My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 306 - LOKI SEASON 2 PREMIERE WITH CLEM AND GIA

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Robbie, Clem, and Gia break down the Loki Season 2 premiere, which hit the ground running and picked up right where Season 1 left off! We go back to the TVA and reconnect with Tom Hiddleston/Owen Wilson's Mobius, meet Ouroboros (played by Ke Huy Quan), and feel the threat of Kang looming over the universe as much as ever! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! #Loki #Marvel #MarvelStudios ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3Chi, and the very first low-key Season 2 episode of My Mom's Basement. Of course, I am joined by my co-host Clem, and for the first time ever, Gia makes her debut in the basement. And it's very appropriate, because Gia is a Marvel super fan. She told me as soon as she became content this year,

if you guys are ever doing Marvel talk, I want in. And I said, we got to get you in for Loki season one. So Gia, welcome to the basement. Thank you, Robbie. I'm very excited. And Clem, thank you guys so much for having me. I'm super excited to talk about Loki today. I'm stoked.

Friends, Fran is your sister. Chicks in the office. Chicks in the basement. We got chicks in the basement, bub. Everyone be cool. Everyone be cool. No, we usually don't have chicks in the basement, but this is a special occasion. And you've been a Marvel super fan for forever.

Since literally forever. I mean, some of my earliest memories is going to see Iron Man in theaters like with my dad and stuff so i've i've loved marvel i mean the past phase four hasn't been my favorite but um i'm still holding out i'm still going strong so and your whole family really like over the years you your brother and fran all of you guys i've talked about marvel with so you guys are deep yeah yeah we're very much into it. I mean, I've seen every midnight showing of every movie I've seen with either Francesco or my brother or my dad or someone in my family. One of us. One of us.

One of us. I agree with what you said about phase four. Now, I have been probably more positive than most on a lot of the movies and shows in the phase. But still, when you look back at the last phase, not a lot of the movies and shows in the phase. But still, when you look back at the last phase, not a lot of connectivity between shows and not a lot of things really interlocking. But Loki, I thought season one was very much a highlight of all of this. Like it feels like almost a different level of quality. Season two pretty much hit the ground running.

Yeah. It was, I mean, compared to what we've seen so far with marvel tv shows at least it just it's beyond anything i mean i always thought wandavision was really good and hawkeye was decent but this just i mean captain america and the falcon was fucking awful thank you for saying it i liked it but yeah i understand. Not everyone's a big cap guy. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I love how it took place, how it started right where we left off. And like, you didn't even have a second to breathe starting from the first scene. And I appreciated that because I feel like so many of these shows have had such slow starts.

So I like that. It's just like, let's go. That's true. Clem, what did you think? Just broad thoughts on the season two premiere? Yeah, so the previously on- Oh, I shouldn't say broad thoughts. We have a woman in the basement.

I shouldn't say broad. That's not- The previously on, you know, I don't do that during the season because I think it kind of gives away if they, like, oh, that character we haven't seen in six episodes is in there. They're coming back. But I needed that previously on for the previous season.

I didn't do my rewatch. I didn't do like even a little like refresher or whatever it may be. So, man, we went through a fucking lot in that first season. And I think we're going to be getting into this season stuff we saw today that reddit hasn't already somehow they try to connect the dots on how everything's going to work we'll be coming back to sevens to be like it was all there right in front of our face my biggest gripe is we can't keep listen we i love the nine o'clock releases very very happy about that we can't be doing thursday nights anymore this is nfl season we can't be having thursday Loki with Thursday night football. And actually, actually I take it back.

I am changing my mind mid sentence. Cause I realized, Oh yeah, I can't believe I'm, I'm, I'm taking my take Thursday night football is the worst thing to watch when you're watching it on the big TV with sound. It's perfect as the little screen and just the awful football. You don't really have to pay attention to it. So I got Loki in the big screen. I got the sound, everything's going there. And it's like, oh, there's an NFL game going on over there. And let's, let's be honest, Rob, Commander's guy, Giants fan, not too good. We have an Eagles fan here. They usually, they had fun on Thursday night, a couple of weeks ago, it was the Vikings. We don't have fun on Thursday nights. No, I was going to say I needed Loki to distract me from last night's

Commander's performance. It was horrendous. Horrific. It's the worst thing I've ever seen. I do take it back. Do we know? Is it going? I thought this was going to be a Friday thing. I thought it was going to be a Tuesday thing. Ahsoka's done.

So Tuesdays are open. Do we know what's going on in the future here? I thought it was going to be Friday, but I don't really know. I think it was initially, but then they moved it to the like 6 p.m. California time, 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time time i think that pushed it from friday to thursday how did disney like disney's just made all their money and they don't have anyone with a brain in charge of anything these 3 a.m things were the dumbest

things looking back and none of us who are all diehard marvel fans know when this show is actually that's a terrible job by them right And it snuck up on us too. It being the same week as Ahsoka probably had something to do with it. But this was like out of nowhere. It was like, oh, Loki's back. Nick Hamilton, who's a huge Marvel fan, texted me and was like, wait, what the fuck? It's Loki day?

I had no idea. And I don't even think they've done a bad job marketing it because I've seen commercials and ads on cabs and stuff. But it did just come out of nowhere. Yeah, just boom. It's like Loki coming out of that timeline. Like he just appeared. It's like, oh shit, you're here now.

