My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 33 - UFC 244 RECAP WITH BIG CAT

Episode Date: November 4, 2019

Big Cat joins the show this week to talk about UFC 244 with Robbie, getting into all things Nate Diaz vs Jorge Masvidal, the cut that stopped the fight, Kevin Lee's sensational head kick KO, and the "...booty hole" in Blagoy Ivanov's chest. Plus - does The Rock perhaps lift TOO MUCH?You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It was a historic night for the UFC, a historic night for Mixed Martial Arts. Obviously, if you paid attention at all to that fight, or if you're a Mixed Martial Arts fan, you know that we didn't get the ending we wanted in the main event. But we'll get to that later on. I've got Big Cat on the episode to break down the card, talk a little MMA with me, talk about what kind of fan he is. He's somewhere in between casual and hardcore, but we'll get to that later. Other than UFC this weekend, I pretty much just hung out. I watched all of Watchmen on HBO, all three episodes. And holy fuck, that show is incredible. I'm a big fan of the comic and I'm a big fan of Zack Snyder's movie, but this show is something completely different.
Starting point is 00:00:50 It's a sequel to the comic, but also like a reimagining slash, not reboot, but it takes place in the same universe as the comic, basically. It is a sequel to that, a direct sequel. It has oodles, and I mean oodles, of references back to the comic. Damon Lindelof, who created Lost and The Leftovers and all of that, is working on this, and he's a massive fan of Watchmen, the comic as well. So he really loaded this thing up with references and
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Starting point is 00:08:08 our ufc 244 recap with big cat man i'm on like two hours to three hours of sleep i was out till four in the morning last night it's sunday now because i was at madison Garden for UFC 244, and it was a giant card. The stars were out, A-list to Z-list, from President Trump to one of Phoebe's ex-boyfriends on Friends. I mean, it was a blast, and you know that it's a big card when Dan Katz is watching. I am watching. I bought it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I figured out how to buy it. I think I paid ESPN Plus like $200, but I finally figured it out. I watched the whole card. Now, there is one fight when we go through it that I'm going to plead dad sleepiness because it's fucking late, and I fell asleep. It's a long card. For the second to last fight. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:09:01 The Till fight. Yeah, yeah. Perfect. It was the worst fight on the card. Great. I bet Till, too. So not only did I win, I woke up and I won. Oh, good. The Till fight. Yeah, yeah. Perfect. It was the worst fight on the card. Great. I bet Till, too. So not only did I win, I woke up and I won. On a dog.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And I was like, holy shit, this is awesome. And a lot of people said, yeah, it wasn't a very good fight. But I bought it. I would say I'm a 10 pay-per-view a year guy. So more than just a big fight. Oh, definitely. I would say you're definitely more than the casual fan right i'm somewhere between casual and hardcore i still don't know the sport very well but i enjoy the hell out of it and uh yeah it was an awesome
Starting point is 00:09:35 i enjoyed watching all the fights that i stayed awake for i obviously stayed awake for the last one which was bullshit which i'm sure we'll get to yep but uh how why were you till four because so the press conference afterwards the event ended at like 1 30 or something like that it's like two by the time the press conference started and then everyone goes one by one now it's not like the old days where dana gets on stage with every fighter they do it all at once and it's like over so it's literally fighter by fighter and it was it was worth it because the press conferences were actually great right was dana pissed he wasn't actually dana was very rational about the whole thing he was like i was pissed in the moment and then he's like i went backstage and saw nate and looked at the cut and i was like oh fuck like that was a really really bad cut i think
Starting point is 00:10:19 he was also just thrilled with did you see the stuff that went on with the canelo fight yes where they played the nate diaz jorge masvidal fight at the mgm grand and his fans were getting so restless right and the canelo fight was like it went on till like two in the morning well they were they were waiting until the ufc card was over and they said we will not start the main event until the card is over the co-main event of that card stopped uh midway through the co-main event of UFC. So they were like fucked and they were waiting literally an hour
