My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 320 - 'X-MEN' (2000) REWATCH AND REVIEW WITH CLEM

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

Robbie and Clem revisit the original 'X-Men' movie that kicked off the whole franchise ahead of 'Deadpool 3'! Does it hold up? Who gives the best performance? Which characters will reappear in the MCU? All of these questions - AND MORE - answered on this recap! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! Factor: Head to https://FACTORMEALS.com/robbie50 and use code robbie50 to get 50% off. C4: Grab the new C4 Ultimate Energy WWE flavors today at GNC, online, or find them near you at https://FindC4.com. **************************************** Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement #Deadpool3 #XMen #MarvelStudiosYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3Chi. I am your host Robbie Fox along with my co-host Clem Nito. Does that work? That kind of works. Clem Nito for an X-men 2000 review recap look back we are going to be re-watching the entire x-men franchise or at least movies that we want to re-watch from the x-men franchise in the lead up to deadpool 3 we think we're going to get a lot of these characters back in the mcu or maybe in the mcu in the first place so we're looking back starting with the original one of the original superhero movies honestly clem how we doing we're doing good this is my realm i'm looking forward to this portion of the mcu coming up so before we move forward we have to go back this was

an interesting rewatch there were some things i liked more than i thought there were some things i was like oh that didn't really hold up very well. But as the old on the podcast, let me just tell you that, Bob, this was a legitimate thing back in 2000. It was like, oh, shit, we got a legit superhero. Obviously, Batman

almost feels bigger than superheroes sometimes. He is such a franchise. And Superman, I was not even old enough to really know what superman and uh what's his name christopher reeve christopher reeve was just crushing uh so this was like oh man this was this is going to be huge and there's going to be a lot of stuff coming after it so very interesting to see i'm very excited to get into my uh my ex-people if you may ex-people should we call them ex people?

Rob, should we be extra woke right now? And I feel like they might get canceled when they make the new X. Why is it not the ex people? Right. There's a couple of things where I'm like, I think they're going to get in trouble when they make the new X-Men. I think when they make the new X-Men,

this movie kind of reminded me X-Men might be the most politically charged superhero franchise. And I feel like they're going to make a new X-Men movie in a couple of years and people are going to go, keep the politics out of X-Men. I don't want this. And woke. And it's like, ooh, you don't know what X-Men's about, do you? Yeah. That was like one of the big takeaways, just seeing it in person.

Obviously, when you when I think X-Men, I think of all the characters first. When you think of the stories and you're like, is a lot about persecution and you know step you know segregation oppression yeah it is it's some heavy subject matter and uh last i checked this isn't really the world we're living in like it's not gonna be like oh yeah everyone everyone's great we all live together peace and harmony kumbaya it would be nice i'm also dressed as magneto when i say that so um before we get into the movie speaking a heavy subject matter and whatnot i didn't have a great morning club i'm not doing too good right now i uh took my dog for a walk first thing in the morning and we spotted another dog juice i call this dog my dog boyfriend faith's boyfriend because it's same size very similar look when they

see each other they go crazy they jump on each other they hug they play like the nicest dogs in the world it's so cute juice is playing with another dog though and uh it was a small dog small white shih tzu i let my dog faith go up and talk to them, say what's up. She's always the nicest dog in the world, the friendliest dog in the world. She immediately started growling at the Shih Tzu and she barked in the Shih Tzu's face. I had to pull my dog away. My dog got cheated on, I think. And it's tough. I came home. I tried to comfort her, gave her some treats. We're going to give her doggy ice cream later. But you never like to walk in on your dog getting cheated on so i've been there i've never been cheated on at least not that i know of knock on wood um but then how have you been there because when we were kids did you

ever have it when you were kids where you would have like a really good friend maybe even a best friend but then you'd go and you'd see them at like you know a park or something they're playing with a friend and they're kind of having their thing you try to get under the third wheel or yeah you can't really hang out and it's like but you're my and it when it's also happening the other way where you and a friend are playing you see another friend it doesn't really mesh well uh so been there done that i feel for faith um luckily i think dogs you could probably just give her like a treat and then she just wags yeah yeah happy so now she's happy yeah we got it we got her an advent calendar so there's a christmas themed treat every day and you give her one of those

i got uh my buddy bought me the um i won a fantasy football bet against him i got the hans gruber falling off knock it knock. It told me that was incredible. It was amazing. I actually, I had the similar experience to you last week. I took AJ to a trampoline park and just had to burn like some energy out on a Saturday. It's cold out. We can't just have this kid.

He'll just be jumping on the couch for an hour rather than jump on trampolines. And we happened this one. This was an extra brutal to do, but he didn't realize it, because he's a golden retriever in his own right, it was his buddy from preschool, who now he's in kindergarten, so it was his, but it was his boy, saw them at the trampoline park, he saw the sister, he's like, oh, I see his sister, so I say hi to her, as we're leaving, says hi to her, and then I see the mom, and she's like, oh my god, I'm so sorry, I'm like,

what are you talking about, she's like, i thought you guys were away this weekend i'm like no no we're going away next weekend it was his birthday party so aj saw his old buddy's birthday party we would have been invited he was there for the birthday party but not for the birthday party birthday party he's like i want to see him i want to say hi i said sure so we went up we said hi he didn't even i don't think notice it was his birthday party. It probably would have gutted him. It broke my heart for him.

We've hung out with them. The mom knew ECW. She's like, oh, this reminds me of ECW. When we were at the fair where they had the carnival where they had the wrestling ring outside. I was like, you know ECW? That's a good mom right there. I think anyone,

that's a very relatable thing that faith went through this morning. I think we've all been there at some point in life, one way or another. And just, it hurts the parents just as much. We've learned. It was tough. I just had to get it off my chest.

It was tough to see, but you know what? Faith's doing good. Otherwise we went through health issues last week. I don't think I mentioned that on the podcast, but now she's like fully back to her old self. We got her on steroids. Hell yeah.

It's not a UFC plan. You know, she can't fight the UFC. But yeah, she's doing great. So let's get into X-Men. This X-Men rewatch of my mom's basement is brought to you by three G of all the things in life.

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one minute shorter than the Marvels, the shortest MCU movie, a movie where we were like, it was so rushed, you needed more runtime this movie didn't feel that rushed to be honest with you it had a 75 million dollar budget you could usually double that for marketing so you could chalk it up to about 150 million and it grossed 296.3 million and that's huge for comic book movies at the time marvel was in a weird spot blade was

actually the movie that kind of showed them like all right maybe we got something here maybe a marvel character can you know have its own movie maybe its own movie franchise and it made 21.4 million on opening day this was the third highest opening day ever at the time behind the Phantom Menace and Jurassic Park, The Lost World made 57.5 million the entire opening weekend, making it at the time the biggest opening for a superhero movie of all time. Batman Forever was the previous record holder at 52.8 million dollars. Really, really good numbers that Marvel needed at the time and numbers that indicated you got a franchise on your hands here marvel and then it's like they're just watching it right because they they sold it to fox they sold it but they had some involvement still like kevin feige

is a producer on this movie and he would eventually you know obviously make his way up the ladder and now he's running shit so it's like a half a marvel production because yes they sold the rights to the x-men that's why it took them so long to come into the mcu spider-man which they had the whole shindig with there so yeah so and and i've talked about this i think i've talked about it on the blog a bunch and maybe on twitter i don't know if I mentioned in the podcast. There's a series called Icons Unearthed. And I know we've talked about the movies that made us and the toys that made us, two Netflix franchises that do a great job summing up different awesome movies that we love and toys that we love. You know, Ninja Turtles, Barbie, whatever you may love, My Little Pony. Home Alone was one of the movies that they teach you just so much little fun facts about.

They did one, Icons on Earth. They did it. I've talked about the Simpsons one. They did one with the Fast and Furious, Bond. And one of the ones they did, Star Wars, and then MCU as well. And I'm about halfway through that. And they did talk a lot about how stuff went. And there's so many fun little nuances about how they ended up getting to the point where they had to sell off the stuff but also how some of these movies was like oh shit we could make a cinematic universe out of the heroes we actually didn't pawn off you know during bankruptcy or whatever so very interesting stuff i check definitely check it out i know it's on demand for me i have have DirecTV. Where were you watching it on, Robbie?

