My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 312 - THE MARVELS REVIEW WITH CLEM AND GIA

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Robbie, Clem, and Gia recap and review 'The Marvels' - which seems to be one of the more polarizing Marvel Studios projects to date! They discuss it all, from the box office to the post credits scene ...to the future of the MCU to the singing planet and more! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). C4: Grab the new C4 Ultimate Energy WWE flavors today at GNC, online, or find them near you at https://FindC4.com. #TheMarvels #MarvelStudios #MCU ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and 3Chi. I am your host, Robbie Fox, along with my two co-hosts, Clem and Gia, for a special recap and review of The Marvels. Now this was a movie that we weren't necessarily stoked for. We weren't rooting against it by any means, but I don't think we were expecting the world out of this movie. I would
Starting point is 00:00:30 say after seeing it, it was a little better than I expected. And I know we're probably going to go in on some of the stuff that we didn't love, but I'll start by saying that it was a little better than I expected. And for that, I was grateful. Clem, we'll start with you. What are your overall broad strokes thoughts on the Marvels? I think the Marvels was a, the entire vibe around the Marvels was as much about the Marvels and the trailer as it was about the current state of the MCU lately, right? Not just, I'm not talking Lokiki season two i'm not talking guardians i'm talking basically the last two years worth of projects that has caused a thousand think pieces on superhero fatigue and is the mcu dead but because of that aj is giving his opinion upstairs i could hear uh because of that we uh we went in with lowered expectations and i think the marvels is kind of
Starting point is 00:01:27 like benefiting from everyone's expectations being basically rock bottom as it should be with again the last two or so years worth of projects that i think it was better than expected which again expected was like zero on the rotten tomato scale it was definitely higher than that so i'm counting that as a win for marvel but then like you see like it was like the lowest box office opening in the history of the mcu so there's plenty of l's to go around as well so that's kind of my overarching thoughts on it all how about you yeah i i agree clem i feel like i went in with the same mindset i was like oh god you know it's been seeing a lot of trash talk on twitter about this i
Starting point is 00:02:05 feel like i'm not gonna like it but from the get-go it it captured my attention throughout the entire thing i think very weak villain which was one of its biggest downfalls she just didn't have that especially comparing her to someone like kang or someone like, I always forget the Guardians 3 guy's name, but he was so good. Oh, the High Evolutionary. Yes, High Evolutionary, yes. He was so good. So to compare her to him, it's like apples and oranges. But I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I thought it was fun. I thought it was funny. There were certainly some scenes I thought were very stupid. But for the most part, I had a good laugh. I feel like it needed more time. I felt like it was too short and some things I just felt like were very rushed. But besides that, I had, it was fine. Did you guys feel like they like might've changed the edit at some point or change the
Starting point is 00:03:00 story? Like, I just felt it was uneven and it didn't really flow. And I don't know if that's how the movie always was, or they changed stuff along the story. I just felt it was uneven and it didn't really flow. I don't know if that's how the movie always was or they changed stuff along the way because I was just like, wait, this doesn't seem to be adding up with that. I just felt it was a little disjointed at some parts. I was also
Starting point is 00:03:15 cards on the table. Going to just be honest here with the audience. You guys already know this. I went into the theater, which again was pretty empty. I go to my back row in the corner, so I'm was pretty empty. I go to my back row in the corner. So I'm not bothering anyone. I turned this, I basically treated this like a Disney plus show. As people said, you should watch it.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So I turned the phone on all the way to the lowest brightness. So I wouldn't bother anyone. And I kind of would like just check my phone here and there. I did. I was that guy in the movie theater. Cause I, you're just not going to get my unabated attention for a hundred minutes or whatever. But I do think like you said, Robbie and our Loki recap in the finale,
Starting point is 00:03:49 there was, it wasn't even like hate. It was more like Matt was kind of the vibes we were getting from all of it. And I think that's kind of where we were. We might've been a little too strong with our, this is going to suck. I do think it was disappointing. I would have rather spent another,
Starting point is 00:04:04 you know, way to spend two hours but you know what we got popcorn how was everyone's popcorn that's what i wanted to know how was everybody's popcorn very good thumbs up very hit the spot six thumbs up so it did like you said like it didn't suck if we expected it to suck it definitely didn't at best it was like a pretty decent superhero fun movie. At worst, it was a forgettable lower tier MCU movie. I don't even know if I would say like some, I saw people saying worst MCU movie ever. I don't think I would say that either.
Starting point is 00:04:34 There was nothing about it that was like offensively bad to me. There was like, Gia pointed out, there was like two sequences where I was like, am I on acid right now? What the fuck is happening in this movie? But at the end of the day, we got a good post-credit scene. We moved along the universe a little more than I expected them to, to be honest. We didn't fucking reference Secret Invasion for one second. So we all wasted our time with that.
Starting point is 00:04:57 They acted like it didn't exist. Like we don't have this super soldier with every power ever that Samuel L. Jackson just gave her the syringe for. So that, you know, there were things about it that i didn't love it wasn't i wasn't over the moon about it but it certainly didn't suck i think it's uh if you like the mcu i can't imagine you would hate this movie this marvels recap is brought to you by 3g of all the things in life one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want whenever whenever you want, without the paranoia of consuming some sketchy black market stuff. What's the best way to do that? With 3Chi, of course. 3Chi has the highest quality cannabis products from their delicious Delta 9 edibles and their industry-leading Delta 8 products
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Starting point is 00:06:45 It didn't suck. Robbie Fox, part of put on the posters. It didn't suck. Robbie Fox, part of Stool Sports. I think that's a fair. Like, that would get me if I was on, like, the fence of taking, like, my daughter to see it. That would. But you know what? I asked her if she wanted. She's like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So if you're not even getting, like, the nine-year-old girl that loves superheroes and, like, fuck out when in, uh, end game, when all the girls got together, that means you kind of have to go back to the drawing board, Feige and company. Cause you gotta get, you gotta get that crew. If you're not going to,
Starting point is 00:07:13 you know, you're going to have different people across the board. You gotta get the nine-year-old girls that are just dying to see people that look like them in a superhero movie. So I will say that we're super now, what is this? This is, I'm trying to figure out the bar here, Robbie worst MCU movie ever. What do you think we have to clear? Because I don't think it is either because I know these movies are probably better than the Marvels,
Starting point is 00:07:46 which is working against the point I just made, but you give me Robert Downey Jr. and Iron Man 3, I'd probably prefer that to the Marvels, but The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton, it's not great. Yep, I think those are all fair. Gia, do you have anything that you kind of like that is absolute basura? Yeah, Robbie took it. Thor Dark Worlds for me is one of the worst ones ever. Honestly, Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness I think was worse.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Really? Yeah, is that a hot take? Really? Yeah, I don't know. But you know what? That one was more like polarizing, I think, than this. Everyone kind of is on the same like six out of ten or whatever with this. Five out of ten you want to call it that with multiverse of madness there was like people that loved it and people that hated it yeah i just i never did it for me i don't know if it was like the sam remedy like dark vibe of it or whatever the director's name is but i i i just thought it was silly and kind of stupid. And I think the Marvels had a bit more of like, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:08:49 The Marvels felt more just like Crasbaum from Marvel. It felt more like into the universe. Sam Raimi, like you said, his style will give you like a horror movie vibe sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say with this though, they did for most of the movie play it safe in terms of like, it kind of like hits the bullet points every Marvel movie does.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Those weird sequences that will just put it out on Front Street, the singing sequence and the fucking cat sequence at the end. I appreciate that they were at least like, let's take a shot and see if this works. Did it work? I don't think so. But they took a shot. They tried. No, the singing did not work. And I love musicals.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I love singing. I did not like the singing part at all. I thought it was so silly. And then all of a sudden Captain Marvel is like a princess. Oh, she's like, oh, by the way, I got married. Like what? You're just going to throw that out there? In the theater, we just shook our head.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Like, I can't believe we're doing this right now. She puts on a dress. She looks like a disney it turned into a disney movie like a straight up live action disney musical for way too long too i thought that would be like a quick like two minute bit and all right let's get this over with we got you the universe at stake but no they fucking they sang their asses off and br Larson, she's got a great voice. But I don't want to hear it in this. I want to hear it in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World or something. So my wife, I think I've told you this in the past.
