My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 328 - CODY'S OUT, THE ROCK IS IN (FROM THE TOP ROPE WITH JARED CARRABIS)

Episode Date: February 3, 2024

Robbie and Carrabis get back down in the Basement for the second time this week - this time to discuss The Rock replacing Cody Rhodes in the main event of WrestleMania. #TheRock #CodyRhodes #Wrestle...Mania ****************************************  My Mom's Basement links: https://linktr.ee/MMBpodYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Alright, welcome back to My Mom's Basement, but once again, another emergency From the Top Rope edition of My Mom's Basement, just days after we did the last one. It's funny, we don't do these for years sometimes, and then we do two in one week but it felt necessary we only have one news item to talk about really but it kind of dated the last show we did immediately on smackdown last night so karabas welcome back to the basement we're going to talk wrestling again and shit has changed in the last two days the red sox just brought back theo epstein and i did an emergency podcast faster for this than i did for the Red Sox. Like Theo Epstein's back. No pod, no emergency pod.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And we have the rock and roll in the main event of night two of WrestleMania. I'm like, Bob, we got to fucking get in the lab. Once again, yeah, I got the Carabas rocket signal, which is I'm available for media. You'll say I'm available for media. I feel like a press reporter or something. I'm like, all right, let's hop in the basement. Let's discuss it.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Last night on SmackDown, they advertised Cody Rhodes will make his decision. And we know he's going to face off with Roman first time in months. Super excited for SmackDown. We hear during the day, The Rock is like at a gym in Birmingham, Alabama. And if The Rock is in Alabama and SmackDown's in Alabama, that's why the rock is there. He's not just hanging out in Alabama, you know? So it's like, all right, how is the rock going to factor into this? I know they just added the big special guest referee mode for the video game. And my mind went right to that. I'm like, are they going to have the rock be the special guest referee for Cody versus reigns. And that'll be the way they make sure it's a fair match this time.
Starting point is 00:01:46 No solo interference. But no, they face off. First of all, Roman takes a bunch of shots at Seth, which were great. Someone put the, was it the other beat behind it? And they were like, it's bad. Cody talks about how much he wants the title on Roman's shoulder. How was the title Bruno held? How was the title that got ripped out of Dusty's hands? how it's the title he'll always want to finish the story I'm like sweet this is exactly
Starting point is 00:02:10 what I want you tell Roman you're coming for him at Wrestlemania he says Roman I'm coming for you but not at Wrestlemania and then he says this you the clip? I mentioned taking counsel. Roman, one of the individuals I talked to, he knows you very well. The most Disliked video In WWE YouTube history Not the most electrifying man in sports entertainment
Starting point is 00:03:00 That's not what I was going to say The most electrifying man In entertainment Is here on Friday Night Smackdown. The most disliked video in the history of WWE's YouTube channel. That's what that clip currently in nine hours. It took nine hours for it to become that. It was, I mean, listen, listen bob you know where i'm at on cody even i felt bad even though i did i felt bad like they made him bring out the rock like he was
Starting point is 00:03:36 happy about it yeah he did the hug it was like someone i think sean ross sat posted the wrestlemania nine comparison of like brett harpy and like yeah h, you go beat Yokozuna in the main event. I didn't want to anyway, basically. Like it was unfortunately that. And I feel like Cody, I love Cody. I don't know if he hit it on his face very well. Like the second he came out in that segment, there was a pit in my stomach because it was like, what's going on here? Why does he look so sad?
