My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 314 - THANKSGIVING NERD NEWS

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

Robbie and Clem hop into the Basement on Thanksgiving Eve to discuss the nerd news of the week! Topics include our thoughts on Pedro Pascal as Mr Fantastic/Reed Richards and Nicolas Hoult as Lex Luthor, Dave Filoni's promotion at Lucasfilm, What If? Season 2 dropping over the holidays, and Thanksgiving itself! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! C4: Grab the new C4 Ultimate Energy WWE flavors today at GNC, online, or find them near you at https://FindC4.com. Factor: Head to https://FACTORMEALS.com/robbie50 and use code robbie50 to get 50% off. ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3C and a very special Thanksgiving week edition of My Mom's Basement. Let's start by saying I'm thankful to everyone listening to this that has listened to this show, that has watched this show. Thankful to all of the guests that have joined us on this journey. But the one I'm most thankful to is my co-host Clem for being here from the beginning on My Mom's Basement. Here we are about three years later. Clem, how are you? Has the chaos started in your household yet? Yes.

Thank you, Robbie. I'm thankful for you as well. I'm thankful to everyone out there, the Basement basin boys and girls obviously everyone we've had on um i'm gonna begrudgingly say i'm thankful to like a lot of the people in charge of all the different projects we have to cover i mean feige we were basically sucking his dick at this time like last year and every year before then now it's like you're still on the thing he's still on the christmas card list it's like you know he's he's moving down though i will say that. Thanksgiving might get contentious.

There's topics that might get contentious with you and Feige over the table. If I have a couple high noons and I'm just feeling myself, I might just go on a little bit of a rampage or something like that. But nonetheless, the kids were off today, Wednesday. We're taping this November 22nd. Last night, actually actually i don't know if this is going to be uh kosher not in some people's eyes it definitely won't be kosher uh but they we kind of just read someone my wife just decided to ring in the christmas uh spirit last night she threw on christmas songs i heard as she was making dinner we heard mariah

carey heard some kelly clarkson and then uh the kids wanted to have a little uh we did like the arrow bed in the living room a little movie night and we watched uh santa claus with tim allen which by the way first like 20 minutes it's a lot of uh hey santa real and i was like i mean we looked at each other like five times every time they said something about believing in santa or santa not being real and i'm just like god damn it like you just hit a fucking box and so we did that so we kind of kicked off christmas a little bit early um but i think once you're off from school all things go i respect the bird but if she's gonna you know let it ride i'm not gonna say no yeah mama fox always said that christmas season began when you see santa at the end of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

I always liked that, but I'll be honest. They've been decorating the office for our Black Friday Cyber Monday telethon, and it's Christmas all over the place. We got lights. We got trees. We got presents. It really put me in the mood. I was in yesterday, and it kind of made me want to watch a Christmas movie. I wound up not watching a Christmas movie, but I'm fully in the mood now.

We were texting about the Bear Christmas episode. Yep. I have a take. I'm going to publish it on Monday, but we can talk about it now if you want. I think Fish's Bear Season 2 episode, which is like Episode 5-ish, I think it's a Christmas movie. And I think you should watch it every holiday season like you do whatever Christmas movies you want. National Lampoons. Not you, Robbie, obviously. Home Alone. Elf. Die Hard if you want to get into the mix of whether or not it's a Christmas movie. And I'm telling you, just think about it. What is a movie?

It's a piece of cinematic work, in this case fictional. A bunch of great actors. That cast, for that one episode of TV, goes up against basically any cast of any Christmas movie ever. It's long enough. I feel like it's extra long. It has tells the entire story. It doesn't you don't really have to be attached to anything that happens before or after that episode in the show. And it's just a good ass time, man.

So I think it checks out. So I will be adding that to the rotation. So we've already crossed Santa Claus off and now we've added the bear pitches episode. I couldn't agree more. I already thought about re-watching it. I will note for all the people that haven't seen it yet and are like, oh, maybe I'll check out this show, The Bear. This is not going to make you feel good

like other Christmas shows and episodes and movies will, but it'll remind you of certain elements of Christmas, or at least it should. I think every family at least has a little element of that chaos, probably not to that level. Well, I would say hopefully it's almost definitely not to that level. If you're to that level, I apologize. It's tough.

Um, but reminder, I want to remind everyone quick. We are still trying to hit that 50,000 subscriber goal by the end of the year. We're pretty close right now. I think we're 46 something. Um, the first year we did this podcast, I think we hit 10,000 at the end of the year. Next year we hit 35,000. I think it would be a good look for us to at least hit 50 by the end of the year. Also follow us on Tik TOK or Tik TOK has been a little stagnant for a while. I post Tik TOKs. I don't check I post TikToks. I don't check TikToks. I don't know the frigging trends and I don't know all that.

So I got to get better with that in the new year. But we are, I think, at My Mom's Basement podcast. It's a long one. One more thing to get out of the way before we get into a huge slate of news. I interviewed Adam Lazara from Taking Back Sunday this week. That will be out on Friday. So if you're a music fan taking back Sunday fan, we were supposed to go like 30 minutes.

I think we went 50. He was such a cool guy sitting on the porch, smoking cigarettes, the whole interview, like a true rock star. And we talked about the whole new album. We talked about, he just surprised like a diehard set of fans at their wedding.

They didn't know he was coming out. The whole band came out and did a song for them. They set it up through the bridesmaid. Great stories. Great rock and roll stories. Great life stories. So check that out. Now we've got a lot of news to get into.

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The first thing, very My Mom's Basement-centric, with all of our shows, one of our favorite actors coming to one of our favorite universes pedro pascal has been cast as mr fantastic reed richards in the fantastic four i think this is the most official casting we've gotten vanessa kirby seems like a shoo-in for sue storm at this point the way they're talking about the way she's talking about it, but this is concrete, I think. Reed Richards will be the Mandalorian, Oberyn, Joel from The Last of Us. I said he's nearing Chris Pratt levels of

just being in everything, cast in everything. He's going to be the voice of everything, but I'm okay with it. Chris Pratt, he's great. Pedro Pascal, he might be better. I think he's a better actor for sure so i'm i'm down i am down we love him we love him he's our boy if you ever come to the basement more than happy to have you it's again it's tough when you have like two characters that the same guy plays that are

very big deal in your life and you kind of have to separate them again. I always used to say Karketty and Littlefinger, that actor. But this guy, he's like seven different fucking monster characters in my mind already. So it's like I don't need one more just being – and listen, we're not talking like he's going to be some bit role or even like the Silver Surfer or something that may make an appearance here or there. Fucking Mr. Fantastic is the biggest non-X-Men character

we're going to be introduced to. Maybe the biggest for some people, considering how big the Fantastic Four is in the Marvel Universe. In fact, they just threw this guy who, like you said, Last of Us, Game of Thrones, Mandalorian. Thank God. You always have this conversation. We talk about it. And you're like, Clem, you don't really see him as Mandalorian. I'm like, no, the helmet is the Mandalorian in Thank God. I don't like when you, you always have this conversation, we talk about it

and you're like, you don't really see him as Mandalorian. I'm like, no, the helmet is the Mandalorian in my mind. I know his voice is there, but it's kind of has the alteration with like the machine inside. So I don't even really associate with Mandalorian. Thank God I don't because my old brain can't take this. And Bob, the most fucking sick and twisted thing of all, everyone keeps telling me how good he is in Narcos. You're like, oh, no, he's the Narcos guy. He's the Narcos guy. Paying you, paying you.

