My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 321 - 'X2' (2003) REWATCH AND REVIEW WITH CLEM

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Robbie and Clem continue their X-Men franchise rewatch series with ‘X2’ from 2003, where Magneto is forced to team up with the X-Men to take down William Stryker and his plan to kill all mutants. ...This follow up to ‘X-MEN’ is one of the most universally praised comic book projects of all time and was a favorite for the Basement Boys when it came out, but how does it hold up twenty years after its release?! Find out on this show! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT15 for 15% off your complete order at 3Chi.com! #XMen #Deadpool3 #MarvelStudios ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and 3C and the final episode of My Mom's Basement of 2023. It is Robbie and Clem as always, and we are here to break down, discuss, and look back at X2. Last week, we did X-Men. The first one came out in 2000. And we said, next week, maybe we'll do X2. Maybe we'll do something else. Maybe we'll do a mailbag or a year-end show, something like that. And the comments said, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:00:36 You don't blue ball us like that. You do X-Men, that means you're doing X2 next. So we're doing X2 today, Clem. You get off your ass and you review that fucking movies we're more than happy to spoiler alert no matter what you guys think of the x2 review there will not be an x3 review next week because i saw no everybody's basically off of the company usually they still throw some podcasts in there maybe a couple blogs will go up anything goes crazy but the basement lights will be off for a week. This is
Starting point is 00:01:05 maybe all for good. We didn't get to 50k as of right now. We have a week and a half left. It hurts. And listen, to everyone who subscribed, listen to this. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts to everyone who didn't subscribe. What the fuck, guys? I thought we were friends.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Trying to keep these lights on. Next week is the first week we're taking off and forever it feels like monday night raw like they never miss a week we usually never miss a week either but there's a lot of traveling going on with the holidays so i just didn't know if i would be able to squeeze an episode out but hopefully this week next week also i did a lot of interviews this year i kind of put them all in one timeline because i was making myself a little video a highlight video. I did 18 hours worth of interviews this year.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So if you're looking for some extra content, a lot of that stuff is evergreen. Music interviews, actor interviews, musician interview, whatever it is. Go back, check out some of those interviews. A lot of evergreen content. Also, we've done a lot of movie commentary tracks. So if you're looking to watch a movie like you've never watched it before, I'm going to tweet out a graphic and you'll be able to go back, look at all
Starting point is 00:02:10 the episodes, and watch the commentaries with our commentary. You're going to have to put that on the poster for movies like you've never watched before. You guys just, hey, listen, the Christmas break, I mean, you might not even have a Christmas break. If there's just the week between Christmas and New Year's
Starting point is 00:02:27 that you want to just have something on, especially the Robbie interviews too, just good vibes, like good mojo in the air. If you just need to cleanse the air, maybe. Maybe your family's like the Bear family, and you're like your Christmas is absolutely a fucking pressure cooker. Just throw the basement boys on in somewhere. As long as you
Starting point is 00:02:45 subscribe to the youtube you're allowed to do that if you didn't you're not allowed to do it i take back all my kind words to you that's right so let's get into x2 all right this x2 look back edition of my mom's basement is brought to you by 3g of all the things in life one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want whenever you want without the paranoia of consuming some sketchy black market stuff what's the best way to do that? With 3C, of course. 3C has the highest quality cannabis products from their delicious Delta 9 edibles and their industry-leading Delta 8 products to their new line of Delta 9 O-vapes. And today we've got something truly revolutionary to talk about. That is 3C's True Strains. You know, we're always looking for that perfect cannabis experience
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Starting point is 00:04:06 to their cookies and more. I love it all. Must be 21 or older to purchase. Please use responsibly. Now let's get back into this X2 breakdown. There's a lot to talk about on this movie. I got to say it is one of my favorite comic book movies ever. It was at the time and even re-watching it today. I re-watched it today as we're doing this it really holds up i was just so happy about it so nostalgic about it the slogan the tagline is the time has come for those who are different to stand united great tagline tells you what you need to know about the movie the villains are teaming up with the heroes and everything once again directed by brian singer boo written by michael doherty and dan harris this time so last time
Starting point is 00:04:47 was written by a solid snake david hater he is involved heavily involved in the storyboard writing of this movie as well but he didn't pen the actual screenplay released may 2nd 2003 it's got two hour 13 minute runtime and since the first one was such a success, they gave him an extra $50 million in the budget of this one. 125 mil, double that for marketing, about 250 million. And then the gross was 407 million. So once again, big success for 20th Century Fox and Marvel. The collaboration there did 85.6 million on opening weekend. There was budget cuts though.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So it had that huge budget, but it did have budget cuts. They had to cut Sentinels and the danger room out of this movie. Also beast beast has that little, you see like a television debate where they throw out the Hank McCoy name. That was supposed to be a full fledged role that they couldn't do once again. That the full breadth of the movie listen to these fucking words here that i'm using breadth ebert over here they were ambitious like they got
Starting point is 00:05:56 everything from this movie in plus they had sentinels danger room uh the beast obviously changing over. Dark Phoenix, potentially. I mean, obviously, you get teased or, I mean, kind of just get a glimpse of her, whatever you want to call it. That's a lot of shit that they were trying to bite off and chew. So tip of the cap to all that. It's also probably they're like, shit, if this one doesn't do well,
Starting point is 00:06:21 this might be the last one. So let's get in as much as we can and just shove it all in uh so yeah the the the budget going up i do remember x-men coming out being well as getting the old man i remember this when it was at the theaters being like all right that was good and it feels like we have something going here x2 it's like all right we're printing money now we're just gonna keep pumping these motherfuckers out and making straight cash homie do you know who said straight cash homie bob do you know this no it's an old randy moss line uh he got who is it did you ever see the uh clip uh this will be our sports segment of the week in the basement do you ever see the clipper he fake moon the crowd and joe buck goes that's a disgusting act so he got fined for that and they asked him they said they said, Hey, Randy, how do you pay that fine?
