My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 305 - AHSOKA FINALE

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

Robbie and Clem react to the Ahsoka finale! Did it live up to the hype?! Where does Ahsoka rank among the other live action Star Wars shows?! Did Thrawn succeed in his plan?! What were those statues a...ll about?! What's next for Ahsoka?! All of these questions AND MORE will be answered in this podcast! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! Factor: Head to FACTORMEALS.com/lcb50 and use code lcb50 to get 50% off. That’s code lcb50 at FACTORMEALS.com/lcb50 to get 50% off! Celebrity Mint: Follow @thecelebritymint or visit NY Comic Con Oct. 14 as they launch on eBay Live via the eBay app with Nature Boy Ric Flair & a chance to win $2,500! **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3C and Barstool Sports. I am your host today via Variety or Deadline that it's not confirmed, but it's very likely that they're getting a season two. Obviously, we know we're getting an heir to the Empire movie or possibly even trilogy from Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau. But this finale, it just left me wanting more. I loved it. Don't get me wrong. Loved it. But you leave us on a cliffhanger like
Starting point is 00:00:45 that. It's going to be years until we get a conclusion to this story, I think. Yeah, that kind of hurts. I was hoping, I think we said on the last episode, we were hoping for some serious action. And I'll flat out say, I was hoping for a death. I was hoping for a big death. It's kind of one of the nice things about not being as attached to a story as a lot of the other people who are watching. I could just be like, that person means nothing to me. I didn't have an entire animated series that I grew to love them. So I was hoping for Sabine death maybe. We thought Hu Yang was on the chopping block for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:18 If you want to murder the kid, you can kill Jason. Really get deep with it, dark with it, right? So we didn't get that. We got more. It was more cliffhanging than I thought it was going to be. Is that fair to say? Because I think in the other Star Wars shows, we got a little more wrapped up. At least that was my first take on at least the Mandalorian is what I think of. And and and or which and or as what, two seasons where this has an entire franchise basically being branched off of it so i thought we were going to get more but i had fun i had fun and i am like what is it 75 percent there to feel like this is a show for me now i'm still there's a lot of missing pieces still that
Starting point is 00:01:58 i think i'm not getting but i'm i'm fine with it i'm looking forward to season two as well yeah i agree it's much more of a cliffhanger ending than I expected. Like I wouldn't call this a 10 out of 10 finale that left me completely satisfied because yes, we wanted thrown to deliver a little more damage. We wanted him to kill somebody. We wanted to see a little more conclusion. I think at least to Baylin's stuff,
Starting point is 00:02:24 which I understand that that's tricky the actor ray stevenson rest in peace passed away so i don't know if they wanted to leave that ambiguous to see if they could go further with that or if they want to recast them i don't know if they even know what they want to do with that but i thought it was a very good finale and it felt good to be right about some stuff some of our season season long predictions here actually came to fruition. And that, that always feels good. When we go wrong,
Starting point is 00:02:50 we go epically massively wrong to the point where usually apologizing to the audience or the character we were wrong about. It feels good not to have to really write any apologies today. I'm not even going to apologize to Sabine for wanting her dead. You still have to show me more. Sabine, she showed us some of this episode. We're progressing.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Still got to see more. By the way, I didn't even realize you got the straight up Vader sweater on right now. What a move by my God. Threw that on for the finale, you know. It's a big one. Yep. And again, that guy is kind of the biggest, like, specter they have, even though he's a ghost. I guess specter is the perfect word for it.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Having him just kind of bop in always will it's like a cheap some cheap heat gives me like a nice little boost and it always like raises it a couple like percentage points in my rankings whenever i can see anakin popping around there this ahsoka finale edition of my mom's basement is brought to you by three chi of all the things in life one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want whenever you want without the paranoia of consuming some sketchy black market stuff. What's the best way to do that? With 3Chi, of course. 3Chi has the highest quality cannabis products, from their delicious Delta 9 edibles and their industry-leading Delta 8 products, to their new line of Delta 9 O vapes and everything in between. Today, we've got something truly revolutionary to talk about.
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Starting point is 00:05:09 the Jedi, the witch, and the warlord. A little reference to the Chronicles of Narnia there, the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe. Did you catch that? I caught it. I loved it. I was a big fan. I want to say of Narnia,
Starting point is 00:05:21 basically, I think like most people, I read the first book. I read the lion book I read the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe loved it and just never really pursued it any more than that it was everything we read in school and I never just went on my own but I don't know why I never got into it I love the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe you did as well right I liked the first movie but I didn't ever went further so I did the same thing with the movies that you did with the book did they make more movies i don't even know that's the thing they did they made a bunch of them yeah liam neeson was the uh the lion he did the voice of the lion king at some point i
Starting point is 00:05:53 think they brought in there's a princess that won the ice princess or some shit like that yeah i don't know but it's not the first reference to narnia because the world between worlds is a reference to the woods between worlds I believe oh shit I didn't even think about just all this Narnia talk kind of wants me to like dive in and find some sort of like some some Narnia content and for the people that are newer to the basement or don't get into our marvel recaps because they're more star wars fans me and Bob Fox actually talking Narnia. We had Turkish delight back in. It was Captain and whatever Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 00:06:30 We tried it out. And I have to say it was not as good when he he sell the kid that sells out his friends for the Turkish delight of like the ice which or whatever. I'm like, man, I always thought that shit must have tasted so good. Good enough to make you want to sell out your friends to an ice witch. And we had it and it was like a three out of 10 compared to maybe it's our American taste buds are used to like that corn syrup and that sugar being through the roof. It was very matte in my opinion. Yeah, I threw out the box. I didn't even finish it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Like I took a couple bites. I gave my girlfriend some. She was like, yeah, I don't want this. So we threw them out. That was gross. We do have a lot to talk about in this episode so let's get into it it begins with thrawn the night mothers and morgan elspeth all meeting on this little platform that is connected to now thrawn star destroyer and they're preparing the eye of scion to connect to the star destroyer which made sense i didn't realize that it was going to hook around it but it was foolish of me not to realize that and thrawn has a great line about never underestimating a jedi he's like i've seen many imperial officers underestimate the rebellion
Starting point is 00:07:36 before i even once underestimated a single jedi he's telling them at all points, basically, do not ever take this safety for granted. Jedi can come from the most unexpected turns on most unexpected ways avenues. So just keep an eye out. And Morgan Elsbeth is given the gift of shadows by the Night Mothers, which I got to say, it took all of three minutes maybe for me to go, this is metal. When they grab her head and they're burning marks into it and her eyes go black. And then they basically just like craft the blade of Talzin right in front of her, which is the Talzin was like the original Nightmother, I think. So this is like an ancient blade that she probably fought within the Clone Wars and whatnot. This was a really cool scene and a really big setup for the finale, I thought.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I thought this was a great way to start the episode. Okay, so I had the blade of Talzin. I didn't know anything about it. I'm like, what are we doing? It felt like she was kind of getting clothes for Christmas. It's like they're just giving her this. I didn't know. Oh, it has a green glowy thing.
