tickets are on sale and whatnot. I was going to do the interview sitting at like, you know, fucking half the 50-yard mark with Cody on the field. And I was like, this is going to be awesome. Amtrak, our train left an hour and a half late from the station. Thank God the interview even happened.

But we lost field access because they had to get it ready for the game this weekend so we wound up doing it in like the background of a suite you wouldn't even know i went to philly for it you know it was one of those things where we went for the location shoot and couldn't do it it's still a very good interview and especially if you're on the podcast feed that doesn't matter at all the incompetence of Amtrak. Think about that. Frank's rant was because he missed like, I don't think he even missed first pitch of that Mets game looking back.

He missed the balloon ceremony or something. Yeah. He got very upset about the balloon ceremony. And he got like, you know, a massive career out of it. Our guy, Rob Fox was about to be at the 50 yard line for an incredible interview. So shout out to you for it. I didn't get to be at the 50 yard line for an incredible interview so shout out to you for i wouldn't even go on the field they like it was like a charity thing like here you walk on the field for a second and then come right back i was just like all right it's

philly and i'm not an eagles fan so i didn't give a shit yeah we don't like philly in the basement i can't agree on that let's see well you're yankees fans you don't care about the phillies but you are commanders no fuck the phillies but you are commanders no fuck the phillies i remember 2009 we beat them in the world series fuck them yeah fuck them fuck them we're gonna get a couple angry few angry phillies you know basement boys and girls guys come on the basement it's all love down here this episode of my mom's basement is brought to you by 3g of all the things in life one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want whenever you want without the paranoia of consuming some sketchy black market stuff.

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Yeah, this is going to be an episode where we just go through some topics of the week. We're going to keep it short and sweet because we want to throw over to that Cody Rhodes rhodes interview the first one i want to bring up you went and saw teenage mutant ninja turtles mutant mayhem i have not seen it but what is your review what do you think bob it ruled it was so fucking good so i had a few people reach out and we're like hey clem check out ninja Ninja Turtles. It's funny. It's had some nostalgia points.

The kids love it, too. And I didn't even know that the movie was out before then. And AJ had said like, oh, my friend Danny went and he loved it. Can we go? And I was like, yeah, of course, dude. And then people were telling me like how good it was. And I'll be 100% honest. AJ loved it.

I might have loved it more than him. And I'm not like I haven't watched any of the real new Ninja Turtles and it was like 100 different you know streaming shows and movies along the way I probably haven't watched a Ninja Turtle since I think there was a Ninja Turtle 2 uh like the movie like when I was a kid secret of the ooze yeah secret of the ever saw three were they time travel nope because that's what I was like getting a little too old for Ninja Turtles you have to remember i'm like a kid at this point so i'm growing old got out at a good time the third one yeah not good there was a lot there was a lot of that going around where like my childhood started just being betrayed by like hollywood and stuff so i missed a lot of really bad things with like

the number threes uh by the way shout out frank to take grabbing the pizza window that's just another thing with frank i always think of is the pizza window. That's just another thing with Frank. I always think of his pizza window when we always talk about the Ninja Turtles and they would take the little, what is it? From the sewer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God.

What a maniac that guy is. But so I loved Ninja Turtles as a kid. It was probably my favorite cartoon when it was around. I had all the toys. This movie is just so fucking fun. I told my brother who's you know In his 30s he's like me he's older

But he grew up with Lovingham and I was like you gotta see this movie He doesn't have kids let me just go on your own Or you know I think a couple buddies wanted to see it It is So I say this with all due respect And it's not as good as it But it mirrors The same feeling I had after I left

The Spiderverse movies Where it could be a kids movie had after I left the Spider-Verse movies where it's a kid. It could be a kid's movie. This one I think is more kids beats kid beats than say Spider-Man, which I think you could almost make is just as much an adult movie. I think it was a little, almost too adult for my kids. When they saw it, they have no interest in seeing it again right now, which kind of makes me sad. At least what is it across the Spider-Verse? They didn't really love that one. It was a little too scary.

They liked into this Spider-Verse. They didn't really love that one. It was a little too scary. They liked Into the Spider-Verse more. But this movie, super fun, good jokes, jokes that parents will get or adults will get, jokes that kids can like. The cast is out of this fucking world. And I had no idea about the cast going into it. And then I'm like, oh, wait, I know that voice. Oh, wait, I know.

And I'm not even going to tell you who the cast is because I think it's almost better not to know. And you're just like, holy shit. And then when you find out who some of the other guys and girls are, you're like, Oh shit, that person's in it too. The soundtrack, the soundtrack, we just reviewed Boogie Nights. It's like up there with Boogie Nights. And these are much more commercial songs than maybe some of the ones in

Boogie Nights where there are some commercials, which is a lot of good background music. The music is awesome. I said the nostalgia, they hit some things that like if you're a ninja trolls fan you know my boy heavy spoilers did his recap video of it there's a lot of like easter eggs and stuff that's going to be coming um because i guess they're already working on the sequel i think they're doing like a whole paramount series yeah it's like a streaming series uh but man i uh i really love this movie and And I think everyone's going to love it. I think you're going to love it.

I think parents are going to love it. They see it with their kids. I think their kids are going to love it. It is, and I think it has a 96 on Rotten Tomatoes, which I had no idea. I told Kevin too. I told KFC, I was like, dude, take Keegan. If he has any interest in it, take it.

He goes, I didn't even know this movie was out. I go, neither did I. I think they're getting really fucked by this strike because they can't promote during the strike right yeah and they had like you said such a stellar cast that would have had such a good press tour if you just put a couple of those guys together in a room just like crushed it dude yeah and right about that seth rogan is the is he the director or writer he's like the mind behind it in some way you know he kind of spearheaded it, I think. So, you know, he would have been out doing Seth Rogen things.

And then, you know, all the other people that are in it, which, again, if you go on IMDb and want to see it, it's a fucking great cast and a lot of like, oh, shit. Like and then again, there's people you don't know. But anyway, great movie. Cannot recommend it enough. And I almost kind of want to see it again. That's how much I like. It would be weird. I'm definitely going to go this week for sure.

I'm going to try to go tomorrow, hopefully. I'm going to get to Rough and Rowdy early, get to Wheeling, West Virginia early. So maybe I'll try to convince Rowan to go to the movies with me. Rowan watching an Idgitro's movie just feels right. I have to ask, Clemmer has to be seeing this, right?

He has a fucking tattoo on his leg. He's got to. Yeah. If he hasn't seen it already, he's a bit of a fraud. And I love Clemmer. He's my teammate. But let's be honest, you can't have a tattoo of the guy. That's like when I went to Comic-Con and I saw Batman, I said, what do you think of the most recent movie?

