My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 329 - ‘X-MEN: THE LAST STAND’ (2006) REWATCH AND REVIEW WITH CLEM

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Robbie and Clem hop in a time machine back to 2006 to recap/review 'X-Men: The Last Stand' - which (mostly) focuses on the Dark Phoenix Saga! We discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly while hopefully... teaching you a fun fact or two about the movie! Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). HelloFresh: Go to https://HelloFresh.com/foxfree and use code foxfree for FREE breakfast for life! One breakfast item per box while subscription is active. ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement #XMen #Deadpool3You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and a very special X-Men The Last Stand edition of My Mom's Basement. We're going through all the old X-Men movies, or at least the ones that we want to go through in the lead-up to Deadpool 3. We know all these characters are going to be brought back, we're going to see a lot of them again. So why not refresh our memory? We did X1, we did X2, and here we are at X3. Clem has a different background than usual because he is in Las Vegas for the Super Bowl. Clem, how are we doing? I'm in Las Vegas for the Super Bowl. I just figured out my TV wasn't turning off. The remote was broken. So I was like, we're going to do a podcast with the
Starting point is 00:00:46 same MGM Tom Brady commercial playing in the background. That could have been a problem but we got that fixed. I have a sexy little lady here for the people on YouTube. My date in Vegas is this little lady. Hopefully she doesn't get jealous. By the time this goes live, we'll
Starting point is 00:01:02 know our fate for the dozen, right? That's right. It'll go on live on Friday. So everyone watch The Dozen. Hopefully I'm not getting heartbroken for the millionth live show because we just cannot close the door. So it was good. This was like the perfect NFL bye week. I'm going to be traveling,
Starting point is 00:01:21 so let's get something that we can do kind of evergreenish. And as it turns out, I believe it was our boy boy frank all the other nerds are copying us now everyone x-men is the hottest recap fucking uh project in the world now these guys had it first it's crazy right after we did our recap of x1 and x2 new rock stars and phase zero i think did their recaps and i'm not saying we're trendsetters but it certainly looks like we're trendsetters. I actually got texted by my uncle about the new rock stars breakdown too. He was like, they said a lot of the same points you said,
Starting point is 00:01:52 maybe Eric Foss is watching. That'd be nice. Nice. We can get those. I would say, do we get those subscribers and followers? If we do it first, that'll be nice.
Starting point is 00:02:02 That'll keep the lights out of the basement. Maybe get a new couch in the basement, nice new TV. You can do some nice stuff in the basement with those numbers. We can. This movie, X-Men The Last Stand, was released in 2006. And I think when we were talking about it, you said you hadn't seen it since it came out. In re-watching it, what did you think of X3, a movie where I've kind of been hyping it up in a way to you. I've been saying it's underrated. It's not as bad as the internet always says it is. What did you think of x3 a movie where i've kind of been hyping it up in a way to you i've been saying it's underrated it's not as bad as the internet always says it is what did you think
Starting point is 00:02:29 i so i think i went in the one time i saw it i liked it and got like ripped apart from like a co-worker of mine it was my first comic book guy experience in my adulthood um it's not as bad as i it's not as bad as i like thought or remembered or as it's kind of been like the black sheep of the first three. It wasn't as bad as I have it in my brain. And there are certain parts that do hit like it, since we just watched the first two relatively recently, like it feels like it's in the same universe, obviously all the same actors and stuff like that. But there's definitely things that we can pick apart which i'm sure we're going to uh but it wasn't as i mean this came out like tomorrow for marvel for the mcu be like holy
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Starting point is 00:03:50 There's a lot to go to. I mean, the Super Bowl itself. I'm sure people are using game time to get into the big game. The hotel I'm staying at here, the MGM, Park MGM. I was like, oh, do they have like a venue that has like an act? Little guy named Bruno Mars. My guy is in my hotel i gotta see him i gotta go on game time i gotta see him you gotta i can't believe he's literally in your hotel i've been to that park mgm like ballroom that's where mcgregor shouted me out that's where the video
Starting point is 00:04:17 where he's like on stage he's like hey robbie it's the park mgm ballroom steven shea said he checked into his hotel and he said who's the most famous person you checked in, which is such a Stephen Shea thing to say as somebody. And he FaceTimed me to hear, to see my expression when the lady said Bruno Mars, it wasn't me, but someone here checked in Bruno Mars. And I was like, Oh, he's here. So wow. Now how do I get my discount on game time, Bob? It's a good question. You go to game time, the app or the website, you create an account and use code MMB and you'll get $20 off your first purchase as well. Terms apply. But again, if you create an account and redeem code MMB, you'll get $20 off. And again, it's the best in the biz. Very easy to use. Great seats. They have flash deals, zone deals.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And what I always like to advertise if you're going to an event with friends you can send them their tickets so you don't have to go in together and you kind of like escape that hassle of finding each other in the crowd just go in separately different entrances whatever meet up at your seats it's the best so again game time thank you for sponsoring the show promo code is mmb um all right let's get into this movie it is the first x-men movie we're recapping not directed by brian singer brian singer actually left to go do superman returns at this point um the brandon ralph superman and in his place came brett ratner it was written by simon kinberg and zach penn, released May 26, 2006.
