My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 30 - "BEHIND THE MUSIC FANDOM: MÖTLEY CRÜE" WITH MY BROTHER!

Episode Date: October 14, 2019

Robbie's big brother Mike joins the show this week, and the two discuss their Mötley Crüe fandom from top to bottom - from the band feeling like a dirty little secret they had to listen to under wraps, to Mike setting up Tommy Lee's kit at Madison Square Garden and earning himself a credit on Tommy's last album, all the way to their thoughts on Netflix's ‘The Dirt' - and each Fox Brother ranks their Top 10 Deep Cuts from Crüe!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I'm sitting next to my brother, Mike. Mike, how are you? Yo. And we are here. It's Rocktober, and we're doing a podcast about Motley Crue. I teased this a while back on a podcast with Clem. I said that we were trying to get together for Dr. Feelgood's 30th anniversary on september 1st this year and we even before that uh when the dirt came out i didn't even have this podcast yet i don't think or it was actually just starting because originally here's a story that i've never told on the podcast that i could tell i thought my first guest was going to be motley crew it looked for a little bit like there was

a chance i was getting like a phoner opportunity with every member of motley crew before the dirt came out. I was like, I have to start the podcast with a bang. What more of a bang would be fucking Motley Crue right before The Dirt comes out? That fell apart at the last minute and Dana White just showed up out of the blue, which it's amazing how that works out. It was almost Motley Crue. Then it was almost Sara Bareilles. And then it was Dana White. So there's the three there.

But we're here to do an entire podcast about Motley Crue. Motley is Mike's favorite band of all time. All time? Easily top five, probably top three for me. And we're going to go through our entire fandom, really, of Motley Crue and hopefully take you on the journey with us. If you're not a Motley Crue fan, I hope you stick with us. We're going to give you not deep cuts. We each made like a top ten list.

There's going to be hardos. If we couldn't do the best of or favorites, that list is going to be the same for everyone. You're going to have Home Sweet Home. You're going to have Girls, Girls, Girls. You're going to have Dr. Field. There's a handful of songs that are just going to be on everyone's favorite Motley Crue song list. Yes. And also, but when you mention the word deep cuts, you always get the hardos.

Like, this isn't deep enough. This was played on the radio 1,700 times in 92 and all that shit. This is just probably 10 songs from each of us that you probably won't know unless you are a Motley Crue fan, like a big fan. And 10 songs are really worth checking out. So we'll get to that later. But we're going to start at the beginning. And the beginning for you was what with Motley Crue? I mean, I know this story, but we're obviously going to recap the whole thing. So what was your first exposure what with Motley Crue I mean I know this story but

we're obviously going to recap the whole thing so what was your first exposure ever to Motley Crue Mike so it's going back a while it's uh we're going from my mom's basement now or actually we're going from our mom's basement yes you might have to change the title of this one so we're going from our mom's basement over to uncle Dennis's old. And I'm three or maybe four years old at the time. And you are how old for the people at home? Right now, 33. So this episode is like 30 years in the making. It is. Yeah, it is.

So what year do you think that is? That's 92? We're talking about 89 or 90 here. And you know when you go over to grandma's, you're being, you know, babysat or there's a family party or something. And you just know there are things when I get to grandma's house, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do this and I got to do this. Yep. One of those things for me just had to be playing Uncle Dennis's Nintendo. He had the Batman Nintendo 89.

And I just I had to get up in that room and get that Batman Nintendo game going. And, uh, grandma would take me up and set it up for me and get me going on the game. And I could just, I still have this memory. If I close my eyes, I can see it turning around and there is a poster on uncle Den's wall. And it is like nothing I have ever seen in my life. It's these four dudes. I'm pretty sure they were dudes. Yeah, yeah. And they are just a ball of hair and tattoos.

And one dude's got an earring in his nipple. And I don't know what that's about. I don't know if that's okay. I don't know if that's okay. I think most of them sticking their middle finger up, and I'm just like, this is not okay. I can't stop looking at it, but I'm pretty sure it's not okay for me to be looking at it. And sure enough, as soon as Grandma saw me looking at it, she was like, Michael, don't look at Uncle Dennis' posters. You look at the TV or anywhere else. So I was like, okay, there's the confirmation.

This is definitely not okay. Which means it's awesome. And it makes me want to stare at it and memorize it and take it in. And, you know, that poster obviously is the crew. It's the Dr. Feelgood era. And at that point, like I said, they are all just like one big ball of tattoo and leather yeah and hair like cousin it so when when you get that information you put it in in the memory who do you take that knowledge to first you go to uncle den and you're like what's this about do you go to dad do you go to like did you have not a friend you were too young to like go

be like hey do you guys know motley crew had to be uncle den or uncle kev right i don't say a word about it because i don't want to draw any attention to the fact that I am going to look at that fucking poster as much as I can. But you can't go home and look up Motley Crue. Right. It's not that era. So it just got added to the list. Okay, next time I go back to grandma's Nintendo Star Wars figures, look at that fucking poster and try to figure out what is going on because i'm pretty sure that it's awesome and this is like basically your first exposure to like music sort of right like you know what it's it's

sort of confusing because i didn't even know that they were a rock and roll band no one's holding a guitar no one's holding drumsticks or a microphone or it could be a movie poster for all you know you know what for a time i thought maybe they're wrestlers. Oh, yeah. They sort of look like pro wrestlers at the time. With the leather and shit. Pro wrestlers all sort of were trying to look like rock stars. Yeah.

And he also had a drum set in the basement. And whenever I was there, that was another thing I always wanted to do was go sit down and hit those drums. And, you know, that just really all sort of at a young age affected me in a way, obviously, you know, that lead me on to, you know, what would become everything I wanted to do and be in the world. Yes, is Motley Crue central. So do you remember like the first time hearing Motley? I do. Yeah. And what was that that i don't even know this story okay so the first time i see them playing and hear their music is a performance from the i want to say 1997 american music awards oh we're going way later than this is this is way later in life yes so i'm playing music i'm digging music um discovered

kiss because they had gotten back together and did a reunion with the makeup and i saw them on tv and i was like that's it look at that fucking guy and look at that guy and that's what i'm gonna do there's no doubt about it the brooklyn bridge performance yeah from mtv awards i was like that is what i'm gonna do so i'm into playing drums i'm into rock and roll that drum set that was in grandma's basement that i always used to want to hit as a kid eventually just became my drum set so i always watched all the music award shows i just i wanted to know as much as i can about all the bands all the drummers. So they were making this big deal out of Motley Crue. And I didn't know why, because I didn't remember the poster.