I think you can rent it on Amazon Prime. I think it's one of the ones that made the MCU one. I think it's not free on Amazon Prime, but you could rent it. The whole season's not too expensive, but it is worth watching. I loved the Star Wars one. I thought it was fantastic. Yeah, it's a lot of different voices. And again, if you're a Simpsons fan, that was the first four or so episodes

with stuff I've never known. And I remember when the Simpsons were being made. So I've been following that forever. You mentioned Amazon Prime. I ended up watching this one on Amazon Prime. So I thought they bought the goddamn 20th Century Fox partially so they could just have X-Men on Disney Plus whenever the fuck they wanted

and it would get people like us to subscribe. Turns out that is not the case. I don't know if it's in the vault or if it's in some legal fucking no man's land, but it's just not there. And I don't know where else it was. I think there is an X-Men somewhere in my guest room. I have like my old DVD book that I almost just gave away for nothing. This was kind of a lesson. Keep your physical media. You don't want to be at the whim of some idiot executive who could just change

whatever the hell they want. I happen to have my PS5. All they had was the disc version because it was during the shortage. So I said, fuck it. Let me just get the disc version. I don't care. And now I have something to play DVDs for the rest of my life. So that is how I'm going to watch as many of these as I can. But for this one, I it it was i think four bucks i had a four dollar i guess digital credit in my amazon account i never would use it otherwise so uh that's how i watched it and i imagine how i might have to watch stuff moving forward if i don't have the dvd i don't think so i think some of them are on disney plus which is the newer ones are i think but like the x2 and x3 i don't think they are it could be wrong didn't you start x2 the other week what did you start

that i had that on i had that on um i think it's a dvd uh gotcha um this movie is directed by brian singer boo canceled now so that was the thing i saw brian singer i'm like i know this name bad guy we're gonna say bad guy bad guy bad guy not welcome in the basement and here's a fun fact for you the original x-men movie is written by david hater the voice of solid snake in metal gear solid how fucked up is that he also co-wrote watchmen he's written a couple things here and there but yeah the voice of solid snake is the writer of this movie david hater this is like a pretty goddamn important is he related to bill hater or something no it's it's hater like not haters oh h-a-y-t-e-r. I see it here. Yes. All right. Solid Snake. Land of the Roll Captain America in the Spider-Man animated series, Bob.

He is a big voice actor. There's a lot of interesting stuff about this dude. All right. Okay. I'm down with that. Story was by Singer and Tom DeSanto. Interesting story that they went with. The rogue Wolverine joining the X-Men. That was at one point in uh

someone's script from 1994 i'll get to the guy's name later when we talk about the movie and then something that i think is uh very worth pointing out showcasing highlighting about this movie is its score i think this movie has one of the best biggest anthemic superhero scores great theme for the x-men and it was done by the late great michael cayman who you may know from the diehard movies from the lethal weapon movies the iron giant band of brothers he did some tales from the crypt did a one of my favorite underrated movies i would say last action hero just an all-time legend they still will use his x-men theme to this day and you know the movies that came out since he passed um but really really elevates this movie and it's one of the things that i feel like makes it like hey this is, this is a movie right off the bat.

They show you, we're taking this very seriously. It's a movie that takes itself very seriously. It's not the goofy Joel Schumacher stuff that you've been getting used to in the nineties. Um, and I think the score really helps Michael came in, obviously a legend from his entire body of work. I didn't realize that. Um, as you say this about uh die hard involved i mean

i just think of die hard and i always like i'm like what is the secret sauce that takes it from like a movie to a film in my mind again favorite movie of all time i got the poster in the back there and it is it's discord it's fucking just the little just like's like a couple of times where they just play a couple of keys on the piano and you're like, oh, that is just fucking perfect. It's the glue. It puts it all together. And this movie, uh, fucking no different, man. Absolute, absolute legend.

You said it perfectly, Bob. Um, there were discussions to turn the X-Men into a movie franchise going all the way back to the 1980s. I think 1984 is when they started talking about making an x-men movie kind of grateful that they didn't back then like it'd be fascinating to see what it would be like but i feel like it'd be so campy and weird james cameron and katherine bigelow when they were married were in talks to do it in 1991 they were very interested in the

x-men franchise they wanted to do it uh. Gary Goldman, who was behind Total Recall and Big Trouble in Little China, has a story credit on their version of it. And apparently it fell apart when Stan Lee got brought into a meeting and was like, hey, James, what do you think about Spider-Man? And immediately he just dropped the X-Men. He's like, fuck the X-Men. Let's do Spider-Man. So that's how that fell apart. And another one where I'm like, 1991 X-Men. If James Cameron's involved, it'll probably be good in the 90s, if we're being honest. But I think they needed the special effects that would come a little bit hold up great some of them look very 2000 very cheesy very corny but the ones that do hold up great are the important ones the wolverine claws some of the kills like that still looks good and it looks serious looks like you could take it seriously

the when you said that with james cameron i'm thinking it's like the andy from toy story meme where he's like i'm not playing with you anymore. And the X-Men is looking at him for the shiny Buzz Lightyear. Because Spider-Man is like, name-wise, that's a fucking, that's an icon in itself. The X-Men are a little weird. I'm thinking, again, as an X-Men fan, you're going off the 70s and 80s. It's a very interesting, just style-looking comic. I fell in love with them the October 91 issue X-Men 1 and that's the picture where it's Wolverine Cyclops, Psylocke

Jean Grey, all of them and they're facing Magneto in like the bubble and that was as I learned in I think Icons on Earth, that really took X-Men to another level, to a whole new generation of people like me and I remember going back to the old comics and being like, this is fucking kind of weird. But I liked it too.

The characters were interesting. Making a movie off of, again, the source material from back then, probably not going to be as good, or it looks a little weird. And then the X-Men are a team that I think their powers especially translate really well using better newer technology, and that's why I'm excited

about what the EMC could do. Because I think they'll even jump all the stuff we saw in spot which by the way i didn't realize this brian singer this fucking guy he was the director for like every x-men movie i thought he just did like the trilogy they just they're like if it if it ain't broke don't fix it it broke at some point and they're just like no no let him keep riding it and then forget about all the creep shit which i went to the imdb and i kept scrolling oh man or the wikipedia and i just kept scrolling this guy had a lot of fucked up shit and he i couldn't figure out what he was from he was usual suspects that put him on the map obviously uh and then he like made x-men a household name and then kind of ruined x-men so again hopefully it's the last time we mentioned

brian singer on here but i thought that was pretty fucking wild. Yeah, and I think he did Bohemian Rhapsody, and Rami Malek refused to mention him, thank him at all, because they got into big fights on set and shit. You may have to edit out when I say his name for now on, Bob, because I don't like him either. I'll get down with Mr. Robot. So let's get into the movie.

Amazing, amazing opening sequence. You could argue the best sequence in the movie with Magneto and the Holocaust to kick things off. And this is the tone setter. This is like raw, obviously heartbreaking. This is something we've discussed on the podcast before, but I think it's worth bringing up again now. Do you think that ever changes Magneto's origin story?