Starting point is 00:05:49 It's an hour 44 minutes, which is a nice, quick runtime, but this definitely feels like a movie that could have used an extra 20, 30 minutes to expand on some emotional stuff. The budget, this is very fascinating, was $210 million. This is up from $125 million on X2. And at the time, this was the most expensive movie ever made now it's already 51 on the list of all time so there's now 50 movies more expensive the current record holder is the force awakens 447 million dollar budget pretty crazy cow i did not know that was the uh i did not know that was the number one
Starting point is 00:06:26 currently in that price tag holy shit and remember i'm looking it up now the x-men the first x-men movie the whole thing was the budget wasn't really wasn't a lot right they were kind of it was 75 million and they were kind of like oh we can make a movie off of this and two movies later they're like we have a smash let's pump some money into this and what is that like three times as much almost so that's fucking wild you know you usually double it for marketing and that would be 420 million dollars if that that's really what they spent you know um it did gross 460.4 million dollars so it made a lot of fucking money like even though the critics didn't love it um everyone went and saw x-men the last stand because it also was when you advertise it as
Starting point is 00:07:11 the last stand it was a finale in some sense you know x-men origins wolverine was being developed at the same time as this movie which caused issues because they wanted to use the same characters at some point and they had to like basically sacrifice that for this movie um but it did feel like it could have been a finale made 102 million on opening weekend it was the fourth highest of all time at that point behind shrek 2 star wars episode 3 revenge of the sith and spider-man some some big old names there too some big old names before uh brian singer left this movie he planned kind of a story treatment that involved emma frost being the main villain here played by sigourney weaver which is very interesting casting that i wouldn't really expect he also wanted a gambit in the movie gambit they would have to sacrifice to
Starting point is 00:08:06 x-men origins wolverine but when brian singer was developing it he wanted keanu reeves as gambit interesting what could have been basically that feels weird let's just go because you gotta give the mona may you gotta have the little cajun twang and i love keanu i if he could do it i don't want to hear him do it so yeah that would have been i think a mistake on there and so they they end up getting lucky on that one gambit i think in the cartoons gambit was easily one of like the most favorite characters in that and the fact we went these three x-men movies without seeing him was pretty crazy when it was all said and done um the last stand this is the last time we're gonna see hugh jackman as wolverine not so fast my friend he's still
Starting point is 00:08:50 fucking him in 2024 he is still him in 2020 he's not fucking him he's still him in 2024 do you think it's fair to call gambit the boba fett of the x-men in that kids see that action figure and they're like that's my favorite character he's the coolest and you don't even need to know anything about him yes i i think that's i think that's it i don't i yeah you nailed it bob now this i couldn't believe when i ran down the wikipedia and a lot of the information that i'm going to be reading off here is from both the wikipedia and the imdb trivia page for x-Men The Last Dance. So shout out to those two sources. They could not find a director to take this movie when Bryan Singer left.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Hugh Jackman, everyone had to redo their contracts because everyone in the X-Men signed on for two movies. So it was a big like, all right, let's get as much leverage as we can with these contracts. Hugh Jackman, in his contract contract got approval over the director so he suggested darren aron aronofsky which i should be able to say his last name he's made so many fucking amazing movies black swan the wrestler um recently he made um the whale with brendan frazier like a lot of weird artsy movies. So that would have been weird. He suggested them. The studio was like not interested. They wanted Joss Whedon. Joss Whedon at this point was working on a Wonder Woman movie that never came to be.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So they then offered it to Alex Proyas. He turned it down because he had a bad experience with the studio on iRobot. They then approached Zack Snyder. Zack Snyder at that time was committed to 300. They then approached Peter Berg. He was considered. He turned it down. No reason given. Guillermo the project about a month later, citing a family reason. And then he said, like, I didn't have enough time to make the movie that I wanted to make, basically. But then later revealed in like 2022, 2023, maybe even that he left after the studio tried to resign Halle Berry using a fake script that involved her rescuing kids in Africa. So they basically said we'll give you a bigger role if you come back and she also wasn't going to come back if brian singer
Starting point is 00:11:10 was on it because of what we talked about on the last x2 show their whole intervention scuffle but finally it went to brett ratner who was considered to direct the original when they were trying to make it in 1996 so he was one of the names that came up he had done the rush hour movies um i think he did red dragon maybe he did it at that point in the 90s i forget when that came out um he also did the the family man the nicholas cage christmas movie i saw that uh brett ratner unfortunately like brian singer not a good guy there was an incident on set where he outed elliot page then ellen page as lesbian i think there's like an 18 year old kid that you're outing in front of everyone and a bunch of people came forward and kind of like co-signed when
Starting point is 00:11:58 elliot page came out and said this happened and he was also accused of rape and sexual assault during the me too movement olivia munn was one of the people that accused him of misconduct on set so just like brian singer we're gonna say boo to this guy disavow scum like this x-men trilogy just scumbag trilogy essentially as crazy as it sounds uh i remember when i when i saw brett ratner was the director i go i know that one feels like it was part of the Me Too movement or something like that And then I go to the Wikipedia
Starting point is 00:12:30 I was like yup so disavowed Do not like Matthew Vaughn The opposite All the stuff I was reading about him Stood up for Halle Berry which you love Obviously as we broke down In a previous My Mom's Basement He's the one who said what
Starting point is 00:12:45 deadpool 3 is going to fix the ms everything wrong that's with the mcu and it's gonna basically give it like a jump start so i was like i'm just gonna believe this guy blindly because i liked his movie and because i want to believe it the fact that this guy seems like a good dude that clearly cares about the x-men and the fact that they kept saying this was really rushed into production the fact he's like no i want to do this the right way that makes me feel like it's in good hands here you know matt matthew the deadpool is in good mouth saying that it's gonna be good if that makes sense yeah and a lot of the stuff that i like in this movie apparently came from matthew vaughn's working of the, like because they did rush it into production so fast.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I think they were doing like CGI and visual effects before a director was even signed on the writers. Simon Kinberg, he was a writer on Mr. And Mrs. Smith, and he had worked on Fantastic Four, the original and Electra at the time. He was also involved with X2 a little bit. I think Zach Penn was from X2. Um, and Zach Penn has a great resume, last action hero, men in black ants, Charlie's angels. Um, uh, the first Avengers incredible Hulk free guy. And then the score is by John Powell who got the job from his work on the jason bourne movies
Starting point is 00:14:06 he's also done a lot of animated stuff shrek ice age kung fu panda solo a star wars story which isn't our favorite star wars movie but i gotta say there's a lot of good stuff in that score that gives you shades of john williams but not trying to be a ripoff of him. So John Powell, he is a legend in the score game, and shout out to him. The score on this movie is pretty great. Yep, yep. Also, Vaughn cast, I saw you cast Kelsey Grammer as Beast, and he cast the guy as Juggernaut,
Starting point is 00:14:37 which they said his name was Kane Marco. And I was like, what, Kane Marco? I thought he said Kane Marco at first, and that was a ghost of Barstool Pass right there. So just absolute crazy shit. And speaking of that casting of Kelsey Grammer, Kelsey Grammer wanted to play Beast so bad, he auditioned for the role. He hadn't auditioned for any role in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:14:59 But he was very passionate about actually wanting to play Beast. And Kevin Feige insisted that he say, Oh my stars and garters at some point in this movie, he was like, that's his catchphrase. He's got to say it. And they did put it in a movie for him. I love Kelsey grammar as beast.