Starting point is 00:07:06 And they said, do you have a check or something? He goes, when you're rich, you don't write checks. And they go, well, how do you pay me? He goes, straight cash, homie. And it's just, that's been the name of my fantasy football team for 20 years running in my league with my buddies, the straight cash homie. Just one of the more hilarious, just fucking lines of all time. I haven't played fantasy in years, but i did my name was always star wars themed it
Starting point is 00:07:26 was robbie's rebels and i would have my logo of a football helmet that looked like a rebel pilot helmet that's a beautiful thing right there that is robbie to a fucking t i love you the goal was to make x2 the empire strikes back of the x-men they said that outright they said the characters are all split apart and then dissected revelations occur that are significant and then the romance comes to fruition and a lot of things happen so they kind of looked at that and said how do we make a darker sequel that has all of these things that separates our characters and everything they kind of nailed it singer though wanted to do dark phoenix right here he initially just thought let's follow up x-men with the dark phoenix saga and one of their writers zach penn convinced him not to do it he said let's
Starting point is 00:08:09 not go cosmic yet because once you go cosmic it's hard to put that toothpaste back in the tube so zach penn and david hater each wrote their own script they went off and wrote two separate scripts they came together combined the best aspects of them together. And then the other guy came over and wrote like the final official screenplay. Zach Penn also did, listen to this resume, Inspector Gadget, Last Action Hero, Electra, X-Men 3, the Edward Norton Incredible Hulk, did the story for the first Avengers movie. Then he also did Ready Player One and Free Guy after that. So he's got a pretty pretty damn good resume to his name yeah impressive uh wide wide array of topics and and kind of movies success and otherwise all right that's that's a that's a good fun it's a good fun fact right
Starting point is 00:08:56 there on that guy as well just have x2 and the avengers both on your resume and it's like oh shit and then you go and work with spielberg on ready player one great movie i have to say i think dark like dark phoenix i think they could have even waited even longer if they wanted to on it to really like again going cosmic but also just really playing up the jean gray slow descent or whatever into that and having because then once she's changed i think they could have waited even longer but that's you know another story for another time a couple other things i'd hear uh toad and saber tooth were supposed to return toad was gonna have a fight with nightcrawler yep he was gonna be like brainwashed and fight nightcrawler thank god they didn't do that because i think they were our lvps for the last movie right yeah apparently our boy shack wanted to be in this movie as well he was putting out a full core press little sports reference for you guys there that would have been Shaq is almost too
Starting point is 00:09:51 famous especially at that time to be like a character he'd almost have to just be Shaq and be like oh there's mutants that people don't know are mutants even though they seem and then Shaq just dunking over seven guys and he gets the mystique eyes on the court or something Exactly And the last fun fact I had here For this part of it in terms of like casting And like what could have been Apparently Neil Patrick Harris tried out for Nightcrawler That is bananas
Starting point is 00:10:15 Doogie Howser or I guess To a generation he's Doogie Howser Then to another generation he's Barney Stinson He's just NPH now to a bunch and then to some people he he gets he's just the guy that gets his throat slit in gone girl oh i've never seen gone girl spoilers that wait i i have seen gone girl uh is that uh is that the ben affleck i saw that i'm thinking of uh what's that that oh Gone Baby Gone
Starting point is 00:10:45 that's a really good movie you should add that to your list I like that movie I don't think he is then you're out no NPH no me as far as other castings like that Hugh Jackman's stunt double is apparently like a real
Starting point is 00:11:02 good looking guy go figure the guy that looks like Hugh Jackman's good double was apparently like a real good looking guy. Go figure. Fucking the guy that looks like Hugh Jackman's good looking. And the director, Brian Singer, was like, you could play fucking Gambit. So they threw Gambit in the movie and they cut him from the scene. So Gambit's name still appears on Stryker's computer at one point, but no Gambit in the movie. And as far as I know, no pictures or no deleted scenes, Photoshop's. I've seen nothing of james bamford the stunt double playing gambit gambit is one of those guys that does give you like the feels
Starting point is 00:11:31 and part of the cartoon character is a big part of that i feel like a lot of people they nailed the voice of him and just his overall vibe and you know in the comics he's great too uh but gambit in general that was kind of one of those are we going to to get them, not get them? And it was kind of, you were just going in. And I kind of remember the internet was around. There might have been some message boards, but stuff you'd see on TV, it'd be like whispers about this person
Starting point is 00:11:55 being in, that person being in the movies. But you didn't just have a thousand YouTubes giving you the Easter eggs and seeing everything. The fucking screen you talk about, the list of characters that they like, did you, do you have a list of any of the people that they got to mention there? So Gambit,
Starting point is 00:12:13 they have a Remy Lebeau. They have like, you know, Magneto's name on, they have all the different X-Men. There's, it says Maximoff and it has two, like Wanda and our boy Pietietro no um ralph boner
Starting point is 00:12:28 and they have like different uh people in the uh people in the x-men and stuff like that so you see their names kind of in the computer i think they have uh nathaniel x-6 too with uh mr sinister so there there's a fucking treasure trove a fun little like if you pause it or you just kind of look it up or whatever i'm sure there's probably been a ton of easter eggs about it or something like that people who have over 50 000 uh probably have a full widespread uh breakdown of it all but we don't we can't do it because we don't have any 50 000 yet tell you what though we're beating a lot of people to the punch with an x2 breakdown because i looked up an x2 breakdown just to get things you know in our in our mind in our system and i know we're 20 years late but we have
Starting point is 00:13:14 beat a lot of people to the punch all right there we go this is how we're going to conquer the algorithm we're going to we're going to do the 20 we're going to be able to the punch of the 20 plus year old movies all right yeah next week we're doing pirates of the caribbean curse of the black pearl we're going through 2003's best hits if this isn't the fucking barstool difference i don't know what it is right also we got a shout out uh another movie podcast here uh lights camera barstool they're kind of changing formats it sounds like excited to see them we had some good rewatches with them check those out great ones during the pandemic, they'll be on our graphic.
Starting point is 00:13:46 When we put out the commentaries, some of them, we uploaded as our own podcast feed thing. So empire strikes back Raiders of the lost arc. There's a couple like that. We did with them, Alex Salk and David Goodman from family guy. Really funny,
Starting point is 00:14:00 really funny commentaries, I think. And informative. Like I especially remember the Raiders of the Lost Ark one. David Goodman knew more about that movie than I know about anything, and he just rattled off fun facts the whole time that were awesome. This movie, though, X2, is mostly based on an arc from 1982 called X-Men God Loves, Man Kills,
Starting point is 00:14:21 written by Chris Claremont and illustrated by Brent Anderson. The similarities between the comic arc and the movie strikers, the main villain Magneto teams up with the X-Men. Xavier gets kidnapped and used with Cerebro to try to kill all mutants. The differences striker doesn't work for the military in the comics. He's a minister, which is interesting. He killed his firstborn son when he discovered he was a mutant.'t keep him around jason 143 i think it was um he's not responsible for wolverine in the comic
Starting point is 00:14:50 so that origin story with wolverine and him which i think is a pretty strong part of this movie was made up on the spot by these writers um and the comic is post dark phoenix so there's no jean gray in it she's already gone magneto also never like does the heel turn in the comic just escapes with the x-men at the end um the score here is by john ottman he does some really cool stuff with this score um he incorporates mozart in nightcrawler's theme with the german connection between the two of them and stuff like that um so let's get into the movie that's enough on the preamble oh i got i got one more thing here yeah only just one more uh this was ranked the number one comic book movie by wizard magazine
Starting point is 00:15:33 wow and wizards for real when i saw that dude i forgot about wizard magazine and i had to look it up because i was like shit would rob even know what wizard what Wizard is? And RIP in peace, it is gone, but it died in January 2011. So it was alive when Robbie was alive. And I'll tell you, man, for the people who don't know, Wizard was basically, it was a lot of comic stuff, yada, yada. And then you also could look up a few comic books. It would be like a pricing guide, which then as a sports fan, also had beckett which was another like i'm going through just all like teenage and pre-teen clem just buying comic books and baseball cards that were are worth not even the paper they're printed on these days but you live in the dream you're
Starting point is 00:16:15 fucking thinking you're gonna become rich and uh man just seeing wizard brought me all the way back dude it fucking that those two in game pro are like my three and there was another one to electronic game informer i had that i i loved which that might be more my generation did you have game informer no but that my brother i think had that he's a little younger so he that like came with your gamestop subscription if you did like a year membership or whatever you would get that i had one issue of wizard specifically that i think about sometimes that i want to go on ebay and actually like buy myself this copy again it's from 2009 when watchmen first came out and it had rorschach on the cover and i remember i thought this was
Starting point is 00:16:55 the coolest cover of wizard so i would like just draw it all the time colored pencils crayons fucking just trying to draw myself rorschach which i was 11 years old at the time way too young to understand what Watchmen was actually about or what it was satirical or satirizing. Is that a word? Satirizing? I don't even know what satire means. They're like, watch the satire site.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I'm like, I kind of get it, but I don't really get it. I don't get it either. You guys know what I'm trying to say. Watchmen is kind of like superheroes, but not really. Yeah, exactly. $9.99, Bob, plus $ eight dollars shipping it hurts when they get you with this yeah the shipping's almost as much as the magazine i'll wait for that to go 9.99 plus four dollars shipping all right we can make this all right we're gonna yeah don't you dare send any to these all to the office for an unboxing we're gonna get these my guy bob one let me ask you this when it comes to this movie do you you think the CGI intro sequence is better than the first one?
Starting point is 00:17:54 It's similar. It's very similar. Very similar. It's very similar. A little too similar, right? Where it's like Xavier talking over it and everything. You think you want a little bit better of a you know in between movies you think you upgraded the budget got a big bump you would hope you kind of get a
Starting point is 00:18:11 little better than that so that's all i'm gonna say again actually no you know what i don't know i was gonna say i don't want to get the cgi people upset at me you can't really say that cgi or the special effects sucked and that people come back everyone it's either they're mean or they don't say anything. They don't really defend it. Right. I've noticed that. This movie X two opens with nightcrawler in the white house. Shout out Alan coming great performances,
Starting point is 00:18:36 nightcrawler in this movie and this sequence in particular, I don't think it's one of the best sequences in this movie or in the X-Men franchise. I think this is one of the best and most memorable sequences in the history of comic book movies. I think it's so perfectly shot. The action is so cool. The weird, creepy looks of Nightcrawler that you're getting during it are so cool. The CGI holds up so well when he's flashing in and out.