My sick brain, after I heard this announcement, I was like, I'm kind of in a mood for some Pedro Pascal. So I started Narcos. And now I have that guy in my brain, too. I just threw another character in my brain when I could have just avoided it until after the Fantastic Four. I said, nope, let's just go straight into the storm. And he's fucking awesome in that as well so it is weird that I think Marvel could have went with someone that was still awesome still a big name and not 18 characters that are still in active monster shows but uh hey man his fucking agent is honestly maybe like the the biggest power player in Hollywood since uh Ari Gold was

making Benny J's a superstar and Matty Ian and Aquaman and all that stuff. I'm going to make a big comparison here, and I can't truly like make the comparison one to one because I wasn't alive for his heyday. But is Pedro Pascal becoming just going to sound crazy or errors like Harrison Ford in a way in that harrison ford was han solo in indiana jones and then he was in fucking blade runner and then he played the president like he was so many big roles in such a short amount of time and i'd imagine if there was a podcast back in the 80s there'd be two hosts like this dog and like i can't separate harrison ford he's got too many big characters at this point but he's kind of reaching that level of like everyone fucking knows pedro pascal and he's like beloved i don't know anyone that doesn't like him and that's probably why he keeps getting the roles

like this guy's fucking great he's a great actor as well so why why not do that that's a good point harrison ford there i never thought about that comparison who's harrison ford when i say harrison ford to you and i know your affinity for a certain franchise but is he anything is he he's solo to me forever but he's also indiana jones after that pretty much i could throw it like this will hurt blade runner fans i could throw a blade runner out the window yeah that's fair and i'm with you i there's almost a part of me that sees him almost as indy more because star wars does he's han solo isn't the lead in star wars and it's been i mean other than his little appearance of force awakens it's been forever since he was just han solo for an entire movie so i could see actually he's in force awakens a lot i take that back uh but nonetheless i always

think harrison ford i think is that first but maybe it kind of just becomes Harrison Ford is like when I see him on screen. I'm like, that's Harrison Ford. That is not Indiana Jones. That is not. He's become like so big. Maybe it's just Pedro Pascal is going to just be himself. It's like Pedro Pascal is now into the MCU and now he's in the Star Wars galaxy. And now he's fucking killing drug dealers, all this kind of shit.

So very big news for Marvel. This is the thing, though. You know you're going to get a good performance, right? So you're going to at least get that. I didn't know Reed Richards had that Spanish kind of twist to him they decided to go with here. Yeah, I don't think he generally does in the comics, but I think they threw it in there.

People are saying Silver Surfer might be a woman in this, which is already making certain legions of people very upset. I've also seen, speaking of Indiana Jones, the last Indiana Jones villain, Mads Mikkelsen, who is a great actor and a very good performance in that Indiana Jones movie, has been reached out to about playing Dr. Doom. Allegedly, rumors, blah, blah, blah. I think that would be an awesome casting. He has that face where he could flip a switch and make you fear him very quickly. And he has almost that almost a monotone,

uh, voice reminds me a little bit of Alan Rickman, like, uh, uh, Hans. Yes. Yup.

That's a good one. That's, that's a good comparison. He's, uh, he just looks like someone that would play – what was his name? Victor Doom? Yeah, Victor Von Doom.

Victor Von Doom. And if you told me where is – let me get the – Mads Mikkelsen? Is that the – like where is he from? I'd say Laveria. And that's where Dr. Doom is from. He does have that foreign, European-ish, I've never heard of your country kind of look to him so i and he's an he's awesome actor i i was like i never knew his name i'm just like that guy he's he's i actually talked to large about this and he was telling me that apparently he'll come to the u.s he'll like bang out his movies crush the roles and then he goes

back to wherever he's from off it's like denmark or something and he does these little small movies and just like wins the uh oscars or whatever yeah he just he did that with another round which i haven't seen but people love apparently there's this movie another round i think it's in finnish is that what they speak in denmark god i'm really showing off how dumb i am right now um but people loved it and said it was like such a feel-good movie i know it was one one of Jeff's like top rated of the year was on movie rankings. Check it out there. But yeah, I think that would be a great casting.

Also, John Hamm threw his name in the hat. John Hamm was like, I would love the opportunity to play Dr. Doom at the MCU. Really? So that's another one where Mr. Fantastic,

we went through a bunch of castings. We thought Adam Driver was going to play him at one point. We thought Jake Gyllenhaal was going to play him at one point. It was like throwing around a bunch of names. If Mads can't do it, but Jon Hamm can, I like that. I've also seen rumors about Cillian Murphy. Nothing to substance. It seems more fan casting than anything.

But Cillian Murphy is Doom would be the creme de la creme in my mind. I mean, he's the man right now. Yeah, I got to rewatch Oppenheimer now with subtitles and really understand what the hell is going on. Maybe that's he's the man right now. Yeah, I gotta re-watch Oppenheimer now with subtitles and really understand what the hell's going on. Maybe that's on the list for this weekend. Alright, you know what? I'm just gonna say it. We had our takes. We gave our

peace of mind. I have to say, though, and this is how I feel every time after I think about this casting decision. I honestly, I love Pedro Pascal. I wish they had just gone someone else. There's so many other actors in Hollywood. I think we need, I need a Pedro Pascal break. You know what I mean?

There is part of me that agrees. Like when I saw it, my initial reaction wasn't like, yes. It was like, oh, all right. Like, well, yeah, all right. You know, and I love him. If there was seven actors in Hollywood, I could live with it. There's like 700 million actors in Hollywood. And like Krasinski would have been fine.

There's probably – Penn Badgley I think was up for it. I think he would have been good to be honest. I don't know if you know him. He's in that show You. Let me take a look here at the – He was up for – I mean there's definitely – Yes.

Yes, I know him. Reed Richards in the end is just kind of like generic nerd who stretches like he's not you know it's very specific personality type that you have to nail and it's like oh you can't like miscast like i think reed richards can be played by a lot of the top names in hollywood yeah and i feel like he's he could be you could be able maybe because i'm watching monarchos now he could be kind of a ladies man in but it's like i don't need richard's to be that i wonder if like i don't know if john ham really would like do the kind of role that would do good for readers but even like a handsome older man could work till you throw a little salt and pepper in that head and a cumberbatch i think

would have been perfect i mean he's he's dr strange but i watched that performance sometimes i'm like he would be a fucking great reed richards now imagine if you know benedict cumberbatch like he then went to star wars and they started a star wars franchise and be like that you don't really need to do that guys we already have him as doctors like it's the same kind of thing so it's like i like the character i like the actor i'm happy for the actor i know he's going to deliver but you can't tell me that was the only guy that would have mattered and again this kind of comes back to it's a good thing it's probably a safe it's probably like aim small miss small but at the same point it's like did you guys really need to do because think about it there's a very good chance fantastic for the last of us and the mandalorian will all have

like a new project within what a year of each other the way everything falls and it's like i don't need to see joel mr fantastic and mando all on the fucking same screen by the same fucking person so oh and don't forget gladiator 2 he's in that that's going to be around that time and he's i think he's a big part of that i think he's like one of the leads in that i mean again his agent is the fucking true real story yeah He's absolutely crushing And I mean, if you think about it, Medellin was about the cartel And Pablo Escobar, which is exactly what Narcos is about Let me just say this

Quick little side here Narcos is fucking awesome And everyone has told me how awesome it was Have you seen Blow? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Blow, yeah Not Narcos It's very much like Blow In terms of you have this character narrating everything Except it's not narcos yeah so it's basically it's very much like blow in terms of you have

this character like narrating everything except it's from the law enforcement side and it's straight up like the pablo escobar story they're telling and it's incredible it's like real history they show real clips of some stuff but then there's all the like um acting shit i don't know how to like it's dramatized dramatized yeah that's perfect and i was like like 20 minutes and i'm like i'm hooked and it's just as good as it is that if not more so i cannot recommend it enough but again the only problem with it is that now i have another goddamn pablo pascal and pedro pascal in my head pablo pascal that's gonna fuck you up too now you're watching pablo escobar pedro pascal and i'll be honest with you bob i probably have slipped in the past. I get Pablo in my head when I see him sometimes,

so I don't even know because there's a lot of peas flying around. I'm old. Pablo Sandoval, that's a baseball player, right? Wow! Shout out to Rocket. The Kung Fu Panda. Is he a Red Sox? He was a very hated Red Sox during his time in Boston.