Starting point is 00:08:44 A little bit more witch magic i needed to know how high on the witch is like is this just we've had it laying around we were looking to read you know the regifting it or something that sounds like it was much more of a jester you tell they have some love for this chick they have a little bit of love for as much a little bit as much as witches could have right witches aren't i don't think i'd known as a loving bunch i don't want to get canceled by the witch population no i think you're right about that they make her sign off on it basically they're like all right if you really want this give up all attachment give up the almost you know jedi like big cat is facing the swifties right now i don't want to face like the witchies and the witchies that's the least that's the group
Starting point is 00:09:23 i would fuck with the least in this world. They'll put some legit spells on you. The turning her face, marking her face, kind of getting her on that witch path. I appreciate it because she looks less like Sherry O'Terry. And I'm like, okay, you are not Sherry O'Terry. I can take you seriously now as a villain in this show. Absolutely. I thought that actually when it happened i thought of dave and i
Starting point is 00:09:45 was like i hope that made it a little better for dave i hope this viewing experience was more pleasurable for him and we got to get his thoughts on the finale i don't think he's watched it yet but as soon as he texts me and i figure out what he thought of it i'll of course update everyone because this is going to be a two episode week for us we're going to be doing a loki recap later in the week that's right i forgot about that and we're watching gen v i i have one episode left you have two episodes left right yep so we still we'll get some sort of stuff out for gen v at some point i don't know how it's all going to work but it is hitting like the boys said i wouldn't say it's at that level but it's very close for again three episodes combined between the two of us i'm reading about the the mother talzin here
Starting point is 00:10:25 and it says she she arrived on the moon as the ritual began um in terms of some ritual they were doing in the show and she summoned her sword from the mist and engaged the jedi but who confronted her mace windu and jar jar binks wow wow yeah you think you're safe, and then Mace Windu and Jar Jar Binks roll up on you, and all bets are off. Samuel L. Jackson and Jar Jar Binks go to a fucking – go to a bar. That sounds like the beginning of a joke right there more than anything. That is that right. That was – this is probably when he became – like flipped to Darth Jar Jar. I just never knew that.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's probably like the thing that got him on that path right there so very interesting. He's got a history on Dathomir with Nightsister magic yeah we get a really cool look at Ezra crafting a new lightsaber and I loved just seeing him put the pieces together like
Starting point is 00:11:20 we did when we were at Disney it was like oh shit obviously there's the deleted scene from Return of the Jedi of Luke putting his together and stuff, but we don't get to see the actual construction of it very often. And he's doing it right alongside Hu Yang. So he's getting kind of advice,
Starting point is 00:11:35 but it's kind of backseat driving as well. He's like, you're not doing it right. You got to do it like this. I've been doing it for 25,000 years. And they make a little reference to the emitter being one that's narrow like it's a narrow emitter it makes the blade thinner which is a great reference and little nod to the blades being thinner and star wars rebels the cartoon and this was a big criticism
Starting point is 00:11:56 for star wars rebels people didn't like that the lightsabers looked super thin which was very much a nod to ralph mccorry's art style i like that they referenced it in this show that doesn't sound right you tell me star wars fans were upset about a change that was made over the time from the original stuff to the newer stuff that doesn't sound like the star wars fans i know and love yeah they they tend to nitpick every now and then just every now and then just every now and then uh my guy who yang i'm very happy that he was kind of like he's kind of being looked at like oh you know anything it's like yeah he's a fucking droid he's a billion years old did they not realize he's a billion years old and this okay how is it pronounced kanan kanan who's yeah he's the he was he's her he was her as
Starting point is 00:12:40 a boy toy and that's his and uh jason's master and then ezra's master which again star wars it's poetry it rhymes feels like he then takes jason under his wing in the future feels like it's an inevitability at some point there and this was just like his lightsaber kanan's lightsaber is so it's basically he's now recreating the lightsaber that his master had and then he becomes the master to his son with that feels like a very wholesome-y star wars kind of circle here no doubt i think that's absolutely where they're going to go in the future with it harrah is kind of like it's it's not his mom but she's kind of like uh you know de facto mom is that the way to use de facto i think so yeah i think we got
Starting point is 00:13:25 that one i think we did pretty good yeah that was a first for me um but who yang also explains the fallout between sabine and ahsoka finally we get the full explanation and i actually really enjoyed the full explanation he says after moff gideon bombed mandalore the whole siege of mandalore at the end of the war, which means it was just a real petty move by Gideon. Like they lost the war. He's like, fuck it. Let's bomb Mandalore. Ahsoka got afraid that Sabine was using her energy and her anger in the wrong way. She was training for the wrong reasons. And really her anger was taking over her need for revenge. So that's why they split off.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And then they go talk on the ship for a while. The wing of the ship, they're attacked by tie fighters. I love getting the, the tie fighter sound, which we always praise, but just seeing them dock out and everything. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Ezra and Ahsoka hold up the ship when it falls and it's attacked by the tie fighters just long enough for it to like take off and that was awesome too when it takes out the two tie fighters with the wings just a great action scene to kick off what was basically an action-filled episode i i also loved when the tie fighters left the star destroyer in the beginning of the episode after um thrawn had said let's get the tie fighters he has his little moment with the witches and they end the scene with the TIE fighters taken off. And I was like, those things are basically just treated as trash by the empire. They just, no shields, let them go in basic kamikaze missions
Starting point is 00:14:54 nonstop, but they fucking nailed it in terms of, uh, it just, I don't know, man, there's something about them just gets the blood rushing and hearing it. And they, they are, they're kind of like storm troopers in that so often in the original trilog they are they're kind of like stormtroopers in that so often in the original trilogies they're kind of just disposable but when they are at scale such a bigger threat than anything else you're like oh fuck two tie fighters are coming for our ass so i i was the same way and again the flow of the tie the tie fighters though you could just run a ship right through them and they just destroy, man. Poor fucking pilots, man.