Starting point is 00:19:01 You just see his tail in some scenes. I absolutely love this scene do you like it as much as i do so i do but i remember like being blown away by it the first time 20 years later you see like you see the you know puppet master moving his hands a little bit right yeah it's definitely aged a little bit as did there is one part where like every guy in the fucking white house is like a machine gun or at least and i'm like they just strapped i know the president's there but like everybody's fucking strapped to the teeth right now that one seemed a little extent that part seemed a little excessive i will say i think this opening scene and how strong it is is the first
Starting point is 00:19:39 step for this movie like raising the bar as far as comic book movies go i think x2 is kind of like the dark knight before the dark knight in that it was like oh whoa i don't know comic book movies could be taken this seriously and be this good the performances all around um amazing amazing performances even alan cummings introduction in the church like his first real introduction with storm and jean gray he plays it so well so scared so innocent you feel bad for him right away you want to be nightcrawler's friend remember as a kid nightcrawler instantly usurped uh cyclops is my favorite character like i needed the nightcrawler action figure right away his outfit his little striped pants and everything and as an adult
Starting point is 00:20:22 it's like wow he's a fucking catholic character who was born looking like the devil it's a fucking good character yeah and i think they said his the germans like he's saying to them like please leave i'm like the mark of the devil or the like i'm a freak who's like ashamed of himself yeah he is some there's some layers to this fucking guy yeah which i do appreciate uh i i had the Nightcrawler figure growing up. Just one of the coolest looking comic book characters ever. Just cool powers as well. In the video games
Starting point is 00:20:52 he was always fun to play with as well. I just love Nightcrawler. Man, there's just so many fucking X-Men. Feige's crew is going to have a hard time fucking this one up. There's just so many interesting characters. I'm just so excited for them to come in. you're talking about kid versus adult adult me hallie berry and funky johnson we're just rubbing this guy down they were doing nothing for him did you notice
Starting point is 00:21:16 that yeah yeah they didn't they didn't yeah they didn't do a ton of help there also i read alan cumming had to do 10 hours of makeup for just this scene because most of the movie he's you know you could see his whole chest and back in this scene um but 10 hours of makeup and alan coming has spoken out about not having a pleasant experience on set and it wasn't because of the makeup wasn't because of the 10 hours it's because of brian singer he wrote in his book this is a very interesting story that brian singer was allegedly on painkillers at the time that this movie was shooting he was starting to have outbursts on set he was starting to act a little funny to people so they stage an intervention in his trailer
Starting point is 00:21:54 this is the fucking cast of the intervention club alan cumming hallie berry patrick stewart hugh jackman james marsden and K. Jansen in full costume and makeup. So imagine walking into your trailer and there sit the X-Men ready to give you a drug intervention in real life. So he allegedly freaked out on him. He did not have a good reaction to their, you know, intervention. And apparently Halle Berry was really trying to like talk to him, nice to him and say, I've had friends go through addiction and I've had family go through whatever. And he freaks out.
Starting point is 00:22:29 He says, you're lucky to be working with me. And nobody in this trailer has even made a decent movie without me. So Halle Berry drops an all time quote on his ass. She says, and I quote from Alan Cummings book, I've heard enough. You can kiss my black ass.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Walked right out of the trailer. Storm just dropped that on him. Storm stormed out of the trailer. Kiss my black ass. Wow. Caused production to actually halt. Lawyers had to get on the phone with the studio for, I think, a couple of days. Production halted while they figured this out and got back on track. But yes, apparently a very tumultuous set what would be a more ridiculous thing to walk in on not if you
Starting point is 00:23:11 are the people who are actually involved but you robbie fox if you just walked in your house the x-men staging an intervention for you or the sopranos staging an intervention like christopher yeah uh the x-men because sopranos is at least like i'm in jersey like i guess it's true geographical sense if i walk in a night crawlers and full makeup in my kitchen like what the he's making fixing himself a coffee robbie you have to lay off the green teeth i can't even try to do the old wagner i like how they say that wagner they add the v instead of the W. Man, that's, the one thing like that was consistent with everything I was reading about this movie
Starting point is 00:23:50 too is that like Bryan Singer went to bat, wanted that guy coming so badly. And then he carries us with one of the greatest stories that probably one of Bryan Singer's lowest moments, which again, we are an anti-Bryan Singer podcast. Don't want to get that twisted there. But Sally, he was going through a rough time and a hell of a story though a hell of a story and again alan cummings like that that alan must like something must have been going on because they were just rubbing him down on that church thing they put it did you notice he had a solitary band-aid on his arm like he had gotten the flu shot and they're just like they didn't even fight him or kick his ass like he fell
Starting point is 00:24:24 and then they're just like rubbing him like i would go through 10 hours of makeup every single day if it means holly berry and pumpkin johnson would just rub my fucking upper torso for like 30 seconds what the fuck it would be great if they gave him like a cheesy x-men bandage too like the con you get at the doctor's office when you're dead that would have been amazing oh sienna just got a spider-man one funny you say that she came home she goes aj's would be so jealous i got spider-man i love that doctor's offices are still doing it oh it's the best dude and she was freaking out man i don't know about you i was a big scared of the shot guy i was scared not only the shot but you remember the little finger prick you would get yeah i hated the finger prick i think i hated
Starting point is 00:25:03 that more than the shot yeah me too i think i did as well is that you see bleed right away and like you it's just the visual of it is worse the shot i would just look away i would completely not look in that direction she's been talking she talked about it for two weeks straight before it actually happened it was the most absurd thing i've ever and then she was like yeah it didn't really hurt at all i was like yeah you idiot and you know what happened though everyone got mcdonald's that's the best thing mcdonald's is right from there the whole everyone got mcdonald's that's the best thing mcdonald's is right down the road from there the whole family gets mcdonald's when a kid goes to the doctor for a checkup did your doctor's office do pretzel sticks growing up that was the thing for my doctor like as soon as we walked out like those big
Starting point is 00:25:35 pretzel sticks he got a big one and i'd always put it in my mouth and pretend to be the penguin i'd go man i like that no we were more traditional it's like sticker maybe some lollipops that's about it but a pretzel that's that's next level thing in there i appreciate that i always liked the pretzel shout out dr kolsky my childhood doctor shout out dr kolsky um speaking of being a kid as a kid i always liked seeing the x-men as teachers and it's not like you know i'm not a teacher's pet i didn't love my teachers but just seeing them teach in the class it was this weird like comfort safety thing in the x-men of like these are good people like i could trust the x-men they take me on a field trip they're gonna make sure i don't get lost and i love the field trip scene to open things off like how do you change things up from just we're going back to the x-mansion and it's a high school vibe
Starting point is 00:26:24 again they're on a field trip this time you meet ice man or you i think you met him very briefly How do you change things up from just we're going back to the X mansion and it's a high school vibe again? They're on a field trip this time. You meet Iceman or you think you met him very briefly in the first one, but you actually get to like talk to him in this one. And they have that great scene with Iceman and Pyro in the cafeteria when Xavier freezes time and comes in. It's so awesome. It's such a cool, powerful way to introduce him. I love that power when he every time he uses it i love it i read on imdb a fact about that scene that i just refuse to believe is true it said like 150 extras were mimes in that scene and that's when they stayed so still i don't think that's there's no way there's 150 mimes on the planet and if there are you can't
Starting point is 00:27:03 have those 150 people together there should be some sort of law against those kind of creatures open to the mime community that may be listening anyone in the mind community but like come on guys that's fucking creepy it does feel like brian singer was like chomping at the bit to get to dark phoenix because the second you see gene gray cyclops walks up to he's like your mind has been real dark since the last movie it's like whoa you're going right there he's called it a movie it's like dude you're ruining the illusion he's like in the next one you might go dark phoenix it's like all right spoilers you're bringing up the comic books dude what the fuck where's the what is that kayfabe don't break the
Starting point is 00:27:40 kayfabe what are we doing what it's going uh there was a fun fact that i forgot to mention in x1 that i think when the whole magneto shit and like the the force blows up or whatever it's like magnetic force i think everyone reacts one way and gene is the only one who either doesn't react or reacts a different way and they're saying that might be when the dark venus kind of gets unlocked in her mind and that's a great follow up. And it's a great like, yes, they pointed out right away, but they kind of just expect you to have seen the first movie in this one. And I appreciate that. They don't spell a lot out for you in this. And I even appreciate that the movie is called X2.
