My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 339 - ‘X-MEN: FIRST CLASS’ (2011) REWATCH AND REVIEW WITH CLEM
Episode Date: March 15, 2024Robbie and Clem are BACK to recap and review another ‘X-Men’ movie on the road to ‘Deadpool and Wolverine’ - and this time it’s Matthew Vaughn’s ‘X-Men: First Class’ from 2011! What in...itially served as a franchise reboot with James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender as Charles Xavier and Magneto quickly became retconned into canon when ‘First Class’ was as big a hit as it was and fans wanted to see the casts unite in ‘Days of Future Past’! Find out WHY comic book movie lovers enjoyed this iteration of the X-Men so much and where Robbie/Clem rank it in this recap! #XMen #DeadpoolAndWolverine #XMenFirstClass **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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Hello and welcome back to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, and a very special X-Men First Class recap and review edition of My Mom's Basement.
It is Robbie Fox, back with my fellow X-Men extraordinaire. Is that a word?
X-Men extraordinaire?
I'm your X-Man.
Your ex-pal.
My X-Man.
Your X-Man.
X-Pal should be our hashtag for this week.
Hashtag X-Pals.
We're all X-Pals.
You can just call me your X-Man.
I was going to say it could become problematic again i i'm reading that there's already people that are mad about the x-men 97
some of the like uh storylines that may go on in there and i'm like all right well let's just get
to it boys because this is the x-men this is a different in the 90s everyone just kind of live
with it not gonna be so in the 20s. That's fine. These are my people.
You're my people.
Robbie, you're my person.
You're my man.
And I'm your X-Men.
I heard a lot of good stuff about X-Men 97 from the premiere and from the critics that got screeners.
Our guy Heavy Spoilers had a tweet where he was kind of raving about it.
I think a lot of people saw the first three episodes.
And the harshest criticism I've seen is that it starts slow episode one is slow
and then the next two are pretty good um but i'm excited for it i mean the showrunner getting fired
and the creator getting fired under very mysterious circumstances is strange and it feels like maybe
he's about to get canceled but i don't know anything so i don't know i said the guy's name
was bow and it's spelled b-e-a-N-U. That's this is the thing.
If you're a Bo and your name is spelled B-O, cool as shit.
I fucking love Bo's.
I feel like if your name is Bo, you're a little fancy boy, B-E-A-N-U.
And I disavow.
I disavow all Bo's.
I apologize if you're a Bo listening to the podcast.
If you are, fuck, that's a tough break for us.
I think we do have a boa that listens to
the podcast the tweet mess i hope he has an x at the end does he have an x at the end that would
be sick i don't think he does shit i apologize but hopefully he's not an x-man so he's not
listening yeah i'm excited for that but we are here to talk about x-men first class um the movie
from 2011 it released june 1st 2011 in the uk and june 3rd 2011 in the u.s
june 3rd shout out mama fox mama fox's birthday oh june baby yeah and i have really good memories
of seeing this movie i saw all the x-men movies with my brother growing up that was kind of like
our thing we would always go to see x-men opening day and we went to go see this one opening day we went home afterwards and he was like hey man i'm getting married in september i want you
to be my best man what do you think so i like kind of associate that good memory with x-men first
class but it is honestly up there with x2 as far as my favorite x-men movie yeah uh so it's been a
while since i've seen this but once i watched it
i was like the good memories came rushing back again x3 as we just discussed if you haven't
watched it yet or listened the review is uh from a couple weeks ago there was it was low it was a
low point it wasn't quite where we are with marvel right now but people were pretty uh scared and
upset about it it was one bad movie too right everyone loved x2 actually came out they're like oh it's over fucking franchises well to be fair
it's two bad movies and we're skipping over one because we don't want to talk about x-men origins
wolverine that is such a steaming pile of shit that we were like we don't even want to spend the
whole podcast breaking it down but then again i've seen people be like we want to see you guys break down the steaming pile of shit so we might get bullied
into doing it at some point but for now we were like let's skip that let's get a good one out of
our way we will not watch x-men origins wolverine unless we have 50 000 subscribers which i i do
notice we're a little closer to the present bump we are getting close yeah i'm not going to say it
will happen when we do it,
but the first thing that has to be done is 50,000 subscribers on YouTube.
Yeah, forgot about that.
So yeah, two bad losses in a row in people's minds.
So this kind of did just lift it back up
and make everyone feel like we're on the right track.
It's like a reboot prequel.
It's about as clean as you can get
when you're still using the same characters, right? Yeah, and it's like a reboot prequel it's about as clean as you can get when you're still using
the same characters right yeah and it's interesting it was originally meant to be
like a complete franchise reboot they went to our guy matthew vaughn who was of course involved in
x3 he rewrote a lot of the script was slated to direct it at one point dropped out um but they
went to him and they were like clean
slate we'll give you the x-men we want it to be set in the 60s but other than that you can do
whatever you want with him he was like fuck yeah that sounds like a great job um but it kind of
got retconned into being a prequel even though it doesn't completely follow the canon of the
previous three movie or the trilogy um there's a few things that are slightly changed, obviously,
but the idea of doing this, a prequel to The X-Men,
was from Lauren Shuler Donner, Richard Donner's wife,
during the production of X2.
And she was very vital in bringing Kevin Feige up
and making Kevin Feige the man he is today
in the comic book industry.
She is very underrated when it comes to overall comic book movies and what she did for the
industry.
But they didn't want it to fully contradict the trilogy.
So they were like, they were like kind of half retconning things.
They were like, we're going to retcon some things, but not nothing too bad because of
course we could eventually loop this in.
And they did.
I feel like, I feel like there's probably a lot of that that could eventually loop this in and they did i feel like i feel like
there's probably a lot of that that's about to happen in the future with marvel and stuff you
know it's i saw well i was thinking about this already it's the kevin bacon thing is like is
kevin bacon a variant because he's in guardians 3 the or the holiday special and this so i had
a note about this dude that's the same actor who plays
himself kevin bacon happy-go-lucky christmas guy and a fucking nazi who wants to start world war
three the most polar opposite and i hadn't clicked in my brain before i watched and then i'm just
like oh this guy's in the mcu and he's himself and he's pretty fucking delightful he's doing a
rock and roll christmas song by the end of it spoiler yeah crazy yeah no and he's great in this like he kind of has two two sides of his coin pun intended
right coin movie um but in the beginning the first scene with him where he's just full-on nazi and
then later in the movie when he's almost like an 80s or i mean mean, 60s, I guess, but he comes off like an 80s action villain.
Like, he's so over the top in his outfits, his dialogue, and all of that.
Great performance by Kevin Bacon.
And, like, I haven't seen Kevin Bacon.
I'm trying to think.
I haven't seen him in anything other than the Guardian special in a little bit.
Like, this was, I don't want to call it one of his last great performances
because I'm very, like, misinformed misinformed obviously with his imdb but it's the last thing i saw him in where i was like holy
fuck kevin fight kevin fight kevin bacon can uh act his ass off yeah kevin bacon's one of those
guys he just seems like a likable dude tell me if this is odd i feel like this is probably just
my dumb brain thinking but like these guys that have like had like him and Kara Citroen
have been together forever.
I'm not even going to try to pronounce it correctly.
And it just seems like a good, happy, go lucky dude.
Right.
It's like, for sure.
Just happy for them, you know?
Yeah.
So this was directed by Matthew Vaughn, as I mentioned,
written by Ashley Edward Miller, Zach Stentz,
Jane Goldman and Matthew Vaughn. There's four writers with credits on it i'll get into that it was kind
of rewritten a couple times um it's two hours and 12 minutes the budget on this was somewhere
between 140 and 160 million that's down from 210 million on x on X2, which was, at the time, to be fair, the most expensive movie ever made.
So double that for marketing was probably anywhere from $280 to $320 million.
It made $116 million on opening weekend and then total gross was $353 million. million so it was a success for sure especially coming off the heels of x-men origins wolverine
which was completely shit on by critics and audiences alike this one getting an 86 critic
score and rotten tomatoes 87 audience score very good obviously yeah very good uh you know the
7.4 rotten tomatoes which again we know how that goes. Now that I've realized the criteria of Rotten Tomatoes, it does feel like it should be higher.
But I think you're always dealing with the superhero curve, where some people are just going to not like it, or they're going to twist it up to something.
I mean, they're close to 90, though.
That's impressive, on the audience at least.
And that's what truly matters, let's be honest.
And we've mentioned it talking about the previous x-men movies the fact that they were
able to reboot it not too long after the x-men trilogy and do new actors playing the iconic
roles of charles xavier magneto even mystique and audiences didn't just like revolt really speaks to
how good the movie was they were kind of like fighting an uphill battle with that i think
but they nailed casting so that's what i wanted to mention is i just think the casting they knocked it out of
the park with it and i think there were a lot of problems that could have come up if they fucked
up the casting i know going into it i was like oh jesus christ what are we gonna have here and
then you just see her like oh shit i can see that's professor x i can see that's magneto i
can see that's mystique and i do think with we'll talk about it, I'm sure, in the future,
where Mystique just becomes the main character of some of these movies.