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i hit my pen so i was a little a little high shout out three g yes shout out three g and i um watched season one episode one and i didn't realize for like the first like four minutes i was like oh this is nice like they're giving us some like background like i do kind of forget what happened and then about five minutes in i was like oh no I'm just straight up watching the first episode all over again so that's where I was mentally and yeah then I was like okay here we go now we're really getting into it no it was a lot though like Clem said with the previously on like it brought us through so much where I was like oh fuck usually I feel like I have a good brain and I'm reminding Clem this happened that happened I forgot I was like Ravonna Renslayer I forgot that name existed

What the fuck happened to that lady So yeah we have a lot to get into We start on a huge Kang statue The Kang statue that we ended the last season on And now when we ended the last season It seemed like Mobius doesn't know who Loki is So we must be in a different timeline Multiverse whatever it may be

Universe it doesn't appear that It just seems like we're be in a different timeline multiverse whatever it may be universe it doesn't appear that it just seems like we're earlier on the current timeline so he went back in time slipped out of time somehow he's running from the tva trying to get through to mobius and then he jumps into a ship kind of like anakin and attack of the clones episode two yeah prequel vibes totally they crash right back into the tva create a huge crack on the floor because the TV falls. And then he tries to get through to Casey. And I forgot about Casey, too, how much I loved this guy when he's like, I'm going to gut you like a fish if you don't give me this. He was like, what's a fish?

Such a funny little character. And then he glitches back, meets up with Casey in the real world where Casey, like, knows who he is. So they kind of realize what's happening. We're going back and forth now. And then we get the title screen. Awesome way to, like Gia said, like you literally don't have a second to breathe from this time this show starts. Just an awesome way to kick things off.

And I should note Michael Waldron, friend of the program, wrote a lot of last season. He's not as involved on this season. He oversaw the whole thing. But now Ericon is the main writer who fun fact is also a friend of the basement we tweet sometimes so i tweeted him last night i said what a great premiere and he was like shout out you haven't seen anything yet basically is it also a new director for this season it's a it's a it's a woman right it was last season too i think her name was kateron last season, and she was tremendous, but I thought the direction

in this episode was maybe even better, because a lot of it is just they're in the TVA having conversations, but it's shot like it's an action movie or something. The way they're going back and forth and following Loki and Mobius through the hallways and stuff, it was very kinetic.

I feel like we liked the music in last season loki am i right on that is that the big time there's so many disney plus shows i don't know which one was the one we're like that music was awesome loki was the one it was definitely loki and the mysterious vibes and then like even the episode with richard grant in the void where he's like taking on the smoke monster had like epic vibes it was awesome yeah uh so i didn't hit the pen like gia and you kind of already alluded to this bob i have the shittiest brain on the panel because i'm the oldest and it's starting to deteriorate dad brain is when the kids just chip away we all did it to our parents

it's really confusing so i said are we doing this in the same timeline because my brain is not ready for this i think by the end of episode one, I feel like I'm kind of understanding what just happened in front of me, but I'm telling you, I know they're going to go a lot of places, but let's just let it be known. I think we're all a little confused right now. We were very, very confused in episode one.

We didn't even know what the fuck the TVA was. So I think a lot of us are overwhelmed right now. It's okay. We're all in this together. We're in the basement. This is the place. If you have to, you know, again, you again you suck on something blow some smoke up to make yourself get into the right mind let's not get into that whoa that got a little that got a little

graphic we can't be talking like that with ladies in the basement no we gotta watch ourselves yeah um i don't know if it's just like the wood paneling and all the like warm colors in the TVA, but something about being back there, it's like a warm blanket. It was like, oh man, it's like, it feels good to be back in a Marvel show that we could have faith in. We don't have to go in being like,

is this going to be a hit? Is this going to be another like stinker? It's just like, we're back in this great show. I agree completely. Also the cast I love, and you add obviously a great member which we'll get to but we go back with Mobius and B-15. B-15 was a character that got so much better over the first season I feel like and I've seen her in a couple other things recently. I really like this

actress and they're trying to figure out what's going on. They're also talking about what Loki revealed to them at the end of last season where they're all variants and they all have lives and timelines outside of this. Everything's branching. Everything's glitching. We meet a new guy, Hunter X5, who he has a big part in a lot of the trailers. So I think he's going to be a big part of this season. He seems like a total douche. Yeah.

Renslayer is also missing. I don't even remember the last time we saw Ravonna old rent slayer i was gonna say neither do i i really don't remember like what even happened to her was she was she just missing after they saw the time gods were fake i feel like after they cut the head off she kind of disappeared but i don't really i don't yeah i don't recall we saw her as the teacher we got the pencil or whatever i feel like she like what like she um chose to walk through like one of those little like light doors or something i could be i could be completely way off she might be with kang too because later in the episode we see that they are they do have a little thing they have a connection of some sort what's that dude that we don't uh x5 or is that his name

x5 yeah x5 he is such an asshole dickhead hardo that i want to die i feel like he's going to What's that dude that we don't, X5, or is that his name? X5, yeah. X5. He is such an asshole dickhead hardo that I want to die. I feel like he's going to be a good guy in the end. Because, like, they don't usually draw those feelings at you unless they're trying to mess with you. Am I off on that? And the way he picked up the Mobius jet ski magazine starts, like, picking on him for the jet skis. We love Mobius' fascination with jet skis. Like, don't come after our boy like that.