Starting point is 00:15:27 If you sign up for being a TIE fighter pilot or a stormtrooper, like, what are you even doing, man? I understand wanting to fight a war and, you know, better your life, better your family's life. You're just getting thrown. Like, you are basically just being thrown into a meat grinder if you're going into either of those jobs. Yeah, I feel like they're going to show, like, from andor next season they're going to be making tie fighters out of paper mache oh this makes sense now why they're so easy to kill yeah whenever the empire like the budget was in the red they're like just take some parts out of the tie fighters like they're gonna be fine like don't worry about it just remove a couple screws like we could do
Starting point is 00:16:03 two screws on one each quarter right that's fine yeah that would be amazing if like by the end of the star wars wars like the tie fighters were flying and just like falling apart in space because they had just taken every budget cut known to man yeah basically like my toyota corolla right now that i've had since i was in high school the other day i looked at and the hubcap was off and i was just like huh i don't know when that fell off, but apparently it's gone. Yeah. When they start up the TIE Fighters,
Starting point is 00:16:31 the check engine light is always on, like 100% always on. Oh, and it's on on my Corolla always. Yep. Actually, you know what? That is one of the things that they actually did is they took out the light bulb for the check engine light. So it should be on, but the light bulb like that got cut in the budget cuts shout out to toyota corolla though i didn't realize that was about that was the bob fox uh chariot that that's the fox mobile yeah i've had
Starting point is 00:16:54 it the same car i've had since you know my mom first bought me a car we had a toyota camry back in 2001 i think we bought it and it went to me to my sister to my brother back to like whoever needed a car at the time when they're in and out of like college or whatever it may be and now we recently just gave it to my cousin who just moved back to new york and she just needs a car in the meantime and it's like man this is a toyota apparently a toyota ad we're running right now but i guess it is hey toyota oh toyota reference brought it back around to star wars there um before we move on from the tie fighters though i did want to just shout out a scene that i've gone back and rewatched on youtube from andor the tie fighter scene where
Starting point is 00:17:37 they just have one tie fighter going through the valley and you hear the scream and it's like oh shit hide all the weapons we're supposed to just be mercenaries or whatever, they're raiders. They have to put all the tarps over the weapons and shit. That was one of the best TIE fighter scenes ever, if not the best. They made it terrifying. Just one TIE fighter.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It was awesome. Yeah, I'm going to have to, I just got a new TV and like a surround sound down here in the basement. So my ears, I have to get my ears cleaned out. I have an old man who has to get his ear cleaned out every six months. I can't hear a thing. Once I get all cleaned out and feel like I have surround sound for the first
Starting point is 00:18:11 time in like years, I'm throwing on that scene and just hearing that screech going through. That was a very cool scene. I remember that was the Andor. Yeah. It was like the first three episodes too. So it was the ones that were a little bit slower, but they were starting to get off the ground with a cousin from the bear and everything that's right i am so bad
Starting point is 00:18:30 in terms of like all these star wars shows especially once they started crossing mandalorians into book of boba fett's certain scenes are just like moments i don't even remember i don't know that's because i'm old or if it is has been kind of confusing along the way with all the different crossover and shit like that. So I'm going to have to check that out. So, and, or those first three episodes,
Starting point is 00:18:50 I always thought were kind of weird. Same with, I don't really like the, the, the two or three at once, unless nothing really happens. And that must be a Gen V did that too. We got three.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Well though. Yeah. Yeah. They did it. Well, I could have, I could have honestly lived with each of those episodes individually, whereas with Andor and Ahsoka, I think
Starting point is 00:19:07 I would have started losing patience by the end of the second or third episode. WandaVision as well. I remember WandaVision, after episode two, I was like, this is going to kind of suck. But then we got out of the black and white and everything was awesome after that. Yeah, Ahsoka was a show, too, where the first three episodes
Starting point is 00:19:23 I thought were good, but it definitely they stepped on the gas episode four and then like it was just the second half of the season was way better than the first half i thought do they do they use gas what's their power source in uh yeah they step on the fuel they step on the coaxium um enoch thrones right hand guy comes in and tells them that you the TIE fighters we've lost signal with. And Thrawn's like, all right, we'll mark those down as dead and prepare for a ground assault. He immediately, again, knows the next step. They do come in on a ground assault. They ride in on those rat-type horses.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And the lasers are just being shot down from the Star Destroyer, the Chimera. Really cool scene where you just see him going off. You know, it's almost like a No Man's Land type scene. And then they all open the doors to the temple with the force. And I felt like Sabine in this moment. Sure. Later, she uses the force for real and it's proof in this moment. It's like giving your little brother the controller that's not plugged in.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And you're like, yeah, you're helping us in the video game right now i think sabine's hand was just out there and ezra and ahsoka were doing all the magic i love yeah i love that reference i do it with my kids now give him the controller that's not on and aj he doesn't he when he gets old enough to realize he's out of it also just love the uh star destroyer just i put pissing lasers that's got pissing lasers down everyone below and then we get our biggest prediction of the season coming to fruition they take out the first wave of these night troopers and then the night sisters or night mothers they do this little spell and this witch's chant and it resurrects all of them back as zombies. They have these green glowing eyes that glow through the helmets.
Starting point is 00:21:12 They looked so frigging cool and the way they were animated and they looked like such zombies. Later on, we even see one get their helmet broken and you see they have like a zombie mouth. I loved everything about this the way it was handled the way it looked visually everything about the zombie stormtroopers i'm so in on my favorite stormtroopers in years stormtroopers that actually don't die the first or second blaster is kind of nice they would be a lot scarier if that's how all of them were i don't know again the armor i think the armor is so cheap, they got it at like Dollar Tree or Dollar General, that you
Starting point is 00:21:48 shoot it and it like electrocutes them and kills them on the spot. It actually, if they wore no armor, the stormtroopers would be in better shape, it seems like. I mean, Sabine got cut a fucking lightsaber through the abdomen and she was fine. And these stormtroopers don't even get hit by the blast. It kind of just nicks them and it's like
Starting point is 00:22:03 dead. So it was kind of just like nicks them and it's like dead so it was kind of nice to see stormtroopers uh like not be instantly killed and there's something just like it's not even as much it was terrifying to see them come back to life but then it's like fuck i gotta do this whole level again and it's like you're almost hitting yeah and you're just like man how are we gonna do this and then they're just like straight up not dying. Pretty terrifying stuff. I got a little bit of the Call of Duty zombies vibe from these guys too, right? As they're fighting up the stairs too, that's like a very Call of Duty zombies. If they get in, you're like, all right, we're fucked now. We're fucked now.