Starting point is 00:04:02 No. And you know what for anyone that uh isn't a big fan of cm punk tell me when he's telling lies tell me when he's telling lies because this is what cm punk said to cody's fucking face may hand you the cover of the wwe 2k video game congratulations by way. It's on sale pretty soon, I'm sure. And right when you're about to cross the finish line and finish your story. Oh, wait. What's that in the distance? It's a much bigger superstar that hasn't been around in a very long time
Starting point is 00:04:38 coming to take it all away from you. Here it is. Here we are. Punk called it. Cody gets the cover of 2K, just like Punk did in 13. And it's the very same superstar that took away the main event from CM Punk.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It's The Rock. And here he comes to take away the main event. But I think it's almost a perfect comparison, but it is also imperfect at the same time where CM Punk deserved that main event multiple times. That year that he had the match with Jericho at WrestleMania in 2011, 2012, 2013, he should have main evented at least one of those WrestleManias. Did not happen. With Cody, he was going to main event WrestleMania basically until CM Punk tore his tricep. at least one of those WrestleManias did not happen with Cody. He was going to main event WrestleMania basically until CM Punk tore his tricep.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And then you have the Brock situation. I don't know what to believe right now. I don't know where you fall on some of this stuff. And I think people are personally trying to make the rock look bad in all of this by making him sound like egotistical or a narcissist by being like oh brock's gone and punk's hurt so let me be the main event of wrestlemania because that's what's gonna save the card like that's some of the shit that i've been reading is that that was his line of thinking and that he forced himself into the main event of wrestlemania with roman reigns but maybe there's some of that but But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:06:06 I, even though this is what I want because I'm a Roman Reigns fan, I love that. How fucking angry people are. I love the fact that it's rocking Roman because that means that Roman's going over and he's coming for Hogan brother. So he's going to keep the title until at least September. But with,
Starting point is 00:06:20 with, if Cody's in the main event, do you really think, how much do you really think that hurts? Not hurts, but how much do you think that The Rock being in that spot enhances WrestleMania versus Cody? Because this could be an easy case
Starting point is 00:06:36 because everyone's trying to compare this to Daniel Bryan. It's not the same. I don't think it's the same. Yes, people are pissing and moaning on the internet right now, but listen to that crowd. The rock came out and they popped like they were happy that crowd in birmingham alabama was happy to see the rock take cody's spot obviously the internet's crying about it but when batista won the royal rumble and and daniel bryan was that the one that he
Starting point is 00:07:03 wasn't even in it that was was the Rey Mysterio number 30. Yeah, like the fans turned on it. We don't really see that yet right now. Fans are pissed. And I'm curious, like, is that going to happen? I think there's a way where they could play it and that won't happen. People are going to be excited to see The Rock in every city he appears in in the lead up to WrestleMania just because he's The Rock.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It makes sense. He hasn't been in WWE consistently for 10 years, 11 years since WrestleMania 29's built. But I think there's also a way that they're going to play it where people are going to get pissed and chant Cody Rhodes during his segments, and you could have a weird environment for this build. I don't know, though, because, again,
Starting point is 00:07:43 The Rock isn't Batista. I love Batista but the rock is on this next level where i think the hardcore wrestling fans hate it and especially because cody giving up the shot makes no sense with his character like everything about his character i want to win the title my dad got ripped out of his hands and then for no good reason he's like but not this year i guess it's strange and the, too, is like we can sit here and say, oh, they cheered the rock and this whole situation in Birmingham, Alabama. But to your point about the smart fans, guess who fucking goes to WrestleMania? Those are all the diehard.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. In Philadelphia, who turned on Roman Reigns when he won the Royal Rumble and The Rock held up Roman's hand and they didn't give a fuck about The Rock being out there. It is the diehard fans and it's Philly, so I could definitely see a scenario where the fans do turn on that match, which would suck because I am excited to see it. I've been waiting to see Rock and Roman for a long time, but is it a situation where you're sitting there
Starting point is 00:08:45 being like all right yeah like we want to see it too but not right now like we wanted to see cody and roman and cody have his moment so my i don't know me and my brother have been texting about this and he said like the last time roman was in the ring with rock there was hashtag cancel wwe network was the number one trend worldwide it like, this time they're the most disliked video in the history of YouTube. Like, Rock must be looking at Roman like, bro, what the fuck is going on here? Do people not want this?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Because again, like you said, if this match was happening at SummerSlam, there's not even an inch of doubt in that it's going to be fan favorite. People are going to love the build. It's going to have that environment where they just have to face off in the middle of the ring and they're going to get a this is awesome chant.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But now it feels like it's happening like in spite of Cody or at the expense of Cody. And people are like, what the fuck? And Dave Meltzer is saying, like you kind of talked about, he's saying the plan was Punk versus Rollins night one, Cody versus Roman night two. And the rock match was either going to happen in Saudi, which that immediately makes it less meaningful to me when it's like daytime. We know that you're doing it for money too.