Starting point is 00:15:15 He just, the voice. I mean, it's just, it's so goddamn good. I will say if you had to have a lot of beast fighting, it would feel you'd have to really do a lot of work to make it seem like and that was kelsey grammar 25 years ago or 20 years ago or whatever kelsey grammar today if he had to do beast would be it would be a shit show but um that voice man they just nailed that
Starting point is 00:15:36 fucking voice who does beast in uh the x-men cartoon like that looked it up because he made a cameo in the first x-men movie he was like the truck driver that drives rogue oh okay yep yep yep i don't think he's a big actor outside of voice acting stuff but i'm pretty sure he's got a lot of voice acting credit well i dig him i did kelsey grammar and also it just has to be said kelsey grammar aside show bob is one of the greatest goddamn i mean phil hartman is like the king of the guest appearances on the simpsons but kelsey grammar sideshow bob i couldn't imagine that character as anyone else he absolutely i was scared of sideshow bob as a kid when i would do
Starting point is 00:16:15 my like i'd get the dvd box sets i was like oh my god is this guy gonna get me at night like i gotta lock my door i was terrified of sideshow bob what a great character um the comic inspirations for this movie obviously the dark phoenix saga by chris claremont and john burn is the main influence but gifted by joss whedon and john cassidy serves as the political influence so everything about the cure and them trying to get the cure was mostly taken from gifted they did cure stuff in the X-Men animated series as well, but that was apparently what the studio really wanted them to focus on as well. The studio didn't care for the Dark Phoenix saga,
Starting point is 00:16:53 and the writers had to fight for it. And this is why, kind of like halfway through the movie, Jean Grey doesn't have much to do. She becomes just Magneto's henchman in a way, and that's because the studio was like you have to make a movie about the cure thing that's what the people are going to care about i think that was a bad move yeah uh yes uh dark phoenix i'm like trying i feel like jose where i'm just like the anger's building because of something that i read growing up the dark phoenix
Starting point is 00:17:21 saga is fucking awesome um and they fucked it up twice. And I'm just going to plea right here on our podcast that is apparently being listened to by all the bigwigs in the podcast game as well as Kevin Feige. Do not be scared to bring back the Dark Phoenix Saga within the first 10 years of the X-Men coming back into the MCU. I know they did it twice. They failed twice. You guys can do it. You're going to do it right. Hopefully. I not, I can't trust the flaggy like I used to, but I want someone to do it right on the big screen. Cause that is so fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And all the fallout from it and everything like that. And this movie, it plays exactly what you said. It plays like someone who's like, you have to do it if you want to, but you really don't have to. I think that's very fair to say how it plays and you know what broke my heart reading about this and i've been open about the fact that i haven't seen dark phoenix the actual movie i saw all i needed to see in the trailers i know a couple people that saw it and told me stay away from it um simon kinberg the writer the co-writer on this had regrets after x-men the last stand he was like i i really wish we had more time and were able to flesh things out better um he later got to write and direct dark phoenix so it's the same fucking guy that did it on x3 did it on dark phoenix i respect the studio being like
Starting point is 00:18:39 we'll give him another shot at the same time give someone else a shot at dark phoenix you know like not to hate on simon kinberg because he did admit afterwards he's like yeah it wasn't the best movie but like i don't know man that was tough that was heartbreaking for me to read yeah there there should never be uh if you're a if you're rushing an x-men movie and b hey we're gonna you know jam two x-men comics into it dark phoenix doesn't need more shit jammed into it. There's enough emotion and backstory and fallout from it that goes on.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You can kind of just keep it like it is. And now it makes perfect sense. When Jean Grey just becomes Magneto's fucking bitch, basically. It's just sitting there quiet. That guy, it was almost like the comic book gods tried to get us off of being like listen
Starting point is 00:19:25 simon was simon ginsberg simon kinberg yeah simon kinberg listen he's gonna do it terribly we're gonna basically hit the fast forward button i'm like nope they brought him back in feige this if you do the dark phoenix do not even think of bringing this fucking guy back for round three no three strikes you're out he's out he's fucking been thrown out of the stadium it's over yeah um a laptop featuring a rough cut of the movie was stolen from the 20th century fox lot footage never surfaced from that so nobody knows where that laptop is whatever happened to it and also about two-thirds of the script leaked online as they were working on it like they literally hadn't finished the movie yet first two-thirds leaked online and it got panned like nerds hated it it was all over the forums um and wikipedia says that vaughn came in and revised most of the big sequences in the
Starting point is 00:20:17 movie but never received a story credit or anything so he's kind of like a ghost writer on x-men the last stand and the way that everyone makes it sound is like if it was good it was matthew vaughn matthew vaughn's a fucking hero this is what i learned through watching this x-men movie i wish i had we had watched this the week before the deadpool quote drop because it'd be like it's our boy matty vaughn the fucking danger himself matthew vaughn welcome in the basement anytime you want, pal, because I just got to pick your brain. Let's just talk some X-Men and just get Jose.
Starting point is 00:20:50 He's got some great movies on his resume. Yeah, so nothing but love. The other two bozos that directed these movies, this Avow, Matthew Vaughn, polar opposite. Very much Avowed. I don't Avow anyone in the world more than I Avow Matthew Vaughn. We're Matthew Vaughn, polar opposite. Very much avowed. I don't avow anyone in the world more than I avow Matthew Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:21:08 We're Matthew Vaughn's stand podcast now. Yes. All right. So let's get into the movie itself. The opening sequence with Magneto and Charles going to Jean Grey's house when she's a kid. The de-aging in this is very impressive for 2006 i think it was actually the first time anyone was de-aged in a movie and a studio called lola visual effects who work on so much they were the ones to do it it's not perfect you can definitely it looks a little
Starting point is 00:21:35 video gamey at times if they turn their head the wrong way or something but i think it's very good and i love the stan lee cameo that kind of starts the whole movie where he's just watering his plant and he sees shit floating around him. I love the opening sequence. I honestly love the first like 35 minutes of this movie. Yeah, you just see the gray mailbox.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Oh shit, we're going back in time. Charles is walking. The de-aging thing did fuck me up. I'm like, what the hell? I don't remember if it looked goofy back then. It was probably like, what the fuck kind of magic did they do? Did they send them back in time and then bring them back in a time machine and they didn't age? I don't know how it all worked.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Obviously, now we know. There were a couple times where we were like, eh. But I feel like back in 2006, it probably was pretty damn good. And, yeah, I had the same thing the stanley cameo it's like let's just keep this going as long as possible even the um little marvel comic book pages were all x-men stuff all and they were all directly uh comics that influenced this movie oh really every panel shown had some sort of influence on this movie which i love the attention to detail like that's amazing and then you go right to warren or angel trying to cut off his
Starting point is 00:22:52 wings as a kid like his dad's banging down the door he opens it and there's blood and feathers everywhere and he's like no not you this scene fucked me up as a kid like this was really scary to me when I was little. And I remember being like, Oh my God, like it made me feel almost uneasy. This was of course, one of the scenes that Matthew Vaughn intended to use in his script.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Of course, the guy, the goat, the goat himself. This is one of those scenes that makes you feel uncomfortable. And when we're all getting like, especially me, I'll admit it.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I'm going to be geeked up whenever the first, the next X-Men comes out. You have to remember it's a lot of like twisted social, political issues and this, you know, discrimination stereotypes. There's going to be some pretty, there might be some gnarly shit coming our way.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Right. And I mean, you can see that online. If you want to take a look at any given moment, the escapism isn't going to be as much with these X-Men movies, you know, for whenever they come out, even though obviously stuff was going back down back in oh six,