Starting point is 00:10:50 and the MGM had to call Dana White and ask his permission to play the UFC pay-per-view there and he was fucking thrilled. That's awesome. Okay, that's awesome. I didn't know that. So I went to bed.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Having Trump there, he was over the moon about it. Right. He loved that. And I went to bed. I actually there, he was over the moon about it. Right. He loved that. And I went to bed. I actually bet on the Canelo fight. I apparently lost by like 45. I bet under 10 and a half rounds.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So I lost by about 45 seconds. Isn't that fucking crazy how they know how to set runners for boxing fights? That's always crazy to me. But the fact that it was, and I love boxing too, but it was, at that point it was like 1.30 in the morning and i had just gotten back from chicago flying with an infant so i was like fuck this i'm not staying up for this fight but yeah i uh can we should we start with nate let's start with nate but before we even do that it's your first time in my mom's basement i appreciate you coming on the show on
Starting point is 00:11:40 barstool's kind of resident nerd podcast love it it. So just real quick, a question that I asked Caleb and Roan as well. Yeah. What makes you nerd out, Big Cat? What makes you geek out? Caleb said it was books for him. Caleb and Roan said it was like really getting into the Sixers and getting into the Eagles and the stats and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. I would say some.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Okay. So, oh, man. What makes me nerd out? So the easy answer would be just trying to find like edges when I'm betting. Like the big nerd stuff betting is like travel schedules and trying to like handicap fatigue and things like that like an NBA when teams are playing like you know five road game trip and it's like three out of five like three and five nights and like trying to figure that stuff out I always find that that's interesting and also nerdy because it's like oh you're trying to find this edge that probably isn't there and how much can you convince yourself truly that that's gonna like play an effect on the game are you fully oh yeah yeah yeah I so I'm not a nerd because I don't get the gambling thing I don't have like the gambling it. I so I'm not a nerd because I get the gambling thing. I don't have like the gambling itch, obviously. So I'm not a nerd in the traditional sense that I am. I've always been terrible at math. I'm terrible at numbers. Same. I'm good at gambling numbers, but nothing else. So like when it comes to actually trying to find statistical edges, couldn't do it. But the human side of things, I love doing that when it comes to like the crowd, travel schedules, like motivation, let down spots.
Starting point is 00:13:11 You know, if they come up, if a team comes off a big win, how motivated are they going to be to win the next game? Because I think the human element is always so fascinating to me, knowing that we just assume, especially in pro sports sports when teams we assume that everyone's playing the same every single time but that's never the case there will be many times where a team will be riding high and then they'll get kind of blindsided because you know the if you if you have success success success you probably aren't expecting the failure to come so that kind of stuff i'm big big time nerd out on I would say I nerd out on music. I have a very eclectic, and we have to do another podcast where we talk through some of the bands that you might not listen to that I do.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But I would say, yeah, the array of bands that I listen to, I like to nerd out about. I basically, I just love all music. What's been on the playlist lately, like this week, this past week? I was actually listening, yeah, this morning on the way and i was listening to vampire weekend's new album which isn't that new anymore um i have a sunday morning playlist that's like nora jones and wilco just to ease your brain you heard her album with billy joe armstrong no it's a duo album see that's my biggest problem is finding new music i have a real problem finding new music like i am the guy who will be like hey did you hear that new song and and caleb or ron will laugh
Starting point is 00:14:31 and be like yeah like six months ago dude so but yeah those are probably the the nerd out moments i'm trying to think if there's anything i'm unfortunately our i think our movie uh our movie are like what we like in movies couldn't be more different. I've never seen a Star Wars. I've never seen an Avengers. What do you like in movies? I like historical movies. I like real stories.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Do you have a favorite movie, if I put you on the spot? I don't know about favorite, but I like Goodfellas, Mafia movies. I really like that movie, The Darkest Hour like i haven't been in the movies in forever the one about churchill like i like shit like that a lot i like some tarantino stuff the you know um you see once upon i have not so that's the problem that's the biggest weakness that you get when you have a kid is that i just don't know how you have time for anything i don't go to i don't go to i haven't gone to a movie in like six months so um but yeah that kind of stuff more historical movies i you know i love um i love the batman so that's where we could probably that's where our venda diagram probably intersects is the christopher nolan batmans i love