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Starting point is 00:24:41 Back to Ahsoka. Thrawn tells Elspeth that they need a little bit more time while the ship is being loaded up. And I had a feeling that this was going to happen, that as soon as Thrawn got what he needed out of Morgan Elspeth, he was going to kind of throw her to the curb and be like, listen, we're going to get out of here. Maybe you stick around and make sure that these Jedi don't get on our ship.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And she's okay with it. He says for the Empire. She kind of has a moment to herself where she says for Dathomir, she's like, that's who I'm doing it for. I'm not doing it for the empire, doing it for those witches. And we get a Soka versus Elspeth to the first one happening in season two of
Starting point is 00:25:15 the Mandalorian. This time she's got that power of the shadows and she's got that new blade. Ezra and Sabine take on the death troopers. And I loved seeing the death Troopers from Rogue One. The taller Black Storm Troopers also wrapped up in the Nightsisters magic. And this is the one that gets its face completely broken, basically. And you see it trying to bite Sabine. And finally, she uses the Force.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And I gotta admit, I wasn't the most pro Sabine this season. I liked her in Rebels. I know you and Dave were very anti-Sabine this season. The moment where she actually uses the force and gets that lightsaber hilt to come into her hand. And she does the almost Kylo Ren thing that he does in The Last Jedi where she just right through the head like that. I thought it was a really satisfying moment. I was like rooting for it. I was like, come on, come on, get that lightsaber, get that lightsaber.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Might have been the tension of just the zombie about to bite her, but I thought it was handled well. Yeah. So Sabine, she like, she levels up, gets like basically is on that Jedi path. Then finally the fucking, you know, kill shot, instant Jedi, I'm'm sorry lightsaber through the head very cool i didn't she then like leveled up three other times not gonna nitpick i just that is something i didn't like but i'm not gonna go any further on it uh but it's nice when she leveled up further than this i was a little bit like whoa oh she can do that like yeah the jump yeah yeah nonetheless however we're not here to, again,
Starting point is 00:26:46 Star Wars fans being upset about something would be the first time that ever happened, right? Also, speaking of which, I loved it. It was just, it's a trope at this point when the zombie troopers are coming in, they all break the control door, the controls and the door automatically shut. I always love that thing. All you have to do in Star Wars is just break things
Starting point is 00:27:03 to make them work essentially you could press the button or just break it yeah if not if r2d2 can't fix it just break it and everything will work out perfectly for you uh the speaking r2d2 i don't mean to bring us down again but no moments from chopper this episode this whole season i know i really hyped up chopper as this maniac warlord i'm sorry about that because we didn't get anything out of chopper this season that was in my notes for the post like epilogue wrap up i wanted an assassination i didn't get it i said i needed an assassination so going into season two and i got him on screen so i'm like oh he's gonna wreck some shit now
Starting point is 00:27:42 i'm telling you i'm i'm a little concerned about my guy chopper not even about him about how he's going to be shown is it like do you think that the people at disney are like oh we can't have droids committing mass genocide because that's kind of bullshit if that's the case i hope not yeah because that's chopper's game that's you know he brought chopper into the show let him kill kill some motherfuckers. Yeah, exactly. So I'm a little, I'm very concerned about that. And if that's the case, the ceiling of Ahsoka as a show is much lower than it was going in. For me personally, I like a droid that's a badass motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:28:18 However, Hu Yang was something I didn't even know existed. And he's been better than expected. But that's still a huge gap in terms of like my thoughts on chopper to having a cool hu yang those are not equal in my opinion the other thing about the zombie trooper is in a weird way having those like sick fucks with the mouth and zombie and out kind of made the dude who just became smoke and melted away i forgot his name he's so irrelevant to me right now maric yeah maric it kind of like at least gave his death a little more meaning but that was a big bummer looking back now yeah so they finally do this big jump now where they're like we got to
Starting point is 00:28:56 get on the star destroyer it's taking off how do we get on the star destroyer and sabine uses the force in a big way here ezra does like this big force jump and then she does a force push to elevate him to double jump essentially a little mario double jump yes this was a bit much for me not in a show breaking way not in an episode breaking way just i was i could have done with a shorter jump distance or something. You know, like when she's using the force to push him, like frigging onto a skyscraper, practically, it was like, okay, we just leveled up real quick. You must've got a bunch of XP from those death troopers,
Starting point is 00:29:35 zombies that you killed. But this is something that they've done in rebels before the double jump. Ezra actually did it teaming up with Darth Maul. And he told maul about previously doing it with kanan so there there's a precedent for ezra doing it in this universe but yeah it was a it was a ridiculously big jump yeah the xp on the troopers actually kind of sold me a little bit bob as a guy who likes playing his video games that kind of did sell me i also am a big fan of force jumping in general i've always liked it like when the jedis do that however that makes and i also like ezra
Starting point is 00:30:09 that being said if ezra did this move look down and then just straight up plummeted and died like wily coyote with a little puff of like you know dirt at the end it would have been hilarious it would have cracked me up and it honestly would have been the highlight of the season for me even though i would have lost a character that seems like he's pretty cool it would have just been so fucking funny just an aim for the bushes other guys moment so sabine goes back for ahsoka she's like thinking about doing the jump and having ezra pull her up but she says no she goes back for her master who yang didn't want them to split up in the first place that put him in trouble so she goes back they start fighting elspeth together and this is badass elspeth destroys one of ahsoka's lightsabers ahsoka pulls this move where she pulls the blade and her lightsaber and kills her with her own blade
Starting point is 00:31:01 it was so cool so badass to see the two like lightsaber marks as well oh and even prior to that ezra cutting one of the death troopers heads off and the way they shot that where you couldn't totally see it but then you just saw the head roll and the neck had like that orange glow that was pretty metal yeah that was i think that was them trying to get past the disney censors or like listen we want to chop a head off. This is Star Wars. You can't do that. This is Star Wars. You can't fucking do that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 All right. How about if we just put them behind a column and you kind of don't see it and it has the post lightsaber glow to it. Oh, okay. You fucking assholes. You can fucking do that. So that's, I'm fighting a call that can't do my Mickey Mouse as well. It's a sick Mickey.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah. It's a sick Mickey. Yeah. He was out doing coke all night till four in the morning. So that's why he's not feeling good. He has the drip going on in his throat. So I appreciate, I did appreciate that as well. That was pretty metal.
Starting point is 00:31:55 But what we, so, so we had the, the, that, the store, the, the storm troopers fighting. What was the other? Oh, okay. So we see the sword in action now. The blade of Taliesin. Blade of Taliesin. Hate to say it. That witch sword, that was, we have a lightsaber at home.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And it kind of felt like she was, like Morgan needs all the help you can get when you're facing a Jedi with two fucking lightsabers. You kind of have the Walmart version of a lightsaber. I knew she was cooked. Yeah. the Walmart version of a lightsaber. I knew she was cooked. She, she, she fought her the foot. The first time she fought Ahsoka, she had the, the man, like a big staff,
Starting point is 00:32:30 right? Was that the thing that Mando got? Was that, I think so. I think she like, yeah, it was the best guard, like staff or whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:32:37 So she fought Ahsoka both times as the underdog. And it's like, it was basically two head coaches going. It was belichick versus like pick another fucking good coach uh andy reed but one of them has the 2007 patriots and the other one has the 2023 giants like it was just a blow i listen i can make fun of my giants right now i could do it like it just wasn't fair this girl morgan man she really got fucked and i guess it's the witch's fault they they could have even given her some crazier powers or like i don't i guess there's no crystals there to give her like a sith lightsaber
Starting point is 00:33:10 but i just wish she had more of a fair fight because she lost both those fights but morgan stands are going to be like listen this girl went into battle she was fucked before she even got in there and she looks like sherry o'terry. She looks like Sherry O'Terry. The witches knew when she died, too. They could sense it almost like the Force. It didn't seem like they cared much, though. Elspeth is dead. And they're like, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It is what it is. We figured. We left her there. And Sabine and Ahsoka try to make it onto the ship, but they're not fast enough. So Thrawn delivers one final message to Ahsoka, where he's like, I'm sorry we didn't get to meet face to face at this rate I'm starting to think we're never going to meet face to face and long live the empire essentially he he actually throws a dig too he threw his mannequin
Starting point is 00:33:54 Skywalker dig he's like I didn't underestimate you because I knew who your master was but I really wonder how many similarities you have towards your master kind of referencing is he going to try to pull her to the dark side a little anakin or a little vader uh luke thing there i'm not sure gives a long live the empire they depart and ahsoka and sabine just have to return to the uh the new t the noti the uh yeah the village they go back to that little trailer park. Space turtles, Bob. Space turtles. Space turtles. Ahsoka sees her owl, Morai. And this is a complicated thing from the Clone Wars. So we're going to get into the Mortis gods at some point. The Mortis gods are the gods of the Force.