Starting point is 00:28:18 That's the official title of the movie. Nowadays, it would absolutely be X-Men colon X2, the second one. Like, by the way a marvel production i've i saw a tweet the other day it said like there's no way warner brothers would allow a movie called the dark knight to be a batman movie like it would be batman colon the dark knight they always streaming on hbo max yeah september 23rd yeah i don't like that. But I'll tell you what I do like. Brian Cox as Striker. Listen, I'm just going to give everyone the, not the warning, just a heads up. You're going to think these are like Robbie's doing ads.
Starting point is 00:28:56 These seem like ads. There's no, the ads are done with us. We paid the bills. It's the end of the year. Everything's been wrapped up. So everything, guys, this was on the house right here. These are for the people that didn't the 47 plus thousand yes i did think in my mind as i set that up i was like that really sounded like i was about to go into like a meal
Starting point is 00:29:14 service or something like that but no i'm talking brian cox logan roy as striker he's such a fucking good villain in this movie such a good villain that you almost immediately feel sympathy for magneto someone that in the last one's horrible right but he comes in he has such a good performance he has that line where he goes don't lecture me about war and you just feel the logan roy coming out of his pores oh fuck off yeah you expect him to say that at some point he mentions the house that xavier built i loved that phrasing i was like oh shit that's a cool thing to call the x mansion and even when uh wolverine and striker come face to face in the x mansion a little later he's got such a sinister smile
Starting point is 00:29:57 and he just knows he is eating up real estate in wolverine's mind that scene by the way another fun fact i read on imdb that i refuse to believe apparently they used a real ice wall that weighed 3 500 pounds for that scene why that seems so unnecessary i'm i'm gonna be convinced until someone can prove it not true that nick and or kb came up with both of those fun facts because that is like right up their alley that's right up their fucking alley and like you can talk to me like oh yeah i was kind of obsessed with making up x2 fun facts for like a year and like junior high or something what now if you heard that from nick would you even blink by an eyelash i wouldn't i'd be like yep no yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:30:40 that's it's just so like why like you're telling me a set designer. There's like 64 sets or something on this movie. Beautiful, intricate sets. You're telling me they couldn't make a fucking wall that looked a little see-through, look a little bit like ice. I don't believe that. For a second. We're on to your bullshit, Nick. I also love Stryker's henchwoman. He's got uh yuriko she reminds me so much of a james bond henchman or
Starting point is 00:31:06 henchwoman in that way where it's just like maybe one line in the whole movie but she has a good look and that's all that really matters she gets a good fight scene at the end as well but just a shout out to yuriko who i think of the comic is death strike not death stroke dc had the rights to that one so they changed a letter and she's Deathstrike lady is it lady Deathstrike I thought there I don't know if there's a lady something like that maybe kind of think I have a thing for girls with silver eyes I learned this movie I think I think I have a thing for silver eyes I don't know if there's another actual living person with silver eyes but uh yeah she kind of did it for me I'm not gonna lie to you Bob I always dug the look of Cerebro in this one, kind of the randomness of it.
Starting point is 00:31:46 When Professor X is looking, it's all red, and he's seeing and hearing voices from every which way. It almost seems like he has to really focus to focus in on who he wants. I always thought that was well done. And Mystique, later, when she's able to steal the blueprints on Cerebro, they're just in a folder titled Cerebro. Who did that? No password locker? I guess there was. she kind of got through a password lock but like don't label the folder that label it like top secret something like that at least top secret definitely not cerebro like professor x's porn stash or something just so people like all right we're not gonna look at that or like weird shit like just do put something there that they're not gonna go to cerebro but i will say
Starting point is 00:32:30 though i am very happy we didn't get like the hacking scenes that you'd always get where they're just banging on the keyboard like the kermit the frog meme or whatever and it's like that was there it was some rough times in the early stages of the internet in the late 90s where it's just like oh god guys we got it like this is just not how it is in real life um i did like another thing that they just kind of expected you to remember from the first one was mystique as senator kelly in the beginning very quickly it's just like oh yeah senator kelly's in this movie and if you didn't see the first one you'd probably be confused or taken by surprise when you realize it's Mystique. But I also love Ian McKellen's delivery of the war has begun as his cell is getting gassed, which I realized on this watch. Like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:14 They put gas in his cell like a Holocaust victim. That's how they decided to get him down. Brutal. That's a very good scene, though, with him and Charles in it. And he's like, I'm sorry. Like, I gave everything up. Brutal. That's a very good scene though, with him and Charles in it. And he's like, I'm sorry. Like I gave everything up. He knows everything. And striker is now teaming up mortal enemies to the people that you never
Starting point is 00:33:31 thought would be on the same side. Once again, on the same side. And also I always thought the very simplest things about the big ambush sequence were awesome as a kid, like as a kid, the three coolest things in this movie were the fact that kids could stay up late in the school if they want like when wolverine comes down
Starting point is 00:33:49 he sees ice man he's like kids ever get sleep in this school and he's like apparently not like he's eating a bowl of cereal or whatever i was like that's so cool the kid who could change tv channels by blinking i was like i want to know everything about that kid like every time he blinks does that change the channel even if it's an involuntary blink, is he focusing in on the blinks? Can he get like pay-per-view channels? Is it like a black box where you don't have to order the pay-per-view? He could just get it in a little shuffled vision of it. I also thought chilling a Coke with one breath was maybe the coolest way to use a mutant power I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Like Wolverine gets the Coke and he's like, ah, it's a little warm it at the ice man he's like there you go the way he sets it up too he's like oh that pantry might have some that warm pantry that is definitely not cold at all and he needs to get it cold first of all i think we need to have kelly martin be like we need to talk to the guy who played that character who blinked to change the channel and then we just ask him every question we could think of and he's like he's like i don't know i was eight why the fuck are these people it'd be impossible to track this guy down probably i don't think he became like a big actor and he's probably i mean he's got to be he's gonna be 30 at least now right he's probably 10 in the movie
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Starting point is 00:35:40 One other thing I noticed during that scene with Iceman and Wolverine, it's the first kind of like, all right, we hit some gold with this first movie. We're going to start cashing the fuck in. Because if you notice, Iceman is eating ice cream and it says Ben and Jerry's on it. Or not Ben and Jerry's, Baskin Robbins. Okay. And it's like a Baskin Robbins pint.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And it's like a big one. And it's like no one gets that like it looks like you got it from the store and i'm sure you could get it packed at baskin robbins it's just it was it's like you if you had it you would put it into a bowl and you need it out of the bowl but that's just them trying to cash them checks and wolverine you know what he's drinking bob coke right dr pepper he's always doctor listen i love the doctor d DP one of my favorite drinks in the world It's so it's gratuitous Like knowing what we know about
Starting point is 00:36:30 Comic movies when the guy just happens to be driving The Audi and the fucking logo hits you In the forehead as he's driving onto the screen I'm like alright They now know This one's gonna bring some money back to us Other than just the box office receipts Yeah and the ambush scene Itself is another all timer for I don't know. This one's going to bring some money back to us other than just the box office receipts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And the ambush scene itself is another all-timer for comic book movies in my eyes. I think it's shot perfectly. The chaoticness, the franticness, the fact that there's kids in the house and all of the adults are mostly just focused on making sure the kids are safe. I love the line between Wolverine and Rogue where he's like, go, I'll be fine. She's like, but we won't. It's like the X-Men's a family. That's how a little sister would respond to her big brother there was a line in the first movie where magneto says if they come in or they you know what happens when they come in at night into your you know school charles what are you going to do then and sure enough those
Starting point is 00:37:19 fucking villainous humans did the goddamn thing and this scene in the original cut was actually a bit more violent when it comes to logan killing strikers troops it earned the movie a rated r rating and they had to cut scenes to secure a pg-13 f the snyder cut i'm more interested in the rated r cut of x2 give me the logan cutting motherfuckers the ribbons cut right yeah the blood and gore cut or something like that. Did you see the Logan video game just had some leaks or the Wolverine video game from Insomniac? People were complaining that there's like no blood and guts yet. It's literally like pre-alpha footage.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Like it's the most simple of footage ever. It's like they haven't added the blood and guts, guys. People are so bloodthirsty when it comes to wolverine that they're like where is it i forget that we have that wolverine berserker mode i'm hoping deadpool 3 is already going to have all that that rated r rating give it to us let let hugh get his one last you know full wolverine aggression out on the big screen that's what i'm hoping for deadpool 3 you say that and obviously deadpool has to have a rated r rating has to but i'm thinking in my mind if it's the number one movie that sets up secret wars there's gonna be a lot of confused kids when it comes to secret wars isn't there like their parents if they don't take them to
Starting point is 00:38:38 see deadpool 3 the fucking movie where they're probably gonna say dick or maybe even show a dick like i don't think they're gonna take kids to see that but secret wars is gonna be family friendly again it'll be pretty important yeah that's actually a great point don't fuck this up marvel like you just have to just you guys have fucked up this phase so much with your pg shows that were not very good and the movies that kind of flopped or get flopped just gonna have to just roll with the punches here mickey mouse i'm sorry i don't know what to tell you about um magneto breaking out of prison what a satisfying scene what an awesome like i can't believe we're rooting for the bad guy here but i'm rooting so hard for the bad guy here when
Starting point is 00:39:17 he does the metal coming out of the guy and don't trust a woman especially if she you think she's interested in you he kind of roast the guy on the way out then he turns the thing into a little platform for him to go on totally like a comic book scene and it felt like they wrote this scene to be like we don't have a scene for ian mckellen to like really show that he's one of the best actors ever in this movie so let's write one from the show that shows here he kind of he kind of gets trumped by Stryker in this. I feel like Stryker gives maybe the best performance in the movie. Yeah, I think that's fair, but Magneto has his moments.