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah. Or it was going to happen at next year's WrestleMania. If it happened at next year's WrestleMania after Cody took the title off Roman this year, everyone loves it. Like I don't, even though the rock hasn't been in the ring for 11 years, people are now bringing that up and saying, you know, he got blown up against gender, which we mentioned on the last podcast we did. That's also true. Tours quadricep and got a bad hernia in his last match. 11 years ago, seemed like his body was telling him to slow down.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Then is this even going to be a good match? If it's a bad match man they they might have a roman brock reaction where they just start booing it and chanting for bailey or something so uh admittedly i was uh i was on the phone when cody was talking so i was i had it on i was following along like lip reading and i was like i feel like i don't really need to be that tuned into this. I eventually went back and watched the whole segment. Like I had it on DVR, but to you,
Starting point is 00:10:50 to what you were kind of just describing when I, I I'm watching Cody talk in front of Roman and then he stops talking. And then the rocks music hit and I'm like, all right, I got to call you back, get off the phone. And then Roman, I think the rock comes out and then you have like the handshaking and the hug exchange.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So when as he's walking out, I'm thinking, oh, this is how they protect the rock. Now it's a triple threat. Like, how do we like we still tell the story with Cody, but like we want to use the rock because we need the star power with no Brock. And he's not going to be able to do like a full fucking 30 minute main event of wrestlemania so this is how we protect the rock as a triple threat he can like nap on the outside for half of it uh so even i was a little surprised to see the rock kind of like be like all right you know all right dusty son thank
Starting point is 00:11:43 you but uh big boys are going to take over from here like i'm not a i'm not a cody hater but it sounded like it last week i i'm not a cody hater i i don't so this is this is serving the purpose right because like you already have the people the the the cody bobos out there that want to see him finish the story you're a cody bobo bobo what you're cody bobo and and i am someone that's like i don't give a fuck about cody's story and then last night kind of made me be like i you know what they're made you feel bad for cody yeah like it like if you're getting people like me being like fucking goddamn, man, like we got to see this guy finish the story like that. I don't know. I guess.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I mean, I know that I'm in the minority. I know that they're not catering to fans like me. There aren't many fans left who are like, fuck, yeah, Roman's going to win again. That's I'm that guy. but if you are trying to make because i what i didn't want to have happen is when cody finally finishes the story that you're expecting it it kind of takes away from it a little bit like you're still gonna get to see the moment but like if he just if he main evented wrestlemania with roman this year we all know he's fucking going over like you're just walking it takes away from it to be honest because i don't think it took away from wrestlemania 30 when brian won and like that seemed like a pretty
Starting point is 00:13:09 foregone conclusion going in kind of because they were fucking with him the whole way like there could have been a scenario where they just continued to fuck with him and which you could say the same thing about this year with roman's streak still being you know extended to September and it would still be a thought in the back of my mind like are they gonna fucking do this to Cody again uh I guess they're also counting like house shows which is kind of stupid but uh Roman's next win is his 1000th of his career oh really I didn't know that if he doesn't have that shit that seems like the sort of thing I would just like forget and he'd be at 1,000 and 100 wins and I'd be like, oh, fuck. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah. So between un-televised and televised matches in the WWE, his next victory, if he doesn't have another match until WrestleMania, which seems to be what they're planning on, it will be his 1,000th career win. So here's another question for you it seems like now the direction will be cody versus rollins night one rock first roman night two i don't think you can have cody win that title in the night one main event i think that makes the eventual
Starting point is 00:14:19 finishing of the story have less impact if he already won a world title in the wwe that's not the world title but it's a world title but do you have seth retain or do you have like damian priest cash yeah yeah and then your two wrestlemania endings this year you have to winning the title and roman retaining philly is gonna throw batteries at santa again like you have to do that because i completely agree you cannot have cody's first title win be that title which sucks for seth because he just spent how long trying to build up the credibility and everything um but no one will buy that as finishing the story because part of the story is him getting fucked over at wrestlemania 39 like him like you're not overcoming any odds by winning seth's title it's he beat seth like five to nothing in their feud he beat him every time with a torn peck there's no reason for us
Starting point is 00:15:17 to believe he can't beat seth now and seth did a good job of selling the title recently when he's like do you want to be hogan or do you want to be flair? And he's trying to sell it as the workhorse title. I like that again. It's just hard to buy knowing it's not the real title. It feels like there's a real title in WWE and Roman has had it for a thousand fucking days. And that's why it's the real title.