They hit a little too much of a jackpot with Jennifer Lawrence, I think.
But there were so many guys where I'm like,
man, they really fucking nailed it here on this movie.
So Matthew Vaughn is my savior.
And it makes everything about his Deadpool comments just make me feel.
So you're watching this movie and you know what deadpool is and what it's kind of going to be
for the mcu don't you feel like if there's one person you'd want to hear weigh in on a movie
that could save a floundering comic franchise that you know and i'm not saying deadpool i'm
saying the whole mcu with stuff that's going to be new, but also a little old.
That's his fucking bag right there.
Right.
It's like,
that's why we've elected Matthew Vaughn,
our goat,
because he said he likes Deadpool three.
They're not asking for much right now in the basement, by the way,
I know this isn't a news episode.
Kind of,
kind of tough looks for your boy.
My boy,
that doesn't want to share a same calendar year as my guy soup
over here he's running from clark he's running from clark he's not running from clark batman
that franchise is a halloween franchise we're just making sure we come out in october every year
yeah you know it's just nothing to see here we're not in the chat everyone in the comments hashtag
running from clark let them know let bobby no he ain't running from clark he ain't running from clark he's never run from clark clark runs
from him because he's got the the kryptonite he's got the plans he can take down everyone
he ain't running from clark doesn't run superman don't run clark fucking flies he's a flyer your
guy can't even fly fat can't fly he glides he falls with style won't even get me out of buzz versus woody uh thing you're well
again we're i'm taking this podcast in a very different direction woody or buzz guy
it's tough because like uh i'm a sci-fi guy obviously but personality wise i'm a woody guy
for sure sci-fi stuff aside woody guy i sure. Sci-fi stuff aside, woody guy.
I was very, this could have broken the Basin Boys for good because I am staunchly a woody guy.
Because he cares about Andy more than anything in the world.
And this fucking blockhead Buzz Lightyear came in, tried to ruin everything.
Absolute hard-o.
Absolute hard-o.
Oh, yeah.
Slinky Dog hit one of those as he walked into the room.
This I found crazy. And by the way, credit to the X-Men First Class Wikipedia page and the IMDb trivia page.
That's where I'm getting basically all of these facts that I'll be reading off.
Matthew Vaughn went through five cinematographers on this movie because he really wanted it to have the style
of a sixties movie as well. Not just look like it, but like actually be shot like a sixties movie.
A sole credit is given to John Matheson who did like 45 to 55% of the movie. They said he came in
halfway through the shoot. Seemed like the shoot was kind of chaotic. There was some reshoots for
the final sequence on the beach.
That was originally like kind of a CGI battle between Charles and Eric.
They redid all that.
A lot of fistfight stuff,
a lot of talking stuff,
which I think works better in that context for the context of the movie,
especially.
But a lot of stuff was rushed.
I think budget was slashed a little bit at some point.
And yeah, five cinematographers. But a lot of stuff was rushed. I think budget was slashed a little bit at some point.
And yeah, five cinematographers.
I think even Rose Byrne was cast as Moira really late in the process.
I think she pulls off a decent Moira for what she is in the movie, right?
Oh, I think she is, yeah.
She's been one of my favorites for a long time, to be honest.
She's like one of the Bob Fox.
She's on the crush list.
She's on the crush list, yeah. I have a very, have a very like the first time i saw her took my breath away but ever since i saw
bridesmaids i always think she's like a bitch in real life just because her character is in that
movie she's so funny in that i have such like anger in my soul for her even though it's probably
just a role she played very well so it is a very weird thing the cinematography though like this i
did like that i forgot like what
exactly year it is where it takes place but then when it was the 60s like you start in the beginning
with out of the swigging side of things and then even the kids when they're kind of just like
dancing around like 60 yeah it's what it would right and i was like oh this is fun a little
austin powers right there's a little i love that scene it's such like a great like party vibe like
almost like it feels like the first week at college.
A bunch of people are meeting each other.
They're hanging out for the first time, forming their group, their little clique.
Yeah.
Oh, there would have been some smooching going on if they didn't show up like an hour later.
There would have been some smooches going on.
We would have some new seven minutes in heaven with a mutant.
Yeah.
Zach Penn was originally hired to write this movie.
We talked about him a bunch on our previous X-Men recaps.
Again, go back and check those out.
But those plans fell through.
Marvel then hired Sheldon Turner to write a spinoff around the same time just about Magneto.
So he wrote a movie called Magneto about Eric trying to survive in Auschwitz and then hunting down the Nazis that were there when he was there, the guards, the officers, whatever they may have been.
The writer's strike of 2007, 2008 canceled that movie.
So there was another writer's strike back then.
Canceled plans for that.
Bryan Singer then got brought in to write a draft of First Class that allegedly used a lot of stuff from that Magneto script for inspiration.
Brian Singer denied it, but he's a scumbag.
And Turner was actually credited for the story.
Like on Brian Singer's draft, the WGA stepped in and was like, you have to credit this guy because it's a lot of his ideas.
Singer then dropped out to go do like fucking jack the giant hunter or
something some stupid movie and ashley scumbag shit ashley edward miller and zach stentz were
then hired to rewrite it then when matthew vaughn was hired he rewrote it again with jane goldman
when i hear this it kind of i i have like two thoughts i'm like one i can't believe this
movie turned out as good as it did with all of this writer's hot potato angle left to right
another thought is like when i hear reshoots are happening for this re rewrites are happening for
this maybe it's for the better like daredevil you know they got canceled and they're revamping
the whole thing like maybe that that shouldn't be a reason to be concerned maybe they're just really making sure it's the right way when things are going you can
always see it two different ways when things are going good it looks good when things are going
like oh fuck it's all coming apart you know it's just unfortunately it's same with sports teams
it's like oh we almost drafted this guy and then we change directions and if it's a good team you're
like oh good work by the chiefs just getting it all done there.
And then if it's the fucking one of my idiot franchises, you're like, oh, here are the Mets doing Mets shit again.
The score is by Henry Jackman, who previously worked with Matthew Vaughn on Kick-Ass,
which is kind of the movie that got him this job.
They loved Kick-Ass, and we're like, let's see if he wants to come back to the x-men the score is awesome i think it's based on the work of john
barry who did a lot of 007 scores and there's a lot of 007 inspiration laced throughout the movie
but the guitar riffs that happen like as soon as you see the one that comes to mind is when you see
magneto michael fassbender's magneto for the first time when he's just twirling the coin and he throws it at the wall yeah that guitar is such
a like smooth cool almost like foreboding music and i love it i wanted to point that out it takes
you on a good journey the score like yeah it goes you from a to b to c and it you don't think about
it but now that you're saying and i'm like like, yeah, it, that guitar and stuff like that.
Yep.
Good call,
Bob.
Then as far as comic inspirations for this movie,
first class is a comic book run that kind of inspired this.
I think they saw the title.
They loved the title,
but the movie doesn't really follow that storyline very closely.
I think first class involves Wolverine heavily and stuff like that.
Simon Kinberg and Schuler donner why or lauren schuler donner wanted heroes that worked well together even if they
weren't teammates in the comics so they told all the writers like don't really be like tied down to
who was teammates with who in the comics just pick a group of mutants that you think would be great
in an ensemble cast they did that they also brought back radiation being a group of mutants that you think would be great in an ensemble cast they did that they
also brought back radiation being a cause of genetic mutation that is a huge factor in the
x-men so i think x-men fans really liked that they brought that back and then as far as other
inspiration uh matthew vaughn said batman begins and the 2009 star trek reboot were actually huge
inspirations for him because they were great reboots
that could stand on their own
just as a singular movie.
And I like that he shouted out the Star Trek one
because, you know, I'm a Star Wars guy.
The biggest criticism of J.J. Abrams' Star Trek reboot
is that it's like too much of a Star Wars movie.
And that ain't an issue for me.
So I loved it.
I can't say this on the pod i've never seen it because i kind of was defending the wars and i can't believe my god no listen i was the king
of the war and down because it's jj he's the neutral switzerland in this like you can cross
the barrier for jj at this point i'm telling you, it's worth watching. Chris Pine, he's fucking great in it.
I mean, this is the thing is, again, I wasn't even a Star Wars fan growing up.
But even when I became a Star Wars fan in the mid-90s, it was us against them, Bob.
So, I mean, I'm just, I guess, like, the old crusty guy.
The Kirk Loven Spock suckers, yeah.
I was fighting them Nazis back in 43, you know.
They fought a wars for you, yeah.
That's one of my favorite pizza review quotes.
Oh, unbelievable.
Unbelievable fucking lead.
I fought a war for this.
You fought a war?
War too. That's right.
Thank you for your service.
Baby, would you say it's the best
pizza review?
Honestly,
it might be.
I have a personal favorite pizza review,
which is this homeless guy wanted Dave to try these hot peppers,
and Dave was trying to get him to review the pizza,
and they kept going back and forth going,
rate it, 1 through 10, 1 through 10.
And the guy was yelling at Dave going,
1 through 10, 1 through 10, 1 through 10.
Want a bite?
Sure, here you go. You got to give me a score, though, 1 through 10, 1-10, 1-10. Want a bite? Sure, here you go.