Starting point is 00:10:14 My wife is obsessed to this day still with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It's her favorite show of all time. She just rewatches it any given night. You're going to see her watching a couple episodes. And there is an episode where it's just an entire episode. They become a musical. I think someone casts a spell on them. And I, I actually like tip my cap because there are some parts of Buffy that are
Starting point is 00:10:28 very cool. Like, I think that is a cool thing where you just have an entire episode. That's just a musical. I think if they had done this, right. It could have been a fucking home run. It there's like 99% chance it was going to flop.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And I think it did flop, but I thought they, I like, I give them credit for if Taika Waititi does this, are jerking off you're like it's it's fucking genius right i do i don't know after the last one he did though yeah that's that's true that and that's i think one of the ones that this one had to clear i think thor 2 um thor 3 or thor 4 excuse me um i'm looking at the uh rotten tomatoes here lowest rotten, this is critics, is Quantumania, believe it or not. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Followed by Eternals, which again, me and Robbie liked, I think, more than most because Jose gave us the entire background of the Eternals. So we weren't confused or like, we kind of knew what we were getting into going in. And then Marvels is three in terms of from the bottom. Wow. Marvels felt more like a Marvel movie than the Eternals to me.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And Eternals isn't bad by any means. Like it's a well-made movie, but it didn felt more like a Marvel movie than Eternals to me. And Eternals isn't bad by any means. It's a well-made movie, but it didn't feel like a Marvel movie. Marvels is when your favorite restaurant I don't want to say, I always call it Rao's. I think it's called Rao's. This is like the canned sauce.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Marvels is the canned sauce, but everyone goes you get the good shit, and that's Iron Man 1. That's Cap 1. That's the Avengers movies. That's if you're actually going to the restaurant. This, they hit all the different like checkpoints of a typical Marvel movie. And it was like, oh, okay. I like this. I'm a Marvel fan, but I don't really like it.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Right. I think there are two differences. Yeah. Forgettable is the number one word that keeps coming to mind for me. I'm just like, I think it's forgettable. I don't remember. Genuinely don't remember what the villain's name is. i didn't look it up before we did this god what is the name da bomb and hair the bomb the hot sauce from hot ones isn't it like dar ben dar boom dar something like that Darben sounded right when you said that. Yeah. Darben?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Ben Dar? The only thing I knew about the villain is that we learned that she's engaged to our boy Hiddleston. Yes. She's basically the stepping stone back to Taylor Swift. Darben. Yeah. All right. So Darben. And I didn't even think it was like necessarily a bad performance.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I don't think there was anything for her to do, really. She has like three or four scenes in the whole movie, it felt like. And it also felt like she wasn't even really one that bad or two that powerful because she got all the powers from the wrist thing and the hammer. So if she didn't have either of those like she's kind of screwed so she just didn't really was just like my people are starving they can't breathe yeah they need water i know and it's kind of like you're like damn i feel bad for you the way they wrap that up spoilers for the marvel spoiler spoiler spoilers at the end someone fucking turns to brie larson and they're like, you know, you could have just fixed that in the first place, right?
Starting point is 00:13:27 And she's like, oh, really? And then she goes and fixes it and that's it. What the fuck? I couldn't believe that. Like, oh, she could have just like turned the sun back on. She forgot that she didn't even turn it off and on again. She just left them and was like, I guess they'll deal with that. That was bananas.
Starting point is 00:13:44 We live in this internet world now. Unplug her from the wall for 10 minutes and plug it back in and it's going to work. That's basically how technology works now. Day one shit, Captain Marvel. Are you still in the fucking 90s right now? What's going on? Yeah, that was bananas. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:13:58 That was one of those things they might have changed in the edit. You implied maybe they changed things in the edit. That was one of those like, Oh, we got to wrap this up. Like, let's get a move on this. Captain Marvel.
Starting point is 00:14:08 She could do it. Right. Yeah. She could turn it back on. One thing that I said to you, I swear must've changed in the edit. I think in the original test screenings, what tested the best was Iman Valani,
Starting point is 00:14:20 Ms. Marvel and her family in Jersey city, that whole fight sequence in their house in the beginning. I think people probably thought that was really funny and charming and they liked that. So they wrote to Marvel or the tester said that's what tested the best. And then they said, all right, I guess we need them in the third act too. And they sent them to space for no reason. Like they were funny. And there was a couple of lines that they had in space when the brother's praying and Samuel Jackson praying and he stops. He's don't don't stop amen like keep going that was really funny there was no reason for them to be on that
Starting point is 00:14:50 spaceship in space in danger like samuel jackson would never put them in that spot i don't think nick fury would and he wouldn't be cracking jokes with them in that spot so there are things like that where i'm like that must have changed in the edit because it just doesn't make any logical sense they just did it for the sake of comedy which sometimes is going to hurt the story a little bit yeah and they are it's a very unique situation because they're playing the parents that are kind of shooting down their daughter's dreams because they're worried about her which is completely understandable but it's like then they're also the comedic relief and it's very hard to pull off both and that was kind of I think i think when we watched miss marvel we're like i don't know if
Starting point is 00:15:28 i like the mom or hate the mom like i kind of understand where she's coming from as a parent but i also am like just sick of her bullshit and the dad i think is funny and the brother is an interesting character as well who can definitely be funny but yeah it's like i didn't need them up in space i think there was enough shit going on i didn't know what the fuck was going on we're all waiting for the villain to do some cool shit and it's like I didn't need them up in space. I think there was enough shit going on. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. We're all waiting for the villain to do some cool shit. And it's like, oh, now these people are back in our face. So yeah, I'm with you, Bob. That does feel like a post-edit thing.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So let's get into the movie a little bit. I don't have the normal bullet points that I have for our TV shows when we go scene by scene and real in-depth. I'll be honest. I thought of a reason why I don't have that. But there's no reason. I just didn't want to. It a reason why I don't have that, but there's no reason. I just didn't want to. It's one of those movies where, and also it's forgettable.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Like I, I saw this movie on Friday night. I don't remember a decent point. And it's not, that's not the three G that's just the movie. Wait. So is our hashtag it's forgettable or it's not terrible. I forgot which one's our hashtag.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Our hashtag was it didn't suck. It didn't suck. Okay. It didn't suck. All right. I'm our hashtag. Our hashtag was it didn't suck. It didn't suck. Okay. It didn't suck. All right. I'm keeping that one. It forgettable. So we'll keep that.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Didn't suck. There's a lot of different taglines that Marvel should and shouldn't use for their poster here. Hey, how about before we get into the movie real in-depth like that? I said last week, let's all come back with one thing we can compliment about this movie. So I did write down for me i really liked the way that they shot the uh power swapping action scenes where they where they actually like would change places i thought they had some really creative action scenes and then my other one was there was a couple samuel jackson one-liners i loved when he says first rule stop touching that was like that's that's a fed up dad right there
