My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 308 - LOKI SEASON 2 EPISODE 3 WITH CLEM AND GIA

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Robbie, Clem, and Gia recap #Loki Season 2 Episode 3, which introduces us to KANG variant Victor Timely! We're talkin Key Lime Pie theories, the 1893 World's Fair in Chicago, Gia's first New York Comi...c Con, and more! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! Factor: Head to https://FACTORMEALS.com/robbie50 and use code robbie50 to get 50% off. C4: Grab the new C4 Ultimate Energy WWE flavors today at GNC, online, or find them near you at https://FindC4.com. #MCU #MarvelStudios ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by 3Chi and Barstool Sports in another Loki recap edition of My Mom's Basement. It's Season 2, Episode 3, and Gia is back in the basement. She had to go fight with the Phillies a couple days ago, but now she's fighting with us in the TVA back in the basement. Gia, welcome back. Clem, of course, with us as always. The Phillies were coming off a loss last night. Gia, how are we feeling?
Starting point is 00:00:35 One to ten. Actually, no, ball scale. One to five. How are we feeling right now for the NLCS? Feeling good, honestly. I feel like we weren't going to sweep them, so I'm fine to get this loss off the board and then we'll come back tonight and i feel like we're going to get a win we played
Starting point is 00:00:51 terrible last night and we still almost beat them so i think we're okay so one to five how do you feel oh five being like no stress um i feel like there's always stress when it comes to Philadelphia sports. So I'm going to say like a 3.5. All right. Fair enough. All right. This low-key season two episode three recap of my mom's basement is presented by 3G. Of all the things in life, one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want,
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Starting point is 00:03:03 It's like a Miss Minutes. It's like a living, breathing thing or something. But we did a live episode. And when you do live episodes, they don't put them in the videos. So if you go to our channel and click on videos, it looks like it's not there. You got to click on live. But we did, we tried to do an episode. It's, it's got like maybe like two thirds, the views as the last one, or maybe that's just the G a bump. Maybe we need G in the basement every week to give us those. We need the goddamn Phillies to lose in the, in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:03:29 It'll help my mental state and it'll get the algorithm given us. So it was G. No, it's tough for your team. This isn't hitting seven or runs in the first inning. And then you guys just get the coast. I'm so jealous of Phillies fans, likable team,
Starting point is 00:03:43 just a gritty. And yeah, that's the sports for the day. i'll i'll stop the sports i apologize i don't want i don't want this to mess up the nerdy algorithm either too much well let's talk let's talk some nerdy shit loki episode three came out last night and it was very good like it's i tweeted it's hard to stop or it's hard to not sound like a broken record but it's just so good every week it's hard to not sound like a broken record, but it's just so good every week. It's also hard not to trash the other Marvel projects when you watch this. And I know you shouldn't knock projects down to lift this one up, but you watch this and you're like, God damn, the quality is so much higher than everything else.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Like everything else. It's almost like a bucket of cold water on my face because i say every week like i'm more positive than most on this phase loki is making me more negative than most on this phase because i'm like god damn why can't everything be this good yeah it's this episode i feel like was my favorite so far but i feel like i've been saying that i'm going to be saying that the whole season i I, I just loved everything about how they represented the new Kang variant. I just, everything about this episode was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I would, I loved it. Yeah. Last episode we were saying how we were excited to be like, oh yeah, Loki has powers. He can do crazy Loki shit. So when I see in the magic now it's like, oh yeah, Loki has powers. He can do crazy Loki shit. So when I see in the magic, now it's like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:05 Kang's going to be in this show. It's kind of cool to see Kang or a version of Kang, whatever kind of variant stuff. And the planning that's going on, you saw that she's like, you have to throw the book in there. So it was just kind of having that nice. However, I came from a different angle on this episode. I am going to forever be
Starting point is 00:05:25 Mad because I still Don't think we're hitting every episode I'm on the Gen V I'm on a Gen V grading scale And Gen V is hitting every week for me where I'm like This is a fun ass episode And it's one that's a standalone yet it's building I don't know if I could like just watch this episode
Starting point is 00:05:40 Of Loki like two years from now and be like Oh that was great where I feel like I am Kind of broken brain from it's's a different show, different series, different universe altogether. Then I actually did see, they had a thing where they listed out all the finales of the Marvel shows so far and how from worst to best in terms of ranked. And I saw the goddamn asshole, forgot his name already from Secret Invasion. And I'm like, that was so goddamn bad that fucking asshole is just this super power we have khaleesi's just running around with every superpower ever you
Starting point is 00:06:10 know spoiler alert and that's just the thing that exists in marvel right now so you know what i'm that grounded me loki was good let's get into it uh we had some fun we had some fun last night we did and i got hyped up by the writer actually er, Eric Martin. I tweeted, like, I'm so stoked for Loki. He tweeted back, it's a banger. So I was like, oh, my God, the writer himself is hyping it up. It better be a banger. And I kind of expected something big. Me and Clem were texting beforehand, like, do we get Kang this week? Do we get a version of Kang this week?
Starting point is 00:06:38 We obviously saw the post-credit scene for Quantumania was in this old-timey realm that we saw that this episode's going to be in. So I figured maybe we'll get him but i thought he would be once again like at the end of the episode almost like with ahsoka where i thought we would get like anakin at the end of one episode and then you'd get him for the full episode in the next one i didn't expect to get a full episode of jonathan majors here and i know he's got his real life stuff that's still being figured out but just his performance. If we're just talking about that, Oh my God, this guy could act his ass off.