Well, wasn't, um, it's x12 is the woman right b15 b15 it's so hard to sign these fucking ladies names like it's like when uh can't we just name her jennifer or something exactly yeah the force awakens when when poe is like fn2187 no i going to call you Finn. Like, let's do that to B-15. Give her a name. Maybe she could get her memory back and find out what her name was. Right. Maybe that'll be a thing that happens in the end. But, yeah, I feel like she started off as kind of a hard-o, and now she's on Loki's side.

So maybe that's what'll happen. The same with X-5? X-5, yeah. It's like we're talking about droids and star wars here i know i know r2d2 x5 b15 yeah it's too much and i can't remember i they didn't even say the names of those two ladies that were like on the council and the judges yeah i was looking for one of their names because there was one i think was general Docs or Judge Docs or something. But the other I couldn't find a name for.

Even I went on the closed captionings. I had no idea. Yeah. General Docs was I know that lady for something. Do we know what General Docs is from? Did anyone look it up? No. Is she the Austin Powers lady?

So that's what I was thinking. You were thinking Frau? Frau Farbinder, right? I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, that's – she has – because she has the vibe of frow at that table totally she is uh what's her name the i want to get the name right so all the diehards don't get mad at me lisa aaron from game of thrones aka the breastfeeding mom of yes oh my god with the with the older kid her like 10 year old son with robin yeah with robin and she's the moon door they push him down the moon

little thing we won't do too many spoilers the people haven't gotten the thrones i would actually say some really crude stuff we have a girl in the basement that was a very weird relationship right that was also she's got a weird relationship with x5 later on the way they like put their heads against each other yes yes that was weird are they a thing is he breastfeeding off her i imagine if you got typecast as like the breastfeeding lady it's like i breastfeed kids that are like too old to breastfeed god damn it again yeah they definitely had some sort of weird. Some sort of weird lover relationship. I don't know if it's like a mother-son type of thing or a boyfriend-girlfriend type of thing.

But, yeah, that made me uncomfortable watching that. I think it made B-15 uncomfortable, too. She was looking over like, what the fuck are they doing that for? Yeah, like, get a room. Get a room. Loki sees the old judge's counsel in the past past so he's the whole episode going back and forth glitching in and out of the past almost like uh across the spider-verse and they glitch in and out of the universes there it looked very cool visually that was another thing about this

episode marvel has been hit or miss on vfx lately but i thought they were all pretty good in this episode there was no uh vfx scene where i was like distracted by how bad it was or anything. Yeah. But he sees the old, go ahead. Oh no. I just was going to say, it's funny how Mobius was like, that looks like it hurts really bad. And he was like,

Oh, it's not that bad. And I will say Tom Hiddleston, he is so handsome. And when he like comes back in like something about, I'm like, he like looks hot when he does that. Like he's the only guy.

When he's warping in and out and his face is all distorted. I feel like he's the only guy that can like look hot when he's getting distorted going in and out of time. I got to admit, I've always, I've been a big Hiddleston guy. We've talked about on the podcast a lot. I didn't realize he was a former Taylor Swift boyfriend. I kind of have a whole new respect for his game now. I'm like, damn, he was in that like, you know, circle that he was a former Taylor Swift boyfriend, I kind of have a whole new respect for his game now. I'm like, damn, he was in that circle. And how did the Swifties feel about him? Is he

an okay ex? Yes, we liked him. He was an in-between. She was dating Calvin Harris, broke up with him, got with Tom Hiddleston for a little. They were a brief fling and then she went to Joe Alwyn. So you guys should listen to the song getaway car.

He was right before. Yes. Her long-term relationship. Yeah. And the song. It's about Tom Hiddleston. Yep. So he was,

so it's like, he's in the getaway car. Like I needed to get away from my last relationship, got in with him, but he like, we kind of, it kind of happened so fast and you know we're stealing money we're running away together but this relationship is kind of like just a fling gotcha look at the basement diversifying our like music knowledge robbie's listening to oasis i'm getting my like sports things and we

just got a little tay Swift. That's right. Our demo is blowing up. Yeah. Robbie clip, clip one of those, that clip there and put Taylor Swift, all the SEO stuff to make us go viral on Tik TOK and YouTube. I was in Loki,

Taylor Swift. It'll be like a getaway car lyrics explained. Yeah. It'll be like getaway car lyrics explained. Something like that. So Loki sees in the old judges council room, there's a ton of Kang faces, just like there's Kang statues out there revealing at some point, Kang was open about running the TVA and then he wiped everyone's memory and made them think that it's the time Lords, time gods,

whatever. He even hears old tapes of Ravonna talking to Kang. They do the for all time always sounds like a little romantic connection is going on in the voiceover notes or whatever and in the comics they do have a romantic connection they are like a full thing so i think they'll probably go there it'll be interesting to see like which kang is she with though because there's a thousand kangs out there they killed the he who remains the other Kang got kicked into whatever by Ant-Man is she with like the main Kang is she with a random Kang does she not even care she like I'm with all Kangs

I feel like at this point yeah I mean how does she even tell the difference it's all that they all look the exact same so and it's I feel like it's gonna get really confusing in the future trying to keep up with who's who i mean even mobius was like what who the hell is he who remains like what kind of name is that yes as he was explaining that and he's explaining he who remains and the and everything i'm like this makes sense to me and but i know what's going on i'm trying to like listen to that as someone that hasn't seen all the comic books and read all the theories and everything. And I'm like, holy shit, he sounds like a legitimate madman right now. Also, I know they can't like reshoot the whole season because of the Jonathan Majors controversy in real life.

