My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 335 - NERD NEWS (SUPERMAN REVEALS, CANCELLED STAR WARS GAMES, AND MORE) WITH CLEM
Episode Date: March 1, 2024Robbie and Clem recap the week of nerd news, which included 'Superman: Legacy' changing its name to 'Superman' (and a logo reveal), EA cancelling their Star Wars bounty hunter game, Lucasfilm confirmi...ng that the Rey movie is NOT Episode X, Ray Winstone calling his experience on Black Widow "soul destroying", and more! #StarWars #Superman #Dune2 **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports. It is Robbie Fox and Clem back for another week of nerd news.
We've got a decent portion of nerd news for you this week. We've got some movie news, we've got some video game news, some rumors that got cleared up.
I think it's only appropriate that we start with the Superman news because yesterday, Leap Day, February 29th, was Superman's birthday.
And just by coincidence, Superman Legacy, now retitled Superman, started shooting on Superman's birthday.
James Gunn swears that this was a total
accident he didn't even realize that leap day was superman's birthday till recently
but they revealed the logo which looks very kingdom come superman and they also like i said
renamed the movie it's gone from superman legacy to now just Superman, which you could say anything you want to me.
That's just a big balls move by James Gunn being like,
this is fucking Superman.
We're not throwing any taglines,
any cheesy titles on it.
This is the most definitive Superman we're getting since Christopher Reeve.
So,
yeah,
I have two different thoughts on these two stories here.
Very different in terms of how I feel about our boy, James Gunn.
Our boy. He's the baseman's boy.
He is the baseman's boy, James
Gunn. One,
I loved Just Going
Superman. That is balls
on the table. I'm fucking
here to save the DCU, and if I don't,
whatever, there's going to be another guy. But this
is it. There's no, because it's always
like a little, you said, a little tagline, a little this, little that, it's like, no, I should have just said,
oh, you know, I don't want to step on Christopher Reeve's toes, it's probably not the best analogy,
as I'm saying this out loud, nonetheless, I don't want to step on the toes of the fans of the
original movie, yada, yada, no, let's just fucking forget everything that has ever happened to the dcu and we're starting fresh right now so this is superman it's not superman this
man of steel that you know blah blah it's fucking just superman here put a period in it so you know
it's the end of the book that is it superman period so i'm very i was very happy to hear
that they did that and it kind of like every,
how many times have I said here on the podcast,
like just hit the reset button and don't look back.
Don't like,
you know,
Harry Cavill this,
or it's like,
no,
no,
just disconnect from everything.
So I love that.
The leap year stuff and Superman's birthday.
And it was just coincidence.
Come on,
man.
You had it fucking made in the shade to be like,
we were waiting for the one in let's
see 365 times four that's a 12 that's another 14 about 15 1 in 1500 chance in these four years
that you could do make this announcement get the pictures leaked on superman's birthday and be like
yeah because we're fucking running this shit right. We knew that there
was a 1 in a 15, whatever I just
said, chance that this was going to happen.
And I would have loved it. I would have eaten it all up
and all of us fucking, everyone
who's been glazing James Gunn,
yeah, I'm going to start using the phrase that kids
say these days. Very adult
phrase, by the way, if you think of it. If it is what I'm
thinking about.
And just be like, yeah, we did it. but don't tell me like coincidence, this and that,
that's just fucking lame. I thought that was lame personally. I thought you shouldn't delete
pictures by the way. Fake, not real. Oh, fucking AI got us again. Huh? Was that an AI? I got us
again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you zoom in on the photographers on that picture, it looks very,
yeah. James Gunn also came out and said, that ain real um this is the logo though i'll put it on screen if you're watching on youtube that's
what i meant i meant the logo that uh that leaked yes that's what i was talking okay so that's
official they were pictures of david corn sweat or you know it was quote unquote david corn sweat
in the actual suit those were fake but they actually got a lot of
people. So I wanted to make that clear. We haven't seen the full suit. We don't know if he's going to
be wearing undies. We don't know if he's going to have the bullet belt yet. We don't know if the
logo is going to be on the Cape. This is all the questions going through every comic book fans mind.
I assume we'll see that soon though, because they're going to have to film some of this
shit outdoors and you would rather put out an official look at the costume before it leaks, you know?
Yeah, that makes sense.
And like you said, it is such a big, it happens with all the big superheroes.
Are they going to have this?
Are they going to have that?
What's the Batmobile going to look like?
Are they, you know, Wolverine going to have the suit?
All the iconic heroes.
And Superman is kind of the boss of this.
Now, I have to ask you, Bob.
We're in the basement.
The basement is very much known. You're in the basement the basement is very
much known you're in the basement it's the trust tree we can say our true opinions here you will
not get any kind of backlash and i need your honest opinion here is there any part of you
as the diehard batman fan that is kind of hoping that i'm not gonna say it flops but like if if i could tell you
behind door one is a movie and they're gonna say holy shit they made a movie better than the dark
night and behind door two is like yeah 8.1 pretty good excuse me ball scale uh 4.1 yeah pretty good
which would you choose as a fan of not only like we have the podcast
right so a good movie is good for the podcast hypothetically speaking a fan of cinema you go
to the movies jeff d lowe likes you because you go to keep the lights on there uh but at the same
time diehard batman guy and i do feel like it more so than any other superheroes, the Batman fans versus Superman fans is like a rivalry that's honestly hasn't been one for years.