Starting point is 00:17:04 so i really appreciated samuel jackson in this movie that's that's a fed up dad right there so i really appreciated samuel jackson in this movie that's what i liked about it what about you gia i was gonna say the comedy aspect it was actually surprisingly very funny i thought that kamala had like really good lines she's like kind of annoying a little bit because she's young and she's like following them around but i i wish i could remember like a one-liner but it's like kind of annoying a little bit because she's young and she's like following them around. But I wish I could remember like a one liner, but it's like it sucks because this movie like it just literally went in one ear, not the other. But there were some moments where I was like laughing at her jokes. I thought she was very funny.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. OK, so my my thing, my my homework, Robbie, was that like i think they did a good job with that action sequence uh thing and i also think it's cheating to say the post credits which is what everyone probably the post credits is great yeah so i'm not gonna cheat so i'm gonna go with my third option on the list and this is gonna sound like it's like kind of an insult it almost sounds like something you'd hear uh on like uh america's got talent show or something to someone who does not have talent but i'm i swear i appreciate that they took chances that singing thing was a chance and it would be very easy to not do it and that the director probably would have been kicking themselves saying i should
Starting point is 00:18:17 have done it i should have just let it fly i appreciate them taking chances they fell on their face but hey like you got a fucking Marvel movie. You can't be that bad. So I will say they took chances. They took some chances. And you begin the movie with the villain, Ben-Hare, or whatever her name is. She discovers the bangle in the moon.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Ben-Hur. Just call her Ben-Hur for now on. Ben-Hur, yeah. They discover the bangle, which is connected to Ms. Marvel's bangle. And speaking of taking chances i loved the introduction of miss marvel when they kind of link the bangles and then they do the same thing they did in the first episode of her show where she's like drawing a little scene with miss marvel and it goes into a cartoon and she's just imagining them being friends them doing the twinsies thing
Starting point is 00:18:59 like finger guns at each other that got some legit laughs out of my theater which was like it was dead when i went in there we were like the only people in there but then by the time the movie started i would say it was 25 full and the theater was laughing at all the comedy they went crazy for the post-credit scene so it wasn't the same vibe a normal marvel opening weekend gives you but it was similar gia you went sunday you went yesterday right was the theater yesterday was it full how was it it was dead dead i went at like a four i think i went at like three or four o'clock and yeah i was dead there i i got there late because i was like really hung over and i was just i'm just gonna go straight for the movie and by the time i was there i want to say there was max five other people in the theater with me.
Starting point is 00:19:47 That's tough. That's tough for the mortals. People were laughing. Okay. All right. I'm saying I probably had about 20% capacity in terms of our audience here. So I'd say lines up with about what the numbers they're drawing in right
Starting point is 00:20:04 now. I will say I got something else. Nice to say it's a movie short the very like i don't know like i appreciate i think is a fault like i appreciated that it was short because i don't have to be in the theater for a long time but it definitely could have used another 20 minutes of explaining the whole plot yes yes i like i don't know like i think we reached a point where it's like i feel like ant-man was long and we're like, that didn't need to be that long. They could have made it a lot better if they had tightened it up. This one probably could have went a little longer, but I think a lot,
Starting point is 00:20:32 I think the amount of people we saw at the movie theater would have been even less if it was two and a half hours. I think a lot of people were like, nah, we're good. We're not going to, you know, spend that much of our time. I do appreciate that it was a little shorter. Also Dar Ben, I was getting big, I know it's like cree stuff and i think she kind of said like my predecessor or something is she like supposed to be like friends or the like the new version of ronin because that was the like with the hammer i was getting a lot of ronin vibes and listen huge ronin vibes yes big Guardians fan Guardians 2 is is my favorite by far but I also love Guardians 1 Guardians 1's biggest flaw is that the villain sucks and I think she is just
Starting point is 00:21:12 the evolutionary Ronin like the only what is the coolest thing about Ronin Bob do you remember what I said the coolest thing about Ronin when he does that when he kills the guy with the hammer and then the blood goes and trickles in in the beginning that is pretty cool but it's his nickname the accuser and like if you're going just based off the accuser as your nickname which let's be honest you're basically the snitch it's kind of a shitty nickname but it's cooler than basically anything else you do that's how you know it's kind of tough so again i'm blaming like the marvels could just be like hey we had a shitty villain we got dealt fucking dar ben no one even remembers her goddamn name i do think there is a case to be made that they were kind of fucked off jump street here yeah um tell you
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Starting point is 00:23:16 um we get that huge fight sequence in the beginning of the movie that kind of introduces us to the power swapping angle where you get two bad guys in Kamala's house in Jersey City, just making their living room more and more of a train wreck with every punch and kick thrown. I did laugh at that. Like the look on the parents' faces as the fight progressed of just like, oh my God, everything's broken. Absolutely. Everything's broken. The TV's gone. Now now the table's gone now the chairs are gone i thought that was good and a good way of uh kind of like playing into the miss marvel family aspect that we saw in her show and like you said the the parents you go back and forth over are they disapproving are they funny but for the most part they're funny and i felt like they worked
Starting point is 00:24:01 together well in uh in this as all the shit yeah i think it was it was definitely funny and i felt like they worked together well in uh in this as all the shit yeah i think it was it was definitely funny and i think three of us northeastern kids right like i like that i've been to that person's house a million times like that was here like that's exactly how a northeastern house is laid out in the burbs in some places in the city yeah no i was just gonna say i really like i i i liked her parents i think that they're funny i think the brother the brother he said something really oh when the mom the mom like tries to break the vase like over the guy's head which i thought was really funny and they were like trying to fight which is like totally something that like my parents would do i i i understand why they have to bring in the i i i
Starting point is 00:24:43 think that the parents add a little bit, something to like Kamala's life. Like it like humbles her a little bit or like, like keeps her grounded, keeps like her storyline. Like she's just a girl from Jersey city. And I feel like they mentioned that a lot. They do.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Jersey city. I'm just from Jersey city. What do you want from me? I'm from Jersey city. It's like, okay, we get it. I was always like,
Starting point is 00:25:04 yeah, I'm from jersey city it's like okay we get it i was always like yeah i'm from there yeah yeah even they did the uh they have that scene where they miss marvel or captain marvel goes and flies up and then they swap and they're like oh fuck she's falling like you gotta go get her you gotta whatever in that shot i was looking for like where's my apartment in jersey city they're definitely using the satellite footage for that um but yeah they do love to play and she's like the local superhero and she gets in trouble for all that they go off they have that sequence where they got to save a bunch of scrolls because the water's coming down that was cool it was a cool planet cool uh like different way everything was shot and i like the dynamic of captain marvel being like save who we can like chill out with all the rest you know miss marvel's trying to save everyone and she realizes