You gotta give me a score, though, 1-10 after you bite it.
It's hot, watch yourself.
1-10.
Not you.
1-10.
1-10, what do you got?
1-10, though, you gotta give me that.
1-10, what do we got?
1-10, though, neither scores pizza.
Today, 1-10.
1-10, what do we got for a score?
1-10, what do we got for a score?
Give me that one bite score.
1-10, what do we got? Hit me with it. 1-10, what do we got? a score? 1 through 10, what do we got for a score? Give me that one bite score. 1 through 10, what do we got? Hit me with it.
1 through 10, what do we got?
Give it a score.
1 through 10, like figure skating.
Let's go.
1 through 10.
1 through 10 score.
How good would you say this pizza is?
Scale of 1 through 10.
I want 1 through 10.
You and me.
Oh shit, what's that?
I don't want to fucking do that.
What is that?
I feel like that's going to take me on a wild, strange trip.
One to ten.
Come on.
Nah, these peppers, dude.
Come on.
One to ten.
Come on.
You and me.
Come on. Yeah, what is this?
Come on, man.
Come on.
Yeah.
If you want, man.
One to ten.
So fun.
Dave eats a hot pepper out of this homeless guy's backpack,
burnt his face off.
It's fun.
Oh, God almighty.
One on one.
One to ten.
Come on.
One to ten.
I'm taking the fucking pepper.
Oh, shit.
Hot.
Now one to ten.
Oh, this is you and this is me.
You're fucking hot.
Woo! I'm gonna rank it
after you rank it. Pizza, I rank it every day.
That's what I do.
Woo!
Woo! That pepper's
a ten.
The pizza? I'm gonna give the pizza score this guy's
carrot hot peppers god knows what's going on right now the pizzas 7.8 strong
pizza fancy pizza
what what I don't get water.
Yeah, I got me some water, man.
That's a side tangent.
I'm so happy you brought back that photo.
I'm going to watch that as soon as this is over.
We should see.
You know, Bob, in the YouTube, just rip that video we're going to put at the end
of our YouTube here.
Dave's going to sue us.
I'll throw that pizza review at the end.
Yeah. And put the peppers one in there.
Put the peppers one in there too.
I thought that's the one you were talking about.
We can't put two full pizza reviews
at the end of our video. I think that might get us sued.
I mean,
that's one way to make the base
keep the lights on we just take over one bite and we just fucking put all dave shit on our channel
what do you think about that bob definitely you know what i'll do here's what i'm gonna do is i'm
gonna intercut the moments we talked about while we were talking about them good man good man boom
the movie was shot at oxford they shot a little bit in the mojave um georgia
los angeles also pinewood studios where they shoot a lot of the star wars movies
obviously set during the cuban missile crisis once again using real history
looping it in with politics a little bit i love that i love that bob great when the real stuff
comes into the the movie and it works well with X-Men, obviously, because of the way that there's a lot of, you know, real-life shit in X-Men movies that we talked about.
Like, they get political a lot.
When the new X-Men movie comes out, don't say X-Men turned political.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, I was reading that people are already commenting on, like, X-Men 97 getting upset, you know, go woke, you're broke.
And I'm like, X-Men might be the wokest shit-men's the wokest and ladies they're awake they're awake
he's just lying down because he can't walk but he's fucking yeah
uh stanley unable to cameo in this they couldn't make it work for this one so we get no stanley
cameo which is a little bit of a bummer he said they shot it too far away and this is my question to you you always hear the thing like would you
drive how far would you drive from you know to have sex with a girl or something like that how
far would you drive to be in an to make a cameo in an x-men movie we're talking five seconds or less
uh as far a drive as i could make really i think like i would i look i would drive to california
i would drive to california for sure like i think back to my abu dhabi trip when i went to abu dhabi
for ufc 18 hour flight there was like my whole journey back took me like over 30 hours of travel
non-stop i didn't sleep in that time it was horrendous i always say the only thing that could get me back there is Oasis Reunited,
and they had their first show in Abu Dhabi.
But if you told me I could be in a Star Wars movie for two seconds,
I'm on that flight without even thinking about it.
Like immediately.
So, yeah, as far as I could go.
So there you have it, folks.
If you're looking to cast bob fox and any
of the movie franchises he loves you got him you have him you got me you don't got me i'll pay you
yeah um the x mansion in this movie is called the anglewood house in berkshire it's also in
match point the king's speech great expectations which i've never seen but now i always think of
into the spider verse when i hear great expectations easy virtue uh the black mirror episode play test uh the crown
and cruella cruella uh very underrated movie nobody really talked about it i feel like but
i think it was the best of the disney live action movies so it's a live action uh one
of the one done do they make cruella like a sympathetic figure like in Wicked or not a little bit yeah
but she's she's still a she's a villain
and it's Emma Stone and she's great Paul
Walter Hauser a guy him and he's like
her bumbling henchman in the movie
it's really good I'm a stone
fucking crazy to think
Jules from Superman has become
this award-winning monster
of an actress it's awesome I'm a huge emma stone fan
also the last little fun fact before we get into the meat and potatoes of this movie is that there's
about 1 150 vfx shots in the movie had to be outsourced to six different companies that they
used to make x-men first class and i gotta say the vfx in this movie pretty good for the most part
there's a few scenes here and there maybe when kevin bacon is uh sebastian shaw which is also the name of the guy
who plays yeah darth vader and it's confusing but when he does the energy thing when he sucks it in
some of that cgi looks a little wonky now but other than that a lot of the flying looks good
a lot of the stuff at the end the end battle looks good impressive i thought and to be fair to that sebastian saw stuff i remember not liking it back then so i think it's
like not even that it aged poorly i just think they couldn't find a good way to get it done
which there's times where it's like comic book to big screen there is a lost in translation side of
it i think that was one of the moments that uh played out like that i i saw this on the trivia did you see this one james mcavoy originally shaved his head yeah so i had that he's like i got cast as professor x like
let's see what the what the wind feels like on my scalp and they were like well you're gonna have
hair in this movie you know that right and he had to wear extensions for the first month of shooting
because he was waiting for his hair to grow back imagine
how dumb he must have felt showing up to set like do you like it oh that was great really funny
all right so let's get into the movie once again we open with magneto or eric being separated from
his mother during the holocaust they did a really good job here of intercutting scenes from the
first x-men and then scenes that they re-shot with a new actor playing young magneto so it's
spliced together and it's hard to tell what shots are from the first x-men what shots are re-shot
but very well done uh kevin bacon playing sebastian sh Shaw overlooking it all. And then you jump right to New York.
It sets the tone right away that this is going to be the story of Charles
and Eric.
And you jump to a young Charles Xavier meeting mystique.
And she has,
you know,
she's turned into his mom and they do a whole thing when she turns into
like young mystique.
I guess say she had little
baby grinch vibes oh that's actually a great call wow like there's part of me where i was just like
i know she's supposed to be like kind of like adorable in a kid way or whatever but i don't
know i was just a little creeped out by her what's the uh viral um tweet like me and
my friends would have beaten that bitch up with hammers like baby grinch i would have killed baby
grinch mystique with hammers me and my friends definitely like she is definitely like a little
it's not a mutant thing it's just she's baby grinch no yeah way to put it perfect way and
charles is stoked to meet her he's like oh my god
a mutant he read her mind you know he saw through her act right away and then you jump right back
to the like harrowing nature of shaw interrogating eric he's like trying to make him move this nazi
coin he's like move the coin he can't do it he's obviously trying but he can't then he brings in
his mother he's like all right here's what we'll do you count to three if you don't move the coin by then i'll just shoot her of course he counts to
three he's not able to do it in time shoots her and eric has his first rampage moment and the way
he caves those soldiers heads in by using their helmets metal af metal af even the first like jump cut in that scene where it's like on kevin bacon on the
kid on kevin bacon on the kid and then they cut to a side shot where you see all the saws
and knives and weapons they have hung on the wall in that surgery or experimentation room
and that's a fucking gut punch that's like oh shit also um brian cranston turned down the role
of sebastian shaw to be in drive kevin bacon did a great job in this movie but the thought of brian
cranston playing this nazi commander who turned super villain i think he would have nailed it
yeah that would have been pretty fucking good for brian cranston looking back when they show the
like surgery room i'm like all right that seems a little kind
of odd that there's a room just sitting there with like the window next to the guy's office
yeah like oh yeah this is nazis we're talking about so like that could have happened again
anything could happen with the nazis yeah fuck nazis very much fuck nazis anti-nazi podcast
pro killing nazi podcast so those guys fucking heads just caved in absolutely loved it i was
also like dude couldn't you just shot like his mom in the leg to see if that brought out the
anger like that would have pissed him off yeah but again nazis yeah nazis yeah and we'll get to it
i think this movie is one of the best nazi killing scenes ever yes a bit one of my favorite death
scenes of all time i was gonna say my favorite comic death scene of all time what do you think about
this one i'm not gonna put her in the same uh definitely won't put her in the same breath as
nazis however i forgot about this little tidbit here i don't know if it's the case in the comics
but uh charles xavier's mom sounds like she's kind of a C word, like just a rich bitch,
kind of like snobby.
