My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 331 - DEADPOOL, X-MEN 97, AND FANTASTIC FOUR ARE HERE TO SAVE THE DAY

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

Robbie and Clem discuss the trailers for #DeadpoolWolverine, #XMen97, and #Invincible Season 2 Part 2 - PLUS the #FantasticFour casting and #MadameWeb reviews! ****************************************  Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports and a very special edition of My Mom's Basement where we have tons of nerd news to talk about. It is myself, Robbie Fox, along with my co-host, Clem Nito. Back again, because today we got the X-Men 97 trailer, a trailer, a poster. We've also got the fantastic forecast announcement to talk about. We're going to be talking Deadpool and Wolverine trailer. We're going to be talking Madam Web reviews. We're going to be talking Invincible trailer. Clem, it has been a packed week for the nerds.

Packed week for the nerds. I'm just going to go ahead and say it out of every employee at barstool this may be the longest stream of content put out this week 41 free throws that's nothing we have to come to every corner of the nerd universe which it started at the super bowl and it just kept rolling they set up the jocks are going away for football time to bring out the nerds and we're ready to rock right now, Bob. Hey, speaking of the jocks, did you happen to catch part of my take this week? They tried to talk about the Avengers yet again and they included Baby Yoda in the

Avengers who they were calling Roku. They said his real name is Roku. The streaming service and site, they put Forrest Gump in there. They put Predator in there. They put Pikachu in there. To say triggering would be an understatement. The PMT jocks need to stay off our territory. Yeah, that was so well done. I was like, God damn, those fuckers are good. They even, when they threw the Roku in there,

I was like, God damn jerks. You're not, you have no right. No right. I also blocked. I said, as triggering as it is, it's almost like the line from Glass Onion, where they're like, it's so dumb, it's brilliant. Like, you're telling me you don't want to see a conversation between Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Forrest Gump? I would pay good money to see that. Well, and then I saw your blog getting upset about it, and then you said, I don't know much about Pikachu, sorry, anime fans. And I'm like, well, it's a video game, too, and then the video game people are going to get mad at you, Bob. So you're no better than them. I was just trying to be transparent with everyone.

You know, I'm not trying to be this fake Pikachu fan when I don't know anything about Pikachu. Other than he's a detective that Ryan Gosling plays and he says, Pika Pika. And, you know, Emperor Palpatine lightning. Yeah, so. I probably sound like them talking about the Avengers. I'm a spider. Yeah, so... I probably sound like them talking about the Avengers. Yeah, that was a try to... We do have so much to get into, as you mentioned, though. So let's get right into it with the first news item of the week that we got on Sunday.

The first trailer for Deadpool 3, which is actually titled Deadpool and Wolverine. Or if you ask Hugh Jackman, it's titled Wolverine and Asshole. He put out a little, you know, fixed title on his Twitter. We got this on the Super Bowl. It was a teaser on TV, but a full trailer online. I actually saw the full trailer online before the teaser even aired. So I ran to my office. I did the reaction video and everything.

I missed it on the actual television, but I'm very, very happy with the trailer that we got. There was part of me that was a little afraid it's going to be a Super Bowl trailer. So is it going to be chock full of cameos? And remember this guy? Remember that guy? The member berries, right? It really wasn't that.

They opened with all the Deadpool franchise members, the Colossus, the Teenage Warhead, and all the characters we know and love from the Deadpool universe. But other than a little glimpse at Pyro, who I didn't even realize was Pyro at first, there's not a lot of cameos. And I like that. I like that they held stuff back and they know this movie is going to sell itself on the title alone. Hell, they didn't even really show us Wolverine. We got little glimpses of him here and there, but it wasn't like Hugh Jackman is back as Wolverine. It was just like, you know, he's he's back but we're gonna give you a little cock tease with this one we got some shadows we got some claws we got the hair but we don't actually have the guy and let alone in a costume i saw the commercial before i saw the online trailer and it was like a very quick

commercial it was like watch the full trailer online and And I'm like, you assholes Superbowl. I am overloaded in terms of stimulus overload. I have the game going on, which I care about. I have my bets. I'm trying to track, like I got the national anthem. I,

which commercial is going to be first. We have, you have your food, you have your drinks, you have kids, you have just like living. And usually you take breaks during the commercials. Well, the commercials are take breaks during the commercials.

Well, the commercials are now part of the thing. So there's just no fucking break. You take breaks during the football now, Clem. And then at halftime, you can't be like, I'm getting up at halftime because then everyone's reliving like the 2000s with all the extra shit. So it was intense. I finally got a way to see it. And I'm happy they said, hey hey go watch this online because then you get the more mature deadpool because i think one of our biggest fears going into this uh movie is that it's going to get disneyfied and the mouse is going to clip his balls and we're not going to have a bunch of

crazy stuff and then he's saying you know uh you know i'm this is my first time being pegged but disney's first time being pegged so but it's Disney's first time being pegged. So they're talking about Mickey Mouse taking a TVA baton up the ass. And I'm like, all right, this is the Wayne Wilson I want to see right now. That was such a good joke in the trailer. The fourth wall break of looking at the camera in that way that Ryan Reynolds is able to do a thousand times and he'll still make me laugh doing it. That was like a good, everyone chill out. We're still going to be Deadpool. It reassured everyone

let's go through the actual trailer kind of beat for beat because there's a lot of stuff packed into this tiny is maybe two minutes starts off with wade wilson's birthday i love he's wearing a wig he looks like ken or something and you see later the wig gets pulled off by the tva tva comes after him and matthew mcadden is probably the head of this branch, it appears. He looks like he's maybe in the Mobius role here. And if you don't know who Matthew McFadden is, it's Tom from Succession. And he's wearing a suit. Someone said it looks like they flew him from the Succession set.

Didn't even make him change. And they were like, all right, you're a TVA guy now. He is using his normal accent, though. And it seems like the TVA is maybe sending Deadpool on a mission. He looks at his costume hung up in a locker and they show him the whole MCU. You see him watching the Captain America movies

giving a salute to the TV. I love shit like that. Like I loved when they showed Loki how his future would unfold in the first episode of Loki and stuff. And I think this is the perfect opportunity to poke fun at the MCU where Deadpool could be like, ooh, that one wasn't so good about, you know, one of the movies that people don't like Thor the Dark World or some shit like that. And I think Deadpool is like the guy to if there's ever a time to poke fun at yourself, it's almost take what She-Hulk did in their finale and like times 10. Yes.

Let's break the fourth wall. That was our favorite part of She-Hulk is how they were kind of in on the joke. And then, I mean, the way she just ethered everyone at the end of the finale and then all that shit just kind of like bubbled back up in the MCU, like the following projects was unbelievable. I hate Tom Womamskans having that british accent it's just who he is but it's like that guy is forever tom to me and hearing him

not in the like fucking he's like a midwesterner too in the show in succession which is completely mind-fucked i think i heard on heavy spoilers that this character that he plays might be a, is it a, a clone of Mobius or something like that? It's, it's something like odd like that, where they are very related. But I need to see them interact. That's like, he better make it out of this movie alive.