But could be one if, like, both of them put out fucking great movies coming up and we're just like, holy shit, we have Batman and Superman.
DC is back.
James Gunn did it.
Our fucking The Basement Boy has become The Basement Man.
That's a good point.
I remember I used to argue with the
kid i went to school with bridges and he was a huge superman fan and i'd be like batman would
whoop his ass he has whooped his ass he's got a kryptonite brass knuckles he's got kryptonite
rings he could hit him with he's got kryptonite bombs he'd be like no way superman lasers him
right in the mouth doesn't see it coming he's done. We had these arguments daily.
I gotta say,
there would be part of me that would be killed by liking a movie
more than The Dark Knight and having it
be a superhero that's not my favorite superhero.
So that door
one you presented,
it would kill me inside
to be like, this is better than The Dark Knight.
I don't... But like,
the comic book fan, the James Gunn fan, the DC fan in me like wants that, like wants a movie where I could be like, holy fuck.
Like a movie hasn't blown me away since The Dark Knight.
Maybe Infinity War came close. this one went oh it would have to be better than infinity war which would be like i can't even
comprehend kicking off a universe could be better than infinity war in the dark knight and all that
so yeah i'll take the 4.1 you know and that's why i love you bob and that's why everyone listening
and watching loves you because you tell the truth and so 4.1 is a promising start to the universe
we'll take that yeah it's like almost take that You almost can't have it be
You can't even compare Infinity War and Endgame
To any other movie because it's like an ensemble movie
It's wrapping up a fucking decade
Worth of work
But like
Dark Knight, I'm trying to think of
What other
If it's better than say the original Iron Man
It gets better accolades
Than Guardians Stuff like that if it's better than say the original Iron Man, it gets better accolades than Guardians,
stuff like that,
that are,
you know,
standalone-ish movies that are not,
you know,
have the entire universe essentially fighting it.
And I'm going to have to say though,
Bob,
I'm going to just steer into this here and I hope this doesn't cause
friction,
but I think that our Cap versus Iron Man was a very,
it's been a very fun subplot.
I think I'm becoming a super big guy. I'm putting it down on the table right now superman's my guy clark kent i got fucking lois lane you have maggie jill and all i got lois lane
girl next door i got what's his name jimmy uh jimmy olsen jimmy olsen i got that little fucking
ginger he's a ginger i think he's a ginger yeah this guy he's a superman guy i don't even know jimmy olsen just became you know what the board birth of a superman guy was just happened
live on the podcast here here's the good thing about this rivalry is it could be diffused with
one word martha so you gotta say martha and then you remember oh our moms have the same name we
could stop fighting now there you go that's
like the uh that's like the safe word it just like eases all the fucking tension here it's the nerd
why did you say that name then it's like all right which martha was better it's like well my you know
superman's mom midwestern girl she cut the sandwiches and little triangles listen i'm the
biggest batman guy you're gonna find superman's martha's better is she better i
don't know much about her i'm a new superman listen yeah like martha wayne a saint you know
she had some mental issues if you want to follow the the batman storyline and there's other some
other storylines with it she's part of the arkham family and stuff but like at the end of the day super rich like probably not super down to earth married
to a doctor living in skyscrapers and shit when you get ma kent she's like the all-american like
you know she's the mom you want especially i gotta say in the zack snyder movies really good i think
sally field is that who plays oh sally. I feel like she was in something decent.
Let me verify that because I get Sally Field mixed up with another actress.
No, it wasn't Sally Field.
It was Diane Lane.
Diane Lane is a good one, too.
She's like one of the infamous forever a smoke.
She's just stunning.
She's 60 years old now, still just like an absolute beauty.
You know, she couldn't, it wouldn't fit because she is much more New York. just stunning. She's 60 years old now, still just like an absolute beauty.
You know, she couldn't, it wouldn't fit because she is much more New York,
but like, I'm trying to think who
they, do they have, have they announced
who Ma Kent will be?
No, but I think Sally Fields should do it
now. Sally, yeah, you know what, I'll bet.
I was going to say Marissa Tomei,
but we already have her, obviously, as they have me
and all that kind of stuff, and she is New York
more so than Nebraskabraska right um kansas this guy he and the superman guy he hit a superman guy
i'm still i'm still getting my bearings it's been a long time hey i knew midwest i was
fucking directionally correct do they bore i feel like they border each other that's the same thing
you know they might i'm not as good of geography as I am Superman knowledge.
I mean, if our boy KB was listening, he'd be puking everywhere.
Oh, they're fucking basically the same state.
They're right there.
Nebraska's right on top of Kansas.
It's not a big deal.
This guy thinks Superman works for the Daily Bugle.
That's Clark. guy thinks superman works for the daily bugle that's clark i i like the hardest thing about
being a superman guy which i am is the whole glasses thing it always just is like come on
you know what i disagree i thought that my whole life and then recently i've seen some people like
in my normal life friends family whatever without glasses and they look so different that i'm like
you know what i think i'd get fooled by Clark Kent.
You think you'd get fooled?
Yeah.
The only part, imagine like if say Clark Kent or Superman worked for
bar school and everyone's like, dude, like, oh, hey, Clark, how's it going,
dude?
And Portnoy would be the only person to be like, dude, that's fucking
Superman.
That's not, it's a fake voice, right?
That would be his kind of thing.