Yeah.
Never,
never,
never be in the kitchen.
Yeah.
Like that,
you go to the mansion and professor X is such a cool guy.
Like,
Oh,
you must've had a nice childhood,
grew up with money,
but it was like the good rich people in the movie is not the evil rich
people.
And I'm not saying she's evil,
but she seemed like she was,
she probably would like, she probably would have beat a mystique baby grinch literally would have with her like
but with like a rich paddle or no she would have like two claps and then like the butler had a beat
up of the mystique with a hammer yeah he cuts a modern day like i said he still got the coin
throws it at the wall he's got got a picture of Sean as well.
So,
you know,
this is a totally a revenge story.
Once again,
maybe some stuff that they took from that Magneto origin movie.
And meanwhile,
Charles Xavier,
just trying to pick up babes at the bar.
He's hitting them all with his mutation.
Talk.
James McAvoy plays it.
So suave too.
And his quote unquote sister Raven mystique,
she played by Jennifer Lawrencerence totally cock blocks him she does the max scherzer eye thing the girl has and she's like oh you have
it too and he's pissed off because he's like you can't let people know you're a mutant and all that
but i love james mcafoy just as this kind of like womanizer charles xavier yeah and it is kind of weird when your pickup
line is like trying to find a mutation in someone it's like i'll kill the eye later on there's a
girl with like her hair is with her auburn hair oh you're a mule like dude that's just fucking
however then i'm like i'm like how do these pickup lines all work? Do you think Charles Xavier was like fucking mind roofing them with his powers?
I hope not.
You're accusing him of being Bill Cosby.
I hope not too.
I'm just saying.
No.
You can't tell me.
He's picking up all these beautiful, smart young ladies at the bar.
Did you see the guy?
He's good looking. And he's rich. That's the bar. Did you see the guy? He's good looking and he's
rich. That's the thing. He's rich.
I feel like you're like, alright, he's good
looking and he's rich. I'll laugh
off his mutation thing. I'm telling
you, at some point,
if he fails, it's going the wrong way.
I feel like he might be using the X-powers.
You can't put that demon thought
into the sky, bro.
You can't accuse Charles Xavier of that. This is your, into the sky, bro. I don't even use Charles Xavier that he,
this is your team.
This is my guy.
I know,
but this scene and these coach,
you know what?
I take it back.
I forgot about the beer drinking.
Thank you.
He's a dude.
He's a dude.
He's a dude.
I was,
I was out of pocket there,
Bob.
I was out of pocket there,
but come on,
come on.
The mutation thing is weird weird thing to leave with
And I know that's what he's saying
He probably did his thesis
But that's quirky
It's not like oh did you fall
Tennessee only 10 IC
It's not like a bad pickup line
It's like hey
And the girl immediately is like what are you talking about
And then she's in boom
Charles Xavier Scott
I don't know though man like those girls are out of like everybody's like even professor x's league i
think they're out of it yeah that's just me personally they're good looking i'm a professor
x guy those girls i don't you're as a professor x guys you are a nebraskan superman guy i'm looking
at a magneto helmet as i say this too it's kind of professor x guy yeah um also james mcavoy was gonna do like a patrick stewart impression in
this movie and matthew vaughn was like don't do that he's like just like nobody's gonna care about
that just do kind of a british accent also like moira was gonna do her scottish accents in the
comics she's like famously Scottish.
He was like, again, just ignore it.
Nobody's going to care.
Probably a good, good idea.
And he was doing an impression.
No, I didn't care at all.
I mean, I didn't even notice like the ignorant American in me is like British is British.
I just want to understand you.
That's basically my biggest.
Especially if I'm at the movie theater, I don't have closed captions.
I just want to understand you at this point i know british isn't british though because
when i met patty and molly from liverpool it was a lot of in everything's i was like whoa okay
british ain't british um also mcavoy and fast bender were previously in band of brothers now
i've never seen band of brothers i don't know if they have any scenes together.
I don't know if they knew each other in 2001,
but I thought that was kind of interesting
that 10 years later,
they're in another production together.
And it's set around World War II.
Another war thing, yeah.
And then it goes into the nukes
that come from after it.
I just watched Band of Brothers.
It was after my Oppenheimer run.
And I don't remember them being in the same scene.
I don't even remember them being in it.
Like, I have to, like, think about the characters and all that kind of stuff.
By the way, if you and for anyone who hasn't watched it, I'll say to what everyone was telling me for years, you got to watch it.
Just find out some time.
Watch the first episode.
Get it in.
You're never going to see Ross from Friends the same ever again.
But it's like
a fucking unbelievable unbelievable unbelievable watch and you just started shogun you said that's
awesome yeah i just finished ozark which was absolutely tense so uh the boys are moving
there's some show recommendations yeah we'll get some recommendations we might do a little
shogun talk i'm going to try to catch up at some point as well. It's cool. I'm two episodes in.
It's really, really cool.
Game of Thrones vibes.
People that have said that are correct in it.
I don't know how to think about that.
It's not the quality of Game of Thrones, but kind of the way that they're jumping around
at different factions and stuff like that.
Really worth a watch.
It's on Hulu, FX, stuff like that.
Where are we up to here in my notes we're up to um
so magneto finds a nazi bank i love this scene and he kind of tricks them into giving up
information about where some of the nazis are hiding out in argentina of course and he brings
them like the nazi gold at first totally plays a trick, but he rips the metal fillings out of this guy's mouth.
Gnarly scene.
And as someone that's dealt with like the root canals,
the wisdom tooth pain,
stuff like that tooth pain is the worst all time.
Worst.
Imagine Magneto just pulling fillings out of your mouth.
Bob,
what was that confirmed metal?
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's that confirmed metal yeah it's it's it's i i don't know i don't even know if the word's ironic or i think the word's just fitting it's fitting that i think
magneto is our current magneto's metal he has the most metal moments i mean clearly in this movie
and by the end of this pod i think he's gonna lead the league of metal moments because there's
multiple parts in this movie there There's a bunch more.
Him doing everyday villain shit.
I could have gone for like another 10 minutes of him trying to get information on people and then doing fucked up shit with whatever metal was on them, in them, or in the room.
I fucking love that.
Playing dentist?
As soon as he says metal fillings, I'm like, oh, Eric, you sick motherfucker.
By the way way speaking of metal
in the mouth shout out our girl sienna clem just got her braces off just got it oh nice that's huge
massive day uh it's phase one they do two phases when they're young and have braces so she might
have to do phase two after her baby teeth come out they have to see if the mouth will readjust
yada yada yada but her teeth are all banged up,
year later, looking great.
Had like, did you have braces?
No, never.
When you get them off,
everything feels like your gums.
It's a complete mind fuck.
And she was calling everybody up being like,
yeah, I was supposed to get my brace off today,
but I didn't get them.
But look at these like Easter colors I got.
Showed the teeth, teeth were no braces on,
all time great prank.
So big day for Sienna Clem.
Maybe throw, that would have been a great Magno thing make people have to wear braces throw braces in their
mouth tighten them up it's the worst i had braces for two and a half years the absolute pits damn
um then you go to vegas you watch moira spy on the hellfire club also uh an idea from uh richard
donner's wife lauren schuler donner she was the one to say i think the hellfire club also an idea from richard donner's wife lauren schuler donner she was the
one to say i think the hellfire club would be cool as villains in this movie they really work
in a 60s movie like later there's a lot of stuff with the boat and the submarine you get a bunch
of like four kind of like goofy looking villains together and it reminded me of the 1966 batman
adam west movie where you have everyone on the submarine
working together like all the villains you never thought would come together like this
so yeah that's what it kind of reminded me of i wonder if there was anything in them that was
like we're doing a fucking submarine 60s superhero movie like it's been done adam west there has to
be some somebody on some dvd commentary said like yeah because i remember it's
like the penguin right is he looking up the parachute there he is the penguin the joker
catwoman and the riddler it's like oh my god everyone's together you you know in batman you
would only get one villain and arc and this one it was the sinister six almost the sinister four
of batman yeah hellfire club is just,
just cool as shit.
People in the sixties,
just everyone just wears lingerie.
I was just a thing.
Like,
I don't know,
man,
the lingerie clubs.
Yeah.
Just seemed like a pretty fucking good time.
So I I'm down for it.
And I'm going to just say,
I'm going to say this now.
I'm going to say it now.
I'm going to get it out at some point.
I will probably say it again a little bit,
but I'm just going to get it all right now. Ready? Yeah say it again a little bit but i'm just gonna get it
all right now ready yeah january jones january jones january jones january jones january jones
bob we talked about january jones last week that's january jones right yeah she had you howling at
the moon oh hellfire club in my pants yeah emma frost yeah really really uh good casting there actually
wasn't the original person cast a player though alice eve was going to play emma frost
replaced by january jones and the vfx crew said she was the hardest thing to do in the whole movie
because every time they would make her translucent nice every time they would do the translucent
polygon effect or whatever,
they were like, it would look like she was made of jello.
It was very hard to make it.
So she didn't look like she was made out of jello.
Also, Rose Byrne was not the first person cast to play Moira.
That was Rosamund Pike, who was also considered to play Emma Frost.