Starting point is 00:34:38 There's the father, the son, and the daughter. The son controls the dark side of the Force. The daughter controls the light side of the force. The daughter controls the light side of the force. The father keeps them balanced. At one point, the daughter gave up her life force to save Ahsoka's life. So her life force was kind of transferred into Ahsoka, almost Kylo Ren Rey-esque in Rise of Skywalker. The force essence was also transferred into this owl mori so whenever ahsoka sees the owl it's something that she has a very nice connection with she saw it in the world between worlds she
Starting point is 00:35:13 saw it in the clone wars finale you see this owl pop up a lot with ahsoka so seeing the owl was a nice little nod to that clone wars fans were going crazy for the owl i'm sure you were just like oh nice and now i like owls i you know i'm a big bird of prey guy and owls are low-key bad motherfuckers when they want to be so i was like oh a nice little owl there very happy to know there was a lot more uh that was going on in that scene because it really went over my head and i was kind of underwhelmed so and again the again, the fellow non-Rebels watchers, I imagine we're all in the same boat as I was. Well, I hope I just explained it for everybody there.
Starting point is 00:35:50 The magical, of course. Of course, the magical. Shin goes and we see her join up with the Raiders. And I'm wondering if this is going to be the start of a face turn for Shin. We didn't see much to suggest it in season one, but we saw Boba fett go hang with the tuscan raiders for a little bit and he learned a little bit about family became a good guy after that so i'm wondering if shin is going to follow the same path and almost become the mara jade of
Starting point is 00:36:16 this story mara jade in the original heir to the empire was a bad i think think a bad Jedi who turned good and fell in love with Luke. Maybe Shin is Luke's future love interest. Maybe. If she turns good. I actually, a different Skywalker I was thinking of. I saw her go on there and I kind of associated these guys as like that world's Tusken Raiders. And I thought lightsaber comes out and just slaughter house. I thought she was going to slaughter them all. But hey, she could become their leader and like their their mother figure too i think she might
Starting point is 00:36:48 i think she might while her former master balon is off with statues of the mortis gods so he's standing literally it's a cliffhanger because he's standing on the edge of a cliff of the father who's holding him so he looks like a wizard know, it looks like a traditional wizard with the big starry hat. The son is next to him, a statue of the son and the daughter's statue is crumbled, leaving some to believe this role is yet to be filled. And Ahsoka will one day become the daughter. So I don't know if they want someone to become the son as well,
Starting point is 00:37:24 or if the son is going to stay the son, the father's going to stay the father and Ahsoka is going to become the daughter. So I don't know if they want someone to become the son as well, or if the son is going to stay the son, the father's going to stay the father and Ahsoka is going to become the daughter one day. That's how she becomes one of the force. I'm not sure. I could also see a future in which Balon becomes the son or something like there. A Anakin becomes the son.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I'm not sure. Originally we talked about the Morris gods. We just talked about them a little bit on this show and i said i don't think they're going to go there though turn an anakin into the father and all that at this point seeing the statues seeing the owl i do think they're going to go there at some point in season two they're going to really dig deep into the the mortis gods and whatnot so i think anything's on the table i'm surprised that they're going there, but so far I'm okay with it. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:06 this stuff again, way above my head. I knew of these gods and how it was a thing. And as you just explained it there, now it makes perfect sense. Soca, she's marooned. I'm going to use marooned as a word.
Starting point is 00:38:17 How do you think about that? She's kind of just stuck in this spot. Balon is obviously looking to get something done. Cause he's just chilling on the cliff for the cliffhanger which again perfect fucking imagery right there just it's like the fucking rat climbing on the uh departed right in front of the balcony in front of the capital building or whatever it is uh and like it has to happen Ahsoka has to either rebuild it or the the daughter becomes her likeness or whatever it may be and balon was like the perfect father in
Starting point is 00:38:45 terms of he was kind of both sides i thought he was that perfect gray that i thought was going to be a big part of the sequel trilogy turns out not so much and it just it really does like i i was more bummed than anything that a we didn't just we didn't get like a i was waiting for the big moment of this episode to be the oh fuck which I guess is thrown returning to that other galaxy. But I was hoping a bailout moment was going to happen and we could kind of wrap up. Cause the way now it's going to have to be a little clunky without the actor who absolutely crushed.
Starting point is 00:39:15 They got so fucked by this actor dying. Cause he was easily my favorite character of the series so far. Yeah. He was incredible. His presence in every scene was just, he had that gravitas about it was awesome is is there a chance bob okay hear me out on this one he said ahsoka's the daughter right yeah anakin becomes the son or vader i guess right could you say could vader or not vader could anakin become the father because ahsoka is obviously his daughter he like anakin and vader becoming different things anakin and vader become
Starting point is 00:39:51 different things or vader does not become the son ahsoka becomes the daughter which i think makes sense and it can becomes the father who he did was her master right yeah and then the sun becomes it could be balin could be could be could it could it be uh ben kenobi because that's technically his bloodline right because it's leia's child so i'm trying to think maybe you know i'm saying down the road kylo ren becomes the sun this all probably doesn't make any sense at the time i think it would be cool speaking of kylo ren now we're going all over the place, but speaking of Kylo Ren, if Jason grew up to be a knight of Ren.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yes. I, we talked about the Knights of Ren last episode. And I don't know if I said that. I didn't know if the timelines matched up for that as well, but I agree. I think that that could be very cool. At least give us a little bit about the Knights of Ren,
Starting point is 00:40:40 even in rise of Skywalker. We were like, all right, Snoke is gone. So we got to get something about the Knights of Ren. And no, they just once again stood there looking cool. And they nailed that. They look cool.
Starting point is 00:40:50 But give us something. Give us just a little get a little breadcrumb about the Knights of Ren. Look cool. Cool name. But did nothing cool. Like they could have honestly. The story of Captain Phasma. The story like hopefully Enoch doesn't fall down the same path because he's the next one.
Starting point is 00:41:08 You know what? Enoch was kind of just a little bitch errand boy. Now that you mention it. He definitely was. He looked cool. He didn't do much, though. Yeah, he just updated Thrawn on what was going on. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah, they have to fix this. They have to. But I will say, like, I do trust the Filoni. He's much more trusted than the 5e right now and the way everything is connecting in the star wars universe right now is pretty nice like connecting to the clone wars connecting to the cartoons it is something that marvel is currently lacking we another thing we talked about last week is is so now we don't know about a season two of ahsoka right that hasn't been announced or there's nothing about that, right?