He'd sniff out Clark Kent instantly. instantly but yeah the rest of us probably would
Because glasses do change the first time I
Threw on Lester like where's Clint
Where'd he go
All right so
If anyone at Barstool is Superman
A Kryptonian pretending to
Be one of us
It's got to be Mincy
It's got to be Mincy you know he does like
The you know messed up hair and Cross-eyed, and then we think, oh, he's just bumbling all mince.
And then he leaves here, and it's like he ain't doing hogs for the cause.
He's saving the planet.
And he has backers.
He has the two richest people in the company are backing him at different times.
It's crazy.
He just felt like failing upwards isn't even what he does. And I honestly, when this last thing with the combine,
followed by the thousand dollar offer from his peaches,
I thought we were going to see the death of Mincy.
And somehow he's going to emerge stronger.
He has.
We're taping this Friday morning.
We have the Clemmer versus Mincy challenge.
And I feel like they're if you're just going on Mincy,
he's like the pitcher has a good
season bad season good season bad season he's gonna run like a 4-1-4 he's gonna break the nfl
records i'm like how the fuck did he do that i don't know i've been running guys i've been doing
a whole lot of running i was gonna say when you were saying kryptonian i was gonna say i feel
like clemmer is a villain and this kind of plays this could play out perfectly in this combine here
we have our kryptonian and our fucking supervillain.
And you can just see like a comic book guy who does the gargoyle pose like our boy.
Yeah.
Onto some video game news.
Some unfortunate video game news.
EA has canceled the Star Wars Bounty Hunter first person shooter game.
EA laid off a bunch of employees hundreds i think and in
this game some details we got you were going to play as a mandalorian not din jar not the
mandalorian but a mandalorian pursuing bounties across the galaxy fast-paced jetpack combat that
sounds fucking awesome um you battled various types of stormtroopers atsts at80s it was not
an open world game, which surprised me.
I kind of pictured this being like a Red Dead Redemption type Mandalorian game, but apparently
not. And it's confirmed that Jedi Survivor slash Fallen Order 3 is still in development. And a
Knights of the Old Republic remake is also still in development. This is a bummer, though.
There was a game back in the day called Star Wars 1313,
and they were like, it's about a secret bounty hunter in the depths of Coruscant. I think it was revealed along the way that it was going to be about a young Boba Fett,
and there's even some leaked test footage from it that looked awesome.
For my whole childhood, I was always always thinking that game sounds so good this
game sounded like it was going to be that you know for the next generation the next level of uh
consoles sucks i i think a star wars bounty hunter game kind of like the one i described like a red
dead redemption but it's in the star wars universe that would fucking fly off the shelves like sell
it to rockstar let
him do a rated r version of it it might take him uh 12 years to put it out you know but let's get
him started on it now let him do a rated r star wars game where they're saying like you fucking
scruffy nerf herder throw an f-bomb in there or something like that would be that'd be everything
we ever wanted there was an old game called star wars galaxies that was open world online people
loved it i it was like before my time i never really got a chance to play it wait what was the
name of the title that one galaxies it was like an online only game and you could go planet to
planet you could fit a bunch of people in an online server i watched plenty of videos on it
on youtube and i'm like this seemed like the most fun game ever i feel like i might have had that game and it was like it was so 2003 and i feel like the like it might have been choppy or something
like it just never like hooked me in but this was one of the games i said i kind of oversaturated
myself with star wars games at some point and i just cut bait with it. This sucks because, like you said, there's certain like, sex
of the star, S-E-C-T-S.
Sex of the Star Wars.
They're not talking the big capital
S word.
There's certain sex of the Star Wars universe that can
make a very cool video game
and bounty hunting.
The fucking, the catalog is wide open.
Go to any planet, do anything. You have to get
this person on this fucking, in this star system.
Boom.
Done.
Very cool.
Pretty clean.
It was EA, right?
Yeah.
EA sucks.
Let's be honest.
I haven't fucked with any of their loot crate.
I don't know if they're still just fucking people over like they used to.
But that's the one thing.
It's like, it sucks.
The layoffs obviously suck.
But with the EA thing, it's not like, if it was a Rock a rock star game this would be if you're wearing black on the podcast yeah exactly
so it sucks but hopefully someone somewhere i love this idea of just giving rock star licenses for
all the big franchises and they're like listen guys the one thing is you have to come out the
game in 15 years just can't do it and then to do it. And then we get a Marvel game.
We get ourselves a Star Wars game.
It could be some pretty cool shit along with...
God, we actually know.
You know what?
Take it back.
They're not getting shit until GTA 6 comes out.
Because I'm still...
It's Dr. Dre teetoxing me.
Until I see it on my fucking TV, I'm not going to believe it's going to happen.
So, absolutely.
We just got a report this week.
They said it's entering the final stages of development.
Like they made all their employees.
They're, they're making them come back in five days a week, which it was like, now they're
making them do that.
We've been waiting.
Cause they've been taking fucking three day weekends.
Come on.
Yup.
Yup.
I also, I sent this to you offline.
It was just one of the deals I happened to see star Wars squadrons, no free ads, but
it is available
on Xbox One Series
XS I don't I still don't know
which Xbox is the new one what's the old one
those are the same ones I don't know
I just know Star Wars Squadrons from
$40 to $2 either
online and then it says GameStop has it
as well if you're still a GameStop person
let me see yeah still $1.99
so I mean...
I'm going to get that. I haven't played it.
It's just a dogfighting game, and I think it was
mostly made for VR.
So, like, I think the PlayStation has a
VR capability thing.