Starting point is 00:39:52 They gotta make Magneto Magneto. I sound like Magneto. When Magneto's Magneto, he's Magneto. He's really special. That guy. But the whole... I love that whole setup of it all where she puts the pill in there, knocks him out, injects him with the metal and honestly like that you can't even blame that dude if a girl like that looks like rebecca romaine
Starting point is 00:40:11 is just coming on you at a dive bar just you know throws you into the bathroom it's like all right whatever you want to do you want inject with whatever you want girl and just like an absolutely vicious way to die death by metal flakes basically bursting through your skin. And that's one of the great Magneto moments. I have to say, though, it was an awesome prison break. It's one of my favorite scenes in all the X-Men movies. However, he has his arms crossed, and it looks cool in the comic books. It looks very awkward when it's an old man doing it.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It looks almost like you're just dragging him across the screen with a cursor. books i mean it looks very awkward when it's like an old man doing it and he had the ball it looks almost like you're like just dragging him across the screen like with a cursor you know like and and it's like you put too much starch in his shirt or something because it's like like if he had if he had maybe the cloak on and whatever he would have looked better but just the way it was i was like that just looks awkward and the ball again the ball spinning i'm sure it's like an atom thing and then it's the protons the neutrons the electrons whatever it may be but it just seemed goofy look oh i like the ball a little weird i like it um i like the way they shot the drugging scene too like the under the table shot where they showed glass and you see the pills in
Starting point is 00:41:18 it that was really clever um and another classic scene is the police standoff at Bobby's house, Iceman's house. Police standoff outside, Wolverine getting shot in the head and then, you know, spitting the bullet out. Pyro going crazy, being like, you know, those big bad mutants. Well, I'm the worst of all. I thought Pyro was such a badass as a little kid. I was like, what an awesome superhero vigilante type role. And a couple stuntmen apparently actually almost died during the filming of this scene. Like two stuntmen came very close to death because there was so much pyrotechnics and explosions going on.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Thank God that they didn't. Also, Bobby's coming out scene where he kind of comes out as a mutant to his parents and stuff was worked on by Ian McKellen. He stepped in and said, let's make this like a gay coming out scene. And they were like, perfect. That's kind of what we're going for here and he helped them out with that how do you feel about Bobby Iceman I like him in this movie I always did oh yeah I always like I always liked uh I was like Iceman I like the character Iceman and I like I don't know the actor just I thought it was like that's exactly how I figured he would look on the screen he looks so much younger now than when I remember watching him the first time it's probably because i was like around his age and now i'm old but it
Starting point is 00:42:28 was one of those things that always kind of threw me off but i always liked that actor a lot i was always a big fan of him it is for weird for me watching this like i watched it for the first time when i was five and i looked up to everyone in the movie like everyone was older than me everyone was like cooler than me i was like these guys are awesome now i would assume i'm older than me. Everyone was like cooler than me. I was like, these guys are awesome. Now I would assume I'm older than a Bobby Iceman was in the movie. I'm 25 now. I don't think he was 25 in this movie. It's like watching the little league world series a little bit for me older than these kids.
Starting point is 00:42:56 That's fucked up. I used to watch them when I was little. It's weird. Only gets worse, Bob. I mean, I know you're not, you don't watch as many games as I do,
Starting point is 00:43:03 but once you start, you know, you're as old, you're older than like the star player or the rookies and you're older than this and once you're older than the guys who are retiring you're just like it's the absolute fits so this you'll you'll get that in the comic book movies version of it all but he's a cool like again the blowing on the the dr pepper that's just cool and also like like let's be honest if you're like in high school or whatever year they're in and you're dating you know and a pack with a smoke it's like there's a chance she could kill me but i'm just gonna take that chance i need to feel skin right
Starting point is 00:43:37 now i don't really care anyone's taking that chance absolutely especially when she puts the gloves on it's like oh well now i'm head over heels it's like yeah um the x jet also gets a little more shine in this one you see it during the daylight you get a full action sequence with it where storm is touching down tornadoes i hope they're not touching down though i was thinking that as i was watching this it was like she just generated like 30 tornadoes in fucking b? They were leaving Boston? Did they touch down? That was crazy. Oh, that would be hilarious. It's like the most catastrophic weather pattern in
Starting point is 00:44:12 the history of the world just happened and no one knows why. The rest of the X-Men just turned to storm like... It was like, yeah, like the fucking all of Boston looks like it does in the last of us. It's just like, yeah, like I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Apparently there were rewrites on this movie specifically to give Halle Berry more scenes because she like blew up between this because of Monsters Ball, I believe was the name of the movie. This was one where I thought this could have been a rewritten scene because it was just you know all on the x jet very tiny very small shoot uh nightcrawler save on rogue is so cool when she falls out of the plane and he like warps back gets her brings her back on the plane and magneto safe when he like brings the ship down there like that's not me it's almost the ship getting pulled into the death star like we can't control it now that's no moon it's fucking magneto two things about uh monsters ball one halliburton won the oscar for it she had sex in it it was a sex scene and it stopped the world for you know i've never before today i don't know if i've ever even heard of it assuming a good movie if she won the oscar
Starting point is 00:45:22 i yeah it's with billy bob Thorne I've never watched the movie I might have watched a scene from the movie I won't discuss which scene, but I have seen it before I think it's like A story about an abusive relationship It's not, you don't want to be watching that I have much more fun watching the X-Men than that But there is a scene or so
Starting point is 00:45:40 That might be a little more fun So that is, I think, a reason why It's like, oh, her role is going to grow which we see happen with different characters in the other x-men movies like we're gonna put mystique in every scene now because jennifer lawrence which i'll tell you guys i'm gonna be complaining about that i imagine a whole lot because i remember losing my mind if you'd be like shut the fuck up yeah and also in every movie she just gets less and less prosthetics and makeup by the end of the movie she just looks like a smurf or something it's like
Starting point is 00:46:08 this is not mystique she's just jennifer lauren she's just walking around herself with like blue clothes on she's like powder blue yeah yeah just it's no good they're they're well some of them were way too calm as that jet was crash landing they were just like oh oh shit maybe i guess yeah it's blood or something yeah they're just like calm cool collect they're like hey we're mutants the world ain't so good for us as it is if we go down we go down they're dark about it um what does magneto say to ice uh to pyro he's like he's like what's your real name yeah i'm talking to him in that scene yeah what's what's your what's your real name or uh and then