He might have won a World Series because they were such a fucking wagon. But, yeah, he's like, if Darren he's, the way he is the way he played is what Frank would make you think Darren Ruff was with the Mets. Except for Darren Ruff with like 10 at-bats with the Mets and with like one for 10, you would think he was Pablo Sandoval who just got fatter

every year, worse every year, and like had a god-awful contract. Well, speaking of villain castings we just talked to Doom we have a Lex Luthor in Superman Legacy Nicholas Holt has been cast as Lex Luthor

in James Gunn's new Superman movie Nicholas Holt was up for the role of Superman actually in this movie and David Cornswet beat him out for it David Cornswet was seen in the gym this week he looks like he fucking bulked up to wwe levels for this role which everyone knew he was going to do but people were still when he got cast like he's too skinny it's like the fuck do you think he's not going to get on hollywood drugs allegedly you know but you think he's not going to get on

hollywood steroids and fucking become superman allegedly reportedly rumored also uh sarah sampeo is cast as lex luther's assistant eve test mocker sarah sampeo from my brief research is not much of an actress but she was a victoria's secret model who's getting into acting james gunn knows how to cast him and skylar gizondo cast as jimmy olsen a great character another like great casting this guy looks like he's jimmy olsen straight out of the comics like he looks like a little nerd i'm taking a look at all three of these guys right now are people um and i don't think i've seen them in anything so i nicholas holt you haven't seen either have you seen the menu or mad max no so that's the thing is that when when this when the

licks luther got announced i just went to the imdb and i'm like nope nope nope nope nope nope nope so i am oh for three blank slate which is sometimes a good thing right i'm surprised pedro pascal didn't get a fucking role and you're like you want to shave that head yeah um so he's really good he's like a really good actor and really eclectic like you watch his performance in mad max and he plays a fucking psychopath he's like unrecognizable then you watch the menu and he plays such a almost like nuanced douchebag who you learn to hate throughout the course of the movie i think he plays that slimy role so well and the fact that he was up for superman and lost out and is now like playing superman's enemy there's got to be

a real life dynamic that bleeds in there so i really like all of these castings to be honest i mean the the next two i don't feel as strongly about but nicholas holt as lex luther i love i'm gonna do a little bit of fan fiction. I want everyone just to go along with him. We're going to all agree to do this in our minds because there's a chance he says this after it comes out in the interviews and stuff. James Gunn purposely had Nicholas Holt read for Superman knowing he was going to pass on him

to then hire him and cast him as Lex Luthor to give that extra oomph in terms of the hatred of Superman. And that's just the genius James Gunn at work. All right, boom. There's our clip. There's our completely unsubstantiated rumor. But we all just, like, if I'm Mandela effective for you guys, you're going to believe when the movie comes out. And we're all like, oh, my God, that was so good.

He fucking brought that kind of fire from the Guardians to the DCU. We're going to go back and say, oh, by the way, do you know that Nicholas Holt read for Superman? And it was only because James Gunn wanted him to really hate him because he didn't get the role. And he didn't even call him about Lex Luthor for months just to really let it hang out there. So, yeah, I've decided to do that right now. And as for Sarah Sampaio, very lovely lady. I'm very interested in what she would do. And this guy, Skyler

Gazando, is a straight-up nerd. He's a straight-up nerd. He's 5'7", too. He's a little guy. Jimmy has to be a little guy, it feels like. Yeah. Makes Superman look even bigger. Yep. We're not talking down to our short kings. We've got nothing but love for you guys. I think Jimmy needs to be kind of

a nerdy, boyish, shorter kind of dude to look with what's-his his name just jacked out of his mind. Apparently, I haven't seen these pictures. Have they been released? There's just one picture of him and you can't even you can't even really tell it's him. They could have just put out a picture of a bodybuilder. He's like sitting down in the gym looking down and you could just tell his arms are the size of my head. So he's been putting in the work.

I would like to see like a super comically big Superman. It would be kind of like the rock guys. Superman. Yeah. I guess. Adam ready. It was basically the same. You know,

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meets war games i'm just happy survivor series is still around has it have they because i'm happy they haven't straight from the thanksgiving tradition as well as that yeah consistent beautiful love to usually it's always november so it's like some some have it straight from the Thanksgiving tradition as well. Has that been consistent? Beautiful. Love to hear that. Usually, it's always November. So it's like sometimes it's like the weekend before Thanksgiving or something, but it's always pretty similar. I actually got to post the clip. My brother was texting me about it.

He just rewatched, I think, Survivor Series 89, and they start the pay-per-view with each superstar cutting a promo like this. They're like, I'll tell you what i'm thankful for brother and they each like say what they're thankful for the million dollar man's like money you know like it's like ridiculous but classic 80s early 90s wwf i like just hearing that stuff and thinking i could still see the uh vhs box at the video store i used to rent it those old school uh wrestling pay-per-views just warm my soul and it really does like it's funny how something you don't even watch anymore we just love to hear that they haven't changed everything too much like when people heard that homer was no longer choking bart people are up in arms about a 10

year old not getting choked in 2023 and then once they're like no no he's choking him though where i was like yes thank god what was the last time you watched sims in 2004 but i don't care as long as he's choking Bart still so i'm just happy to hear everything's the same i have to watch that old school clip though there's probably some gold back from those early um those early 90s papers oh yeah the gobbledygooker gobbledygook yeah that um let someone that lived through the gobbledygooker. Gobbledygook. Yeah, that. Someone that lived through the gobbledygooker. Let me tell you, that was. And this is before internet rumors and everything where they like build stuff up for you and whatever. Or you get like a tip.

That was the most disappointing moment of my life. Maybe as like a human, let alone a resident fan. Worse than the Phantom Menace, yeah. Yes. Because. Just because Darth Jar Jar never happened. That's the only reason. Yeah. Yes. I just, cause Darth Jar Jar never happened. That's the only reason.

Yeah, true. Yeah. But man, that was, that was absolutely brutal. And a little tip for people out there. I saw this on Instagram.

I got a targeted ad. They're very good on there. I've learned they re they're redoing wrestling buddies and they made, Oh yeah. They made a Hulk Hogan one. And I'll tell you bob usually i'm an i'm an educated consumer on the internet i like to you know go around i'll check my prices find my coupon codes get the free shipping all that kind of stuff i saw that and i

went click click click and just enter myself on my phone i didn't even go on the computer usually i do everything on the computer it's easier and i just see that thing in my house asap i have somehow not opened it i'm either giving it to myself for Christmas or I'm giving it to AJ for Christmas. But I'm telling you, I'm beating the shit out of that thing. I cannot wait. You and AJ in a handicap match against the wrestling buddy is going to be content, content, content. He said to me the other day, he goes, Dad, I wish I just had like a pillow I could beat up. I'm like, oh, buddy, you have no clue what's waiting for you right now.