So you could be, like,
in the cockpit and look around and see
all the controls and shit like that.
I think I might have bought this game, and I never...
I just never
played it i played it like twice and just forgot about it but i mean two dollars it's not dude
that's not even a slice of pizza how crazy is that two dollars is like it's cheese slice uh
i'm just looking here metacritic got a 79 in terms of the right that's not bad 5.6 on the user scale
which isn't great but two bucks i mean fuck just, fuck, just listen to the- Two bucks, yeah. You can fly around for a bit.
So I didn't want any Xbox people out there.
Which one is the current Xbox?
So I know.
The Series X.
Series X, okay.
Yeah.
Some more Star Wars news.
Not really news as much as they were rumors that were shot down.
Rumors started swirling this week that the Rey movie is going to be titled Episode 10, A New Beginning.
So everyone was like, oh, fuck, here we go.
Episode 10, The Skywalker Saga is back.
Lucasfilm denied these rumors faster than Han Solo made the Kessel Run.
It was unbelievable how quick we got a statement from Lucasfilm calling that categorically incorrect.
So they're like, this is unbelievably false.
Please, everyone, calm down.
They confirmed that the working title for the movie is New Jedi Order.
So that doesn't confirm that it's the final title.
Obviously, Superman Legacy, we just saw change their working title.
But yeah, calm down, everybody.
It's not episode 10.
And I think this is smart. I think if you did episode 10, people go in with like much higher expectations of this is part of the definitive saga.
If you just call it New Jedi Order and people go in thinking, oh, it's a little Rogue One level spinoff, and then you blow us away, all the more power to you.
Maybe you can make an episode 10 after that.
But you got to prove yourself first.
Yeah. the more power to you maybe you can make an episode 10 after that but you gotta gotta prove yourself first yeah it it raises the expectations and also like lowers them where i'm like i'm like a little bit yeah because there's a taste in your mouth yeah you know what the the it's not the
skywalker saga anymore it's the emperor saga like i'm like all right so the emperor is the big bad in all this. He's going to come in. It is the... Ready?
Palpatine.
No, still wrong.
Palpatine.
Palpatine.
I thought I said Palpatine.
You still hit like a Palpal.
That L slips in there.
It slips in there on its own.
It's crazy.
It's like Qui-Gon.
I got Qui-Gon.
You got Palpatine. So, yeah. And you got a SupermanGon. I got Qui-Gon. You got Papal Team.
So, yeah.
And you got a Superman from Nebraska.
Yeah, I got a Superman.
Hey, what if, like, what fucking, James Gunn could move him to Nebraska?
No one's going to say. No, you can't.
You can't move Superman out of Kansas.
You can't do it.
What if it's on the border?
And it's like, so, my mailing address is one address, but my schooling is a different town. So, it's like so my like my my mailing address is one address and but i'm in my schooling
is a different town so it's like maybe technically no maybe i'm not giving you nebraska superman
is there a superman is cursed there's a kansas city missouri and a kansas city kansas if there's
a kansas city nebraska we're moving to kansas city nebraska i'm with you, Bob. And it's like, don't give Daisy Ridley, like,
I gotta carry another one of these fucking, like, epic movies.
Get us out of this loop.
You could actually make a case that, like, if this movie's good,
the Skywalker saga is, like, weighing down the Star Wars overall franchise.
If you did it like the prequels and the sequels,
and you just love the original trilogy,
and you're like, well, you did it like the prequels of the sequels and you just love the original trilogy and you're like well you did have rebel one all solo the thing is the rebel one rogue one rogue one you're in a different like you're in a multiverse today that is just slightly off
from ours you're just a little bit off on everything you're saying. I was going out to get coffee.
And then I was like, oh, shoot, I'm not going to have time to go back and do all this stuff.
So I didn't have the second coffee of the day.
I rarely do it.
I know I need it, though.
This hammered home that I did need that second cup of coffee.
So this is good to know.
You went to Square Bucks to try to get coffee.
I went to Stella Red.
Yeah.
Also, I just wanted to shout out the Bad Batch yet again.
I know some people have asked for full recaps.
I don't know if it's like a full recap week to week show for me.
I'm watching it and really enjoying it.
Like I was one of the people that kind of fell off during season two.
I'm very glad that I picked it back up in season three.
I think it's shaping up to be an amazing season.
I think maybe I'll do something at the end of the season,
like a little recap of the,
or maybe mid season.
I'll do a mid season and a final thing,
but the bad batch,
very good.
And it feels like it's obviously still a kid show,
but it feels like they're aging it up a little bit with its audience.
This is a bit of a darker season.
It feels like it has bigger stakes.
We've got the emperor getting papal teen in here is always great you know now and would you say this is doing its job to what it what the clone wars did for the prequels
makes oh my god yeah better okay yes i'm here season three especially we're full-on
slight spoilers i don't think this is a real
spoiler i think it'll just sell you on it this is how the emperor got cloned like we're straight up
doing metachlorians and m counts and we're trying to get the cloning numbers up and nala say from
camino is back and it's really good now definitely worth checking out is there any part of this story
that's very important that i have to play a game of Fortnite to get some of the answers?
Read the back of a cereal box.
Everything's just there.
Everything's in the show.
It's a crazy concept, but they put all the plot you need in the actual show.
It's crazy.
Oh, this actually, I wanted to raise this point.
Again, trust tree stuff here.