He hadn't seen it. It's been out for months. You can't claim that and then not see. Yeah. You mentioned the Spider-Verse movies. Another news item we saw this week was that beyond the Spider-Verse is delayed indefinitely. And they're like it's gonna take as long as we need it to take which a lot of people were upset by i'm not upset by that at all like don't rush these fucking movies make them great and put them out whenever you need to put them out even if it's another five-year gap between the movies we had one with into and across the spider verse i'm fine with that are you feeling the same way yeah it's like disappointment i just because i go back to my idiot dumb ass not knowing the to be continued was coming spoiler it's a good ticket so it's like all right let's just scratch this itch and

get it over with i gotta see my um my beloved rio is that her name i gotta see yep rio maralas mamacita up there on the screen so i'm gonna make this weird you know what the longer they keep the spider verse the weirder i'm gonna get about rio so it's in sony's court but no in all honesty like i we've seen enough marvel projects that maybe could have used more time or maybe could have had some more thinking go behind them i mean i don't even trust the feige anymore so trust the lord and miller are there lord and miller trust the lord and miller that's the that's that's the hashtag for how i feel about that uh so we had rumors run rampant the day after we recorded our last podcast about taylor swift possibly joining the mcu

in deadpool 3 as the mutant Dazzler. And if you don't know who Dazzler is, she was mostly associated with the X-Men, and she's basically just a pop star superhero. In every picture I've seen of Dazzler, she looks very much like a Taylor Swift, maybe mixed with Lady Gaga type pop star. So in my mind, I was like, that actually seems plausible.

As crazy as it seems, Taylor Swift is best friends with Ryan Reynolds. She once wore the screen used Deadpool costume to a Halloween party. She's literally revealed the names of all three of his kids with Blake Lively in the form of song. Like, if anyone is going to do it, it might be these two crazy people. And I love the idea right away. I was like, not only does the look seem great, but if we're going to war as nerds, who do we want on our side coming out of those portals? The fucking Swifties. There's nobody as dangerous as the Swifties.

And I say that from a place of respect. I'm a Swifty myself. I love Taylor Swift. So I thought this was great. And then quickly afterwards, like hours afterwards, a bunch of credible leakers and people of that sort came out and said, this ain't true. It's just not true whatsoever. She will not be in Deadpool three as the dazzler. It's a fun rumor, but it got put out there by someone that doesn't really know what they're talking about. I wrote the blog and said, I think even if she's not dazzler and deadpool 3 these rumors could make her dazzler

and deadpool 4 how long did we say john krasinski should be reed richards before they made that so i'm kind of just mentioning this on the podcast to keep these rumors going keep taylor swift and dazzler associated linked and it's deadpool as well so i could see him like in deadpool 4 being like oh there she is a fucking movie too late. Thanks to the rumors, Taylor. And then moving on with the movie, you know, I'm so mad that that news came out after our last episode. Cause again, we're, we're in the Tik TOK business as well. You throw Taylor Swift MCU and you have two very different factions of people

getting onto the four U pages of them. Basement Boy needs the views. Now, we, you know, We don't have the big casino bankroll on us anymore here. We need to keep the jobs paying. The basement lights on. So I'm a little bummed about that, but speaking of basement lights on, if Disney wants to go from

$1 billion to $2 billion movies, throw Taylor Swift in there. I think that's going to work. Sienna the other day, Sienna's always been like uh you know she she liked uh bruno mars when she was very young i'm a bruno mars guy my wife's a backstreet boys fan she's a backstreet boys fan and then the other day she goes my wife she goes mom i don't want to listen to backstreet boys i'm a t swift fan now she called her t swift and she's like oh well excuse me t swift fan so they recruit them young in the swifty and trust me man it's like pony yeah oh man so yeah that is a group you want on your side the mcu honestly

needs all the help they can get right now even though i feel like deadpool is still hat doesn't have the stink on it that the MCU does after the secret invasion fiasco. But I would love her just as anything. If she wants to be Dazzler, be Dazzler, but I'd love to have her in the fucking family here. Again, she's actually a pretty good actress. She's been in a couple of things.

Yeah, she's pretty good. Actually, I don't want this movie to come after me. She's amazing. She'd instantly be the best actress in the MCU if she joined today. Instantly. She should win an Oscar. She's better than Libby. Oh, this is a fun one.

James Gunn has confirmed that Johnny Sins has not been cast as Lex Luthor. Yet. I say yet because he didn't say, I'm never going to cast him. He just said, no, that's a ridiculous rumor. It's not true. But maybe he's just trying to get us off the scent. Johnny Sins is bald. Lex Luthor is bald.

What do you think? The guy's name is Sins, right? Try having a more better villain than the guy with the last name Sins. It's true. I believe it's true. And again, what is he going to say? You just spoiled my big reveal that's going to have the entire industry talking. James Gunn, you can fool me a lot of ways.

He ain't fooling me on this one, though. Johnny Sins confirmed to DC as Lex Luthor. I can't wait to see him. See him fucking... I've never seen Lex Luthor's dick before. Turns out I have. I've seen his dick. I've seen his ass.

I've seen a lot more of him than I'd ever cared to. And that guy, I don't know if he has a kryptonite, to be honest. We know Superman does. Sins keeps going. What am I going to say to that? What am I going to say? Sins keeps going. There's your fucking hashtag for the episode.

This is just a flipped version of the Superman talk from Mallrats, where Brody's talking to Stan Lee about, like, does he have to use a kryptonite condom? Is kryptonite on the counter when he's doing lois you know um just ridiculous ridiculous story out of the world we're in the tiktok business and i saw that go a lot go like um i saw that story and i sent it to you i was like this is a tiktok we're doing with taylor swift we like this is kind of the industry we're in now where it's like people take a tweet response and they make an entire article about it. So the basement boys, you know, we're click burglars.

Robbie was throwing click burglars the other night. You have to do what you got to do. I know. I feel like the Robin to your Batman. Like it's never quite as good. And people are like, is that guy a girl? But it's still there. You know, I'm still fighting crime.

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centric as the previous four, but I thought they were interesting and worth bringing up. This one, a Barbenheimer headline. Oppenheimer is now the highest grossing movie ever to never hit number one at the box office. The entire run of Oppenheimer, Barbie's been ahead of it. I don't think Oppenheimer is going to pull ahead at any point in the coming weeks. So this is now the highest grossing movie, never to hit number one. And on the flip side, Barbie has hit the billion dollar mark. Warner Brothers' highest grossing movie ever domestically. And Margot Robbie is set to earn over $50 million for that.