Starting point is 00:46:45 how they're like they're kind of just being dicks to him and he's like you know they're ants compared to you or something oh yeah he said he says like you're he's like i he tells him he's almost like being self-deprecating and he's like i can only move the fire i can't like create fire and he just looks at him and he's like you are a god god amongst ants. Yes, that's. And he's like, whoa, that's a badass line. You were talking about Halle Berry and Billy Bob Thornton getting a little steamy. Logan and Jean Grey get a little steamy in this movie. They expand upon that love triangle dynamic. And unfortunately, my rewatch of X2 just made me realize Cyclops is a cuck.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He is a pansy, as your wife called him. He is kind of just a bitch like he was always my favorite i always defended him i had the action figures i remember that you could take the visor off his visor in this movie looks badass too it's a great cyclops design but he does nothing in this movie he just gets kidnapped that's he fucking brings his old grandpa professor x to the prison and gets them both kidnapped it's like bobby bacala and uncle june in there that's good that's a good comparison right there i i my pansy meter i was like it's he's still himself like it's like we said three and a half out of five for the last one yeah to the balls he's almost like a two out of five because he's not on screen enough but he's still
Starting point is 00:47:59 like the same old barely on screen in this movie doesn't do anything he gets his car stolen even the last movie gets a motorcycle stolen this one he gets his car stolen you know who ate cyclops with anyone his insurance agent's like dude are you fucking serious you got the fucking car stolen now it's like it turns out your co-worker just stole the motorcycle after all that he's he it's just it was a lot less cyclops than i remember and then i'm like am i being too tough on him because he's like Barely on screen but he's just again He's just constantly catching L's and you're like Well that's not what the leader of the X-Men
Starting point is 00:48:30 Should be doing no just L After L after L now You get to like Stryker's Base and whatnot Stryker's lair It's actually the largest set In North America at the time It was built in an old Sears Warehouse and the cast used bikes to get
Starting point is 00:48:46 around and go to the bathroom. Like if they had to go to the bathroom, they hopped on a fucking bicycle and they peddled their ass down there. Kind of crazy. Also, they filmed a lot of this in Alberta, Canada, where they expected it to be covered in snow.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And it was like a weird season where it did not get covered in snow. So they had to just bring in a bunch of fake snow that could have been, you know, I guess we're going to have to do fake snow instead of sentinels in this movie the fake snow just it brought up uh i blogged about it i found out the curse's vacation house is in california not chicago and it broke my goddamn heart bob let me ask you something in that christmas spirit what breaks your heart more the fact fact that that's in California and not Chicago or the fact that the interior of the home alone house was like built in a gymnasium. I can live with the interior of the home alone house. I like seeing the interior and the exterior made me feel poor. The fact that the interior was fake.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I'm like, okay, that makes me feel a lot better. It still is like offensive to me but there's some the gym that it was filmed in was in chicago as well i feel like if you're a christmas movie in a phone somewhere that's cold you have to earn the right to fucking have that you and these people in california bomb me 70 degrees every day of the goddamn week so you're not a christmas vacation guy i know we blamed your brother for it don't watch it don't watch it it was one of my favorite movies until like three nights ago when i was like looking at my phone i'm like where is this maybe i'll visit next time out of chicago just fucking california and then someone tweeted me it was like
Starting point is 00:50:13 oh no they bulldozed everything so it's not even fucking a lot i'm like how do you not take the fucking national lampoon's house bring it to a random part of chicago charge ten dollars twenty thirty dollars for idiots like me to go take a picture throw uncle eddie's fucking rv in the driveway the fucking the lights a million lights boom gold mine absolute gold mine and they bulldozed it morons morons absolute morons um i think that's my thoughts about the fake show, Bob. I think the second half of this movie loses a little steam. Just a little bit. I think the setup and the first hour of the movie,
Starting point is 00:50:56 when you get to that big standoff with the cops in Boston, is the strongest part. A little too much to that little girl in the second half of the movie. I could have done with a little less of her talking to Professor X. Do you agree with that? that yeah we get the point we understand the illusion that he's creating with his mind and stuff like that yeah this gets kind of weird again singer weirdo as well so you're re-watching it with it it's like just don't like it not a big thing no the the different colored eyes though the first minute i ever saw max scherzer on my team i'm like yep i knew you were going right there with that um that being said also weaponizing professor x is a fucking
Starting point is 00:51:33 incredible plan too like let's weaponize oh yeah he's not magneto but it's still metal um that being said about the second half of this movie losing a little bit of steam the wolverine flashbacks are still really good when you see like the bloody flashbacks he got fucking blood all over he looks like a savage he's coming out with the adamantium for the first time really cool also when they filmed that naked flashback scene where he's like running through the hallways naked apparently hugh jackman turned around on the first shot of that it was just like a shot of his butt or something and all the girls on set, along with James Marsden's mom, had like dollar bills and they were hooting and hollering like he was a stripper.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Probably couldn't do that in 2023, but it's a very wholesome story from 2003. Is Hugh Jackman, is he British or is he Australian? He is Australian. He'd be fine with with it now he'd always be fine with it australian oh yeah it's kind of like the tommy devito stuff it's like oh and us italians are just laughing it off it's fine it's cheeky behavior you know yes it's cheeky and no pun intended with the cheeks out however you could get in big trouble if you did it to the wrong star at the wrong movie i am 100 or if you gender swapped and the wrong star at the wrong movie. I am 100%. Or if you gender swapped and like all the guys on set were like standing out there for Monster Ball or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah, that could be problematic for sure. I also love in this whole like things start to get chaotic. Mystique comes in and she takes the shape of Stryker for a second. And I love this you get a little bit of it in x1 but now knowing brian cox and logan roy and kind of the personality he is when he's like it could be anyone you know shut down we've got a morphine on the loose he puts a little sass in his walk and he puts a little sass in his like slap and just seeing brian cox knowing in his mind it's like all right be fucking mystique in this scene he's like hysterical that was great yep and the fact that brian cox is the one doing
Starting point is 00:53:33 it not rebecca romaine obviously yes it's his human so fucking funny and again there's like 10 different times this movie where he's like ah fuck off in my mind i'm just waiting for him to say it it's just like, I don't know. Like I knew he was a striker. I just like, I didn't even connect it to it. Then I'll watch him. Oh fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:51 We got fucking Brian. And the rated R cut. He's allowed to say all that. Yeah. Exactly. If someone could somehow just add the fuck offs, that would be a great video. AI could definitely do it now. You know, you could find the right spots.