We're in the basement and
the bad batch actually if i watch the bad batch it would be another example of why i wouldn't do
something like this but for the first time in my life i i thought would it really be so bad if i
canceled disney plus for a little while and how crazy is that it's like if you lose someone like
robbie you got kids that's crazy now i can't do that so the only
reason i would keep it to be honest my kids only watch disney plus for bluey and like the thing is
they watch it they love bluey so i can't do it just because of bluey but i'm just thinking i'm
like like they're just raising the prices every month i probably just end up doing like maybe the
ad version at some point but i'm like i'm not even like the disney plus logo i think of
secret invasion right now i should take a loki season two which is great but it's like i just
have that bad taste in my mouth and i just see it i'm just like this is again me bringing that
series back for the 100th straight podcast um but it's just like they should take it off the the
disney plus you know like we're big advocates of like keep everything on there it off the Disney Plus. We're big advocates of keep everything on there.
It's the vault.
We don't want you taking products off.
They should take that off, though.
Sell it to Netflix, too, and bomb Netflix with it.
You basically throw the show on the floor.
And someone sees it and just is like, oh.
It's the guy taking the headphones off me.
Except he's like, put the phone across the room.
So I was like, you know what?
They're kind of losing me here
because but i can't obviously do it we have the show we have enough stuff that'll come on
disney plus and it's and hey this month now x-men 97 and that is why i could never actually do it
once x-men 97 comes back and just being able to have end game infinity war. Yeah. All the different module Marvel projects at my fingertips.
But it's like,
at the same point,
I couldn't get X-Men on there.
The original,
like the movie that we watched.
And I'm like,
how the fuck?
Like,
so it just kind of like,
I was just like,
I worked myself into a tizzy and I was just like,
man,
their new shit.
Isn't even that good.
The old stuff I watched so many times.
And I was like,
and they're just going to raise the price. I think it was, it it's 140 for the year i pay and it's really i mean when you
break that 12 bucks a month or something that's not bad but it's like a principal thing but i
think i one okay one through five on the ball scale i'm maybe like a 3.5 in terms of people
that are going to be your disney uh plus consumers I guess having the Simpsons is always nice. You're like 4.5.
They lose Rob.
I watched there was a lot.
Yeah.
I rewatch Mando episodes,
the clone wars,
bad batch rebels.
Disney plus is one of my go-tos for sure.
Even,
even Pixar movies,
to be honest,
like if I'm working and I want to throw something on the background,
the Incredibles monster,
well,
like monster sink,
I can't really throw it in the background. That one suck me and i'll start crying um but you know the the
pixar movies that don't make you cry the few and far between that don't make you cry now yeah
exactly now that you mentioned it this did have like my this i thought of this a couple times
over the last week and one of the times is when i heard they're making a toy story 5 and they said
it's gonna end if they're gonna do it the perfect
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then i got mad i got mad at disney so this was a thing at disney it wasn't as much so disney plus
yeah so it was rooted in most or most so in toy story than star wars and marvel than anything else
so i've apologized for any of the ricochet shots or the, but I was in like a pretty angry place the other day,
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Not even Toy Story 5.
Toy Story 4 is why I was there.
Yeah, which I think is a good movie,
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It's like, again, I lived through this.
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He had some good fucking moments when he pinned Ron Mercer with the two-handed block.
It was incredible.
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All right.
Bunch of random stories here, starting with a Marvel one.
Ray Winstone, who played Drey played drakov in black widow the villain that
was running the red room and everything like that you know she breaks her nose in front of him
because of the smell thing he says that being in black widow was quote soul destroying after he was
asked to tone down his performance he said they came to the set producers and said you got to tone
down this performance he said he tried to quit his role before reshoots started but couldn't due to contract obligations he said i'd end up in
court it's like being kicked in the balls he described this as just the worst experience
ever i thought he was pretty good in the movie but he honestly wasn't in a ton of the movie
i think that was one of the things we complained about in that movie where we like could have been
more of him more of the villain more of you hating him before you meet him um but maybe they removed him because his performance was all wacky or
something i don't know or maybe they just didn't like him on set so they tried to minimize his
role sounds weird that he said it was soul destroying because they asked him to tone down
his performance he's going crazy was he speaking in a pepe lepew voice like what was he speaking in a pet baila pew voice like what was he doing i kind of like the i kind of like the thought of that this is just more of the i don't want to say
dark times but just one of those movies that was like i remember the villain and then uh who was it
a taskmaster right yeah be a taskmaster but i'm like oh taskmaster would be cool and then
kind of just fizzled out and i think they killed the i don't think i was just bummed they kept her alive but they turned her
into a good person by the end it was yeah they didn't handle her well yeah so i kind of lumped
this i'm gonna take our boy ray winstone's rant and the soul crushing side of it and we're just
gonna you know crumple it up no disrespect to ray but we're gonna like crumple it up and we're just gonna put it like in the garbage bin of the last you know two or
three years all the magic from this phase it's just one big pile of shit it's not your fault
right it's not your fault it's not your fault it's not your fault it's not your fault i'll
give my robin williams for you you almost like if anyone has a problem with any Marvel projects from the last
couple of years,
it's like,
yeah,
man,
those are some dark days.
It's like,
if you had a,
if you've ever been on like a bender in your life and there's just a year or
so that kind of don't remember what's going on.
It's like,
yeah,
we're just going to forget,
you know,
1996 or something like that.
If someone had a rough year,
crazy,
not me,
not me,
but just someone in general.