How about that? Dude, Justin, unbelievable. You know, like, I was hoping it would get to this point, but I didn't think it would actually hit this when we're throwing the B word around and everything. I just love it. I love internet memes. I love movie theaters having a little bit of success i love tom cruise is kicking and punching air did you see the interview with him where they were like are you gonna go see barbenheimer um in or like together and whatever it's like oh yeah i'm gonna see it together i'm gonna see one and then the other i think i'm gonna see um oppenheimer on like friday i'll see it in the afternoon and then i'm gonna see barbie on um and it was like

he was gonna say saturday and he could just and then I'm going to see Barbie on and it was like he was going to say Saturday and he could just and he's like, yeah, I realized and yeah, and he's like and I just hope you know, the Oppenheimer it's going to be a packed theater. And then I think there's going to be a lot of people at the Barbie show as well. A lot of people packed in the theater and I'm like this guy is only thinking

about box office numbers. They broke him mission mission possible Top Gun to broke his brain or that's the only thing he cares about is like the Savior the movies about box office numbers he they broke him uh mission uh not mission impossible top gun 2 broke his brain or that's the only thing he cares about is like yeah the savior of the movies and box office numbers and i i just love it i love this fucking weirdo just seeing he definitely went to the movies took a picture in front of the oppenheimer poster and the barbie poster and then went to see mission impossible twice i think that's what he did that day he sat in the lincoln seats too that eddie yeah i'm crazy though crazy number for it to hit congrats to margot

robbie because when she pitched the movie she pitched it saying i think this is a billion dollar movie and like in the press store she was like maybe i oversold it i don't know uh you clearly didn't oversell it i saw an article article being like, there's no sequel planned. What's wrong with these people? And it's like, yeah, I'm sure eventually they're going to make a sequel because it's a toy commercial, essentially. Great movie. Taking nothing away from it. But it's a movie for a brand, right?

They're going to make more money making a Barbie 2. Right now, you don't need a fucking sequel. There's no sequel planned for Top Gun Maverick either. That was the biggest money-making movie of the last year. Some movies are okay standing alone, and I feel like we've lost that. Yeah, we've lost a lot of things where it's a standalone movie or making sequels,

becoming brands, all that kind of stuff. Calling your shot. Margot Robbie has to have one of the highest approval ratings for, like, stars in Barbie 2, right? Well, she was just in Babylon, which was like the lowest grossing movie ever made. I mean, like people like her. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You've never heard a bad word. No. Like she's she's Australian. Like, I don't. Is there an Australian that we there's probably problematic Australians. I won't bring them other than them. Like, you know, there's australians i don't like

yeah right right i have a trillion i can think of the the bands i listen to taika with td korg they're all great i know taika i've either met different people steve irwin kind of like paved the ground crocodile dundee for the older people like me they really did like set the base for everyone flight of the concords later on germaine great remember the punter um the punter who was the aussie at ruckers oh yeah and dave was like you could basically have a job just because you're australian like dave said that to him like everyone just love australians and margot robbins she's like a beautiful woman too but she just seems cool as shit though like she wasn't creeped out by people wanting to look at her feet. That was the number one Google auto-complete.

I just love that shit about her. Yeah. This one was interesting and I'm not a huge like fan of this genre or even the material, but I like the movie. Scott Pilgrim versus the world is being turned into an anime and edgar wright the director of the movie is completely involved the author of the book completely involved in all of the voices are voiced by the original cast of the movie so michael sarah's back mary elizabeth weinstead's back chris evans is back everyone is doing it brie larson i think this is really cool and like i said i'm not

like i'm not a Scott Pilgrim guy. I can't claim that as one of my franchises. I didn't own all the original stuff, the books. And I've seen the movie maybe once or twice. I saw it in theaters for sure. Maybe once after that. Great movie. Very cool. Like comic book translated to film. Now, how can you make that even more comic booky? You're making it look like the source material and you're putting it on Netflix as a series. I think this is going to be pretty sweet. I also think it's going to be like a gateway drug to anime for a lot of people. I've never watched anime.

I've never been really interested in it. I'm interested in this, though. So who knows? Yeah, so I I've never I don't know really anything about Scott. I think I wanted to see it when it came out. I think I like the title, when like it came out. I think that I liked the title, but I just have no idea, but it feels like we are due for,

there's going to be a, whether it's this movie or another project, whatever it may be, that's going to be the gateway. It feels like anime is long overdue. Ken Jack. You never seen Scott Pilgrim still to this day? To this day.

Nope. Never seen Scott. You got to add it to the list. It's really, really entertaining. And I haven't seen it to the list. It's really, really entertaining. And I haven't seen it in so many years, I've forgotten it. Maybe we'll recap it before that series premieres in November. Yep, yep.

So I'll have to, that'll be my basement first watch. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's an Edgar Wright movie. You would absolutely love it. It's right up your alley. Godzilla, this I'm very interested in. We got a new Godzilla show. Monarch Legacy of Monsters starring Kurt Russell and his son,

Wyatt Russell, playing the same guy. It's like a time jump show. The 50s and then modern day after the first Godzilla movie. So it connects to this current Godzilla universe. What excites me the most about it is that it's on Apple TV+. Apple TV+, I think Robbie Guchman has been waving this flag on Twitter. They have rarely missed, especially recently. I know people didn't love the second season of Ted Lasso,

even the beginning of the third season. I thought they turned it around by the finale. Silo was awesome. Severance was awesome. Shrinking is awesome. Monarch looks pretty damn cool from the pictures that have been out there you went on this so i have no idea about any of this stuff i have to like look it up and try to so i see monarch here monarch american tvs no that's not it's got our guy john walker which he is an awesome actor. Wyatt Russell.

He's been in a couple of things recently and he looks like his dad, Kurt. So I think that's really good. Instead of doing the horrible CGI to de-age someone, cast someone that fucking looks like that. Even if it's not the son, like Looper, I always reference. Joseph Gordon-Levitt plays a young Bruce Willis and I'm fine with it. The whole movie. I don't mean he's got the eyebrows and a little prosthetic or whatever it takes you five minutes for your

eyes to get used to it and for you to buy them as the same person i would always rather two actors than the cgi i'm always like i was a fan of king kong versus godzilla which that came out and i think a lot of people because i I remember there being a lot of monster fights, which I appreciate. That's what we've come. We don't come to watch the one human that had their whole story and they somehow survived. Get that fucking out of my face.

That's why I didn't like the King of the Monsters. That was the one of the three that I didn't love because the whole movie was about Millie Bobby Brown. She's a great actress. I appreciate you giving her the bag for that movie, but show us the fucking monsters. Yeah, exactly. So that happens a lot of the times

with all these silly things. But so I guess Apple, does Apple have like exclusive rights with Godzilla? Because I feel like they've been doing stuff. They probably do. If I mean this show and stuff, I think they probably do. My biggest take on Godzilla

is that Hubs is randomly a diehard Godzilla fan. It's one of my favorite things at bar. So I love when someone has a random niche that I got a Godzilla guy. We have a Godzilla guy. When there's a Godzilla story, you're like, did the Godzilla guy blog that? Yeah. And if he didn't, I'm like, what the fuck? And I'll remember like one time I was in the office like, yo, Hubs, did you just see the

trailer? He's like, oh my God, man. Like, it looks so fucking and he like is like talking about like the storyline with the background and i'm like oh i love someone who's just a die hard just like something that is not on my like if it was a star wars thing we could talk but i love having no idea what he's talking about and that's like that's what this whole fucking uh fandom thing is about i love die hard godzilla guys because no matter what you say about godzilla they'll usually respond with like but the movies haven't brought in this fucking obscure villain and he's the best like you should see him he's in the 45 movie 1945 oh he looks awesome like it's usually like a giant version