Starting point is 00:54:02 You could do an AI mouth thing. So it looks like he's actually saying it.'m sure that could work did you see the video i blogged the other day back to the future for someone made a trailer a family trailer yes oh bob bob wait till i tell you about this one not only so someone made up a fake back to the future 4 trailer using ai usually basically scenes from like people we're in. So like Michael J. Fox, everyone's older now, right? Yeah. And the kid, the newest McFly,
Starting point is 00:54:31 Michael J. Fox's kid, I suppose. Chris Pratt. No. Pedro Pascal? Close. It's in the MCU. It's not someone who's been constantly bombarded with Tom Holland. Tom Holland? Tom Holland.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And I'm telling you, dude, I'm like, shit, I see some Michael J. Fox in there. And it kind of blew me away. So check it out. It's a really well-familied trailer. So if they could do that, we could definitely get a fuck-off William Stryker cut. I think that's fair. Tom Holland's almost the anti-Pedro Pascal Chris Pratt in that, like like he's so good and everyone loves him, but he's not casting everything. He's casting a lot of shitty stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:10 He's got a bad, bad agent. I know he's an uncharted people like that. I didn't see that. I'm sure I would like that because I think it kind of has Indiana Jones type vibes and stuff. He's in that movie Cherry that got bad reviews. He was in that Apple TV series that got such bad reviews. He put out like a sad statement about it this year. Like i know nobody likes this but i worked really hard on it and thanks for the people that do like it it broke my heart for a multi-millionaire yeah i feel like he's his
Starting point is 00:55:35 like agents probably dude we have to be very careful because if you like if you become toxic with so many bad films you're gonna lose and die like her people are gonna make her break up i can't do that guys this is the best thing going in my life right although did you see chalamet's statement about tom holland this week no someone someone said like oh have you met tom holland with zendaya whatever he's like yeah tom holland is like a fox he's like he's an absolute stunner like he's an absolute ladies the way he was talking about it made it sound like chalamet was upset that zendaya wouldn't cheat on tom holland he's like this fucking guy he's really he blocked down his girlfriend he's charming as fuck too like we've there i know that we've like covered we've blocked
Starting point is 00:56:14 some of like his quotes that he's had in interviews and he had something with his family and the brothers i forgot what exactly it was well his dad is a stand-up comedian and his dad has that stand-up joke about he's like i know you're not supposed to have a favorite child but i feel like that gets thrown out the window when one of your children is spider-man yeah so he obviously has the dad's gene too so he has a little bit of that funny side of him so uh yeah shout out tom holland shout out tom holland always welcome in the basement i'm yeah exactly i'm sure he like has no interest in getting involved in another like franchise and yeah i'm telling you i don't want to see it back to the future four because i didn't really love back to the future three however
Starting point is 00:56:54 this trailer you're kind of like wouldn't hate it though i wouldn't hate it it's just tough with michael j fox obviously in his current state they'd have to do some work there um back to x2 when rogue comes in with the jet she is i wrote flying it like we were flying the millennium falcon like you don't know what you're doing you're just hoping you don't crash it eventually you kind of crash land but everything's okay jean gray the big sacrificing herself moment in the end which obviously will lead into the next movie in the dark pho Phoenix saga was apparently a big secret on set. So the novelization and the comic version of the movie had alternate endings because they came out before the movie and Fomke Johnson herself or Jansen
Starting point is 00:57:33 Johnson. I don't know how you say that. She didn't even know until halfway through filming when Brian Singer told her. So that's kind of used. Do you think maybe a gut punch, but if it's at the end of the movie, it's not like,
Starting point is 00:57:44 Hey, we're killing you off in the first scene screen style. It's like, you make it at the end of the movie it's not like hey we're killing you off in the first scene screen style it's like you make it to the end of the movie but well he probably told her you'll come back to because we're setting up obviously the dark phoenix saga so probably wasn't a gut punch she was probably okay with it this is probably the best thing that could happen to your character because like yeah it can be forgettable at some points you know yeah in the shows comics whatever and she doesn't have a ton to do in this movie so to be able to make the big sacrifice is like oh that's what jean gray gets to do in x2 jean gray
Starting point is 00:58:09 fucking rules when all thing i think jean gray is awesome but it's like there are times where she's kind of just like background noise like you're not even the biggest the best psychic we have right now you know or you're not a completely untapped rear and untapped resource is what you are so yeah uh everything worked out just fine but that whole scene and um at the end she's given the speech xavier gave in the first one like i don't know i loved it all and fucking so there's one part of it though i just had to laugh and it's a very like heavy scene but fucking wolverine's like she's gone and i was like don't you say that and he just keeps saying she's gone over and over it's like dude that's kind of like if wolverine wanted to be cruel he could have been
Starting point is 00:58:51 doing that on purpose i know he wasn't but i just started laughing and i'm like dude you're just you just keep saying it don't say list oh you know what i'm making i'm i have to actually pick up the ingredients you know i'm gonna make it a few days snickers pie because bye you gotta make the video as you're doing it right on the top yeah i love rico that guy's the best this scene though as a kid watching this five years old in the movie theater this was heavy for me watching someone die watching cyclops be that sad i was like oh fuck this is like a this ain't a movie that i'm used to this ain't the adam west batman and like you said gene gray gives the same speech at the end of this movie that xavier
Starting point is 00:59:39 gave at the beginning of the first one like poetry it rhymes and i love that uh scene in the president's oval office where the x-men come and visit him and stop time in the middle of his fucking speech and you get the storm and the darkness and everything and then in a flash it's done like charles gives him that hey we're here to stay so why don't you fucking get used to it we're helping things out here and then boom he's right back into the press conference they're like mr president what's going it's like the mitch mcconnell oh is that what happened to mitch mcconnell did the x-men visit him in that moment wow wow i just realized that i hope i hope to god that one person and the billions of tweets that were sent that day referenced the-men room visited like an x2 and they visited
Starting point is 01:00:26 the president i mean speaking of cutting things together i'm sure you could cut that scene together with the clip of mitch mcconnell freezing if someone can do that holy shit that would be funny oh that that so again i love those powers and then like i love the scene so it's like they take out the electricity by with the storm and all that kind of stuff so obviously the people at home would would not be frozen as well. And just the way like they're like, this guy Stryker was a dick. Here's all the stuff we have on him. And it's like, all right, we're going to get cooking here for X3, which I'm going to say X3 is not going to have the same love in people's hearts that X2 had going into it for what I remember.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It's not that being said i stand by x3 being very overhated and almost underrated at this point i think it's it's very watchable people act like it's a horrendous movie it's definitely not there's moments of it where you're like oh my god why would they make that choice or that choice but overall overall, I think it's pretty good. And they do some Charles de-aging in X3 that in, I think it was 2006 or something that came out. Unbelievable CGI for the time. Like it looks very, very good, which also we were talking about Charles, just looking at Patrick Stewart 20 years ago, he looks younger.