It was always weird that you get your favorite guy and then kick the shit out of your favorite guy, right? Yeah. It's like no one wanted to get the million-dollar man and then like half him in your room. Like Sergeant Slaughter or something? Yeah. No. All right. So some Star Wars news that made me so happy yesterday to read when it came across the timeline on X.

I almost said Twitter. I don't like saying X. We do not say x on this on this podcast we do not acknowledge i haven't updated my app so it's still twitter oh that's awesome i'm so i was so mad when that happened to me i just saw it like oh i got got and that was a while ago i don't even know how that's possible it's been months yeah i still got it the bird at the top i still get twitter notifications it's great bob is just like he has 18 hackers just living in his phone because he hasn't updated his uh software in so long

um there's the news though dave filoni has been promoted to chief creative officer at lucasfilm where he will work directly with kathleen kennedy overseeing the future of star wars stories he's basically loki at this point it sounds like he's the god of stories Wars stories. He's basically Loki at this point, it sounds like. He's the god of stories for Star Wars, sitting on the throne that he should have had in the first place. This news gave me the same reaction as some, I think it was Daredevil, or there was some Marvel news weeks ago that was like, going forward, we're going to have showrunners for these shows,

and we're going to give them the proper, necessary materials they need to make shows. make shows it's like what the fuck why wasn't that the way it was going all along why wasn't dave filoni in this position from the time george lucas sold to disney like he was the the heir to the empire literally why didn't george hook him up and make that part of the contract you realize just how dumb like corporations are big businesses and it's like they get there on just luck or one or two people who are super talented and the rest of the bozos just stealing a paycheck and going home i am so i'm happy for him i think it's good for the brand as well uh i don't i don't really know if kathleen kennedy should still be a part of this i don't really know if Kathleen Kennedy should still be a part of this. I don't know enough to have a feeling for her.

I don't know enough either. I defended her big time for years, especially when The Last Jedi was what people were coming at or whatever. I was like, come on. I love The Last Jedi. At this point, I also don't know. I just don't know. I don't know enough.

But it seems like there has been a bunch of missteps when you look at the amount of projects that have been on the slate and canceled or on the slate and then they had to bring in someone else to finish it there's very few movies at this point that like started with one director and ended with one director i think it's just the force awakens and the last jedi i think those are literally the only two disney era movies that just kept the same director throughout the whole thing which is it's alarming but i don't know if that's kathleen kennedy's fault i have no idea maybe it's her fault for announcing prematurely projects i don't know there's a lot of things involved especially when you have a new boss and it's disney and it's you

know money and just all the crazy shit goes into it but that was during like the good old days for disney when they were making money hand over fist. Now it's like, all right, we have to be smarter, work smarter, not harder, all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I, like my wife asked me this morning randomly, she was like, Oh, how many Star Wars movies have there been? And I was just going through like the original trilogy and then Rogue One. And then I'm like in Solo. and then i'm thinking of the sequel trilogy

and i just started getting mad and sad so but feloni for the most part everything he does how involved was he with andor i don't think he was very involved in andor someone posted the clip of tom walking into the office in succession like with his whole team of people like being the big swinging dick and i said like dave feloni on his way to the end or set to force a dexter jetster cameo into season two that made me laugh that's good let me ask you this about the sequel trilogy too could the characters be redeemed for you because they're doing a new ray movie with daisy ridley i saw she just came out and was like the script wasn't what i expected like i know what the whole story is for the first movie if that movie nails it for you do you think like do you think the movie can nail it for you or are

you going in like i don't like these characters in the first place no i because i think we've seen enough where other star wars and other franchises have done enough where they remember we did it like age of ultron and then when swan division and everything we're like oh like looking back now it's a lot better i think that movie just suffered from really high expectations i do think there's other ways to build it up i'll never watch the last gen i'm like man i just love that i don't know what i was thinking 10 years ago but i think there is a way where i'll be like all right i i've never had a problem with ray i liked kylo yeah that's part of his and i'm like you guys had some good shit going and you just completely bungled it to the point where last jedi me and everyone who hated last jedi that's when we

bailed then rise of skywalker everyone bailed and it was like the people who love last jedi and then there was like robbie and 17 other people who were like we're good that was awesome we're fucking ready to rock. And even then. And like years have passed and I still rewatch Rise of Skywalker and enjoy the shit out of it. But like, ooh, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah.

I wanted it to be better than it was in the moment for sure. The Last Jedi, I don't feel that way about that. The Last Jedi is one of my most rewatched movies in general. Movies. Not Star Wars movies. Movies. I love The Last Jedi. We got it. is one of my most rewatched movies in general movies not star wars movie movies i love the last jedi we got it we one day maybe we'll do we should just get in the gambling cave and do an

electric chair for the last jedi i remember when we during the pandemic we were re-watching like all the old star wars with lights camera barstool and like at some point the fucking new sequel trilogy is going to come and there's going to be me grumpy pants versus i don't think we ever did the sequel trilogy did we ever did thank god i worked extra hard i'm getting the vaccine i gave my body to science just plug me with every vaccine until it works oh god so yeah that that would be a very interesting my history in electric chair it's like my teams get their gut tripped out or usually just blown out in big games it would basically be right on par with everything.

I actually, a little bit of news that I don't think is on your list. I found this out today, though, right before we went live. Apparently, let me make sure I get the right order here because I don't want to say the wrong guy. Darryl Hall is suing John Oates. What? Our guys? Our guys, man. And I'm like, well, there goes my last chance to ever see them together again because they're fucking suing each other suing each other over

what like music rights or something like that business according to the messenger.com uh contract debt lawsuit and temporary restraining order in nashville so restraining order john oats is suing daryl hall or daryl hall soon john oats what did you say it says daryl hall is suing john oats so he's suing our guy i know damn go back and listen to that interview that was one of the rare um robbie and clem music interviews we did together that was a super random one but very fun it was and that was right after i had gotten like i missed the concert it was the weirdest like set of coincidences serendipity if you want to say and then boom got that so because the new york mets choked away their lead to the braves

and then decided to make it to game three of the wild card and then lose i missed my friends going to mohegan sun had a sweet went to, and then went to see Hall & Oates. And I missed all that to have Frank yell for three hours right in my left ear as I watched my team slowly crap out the most fun season I had in years. Good times. And you're still hearing about the Dragons. I still see that in replies sometimes, like, oh, he's probably watching Dragons. I'm like, oh, man, I feel bad about that. Speaking of which, speaking of which, I'm wearing it right now.

Christmas is coming. Dragon shirt. This is one of the sweaters. This is a Bob Fox original. Absolutely crushed last year. Guess what? Is House of the Dragon one of the new items? No, it's not actually.

All right. Coming back, I believe they said summer 2014. So look. 2024. Not 2014. Jesus, not even close. Not even close. Let's do the thumbs up. Does this work? Oh, yeah. Can you get 2024, not 2014. It's not even close. Not even close. Let's do the thumbs up.

Does this? Oh yeah. Can you get, Oh yeah. Christmas is coming. So get your shirts at the barstool store, store. Barstool sports.com.

Um, is it 20? Is it gonna be 20% off on Friday? Is that the number? I don't want to black Friday. I believe it is. Yeah. Black Friday.

