My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 311 - LOKI SEASON 2 FINALE WITH CLEM AND GIA

Episode Date: November 10, 2023

Robbie, Clem, and Gia discuss what may be the SERIES finale of Loki - where the God of Mischief finally discovers his Glorious Purpose. Plus, they preview The Marvels based on first reactions and talk about some unfortunate Captain America: Brave New World rumors. #Loki #MCU #MarvelStudios ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3C and Barstool Sports in a very special Loki Season 2 Finale Edition. I hope it's not the series finale edition, but I think there's a decent chance it might be. Oh my god, it was incredible. incredible i mean we were all texting like i hope it's good i'm nervous whatever is there an echo a little bit yeah it might be me okay is that better i think it's better okay cool you want to just want me to just redo it yeah yeah let's just

start from the top hello and welcome to my mom's, presented by 3G and Barstool Sports, and a very special Loki Season 2 finale edition of My Mom's Basement. We're hoping it's not the series finale. I think there's a decent chance, based on the way this whole episode played out, this could be the series finale. And if it was, they're going down as like a perfect show in my eyes. But I want more from these characters. I want more from this show.

Obviously, I'm joined by Gia and Clem here. Bob, Bob, I'm sorry. Bob, Bob, Bob, I'm sorry. I think your mic might be off. Is it? It sounds weird right now. You're fucking right. Yo, this is the show. We're just doing loops of the same thing over and over again.

For real. Oh, God, yeah. Ugh, all right. I'll do that again. Unreal. We may just have to keep it. And then we just, I think we have to just keep it as is. All right.

We're going to keep it. We're going to keep it. We're doing loops here. We're trying to get the show going. And we're apparently Loki season two finale-ing this finale. We keep going back. We got to go back further to when before we joined this little call, and maybe that'll finally put my mic on.

How are we feeling about this finale? Clem, you look like a dope with the horn on your head, but you look great. I like it. I am the Clem who remains. I am the Loki who remains, the mischievous timekeeper, whatever you want to call it. I'm happy.

I'm happy with what we got. It was perfect. I think we got enough of the bad reviews coming in on Twitter about the Marvels coming in with all the good reviews of Loki to be like, all right, we're in a good place now. We'll be in the bad place this weekend. We'll review that next week. But all in all, I wanted to say this last week,

but I didn't want to sound like an idiot, which I usually do sound like anyway. I was like, is this the end of the series? Because it feels like we're going towards the end of the series. And after last night, it felt like it was the end of the series. I think Gia's with me on that one. Yeah, no, I was confused because I feel like shows usually make a big deal out of like,

oh, this is the series finale, like this is it. But they didn't say anything. But I did see a tweet from about like one of the writers eric martin he said that they have no plans for a third season which was kind of kind of shocking but after watching this episode i was like okay like there's not much that can go from from here just based off only loki as a show you know yeah it's interesting too because it's a universe where even if loki's done we're probably going to see these characters again in a movie secret wars deadpool 3 or something so it's like bittersweet if it is over

it's perfect and they did two amazing seasons of television that really stuck the landing on the finale both of these finales season one and season two were arguably the best episodes of the season that would be amazing i want more of it but if loki is back the next time we see him as secret wars and it's in this massive like moment where he defeats kang or something or if it's going to be dr doom in the end that would be awesome as well like the spot where they left loki off is so good that it's like it's it feels like spider-man to me the last spider-man no way home like they put peter in that horrible like spot where it's like we're obviously gonna get more spider-man we want to see more spider-man but that was a really good ending like the ending that they actually delivered was great

think about every mcu show we've reviewed bob and how we felt at the end of every finale where even if the show was good we're like man i just wanted more there felt like there was something else they could have done or if they had made it either longer or shorter it would have been so much better and this for both seasons of loki was like nope that was perfect they fucking crescendoed at the perfect time and they left left us wanting more, which we knew we were getting more after season one. Season two, it feels like if we get a Loki season three, it'll be in like 2030 if the world is still around at that point. If Marvel is still around at that point, to be honest with you. Also, I tweeted this take.

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15 to take 15 off your. Must be 21 or older to purchase. Please use responsibly. I said, am I crazy or is Tom Hiddleston as Loki in the realm of Tony Stark, Robert Downey Jr., Steve Rogers, Chris Evans, Hugh Jackman, Logan, Wolverine? I think it's like those four might be the Mount Rushmore of long-term actors playing comic book characters. I mean, Tom Holland's Spider-Man, I think, is close based on how much we've seen him go through the disappearance, him coming back after the snap, him going through everything in No Way Home. I think it's close. But I think like those four kind of have perfect character arcs throughout movies even movies that weren't necessarily great like uh we've got the dark world and the first door for loki uh hugh jackman's got like x-men origins

wolverine and stuff even in those movies they play the character perfectly it's like that was the perfect casting yeah no i completely agree with that i feel like the character arc part of it is a huge part of it because with tom holland spider-man like he does go through so much but i feel like from the start to the beginning he's always kind of been the same like nervous quirky kid in a way and he's like just starting to get mature by the end of the last movie yeah yeah i feel like this ending is going to set him up to kind of like have to get his shit together because i feel like in no way home if anything that's what he was like the most or no way home is the most

recent one right yeah he ricks the universe to get into college yeah exactly i feel like that's like his least mature or most immature he's ever been. So, yeah, no, I completely agree. And Tom Hiddleston, he I was thinking that last night, too. Like, I can't really think of any other movies or shows that he's in off the top of my head. But he just absolutely crushes this role as Loki. Like, it's crazy how good he is. And it's crazy that my favorite Loki content is like post end game Loki

content. Yeah. I never would have thought that seeing end game going into theaters and I'm like, yeah, no resurrections this time they killed Loki in the last one. And apparently all of my favorite Loki stuff is the stuff that came in on the branch timeline because Hulk decided to take the stairs.

Speaking of which, shout out my guy, Tony Stark, for being the guy to send Hulk down the stairs. Someone say this series is a result of my guy, Tony Stark. So you're welcome, Cap fans, a.k.a. Robbie out there. Pretty much is. The elevator is too packed. Tom Hiddleston, though. First of all, credit to us, Robbie. We said this when Loki got announced. We're like, Hiddleston though first of all credit to us robbie we said this when loki got announced we're like hiddleston makes it you know he he's been so good as loki he deserves to have

his own project because we didn't even know what tv was going to look like in the mcu right and to be honest with you this has clearly been the high watermark for all of it uh you like even if you think about the mcu the early MCU, and then even to Endgame time, I guess before Infinity War, Loki was doing a lot of the heavy lifting for the villains, because that was the biggest criticism of Marvel back then, was they didn't have

any good villains, and then Thanos came and snapped away all those criticisms. But Loki was so fucking... He was like the Magneto of the MCU. Like, I guess Loki's going to have to be the big bad who's like fucking everything up like he was he was the big bad in avengers which was obviously a huge movie every single thor time it's like oh loki's doing his dumb shit again and he's just always like been in the in the scenes but you never like hated him you're like ah like it's just loki being

loki i think that's a credit to hiddleston and the way he plays it. So is there a chance here? Like could this roll? And this is obviously a question for Gia more than Robbie. I mean, if things go sour with our boy Travi and, you know, Kelsey, maybe Hiddleston get round two with Taylor. I feel like he's on the up and up right now. He has a green trending arrow pointing up right now. I think he might have a shot here. Am I crazy?