Starting point is 00:23:56 but yeah, that one's tough. You're just like hoping your kid just beaten off. And that's the only reason why. And it's like, nope, he's a mute and he's, oh,
Starting point is 00:24:09 and all the fucking tools he had like cheese where did he get those tools some of the longest fucking pairs of scissors i've ever seen it look like like almost the edward scissorhands where it's like do they even manufacture tools like that i don't know yeah i thought the same thing the way he's like throws the drawback it's all they're all full of blood it's like he tried every one to cut his wings off oh yeah you have a certain amount of money to have tools like that even at your disposal like portland could probably have like when he moved into his whatever house his latest miami house monbook they probably came with like those tools in like a kitchen drawer. Probably in the surgery room downstairs. Then this scene fucking rules. The danger room scene, especially as a kid in 2006, I'm eight years old.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Seeing this danger room scene blew my mind. They do the fastball special from the X-Men comics where Colossus throws Wolverine. You see Kitty Pryde and Colossus are going to have a little bit of a bigger role in this movie. special from the x-men comics where colossus throws wolverine you see kitty pride and colossus are going to have a little bit of a bigger role in this movie i'm seeing a sentinel head go flying is so great it actually reminded me one of my favorite uh monster movies is cloverfield i think i've talked about on the podcast the original cloverfield found footage the shot of just the statue of liberty head like being thrown down the block It was in the trailer, and they're like, oh, my God. The Sentinel shot two years before Cloverfield came out, pretty similar to that.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So I was like, did J.J. Abrams see X3? I'd be like, I don't know. Let's do that with the Statue of Liberty. And I love the class dismissed line from Logan. Such a classic catchphrase. And he's like, later on, he's like, I'm just the sub. Don't take it up with me take it up with the real teacher i always loved how the danger room was so like
Starting point is 00:25:52 immersive and and i love the redirects too when even in the cartoons i think they would do it where you think they're in a battle and it's like nope just just a test just a pop quiz here on fighting sentinels so yeah the they give give Logan a few of those lines where he, he Hugh Jackman definitely got, that must've been in his contract. I get three fucking awesome. Yeah. And the danger room,
Starting point is 00:26:12 they wanted to use an X two. They didn't have the budget for it. So they put it in this one that goes for a couple of things in this movie that I'll point out that were intended for X two that got cut and put into this later. Um, I love the line. Not everybody heals as fast as you, Logan, when they're talking about, you know, were intended for X2 that got cut and put into this later. I love the line,
Starting point is 00:26:27 not everybody heals as fast as you, Logan, when they're talking about his emotional healing, basically, over Gene's death. And I love how much Gene's death feels like it's fresh when this movie starts. And this might sound weird to say, I felt like this felt like more of a direct sequel to X2 than most of the MCU sequels feel like sequels to their movies. You know, like Civil War, you don't need to see Winter Soldier to see Civil War and certainly help with a lot of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:54 But you don't need to see the first Captain America to see Winter Soldier. Again, it would help knowing Bucky and stuff and there are callbacks. But this is like you have to see x2 to understand the cure to understand mystique where she's coming from did you get that sense too that's again now it's a great way to put it i the only thing that i wrote down the cyclops line as well i feel like it's like we really truly never appreciate that like cyclops was married to jean gray we they were probably dating for a while before then. God knows what age they both go to like Xavier's
Starting point is 00:27:28 mansion and like meet up and all this kind of stuff. And like Wolverine's like, man, I really loved her. It's like you knew her for a movie. I was fucking married to her. She was my wife. She had a goddamn ring on her finger. So I always, I have to say this too. Cyclops
Starting point is 00:27:44 isn't as big of a pansy as I, like on the rewatches. I don't think he's as big of a pansy. Like Wolverine is kind of an aggressive dick that's going literally like hitting on his wife. Dealing his girl. Yeah. Yeah. And like, I think that, and that was a, that's a good line. Hugh Jackson had a good line.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Sky Cyclops had a good line as well. We still need Cyclops to be done much better in the future movies. that's nothing in scott marsden is that it james marsden james marsden scott summers i'm thinking of yeah very good actor it's just we need to have a guy who is being written like a fucking leader of the x-men exactly exactly um someone that was cut from x2 that was supposed to be an x3 was alan coming as nightcrawler apparently they thought it would basically just be mean to make him do all that makeup for what was originally intended as a very small role he's going to be in like one scene which is kind of disappointing at the same time if they didn't have anything for nightcrawler creatively i'm glad they
Starting point is 00:28:41 didn't try to force it on him The X-Men 3 video game Explains his absence from this movie As he left the X-Men Because he didn't want a life of violence So they could have thrown a line in there It's not necessarily needed You don't watch this and you're like Well where the fuck was Nightcrawler
Starting point is 00:28:57 But he was one of the best parts of X2 So I am a little surprised they didn't use him in X3 Is there a line Is there a scene where i am being rubbed by funky johnson and holly barry again no okay i'm out that was my very bad kurt bagner uh impression also you just triggered my memory nightcrawler was always like one of the best guys using every x-men video game and he just oh yeah here and shit like that oh so good hopefully we get some good video games when the new movies come out and shit i hope so too uh mystique rebecca romaine another person who
Starting point is 00:29:31 was not really available for shooting in this movie which is why they had to make her have a much smaller role um she had some kind of conflict uh but her first scene with the agents where she's fucking with them is so great great choreography when she starts attacking them it's a really well done action scene shot well um and later on i tweeted this clip when she's fucking with the security by turning into like the president and a little girl there's just this great line where if you take it out of context it's a little girl being like please let me go, I want to just get out of here. I promise I won't be bad again. And then the security guard goes, keep it up.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I'll spray you in the face, bitch. Just staring at this like six-year-old girl in the face. It is so funny. There's a couple lines where you just hear like, bitch. I think it said like three times in this movie. I was like, geez, bitch was popping in 2006. Like, we can't use any of the four-letter words, so we'll give you the five-letter word three times. You can. I was like, geez, bitch was popping in 2006. Like we can't use any of the four letter words. So we'll give you the five letter word three times.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You can use that bitch. The next scene I want to talk about is my favorite scene in the movie. One of my favorite scenes in the franchise. I've brought it up multiple times. The scene where Magneto walks into the church and gives that speech to all of the cast aside mutants and everything and then refuses the tattoo and they're like where's your ink and he shows them the ink from the holocaust and he's like no needle will ever touch this skin ever again chills every time one
Starting point is 00:30:56 of the best magneto moments in any of the movies and also ken leung is in this scene he's the guy with this really spiky face the mutant that's like a fucking blowfish. He's the guy from not only Lost, but he's in that one episode of The Sopranos where he's in a facility with Junior at the end. And he just views Junior as like this basically leader mob boss. And he's like, I'll fuck anyone up for you. And then Junior doesn't love him. He attacks Junior. Oh, I love that character.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I forgot all about him. I thought you were going to tell me the character that Mincy fucking said wrong, and it led to a fucking trade that I was going to have with Mincy. That was a recurring character. Yeah. The fact that Mincy almost got that right is the most craziest thing of all. I know. He was real close.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. But I saw him, and immediately I was like, oh, my fucking God. That's the guy from the Sopranos. And he also has like a really big role on lost. So I'm a big fan of that guy. I'd like to see him in more stuff. I know he's in missing recently, that movie where it's like all shot and taken from a screen recording of a