And you know, we'll do a cyber Monday telethon as we do every year. It's always very fun. Yep. And anything we go above the number that Dave sets, he's going to give to the producers, to the social people, to the people that keep the lights on here at Barstool with all of us. Idiots can have our fun in the sandbox. So you're helping them out. You're helping them out you're helping us out and listen if you get anything to the to the

basement boys and girls help keep the basement lights on even if you didn't get anything from us or or like through our links or anything like that that's fine it doesn't matter just tweet at stool president you'd be like i bought this because at robbie and and that just gets at the very least gets us off dave's radar of like killing somebody and murdering them because you know someone's gonna fuck up me someone's gonna get it yeah me and bob will not be that unless like one of us go into a coma we will be tweeting our ass i'll post too much you know like people will unfollow me and i'm okay with that to get out of dave's bad graces or i'm not in dave's bad graces but you want to be in his good graces yes exactly so we're going to do our best to stay out of his bad graces and to stay in his good graces.

And you guys can help us, too. If there's any shirts you want. Bob's shirt. I know you have the bear shirt. The bear. The bear. And I also have, I might have it in my closet here. Hold on.

Bob says, it says, yes, chef. It's the picture of the chef from Bear, which, of course, I cannot name, which is actually kind of crazy. I got two this year. The bear. Good shirt. of course i cannot name which is actually kind of crazy i got two this year the bear good shirt again it's going to be a good talking point because a lot of people who watch that show love talking about it to wear it at the thanksgiving part at christmas parties you get it for thanksgiving we're at the table then and what else we got bob this one is specifically for the basement boys and girls across the santa verse see that's all the santa's pointing at each other like

spider-man i actually thought of this uh as a comic idea i thought what if there's a multiverse of santa's and that's how they actually deliver all the presents i don't know if that's ever been done before but i actually think it's a good idea for like a little cute christmas movie everyone's doing a multiverse thing right now all the santas meet each other and just like across the spider verse it's like you got a fat santa you got a skinny santa you got a tall santa you got a short santa you got a race car santa you got a horse santa and it's just all these santas teaming up to make christmas happen i feel like that that could work i think an african american santa would have been would have played on the shirt oh yeah yeah we should have done that we should have done that we should have done an african-american one and like maybe an asian one too yeah we should have just made it like we are

the world santa's alligator santa like alligator loki yes but like that could work as a christmas movie who do we pitch this to do we know any people that waldron he could write it he could write it for us they'd be. How do we get this done? Listen, if you buy those, if we hit the bonus on that, we'll put some of the money towards trying to get that kickstarted into a movie or show. All right. So speaking of Christmassy things, a new season of What If is hitting Disney Plus on December 22nd, and they are planning on dominating Christmas break because a new episode is dropping every single day throughout Christmas break. So starting on December 22nd, nine new episodes will drop one per day. There's a trailer out.

It looks good. Animation style looks same as last season, which I enjoyed. I know it got some criticism but i definitely got used to it by the end of the season i think it's interesting last season looking back there were i want to say like three or four episodes i thought were super memorable and the rest kind of blend into each other i look back at the doctor strange one the most fondly i look back at marvel zombies the first captain car fondly i look back at marvel zombies the first captain carter one i think just because it was the first one so it really like made a mark and

then the finale i thought was pretty good too and they did the guardians of the uh multiverse or whatever they called that this season looks good but they're going back to like another captain carter episode they're going to follow up and do a sequel to that. I wish they got even crazier with it. And maybe they will get crazier with it this season. I am looking forward to what if Happy Hogan saved Christmas the most. Yeah. So I'll go through the list of the episodes here.

So and this is the coolest thing. I love this. They're releasing an episode every single day from like December 22 22nd right and there's one day uh for 10 episodes and the episodes are what if nebula joined the nova core what if peter quill attacked earth's mightiest heroes what if kohori reshaped the world what if hella found the 10 rings what if iron man crashed into the grandmaster what if happy hogan saved christmas what if captain carter the Hydra Stomper? What if the Avengers assembled in 1602? What if Strange Supreme intervened? So,

the Happy Hogan thing will be fun. I am pretty much partial to at least the first two with the Guardians being involved. I love my Guardians stuff. This Avengers assembled in 1602. The 1602 universe, it's like basically, from what I can gather, it was a comic book run where everything, instead of happening in the 90s, it's 1602 the 16 that's interesting galaxy or universe it's like basically from what i can gather there's

a comic book run where everything instead of happening in like the 90s it's 1600s and they're around without fucking electricity and it's just whatever the fuck was going on in the 1600s that is going to be very very interesting the one thing i hope for this series is that i don't want them connected that was the one thing i didn't like about the other series i always what i don't know if all the if like what if had like a lot of continuity but whenever i bought them at the comic store it was just a one and done and it would always be weird trippy shit with characters you liked that like were in these interesting unique situations that you never thought of so it's like i'm hoping they just kind of go on their own but i feel like

they're gonna probably stick with the same kind of story. The Hydra Stomper is like a direct continuation from their episode in season one. And then the, what if Strange Supreme intervened? I think that is also playing right off. Like, you know, he became like Supreme Strange or whatever in the first season, which if you're going to watch any episode of What If, I think that is the one. That was really, really cool. Just seeing him like become, you an evil doctor strange and go down that bad path and hank pym was evil in that too i think or maybe that was a different episode evil hank pym was no

i think he was in a different episode but he was good too the voices are a big part too like the more real voices you can get the better and they don't have all the real voices which hurts a little bit definitely hurts a little bit i i actually i know some people didn't love the release where it's one a day but i personally like it because i just like it's like all right and you know what i have like half hour now let me just bang out the what if for today because that time of year it's like there's really nothing going on in terms of like you get some bowl games here or there they usually suck um you have your nfl sunday once a week you have whatever nba games or whatever you might be into in terms of sports but i remember

like i always said this um what was the name of the sandra bullock movie where she's uh blind like she had blindfolded like bird oh bird box bird box that became like a like a viral sensation because i think no one else had shit to do and they were just sitting at home and i think this weekend thanksgiving weekend and then christmas week i think everyone's just home doing nothing and i don't think that movie deserved the amount of like no it didn't i didn't watch it but i know it became like a big meme it's fine it wasn't i don't think it was bad but yeah it was it liked was everywhere people still post the meme of the guy holding the eyes open. Yeah, exactly.

And then you have, what's it called? I remember back in the day, Fortnite, remember you get like the one gift a day? And you're like, oh, what are we getting today under the tree? This is kind of like the MCU version of that. And I'm going to make a call here. I think that there's going to be something in this series, maybe in the finale, that's going to lead to X-Men 97 coming back. I think it's going to open that universe or multiverse

and somehow, someway, it's... Because that is coming up soon, right? I feel like that is coming up. I think 2024, I think. Yeah, I think. Let me see. We heard about it so many years ago they announced it. Yeah, January 3rd. So it's coming out right after.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. No way. January 3rd, 2024, X-Men 97? I'm looking for the latest. I'm looking for the latest stuff here. It says early. A lot of stuff says late 2023, which was old stories. Now now it says early 2024 why haven't we heard more about that why haven't we got a trailer because they're trying to save it for the big reveal happening during what if and

then you go oh shit i mean economic times.indiatimes.com is where it says january so maybe i'm uh in the car i might not be sure i don't know if there's a release date for that yet. Let's see. According to the Wikipedia, which is always correct, it says early 2024. So they're not committing to an actual date here. I'm personally going to believe it is January 3rd. You're going to set yourself up for disappointment. No, the MC has never done that, right?