Starting point is 00:15:41 This one's existed for two months. It feels like question for you, Bob. Yeah. How would you feel differently about this situation? If they brought back the big gold belt, instead of creating this new, basically fake big gold belt to give to Seth,
Starting point is 00:15:58 because at least it had like a lineage, right? Yeah. Dude, I think I would feel differently. It's so stupid. It makes me feel stupid to say that a simple aesthetic title change would make me feel different about it. But yeah, like the big gold belt feels differently than this one. You know, I can't.
Starting point is 00:16:14 It was held by those guys. Like you can't like be like, you know, uh, do you want to be flared? Do you want to be Hogan? It's like, well, like they never even fucking knew that this title existed because no one did. It's brand new. new but if if that title's lineage goes back to flair and and hogue both of them held it at one point i would feel completely different about having cody go over against seth if that was the title that they were fighting for this is gonna sound bad and i'm sorry for grossing out the listeners but you know that picture of uh i think it's brian from the nasty boys just like spreading his asshole it's like a big viral photo i'm sorry there's a there's a picture that is disgusting and i recommend you don't look it up of one of the nasty boys i think it's brian knobs just spreading his asshole and
Starting point is 00:17:02 when the title got unveiled someone photoshopped his asshole onto the title and it ruined the title for me i literally cannot see unsee nasty boy's asshole when i see that seth rollins title so i think a big gold belt is much needed i mean i yeah that that's what i i'm a little surprised that they didn't do that because like they, they wanted to do that. Someone tweeted at the time, like the belt feels like a compromise. It feels like triple H said, I want the big gold belt back.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And they said, you can't do a belt without the big WWE logo nowadays. Cause we're going to send this to advertisers and sports teams. And he said, all right, we'll do the next best thing. So they just put the fucking WWE logo in the middle of the big in the middle they just smacked it on there like a sticker why wouldn't they i mean they're it's wrestling you can make shit up as you go why
Starting point is 00:17:53 wouldn't they say that this is the big gold belt but it just looks different maybe maybe they explain lineage but like they unify the titles. So Roman has the lineage. You got to beat Roman to split that up. This is the other thing. I'm getting a lot of people saying like, just give it time. You know, they're going to explain it to the way it makes sense. I know. Now, but like what, like, do you have faith in WWE explaining this to us being like, oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:22 It makes sense that Cody would give up that shot after beating 30 guys in the royal rumble like no they're not gonna explain it so it makes sense they kind of just got it turned into a mess because of the injuries and my brother also texted me he's like dude think of all the shit that had to happen to get to this point going back to like the pipe bomb going back to Cody being stardust leaving WWE starting AEW getting into a fight with Luke Perry's son and the Young Bucks like there are so many things that had to happen for us to get to this weird ass Wrestlemania scenario it feels like a simulation that we're here a lot had to happen and I bet you i feel like it's not even a hot take punk probably feels awful that he in some way is responsible like for this happening it's like yeah i because he's like
Starting point is 00:19:13 i know exactly how this feels like because it is almost exactly what is happening to you right now completely unfair it's almost would you say it's even more unfair to Cody than it was the punk I think so because he won the rumble pointed at Roman and then cut a promo in his post-fight press conference where he's like he's like I am the guy I've been the guy forever you've been missing out he mentioned like Sean Ross Sapp texting him memes about the rock coming back he's like I don't want to see any of those memes anymore and it's like he really believed the night of the rumble this is it like and it's also not it's like punk in that it's not just his storyline in this character cody rhodes in his fucking heart wants that title like as a real real life goal yeah so you're actually oh you're actually taking that away from and the fact that
Starting point is 00:20:07 they made him trot out rock is so fucked like they should have done if you wanted to do this some scenario where cody gets fucked out of the title shot again now if you do that you might risk a daniel bryant scenario where the crowd is like well what the fuck but at least it doesn't make cody look there's no there's also no heel authority figure right now either now there's yeah aldis and uh and pierce who are i like both of them they're just not corporation type figures yeah yeah they're they're uh executives of the people right now um yeah, but I all of this. What we're saying is completely valid, but at the end of the day to the the line of thinking