The girl from Gone Girl, if you don't put a face to the name.
But the club you talked about, yeah, that weird lingerie club they get that colonel henry they bring him into the secret room i love
a secret room and anything ever you move a book the shakespeare thing from batman any of that
stuff i love it they talk about putting nukes in turkey obviously a big nuclear crisis thing um riptides uh hits henry with the
tornado i just wrote lame ass power when he hits him with the mini tornado and it takes like
30 seconds to even get over to him that is a cool power on a big scale it is such a lame
yeah and the boats when he uses it in in the sea that was cool but like it's almost like aquaman like we
gotta be in the sea for you to be cool and like they like he like tries to set him up that's just
uh shaw trying to like build his like uh confidence up he's like i'm gonna give this guy
so you gotta sometimes feed the big man you know give him an open dunk it's like he's doing all
the work on defense this guy probably is doing all like he's probably good with numbers he's
probably doing like the Excel spreadsheets
or, you know, he's the one doing the
as he is like a friend in the Russian army
that can get the nukes to launch. So it's like
just let him do his stupid power.
Lame as fuck. That takes
you out. I am, you have me
hook, line, and sinker. I am a fucking
at this point, I'm a red-blooded male.
I'm probably in my 20s. I'm watching
January Jones, Girls in Lingerie, Roseburn.
That's her name, right?
I got the fucking mutants in there.
I'm an experiment movie.
And then I see this lame fucking dork do like a little baby tornado.
And that was bad.
Like you could have thought of some other way to use wind.
Or like, come on, you give him an extra power.
No one's going to be like, oh, he doesn't have that in the comic books.
I don't think this guy even exists in the comic books.
That was bad.
He probably exists, but yeah.
You also meet Azazel here, played by Jason Ian Fleming, just a devil nightcrawler.
It's kind of silly, but he kind of works in this.
Kind of silly.
His, like, transporting power is, he looks so badass.
It's Mephisto, Mep's mephisto confirmed right and then he just
kind of is nightcrawler which did you see that that was in the trivia that in the marvel canon
him and mystique are the parents of nightcrawler at least in one of the universes i don't know
how it works so it's like that kind of makes sense is there his power her looks combined
it just seems almost too lazy for it to be real yeah um the war room that they
cut to with the nukes is set up uh like dr strange love it's a total homage to dr strange love a
classic movie that i have to admit i've never seen i've heard it right yeah um and i asked
around the office recently like does it hold up and a couple of the people that have seen it
clemmer included were like yeah i think it would hold up like it's very funny ken jack said it's one of those movies
you would watch and be like oh my god i understand where 50 references come from now like it's been
referenced to death i guess the simpsons i think always references it and i would probably make so
it makes so much more sense along with a bunch of other shit. It is one of those class, the bomb
scene. I don't even know
what it's about, but I just know I'm missing a
shitload of stuff with Dr. Dre.
And then the best scene
in the movie, in my opinion,
Magneto goes down to Argentina
to confront some of the Nazis
that he grew up with in Auschwitz.
And I
love the exchange between them.
When they're, where were you from?
Oh, so-and-so, what did you do?
What brought you to Argentina?
Oh, I'm a tailor.
I've been a pig farmer my whole life.
And then he goes and sits down with them
when they say, where's your parents from?
What are their names?
Are they from the same town?
What are their names?
Maybe we know them.
He says, they don't have names.
They were taken away by a pig farmer and a tailor. And immediately you know he makes the bartender shoot the tailor he kills
the pig farmer shoots him as well after stabbing him in the hand um he says he's frankenstein's
monster just looking for his creator an all-time scene in the, almost like a movie making scene.
Like you see this and you're like,
that was worth the price of my ticket.
A little like Tarantino in there,
a little Tarantino.
Totally,
totally.
And he's in,
in glorious bastards as well as a person fighting Nazis.
Maybe that's how it like triggered into my head.
What do you,
what is it?
Blood or honor?
Which one do you want to like lose first or give a first oh oh metal fucking magneto so good um shaw reveals his
powers on the boat with henry in that scene we said the cgs wonky could absorb the energy keeps
him young whatever i love to keep some young on they're like we didn't want to do the fucking
makeup just i know it's 20 years later he's just kevin bacon man were you like me when you're like wait a minute i forgot how old he looked back
like the concentration so i was definitely like doing mental gymnastics and then i'm like oh
that one line of dialogue you just solved all my problems yeah they skip over that um i love
the xavier mystique scene their magic trick mutant reveal to the government in front of
our good old pal from the bear oliver platt he's in fargo he's in the bear plays a cia agent in
this movie great actor one of those guys where he shows up and you're like all right i like the the
cut of this guy's jib i like his vibe fargo right i believe he's in season one of fargo as well
you can't go i never really knew much
about him and then ever since the bear i'm like that's my guy he's he's that guy he is one of
those that guy guys and shout out to the bear renewed for season four they will be shooting
season three and four back to back so they're they'll be ripping those seasons out just like
they did one and two i love it and i think it's gonna end up i think they're like not looking for
anything long so i think it's done after four which well i heard that season five is being considered already oh geez not
green lip but being considered before three even hey here's an episode they're like maybe we'll do
five um uh eric sneaks off the show's boat to kill him emma frost prevents it emma frost has
some telekinetic powers as well. Very powerful herself.
Magneto uses the anchor to rip the entire ship apart.
Huge action sequence.
One where the CGI holds up really well.
Then they escape via submarine.
Reminded me a little bit of you referenced Austin Powers before when like the Dr. Evil submarine comes down and it's like him like that.
Yes.
They get away.
Charles saves Eric.
And that's kind of like,
you know,
where they meet for the first time.
They start their relationship.
They're great action scene though.
The first like big action scene in the movie,
other than the shootouts and stuff like that with the Nazis.
Yeah.
Magneto just look at the,
he's so focused on killing and he's not thinking he might be killing himself by just
tracking them and yeah underwater magnetic jet ski is essentially he's trying to pull it back yeah
yeah um then you we meet nicholas holt as uh uh hank mccoy i wrote han mccoy i forgot the k
han mccoy like he's han solo hank mccoy um Beast, but he's not yet Beast. He just has hands for feet.
It's like a half Beast right now.
He's like just a little weird.
He's jumping around with his hands for feet.
Taylor Lautner, originally considered to play Beast,
couldn't make it work with his scheduling.
Then they hired Broadway actor Benjamin Walker to play Beast,
but he dropped out to be in some Broadway show
called Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson.
That's what you get when you hire a Broadway actor,
they're going to go leave you for Broadway.
Then they even cast Lucas Till who plays havoc in this movie as beast,
but I guess he didn't want to do the makeup.
So they were like,
all right,
we'll repurpose you.
We'll slot you here.
And Nicholas Hulk got the job as beast who obviously now we're anticipating
to play Lex Luthor and James Gunn's Superman movie.
And I liked him as Beast too, so I'm
happy he ended up getting that role over all these
others, especially the fucking
drama boy over there that had to do his
play instead of being an X-Men movie. Go fuck yourself.
I didn't really like the Havoc guy. I'll be
honest, I didn't even like the Havoc guy either.
Yeah, no, I didn't think he was great.
He's okay. He plays
the role of the asshole Summer's brother, Fine, which I'm was great. Eh, he's okay. He plays the role of the asshole
Summers' brother, Fine.
Which that's another comic
timeline change.
That Alexander Summers
is supposed to be Cyclops' younger brother.
Obviously, the timelines don't add up in this.
Yeah, exactly.
The Magneto helmet is actually
introduced by Shaw, and I like that.
I like that it's not something
magneto came up with it's something shock yeah you got it right there don't break it
um and it was made for him by the russians and uh did they call the russians the ruskies back
then was that one of the names for him i'd throw a ruski around a few times i was surprised they
didn't drop that in this movie like as I was watching I was expecting a ruski
To be thrown out there
At least one ruski would have been nice
Or a commie would have been good
They were very much communist with the Soviet Union
Come on talk like real people
That's taking me out of the movie now
I'm going to drop this whole letter
I was going to say speaking of real people
There was some real romance
On this set.
In the movie, Mystique and Hank McCoy spark up a romance.
In real life, Jennifer Lawrence and Nicholas Holt started dating, and they weren't the only couple to form from this cast.
James McAvoy, or not James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender and Zoe Kravitz started dating during production.
I did not know that.
Interesting little.
Zoe Kravitz plays angel
who we'll meet in a second in that montage you meet angel you meet darwin you meet havoc you
meet banshee you meet the whole team um great months i mean we could get right into it the
montage is amazing because it ends with one of the greatest cameos in marvel history
charles and eric going in to try try to recruit Wolverine and they walk up to
him.
He gives them a simple,
go fuck yourself.
And they walk right out.
It's a brief cameo.
It was an improv by Hugh Jackman.
They did seven or eight takes of him saying,
fuck off.
And then on like the ninth take,
he gave him a go fuck yourself.
And they had such a genuine reaction.
That's the one they used in the movie.
Awesome.
The whole montage.
This movie has like five different sections of it that I'm like, oh, that's from it's all from this movie.
I thought these were in other parts.