It's a fucking Ralph Boner in my face. God damn it um he also got a deleted scene released this week did you see that oh i saw it bob i saw the deleted scene i saw it through like a website that took it and put it in their own video player so i sat through like four ads and then i saw the deleted scene which was the biggest fattest nothing burger of all time and i go nothing that was the final r fattest, nothing burger of all time. And I go, that was the final Ralph Boner joke. It was perfect. It actually made me happy that I sat through it again. Go, this is what you sat through with WandaVision. You sat through all these things that you thought were going to be huge

and nothing came out of it. So it was a good life lesson to just be like, nothing special is going to happen. Fucking Mr. Fantastic was supposed to be in the MCU like four years ago, according to our dumb brains, right? Aerospace engineer. God damn it. Mr. Fantastic was supposed to be in the MCU like four years ago, according to our dumb brains, right? What did the aerospace engineer? God damn it, man. Let's tell the people about factor this holiday season. You might be looking for some nutritious,

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I'm very much looking forward to it. I've heard a lot of chatter just like offline through text and stuff. And like, holy shit, this crazy stuff happened, blah, blah, blah. It's not people promoting stuff to, you know, on tweets or anything. Yeah, no, just privately. That's how I know it's definitely good. So Jeff was saying we did an episode of The Dozen. And he said like one of the episodes that's airing after our Dozen match.

He's like, this one is absolutely fucking bananas. Like, trust me on trust me on this one guys well i'm excited too because i was in the office for all of it but you're like so much of the game is done in private conversations so i don't see 90 of the actual conversations you know i just saw the challenges and the eliminations or whatever so i'm excited to see like the flip side and how we got there it's almost like watching like a tarantino movie like i gotta go piece together what happened you know and i i do feel like a lot of the drama for that show is gonna spill it's probably already spilled into the content and i feel like it's gonna continue going you know down the road so i'm very interested to see how that all shakes out i've noticed a few little comments and i'm like did they make that comment because of the show or Or I don't know.

Some little notes before we get out of here. Loki and Moon Knight directors have reportedly expressed interest in directing Secret Wars, which this is like I would love for them to get the job and whatnot. But they just apparently said we'd be down to do it. And why wouldn't you if it's going to be Secret wars, which could be one of the biggest movies ever. Um, K Hugh Kwan said that the MCU was at the top of his wishlist when he came back to acting. And he broke down in tears when Kevin fight, he called him and offered him the job on Loki because he wanted to reunite

being that they work together on the first X-Men movie. Kevin Feige is like a producer. Um, K Hugh Kwan as a stunt double or a stunt director stunt choreographer um i thought that was just sweet and then the final uh little note that i had was aman valani refuses to watch dark phoenix same oh same we're on the same boat uh and again to the people who uh for anyone from marvel that is listening feel free to just re redo the dark phoenix saga whenever like the x-men come in trust me the first two swings were the first one was

like a miss the second one was like miss spin fall on the ground that flies out of your hands your fucking underwear your cat you know goes around your ankles that was an absolute disaster and it's such a good story it was one of those stories that really made me go from like liking the x-men to loving the x-men when i went back and read it so you guys can can take another swing at that but also like i kind of am excited with the x-men in terms of seeing again i don't think they're going to just use magneto for every little thing right so i'm hopefully thought about that in the past um but as for the rest of the news, I think I would have the Loki people ahead of the, the moon night people.

Right. I think that's fair to, fair to say. they're the same people. Oh, it's the same people. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a team. It's a duo. I don't know if they're brothers. Let me see Loki directors. Cause I, I enjoyed Loki more than moon night,

obviously. And I think the biggest gripe we had with moon Knight is Moon Knight just was not in it enough. They're not brothers. Yeah, it's Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead, I believe. They are a duo. They did Moon Knight. They did Loki. They're doing Daredevil Born Again.

And in movies, they've done a couple couple movies but it doesn't look like anything huge so Secret Wars I think the one thing I've learned first of all I'm just gonna I won't go on a rant but I have to admit that Secret Wars I have the bad taste in my mouth from Secret Evasion just the word secret and I'm just like well they're gonna fuck that one up

I should not think that I should think everything's gonna be fine right because it's going to be such a big project and it's such a monster in the comics and I'm just like give me I don't if you got to use the Russos again just because it's like they

like I'm fine with that they want to come back because they had the perfect they you know perfect ending I don't think I'd want to come back? Because they had the perfect ending. I don't think I'd want to come back either. You're like, I made more money than any movie ever at the time. Yeah, I don't want to come back and potentially fuck up. The Russos right now, to comic book fans, are gods.

Yeah, and this is the thing. If you're sports, and I got my sports analogy of the weekend right at the end. Good thing I got it in now. Phil Jackson leaves the Bulls after winning the two title, the two three-peats. And he doesn't come back and, you know, coach the bum-ass Knicks that had Eddie Kirk. He came back and coached Kobe and Shaq, right? So he is not getting Kobe and Shaq if the MCU is where it is in a few years, which I imagine is going to be, right? Are Kobe and Shaq, Tobey Maguire, which I imagine is going to be right. Are Colby and Shaq, Toby McGuire and Hugh Jackman.

That's fair. If I guess, yeah, by that point, if they could build this thing back up to Colby and Shaq levels, then I think they could do it. Then it's a matter of, will they want to, but I would like, you're just going in and just asking to tarnish your own name. If you're taking anything close to the way I'm seeing the way it is now, and then trying to make it a secret war, especially after saw how secret invasion ended up,

which by the way, which one caused Jose to start breathing heavy. Was it secret? Unfortunately, it was invasion. He was so excited about. Yeah. Did he have,

do you know if he's seen it? I really hope he has. And I just hope he didn't watch it. I think I texted him about it and said, yeah, like this is not the secret invasion that you thought it was gonna be i don't because like he like jose is not like us he doesn't get mad i think he just gets sad yeah i texted him about the marvels because he jose we we've talked about he's like he wants to know the spoilers because he's not gonna see a lot of these movies so he texted me he's like how is the marvels this is pretty much what you would expect he was like oh i was like yeah

and then i said good post-credit scene though and i explained the whole post-credit scene to him and he was like all right sounds pretty good sounds pretty good i like that the fact he doesn't like the boys bums me out but i think it's because the comics not the shows yeah he hasn't watched the show but i'm i'm on so i haven't finished genv yet i haven't um because it's the genv is a couple show i watch with my girlfriend so we got to watch it together i caught up on invincible alone i watched all of season two so i'm caught up on invincible genv i think we're on episode six now um but loving it like absolutely loving genv it's it's amazing i i love uh cricket yes cricket's awesome oh my god

i think this was in the trailer so i don't think this is like too spoiler heavy the scene where she actually goes through the guy's ear oh my god she comes out looking like carrie metal yeah a lot of metal in this show yeah um really really good though like i don't think it's quite the level of the boys i saw a lot of people when it was on yeah. Really, really good, though. Like, I don't think it's quite the level of The Boys. I saw a lot of people when it was on, like, it's just as good as The Boys. I don't feel like it's just as good as The Boys, but maybe that's because I know and love The Boys characters so much by now. I feel like it's just a level below, but very close.