Starting point is 00:07:09 He's so good. Like this. And he, who remains being the same person, like they're literally the same person is playing them, but it feels like two completely different people that could somehow be linked the way I also said, the way they handle this,
Starting point is 00:07:23 this team needs to be involved with everything Kang is involved with going forward like they get him they get it yeah I I totally thought the same thing where you know we would just get like a snippet of Kang at the end but I liked that they had him throughout the episode because I feel like it made you sympathize with him more like those the not to rush towards the end, but you know, like Sylvie is so dead set on killing him and there's a part of you, or at least for me where I was like, Oh, I kind of feel bad for him. Like, I know that he's a terrible person,
Starting point is 00:07:57 that he's going to do bad things and like take over the universe, whatever. But when he is, when you see him as this like inventor, quirky guy, it kind of makes you feel like, like you want to protect him a little bit. Yeah. That's a fair way to put it. And I was trying to like stop my brain from thinking that I'm like, wait, this is exactly what he wants you to think. And then I'm like, is he pulling one over on us at home? So, yeah, there's going to be a lot of brain cramps going on as I'm trying to figure out Kang, who is much smarter than me, even in the 1890s. Which, by the way, I loved the Marvel graphic going up.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And we got the little old-timey piano. I was playing it at home with my fingers. Yeah, I love that, too. Anytime that they could make the Marvel intro like a little unique like that i'm all for it it's almost like the the simpsons sitting on the couch in a different way every week it's like oh my god they changed it up i love that so we'll get right into it we're going to chicago first in 1868 the episode is called 1893 which these years are getting confusing the other day my brother texted me he's like i'm watching 1408 right now. I was like, sick.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I love Harrison Ford. He's like, what are you talking about? It's a John Cusack movie. And I was like, oh, I'm thinking of 1922, the Yellowstone, Harrison Ford. We're just doing years now. So my brain is already in a bit of a mishmash when you start giving me all random years. But we see Ravonna. She goes to Chicago and she meets up with that sus-ass clock bitch, Miss Minutes.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And as soon as I saw her, I was like, oh, God, here she is. We were on to her from the first episode last season. We were like, there's no way. She's too good to be true, basically. She was. And she's told to drop a package off through a window. We don't really know who's through there until they show us. It's a tva
Starting point is 00:09:45 guidebook for a young victor timely and this is what we referenced i think in episode one they call it the bootstrap paradox where i think there's a element of it in inception too where it's like oh one day someone gets uh on their doorstep like uh the the instructions to build a time machine they build the time machine they're like this is awesome and then they realize they have to go back in time and give it to themselves because they were the only ones that could do it's the time is a flat circle thing once again blows my brain and then i have to watch a recap video from like our friend heavy spoilers afterwards and i'm like all right I think I understand it now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Just going to pat ourselves on the back, Robbie. We called that bitch out for being sus the minute we saw her. The minute we saw her. We did. And granted, it was like maybe a little problematic. I think it was, she had a Southern accent, like a woman Southern accent.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And it was kind of like the murder mysteries. It's always the sultry, you know, Southern belle that ends up being the killer but hey this time it worked out one for the baseball boys and gal i also liked her her black and white when she's like oh let me like fit to the times and she like turns into like a black and white steamboat willie cartoon it's so great that was great yeah i really i don't i was just gonna say, I don't like her. I didn't like her from the beginning, but she, like, seeing her and her weird relationship, like, that she might have a crush on Timely, that was so uncomfortable. Might, no. It passed my, Gia. She has a crush on Timely. Miss Minotaurny never in a million years that i think that they would go
Starting point is 00:11:27 there and they did and i felt so uncomfortable hey let me give the people a hashtag for this week to tweet us if you're watching this episode right now i want you to hit hashtag clock blocked i think that's a good hashtag this week i can't take credit for it i saw it somewhere on reddit or twitter somewhere so then i was like all, that's the hashtag for this week. Clock. Now, OB is mentioned later because of the guidebook that obviously he wrote. That's given to a young Victor timely and timely not to skip ahead. He almost fanboys when he's talking about OB.
Starting point is 00:11:57 He's like, oh, yeah, OB. He knows everything, whatever. Or Ouroboros. I'm seeing a lot of theories online now. Could Ouroboros be set up to be the next he who remains? Because he's the all-knowing, knows everything about the TVA, is the guy who probably doesn't want that spot, but they say the best people for the power are the ones that don't want the power.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Gia, last week, I don't even really want to say this again, but I said Obi was giving me vibes of a certain imaginary friend from inside out i don't even want to say his name because it should come with a trigger warning but trigger warning yeah and i was like i could see oraboris being like you know sacrificing himself for everyone else in the temporal womb oh you uh you gee we're gonna lose clem you hit that that's the saddest moment in any pixel it's like the saddest thing of all time no i was getting those vibes now people are giving me theories the complete opposite way they're saying no no not bing bong they're saying or boris could be he who remain he could be the guy at the end of time which would
Starting point is 00:13:02 be insane so are you saying like he would take Kang's spot? Like someone's got to take that spot. No, I think he's got to take that spot. Which people thought maybe Loki or Sylvie could take that spot together. I don't think they're probably going to do it because I think Loki's going to go for the Avengers. I mean, he's been by himself for like ever. Yeah. So he's kind himself for like ever. Yeah. So he's kind of used to it.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah. He wrote the guidebook that like Kang read to become Kang. I don't know. There's some interesting theories out there. Someone also tweeted me in Clement theory this week that I think I told you this G that the key lime pie could be what's wiping the minds of everyone at the TVA that like, that's the only thing they're eating. Loki thought it tasted weird and just started eating whipped cream.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It looks a little too green for everyone's liking people in Florida. It should be yellow. Yeah. So I don't know. I, I, I like that as a, as an idea,
Starting point is 00:14:03 apparently comic-con, they were giving out chocolates that had missed minutes on them, and they had key lime filling. So I think there's something to the key lime. Yeah, I could totally see that. It was weird that they go into this room, and it's just pie, and then every single shelf is pie. It has to mean something. I'm tracking down a slice of key lime pie this weekend. I couldn't find any last weekend,
Starting point is 00:14:26 New York in the middle of October, not the key lime pie hotspot. You would think. So I'm going to make another effort this weekend to do it. Speaking of OB, he's back at the temporal loom, which I love that the first episode I was like the temp temporal loom. Now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:14:42 he's back at the temporal loom. You know where it is back at the mojo dojo casa house um telling everyone they're about to die this is his signature line at this point you pull a string on his back he's like we're all about to die um more timelines are sprouting now which i thought was interesting the timelines that got pruned some of them are coming back could this be a way they could bring in fantastic four and x-men where it's like we pruned this timeline now this one came back let's look at it oh my god there's mutants on this timeline i've read something about that on twitter that people think that this is how they're
Starting point is 00:15:16 going to introduce deadpool and wolverine i think they could do that i also do think that this is somehow going to end on a Deadpool tease. Everyone's talking about Deadpool being TVA related. Maybe Loki and Mobius are going after Deadpool because he killed the Fox timeline. And, you know, it was a illegal time move or whatever you want to call that. I could see that. They better. They better, Robbie.
Starting point is 00:15:41 They owe us not one, but two post-credit scenes because let's not forget going back to that fucking stupid secret invasion show nick fury's entire brand was the post-credit scene then they didn't have a post-credit scene at the end of his own show so we are due a deadpool post-credit scene and another at least 4.5 out of 5 on the ball scale post-credits season. Like you couldn't give us for that show, not to go back to Secret of Passion, you couldn't give us 30 seconds from the Marvels. Just that. Like that would have been fine.