Instead though,
like even marvel's
rough years the dark years are like better than dc's you know decent year like for a studio for
a big franchise like marvel that produces many movies as they have the stinkers the ones that
are just flat out bad are very few and far between. So like they are the dark times, but they're not the darkest of times.
Yes, there is light there.
I, again, I compare this to, I, I, I always, I've been saying it for a while and even going
to James Gunn now going to DC, it's like WWF and WCW where it's like WWF.
It was like, no matter what they did, everything they touched turned to gold.
Their beds weren't really that bad.
And then somehow, some way WCw was able to turn it around and then it made them both
awesome and i'm still praying that like we are in the beginning of that that superman reveal
is like you know the first time that you saw scott hall in like the wcw you know like this
is the beginning of it and i'm really hoping that's the case so but yeah i mean that's the
thing it's the the pile like the trash pile is like oh that was that bad marvel year and then
it's like out back the flaming dumpster that was dc's you know last decade or whatever so the next
two stories i've got good news and i've got bad news which one would you like first i'm a bad news
first kind of guy bob i don't know what are you before we get into it'm a bad news first kind of guy, Bob. What are you before we get into it?
I think bad news first, because then the good news, you could kind of get out of that rut
that you're about to put in.
Yep.
Clem, this is sad.
This is sad times.
Oh, no, I don't like this.
You're not going to kill Juan again, are you?
You're not going to kill Juan again.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm just going to tell you the Nicole Kidman AMC ad has been retired.
No.
Yeah, you've seen it for the last time
they started retiring it last night but there's three new nicole kidman amc ads that have been
deployed to theaters um they started debuting last night with dune 2 previews i'm going to
see dune 2 tonight as we record this it's friday march 1st um i can't wait i'm so excited for this movie
rewatch dune this week i'm all in on dune 2 everyone's raving about it jeff delo's combing
his pants ken jack came up to me today he said it's worth the hype gucci said worth the hype
so i'm almost as excited for a new nicole kidman ad as i am doing too i actually i'm gonna go to
the nicole kidman ad tonight and then i'm gonna i made my promise to myself and to the listeners i'm only gonna watch dune on an airplane screen
so i have to wait what that's like two years before i mean no airplanes get pretty quick now
i get yeah maybe maybe a year yeah i'd say like the super bowl if we go if i fly
to new orleans for the dozen again for another super bowl uh tournament that is what i will see
dune so i'll be interested to hear your review and i'll be seeing it then i i would see if jeff
wants to hop in the basement and do like a dune podcast with me just to give him a platform to
gush about dune yeah it's gonna have to be like nsfw though because we don't know what yeah he's
gonna be taking a sandworm out for sure all right so i and i've seen the reviews i've seen the tweets from everybody um i saw jeff
blogged about it how it's just like incredible have to see another biggest screen possible
which again my airplane flight is gonna thumb the toes at all those requests like they didn't feel
this way about doom one did they no i mean jeff did but like not everyone else
did jeff was like this is you know the greatest movie ever but he even scored this higher than
doom one i went back and looked at what he scored doing one he scored that in 96 this is a 98 so it
ain't oppenheimer which was 100 but it's 98 because like i i saw june again on an airplane uh i don't really remember what
like i haven't i remember i remember like the big things but i'm just like i don't know that's
why i re-watched it this week i was in the same same place and i felt like i liked it the first
one but i didn't love it and then i re-watched it and i was like maybe i do love it like the
re-watch actually really helped because there's a lot going on and i'm you know i'm sure if you read the book which you know
sounds like was an absolute just monster back in the day everyone's like this is going to be
incredible if someone could harness all this into a movie and i was watching my guy heavy spoilers
he did i watched his breakdown even of june 1 to be get ready for june 2 and i'm just like i'm still
just overwhelmed by all this shit, man.
There's fucking Sands and Daya has blue eyes. What the fuck's going
on? Then I have Zendaya in a C3PO
outfit in my head. There's a lot of
things that I'm battling.
But I want to love it, so I'm excited for Dune 2.
I'm excited myself.
Bob Fox is going to be
like, you're the meter I can
go off of here because I think Jeff is
a Dune guy. He's's a dune guy he's
just a dune guy yeah yeah yeah it's like wait wait it's like the opposite of like frank with the
mets it's like if you hear about how this guy is the worst player of all time and then it's like
oh frank i looked at his baseball card he batted like 310 last year and had 45 on words he's the
fucking worst he's never gonna win so uh jeff is the anti-frank for the dune which is like the
nicest thing i think i could say to someone's fandom.
And Dave is also a big Dune guy.
Dave Portnoy, our boss, he came up to me and Jeff after seeing Dune for the first time.
And I still crack up thinking about it.
He was like, did you guys know Star Wars kind of ripped off Dune?
And we were like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We knew that.
But he loves Dune.
He told Jeff recently, I think at the Super Bowl, Jeff said they were just watching the Super Bowl.
A Dune commercial came on.
And Dave turned to him and he was like, that might be a dress up on opening night movie.
Wow.
Yeah.
So I'm sure he'll be seeing it probably this weekend.
Maybe he'll bring Miss Peaches to the theater.
Do the Dune boys come out?
The Dune boys.
We all have that thing that goes into our nose the the fremen thing
um all right so the good news um wasn't even the three new nicole kidman ads i have
even better news for us as basement boys i thought that was the good news that's a double
this is why you get the bad news out of the way. Because if there's some good news with the bad news, then you get the good news on top.