Starting point is 00:20:52 where if like all Cody has is the story. So once he completes the story, what does he have? Well, I mean, there's plenty of feuds that I think a lot of fans would want to see Cody in as champion. So like there's still some run there and there's still of feuds that I think a lot of fans would want to see Cody in as champion. So like, there's still some run there and there's still some juice, but I think now kind of going back to what I said earlier, you kind of just have the Cody Bobo's and on the story,
Starting point is 00:21:16 like those are the only people that cared about his story. But now even someone like me, I'm like, man, like, you know, even I kind of feel a little bit bad right now where I think if Cody won at WrestleMania 40 against Roman,
Starting point is 00:21:29 it would have been a fuck like Roman lost moment for me. But now when Cody actually does win, I'll be happy for him. Where is that? Are we going to have to wait till next year's WrestleMania? Is this going to be because last year I was like, oh my God, what a horrible decision not
Starting point is 00:21:45 putting cody over he might never be that over with the crowd ever again and then i've been counting down the days until they write that wrong like every day i'm like well we just got to get the next year's wrestlemania and then everything will even out and smooth out roman can go be a part timer without the title we'll have a working champ on tv everything will be fine and now it's like what we're just gonna have another year of this was it you that said that roman basically has to lose the title at wrestlemania yeah i think he does i don't think he can lose doesn't he can't lose that bro summer slams before the streak ends so if you're gonna put him over at wrestlemania right have him get that close and then lose.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Maybe, but like, I don't know, man, like it was, it would be awesome at SummerSlam still, but like it would be as awesome as WrestleMania. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I'm saying this as a Roman Reigns guy, who cares if he passes Hogan? That makes him third all time. I agree. I agree. Who the fuck cares about passing Hogan? He ain't passing Bruno. Bruno held it for like 25 years yeah yeah like they could make whatever arbitrary cutoff date they wanted like post bruno be like this is the modern era so it's the longest in the modern era whatever like baseball does that they're just like they just make this arbitrary like date um
Starting point is 00:23:01 but to me i don't care if he passes hogan i like what it's like all right congratulations now you have the third longest title reign of all time who cares yeah his title never gonna be the longest reign too it's like if he were a little more active on tv i might feel differently i really am over the part-time champ we've had part-time champs for like a decade in wwe going back to brock yeah like i'm really over that and it's not roman's fault he started as kind of a full-time champ or more of a full-time champ and him being part-time gives him that final boss uh like aura around him every time he shows up he does feel like the star he was always promised to be but i want him
Starting point is 00:23:45 to be that star without the title i want him to just be that brock figure who shows up and makes everyone go oh fuck like the boss is here now we gotta we gotta straighten our lines out now it's just i feel like we're gonna be in this vortex in this trap of roman reigns as champ forever solo is gonna be interfering in hoodies for the next 20 years of the wwe did you see that tweet that went viral about solo he was like why are you wearing a hoodie we know it's you yeah we all know it's solo blocked that guy over that tweet i was like come on man solo deleted his account deleted his account he might be as angry as he looks on television like that's the most light-hearted like chirp i've ever seen yeah he's like why does this dude always come out in the hoodies like we know that it's you there's a great solo tweet too or someone like they they had a clip of him going
Starting point is 00:24:33 and they were like homie just realized he has a thumb yeah yeah and i think he blocked that guy over that tweet too so he's on a block spree on Twitter. Maybe it's for the best. He deleted his account. Yeah. He's a little, he might be a little too sensitive, but he's probably been getting the Cody Bobo tweets as you're calling him. Where did Bobo come from?
Starting point is 00:24:52 Is that a thing? Yeah. Felger calls people Bobos that are like, it's Massachusetts thing. It's a fellow. I mean, Felger is from Wisconsin, but he he'll call,
Starting point is 00:25:02 he'll, he'll call people Bobos if they, if they're kind of just like, I support this team no matter what. They can do no wrong. Gotcha. Gotcha. I didn't know Felger was from Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:25:11 He does a Boston radio show, though, right? Felger and Matt? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, dude. This is a mess. WrestleMania has turned into an all-out mess. Are you not like excited to,
Starting point is 00:25:25 for WrestleMania now? Did some of this, this hindered my excitement vastly. Yeah. Like, and it sucks because I really liked the rock. Like I do like the rock, but the last two times he's come back,
Starting point is 00:25:38 I've been put in a position where I'm like, I don't want the rock to fucking win this match. I don't even, I don't want the rock to be in this match. I want rock Roman at summerlam or something like that. Yeah. It's just, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely hindered mind-jumping.