Starting point is 00:31:57 computer. There's two of them now and they're both pretty fucking good searching and missing. Every time Magneto kind of like references the holocaust and you know no one other you know put their ink on me again you're like oh yeah i completely understand why he wants to wipe humanity off of the map completely no problems here magneto you're you're you're you're cool with me so scott then goes out kind of like he came in kind of like a bitch um motherfucker got kissed to death gene gray comes
Starting point is 00:32:25 back big ball of light she starts making out with him makes him take his glasses off and everything the studio wanted to kill off cyclops off camera they didn't want him in this movie they wanted to just be like he died on his the way back to his home planet or whatever you know like uh because james marsden was not really available for shooting either because he was going to superman returns with brian singer so he was kind of hopping over the fence to dc and the studio was like just kill him off camera and the writers were like no we need cyclops like his death could actually be you know an emotional point in the movie it's not a great death scene in my opinion but i do like the rest of the x-men's discovery of what happened you know charles
Starting point is 00:33:09 gets a sense sends him to the lake and then when they show up and everything's floating still that's a cool scene yeah and then the glasses and all that kind of stuff i remember in the theater being like cyclops disappear like i didn't think there was a chance he was dead and i like left the theater and like so what happened to cyclops anyway so i was very confused about all that i didn't like it i didn't love it um i know we get more deaths heavier deaths along the way i didn't really love it at the time again the fact they almost done off the screen that would have actually caused like nerds in 2006 to like go on some version of the black web get these guys addresses go on map quest and fucking
Starting point is 00:33:52 burn their houses down that would have led to a real fucking problem for that one thing is if the leader of the x-men's a pansy but to kill the leader of the x-men off screen holy shit that would have been bananas the only decision worse than that was whoever, this fucking people with this mutant suppression gene goes, hmm, how can we have a nice public face to show that we're
Starting point is 00:34:15 not this evil corporation that's just trying to fuck with mutants? Let's have it at Alcatraz. What the fuck? I don't remember that at all. i was like who was in charge of pr for the mutant suppression drone yeah no that was crazy that like that was someone said that we should have scenes at alcatraz and it was like they just threw it onto a scene where it would make no sense for it to be there they were like yeah that'd be a good location to go to oh don't
Starting point is 00:34:42 don't worry about the kid who the little kid who has the mutant suppression gene he's locked up in alcatraz right yeah and that kid there was a way to do that storyline better that storyline felt like it got in the way of the dark phoenix shit like just like a lot of the cure stuff did every time they cut to the little bald kid in the alcatraz it was just like yeah this is when the movie hits a little snag for me. I thought he was somebody, too. He looks like another actor that is like that age. And I was like, I thought for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And then I looked up his ID and I'm like, oh, I know him from absolutely nothing. So that was one of those things I always saw. He grew up to become a big actor and I was dead wrong on that. The scene with Beast where he puts his hand out and it changes and Beast kind of reassures and he's like he apologizes and beast is like no no don't apologize that scene i like because that's that's that thing i talked about next to where it's like the x-men are always looking out for kids almost like teachers are like that's how the x-men should be portrayed other than that every time they cut through i was like all right enough with the fucking little kid dude kelsey grammar is beast is just so good that, the scene where he's like,
Starting point is 00:35:45 he's being basically like in the cabinet and he's not a token, but they start treating him like a token or fight all their battles for them that they don't want to get their hands dirty in. And the way Beast like goes along with it, but then also calls him out as bullshit. I'm like, again, I fucking love Kelsey Grammer.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I wish he could be Beast for the fucking next set of movies. It would be awesome. Well, he is going to be Beast in the next set of movies remember at least he was in captain marvel captain marvel they're not captain but the fucking the marvels he was the post-credits scene remember monica rambeau wakes up beast right oh my god and it's the cgi item it's a motion cap version of him so it's not like they did the makeup like in these movies but it's a CGI item. It's a motion cap version of him. So it's not like they did the makeup like in these movies, but it's,
Starting point is 00:36:26 but it's Kelsey grammar. Do you think he's going to be, I think they had to do that. Cause they can't use anyone else's piece as well. You know? So like, I wonder if he's going to, I would love it.
Starting point is 00:36:35 But I also think like, again, beast doesn't have to be like 70 years old. I want to take, let's take a guess on Kelsey grammar's age right here. I bet he's 70. I bet he's 71. I'll go.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Kelsey Grammer, age 68. All right. It's basically a baby. We could have him as Young Beast. He'd be fine. We do have, is Nicholas Holt Young Beast, I think? So, like, we could, I mean, but he's doing lex luther now he might not have time to pop in for a young beast cameo i don't know though to deadpool 3 everything's
Starting point is 00:37:10 on the table as far as cameos i think that's true that's true i i love i love beast lex luther i'm trying to think of what's like a like a parallel move to lex luther basically magneto professor x maybe a couple of the x-men like yeah lex luther is a big one he's a big boy especially if they do him right because they haven't really done him right since the original kevin spacey lex luther is kind of like yeah and then the fucking jane jesse eisenberg one well he said it himself he's like don't don't basically yeah um we get a young ben foster as angel when they cut to angel a little older. I think it's like in present day.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You know, he's thinking about going through with the surgery, tells his dad, this isn't what I want. It's what you want. Breaks free. I loved the scene as a kid where he fucking flies all throughout San Francisco,
Starting point is 00:37:59 wherever they are. But watching this now, I can't unsee Ben Foster as the scumbag that he played in Hell or High Water. Oh, one of those. Chris Pine's brother, he is just an all-time sleazeball. So now seeing him, he's an amazing actor. But I'm just like, fuck that guy. Wouldn't it have been great if Angel flew out the window and just splattered on the ground?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Those wings, they're not that strong because you kept cutting them as a kid i would have been funny like in an other guy's moment like there goes my hero and like dude again kind of the pr for the fucking alcatraz like you have leather straps and a shotgun that's like a gun that gives you the shot like your patient's fucking heart rate's gonna spike down and be able to do whatever surgery you have to do to them what are we doing here people come on um tell you what we're doing here we're talking about hello fresh now one of our favorite sponsors whether you're trying to save money eat better or stress less hello fresh is here to help you do all three say hello to the most delicious year yet with fresh ingredients and chef-crafted recipes at a price you'll like delivered right to your door. No more staring blankly into the fridge wondering what you're going to make for dinner.
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Starting point is 00:41:19 turns back into rebecca romaine the way he ditches her and he's like sorry you're not one of us now that's one of those things like you said whenever they bring up his backstory with the holocaust you're like i really understand him as a villain i don't know if i even want to root against this guy when he does this to one of his own i'm like well that's why he's the biggest villain in the x-men that's why i want to root against him i felt bad for mystique yeah i felt bad for mystique who like has a pretty decent body count if i remember correctly from the first couple movies is villainous as they get but i kind of love like i i gotta do the old date chapelle that was cold blooded like it's the same like she would have she she would have been quotable human and she still would have
Starting point is 00:42:02 been like fuck these mutants or fuck these humans. I'm riding for the mutants. He was, she's ride or die. And he just fucking threw her aside and I felt terrible for her. And then I'm like, well, she's now like a super, has supermodel good looks here.