Starting point is 01:01:39 So maybe our eyes are deceiving us a little bit there, but I think X3 is better than people give it credit for. Not X2. X2 is amazing. It's the crown jewel of the X-Men franchise in my eyes. deceiving us a little bit there but i think x3 is better than people give it credit for not x2 x2 is amazing it's the crown jewel of the x-men franchise in my eyes is it the perfect movie no it's not the perfect movie there's scenes in it that i don't love but i think for the time it's about as close as anyone came to the perfect comic book movie yeah i think yeah and i think it helps set up a lot of the other stuff we got in the future and yeah and you know and even in the you know when you go forward into you eventually reboot
Starting point is 01:02:11 x-men with like first class and stuff but then they bring it back with days of future past and you have both crews meet each other like that movie feels so much bigger because of how good these movies were and i think x3 is a part of that i think if x3 was a total across the board colossal failure like say x-men apocalypse i don't think people are you know really wanting those characters back as much as they did i think they had a i think they had hit doubles and you know at least singles they couldn't have strikeouts pop outs all that kind of stuff strikeouts oh so it's like i think you know they could have tried to hit a home run with these but like i think they did perfectly fine because it's like the whole fucking franchise was based on was based on these you know first one and then obviously the second one hitting um and then in a in a crazy way so yeah three does get a lot of
Starting point is 01:03:04 hate three i remember being like, I remember saying I went to one of my first jobs back in the day and after college. And I remember like, oh, I like, I like, I'm a big X-ray fan. Like I had fun. And so I was like, oh, I got like the, it was my first ever experience in the real world
Starting point is 01:03:18 with like a real life comic book guy who was like worst movie ever. And I was like, all right. So, you know, know again the internet wasn't humming like it was now with social media and stuff so you couldn't just get a million of those the day of a release so i was like oh i guess i was wrong i didn't like that movie at all it was terrible so it's like yeah just that kind of nonsensical uh banter so i'll be very interested whenever we do watch x real should be in the future i'll be very interested to see how it
Starting point is 01:03:42 holds up now because this one i i really liked in the movie theater it's like it's like most things are like 20 something years and whatever you're you're gonna have like some things you're like oh that's a little off but unless you're a legitimate like the empire strikes back of the star wars movies not everything holds up just as well so i'll be interested to see how we feel about um like will we rank this who's your mvp of the movie good uh striker yep so i'd striker as well um just like again you said it perfectly the fact he makes like magneto seem like he's not such a bad guy you know you feel bad for magneto immediately when he like hits the acid on the back of his neck and magneto's like drugged you're like oh he's just a poor old man yeah exactly and like magneto and i'm you know we don't go deep into striker's
Starting point is 01:04:35 backstory other than you know he's a mutant son and whatever else like magneto was you know went through the most horrific parts of that era as a kid growing up and saw the worst in humanity uh i don't think striker went through anything like that so the fact he is such a is something and again brian cox plays the out of that role and the voice and everything about it and uh my the line i love that he gives wilbur you're an animal that you were an animal then you're an animal now i just gave you claws what a fucking lie and the other thing is he gets the end of the movie is just getting molly left and right he's getting his ass kicked he thinks he escapes they tie him up to the plane as the fucking waves are coming and i'm just like this
Starting point is 01:05:16 guy is just getting he just got dragged at the end i loved it also the scene between uh yuriko or yurika his his uh his henchwoman and wolverine good fight scene when she's got the claws too that was a good action scene better than maybe any fight scene in the first one i think the choreography got better in x2 yes i also will say like again 20 year difference like fight scenes i didn't like love the fight i feel like fight scenes have gotten bad much better way better oh way better times yeah so just seeing that what they were back then today i'd be interested if i watched the old spider-man again how they would all look all the fights similar i think similar to these yeah yeah um excuse me i guess if i didn't go striker for mvp i wouldn't go magneto I would go Sir Ian McKellen because the prison scenes, man,
Starting point is 01:06:08 like his eyes and just his look and demeanor, it's like that's just a tired old man. But then even like the fuck these guys, we're going to just, you know, we're going to strike back. There's a war coming, this and that. And then even the, I don't know, I'm a sucker for when the good guys team up with the villains and whatever. So I really like that. I wish they had for when the good guys team up with the villains and whatever. So I really liked that.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I wish they had kept it where he did the, he did kind of the face turn. Cause there is a Magneto face turn all the time in the comics, I feel, but to make him like, just kind of double down on that. I know it's different in the movies. You only have one every few years,
Starting point is 01:06:37 but I thought that was cool. Is he, he's kind of face turned by the end of the cartoon, right? I don't even remember to be honest. I want to say he turns face in like the finale or something. So I think there's a chance X-Men 97 will start with like him, not as a villain.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I'm going to have to catch up on that because again, in my mind, it comes out January 4th, which I'm still not sure it is, but yeah, confirmed by Disney not to take place. I got a press release from them recently. It says like on air, like says, like, no date announced.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh, goddammit. So, unfortunately, yeah, won't be back. But you know what? We'll be back on January 4th, maybe 5th. It's my mom's basement. So people will have that at least. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:07:18 It depends how many subscribers. True, yeah. We've got to get subscribers, man. Fast food review for this one? Oh, LVP. let me hear the lbp first the lvp of this one it's hard because i don't think there are a lot of lvps in this one but i'm gonna say it's probably my guy cyclops for his lack of appearance necessarily just the writers really put the yeah he is kind of like this movie made me realize he's a bitch
Starting point is 01:07:46 and a cuck so this one was tough for me too like i'm looking at all the characters like i really don't know who the lvp was and it kind of this it reminds me of uh the mom from below who i fucking hated and she rats on her son and i get and i understand why he does it because he's a freaked out little kid but bobby's brother calling the cops so i'm gonna crazy yeah it's like that's a good call but it's like fuck him every time i see him i get angry instantly so lvp bobby's brother hey how about the cop that shoots wolverine and also tells him to drop the knives yeah that guy yeah that guy it's a hard old cop there's yeah hard oh god oh my god yeah that cop better have body cam footage what's yeah exactly what's there there's a lot of departed where it's like he are you a cop because you want
Starting point is 01:08:36 to help people or because you wanted to hold a gun or something like that's the guy who just wanted the gun that guy yes um so then the fast food review interesting because this movie for me it's a classic that i go back to time and time again i enjoy it every time so honestly i'm gonna go with uh wendy's nuggets just wendy's plain wendy's nuggets nothing crazy but it is exactly what i want when i'm looking back at the nuggets throughoutgets throughout the years, I'm like, Wendy's, that's the one that I want. When I look back at the X-Men movies throughout the year, I feel the same way about X2. So you're looking at the Wendy's menu, or in this case, the X-Men movies. And there's wide array stuff that has some good moments, bad moments, whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And the Nuggets are the choice. The Nuggets are the fastball. And I have the 10-piece, and I look at the 10-piece, and I go Xavier. I go Wolverine. I go Magneto. I go Striker go striker and for every nugget it's a character okay all right i'm i can live with that i can definitely live with that so i i did something completely different i said we were going to do christmas gifts because it's the holiday season oh i forgot we were going to do that so i can give you mine and then I can give you a fast food thing just because I'm a professional and I can do it on the fly. Nice.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It's these are things I don't think you even know what they are. I know KFC mentioned them. I think he did the Christmas gift draft and I don't know if he drafted them or they were like, I don't know. There's a thing called moon boots. Do you know what moon boots are? They are. They the big boots where it's almost like uh not springs but it's like you step in them i yeah i do you can jump high with them hypothetically speaking
Starting point is 01:10:11 hypothetically yeah they did not work did they they didn't really work but they were the coolest fucking things when you got them and you loved them and you look back and you're like i saw a picture of maxi the other day randomly. And I was like, oh, man, I love that. And you know what? Like compared to a lot of the stuff now, probably wouldn't fly, right? But, man, we had some fucking fun with those back in the 2000s. It's kind of like X2.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Like I like X2. I had fun watching it. It was great seeing it all. I also have to admit like if I had to watch the Guardians or I had to watch a lot of watch a lot of other stuff it trumps it but man we had some fun with those moon boots we had some fun with x2 it's i mean it's almost i'm almost like the x2 is such a wide cast but i guess it's like the same cast from x1 so it's like it's cheating that way but yeah i'd say i'd say that and i'd say if i had to do a fast food, I mean, you kind of got in my head with the Wendy's nuggets.
Starting point is 01:11:13 It's like, it's almost to me like the Taco Bell menu. If I'm just going like with a, I'll go with like the, what is it? The, just the regular taco. Just like a regular, just crunchy taco. It's like, if i need someone if i gotta get like out of the original three movies and i need something that's going to be the best of the three i'm just going to go with the regard it's like it's old it's old uh reliable that's kind of how this didn't yeah yeah there's a million on the taco bun menu but i'm always up to be honest with you i'll get the doritos locos taco if i can well let's just say we're at a
Starting point is 01:11:43 simpler time back when you know before the doritos taco was invented back in 2003 yeah 2003 yeah this motherfucker kept the lights on in the taco bell restaurant that's all i know that's right that's right so there you have it that was x2 we've now done x-men and x2 x3 will be next i don't know if we'll do x3 next as the first show of next year we'll probably have a lot of news to talk about i would assume over the next two weeks, we have to go down with Kang still and all that shit. Hopefully we don't know what's going on with Kang. We don't know what's going on with the DCU because the DCEU is officially
Starting point is 01:12:15 ended. Aquaman two is out. So there you go. I can't believe it's out. I didn't hear much about it, but I liked the first one. The second one, apparently not great.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And I read that Aquaman gets his mouth peed in three times in the movie which is yeah that's what i read about it so uh it'll be an interesting watch i'm sure i hope everyone has a good christmas or whatever holiday you're celebrating kwanzaa hanukkah new year's all of that stuff we will be back the week after new year. So either Thursday, the fourth or Friday, the fifth, I'll keep everyone updated on social media. Clem.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Thanks for another great year in the basement. Happy new year. Merry Christmas and all happy holidays to everyone to all. Good night.

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