Are they going to get to a point in 50 years where just timeline wise, it won't make sense for him to be a Holocaust survivor? Will they change the genocide that he was a part of? Will they put him in ice like Captain america and keep him in the holocaust i feel like they probably should do something like that where this is such a perfect origin that tells you a lot of his motivation and what you need to know about him right off the bat i feel like you should maybe freeze him and be like oh he just came out of the ice or maybe he fought a team of superheroes back then that made it so he couldn't resurrect till 100 years whatever it may be i think you got to keep it yeah because he'd be closing in about

shit like 90 or so really old and how old he is as a kid to then you know 2023 and x-men ain't coming out in 23 or 24 at this point right so you're gonna have to figure out how you're gonna make that all work the thing is there's no better way to say this man or this mutant or whatever this oh wow i'm thinking we're really gonna have the m word yeah don't use that word around me um but going down the road like there's there you say there's like no better way to say why he would have no faith in humanity however let me say this as someone that's been in humanity you know was i remember before the internet after the internet you just have him just going online and being like faith in humanity i'm not saying to the point where you're in the fucking holocaust but lose faith in humanity and

again there's other genocides other moments but this is like a seminal, like, and again, fuck the H man always plays right. Indiana Jones still just punching out Nazis always gets, you know, standing ovation. I just on Netflix just released another, um, colorized world war two history thing. And I don't know, it's just the old man in me, but I've always kind of been fascinated by that war. And I'm like, here we go. Let's go watch another fucking like eight hours of like the worst humanity has to offer. So I I'm with you, Bob. I'd like it if they keep it. But if not, you have to have his origin rooted in just showing the worst mankind has to offer, which I mean, honestly, you just go on Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it and you can find some pretty

awful shit. Yeah, click that for you tab. You'll see it real quick. Crazy shit keeps coming up on that for you tab.'ll see it real quick crazy shit keeps coming up on that for you tab i did i always appreciate like i said though like with the eternals and some other stuff when you do have the real life events and it's like i'm a history guy so seeing real life shit with like with the twist in that universe or mutant stuff or whatever it may be i appreciated i appreciated the callback i will say when you said the opening i like that i did not like the so the credits oh like the cpi

it was a lot cooler in 2000 let me just say it kind of flexed the technology you know that that opening credit sequence probably took them eight hours to render on a fucking box type computer we're using a gateway 2000 like here we go and i was amazed not so amazed here 23 23 years later i feel like they did it a lot better like a year later in spider-man because the opening credits of that sequence is kind of in the webs it's very similar i think and i think they did it a lot better there um something i thought while watching this we've been seeing some x-men 97 merchandise coming out on shelves lately and stuff and obviously magneto and the x-men cartoon has that long-haired like

jacked look i think he should carry over that look into the mcu when you bring in a new magneto to differentiate between ian mckellen and michael fastender, who have that short hair, like classic kind of look. I think you bring in fucking some long silver haired stud to play Magneto. Hmm. Long silver haired stud. Do we have any of those around? I don't know who that could be. I don't know who that could be.

In the replies or in the comments, give us some Magneto young long haired studs. Josh Brolin. Just cast Thanos again. I got it. Pedro pascal there you go you know what i got someone even better chris bratt um rogue killing her boyfriend always freaked me the fuck out as a kid when you see the veins in his face from her kissing him and everything very very creepy in the comics he's a different name shout out to mt from heavy spoilers for pointing out they changed his name to david in the movie as a shout out to david hater the writer of the movie okay that's nice um freaked me out though and anna paquin does a great job

as rogue i really like her as rogue yeah anna paquin had had a moment there for a little while i remember she was pretty hot there in hollywood uh has she been doing anything lately i don't know that's a good question when she kissed him like you could see his like soul leaving his body basically but i was like i felt like it should have been i guess you probably can't 2000 really i feel like they you really would like see as like skeleton at some point or really gnarly shit um but the the rogue her like tragedy her tragic story with her powers is one of i think the coolest dynamics they have um again a lot of it was in the cartoon that i saw uh more so than the comics even and she just can't touch anybody just fucked man yeah it's

like pushing daisies. Remember that show? Wow, yeah. That was Mrs. Clem for a bit there. She was going on. I loved that show. I loved it. I was way too young to love it. It was weird.

I remember my brother coming down from his room and being like, you're watching Pushing Daisies before school? I was in fifth grade. I was like, yeah, I love it. I mean, the fact Robbie Fox was a school at the age of 12 was all you um i mean the fact robbie fox was a school the 80 age of 12 was all you and the fact you have turned out to be the opposite of how i think someone like that

would turn out is amazing it's it's it's no it's nothing short of incredible bro people call me an old soul and i always kind of like roll my eyes at it a little bit but i really had an old soul moment when gia came around the office doing that trend where she goes, name a woman. And you got to think on your feet really quick. I just went, Julie Newmar, who's 90 years old. She played Catwoman in the 1960s Batman series, which I texted my girlfriend about that. I was like, oh, have you seen that trend, like the name a woman thing? I thought it was funny to tell her.

She's like, yeah, who did you say? I said, Julie Newmar. And she wrote, who is she? All caps. was funny to tell her she's like yeah who did you say i said julie newmar and she wrote who is she all caps and i was like she's 90. i thought you're gonna say the same one as me as soon as you said that i'm like who would i say and i said julia roberts i'm like don't tell me oh julie julia kind of on the same page there um and rogue eventually hitches a ride up to canada and everything when she hitches a ride that truck driver is the voice of beast from the x-men cartoon great voice great great like hurley husky voice yeah yeah intelligent has a little intelligence in there too uh i'm man i fucking love beast and that's one thing that in this movie and then um obviously

get him in the future movies but an og x-men too it's fucking we supposed to be in this they cut them for budgeting reasons they didn't have the budget to do the beast costume cgi makeup nightcrawler also cut from this movie because of that i i read that the 70 mil that 75 million budget was actually less than most studios were given out for like you know what what could have been with this which actually ended up becoming in terms of a hit but the fact that i think it was like uh let's let's make sure people want to go see these guys in the theater first so we lost beast we lost nightcrawler we get them down the road i was thinking like man Nightcrawler they could have really fucked that up if they had made that in the 80s he's one of those guys him yeah even

Colossus they would have looked like that Fantastic Four movie that was shot in like fucking Lithuania or something back in the day they could have really blown that so I'm almost happy they didn't do that another thing that I've actually I've talked about how much I love X-Men it's the comics it's the show obviously these movies as well the video game the arcade game was a big part of why i loved x-men and i'm just thinking about how good like some of those characters were they translated onto the screen and obviously uh we saw later in the cartoon here so i feel like i'd rather see that version of colossus than an 80s movie We're very lucky that they took their time with it. Also, me and Devlin were talking about this yesterday, the arcade game.

I wonder how long that campaign, if you want to call it, is. How long would it take to beat that game? That would be a fun stream. You and me trying to beat the X-Men arcade game in one sitting. I think I might have beaten it. It can't be that long. First of all, let me just say the first and maybe only arcade game i ever beat as a kid was the x-men game i hopped in in like the last

level i remember and i saw the end of it i thought i like just became president united states like the highest honor you could have uh now and i i either beat that or ninja turtles over the pandemic but pandemic brain mush i don't even know which one it was that would be a fun i have it in the house i have like a thing that has all the arcade games if we could figure out how to stream that that could be a bob and clem uh that'd be really fun stream right there we just go through we do that we do the turtles turtles i'd love to do turtles was my jam back in the day especially when they re-released it for like xbox 360 me and my brother immediately replayed it yep that's a great one and then uh there was there was one more that was like the four player uh simpsons simpsons yeah obviously that's what it was i beat the simpsons i definitely beat oh yeah i remember you talking to me about that yeah that was a moment that was

a moment in life right there so maybe we'll do that on the basement. We're not doing this unless we have 50,000 subscribers with Bob. I'm just going to be honest. I'm not going to run around here. I'm not going to give you any fodder to make it look like I'm retiring from the podcast like you did, which was a great thing. I just have no faith forever in Hit 50k. It's just that number. I saw Jerry was complaining on Twitter that

the algorithm has fucked him out of 300k. I don't know if it's that or we just are not loved enough. I cannot be loved anymore anymore i i am me i cannot be any other character than myself if it's not worth your subscription i apologize yeah we got we got a couple hundred since the last show but we're still like 3 000 away and we got you know what 15 days to go it's getting dire it's getting dire circumstances it always hurts when it's like there's more retweets and likes of it than the actual yeah that does hurt come on um there were there are a couple fun cameos in this movie like that though like the beast one um producers directors kevin feige was supposed to have one as a general that was cut i really wish it wasn't cut

it would have been great to have a young kevin feige screenshot from this movie you know like it's like how some of the wwe wrestlers will debut as an extra in like someone's entrance and then 10 years later it's like he's cm punk and it's like we have that seeing stone cold as the ringmaster yes that guy became stupid stuff like that yeah like kevin feige that nerd general became the guy who made endgame you know yeah allowed that entire saga to blossom into this beautiful fruit yeah it would be amazing i have a note just patrick stewart and ian mckellen as good as comic book casting gets hugh jackman is obviously right there with him but the chemistry and the scenes between these two

it's insane how good they are patrick stewart also i made a note right away i'm like he looks so young when i was a kid watching this i was like he's the oldest man alive now i'm looking i'm like is he 50 in this movie what the fuck dude i said the same exact thing i had to look it up i'm like yo i think they might have dyed his eyebrows i have to go back and see what patrick stewart's looking like in other movies around this time because i was like, is he younger than I am right now? Because that made me feel like absolute shit because I was like, oh, old ass

Professor X over here. Look at him back in 2000. Now I'm like, holy shit. He was 60 at the time. I had to look it up which means he's 83 today. And I'm not going to lie, Bob. I lost count again around the pandemic. We were losing a lot of fucking people. Did we lose Patrick Stewart or is he still around?