Listen, I always was a fan of them when they were together. He used to wear the iHeartTS tank top. They were very cute. Yeah, he seemed like he was really obsessed with her. So I would love, listen, I love Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift right now, but if that ever happened in the future, I would support as well. Well, Clem, did you know who he's married to in real life? Oh no, he's married. I hope didn't just uh piss off anybody here i found this out this week he's married to the villain of the marvels i mean i haven't seen the marvels i'm gonna say red arrow pointing down for her after this i don't even know who it is i don't even know what this villain is i don't know anything about the marvels other than what they spoiled before Secret Invasion ended. That's the only thing I know.

Yeah. I don't think she's getting a ton of praise, but I don't know if it's her fault. I've seen a ton of negative things towards the villain, but it's not like she's getting a performance. It's like the villain is very forgettable like a phase one mcu villain okay engaged engaged so we're not breaking up a marriage here it's okay engaged engaged can happen on a crazy weekend in vegas what gives a shit about engaged this is nothing so all right listen i don't hey i don't want to speak ill of travis kelsey kelsey who's my keeper for like five years of fantasy i love the man as much as Taylor does. I'm just saying potential.

The door is open for our boy. I'm just happy for him. I also wanted to bring this up. We always joke about George Lucas saying it's like poetry. It rhymes. Loki fucking did that. They took that seriously. They put it into a show the way that season one rhymes with season two.

And the end, you know, has to do with time and going back. I think heavy spoilers went in and every episode has like a link to where when Mobius got pruned in episode four, Ravonna got pruned in episode four. When episode five had a big cliffhanger, episode five had a big cliffhanger. They were so perfectly linked together that again like Gia said Eric Martin came out and said yeah we kind of conceived this as two halves of one book we wanted to tell one story with two seasons hopefully we'll get him in the basement because the strikes are over now the screen actor strike writer strike everything's over so you don't got to stand in solidarity anymore you could talk about everything and Marvel learned that quick I saw like 10 videos

immediately like oh I'm so-and-so from Loki and I'm thrilled to be able to talk about everything and marvel learned that quick i saw like 10 videos immediately like oh i'm so-and-so from loki and i'm thrilled to be able to talk about this it was great like the second the strike was over i saw k hu kwan i saw brad everyone being like we want to talk loki even saw the guy that played ezra and ahsoka he's like hey you guys still want to talk about ahsoka that's amazing i feel bad i called obis suss yesterday just because i saw that well it came out of fucking nowhere bob but i know you're promoting the episode i forgot about the whole strike thing so now it makes sense but i'm like don't you be throwing sweet obi's face on my phone right now out of nowhere it feels like there's some fucking chicanery going on looking back it was a strike thing not a suss thing. Again, egg on my face for the 1,000th time. I'll completely own it here.

Well, I was with you, Clem. You were? I was with you with the whole OB with sus thing, and we kind of got proved wrong. But, Bob, you said it perfect. It rhymes. It's like one constant loop. And even Glorious Purpose was the title for the series premiere,

and it was the title for last night's potential series finale so i'd love it was or boris eating his own tail or whatever it is exactly yeah you sounded like you studied quantum physics for centuries there let's get into the episode we begin with the reverse marvel intro you've been really praising unique marvel intros and this was a good one the music music was different, obviously. They kind of sounded like they reversed the score, and they go through it backwards. They run through the Victor Timely death scenario a bunch,

because obviously Loki now has these powers to time slip in and out wherever he wants to go. And we see Victor Timely turn into Kenny from South Park. It's just he dies over and over and over again. And every time they showed him turn into spaghetti, it's okay when like the suit, you see like all the brown strands. Every time they get to his face, you see like red and white strands, which I think are supposed to represent like blood and bones. That was a little brutal every time. Yeah.

You could also see like there was a second where you could see like his skull i don't know if i was just hallucinating that but i think you're right yeah it was it was a lot for sure i i was laughing every time it got to the point where it was uncle the uncle ben you know scenario where it's like i've seen him i i feel like victor timely now let's see it's uncle ben is like one uh batman's parents are probably two who else is like just loki is up there unfortunately loki's died a lot but our boy victor timely i my notes here he basically became the bottomless pasta bowl from olive garden he was just getting uh spaghetti's non-stop sent to your table and but it's like 99 of me's like oh that poor guy you

know whatever even though he's a con man and the one person he's like that's fucking king though so fuck yeah yeah and i also uh had spaghetti for dinner last night i texted you guys i thought that was a nice low-key finale appropriate meal yeah spaghetti with meat in there too so it's like people you know blown up into spaghetti that's what we were eating oh oh speaking of meals i forgot to tweet this out i had my first slice of key lime pie last night oh no not so i went so just by coincidence or very quick tangent on the story sienna had a sleepover last night for her birthday had a couple friends over and aj constantly haunts her friends so i had to take aj out for the entire night i get him from school we just go out for the entire night i go to bounce he bounced for an hour and

a half on trampolines and then the restaurant across the street has key lime pie and i'm like i have to fucking try key lime pie my review of key lime pie i'm gonna probably i'll probably get some hate from the key lime pie people out there it's exactly what i expected tangy it it was not green though it was like it would look it was like a light yellow and i'm like i felt kind of robbed i want that almost fake looking key lime pie yeah the like i will say the graham cracker crust and like the whipped cream did cut enough of the tang i can understand why people like it it's just not my cup of tea personally what's the consistency like it's it's a meringue kind

of a thing you know i don't think i'd like it. You're going to have to try it though, Bob. I'll try it if I come across it for sure. For all the time, Bob. You got to try it for all the time. Always. So Loki realizes he's got to go back earlier. He's like, all right, if I go back to us in this room, no matter what, Kang's getting turned into spaghetti.

So he goes back even earlier. They do another Groundhog Day inspired scene where he has to like introduce victor timely and ob again but he does it super quick he's like hey you guys both wrote the same book it's great you guys are gonna be friends and they do their quick introduction and loki's like how long would it take me to just learn all the physics that i need to know he's like i don't know it could take you centuries and just a great comedic uh like cut to centuries later and he comes back and he knows everything he needs to know he's like telling them what they need to do on the computer

he types it in he's finishing their sentences for him you can tell he's just fed up with this reality that he's living over and over again i wanted to point out this as a groundhog day fan they said centuries later i immediately thought oh groundhog day supposed to take place over a crazy long amount of time the movie groundhog day was originally meant to take place over 10 000 years that was there was a line in the script where um the main character forget his name says like phil phil kines oh yeah he says like i've waited 10 000 years to tell you this or something and then that was removed from the script by harold ramus who says it was meant to take place over about 10 years

so loki obviously he did he put in the work he did the work needed to get all up to date on quantum physics before he becomes one of the most powerful gods in all of the marvel universe if not the most powerful i thought that was a fun little tidbit for you when i saw the c word appear on the screen not the bad c word but centuries i gasp i'm like this fucking guy you know loki who will always take the quickest way to get to the throne do whatever is possible he's like nope i'm gonna spend centuries learning quantum physics and doing whatever's necessary and And the fucking mad lad did it. The mischievous lad. Do you think he had off days?

Do you think for those centuries he did like six days quantum physics, one day I'm going out to the club for me? I mean, going to the club with Obi must be a fucking like trip, man. Oh, yeah. Put Obi on your shoulders right away, like walk through the club, play chicken with people. That's Obi at the club for sure. And when he was doing the whole just like finishing their senses, we've all been there before.