I didn't know anything about them, haven't heard them yet. You know, now I know it was a big deal because Vince Neil had just come back into the band to be the singer again after being out for a number of years. So they bring out Pamela anderson to introduce the band because at this point she's married to tommy lee and i guess at some point she says it or someone on the broadcast says about introducing her husband's band and i'm fucking devastated because i've got the pamela anderson paywatch poster up on my wall and that's who i'm gonna marry yeah no not anymore so i was like the fuck do you mean her husband's band i'm

marrying pamela anderson and so my heart is sort of ripped out of me and she comes out looking like pam anderson looks in the late 90s. And then they're back. Here's my husband. I'm sure she didn't say it like that, but I was just like arms crossed, like however old. Yeah, let's see. Let's see how good your husband is. Yeah, like 11-year-old snot-nosed, arms crossed.

Well, it can't be that fucking good. And the broadcast goes to black and white and it was just like now they're playing in black and white what is happening and they do shout at the devil 97 you eventually warm up to tommy warm up to pam's uh husband and you start learning the drums kind of through like tommy tommy is your number one influence as a drummer you play drums for a long time so when do you make the move to like all right right, I'm over it. Pam Anderson's married and I'm not marrying her, but I'm in on her husband. So not long after the performance, I see VH1 airs the behind the music.

Which is the goat behind the music. Pretty impossible to find online, I'm pretty sure. I think you could buy the VHS for like $400 on eBay. It's just to think about sitting in the bedroom, flipping through the channels, because back then there was no guide. You flipped until you found something you could handle. And I came across the Behind the Music, and I'm like, oh, this is that band again. Oh, you know what?

It's all starting to come back to me now. I think this is that band Uncle Dennis really liked. And I saw those posters okay and then it's just clips of music videos where they're being crazy and melting faces surrounded by chicks surrounded by fans like going nuts every other picture of them was just like rocking half of them looks like they're in like in hell literally yeah they're they're they're just every picture they're with a different playboy playmate or with a different three hundred thousand dollar sports car it was just i couldn't look away i was just like what the fuck am i watching this is a band completely larger than life in i mean we'll talk about the dirt later

but they were able to make the dirt because this band is, the story of Motley Crue is a story that like would be one of those, if you wrote it for Hollywood, they would turn it down and say it's too cheesy. They would say this would never all happen to four guys. Yes. And they would definitely not all still be alive at the end of it, but fuck it. They are. After I see the behind the music, I order the greatest hit CD and I'm like, all right, let's find out what this is all about.

Am I really going to like this music? I don't even really know what to expect. And I listened to the greatest hits and every song I'm hearing the drums and all I could do is I'm trying to figure out what I just heard. And then I can't believe the next thing I'm hearing. And it blew me away. It just, it was the first time in my life where i'm like i have to do this i have to learn how to play drums like this and if i can learn how to play drums like this maybe one day if i meet pamela anderson i can tell her i can do that too. And maybe if I could get the cars they had and avoid all of the horror stories I saw on the behind the music.

Yeah. Maybe it's doable. But for right now, all I got to do is learn how to twirl that drumstick. Yeah. In the middle of playing my beat the way he does. The theatrics of it. At that point, as a kid, learning how to twirl the drumstick in the middle of playing a beat is almost as important as learning the actual song. Yeah.

It's like guitar players will talk about trying to learn the solo to the song before they learn the chords. Right. And it's like, well, yeah, I just want to show the flashy stuff. Shout Out to Devil 97 had just come out. Generation Swine is the album that's on. Were you anticipating the release of that Or had that just come out And you're like alright let's see the most recent

Generation Swine comes and goes Greatest Hits is after that Oh so you missed out on it I missed by the time I I thought that for some reason I thought that was like your first like release What was that? New Tattoo

The first album without Tommy on drums I was so again Just like the American Music Awards performance, I went into it sort of arms crossed and half disappointed that this was not how I thought it should be. Yeah. So.

That's like super bittersweet. Tommy is your guy. You just learned everything and you're like, oh my God, a new Motley Crue record. Let's go. And Tommy Lee's not on it. Who played on that?

Randy Castillo, ex-Ozzy Osbourne drummer. And, you know, and then they toured it with a chick right yeah unfortunately randy um got sick with cancer and died and uh i guess at that point i guess they're all looking at each other like well what do we do now i mean we're just going to start rotating members so they reach out to samantha maloney who was the drummer from whole oh wow i didn't know she was the drummer from hole oh wow i didn't know she was the drummer from hole yeah so i i guess they're thinking wouldn't this be sort of a a unique twist yeah and also holes like big in the 90s the late 90s so maybe that's like

a big thing i don't know um so new tattoos your first release kind of a bummer kind of a bittersweet like even the record kind of sucks for being on. Did you like it? Did you reluctantly like it because you're like, it's Motley? You know, at the time I was, like you said, it was my first Motley Crue release where I'm like, I can actually go to the store on the day this comes out and buy a copy and hold it in my hands and not know what it's going to sound like. Just like everyone else is going to not know what it's going to sound like just like everyone else is going to not know what it's going to sound like so the excitement of that had me still interested and like excited to just be a fan like everyone else on release day but yeah there was also this feeling of i think i missed out on motley crew i just discovered them and i'm so all in and ready to devote my entire life to learning how to

be the kind of drummer who you know would play like tommy and can get in a great band and is it over though did i just come in just as the cops broke up the party you kind of fucked me in that way because you got me into everything that you were into most of which were old school rock and roll bands that i completely missed out on five decades literally decades maybe you caught him at the end like you caught that kiss reunion show like their farewell tour in 99 or whatever they're on their uh 16th farewell tour right now i saw him twice on it um but like yeah you miss out on everything so you think maybe you missed out on molly and then do they break up after new tattoo or quote unquote break up to go their separate ways and start trying new shit or when or when when does that

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That's simplisafe.com slash mom. Now, let's get back to this discussion on Motley Crue, though, because we were just on a pretty interesting point. When did they take their hiatus? Yeah, right around that time because new tattoo comes out and not long after that, the book comes out, the dirt. The dirt, yeah, yeah, yeah. Comes out and – How old are you when new tattoo comes out and the dirt comes out? Oh, about 13, 14. And did you buy the dirt? You read it when you were that age? Mom bought it for me. Jesus Christ, mom. Listen, I know you're listening to this, mom. And did you buy the dirt? You read it when you were that age? Mom bought it for me. Jesus Christ, Mom. Listen, I know you're listening to this, Mom.

I know for a fact. She's going to say, oh, my two sons are on a podcast. How sweet. Mom, you took me to see Step Brothers when I was like 10. You bought this kid the dirt. Unbelievable.