And I was so happy. When I go to Wikipedia and I see is instead of was, I'm like, oh, he still got Sir Patrick. I guess he's an English actor. Nonetheless, though, 60 at the time, brown eyebrows, has life in his body, real life. It's very great to see in the um like the screen for the movie like the uh when you load it up on prime there's a picture of wolverine and hugh jackman he was a little pudgy in this in the picture he's pudgy he's younger looking it is kind of crazy to see a lot of these people especially jackman see him then compared to now and it's like he's i mean

even in the later wolverine movies yeah he went and got the most shredded any human being has ever gotten ever he wasn't the original choice to play wolverine though actually the studio at one point in the 90s i think considered glenn danzig the founder of the misfits to play wolverine which is the weirdest casting choice i could ever think of and eventually one guy was cat i think uh gerard butler i believe turned it down didn't want to do it then they cast the villain from mission impossible 2 and because of his commitments to mission impossible 2 he had to back out of the role leading hugh jackman to get a call like nine men nine months after he auditioned they were like hey remember that x-men movie like you want to do it and he did it big controversy at the time because he was over six feet tall and comic book fans were like wolverine has to be five feet tall

ridiculous looking back at because obviously he is the perfect wolverine he's the perfect wolverine he's also i think he was like a no name at the time right like this was his first was yeah i don't think he was at least like he wasn't like people didn't love hugh jackman like they do now yeah and again x-men guy back then and i think 90 of x-men people it's like wolverine i'm an x-men fan wolverine's my fucking guy like that's just how you kind of go i love barstool dave dave's my guy like that's just how it's been yeah but there is like in the comic book sometimes you know like they play up wolverine's like height sometimes you forget that he's that because he's such a crazy motherfucker and stuff i imagine the short people were not happy about

that you know that's all that's the short king away from us away from us i have this list of potential wolverine candidates i don't know how much of them is like they were written down as a you know we'd love to have or how much actually read for it or even had an offer thrown out but i had russell crowe mel gibson uh van damme vegal mortensen edward norton who's like seven feet tall keanu reeves and gary sinise which keanu reeves is wolverine is just a complete mind fuck for such a chill guy. Whoa, Klaus. What's up, bub? Collaborate. Let's go collaborate. Tell you what, speaking of other candidates,

Michael Jackson wanted to play Xavier and openly campaigned for it. He was like, I would love to play Xavier in the X-Men movie. Do it in the Michael Jackson voice, please. I can't do a Michael Jackson. I would love to play.

I don't even know. Does he have a high-pitched voice? I would love to play Xavier in the X-Men movies. Is that a Michael Jackson voice? Kind of? That's a good try. Okay. Listen.

Listen. This is about bigger than... That's your Mickey Mouse voice. That's the Mickey Mouse voice. Yeah, Marvel apparently never even considered it. They were like, yeah, we didn't even think about doing that. I would really love to play Professor Xavier. He's just, I've been persecuted in my life,

and I'd love to be someone else that tries to, you know, fight for the little guy out there. It's not bad. Miss Minutes bled in there at some point but it's not bad i'm gonna work on my little southern at some point i think i'm wearing i can't be wearing the magneto helmet doing charlotte james as charlotte david there's just too many lines being crossed on that one there so yeah i also don't want to like i don't want to actually have like a good michael jackson because it's like we were past that. The Simpsons episode got taken down.

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I love the mansion. No, I get no fun facts about the mansion. So first of all, it's in Westchester, New York. And Westchester County, I'm literally literally i'm the next town up basically from westchester county so it always had a a good place in my heart i imagine if it existed in real life it would be a 15 minute drive 20 minute drive from my house which i love this mansion in the movie served as the same mansion as the madison mansion in billy madison and that made my day wow that's crazy i love all of the set design in this movie the set design the locations they chose the mansion cerebro

the entire like hallway to lead into cerebro all of that stuff a plus i even love the costuming and all the costume design which was another thing about this movie at the time people hated people were like put them in the fucking yellow and blue. What are you doing? But they felt like to do a more realistic, grounded take on the X-Men, put them in the black and orange. And that was like my Halloween costume when I was five. I absolutely loved the black and orange. Do you like the suits?

So I was probably one of those people who was very bummed out when they did not use the suits at the same point like even when you see the uh picture of hugh jackman in deadpool 3 it's it is a preposterous look it looks less preposterous in the comics but when you just take a step back the only person i know whoever has driven a yellow truck is uncle chaps he admittedly has a crazy person brain so it's like i can't like i can't just be like these superheroes which is supposed to be cool and badass are going to dress in the you know this crazy spandex again the only person who probably dressed like that in barstool's probably uncle chaps love the guy but it's like different different kind of human altogether

so i guess these guys aren't humans though so maybe i'm the one for not thinking that but even the line where there's they're like wolverine uh cyclops has the wolverine he's like what would you want yellow spandex like that was a great line like yeah that would be absurd oh wait a second so i was definitely one of the people who was mad who was mad about it back then i'll probably be one of the people mad about it if they don't make their costumes comic book accurate in the next movies but looking back it was probably the right decision it was a little like vanilla i think like now looking back everything's a little muted but again i don't think this was the kind of movie they were trying to swing and hit homer i think

they were just trying to hit a stand-up double yeah and this this wolverine it feels like he would be like what the fuck like it feels like he needs a black leather suit to match his motorcycle jacket or whatever. Kicking and screaming to get him in that outfit, you would have to do this, right? Yeah. I love his cage fighter intro. That rules when he just is beating the shit out of someone with his adamantium claws and everything.

I wrote shockingly great effects on his claws when they show him coming through his skin, retracting back. I thought that all looked good. I love the scene in the car with rogue where they're just talking back and forth kind of learning a little bit about each other and then he gets yeeted out of that car he goes a hundred feet out that windshield crazy and the saber tooth fight that follows is ridiculous it kind of reminds me of like the lou farigno incredible hulk in a couple ways where it's like it's so like slow motion shots of him jumping and you could tell

there's wire work going on the ray parks toad ridiculous but he really works for this movie he was actually one of those characters where they made him kind of more badass and cool in the movie than he ever was in the comics so after this movie they just started rewriting all of the comics for toad to be basically ray park who famously played darth maul in the phantom menace he has a moment in this movie where he grabs a fucking pole and he spins it like he's darth maul and it's like they wink at the audience being like, remember that guy? I had the note in there because I wanted to just like, I'm sure Bobby Fox to this day probably gets like butterflies in his stomach getting a little Darth Maul. And it's like, and they killed that fucking guy. He was so goddamn cool.

Like they didn't have to kill him. You don't have to kill your villains. They kill him. They kill him and they kill him in this. Ray Park, he can't get cast in a movie without dying, apparently. He's Bean, the guy who played Ned Stark. He dies in like the end of the movie season. Sean Bean, is it?

Sean Bean, yes. So the Wolverine stuff, the best part about Wolverine is kind of just like his personality. He's like an asshole, but he kind of like, he's just for coming from a fucked up place and whatever. I got the, the cage scene. I did have a little bit of a bone crusher, Spider-Man.