of a bug like Mothra or something yeah Mothra that all right this is the final thing I wanted to talk about on this episode a recommendation from Rico Bosco recommended this to both of us. This new telemarketer documentary on HBO Max or just Max now. It's an HBO show probably like, what? I'm not interested in the story of telemarketers. That's kind of how I feel. I scrolled past it the first night. Then our friend Rico said, no, no, no. You have to watch this. It's outrageous. So last night I promised him. I said, all right, I'll watch the first episode. I'll give it a shot. It's produced by Danny McBride and the Sadfie brothers. So some people i love are signing off on this i cannot even describe the lunacy in this documentary this telemarketing center not only were they scamming people but they were hiring mostly people like straight out of prison and it was just a madhouse like they were like oh yeah if you want drugs you could get drugs there and then they show it and they're like if you want

to buy guns there you could get guns there and they show it like if you want pussy there you get pussy and then they like cut to like what i believe is a prostitute in the background of this call center it is one of the craziest hours of television i've ever seen and rico told me it's apparently the tamest of the three episodes it's absolutely nuts so i saw i think i was going on for um what is it winning time which is all i love that the lakers show i loved the first season and the second season has been awesome first two episodes and i saw this telemarketer saying and i think it said like new episodes on sunday night and again hbo sunday night you basically you have my eyeballs if you have anything that relatively or remotely interests me. And then to be honest,

I like watched the first like opening of the show and I had to look up like, is this real? Or is this like a really well done scripted documentary? Because it was like, when there's drugs there, they're doing drugs. They're doing like bumps of heroin. I don't know if that's even, is that a thing, bumps of heroin?

I think, yeah. I think that sounded right, yeah. And you meet my favorite character on TV today. It's his name, Paul. I have to get- Pat? Is it Pat? Yeah, yeah, it's Pat.

It's Pat. He has a giant jacket. Hatla. Fuck, I'm not gonna know. Anyway, you watch this. You're gonna be hooked. It is flat out. So I- You're gonna fall in love with this heroin addict. It's crazy. You are, you're going to, he's an absolute sweetheart. You see him at home with his wife.

Um, he has like a heart of gold. And the thing is there's telemarketing people. They're scamming people by kind of like saying they're with like a police benevolent association. And like, you're helping out cops to get like wounded, while on the job but they're not really helping them they're giving them 10 of the things it's some shady seedy stuff um but it's also like the people in it are i said it's the dead end like blue-collar jersey shore where it's like anyone in the tri-state area has hung out with people like this in the past where these are just straight up great like especially jersey is the home of these people and obviously this one i believe takes place basically in jersey right like all the yeah there's the main one where there's like people know what a florida man is like there's also a jersey guy like there's definitely and they're different and similar there's a venn diagram and they have their overlap

but then they also have their like differences like that. So like Florida, bath salts, Jersey, heroin. You know, like that's one of the key differences there. They all have a Giants or a Jets starter jacket from like 1996. The starter jacket. It's the best, man. It's the best. And like these people are telling the stories and they're very upfront. They're like, yeah, we were doing this.

We were scamming this. They made, like, no money. And they're like, why did you keep going to this place? They're paying $10 an hour. Like, because it was fun. It was a fun place to hang out. So that's, like, how you know it's a bunch of crazy people is when they don't care about money because it was just a great place to chill. And, again, like Rico said, it's only the first episode.

It's the tamest. I don't even know what's coming in the next two. I'm kind of terrified, if we're being honest. And the thing is, I didn't even's only the first episode. It's the tamest. I don't even know what's coming in the next two. I'm kind of terrified if we're being honest. And the thing is, I didn't even hear about it from Rico. I just saw it on the thing. I started a blog that night and I just put like a couple like keywords down. I'm like, I'll write it in the morning.

By the time I woke up, Rico had already written and scheduled the blog. And I was like, holy shit. If Rico, and Rico was the one, Rico and Dante wrote their blog about the bear. That got me into the bear. I'm realizing quickly me and Rico Bosco have very similar TV days. He's a good recommendation guy.

He's a good rec guy. He's a good rec guy. Yeah. It's, it's a must watch documentary. Like a picture, like, you know, your worst homeroom class where right before the teacher walks in, everyone's losing their mind. Like it's that with convicts basically and drugs that's the perfect way to say it i hope in the year 2023 the public school system has figured out ways to like

keep those kids apart where it's like all right there's 20 bad kids five five five five that's how we're gonna do the homeroom instead of like 16 to what like yeah all the bad kids in the homeroom where you were like i got to put my wallet in my front i had a homeroom i went in and riot gear every morning i was just like i don't know what is coming my way oh man yeah when they straight up showed the prostitute like unbuckling the dude's belt i was like oh yeah we are in some and jersey girls too they are wild they're a wild bunch breeding their own right so uh it's it's fucking so good man i i could and i know portnoy is gonna love it it's just oh yeah because it's got that king of kong vibe where these characters are just like you can't believe they exist

i i this that was like the one line i had written my blog i was like this is the craziest bunch of people outside of portnoy's you know merry band of misfits basically i i and pat is the leader of it all and he is he's like the wife goes how many hot dogs like cook them all like just such a cook them all yeah such a jersey thing and and like you go back the kid who like has the camera he's like an older kid now he started working there when he was in ninth grade because he dropped out of high school 14 yeah it's the only place that would hire a 14 year old he said i didn't even know you could even work at the age of 14 like that you know what i mean like you could work like a you know fast food job for like a few about hours not like a cold calling job right next to a guy who got out on manslaughter six months ago you know like they were like the 14 year olds fine here yeah

it's banana land if you have have Max, watch this documentary. It's not basement boy centric. It's not a nerdy thing, but it is worth your time. Next week, we'll be back to talk about Ahsoka, the two episode premiere. We're getting two up front, which I love. You get a big chunk of you get a big feel for the show. And honestly, I think this is going to be a good one. I'm putting my trust in Filoni.

Maybe you've lost trust in Feige, but not Filoni and Favreau. I know Ahsoka is his baby, right? More than anything else. Ahsoka is his baby. I trust the Filoni. I'm actually going to take some of my trust from Feige and I'm putting in a Filoni now. So don't burn me again. It's the diehard water jugs.