Starting point is 00:25:51 her hero isn't all she's cracked up to be in that moment and they kind of it's like the strife moment where she doesn't know how to react but then as soon as they get back on the ship captain marvel's like i'm sorry i talked to you that way it was kind of a nice like they get their twinsies moment and stuff everything up to that moment where they're on the ship was moving pretty quick and was pretty good i felt like the movie started stronger than it ended like i was really into the beginning and i was like this is kind of fucking great and then when they hit the ship and they start talking to each other i like that they learned how to use the powers together and stuff the juggling scene and that montage was great but it did feel like a little stall for the movie did you guys feel that way i kind of liked it just because i feel like it gave captain marvel more
Starting point is 00:26:34 of like a arc like a character arc in a way because i think it humanized her a little bit more i feel like she always was so stoic and unapproachable. In the first movie, she really was. I feel like as her character has progressed, she's definitely gotten more showing her emotions and sensitive. I kind of enjoyed those scenes
Starting point is 00:26:57 and I was interested because I kind of forgot what happened with her and Monica. I was like, I don't, I don't really remember why they hate each other or why they weren't talking. They did a good job of doing a recap of the first movie. It was like a last week. Marvel.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah. I, the beginning of the movie and basically up to the part you described, I was the very early stages of the Vince McMahon, McMahon meme where he's like, Hmm. Okay. You know,
Starting point is 00:27:24 it was Stacy Keebler like that. I was very, and listen, I'm not about to fall off a chair or anything, but it was like, okay, this might be something here. So I was definitely excited. That being said, this is actually a huge strike against the Marvels, and it's not even their fault. But you throw the Skrulls in there,
Starting point is 00:27:41 anyone that watched Secret Evasion is going to go back to Secret Evasion. And then that taste is going to be back to secret evasion and then that taste is going to be in our mouth i mean the first like couple episodes were fucking sweet they were good that actor i i'm never gonna remember his name but he's i'm telling you he's gonna win an oscar that was my fucking claim right bob that was my hot take and he looked good in the bob marley movie i saw the preview for it i'm definitely excited for it and then they just completely fucked that up and then like you, I see the scrolls.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And I'm like, oh, yeah, Samuel L. Jackson. He just lost two of the closest people in his life. And he's fucking cracking one-liners here. So, like, I'd laugh at the one-liners and then be like, this man should be devastated and, like, not leaving bed and just eating ice cream in bed. And he's fucking out here having fun. So that kind of, like, that kind of, like, needled me a little bit. So that's kind of where I was like, all right, there's definitely a flaw in the mcu there so i was definitely a little upset but again i think you guys are right i think it's like there was definitely some momentum building
Starting point is 00:28:33 but every time i saw a scroll i'm just like oh god damn which actually bob it's a funny it's a good point like imagine like captain marvel's there and then she's just like racist and kamal's like who the fuck is this she's like just kill them all who gives a fuck your scrolls like that would have been a nice little twist that no one could have seen come like never meet your heroes kids yeah we also lost the best scroll like our favorite scroll palos talos however you say ben mendelsohn yeah he was amazing in that role he was so good in the first one when he flips and realizes like you were supposed to be my science guy and he's yelling at his other scroll and they're sipping on slurpees like he was such a good comedic relief we're talking about like humanizing a crazy alien with a bunch of prosthetics
Starting point is 00:29:13 like he made me feel for those aliens and they killed him in secret invasion for no reason no they honestly they should pretend like that show never happened and just bring him back and act like he never died i i couldn't agree more and while we're bringing shabatsky back to you bring maria hill back as well like yeah yeah why did she die maria hill's dead for no reason like that's like finding out someone lost the wmf title at a house show and like it wasn't even on tv like what did we even do here they didn't have cameras there for it yeah i feel like the scrolls in the kree are kind of just like they've had their time. I feel like I'm just kind of tired of them in general. We've seen them since the first Guardians, maybe even earlier than that.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I don't know. And I just, I'm over it. We need more. We need something new, I think. They definitely did not. We got enough of them in the first Captain Marvel, too. Yeah. They had their chance to, like it work it didn't work they've made other space like things work in the mcu right now the question is when our beloved harry styles comes back into our life right i feel like they're gonna have to like i feel like the korean the scroll is so
Starting point is 00:30:21 important they're like listen you guys are just gonna have to like they're our vegetables you guys are gonna have to eat these and just grin and bear it but i feel like they have just completely bungled it like is there any has there been any part of this korean scroll like drama that's been well done like again i didn't even really enjoy them in guardians all that much it just makes no sense to me because it's like how is one of their populations not wiped out already it feels like every single time we're meeting the soldier the cree their population is getting wiped out they're on some planet they need saving the planet's blowing up and then they move on they get refuge somewhere new like and what's her face from this time it's a new asgard yeah
Starting point is 00:31:03 yeah yeah tessa thompson valkyrie yes she comes saves them it's a new Asgard, yeah. Tessa Thompson is Valkyrie. Yeah, Tessa Thompson, Valkyrie, yeah. She comes, saves them. It's like, okay, but there's only like 15 of them now. So it's like, how much can they expand population-wise in the next five years at MCU? Also, question about that Valkyrie scene. I feel like that guy from SportsCenter when he's like, was something going on with Tessa Thompson and Ms. Marvel
Starting point is 00:31:24 or Captain Marvel? Were they a thing? I don't know i was confused i was like when were they even friends or when did they even meet there was a like a long kiss on the cheek there and i was like what was that so i i saw a little bit of a um what's it called uh it was like a clickbaity tweet and they were like you're not gonna but like who's captain marvel's like new side piece or whatever and they said like they're basically dating like i don't know if they were like like is that where captain marvel was during the fucking beginning of endgame is her and valkyrie were fucking you know she's in bed smooching all the time yeah Yeah, exactly. I'm like, all right, I guess we got to go save the world. Like, Thanos is back. So I'm right there with you.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I am like the guy who can't take the clue. It's like, oh, she was making the hint towards me. Like, she was doing the thing. Yeah. I'm happy neither of you guys picked up on it because I felt like it was way over. I think there was a thing. I didn't pick up on that at all, honestly. And I usually, like, even when someone, like, looks at each other in a movie, I'm like, oh, they like each other.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I couldn't get that vibe from them, though. I feel like I would maybe need to rewatch the scene. Because I feel like they've also been pushing for their characters to be, like, bi or LGBTQ+. And I think specifically that. So I was like, maybe something's going on. Well, I feel like, I think Valkyrie mentioned something about how she was like, how she would sleep with men and women.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I feel like I remember her saying something about that. In Love and Thunder, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're right about that. I have to ask this too. Was Captain Marvel dating Monica's mom or did they have a thing? Was it like?
Starting point is 00:33:06 No, I don't think so. No, no, no. Because I thought there was something there. And then I'm like, wait a minute. Has this been going on for a while? Okay, so that was not happening. But because like, then that's like the auntie thing becomes even more personal. It's like kind of like you said, mom.