She would have been better off buying me a porno mask. Yeah, really. Like the dirt. Holy fuck. Even some of the stories. That's probably how you learned most of anatomy. And just like that poster that was on that wall where I was like, I'm not even going to talk about this.

Yeah. If I do, I'll be in trouble. The dirt was the same way. I'm not even going to talk about this book because it'll be taken away from me. And when you read that, did that just blow your face off the first time you read it? I felt scared. Yeah, I would imagine. I felt like a scared child who had something they were not supposed to have.

Yeah. And I just liked the behind the music, liked hearing greatest hits. I just kept finding that my reaction to everything I was consuming, Motley Crue, was just like just like jaw dropping. Yeah. I can't believe what I'm hearing. I can't believe what I'm seeing. I can't believe what I'm reading. How are these guys all still alive? And you and me are I think the same in that we're always drawn to the larger

than life shit. That's why we like superheroes. That's why we like wrestling. That's why we like this. Like the rock and roll bands that you raise me on. I say it all the time on the podcast. Guns, Motley and and kiss all three complete larger than life insane rock and roll stories so when you read the dirt it kind of reinforces like okay this is the band that was about that rock and roll lifestyle more than anyone else and it's unbelievable that they live to tell the tale you get into that the dirt obviously comes out while the band is not together.

There was a weird, explain like why the band wasn't together by the time the dirt came out. Yeah. Tommy had was did, you know, like six months or something in jail. And, um, when he came out was just, I think, looking to branch out and see what he can do, know without motley crew he wanted to write songs produce his own records sing play guitar just free for all let it rip and it wound up becoming uh methods of mayhem which is a cool record cool record it's a bit of a mishmash um and you could tell it didn't really seem like they were looking for commercial success with it as much as it was just two decades worth of being the drummer for Motley Crue pent up all these ideas just spilling out and just guests on every song. I mean, Snoop Dogg's on that record. Kid Rock's on that record. Fred Durst is on that record. Lil' Kim.

George Clinton. Pretty fucking ahead of its time in that way sure and you know what it just the rest of the guys are the same way and that's why motley crew had so much success i think yeah nicky and tommy especially they were all just never afraid to do whatever the fuck they wanted musically or otherwise they just went for it. So here, right around here in the timeline is sort of when you start getting me into Motley Crue. I'm super young, probably too young for you to start, you know, letting me listen to Motley Crue, shout-out-the-devil kind of shit. But this is, we're starting to get into the era of Motley's not together anymore,

and they're about to get back together. In 2005, the band gets back together. Nicki, Vince, Mick Mars, and Tommy Lee. And it's a pretty fucking big deal. Like I remember watching it on the news in our mom's basement. Yeah. Literally when they premiered If I Die Tomorrow, that song. And they returned with the Red, White, and Crew tour.

They put out that massive greatest hits, Red, White, and Crew, You Took Me to Best Buy. And we each bought our own discs. And I because we would have the the discman back then i would listen to all that at summer rec so it's like we literally needed our own cds going to best buy to buy a cd seems like a lifetime ago and the cover of that is like uh it's like an american flag and in some of the stripes you could see clearly like a naked like the the shadows of a naked chick and i was just like this is, like a forbidden thing that I have. Another forbidden thing. I think I might have said something about this on the podcast at some point. And it has nothing to do with Motley but just a funny story.

The way you would get me into all of these bands was you would burn me CDs based on your iTunes. Call them Robbie's Rock and it would be just like complete classic rock. Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, Guns N' Roses, Kiss, whatever was around at the time. Probably a lot of Linkin Park, Blink, all of that stuff. I need someone to talk to about all this shit. Yeah. Because I'm – Yeah, you just crafted me into like a mini you.

Nobody else was listening to this stuff I was listening to. So you did that for me and then eventually by the time we got to like Robbie's Rock 3 or 4, you were getting me into nu metal and corn and slipknot once again way too young for me to be getting into this and you started making fake labels for the cds so mom wouldn't know that you were letting me listen to slipknot that's just a ridiculous tangent but that's that's our relationship um and it's kind of the same thing with my sister would let me watch a jersey shore after she would record it in her room and then mom would be like, you're not watching that, right? Because they had condom commercials and all that. Complete tangent.

I digress. Motley reunites in 2005. They come out with If I Die Tomorrow, which is just a banger of a song written by Sum 41, like the singer of Sum 41. Simple Plan. Simple Plan. I knew it was a pop punk band. Weird, but it's a great song. They put out Red, White & Crew, the complete, what do they call it, an anthology, I guess.

Anthology, right. And also came with Sick Love Song, another good song. And they go on that first Red, White & Crew tour. Now, this is your first opportunity to see your favorite band of all time that, at this point, you are completely immersed in. You know everything about everything Motley Crue. You're obsessed with Tommy Lee. You know how to play every one of his grooves. You had to be chomping at the bit to see these guys live.

An opportunity arose. Quick story. It's not my first opportunity. What do you mean? You could have seen them with like a different drummer and you were like, fuck it. I'm not doing it. So here's how it went down. When they went on the tour to support new tattoo and they announced Samantha Maloney is going to be the drummer.

You're like, boom. Yeah, at this point, I'm like, fuck. Catch you later. Forget this band. What the fuck is my favorite band doing? How is a girl going to be up there on the drums playing a song called Girls, Girls, Girls? What is happening? I'm not going to see them.

And then we're on summer vacation and we're walking the jersey shore boardwalk and they got those wheels of chance oh yeah everyone just wastes their money trying to win swedish fish literally like a one pound bag of swedish fish stuffed cartman yeah and they had a booth that was concert tickets and they had posters everywhere and they had a motley crew poster and under it a little sign for when the concert was going to be in jersey and i was just like maybe this is my only chance to ever see them fucking i'm gonna put you know three dollars on blue pop yeah get lucky here and i probably spent 25 trying to win motley crew tickets that i really didn't even want yeah i was just so torn about am i gonna get a chance to ever see them play i was gonna say that would be an instant regret for me i would be like i would be like

fuck that i'm not going to see him without tommy and then the second i didn't i'd be like i should have gone to see him play it would have been cool so anyway yeah they're back together in 2005 tommy's back it's like literally christmas time i think it got announced so it was like christmas had come early it was like tommy lee is back playing drums and molly crew everything is right with the world so at this point i'm actually out of school and working um you know semi often at madison square garden on the stage crew so i'm checking tour dates and i'm like oh my god there's a chance not only am i going to see them at madison square garden there's a chance i'm going to be building the stage that day hanging the lights doing the thing sure enough you know fast forward and there i am the only kid

on the crew wearing a motley crew t-shirt yeah shout out the devil t-shirt is he on the local crew or is he on the road crew you're like i'm part of the fucking show i'm putting the show on with molly tonight i was so jazzed it was just like adrenaline rushing through my veins i'm like i might yeah you're straight out of high school and all of a sudden you're working a motley crew show at madison square garden their return show to msg that's the shit dreams are made of that's right so we're we're building a stage crew is coming into the building and all of a sudden stage is built now band gear starts coming up on stage and i'm like holy shit that case has drums on it. And there was a guy there, shout out Cha from Madison Square Garden,

usually took care of all the drums. And a bunch of guys in the crew knew I was Motley Crue maniac fan. And now the drums start coming out of the cases. So a couple of guys are like, Cha, let the kid grab a drum. Let him hand you a cymbal, okay? It'll make his whole life.