Starting point is 00:25:51 On the last podcast, I was like, are you going to WrestleMania this year? And you were like, I'm not going to WrestleMania to see Roman lose. Does this change you in that way where you're like, I might go to WrestleMania this year? No, only because it is Philly and i could totally see them turning on it like i don't want like i would want to be a part of rock roman when everyone's into it and it's like an all-time classic but if the fans are just going to turn on it i don't want to be a part of that because then it takes we'll have to monitor because they might not they might have such good promos that people are like all right this is fucking great like i'm sorry cody but this might be awesome in the ring i mean the face off on
Starting point is 00:26:28 smackdown was great them facing off and getting face to face it gave me rock hogan vibes you know rock hogan didn't need the title and they proved it it's about the familial generational head of the table tribal chief type thing nobody it doesn't make it feel bigger because the titles for the line at all. What do you think the rock said to Cody? Like, thank you. I'm sorry that this is happening to you. I hope it was something along those lines.
Starting point is 00:26:58 You hope that it was something along those lines. I hope. Yeah. I don't know what he said though. Cody's face kind of turned in the middle of it like in a negative way it seemed like it yeah like what what what if what if the rock just brought in cody and was just like Go fuck yourself. If you're The Rock, you're sitting there thinking,
Starting point is 00:27:29 I am the biggest star in the world, in all of entertainment, not just pro wrestling. I'm doing what I can. Yeah, they've changed this title. It's not Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment. All of entertainment. They've just said entertainment now, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Which is correct. You come in here, and I've seen some rational wrestling fans say rock's doing us a favor like we have the biggest star in all of entertainment saying let me be a special guest on your program so that more people are paying attention more people watching that's more money for everyone else like he's he's putting food on everyone still be involved like the scenario that i spoke about earlier you want to be a special guest referee you think that's putting asses in the seats bob dude when they did trump versus fucking mcmahon they made stone cold the special guest referee and they did press conferences all
Starting point is 00:28:19 over with stone cold as like the fucking highlight of it that was wrestling he was at the time he was done wrestling though like the rock still wants to get in there but bro what do you what indicates that the rock isn't done wrestling he hasn't wrestled a real match in 11 years and that one he got badly injured in yeah and it was not a great match like i'm i was there i you know was rooting for cena i was going crazy during the match but you watch it back it's just they just keep trading finishers the entire match that was his last match yeah i mean he did like the eric rowan match where he came in the fastest match in wrestlemania history they just wanted like a headline or something but his last real match was wrestlemania 29 we're going on 40 like he was struggling at 29 what makes you think 11 years are gonna make an improvement
Starting point is 00:29:06 by the way speaking of this this is totally unrelated but i just had to mention it have you seen mick foley wants to do one more match yeah he wants to do a death match for his so he wants to do a death match death match i love mick foley we love mick foley we've had him on the podcast before what are you thinking i mean i the one thing I like about it he's like I want to drop 100 pounds that'll be my motivation to drop 100 pounds I think that's great that would be amazing and make a much healthier you know he's in his 60s I think at this point drop 100 pounds this is for his 60th birthday he said that's what oh yeah for 60 why he was sorry yes the fact that he wants to do a death match like bro what are you talking about you can't take a bump we've seen him walking lately yeah I mean he was he wants to do a death match, like, bro, what are you talking about? You can't take a bump.