But I did think them adding Jonathan Majors to the Marvel logo at the beginning was a sign of how they feel about how that court case is going. I think they think it's going to swing in his favor and they're kind of leaning into it at this point because they did add just like a Guardians 3 clip and a clip of Jonathan Majors in the Marvel Studios logo. I mean, Robbie, Gia blogged it. You saw him. He stopped two girls fighting a completely random appearance. He just happened to get there at the right time.

Yeah. It was straight up like a stage actor from like. No. Don't go down this path. You're better than this. It was like a West Side Story audition it looked like. It was unbelievable. One of the most ridiculous.

Still my favorite part is the person holding their laptop front facing so they could record it with their laptop webcam. It's so ridiculous. So funny. Oh, and by the way, I saw Gia had talked about with this Loki stuff. We're all in agreement here. I need Kang at some point to show up like Big Daddy Kang, Main Kang,

whatever we call it, Renslayer's dude, and I need to see him murder someone. That performance in Ant-Man, I have a bad Kang taste in my mouth right now yeah it got taken away by ants and shit it was it's so foolish of marvel to have i mean i love ant-man i love paul rudd i thought quantumania was not that good but i loved um the first ant-man and the wasp and the original ant-Man and to have him be the one to defeat

Kang like just doesn't check out to me. Why even defeat him in the first one you know like let him win. Yeah I agree. Let him trap Scott in the quantum realm again or something like let him kill somebody. At the very least Robbie like in a wrestling like a disqualification or a count out like just don't have him

beat him and let him lose. Even though the answer is super smart about I get all that. just looks bad when you're big bad rince mcmahon would be puking if you saw that's how you introduce your new villain is he gets beat by ants it's just a tough one yeah yeah and he's got a win in the first appearance be intimidating at least make us think like this guy's gonna fuck us up yeah i wonder if they didn't want to go down the path of you know thana like you know how thano's like won and in in infinity war so maybe they didn't want to have that same because maybe people were expecting that because i feel like i was kind of expecting it in the end for kang to win because i i saw him as like probably the most powerful villain of the marvel universe but yeah

just to have yeah to have him carried away on ants was just so silly that I feel like they need to really push Kang and Loki now to make people actually scared of him. Maybe they'll be like, that was a bitch variant. They were like, that variant was, he wasn't shit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, because even the bad guy in Guardians, I thought was 10 times better than Kang. Way better. Which also, they did a cheat code where they have him kill cute animals, and you're like, that motherfucker! Rip his face to shreds! Yep, yep, that's facts. Maybe, and listen, I love animals, I don't want to see him die, but maybe that's the

answer with Kang. Just have him run over a dog, and I'm going to hate that guy more than I've ever hated anyone. Poor Eddie. Our guy Eddie in Barstool, like he just doesn't seem to be a dog guy. And I was like, he's the worst person ever created.

Like good thing that if Eddie's stuff goes viral, like big cat stuff, he'll be the biggest villain at Barstool at this point. Yeah, that's true. You raise a good point too, Gia. Cause like Thanos took some L's early in his time as a villain, but it was just because he was too lazy to do it himself.

He was like, I'm not leaving the country. I'm going to send Ronan to do my thing against the guards. I'm going to send Loki to Earth. And then finally he did it himself. Our guy Kang was like, I'm going to do everything, and he got washed. Just a bad look. So I'm going to say it. I'm going to call it now, episode one.

I forgot his name already. And Robbie, i'll be honest with you i forgot he was even a character until like the end of the episode what's the dude that had the uh the fish guy that we were talking about casey i think he i think you have to kill casey he's the closest thing we have to a pet in this show right now i hate to do it right i think he might be like i think he might be a little special that's all i'm gonna say i think he's like not all there so i think that will really that will really galvanize us as fans. Be like, this guy Kang has to go.

He killed Casey. He didn't even know what a fish was. Casey or B-15. What? B-15? B-12? B-15. But not OB, the new guy.

Yeah, OB is. That's too much. Too much. Don't you touch a hair on his head, Kang. We'll get to him. So in the future, they're listening to Loki reveal that they're all variants. All the judges are talking about it. They're like, you stopped the command of pruning, is it?

Yeah, pruning. Stop pruning people. What the fuck? But the one judge, the one judge that respectfully has a weird look about her, she is on B-15's side. She kind of believes her. So she's like, like okay she does order them to stop pruning loki finally appears in front of all of them and he starts like telling them about kang he sounds crazy at first but then he reveals the wall which like kang could like just slap flyers over everything but not destroy what was there prior very funny but there's still Kang faces and shit starts telling

Mobius about Kang he's like he said he was the devil he said that like we killed the devil I think he might have been right he said he made sense we like got to the man at the end of time and he actually made sense all of this actually put on the feeling that you got at the end of Quantumania where he starts having that like existential crisis of like but wait a minute I don't think we killed him. I think he might actually still be out there. So I liked this. And the other judge again has a weird thing with X five,

but wants him to find Sylvie. So it seems like all the TVA agents, that's going to be their mission in the next couple episodes, find Sylvie, just like it was in the first season. But everything about Loki telling Mobius about what happened and calling the fight between him and Sylvia draw. He's like, it was a draw.