Oh yeah. There's two. Bonesaw. Bonesaw is ready. I love like the little thing where he's just breaking hands because his fucking he has the adamantium claws uh the the claws were good i think the claws were like had to be top three most important yeah of this movie you can't fuck up wolverine in general let alone the claws you don't put him in the yellow spandex all right even like the brown which i think is good too

okay you gotta fucking nail even the Wolverine, the mask he has, that doesn't really make sense. Like you'd be like with the dunce cap. You'd just be hitting, which apparently he's going to wear in Deadpool three. That's the rumors that he will have the mask. He will have the mask. Yeah.

I'm seeing Mincy hit every single doorframe with that gun. Scab was the most doorframes. He didn't adjust once. One. Yeah. And Wolverineine that's the thing actually i'm saying this wolverine is the short king he doesn't even go near the toilet door frame that kind of makes that makes perfect sense i this was a fun fact i read about i think it was in jackson's wikipedia uh and again some of this shit i think they just make up and being like no

one's gonna cross references i don't know if it's true or not. It says he took ice cold showers every morning at 5. AM. So he'd just be up for the day fucking pissed. So you'd be like Wolverine. You have that demeanor about you. Right. And he said, uh, dirty Harris, Clint Eastwood. He said, Mel Gibson and Mad Max and Mike Tyson before fights to kind of get in that

Wolverine mindset. And I'm like, okay, I can, I, I can see that. That's good. And this is something Hugh Jackman is probably like, Holy shit. This role can turn me into what he is 23 years later. Right. He's I can see someone doing something that's been like, I got to fucking do this. I got to nail this role. And I mean, that's one way. Cause like he is Wolverine. I will say,

the studio has told us many times he is Wolverine. Anyone else in that role, no matter what, no matter what the time setting is. times he is Wolverine. We don't need to put anyone else in that role no matter what, no matter what the time setting is. So he's Wolverine. So good work on him. It's going to feel very weird the day he is not Wolverine, right? Yeah. And we thought we got to that day with Logan, but they were like, nope.

We yanked him back like a yo-yo. But I am still excited to see him play Wolverine and this new version of Wolverine, if it is a new version of him the yellow suit and all that I also love that fun fact about Iron Mike Tyson I want like a shirt that looks like an Iron Mike shirt that says like Adamantium Logan like a fighter shirt something like that heavyweight fighter shirt um I also like I said interesting story they chose Wolverine joining the X-Men. He wasn't an original X-Men in the comics.

He actually wasn't. Um, but for me growing up, like this team of X-Men that they chose, what were my X-Men? They were my original X-Men. I didn't know anything prior. Um, and a lot of things in this movie are established that don't really need explaining and they don't explain it like the relationship between cyclops and gene gray like that you understand like that and i feel like movies nowadays would spend too much time when they would give them a full scene where they talk about their love and their relationship and shit like that doesn't feel

rushed um it was andrew kevin walker who wrote a draft in 1994 that also featured xavier recruiting logan into the x-men that apparently this was similar to also i love that it's team versus team right away and you get magneto's evil lair and like they're you know fixing the machine or creating the machine to mutate people senator kelly is a great shitty eating villain where he's a kind of a villain kind of not by the end of the movie understands the the errors of his ways for being very anti-mutant is what's with mutinous is that the racist word for mutants he's a dickish white is what i would call him he's a dickish white he's a dickish white he's causing problem i don't did they use wasp in the movie i had it on close caption i don't know if it was this or another thing i was watching where they called him a wasp

and i was like they might have yeah wasp kind of guy the guy plays the role very well he doesn't need to even play the role his face does it all for him right and his face gets all stretched the way that that looks when he comes out of the bars that was some 2000 cgi so i'm serious and they're like and you have to understand back and they're like we got this like we don't have the terminator 2 like guy on set and or the money but we'll we'll do enough there uh i made the mistake or not even the mistake it wasn't really my fault they just came down the kids came down and wanted to like they didn't even want to watch it which i thought was kind of bummed me out but they just watched it and aj saw when the senator died and he was petrified i think he said he had a nightmare that night and it is a pretty

fucking like haunting scene even as an adult to watch it i couldn't imagine watching it through the lens of a five-year-old's kids eyes but that was that was a bad parenting move by me i'm just gonna go out and say i'll put it on the podcast right now. Sabretooth also just ridiculous in this movie with the contacts, the eyebrows. Fun fact about Sabretooth, role originally offered to wrestling's Kevin Nash. He was Super Shredder in the Turtles. He was also in Magic Mike. He did a couple movie roles in his life. He turned it down.

They gave it to another WCW jobber. Just a random WCW jobber. They wanted a wrestler in that role for the physicality. I think Liev Schreiber was later cast as Sabretooth. Yes. He's the voice on Hard Knocks too, which is always a mindfuck. And the voice on 24-7 NHL Road to the Winter Classic, which doesn't exist anymore,

but was the best sports documentary series for my money. i loved it um stupid i was extremely disappointed with saber-toothed like i think at the time i was i probably was like whatever this is just what it is in the year 2000 like i'm not gonna cry too much about it looking back you're like this is even worse than i i remember in the fight so for two two things i don't think there's not there's nearly enough fights in all this considering they kind of could yada yada a lot of the personal stuff i wish there was more fights but then i'm also like i think more fights would have made me hate the movie more because the fights were not very good uh toad i i did not like toad i did not like is there any chance we get Toad in Deadpool 3?

I'm thinking about it. I hope he is murdered in fucking World of Warcraft. And being like, this is for everyone from 2000. We did it for you, right? Bring Ray Park back too, fuck. I'm just thinking about it. Well, that's what I'm thinking. Like, Ray Park is still in great shape.

He still looks exactly the same. He might be ridiculous enough to get a Deadpool quip. Like, just because it's... It's also also he has one of the worst death scenes like i i think i've brought this up on the podcast before it's one of the worst lines of dialogue that i've never understood storm says i wrote it down do you know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning and you're expecting like some cool line to come and she says same thing that happens to everyone else and then she hits him with lightning like wait what did you start that sentence and not know where it was going storm is very strange but i do like storm in this movie another casting that they knocked out of the park oh yeah you cannot go wrong you cannot go wrong

with that and this this was very pretty much my x-men team again like you throw beast on but it's like cyclops is the leader storm is kind of uh i remember the comics it was like i think it was x-men and uncanny x-men but i think cyclops and storm are the leaders of each faction it was kind of nwo and the wolf pack to go back to the wrestling side of things which man kevin nash i almost want kevin nash to be like an older saber tooth now he's kind of beat up and he's just drinking canadian beer i'd love to see him in deadpool just make an appearance he could be the silver-haired fox that plays magneto too there we go yeah you know we're getting kevin we're getting kevin nash cast and i'm telling you you i i don't know if they've ever met i'm telling you kevin nash and ryan reynolds i bet would be

fucking it all famously together so i i oh speaking of ryan reynolds i don't think i've said on the podcast ryan reynolds followed me on twitter after the last podcast we did a podcast where i mentioned that i don't think his statement on the deadpool three leaks is necessarily going to help the deadpool three leaks and in the middle of the night that night ryan reynolds followed me on twitter and he doesn't follow that many people I think he follows like maybe 1500 people and he has 21 million followers or some shit like that I didn't tag him in any tweets

I didn't nobody tagged him in my tweets so I don't know how he found it but we gotta figure out how to parlay that into getting Deadpool in the basement or us on the Deadpool red carpet something like that or get Kevin if we were selfless we would get Kevin Nash lay that into getting Deadpool in the basement or us on the Deadpool red carpet, something like that. Alright, or

get Kevin. If we were selfless, we would get Kevin Nash on a project. No, fuck that. We're not doing that for Kevin Nash. He's had enough good stuff in his life. This is going back to the basement. My guy Bob, get him the red carpet cameo just in the background somewhere.