So I could see him in Owen Wilson talking. Cause I don't know. I feel like Owen Wilson's not going to be in this based on them, giving him kind of a sendoff and Loki season two, but I don't know i feel like owen wilson's not going to be in this based on them giving him kind of a send-off in loki season two but i don't know anything's on the table in deadpool three deadpool and wolfery anything is on the table that's what i'm most excited about is anything feels on the table and we're already getting you know we have the tva being back we're showing the other Avengers movies it's like all right we're taking this fox product and he's gonna fucking get to just swim around the entire mcu and hopefully do whatever ryan reynolds wrote in that script

uh once upon a time and as our boy our king matthew vaughn once said this is going to save the mcu absolutely it's the jolt that it needs and the villain very villain, it's going to be Emma Corrin as Cassandra Nova, a.k.a. Cassandra Nova Xavier. This is Xavier's twin that he telepathically tried to kill while they were in the womb, but she survives and makes it her life mission to get revenge. So in the comics, I've seen some pictures of her. She kind of looks like a freak in some of these images, like she rebuild her body regenerates it and everything and is an evil charles xavier you give me just evil charles xavier i'm like all right sounds fucking cool it's the vince mcmahon meme well i guess don't reference that guy anymore but he oh that sucks all the memes are gonna be gone i had this from the the comic book. I had this exact thought last week.

I was like, all those gifts are gone. It's crazy. So many gifts and memes. And like, there's, there's like, I'm like, I'm thinking like, there's just no way they're ever coming back. So yeah. Yeah. So we're going to have to remake that gif of just like the sitting up interested and

then falling back on your chair with someone non-canceled and that's how i feel about this when you tell me like xavier tried to kill her in the womb and she survived that's me falling back like all right i'm in on this villain yeah and that's the other thing is like fucking i'm an xavier guy right kind of is tough when he tried to kill him granted he was a fucking i don't know are you an infant when you're not born yet or you're a fetus i guess still fetus yeah he's a fetus he doesn't know his powers maybe he does i don't know he's fucking xavier he's he is what he is i know he's probably fucking i just picture like a baby uh a baby version of him like patrick stewart yeah and like patrick stewart on a baby's body he has the accent even though he was born in like the midwest united states like because you just have to be smart if you're professor x so you have to have that fancy boy accent and stuff like that so yeah this i didn't i don't even know anything

about this character i don't remember if she i guess she was probably an x-men at some point obviously she's really the professor x i never read anything about her so i am kind of interested to see that she's that that's the villain we're getting you know supposedly with the deadpool movie one that is more uh x-men centric i suppose but i'm kind of hoping we get more than just her though i need a little more than that i need a little more a little more meat on the bone than cassandra no even though she's probably a badass motherfucker there's also some rumors that matthew mcfaden's character is going to be the true villain after all like is he sending deadpool to go prune the whole marvel universe the whole fox universe even though it shouldn't be pruned or the branches and the timelines and we're going to go back into

a lot of loki talk i think like tva talk pruning and branches and shit like that so also strap in your brain for this one you know like it's going to be a movie that's going to make you think a little bit. I believe you were going to do the double thinking there. That's why I almost did the double. I almost did it. Almost did it. But I pulled it back. Pulling up the double think.

So there's two potential big bads here that are going to be the ones running all this shit, running our boy, Tom. I'm just going to call him Tom for now. Our Tom. I can't see his last name at all. Or Cassandra going to call him Tom for now. Our Tom Longhorns. I can't see his last name at all. Or Cassandra Nova. The two people, Miss Minutes. Where's Miss Minutes, that sus little bitch?

She's, you know, back in the TVA. I don't know what kind of stunt she's pulling. And, of course, do you think, because I think, I think Deadpool, too, we kind of like, there was a lot of afterlife stuff, and he was going through all that. What if, Bob? What if? The big guy comes with the M. Mephisto!

What do you think about Mephisto? We have to get a nod. Ryan Reynolds has to give us a Mephisto reference or something, right? But is he actually going to be in ironheart i think it was where they said sasha barrett cohen is playing mephisto and aubrey plaza's maybe playing like a variant of mephisto and that's the thing if mephisto is actually coming they probably won't reference him so if if they don't reference them mephisto confirmed but if they do reference him also mephisto confirmed um we get a glimpse of wolverine from behind at one point deadpool walks into what looks like a club of some sort maybe a shady like black market poker games going on and wolverine or at least we

think based on the hair is sitting at a table you see a shot of him from behind he's wearing a white suit so people think that this is wolverine from a story called Patch, where Wolverine had to go off and do his crime fighting, but not be in the X-Men for a bit. So he went to Madripoor, shout out Jose Youngs for this information, by the way, wears an eye patch. And he says it's like a mix of Wolverine and James Bond. But it is like in the comics, it's the true Wolverine 616 and everything in this. A lot of people are speculating that'll be a Wolverine variant, possibly even played by someone like Daniel Radcliffe. People are saying, you know, Daniel Radcliffe would be a great Wolverine. I'd like to see a couple of different actors, you know, step into that mantle in the

same way that John Krasinski played Mr. Fantastic. Just give us a little taste, you know, let's see what it would be like. And there's also in the shot, he's blocking the dealer's body. A lot of people, including one of our favorite listeners, Frank, thinks that dealer could be Gambit. If he's playing cards, that's an easy layup there. Oh, shit. I didn't even, I didn't see that. Maybe Channing Tatum is Gambit, you know, finally make that happen. This is a beautiful thing for Marvel, especially in like the state that the cinematic universe is in.

You guys get to basically do like tryouts and not just like reads. You get to throw them in a fucking movie and be like, all right, now which guys did you like the best? And we'll figure out a way to put like their version of his character in the MCU moving forward. Secret Wars, whatever the hell may come out of this. And I feel like John Krasinski, I'm still shocked he's not Mr. Fantastic after his performance and the reception to it in Doctor Strange 2. I feel like that might be on him.

I think there's a chance that was offered and he was like i don't want to commit to a franchise i wouldn't i wouldn't blame i do think we're gonna get i i did think we were gonna get variants just in terms of like we have this wolverine we have obviously we've seen the suit the yellow suit wolverine um i didn't think different actors the only thing that could hurt that theory is that isn't there the rumor, like it has to be the same actor that's already played them before, or else they get like a ton of. There is a rumor about that.

I don't know the validity of it, but that is certainly being rumored. Yeah. But if you go a different guy that has somehow played these characters, you do the young professor X, the old professor X, stuff like that. That's a way to get around it.

I guess technically if it's a different character, oh this is patch patch wolverine yeah regular wolverine uh girl wolverine i wonder if that could be a thing alligator wolverine well that's a great transition to lady deadpool people think is in this trailer actually there's a shot of two hands with i think like a mini uz, and the hands have different gloves than the gloves we see Deadpool wearing. Now, Lady Deadpool is a character that exists in the comics and is also a character that Blake Lively is heavily rumored to be playing in this movie. So it would make sense to see a nice little nod, maybe even a fourth wall break of his wife is actually playing Lady Deadpool, and his wife's best friend that she was

at the super bowl with is still in the mix i think taylor swift has a real chance of being in this movie based on when they were all hanging out together with the director as well and i think this might be the spot to do it taylor swift has to get away go to madripoor to perform to the criminal underworld of the mcu and she may be the dazzler. I think she may just be Taylor Swift. I think there's a decent chance. Ryan Reynolds walks past her and he's like, I told you we were getting Taylor Swift in this movie. And it's a two second little joke,

but it's worth it for the Swifties that are all going to run to the theater to see Taylor Swift in a new movie. And that's how you break all the records, right? Like that should even be the line Ryan Reynolds is. And now we're going to break Endgame's record. And take that bitch James Cameron down with his avatar with the asterisk next to it.

I mean, at this point, it would be silly for Taylor Swift. Everything she touches turns to solid platinum with diamond crusted, you know, whatever on it. So it would be honestly crazy because this is, this is, I mean, obviously the biggest mcu movie of the year this has to be like one of the most hype movies of 2024 i don't even know what is even oh definitely i would say definitely and with your pals your pals are all there and i love the idea i i wrote in the blog something it was one of the deadpool uh trailers or something i said

it would be i said i want the same actress that plays Vanessa to be Vanessa in all of the different worlds, except maybe a couple of Blake Lively's, but Blake Lively being Lady Deadpool would be a cool little like nod to the audience. So I could take that and say, give me Blake Lively. I fucking love Blake Lively.