Starting point is 00:15:40 christopher nolan movies although what's it called? The space one sucked. Interstellar. And people get mad at me, but I... You know what? I'm with you, because I really enjoyed it, and then the ending ruined the entire movie for me. See, I watched it with Hank, and I liked it, and then I watched it again like a year later, and I was like, this might be the dumbest movie I've ever seen. I didn't like the whole times the flat circle and the bookshelf. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:03 That bullshit. Yeah, that kind of stuff. The whole Matt Damon twist, that was cool. little robot that like flipped around yes the wave planet yeah right but all all the other stuff so yeah i mean there's definitely some intersecting in our um in our likes and dislikes but yeah nerding out it's probably trying to find the human edge to sports gambling all right let's get into ufc let's get into the main event right away nate diaz versus jorge masvidal for the bmf championship the baddest motherfucker in the game championship first of all the rock having the rock walk it out i it was the most visceral
Starting point is 00:16:37 reaction i've ever had i'm on press row you know it's very frowned upon to cheer to make loud noises as it is it's a little more accepted because it's like UFC. If there's a knockout, obviously everyone's going to go, oh, or something like that. Right. When his music hit, I thought I was at WrestleMania.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It was like, something clicked in my brain and I went, oh! Yes, yeah. And I was the only one around me because it wasn't a wrestling crowd. It was an MMA crowd. Right, and I'm on the record.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I mean, I was a huge, huge, huge Attitude Era wrestling fan. I've always been a stone cold guy over The Rock, but I will never sit here and be like, The Rock doesn't make it pop every time he comes out. He has that. If you're some man. Yeah. He has it. The perfect entrance intro.
Starting point is 00:17:20 He has that something that whenever he comes out, whenever he's the main focus of an event, even if it's for a minute, you're just all eyes on The Rock. My question to you is, do you think The Rock lifts too much? He can't even wear a t-shirt. I know. He was so cartoonishly large last night. He looks like Johnny Bravo or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I don't want to shame The Rock, and I'm not trying to say, like, hey, stop lifting, man. But at some point, you become those weirdo body lifters, like Mr. Olympian shit that they take the bath in that copper crap. He kind of looks like that now. So I don't know. Maybe a couple more changes. His clothes are custom made for him. Has to. The shirt was popping, maybe a couple more changes. Do you think he has to get his clothes custom made for him? He has to. Who else has his body type?
Starting point is 00:18:06 The shirt was popping, and the belt was awesome. The way he brought it out, he looked at the camera, he held it up like it was his WWE. Oh, he knows. He goes, there can be only one. He always knows. The Rock knows what he brings to an event like that. But yeah, that was awesome. The walkouts for both men were awesome.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Having Roberto Duran walk Jorge Masvidal out was incredible. There's something about Nate Diaz and that walk he does that is so intimidating. And so he was doing it in the ring too when he's just like, his shoulders, like yeah, he has his shoulders forward.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It's like a gorilla. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. It's awesome. And so I bet on nate diaz i actually we were supposed to i told you this i've been in contact with yeah we can tell the story i was in contact with nate diaz's people we're actually supposed to have him on three weeks ago when the media event was here when the pier 17 press conference yes he missed
Starting point is 00:19:00 his flight uh initially he got another one so our schedules didn't align because I think I was going out for the college football show. But we were going to have Nate Diaz on tonight on part of my take if he had won. So it didn't work out, obviously. I just talked to his guys. Like, I don't think Nate's going to make it. I was like, I understand. His face is just mangled. He's got a thousand stitches.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. So I not only bet on Nate Diaz, but I also was rooting for it because I like Nate Diaz and I wanted to have him come to the office. But yeah, do you blame New York at all? Yeah, a little bit. People were saying that. New York is very inexperienced in these events,
Starting point is 00:19:39 like as Dana was saying and all of that stuff. Right. Especially when you look back at the last Tyson Fury fight, the cut he had. Like, that was just as bad, if not worse. Right. Than the one that Nate had. And they let that continue because it was a big money fight in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And Vegas' experience, the cut man did a good job. I thought the cut man did a pretty good job with Nate, too, though. Because after the fight, you know, they put it up. And obviously, he's not fighting anymore. But there was no blood even trickling out of it. Right. And the thing I don't understand is, I mean, he was mangled almost like 15 seconds of the fight he was just leaking everywhere but how does he actually said in his post-fight pressure he goes