Yeah, we could be in the void. Is there anyone who is just like crushed life and like i think there was a point where people like a little jealous of him or like oh he's just the same character this and that and it's like nope just gets married to blake lively seems to have a very healthy like personal relationship seems to have everyone like him and just every time it's like sells this for a billion dollars makes a billion dollars doing that i mean just crunching fucking life and he follows my guy bob what a fucking win what do i twitter back in the day if you got followed by a celebrity was like

i remember when poor zing is following was holy shit yeah he's lost a little of the charm ryan reddell supersedes all that though he is fucking and like you said only 1500 that's like so he might have pressed the button himself yeah every every time i tweet now i'm like ryan reynolds might see this yep yep it's always very interesting when you're worried about what the person's gonna see and think of it um let's tell the people about c4 now i'll hit him bob hit him with the c4 c4 ultimate energy you've got the supercharged energy here, courtesy of the WWE. Unleash your inner WWE superstar. WWE and C4 ultimate energy have teamed up to provide ultimate, undisputed energy, packing a powerful punch of 300 milligrams of caffeine

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all the time this is probably a kevin nash podcast which i love big sexy big diesel i feel like kevin nash there is a non-zero chance kevin nash comes into the basement one day and i he has a podcast doesn't he he does he has a podcast i think he's like a good dude like he like goes out yeah he tries to help people he like has because the click back in the day i as an old i remember when the click was making their news back in the day they weren't exactly the guys you'd want to be you know like the best of people and i'm not saying i'm not gonna want everyone you know the the company you keep us barstool people were probably seen as the devil by some people on the internet right tell you what to loop this back to X-Men, the click would be making statements like, what do they call you?

Wheels? Hatline by Logan. I was like, whoa. Apparently in the script it was said Baldy and he ad-libbed that. Really? Yeah. And they kept it, which again, I don't know if either of those fucking play. Again, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong.

This is just the time that we're living right now. You can't say Wheels in 2023. You can't make that joke. That made me gasp. But if we're all being honest with each other, it made me laugh. It was very funny. It was very funny in the moment. And look, Wolverine, that's the thing.

This new MCU, again, maybe preferably in Deadpool because it's going to have the R rating. I would like my Wolverine to be gruff, to be fucking smoking his stokings down to the fucking tip and just looking like he woke up from an all-night bender. I'm not sure we're going to get it, but I would like to see it. I'd like a couple jokes that are maybe a little off-color. I'm not saying we're going to be rude or have any kind of ists about it, but I would like a fucking fucked up Wolverine. I'd like a little Wolverine that's rough around the edges.

I guess you could also go crazy. And this is a multiverse Wolverine. He's fucking all nice and prissy. I don't think that's going to happen though. With Ryan Reynolds, his brain involved in all this kind of speaking of that though, the casting decision, what do you think about,

how do you think cyclone Cyclops holds up with our boy, James Marsden from a, did you watch jury duty? Yeah. I love jury duty. One of the best shows of the year. I always loved Cyclops holds up with our boy James Marsden From, did you watch Jury Duty? Yeah, I love Jury Duty, one of the best shows of the year I always loved Cyclops I always thought he was like one of the coolest heroes He was always my favorite action figure My favorite X-Men growing up

I just thought he was awesome Maybe the glasses thing played a factor I know from growing up on the internet That people always just call them like a whiny bitch In these movies In X-Men 1 He kind kind of is if we're being honest like i still love him i think james marsden does a good job with like the role that he was written to play but he's kind of just like they kind of treat him like the dick boyfriend of like jean gray where wolverine's obviously

your protagonist and main character in this movie like you're rooting for him so you have an urge to like if wolverine wants to get with gene gray i kind of want him to get with gene gray like you know it's he's kind of just the the boyfriend of this movie he he he's he was just written to have no fucking chance and yeah my wife has actually said she goes he he's a pansy in those movies i don't know i don't know she doesn't get canceled for that lot but it is like and he plays actually that role kind of like the overprotective dickish boyfriend it's also like there is just some dude that's kind of like trying to fuck his girlfriend and see yeah calling him a dick the you're a dick uh line about it's just a real wolverine or not and then the middle finger claw.

I remember those both crushed in the theater. Yeah. LOLs. And it still holds up to this day. He is very aggro towards Scott, which again, you do have that dynamic in the comic books a little bit, but it's it,

he really can't wait. And that's the thing that I hope they, they, they do succeed in, in the new movies is making Cyclops. I'm not saying he has to be fucking awesome. He is a good fucking leader in the comedy. He could be awesome.

He should be awesome. He should be awesome. And it's like we need to right the wrongs. I bet the man who should not be named the director of this movie probably had some fucking kind of like beef with Cyclops or some sort of thing. And he wrote. James Marsden stole his girl or something. Exactly. Which I mean, shoot, the way James Marsden acts in Jury Duty,

if you haven't seen Jury Duty yet, it is a hilarious premise. It's a great show. It's on Prime 2, yeah. And I think I didn't finish it. I was like, I think I have one or two left. Basically, the premise is these people are going in for jury duty. One guy, it's kind of like joe

millionaire for the people that are joe schmoe is that what is joe schmoe joe schmoe yeah and basically you uh everyone is it's an actor except for one guy who has no idea that he's basically they're acting like this is all real life a jury duty just crazy shit happens and he has no clue and james marsden plays himself in the in the thing as an actor because i think it's in la it's all shot too yeah so it gives it the whole realism thing and it is just incredible but and james marston i forget like he had fucking sonic the hedgehog he has obviously the x-men movies he has some fucking heavy hitters in his fucking catalog there so i wish he had done better i'm right now, though, when we watch all these things with him, the pansy meter.

Let's have this cycle. Okay. Yeah. What would you say it's at for X-Men 1? Where do you think he is here? We'll go ball scale. Ball scale. One to five.

I'll say right now he's at a 3.5. It's not like crazy right now, but it's a little more than average. Yes. It's like, why you trigger, bro average yes it's like why you triggered bro why if so like it's he's not wrong again but he does have some pansy i'm right with you 3.5 what's that line he has at at logan where he's like she wouldn't be my girl if i had to say that oh yeah great love triangle though especially for like the school movie dynamic and everything

if they're the the older people going through that i like it yeah i like the love speaking of his girlfriend and gene gray in general funky johnson i mean see how i threw the fucking i got the european accents on there i made sure in case you're listening i did i said i don't know if you could be a subtle smoke show but she's like the most subtle, absolute fucking rocket smoke. Like sometimes when you like Rebecca remains, when she's in the movie, you just like mystique.

Yeah. Gasp. Funky Johnson in this movie, in, uh, in rounders where she kind of plays like, you know, Mike's buddy.

And the fact he doesn't even like make a pastor when she's kind of laying the, lay it on pretty thick for him. And in Goldeneye, when she plays the chick with the thighs that can crush you, which is, like, a whole other fucking... I have to do a podcast just about those scenes. Oh, my God. Just, like, if you...

If I saw Funkin' Johnson on the street, I would fucking just, like, melt like the senator does. But in this movie, she just is so muted or whatever, but she still is just absolutely smoking hot and i don't know i just haven't i've always had a little bit of a thing for gene gray and it does not stop with famke johnson playing her i can't believe i've just kept up this famke johnson accent thing as long as i think because i've never said it in my life before i say her

name like a normal idiot new yorker most of the time um there's a great subtle stanley cameo in this movie no lines just you see him on the beach as the senator's coming back i thought that was cool um goofy ass scene with wolverine stealing cyclops's motorcycle the way they shot that was like just so 2000s and right here i remember at the time thinking that was pretty cool and then i watched him like that wasn't cool at all. It's kind of like the mounted camera where he doesn't move, but his backgrounds. Yeah.

It's just not good. And then there's not a, it's not a great scene with him and rogue on the train. He's trying to stop her from leave. It's just the, the movie hits a little snag there. Magneto saves it pretty quickly when he comes into the train station and starts fucking

shit up when he bends wolverine's claws to kind of extend and stuff that looks nasty and then he just mercs a bunch of cops and he does the thing where he shoots the bullet into the cop's forehead but he stops it like on his forehead great great scene where ian mckellen just gets to be like the big fucking badass that he is also kind of accentuates how stupid Toad and Sabretooth are. And they're like next to him being the most awesome. Like he's like given like a Shakespearean performance in front of that. And fucking Toad is like, remember Darth Maul? Like Toad actually is not above this.

Sabretooth is above just being the henchman next to Magneto. And, but it does play out perfectly because you have Xavier in the car. He then takes over Sabretooth has, you know, starts choking him. And obviously Magneto, he learns has the, the helmet that prevents him from doing that.