When you've played the same video game level a thousand times and I'm like, I'm skipping the cut scenes. I'm just going to just hit every button when I know I have to. And I just got to beat this goddamn level. That was our boy Loki, except like a zillion lives hung in the balance from all that. So Victor presses the button. They send Victor out and he presses the button at first. Nothing happens, but then he kind of hits it again.

It's like a Joker in the dark night when he's like clicking the thing, trying to get the hospital to blow up. Eventually it works. Or so we think he comes back into the room, which I thought he was gonna like turn it to spaghetti right before he got back or right before the doors closed or something but he makes it back he says pumpkins which is apparently his catchphrase whenever he does something good oh pumpkins that sounds like yeah it kind of sounds like he's like messing up

like oh pumpkins i know but someone said it's like a a pat on the back one of the was it um he's such awesome he's i don't know how to describe him besides using the word like cute like he's just like i would use the word guy yeah because he's so nerdy that like you kind of want to like protect him and i just i like him i really i really like Victor Charlie I have a soft spot for him yeah I I do too I but however I have to admit this is my dumb broken brain I was like pumpkins I'm like you sus motherfucker what is pumpkin because I thought it was some sort of like I'm like is the green goblin pumpkins are orange and miss minutes is orange and everything connects now yeah oh man um and then the loom still explodes after all of that loki going back for centuries and learning quantum physics he watches the loom explode which

at that point i mean like i'm surprised he even went forward if i spent centuries learning quantum physics for that to not work i'd be like all right i guess the universe is meant to explode and i'll give it up yeah honestly same i feel like there's nothing in this world i mean saving the world is the most important thing that you can do centuries i don't i think it would take me longer to learn quantum physics yeah at that point i would just be um you know what i tried at least i tried i loved this show but there was moments of it that felt like doing algebra. I was lost halfway through this episode.

I'm like still not 100%. I'm like 97%. You still see a little bit of space in the loading bar. I'm still not there about what happened, and I never will be there. I've come to grips with that. I'm fine with it. But when that fucking time loom exploded after everything we got to, i just gave like what 10 minutes of my life during that part of the episode and then whatever the last few hours this season i'm like i am fucking fed up with this shit this is such bullshit i can't even imagine what loki felt after spending

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I was happy to see more He Who Remains in this season because I think he's my favorite Kang variant out of all the ones we've gotten. He's the most interesting to me, most like perplexing and captivating when he talks and he's smiling and he's kind of laughing along you don't know if he's on your good side if he's on your bad side and sylvie keeps killing him now he turns into kenny from south park where it's just over and over again this scenario does not seem to work where he can stop sylvie from killing he who remains and make it out okay and he who remains knows this at one point loki's like why are you not fighting back and he

just like hits pause on this remote control loki's like what the fuck he's like yeah like you don't think we've done this before then loki kind of flips it on him he's like you don't think i've done this before and he who remains hits him with the most disrespectful thing i've ever heard in my life he says like oh yeah i know you're gonna there's plenty of me out there plenty of kengs out there loki's like you don't think i'm gonna stop killing him he's like yeah i know champ the way he called loki champ oh my god it made me sink into my couch like i was a little kid i was like oh no he just sunned him no totally robbie i noticed that too he kept calling him like champ kiddo like buddy like yeah he was just patting him on the head like he was nothing yeah just totally degrading him i totally noticed that too i was like wow he is just little guying with a smile he's like, yeah, that's nice, Champ. Yeah. Oh. Where – I was trying to think, like, where does Champ fit on, like, the, like, low-key, like, shit-talking words?

Like, disrespect. So you have Champ. You have, like you said, Kiddo. Chief is a big one. Dave didn't like when Steve Che hit him with a, hey, buddy. That's just Che, though, which is, like – which is all you need to know about Che is that he uses that as like his go-to line for people. There are so many just little like, hey, bud, I'm not your friend guy. I'm not your guy pal.

That's it. That's not my thing. Like all those little – I like saying pal to people. I hope no one thinks I'm – I like pal. Yeah. You know who's a big pal guy? Coley's a big pal guy.

Coley and Karabas. Maybe it's a big Boston thing. They both just left Barstool too. That's funny. Oh, those fuckers. Maybe it's a big Boston thing. They both just left Barstool too. Oh, those fuckers. Maybe it's a negative thing. I'm not leaving, guys. I'm not leaving either. I'm not fucking leaving.

But like, so He Who Remains, I think we said this last episode, that's the best Kang we have by far, right? Yeah. And that was the, I remember when we saw it last season, we're like, holy shit, this guy is awesome. I'm going to say it now we're safely buried in the middle of the podcast where the aggregators aren't listening trying to cancel us i know dr doom has been like with you know bandied about a little bit when he's on jonathan majors is fucking awesome like that's the one takeaway i had from this episode i like victor Tomlin. I like fucking He Who Remains. I like He Who Remains imitating Victor Tomlin, who he also plays, but he doesn't sound exactly like Victor Tomlin.

Just good fucking acting. I'm also the part where it's like if they have to fucking cut him, I don't give a fuck. Let's just move on from it. But man, like, goddammit, he really fucked this up. Also, though, we mentioned there was somewhat, I think, in the Variety article that was like, I've seen the Loki finale and Marvel is totally fucked when it comes to Kang. What was that all about? Because I watched this kind of with that in the back of my head. Like, oh, the post-credit scene or something at the end of this episode is going to be like,

Kang is looming over all of us and we cannot escape Kang. I didn't get that vibe at all from this. No, me neither. Like, I didn't watch this and go, and we cannot escape Kang. I didn't get that vibe at all from this. No, me neither. Like I didn't watch this and go Marvel's fucked with Kang. I was like, Oh, like he's as prominent as he was before the show. He's a little like better as a villain in my mind.

Cause we got to see a different side of him and Victor timely. And we got to see different variants and stuff like that. But yeah, I don't think they're fucked if they want to go forward with Kang. I think they very easily can with the ending of this Loki episode episode if they want to go forward with doom i think they also very easily can yeah council of kang's was much more of a you're fucked kind of moment because it was such a it was like kind of the probably the best part of it man if we're going to be honest right so like i i don't understand that thing unless you're just like jonathan mages does such a good

job it sucks that you're gonna have to yeah you don't want to get. Unless you're just like, Jonathan Majors does such a good job. It sucks that you're going to have to leave him. Yeah, you don't want to get rid of him. But yeah, they're not fucked. No, this put me in the opposite direction where I was like, all right, Marvel still got it. They still got something in the can where they could deliver us an amazing, like near perfect season of television

and give us that like old school Marvel feel. Marvel would be much more better off. Let's all agree that if kang was like a being that could take shape in multiple different people multiple different races if hypothetically speaking that hypothetically if there could be like infinite kang's that would be oh that would be a blessing in disguise for marvel they they could really use that yeah so loki sees an equation on the chalkboard on the little blackboard and he realizes i fucking studied quantum physics for centuries i'm gonna change the equation so he slips back

into the time theater episode one season one and he talks to mobius kind of asking him for advice on what to do he's like i don't know what to do here if the universe is at stake and mobius tells him this story that has tones of would you kill baby Hitler? Where he's like, yeah, there was this, you know, time agent. And we saw this kid winds up being him and Ravonna. We find out. And the kid caused the death of, you know, 8000 people or 800 people, something like that. 5,000 in in some kind of war black sea type thing.

And they're like, did we kill him? And he hesitated. Ravonna even hesitated. But then I think Ravonna did it because Ravonna, you know, she's, she's Ravonna.