There's so many different this montage with the kids get together, obviously, the early stuff with the Nazi stuff and then the Shaw stuff at the end.
I thought some of this was going to be in days of futures past.
Like,
Oh,
that's all in this movie.
This is,
this covers a lot.
Our boy,
Matt Vaughn,
he packs the fucking punch in.
That's what he does.
Our goat.
I like when Eric goes to leave,
when he gets the information he needs from the CIA,
he's like ready to go.
Just find Shaw.
Charles talks him out of it. And then they kind of unite on the issue of needs from the cia he's like ready to go just find shaw charles talks him
out of it and then they kind of unite on the issue of not letting the cia get involved in cerebro
which was built by hank mccoy like getting the origin of cerebro as well on this movie
did you see cyclops in there playing with like the uh yeah or whatever he's got the glasses on
cyclops and rogue yeah or storm yeah storm You say not Rogue with the white hair.
Yeah.
I love the,
the,
like I said,
the college new friends energy they get when they're picking code names and
showing off their powers to each other.
Professor X and Magneto being assigned their names as they're so disappointed
is funny.
They're like,
Oh,
Jennifer Lawrence,
I want to call you Magneto.
You professor X.
And they're like,
clean this shit up. What the fuck? Like there, it's like dave when he gets mad at the office
they had that energy where they were like what are we doing around here you should be named
el presidente because you're the president now this that being how they get their names i don't hate it like i hate it in solo right yeah but it is
it's a little cheesy it's a little cheesy looking back now i don't think i even thought about it
when it happened in the movie but now that we live in this completely different world every
single line has to be picked apart i feel like this would have gotten like ripped apart if it
happened in 2024 well a scene that's coming up very briefly actually
is ripped apart from this movie little tease we'll get to that a scene from this movie has become a
total meme yes i love that meme by the way i also i i realized oh well actually i think we're thinking
of a different meme there's two memes double meme double meme when fucking emma frost takes turns her finger to diamond and cuts the fucking ice off of an
iceberg baller fucking move i one of my favorite one of my favorite uh scenes of all the x-men
it's just like you think she's just outside somewhere you're like yep they just fucking
submarine the middle of nowhere in the north pole got fucking santa claus in the background
rudolph flying to the air awesome scene i also love her scene where she gets the general to like agree to a bunch of shit
by obviously like playing mind games with him making him think that he's like about to have
sex with her and she's really just projecting herself and she's just bored on the couch
charles and eric burst in um charles being able to hide everyone in the back of the van
using his mind was a great like trick um also eric murdering the guards with the coils of barbed wire
fucking metal again brutal gnarly uh and they basically see shaw's perfect future by looking
into emma Frost's mind.
And it's kill all humans with nuclear war.
The mutants will survive because the radiation will not affect them as much, make them stronger, whatever.
And he's like, oh, fuck, we're in trouble.
This this guy Shaw is a problem.
Shaw then attacks the CIA base.
This is the scene that has kind of become a meme that I was talking about.
That's ripped apart by the comic community,
mainly the X-Men diehards.
Azazel comes in,
kills a bunch of CIA agents,
including our pal from the bear by just dropping them from the sky.
It's kind of crazy.
They have that great shot,
like the ET shot of them on the moon and then drops them.
And Shaw looks at,
this is a crazy, Shaw looks at Darwin when he says the word enslaved and they like they pause on that that was fucked that's fucked that's wild angel and darwin go with
shaw but darwin is actually hatching a plan with havoc that fails miserably and they kill darwin
this is the scene that's memed and tweeted over and over again as
they killed the only unkillable x-men like people hate this that you took the one x-man that adapts
to survival that's his mutant power in every comic like i think he's even like turned himself
into code to survive and his brain is in a computer at some point they introduce him by
being like i can't die and then kevin bacon comes and kills him i didn't know that um i didn't know that was a thing i've never seen
the me like the memeing and all that kind of shit that is it is like ridiculous though it's like
you're not too good at your superpower now i don't want to say he didn't have time to really
harness his power but i mean one little fuckingavoc ball of energy wrapped up tightly.
The only thing he got to do is he stuck his head in a fish tank.
That's the only thing they let him do this movie.
They're like, everyone else, all the other guys, people know.
Even Havoc, people know from X-Factor.
Fucking Darwin, see you later, dude.
They're like, you're lucky to even be in the movie, Darwin.
Lame-o fucking for uh super human super super uh hero uh random note i have uh
just shaw gets a fit and a half off when he goes to moscow when he's wearing oh yeah oh my god i
was like this guy same i i didn't put in the nose but i but I thought, oh, look at that. Oh, kill him. I brought bacteria up from like 15 years ago.
I didn't know that baby still lived in my head.
But man, he fucking pulled the shit off of that.
That looked good.
I want to go to Moscow one day just to get a fit off like that, a fur coat like that.
Yeah, because you can go over the top and you're wearing like the little hat or whatever and too much fur.
No, no, no, no, no.
Less is more when it comes to that.
And our boy sebastian
so i had it in spades in spades we get a quick scene of a young striker um and then a great
montage of charles just being a leader and kind of teaching everyone to hone in on their powers
teaching them how to how to even adapt and survive as a mutant and very comic booky transitions in this there's kind of
the panels going in and out showing people multiple times i love that shit when you do comic booky
stuff like that raven and hank contemplate taking the serum that'll make your mutant powers go down
for a little bit and mystique says mutant and proud she stays strong she's like i don't think
we should be doing this he says in a completely out-of-pocket line that she'll never be deemed beautiful
and he's like basically i only like you when you're jennifer lawrence
hank breaking jennifer lawrence's heart means he's not a genius he's not even a smart guy
he's a fucking moron who just had ugly feet. That's all he had.
He had a couple of big feet, which, let's be honest, when you're a mixed company, you're usually wearing at least socks.
Now, if you have big feet, you have big feet.
The one thing about big feet is there's only one thing that goes along if you have big feet.
It's you have a big dick.
So it's like the worst thing is people saying, that guy probably has a big dick. Yet this moron completely blows it with Jennifer Lawrence.
So I'm not going to even say mistake.
It's Jennifer fucking Lawrence in this movie because he had big feet.
Moron.
Moron.
I don't care if he built the fucking X-Wing or he did all this other shit.
He built a fucking little cure.
He built a cure.
He completely fucked it too.
Yeah, the X-Wing.
By the way, I was going to say this.
I'm on no dinner right now.
So this isn't as bad as the no coffee, but I'm on no dinner.
So that's the first.
I am too.
I'm with you though.
We're on hunger strike.
We're on hunger strike right now.
I was so angry with this young man.
And I know you're young, you're stupid, whatever.
But when fucking Jennifer Lawrence is like, turn around, you don't be like, you're not
beautiful right now. What are you talking
right now, you fucking...
That line was almost like
that line came off
like he was upset
that she didn't want to take the serum that he worked so hard
on, so he kind of like snapped.
You didn't have to say that. She was like, mutant
and proud, I want to be myself. And you got mad
at her for it? That's like one of the few missteps from hank mccoy to be honest
he doesn't have a lot that and uh he completely reversed his fucking uh syrup huge huge mistake
and he ejects himself with it yeah works for a second and then it turns him into beast also
beast's fur made out of arctic fox fur not in
the first scene obviously that's cgi when he sees foot in his hands but later on when he's got the
fur on his face also i think that could have been done better when he's got the fur on his face he
looks a little goofy i like the thing is that probably was like a hundred thousand dollars
of the budget i don't think he needed to go with arctic fox fur he could have probably found another
way to make it perfectly fine uh but yeah fuck this book you almost look like the
remember the little boy from land of the lost this is a reference that nobody's wow
yes yes that's a great line great i hated that little fucking kid too man you're now in the
little with the the grinch stuff and then the land of the lost kid land of was 60s, right? I'm kind of making a 60s comparison here.
I think the one I watched was an 80s reboot.
Might have been 70s.
But there was a 60s one as well.
I think the one I watched was the reboot.
That was one of Mama Fox's favorite shows, so she passed that one down to me.
Land of the Lost.
Great song.
Yeah, good theme.
So maybe that was.
All right.
That makes sense.
My mom.
I think my mom would be like eight and 74.
So that would make sense to be.
Yeah.
That's Land of the Lost.
Prime age to watch.
Yeah.
I think I watched it when I was probably eight years old as well.
The montage scene.
I love Charles kind of being the nurturing power and Magneto's kind of the like, I don't
want to say that he's the tough one who's challenging them he just pushes banshee like he pushes he's like
come on you were thinking it yeah dude that was so fucking funny he's and that's a great scene
when banshee flies for the first time like the score really works there you know you almost get
like a we're gonna do this we're a fucking team and i'll be honest out of all the x men or whatever you
want to call them at this point all the kids banshee was like his character was annoying
enough i'm like yeah just push his ass like having was number two on that list don't get me wrong
but banshee was definitely one like if that kid dies he dies who gives a fucking six he dies he
dies um i love the scene where michael fastbender and uh james mcavoy are talking over a couple
drinks and fastbender just rattles off a couple fucking all-time magneto lines,
one after another.