You got to find the right amount for your trust. Exactly four gallons. I mean, i'm rocking my mickey mouse shirt here so i'm still believing in disney what a shill an absolute shill over here espn bet's gonna be a great app we had nothing but love um so i i like disney plus they're raising the prices on me you gotta start raising the quality of your shows too if you're going to be doing that so oh if you give a soka a drax arm i'm i'm fucking losing it because i'm just going to keep recommending mac shows because i'll tell you max has showtime and i'll recommend all the apple ones yes exactly is that silo because yeah silo you said is good i don't know anything about love silo what's it

about awesome it's it's literally everyone in a future dystopian world lives in an underground silo it's 144 levels huge they have like a central park type thing in the silo um schools hospitals a whole civilization they don't know why they're in the silo though they just know that the outside not very good they have like a window to the outside they could see it doesn't look good and if anyone wants to leave they're allowed to they're like yep go right out but anytime someone leaves they like just drop that in 30 seconds so it starts when people are exactly i said it's like 10 cloverfield lane mixed with like hunger games and like kind of just a dystopian you know see the village no i hated that movie i wanted to see harold and kumar go to white castle and our girlfriends made us now

our wives made me and my boy mikey see that instead and it was so goddamn it was an m night shamala movie horror movie right i remember kind of it's like a thriller i remember a little bit about it yeah but i've never seen sounds like this except this sounds a lot better hubs huge recommendation on this as you would love it because i said there's like if you change like 10 of every script it could be the best star wars show out there like i'm telling you if you just changed it and it's like instead of the judiciary is in charge it's the empire and they're on a weird you know like it could be a really cool show a star wars show so that's that's on my list and i'm going to put on your list and everyone else we have a lot of homework here um uh they clone tyrone that's on

netflix i watched half of it and i fell asleep it was late but i was loving it same with us we started it late we were both like tired and it was like i was like painful that i had to stop watching but i was like i don't want to like just doze off or you know when you're saying i stopped it i stopped it and said like i'm gonna pick this up later i didn't fall asleep during it it was one of those yeah and it's like this is good enough that i will finish it you know what i mean so i'm right there with you um jamie fox is in it uh john boyega who is playing a role completely different than finn like it's awesome i haven't seen a lot of john boyega but all i heard about john boyega is how great of an actor he is and then i saw some like oh yeah he has range yeah so i think people really like that one so if you're looking for some recommend i mean we

got a ton of wrecks and then we're getting back into the fucking daily grind with the uh whatever the the mouse is putting on our plate yeah so rough and rowdy 22 is going down tonight if you're listening to this on release day august 18th it's on youtube finally so you could buy it on youtube pay-per-view hopefully that makes it really easy for everyone to put on their tvs i'm going to be on the call with dave and dan and if you're listening on the podcast feed we're going to throw it over to my interview with cody rhod And if you're listening on the podcast feed, we're going to throw it over to my interview with Cody Rhodes. If you're watching on YouTube, make sure you hop over and watch that video next. Make sure to give both videos a thumbs up and a subscribe.

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slash robby50 to get 50% off. All right, welcome back to my mom's basement. It is Robbie Fox, and I am here with the American nightmare, Cody Rhodes. We are at the link in Philly, just backstage in a suite, feet away from where WrestleMania 40 will happen next year on April 6th and 7th. Philly, I think, is Cody Rhodes' country. I think back to Money in the Bank 2013, that Money in the Bank ladder match, I was there.

That crowd was going insane for you. Do you feel the same way about Philly? So after that happened, 2013, Money in the Bank, I always told people Philly was my favorite spot to wrestle. And even today, I felt kind of like I didn't want to say it just because I don't want them to think I'm giving them some sales thing. Like I've had to, everybody who I've told that I've had to explain. Here's what happens.

2013, there was this losers money in the bank. That's what it was internally dubbed. The losers money in the bank. And the champions one was later that night. And that crowd got with what we were doing and, and, and just lightning in a bottle. I remember that's how it was described and after that wells fargo is my number one place i'm hoping the energy is the same coming to lincoln financial and being in philly because i'm not there's nothing philly about me yeah no but maybe that's why

it it works yeah they're they're a different type of fan they're a unique type of fan and for them to have got with me that night, a career milestone. I wouldn't have stayed with WWE as long as I did had that moment not happened. Really? Were you already thinking about things? 2013? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Really? 2013. I mean, my foot originally, I was like, I feel like after 2011, 12, I was already starting to explore the idea in my mind of, could I leave home? Could I try something different? The world was growing. But yeah, 2013, I definitely was at least thinking about putting a foot out the door. And then that was a moment where I was like, nope, nope, we're clearly doing something right. What did that feel like to get embraced by such a hardcore wrestling fan? No pun intended, hardcore.

But when you go back to the locker room, like you said, internally, that match is dubbed, like, the loser's ladder match. Yeah. Do you have, like, a feeling of, like, fucking right we did that? I think the goal always was everybody was in that sand outfit. Dango, like, everyone involved with that match was Moxley. You know, like, let's make, let's blow them out. And I believe someone who was in the later match tried to say, like, oh, they did too much stuff.

They got real old-timer with it, which makes me laugh because that's your way of knowing, like, you couldn't follow it. Yeah. And there was plenty of guys who could follow us, no doubt. But the match, at least, you couldn't follow it. Yeah. And there was plenty of guys who could follow us, no doubt. But the match, at least, they couldn't follow it. So I felt like it was definitely a moment where we were all gung-ho to show out. But I remember leaving just being very excited because Philly is, again, nothing Philly about me. And Philly was not always particularly good to Dusty.

They weren't bad. But particularly good to Dusty. They weren't bad, but I do remember Dusty one time painted his face like the Road Warriors just to make sure, like, I'm good, right? You guys like the Road Warriors, so I'm good. He would have never done that had he had a confidence in them being about the American dream, but for some reason, they chose me that night, and then I was able to choose them yeah we

are here to talk about wrestlemania yeah i heard you recently talked to sam roberts about last year's main event at wrestlemania yeah you described it as bitter had an earthquake you did i saw that yeah um you just described the main event as bittersweet because you didn't win it the feeling immediately in the locker room do you does your mind go straight to wrestlemania 40 do you go right back to how do i get back here so i'm in the ring and they've left romans up the ramp i hear the pyro it's the shot you've seen but in my mind i didn't know how close he was and i was just sitting there with my hands, you know, draped across my knees. And you can see me telling myself, I verbally told myself to get up.

Get up. And the only thing I learned from being at a WrestleMania main event, and I know everybody was like, oh, my gosh, WrestleMania main event, hardest match to get into. Oh, your dad never did that. All that stuff. The only thing I learned was, well, I got to get back. I got to get back. And I got to win. I can't call it. I got did that. All that stuff. The only thing I learned was, well, I got to get back. Yeah. I got to get back. And,

uh, and I got to win. I can't, I can't call it. I got to win. And, uh, that was a,

uh, you know, I mentioned that to Sam, but bittersweet. I mean, more bitter than anything. The only thing I was trying to do was look at as many fans as I could, let them know,

like, it's going to be okay. Yeah. You had a great time, right guys. It just didn't end the way we be okay. You had a great time right guys? It didn't end the way we thought but you had a good time and it was a very tense, awkward

cold feeling at WrestleMania 39 so it opens up opportunities for WrestleMania 40 perhaps to be a different feeling. How quickly did you go back and re-watch the main event from last year? Never watched it. Never?

No. Do you ever watch your big matches? I watched, if someone asked me specifically to watch it back, I will, I'll watch it back. Or if I blew something, like if I knew something stunk, then I'll watch it back to see like, what were you thinking? What were you doing? What happened here?