Starting point is 00:41:46 But we do have a Filoni movie trilogy announced or is it just a movie? Possible trilogy. I'm not sure if that's confirmed, but that's the word on the street on the interwebs. But that doesn't have a date or anything beyond it either. So I'm not sure if they want to do like a movie next Or if they want to do like another season of Mando and Ahsoka and then a movie Which would make more sense It's this timeline
Starting point is 00:42:10 So it'll probably have Thrawn and Ahsoka Mando, Baby Yo, all that kind of stuff Also we're getting The Acolyte and Skeleton Crew in between But Skeleton Crew That might connect because I think the pirate from mando is in skeleton crew but the acolyte takes place like a thousand years before phantom menace so i'm not
Starting point is 00:42:31 sure if that will connect at all andor i assume will only be connected through mon mothma being a character in both because we know andor's fate he's gonna die he's not gonna have a darth maul resurrection i don't think he was blunt to smithereens cooked but back to the ending of ahsoka thrawn is bringing the night mothers and their cargo to dathomir so it looks like they're maybe trying to restart their society ezra returns to hera and he returns on a imperial ship with the whole outfit on dude take the helmet off when you get on the ship he just he was really dragging it out for dramatic effect he was walking down with a stormtrooper helmet on and then did a big reveal bro they have guns drawn it you just take it off take the helmet off what was he
Starting point is 00:43:16 thinking you get your ass blasted in space then when you get off yeah blast your ass like yeah that that was all very weird and i think like a little more effect would be to be open the door and you come out with the helmet oh azra what's up man it's like instead of just scaring the shit out of them they're like oh it says there and it's like wait are you a stormtrooper now did like they fucking flip you over there because it's happened before up orient it can flip so it could happen to you as well imagine that if like like a jedi flipped and he's like no no i just want to be a storm trooper i don't want to be like a sith lord or anything like that i'm very good just by being on
Starting point is 00:43:49 the front lines and just being a common man yeah bring my lunch bell to work every day yeah and let's call it what it was this might be the last time we saw it but we saw a dumper came on screen yet again i'm telling you i'm guaranteeing somebody in a meeting next, if there is another Ahsoka, or the next time Hera's just in a fucking piece of Star Wars content, they're going to be like, we can't just keep shooting her from behind because we've heard it from the replies and the comments and everything. Everyone was thinking the same goddamn thing. We're just the ones who are random.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I heard it from people this weekend. Really? People came up to me this weekend at the festival, Ocean's Calling, that Pop Punk played, and they were like, by the way, Hera's packing that dumper and i was like um and then sabine senses something and ahsoka's like what do you sense she's like nothing i thought it was something and ahsoka looks out i think she was sensing something out there it was a force ghost of anakin who just looks on with a smile i think the force ghost looks great the effect that they put on it looks really good and it was a cool ending to the season we wanted to see anakin as a force ghost and we got at least a little introduction almost like the end of obi-wan where we see quaguan as a force
Starting point is 00:44:55 ghost quaguan see what i said there's i appreciate um it's kind of i think setting up anakin to be a force ghost guide in the next season i'm hoping at least I'd like to see him as that. So I thought it was a good ending to the season. I would have liked just more of a new Republic death and Thrawn looking happy over it. I would have liked more of a sinister ending. I would have liked a little more protein in my burrito bowl, if you may. Like, give me a little more meat a little less of the you know other stuff but all and all trust me i know it can be worse i've seen some star wars i know
Starting point is 00:45:31 it can be worse i know it can be better as well so i think i i'm sure we'll rank where we sort all these on the scale but that i'm with you on that for sure all right before we get into those rankings let's tell everyone about Celebrity Mint, a new sponsor for My Mom's Basement that we had for just a couple of weeks now. Celebrity Mint is the first venture of its kind offering the world's first ever precious metal legal tender collectible cards featuring sports luminaries and influential figures and bringing to market unique memorabilia with intrinsic value as a bonus. Celebrity Mint fuses sports collectibles with the prestige of coin collecting to bring a new generation of collectors to the table, offering collectors the chance to start or
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Starting point is 00:47:19 Rick flair. Now let's get into some rankings here. I saw a lot of tweets say rank the star wars live action shows so i tweeted we'll do this we'll do it live on my mama's basement the show is being the mandalorian the book of boba fett andor obi-wan kenobi and ahsoka i think i speak for both of us when i say the The Mandalorian would be number one. It was the show that brought the fandom back together after the sequel trilogy, where as soon as we saw that adorable baby yo face at the end of episode one, we were we were back together. The people that hated The Last Jedi, the people that loved it.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And yes, there have been some episodes like the Lizzo one or the Bobby Carnivali Sun one that I didn't enjoy. But I think for the most part, the Mandalorian is some of the best Star Wars we've ever gotten. Cosign, the highs have been extremely high. The lows have really not been that low. And has Baby Yoda won? Yeah, come on. Introduce Baby Yoda to the galaxy yeah and i because i know what two is and we fucking love two but i just it's also like this has also longevity with
Starting point is 00:48:34 multiple seasons even just the the sound you know and there have been some some fun good moments especially without the it was just quote unquote you heard a million times spaghetti western where the first few seasons did have so many just individual things but now that they're really growing and expanding it this i'm going to just say i think mando might have saved the star wars universe because think about where star wars star wars was before that came out and man it was some some fucking dark times dude it was dark times now dude. It was dark times. Now, next, I would go Andor. Would you agree with that? A hundred percent. And it's almost easier to tier these than rank them,
Starting point is 00:49:12 because I think this should be tier one with Mando. I think it's in the same tier. It is Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. Justin, I'm going to do my sports one. Mando, Jefferson had that extra season. He has some of the bigger numbers. And in this case, it's Baby Yoda. But Andor, Jamar Chase, fucking same college, right behind him.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Awesome. Pound for pound. It's like Baby Yoda's number one because he's so fucking cute and he's just so awesome. But some of the characters in Andor I might have above Mando because, again, Mandoo loki stinks at fighting he uh he like he's not pedro pascal to me because he never has his mask off like you guys are think i'm crazy for that i see him as oberyn and i see him as uh last of us uh what's his name in last joel uh so i see him as those guys before mando because for all i know he's not even in the suit so because of that and or uh who's the dude we love luthen the fucking yeah i have good i dance with
Starting point is 00:50:11 ghosts and nightmares or whatever great lines mon mothma's crushing it so i'm i'm with you and andrew's bullet for you right yeah it's i i think it might even be able to be called the best made star wars show like if you were to say i like it might be the one i recommend the most to a non-star wars fan even where i'm like mandalorian is a little you know you get a little goofy you get a little taste of everything in the star wars universe but this is just like a legitimately great gritty spy espionage show that is feels like it's made more for adults than anyone else you know what i would almost say you can't say because they're both tv shows mando is like a movie and or is like a film right yeah those can mean the same things but they're completely different in my mind yes and
Starting point is 00:50:53 i still prefer mando like mando the baby yoda stuff that is like peak star wars for me but andor is just like like you said it's cinema it is fucking like it feels real. So and or and then I would put Ahsoka right after it. I think Ahsoka is so good. This one season of Ahsoka that I would put it up there with like a really good season of The Mandalorian. I thought the way that they really, like I said, stepped on the coaxium in episode four and really just revved it up and made the world building what it needed to be made Thrawn I think an exciting villain in being someone that really didn't do much like he didn't have anything to do but he was still imposing and he still had his presence felt on this series so I'd put Ahsoka there would you so I have Ahsoka 3 as well yeah I this is odd though it's kind of