She's a bad guy, but it's the, would you kill baby Hitler? If you had the opportunity, would you kill baby Thanos with the rope? Whatever Don Cheadle does in that game. Yeah. And it's, it's a good kind of pause in the episode i know we're literally pausing things in the episode and reality and whatnot but this feels like the episode takes a deep breath for one

second and like talks to the viewers about like loki's decision making and what loki actually wants to do and where he is morally at this point. Because again, it's interesting because Loki's become such a great character in the MCU. And I almost thought about saying, is it like him and Thanos neck and neck is Marvel's best villain? But you almost can't count this towards his villain stats. This whole show is him becoming a hero.

Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like he's totally grown out of that just a good guy yeah yeah and i think this even further proves that he's such a good guy because he doesn't even like he has a conscious like he has to go to mobius and ask him like is this the right thing to do i feel like if this was loki and like or Loki right before, I guess, because the, with the changing of it in end game, but he wouldn't have even thought twice. He'd be like, oh yeah, I'll kill whoever to, to win.

And he, he, he has to go to Mobius and he, he goes to Sylvie too. And he's like, yeah, what do I do? Get her to sign off on her own death. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, i'm not giving you like my permission here what are you it was hard for team sylvie people this episode oh i know it's just like it was girl i thought he was gonna kill her i definitely thought there was gonna become a

point where he was gonna have to make the tough decision and it was kind of that like loki's are destined to lose thing where like even if you save the universe you're gonna have to kill the one person you wanted i thought they were gonna go that way which in a way like by the end of the episode is there a way you could say he lost because it's not what he wanted oh yeah but it's what he has to do yeah he had to do yeah no totally and i i just was just thinking to myself like oh syl, Sylvie, come on, girl. Like, just chill for one second. Like, you don't have to kill him. I was thinking, could Sylvie learn to time slip and go back into her body because she's a Loki?

Yeah, I know. I know. It's so frustrating. As, you know, a fellow member of Team Sylvie here on the podcast, we're going to just have to take this L and just hope like hell that at the end of Secret Wars, we'd be like, see? Without her doing what she did, this all would have been possible. And like, there's probably gonna be another couple of Tony Stark moments where like one of our beloved heroes dies,

but that was collateral damage of what Sylvie did. But don't worry. Like all the other billions of timelines are alive because of our ghost. Sylvie, we definitely have to hold this out. This is this episode. And I like it at all. And I also want to say

this the baby hitler line or the baby hitler like conundrum i guess you could say i always was like man that's some fucking dark thinking bob robbie you remember around the time oppenheimer i watched like a lot of world war ii stuff yeah i killed baby hitler without even thinking twice i'm letting anyone know if you have a time machine and you want to go back and have someone kill baby hitler this is the guy for the job i'm gonna do it i've decided i'm 100 i'm killing baby hitler i'll kill him any way you want to drowning don't cheat away all right we're gonna stop we're gonna end there because then i saw that they can't even uh did you see that thing about the simpsons where they said they're no longer homer doesn't strangle bart anymore yeah and then times have changed they said and then the writers the simpsons where they said they're no longer Homer doesn't strangle Bart anymore. Yeah, times have changed, they said.

And then the writers, the Simpsons writers, responded, and they said Homer couldn't be reached for comment because he was too busy strangling Bart. So they then turned it around and said we're not doing anything. I'm not fucking leaving, they said. But I will kill baby Hitler. That should be the big takeaway from this. I'll do that. I'm the

Debo from Friday. I'll do the hard part of Dark Knight where I throw the remote out the thing except it's baby Hitler going into the water by the way do you think we're going to see Sylvie again I hope we do but if they're not doing a Loki season 3 I don't know where she fits into the fold

necessarily unless it's an ensemble scene in Secret Wars that's what I was thinking of I don't see her coming back until which is good for a great character i'm like damn like i guess you're not gonna do the love story with her and loki because he's he's gonna be at that citadel for all time always yeah us a team on team sylvia i think it's better she stays in the background for now because i do feel like she's kind of like a bull in a china shop she would just fuck shit up right now in the nicest way possible i say that she caused this whole thing she really did i rode with damon in house of the dragon and he didn't

cause as much nonsense because he actually would like do good things and then do bad things she just did bad things and was like no i'm not undoing all the bad things i did i know they're bad and they can basically wipe humanity, the world, the universe off the fucking map. And she's like, yeah, not doing that. God damn it.

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said that they used game time to go to the iowa hawkeyes game they used our game time promo code so shout out you unnamed iowa hawkeyes fan i'm sorry i forgot your twitter handle so i know it's very i'm gonna call him very interesting yes as gia mentioned loki goes and talks to sylvie outside of time and space you know everything's still kind of spaghettied and he's like i think i have to kill you like to save the universe i think this just has to happen i've gone through the centuries i've gone through all the scenarios she's like all right I ain't signing off on that. Like, I'm not giving you permission to go kill me. Do what you got to do, I guess.

And he goes back to the Citadel, but then realizes he knows what kind of God he has to be. So he goes back to the moment where Victor Tomlin is about to walk out. And that guy struts his ass out onto that walkway with no suit, no nothing. He's just taking it. and his clothes start ripping off i'm sure the ladies gia may be included we're like oh my god what's happening here and oppenheimer silly and murphy scene but then he gets robes in this amazing suit up take the throne stepping up these like invisible stairs way the music in this moment it was very game of thrones to me it felt like loki's theme in an epic game of thrones way everything that built around this and his new horns which are built from the same like marble that the citadels built for with the

gold in between it and everything this is i think one of the most epic scenes in the mcu i don't use that word often outside of 2006 the word epic but this was epic everything one of the most epic scenes in the mcu i don't use that word often outside of 2006 the word epic but this was epic everything about it the music gia you said full body chills i agree the whole time it was like chills oh my god this whole series was we now realize building to loki becoming arguably the most powerful person in the mcu he's the guy that's gonna hold everything together and he holds these timelines together like tree roots and branches and then they kind of like tilted on its side and you see he's forming what is like the tree of life which is a huge thing in norse mythology everyone's pointing out like asgard is connected to midgard throughout the

tree and everything the the visuals of this everything about it i thought this would be directly from a comic or something i texted local comic expert jake bass and he's like i don't think that specific like grabbing the branches and stuff is from a comic but it looked so it looked like art just the whole thing looked like art it was it was incredible i i always kind of thought that loki's horns were a little cheesy yeah in this scene i was like okay that's sick like they look so cool yeah so everything about that was was really cool and shout out to my brother because he went after last episode he did say like i think they are gearing up for kang to be like the next or sorry gearing up for Loki to be like the most powerful god whatever and I looked over at him I was like you were right and we were just like oh my god it was crazy it was very cool I was I was confused at what he was doing at first I thought that he

was like trying to give life back to the branches but then i realized that like he was like collecting them all and then then when they when they made the branches into like his cape oh that was awesome so sick so sick that was so cool yeah i got really worried too because i'm like if he dies here like i always felt like loki was the one dude obviously we couldn't afford to lose because he can't time slip anymore if he just boom and we've seen loki die enough to know it's not outside the realm of possibilities in any given moment. But yeah, just kind of seeing that whole costume come back. The word you use is epic, Bob. I'm going to use the word glorious, though.