I'm with you. It's the junior varsity to The Boys' varsity, in my opinion. And it's not even a knock on Gen V, because I consider Gen V, again, it just makes me angry that they can do a show like this with characters we don't know and it's better than anything the mcu has basically been pumping out other than established franchises like guardians uh it is it is extremely gory it might be gorier than um some of the boys seasons you know because it gets oh yeah fucking gnarly just the puppet gore that was good so i was wondering if you had gotten to that part yet um but like the characters again we've had a lot more with the boys so i like feel like there is some more like uh background but i don't know like the the adult characters just bring more than kids and there is still the high you know

high school college the young kids, they have to kind of talk like those shows or whatever. And that's just not my speed. I'm too goddamn old probably. My kids are even closer to their age than I am. But I mean, perfect. I heard they're going to just keep rolling. It's going to go. Gen V rolls into the boys and the boys rolls into Gen V. I'm sure they'll have another spinoff at some point because jeff bezos has more money than god and that universe is just absolutely crushing so i love gen b i finished it with uh the wife too who loved it as well we were she's um we do the boys as well we watch um that's a couple show for us and then i watched invincible solo and everyone nailed it like it it is i i'd say i'd have the boys a little higher oh i agree but i

know some people say some people think invincible is better or it's you know equal for me personally i'm less of a cartoon guy but i mean i fucking love it i watched i finished season one i started season two first episode so i think i have two more left uh season two episode three the most recent one is as good as any episode it was like and not even in like a massive stakes way just the whole way the episode is put together i was like blown away i think it's so good the way they started uh episode one of season two where they kind of i won't give anything away i was like that was very good that was very smart um so i imagine season episode three will have the same kind of like well done side of it uh but it's it's it's really is a much must watch for any comic book fan

the first just watch the first episode yeah and if you're out from and listen i watched it and i won't give anything away but i just i stopped watching for another reason but i came back in and i'm so happy i powered through it it is i mean it's better than anything marvel the season one finale is is you know talk about gore and and blood and guts and like it's basically rated r like this is a very much a cartoon for adults and they're explicit about that another one like what if where the voice cast helps so much if they just had a regular voice cast cartoon voice cast no disrespect to cartoon If they just had a regular voice cast, cartoon voice cast, no disrespect to cartoon voice actors.

I think I'd be less invested, but the fact that it's like Steven Yeun and JK Simmons and like these amazing people, Sandra Oh, Seth Rogen, like awesome, awesome voices that you recognize right away. And it's Amazon.

So if you don't recognize them, you flip up the little thing and they tell you X-ray. It's the best. So yeah, invincible and the boys, if you're right now, if you're in a Marvel drought where you're like craving some superheroes, but you haven't checked those out yet.

Oh my God. You must check those out. That's the perfect Thanksgiving or Christmas kind of like watch list where I need to catch up on something. And I'm just laying around the house. Why not just burn a couple hours? I'd say jump into either of those. You have to have prime, but all you do is just,

you don't have to get Peacock and this they're both on the same thing. Get your gifts a little quicker. I'm, I'm fucking chilling for goddamn. How about you buy a goddamn sweater from Portnoy's so we don't get fired and then get your prime. But yeah, I loved it so much. And another one I heard of, which I haven't talked to you about I heard from large And I heard from dragonfly jones is my favorite Twitter follow and both who I

Didn't know were into anime I think it's Anime is the blue-eyed samurai Haven't heard of this No the blue-eyed samurai I Believe it's on Netflix And I believe it is Large is watching anime Yeah I believe it's on Netflix and I believe it is. Large is watching anime. Yeah, I believe so.

Again, I'm not disrespect to anime, but I'm just out of large and shocked. So it's animated. Now, is it? So it's an anime influenced Western TV series called Blue Eye Samurai. Oh, so it's Western. So be careful with the anime term. I don't think they like that. It's Western.

Oh, it looks like anime, though. I'm looking at pictures. It's anime. Right, right. Okay. It's fucking anime. I've heard it is. So 9 out of 10 here on IMDb.

4.7 out of 10 on whatever this review site is. It's a Netflix show. And I heard that there's an episode called The tale of the ronin and the bride episode five it's only one season so you don't have to catch up on a ton i've heard that episode goes toe-to-toe with anything you watch this year and dragonfly jones who's again my favorite dude on twitter funny guy um as well he said he thought the best episode he would watch this year was um the last of us episode with bill and oh yeah and he said this surpassed it and that's the fact he's had that that episode that high and he says this passes out i'm like i guess i'm getting into another

anime what did they would importantly call iti so i guess we're getting into some animi ken jack is like yes he's fine i knew i'd get these guys finally so or is he like that's not fucking animi there's no technical porn in this one that's bullshit what's uh what's the hashtag for this week what did we talk about this week dave Filoni, Pedro. Oh, Pablo Pascal? Pablo. I was going to say, just something after fucking. He's like, you know what he is? He's a real life variant.

He just has all the different variants of him. And he just fucking. So, yeah. Hashtag Pablo Pascal. Into the Pedroverse. Into the Pedroverse. By the way, that's on Netflix now. Oh, Pedroverse.

All the different Pedro Pascals. Yes. And they're all pointing at each other. And if we make it where they don't exactly look like it like he doesn't have the mando helmet on yeah you know make it look like the rocks a wax figure you know just make them white or something the rock having to call them out and be like uh can you change my skin color to match mine it was crazy like a hero and Samoan people and we're like you know me like the rock Dwayne Johnson have you heard of me yeah I gotta know Bob I gotta know what the Thanksgiving like what's your Thanksgiving take here because I know our food takes usually

tear us apart are you a turkey guy you anti-turkey I I'm a turkey guy. Me too. I'm more of a ham guy. Don't love that. Don't love that. I like, I'll do, see, I do like an obligatory turkey and gravy because it's Thanksgiving and I have to have it. And I'll enjoy it. But I'll load my fucking plate with ham. I love a Thanksgiving ham.

So you're rocking two meats at the table. Yeah. God bless you guys. God bless you. we're we're bringing stuff this year we've brought stuff past couple years i think i'm finally getting to that age i was never i want to ask you about this i was never ever ever growing up a mac and cheese with thanksgiving kid i didn't even know people had mac and cheese with thanksgiving until i met my girlfriend she was like oh you want to bring mac and cheese it was like mac and cheese sounds fucking awesome. Why don't we do mac and cheese for Thanksgiving?

So that's kind of our thing. We bring mac and cheese. We're doing Brussels sprouts. I think my girlfriend's making like a peach cobbler. Are you a mac and cheese guy on Thanksgiving? Mac and cheese on Thanksgiving is one of those things that you don't know exists until the internet happens. That's what happened to me.

It's like three or four years ago. It became like a big debate. And it's not the blue box. You're not getting Kraft mac and cheese. No, yeah, you make a real mac and cheese. Almond mac and cheese, maybe some breadcrumbs on top. It's cooked. And I've dabbled in a few places that have had it.

And you do expand your horizons once you are dating somebody and you're meeting new families, especially from places outside of where you grew up. But anyone that says no to mac and cheese at Thanksgiving, it's like, what but i i anyone that says no to mac and cheese at thankgiving it's like what the fuck like you never say no to it made me be like why were we missing out on this like i was like mom like i think you gave me a bad childhood after realizing i didn't have mac and cheese she ruined my childhood like uh ryan johnson did to so many true true i something i picked up along the way

was from my sister unless she she made it and i'd never had it before is the cream corn casserole have you ever had that before no um it's like it's cream corn regular corn i believe in me i don't think there's some corn muffin mix in there some i like corn sounds good it is fantastico uh people love their what it, green bean casserole? I've had it. I like dabbled in that. I'm not a huge fan of that. I'm a turkey guy.

I like it. It's the tradition. We have our turkey. And people are always like, oh, turkey, you only have it that one day. I have changed my, I've actually embraced it. And I have like the Thanksgiving sandwiches you can get at the local deli. You get like some sliced turkey with some stuffing, some cranberry sauce. That's another thing.