Starting point is 00:29:46 We've seen him walking lately. Yeah. I mean, he was walking with a cane when he came into the office. That was 2017. That was like six, seven years ago at this point. I think he probably, after losing Terry Funk, probably looked at it as like, look at how far into his 60s he went was still putting on crazy matches not saying it's a good thing like not saying that you should do it because someone else did it but that's probably flair did his last match like maybe he wants to do the same
Starting point is 00:30:16 sort of thing conrad thompson was involved conrad's involved with mcfoley's podcast i don't know debt when he says death match i'm like but what do you mean death match like mcfoley is known to have put his body on the line and take very stupid bumps that he shouldn't have taken looking back i don't want him to take any more of those we've gotten all the entertainment we could have ever gotten out of mcfoley's career i just want him to be healthy and happy now yeah like his body must feel like it's broken on the inside. Like what part of him waking up in the morning says, I want to fuck up my body some more. Like,
Starting point is 00:30:51 I feel like he has done irreparable damage to his body and his brain for that matter. That fucking, that match against the rock. Well, what was it? Was that the rumble 99? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Or 2000. Maybe it was around that time yeah because it's in beyond the mat yeah yeah yeah like he has done irreparable damage where no amount of time healing or physical therapy or surgery is going to correct some of the problems that he has why would you want to like especially when you're now approaching the years where you're just you're riding it out right now yeah just. Just, just fucking ride it out and have some moments of peace at the end on the back nine. Watch your Christmas movies. You did it, man.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Hall of Famer. You did everything you could have done in your career. We're thankful for your career. We just don't want you to fucking go get hurt. And he's, he is funny in the clip. He's like, I talked it over with my kids. They said just don't want you to fucking go get hurt and he is funny in the clip he's like i talked it over with my kids they said do you think you're gonna get hurt i said probably he knows he's aware but he's crazy i mean that's that's mcfoley that's kind of the epitome of his career right there he is crazy but i think the other thing or other reason why in addition to all the obvious reasons why he
Starting point is 00:32:05 should not do this is out of all and i know you would probably say the first undertaker hbk match maybe um out of all like the athletic amazing superstars in professional wrestling history if i were talking to someone that was looking at me like i had five heads because i like professional wrestling and they were like just show me one match to convince me what it is that makes you love this shit so much i'm going to the hell in a cell match in 98 king of the ring undertaker mcfoley mankind like that's the one that i'm showing them i actually did that uh in atlanta when we went to the super bowl and there were some people like barstool people like we watched the rumble and then like i don't get it like why like why do you like wrestling i was like brother
Starting point is 00:32:54 how much time because if we've got like a half hour then i've got the match for you to see and i put that on and people were into it uh Every time that they were like, holy shit, that's crazy. I'm like, wait, it's not done. There's more. Yeah, that's definitely one of those. Like, that's one of the most iconic matches in the history of wrestling. And it's weird to call it a match because it feels like a fight or like a spectacle in some way. It's not like you mentioned, like an HBK taker.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's a totally different thing, but it's the most entertaining thing that's maybe ever happened inside or outside a wrestling ring for most of it. And the stories that go along with it just make it that much better. Taker going into the match with a broken foot, them not being prepared for him to go through the cell when he did, and him landing on the chair and the tooth being lodged in his fucking nose. Terry Funk getting chokeslammed out of his shoes. Boom, new balances go flying. landing on the chair and the tooth being lodged in his fucking nose terry funk getting choke slammed out of his shoes boom new balances go flying like everything about that match makes better
Starting point is 00:33:51 mick foley is a couple of those too i mean it's nowhere near that hell in a cell level but the wrestlemania 22 match with edge is a match i feel like you could show to people and be like this is why i like wrestling yeah triple h cactus jack at the rumble exactly he's got so many where you're like i can't believe this is real and then you could go watch his title win on raw and be like this is why people like underdogs this is the ultimate underdog winning and the story that goes along with that with wcw trying to spoil it like yeah mick mick has so many great career memories we don't need anymore we're good whole situation yeah we're good dude we're all good on the death match i'm totally have a event
Starting point is 00:34:32 like mick foley's 60th birthday and have him fucking run in on the death match main event and hit mr sacco that would be awesome you know make it two current death match stars nick gage versus someone else and just let him fucking have a big highlight moment there he don't need to be taking bumps no more bumps his bump card is please mick for us um for us i hope that we keep doing these podcasts i hope they keep giving us enough content in wwe and possibly even aew i know stings got his last match coming up. Wrestling's good right now, and it's fun to talk about even when it's a mess like it is right now.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So hopefully we keep doing these, Rocket. I mean, when I get the texts, I'm available for media. I know what time it is. Yeah, I mean, listen, as long as our actual employers are not like, hey, did you guys just relaunch a wrestling podcast and not tell us you guys are just doing this?