It was all glorious. I was actually bummed, too, because I got the nice TV and I couldn't use that because Sienna had friends with the nice TV. So I had to watch it on the crappy TV. I got to see this thing on the OLED just fucking popping, man. It must be incredible. Just all, you know, you said the music was awesome. Even the, like that, that song they were playing,

the whole like flashback scene or whatever it is. They nailed it again. They nailed that season one. They nailed it in season two. And our little fucking Frost Elf is, you know what I compare it to? Like I'm sure people people there will be of course everyone there's it's comic book nerdery there's gonna be people are gonna be upset that like loki is the most powerful man in the mcu right now he holds the crown it's like when my boy mankind won

the wwf title back it's like hey very unexpected yeah he was an underdog for his whole life and he you know he never thought he'd make it but when he makes it it just feels right that he's there and let's be honest like fucking kalisi has every fucking avenger power right now flying around somewhere in the universe well that's the thing it feels earned like this feels like we took two seasons to get to this point he studied physics for centuries he's lived for centuries now thousands of years with like amelia clark and secret invasion they were like here's an injection you're now the most powerful person to ever live and it's like whoa what the fuck that was just quick we didn't expect it we didn't even know it was coming by the finale with this it was all

felt like this was a plan it felt like they had a whiteboard for loki and then they planned it all out before they started doing it you got me you know jim no i was just gonna say my again shout out my brother he said that um like people in the mc people that love the mcu would kind of get mad because loki was such a powerful person in the comics and they never like really did him justice and so now like they're finally like giving him what he deserves which i agree because like i feel loki's the god of mischief i feel like that just is a such a wide realm of what you can do with your power so usually just use it for like party tricks too yeah yeah so it's like oh look at this i'm here yeah to like see what he can

actually do and i feel like this was a long time coming not even with this show but just in general with loki he's had the i think the best character arc if you know in marvel so far i i think i'd say him tony stark and chris evans and or yeah tony stark yeah yeah yeah yeah because tony stark i'm biased because that's my guy but the fact that he ends it with i am iron man and it kind of goes all the way back to the beginning that's and then obviously willingly sacrifice himself the goddamn cutest kid of all time and he's no just saying goodbye i'm gonna start crying because of that but art like you said loki was almost treated like a lowercase g god in this entire you know not even series but the whole entire universe. And now he is like capital G bold italics,

underline like a thousand font. He is basically the fucking God of the MCU. Is that a fair way to say it? This is like art imitating life, life imitating art. He's holding the whole MCU together. He literally is outside of the MCU, inside of the MCU. He's holding it all together right now for us thank you Loki for making sure the fucking loom

doesn't explode and we get horrible project after horrible project if they were smart they would have moved the Marvels up to last week so that all the everyone had the bad taste this episode would have got the bad taste out of their mouths and they'd be like alright Deadpool 3 is coming up like Disney is almost impossible to fuck that up as long as

they give it an R rating like Ryan Reynolds will not fuck that up so you know you'll be fine and Robbie I'm even going to give you that so I gave my wrestler analogy for Loki becoming getting the powers of the God and that's mankind Khaleesi I'm going to call her Khaleesi I know her name's Danny in the Game of Thrones we call her Khaleesi Amelia Clark

no her name's Khaleesi her getting those powers that's like Andre the Giant winning the title and then giving the title to Bobby Heaney. That was not earned, and it was wrong. And they had to do a whole tournament about it to get the strap on the right person. So that is your Sports Involvement of the Week. Yeah, I was going to say, hopefully our listeners are well-versed in 1990s WWF. Basement Boy of the Week last week was fucking Macho Man.

True. Or Miss Elizabeth. So at least I'm making it for the base of Boy of the Week, that analogy. Some people are speculating that this makes Loki the god of stories. There's a comic book where he becomes the god of stories. I like that. I also like the god of timelines, I think would be cool, or the god of time, anything like that. I would like a new title on it.

You don't have to say it in a show. Just like Eric Martin. Tell us what's he the god of now? Because it feels beyond mischief. And I got to know this. And this is going to be one of those. Is it because of it? But it happens after.

But then because it happens after, it happens before. The green of Loki's magic is also the green of the time stone. So is it one and the same? Is it just a very happy coincidence? Is the time stone. So is it one and the same? Is it just a very happy coincidence? Is the time stone green because of Loki? Or is Loki green because of the time state? It does line up with the green.

And you texted me, yeah, last night. You were like, what color is Loki's magic? I was like, green. You were like, what color is a key lime pie? I thought Loki was going to make his magic turn into key lime pie so that everyone eats it and forgets who they are. Very, very, very off base, obviously, by me. I didn't see him taking every branch of every timeline and then turning it green. So it's out there, Bob.

I don't know what the fuck's going on. Him and Doctor Strange are now kind of connected in this weird way. I don't know what's going on. And Mobius requests his file. This is kind of like it's not a montage, but the ending of the episode is kind of montage-y and like checking in with all the characters. Mobius requests his file. This is kind of like, it's not a montage, but the ending of the episode is kind of montage-y and checking in with all the characters. Mobius requests his file. Obi gets to publish a second edition TVA handbook.

It's like yellow instead of orange this time. I was happy for him. Ravonna's in the void, and I forgot about her for a second. Again, I feel bad for Ravonna Renslayer. I'm like, oh yeah, she's in the show. She's in the void with a pyramid behind her possibly indicating she's about to meet rama tut which is another kang variant who was like an egyptian god who is i think reed richards 20th great grandfather so like 20 people

down the family tree for reed richards he'll become reed richards which by the way fantastic forecast announcement should be any day apparently because they're allegedly cast and they were just waiting for this screen actor strike to be over with i keep falling for for shit on twitter all the time i fell for one today it was the always sunny one oh rob same i live with rob mcenary and then i was like oh my god yeah i fell forney? And then I was like, oh my god. Yeah, I fell for that one this morning. It's so annoying. Because you see Glenn Howerton as Reed Richards

and you're like, alright, I can see it. And then you keep reading and you're like, oh, nah, fuck. Why can't we put that in a little three-second frame somewhere? I am in for that and I want them. For Always Sunny as the Fantastic Four? Do it in Deadpool 3.

That's going to be multiversal, right? And like, you know, Ryan Reynolds and what's his name? And Rob McIntyre? He's Mac. Just call him Mac. Yeah. D is D. Mac is Mac.

They're married, which is weird. It always blows my mind. Yeah, that is. Charlie's married to the waitress. Who's Glenn married to? Or he was married to someone, I think. I don't know. Who's's married to the waitress who's uh glenn married to or he was married to someone i think i don't know who's glenn married to uh her name is jill she was a guest on that oh she was just a guest she was just a guest my wife said die hard she listens to the always sunny podcast which is apparently a very good podcast for people that don't listen i've heard that they just sold

that radio city like five nights or something it's crazy crazy. Really? Yeah. That's Alex Cooper's numbers. It is timely. Gets never gets his book. They never dropped that handbook off for Victor timely. So I'll never become what he becomes. Hopefully Sylvie goes back with Don. I'll say Don here because Mobius goes back and watches his old life in Cleveland.

Now I was kind of talking about this with my girlfriend he'll never be able to get back into that body right like no he just has to watch his life from afar that's why i was confused because with brad he goes back into his timeline kill himself to be the only brad like yeah i he must have because I thought that when you go back, you kind of just go back into your body, but that's not the case. There's two of you now, so obviously. Or could he be going to the moment where, I don't think this is the case, but the moment where he got pruned by the TVA,

so when the TVA prunes him, he's there? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. That's actually kind of a good. That part is, this is what I mean when I'm like, this feels like I'm doing algebra. My brain is turning in ways where it's like, chill out, dude. You're not supposed to be thinking that much. You know, the gif of the kid where he's like counting on his finger.