Yeah, she kicked me through a time, though. It was a mutual breakup, basically. Yeah, yeah. Very, very funny. And the dynamic between Hiddleston and Owen Wilson is like, they might be the best friendship in the MCU at this point. Oh, I'm so obsessed with them. Their dialogue and the way that they feed off of each other is so funny it's it's i never in a million years would think that uh owen wilson would be such a great fit in something like this

but he's just perfect i was thinking about that as i watched them interact and i'm like there is part of me it's like could owen wilson have been a quote-unquote bigger character i don't know how big mobius is in the comics but i'm like i kind of like him exactly where he is we don't need to introduce that many new characters there's probably not a ton that are left I don't know how big Mobius is in the comics, but I'm like, I kind of like him exactly where he is. We don't need to introduce that many new characters. There's probably not a ton that are left. I don't think he fits any Fantastic Four or X-Men. And I'm like, yeah, they just get it. They just get it perfectly together.

You guys just talking through this actually also made me realize before season one, Robbie, even on the pod, I was like, listen, I love Loki. He's a fucking trickster. He's the god of mischief. I let my guard down on Loki this episode.

I'm not doing that again. I am guard up. I think he's a changed man. I think he kind of went through all the stuff that he had to to kind of, even though he didn't, he doesn't have the arc of the Avengers endgame Loki, because obviously he leaves in, what is it? The first Avengers. Yeah. By the way, he is having an unbelievable week of his life.

This is still the same week after he gets the Tesseract and disappears. But I'm just putting my guard up now. I'm putting my guard up on Loki. I feel like he's going to bamboozle us at some point. That Sylvie line is kind of a glimpse in like, Loki, he bends the truth a little bit. We'll just say that yeah yeah he does also it's i think a year after the first door this is supposed to take place which is fucked up to think about because it feels like the first door was 20 years ago so is thors are thors eyebrows still blonde and canon at this point yeah they're

that was a weird choice whoever did a screen test to Hemsworth and was like, this guy needs blonde eyebrows. Don't touch anything about Chris Hemsworth body. Don't do it like perfect as is. Yeah. So they see Mobius sees Loki glitch a couple of times, realizes we need some help. So they go all the way down to the basement.

They get on an elevator. They go down and meet Ouroboros, who is played by k hu kwan one of the internet's sweethearts at this point he played data in the goonies he played short round in indiana jones obviously he won the oscar for everything everywhere all at once he is you want to talk about a perfect fit for this show in the marvel universe they basically have him playing like an adult data where he's the fixer and you go in the basement. He could fix anything.

His basement. This is going to be maybe a really niche reference, but I feel like Gia will at least get it because you grew up with this, too. It reminded me of the mail room in How the Grinch Stole Christmas. The Jim Carrey one. Okay. Where they're constantly putting in like the bank tubes with like the doo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just overloaded with like what looks like junk.

But the whole design of this him coming into the show the way he comes down on like a swing everything about him in this show i love kang cannot touch this guy we need to protect k hu kwan at all costs also he's called ob which yp used to call me octagon bob used to be like ob so as soon as they started saying ob in this episode i was was like, all right, I feel a connection to this guy. I loved everything about him. I loved his like chaotic energy. I felt like it just fits so well.

And there was one shot of him when he was like walking towards his desk with everything behind him. And it's very cool how cinematic they make this show. Like each episode feels like you're watching a movie. And especially with the addition of a huge movie star like him. I don't know. I just feel like he's the perfect cherry on top to an already great show. And his character, I'm very curious to see what he will do in future episodes.

Or if he's going to be in more episodes. I don't really know. I think he is because they made a big deal of announcing him as a cast member one of the comic cons or something like kevin feige made a big deal about like he's joining the cast also i wanted to know his name oro boros that was the name of this episode as well means a snake that eats its own tail so maybe a reference to that little timeline thing they had this episode when they start talking to him. That was also very cool. The way they basically do this past-present sequence

where they're explaining, Mobius is explaining to present him this is going to be confusing to try to explain. He's explaining to present him what's happening to Loki while Loki is in the past with Kei He Kwan without glasses. So he's like this and he's like, oh, what happened? And he's figuring out what they talked about in the past in real time.

I don't know if I've ever seen a time travel show or movie like do something like that, but the way it was shot going in and out of the conversation that was kind of like the same conversation, I thought this was like maybe my favorite part of the episode. So again, my brain was kind of struggling with this at first, but that actor is like oddly the perfect guy to kind of be like, Oh, I remember now. And it's making sense because I loved him and everything everywhere all at

once. He was maybe my favorite part of the movie. And just like that, like dopey, but lovable husband. And he kind of plays the same role here. The fact that he has like the, the nickname OB it's like, I just love this fucking guy. I was,. The fact that he has the nickname OB,

it's like, I just love this fucking guy. That's the name of the episode too, was Ouroboros. I'm like, what the fuck is this? And then I'm like, oh, that's our guy. Two things. One, you can't hurt this guy, Kang. This is off limits. This is not allowed.

If you do that, I'm the villain lover of this show. I can't even get on your side if you hurt my boy OB. Because I could almost see like, almost be like, oh no, OB. I can't do that, I'm the villain lover of this show. I can't even get on your side. If you hurt my boy OB, because I could almost see like, almost be like, Oh no, I can't do it. But I'm also putting this as well. I can't put this guy on the sus list.

He's unsusable. If they fucking flip. And this guy is like Kang's henchmen the whole time. It's just going to make me sad. I won't even be like, Oh, what a great, it's just going to make me bummed out.

That guy, he's so pure. He's short round. He's the husband. He's just such a good fucking guy. I love him. I will say. I didn't realize his pictures with everyone when he's like. Yeah, yeah.