Starting point is 00:20:13 yeah you sneeze on me i bleed yeah he's like it doesn't matter it was so much blood right away but how does that like he got cut so early that i don't think it got significantly worse as the fight went along it felt like they just hopped in like like oh we should probably check this three rounds later yeah it's bad we're done i think it was the when he kept wiping his eye and when you see that the the issue that they stopped the fight for is if the blood's getting into the eye you could lose an eye like right now so it's that's what they were watching he kept wiping it so it's like i was really bummed in the moment obviously it's like we're, I was really bummed in the moment. Obviously, it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:45 we're talking about the baddest motherfucker in the world. Correct. And it's being stopped by a doctor. Correct. You know, you're not very badass. Not badass at all. And just the fact that, like, it felt like the moment got taken away from Jorge Masvidal.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Like, he was putting on a tremendous performance. He was incredible. The way he dropped Nate in the first round, I don't know how Nate survived it, but he, like, soccer kicked him on the way down. He was, did you also see, by the way, in the first, I think it in the first round, I don't know how Nate survived it, but he like soccer kicked him on the way down. He was. Did you also see, by the way, in the first round? I don't think Joe Rogan correctly because Joe Rogan's actually he had one moment.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I think it was a Derek Lewis fight where he had his arm twisted and it looked like he was. It looked like his arm was going to pop out. It was a crazy Joe Rogan correctly was like was like actually this is fine because it's close it's far enough away from his shoulder that his arm bend won't like hurt him too bad and i'm sitting there like i would have i would have cried i would have puked i would have tapped out i would have passed out and then it was he called it perfectly like he's pop right back up but so there was a moment in the first round i think that nate kicked masvidal in the chest and he just completely faked that he was hurt like and rogan fought it yeah he was like
Starting point is 00:21:50 oh that one got him and it's like no it didn't dude masvidal is owning him right now yeah also how great was when the fight began masvidal faking the running knee yes that was people aren't talking about that enough that was hysterical natural reaction to it like the whole rapport they had while they were fighting while they were talking to each other they were talking some shit and someone said to jorge afterwards they were like oh what were you saying back and forth and he's like we were talking shop that yeah that's man talking there well it's like oh fuck so in terms of the fight game that you hope for bad blood because that's obviously the best like when when connor andhabib, like they legitimately despise each other.
Starting point is 00:22:27 There's war, yeah. That's the number one thing you hope for. If you can't have that though, what Nate and Masvidal had was the second best and that's just like so much mutual respect that they're like, you know what? We're going to go in there. We're going to beat the fuck out of each other, but we respect the hell out of each other. Yeah, like if one of us goes out, we're fine going out to that guy. Right, right. And you could feel that.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You were exactly right. And their stories, like both raised from poverty, both raised in bad environments, literally fighting in backyards, bare-knuckle brawling, and then somehow getting the UFC to make them a custom championship that The Rock is presenting to them. Roberto Duran's walking one of them out, like at Madison Square square garden it's crazy the rise that they had yes to this point yes that's part of the reason why the fight getting stopped the way it did i was like ah fuck they worked so hard for this and now all anyone's talking about is the doctor stopped the fight right which sucked right you happen to see what nate diaz said about the rock in his post fight no what'd he say so i was asleep because hold on who's by the way this is going to be we'll just lie you can live edit this out but who is we'll keep it in who is the person who is here today the tech person andrew all right i'm gonna tell andrew because i guess
Starting point is 00:23:32 the bears game is actually on um regular tv very very uh so i'm gonna have him come in brand and change the channel but go ahead tell it so here i'll have you watch the clip live nate was kind of upset that the rock was posing with jorge afterwards and smiling and this is what he had to say about it on the west coast side mike tyson should have been here anyway he's the baddest man on the planet right he should have been the one he should have been the one over here uh i'm gonna get her on the rock huh you guys caught me under a bad time, but you know what I'm saying? The Rock's cool.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I like ballers. I like ballers. But he picked the wrong side, and he picked the other side, so he could get it too. He could get his ass whooped too, straight up. There you go.