Starting point is 00:51:44 weird to do it but I almost have it as tier three and well. Yeah. This is odd though. It's kind of weird to do it, but I almost have it as tier three and there's nothing in tier two where I think, I think there could be a show better than Ahsoka, but not as good as Andor. And I think there's like a whole range of that, but, and this is also someone that is coming in without all the rebels
Starting point is 00:51:59 background. So a lot of this stuff was probably lost on me. And I, again, I imagine a lot of other people as well. So I do think tier three, probably in its own with the other two being below it but i think it's clearly number three because it didn't have the low points that these other two had yeah and then the other two are boba fett and obi-wan and it's tough to rank one over the other for me because
Starting point is 00:52:22 if we're tiering them i would put them in the exact same tier i feel the same way about both where did i think they were overall bad shows no i think there was a lot of good in there but there was also a lot of filler in each that was so unnecessary and i think both might have been better off if they were a movie or a disney plus special feature in some way now if i look at the peaks of each obi-wan had that awesome vader fight at the end and he also had that great vader scene where he's snapping necks and shit in front of kids boba fett had two amazing mandalorian episodes hidden in it it's the magazine inside of the book like we said i, I would go Boba Fett over Obi-Wan simply because of those Mandalorian episodes.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I think that's the only thing that gives it the edge. Otherwise I would say they're about the same, but I would go Boba Fett, then Obi-Wan. I'm with you too. I have Boba Fett for Obi-Wan five. And again, this might even be,
Starting point is 00:53:21 these could probably even be tier five shows. Cause I do think there could be shows that are worse than Ahsoka, but better than them as a whole, you know? And I'm not saying that's like bottom tier, but just out of what we had so far, Book of Boba Fett was saved by the magazines of Mandalorian. Those two episodes were awesome. I do think there's a chance if you take those away,
Starting point is 00:53:38 which is unfair to do, you could say Book of Boba Fett was worse because we had higher expectations when they did the throne room at the end of Mandalorian. And you see them in there. You're like, Oh, that is so fucking bad as they had so much as goodwill and potential story just baked into it.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And they just kind of just wrap. And the what's it called? The spy kid stuff was just weird. It was just weird. But Obi-Wan also had the Leia chase scene, stuff was just weird it was just weird but obi-wan also had the leia chase scene which was just weird so that's like hiding in the coat yeah three kids yeah so like they each had some scenes where it was like i wish that wasn't in it yeah they almost are better to exist because then if you criticize ahsoka at all, you're like, it could be worse, guys. And again, if you just take out those Mandalorian things, I think we would have lost our – I think I would have lost my –
Starting point is 00:54:33 I mean, they lived in the Flashback to Tank for like fucking three fucking years. And they just like – they showed us how badass Boba Fett could be in the Mandalorian. And then they set him up to be like a warlord. They're like, boba fett is going to be a gangster warlord running tatooine and i was like that sounds amazing and then they made him a cop which was a weird so weirdest he was like the mayor but he wanted everyone to follow the laws and the rules and it's like but you're boba fett what what are you talking about and they had some good moments like when he when he killed everyone at toshi station when he fucking killed the people that uh took the slave one from him right or when he killed them with the slave one the biker gang when he got out of the sarlacc that was crazy
Starting point is 00:55:14 it's like it had it had moments when he rides the rancor that was cool but yeah it just had a little bit of an aftertaste that you're like hmm don, don't love the taste that left in my mouth, but it was all right. And again, if that's, hopefully that is, these are the two worst shows we see in Star Wars. It'd be like,
Starting point is 00:55:31 they were still trying to figure out their footing and all that kind of stuff, which I think is fair. I mean, it's like, you can criticize it all you want, but it's also like, they're trying to figure it out just as much as we're figuring out
Starting point is 00:55:42 getting, and listen, not being at three in the morning. Good. I like it. Good idea. Shout out to us for fixing all that. It's just crazy. As I was watching it last night or right before I watched it, I just thought,
Starting point is 00:55:51 I was like, how the fuck did they honestly think this was ever going to be a good idea? And there was no hype around it. No one could go on at 10 p.m. and be like, holy shit, this just happened. That's the other thing. I knew this Ahsoka. I knew I wasn't alone in being a little underwhelmed or just not enough happened and i didn't miss it because usually you just get the replies right it's like holy shit this was awesome people were like telling me they were
Starting point is 00:56:14 crying during uh one of the episodes a couple episodes ago and ahsoka just seeing all this shit brought to the screen we did not get that uh and book of boba fett and obi-wan definitely did not do either of those as well but they did have their highlights they had their moments especially the vader shit was very cool i'm gonna be like go back and listen to those podcasts be like we were just trying to make everything you know chicken salad out of chicken shit this also has to be said about these star wars shows and the marvel shows that have already been on we've talked about in the past and i'm saying over time and it's hammered home with Gen V, which we will do some sort of stuff with at some point.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Gen V, the boys. Every single episode stands alone, is entertaining, with a beginning, a middle, and an end, and it continues on to the next episode. It is so fucking good, and it really does make me upset that Star Wars and Marvel has not figured out
Starting point is 00:57:04 how to just emulate this formula and i know it's like you can get away with more with gen v because you're not beholden to these same massive universes and i know you can go like r-rated because you don't have mickey mouse fucking in charge of everything but i can watch any episode of the boys and be entertained if i watched like episode three of obi-wan there's a chance i want to like fucking shoot myself with a blaster in the head right yeah yeah you're right i mean they definitely could put together better standalone episodes so many of the episodes felt like setups in not just in ahsoka in any of the star wars shows feel like oh this was just to get us to next week the boys and gen v especially they'd never really feel like that you never get a setup every episode is just its own unique story and i think they
Starting point is 00:57:50 could definitely do a better job of that hopefully skeleton crew and the acolyte did a better job of better and or season two i think and or season two is filmed i've been getting tweeted like a blurry trailer someone took a video of the trailer at Star Wars Celebration. It's been getting out there. But yeah, that was the Ahsoka finale review. Now, as we record this on Wednesday, this will be release day. Tomorrow is when Loki Season 2 comes out. Tomorrow at
Starting point is 00:58:16 9 p.m. So maybe on Friday we'll hop back in the basement and record something for that. Hopefully that is as good as Season 1 was. The early word is that it's very good we've seen our guy heavy spoilers i've seen a couple tweets where people have been like season two picks up right where season one left off fingers crossed that that's true because remember season two left off or season one left off and that was like the best episode we were so
Starting point is 00:58:40 high fucking jonathan major's career was in our life was in a much different place Much different Loki I think I think it's most people's one or two I think everyone has it by in the tier one of Marvel Shows and it's one or two depending on WandaVision I think WandaVision peaked a little early Where Loki peaked late which you're more Used to and also I will say this
Starting point is 00:59:00 About those Star Wars shows like There is like There is a chance they can get better. And if they have set up episodes, I'm 100% fine with it. If by the end of the season, I'm like, holy shit, that show was awesome. I think Andor kind of had that, and we were still fine with it, right? But they have to do a better job of, like, if you have to just kind of lead me on, you have to make it worth the final product.