She's great. And I feel like she hasn't been in anything recently. So I really want to see her as Lady Deadpool. I think that'd be awesome. She'd be bad-ass as Lady Deadpool with fucking fucking Uzis shooting up the Madripoor Club. I'm in. And Taylor Swift doesn't have to do much. She kind of just, you know, you see her at the concert or whatever, you give a little pan to the camera, and then it's like, oh, shit, that just happened.

Yeah. And then you could also set her up for if she ever wants to down the line, do her own Dazzler movie. Boom. There was the origin there. her own Dazzler movie. Boom. There was the origin there. She is doing a movie after her tour. So Taylor Swift is like wrote a movie and is going to direct it afterwards. So I'm interested in what that's going to be like. Probably like one.

I know she did the all too well, like 30 minute music video. Maybe it's just an extended version of that. She writes like an hour and a half version of all too well. Remember my very short lived thing where I was going to try to get all the, um, shoot. What's the name of the Korean boy band? B2B.

Yes. Yeah. I like was like the basement boys. We're going to, we just have to market to the Swifties. That's the way to go. There's a language barrier. I don't hashtags work all different.

The fucking half a time zone away, half a world away in terms of time zone. We just have to be in the Swifty nerd podcast, get them here. And that's how the lights will stay on forever. You see all the tweets of like people explaining football to Swifties this season. That'll be us with the MCU. We'll almost be like, is it Lewis and Ant-Man? It's like, okay, here's the story and he gets the whiteboard out and shit.

We'll get our own whiteboard. It's kind of like our bridge in between. She kind of has the nerds and the Swifties together. She taught us about Tom Hiddleston and the Loki and the getaway car and all that. Go back and listen to our Loki podcast. We like Tom Hiddleston. You guys like Tom Hiddleston. We're going to say.

There's an awesome reloading shot in the trailer where he fucking throws the mags up and just has them fall into the gun in slow motion. Everyone's freaking out about that shot,fully so it's amazing we see aliath ripping a tva agent up from his knees into the sky this makes me think maybe we'll get some ravona from loki because if you remember the last thing she saw in season two the last we saw of ravona was her staring down aliath you saw the like purple glow on her face and her and elia have like a connection in the comics like i think she's able to control him so i think we might get some more loki times than we expect with this i don't think we'll get loki himself but i think we'll get ravonna rentslayer yeah and if they're in the void which the 20th century fox uh like logo in the void was such a nice little twist.

That's great. Hopefully they walk past the Thanos copter and we know that's in the void already and we've seen it, so we don't need it, but that's just a great gag. The golden gate bridge from X-Men three, the last stand is also in the void. So thank God we just recapped that.

You can go back and reminisce on X three, the last stand. Yeah. Check it out. Uh, we've we're ahead of the goddamn curve on all this and we have a lot more to cover before. back and reminisce on X3, the last stand. Yeah, check it out. We're ahead of the goddamn curve on all this, and we have a lot more to cover before. It's all for this goddamn movie right now.

Yeah, it is. It's all in the hype to Deadpool 3. We see Aaron Stanford back as Pyro. Did you even realize this was Pyro at first? He looks so different. Obviously, he's been 20 years. He was a kid. Now he's a full-grown adult. I love that they're bringing him in in but what a random cameo to be the you know the sole cameo in this trailer

bob i didn't i don't even remember seeing him in the trailer when you sent me the text oh my god i was like oh that guy was in it didn't even know that was it and i sure as hell wouldn't have known that was pyro if i saw him so yeah i was that one completely this fucking this whole entire uh trailer was just nothing but Easter eggs. And, you know, people are doing 40 minute breakdowns of them. Like,

God damn it. It's crazy. And again, this is just the two minute trailer for the movie. That's going to have fucking carte blanche on the entire MCU. Hopefully. And we also get speaking of references, a secret wars comic it's Secret Wars 5 in the void.

And the Hulk soda that killed Stan Lee in The Incredible Hulk, like a bottle of that soda that he opened, drank, drops it in the whole scene. It's just sitting there with Secret Wars. So we're getting a little Hulk tease in this movie. Is that a Hulk tease? Is that just like a, oh, remember that from the MCU? Also Secret Wars. We know that this is going to kind of set up how much is it going to set up secret wars i wonder is it going to full

on introduce battle world and shit like that or is it just going to give us like okay now all the universes are connected what next i don't know yeah i i have no i have no clue i feel like jose is the guy who would have to nuance and pick that apart, but he doesn't know as much about the movies that have been going on, so I don't know if there's anything missing there. I think I read online that that issue of Secret Wars was

Doctor Doom's first appearance in the Secret Wars, so is that a dot? Some people thought they saw Doom in the trailer. Did you see people speculating about that? What? People thought they saw Doctor doom in the trailer did you see people speculating about that what people thought they saw dr doom in the trailer but like i think it was very clearly not dr doom that's like a bitch-ass dr doom the guy i don't think i don't think we're seeing doc he looks he looks like someone that would get casuals like me and you'd be like that might be dr doom and it's like we now know enough

about the way this game works they would never do that he's holding a fucking machine gun just as like a he does kind of a metal face whatever this guy's deal is but someone said he's zach snyder's dr doom it does kind of look like a snyder verse version that's good um and then the to cap the trailer off, you get that Wolverine silhouette, hit the claws, and he goes to pick Deadpool up. I love that they didn't show him, even though we know what he looks like, because I think the impact of Wolverine back and saying something, I think they're going to show him in the next trailer, and it's going to be like a Chewie, we're home moment, where we haven't seen Hugh

Jackman as Wolverine in a few years since Logan, and it's going to be like, oh we're home moment where we haven't seen Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in a few years since Logan and it's going to be like oh fuck he's really back moment um you do I will skipping ahead you get a Wolverine moment in the X-Men 97 trailer just him saying bub I was just like yeah just goes deep in the nerdy soul you just feel that like bub just pop off down down there yeah no i mean i i and like the way that they'll do the like deadpool and wolverine it'll be very crazy remember when they just announced it and they were doing the thing and they were kind of like you gotta get the lip readers out they see what they were saying and all that stuff i'm very i would almost love it if because the way they revealed the wolverine with the the shadow but it kind of like it's deadpool shadow but then it's wolverine but it almost looks

like it's someone morphing that's like is that mystique doing all this shit so i kind of like if this was all just one giant redirect and they just completely fucking they fucked with us here and we find out when we watch the movie it's like oh no that wasn't the wolverine it was someone else completely different i would love to see that i i can't wait to see wolverine's mask as well every leaker and rumor person on the internet is like oh he's wearing the mask in this movie and it's awesome the mask i love the mask the wolverine mask might be the thing that like really drew me on the first the practicality of the mask however it never made sense and there's a chance that like it's going to make even less sense when you see like why does he have wings yeah like i picture him hitting the wings on every door like mincy

with the dunce cap just like nine door frames in a row he's hitting the wings on god damn well i guess that's why he shows so short you know know, he can afford the way. That's probably him trying to look taller. Right. He's like, I'm with the mask. It's like a short king move. I mean, you know, nothing but nothing but respect to the short kings out there. The DMV in his mask makes them count that. The one other thing I loved about this trailer, we talked about it with the pegging line.

I think there's some cursing right and then the blood it's like i don't want to feel like i am watching a baby version of deadpool and it doesn't seem like we're gonna get that the the olds like me will know back in the day growing up sega genesis was the system that had the blood nintendo was the one super nintendo did not have the blood and you're playing super playing Super Nintendo, you're like, what is this fucking baby version? Disney has to like let the blood rip, especially with all the other fucking superhero franchises that are about to be coming into our lives again in the coming months here.