That's me when I watch scenes like this. And listen, Don's a nice guy. He's from Cleveland too. I guarantee he'd kill the fuck out of his other self and just leave him in a river or something and be like, I want to be with my kids. I'm praying to God we get the moment where his wife comes back from the snap because I believe

that that is canon now in my brain. She comes back from the snap and then those two little fucking bastard kids actually shape up a little bit because they are little bastards. They learn how to behave. They are bastards. People were speculating that he's a variant of odin and his kids are loki and thor because the one kid wanted a snake and the one kid wanted a dog and they were troublemakers going after each other and they were like the snake that they mentioned the snake because loki the snake and ragnarok i don't think that's the case but i

think it's a nice parallel that like at least yeah we'll make our kids I don't think that's the case, but I think it's a nice parallel that at least he has control maker kids. I don't think Mobius is Odin, though. I'm pretty sure that's not where they were going with that. That wouldn't make sense. It would just kind of be cheesy, I feel like. Yeah. These three fucking Norse gods have variants in Cleveland where they're just

doing nothing. Come on. It could be a nice nod to the story and not actual variants that yes from the asgard you know fucking like heaven world to fucking no offense to cleveland i don't want to give cleveland any more ricochets we were pretty tough i like cleveland i go to cleveland a couple times a year it's nice but you know i don't think norse gods are chilling there if they have their option of anywhere even ever anywhere in ohio i think they're going to Columbus. Is it nice, Bob? Is Cleveland nice?

Is Cleveland nice? There's areas of Cleveland that are nice. Say another word other than nice about Cleveland. Fine. Is it fine? Is it fine? Cleveland's fine. I wouldn't say nice.

It's fine. Columbus is nice. Cleveland's fine. Man, Cleveland took another shot. Have you ever been to Cincinnati? What's Cincinnati then? Let's round it out. Cleveland. grows on you there we go it is yeah look at that i love that um and then the the episode possibly series ends on just a shot of loki and he's just he doesn't have any lines. He just has this face and that face says glorious purpose,

just great visual of Tom Hiddleston as Loki on the throne at the end of time. After everything he's been through, after everything we've been through with him, we've hated him. We've been against him. We've been on his side. We've been on the side of his variant. It was maybe him, maybe his girlfriend maybe himself we don't even know this was i think the perfect ending for season two perfect ending for the

series if you want to make it that and maybe we'll see loki again in secret wars i don't think this is the last time we've seen loki i've seen some people say do you think like this is tom hiddleston's goodbye i don't think so i think as long as you're not killing someone and even if you do kill someone sometimes they're coming back but i i need to see like a dead body for me to even start thinking that way yeah i think he's definitely gonna come back i feel like he plays too much of an important role now yeah they can't just be like oh he's gone like what he's controls everything and also just think in the back of our mind he he's holding everything together all the time. Yeah, exactly. Not to reverse a little bit, but I love that last line from Mobius too. Sylvia was like, oh, what are you going to do now?

Or where are you going to go from here? He's like, I think I'm just going to stay here and let time pass. And that whole montage, like, really? I don't know why it made me so emotional like from the start of when victor charlie didn't get the book all the way to the end where mobius is seeing i was like i was crying and i was like this i think it was the music and you know loki had to give up his life and whatever and his friends last episode we found out like he does everything for his friends. It's about the people around him and shit. It was so cute. And the fact that I love Mobius so much,

and the fact that he's lived in the TVA his whole life, and time doesn't pass. He doesn't know his past, whatever. And he finally could just like, it's like the Thanos. Now I can rest. And now Mobius can finally just let time pass. Hop on a jet ski. Get in that river.

And it's kind of a beautiful way to look at life. He's just going to relax and let time pass. People are so focused on the hubbub and where you're going to be in five years. It's like, just let time pass. It's nice. Man, I really would have loved to see him on that jet ski the last year. I know know in the water i was thinking that and that's why in my tweet people were like calling me out they were

like why'd you call it near near perfect as a show and i was like i never saw mobius in the water on that jet ski i would love if they're like loki what are you gonna do tonight it's like i'm gonna go watch timely pass and he just keeps watching victor tomlinson over and over and over again the so i think i just came up with all right so that was our the wrestling was our sports entertainment analogy of the week my this is a new one the sports analogy of the week loki season one the way it ended that was michael jordan after the first three rings he retires goes to baseball don't know what's gonna happen next this one was after the Utah shot. Retires on top of the world. No one thinks it can get any better.

Don't do Michael Jordan with the Wizards. Let's just call it a series, right? And I think you could have Loki go into these other movies, other shows. He could still be a thing. I just think we don't need a Loki season three. Because then you're going to need a Loki season four, or you're just going to have to somehow finish it as good as you did here I just don't think it's going to be possible

then I want I want getting Loki back to be a big part of the plot of Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars I want Loki to be the person that delivers the final blow to Kang no I'm asking a lot that but after this series I think Loki is deserving of that and it would be cool to see this ragtag group again, OB, Casey, Mobius, Hunter, B-15, like getting them together to get Loki. Maybe you need to get their aura to get to the end of time or something, their temporal aura together. Because I don't want this to be the last of OB or the TVA. Like, I want more of this, even though i don't want them to ruin it with more of this i want my cake and i want to eat it too i want my key lime pie and i want to eat it too you know what it's so and and you said it perfectly too the way loki is like all he wanted

to do is hang with his new pals and he couldn't even do that but it was like he had to go and do bigger and better things and i i don't know if everyone here has been in the same boat, but it's like you have like a good group of friends at summer camp. And like you're all going back to different schools. And it's like that last day. You're like, we're fucking gone here. It's all over. I felt like that with Loki. I was like, man, this fucking sucks.

Except he's he's not hanging out with anybody. He's just straight up by himself. He got the throne that he truly didn't want by the end of it. It was some fucking, there's some literary devices here being used that I'd have to go back to 10th grade English to really appreciate just how fucking like they were hammering us over the head with it. And I,

I appreciate it, man. That was some, that was some tough stuff for our boy. And Loki's coming back. Do not Loki. Tom Hiddleston's coming back as Loki. Cause make no mistake about it.

The MCU lost Robert Downey Jr. They lost Chris Evans. They lost Chadwick Boseman. Those were three fucking monsters that they had for, you know, for different reasons they lost them. They can't just say, all right, we're going to let Tom Hiddleston just walk out the door right now when it seems like he's pretty happy to be doing this.

And I'm telling you, he's going to be one of those I Heart TS shirts. He's going to wear one of those again down the road. You don't do that if you're not the centerpiece of the MCU. So I'm calling you, he's going to be one of those I heart TS shirts. He's going to wear one of those again down the road. You don't do that if you're not the centerpiece of the MCU. So I'm calling it right now. Tom Hiddleston is not going anywhere. And that goes for the MCU and the Taylor Swift universe. Maybe that's all a loop. Taylor had to date Travis to get back to Tom Hiddleston.

It's all the timeline. It's Victor Timely. It's the end of time, Citadel, all of it. Sidecar, right? Is that the name of the song? I think it was Sidecar or something. Getaway Car. Getaway Car, Getaway Car.

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night wound up not seeing it are you gonna see it tonight i'm seeing it tonight at like 8 45 i don't think i'm gonna see it tonight i think i'm gonna see it sunday the eagles don't play so i feel like sunday is gonna be a good day for me to go. And hopefully my brother won't bail on me. If he – yeah, so he bails on you on that one. It's just I wouldn't even blame him. We've seen the reviews. Honestly, the reviews are not great. Yeah, it was kind of nice to chill last night because we had an 11.30 p.m. showing.