Starting point is 00:42:14 So it's a decent surprise for her. She's going to land on her feet for sure. Yeah. But in that scene, she's like naked, like in the fetal position, looking up like a scared puppy. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:42:24 see ya juggernauts my new dude it's the woody woody buzz me i'm like when he when he drops woody like i won't be needing you anymore and he just picks up juggernaut he does have like the helmet like buzz lightyear and that casting like you said juggernaut it might be the most ripped guy of all time in this movie like i thought his stomach was like some kind of like plastic muscle suit but i think it's just his stomach he has like 26 abs he looks like the juggernaut toy basically they just slapped they made a toy stomach on top of a real yeah it was that good i don't want to kill humans with you anymore and just now if he had killed mystique and be like you're a human boom
Starting point is 00:43:07 murder that would have been even more bad i have yeah i i don't want to say i'd like to have seen it but like that's how magneto rolls man he don't give a damn about nobody no and uh is this when i think this is when or no not not yet. I'm skipping ahead. So that was the first 35 minutes of the movie. I made a note like the convoy breakout was the first 35 minutes. I think the first 35 minutes are great. Then Logan and Jean start fucking before Scott's body's even cold. The scene like is weird to me.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Like I get it plays off the sexual tension they've always had something about it makes the movie kind of like hit a snag here um and he's like denying as she rips off his belt like a comical like no we're gonna do this now on the operating table and then they go back to her childhood home because she leaves they go back to her childhood home and huge stakes. Professor X killed by Jean Grey. I think the actual execution of the scene is pretty well done. And Wolverine trying to climb on the ceiling to get to him. Now, what makes me go that was the wrong move is Guardians of the Galaxy 3. When you see that movie and the fact that they didn't kill anyone,
Starting point is 00:44:26 I'm not saying you had to not kill anyone in this movie. I appreciate them actually taking swings like this, but that movie had so much more of an emotional impact than this movie. And it's like, it almost feels cheap when you compare the two, you're like, Oh, they were just doing deaths to do deaths in that movie.
Starting point is 00:44:44 It's it very much're like, oh, they were just doing deaths to do deaths in that movie. It very much feels like, yeah, a movie that's rushed should not have Professor X dying in it. That should be taken care of. Shouldn't have 18 people turn down the director's role. And it should be done as something that is like, all right, this movie we're going to get from A to B to C. And along the way, the X-Men's going down. That's a much more way. Now that you bring this up, however, I would like to say, it kind of feels like when they quote-unquote killed Chewbacca,
Starting point is 00:45:15 and they didn't kill Chewbacca. And granted, he's not to Professor X's stature, but he's fucking more beloved than Professor X's. He's basically your big old dog on the movie screen and i'm just like you made us think you killed chewbacca like that that was fucking wrong man i didn't at least though that lasted like two minutes it's like two minutes later in the movie they're like oh yeah chewbacca's life this not until the post-credits scene you just think professor x that was the end of him and let me tell you rob i remember this distinctly you could have heard a pin drop
Starting point is 00:45:48 when he died the whole theater went what the fuck just happened on the big screen and that's like 40 minutes in too so you're like what the fuck is the rest of this movie gonna be if you're killing him off that early in the movie but again the for whatever reason the moment hits but you don't feel it emotionally like when they cut to his grave head or gravestone what headstone whatever the fuck you call it you don't you don't you don't want to cry at least i never wanted to cry it was just like i can't believe that happened it's more of a shock i like his his headstone or whatever it is i like i like where he's looking sideways almost like a nobel prize or something like that um and these fuckers keep leaving behind accessories you see his wheelchair son the cyclops has the sunglasses jean gray is an accessory killer basically she's a
Starting point is 00:46:34 she's fucking doesn't like people that have she's basically like against disability disabled people she basically is yeah excuse me dark fiend if we had canceled in 2024 she would also just turn us all into fucking dust because she could just murder us all um or that i think you said too that before that very heavy scene she's basically like fucking logan and yeah they said it was a flip of the first time they meet when logan's on the table because he's the one who's hurt and how it all goes. But that, again, they just didn't take enough time with the Dark Phoenix character to then be like, all right, now she wants Logan. So, yeah. That's a gripe.
Starting point is 00:47:17 We're just going to leave it at that, Bob. It's a gripe. And then like the rest of the movie, I don't love nearly as much. Like everything that's post. Yeah. Everything post-Xavier death never gets as exciting as that again. And then like the rest of the movie, I don't love nearly as much. Like everything that's on post. Yeah. Everything post Xavier death never gets as exciting as that. Again, you go into the forest where it's like Wolverine versus random henchmen, nameless
Starting point is 00:47:35 mutants. And then Jean Grey is the Vader to Magneto's Palpatine. And that seems kind of cool. Like Magneto using Jean Grey as his puppet and stuff for whatever reason it just doesn't work that well in this movie i don't know if it was them taking time away from it with the cure stuff it just never works the wolverine fight scene fight scene in the woods where he fights like 10 different henchmen and not one ounce of blood is dropped yeah dude come on it. It just felt weird.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And the woods in general. So that was the Brotherhood of Mutants. You got a couple of them. You have the Spikeface guy. I didn't even remember this until I was reading the notes. Psylocke is in it. Psylocke. I mean, no offense to the love you laid behind me right here.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Psylocke is a goddamn teenage kid's dream. When you're reading comic books and you're like, oh, I like girls. I learned this from Psylocke. They're like, boing. When Olivia Munn was cast as Psylocke, it was like, those motherfuckers knew what they were doing. It was good casting. She was doing what she agreed to.