We can't be watching Invincible and the boys and then being like, and Deadpool, there wasn't a drop of blood the entire fucking time. I was very happy to see that in the trailer, no less, which I think they kind of avoid that if they can for the most part. Yeah, unless it's like a Red Band trailer, they'll usually avoid that. But there's that one shot of him in the backseat of a car kind of just lounging, and it looks like the fucking car from the beginning of Reservoir Dogs. It's like a white interior and blood everywhere.

Also, the one thing that I forgot to mention a lot of people are speculating that he's going to be going back to age of ultron because he's in a snowy forest i've seen all the side by sides and i could see it i'm not denying that that'll happen it might just be a snowy forest though like that's as far as the comparisons go it's like it's a forest and it's snowy so i'm not sure that's confirmed age of ultron yet kind of looks like where the battle of the bulge took place when i was watching band of brothers so it could be that as well so let's just start band of brothers yeah yeah um that was it for the deadpool and wolverine trailer though we got a couple posters as well there's a poster of their

hands doing this and there's a poster of like a a necklace or a bracelet that connect and blake lively was actually wearing that bracelet at the super bowl yeah that's that's a poster of like a necklace or a bracelet that connect. And Blake Lively was actually wearing that bracelet at the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a nice little nod. It was also funny of Ryan Reynolds to post a picture of him on his TV. And he's like, by the way, has anyone seen my wife? The next massive Marvel news. It was honestly the week of Marvel being like, hey, Fox, we've got these fucking characters in good hands now because they gave us a fantastic four cast announcement and it was a very unique way of going about announcing the cast yesterday as we record this on valentine's day they just dropped

like uh artwork basically with the four of them as the fantastic four so it's pedro pascal as reed richards mr. We expected that. Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm, Invisible Woman, another one that was rumored longer than anyone, actually. And then the final two, once again, the rumored castmates, Joseph Quinn, Eddie from Stranger Things as Johnny Storm, the Human Torch, and Ebon Moss-Bachrach as Ben Grimm, the Thing. And I love the way they kind of showed him. They put the image of him as an astronaut before he turned into the thing. And then he's sitting there as the thing.

He's reading a Life magazine that eagle-eyed viewers have realized is from 1963. And we know that this is a throwback movie based on the aesthetic. They hired Matt Shackman from WandaVision to do it. So I think that could mean this movie's a 1963 movie. Pedro posted the image with All You Need Is Love by the Beatles. That's a 1967 release. I don't want to read too into it and say it's going to take place between 63 and 67, because All You Need Is Love could have just been a Valentine's Day thing you thought of as well. But I'm very, very excited and intrigued

by the 60s aspect. Like even in their suits and the artwork, it looks like they're like wool suits. It looks very old throwback. The font that they're using is great. Jose responded to my tweet right away. He said, don't forget to shout out Herbie. That's the robot who I don't know a ton about. I assume Jose does and he'll come on and inform us. I'm just picturing this robot right now as the robot from Rocky four. Happy birthday, Pauly. Happy birthday, Pauly.

I think I was watching an ep, a version of Rocky where they cut the robot scenes out or something like that. Are they like, there's a Rocky four where they cut that shit out. I think Stallone went back and did like the stallone cut uh i i loved that they're being different with it here where we're not just going to be like all right just another just plop some more people into the mcu in the current day we go back in a weird way i was trying to figure this out i feel like you could have they existed

in this universe. If that's what happens, the, you know, the six one six or whatever, they get shot out of the space, forgotten about. We have some crazy time stuff that goes on and then they come back to

present day. And maybe we even get the shout out of what was the line from Wanda vision. We're all fucking losing our marbles about it. The line from Wanda. Oh, the, the aerospace engineer engineer so maybe

somehow some way that all connects shout out to our guy cousin forgetting you know the cousin thing cousin thing yeah exactly that guy i hated him in season one of the bear because he does a good job it's not like i hated the actor then we saw him in andor and i'm like oh this fucking guy and then obviously in season two of the bear awesome has a great like arc and now it's like i'd die for for i'd die for him almost over over anybody and so you're pedro pascal beloved he's fucking in every goddamn big franchise we have our boy cousin i think i'm how i feel about him pretty consistent right vanessa kirby I don't know Vanessa Kirby. However, I feel like she had some viral interview moment that went crazy viral a few years ago from Mission Impossible. I think Hubs told me she's awesome.

She's lights out in Mission Impossible. Really good. Crushes it. And looks the part. The pictures of her next to the comic versions of Sue Storm. It's like that is perfect casting. Okay. And then our boy.

The one kind of question mark in all this is our boy Eddie Munson, right? Our boy from Stranger Things. And if that's the guy I have to worry about, I'm just going to say he's going to do a good job there. I have to believe it. It's just because I want to, to be honest. I hated how he got a role i'm not going to spoil things in from stranger things i just think the actor got a real deal and i feel like being a part of the fucking fantastic four is a good like prize when it's

all said and done here so i feel like we have four actors that everyone likes and i feel like are good it's like man between this and the and the Deadpool, we were riding a fucking hot streak. And thank God that we wound up with such a great cast, considering this was seemingly offered and turned down by so many people prior. Adam Driver was in the mix for Mr. Fantastic, and Margot Robbie was in the mix for Sue Storm, and they were throwing out A-list names every other week, saying they're in the mix, they're in talks, whatever.

We've wound up with a very good cast, a cast that I'm very happy about. People were also pointing out the line from Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness when Reed Richards shows up. I think Doctor Strange looks at him. He's like, oh, you guys charted in the 60s, right? So he's already like one step ahead of us there and the comparisons of the logo that was released when john watts was the director who i love john watts people shit on him now for the spider-man movies which the revisionist history there is bullshit but the logo difference is crazy the logo was just a generic four it looked like any other mcu thing now it looks like it's

a fucking old soda machine or something. Like I love a nice vintage aesthetic and they nailed it with this. So everything I've seen from Fantastic Four has made me very excited. I'm very optimistic. I'm almost cautiously optimistic about all this stuff because I feel too optimistic about all of it. Like the horizon of the MCU being Deadpool, the Fantastic Four and the X-Men.

I'm fucking excited again. I wish this is what we got after endgame was these are the big three yeah and like we would have had to have stuff where it's like or we have to deal with the fallout of endgame and all that kind of stuff we can't just plug a bunch of new shit in like this stuff in spider-man that'd be great yep yep but i i am very excited that it's a different period um in terms of the 60s and like i like the way they did that with wandavision even though they every they changed the decade every episode i like the way they did it it was well done as it was now this is my question to you rob fox what do you want in terms of villain for this movie? Ooh, like, do you go Galactus right away?

Cause that's also something you'll have to explain away. If you go Galactus, like did people just not know of them in the sixties? Were they in space with them in the sixties? Like, is he getting frozen and brought back or is he going in a time machine and getting brought back? However, they'll wind up bringing the fantastic four into the equation. I feel like you might save doom and do someone else even if it's not galactus i don't think i think you give a tease of doom in the first one but put him off in the same way that nolan put off the joker you know go with like the rajah ghoul of the fantastic four and then bring

him in in the next one and have us be like oh fuck doom's here yeah that's that's that's fair especially when you have all these other now the question is with all the other connected parts when do you have to get doom in maybe have doom as the villain and win and set up secret wars in that way that could be interesting yeah maybe the fantastic four wins the battle but they don't know that he's about to win the war yeah starting the Starting the war or whatever. He gets away at the end and he gets away to like modern day. And they're like, whoa, how the fuck did that happen?