The fear will lead to hatred when he's trying to warn them
about the humans turning on the mutants.
He has this line at the end where he says,
peace was never an option.
That one gave me chills when he said it.
The delivery was so good.
I was like, fuck, this guy.
How do you not understand what he's saying
the whole movie it's like he's attacking fucking nazis he's afraid that the people are going to
come after the mutants guess what in the later movies he's going to be proven right in a lot of
ways the people are coming after the mutants there's a lot of times magneto was right hashtag
magneto was right charles has his moments too but Magneto was definitely right about a lot.
I tried to do my Sir Ian McKellen, like, what's the line he said again?
That peace was never an option?
Peace was never an option, Charles. And it's not that good.
It's not bad. It's not bad, though.
I was saying it out loud during the movie,
and I was doing my different impersonation,
and I sounded a lot like Patrick Stewart, which was the problem the problem like you can't sound like professor x when you're doing
so tough tough break for me then we get the meme that uh i assume the meme you were talking about
before the meme you love the i said the real raven it's the perfection great meme as well also
he was being a cock block the whole movie the first time they
went to kiss he was sticking his head in there he was just kind of a miserable guy which again
understandable i get it he was miserable for a reason yep and i you definitely know we get the
vibes when you see magneto later in the first movies with mystique look up there was probably a relationship there probably
a few crazy nights and whatever uh and it all goes back to that it also is kind of creepy i'm like
wait a minute and then i'm like when he says you're too young i'm like shit how how old is
she supposed to be in this movie because this is this is very weird now yeah i love the x-men suits
in this movie first time they went with the blue and yellow on the big screen, obviously.
They didn't go with like the brightest blue and yellow, but they went pretty bright.
Like I think brighter than most comic book movies were going at the time.
And I remember appreciating that the second I saw it in the trailers or whatever, like, oh, my God, they're doing the real suits.
That's like the sort of thing that the general audience probably won't care about.
But that could make a comic book fan buy tickets to go see it i imagine the discourse after the first
three movies with all the black suits and kind of just no life and i also appreciate like you see
the yellow and the blue and i imagine you'll be thinking like what the fuck it is okay if you can
you know like live through a g-force or whatever then you can complain about it because it is kind of like those outfits in real life are ridiculous
but they look good in a comic book right so i appreciate and them setting it in the 60s helps
too because it kind of looks like that like i think of is it fallout has that like the nuke
boy or whatever is their logo and he's wearing like a blue and yellow suit kind
of like the x-men suit yep yep um i like the final action sequence they obviously get a little crazy
with it um but i think it's pretty great pretty well done especially for them having to reshoot
a bunch of stuff uh magneto lifting the submarine just fucking rules um i like beast versus azazel
them matching up you know match up the hero and villain that
are kind of parallels of one another the beast the weird looking guy the blue the red
um and there's a lot of like i said fist to fist combat not a lot of big power combat
it's a lot of like fights him and you know eric and shaw in the fucking little enclosure all stuff like that very well done
in keeping the emotional weight of the movie throughout the third act yeah the the way
everyone kind of pairs off it works pretty well there's a couple i did not love angel
in general in this movie uh yeah she's weak she's weak for sure the spitting is kind of weird the
wings creep me out i think it's like the fly wings just creep me out a little bit.
Yeah, I don't like the fly wings either.
Tornado guy, absolute stinker.
Just stinks.
Lame.
All sides of things.
Emma, you know, we never get Emma Frost just doing really cool shit at all.
She just disappears basically for the rest of the movie, which stinks for many reasons.
But yeah, the whole back and forth also that uh
how charles stops the russians from going through the line by shooting a missile at the nuclear
warhead boat which is a banana in general but nonetheless gets the results the poor russian
bastard who like they think he lost his mind that dude just a fucking gun to the head just dead
just murder that poor guy i felt so there's no explaining that yeah yeah no explaining that
and also sebastian shaw you can't just say i'm sorry for what i did to you when you're
when you when you did to him was you had him in a concentration camp and you killed his mom
like that's two fucking big notes so like kids being i'm sorry you have to like try to go with some sort of things and
again following orders magneto doesn't want to hear that and i like that moment there's very
cool moments like when he takes all the missiles and he throws them back where he's like i've been
you know people following orders their whole lives you just realize how fucked up human beings are
and you're like yeah you it's kind of like you that's my favorite thing about the x-men in
general for all the x-men stuff is you kind of see both sides for xavier and magneto they're both
not right 100 but they're both not wrong 100 either there's greys yeah and i love the death
of sebastian shaw like so satisfying with coin, just slowly going through the forehead and counting a three and everything.
That was,
I think at one point it doesn't question I got wrong.
So it'll haunt me forever.
Like,
I think,
I don't know if it was with you.
There was a comic book category.
I think it was playing someone that was also well-versed in comics.
And Jeff said like,
how does Magneto kill Sebastian Shaw at the end of first class?
And I was like, doesn't he, like, put something through him?
But I couldn't remember it was the coin.
And now I'll never forget it was the coin.
I've never forgotten.
That's one of my, I think this is my favorite death.
The coin through the head is my favorite death scene in any comic book movie ever.
Because it's killing pure evil with pure evil the
fucking coin right yeah and the fact that it's just like so basic it's slow motion of like a
gunshot through the head it's slow motion and it just comes out right on the other side just some
blood nothing too graphic and it just falls he falls oh and then he takes him up and he has
almost like crucified when he leaves yeah it's fucking
that is cinema origin of magneto show that to cinema he'll be fucking kissing his pants even
more than usual when he sees that scorsese cinema meme this is cinema um then an unforgettable scene
follows it up where charles catches a bullet to the spine paralyzing him
and it's off of an eric deflection such a fucking good origin such an amazing magneto's the reason
charles is paralyzed their breakup on the beach when he's looking at moira this is all your fault
and charles like this is all your fault what the fuck are you talking about that is an amazing
split that honestly sets up for like the
greatest rivalry in comics other than batman and the joker and you get it after that you're like i
understand why they each went their separate ways it makes sense um the finale that they shot on the
beach was shot in december by the way there were no onlookers because of this it was so fucking cold
and it was so cold that all the palm trees died so they had to bring in space heaters for them and paint the dead leaves of the palm trees green
so a lot of the palm trees you see in the background are dead but they're painted bright
green to look like they're uh alive and well there has to be there had to be an easier way to do that
like come on i saw that i was like come on what is going on here right now and yeah greatest rivalry in comic history other than superman alex luther you're 100 right i just i i also loved um i loved which
i was like no it's your fault eric and it's like are you just saying that because you're
trying to get with moira right now because i still like that that amber hair you know yeah
i got my chance with a mutant
over there and her only mutation she got auburn hair yeah like charles even even when charles was
talking about steaky's like put some clothes on and i understand why he's saying that but at the
same point i understand why she takes offense to it and i'm like charles like do you just like
mutants if it's just auburn hair is that your kind of thing i feel like i'm going
on an anti-charles uh path right now but that when that happens i remember the movie theater just was
like hush and it was like that's a hell of a way to be the origin for charles being stuck in the
wheelchair forever and you're like all right we're gonna fucking roll with this this was a great way
to reboot the franchise and it feels like there's real progress being made so that was like an oh fuck moment and i'm gonna be interested to see
what we get with that from you know the future x-men movie if they're gonna dive into i kind
of wish that they had xavier and magneto together more and younger you know what i mean where they
really had spent years and years together um but i guess i'm just excited about the x-men in the
future and when he takes the bullet to the spine i feel like you probably know where they're going right
away yeah but james mcavoy's delivery of i can't feel my legs is so good that like you're like oh
fuck it's it's setting in like it's for real this is how it happened yeah um and then they have that
ending scene the cia is no place for a woman there's
the disturbance it's magneto breaking emma frost out of prison there's the little thing between
moira and charles xavier where she's like i don't remember i just remember palm trees a beach a kiss
and you set up this new universe uh imdb says there was a body count of 74 in the movie i don't
know if that was true but maybe 74 people died in this i thought that was worth mentioning that boat and that boat took a fucking
hit right there's a good amount of people on that boat those so how do you tally that up you know
how many people were on the boat we don't know how many workers it's like how many people were
on the death star working on the sanitation some nerd was like what is the what were the average
amount of workers if you were transporting nuclear war transporting they might have went to the actual ship that was transporting nuclear warheads and if they
had like a crew count they're like right that the cia they lose a bunch of people right so that's
they do that's a bunch by azazel yeah yeah drop it from the sky how about that one guy he's like
leave us normal people on the mutes are behind the door that's crazy that was fucked we deserve to die yeah definitely
deserve to die uh so 74 i thought was like high but then i'm thinking about it like it might be
about right um we lost fucking darwin that fucking jerk yeah and then the credit sequence another one
where like it's very 007 the actual credits i was watching that like all right yeah they once
again use that influence um another just note that i forgot to mention throughout the movie
you mentioned that mystique lesson becomes more and more of a character in these movies but also
wears less and less makeup in every movie because jennifer lawrence was like this is fucking crazy
in this movie a lot of the makeup and prosthetics that she has on are Rebecca Romijn's from the original X-Men movie.
They reused them.