Starting point is 00:48:39 The seven nerds that already are in the palm of my hand, they'll be in the palm of my hand when I hear her in Skylock for the first time. And the fact she was just kind of in the background there, that always just pissed me off. It's funny, though. When we were talking about how this movie is known as being a disappointment, I always do think of the final third of the movie or whatever the woodsy part is.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And that kind of is what plays out here this stuff is the like uh it's just like it's all like it's all filler until we get to the golden gate bridge stuff like the actual climax of the movie the final battle like i i sort of like when they reunite pyro and ice man at the protest and he has that moment it's like seeing someone from high school that like went down a bad path he's like yeah it'd be better than this man um like i like that yeah pyro's a cunt he's a cunt oh yeah he's the worst the worst and he like i thought he was so cool when i first saw him and then he just he becomes such a douchebag like he would be the the drug dealer in your town or something you know that that's actually lacing things with fentanyl yeah yeah i'll say not the drug dealer that gives you
Starting point is 00:49:48 weed and you know no no the bad drug dealer the really bad one um and then the original ending for this movie was supposed to be in washington dc another one of those like kind of white house type things but planet of the apes had just done that. So Brett Ratner felt like let's not do that again, changed it around to the golden gate bridge, which was inspired by, I think it was the new X-Men one 47. I have it written down somewhere here. Um,
Starting point is 00:50:16 and that was when Magneto did it to the Manhattan and Brooklyn bridges. So they took that, said, let's throw it over. Cause we've got to do Alcatraz for some reason. Let's throw it over to San Francisco. We'll do it with the golden gate bridge. And then the final battle it's good,
Starting point is 00:50:33 but not great. Like, I feel like it has its moments where I point at the screen, do the Leo thing. I'm like, Oh shit, that's good. A lot of it,
Starting point is 00:50:40 like the CGI doesn't really hold up through a lot of the final battle, which is a little surprising considering it costs one sixthsixth of the film's budget 35 million dollars to do just the final battle first of all the when magneto's like don't worry about getting there i'll get us there ripping apart the golden gate bridge that was a bit much can we just say that was much like and he does it in his days of futures future he does it where it's like with the football stadium or the pentagon i remember he does it in his days of future past yeah yeah um like magneto humans other mutants they have to get to work the next day or whatever on the other side of the gold gate bridge they can't do that because the fucking bridge is gone and like
Starting point is 00:51:21 couldn't you have just rented a few party buses and everyone just shows up and you know you're dancing on the pole and whatever and then you show up and you try to kill a fucking little kid because it was being power what are we doing here i just thought that was that was that was uh charles always wanted to build bridges that was i like that line that was a good line um their entrance to the final battle i didn't really like i i was like whoa i didn't know they had that in them when they're all coming down from the jet or whatever it was yeah but the thing that kills me about this scene all these brotherhood the things are called like the brotherhood right yeah all the like none of them use their powers at all they just like run and just get bundled by the
Starting point is 00:51:59 fucking x-men run up boom boom like use a laser beam shoot something out there's like again there's like five of them the guy who throws like little twigs at people and shit like that the spiky guy psylocke apparently is somewhere in there with purple hair like what they're not even i think magneto just took homeless people from san francisco yeah we're like dude we're mutants just like give us a house and he's like all right follow me and they never use their powers it's such an easy opportunity to do cool shit cool creative shit that doesn't need to matter to the story you know you say this mutant has a power where he phases through people like bubbles and you watch him kill somebody with fucking but like just stupid stuff like that would have at least made this more visually interesting and everything. You don't feel like this is the last stand.
Starting point is 00:52:47 This battle never feels like an end game type battle where you're like, this might be the last time we see some of these heroes, even though some of them were being killed off earlier in the movie. It just doesn't have that like gravitas about it. One of the lines that uses bitch that we were referencing earlier, when juggernaut goes home, the juggernaut bitch. And then he starts chasing Kitty Pryde down the hall and stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Great gift, by the way, juggernaut bursting through walls. I always use that when I'm like, I'm ready to run through a wall. That line, I'm the juggernaut bitch is from an X-Men parody series where they would redub the X-Men cartoon, if you're not aware. And juggernaut was just constantly saying bitch they're calling everyone bitch so they actually gave that a shout out in a movie and i did not expect that so i watched i loved that video before i had seen the movie and i think some people were like oh that was so unnecessary i loved it i love the video that is you have to i don't i don't even think i found on youtube it was on like i googled i'm the juggernaut bitch after i watched x3 and um i
Starting point is 00:53:52 think it was on like daily motion or ebombs world or something one of those old school sites that like i grew up on before youtube was even a fucking glitz a little glint in uh youtube in google's eye man that video is so fucking funny. I am a sucker for cartoons where you dub stuff over. You dub rap music over it. There are a few lines that would not play today. I will fully admit that. I'm the juggernaut bitch.
Starting point is 00:54:17 If you're listening to this, you got to watch it. If you haven't seen it yet, report back because I'm telling you, I fuck up. It's long. I give it a good five minutes though the first scene at the very least with charles and the juggernaut oh and like bob you're like a couple too right it was a viral video it was awesome what yeah isn't there more than one i think they did a couple uh i think the one i got is like a extended i got like a 20 minute video i don't know if there was other stuff but that one they actually random enough max kellerman used to tweet it uh uh quoted a lot on his new york radio
Starting point is 00:54:51 show max kellerman was actually very fun and like i actually enjoyed listening to him before he became whatever he became on first take uh back in like mid-2000s and he used to play he's like i'm the juggernaut bitch whenever uh brandon jacob hit the ball yeah i'll smack you with your own pimp just like i'm just saying and i'm gonna watch it tonight i'm gonna have to re-watch it again tonight so that's everyone's homework in the basement maybe we'll do a whole episode just about those silly as videos um a lot of the the final battle you go back to the kid and the cure storyline and needles and who's getting hit with a needle and who isn't getting hit with a needle. It almost turns X3 into like a different movie.
Starting point is 00:55:28 The cure storyline. It reminds me I've referenced a lot in talking about a movie that feels like two movies. Return of the Jedi feels like two movies that you have to save Han Solo at the beginning. You have the stuff with Vader and the Emperor at the end. It works really well in that movie. It does the opposite in this movie where it's like i would have preferred you made one movie for this one but they made a couple it's not bad it's never like this is unwatchable to me but you just lose
Starting point is 00:55:55 a lot of the like heart and emotion by trying to cram everything into an hour and 44 minutes what if this is a two-hour movie and you spent a little more time on dark phoenix i think it could have been better yeah i mean there was a um kitty pride calls him a dickhead at one point that was a good landing on the line angel catching his dad however was very lame i thought of all the people he just and like i know you could do that in the movies but i always that stuff's like cringe i think um also the fight just evolvingolving into magneto throwing cars and pyro lighting them a fire it's like you have an entire brotherhood of mutants again or maybe just homeless people who are convinced yeah and you're just like all right we're gonna do the old car like the car on fire trick and i was like what are we doing here what are we talking about however
Starting point is 00:56:40 gene thanos dusting everyone battle i had it in the notes i said gene was turning people to dust way before thanos huh she was she was turning people to thanos turning there's a couple of cool moments where she turns the needles on people or stops all the needles and everything yeah the scene where magneto realizes that the humans have learned and they're using plastic guns against him it's called plastic they've learned i thought that was a good line i don't hate magneto sending the mutants out of the homeless people out and being like the pawns die first the pawns are eliminated like he's ruthless in this movie um then gene's death is all right it was nowhere near the impact that her death had in the previous movie you know like you have to compare it and it's like x2 made me feel something for those characters
Starting point is 00:57:30 this one was just like all right and famke johnson was not thrilled with her demise and role in this movie either she didn't she didn't think it was great yeah no i can't i did like the part where she's like please kill me basically yeah. Wolverine, I like that twist of it. But yeah, it was tough. Listen, I'm not into crazy girls, but there's something about Dark Phoenix that just does it for me. I'm going to be honest. She has the black eyeballs and her veins are in. Not that one.