Starting point is 00:24:18 With all due respect, he could get it too. I would take Nate against The Rock. This is why people love Nate. Yes. This is like the perfect encapsulation. He's legitimately pissed that The Rock was like smiling with Jorge Masvidal. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And then he catches himself in the moment. He's like, all right, you know what? Ballers is all right. Yeah, it's The Rock. It's The Rock. But at the same time, I'll fight The Rock. And he's serious. He'll fight The Rock.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And I would take Nate because, which is a perfect segue into this fight, Nate Diaz, as crazy as it sounds that it was stopped in the fourth round and he was bleeding everywhere and the cut and everything I actually in the and I'm sure people will correct me and say I'm so stupid but you can tell me going into the fourth round I had it as a coin flip who could win that fight not who was ahead Masvidal was very much ahead yes but Nate Diaz is the toughest motherfucker I've ever watched fight and his whole game plan is I'm going to let you kick
Starting point is 00:25:10 the shit out of me in the first three rounds and then when you're like how's this guy not dying then I will beat you up and his cardio is insane he has the most insane endurance he does these triathlons he literally swims to and from Alcatraz in shark infested waters
Starting point is 00:25:24 he was not going to tire and he said he injured his knee these triathlons he literally swims to and from alcatraz and shark infested that's crazy like he was not going to tire and he said he injured his knee like three weeks ago and couldn't run before this fight so he said he was waiting until the fourth round to turn it on because he knew he didn't have the cardio right to go pressure for five full rounds and i like watching enough nate fights you just know that it's the it's not only what he can do cardio but it's the mental aspect of if you're Jorge Masvidal and you beat up Nate Diaz the way you beat him up in the first three rounds and the guy's still standing and still coming at you that mentally has to fuck with you no matter how good you are you're like how do you beat this guy
Starting point is 00:26:00 he will not go down and he was landing some big shots in the third round yeah don't forget the second round ended with him trying to throw on a leg lock like he's so dangerous from his back you could drop him and he'll catch you in a submission two seconds yeah i love that when he just like basically just hangs out on his back and like just eats punches like i'm fine right here like i'll just hang out right here yeah so yeah i that was that was the disappointing part because if you looked at just the scorecards and you looked at just his face, you'd have been like, who cares? The fight's over after three rounds. Nate was probably going to lose. And if you had asked me to bet at that point, I probably would have taken Masvidal just because of what he did in the first three rounds.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But Nate Diaz is so deadly at the end of fights that I did feel like we got robbed. Yeah, we definitely did a little bit. Dana said he doesn't have any interest in running it back right away. Jorge says he's like, we'll run it back. He's like, maybe not next. He's like, I want the biggest money fight right now. He realizes that he's on this extraordinary run. Yeah, so explain this to me for somewhat, like we've said at the beginning, not a hardcore.