I'll walk around with a hard-on for the rest of the day. So he looks down at the set list and he looks up at me and he says, what album is louder than hell from? I said, Theater of Pain. He says, what album is on with the show on? I said, Too Fast for Love. He's like, all right, get up here. That was my test. He's just like, is he?

Because if he is, I'll let him come help out with some drums. He's like, let me make sure this guy doesn't just own a Molly shirt and it's one of those cases. So it was like slow motion walking towards the drum riser. Yeah. I got introduced to the drum tech and it was all of a sudden, you know, hand me the kick drum, which, by the way, was a 32 inch. You have to look up pictures of the Tommy Lee Carnival of Sins or Red, White & Crew kick drum. It's preposterous. So the first thing I go to grab is the biggest kick drum I've ever seen in my life.

And I can barely lift it high enough to get it out of the case. And all I could think was, don't fuck this up. If you drop Tommy Lee's kick drum, it would of the case. And all I could think was. Don't fuck this up. This is you drop Tommy Lee's kick drum. It would have been horrible. So I get it up and I barely get it over there. And then all of a sudden. Dude who got me over there. Goes on to do some other detail.

And now it's just me and the drum tech. And now we're just shooting the shit. I'm checking out the set list. That's taped right to his drum riser. I'm now looking at what they're going to be playing. And I can't believe it. They're doing three hours worth of everything I'd ever want to hear. And we get to talking about songs and setup,

and I guess it becomes clear to the tech that I know what I'm doing because I'll just start putting things where they go. Yeah, you know what Tommy's setup is. You're well aware. Yeah, I know how to set up a drum set. I know how to set up Tommy's drum set specifically because I had spent years looking at pictures. And you probably based your setup on Tommy's, yeah? Somewhat, yeah.

Certain things, you know, I would take aspects of certain guys' setup and try to see if that would work for me too. He's like, oh, you know what you're doing, huh? I said, dude, just i know what i'm doing so if there's something specific you need from me let me know but otherwise you know i know where to put this thing i know where to put that thing if the band needs i can play the whole show i know how to play no no big deal if they don't but yeah geeking out hardcore i'm like i got every album i know oh there's songs man turn it down mark yeah he says hang out and after the sound check if he's got a minute i'll introduce you to tommy and i'm like stan marsh whenever wendy comes up to him and just throws up yeah himself

i'm like i might throw up what do you mean you'll introduce me to Tommy? Yeah. And then before I knew it, here comes the band up on stage. And I'm like, holy shit, I'm on fucking stage with Motley Crue. Trying not to throw up on my feet. And this is, by the way, he's not talking about for the opening of the show. He's talking for the sound check in an empty Madison Square Garden. And they come up and they just rip right into Wild Side, my all-time favorite Motley Crue song. And it's like a dream.

It's like tunnel vision. Like an out-of-body experience. It's like when Wayne sees Cassandra for the first time in Wayne's world and it's all glowy and Dreamweaver starts playing. I'm like, I can't believe this. And Tommy keeps looking back at me and I'm kind of tapping on my thighs. Trying so hard to signal, like, I play the drums too, man.

I know, I know. Yeah, exactly. Trying to, like, nail all the fills with the proper, like, hand placement on where the sticks should be. But still hanging back, trying to play it cool, trying to, you know, not get told to get the fuck out of here. So, right after that, they rip into Primal Scream. My all-time favorite Motley Crue song. I mean, it just keeps getting better. Yeah.

After it gets done, Tommy hops down. You know, him and his tech have a quick back and forth about whatever. And then he introduces me. Hey, man, this is Mickey. He's been helping me with the drums all day. He's a big fan. He knows all your shit, man. I've been talking to him.

He's the real deal. And Tommy, cool as could be, you know. Oh, great to meet you, man. Thanks for the help. That's cool. You play the drums? I'm like, yeah, man. You know, I just want to say I spent a lot of time trying to learn your grooves.

And, you know, I feel like it definitely made me a better drummer. So I just, I guess I got to say thanks. And he was like, oh, that's fucking cool, man. Sweet. I said, you know, if you don't mind, can I get a quick picture? He's like, dude, go sit up on the drums. You want to sit up on the drums? And I'm just like, is this real life?

I'm David after the dentist. Yeah. Is this real life i'm david after the dentist yeah oh yeah yeah oh yes yes i'll sit on the drums yeah you want me to play them too so i go up there man i sit up on the drums and we take a quick picture and it's a fucking disposable camera yeah that i bought that morning at a duane reed on the off chance that there's fingers crossed please please let this picture develop right kids there were things called that I bought that morning at a Duane Reade on the off chance that there's going to be. Fingers crossed. Please, please let this picture develop right. Kids, there were things called disposable cameras. And you didn't know for fucking weeks sometimes how the pictures you took were going to turn out.

Sometimes you'd show up to pick up the pictures and you'd be like, it's fucking red eye in every picture. My eyes were closed. I'm like, I cannot have my eyes closed in the one picture I'll ever have with Tommy Lee. Sure enough, it turned out great. They played a great show that night. Tommy's tech hooked me up with sticks with a symbol. Tommy wasn't using anymore. Here, kid, take this.

It was just I mean, it's one of those stories you could tell for the rest of your life. Yeah. And you watched it from like literally the side of the stage because you got to work the show. So you were right up in Nikki Sixx's grill. I still have the drumstick from Tommy Lee's soundcheck. You brought home, I think you gave me the drumstick from the soundcheck and you had the sticks from the show itself. You also have a bag.

One day we should do a video showing off that bag of sticks that you have from old school MSG because people would be shocked at some of the names it's crazy but you see them how many of times how many how many times do you see them on the carnival of sins slash red white and crew tour because you kind of went all out yeah I believe it it was like four or five times I just didn't know when it was all gonna fall apart again I'm like this could be it I got to see them as many times as I could see of them because you know they could get pissed off at each other and fucking cash out again. Yeah.