Stuffing, I think, is elite. It's good for its little time. I hate people that hate stuffing. Mashed potatoes. We love mashed potatoes, right? Big time. Maybe more than anything. I used to go to Whole Foods and just get a vat of mashed potatoes for lunch.

That's all I ate. See, this is how this guy is that skinny i would have never pulled my life and i am me and look at this guy uh and then cranberry sauce i appreciate the white trashiness of the can but i'm big out on it i'm i'm not a big fan of it but i you know what a few years ago i had some of uh mama clem made made one and it was like a really good homemade one and it does Do a good job it lubricates everything up Tastes good has that like little orange Like twang to it

And I've learned to like I've learned to love A side of cranberry sauce But it sounds like we're both kind of you know Locked in I'm not a big I think ham is for The boars guy I remember that from Podfathers Is it Chaps that's a ham guy Chaps no Chaps actually is a

he calls out that yeah yeah he calls out the ham guys he's called he's written a blog about that before yes and he is a former poor as well so he says this is coming from a place of knowledge you know he was watching wcw for the pores it's for the pores i think ham is delicious also i've mentioned this in the past but the fox Fox leftover play is a little different. We have pies like ready to go. We have like the pie crust. And as soon as Thanksgiving is over, instead of sending us home with Tupperwares full of leftovers, Mama Fox will load that all into a pie. She'll put the crust over the top.

All we have to do is bring it home, put it in the oven. And for the next week, we're eating Thanksgiving leftover pie. That is brilliant. Brilliant, Bob. So I was told like a couple of years ago, a good way to eat your leftovers. Cause again, I think you get some good bread, the bread, the bread makes a difference. A little Mike Francesa for you. It's a good, like you pay, you pay money for some good bread and you have all the leftovers,

which are already elite. Cause it's a Thanksgiving dinner quality meal. And you make your sandwiches that way. And then someone said, I think if you put some like corn muffin, corn meal batter in a waffle maker, you can make like a good. And I did that. It was tremendous. But I'm telling you, Bob, you embrace the pie side of things and you make it.

And the fact she does it when everything, you know, it's part of the cleanup process and it's getting everything out of the house i now i have to do that i'm going to have to buy pie so i have to buy a pie crust and then what do i have to get for on top how do i do the i don't know how to do the top of it just just like a nor it's like a normal i think it comes with the pie crust i don't know because i don't do it my mom does it but she just lays it on top and then you just kind of like pinch the the sides so the bottom touches the top okay cut a little hole in the top like four little holes in the top for air and i'm telling you it is like it might be like one of my death row meals in terms of like my favorite thing because the pie crust adds like a nice little flavor too it's oh it's so good i

can't wait for it and i'm not a huge we've talked about this obviously loki i'm not a huge pie guy in general i do like me neither and kind of pies but uh i like chicken pot pies so i do like a dinner pie as well bob this is a game changer i'm actually kind of upset you've never told me about this before we know each other have i never i look forward to this more than the actual meal i think yes and i do like i i get excited about the thought of friday you're kind of groggy you're tweeting out all your fucking links remember guys store it up barstool sports.com don't get us fired i'm sending this to portway when we're done with it too so we can't say we didn't promote we're promoting it

before black friday goes for the two bob sweaters out there he's showing you right now on the youtube but man i just think of like, and it's the holiday. So if it's 1030 in the morning, it's 1030 in the morning. That's when I'm having my leftover sandwich. That's when Bob's having his leftover pie. Oh man.

And my father-in-law is a hell of a shot. So I'm going to have myself some good leftovers and I double dip. I've done this before. I go down to the Clems. I go down to my parents and I take some of their leftovers. My brother,

my brother will go down to the refrigerator. He's like, what the hell happened to all this stuff? And you're like, sorry, bro. Cause I licked my fingers. I'm just picturing you trick or treating like Thanksgiving food.

I am straight up. Like your dad puts it on your head, like the minion and Trump. He just puts a tupperware on it. There you go. Be on your way. What TV show did the son always come back and like eat stuff out of their refrigerator that was like a trope on one of the shows i think you're right yeah it might have been the cosby

show but there was definitely one where the son kept going in and the dad would always find him in the refrigerator well where i'm up doing the sopranos right now uh tony and karm are going through some marital issues and he's not living in the house. But every time he shows up, he just opens the fridge, starts drinking the orange juice straight out of the cart and milk straight out of the cart. And she's giving him looks like, oh, geez, I got to throw that out now. Yep. That's straight Tony, man. He's just throwing the gobble ghoul in his mouth. Which, by the way, again, sorry for the lengthiness and the left turn. I apologize.

I do apologize for what happened to your Washington commanders on Sunday. But Jersey boy Tommy DeVito, Papa Tala Bella was doing the pinch finger. Did you see? He was. Did you see he did the Mamma Mia after the touchdown too? He's hard to hate. Yeah, Tommy DeVito. He's a Jersey guy.

There's that picture of him on the boardwalk. Yeah, like if anyone's going to do it to the commanders, let it be Tommy DeVito. He still lives at home with his parents. He did that to the commanders, then slept in the bed he grew up in. In his mom's basement. As she was cooking his food and doing his laundry, Bob. All right, Bob, make me a promise, and i think you'll agree to this because i don't think you're you're attacking to the commanders it's kind of fucked up you would do this after snyder finally gets out but the odds of this happening are one in a billion if tommy devito

becomes the long-term franchise quarterback of the giants you're the giants fan i thought you were gonna say if he wins a super bowl if he's just if he's just the giants guy no no i can't i can't do that but there's no way he's going to become the giant star there's zero percent they're gonna have a draft pick daniel jones is gonna be the giant starter it's gonna be a draft pick and at the very worst it's gonna be daniel jones over tommy fucking domino because guess what we're not how about how about how about if he brings the giants to the super bowl doesn't even have to win if he brings the giants to the super bowl i will convert my fandom brings them to the okay fine. Doesn't even have to win. If he brings the Giants to the Super Bowl, I will convert my fandom.

Brings them to the... Okay, fine. I'll sign up for that. I think that's a little extreme. I think... I wouldn't like to do it. I don't want to do it. Honestly, over-under how many games does Tommy DeVito start for the Giants the rest of his life?

The over-under is probably like one and a half. Like next season. Starting next season. And then how many does he start as like the guy in front of his heart is like zero he's never going to be like well let's give tommy another shot see what he has but you know what i will agree to this i'd say the playoffs but super bowl is fine if tommy now what happens if like caleb williams is the quarterback gets him to the nfc championship i don't even know who that is.

Fair enough. Super Bowl, we'll just leave it at that. But I know there's a small part of you, the Della Bella side of you is just like, I wish I had my, I was rooting for my Paisan. A very small part of me. It would suck to not like get the two Super Bowls over the Patriots, you know, to become a Giants fan after all.

It's like becoming an MCU fan in 2023. Yeah. Like, oh my God. That must have been awesome. I got to check out Endgame. Yeah, yeah. All right. This was an extra long Thanksgiving episode. We pretty much like wrapped the show up early

and then we did a little Thanksgiving after show, which I hope people appreciate it. Maybe people are listening to this as they're getting ready for their Thanksgiving dinner or something, their Thanksgiving. You call it Thanksgiving dinner, but it's usually a Thanksgiving lunch. Yeah, it's get it before the Cowboys game or maybe first quarter. Three, four-ish.

Usually it's a little earlier. Yeah. Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving. Stay safe. Stay healthy. Everyone will be back next week for another show. Probably like this, probably news related, news oriented, maybe mailbag edition. We'll take some questions from you guys and we'll

see you then.