Starting point is 00:27:01 How the fuck has Masvidal lost 13 times or whatever it is it's it's really crazy he was a very like flip-floppy fighter for a long time he would he would win one lose one win one lose one people called him a journeyman and then all of a sudden something got sparked in him and dana seems to think that he's taking mma more seriously than ever that some maybe something in his training just has clicked that never did before. He trains an American top team, like widely considered the best gym in the world. Okay. And he beat Darren Till, brutal knockout over Darren Till, gets the five-second knockout over Ben Askren,
Starting point is 00:27:37 and then does this. Because I saw that. All in one year. That's one calendar year. Yeah, because I saw that. I saw his record afterwards, and I was like, like wait this guy's lost 13 times Nate's record similar to yeah Nate I understand because I feel like that's like another perfect thing about it is these these are guys that are not fighting for points you know right they're fighting to entertain the fans they're fighting to kill right they don't get the kill maybe they'll go out on
Starting point is 00:27:58 their shield and it actually also speaks to the the ability for both of them to hang tough because I always find this in fighting is like if you get the guy who's coming up and maybe he's lost once or undefeated and then he takes that first big loss, there's probably, there's like a list longer than you can imagine of fighters who were undefeated, lost,
Starting point is 00:28:19 and just never were the same. Yeah. How can you not be so like unmotivated after that? Not only that, but you just see, like you feel invincible and then someone knocks you out and you're like, wait, that's what that is? Like, fuck, I'm not doing that again. Especially with what we know now. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And all that kind of stuff. And you might be rich already because you've won a bunch. So you're like, wait, I don't know if I want to keep doing this to get my ass kicked. Yeah. Speaking of another guy that is not afraid to go out on a shield or throw hands and get his ass kicked if he wants to derrick lewis derrick did i say darren lewis no i said derrick lewis awesome derrick lewis is so fucking great so i interviewed him on monday monday before this fight so i guess last week on ufc unfiltered and immediately like the first question i was sitting next to matt sarah matt Serra was getting into a fight with his wife.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And he said, Derek, do you have any advice for me as a married man? He said, yeah, you got to make sure that dick's hitting the back of the pussy. Yeah, he said something like that. What did he say at the end of I think Joe Rogan kind of cut him off because he was both very tired, but also like he said something about sweaty hands. He said he was trying to like put his fingers in the booty hole. Yeah. Ivanov's chest because he knows he likes it raw in the ass. Yes said he was trying to put his fingers in the booty hole in Ivanov's chest because he knows he likes it raw in the ass. Yes, that was it. And the booty hole he's talking about, I saw your tweet about it.
Starting point is 00:29:32 It's so funny. It's literally, it looks like a belly button in the middle of his chest, and it's from a stab wound he got in 2012. He was stabbed in the heart, almost died, and now he just has a hole in his chest. That guy. This guy's got two belly buttons. Yeah, legit two belly buttons. And then everyone's like, yo, dude, that's a stab wound. That guy. This guy's got two belly buttons. Legit two belly buttons. And then everyone's like, yo, dude, that's a stab wound.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I was like, all right, good to know. He is. So I like Derek Lewis. I bet on him as well. And I love the way he fights. I remember watching the last time when he did the whole, I'm so hot, I want to take my pants off. And I got something to add about that in a second. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So put the Bulgarian. What's his name? Ivanov. Yeah. Blagoi Ivanov. That guy's fucking chin is insane I was like that was one of those fights you're like how is this guy standing up they're just trading there was a few times where they're standing up just trading with each other and they were all knockout punches and he just stood there and ate them I don't that's my favorite part about fighting when you see guys who just can eat punches and you're like, this is absolutely incredible, the fact that someone has a chin like this.
Starting point is 00:30:33 It was so much fun as like heavyweight MMA. Like that's what I want out of heavyweight MMA. Yes. Both of their gas tanks held up pretty goddamn well. I mean there was obviously sequences where they fell to the ground. Like I love Derek Lewis because Derek Lewis has these moments. And I was talking about this backstage too, with like a bunch of media members.
Starting point is 00:30:48 He has these moments where he just goes, fuck it in the middle of a fight. And he starts throwing these insane flurries. I thought he punched himself out in that. I think it was the second round. I think it was because he like punched himself out. Yes. We'll go grab them.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And he just fell to his back. Yes. I fell straight down. I texted my friend who's also watching. And I was like, yo, we just lost our bet. Like, he punched himself out.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And then he gets caught in that weird, like, submission where his arm is tangled, like you were talking about before. And he's the king of doing this. He gets in these horrible positions on the ground where you're like, I think he's about to, like, lose this fight. Or his arm twisted off his body. And he just stands up. He has this move where he just stands up. And those guys, like, they're so big, they look out of shape, but their flexibility is just out of this world.