And you're also old enough at that point to realize that. You see him a bunch on that tour. That's really like when I started getting super into Motley Crue because you would go to the shows and I would just sit in the basement with that shitty drum kit and try to like. Your mom's basement. Yeah. And try to do something with the Walkman. You go to a bunch of shows on that tour, and then in 2008, Motley Crue announces they are putting out Saints of Los Angeles. They might have announced it in 2007, but the album itself comes out July 2008, and it's weird.

I associate that album so much, and people are going to be like, what the fuck, with The Dark Knight because they came out around the same time. And I was listening to that all the time while I was watching the trailer to The Dark Knight all the time. Saints of Los Angeles is my first Motley release. So I'm like waiting for, oh my God, Motley's back. Sort of, you know, your first with Tommy, right? It's funny you say that,

the connection with Motley and Batman because that's how it started with me wanting to play the Batman video game. Yeah, true. And discovering the Motley Crue poster. That's really fucked up. It all comes back to Batman, people. I mean, Batman's just the fucking up. Motley Crue poster. That's really fucked up. It all comes back to Batman, people. I mean, Batman's just the fucking best.

That's why I got him tattooed on my arm. You're on tour at this point. First tour. Your first tour, band called Pensive. Shout out Pensive. San Diego. Yeah.

You are touring the country and I was just trying to consume myself with everything Motley Crue. They put out Saints of Los Angeles and that press conference, if you remember correctly, you and me watched together. I remember we recorded it and watched it on DVR.

This is how specific it was. They play that song and it intros with the sickest bass groove ever. Mom, who knows nothing about, you know, the specifics of instruments or whatever, looked at it and was like, all right, we're going to send it back. I don't even think I took it out of the box. And it was such a buzzkill, too, because I was like, oh, my God, I'm about to'm about to be able to play the bass and you know you don't realize you think it's going to show up and I'm going to be ripping into flea groups as soon as it shows up and we're like we have to send it back you'll have one in two weeks I'm like fuck eventually got a miniature bass started playing bass uh because of that and I listened to Saints of Los Angeles as an album roughly 10,000 times and it's one of those albums that if I put on today, it takes me back.

I think about like you're on tour. I'm aim messaging you of like how about Face Down in the Dirt? Like how great a song is that? With the four original members. The four original, yeah. That really had excitement for me because I was just like, finally, I'm going to be able to go to Best Buy on release day and buy the Motley Crue CD with Tommy on drums. I can't wait to sit down. The lead single is fucking awesome. And they were about to go on Crew Fest, right? So they had Buck Cherry. They had like Papa Roachers on that, right?

Just a bunch of like gang vocals in the chorus. It's a sick song. It's got an awesome music video as well The music video though always still to this day I watch it on YouTube It's so fucking blurry Like someone re-upload that I don't know what the issue there is

That's a grievance for another time What do you think of Saints of Los Angeles when you come out? Love it When it comes out it was one of those Oh god I hope it doesn't suck I want to love it so much That I hope it doesn't suck. I want to love it so much that I hope it doesn't suck because they're, you know, been back together for a while now. I've seen them a bunch of times.

They sound great live. The live show is incredible. It seems like finally not just me, other people I know are all of a sudden talking about Motley Crue again. And part of me is just like, yeah, i've been fucking talking about them for 10 years and you've been looking at me sideways because you've all got corn t-shirts on and you think i'm listening to that cheesy band from that video where vince looks like brutus the barber beefcake yeah but it's like no i've been i've been telling you man yeah fucking they're the truth crew's the truth after saints of los angeles comes out they go on tour again, and I finally get to see Motley Crue for the first time.

I saw them at Bamboozle with you and Russo, and it was May 1st, 2011. And I remember that very specifically because it was the day we got Bin Laden. I saw Motley at Bamboozle that day. Bruno Mars was the quote-unquote opening act. It's a festival, so not really an opening. Weird lead-in to Motley, but Motley had like a short set that day. They played all the hits, and it was fucking awesome. And then we got Bin Laden.

Shout out America. Shout out Steel Team 6. Yeah. Motley continues touring for a few years. They eventually announced a farewell tour, their farewell tour. Unlike most bands' farewell tours where Kiss, we just joked about, has gone on 1,000, Motley signed contracts where they were like, listen, if we reunite after this tour that we're telling you is a farewell tour, everyone gets their money back that bought tickets. Pretty serious about it with Alice Cooper as their support.

We went to a show on that at MSG. Fucking unreal show. Alice Cooper blew us away. We walked in. I remember being like, I feel like we're in Wayne's World right now. He's playing Feed My Frankenstein. We walked into MSG. It's crazy. It's World right now. He's playing Feed My Frankenstein. We walked in down there. It's crazy.

It's a good vibe. And Tommy had obviously the crazy roller coaster drum kit on that tour. If you haven't seen a video of that, another thing, very, very worth checking out. There's like a little featurette on YouTube from the end, the last show, that's really, really cool about kind of like the thought process that Tommy always had about drumming, which I think is awesome. Basically, how can I make this as visually interesting as possible? Molly's complete MO from the start, really. If you watch The Dirt, you could tell Nicky's talking about that. Or if you read The Dirt, it was all about the theatrics. How can we make people look at us? Because if we know that they could, if we could get them to watch, we know we'll get them to stick around with the music. When was the first time you saw Tommy in his original drum riser that goes over the cage,

that goes over the crowd? Was it the Wild Side video or something? Because that had to blow your mind as well. So it's not even that. It goes back to one tour before that, to the Theater of Pain tour. All things come back to being at Grandma's house. And after I really got into Crew and was talking to our uncles about it, both our uncles loved Crew. Obsessed, yeah. Knew all of the material and were in bands.

Basically like perfect encyclopedias for you to go to with any questions you had. Totally. Uncle Kev was in bands covering Motley Crue. I mean, he's been in clubs playing Looks That Kill. While Looks That Kill was on the radio at the time. Crazy. Uncle Den was going to record stores and buying albums like Girls, Girls, Girls and Dr. Feelgood when they came out. Which I always say, looking back at Dr. Feelgood, knowing the entire storyline that went around around that record.