But the, the Charles Magneto dynamic is so fucking cool. And that is one thing that I think kind of gets glossed over. I think that gets lost in the movie. I would have rather maybe had a little bit more of that about their relationship like you do learn oh he helped me build cerebro you do learn x-men fans know that going in about their their history together but i think a lot of people who this is their first experience would have no clue and obviously they do stuff different in the other movies

uh but that is one thing but that entire scene where he's like charles i don't know if i'm gonna be able to control all these if i shoot again right and seeing the fucking the the bullet going into the guy's head is one of those scenes that has like stayed with me like that was fucking gnarly scene so metal metal definitely confirmed metal the another metal no pun intended when wolverine puts the claws through rogue i forgot oh yeah he almost kills her, then she almost kills him. That's an intense scene. And the fact that she uses his healing power

to then heal herself, I always thought was very cool. I think Rogue's powers in general, where she can then take the stuff, and then they say it later at the end of the movie, where she takes Wolverine's powers, and she's like, yeah, she's taking on some of

your other charming like personality i can see rogues be like shut the fuck up smoking a cigar being an absolute asshole to everyone because she has wolverine stuff so it's a great twist too and on the train he's like what do you want with me and he's like with you you think i want you he's like no great it was the whole movie you think they're after wolverine as they should be he's the fucking man it's like no they're after rogue because they need her powers for the fucking mutation device yes i love that twist and i i had forgotten about how just how much it is really about rogue that is one of my favorite parts of this movie um is is the twist and all that stuff because you do think they're're going from Wolverine the entire time, the whole thing with Magneto too. It almost feels like this,

the, the, the, what's the word? His like plan, I guess we're turning people in the moods almost could have been like part two where it's like, really you give a movie and a half to really build up the humans and their

hatred of the mutants. And it's like, all right, now I'm going to show you guys what are you going to do when everyone's a fucking mutant now. They kind of like fast forward it here just to get it done. They're probably like, this might be the only fucking X-Men movie we ever get. But I did appreciate that because it's like, if you're racist, if you're misogynistic, if you're basically anything in the world,

and the next morning you wake up as that person, are you less of a person? It just really does make you kind of fuck with your mind a little bit, as it should. So I did appreciate that. Man, people are going to be so mad when X-Men comes out. It's going to be like when Ray's machine says something. Yes. Oh, fuck.

Why are you singing about politics all of a sudden? When you think the machine is, guys, come on. One time for me. Now I'm dreading it now too i'm like oh it's gonna be i know it's gonna be it's gonna be annoying yeah oh maybe it'll come at the perfect time maybe the x-men can actually unite the world maybe that's what we need is the x-men to like show people yeah um we get the original statue of liberty final battle before no way home which actually released on this day two years ago um we get one in x-men one

i wonder if we'll get a little quip about this in deadpool 3 if they go back to the statue of liberty he's like we're not fucking doing that again i could see a ryan reynolds quip about that i love how it's always new york man even going back to these new york is just getting shit on the insurance premium you spent the whole movie in canada and they're like let's go back to the city for the final act like the tatooine right so you gotta go back to new york city uh like destroy a monument or whatever i love that they use the statue of liberty though like i thought that was a very cool thing because it's you know liberty and ellis island liberty island like we're talking about immigrants yeah yeah it really works i yeah it definitely works i appreciate it and it also

gave me a little bit of pangs for ghostbusters too where they get in the statue and that's all last night i was watching it last night really said that yeah is there any there's it's not christmasy right it's i think it takes place no it's not there's no any i was trying to think there should be a christmas ghostbusters though maybe the new one the new one's supposed to be like the ice age or yeah it gets but i think it gets cold in the summer but maybe they somehow that's right christmas into it i fucking i was very disappointed with those but i ghostbusters one was my favorite movie ghostbusters two let me down but that was also the first time i ever heard your love is lifting me higher and if you can't walk out of the kid you're fucking hopeless uh but the i did like the whole uh imagery they used i guess

in all this yeah um let me ask you this as a big x-men fan lifelong x-men fan does the quinjet live up to the hype they give it kind of a batwing-esque scene where they're they're trying to show it off a little bit yeah watching it back i thought it was super cool as a kid watching back i was like is the perfect that you nailed it bob you got it then that fucking like two letter review of it especially when it had its time in the cartoons and you're like oh shit and listen i i understand i'm gonna like maybe i'm just being extra nice on this because it is 23 years ago and i don't know i i mentioned secret invasion yesterday. So that got put back into my brain. So I, yeah, things can be worse when it's all said and done, but like, I appreciate

that they did the little things. Like if they could track this or they could find this, like they deserve it. Like they're kind of building it up without building it up. Uh, so I was like, man, like it is what it is. It does not feel like a very special jet at all no you know what was interesting to me is i thought it was cooler to see them strapped in together in the suits inside the quinjet than it was to see the actual quinjet you know seeing wolverine like strapped up and ready to go is like oh shit like we're about to

go to war here and the third act is good it's cheesy in a lot of parts when they go into the fucking gift shop and the mystique eyes are on the statue of liberty it's like who the fuck thought that was a good idea that's the worst thing i've ever seen it's a scooby-doo ass moment but it like it kind of works too like but it's so goofy but. I would love to hear. This is what I was thinking. I'm right there with you, Bob. Trust me. And I'm like, do you think she posed it to Magneto or

Magneto posed it to her? Hey, let's have Mystique dressed up as the Statue of Liberty or morphed into the Statue of Liberty in case anyone comes in. And if no one comes in, he's just sitting there, standing for fucking like three hours. Her arm must have been barking by the end of that and i don't care what shape she is your arm has to hurt if you're

having fucking imposed for fucking like five hours potentially right yeah that was that was legitimately crazy and a lot of the scenes in the statue of liberty with toad that's where i'm like fuck this guy fuck him dude the wire work is crazy on him in these scenes like it's so obvious he's hanging like mission impossible style from the states like and they try to hide it with his tongue you could tell they just put like his tongue effect over where the wire was it doesn't really work um but they do the wolverine first wolverine fight which is pretty cool like mystique as wolverine that was the one that kei he kwan or ki hu kwan helped choreograph oh okay back when he worked on this movie i appreciate the his claws rip her claws

apart because his adamantium and she lets out the scream i'm also like she should be like her body just got ripped i know like nerves or something nerve endings yeah everything and just but i guess like it's a comic movie everything would just if it happened to any of this happened to any of us we would be dead like if wolverine crushed my hand with his fist i'd be like i would just die i would just die what's what's mystique's real name again rebecca rebecca romaine rebecca romaine shout out to her for sitting in the makeup chair for like seven hours every day to make this. And I was one of the funniest things back in the like, again, this is the Uber fucking like testosterone driven 2000s, 90s, whatever. It's like you're taking Rebecca Romaine Stamos and you're hiding that beautiful woman behind all that, you know, plastic and paint. And I think she married a Jerry O'Connell still.

Really? Yeah, you didn't know that? So she was known for years. I mean, she became Rebecca Romaine Stamos. It was just part of her name. Her and John Stamos were together in the worst. And Jerry O'Connell, I mean, truly. I think I just saw him bragging about his wife on Pardon My Take. He's talking about Mystique?

It was, yeah, he's like still married to a supermodel there was a google it and it's just like jerry's jerry ricanel just like such a good he actually the sweetest fucking story i've ever met in my life and most of those reside in the basement he might even be a closet basement guy for all i know but i just i'm so happy for my song that uh live doesn't show in la we did a few years ago and he was like just had the biggest grin on his face he was just so happy to be around everyone it was just i'm not talking like the barstool people he was just happy just to be in a crowd of other barstool people we're just having the dozen playing the game so if anyone could be uh married to rebecca romaine i'm happy it's him

man it's awesome yeah good for him's awesome. Yeah, good for him. The third act overall, pretty good, I would say. You get a lot of good moments. A lot of X-Men get to show their individual powers, get to shine. You get the Toad Splat, which came with his action figure back in the day. I remember they gave you a little slime, a little ooze, and Cyclops gets to turn down his little reverse lobot fucking thing and hit it right off her thing um neat little origin for rogues white hair that they give you i like that freaking her hair it's good mystique eyes on the senator at the end when

they're watching the news that is so ridiculous because you think like did nobody else notice that just the x-men were like oh look at those yellow eyes imagine if nowadays a politician walked out of a courtroom and their eyes turned fucking glowing yellow for a second it would be on every single alex jones fucking conspiracy theory under the sun broken down frame by frame um and then the final scene with xavier char or not xavier charles charles x Xavier and Magneto in the prison playing chess and they've got the it's not the metal prison it's the plastic prison for him and everything all-time comic book scene perfect dialogue perfect symbolism with them playing chess and the perfect setup of a whole franchise the perfect culmin culmination of the score, the set design.