Starting point is 00:31:33 It's insane to watch. So going back to the fight where he took his shorts off and he said, my balls was hot, the guy that he knocked out is fighting Greg Hardy next Saturday. Greg Hardy stepped in short notice and is accepting this fight against a russian in russia good greg hardy is going to get his ass kicked good it's definitely a fight to watch good just everyone watching listening to this podcast check that out it's the greg hardy ass whooping i love i have no idea how they're letting this happen good i think maybe
Starting point is 00:32:02 dana's just pissed about the inhaler thing, and he's like, good, go get fucking knocked out. Fuck yes. I'm ready for that. I'm ready for Greg Hardy to just get smoked in Russia. Two more fights on the main card that we could touch on before we get out of here. One, Stephen Wonderboy Thompson versus Vicente Luque. Did you watch that one?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yep. I love Stephen Wonderboy, so that's another one. I've probably seen two or three of his fights. He is- He knocked out your boy, the big rig, Johnny Hendricks. Yes, that's right. That's right. Who I did a commercial with.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That commercial is out there, right? Yeah, yeah. It's so long ago. It's so long ago. I think that was in a commercial with Johnny Hendricks. Yes, it was. Yeah, in a Reebok commercial. I don't know if it ever was on TV.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I think it was just for web, but it was a pretty funny experience. But yeah, so he, Wonderboy, the fact that he is his age, 36, I think now? And you can kind of see it. You're like, yo, man, this guy's kind of old. And he's another one where his flexibility is just insane and his ability to take punches and just stay in it. I love him. I think he's... I don't know if the...
Starting point is 00:33:10 And I love Tenacious D. I don't know if that's a very good... It's so, so not intimidating. Whatsoever. But that fits his personality. They were calling this fight the fight for the nicest motherfucker in the game championship because both of these guys are just like, I were calling this fight the fight for the nicest motherfucker in the game championship.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Because both of these guys are just like, I really don't want to hurt my opponent too bad. I just want to get the victory. I just watched. Like, every time he comes out and, you know, the Wonder Boy song starts playing, I'm like, man. I love it. I can't be less pumped up right now. I love it. How about Johnny Walker's entrance?
Starting point is 00:33:41 Did you see that coming out to New York, New York? Yeah, I saw that. I saw the clip. I missed that fight. I guess that was happening. That was the undercard, right? Yeah, it was on the previews. Did you see that coming out of New York, New York? Yeah, I saw that. I saw the clip. I missed that fight. I guess that was happening. That was the undercard, right? Yeah, it was on the previews. So I missed that one.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But yeah, I saw the clip after. That was an awesome entry. But then you get knocked out in the first round. It is tough. You can't. If I had an entrance, I would definitely change my entrance depending on how I thought I was going to do. Because if you do an entrance that is like over the top or people are going to talk about and then you get knocked out in the first round, boy, that sucks. What does that say about the entrance you constructed for Hank in his first rough and rowdy out? Oh, I knew he was going to win.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah, I knew he was going to win. What would be your walkout song if you were in the UFC? If I had to put you on the spot right now, let's say. Could you use Stone Cold Glass Shatter? Because I'd probably do that if I thought I was going to win? What would be your walkout song if you were in the UFC? If I had to put you on the spot right now, let's say – Could you use Stone Cold Glass Shatter? Because I'd probably do that if I thought I was going to win. And then if I thought I was going to lose, I would probably play – I'd probably play some like Nora Jones or something. Just to chill you out?