But if it's a, if you're feeling it, whether it's you're under or you're over, if you're feeling it in that moment, as some I learned from Shawn Michaels, you don't really need to watch it back. You don't really need to. It was magic. Yeah. And it's the same when guys come back. How was it?

How was it? You know, usually, if it was, you know, for me, I describe everything in baseball terms. That was a double. That was a triple. But when it's a home run, like we don't need there's no conversation we need to have. You know, like that was a home run. That's that's how I look at everything. And for for mania, I didn't want to watch it back. Not just because of how it ended, but also my family was in the front row. And I don't know if I can take looking at their faces. You know, they were filming them as much as they were filming me. I don't know if I want to see my mom go through that,

especially with how excited she was to be there. But, yeah, I haven't watched it back. That's crazy to me. Yeah. Do you feel like it would take away from the experience if you thought a match was amazing, and then you watched it back, and if the broadcast didn't make it out to be?

That might be why we don't watch it back. It's like, oh, that felt amazing, and then you do exactly watch it back, and maybe not. Yeah. That might be another reason. Result aside, how did you feel about the match itself? I feel like I'm stuck. I'm fixated on the result yeah but i i will say um there's a moment in there where it felt like like we were

about to take over the world there's a moment in there where it felt like my gosh like to me internally how did you get here but you're here like be present be in this moment because you're about to take the keys to the literal kingdom one that you walked away from one that your family has always kind of been at odds with if they're about to be yours and then they they weren't um but yeah there was a moment in there that I, I had that feeling. I would say, uh, the results I'm always fixated on, but it did seem like a very, very good match. Yeah. Uh, I feel like people who expect, they expect the highest level from a WrestleMania.

I felt like this mania gave them. Yeah. No, I think it did as well. And it wasn't your first time in there with Roman. Obviously, you have a long history with the Shield, but it was your first time in there since he's become the tribal chief. So I feel like it was the first time ever

because it was the tribal chief and it was the American nightmare. These brands that didn't exist. Yeah. When we were kiddos and vying it out for, you know, whatever it was, the Shield versus the Rhodes Brothers, that's why it felt like brand new to me. And it's the same as if I was to wrestle like a Randy Orton today.

Yeah. It would feel brand new. I don't think Randy ever really wrestled. He did, no doubt. Yeah. Like, I'm not discounting any of that, but it's just new me. It took me a lot longer to get to the place i'm in than most of these guys so it's given me this whole new lease more time on

my career um we're at wwe we've had these really amazing responses in all these different cities all these in responses with you know acoustically but. And what I, I don't take it for granted, but something I've noticed about it is it's, it's because I haven't, I've never been there. Like I might've wrestled at Wells Fargo X amount of times, but the American nightmare and that whole bit has never been there. And that's been like a lot of first time ever runs and excitement. Yeah. Speaking of first time ever, and excitement. Yeah, speaking of first time ever,

first time working with Brock Lesnar recently, I'd be remiss not to ask you, what's it like to get thrown around like a baby by Brock Lesnar? Brock Lesnar throwing you around, I mean, the first thing I really take from it is he's manhandling people. When you're a grown-up, you don't feel like being manhandled anymore. Even in an industry where we're vying for leverage and grappling with one another, you don't want to be manhandled. That guy gets everybody. He's that strong.

But the thing about him is that's scary. The thing about him that's genuinely scary is how quick he is. And I think people who watched him in the UFC saw how quick he was, but seeing how quick he is at his age and at this level, I actually feel like he's never been better. And I was so glad that we got to have three together and that I was able to get two wins out of it at this point in his career. I said this in the press conference after SummerSlam.

I don't want to ruin the lore, the allure, the mystique, and I don't think I could of Brock Lesnar. But I will say, if you've heard negative things about Brock Lesnar, I'd take them with a grain of salt because I feel like when he's gone from this, he'll be greatly missed for how unique and professional and just somebody who's going to make you earn every centimeter you get that's a psychology that some of this doesn't have anymore and to be able to feel that and understand that and learn from that,

yeah, absolutely, a unicorn. He is a unicorn in the business, just special. And I don't ever want to wrestle him again. I don't. But it was a hell of a learning experience. Yeah, before we started, I said I was at SummerSlam. Moment in that match, he picked you up and just threw you over his shoulder. No concern with how you were landing, where you were landing.

My double leg? Yeah, it was, yeah. That was my best shot was a double leg. I even used my head as what they call the third arm where you try to use your head, and he didn't even backpedal. Just picked me up in what we would call potato sack me. Yeah. That's scary when you're up there and you don't know where you're going to land.

That's for sure. But a lot of punishment in all those matches. Somebody asked me earlier how long does it take to recover. It used to take no time. You could get up the next day and do it again. The day after SummerSlam, I was on my bus. I slept 11 hours. I was in like an Odin sleep.

I was locked away in this deep black like just locked away to recover just because my body was ravaged but that was a great SummerSlam Ford Field was a great host Detroit was a great city for it a lot of really good stuff for charity and community with the food bank and

packing all these meals just a really great event WWE coming to these shows you've seen this for years. The way they are doing it lately, and I don't know if it's Nick Khan, I don't know, it might be Nick. There's this level of detail that's been brought to visiting cities

that let's give something to the city. And now you have people bidding on WrestleMania, and Philly's going to get all of that. Yeah. It is crazy. Do you have a favorite match in that trilogy with Brock? Oh, by far, Puerto Rico, Backlot. Yeah.

That crowd was crazy. Crowd was crazy. I'd been there the night before, which I kind of was like, they've seen me. I wonder if they'll be excited. Plus, we're the main event. We'll see. But they were amazing.

It was fun to be in Puerto Rico because of the history of wrestling and sports entertainment in Puerto Rico. But the only thing I thought when he hit the buckle and turned around and he was covered in blood, the only thing that came to my mind, and this sounds so silly, but a wrestler or a fan will understand this the only thing that came in my mind was this is puerto rico yeah because i'm thinking abdul the butcher i'm thinking carlos alone yeah bro like it's just i was thinking at a different level about like just that hardcore and you know bad bunny had gone out there earlier and had a heck of a showcase with Damian Priest,

but that was special. I hope we get back to the island for sure. I had an unbelievable time. I did the press conference. I did SmackDown. I did the dark match after SmackDown, and then the next day to do Backlash. It was exciting.

I've loved all the international shows, the Montreal show, Puerto Rico show, London, and for Money in the Bank, Clash at the Castle. Yeah. I feel like that's been such a big part of the WWE the past couple years as well, expanding back out for televised events. Apparently, how about Cena just telling people WrestleMania was going to be in London?

That was crazy. I love, too, that that's not a thing. No, that was like your uncle showing up at Christmas, and he's like, hey, by the way, PS5 and Xbox this year. And it's like, we didn't buy on that i i feel like maybe eventually it's london they absolutely deserve a wrestlemania but i don't think it's on the agenda i don't think so and i just was watching this interview like what is happening like is this is he announcing is he who knows but that was a heck of a moment because i didn't know

he was there and i came back through the curtain and then he was standing right there i always like running into John. They'll even keep that from you, huh? Like when Cena's there as a surprise, they're not even telling Cody? I was hiding on that show. I was hiding. I was literally,

somebody probably would have told me, but yeah, no. Well, even if they did tell you, you can't always see him. Yeah, exactly, right? This is why he should have been in the head of Bart. Pretty good. And he didn't get the gig?