Starting point is 00:16:15 They basically already showed us the entire movie. Just tell us what happens and be like, now you don't have to spend $20 at the movie theater. We just saved you because you spent six hours watching this show. Someone did point out on the Marvel Reddit the other day, they're like, I'm pretty sure this shot from the trailer is just from the end of the movie. I don't even want to spoil it for everyone listening to this,
Starting point is 00:16:33 but I read why they think that, and I'm pretty sure they just showed a shot from the end of the movie in very bizarre marketing. If that ends up being true, if that ends up being true. He's speechless. I already don't trust the Feige. Like, Feige's on, like, my watch list now.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He's, like, becoming an enemy of the program, I feel. Like, that's why I don't think it could happen. Don't say that. He's not becoming an enemy of the program. No. This side of the program. But the news report also came out this week that marvel was stunned when quantumania got bad reviews and they thought they had a banger on their hands like they were
Starting point is 00:17:11 putting all the marketing to that because they thought they that it was going to be the best movie they ever released like what that's crazy to me because their judgment's just off now yeah that that when i saw that that it was like feige was like really like he like cares a lot about uh the fresh the rotten tomatoes like yeah he loves the rotten tomato scores he has the trophies in the office they said also that so there's a marvel book that just dropped about like the whole like start of the mcu i read like a little bullet point spark notes of it that was very interesting so i do want to get the book there was something that shocked me in it apparently up until avengers came out the marvel studios office was just rented office space above a mercedes
Starting point is 00:17:56 benz dealership until avengers came at the first event like so they're making iron man 2 and captain america and thor and shit and kevin feige's like dealing with asshole car dealers like down below it's like barstool was becoming this rocket ship media company in a dentist office with dave and had a squirrel in his walls that's amazing yeah that's a great i gotta check out that book that and i said i have to listen to the audiobook i don't have the like uh attention span or even the eyes anymore to even read a book but i will definitely listen to the shit out of it that sounds like a really good book by the way yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna become an audiobook guy because i always just put on podcasts when i take my dog for walks and i'm like it might be better to just start listening to audiobooks and then like at the end of a week i'm like i listened to
Starting point is 00:18:42 a book this week you help me feel very smart and then just just realize like reading books might make you smart and you can say that you read the book because you're not going to say i listened to the book it's it's a good way to cheat about it like oh i i read a book last month it was if i retained it yeah it doesn't matter it's still give me a quiz on it yeah i'll do a quiz. I'll do a test. I'm open to testing. We go to Chicago now in 1893 at the World's Fair. Now, speaking of our friend Heavy Spoilers, he put in his video an interesting tidbit about this World's Fair. One, I think it was to celebrate the anniversary of Christopher Columbus coming to America in some way.
Starting point is 00:19:23 It was like Columbus's World's Fair or something. And the Chicago mayor was actually assassinated at this World's Fair, like in real life, which is pretty fucking nuts. So I looked up some fun facts about 1893 when I saw the title, and I'm telling you, I thought this was the most boring year ever because I didn't get anything good. I saw there was a big crash in the stock exchange. New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I'm shocked they had a stock exchange in 1893. No idea. New Zealand became the first country to grant all women the right to vote, which we're very proud of. We are the pro-feminist side of Barstool. We said the Chicago office is clearly the misogynistic side now. But they also mentioned that in this episode, right? There's like the women in the background, like protesting for their also mentioned that in this episode right there's like the women in the background like protesting for their right to vote in this episode oh that's
Starting point is 00:20:08 right yeah i didn't even put the two together and but like nowhere did i read mayor of chicago assassinated at the world's fair the world's fair yeah jesus christ that's like something that would happen in a batman comic i am just so happy yeah it is something that's exactly something that would happen in a Batman comic. I am just so happy. Yeah, that's exactly something that would happen. Like that's when the Joker and the Riddler like team up and they're like, we're going to do this. They assassinated him with like a giant boxing glove or something. I'm so happy I didn't move out to Chicago and, you know, put my whole life on the line to go to a place where they just assassinate mayors at World's Fairs. Shout out to the New York office. Another win for us here boys and girls yeah that's right i also kept forgetting that was funny the ghost clock where they're like there's a ghost clock oh
Starting point is 00:20:53 yeah but i kept forgetting that they were in 1893 so like when timely was doing his whole presentation and he just like lit a light bulb i was like yeah i was also expecting something mind-blowing yeah i was like oh yeah and they kind of reveal like he's kind of a con artist yeah he's like yeah he does get it because he has the book so he can like put things together but it's not like he made like a beautiful crazy invention yeah he doesn't really understand what he's making so i have a lot of electric or lightning bolts everywhere and i was like is this supposed to be cool but then i remembered it's 1893 so for them this is like the greatest thing that's ever been i thought the room
Starting point is 00:21:34 was gonna light up with like fluorescent light bulbs and everyone's gonna be like whoa but no i thought we were gonna time travel a little bit i bit. I was really excited to go down and it didn't. By the way, questions to the panel here. Do they do World's Fairs anymore? You know, I was thinking about this the other day. I don't think so, because we went to Knoxville for that pop punk show. And PFT was rave. He's like, you got to check out the Golden Sphere or something.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I'm probably getting it wrong. But they have this big like it looks like a big gold disco ball in the middle of knoxville and it was from the world's fair and it's like they love it there they're like that's the fucking world's fair thing so i don't know but the world's fair seems like a cool like inventors on the cutting edge like that seems awesome i it sounds awesome it's a great name world's fairy of everyone. It's kind of like the Olympics, but for nerds. And technology, which is still cool shit. And I kind of love it. By the way, the Knoxville World's Fair, I'm pretty sure it's a Simpsons episode where Bart and Mila Soma get a license.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And they drive out there with Nelson and I believe Martin. And they're like, oh, we're going to go to the World's Fair. And then they get there and it's from like 40 years earlier. So everything is just old and decrepit. I didn't realize Knoxville still loves the shit out of their uh their world's fair though and new york city had a big one that i think howard stark is a big part of like that's where he starts he starts showing some of the shit off there you're right i just i just googled it and it says um that they changed it now they're called called World Expos. And the most recent World Expo took place in Dubai.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So they're more – they took place globally rather than just in the United States. This makes sense, yeah. Yeah. Starting in April 2025, Osaka, Japan will host the next World Expo. That'll be sick. The Japanese, if you look at their like billboards they're so far ahead of america it's insane yeah why don't we let's can we take the name world's fair and like just sponsored by barstool and just invite people to do like oh i feel like there's still billy
Starting point is 00:23:38 football doing science uh experiments and stuff there's still juice to be squeezed in the world's fair name like if you if i told you right now there's a world's fair coming to manhattan in 2026 are you like oh fuck man there's gonna be javits center yeah javits center exactly i tell you world's expo you're like uh marketing like your eyes glaze over a little bit yeah i'm out on that you're getting brochures at the expo yeah by the way the way, one panelist on My Mama's Basement this week went to Comic-Con this year at the Javits Center. Wasn't it, Clem? It was Gia. First Comic-Con ever. First Comic-Con ever.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It was like nothing I've ever seen before. It was really – I had certain expectations, and I feel like they definitely did meet them you know I knew everyone was going to be dressed up I knew it was going to be a big crowd but it was so cool because I didn't realize that people sell like their own art and their own toys and whatever and and their own comics and all that stuff so it was certainly very cool i don't think i did it right at all me and bob from lights camera barstool we just kind of bopped around and got some food and looked at all the vendors and stuff we went to like the autograph section and we saw um david tennant i think he's oh yeah from doctor who from doctor who he's also Hu Yang in Ahsoka, the droid, voice of the droid. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And he's Barty Crouch Jr. in Harry Potter. That's right. He is in Harry Potter, yeah. Yeah. But – and the bad guy from Guardians of the Galaxy, the newest one, he was there too. And it was super fun. High Evolutionary? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Nice. Catherine Langford from Quantumania so there was a bunch of Marvel people there and it was super cool but it was overwhelming as hell I mean there was so many people there and these people are so dressed up it's crazy and it's like
Starting point is 00:25:37 they're like the Beyonce of Comic Con everyone's stopping them for pictures and they have bodyguards and it was crazy but it was super super fun i would definitely go again next year i just think i need a bit more of i need a map and maybe someone who's more experienced although you know what i've gone a couple years and the the experience you just described is pretty much my experience every year you go you look at vendors you walk around you get some food at the cafeteria, you buy some stuff. Did you buy anything? Oh, I bought so much.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I bought – I think I spent way too much money, but I got an Anakin Skywalker. Yeah, so this is the Comic-Con experience you're describing, yeah. Yes, and I got a Pikachu Squishmallow. I got an Appa from Avatar Last Airbender, like little toy. Oh, I saw that, yeah. Yep, and Sailor Moon t-ender. Oh, I saw that. Yeah. Yep. And Sailor Moon t-shirt. Nice. Nice.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yeah. Was there one costume, too, that was, like, the costume of the year? I remember a couple years ago, me and Clem went, and everyone was fucking Morty. Or they were Rick from Rick and Morty. Okay. Was there one thing that was, like, overwhelming? Like, not really, honestly. The ones that I remember is there was a lot of Marvel, obviously.