Right before, that's when Nicky ODs. Everyone, even if you're not a Motley fan, probably know that about Motley Nikki ODs and he survives it he gets well he doesn't he actually dies and then they revive him he gets clean after that not immediately after his uh he tells the story in the heroin diaries he actually went right back to doing heroin right after he got out of the hospital. But he eventually gets clean. All of Motley gets clean and they make Dr. Feelgood. And I could not imagine being a Motley Crue fan back then, putting Dr. Feelgood on the vinyl player for the first time and hearing that intro. When I really got into all the songs, not just the greatest hits,

I would get told our uncles would suggest things like, hey, go back and check out this song. It's got a great drum beat. You should learn that. And I would get further and further into being able to learn and play this stuff. So, you know, Uncle Dan would be like, you know, there's a box of VHS tapes in the attic in Grandma's. It's just tons of Motley Crue, like, bootleg concerts. leg concerts and i'm like i basically felt like i had to run over there that very minute yeah scour the attic like in the goonies looking for that map to one-eyed willie i have to have this

what do you mean there's a bootleg box of motley there's a treasure yeah i'm going now yeah and sure enough man i went and I stumbled upon the box. And sure enough, it is full of VHS tapes. And I put one in and it's Motley Crue on the Theater of Pain tour. And it's just like probably one of those up on the shoulder cameras. The guy's hiding like every third song so he doesn't get booted from the fucking show. And it sounds sort of bad, but sort of you could make it out. And the drum solo on that tour is the kit is bolted to the riser. And for the solo, the riser comes up 90.

Oh, he's sideways. Yeah. So that was Tommy. He talks about like his original – he's watching someone do a drum solo in concert and he was like it would be so much cooler if you could see a bird's eye view of the kit. So that's, it would be so much cooler if you could see a bird's eye view of the kit. So that's what it would a drummer, Tommy is as close to a front man behind the kit as you're ever going to get. Totally. I mean, there's just nothing to not love about watching that guy smash the fuck out of everything back there and then lean into the mic and say, make some fucking noise for me. And then they go crazy and he goes i can't hear you and

they go even fucking crazier and it was like i'm gonna do that i'm definitely between songs like tommy's the one yelling and yeah you wound up basically incorporating like tommy lee everything tommy lee did into your drumming style you know he's playing a song like red hot which is a crazy double bass drum groove and in that same video I'm watching him play this crazy fast, hard double bass drum groove. And also he's bouncing the stick off the snare drum and straight up into the air and keeping the groove going. And the stick's coming back down and he's catching it. And I'm like, this guy is a magician.

Yeah. And it just, he kept taking it further and further. The next tour, he's in the spinning cage that's going upside down. After that, Dr. Feelgood tour. He's flying over the audience, and he's playing along with amazing classic rock songs. He's got an electronic kit suspended above the crowd, and he's playing along with stuff like Custard Pie from Zeppelin, and Back in the Saddle from Aerosmith, and Back in Black from ACDC and ballroom blitz from sweet and the place is just eating out of the palm of his hand and still to this day as I'm talking

about it I'm like I can't believe a fucking drummer made people go that insane during the drum solo you know like nobody else people would go take a piss or buy a t-shirt during the drum solos when he would go to shows and be like yeah this is kind of a bummer man this is a really good drummer this is a really good solo but people are bailing they're gonna go grab a beer or buy a fucking pretzel i gotta figure out how to keep them engaged and he did yeah absolutely nobody does better drum solos than tommy someone that reminds me of him now is Taylor Hawkins. Taylor with the mic, obviously, singing back up on a lot of Foo songs. He'll come out to the front of the stage and sing Queen and shit.

And everything we just talked about, all those drum solos, you could pretty much find videos of them all on YouTube, but I don't want you to do that yet. I want you to just think about something. How much time do you spend in front of your digital screens? For me, I know I spend hours at a time looking at my screens. Between my phone, work, binging new shows, looking up all of these Tommy Lee drum solo videos all day, video games, scrolling before bed, whatever.

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Specifically, when my brother continued to have a little communication with his favorite drummer of all time his hero let's get back into it tommy makes another methods of mayhem album this is before motley is calls it quits he makes another methods of mayhem album with an insane concept the concept was basically i'm gonna put the rough demos out there and i'm gonna have fan submission send me your guitar tracks send me your guitar tracks send me your bass tracks send me your backup vocal tracks send me your uh drum tracks i want to see what you got and this was like you're like okay here's my shot here's my shot here we go i'm gonna marry pam anderson i'm gonna marry pam anderson i'm gonna send videos to tommy lee and you start

sending him videos all right let me let me take a crack at this this uh whatever song he's put now let me let me take a crack at it immediately you gained pretty big success in terms of like the uh the actual website it was on what was called the public record the public record yeah it was the first record ever done like this where they said you know i want to make a record with the entire like crowdsourced basically a crowdsourced record really cool concept another thing where it's like tommy nicky all the motley guys constantly thinking forward, constantly thinking ahead. And what can we try that's fucked up? You start getting a lot of support from the public record.

People are commenting, this guy's got to be on the record. This guy's got to be on the record. And Tommy takes notice, which was fucking crazy to be in the household and have you walk up to me and be like, I got to show you a video of Tommy Lee talking about me being a great drummer. It's like, what are you talking about? It still feels like pretend world when, when we're talking about it now. Yeah. And I'll lay the audio in this podcast. You could hear it. It happened many times, like over the course of a few weeks, I think it was maybe every week he would put out, you know, here's this week's demo. Let me see your submissions. And at the end of the week, he would be like, here is my favorite one. He said that about you four or five times maybe.

He started saying where we were from. He started clowning us on Little Ferry. He's like, Little Ferry? Did you say Little Ferry? I remember just being like, Tommy Lee is talking about Little Ferry, New Jersey right now? He's like, just making fun of my town. Just making fun of my town. Like that's what the people from Richfield Park do.

And I don't care because it's Tommy Lee. Mickey Fox from Little F Fairy, New Jersey. Did you just say fairy? I said Little Fairy. Jesus. From Little Fairy, New Jersey. And that's a pretty ripping video there, Mickey Fox. Loving that.

Mickey Fox from Little Fairy, New Jersey. Mickey Fox from Little Fairy, New Jersey. Sent in some really cool drum stuff of him playing. Sounded great. Well done. Sounds great. Great playing too, man. Dude, this one's killer.

I immediately stuck my headphones on and cranked it. You put out a bunch on that, and you're actually credited on the record. If you open the booklet to the Methods of Mayhem record, it says Mickey Fox on the song Drunk Uncle Pete, but unfortunately not for any of your drum tracks. So I was so sure I was going to be playing drums on that record. We all were. You won every contest. He was like, yep, this was definitely the best drum track of the bunch. And he was familiar with you on a first-name basis by the end of it.

He's like, yep, Mickey won again. So at the tail end of that project, the songs were going up a week at a time. And at the tail end of it, they threw up a really, really sparse track. There was like, basically, it was just like a metronome, sort of a click, a little bit of synth maybe, and some gang vocal choruses it was wide open to the point where i didn't even know if it was a song i didn't even know where the song was so i went into the studio with this producer i was working with on these projects and he was just like what are you going to do here i'm like i don't even know but do do me a favor. Just give me four clicks to count me in and I'm just going to let something rip and whatever.