This is it. These are the the head of the bar. Pretty good. And he didn't get the gig? This is it. These are the quips. The wordplay. Who's your compatriot there at Barstool who I don't do interviews with anymore? Brandon Walker? Yeah. Tall guy, right? Yeah.

Kind of bag of milk. Bag of milk. Yeah. Tall guy. I just grab him, yeah. Yeah. I had a pretty controversial interview with him that wasn't meant to be controversial, but the way it's dated is not good.

I like Brandon, though. He's an okay guy. Was he up for the presidency? No, he moved to Chicago. Ah, yeah, no way. Nice guy, though. You all right? Yeah, he's all right.

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Since I returned? Proudest? Gosh. I want to say Royal Rumble, but I didn't really have a tough draw. No, you entered 30. I came in at number 30. I would say the proudest moment is probably a toss-up between the Royal Rumble and Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam. Okay.

Mainly because of what happened afterwards with Brock, not knowing if he's going to F5 you again, taking his gloves off, not knowing what's going to happen there. You exploded his shorts. His shorts hurt. I was curious what was next and that was genuinely not anticipated. So it was just a really, it, it felt like, okay, I'm, I'm doing something right. I'm, I'm, I'm getting the attention from people that I, I want to get their attention and I'm, I'm kind of, I'm

making as much noise and rattling the cages the best I can so yeah those two moments in particular I feel like every place we go to is I'm proud of it and excited I would say Hell in a Cell but I'm more embarrassed by my dumb ass getting hurt

talked about that a lot in the documentary the Rumble and SummerSlam were very special if you had to do one over wrestle another Hell in a Cell match with a torn pec or take that crazy table on fire spot from you know the top rope from myself

yeah the fire was bad I can show you some pictures I flayed my back. You're saying take one back or relive one? You have to redo one. Oh, if I'm redoing one? Knowing what you know.

I would... I can't. I don't know. I don't want to redo either, but there was a purpose for... Hell in a cell, the purpose was I didn't want people to go up that's why he's never made it finally in the main event here he got hurt that's why he never made it so I wanted them to know no no no we're gonna do something different with this injury and the other one was like me defined as a person trying to get you to watch the alternative product. Yeah.

It was, it wasn't about being cheered. It wasn't about being booed. It was please, when I'm on the channel, turn on the channel because every viewer counts for this company and I don't want to blow it. And I want to,

I wanted to be a leader and, and help lead the team there. Was it a great decision? No. Did a lot of people try to help to make it better? Yes. And in the end, I'm not, heat's on me, but I put heat on Brandy too. She loaded that table up.

Loaded it. Loaded it. I think somebody said to her earlier, like, hey, the more the merrier. I know that's the advice. Lighter fluid, right? Yeah. Yeah. Andrade, not a mark on him though. I know he yeah yeah andrade not a mark on him though i know he went face first not a mark on a mark on him craziness i need some pics gnarly yeah i don't know if i want to see it yeah um gross i went to a dinner with a buddy

the next time my shirt is sticking to my skin like where the flay it oh yeah i love hearing you talk about your relationship with Arn Anderson and how brilliant you think Arn is in this business. You've said that if wrestling has Scorseses and Tarantinos, he can be one of those names. What is one piece of wisdom that you can share with us that Arn has showed you that you put into your wrestling life day to day? It's going to sound crude,

but I mean, it was always something he'd hit me with was be selfish. I've never really understood what be selfish means. I get it. And I can point at somebody and go, ah, I know what they're doing here. But Arne knew where I was at. And I think to a degree knew where I was going,

even without it all happening. And knew that I might've been giving too much of myself away. I might've been too much of my equity away. I might've been giving individuals who weren't ready for the moment, the moment. And that was always great advice that he had about being selfish. And, uh, it, it kind of would reel me in for the matches. But, But what I loved most about that period was we have all these old-timers and these legends and these luminaries. We have some that think about it, and they just think that's the only way you can do it, how we did it. To watch one who was a genius, who made millions of dollars

and helped others like Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Batista make millions of dollars to watch one look at the crazy stuff that we were doing and go, okay, there's something here. He'd always say the high-tech stuff. He'd say they can do both, you know, old school and the high-tech stuff. That's what he'd always say. And that was great. Terry Funk had that skill too. Terry Funk here in Philly knew it's going a different way. Just like college football, you know, the running quarterback, it's going a different way.

And Arne's somebody who's been able to see it. So nothing but love for Dubs. I know he's just living his life, doing his thing, but love Dubs. I love that high-tech. I hope that catches on but love dubs. I love that. High tech. I hope that catches on. High tech. I want that to be a new style of wrestling. High tech. High tech, yeah.

That's really good. He always likes them. He's like, he can do both. You know, he's got a good promo in the high tech. Yeah. Old school fundamentals. High tech. I love it.

Yeah. I'm going to put you on the spot here. Bring it back to WrestleMania. What is the greatest WrestleMania main event of all time? It's not. So my answer is, it's not the main event. But I think I know what your answer is. But do you need it to be a main event? Meaning it goes on last.

That's why I worded it like that, because I think I know Fody, and I think he's going to answer The Rock versus Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania 18. Am I right about that? Well, so Rock versus Hogan, to me, is the greatest match of all time at WrestleMania 18. Am I right about that? Well, so Rock vs. Hogan, to me, is the greatest match of all time at WrestleMania 18

because what we do involves the fans. They're not just observers. They are involved, and their involvement that night was unique and special, and it was the good stuff. More than any match I'd seen in modern history, their involvement. But the greatest main event for WrestleMania might be the one that had the most fruit bore from it, and that might

be Stone Cold vs. Shawn Michaels. I don't know if bell to bell it was, but I know Mike Tyson coming in with that super fast, kind of fast, and the stunner, and the moment the duck, the kick, back, the whole moment, it set WWE up for a completely different run. Now it's a given, right? WWE is the most profitable.

It's the hottest it's ever been in terms of record gross, record gross. The no comps list at TV is mind-blowing. It's every show. It's really just, we're living in the golden era.

We're living in this good time. That period, they were coming out of a little bit of hardship, and Austin brought them to the promised land. I remember when he told me he was proud of me. I thought my mind was the most profitable wrestler ever. He said he was proud of me. That feels good. So maybe that one.

I also want to say one that's not. Maybe Savage Hogan as well. Oh, really? Only because it set Savage up. And it was a year-long story. I feel like I'm forgetting a major one at some point in here because it's been holding on.