Starting point is 00:26:51 A lot of Lokis. A lot of Lokis. Okay. And I didn't recognize this person, but Bob knew them from the comics. Chainsaw Man? Oh, Chainsaw Man. It's a big anime. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of Chainsaw Men running theaw men just the chainsaws as your head yes and they're scary yeah i was like oh my god what all over them yeah yeah yeah so that those are the two that i noticed the most loki's and chainsaw man i went with you once bob i think and i just wish it was easier to shoot videos at it's just a little too chaotic and crowded. And then, if you're someone that has a good outfit, you can get a video or a little interview with
Starting point is 00:27:32 them, but then they just get hoarded. And then, I mean, Miss Minute, you're talking horny. The people that are going after any girl dressed up in any kind of outfit, it gets kind of awkward, and I'm just like, I just don't feel right around here. So Man on the Street, not as easy as you would think at the New York Comic Con.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I don't know about the San Diego one, but the New York one's kind of... San Diego is probably worse, to be honest. I've never been to San Diego, but in terms of foot traffic, yeah, I assume it's even crazier. Yeah, I wanted to do some sort of video, but I got too nervous. There was just so many people you got a good video of just bob from lights camera bar still hugging a big like anime i don't even know what it was and then i showed it to the punk group like i was like guys you gotta see gooch hug this like anime thing and caroline goes oh my god i used to work for that
Starting point is 00:28:19 company and i was like what that's wild man yeah i don't know what those things were, but I was kind of jealous after. I was like, damn, I kind of want to give it a hug. It seemed very peaceful. He had the biggest smile on his face I've ever seen afterwards. He was the most wholesome video I've ever seen. There's a really funny, going back to Loki, a really funny back and forth when they see like Odin, Thor, and Balder the Brave. And it's like three wood carving wood carvings essentially of these old
Starting point is 00:28:47 norse gods and loki's like that doesn't even look like them that's ridiculous this is a gross generalization and balder nobody even knows balder mobis is like oh i know balder balder the brave everyone knows him right this was great and we actually sort, we didn't break Balder the Brave News, but we tried to break some news on the podcast months ago when Multiverse of Madness came out. It was revealed by us that Daniel Craig had auditioned, or not auditioned, but been cast as a role in the movie. We thought it was Mr. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And due to scheduling, he had to drop out or something like that. So we said Daniel Craig was going to be mr fantastic then our guy heavy spoilers came out and broke the news that wasn't true at all daniel craig was going to be balder the brave and when that fell through they cast john krasinski as mr fantastic in his place so there could be a balder the brave in the mcu on the horizon they tried to bring him in already if they cast daniel craig that would be a hell of a like a list uh actor to cast in that role to like star opposite hemsworth i don't know if you're going there though because they also just showed us roy kent as hercules so i don't know what the next thor thing is going to be
Starting point is 00:30:01 which honestly both good choices. Half brother and close friend to Thor. That's Balder the Brave. Good name too. Good name. Balder, yeah. Kind of looks like me in this picture. I don't know how Daniel Craig, this picture of Balder the Brave looks like me that I'm looking at here. So I don't know how me and Daniel Craig are going for the same role, but hey, I'm a fan just because of that alone.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. I don't know anything about him he wears he wears like purple and yellow right am I thinking of the right thing Clem yes yeah handsome very handsome guy yeah it looks just like you um we meet Victor Timely now we do get the scene from Quantumania when we saw this as a post-credit scene in Quantumania it was like the best part of that movie first of all and in the theater me and clem were in the imax lincoln square like the best imax in the in the city this felt so huge and cinematic when they turned to him and he's like i thought you said this guy was terrifying he's like he is that i didn't even know if this was going to be a
Starting point is 00:31:02 scene from loki or if they filmed it like for the movie it felt like movie big and it felt that way when i watched it here even though victor time when he was like a goofball and kind of like you know tripping his way through the stage and through his presentation he doesn't really understand what he's doing like we said before but afterwards a bunch of guys are trying to buy it from him they're like throwing money at him some of them don't believe him some of them are trying to auction it from him. They're like throwing money at him. Some of them don't believe him. Some of them are trying to auction off things. One of them mentions this could be like, I'll go in with a partnership.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And he states, I don't do partnerships. Huge part of this episode, huge part of Kang's story and Victor Timely's story. He has to run away from these guys eventually. And I liked the scene where he runs onto the ferris wheel cart and then like crawls out of it and traps them on it just a great like very 1860s silent filmy where you could picture that happening in like a charlie chaplin movie or something or buster keaton um and the whole look of the ferris wheel biggest ferris wheel i've ever seen i don't know if they actually made one that big for the world's Fair, but it was great.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I'm going to look it up, Bob. 1893 Ferris wheel. See what kind of Ferris wheel we were dealing with. The carts they had, it looked like you could fit a full room on each one. Yeah, they were huge. But in 1893, before 1900, they had this? Are you guys Ferris wheel people? No.
Starting point is 00:32:22 No? I like a Ferris wheel. Well, you know what changed my mind about ferris wheels is spider-man no way home or far from home sorry far from home when they go on a trip when they're in london or wherever they are and and his buddy and the girl are stuck at the top yeah no i that's a nightmare feel for me i i don't like heights in the first place. And I don't like how Ferris wheels, you go one and then you're up and then one. And then finally you can go the full way around. I don't like getting stuck at the top.