It will just be a drum track. Is that how you were doing a bunch of those or were you like sitting down trying to like write? Was that your first time like trying to write drum parts kind of? Yeah, totally. Did you take to that easily or no? On some of the tracks, it felt like they came easy. And on other tracks, it kind of felt like I didn't really have a lot of room to change what Tommy had already laid down in the demo without i wanted to stand out and maybe make the track but i also didn't want to take it so far away from where the song structure was that my shit was just going to get tossed on the floor like what the fuck this doesn't even work for any of this yeah

that but on the last track where i just went there's there's not even a song here i don't even know why he put this up i'm just gonna let something rip and i went in and literally just played my fucking ass off like some kind of alien fucking mosh groove and he just said give me a few minutes and i came back in and he had worked a little bit of magic and this became the one song that tommy and his producer scott humphrey just went fucking crazy for yeah and i was like i am definitely gonna be on this record This is Mickey rise up with Mickey Fox Just just you know great parts and the delays that you are either playing along to a recording with I'm not sure how you How you were doing that sound dope, bro?

Oh, these are the I think I believe is the delay beats Mickey Fox he sent in some really cool stuff whatever it is it's hidden it's in the red like oh yeah by the way boys guys easy on the level minus six hello It's Vito. Come on, get up and dance. Yeah, that's the shit right there, dude. Woo! Blowing up the area.

It's kind of cool when it's blowing up, but... That sounds like something you play on drums. Yeah, right? It sounds like Planet Boom. Totally. Yeah, sounds like planet boom totally yeah when i saw the video i was like oh man i hope you sent the audio in the video for this okay banging that's where i originally saw it put it about the way you do you get the video i run the blog sounds like you're going. Yeah. Fun. Really good stuff, dude.

Nice job, Mickey. He even says in the video response he used, he's like, dude, I'm definitely going to be using some of this. Yeah. Tommy and his producer are sitting at the board listening. And at one point, his producer looks over at Scott's like, it sounds like you playing in there. And I'm pretty sure I blacked out. Yeah. And had to be brought back like nicky yet od and on heroin but it was just on pure adrenaline and check with everyone who

watched the video that i was like smacking them in the face with the video i'm like he said he said he's ty he said when i play a drum i think he sounds like tomm Tommy Lee's playing the drums. When I'm, yeah, I play and then he, right? That's what he said, right? Okay. Yep. Yeah, I got this. And then the album came out and yeah, it was most of Tommy's original drums. Yeah, Tommy just decided he was going to use his own drums.

But man, I really should have saw that coming. But he uses something that you threw into one of the songs, a sound effect. Yeah. saw that coming but he uses something that you threw into one of the songs uh sound effect yeah song was called drunk uncle pete and uh it's a song about having a fucking belligerent drunk uncle constantly like ruining holidays and shit like that and there was like a quick break between the second chorus and you know rest of the song and i was like, you know what would be funny here to throw in is just the sound of a beer can cracking. That producer was like, yeah, we could do that.

I'm like, I'll go buy some beer. I'll be right back. I went to the bodega outside and bought a six pack of Budweiser's and just standing in the middle of a studio with a beer. How far from the microphone? Is this too close? Beer lower? Meet me further up.

It's like you're making Bohemian Rhapsody. Yeah. With a Budweiser. Yeah. So, you know. And that wound up on the record and it says in the credits

for that song, you know, Mickey Fox. There you go. So I'll play it here. Here you go. This is my brother's credit on a Tommy Lee song.

Legendary. Biblical stuff right there. Skipping forward a bit, we got to talk about The Dirt. I know people listening to this, probably a lot of them were maybe introduced to Motley because of this movie. This movie introduced a fuck ton of kids my age to Motley Crue, including like Ria we talk about from Chicks in the Office is all in on Motley Crue, read The Dirt immediately after watching the movie, has seen the movie probably 12 times the amount of times I've seen the movie, and a ton of people are like this.

So The Dirt finally gets made. We talked about it maybe getting made in 2008. I can't believe how long it took. It was a Chinese democracy-esque process to get this movie made. Jeff Tremaine, the director, involved the entire time, start to finish. Somehow he remained on that project. The movie drops in March, and we are both pretty fucking big fans of it i loved it it's fun and uh it's a great sort of glimpse into you know the big moments and specifically the start of the band and how they really just had this vision of taking over the Sunset Strip and believed in what they were doing. Even though it seemed like a lot of people weren't ready for that kind of genre mixing. Yeah.

Because they have elements of metal and they have elements of punk and they have elements of pop. And they sort of just went out there and said this is who we are and this is what we do and we're gonna keep fucking doing it until you're all on board and they did and they took over the strip so it was cool seeing you know basically what was a group of kids with a dream you know tommy lee was 17 yeah and started dropped out of high school to go be a rock star. Good call. Great call.

I mean, like he knew right away. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm fucking Tommy Lee. This is going to happen. And it's like – I described it I think when I wrote the blog. It's like a scrapbook kind of. Like you said, it gives you the big moments and they do a good enough job with it where it definitely doesn't like disparage the legacy at all. It doesn't – the Aussie legacy at all it doesn't the Aussie scene I love I love that they included that from the book they they include like little tiny

things like when Nikki wakes up and he has half a burrito in bed and he looks at it for a second funny and he throws it away like I love that kind of stuff the fan service literally it's like a Star Wars like intricate reference to a scene in the dirt the book um I love the movie I've watched it a ton you've you've watched it a ton. You've watched it a couple times as well. What would you say at this point, looking back on Motley Crue a few years after they've actually retired,

what do you think, like looking now back on Motley Crue, what is their lasting legacy? You know what? Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are going to think of how crazy they all were and the decadence and 80s and drugs and playmates. I think the music doesn't get the credit it deserves. Like Guitar Hero and Rock Band, those games, and movie soundtracks, and even commercials. They had a Super Bowl commercial with Adriana Lima.

Good call, once again. Awesome call. Songs like Kickstart My Heart, Home Sweet Home, like the end of Hot Tub Time Machine where they do Home Sweet Home. I think it took everyone a little while to realize how part of the culture they actually are. Yeah. They were so big. When they were at their peak, I don't think people realize, like people talk about Drake now. They were Drake big.

They were fucking colossally big. And then, you know, Kurt Cobain comes along with his flannel shirt. Yeah. And everything leading up to that is considered silly. Yeah. Which is why anytime I'd be a kid in school talking about listening to Theater of Pain, the kid with the slipknot jacket on is looking at me like he wants to fight me. Yeah. He's calling me words.