And the movie's only an hour and a half so i would have been up anyways i'm a bit of a night owl so i it would have been fine but based off like ken jack like ken jack was like it's not even worth it to go to the theater which is like i like to just go to the movies even if the movie sucks like i like to eat popcorn so for someone to say like it's not even worth it to go to the theater i was like oh shit it must have been really bad ken check said it wait for disney plus if that and the if that was like oh that hurt that hurt a lot and i said the robbie i go bro i'm gonna be honest with you we're doing this podcast covering every mcu project i would probably just be one of those disney plus people i'd watch it when it came out in the

background i wouldn't even just like just set a time around it. I plan, so it's Sienna's birthday weekend, which she had to sleep over on Thursday night. She has family coming over on Friday. Saturday's her actual birthday. She's a Veterans Day baby, so she always has off for her birthday, which I feel like is a double-edged sword. Did you guys have birthdays where you could go into school,

or were you summer babies? Summer baby. Summer baby? February, so yeah, I could go into school or you summer babies summer baby summer baby i'm february so yeah i could go into school and i always liked going into school but there is something nice about not having school on your birthday and you get to still have cupcakes the day before or whatever which is the world she currently lives in um but she basically has an entire birthday weekend which when she becomes the birthday weekend girl when she gets older like all girls become it's because of us and i'm like do i i have like

maybe two hours for you this entire weekend do i spend that two hours in the movie theater with i guess i could bring her i don't know if she even wants to go and be like i might ruin she might like it she likes miss marvel from like video and stuff and she likes captain marvel from uh endgame or whatever but i feel like this movie might ruin it for her. That's going to be the thing here. If she likes it, that is the audience for this movie. Because there has to be an audience for this movie, right? Yeah. It seems like everyone hates it across the board right now.

Hate is a strong word. Hate's wrong. I haven't seen a ton of hate for this movie. Or people saying it's the worst thing ever. I've just seen a ton of people being like, it's not good thing ever. I've just seen a ton of like people being like, it's not good. It's not like, you know, forgettable villain.

It's super rushed. It's the shortest MCU movie ever. And they tried to cram a bunch into it. I've seen a lot of disappointment and even just like, yes, it's exactly what you thought it was going to be. But what's giving me just a speck of hope is people are saying it's like, yeah, it's not the worst movie ever.

You're just probably not going to leave it being like, what a great Marvel movie. I've seen some people say it's better than the first one, which I liked the first one. So if I think it's better than the first, I'll be pleasantly surprised. What first one? Captain Marvel. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Which I keep calling this movie Captain Marvel, Miss Marvels. I keep calling this Miss Marvels, and it's the Marvels.

It's tough with all the Marvel stuff in my brain right now. Yeah, it's too much. That's a dad brain. The dog is turned into a dad. It's like a sequel to Captain Marvel, Miss Marvels, and kind of WandaVision. Yeah, because Phasma is in it, right? Yeah. And you know in it, right? Yeah. Yeah.

And you know what it's not? Nothing to do with Secret of Asian, apparently, which is crazy considering Nick Fury is in it. And everyone's like, Nick Fury is just fucking cracking jokes after he just had like almost caused a world war, had his like closest two of his closest friends basically die in his arms. And spoilers for anyone with Secret of Asian, you're fucking welcome and then uh you know has like a fucking super weapon just flying around with every power of the avengers and had this like serious shit with his wife go down and then he's just up there like ball busting so uh i'm gonna be very interested we're all gonna see it this weekend i'm going tonight to the theater where brie larson like made an appearance on opening night for Captain Marvel.

It's like a random theater in Jersey. And when I selected my seats, there were two other couples in the whole theater, which I was like, oh, my God, is this movie going to bomb? Like it's I understand we're not stoked for this movie. But at the end of the day, it's a Marvel movie. I thought like, yeah, people want to go see the next installment Marvel. I don't know if that's the case for this one. Post credit scene is supposed to be good, which that's the other thing I'm holding out hope for, which I feel like it's Quantumania all over again, where that movie wasn't great. But the post-credits, I was like, that was a sick post-credits.

I'm excited for what's next. I think that might be what the Marvels is for us. Yeah, I hope it's a post-credit. You know what I have been dying for? Harry Styles. Where the hell is he? He had that whole post-credit scene. And after the Eternals, where is he?

He's like Thanos' half-brother, I think. Yeah. Like, you can't just tease that and not bring him. Like, I've been waiting patiently. I thought maybe they would bring him again in some post-credit scene. No. It's been radio silence. Where is Harry styles i need him where is he looking at wanting the universe to actually connect god forbid like that's all this fun that the 11 years before endgame was all about everything being connected and now everything's just in its own world and

kind of met yeah all the shit for the most part yeah that harry styles one too is the there's that viral tweet that's like all mcu post credit scenes are the same some guy shows up and it's like what's up it's me blorgo and like that one was literally like harry styles showed up again i was like hey i'm harry styles you know me from earth and everyone was like oh shit harry styles theater went crazy and then yeah like you said not only like we haven't seen him again radio silence harry styles roy kent is her hercules yeah radio silence charlie's thereon is miss dr strange dr s strange enchantress whatever the fuck she is ladies radio silent very strange everything's strange everything strange. This is phase four.

They're like, look at all these sweet characters. We're going to put them behind glass and you can't touch them anymore. It's like, what? You can't do that to the girl Marvel fans. You can't do that to us. It's not fair. We get screwed with the shitty movies, the Marvels. And I didn't really love Ms. Marvel.

I thought WandaVision was really good. And I enjoyed Captain Marvel. I didn't think it was that good either. It's like, come on. You got to give us something. Give us Harry Styles, please. You know what they should have done? I've said it before.

Black Widow should have been her own movie right after Civil War. That came out at the wrong time. Black Widow widow i thought was actually now that i take that about everything being crap black widow was i thought was actually very good but it's like well she's dead now exactly like the stuff with uh hopper as her dad and yelena like yelena is a great character in that movie right after civil war people would have been like oh shit like black widow she deserved her own movie but apparently scarlett johansson's producing a secret project for marvel

still which i heard rumors about that years ago kevin feige confirmed it's still in the works on the red carpet this week i don't know what that could be but i would think it's a female oriented movie or tv show yeah i would i just feel like sometimes Marvel can be so cheesy with the female stuff with like girl power. Yeah. They like, don't show it a lot. Yeah.

I, that's, I, I liked the way they did it in, uh, infinity war over like end game, end game. When they're like,

all the girls are together. Check this out. Yeah. That's one thing. Infinity war. When it was just like, you got no one to save you. And it's like, infinity war when it was just like you got no one to save you and it's like we're here it's like uh who was it scarlett johansson and by

wanda yeah that was awesome okoye yeah okoye yeah that was that was a great like subtle use of it yeah yeah yeah the end game shit was ridiculous and i said i was with my daughter at the theater and i was she was her eyes lit up like that was so awesome and that was so ridiculous it is what it is it's like if it happened in a comic book you wouldn't feel as ridiculous but there's this giant sprawling battle going on and every single girl hero was in that one like 20 square yeah they're all posing yeah i i'm gonna say this now and i truly do believe it so and i think i think it's very sad about the marvels i don't think it's gonna be i don't think people hate it i think people are already mad on it and i was gonna say like what fast food item remember that was a

reviews what fast food item are you expecting out of it i don't even think we can say that i feel like i'm getting fast food where my where my wife is like hey i got you like some some food i don't want to use any brands here in case you haven't tried some barstool but it's been sitting out for like two hours and i'm like that's just not going to be good that's not like i'm going to eat the cold fries yeah and i'll be okay with eating those cold fries to fill me up but yeah no i'm not going to enjoy it probably that's how i feel about the marbles going in and i'm not rooting against it yeah i wrote the blog and people were like oh look at robbie become a negative and it's like i'm not rooting against it. Yeah. I wrote the blog and people were like, Oh, look at Robbie become a negative.