Something like that. Like, so you said Galactus, I think like silver surfer is a whole other thing. And this is the thing. They want to probably avoid since they already have the other two movies, even though it's not the Marvel studio. Right.

But silver surfers obviously involved with them as well um and dunk in that movie too you know it stinks too i feel like if it was a if secret invasion never happened they could have potentially done some scroll stuff right yeah if i see scrolls i going to have bad flashbacks. Trigger warning. That goddamn Drax arm. That's my fucking trigger warning with Emilia Clarke on it. Maybe even the Fantastic Four straight up beats Doom, but it's like they hit him with this fucking raid device and he just disappears and they're like, where'd he go?

And it's like they beat him, but they were the ones that banished him to modern day. So they got to come back and fix it with the Avengers and the X-Men. There's good ways they could set that up. But it's another one where it's like you have to nail the Fantastic Four because they haven't nailed. They've tried it twice now. 2005 was the original movie, which I really liked at the time. I was seven years old when it came out.

It was perfect for me. Looking back, obviously not great, and The Rise of the Silver Surfer was even worse. Then the next one of Miles Teller, it was a movie I couldn't make it through. I watched certain scenes here and there. I tried from the beginning once, and I was just like, yeah, this isn't for me.

I'm not doing this. That's not good. And that was a good if bob fox that was a good cast too they did pretty good casting i thought miles teller um what's her name kate mara was invisible woman i think but oh they put her in the worst wig ever for reshoots so you can tell every scene that's a reshoot and every scene that's not yeah it's that's bad you have to nail fantastic for marvel but i think they know that i'm pretty sure they know that. I don't know if they have any experience with this film, but what if

Mephisto? It's crazy that we were leaning on that guy for like two years just to make an appearance ever since two years four years ago or whatever. Oh my god. We were all locked in our houses losing our fucking mind. No wonder why.

To be fair, if we rewatched WandaVision, those first few episodes, in between the floor paneling, remember with the cartoon? They had all these little hints of all these other characters, and then just nothing came out. There was a devil in a church somewhere. We saw a devil in the stained glass.

I don't even think that was WandaVision. It might have been a different show, but every show for a long stretch we were like all right this one's got to be the the mephisto one right i think the execs at marvel were like the fuck somebody get mephisto in the story they want mephisto get him in there we got right on the board didn't even get the real quick silver when it was all said and done they tease us with quick silver his literal fucking brother shows up and it was a fucking boner joke. God, we're on to the new MCU. I said it in the other block. Positive vibes only.

Positive vibes only. We're on a winning streak right now. We're doing good. Everything's good. I'll bring the positive vibes right now by saying we're moving on to the X-Men 97 trailer, which dropped this morning. And, oh, my God. It is the perfect trailer and poster for a show like this with

the nostalgic ass audience that it has we all know the nerds there's nothing a nerd loves more than nostalgia and a little fan service and they gave it to us with this they zoom in on the tv watching the x-men finale of the animated series. There's a Colossus action figure leaning up against the TV, and then it goes into Marvel animation. The actual animation of the show, the improvements they've made, look awesome because it still looks like X-Men, the animated series. They didn't go with a Pixar-style 3D animation cartoon. It looks like what we know and love, but it's just a little bit cleaner, a little bit smoother on the lines. It reminds me of DC animated stuff, to be honest.

Do you agree? Yeah, that's a fair comparison. And I like back in the day, in the 90s, this cartoon looks so fucking clean, like the old version of it. And I never in my head thought like, oh, it's going to they're going to improve upon. I was like, oh, they're just going to kind of just run it back. Right. And I'm like, oh, fuck. They cleaned it up. They kind of just like they they kept it they were fair to the original but they crisp crisped it up with modern technology i'm like damn that's fucking and now they can do everything else with it too they can just make it

that much better and i i got fucking even more stoked but by the way i had no idea this was coming today it was not i don't think any of us did like 9 a.m too it's early like on my way to work and i'm like oh my god oh my god i texted the group chat i was like x-men trailer it's out now everyone watch it so i i was like getting all the stuff i just got on the kids at school so i'm like getting the blog all all work and i'm just like scheduling stuff and i just see on my phone it's like blood come tears everything's coming out of it i think you wrote that i was like i don't know i didn't say blood blood was not involved let me read the text i sent the group chat because it's an awesome trailer they show like the finale xavier dying you know dying he's

not really dead in the finale goes off to the shiar world to heal and everything but they show the funeral storm is given a voiceover it's showing some like mutants being hunted down magneto talking to the united nations and then that fucking sweet ass theme hits and it hits like crack and the second that theme hits let me find my group chat to the quad squad here i said chills tears come all of the body bodily fluid when that hits and that's how i felt i was like in the back of an uber like that driver's like you okay for the record i said x-men trailer he said i understand buddy i understand let it fly everything about it though there's little

references in it too you see a newspaper that's the daily bugle and it references both peter parker and eddie brock so it's like oh interesting can you bring the x-men animated characters into this somehow you see like i said an xavier funeral but we know that he's probably going to be back at some point um sentinels gene gray is pregnant we're gonna have a baby you see scott with the hand on the stomach is there going to be any implications that like hey is that his baby is that wol Wolverine's baby? Whose baby's coming out of Jean gray and Cyclops hits the iconic Xavier line to me,

my X-Men at the end showing, you know, Xavier's moved on Scott stepping up. Everything about it is awesome. And it ends with Magneto being like everything Xavier built is now in my hands. Like he's entrusted everything to me. So we're going to get a cool X2 version of the team with Magneto leading the

X-Men in some way. And the VHS poster they put out nostalgia overload. So good. Just seeing whenever I would see the Ken Jack stack of VHS is I just want to just touch them. Be like, ah, those are the good old days right there. Even though it sucked. It sucked.

Right into the times you live in It sucked. Even DVDs were cool on paper, but you had to find it, you had to get up, you had to switch it. Now you just do everything on your fucker mode. It's heavenly, other than the occasional we're just going to yoink this from the service and you can't find it anymore. But, yeah, I mean, you said it all, man. The fact that

we're going to have the Magneto leading the X-Men, potentially, just right off the bat it seems uh when fucking gambit charge wolverine's claws up i'm like how has i've never seen that before that's fucking oh there's just so many fun ways we could take it uh cable potentially being in the bedroom and and stuff like that i don't remember i remember mr sinister was a part of the old cartoons for sure. I remember I just watched them with AJ the other day because he fucking, Mr. Sinister is like his favorite toy he has. I'm like, that's creepy, AJ. I think he's going to be a big part of this.

What? The rumors are that he's going to be a big part of this. And that makes perfect sense and i was saying i wouldn't even want him to be a big part of the movies moving forward because i think we've been magneto the fuck out as we're gonna see in every single x-men stream we do magneto's like the other guy on the other side of the equation there uh but i mean i was jose with the heavy breathing i was watching it like jose was too he texted me about it did he yeah he he said everything about he says he's more excited for this than deadpool even whoa yeah i imagine he probably watched the cartoon oh yeah i watched all the cartoons back in the day i still can't believe jose was this

diehard x-men fan i had no idea this entire time and it's probably one of the best actual comic adaptations of any superhero content because they actually followed the shit very closely yeah for the most part and that's why i'm like do whatever you guys want to do like overwrite all the other shit the movies did if you want to do just redo it in cartoon form also the marvel animation like i feel like that's going to be a big thing we've already touched on some spider-man i imagine sony i wonder if if Sony has the rights to that or if that's something Marvel, I wonder how that works in terms of live action versus cartoons

because Bob, I know you were a Spider-Man cartoon fan back in the day. I was. And you get that into the Marvel Animation Studios. And at this point, Marvel Animation Studios is not high in the base employees list after the what ifs. No. But did you see that?