Starting point is 00:32:53 No, I'm not a Ferris wheel person. I'll go one step further, Gia. I loathe Ferris wheels. I loathe them. You loathe them. Yeah, because it's like rides should be you get on, you have some consistent fun, you're off. But it's the stop and go, stop and go. You get a windy day.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It kind of like just does not feel good. And the Ferris wheel tricks you. It's like, oh, Ferris wheel, nice, safe, happy ride. No, no, no. It could be a scary ride, a little too scary for my liking, especially like the open air ones. Now, these, the ones that they were on were pretty cool. It's almost like a gondola, right? It's like a three-size that they were on were pretty cool. It's almost like a gondola, right? It's like a size gondola.
Starting point is 00:33:25 That was cool. So, and plus like if you go to ones in the city, I know what these kids are doing in Ferris wheels and it's not a place I want to be. I'm not going to ones in the city. I'm not doing that, but I went to California a couple of years ago and we did the,
Starting point is 00:33:39 uh, is it the Venice boardwalk or something? The Malibu. We did one of the big peers. I think it's Santa Monica. We did, we didu? We did one of the big piers out there. I think it's Santa Monica. We did the Santa Monica pier. We went on the Ferris wheel there.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I like a Ferris wheel because I don't like roller coasters. And it's my excuse when it's like, oh, you want to go on a roller coaster? I'm like, no, but we could do the romantic thing and go on a Ferris wheel. You know, it's just my excuse. And then it's like, yeah, you get a cool view of the ocean or something. But like, yeah, you get a cool view of the ocean or something. But like, yeah, and I'm not going on a Ferris wheel in New York City in a parking lot of a TJ Maxx or something. I'm thinking of He Got Game.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I believe there's some tomfoolery being done in He Got Game on the, I believe the Coney Island Ferris wheel. Yeah, no chance I'm going on the Coney Island Ferris wheel. The Chicago Ferris wheel, which there's a Ferris wheel, right? It's, what's the name of that little spot they have on the water there the i think it's some sort of a pier i don't i'm not going on that one either i feel like there's some like i don't know what these idiots at barstool are doing on the ferris wheel on their days off oh my god white socks dave on a ferris wheel yeah no thank you this this one was it it looked a lot like the london eye this ferris wheel which is like very
Starting point is 00:34:50 high tech i thought i think it is too i would do the london eye the london eye is great uh there's a great uh concert from the pandemic where nobody could do concerts obviously so people were doing like live stream concerts in unique ways. So Liam Gallagher decided from Oasis, he's going to just go on a sail barge and do a concert sailing down the, the river Thames. And he gets to the, he gets to the eye and he just says into the microphone. He's like, hello.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I nobody gives a fuck about you. I'm not intimidated. And he like keeps going. He likes to start talking shit at this Ferris wheel It's very funny By the way, speaking of music Blink-182's album came out today Everyone needs to be listening to that
Starting point is 00:35:33 Because it's fucking awesome It's amazing 17 tracks, not one is bad Midnight release? Was it one of those midnight releases? It was What were you going to say, Clem? I didn't realize I just looked it up the original
Starting point is 00:35:46 ferris wheel sometimes referred to as the chicago wheel was designed and built for the 1893 world fair that gives this ferris wheel that we watched last night a little more panache this is the ferris wheel this is the ferris wheel and then everything else is based on this ferris wheel so i'm kind of like i'm giving a little respect to this one and i think if they kept ferris wheels like that if i don't know if they mixed it up at all because it wouldn't have made sense if he was on a little two-man ride but going on with a bunch of people i'm giving i'm tipping my cap i do not loathe giant ferris wheels like that one last night also your initial 1893 research was just trash that's trash i went to like five
Starting point is 00:36:28 different sites and not one interesting i'm looking at births deaths nothing interesting happened in 1893 except for everything interesting happened in 1893 all in chicago no less yeah sylvie shows up to kill victor timely and she corners him on another little Ferris wheel thing. Ravonna and Mobius at the same time have a little reunion where he's like, kind of like, what the fuck abandoned all of us? What happened there? And she's completely almost numb,
Starting point is 00:36:56 shut off to it. She's like, nope, I'm doing what I need to do. Like we're not partners anymore. I don't know why you're concerned with what I'm doing. Um, Sylvie eventually does that blast that they did last week when they held hand and she was like don't think about it they did do
Starting point is 00:37:08 the blast she does the blast not as strong as last week because she's not holding loki's hand um and it kind of scatters everyone so miss minutes becomes the stay puffed marshmallow woman she becomes super huge and terrorizes everyone as a big ghost very fitting for halloween time i was like right, this is a little Halloween vibe we get out of Miss Minutes. And Timely brings Ravonna back to his place. Now, here's where shit starts going off the rails in this episode, where I was like, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:37:34 I said out loud, I was alone in my apartment last night. And I said, is this a fucking love triangle? No way. Because he brings her back. Miss Minutes shows up. She starts getting jealous right away and it's like i think miss minutes is is trying to get her on and she was she absolutely was they start telling him about the tva and everything and he's like the little nerd sitting in between
Starting point is 00:37:55 it's that episode of g is gonna appreciate this clem probably won't it's that episode of drake and josh when drake is sitting between the two goth girls and they're both trying to talk to him in detention he's like i don't know what to do right now yeah that's hilarious that's a really good um comparison i i thought it was interesting when sylvie came because she was kind of annoying me because i was like oh my gosh you have to just listen to Loki for five seconds. Like I understood where she was coming from because, you know, sometimes like she's so dead set on her mindset of who Kang is and what he can do. So she's like, I'm not going to listen to anyone. So that scene was so frustrating for me. And then, yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:37 to have this weird, I did not see that coming. Obviously I knew that Renslayer and, and timely maybe would have some sort of connection because she loves he who shall remains. He who remains Kang, the Mortis, the Beyonder, Nathaniel Richards, everyone. Maybe have a crush on every version of him. But yeah, the whole Miss Minutes thing just made me feel super uncomfortable. She's just annoying as hell.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And she comes off as like this sweet Southern lady, but she pisses me off. I think I'm starting to like, I like Miss Minute being completely absurd. I will say that. Like I said, this is nothing I would have seen in a million years. I kind of want her to steer into it too.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I don't want to, I'm going to, it's going to sound weird as I say this, but it would be funny if she was like, come on, Kang, you want the little hand job or the big hand job? Like she kind of lead it to the clock jokes and everything here.
Starting point is 00:39:43 We got clock clock. That's the hashtag. Let's just get like, let's just make this a weird ass show and have some fun i thought you were gonna want boobs i thought you were gonna say you wanted to have boobs i don't want her to do the old nala eyes which is the thing for as much as white socks dave takes the heat for it i think like half of barstool has tweeted out something about nala eyes at some point in their life. Oh yeah. The, the,
Starting point is 00:40:06 from lion King. Yeah, exactly. And I love that. She got like legitimately thrown into horny jail. She got thrown into her. She did. Yeah. It was like enough.