Starting point is 00:59:24 So hopefully we get that with uh the future star wars shows i think loki is going to be much more mando and or level stuff where it's a lot of hits and not a lot of misses hopefully and before we end this podcast i do want to thank all of the basement boys and girls that came out to ocean's calling because a couple people came up to me and were like love my mom's basement love that it was the festival of a lifetime I told you like it went as good as I felt like it could have gone we did not have Frankie that was a shame but my best friend growing up Dom filled in who played drums in my pop punk band so that was like a full circle moment for us we played a set to like it felt like two or three thousand people when we walked out there and maybe three or four thousand by the time we ended like people just kept walking over to the stage midway through the set look over side stage
Starting point is 01:00:14 jason biggs is rocking the fuck out like standing right next to me afterwards he came up to us like dapping us up being like that was incredible chef robert irvine from the food network was there doing shit so he was hanging out with us being like that was incredible we were meeting people from bands we love we saw the list of bands i literally wrote it down because i was like i never want to forget the bands that i saw in this order this was so friday night we show up we watched third eye blind delannis morissette and OAR that's our Friday that's just the appetizer Saturday we play and then we go see Mike Campbell and the Dirty Knobs Mike Campbell being Tom Petty's former guitar player uh then then the Gin Blossoms delightful band Sheryl Crow absolute rock star set Dispatch who when they do the general that crowd is just absolutely a party an absolute party
Starting point is 01:01:07 jimmy eat world from side stage in the tent which was like jimmy world one of my all-time favorite bands they're one of the all-time great pop punk bands especially they rocked the fucking house and then incubus who i'm now a much bigger fan of than i even was going into the festival they've been all i've been listening to since Ocean's Calling. They put on one of the best rock shows I've ever seen. And then John Mayer headlined with just himself and an acoustic guitar. No band, no nothing, just John Mayer, acoustic guitar. At one point he was playing piano.
Starting point is 01:01:38 He was looping it. He was shredding on an electric. It was a 10 out of 10 festival. Thank you, Mark Roberge and the oar guys for putting it on and for inviting us to be a part of it not only inviting us to be a part of it but they came to us right before we went on and just like thanked us and thanked us thank you so much for agreeing to do it pft was like listen i'm gonna let you convince us that we're doing you a favor and not the other way around here because this is the best thing ever so thank you to everyone that came out it was like it was dream come true kind of shit that was awesome that
Starting point is 01:02:09 entire like i was so bummed like i had a busy weekend i went to barcelona ballpark on saturday um and we were just jammed up so i couldn't do anything on friday obviously sunday's football so i'm working i that's that whole like festival was so awesome i've heard a lot of live which by the way i didn't realize that was a robbie fox number one have to see in person so that were three years yeah and she was my favorite set of the weekend she was we were literally for half of her set standing side stage and watching alanis morissette command the stage like she does and then we're like all right the sound wasn't great and there was also like this bald guy next to us that wouldn't stop singing at the top of his lungs where we could hear him more than Alanis we go out to the front and we realize our artist passes me and my friend Dom allow us to be
Starting point is 01:02:55 in between the barricade and the stage so we're like not only front row we're above the front row and we're the only two at one point singing in that area we're going crazy and she came right over to us and starts pointing to us fucking singing in our grill it was i mean it was like we it was i felt like we were in a movie for real you lived a dream dominant the dominator by the way what a fucking incredible just break of his life he gets to like live that moment that in itself is like i can't believe this happened and then he gets to play on stage in front of thousands of people because the whole stuff with frankie broke his way i mean jesus christ man i'm you know what i'm doing it dom
Starting point is 01:03:33 bass and boy of the of the episode he's getting it yeah yeah and it's like hey if you'll be uh if you'll be at pop punk's next show in knoxville tennessee on october 13th you'll also see dom there because frankie will still be on his honeymoon so dom is now the and dom is kind of the original pop punk drummer in a way he was the drummer on back to school we actually sent that track to him back in jersey and had him record a drum track for us and that's the one that got used so dom's kind of the original pop punk drummer poor fucking smitty smitty's just completely wiped out like i thought he was the original drummer i thought he was the backup drummer frankie goes down nope dom smitty was in the music video but dom was the one that actually
Starting point is 01:04:15 played that's oh man shout out dom crazy shake of things and again thank you to mark roberts nicest guy in the world called me the day after the festival just to tell us we crushed it and shit. Like, couldn't be a nicer guy. And he couldn't have had a better set on Friday night either. Everyone kind of knew that OAR put the festival on and it's a Maryland crowd. So they were, I mean, he was the Pope driving around in his golf cart this weekend. Like, people were worshiping them when they were on stage. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I'm already looking up Alan uh shows for next year here see and that would be a good basement boys meet up we'll just see westbury new york red bank new jersey newport rhode island so she the only thing she really has is an east coast in july so we are going to have to get there robbie me i love it and shout out all the basement boys and girls. And, dude, you know, you're the same way. We have our hands on a lot of different things. You know, you have the UFC. You have this. You have just so many.
Starting point is 01:05:14 You have so many different things. And me, same thing. You know, I have my sports teams. I have this. I have, you know, pod fathers. I always just love when someone says they're a basement boy or girl. It just warms my heart. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:25 It is one of those things. So number one thing I got all weekend. Wasn't like, I'm excited for pop punk or you guys are, you know, funny band. It was, you want to talk to Soka?
Starting point is 01:05:35 People were just like, what do you think about a Soka? What do you think about next week? And it's like such an amazing way to just instantly be friends with people. Cause like they know you have a common interest so they ask you about it and we're instantly like in a deep conversation about mortis over high noons yeah exactly you know great i love it it's great and i can't wait for the next pop punk show again it's going to be the university of tennessee october 13th another bojangles
Starting point is 01:06:00 parking lot show we're returning to the bojang. I imagine that'll be college is a college football show doing it there as well. And it's going to be, I think so. Yeah. Cause I think the Boston with the boys guys are for sure going to be there. So it's part of the bus and tour.
Starting point is 01:06:13 We're going to be playing a much longer set. We'll be playing for over an hour on that show. So make sure you come out to a world. We'll have all the details out soon and come back to the basement later this week for our uh loki season two episode one review i can't wait for that let's go

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