And it's like, I'm not, I would like to go into this movie and enjoy it. I'm just trying to be realistic here. I don't think I'm going to go in and love this movie. I almost think they should be like, they should sell you tickets. Like,

especially like I'm sure Robbie's tickets, I can get tickets here on Tuesdays for five bucks. It's incredible. Robbie, your price been like $25 for your ticket, 17, a ticket, 17, a ticket 17 a

ticket they should sell you three dollar post credits and you just go for the post credits you're gonna probably walk away happier that you didn't spend that hour and a half of your life and listen i love i don't want to get killed by jeff dillow either i like one of the movies as well i like i'm i need to unplug more than anyone else in this goddamn podcast sometimes but like it's it's tough it's a lot of money and it kind of just feels like you're just like oh this is such a bad goddamn movie so i think we're gonna all be we're all hoping for the best expecting the worst which is kind of the way to go in with some of these movies so they don't let you down right yeah i do think kevin feige if if if the

marvels is bad and we have another stinker before Deadpool 3. We got nothing before Deadpool 3. Deadpool 3 is the only Marvel project on the slate for next year, apparently. That's crazy. Which I think is good. I think that's good. They need to take a detox, for sure. They've been pumping out way too much content. It's gotten way too oversaturated.

And it's just gotten too much where it's like what why is this character important where do they where do they lie in the grand scheme of things like these too many shows that just aren't important it just feels like way too much it's like i as i'm as we're all marvel fans i i don't know if you guys feel the same way but it's kind of like a fatigue where it's just like, I can't. It's what they said was going to happen for years. They said superhero fatigue is going to hit. And we said,

no way. It's not even. It's just, it's just constantly having to defend stuff that just isn't good. Yeah. It's bad content. Fatigue is what it is. It's not.

Yeah. It's not Marvel. It's it is um it's not yeah i'm super yeah it's not yeah it's not marvel it's not superhero it's just way too much happening and it's just making the it's just making content worse because i feel like maybe they're spreading their writers too thin and trying to write too many stuff and they can't just focus on like one good story so hopefully just having deadpool 3 i mean the past two deadpools have been amazing so i think that'll be good kind of give everyone just a break and be like here's every here's one that everyone will love yeah we're gonna do this right and moving forward and i we said the other day people that were in charge of this should have a very loud voice and everything

moving forward and just like the strategy they they like use with this where it's like hey listen this is what's going to happen we want you guys to be involved whereas with some of these other projects the person's like i've never read a comic book in my life i don't even know who these characters are i was told that's why i got hired it's like what how does that make sense and like you said robin i've watched gen v which was awesome i'm just getting into invincible now because i know season two just came out so i'm like halfway through season one um i've been watching loki and i'm not like oh more superhero shit listen it's kind of crazy like gen v or the boys universe and the invincible universe is very similar but i'm not like oh my god i'm just so fatigued by it's such a that's it's the f word stop saying that word it's just

bad content fatigue when it's bad yeah fucking So I think we're going to get back to basics. But if Kevin Feige, if we have another slip up before Deadpool 3 comes out, some sort of like story comes out about how much they fucked up, I need him to do what they do in like sports. He has a press conference and like basically apologizes to us and tells us like we're going to get this right. Like Bob Iger telling me stuff, it doesn't hit the same, right? He's like, oh, we got a little too, you know,

full of ourselves, yada, yada, yada. He's talking to like board members. I need a nerd talking to us nerds and telling us everything's going to be all right. Which did you guys see the rumors about captain America that came out last

night? God, that's right. All right. All right. That, that might be it. Another one like that.

I need 5d out there. Tell people what happened. The rumors. Apparently captain America, brave new world was screened and tested poorly. another one like that i need 5d out there tell people what happened the rumors apparently captain america brave new world was screened and tested poorly so they're going back and they're cutting three large sequences from the movie and doing four months of reshoots four months is long enough to shoot a movie might be long enough to shoot two movies so i'm definitely worried now now i'm not always worried when they go in and do reshoots rogue one had a ton of reshoots they went in and doctored that script and they fixed it and did what they had to do to make it an amazing movie they added darth

vader killing rebels and reshoots did they but man yeah yeah. Yeah. They got rid of the TIE fighter. That sucked. They got rid of the TIE fighter. That was a cool one. The TIE fighter, I was sick in the trailer. But Vader was awesome. But if they add a Darth Vader killing rebels-esque scene to Captain America, this will all be for the best. For now, it makes me worried, especially as a Cap guy. Yeah. No, but even with Captain America and the Falcon, didn't they have to do a bunch of reshoots for that too?

Yeah, because it was like COVID-related. Yeah. A COVID-related storyline. Yeah, so it's just like they're really not hitting the mark here apparently with the new Captain America stuff. I mean it's so hard to keep going with a new character that has the same name you know like it's hard in the comics yeah like they try to do it in the comics pretty often and like miles morales hits but a lot of other ones don't yeah it's just he's hitting for me but he's yeah yeah i don't know what it is but doing a whole new captain america just kind of seems pointless it's just like we had chris evans who is like the

epitome of captain america but i really like who what's his name the guy who Anthony Mackie Anthony Mackie i love Anthony Mackie i think Anthony Mackie should be a huge part of the mcu let alone i think he deserves to have his time to shine for sure it's just like why is he just another captain america i feel like he should have just maybe developed or state or could have made falcon like a massive say the falcon and just yeah exactly exactly exactly tournaments like the eagle american style that's good the american eagle and instead we're just kind of getting this like it feels like other captain america yeah i hope it's good about Robbie, for your sake more than anything,

let alone our stakes. But, man, when I hear reshoots, I don't think of Rogue One. I think of another Star Wars franchise. I think of Solo and how everything just became a mess. And I'm just like, fuck, we're really in trouble right now, aren't we? So I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst. That's kind of the fucking motto of Marvel now. Steve,

huh? What's your last name? And they look at Roy Rogers and they're like, Rogers. Oh no! Alright, that was the Loki season 2 possibly series finale recap. I got a hashtag. Oh, you got a hashtag for us? I got a hashtag. Hashtag, see you soon, because we'll be back next week

with the Marvels. Oh, that's good and that was that was low-key my favorite low-key low-key uh that was one of my favorite parts of the episode was how he kept saying see you soon he just kept hearing it haunting yeah yeah it was haunting all right see you soon is our hashtag and we'll be back next week to do the marvels probably early in the week if we're all seeing it this weekend monday or tuesday i would imagine we'll record that. Group promise. We will try not to be too grumpy. Yeah, yeah. We'll try to pick out everyone.

Here's our homework. Everyone go into the Marvels and come back with one thing you liked about it. Yes. Good. And this is for the people that stayed all the way to the end of the podcast. We're going to let you in on a little secret. If we all hated it, me and Robbie are going to defend it, and Gia's going to rip it apart

to really throw the brains into a flux. You're like, Barstool hates it. The girl who hated it. What are you guys going to say now? We will be the internet's number one feminist next week. All right. Thank you guys.

We will be back next week to recap the marbles. See you soon.