The selfies are so cute. But I will say, not to jump too much ahead, but when they're trying to pull Loki out of whatever and he has to push the big red button, I kind of got a little bit of a vibe. A little sus vibe. Yeah, a little sus vibe because they give him two more seconds. I will say he went like three, three, three, and then eventually did it. But he didn't even try to help Mobius try to get back inside. He was just standing there as the doors were closing. He was like, sorry.

Like, just bye. So I was like, okay, that's a little sus. I don't know. Is he just too, like, you know, they had the following orders line this episode. Mobius saw the TVA agent that, like, pruned him last week. He's like, oh, I guess you were just following orders. Right. Now, Obis, as he wrote, like, the TVva handbook or whatever that's on everyone's desks is he just so brainwashed that he's like that follow we have to follow orders at all costs guy i can see that

as well and maybe he'll discover his old life and he was like the husband at the laundromat and his old life was just everything everywhere all at once he i was gonna say he's a buy the book guy he's literally by the book he made the book say he's a buy the book guy. He's literally buy the book. He made the book. The book's buy him. The book is buy him. He also has that great scene where they're, it's like right after this, where he's like, all right, we got to walk to the temporal loom room

or something like that. He makes the whole whatever machine to help. A lot of fancy words being thrown around mechanical magic time travel words um but when he throws the book in the air and just behind him and loki like catches it and starts reading it i was like holy shit what a great scene they do the whole walk and talk with them they get the extractor and like gia said there's this like sequence where they have to press a red button and then loki has to prune himself within a couple seconds of that. And then this is where I got really confused. Yeah. I watched the episode once and then I watched like a breakdown of the episode just to make sure I kind of knew what was going

on here. But even in that, there's just like, there's a sequence of events that has to hit at the right time. So they headed to the room. I liked and it pays off later they keep making a joke about mobius losing his skin so he writes skin on the like dust yeah on the computer um and he puts on a bomb suit so it looks like the hurt locker or something it's even got a crack in it they slap a little duct tape on it he's like you'll be fine head out there and now he has to put the accelerator or the extractor in this globe that looks like the nuke. And then Loki has to prune himself. Then they have to hit the button and they get back or else he's lost the time.

Right before they're about to go off on the mission, Loki glitches again. It's like, oh, fuck. But he sees the skin written on the computer. So, you know, I'm not in the past anymore. I'm in the future, which I thought was such a cool twist that this episode had. And then his mad dash and scramble through all the desks in the TVA to find the time stick, which also I was like, you got to figure out a better name than that.

You have like the most fancy mechanical names for everything. And this is the time stick. That's it. But like pruning device, something like that. But yeah, he's trying to find the time stick and eventually he slows down. And I was like,

what the fuck? Cause this is the moment where KU Kwan is like three three i'm like loki maybe a little fucking hustle would help you here he slows down because he senses someone it's sylvie it's the future version of sylvie we think because she's got bangs totally different haircut than we've seen she reacts to him pretty casually as if they were together in the future she's like oh there you are i was looking for you like help me out of this elevator and then he gets pruned loki from behind gets pruned we don't know who did this though yeah is this future loki that was with sylvie doing it to himself because he knows what has to happen is it a totally different characters at mobius is it fucking kang like i

could be right i don't know yeah i think that was the biggest unanswered question of the episode, who pruned him. I mean, that was such a high-intensity scene when he's starting to slow down, but it's sped up, and the phone's ringing, and you're like, who's calling? Who's on the phone? Yeah, you get sirens from Mobius's part. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, is he going to answer the phone? And then all of a sudden, Sylvie's there, and then all of a sudden, he's's there and then all of a sudden he's pruned it's like what the fuck did i just watch like who did that but i i feel like it has to be a even more future loki or a loki in the past i think it's i think

it's what you're saying more future loki yeah i think a future loki was with sylvie in the tva and i have a feeling we'll see this in like a later episode and he'll go like prune himself and it'll all kind of click and lock into place. We'll be like, oh, shit. That makes sense now. It'd be cool to see the full like blueprint of how they got there in another episode. OK, this makes me feel a lot better because this part of the episode is where my brain just went into a black hole and didn't know what the fuck was going on i'll be honest i thought this loki this loki pruned himself somehow and i'm like oh okay he did that turns out i was way wrong and we don't even know who pruned him i thought and i think the phone was meant to kind of get like fuck with your head

because i'm getting matrix flashbacks i'm like pick up the phone we'll get to neo everything will be all right i'm going different cinematic universes at this point is this what interstellar is like i've never watched i've seen the suit and i know it makes no sense is that kind of like that honestly like there are interstellar vibes in this episode like interstellar is a big like times a flat circle like all that where it could loop what are they the bootstrap is What are they? The bootstrap? Is that what they call it? The bootstrap paradox? Is where like you can affect. Oh, it's. It's.

It's like you can basically. Are you talking about Murphy's Law? Anything that happened. Maybe it's Murphy's Law. Will happen or something? Because that's like why he names his daughter Murph. Yeah. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Something like that.