Starting point is 00:33:20 But I didn't know what the hell was going on. So I don't, again. Yeah, no. Then we we you know get to the singing planet which we kind of know how much more there is to have there i mean they took his chance they took a shot she married the prince to for diplomatic purposes so they're not really you know a thing they don't it doesn't seem like there's feelings there prince seemed like an all right dude he got them new costumes, and I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Monica Rambeau or Maria Rambeau? Which one's the daughter? Monica? Maria. Maria. Oh, wait, no, no, no. Just call her Phasma, Bob. Just call her Phasma.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Awesome, awesome new suit for her and Ms. Marvel. The Captain Marvel suit? What a downgrade. That was horrible. One of the worst suits in mcu history i think no color in it it looks off it looks like a zack snyder suit horrendous wait which one captain marvel's i thought it was like red and blue and yellow in the beginning of the movie it's like the vibrant red and blue and then she gets the new one and her logo is like huge on the chest and then it's like the red is almost like a brownish red and the blue is like a grayish blue i hated it i was like oh my god these two have some of the coolest costumes i've ever seen hers i would have sent it right back with that prince i would have been like you fucking bring out something else absolutely not her dress was
Starting point is 00:34:45 very dull the dress was the dress sweet yeah that looked like if you were to turn her into a disney princess that's what it would look like the outfit for sure yeah so that happens and they get the the brains hatching on the ship that looks like brains but they're eggs i thought that was going to be like a krang thing, like some kind of brain. And I don't know, man, I would have liked that. I would have been better. That would have. I also will say I enjoyed the Marvels bit that they had running the whole time.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Recall us the Marvels. And then they said Marvels. Oh, it's catching on. Yeah. Professor Marvel. That entire thing like that was on MCU humor that I appreciated along the way. Right. So that was very good.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Brain's thing. I was, I was getting too excited for that. That's when I forgot, like I forgot about the expectations. I'm like, Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:35:32 There's going to be our big reveal. A fantastic four. I feel like Harry Styles is hatching right now. I am not going to be able to sleep. I'm not going to be able to sleep about two things. We didn't say in the Loki recap. One was that how the fuck did they not mention, again, when we were talking to Harry Styles, the goddamn giant Eternal that's just been out of the ground for God knows how long.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And I know some of the movies take place before the Eternals movie, but a lot of them have taken place after the Eternals movie. So that's just like mind-boggling shit. And there was something else in the Loki that happened loki that happened that just is no post credits right we didn't talk about that yes the no post credits that was offensive is they they cannot there has to be a fucking like agreement with the audience we will either give you a post-credit scene every single time or we will tell you in the beginning of the movie there is no post credits it's going to seem awkward but like you have like you have to do that you're marvel it's your thing
Starting point is 00:36:28 i also thought it was weird when star wars started doing them like you can't have other people copying you and then you just stop doing them especially when we're that invested which again started in secret invasion fuck secret invasion i can't believe that kevin Feige said that we will see if Harry Styles is going to be in. It's like, you can't have Harry fucking Styles, someone that is a huge name to introduce into the MCU, and then just say, oh, we'll see. What do you mean by that? Like, what do you mean by that? It's crazy to me i think that's the biggest sign of how much they've lost like their direction or timeline or whatever they're trying to do because you can't
Starting point is 00:37:13 introduce a major character like that someone who's who's said to be thanos's brother and you're having him played by a huge pop star like one of the most famous people on Earth, and then say, oh, we'll see. We'll see when. No, I need to know when. That and the other post-credit scene for that movie was the Jon Snow one. Is that ever going to pay off either? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah, it's so dumb. And Roy Kent from Hercules. Roy Kent, Charlize Theron. All of these post-credit scenes for this phase. Are any of them going to pay off? Any of them. It's crazy. Any Harry Styles fan would know too. The MC used to do it right. They used to do it in
Starting point is 00:37:53 One Direction. I had to look it up to see if he was in One Direction before I said that because I don't know if he was in that one. He was, yeah. You got to walk a fine line with stuff like that oh it's an album title yeah i don't know that watermelon sugar is that him too yes i have a daughter a nine-year-old daughter i'm learning my harry styles right now
Starting point is 00:38:18 yeah yeah yeah um then then you get all of the the hatching of the brains and their cats, just like a goose is. So they're cats, but they're alien cats. Then you get the next acid trip sequence where they decide we don't have as many evacuation pods as we need. So the way we're going to get all these humans in the evacuation pods is we're going to let the cats, the flerken. Is that what I think? Flerken? We're going to let the cats the flerken is that what they i think flerken we're gonna let them swallow the humans so that just like every cat swallows five or six humans with their tentacles the humans were terrified running away from these cats like there's a horror movie while midnight from cats plays disturbing i didn't know if i was in on it i don't know if i was out on it i'll tell you what it had the theater cracking. Like my theater was really laughing for it. So I was like, I guess it's working. Like, who am I to say it's not working if the whole theater's laughing? But I was certainly like,
Starting point is 00:39:13 all right, now we're off the reservation and goofiness. Like how are they breathing in there? I'm supposed to believe these five guys can breathe inside the belly of a cat. So goofy, but not as bad as the singing planet in terms of swings. Yeah. I thought it was very funny. I also was like a little nauseous. Like I don't, I don't like what the tentacles come out of his mouth. It's so gross. I will say goose is one of the saving like parts of the Marvels for me. I love goose. I love a great animal side sidekick, especially a cute animal sidekick.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Like in Shang-Chi, I love that little fluffy guy that was – The little pillow. Yeah, he was so cute. I forget his name. Maurice, I think. What's his name? Maurice. Maurice.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I think that was it. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, he was so cute. So I love Goose. I just hate when the tentacles come out because it actually makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah. So, again, I was in the back of the theater, and I think I was texting you guys like, yeah, it's been pretty good. The only thing is there's one trippy part.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And then I looked up from my phone, and I just saw that all the cats were eating everyone. And I was like, I don't know what the fuck's going on right now. And I didn't realize that they were telling them, like, get eaten by the cats. We need to get you this gay pod. So I was like, I don't know what the fuck's going on right now. And I didn't realize that they were telling them like get eaten by the cats. We need to get you this gay pod. So I was like, Oh boy, I'm kind of lost.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And I will say, I thought the goose having like being this like crazy creature with tentacles was a good twist when we found out about it. And we found out he's the one who like got Fury's eye. I felt like, I was like, all right, it's a little too much to just do an entire thing about it,
Starting point is 00:40:44 but whatever it's done, they did it. And it was like, it was a good, it was a decent gag, but yeah, like I was like, all right, it's a little too much to just do an entire thing about it, but whatever. It's done. They did it. And it was like it was a good it was a decent gag. But yeah, like I was like, well, this isn't the craziest shit I saw in this movie. But that's only because there was a planet that wasn't even good. So it was it was a very weird thing. But in the end, it's like, whatever. It's different. It's fun. They took a chance. Again, they took a chance. Right. Not yet. Not horrible. It's just weird, I guess is the the biggest thing i could have for this weird scene i liked when bruce was riding on uh brie larson's shoulder for some of it i was like oh that's fucking cool they're gonna make a fun copop of that immediately and then you get the final fight scene with the