Even though it didn't perform the way that the studio anticipated, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem 2 will be happening.
It will be released in theaters October 9th, 2026.
So we still got a ways to go until then.
But I believe there's going to be a TV show on Nickelodeon to bridge the gap between movies.
I was worried about this because we heard like, oh yeah, it didn't really do what they anticipated box office wise.
So I was like, fuck, I want a sequel out of this.
I want them to get their secret of the use moment.
And I was worried we weren't going to, but here we got it confirmed.
I think it's, it's a paramount
that confirmed it i am like i have two feelings i have the feeling of like happiness that this
is coming because again anyone who's listened to this or i i basically like started a grassroots
campaign on twitter begging people to go for a movie i have nothing to do with at the same point
like i just hate hearing despite the studio being disappointed
so it's like i just they don't i i want to make a franchise out of this i want to have
a new mutant mayhem kind of thing every three or so years with the creative people in place
but i feel like now it's like kind of got to go we got to go all in here got to nail this
uh they're going to be given notes which never is good for a movie
yeah so i'm kind of worried about it bro you listed a lot of cons but pro
shredder bro shredder yes very very very very very very big bro i turned that on last week
when my kids were all from school really and i was like and they just like i don't want to watch
this right now i'm like yeah i know This is just my way. I do this.
This is a good thing for parents.
Turn a movie on
you want them to watch.
They're going to watch it
after like 10 minutes
and all of us
were just like locked in.
That movie is so fucking fun.
It's so good.
There is, I will say,
from the time he becomes
like a monster
till the like,
they win it,
like right before them
when they go to,
I think it's like
the Staten Island Zoo.
I don't love that part.
Everything else is fucking intense. It's such a good goddamn movie so bob you know
what like that that was the best case bad news good news scenario i could have i have the three
nicole kidman's coming back i feel like you're gonna have to find a like someone's gonna find
a way to get that original nicole kidman either on there or like into your streaming like you turn
on netflix you turn on
and that's gonna pop up like like the streaming the streaming companies are gonna be in a war
to get the nicole kim and amcn as a little they're gonna put it out on on the criterion collection
you're gonna be able to get like a dvd bonus features and all that shit all right so the
the final news item i gotta admit clem i'm, I'm pissed off again. I have a rant compared. I'm real upset about this. I texted the group chat about it. And I I'm, I'm the only person that's pissed off about this. Apparently they're remaking the crow. Okay. And when I heard the remake in the crow, I wasn't stoked about it. I really liked the crow 90s cult classic movie starring brandon lee
if you haven't seen it i understand it's not like the most classic movie of all time it's also not
the best movie of all time it's a decent movie with an amazing perfect vibe like it puts you in
that 90s almost tim burton-y aesthetic it nails the aesthetic and look of everything,
particularly Eric Draven, the crow himself.
Brandon Lee looks so fucking cool in that movie as the crow
that Sting based the next 30 years of his career off the guy.
He just started immediately.
I think it was Kevin Ash and Scott Hall gave him the idea.
They were like, the crow is sick.
Why don't you just be the crow?
He had birds.
He had crows.
He was in the rafters.
He was being brooding.
The crow is one of the all-time movie character looks for me.
Comic book character looks for me based off a graphic novel.
They announced they're remaking it.
I'm like, that's probably a bad idea.
Then they announced the weirdo Skarsgård brother, Bill, is going to play him.
And I was like like all right he played
pennywise and it he's a fucking weird lanky guy weird eyes i was like that kind of seems like it
could work he's the perfect fit if you're gonna recast the crow eric draven all right i'll give
him a shot and then they put out pictures of eric draven bill scars guard in the new crow movie
and he looks like a soundcloud rapper he doesn't look anything like the crow he has short hair
he's got he he looks like almost the joker i know the crow has kind of like clown paint but he looks
like the florida joker that's trying to sue gta6 for putting him in the game he looks like jared
leto's joker with the damage tattoos on his face.
He's got eyebrow tattoos.
He looks like Lil Xan.
This is so unbelievably
beyond my worst dreams.
I was stunned.
I'm out on this movie.
I'm not seeing the crow
with Bill Skarsgård and FKA twigs.
I'm out about everything
that has to do with it.
I can't believe how much this was botched just from the pictures alone and listen when i saw i remember like it was
yesterday the first picture of jared leto's joker coming out he's like this ah he's got a damage
tattoo on his head i was at a ranger game when i saw it and i was with my cousin kenny i looked at it with
him shout out kenny i was like oh my god i was like this is not great but you know what i'm
gonna give it a shot maybe the joker in this new age has tattoos fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me i'm not letting you fool me twice with the fucking jared leto joker
and the damaged tattoos out on the crow okay first of all what was kenny thought what were kenny's thoughts on the original
joker when he saw yeah i don't even think he cared i think he was just watching the ranger
all right it looks fine got a ranger game on right now bob come on
goddamn nerdy cousin here not just talking about comic book i feel for you dude you were fired up
about it i need you to tell him to dude. You were fired up about it.
I need you to tell him to knock it off.
Tell him to knock it off.
Cause that's.
Knock it off.
Knock it off.
Yeah, man.
This is one of those things where it's like your boy is going through it.
I have, I haven't even seen the original crow.
The original crow was a fucking like huge deal.
I mean, when they were started filming it, then obviously he dies and it was like fucking just like eerie.