Also, my favorite. My favorite thing about that is it's the one movie that christopher nolan made without killian murphy and he had a character just longing for someone named murphy the whole movie yeah nolan loves killian murphy he made a whole movie i will say this this whole that whole scene where they're explaining the branches i know it's a ton to like to tell us to you know get us to mentally understand and digest almost got to do like the barbie thing where it's like guys i know this is really confusing trust me it's going to make sense in a few episodes like be like even have she-hulk pop up i know people fucking hate she-hulk the the barbie the barbie haters and the she-hulk haters are just

one circle and a venn diagram for the most part. But those things like a little comedic relief where it's like you break the fourth wall or the fifth wall, whatever it is. And you say, this is confusing. Don't worry. We're in this together. It's all going to make sense down the road. Would have helped me because I was so fucking lost in this part. And I'm like, Gia and Robbie, you're going to explain it to me tomorrow. But I will say, um, just like the first episode of the first season. I mean, so I will say um just like the first episode of the first season I mean so I would say even the first three to four episodes of the first season I was watching sitting watching so intrigued by what was happening but so confused and just if somebody asked me what I just watched I probably wouldn't have been able to reverb anything of it so I feel like that's kind of where we're starting

off for this season too like they're they're gonna throw a lot of stuff at us like they did season one and you know eventually down the line we're gonna be able to figure out what they were saying because i was the same way clem i was literally i was like i thought they were saying temporal lobe but they're saying temporal loom and i was like oh do they have to put this in his brain i was so so confused yeah i liked how visually it kind of looked confusing too. In that void or whatever that Mobius was in. Now they show that timeline is almost like a rope with like a bunch of strands like peeling off of it. It looked chaotic and messy.

And I like that because that's how it felt too. Everything about the way that they have the timeline as a branch and it branches off. Even last season. I thought that was really cool and really cool the way they handled it uh but he does slip into the future or i guess at this point the past wonky slips into the present and he like goes like 90 miles an hour at mobius they basically save each other they're alive um and then the tva is going after sylvie to like any episode but we do get a post-credit scene in the post-credits. Sylvie shows up in Broxton,

Oklahoma, which is where she first showed up in the series. The first time we ever saw Sylvie, she was on a farm in Broxton, Oklahoma, Broxton, Oklahoma is a big part of the comics because that is where they make new Asgard in the comics where we saw in the movies.

They made it, I think somewhere in in Europe or whatever. Finland, Sweden or something. Norway, something like that. Yeah, but I think if they're going to Broxton and it's such a big part of the comics, maybe a new

Asgard can form here or something. She goes into a McDonald's. She's like, give me something that I don't have to kill, basically. She had nothing with rat in it. Nothing with vermin in it. The guy's like, uh, you can try chicken McNuggets if you'd like. And it's, I think 1982 or something. So she's a couple.

She stares at the couple for a while. Makes you think she's missing her man, her man Loki. Um, and then I think later on, she'll get a job here. Cause we saw in the trailers and stuff, she's wearing a McDonald's uniform with like a visor and everything. And she's got the new hair in the trailer. She's got bangs. So that'll differentiate between the two Sylvie's. Great post-credit scene just in me being like, well, I'm excited to see what happens with Sylvie

because we got basically no Sylvie this episode. And I like post-credit scenes in my Marvel stuff. Not every time, but a big premiere like this, it's nice. It's like a little dessert. I didn't know there was a post-credit scene, Bob, until your tweet. Oh, I made sure to put it in my tweet because I figured some people might shut it off. I've gotten conditioned to this point.

I mean, Secret Invasion, do we have any post-credit scenes? No, I don't think so. Not even in the finale. We thought the finale was a lot. Post-credit scenes were basically Nick Fury's time to shine. They made a Nick Fury show and didn't put a – I'm going to get very angry talking about Secret Invasion. You know what?

I have fellow people that were with me on this. I know G is with me in terms of the Secret Invasion hate right now. I hate it. Let's breathe it out. We're back. We have Loki. We had a post-credit scene. Not only do we have a post-credit scene, we had a McDonald's in the 80s scene.

And listen, you guys were a little young. You guys weren't around back then. Young, yeah. I was born in that year. I was an afterthought. Did your parents even meet in 1982? Did they even know each other in 1982? My parents knew each other, yeah.

My parents graduated high school together in 1980. I think my parents knew each other. I don't – wait. Your parents graduated high school together in 1980. I think my parents knew each other. I don't. Wait, your parents graduated high school in 1980? Yeah, I think so. I think that was the year. Oh, wait, no, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Yes, no, that makes sense. Yes, because my mom graduated college in 86. So my parents might have knew each other, but probably not. So that's what we're talking about. But I remember like the 80s McDonald's, those menus. I don't want to see the prices. They probably are so just like right now you go to McDonald's. Like she was thinking the menu is like 250.

It drives me nuts. The cheeseburgers aren't even a dollar anymore. They're $3. Yeah, there was a dollar menu. We used to live, this country used to make things. It used to be a dollar. It was the best. So I love seeing that.

And they snuck in the new chicken McNuggets. I appreciated that. And I love that Tilby says she wants to try everything on the menu. Bob, you're the promoter. You're the marketing mind of this podcast. What do we have to do to get you to try every single thing on the McDonald's menu? What kind of subscriber number do we have to hit? We already have, we have a Gia slapping people around on helping the baby try to get 50,000 viewers. Who do we have to slap? You don't have to eat everything. You just have to try

everything. And I'm not just talking about the burgers. I'm not talking about every single chicken. You have to try every sauce. You have to try every shake. Do you not like McDonald's, Bob? I like McDonald's. No, I like McDonald's. I had it yesterday McDonald's. I paid for McDonald's? No, I like McDonald's. I had it yesterday, literally.