Starting point is 00:41:21 villain ben hair it's it's it is what it is it. It's fine. It's more of that power swapping thing. Ms. Marvel does a lot of the jumping on shit. We might need to make the new hashtag Ben Hare. Ben Hare might have to be the hashtag. Because I just love that we can just name him. Den Bar. What is it? Rose Ann Bar?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Dar Ben? Bar Den? Dar Darden. James Barden? Dar Ben. Dar Ben. Dar Ben. Yeah. dar ben barden dart dart barden james james barden dar ben dar ben yeah the final fight sequence i don't have a lot to add although i will say this i mentioned on one of our loki recaps that they spoiled the ending of the movie with one of the few images they put out they fucking did one of the few images they put out was the three marvels standing there holding the bangle that they were trying to get from the villain the whole time.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And I saw that and I was like, I'm pretty sure that bangle is the one they're trying to get from the bad guy. That was for sure from the end of the movie. I don't know why they put that image out, but they did. They got the bangle and they, you know, figure out, Ms. Marvel could just save everything. So she saves everything. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:42:23 That ending, it's just like, we did saves everything that's it's so stupid that ending it's just like we did all that for nothing like i i feel like it kind of has something similar to no way home when like that whole thing could have just been prevented if if peter berger just like used his brain a little bit and like did it like make dr strange change time so he could go to college like are these are our favorite superheroes just dumb do we gotta accept that make Dr. Strange change time so he could go to college. Are our favorite superheroes just dumb? Yeah, exactly. We're going through that whole
Starting point is 00:42:52 fucking thing just for them to be like, oh yeah, by the way, Captain Marvel, you could have just flew through the sun and fixed everything. It just makes... It's so anticlimactic. Yeah, and the way the villain died too, where she goes out and uses the bangles and blows up.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It was just like, ugh. I will say this thing about the villain. I'm still not sure. I'm going to say Darben. Bob, what were you saying? I like that one. Ben-Hare? Ben-Hare. Ben-Hare.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I like the kind of like... I like that she called her what was the name she was calling Captain Marvel like the the Annihilator I like being able to see another group's perspective on someone that we consider a hero and they're like no you're the villain in our
Starting point is 00:43:37 world I actually appreciated that and I did like some of the flashback shit and I think more flashback stuff would have probably been better and maybe like care about the Kree more and everything but they just didn't do that for whatever reason so i will say like when you see when she's blowing up the computer she thinks it's good they think it's bad and everything falls apart so i will say the flashback was kind of cool another good thing about the marvels not it didn't suck hashtag it didn't suck and then you get kind of like the epilogue of the movie where you see uh brie larson's character is gonna look over the rambo house just until maria gets back because maria
Starting point is 00:44:16 had to go close that warp hole in space and she gets caught on the other end so immediately you're like oh which universe is she gonna wind up in they kind of tease it they wait they make you wait till the post credits but she's like i'm gonna take care of this and uh they you know they're loading stuff into the new house and whatnot and then we see a little tease for the young avengers which was a very welcome surprising tease where we see kate bishop we see pizza dog from hawkeye was like oh shit that's We see pizza dog from Hawkeye. I was like, Oh shit, that's a fucking pizza dog from Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:44:47 She comes in, throws it a slice. And then we get kind of a beat for beat first ever post-credit scene. The one from Iron Man, though, you're a part of a bigger universe. You just don't know it yet. Where Kamala is playing the role of Nick Fury,
Starting point is 00:45:00 talking to Haley Steinfeld, setting up the young Avengers. I did not expect to get that in this movie. Another one where I really appreciated it, like Valkyrie and Kate Bishop, two cameos I never would have expected in a billion years, but it worked well. And it was kind of that girl power thing saying it, but not, or showing it, but not saying it, you know, not like shoving it in your face. It exists and they're going to team up now.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah. I love Kate Bishop. I think Kate Bishop is one of my more favorite characters from these recent stuff, her and Yelena. So I hope that her and Yelena like somehow come back together. So I, and I love Haley Seinfeld. I think she's awesome. And she's actually a really great actress. So I was excited because I kind of forgot about Hawk. Like I forgot about her a little bit because she hasn't really been in anything new. And he said, I love that. I love what she's like. And I heard like Ant-Man has a daughter too.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Like I think that's cute. It'll be fun to have like a new group. I just feel like I just don't know if it'll ever be as strong as the original squad. And they better do it quick because these young Avengers are all like 25. So are they going to be young? If they do this in five years, they're all going to be 30? We're going to have a Stranger Things issue going on here where they're going to be just as old as the old Avengers were when they did the first Avengers, right?
Starting point is 00:46:14 I can definitely see that. Yeah, I almost appreciated how she was kind of stumbling upon her, stumbling on her words and couldn't get the delivery like Nick Fury would. And it's kind of like, well, that's kind of what the MCU is now. It had kind of a plan, and now it's just kind of this younger version of itself, and it doesn't really make sense. But that was our lesser of the two credit scenes, and I was like, that worked. That was good.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And my expectations for this movie are severely tempered for any kind of Young Avengers. I don't think it's going to be anywhere close to any of the, not even just the Avengers, but any of the top tier Marvel stuff. I will say Kamala's family, they moved to New Orleans, right? Did they just move there because their house was destroyed? Which is a wild move. Like, Bob, imagine moving to New Orleans because your apartment. No.
Starting point is 00:47:04 That would have been. No. Moving with Mincy. Yeah. I would have said, if we just got to stop fellas as a post-credits, that would have made my fucking year. It would have been very much. Welcoming him into the neighborhood. 99% of the people would have understood what was going on.
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Starting point is 00:48:29 Flex for the people on YouTube right now. Show that pre-workout. There it is. Show both the guns. Now the big post-credits scene. Mid-credits scene, I should say. The post-credits meow, not worth staying for. I couldn't believe I stayed for the post-credits. I wound up being a fucking meow. be in a fucking meow the mid credits oh this was awesome this was good this was really good this
Starting point is 00:48:50 made me feel good about the future of the mcu this made me feel good about the connectivity because it feels like it's going right into deadpool 3 we see maria wake up in this hospital bed but it kind of looks like not your average hospital, not just a normal hospital on earth at least. And then she wakes up and next to her is her mom, but like young, like same age as her maybe. And she's like, mom, like what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:49:13 Her mom doesn't know what's going on. They're both confused. And then the door opens in walks, Kelsey Grammer's beast from the X-Men. This was a fantastic casting at the time. And he didn't really get a good chance to play that character he played him for i think one movie i think he was just in x3 the last stand which a lot of people say is the weakest of the trilogy it probably is so the fact that he was
Starting point is 00:49:35 able to come back he went on lights camera barstool a couple years ago and like was basically begging to come back in this role so awesome he. He mentions Xavier. He drops like Charles has been asking about you. We were all like, oh my God, he said Charles. He said the name of Professor X, just losing it. And now we have a Rambo stuck with her mom in a different dimension, which I think is the Fox 20th century with like the X-Men universe. I would imagine they'll pick that right up in Deadpool 3. This was the post-credit scene i needed to leave the theater with a really good taste in my mouth so like this young avengers stuff got us looking up who was who are they going to put on the young avengers team and stuff like
Starting point is 00:50:14 everything about the way this movie ended was like all right they kind of put it on a t for the next movie bob i thought you were going to say this is what i needed to leave the theater with a boner i know that I thought that's what you were going with, because I might have been doing that. I mean, you were right, but I wasn't going to say it. You're not wrong. That's where
Starting point is 00:50:35 I was standing, too, because you know the X-Men, this was like the MCU has been in different states of like a tire fire for the last year, two years, whatever it may be, especially, I think quantum mania is when like there was the explosion and really got like, really like fiery and then secret invasion.