So I thought that was kind of like a cool thing that they had them in stored somewhere in a vault.
I'm sure they still do.
And they were able to repurpose them for a very good looking mystique.
Then you get down to like the Dark Phoenix movie.
They like powdered her face blue and gave her like a couple jewels on her forehead.
It got bad,
but for,
for now,
you know,
we're not talking about those bad movies.
We're talking about a good movie today.
And first class is a great one.
Would you say this is the highest on your list for X-Men movies or is X2
higher?
It's like one,
a one B for me,
I would say one,
a X2.
And it's only one a from a nostalgic point of view for that cast and
remembering that movie as a kid this i think is a better movie to be honest i think it's probably
the best made x-men movie yeah i think i'm gonna put this one just because i again there's so many
different fun parts and you get so much of the Magneto stuff, and you get the young kids.
You have all the Nazi bullshit, the historical stuff with the cube.
I think this is one for me.
I think this is number one.
Did you remember to do your awards today?
So I did.
Oh, Bob, let's go.
What would you like to start with, MVP, LVP?
Yeah, go with VP first.
MVP is an easy one for me. It magneto michael fast bender it would
be between mcavoy and fast bender but the revenge scenes put it over the top specifically the scene
in the argentinian bar he makes that character so fucking good but so understandable as a villain
um do you want to do your mvp and then we'll do lvps yeah sure so i mean i'm
realizing the the reason why i think they almost like i was saying the next iteration x movies you
can't just have magneto always being the big bad or such an important role because he's such an
important part of these movies but he's so fucking good at all these movies he's such an important
part of the x but i think he's could it's like LeBron James. Could have always won MVP back in the day, and he just gets sick of it.
So my MVP, I'm going to go a little bit of a path.
We're going January Jones, January Jones, January Jones, January Jones.
I knew it.
I saw it coming a mile away.
You saw it.
I saw it with the Cerebro, bro.
I was like in your mind with it.
LVP is an easy one, right?
Are you with me on this? another kind of three one two three tornado guy yeah riptide yeah sorry i forgot his name i i wrote it down when they said
it i go oh that's his fucking i wrote i wrote henchmen in general and i'm like you know as
zazzle the devil guy i'm like it's kind of cool when he
like kills them with different ways yeah he at least has that scene yeah and when he comes in
the room you're like oh this guy we're like this is gonna be a problem with riptide i'm just like
get the fuck off of my screen right now dude you're taking up someone else's lines havoc
getting off scott free by the way all time yeah any other time he probably would have been the
lv or like you could even put darwin in there i really like the actor that plays darwin i even
like the way he like reacts to the group and he's like i think darwin's my nickname it works like
survival of fittest or whatever but yeah he he just he's a nothing he puts up a zero burger
his one power is to not die which he then dies and he just does it so maybe you're
not even a mutant maybe you're just like a weird guy maybe you just had a superpower that
and then as far as a fast food review i hope you'll like this i'm going with the son of the
baconator you reinvented it you brought it back a couple years it's not the baconator. You reinvented it. You brought it back a couple of years. It's not the Baconator.
It's a little younger.
It's the son,
but it's still perfect.
And admission that I've made in the basement before,
I can't put down a full Baconator anymore.
I have to do the son.
So it is what it is.
Or actually,
is it the Baconator junior or is it the son?
Is it the son of a whopper?
And it's the Baconator junior.
I think it's junior.
Yep.
This is like, this could be a dozen
questions for me at some point. I've been
called two days in a row
by different phone friends.
I know. Well, yeah.
Son of Baconator.
It's out by now. You were a phone a friend against me.
That hurt. I just found that
out today. I didn't know who I was.
You don't know who they're playing against.
No, I know no so i got a
call from ken jack and ken jack has helped zd he the most infamous uh get fucked yeah was helping
us against the yak i would have at least had to think about it if i saw your beautiful face on
the other screen but it was a phone call not a thing i was yelling yeah you'll see in the dozen
match spoilers for the dozen for this just one. I was screaming at the top of my lungs.
Like Clem,
don't answer.
It's me.
It's me.
I feel terrible.
I feel absolutely terrible.
It is what it is.
It was,
it was a very good match.
Go watch us versus Smokin.
The big screaming honkers versus Smokin.
That's it for X-Men.
I got my fast food review.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I almost forgot.
That's all good.
My fast food. It's in Wendy's as well. How about that? review. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I almost forgot. That's all good. My fast food.
It's in Wendy's as well.
How about that?
No,
very happy.
That worked out.
Mine is the current Wendy's biggie meal.
So if you go to Wendy's,
you get the little $5 biggie.
Have you ever gotten this?
No,
it's you go with the,
it's crazy.
Your order,
you're going Baconators and son of Baconators.
This little scrawny thing,
big oldm here.
I'd go with the Wendy's $5 Biggie Meal.
What you get is, I'll do the double stack.
You get your little double stack.
You get four-piece nuggets.
You get a little fries, and you get a drink.
For $5?
For $5.
This is a Wendy's commercial.
It's on real price.
Sponsor the show.
It might be $6 now if you go double stack.
$5 for if you do it. It go double stack five seven seven would be a
good price it's tremendous bob it takes you back to a simpler time just like this x-men movie does
and it has everything you want it has action it has drama it has killing nazis it has everything
it's perfect so it's the wendy's big email for me and again back in the day
toes fucking they had the wendy's the yellow fries and i meal for me And again back in the day Toes fucking they had the Wendy's
The yellow fries
I'm sure like you didn't live through these times Bob
It was as magical as everyone says
I remember the yellow fries
I lived through that for sure
Biggie size was a beautiful thing
And that jerk from fucking Super Size Me
Ruined it for everybody
It was all bullshit too did you hear about that
He was eating unhealthy he was on on drugs. He's drinking.
And America
suffers for it. Horrible.
America does suffer.
The reason why supersized meals
existed in the first place, you remember?
Jurassic Park.
Come on, Jeff D. Lowe, give me that
question. People think we get
easy questions on fucking ZD.
We might. Alright. That was x-men first class in our
series to recap a bunch of the x-men movies i don't say all of the x-men movies but i say a
bunch of the x-men movies in the lead up to deadpool versus where deadpool and wolverine
um this july i'm very excited for deadpool and wolverine these movies recapping them are just
making me more excited because i'm like who are we we going to see from these? Um, who was it today? Uh, James Marsden just said today,
it was like, Oh yeah, I was filming Sonic three right next to the studio where they were filming
Deadpool and Wolverine kind of hinted towards I'm coming back. So get excited. Once again,
hashtag X pals is our hashtag for this week. If you made it to the end, hashtag X pals and
let us know where you would rank first class as far as, you know, all of the X-Men movies.
We have it towards the top, if not at the top.
So it's high up there because of our King Matthew Vaughn.
And by this time next week, we'll have X-Men 97 back in our lives.
We'll have some fresh material to discuss along with, at some point we have.
So what would you say left we have definitely
days of futures past yeah definitely have logan logan maybe we could loop in a little bit about
origins and the wolverine the two wolverine solo movies i don't want to do fucking dark phoenix and
apocalypse i refuse i simply refuse to do either yeah bob i refuse that would they would be
miserable podcasts guys not only would i quit this show if i had them i would quit barstool sports
i would quit on the spot hey but you know what today as this is coming out friday march 15th
madame webb is out digitally so oh yeah there is something in me that's like, I know I said I was banning them in theaters.
I was rebuking them in theaters.
But I also admitted when it comes out on digital, I might pop an edible and watch it.
That might be something I do this weekend.
I saw the clips.
You sent me the clips on Twitter of some of the awful stuff.
Yeah.
And it is so bad.
It's great.
It's so bad. It's it really is yeah but it's like i don't
want to spend 15 on it and then i'm yeah get to the theater i don't get that much free time as
it is with kids and then i'm watching a terrible movie but you throw it out in the background you
just laugh at it pointing and laughing i could definitely do that so what's do you know what
that's coming out on uh i think like all like rental service movies
so it'll come out on digital tomorrow also today as we're recording this march 14th uh star wars
battlefront the classic collection has dropped unfortunately it's dropped to a bunch of negative
press and reviews because the online isn't really working, which sucks. I'm staying optimistic that they'll
boot up better servers and get
that working. There's a big part
of me that's also like, I want to play the instant
action against the computer. You could set up
massive extra,
they call them XL matches,
where you're on Hoth against
60 computers and you got 60 people
on your team. There's enough good
stuff in there where
the online would be a major major plus and a major bonus but i've been playing battlefront
without the online for 15 years so i'm still very excited about it i'll get into it tonight
i'm happy for you bob i'm happy for all the nerds and if i get into battlefront i'm gonna wait till
everything's up and running you tell me you know it's clear so i'm gonna you're gonna have to be
my uh protocol droid who lets me know everything's yeah or no what are You tell me, you know, it's clear. So I'm going to, you're going to have to be my,
uh,
protocol droid who lets me know everything.
Yeah.
Or no,
what are those?
I'll let you know the odds of the servers being up.
All right.
Thank you for watching.
Thank you for listening.
Hashtag X pals.
And we'll see you next week to talk about X-Men 97 and some nerd news.