Hogan Andre is a big one in terms of what you're talking about in terms of setting the wwe right hogan andre is unbelievable and it's to me there's some people who are like i love steamboat savage like yeah i did too but i definitely was there for like hogan andre slamming him in the moment bobby heenan getting trash thrown at him it's a beautiful situation um gosh what was there's one though that's that's oh i'd say modern history as well daniel bryan getting into the wrestlemania 30 main event i remember my mom my mom's so critical so everything is oh such and such look bad out there sudden just tan wasn't good sudden such gear sucks but this is weird but i remember her

saying like she goes that that brian that made the whole wrestlemania and then she wasn't wrong that story coming out of the match with hunter all the way to the take the ride of no he's not gonna do it close so wrestlemania 30 really special too i get that's my favorite yeah dan brian is like pretty special individual special unbelievable talent uh yeah no so that's that's another really good one and the last time we did an interview you were telling me about how surprised you are at how some of your students haven't even seen like the rock wrestle they know the rock is an actor yeah they haven't seen you know his matches against triple h the ladder match something like that

what are three matches that you think all prospective students should watch before going into wrestling training that you just think would be good for you to have in your brain? Before wrestling training? Yeah. Before you even enlist in the Nightmare Factory. I will say Rock Hogan should be on that list. I'll say Sting Flair from the Great American Bash. And the reason I say that that one it's not so much

that is about a full company getting behind somebody and and setting it up well you got jyd and paul orndorff absolute legends that ringside in their gear uh your ellie gante is handcuffed to ole anderson and there's the horsemen can't get involved. I mean, the ride they take you on. So there's two. And then the third one... True. That's tough. Maybe I leave the third slot open.

Just mysterious. Maybe we say the third slot's, you know, a future WrestleMania main event. Maybe the main event of WrestleMania 40. Maybe WrestleMania 40, the main event. Maybe. And if not, I do need to give you an answer. That's a John Cena thing when you say.

Oh, my next match. Yeah. Next one. Yeah. I do need to give you an answer, though, as far as a match that they should watch. There's a. I've noticed you got to be contemporary. These kids come in and they may not want to watch Hogan Andre.

They may not. It may be too slow for them and maybe they will watch it. But it's you can tell it's not it's not checking the box for them. So maybe I'd move it forward to Shawn Michaels versus Razor Ramon in the latter match. Yeah. to Shawn Michaels versus Razor Ramon in the ladder match. Yeah, just to see the psychological element of working with the ladder as somebody to climb, but also as a weapon. The third slot we really should leave open

because it could change. I think there's a lot of quality tag matches in there too. We'll say that match could change any day. Today, it's the ladder match. So at the Nightmare Factory, the two matches we do watch for tape study are the Brain Busters versus the Rockers, and we watch Ric Flair versus Sting

at Great American Bash. Those are the two that we always watch together. Every now and then, we'll watch Bret versus Perfect. Why that tag match in particular? Because Arn and Tully are working overtime. They never stop moving. There's no such thing as a rest hole. They're not resting on the apron.

They're working overtime to continuously make the rockers look cooler and cooler and cooler. And Tully, I can sing Arn's phrases all day, but Tully, his mindset of I want them the loudest, the longest, I don't care if Hulk Hogan's on the show, that's a winner's mindset. I like that, And that's special. And that match is really unique too because you'd be shocked.

A lot of kids today will tell me about Shawn Michaels. Their answers are jarring. And for some of our other coaches, you'd be like, what? You don't know such and such, but I don't want to be that way. So I just, okay, well, we'll watch some of that and see what we can do. I want it to be a very friendly place. My big thing with the Nightmare Factory is I teach beginners. I teach fundamentals.

It's never an A+. It's a B or a C. Move on. Let's learn the next thing. I want them to have a good experience revolved around the squared circle in wrestling. I don't want them to be, I don't like the word bullied, but I don't want them to be bullied. I don't want them to do an insane amount of calisthenics. I want them to know, hey, it's very hard to do this.

It's very difficult. But if your experience is just this 12 weeks of the Nightmare Factory, I want you to have a good time. Yeah, I want you to have a fun time. Bring your family to the showcase. And if you decide this ain't for me, totally fine. The ones who I do get a sense they're going to make it, we're way harder on them. That's the kid we pick on all the time. Yeah.

It's the one who I think is going to make it. Yeah, because you're pushing it. Yeah. Whiplash type thing. 100%. Maybe not that harsh. And you're going to be pushed. You know, I was just very pushed when it came to wrestling against Brock Lesnar.

You're going to be pushed, so you've got to toughen up. Absolutely have to toughen up. All right. My final question. We're both big Star Wars fans. Yes. If WrestleMania 38 was your new hope and WrestleMania 39 was your Empire Strikes Back,

can WrestleMania 40 be your Return of the Jedi? Yes. You got to wear something green for it. We're at Philly, Eagles, green lightsaber, Return of the Jedi. It's funny you mentioned that and this is for fellow star wars fans but the line that chokes me up i don't even want to say it it chokes me up this day can't say it i can't say it it's the i'm a jedi yeah but i'm not even gonna

finish the rest of the line you look it up watch. Watch Return of the Jedi because people don't value Return of the Jedi that much. And they should. It's the culmination of all of them. When I meet the lawyers, like, Return of the Jedi is my favorite. I'm like, good on you. Yeah. Good on you. Thanks for not telling me Rogue One. Good on you or everyone dies. You anti-Rogue One? You anti-Rogue One? No, but it's the bottom of my list.

Everybody dies and I already know what's going on. And all that stuff with Darth Vader was so cool. It was. Yeah, it's amazing. It's the stuff they added in the last 15 minutes because the rest of the movie was you know don't say boring it's not I love all Star Wars movies and I love Rogue One it's at the bottom of my list that's how I feel about Star Wars like solos at the bottom of my list I still love it solos at the bottom of your list it is I'm not super fascinated in seeing someone other than harrison ford playing solo understood understood but the idea if you're a rebels and a clone wars fan and

now you got ahsoka and it's all happening in real time it's happening a shout out to rosario dawson member of the nightmare family by the way shout out uh anyways the moment at the end of solo makes it all worth it the mall moment i'm not giving it away, but there's a particular moment at the end. That's like the Darth Vader moment. They added it at the final 15 minutes. That's fair. That's fair, which is why Rogue One isn't bad. And Empire Strikes Back is my favorite.

Same. Hands down, my favorite. But also, my second favorite is Last Jedi, and that causes people to, I mean, lose it. I love that you said that. They insult your... They come deep for you. Like, well, it's objectively a bad movie. You can claim you're lying.

They're like, stop acting like you liked it. It's been six years. I'm not lying. Yeah, and the one that followed it, guys, we're... It's good. Yoda's joking. They blow the tree up. They took chances in Last Jedi. They took chances and the original Star Wars was. They took chances in The Last Jedi. They took chances. And the original Star Wars was all about taking chances in the first place.

Take chances, kids, like George did. All right. WrestleMania 40. Yes. On sale now. Philly, April 6th, April 7th. Pack a hoodie. It might be cold, so I'll be here.

Return of the Jedi. The hoodie will be here, hopefully in the main event, the return of the American nightmare.