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Starting point is 00:41:43 Cause then it gets to a very weird place now with missed minutes. Also, I got to take... Okay, so let's... This is something I like to do, especially we do it on the House of the Dragon podcast. And I was with you, Gia. My notes are just, Sylvie's pissing me off. Sylvie's pissing me off again. Sylvie
Starting point is 00:41:59 pissed me off last episode. Are you Team Sylvie or Anti-Team Syllvie you have to put your stuff you have to put your like cap on now you have to ride or die for sylvie or against sylvie from here on out so i want us to be a podcast that is very firmly for or against her everyone go your own way ga you're up first pro syl anti Sylvie I'm pro Sylvie okay no no I'm also you explain
Starting point is 00:42:29 I'm also pro Sylvie but go ahead Gia yeah no I think she's just very headstrong and she doesn't really think before she acts but like I feel that like I find that she's a bit of a relatable character obviously I'm not a fucking variant of the Lord of mischief or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:49 God of mischief. How do we know Gia? How do we know? But I, I feel like she. What's what's what she thinks is best. Like she, she's not a bad person. I think all these Lokis, especially like our Loki and her, they're very misunderstood. And I don't know. I just feel like she has the best intentions at heart, but sometimes she's just very headstrong, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I think that's exactly right. Because not only are she has she has the best intentions, those intentions are right. In the end, we need to kill all the fucking gangs. That is for sure what everyone needs to do. So she is right about that. She's just going in with the Leroy Jenkins method where it's like we we might need to chill and use these gangs to kill some other gangs. There's a method to all of this. She doesn't want to follow that because she knows in the end, you got to kill all of them. And she's just freaked out about that.
Starting point is 00:43:52 So in the end, I think Sylvie will for sure. She might even like sacrifice herself because all Lokis are, you know, uh, doomed to be like heartbroken or whatever. I could see her sacrificing herself to like kill the final tank. I could see her being that important to the story, but I am pro Sylvie. I take it by Clem asking us that question. He might not be pro Sylvie.
Starting point is 00:44:15 No. So this is my thinking. I think it's so obvious to be anti Sylvie that I think I have to be pro Sylvie. Cause I do think at the end, we're going to be like this whole time. She was and you guys both raised some very good points like our goal we're losing like the forest despite of the trees or whatever the stupid phrase is like the goal should always be kill all the kings they're not good no matter what even if they're just a bunch of old-timey
Starting point is 00:44:39 dudes from the 1800s that are fucking con men at the world's fair it doesn't matter like we have those guys are no bueno and they're a fucking problem then i'm also like well we got to save ob so we got to take them to the tba that's a good thing that feels like it's going to be a bad thing in the end so it's official i'm planting the flag for us my mom's basement officially team sylvie and we're riding or dying with her for now on because listen there's going to be highs there's going to be lows me and nick we ride for uh what's the name of the guy in uh you don't even remember i don't remember but we were riding a diet there were some very rough moments for us riding for him but there's also yeah and if you think if you think
Starting point is 00:45:19 about it like not to jump too far ahead but know, she had the opportunity to kill timely right there and then, but she's, you can tell that she still has like a heart and a conscious and like feels deeply and like empathizes with people. So, you know, she could have just like Rob said, Leroy Jenkins had just stabbed him right there, but she like has empathy towards him, which I think makes her like more human and which makes me like her more i and also it took loki years to come around you know like with it in the end this is loki so it's it's going to take us a little while to come around
Starting point is 00:45:56 to and maybe a new variant of loki but in the end this might be like all loki's turn good i don't know if that's what what it is, but this Loki's pretty fucking good. And the Loki that we know, the Tom Hiddleston Loki, he's like telling her she's wrong. He just got into this TVA game. She's been in this shit forever, man. She's been grinding, jumping from timeline to timeline. I think I trust her
Starting point is 00:46:18 more than the dude that was just trying to kill the Avengers like an hour ago in their universe, right? I'm still riding with sylvie and fuck it you guys have me even more i think she's my number one character in the show now because sylvie jenkins i just wanted to go sylvie jenkins and just start swinging that sword blasting her powers so all right i can see you're doing it we're riding with fucking sylvie here on out kids get ready because i'm telling you there's gonna be some highs there's gonna be some lows but we're in it together i love it they once again get chased out of this cabin
Starting point is 00:46:48 and victor says we got to go to wisconsin that's where like my real lab is so victor ravona and the third wheel miss minutes go on to wisconsin and they get on this boat once again ravona and kang getting a little romantic you're getting vibes from the conversation they're putting down. But Miss Minutes shows up right in the middle of it. And they start talking to him about how he got the book when he was a kid, the TVA handbook, the guidebook. And Ravonna's like, yeah, I gave it to you. And Miss Minutes is like, I basically gave it to him. Like you gave it to him like a mailman.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Give us like a letter. They're really fighting over this guy. Ravonna, eventually she's like, I really They're really fighting over this guy. Nirvana. Eventually she's like, I really can see the man that you're going to become, which I'm like, does she think like every Kang did she lose her Kang? And now she thinks she's just got to meet a Kang and like almost mold him to
Starting point is 00:47:37 become the Kang that she was in love with. I don't know, but she says, I have high hopes for this partnership. And as soon as she said that, he stopped holding her hand. You could tell, like, something went off in his mind. He doesn't like that word, that partnership word. Yeah, so interesting because, you know, he's like, I don't do partnerships.
Starting point is 00:47:54 But then what's his deal with Miss Minutes? Exactly. He basically is, like, looking with Miss Minutes, like, hand around her, like, no partnerships, right? The two of us yeah like yeah very strange he puts her off on a boat and he says goodbye to her just because she mentioned the the prospect of a partnership which this guy talk about commitment issues yikes miss minute knows not to say the p word around him i love the x-rated mix minute i'm sorry I'm sorry, guys. Does he have that from earlier? Is that like his parents abandoned him as a kid? Does he have that ingrained in his DNA from a prior Kang somehow?
Starting point is 00:48:31 Like, why doesn't he not? Why does he not like partnerships? Because prior we heard Ravonna and him on the voicemail or whatever that was when Loki's listening to it. Sound like they had a fucking partnership. Yeah, I don't know. It's maybe when he was young like something happens maybe someone stole his idea or or something like that stole an invention or something but see that like edison style yeah i think that's when i kind of started to notice oh like even though this guy is this weird quirky seemingly innocent person he's very quick
Starting point is 00:49:08 to send a woman on a boat alone by herself you know so he still has that shot of him yeah on the boat like watching her drift away that was the first time where victor time a little menacing yeah totally totally and i was like okay you know what i felt bad for him but at the end of the day this guy's still a villain. Made me feel bad for Ravonna. I don't even like Ravonna. I know. And he's interesting where he doesn't kill her, right?
Starting point is 00:49:34 So he's not like pure just evil. I'm just going to murder this chick, which would feel very odd in a Marvel show, by the way. But it is like he's just going to just kind of drift her off. I do think this is also like planting the seed of when all these Kangs get together and they're like, we're going to, you know, join hands and fight this set of Kangs. And then they're all just going to be basically backstabbing each other. I think it's it's basically just telling us about the Kang character that they're going to just be basically trying to kill each other.