Starting point is 00:35:28 I'm down to do these all the time i don't give a fuck it's like because i i i told you i started a group text with all my wrestling fan friends and i needed to do that for my my sanity like i'll be sitting there and i have no one to talk to but like i have these very strong opinions about this thing that i care about immensely but i have nowhere for these opinions to go so i just created a melting pot of people wrestling fans in my life i know you're not in there because i feel like i i text you like on the side like yeah like you are someone that i talk to like straightforward uh and then and then i'll talk to like this this whole uh group text thing you'll give them the b plus takes and you give me the a plus takes you get the immediate reaction and then like you'll correct my opinion if it's like actually no that's wrong then i can take my more educated opinion to the group um as their leader so yeah
Starting point is 00:36:15 whenever whenever you want to do these i'm around bob i'm gonna have i'm gonna have some takes always on wrestling would you say like they're your bloodline and um you're hayman you're like my alpha and sika and they're they're like yeah yeah they're like uh the the usos i guess uh i'm more their rakishi i don't know i can't there's a long line there i don't know i don't know i haven't by the way how do you think roman feels about this i think roman feels awkward about it a little bit um maybe i don't know i i guess it all depends on if he had uh vacation plans for may because like now it's like fuck you gotta keep the title now we need you uh yeah i'm sure if he if he lost that mania we probably wouldn't even see him again until summer slam no yeah but now makes sense a couple events before there right like
Starting point is 00:37:10 i mean not that we're expecting every pay-per-view um yeah handwork and backlash yeah no but he he unless they do like another international backlash that was sick last year when they did it in puerto rico that was sick that bad bunny entrance is still the best i think of the entire year in terms of like ops besides the the sammy turn it was the bad bunny entrance for me and you had carlito returning there you had savio vega appearing backstage like they fucking they knew what they were doing with that backlash event that was awesome very well done very But yeah, I think, I don't know. I I'm sure Roman deep down. It's like,
Starting point is 00:37:50 all right, it's another WrestleMania main event. I believe. Does this one tie Hogan for the most of all time this year? I think it does. Yeah. Seven. I think it's,
Starting point is 00:37:58 he may have vented. What? 31, 32, 33, 34, not 35, um, 33, 34, not 35, 36. The first COVID one?
Starting point is 00:38:10 Was he in? No. No, that was Drew and Brock. And then Taker and AJ. And Taker and AJ. 37. Who was in the 37 main event? I don't know. I think I was there there which is bad that i don't remember which one was that oh it was um it was him it was the triple threat with
Starting point is 00:38:33 brian and edge roman reigns has headlined numerous pay-per-view events including wwe's flagship event wrestlemania seven times 31 32 33 34 37 38 and 39 yeah 38 was the last brock match that was like what were we doing there or actually it wasn't the last brock match was it they did a summer slam match and that one was great where brock lifted the fucking ring with the trailer yeah how many wrestlemania main events has hulk hogan one two three eight all right so this is the tie romans at seven hogan has main evented eight times so this is what are hogan's one two three there's a lot of four five i think he did five is mega powers six is warrior seven slaughter slaughter psychos did nine is yokozuna which is a sneaky main event he comes in and cashes in his invisible money in the bank on yokozuna at the end of wrestlemania nine he has the last match on that card oh so that doesn so they didn't count that.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Interesting. Yeah. It's not the advertised main event, I guess. He literally just came out, hit a big boot, a leg drop after Bret Hart got salt in the eyes from Mr. Fuji. Yeah, Mr. T, King Kong, Bundy,
Starting point is 00:39:57 Andre the Giant, Randy Savage, Ultimate Warrior, Sergeant Slaughter, Psycho Sid. Warrior is my favorite match of all those WrestleMania 6 is fucking awesome that's a good one that was our second emergency from the top rope of the week
Starting point is 00:40:14 we did it like three days ago literally and we're doing it again because WWE made us and if they keep making us we'll keep coming back down to the basement and doing from the top rope Kravus thanks for being here. Everyone that was listening. Thanks for listening.

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