Starting point is 00:57:55 That one's a little too extreme for me. But yeah, the other Dark Phoenix, the one where it's just Jean doing whatever the fuck she wants. I get down with that dark Phoenix big time. And then the final shot, the final scene is Ian McKellen sitting alone at the chessboard to mirror like poetry. It rhymes the first movie and he moves the piece with his mind in the final, final shot,
Starting point is 00:58:17 which is a great little like indication of, Hey, I know he got stabbed with that cure, but he still got something cooking in those fingers and then this movie has a post-credit scene it's often credited as the first marvel post-credit scene ever but i'm not exactly sure why because daredevil also had one so oh really the first or the second daredevil had one where it's bullseye sitting in a hospital bed i think he like kills a fly with a syringe which is kind of badass um but yeah this is at least one of the marvel movies that kicked the door open and said let's start doing post
Starting point is 00:58:52 credit scenes yep yeah the and that's like oh shit he's back to magneto so it's like it's last day but you know these motherfuckers aren't gonna kill the cash cow so i always i could never remember like i know that that uh magnetic the magneto scene does happen with like the king paul the king uh chess piece so i could never remember where it was i read too that apparently it's charles's brother who's like a vegetable it's his body he goes into that they mentioned in the beginning moira so i didn't realize that it was an xavier but that does make a little more sense you know looking back at it now it's like a confusing way of going about it the way they did it and if you're not happy about that or anything that happened in this movie i've got
Starting point is 00:59:34 some good news they made days of future past a couple years later and undid all of it basically they were like we know people weren't stoked about that so let's go back in time and make sure that doesn't happen. And we'll get to Days of Future Past in our X-Men rewatch. It's a fucking great movie, and they do a really great job with it. Even in the beginning where you see the post-apocalyptic world that the Earth has turned into because of the events of this and all of that. So I'm excited to get to that one. Matthew Vaughn, after the movie came out said he thought
Starting point is 01:00:06 it turned out pretty good for the limited time that they had to make it he said i storyboarded the whole bloody film i did the script my x3 would have been about 40 minutes longer they didn't let the emotions and the drama play into that film it just became wall-to-wall noise and drama um i would have let it breathe and i would have given more dramatic elements to it and god damn it i believe him we stay the king we stay the king and his name is matthew fucking now do you think he only goes by matthew because i like i like them guys some people going matthew some people going matt if he wants to go matthew he's matthew yeah yeah yeah i don't know though maybe he's matt vaughn to some people maybe henry Cavill is close with him at this point. You can call him Matt.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Or his family. You're like, oh, I'm going to call him. My mom calls me Matt still. So I think the next movie we'll do will be his X-Men movie, First Class. Yes. X-Men Origins Wolverine is out there, and maybe we could touch on it in our First Class thing. I don't want to do a whole podcast breaking down that movie. That movie stinks.
Starting point is 01:01:03 We could probably just do the Wolverine movies. Well, Logan is probably worthy of its own full thing so that's kind of tricky yeah no we're doing i'm not going to watch another movie until i watch a matthew vaughn movie that's my promise at home and you robert yeah um the wolverine not great the wolverine is a direct sequel to this one at at least where it's like Wolverine has to go to Japan to get away from the trauma of this movie. The first two-thirds of that movie are okay, and then they, again, it's one of those like, let's do a big CGI battle at the end.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Goes off the deep end. But the next X recap we'll do is First Class. We won't do it next week, because I think next week we should do Nerd News. We'll have a lot to catch up on, but we will announce it. So make sure you're staying tuned to the podcast. And X3, if you didn't watch it,
Starting point is 01:01:52 if you're just listening to this and maybe getting inspired to rewatch it, I do think it's worth a rewatch. I think it's fun at the very least. Yep, agreed. I'll give my MVP and LVP of this one. My MVP, I mean, I don't know if there is an MVP really. I'm just going to give it to Beast because I really like Kelsey Green.
Starting point is 01:02:15 He's like, I'm the guy who was like the fifth place finisher. Like someone gave him a first place. Yep, that was me. Beast, fuck it. LVP, the brother of Midtons. Instead of Mutes, Midtons, Mid as the kids say. So that was my way to, fuck it. LVP, the brother of mid-tints. Instead of mutes, mid-tints, mid, as the kids say. So that was my way to zing them one last time. And my fast food comparison, it's the Burger King cheeseburger.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I feel like Burger King has taken a lot of heat recently. But back in the day, I feel like it was all right. It's just taken a lot of heat these days. So the Burger King cheeseburger. My MVP of the movie i'll go wolverine because i don't think i gave him mvp in either of the previous two and he's kind of holding this together he's a little bit of the glue that holds it together and lvp i mean you nailed it with the brotherhood of mutants i'll go with uh the studio executives
Starting point is 01:03:04 that tried to force the cure storyline into this instead of the dark phoenix storyline so the studio execs will get my lvp and then i always fucking do this forget to prepare a fast food review but what's a fast food item that kind of gets shit on i think it's not bad um oh you know what i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with no i'm gonna change it this is serious you know i gotta really i'm gonna go with i was gonna say burger king fries because i feel like people don't like burger king fries burger king has some of my favorite fries in all of fast food. The crunch that they have on it. I love McDonald's fries.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Don't get me wrong. The flavor on McDonald's fries is great, but that texture on Burger King fries, I think is better than Wendy's and McDonald's. I feel like they were changing like recipes around this time too. So I'm sure it took a lot of heat. The end of the day is it's fries. You're not going to throw your fries.
Starting point is 01:04:03 It's an X-Men movie. You're going to watch it. Yeah, there you go. That was X-Men movie. You're going to watch it. Yeah. There you go. That was X-Men. The last stand. I hope you learned something from this podcast. I hope you enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I hope you laughed. Do we want to give a hashtag? Oh, by the way, I learned that the, um, the X mansion is literally 15 minutes from my house. It's on Google maps. It's 15 minutes, but it's's on google maps it's 15 minutes but it's not there obviously there's not a mansion and it's also like five minutes from like my favorite restaurant world the blazer pub in um north salem purdy's area so absolutely just love that that's nice to hear yeah what can we do uh hashtag hashtag matthew vaughn. How about that?
Starting point is 01:04:46 Hashtag Matthew Vaughn. I hope he sees some of this somehow. He's like, I got to do the basement now. We got to get Matthew Vaughn in the basement before the year's over. Just get him to hype up other people's movies for us. Go to our bookers. Be like, the only person we want is Matthew Vaughn. Who? Don't worry about it. Just get him. All right. Thank you
Starting point is 01:05:02 to everyone for tuning in. Enjoy the Super Bowl this weekend. Be safe. Thank you to everyone for tuning in. Enjoy the super bowl this weekend. Be safe. And we'll talk to you next week.

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