He's like the dude that looks like a lady literally from the Aerosmith song. And they're like literally mixing up titles on me. They're like, that band with that song, Pour Some Sugar On Me. And I'm like, oh, no, you don't get it, man. Tommy Lee and fucking Mick Mars and these riffs and the way they look. So, yeah, I think the legacy will be the fact that these guys survived their crazy lifestyle. True. And that, you know, Tommy Lee is like the original celebrity sex tape guy.

Yeah. Back in the VHS days. And I think it's unfortunate that people aren't going to immediately talk about how many great songs they had. But you know what? Looking back, the numbers don't lie. The millions and millions of records sold. I mean, any band who can sell up Madison Square Garden many times over,

you've done alright for yourself. You've got fans. So, I think they're one of the greatest American rock bands to ever do it. Unquestionably. Yeah, duh. Let's talk about the music, though. We just talked about people maybe won't focus enough on the music.

People won't realize how many great songs they had. Let's talk about our – we made our top ten lists of songs that if you're not a Motley Crew fan, you probably don't know. We'll start at ten. I'll kick off the list with Toast of the Town off Too Fast for Love. Toast of the Town, good Fast for Love. Toast of the Town. Good call. What's your number 10? My number 10 is also something from Too Fast for Love.

Okay. I got Starry Eyes. My number nine off Girls, Girls, Girls. My only song on the list off that album, Bad Boy Boogie. Number nine. Okay. So number nine comes from the self-titled Motley Crue album. We didn't get into this at all.

We didn't. But I actually did save it because I have so much of MC-94, as we call it, on my list that I was like, we're going to do a lot of talking about that record. All right, so for real quick, anyone who doesn't know, in 1994, the band put out the first and only record they would release without Vince Neil on vocals. They got a guy named John Karabi from a band called The Scream to come record a record. And it is immediately like dismissed by most of the hard rock and Motley Crue fan community because it was just like, I think everyone was just like, well, this doesn't sound like Motley Crue. And also probably dismissed from the grunge community because Motley's kind of trying to sound grunge on that

record and i'm sure they were all like you said the the kurt cobain fans probably like get the fuck out of here with this shit so anyway i mean we could do an entire episode on the john karabi motley crew we are we are telling you this album is so fucking awesome. It's unbelievable. And they become a five piece at that point because John Karabi played rhythm guitar in that band as well. So the sound is thicker and heavier. It's crunchy, super crunchy, the whole album. So my number nine is from that record. My number eight comes off Shout at the Devil. And it was a song that I didn't really appreciate enough until very recently.

And by the way, my one through eight I was saying to Mike before, I made, my, my nine and 10, I was flip-flopping all of these. It was like, yep, definitely ain't going to be on there. Is actually from another record that sort of gets pushed away immediately by fans. It's from the generation swine record released in 97 songs called let us pray. I've posted a ton of pictures. You could look back on my Twitter. Comically big. My number seven is something off Dr. Feelgood. And it's a very interesting song because the lyrical content is almost complete and utter. Like it's just super vulgar.

You know what I'm about to say? I know what you're going to say. It's She Goes Down. It's very immature. It's very adolescent. It's a song about blowjobs. It's a song about blowjobs. And you know what? Blowjobs are great. This song's great. New track, I guess you would say, for a greatest hits, the original greatest hits that came out in 98. With like the almost like caricature type cover. Yeah, so that's the first Motley Crue CD I buy to check them out.

And the first song I hear is called Bitter Pill. Now, this was a hard song for me not to put in the top five. The top six for me, these are songs that I fucking love, like genuinely love. Number six off the self-titled Motley Crue album. What is your number six? Okay, so we're not going too far away from what we were just talking about. My number six is the second track you hear on the Greatest Hits record, which was also a new track they recorded

just to release new music with their Greatest Hits package. It's called Enslaved. My number five, now getting into the top five, comes off Saints of Los Angeles. And it's one of those songs, I mentioned it earlier in the podcast, it's the most cinematic song off that album. Number five for me, Red Hot. Speaking of ripping, speaking in your face, my number four, Power to the Music. Do we need to say it again, people? Go check out Motley Crue's self-titled. Please, please check out Motley Crue's self-titled, please.

My number four, again, from Shout at the Devil, it's Danger. Yeah, Danger is a great one. Now we're getting to the top three. This one, my number three, comes off Generation Swine, and it's very much a Nikki Sixx showcase track. It's flush. Okay, what's your number three? Okay, so my number three is from Motley Crue's self-titled. My number three is Hammered.

Can't say enough good things about that record. My number two comes from Dr. Feelgood, and it actually has a massive homage to my favorite Beatles song. My number two on this list is Slice of Your Pie. Number two for me from Generation Swine is Flush. And my number one track, once again off the Motley Crue self-title. It sucks you in and then, you know.

It's epic. It feels epic. Rips you up, yeah. Yeah. What is your number one Motley Crue deep cut slash song that people probably don't know that they should? I think it's a song you know very well. My number one is from Too Fast for Love. It is Take Me to the Top.

We did have – we had Jehovah's Witnesses that lived behind us growing up. And I remember – this is a weird story. But I remember I had that – remember that big purple boombox we had for a while? It was probably our sisters. But I was listening to Red White and Crew on that, and he went to mom about Shout at the Devil. And he said, your son is, I was like working with the pitchback. You know, I was having a catch with myself in the backyard listening to some

Motley and he went to mom about it and I remember mom telling me, she's like, yeah, I told him. It's Shout at the Devil. So, which is actually like the excuse they used back then when they were like, no, no, we're not making devil music. Shout at the Devil. Spin zone. Literally mom came up with the same spin zone as Nikki Sixx.

Pretty simple one. Bro, it was a lot of fun having you here. We're going to do a few of these podcasts. I think we want to do one for KS. We want to do one for Guns N' Roses where we kind of just take you through our fandom of the bands because I assume people have very similar stories. Maybe not with the inner details of you getting credited on a Tommy album and you being able to work the shows and shit. But I hope if you are a Motley Crue fan out there, you got some enjoyment out of this. And I hope if you're not a Motley Crue fan, you got some enjoyment out of this. Please, if you haven't

already, make sure you download, you rate, subscribe, you review. I've had some people given one and two star reviews. What a bunch of cunts. We got to have everyone, if you haven't given a review yet, go in, give us a five-star, and drown those cunts out. Bro, it was a lot of fun having you here, and I'll have you back soon. Thanks. It's Rocktober. I'm happy to be back in our mom's basement. Absolutely.

See you next week. See ya.