Starting point is 00:50:55 This Kelsey Grammer's sweet, sweet voice was like, like the little foam they use to like cover up the fire. And it just was like, I was like, ah, it's going to be all right. We talked about it. I think during the Loki finale, the next MCU movie is Deadpool three. They can't screw my feelings up between now.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And then unless, is there a show in between those two times? I think there's whatever, which is like the whole slate. Yeah. Whatever, which is like a cartoon. It's not part of the universe as much. it's like i'm good right now i'm good until whenever deadpool 3 ends up coming out
Starting point is 00:51:32 i am fine i am excited i'm gonna go down a whole bunch of youtube theory rabbit holes and all that shit about i saw heavy spoilers thinks it might be the, I think the Illuminati one from Dr. Strange, which I would rather, I'd rather it be an X-Men universe or a universe we've never met before. I don't really want to go back to the Dr. Strange one because like so much shit has happened in that universe. Obviously, thanks to Wanda. I kind of want to have something that's a little more fresh and unscathed and we could just really meet some fucking X-Men. Yeah, no, I. I. So, yes, I. more fresh and unscathed and we could just really meet some fucking X-Men. Yeah, no, I, so yes, I was, I feel like I was kind of younger when they first came out.
Starting point is 00:52:18 So like X-Men origins, which one is the one, the ones with like Jennifer Lawrence as this is not the one you want to be in on. No, no, no. That's like first class. Okay, I think it's first class I like. Origins, is that the one with Sophie Turner? No. So that's also
Starting point is 00:52:37 in the first class era that's Dark Phoenix. Origins is the one that originally has Ryan Reynolds as a bad version of Deadpool. Okay. Kevin Bacon is Sebastian Stan, right? That's in one of those.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Oh, that's a good one. So I apologize for like my, my reaction, but so there was a time back in the day on KFC radio where one of the people who worked for us, Charlie Wisco talked to KFC and said, he thought Nintendo 64 was the first ever Nintendo,
Starting point is 00:53:07 not knowing the Nintendo. I grew up on with the old Mario brothers and super Nintendo. And when you said X-Men origins, I'm thinking Bobby's talking about the original X-Men movie that had, you know, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine had a farm kid. Jansen has Jean gray, obviously Xavier.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And then I'm thinking the cartoon, which was in the 90s, neither of you were close to being born in the 90s. So I was just realizing my own mortality at that point when you said that. So I think you have a little bit of a homework assignment, Gia. You might have to catch up on some X-Men here because I am an X-Men diehard. I'm looking right now. I've definitely seen X-Men through X-Men X2. I've seen The Last Stand.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I've seen First Class. I've seen Days of Futures Past. But I don't think I've seen any. I never saw Logan. X-Men Apocalypse I never saw. Oh, Logan's really good. Yeah, Apocalypse is terrible. I refuse to acknowledge this.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah, Apocalypse is not good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're very hit and miss. Yeah, so I know Beast. I know everything about it. But I guess it doesn't do it for me quite as much as I feel like it does it for you guys. Maybe because I don't have as much of an emotional connection to X-Men.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I really like Deadpool, too. But yeah, I don't know i i feel like i'm really interested to see how the merging of the x-men with the avengers is gonna go and hopefully they don't do it in like a cheesy way i don't know yeah no they gotta nail it because they haven't nailed it in the comics they did an avengers versus x-men comic in like 2012 wasn't good which you know it's tough because you want them to play off like the best comics. Like they were able to do the whole infinity gauntlet war storyline by loosely basing it off of the stuff that had come before it.
Starting point is 00:54:55 That one, not great, but this is good. You know, they'll have to really prove themselves to Gia, me and Clem. Just the nostalgia is going to, we're going to be like, that was awesome. No matter what. From the cartoon. And I was like, that was awesome! No matter what. They did the da-da-da-da-da-da-da from the cartoon and I was like, oh, it was a puddle when they did that in the movie. Listen, Robbie, like you said, with the source
Starting point is 00:55:13 material, they have to go somewhere between the Infinity Gauntlets, the Infinity Saga, and Secret Invasion. That is their window. I think they can fit it somewhere within that window and we'll be all right with it. I never even really followed the X-Men versus the Avengers.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I thought the Avengers were kind of like the, like Walmart version of X-Men growing up. Cause X-Men were my shit. So, you know, and I, like, again,
Starting point is 00:55:39 I always thought Iron Man was this like loser nerd with a clunky suit. Then they made him, you know, wise cracking fucking Robert Downey Jr. And he was awesome and used all the modern technology. So that's kind of where I think we all stood with the MCU going into this phase was, man, they made the fucking Iron Man look cool. I can't imagine what they're going to do with all this other stuff plus Fantastic Four and
Starting point is 00:55:58 X-Men. You just play it safe and you hit singles and doubles with the X-Men. I'll honestly be thrilled. I also like was so bummed because I thought Sophie Turner would be such a good Jean Grey. I watched a little bit of the Apocalypse movie. I was like, I can't do this anymore. Gia, where do we stand on Sophie Turner? Is she an enemy of the Swifties?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Is she an ally of the Swifties? No. No, she's an ally. She's an ally. Taylor Swift gave her her apartment to stay in when she was like going through her divorce but now she's not an ally a friend though because fran is a joe are you a jonas diehard like fran i i am a i am a big jonas fan i'm not a diehard like francesca but i will i will say francesca would probably say the same thing that we still stand. Sophie, we still love her.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Okay. Okay. So you guys didn't get divorced. It was like, you guys are like, yeah, you know, we're like,
Starting point is 00:56:52 yeah, we still love our mom and dad. Like they may not love each other anymore, but, but our love for them is still there. You know, it's because Sophie, like,
Starting point is 00:56:59 how can you hate Sophie Turner? She's so fucking cool. Everything she does. She's the queen of the North. Everything she does is awesome. Like you can't not love her. And then Joe Jonas is so high. He's Joe Jonas.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Like you can't not love him too. All right. This is good for us to know in the basement. And they both dated Joe Jonas. So Sophie Turner and Taylor Swift both dated Joe Jonas. Oh, I didn't realize. I knew there was some sort of competition between them.
Starting point is 00:57:24 So there it is right there. Okay, so good to know. I just need to know where we stand because this Taylor Swift thing is clearly not going away anytime soon. It's only going to grow. So it's going to, I think everything's going to severely impact the MCU for the foreseeable future. Again, when she's dating Tom Hiddleston down the road
Starting point is 00:57:39 as I predicted, and that's going to come back. There were rumors about her potentially being in deadpool right or did we make that up there's still rumors no still rumors about it yeah so there was rumors initially then people kind of came out and said no those are just rumors that's not true and then more people came out and were like no no i'm pretty sure like she's gonna be in it so the initial rumor was that she might play an x-men called dazzler who is like the perfect character for her she's a singer she has power she's a pop star then it came out she might not
Starting point is 00:58:10 be playing dazzler she might be playing herself like deadpool might just meet taylor swift which would be a very deadpool like fourth wall breaking ryan reynolds thing she's like very good friends with ryan reynolds and blake lively like best friends she's also really good friends with Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, like best friends. She's also really good friends with Sean Levy. Yeah. Sean Levy. Yeah. Yeah. The director.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah. So I think that's like a very realistic thing that could happen. That poor guy was in all the pictures there when she was in the boxes, you know, football games. And it was like, who the fuck is this guy? And he's just like,
Starting point is 00:58:40 come on, man. Like I feel like he's a big deal for people that know him. But for everyone else, it's like that. When you're like next to Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds and all these other people, you are kind of like the other guy. Right. I mean, Robbie, we know that whenever we go out to like whenever Dave's with us and everyone's like Disney boys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:58 With Dave. Yeah, sure. Let me. Oh, it's an Android. OK, is that how I take the picture? There you go, sir. Hey, I was just I just went down to Soho with Glenny Balls to check out. And this is going to be in stool scenes, so look out for this.