I think it was, um, someone tweeted out the X-Men are rumored to be in season three. So season three is already better than season two in my mind, other than the happy Hogan episode. And I know they got that Spider-Man show coming to, it was going to be freshman year, but I think they would be fucked the timeline on that. And they were like,

we're not doing that anymore it's going to be your friendly neighborhood spider-man that's just going to be the only which i'm fine with like don't don't force the freshman year thing and then we're going to have to be like wait he was spider-man when his freshman year was he a sophomore in civil war just friendly neighborhood spider-man give us fun adventures of him going around queens maybe even in the suit that he made himself i'd like to see a lot of that version of Spider-Man, you know, before Tony Stark ever met him. In Marvel animation, if they can too,

bring back the juggernaut bitch. Just bring that back and do it all over again, because it was so fucking good. I mean, again, you're going to have to change a couple of lines that are definitely problematic in 2024. But man, that fucking thing is so goddamn funny. I watched it after our last rewatch too again

also i've got some news from the x-men update twitter account x-men updates which great great follow but i'm not too happy with them because during the super bowl they tweeted the trailers out way before it was out and then tweeted like haha just trolling it's like oh no no if you're gonna run the x-men update account you better have the fucking legitimacy of cnn when you tweet like you better have news like fucking locked in or fox whoever you like i'm not saying cnn's legitimate you know what i'm fucking saying the news oh no oh no but i have some tweets from them that i want to read because they're interesting so this guy theo james an actor the White Lotus, is set to star in X-Men 97 as a fan favorite character. And he says it will surprise people. A lot of people are speculating that he will be doing the voice of Mr. Sinister himself.

And then as far as the original cast, some of them are playing hot potato with their characters. So the original voice of Jean Grey, Catherine Disher, is now voicing a character called Dr. Valerie Cooper, who is up to no good. The original Gambit is now voicing Cable. The original Cable is now voicing the Executioner. There's some new voices in there. I'm a little confused about that. it like they're i mean it's been 20 years more than that so have their voices changed to the level where they're like i can't hit that pitch anymore are they just saying we want to keep them involved but want to get new i don't know so i read all that and i was like yeah that's kind of weird i that yeah i didn't understand

that i saw only like one or two of them were switching. And I'm like, I'd rather just have someone altogether new than anything else. Unless you say like Gambit was one of the guys that was like, that was one of my favorite parts was his voice. And I thought that's what really brought the character to life. Gambit and my guy beast who we talked about last episode. And just here like, Oh no, Gambit's still around.

He just cable now. Like what? And Gambit's got a new voice. So this guy, AJ Lacascio will no, Gambit's still around. He's just Cable now. Like, what? And Gambit's got a new voice. So this guy, AJ Lacascio, will now voice Gambit. How do you spell the end of his Lacascio? There's an X there. No, no X, unfortunately. Don't like it.

Needs to have it. I'm talking not because X-Men. I need some fucking deep Cajun fucking, you know, ran in the same circles as Mincy. LeBeau, yeah. Remy LeBeau, yeah. Oh, me and him used to, you know, play on LeBeau and win all the time. Oh, and Mincy is such a poker

guy. Oh my God, what if Mincy just plays Gambit in the MCU? We need that. Someone Photoshop that, please. Man, you know, Robe, I just really like you. You're a real good guy, but I just can't touch you. I Photoshop that, please. You know, Robe, I'm just really lucky. You're a real good guy, but I just can't touch you. I can't touch you. And if I touch you, I'm gonna

die. It's terrible. I'm gonna play Mincy in the X-Men series, even though I have a better Mincy impression. I can't do it with this Magneto helmet on, because I've been locked in my own emotions this entire fucking time. I can't with this helmet i can take it off and then you can drink a glass of water it sucks that's part of the part of the reason he was a villain probably

he was like this fucking sucks man i gotta wear this helmet all the time so my mind can't get read by my arch nemesis i can't fucking take a sip of water i love mince's gambit though i just want to see you know one of those politicians propose an anti-mutant bill and him hit a what the hell mincy as patrick mahomes as gambit um speaking of animated trailers we got the trailer for invincible season two today or season two part two you know returning after their season long break returning in march very good trailer we got some stuff with the the bug race they're going off to the bug planet i forget what's called mork mork and mindy something like that oh planet i think it's just called bug

planet bug planet we're getting a lot of blood and guts at the end. We were seeing guns, fucking people in half and shit. We got his dad getting roasted by his home race. People that are like, you had a moment of weakness on earth. Omni man. What the fuck was that?

Yeah. Like there's a lot of good in this trailer. A lot. I don't want to say more of the same, but in a good way. You know, it just seems like, all right, this is the Invincible we know and love. No like bombshell drops, at least in my opinion. I'm sure the bombshell will drop in the finale or penultimate episode. But yeah, they're not going to give us more than that.

This is one thing about Invincible that I think happens in Invincible more than even the boys, which I think Gen V got a little like this. There's just so much blood and craziness. It is almost like an overload to me where I'm just like, oh, you almost get numb to it. Yeah. This guy just got eaten alive by a fucking monster from another planet. There's blood in his mom and wife. Watch it all go down. And I'm like, it just numbs your soul at some point because it's so

fucking sick and twisted so that trailer got pretty gnarly and i'm just like and that i i stopped watching after episode one because i was like that was so fucked up i don't think i'll back and you assholes brought me right back into it and i've waited like six months now to get the rest of season two but that being said it's fucking good it's it's i think out of okay let's just do this we'll do this live on the fly here x-men animated this uh invincible season two the boys excitement level for the three of them in in order oh this is tough i'm gonna go x-men 97 first because it's been so long and it's such an unknown then i'm gonna go with the boys because i just love the boys and invincible i think i've mentioned this in the past i love invincible i'm not like as into invincible as i

am the boys or a live action show like that there is a little element of it that i think might be taken away from being a cartoon which pains me to say cartoons are some of my favorite shows of all time but there is just a little emotional disconnect with it no i'm i have the same by the way i do have the same order of you as you and i will say like if x-men it was like season three and we're just kind of just dealing with whatever instead of first time forever i might have it too probably because the live action versus the comic book and also i didn't read any invincible comic books where this is so like from the pages it feels like it's been ripped out of so it is like a different uh thing

there by the way did you see that that this morph is completely different than the morph of last season or last X-Men? No. He is like a gray blob of a face. He has no expression that I saw. And they said he's non-binary. And I'm like, people are going to be so pissed at that. But he's fucking

morph. Of course he's not. Yeah. But you use that phrasing and people are are going to be like it's a woke show Fuck it The guy that Can turn into anything doesn't know His gender or what the fuck he is It's like yeah of course he doesn't man

I saw Bishop but that shit Is taken so out of the comic books It feels like I'm watching a Like living comic book more Than a cartoon if that makes sense I'm still excited for Invincible uh but out of the three which I mean we're just getting it it was a fucking it's a desert right now in nerd land we are about to get a fucking oasis upon oasis starting in March and it's going through the summer through the dragon time

dude through 2025 I saw someone post today 2025 is gonna have superman legacy the batman part 2 and like fantastic four some fucking maybe some x-men shit depending on what gets released around then captain america brave new world i think is 2025 there's a lot of good shit in 2025 like as long as the basement keeps the lights until then, we might be Mr. Beast level by 2026. That's it's so funny too. Cause like, it'll be all this stuff that was the only Marvel stuff we had for years.

We'll then be like the Phillip. Oh yeah. That's coming out. That's coming out. But X-Men fantastic for, you know, and all this other shit, James guns,

DCU. There's so many fucking heavy hitters that are just new and fresh, which again, it feels like the MCU is back. And it's thanks to three projects that weren't even in the MCU when fucking Endgame became Endgame, right? You know, blew it up. Yeah, well, sometimes if a roster is not, you know, delivering, you got to make some new signings.