It's like a creepy vibe around the whole movie obviously because of
what happened yeah but it works so well
like it's again it's one
of those movies where I can't recommend it and be like
it's the fucking best movie ever you're
gonna love it it's just like
me and my brother love it my brother
watches it I think like every Halloween
it's like a good Halloween movie so
wait for October to come around if you just want a spooky 90seen it's like a good halloween movie so wait for october to come
around if you just want a spooky 90s vibe it's such a 90s movie the crow is a great one my wife
loves tim burton and we love the 90s in general so i feel like she she would like it i might have
to check it out based on this now what if i'm okay don't buy my head off of this but i'm just
trying to help you out here what if like so if so if it has the 90s vibe, which is a very distinct vibe, which again, the
distinct thing, great point.
Let's be honest, like the 2020s, kind of like it's like a lost, it just feels like a lost
world we're in right now.
Everyone's kind of segmented in their own little world.
It just feels like we've made copies on copies on copies, Xeroxes on Xeroxes of other stuff.
And it just comes out maybe in the music and pop culture.
And maybe this movie is just a reflection of that, where the 90s were so fucking pure.
You're not going to do it, huh?
And don't remake The Crow.
It's not meant for this era.
Wow, that was the dad voice came back out there.
He yelled at me, but I was just trying to be fair.
Listen, when your boy is going through stuff,
you know when you just stop and you just say,
all right, we're not going to go through.
So I'm not even going to make, I don't fucking want to,
I haven't seen the original.
I don't give a fuck about this.
Fuck this new Crow.
I'm not going to watch it.
I'm a Superman guy.
I'm just going to watch Superman.
Thank you, Clem.
We're going to Nebraska.
We're going to see where Superman landed.
Happy birthday, Superman leap year. Fuck the Crow. Fuck the Crow. Fuck're going to see where Superman landed. Happy birthday, Superman. Leap year.
Fuck the crow.
Fuck the crow.
Fuck the crow.
But go watch the original.
If you could go find it on streaming somewhere, you know, that's my recommendation to the
basement boys and girls this week is check it out.
I hope it's on Disney Plus so that I have a reason.
No way it's on Disney Plus.
It's probably streaming somewhere.
Prime Video. you got to...
Paramount Plus.
Paramount Plus, you can get it.
There you go.
Amazon is such a tease because it's like, yeah, you can buy it for $4.
No, buddy.
That's not what streaming is.
That's not how we work.
Yeah.
All right.
That was the basement for this week.
Do we have a hashtag that the people could use?
We talked Bad Batch.
We talked Star Wars. Mando. Superman. that the people could use we talked bad batch we talked star wars mando superman uh something about
nebraska super super or um what what was our uh rebel one hashtag rebel one hashtag rebel one
there we go my shitty brain that that's basically the hashtag so rebel one that's that's god damn
that's when you buy it at a bootleg at the
metalance flea market that's what it says on the cover we have star we have rogue one at home
definitely we have rogue one at home god damn it also if you've made it to the end of this podcast
just a tease for next week i believe monday this will be dropping as long as i get the file sent
to me um i interviewed david desmalchen, our friend from the Suicide Squad, The Dark Knight.
He played Polka Dot Man in Suicide Squad.
The Dark Knight, he plays that officer that Joker kidnaps and everything.
He's kind of like a henchman, Joker henchman.
He's in a ton of great shit, though.
Prisoners, Dune, Blade Runner 2049.
He's in a new movie called Late Night with the Devil.
I interviewed him about that yesterday, and it was awesome.
He's a great guy.
He remembered me from last time.
He remembered the basement.
So we always appreciate David Videsmouch coming and chopping it up about movies.
So look out for that on Monday.
And, yeah, anything else, Clem?
No, I like that dude, man.
He just has that look about him.
I feel like he is one of those guys.
He's also, like in The Dark Knight, the guy who, in the beginning, who was a bank robbery. You're just like, I just like he is one of those guys. He's also in the, like in the dark night, the guy who,
uh,
in the beginning with the bank robbery, you're just like,
I just like that guy,
you know,
the guy from heat you're talking about.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um,
and like,
this is another one of those guys.
And there's,
there's a,
there's a,
I mean,
in a,
like Kelly Murphy's like a juiced up version of that.
He's like a fucking A-lister now,
but like,
you know,
he's seeing me like, I just like that guy. And like a fucking A-lister now, but like, you'd always see him.
You're like,
I just like that guy.
And,
um,
the Mr.
Robot guy,
like they all,
they're a little different,
little strange white guys.
Let's be honest.
So,
uh,
this dude,
he's a friend of the base.
He's a friend of mine for sure.
So check it out.
Uh,
Monday,
you said hopefully Monday.
Yeah,
hopefully they,
it's like a,
it was a screener interview.
So like they have the zoom link, so they got to send me the, the download of it. But yeah, hopefully. It was a screener interview, so they have the Zoom link.
So they got to send me the download of it, but it is what it is.
I think they'll send it to me this weekend.
Fuck.
The name of the, what's it called?
The Zack Snyder Star Wars ripoff.
Was it Rebel One?
Is it?
No, Rebel Moon, that was.
Rebel Moon.
Fuck, that's why I was trying to find it.
Close enough, you know?
Damn it.
Yeah.
All right. That was the basement for this why it was close enough. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
That was the basement for this week.
We will talk to you next week.
I'm getting a second coffee next week.
Even if I don't need it,
I don't care.