This is a 10 out of 10 flawless ending in my eyes. Obviously no post-credit scene. Cause we haven't gotten there in the MCU yet, but you don't need it. This almost serves as a post-credit scene where this is the tease. This is the, we got another villain and he's got this Joker card. They're like,

we're going to be at this forever. Amazing. Amazing. Probably my favorite scene in the movie, to be honest. it's that and like the the police stuff for me those it's when they're together basically whenever they're together it just plays and the entire dichotomy of the two of them i think i used dichotomy right and that you did right there uh it was it was awesome the lack of metal and you're like how is he how is he gonna get out of this one right i guess we'll find out the way they use them in X two.

Like we'll get to that when we do an X two pod, but the way they kind of flip him and turn him face for a little bit, like it really feels like even if they didn't plan it, it feels like they at least planned out the first two. Cause they, they, it bleeds into X two so well. And X two is one of my favorite comic book movies ever.

I think it holds up so much more than this one even. So I'm excited to get into that one eventually too. So I have a fun fact about that chess scene. And I don't know if it's true or not. And I don't know if this is going to hurt your level of it, your level of enjoyment of it. Should I tell it to you? Are you going to be all right with it, Bob?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think you could hurt my level of enjoyment for this. I cannot believe this is true, but it says it on the internet, so it must be true, right? Neither Sir Patrick Stewart nor Sir Ian McKellen knew how to play chess during filming. A chess master came in to teach them. That's funny. They all have sirs in their name. How do you not even just know the rules of chess?

Like, all right, the pawn goes one, the horse goes one, one, one. I don one one i think i know all the rules like you know the basic rules of you don't you kind of i know the pawn goes one i know the horse you go like up two and over one yeah it's a little one goes diagonal but i don't know which one like is it the one with the fucking with the with the weird top with the lip in it very good yeah you know your bishop bishop yes what's the one that looks like what's the one that looks like a tower uh that's the castle that's the rook do you know what he does that one do no i don't know what that one only go straight in one direction or the other so it can go all the way up how many all the way all the way yeah this motherfucker can just keep trucking

and then the king and queen can go anywhere they want diagonal all the way queen is basically your mother that's your your fucking rocket that thing can do anything straight diagonal as far as you want king can only go one spot but he dies over so he's robert baratheon yes yes he's just old bobby bath baratheon just sitting on his throne drunken drunken fat as fuck but if he's if he dies like everything's over so all right so that's all the pieces right now i know my chest you know more than sir patrick stewart and sir ian mcclellan did before they filmed that icon yeah so i wouldn't be good i mean i haven't played a chess game since I don't even know the last time I played chess game.

I wouldn't be good. I'd, I'd get the, what's the thing where you beat someone in like four moves. There's like a name for that. I'd get that done for me. But I, yeah,

I guess I could, I could sit at a chess board and kind of play. You, you know, more than they knew at the time, which I find again, I feel like if you're like British, you have to know how to play. I feel like it's like you drink tea and you play chess at some point.

You need crumpets, whatever crumpets are. You need crumpets. You need crumpets. All right. We will be back next week. I got a question for you. I wrote these down. If you don't have it, I didn't know if we were doing awards or anything.

I wrote MVP and LVP of the movie. Oh, okay. Yeah. Going forward. MVP of the movie. I will give to Ian McKellen in his short scenes as Magneto. He steals the scene every time. So I'll give Ian McKellen MVP LVP.

I'll give Sabretooth. I mean, Toad could be in the same realm but at least toad brought that character from like a jester to someone that could do acrobatics saber tooth was supposed to be one of wolverine's like biggest nemesis yeah i was kind of clowning this i imagine wolverine people who are already mad about the suit and everything the six foot two you then throw saber tooth to be this fucking weird looking dickhead right and i'm telling you you don't if big sexy's on set kevin nash ain't letting all this shit fly he's gonna make sure there's a world where everything happens a lot better if kevin nash is on set instead it actually works out perfect

because i was kind of between um the guys you chose and you chose them so i'll go different i'll go mvp wolverine just because like this was the birth of cube jackman becoming wolverine a celebrity all that kind of stuff and he is kind of like the main character of the movie i guess it kind of follows his path yeah right um and then lvp toad because he just fucking stunk even when he does that weird little dance and i'm just like hey i know how much i hated that stupid dance so i'll have him as my LVP. And then if we were to do a fast food review, I didn't think of this in advance. And it's weird. It's like, do I have to go from like a fast food back from like.

I know I'm thinking. I'm trying to think of a nostalgic fast food. I think I have one in my brain. I have one. I might've, I might've used this before. I'm going to go McDonald's Big Mac. I don't get the Big Mac very often. my brain i have one i might have i might have used this before i'm gonna go mcdonald's big mac i don't get the big mac very often um but i when i go back to it it does give me a little nostalgic feel and also it's pretty ambitious you're loading a lot of shit into that burger but it works in the

end i eat it and i don't feel amazing afterwards but i'm like that was delicious so yeah i'll go with big mac i like that i'm gonna go mcdonald's hot cakes so i don't know if i know what hot cakes are just pancakes i don't know why they call them hot cakes i don't know because they're not on a pan it's like if you notice like i think some cheese brands don't put like american cheese on the label it says like singles because it's like not enough cheese or whatever to be considered cheese i don't know why they call them hot cakes i imagine some weird mcdonald's reasoning for it uh but it's one of those things where it's like i remember loving them as a kid then i'll have them now be like oh

they're all right but then it's like oh no they were perfectly fine i don't know why they're only like mcdonald's is i think the only one that has pancakes i could be wrong in terms of fast food places but pancakes are fucking like the staple of breakfast. My kids, they'll love pancakes. That's one of their go-to. So it's like the fact that you go to McDonald's. But there is some things like I got it for my kids a few years ago, I remember, and it was the stickiest syrup. Like I remember just like it's crazier.

It's like stickier than crazy. We're basically, there is some things where it's like, there is a couple of hiccups along the way, but it's like absolute foundation franchise, foundation of breakfast foundation for comics and hold up pretty well. I think I've had them with my kids relatively recently. So McDonald's hotcakes for me, McDonald's big Mac for you. I'm interested to see how this goes going forward. It's fucking old school movie franchise. We'll'll see but this was an enjoyable rewatch i

really am glad that we kicked things off with the original x-men obviously will we do x2 next week or you think a regular pod next week x2 sometime next month what are you feeling uh i'm down for whatever i'm down the people want to let us know if they want us to go. Let us know in the comments. Yeah, let us know if you want us to go with like a nerd news mailbag episode next week, or we can go right into X2. If you guys want to do your homework, watch X2 with us. I would love that. Has one of the best opening sequences of any superhero movie ever.

They couldn't afford Nightcrawler in this movie. They were like, well, guess what? We're fucking urgent to use him in X2. They needed to use him in X2. So I'm excited to dive into that let us know in the comments below whether or not you want us to do x2 or nerd news podcast we'll of course get to x2 at some point soon and uh hopefully everyone is uh enjoying their holidays christmas parties office christmas parties don't get too drunk at your office Christmas party. Hope nobody got too drunk at the Barstool office Christmas party last

night. And we'll see you next week. I think we would have known. Probably would have been on Twitter everywhere. We would have known. And also let us know your fast food reviews. I want to hear what everyone else has to say. I want to know if we're on the right track with these or if we're running off. So let us know in the comments below. Talk to you next week.