Starting point is 00:50:00 And that's how he who remains will be the last one standing, Cause like the Kang in their soul is just not meant to partner up with anyone else, even themselves. That's, that's going to be the name of the, the first Marvel rock band album, Kang in their soul. I like that.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Miss minutes at the, at the lab tries to straight up convince Victor timely. Like we should date, like I should be your girlfriend she puts herself on the mannequin head she's like why did you ever give me a body she was an ai who played chess she got feelings she's uh what's the name of uh plankton's uh lady karen she's karen she's karen from spongebob in this moment she's like, I deserve a body. What's going on here? And he freaks out.
Starting point is 00:50:47 He just turns her off. He's like, what the fuck is going on? Click. It's mute. Yeah, that was wild. I felt I didn't feel bad for her, but I just felt so uncomfortable because. So uncomfortable. She just she was desperate. And, you know, your life as an A.I.
Starting point is 00:51:04 clock, like no one's ever gonna take you seriously and like especially now that she has like feelings and thoughts and whatever so she can love and you know want men but it's like you're a clock even you saying that she could love and want men we're talking about a clock like you gotta look at yourself with a mirror so when she's like oh like you could put me in a human body i kind of was expecting maybe some sort of a new a new character to come and he like gives miss miss spinnets like a real body which i thought would have been interesting still could happen i guess yeah still definitely could happen but yeah i, I was like, oh my gosh, this poor woman is desperate.
Starting point is 00:51:50 She's desperate. Yeah. Yeah. So if they did this like halfway through season one of Loki, I might've been like, all right, I think I might be out on this show because this is fucking creepy and weird. Even though like, that's the thing,
Starting point is 00:52:05 like we're living in the real world, like AI being self-realizing what it is. And like one part of it, is it going to murder us all? The other side of it is like, if it wants love and just all the like the basic human necessities. But yeah, if this happened in season one, I would have been like, I think I'm out on the show. Miss Minute has done enough crazy shit
Starting point is 00:52:22 and she's kind of growing to what, I don't think any of us thought she was going to go in this direction so i kind of love that she's going this direction i just like there is a border that as much as i love the absurdity of it just don't cross the line like we all know what the line is going on that mannequin the line was then like she was looking at the line when she did that i'm like i don't need to see this right now yeah like how how does that work how does i i don't even want to know forget i asked the question keep moving along robbie i don't want to know yeah it's one thing when it's like anna de armas in blade runner when she's like oh like you give me a real body because she's like hi and you know ryan gossett's like well i was gonna say yeah timely needs to like
Starting point is 00:52:58 develop the ex machina level like get alicia vikander and then maybe we're talking but right now what is he gonna put her on one of those like cloth mannequins? Yeah. Just carry her around. Like no good. He can't be doing that. Tell you what is good. C4 ultimate energy.
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Starting point is 00:54:45 That's right. Into the C4. So when he turns Miss Minutes off, Ravonna reveals herself. She's standing behind him the whole time. She was frigging paddling her ass off in that little boat. Yeah, damn. I can't believe how fast she got there. She literally met him there, essentially.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And she's like, what are you having, girlfriend troubles? And steps out with a fucking pruning gun. And he's like, do you have in girlfriend troubles and like steps out with a fucking like kind of like a pruning gun and he's like whoa whoa whoa careful don't do that don't whatever loki and mobius show up at the same time and then like two seconds later sylvie shows herself this guy he needs simply safer ring or something back then as well because everyone got at his place without him knowing and now we're in the basically the same position we were in at the world's fair where sylvie's like should i fucking kill this guy loki's begging her no we need him for the temporal loom we need his aura he's the only one who can
Starting point is 00:55:35 save the aura because it's all you know about to explode and shit and eventually like gia was saying sylvie has a heart and she i think maybe realizes she's showing off maybe tva tendencies to just like start pruning people he left and right she's like all right and she lets them go with loki and mobius to the tva they go through a time door and sylvie takes miss minutes and ravona to the end of time where we get a gnarly shot of like the decrepit body of he who remains literally rotting and becoming a skeleton and they start talking about like secrets and i know a secret miss minutes says and we get a tease for next episode i don't necessarily know what that secret could be but this was a creepy ass way to end the episode
Starting point is 00:56:22 that shot of he who remains just like because the skeleton all slumped over. It was fucked up. Yeah, it's creepy. I have a question. Did Renslayer have like the same intentions as Loki and Mobius? Like, did she want to take him back to the what was her end goal with timely? I can't really remember because I seemed like they had the same. I don't know what her goal is.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It seemed like they had the same goal because Renslayer mentioned something about, you know, that she needed him to save the TVA or something like that, but she just doesn't want to work with Mobius and Loki anymore. I don't really i i feel like she must have a branched because the branch timeline she must have a branched goal in some way where there's a part of her that i think wants to have that he who remains spot the way she's talking about i've been keeping everything together and timelines and i know everything while everyone else was you know running around like chickens with their heads cut off i was the one running shit at the dva i think part of her
Starting point is 00:57:29 wants that chair i think we're almost maybe going towards a game of thronesy like who's going to be on the throne at the end right like who's going to be on that he who remains chair at the end right but it doesn't make sense because you know she probably needs kang to achieve that goal so i feel like that does make sense but yeah i guess i was just confused what what her objective is i just i don't know if she even fully knows either because it seems like when when he remains dodd they put into place some kind of contingency plan where they're like all right hand the fucking tva guidebook to the young victor timely like she might be following orders that she got from kang even before he died
Starting point is 00:58:17 yeah i so ravonna is kind of like sylvie where i don't know if I, I was 99% sure I didn't like her this entire time. Then I'm like, am I going to like her by the end of this season or the end of this series? And I'm kind of like, there's a chance now? I don't really know. I know. I feel the same way, Clem. Like something about her this episode made her seem like she's actually not bad. I just feel like she doesn't trust loki and mobius but like i don't really i don't know yeah clearly after kang and we in the comics they're they're like lovers right they like they big time big time lovers and i think they they do have a story i'm
Starting point is 00:58:59 not a hundred percent on this but i think they have a story where it's like she's in love with every version of him but i think at some point along the way every version of that like it goes wrong and she maybe dies so that's like part of the kang heartbreak i think is that like he can find the love but it never goes right maybe that's why he doesn't like partnerships that makes sense and i think that's going to be kang's like big flaw that we're going to learn over the years here. What do you think the big secret is then? What do you like? Do we have any theories on that? I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Like what if the big secret is that he who remains was a fucking, he was a fraud. Like he wasn't he who remains. He who remains is still alive. I don't know. That probably isn't going to be it, but that's the first thing that came to mind. Well, she said the secrets about Ravonna, right? She's like, I know a secret about you. I know a secret about you.