You got to sign some free agents and get them on the squad and see if they could turn things around, you've got to make some new signings. You've got to sign some free agents and get them on the squad and see if they could turn things around. They fucking are doing that. Also, Invincible. One of my favorite characters in Invincible that I would love a prequel episode about. They did the Adam Eve episode

and we kind of got an Alan the Alien episode this season. I would love a prequel episode on Damian Darkblood. The investigator. Clancy Brown does his voice. So good. So good. I have to kind of like do a hopefully they'll have a little, I imagine they will.

They're very good about something that's not a refresher. Like a little five minute, like this is what happened. I love this. Sometimes they put them out on their YouTube too. Oh really? Not the twins, the clones. I love the clone guys. They're just getting into too. Oh really? The, not the twins, the clones. I love the clone guys. They're just getting into this shit. Um,

there's a lot of good characters now for anyone that hasn't watched. It took me like a bunch of convincing. I think, no, I told KFC if he saw, watch Ninja turtles, I would watch the entire fucking series of, of invincible.

So it didn't take a lot of arm twisting, which was a completely unfair trade, by the way in terms of time but it it's well you made the trip and listen you guys are gonna have no fucking time to re-watch it if you don't watch it in like the next month because again all this shit's coming out every fucking week are we in currently this desert is it because of the writer's strike at all or is there another gap i don't think so it feels too quick right for the writer's strike there might or is there another gap i don't think so it feels too quick right for

the writer's strike there might be another gap but that gap might be like 2026 that's future us yeah that's a future us problem if the basement still don't gotta worry about it yeah all right and then the final news item i've got here is madame webb is out the reviews are out people are talking about it and the reviews are exactly what we thought they would be basically it debuted to 23 on rotten tomatoes and it has dropped to 15 already it's now tied with morbius which didn't get great reviews i blogged it there's a couple uh there's a couple tidbits i'll read here sean o'connell says yeah madam webb is somehow worse than you feared one of the worst movies ever made in any genre. Story makes absolutely no sense.

The action is boring with barely any cape stuff. Superhero stuff, I assume. Dakota Johnson looks as bored as you'll feel. It makes Morbius look like the Dark Knight. That's really tough to hear. This one I liked a lot.ame webb is the movie i've waited my whole life for i laughed i cried i cheered like hell was it good no not at all it was awful and at times genuinely angered me but this lady sony this latest sony verse adventure shows there's still some life in the movies it's the most confusing review i've ever read because i think it's a positive review and the guy's like, it's the worst movie ever. Go see it.

Madam Web is the worst comic book movie since Catwoman, but it will be redeemed by all the memes it will create. So another person saying it is the spiritual successor to Catwoman. Another thing that you never want to hear about your movie. And I will say there are some Spider-Man things in Madam Web that will make the passionate Spidey fans howl with laughter. Web has the potential to reach the room levels of appreciation. I'd absolutely watch it again with a theater full of people just to laugh along with them. If you do the hashtag Madam Web, I mean, I'm scrolling through it now, spins a chaotic and perplexing theatrical experience that challenges viewers to question,

question their reality in unexpected ways with no clear vision. This web becomes a tangled mess. Matt web is an embarrassing mess. Talents is stars wasted their potential on the worst comic book movie I've ever seen. The memes might redeem it again. It's, it's what we expected. Like nobody's going into this being like,

ah, that might be good. It never looked good. Everything that came out about the movie looked bad. The ocean spray leak was a bad sign. Dakota Johnson said she hasn't seen it, doesn't know when she'll see it. I think she left the premiere

before they even played the movie. And it's more of Sony being Sony. It's their contract to keep the rights to Spider-Man. They got to make a bunch of spider-related movies. I said in my blog, I'm done with Sony. I'm boycotting their movies and theaters. I'm not going to go see their spider-related movies and theaters. Maybe I'll drop an edible and watch it when it comes out on video on demand

for the laughs and the memes and whatnot. But I'm done. Either bring back Andrew Garfield and get a good team committed to making good Spider-Man movies in your universe, or get the fuck out of the comic book industry, because you're ruining a bunch of IP that should be valuable later on. They're going to ruin Kraven the Hunter next. They've ruined Madam Web. They've half ruined Venom. The first movie's okay. The second movie was one of the worst movie watching experiences of my life, and I was in the theater with fucking Andy Serkis when it played. Me mean ken jack ran into him afterwards he's like what

you think we were like it was great we loved it it was so bad and morbius i i watched certain scenes of i haven't even watched the whole thing i have no intention of watching morbius so it's annoying it's frustrating sony being Sony, it's not surprising. If you lose that guy right there and you get him to go on a rant like that, you've fucked up. Not just like one movie. You fucked up a generation worth of movies. You've lost Robert. What's your middle name, Rob?

Matthew. Robert M. Fox is out. And if you lose Robert M. Fox, you're losing everybody. Except for like the crazy lunatic diaries. When I saw... I don't know who's still with him though. Who's still with Sony? Who's like, oh, Kraven the Hunter, that'll be sick.

Like even though they cast a great guy, like watch the trailer. They're infusing him with fucking lion blood. Like Charlie Sheen, tiger blood. Oh my God, those are some wild times. When I saw that the writer for Morbius was the one who wrote Madam Web, I thought it was like a joke. The two writers. It's a team of writers.

It's two people, which is like, you can't put your brains together and come up with something better. Their whole list. I don't mean to shit on these people. I'm sure they're trying to be creative. They've got like five movies. I don't think they have a single movie that's reached over like 25 on rotten tomatoes they did gods of egypt who how are they getting jobs this is what happens when you meme a studio they think that something went right they got memes

yeah we released morbius like this is on this is on us having our laugh at their expense and it comes back around at us. I have one nice thing to say about Madam Web. And I'm going to say it, and I'm not going to be extreme because I don't want to get hit with the Internet treatment for this. Both actresses look stunning on the record. They look absolutely stunning. I will say they might have been the two most stunning actresses I've ever seen at a premiere for the same movie ever. So I'm just going to leave it at that. I think that was the only selling point.

And like we've talked about, Madam Web, enough where I've said this on the podcast, like I don't know who the target audience was because like you could say it was nerds, but like look at the way comic book movies have been trending lately. There's not just an overwhelming we have to see every superhero movie vibe from nerds and pop culture like there's a lot of superhero movies that people say fuck off so was it the nerds was it girls it's like a girl power movie was it horny teens because they cast sydney sweeney dakota johnson and we're like they they probably did a google seo like who what do comic book fans, what celebrities do they search for the most on Google? It's probably those two.

They probably had AI. They're like, AI, make the perfect comic book movie. And AI was like, well, Morbius was released twice in theaters by you, so that would be a good one. Two girls are, you know, attractive, yada, yada, yada. And it's like there's no human element being like, this is going to be a fucking disaster.