Starting point is 00:59:09 A $25 million Infinity Gauntlet. This company made an Infinity Gauntlet, partnered with Marvel, so Marvel's in on it. And they use real diamonds, real gems, $25 million. So they took us down to the safe where it's held. We weren't allowed to film on our way down there because they took us down to the safe where it's held. We weren't allowed to film like on our way down there. Cause they don't want people to know where it is. Super secret, cool shit. They had an eye of Agamotto worth a couple million, crazy shit, right? I went down there and I was the other guy for Glenny balls, people coming up to balls, asking for selfies.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I was in the background of the selfies. Like Mike was asking on that magazine cover. It was great. Just seeing Glennys and his element like that was tremendous. I loved it. I heard Glennie's like the king of Nashville. Like you go to Nashville and you get in like the back, you get cut the lines if Glennie Balls is with you. Oh, yeah. Now let's do our fast food review. We do a little fast food review for every movie.
Starting point is 01:00:05 We compare the movie to a fast food item. Now with mine, I went fast casual, not just fast food. I didn't know where to go with this. I'm going to say Ms. Marvel for me was a Chipotle burrito that I watched the worker make wrong. So the whole time he was making it, I was like, I don't think he made that the way I asked him to make it. I'm pretty sure he put like beans in there and I'm not a beans guy, but I felt too uncomfortable to tell him, Hey, that you made my thing. So I'm going to eat it. I know I'm not going to love it, but it's going to be fun. It's Chipotle. I was a similar vibe to you, Rob. I compared it to the bringing back of the chicken fries from Burger King. So not the
Starting point is 01:00:49 OG chicken fries, but the new ones that they brought back. They just don't hit the same for some reason. You get the nostalgia, you get what you want out of it, kind of get what you need, but it just doesn't feel the same as when you were a kid, you know, coming home from a basketball game and your mom says you can get Burger King. And yeah, it's like, it's like, it'll, it does what it needs to do, but it just, it's not the same. Yeah. I am amazed you just said that. Cause I was right there with you. Basically I was saying at some point Burger king changed their nuggets and i'm repeating these are the worst nuggets ever and i'm like and i think i went to mcdonald's burger king and i got the nuggets forgetting the reviews and then i had them like oh yeah like these aren't that good i was like but i was
Starting point is 01:01:39 expecting like inedible slop basically and it was better than that right i was like they're fucking nuggets you can't screw up nuggets you can like the fucking nuggets. You can't screw up nuggets. You can't screw up chicken fries. You can't screw up Chipotle. So it's like, I had it. I was fine. I was able to sleep at night. Could have been better, but it could have been worse. And I think, I think we've been hashtag. It didn't suck. Yeah. Didn't suck, which is a positive. You know, we, we came into this saying if it's even average,
Starting point is 01:02:04 we're going to be pleasantly surprised and i think it was average i felt pleasantly surprised we got a nice kickoff to the next era of marvel with it so you know what it didn't suck if you're if you're listening to the end of the podcast i was going to say go see it if you're listening to it the podcast at this point you've probably seen it or you've probably made up your mind but yeah if you're a marvel fan go get popcorn at the movie theater i got a big icy it was worth it for the popcorn and icy i also i'm scared that i'm i'm scared that i'm always just gonna have a little bit of a marvel bias like they could put out a literal piece of poop and i would watch it on on the in the theater be like it wasn't that bad like it was funny like it had parts that were good there's i just marvel
Starting point is 01:02:45 will always have like a special place in my heart that i'll never be able to fully bash a movie unless it's secret invasion yes so i was gonna say i'm almost like my dumb sports fan brain it's like with uh i can always talk myself oh it's gonna be right if this guy comes up or that guy comes up with the giants right now to Tommy DeVito playing quarterback, I'm like, we are not watchable. I don't even get mad during games. I'm like, we're just going to suck and it's going to be embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And I can't, like, I don't know if Marvel can ever hit that point. Gee, you remind me, they hit that point with Secret Invasion. I'll look back at the Tommy DeVito years, like, well, it could be worse. It could be Secret secret invasion level of bad but i think we're gonna be okay moving forward at least that's what i hope so and marvels is hopefully the very slow like trek back up by the way the the reviews of the marvels on rotten
Starting point is 01:03:34 tomatoes from the audience isn't that bad i think i think it was such bad like going into it people didn't even want to review bomb it or you know i think they had a little bit more like protective like devices set up so people can't review bomb as much but it's not even just getting just killed on the reviews which i guess is nice it didn't suck i feel like the people that were going to review bomb it or give it those like reviews that they wrote before they even saw the movie probably just stayed away this time they were probably like i'm not even seeing the movie which you know make that choice i would rather than not see it was sick of being toxic yeah i agree yeah i want to say one last thing about that movie and like the review by me that just reminded me because it is a very
Starting point is 01:04:14 woman-based movie like the three main characters are women the villains a woman valkyrie like everybody's coming in i love it this is a woman apparently we just found out exactly so I will say I really liked the three of their dynamic the three women like Monica and Kamala and Captain
Starting point is 01:04:38 DeCarol and I think Marvel's has been doing a better job of putting women superheroes getting their own movies and shows and not making it like that cheesy aspect of like, oh, we're women and we're going to fight together because like we all are women. I liked how they never really addressed like any parts of like, oh, we're a girl squad. I like that part of it. I feel like they never even brought that up. Yeah. Yeah. They never're a girl squad. I like that part of it. I feel like they never even brought that up.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah. Yeah. They never brought it up. And, and, and I liked that because I feel like it should just happen naturally. And I feel like even having a woman villain, like everything about it felt very natural to me. Like I honestly wasn't, I didn't even think like, oh my God, this is like a,
Starting point is 01:05:21 one of the only women centcentric superhero Marvel movies at least. And I think they did that in a very good job. Yeah, if they had done like a triple high five and said girl power all at once, it would have been fun. They didn't do that, and I appreciate them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you have it. That's our Marvel's reaction review. Not as bad as we thought.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Hashtag it didn't suck. We'll be back next week. I don't know what we're going to do for the show next week, though, because now we don't have Marvel shows reaction review. Not as bad as we thought. Hashtag it didn't suck. We'll be back next week. I don't know what we're going to do for the show next week, though, because now we don't have Marvel shows to recap. We don't have Star Wars shows to recap. So in between now and next week, we're going to figure out something to do. I know, Clem, we talked about doing maybe like a Wire recap with Trent or something, if we could get him involved, because he loves The Wire. And I've never seen The Wire. It's your favorite show of all time.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Maybe we'll do something like that. If you're interested, you know, let us know. We'll figure out something to do, though. Yeah. You know, I think Marvel is going to give us a couple of like little nuggets now that the strikes are over. I feel like we're going to they're going to try to build up on this. So hopefully we get a couple of little breadcrumbs. What does Ken Jack said?
Starting point is 01:06:21 Give the pigs a slop. Hopefully get a little bit of slop for us to get all excited about maybe yeah fantastic forecasting we're still looking out for that apparently it's like any day now they'll announce the fantastic four yeah hopefully some news will break until uh from now until then and uh thank you for watching the show make sure to give us a thumbs up on youtube if you're watching on youtube if you're on the podcast feed and you haven't given us a review on there we we'd appreciate that as well. Still, the climb to 50,000 for the end of the year subscribers on YouTube. We will see you next week.

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