Starting point is 00:59:46 That's right, yeah. It's her real name, Clarence, and she grew up with parents with a real nice marriage. Like, is she fucking going to de-rabbit us here? Like, I don't know what to make of it. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's like, I feel like it has to have something to do with Kang. Like, I know a secret about you. Like, you'll never be able to escape your love for him or something you'll never i know i know you're trying to get
Starting point is 01:00:07 that chair i know you want to kill kang do you think maybe she was the one who helped loki remember when loki needed help oh i know you pruned loki yeah if it wasn't a future version of loki if it was ravona behind him oh that's decent. I like that. I like that. I'm just trying to think so we can put theories explained Easter eggs somewhere in the title. Trying to get the YouTube algorithm on our side. Ravonna never had her mind wiped. She remembers everything
Starting point is 01:00:36 and she's pretending. Yeah. You never ate your pie, right? Something like that. I know you didn't eat your pie. Oh, you know what's funny? This just triggered an old memory for me. My older sister loves Lifetime movies, like the worst Lifetime movies,
Starting point is 01:00:56 and she just thinks they're so much fun to watch. I remember the worst one ever growing up was about this trainer who would, if her clients weren't following following her strict tb12 level orders she would kill him she'd just be like i'd fucking kill him and she there was a scene i swear this triggered a crazy memory for me where the trainer walks past one of her clients eating a key lime pie there's no key lime pie she fucking kills her God. Yeah. I'm sure somebody could find that. I don't know if you can actually. I don't know how accessible Lifetime movies are.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I don't know if there's the Lifetime channel or something or a streaming service, but there's for sure a movie where that happens. And like me and my sister would quote it for years. No key lime pie. Yeah. Well, that's the opposite for, for a Renslayer. Exactly. Exactly. Like you didn't eat your key lime pie
Starting point is 01:01:47 with a knife. There's key lime pie at the Avengers campus now. Key lime pie is very important. At Disney? Yeah, it says at Disney they have the key lime pie inspired by Loki. They don't just throw that shit on the menu
Starting point is 01:02:02 for like a two minute scene. There's something going on. There's something going on with that key line. You didn't eat your pie. She has it like in her pocket or something because she's
Starting point is 01:02:17 pockets of pie in it. She's going to force the pie into her mouth. You have to eat the pie. By the way, I know they did the little collab with McDonald's. They did the sweet and sour sauce, like had a new logo on it from Loki or whatever. They should have done a key lime pie like the apple pie. That would have been way better
Starting point is 01:02:33 as a collab. Oh, yeah. I am a big proponent of this Bob, because I was like, how am I going to find key lime pie? I'm like, I wish McDonald's just released it. That would have been great. The sweet and sour sauce, I was like, oh, is it going to be a variant we're going to have another sweet and sour sauce i think it was just the same one which i think they just put a new wrapper on it yeah put a little extra sweet or a little more sour or one of you know one or the other it would
Starting point is 01:02:57 have been perfectly good or if it was random each time that would have been good like those harry potter jelly beans sometimes they're gross god of mischief sometimes the sweet and sour sauce is gross i mean maybe mcdonald's doesn't want that where they're like oh like a grandma shows up once sweet and sour sauce and they're like make sure you check out the god of mischief this thursday night on disney plus what it's like oh i'm like puking because they just ate that they should have had the loki sauce then where it's like you could you could choose to dip your toe in that water. The Loki sauce. They just had a green sauce to put some green food coloring in and make it look weird.
Starting point is 01:03:30 They had a sweet and spicy jam. They just came out. They just tried it last night. It was tremendous. I hate jam. So I saw that and I was like, oh, fuck, I'm gonna have to try that when we try every item on the menu. So I'm with you, Bob. The word jam is fine if you're doing it like on
Starting point is 01:03:46 like toast or something for breakfast for a sauce it doesn't feel right it's just they they didn't realize jam does not stick with americans that might be something the british are doing at their mcdonald's that don't fly it's the same exact it's just maybe a little thicker it tastes exactly i think like the rick and morty sauce that came out a few years ago okay i tried that i remember yeah the mambo sauce however gia people are like my mind's gonna be blown by it was sold out by Exactly. I think like the Rick and Morty sauce that came out a few years ago. Okay. I tried that. I remember that was decent. The Mambo sauce, however, Gia, people are like, my mind's going to be blown by it. It was sold out by me though. Have you had the Mambo sauce? No, but I watched someone do a review of it on TikTok and he said that it was extremely spicy. Oh, I like spicy. The Mambo, the Mambo sauce.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah, Mambo. Mambo number five. This is Mambo number six. It was Mambo number sauce. That's the dad joke. And we come. Yeah. Did you guys hear that story that came out a few months ago that Stephen King played Mambo number five nonstop in his house and his wife almost
Starting point is 01:04:36 divorced him because of it. Out of all the sick and twisted shit that Stephen King has ever like thought of or done making your wife listen to Mambo number five, which is a bad. He just loved it and he like he said he liked the dance version of it he liked all the different variants of it too and i kind of love that about him that he would do something like that well he might have said this before um my school once did a fundraiser my high school where like until we hit a certain amount of fundraising every time the bell went off for in between periods who let the dogs out would play in full on the loudspeaker
Starting point is 01:05:11 so annoying like it was truly like kids were it was a good idea to get kids to donate because kids were like i want this to stop here's 20 like it was crazy yeah yeah but it was a good idea yeah oh i also have to just because we mentioned the pie our boy kfc friend of the program he said the pumpkin pies at mcdonald's are out of this world and i'm not a pumpkin guy usually i don't like pumpkin either me i actually i had a very long-winded rant on the rundown this week with you about how apple should be the uh the new flavor uh pumpkin though kfc said it is tremendous. And he like kept talking about it to the point.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I was like, I might just have to try it just because it's that good. So for anyone looking for their mambo sauce, get yourself the pumpkin pies as well. Cause KFC, a big thing, you know, big snack guy,
Starting point is 01:05:57 snacking off co-host signs off on them. Tenfold five balls. I believe he gave him five balls. Whoa. Five balls. That's not to be taken lightly all right that was loki season two episode three the episode is called 1893 another banger from the loki yeah loki and company squad um can't wait for next week we've only got three more left so this is halfway mark through loki kind of sucks it's that, but also every episode is like 56 minutes,
Starting point is 01:06:25 51 minutes. I love that. The first thing I texted Clem last night, it was like 56 minutes. Take notes. Filoni. Every episode of the soak. It was like 28,
Starting point is 01:06:33 32, 36. Give us these full episodes. It feels like a frigging movie. When you give us a 60 minute one. Gia, thank you for joining. Once again,
Starting point is 01:06:41 we'll have you back next week. And Clem, thanks for being here as always. Pleasure. I was going to say pending the Phillies, but we can make it work whenever though. again we'll have you back next week and uh clem thanks for being here as always pleasure i was gonna say penning the phillies but we can make it work whenever though so we'll see last week we also had crazy travel and shit i'm not traveling as much next week all one thing i did note for the penultimate i'm gonna be in cancun so we're gonna have to figure out something there the finale the one before the finale. Oh, okay. There has to be some good key lime pies in Cancun. You have to give me a real one.
Starting point is 01:07:09 If I find one, I'll try one, yeah. Alright.

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