The other thing is, though, like you said, the other movies this year are going to probably be a disaster in their own right. So it's like at some point, though, like if you're just nothing but like rotten tomatoes up to your eyeballs, when does a change get made? That's the question. You know, like they've done all right with Spider-Man, but it's only because marvel was helping them along the way and holding their hands you can agree on that at this point right and that's the other thing is like their universe they're trying to connect it to the mcu a little bit they had michael keaton in a post-credit scene and shit knock it off i don't want to see this connected to the mcu ever like never in a million years do i want them to be considered even the venom thing at the end of no way home the only thing i'll accept is if you want to bring in tom hardy as the mcu's venom i'll take that

nothing else tom holland should never appear in the sony mcu that that would be like him appearing at a fucking dollar tree and and being like oh look i'm spider-man i'll do a back foot no knock it off i i can't believe this is the first time I've ever heard Robbie's dad voice. And I know you're a dog dad. So that voice does exist. I know it exists. Yeah. Like when she likes, like is about to pee on the carpet. You're like, no, knock it off. Dude,

for the first time ever this, this weekend that I had to take faith to the vet. She had like medical issues months ago that she's been doing fine on, but she has to go for checkups. Now she's been on steroids and shit. She freaks out at the vet. She's not good at the vet. She had like medical issues months ago that she's been doing fine on, but she has to go for checkups now. She's been on steroids and shit. She freaks out at the vet. She's not good at the vet. She's so afraid, traumatized or whatever. So the vet said, next time she comes in, we're going to give you anti-anxiety meds to give her the night before. So we gave her these anti-anxiety meds. They zonked her out so much. She pissed in her bed, like laying down. I woke up at three in the morning and I was like, why is my dog standing up right now? And I look at her bed and there's just a butt print of piss. She's never ever in her life done that. So I had to do a three in the morning

bath. And I actually thought in my mind, I was like, this is good training for being a parent. I just woke up at three in the morning to a pissed bed and I got to do a bath right now. And yeah, good news is faith is all good for the next four months. I get the wiener off the steroids and then she could get back in the USADA testing program for the Olympics. Pissing on grass only hopefully from here on out. Fingers crossed. But if you're going to piss on anything else, piss on Madam Web, the DVD copy fate. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm not rooting against Madam Web. I'm not even rooting against Sony. I would love for them to fucking turn it around and we can have another good universe.

But they're just they're doomed with the people leading them. The Avid, Ari, whatever his name is. He's horrible. I've been reading about him in the MCU books. And Amy Pascal is the leader. She stinks, too. Who could be their James Gun gun that could save them because if this had happened say two years ago how do we fix the sony verse we would have said i'll hire james

gun is there anyone out there that has done you know james gun or james gun light work that we could say hey maybe this guy should throw a bag of sony money i would i would try to throw a bag at the creators and directors of the boys like i would honestly like go there with it before i would go to because it's tough to kevin feige is a very very like unique case of being able to run a studio like that i hope james gunn works out in the same way but james gunn also is a writer director so he's writing peacemaker he's writing and directing superman legacy i don't know if he's gonna be as hands-on as kevin feige was which might be a good thing you know like that might allow for more creative freedom and for people to go fucking nuts in the dcu but i don't know who can be like

that head of a studio because it seems like it takes a lot of knowledge of the comics and a lot of experience i don't think a lot of directors want to like under have an undertaking that big yeah the good thing for this person is they only have what spider-man and like those connected like there's not anything else right that they have at this point you know who i do it i don't see bring them to do all that just to have them in as like maybe the guy that leads the search party and is definitely involved seth rogan because isn't he involved in like invincible the boys obviously turtles ninja turtles so he clearly is fucking good at what he does he has a ton of hollywood friends like this is the right person to put in place for to you know not even make them great

just make this as a producer yeah exactly have him oversee shit and be like that's fucking stupid don't put that movie in theaters he might be the guy to be like don't do that we were just talking about this on the rundown and there's actually ben klein who is a barstool rundown producer was a fucking assistant on the Madam Web set. He was like, Oh yeah, I worked on that movie for a while. And we were asking about it and he was like,

yeah, the scenes I did, the director wasn't even there for, and we were like, well, that's starting to add up then. This is how you get Robbie's dad voice out like that. That's how you get the dad voice.

I didn't want to end the podcast on such a negative note. Cause we got such great stuff to talk about. Like as far as Deadpool and Wolverine, the fantastic forecast and x-men 97 this has been an overwhelmingly positive week for the nerds but madame webb had to you know slide in with their 15 asset rotten tomatoes and yeah just you know what that'll be the end of madame webb into madam web talk i have to say it i i i was i've been let down by true detective oh yeah started off pretty hot we were i was really excited about it when we caught up i kicked comp to cons out of the basement all that kind of stuff when i found out that the season finale is this Sunday,

there's only six episodes. I wrote to you. You're like, you wrote what? And I'm like, I couldn't believe it. Cause this, uh, without spoiling this episode might've been the best one,

at least the last 10 minutes of this episode were the best 10 minutes of the series so far. So like I was excited and I was like, all right, now we're going to get back on track. I think I texted you like, we better get some more answers on that ice cave next week and let's find it and you were like well next week is the only episode that we're gonna get and i couldn't believe it feels like we have at least

three more where it's like all right they're gonna unravel this mystery but no yeah looking at it as a whole now it definitely feels like they're gonna to rush 60% of the story in the final episode, which worries me. I was okay watching it week to week, but now looking back at episodes two, three, four, you kind of go, wait, why weren't you focused on the detective story during those? Yeah. And then there's some parts of five where I'm like that was kind of again we're not gonna give any spoilers here I'm like that that's all fine and good if you're doing these kind of things like some of the writing was just weird or just it seemed lazy it seems like it's fucking mad and wet kind of shit probably right and it just is making I actually looked up how many episodes

were left because it's like I think I might like bail on this if it's like 10 episodes and I was like, I think I might like bail on this if it's like 10 episodes. And I'm like, oh, I have one more left. That's probably means I just wasted the last five hours of my life by watching. There's no way this is going to stick the landing. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's like the greatest episode of all time. It's just like you said, it felt like we had a lot to cover. And I'm like, we're going to have a lot of cover like four episodes. We have a lot to cover in like 50 minutes.

So I don't know how it's going to go. Maybe it'll be a long episode or bonus episode. Bonus episode, Bob. Right now I'm halfway through Fargo season two and I'm loving season two. Like as much, if not more than season one, the season two. I only know him by actors i don't know so kirsten dunst and uh jesse plemmons married in real life married in the show and you get kieran colkin doing the episode one you know the kind of the mob shit there's a lot of

mob shit in season two of fargo the kansas city mob ray romano's uh is it his brother-in-law from everybody loves raymond or his brother that guy's awesome in it too so fargo if you haven't checked out that's a big recommendation for me at least the first two seasons i don't know the rest of it but the first two seasons and everyone says the most recent one is lights out as well right uh yeah some people didn't like maybe the last episode or two like that it seemed like it was going in a different way, but I loved it all said and done. Four is the least favorite of most people, and it's still perfectly good. I think you have massive pieces in every other season, though.

So that's why it's like you're holding that compared to that. But, yeah, much watch for the basement boys and girls out there that need something to check out. I'm happy we got my guy Bob on board, though. I'm real happy about that. Oh, yeah. I'm loving it. I'm absolutely loving it. And I'm going to get on the wire, I promise. My brother real happy about that. Oh, yeah. I'm loving it. I'm absolutely loving it. And I'm going to get on The Wire, I promise.

My brother texted me today and was like, you haven't seen The Wire, have you? And I was like, no, but Clem and Trent, they're trying to get me on it. And my brother's currently re-watching it. He's like, oh, one of my favorite shows of all time. And that's how I got on The Sopranos, too. My brother was like, just finally do it. So there's a chance I get on The Wire. By the way, Sopranos, I got this on

right now. The Stugats too. Got it for Valentine's Day. I'm loving the screw neck right now. I'm just still in a Sopranos mood. Yeah. All right. Long podcast, but we had a lot to talk about. I didn't anticipate going as hard as I did on Madam Web. I hope there was no Madam Web stans listening to this podcast that are now going to be offended and not listen to the basement anymore. But like I said, I was rooting for success. I never imagined they would get any level of success, but I was rooting for them. You know? Yeah.

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