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah, just chill everyone out and just be like, whatever. Let's just see how this goes. All right. So Wonderboy got the win. It was a huge victory for him because, honestly, he had a few fights in a row that he either took a loss in, he got knocked out in, or he got the victory in. But it was, like, super boring, and the fans were sort of starting to be like, is he, like, starting to not be an entertaining fighter anymore? He was definitely an entertaining fighter last night. It was a very vintage performance from him.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He got the performance of the night bonus or the fight of the night bonus and the first fight on the card, Kevin Lee versus Gregor Gillespie. I counted Kevin Lee out of this fight. Kevin Lee is 27 years old. I don't know why I counted him out. He took a few losses in a row. I thought his chin was gone. I thought Gregor Gillespie was just going to grapple fuck him. Gregor Gillespie was a guy that people thought could maybe rise up and beat Habib because he's got this crazy wrestling ability.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Nope. Tell you what. He was sent to the shadow realm and I'm not sure his head has landed yet i that was such such a violent knockout because there's obviously knockouts are violent it's stupid to say it's redundant to be like hey that was a violent knockout but that was the and there's something about too when you knock someone out and they're fully standing up and then they just like their lights are out before they even get close to hitting the mat and that kick holy thank god that the cage was where it was yes because if it wasn't double knockout he would have knocked his head exactly yes cage actually sort of broke his fall and it made for some like great sunny list in muhammad ali style photos because kevin
Starting point is 00:36:01 lee like looked back at him holy shit I'll never count Kevin Lee out of fight ever again I mean they'd land a head kick like that like you're never out of a fight the head kick the head kick knockout is so impressive to watch because you're like no one can even kick like that and regular people I mean everyone you know like oh yeah I could knock someone out my fist but then to watch someone knock him out with the kick and that violence. Holy fuck. That was awesome. Think about trying to get your foot as high as it would need to land a head kick on someone. And then think about trying to get the actual power behind it to knock someone out.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I'd tear my hamstring. They showed John Anik and Joe Roy. They showed the booth. Obviously, they're sitting ringside. But they showed that video. They were all just shocked. And Megan Olivie, friend of the program, had my favorite reaction because she was looking at the monitor. And then it happened like right in front of them.
Starting point is 00:36:51 So it was just like the loudest noise. And she was stunned. Yeah. People got on her, though. They were like, what a girly reaction. You're not used to this. Oh, who the fuck cares? She's seen more than enough fights.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I promise you. Not only that. Her reaction was the same as everyone's. Right. My reaction. I was like. Yeah, right. Put my hands over my mouth. I promise you that the reaction was the same as everyone's. Right. My reaction, I was like, yeah, right. Put my hands over
Starting point is 00:37:05 my mouth. I was stunned. Not only that, but like it's no one knows how they're going to react. Also, before we get out of here, one
Starting point is 00:37:12 last thing. I had a funny moment with referee Dan Merguliotta, one of the most, you know, historic MMA referees. The one with the
Starting point is 00:37:19 long hair? No, he's the bald one. Big, big bald dude. Who's the long hair? Long hair. Oh, Herb Dean.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah. Yeah. Herb Dean. And you know, obviously um what's his nuts i'm forgetting his name now but the guy with the long beard everyone oh yeah yeah yeah yeah something um dan mergliata sitting behind me and at one point he just grabs his bag he had like a little under armor like knapsack he puts it next to me he goes i got the next fight can you watch this and i was like oh my god i'm watching dan mergliata's bag yeah so i was like, oh my God, I'm watching Dan Merkley out of his bag. So I was like, yeah, I'm watching it. He goes, it stopped. I think it was the head kick on the prelims.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It was the fighter Ronda Rousey manages, actually, Edmund. And he comes back afterwards and he's like, hey, thanks for watching my bag, man. I hit him with a, hey, great stoppage, man. I said, great stoppage. One more punch, that would have been brutal. And was he pumped?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Oh, he loved it. He was like, oh, thanks, man. I had, great stoppage. One more punch, that would have been brutal. And was he pumped? Oh, he loved it. He was like, oh, thanks, man. I had to step in. I saw the look in his eyes. You could tell he really wanted to open up about it. And then he takes a water bottle out of his bag, one of these body armor water bottles. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And he goes, hey, we get these for free all night. You want one? He gave you a water? He gave me a water. And he thought that was a cool – he was like, man, look. It was like the Mean Joe Green Coke ad. Yeah, then kid he had the kevin lee stoppage as well and he came back and he said the same thing he's like one more punch man that could have been dangerous yeah big dan that's the best all right uh one big dan to another big dan yes thank you for coming on the program we'll have to do a music episode in the future yes we have to we have to thank you for coming on the program. We'll have to do a music episode in the future. Yes, we have to. We have to. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And I'm excited. What's the next big UFC? Next month is actually massive. Three title fights on December 14th. Well, I literally gave away my entire paycheck to ESPN+. So I'm going to be watching. I think I seriously bought every UFC pay-per-view for the rest of eternity. From now until the end of time.
Starting point is 00:39:00 It was so many, like, do you want to confirm? And I was like, yup, yup, yup. And I just kept on paying money. Yeah, all right. Thank you.

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