I will say the Chicken McNuggets have slipped in recent years. The Chicken McNuggets are not what they used to be. I don't know what happened there. McDonald's needs to get on that because it's strange. Yeah, they are. I used to get a 10-piece. Then I got a 6-piece. Now I'm down to the 4-piece and a couple burgers because I want the taste of a McNugget, but I'm disappointed every time. I would try everything

on the McDonald's menu if it was one paid for. And if two, we get the 50,000 subscribers, that was the year end goal, which we're not too far away from, right? Like 46, nine or something. We're close. So if it gets, maybe Kelly Keegs can work her connections, president Kelly Keegs, who got McDonald's for the whole office one day. That was a huge morale booster, a huge great move by the president. Maybe she works her connections, throws like a Taylor Swift thing in there. We could make a video for them or something. Boom.

Okay. So that's it. So Gia, you're more than welcome as well. We can do it together. We're not eating a burger. We're not eating like every single thing on the menu. We're going to just try every bite. So it's like,

I can't, I don't even want to think about how much calories are in an entire menu of McDonald's. I had a buddy in college who wants sort of the left side of the Taco Bell menu. It's one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. The left side of the Taco Bell menu. He goes,

I want the left side of the menu. And he was an offensive lineman college football player. So he could build that. I think we all try it, but we're trying everything, folks. We're trying the sauces. We're trying all the desserts, all the different kind of milkshakes. We're trying all the burgers, the chicken, whatever new item may be out. We have the special Loki sweet and sour sauce out there.

They do have that now. Yeah. So yeah, if President Keegs or any of the listeners can think of ways where we can get McDonald's. We'll make a video of it, obviously. And we have to get to 50,000. So you guys have to help us get it to 50,000. And we have to figure out a way to pay what? What do you think that is? How much do you think the entire menu of McDonald's is? Just one of everything. $1,000? No, not that much. Can't be. You think? It's the new menu though, Bob. Are we doing one of each? Are we doing one thing, one of each?

Yeah. So we'll get one hamburger, one quarter pounder with cheese, one Big Mac. Yeah. I think like 250 bucks. That's I guess the other question. I think it'd be like that. And then you have to think about the hospital bill that we're going to get after. Yes.

That might add up a little bit. The diabetes medication. Soda alone is going to be a problem. Yeah. Which by the way, did you guys know that whole supersize me thing was like, it was practically a scam. Like that guy was apparently like super unhealthy otherwise.

And like, he, I think he was on drugs at the time and they're like, this guy was so unhealthy. It's like, yeah, he was binge drinking after his supersize mcdonald's meals that's hilarious yeah i read about that did not stop any kid from trying mcdonald's it just made all the kids in my

health class to be like why don't they do supersized meals anymore it's bullshit yeah they killed the supersized meal which fun fact i always, I always tell my fun fact, they made it from Jurassic Park. It was how the birth of the supersized meal. And then a great movie births it, and a goddamn jerk who made a movie killed it. It's fucking poetry. It rhymes. Sorry, Bob. It is.

That was Loki, episode one, though. Season two, episode one. And a little bit of season one, episode one from Gia as well. Gia, we'll have to get you back in the basement to talk about Loki throughout this season too. I would love to do that. Yeah. It's going to get crazy and we're going to need help getting through it, I think. Yeah.

I'm very excited to see how Sylvie and Loki's relationship goes on from here. Because this is, the Sylvie that's in oklahoma is the sylvie that killed kane correct seems like right afterwards yeah i was trying to figure it out yeah right she got the short hair she's in the same outfit yeah right right so people kind of think it's weird that they like like each other i kind of love it i'm a sucker for a good love story and i think it just explains low-key perfectly that the only person that he would fall in love with is himself basically. Yeah. So I,

I think that they they're great and I'm excited to see Sylvie with Mobius too. And the whole dynamic in Oklahoma, because I think they showed a little bit of snippets of that in the trailers of all of them three together. So I'm super excited for the rest of the season. I am too. Sylvie is one of my favorite phase four,

or I think it's phase four, phase four characters, especially the dynamic with Loki. It's one of the few like truly unique love stories in the MCU. There's a lot of hero falls in love with, best friend they grew up with or whatever. This is like, he's in love with himself. People are like, is this incest?

Is he in love with himself? Is it masturbation? Is it normal? The fact that those conversations are being thrown out there, this is like a wacky sci-fi show. It's exactly what it should be. So I thought, honestly, as good a premiere as I could have asked for, it made me feel that warm sense of this is quality that the first season gave us. So I'm very happy with season two, episode one.

Me too. I'm very excited. And again episode one me too i'm i'm very excited and again i think just being able to hit the ground running and not having to do the two episodes worth of background and all that stuff helps this out so much it still was a lot to take in but again this is marvel if they can't land loki because this is basically the best show they had if this is even like poisoned like everything else in the universe that isn't Guardian seems to be, like, fuck, man. Trust the fight, he has to come back at some point. Jesus.

Yeah, yeah. All right, that was the Loki season two episode one recap. Thank you, Gia, for joining us in the basement. Clem, thank you as always. And we will be back, I guess, next Friday, because this comes out on Thursdays, unless Marvel changes it, unless they listen to this and listen to Clem and change you as always. And we will be back, I guess, next Friday because this comes out on Thursdays. Unless Marvel changes it. Unless they listen to this and listen to Clem and change the release date.

Yeah. It will be out next Friday. We'll talk to you guys then. Give us some McDonald's ideas. I kind of want to do this. Oh, yeah. Sick and twisted.