My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 34 - ISRAEL "THE LAST STYLEBENDER" ADESANYA

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

UFC Middleweight Champ Israel Adesanya joins Robbie this week for an awesome interview about adjusting to life as a champion, reaching a level of superstardom that few have in mixed martial arts, his ...philosophy as far as selecting opponents goes, and obviously, the ongoing social media war between he and Jon Jones. Don't think some nerdy shit wasn't covered, either.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Israel, the last stylebender Adesanya. He dropped by last week, he was a real needle mover in the office when I told people, you know, stylebenders coming in. People were losing their minds. He is the biggest star of the UFC right now. I mean, Conor's obviously about to make his return maybe, but other than Masvidal Diaz, I think it's Stylebender. And he was a great interview. He's a really, really cool guy, even off mic, off camera. He shook everybody's hand. He introduced himself to everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:38 And I'm really looking forward to you guys hearing this interview. I've still been loving Watchmen like I talked about last week. We kicked off our recap series. We're doing little recap videos for each and every episode the Monday after the episode premieres. So if you're listening to this, the odds are good that myself, Jeff D. Lowe, and Ken Jack of Lights, Camera, Barstool, our movie podcast, have already done and uploaded our recap to BarstoolSports.com.
Starting point is 00:01:04 So go check that out if you've been watching Watchmen I haven't felt this way about a show since I want to say like the early Walking Dead seasons the way that I'm so excited for this every Sunday night um there was one moment this week though where it was like I was kind of losing my mind because the Nightsister this isn't a huge spoiler for the show but the N i was kind of losing my mind because the night sister this isn't a huge spoiler for the show but the night sister kind of is looking back into her own ancestry and her own backstory and she breaks into this building where she can basically look into her family tree in an almost r2d2 like holographic sort of way it was very cool the way they did it. But she breaks in and she was so flippant
Starting point is 00:01:47 about just like taking her sweet ass time finding this out. It looked like almost a museum or a government building. No alarm sounded, no nothing. I don't see how that could even happen with numbers as crazy as 2 million burglaries a year and one every 13 seconds.
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Starting point is 00:02:44 isn't that way, so that's why it's my top choice. I mean, their police dispatch is up to 3.5 times faster because they use video verification as well. But even if that weren't the case, I mean, there's no contract. There's no hidden fees. It blends right into your home. There's no wires. There's no drilling in the installation. It was easy to order, easy to set up.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I mean, I set the whole thing up. It says under an hour in the ad read. I set mine up in under 15 minutes, I think. And SimpliSafe has also won a ton of awards from the CNET to the New York Times Wirecutter. The prices are fair and honest. I mean, I don't know what more I could tell you about SimpliSafe that I haven't over the last few months. This is my top choice for home security. If you visit simplisafe.com slash mom right now, you'll get
Starting point is 00:03:25 free shipping and a 60-day risk-free trial. You've got nothing to lose by doing so. Go now, make sure you go to simplisafe.com slash mom. Make sure you put that in as well. Slash mom, so they know our show sent you. That's simplisafe.com slash mom, M-O-M. Get yourself some home security. Don't be like this stupid government museum building weird ancestry thing from Watchmen. Other than that, I really loved the episode. Go check out our recap now. Over the last week, other than catching up on Watchmen, I finally finished Succession. Really liked that.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I shouldn't say finished. I should say I caught up on that as well because it is only season two. They're gearing up for season three, I'm sure. I listened to a whole lot of All Time Low. All Time Low, my favorite band, put out a re-recording, a 10-year anniversary re-recording of Nothing Personal, which is my favorite album of theirs, probably my favorite album of all time, and it's really awesome. I would recommend checking that out. If you're a fan of pop-punk music it is a must listen. It's called It's Still Nothing Personal. It's on Spotify and all that stuff. I finally signed up for TikTok. TikTok scares the shit out of me. It makes me feel super old. I don't understand 99% of the jokes that are going on. But TikTok is a pretty big
Starting point is 00:04:39 social media platform. Our TikTok, the Barstool Sports TikTok, is now like bigger than the Barstool Sports Twitter, I think. So I was like, ah, Jesus, if, you know, if Dave is saying it, it's probably true. Dave has proved over the last decade that he knows where the internet is going, when it's going. He's got that Gretzky thing where he knows where the puck is going before it's going there. What did Gretzky say? I don't go where the puck, I don't go where the puck is. I go where it's going to be. I'm on TikTok. Fox Talks. F-O-X-T-O-K-S. I don't know what I'm going to do with it yet. I need some suggestions. I don't know if I should cave and just start making those crazy TikToks that look like they should be in K-pop videos or what. I have one TikTok uploaded now where I was basically just trying to make fun of two people for doing a photo shoot on the roof across from my building.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And then one of them got up on a ledge and I thought he was going to fall to his death. It was actually extraordinary timing by me, basically. I'm patting myself on the back, but I felt like it was like something straight out of Planet Earth. Go check it out on TikTok, I guess. Fox Talks. And give me some suggestions of what you want me to make. If you want me to make MMA-related TikToks, I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:05:48 If you want me to make nerdy shit, if you want me to talk about Avengers, if you want me to make fun of comic book movies, Star Wars, stuff like that, let me know about that. I mean, let me know for the podcast as well. I want to know if you guys care more about the MMA stuff, if you like that, if you want more of the nerdy stuff with Clem, if you want that to be more structured, where it's like once a week, we do have a sit-in with Clem, once, you know, maybe twice a month, whatever you want, let me know. Always let me know on Twitter, at Robbie Barstool. Let me know on Instagram. Let me know on TikTok now. Let me know wherever you could reach me. I always want feedback for the show. That's it for Fox Talks.
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Starting point is 00:09:59 This is not just a Tommy John guarantee. I guarantee. Robbie guarantees this will be the most comfortable underwear you have ever worn. All right. I have made you guys wait long enough. I've made you suffer through my little intro here. Please enjoy this sit-down with Israel, the last stylebender Adesanya, the UFC middleweight champion of the world. I will talk to you on Friday with an exclusive sit-down with Ken Shamrock,
Starting point is 00:10:27 the world's most dangerous man. Enjoy. All right, welcome back to the show. I am joined now in studio by one of the most special guests we've ever had on this show with the gold on the table, Israel, the last stylebender, Adesanya. How are you doing, my man? I'm great, my man. Whatender, Adesanya. Probably can't say some of them on here. Oh, it's a podcast. Say whatever you want. We're not on TV. Yeah, no networks.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, it's just been cool being out here, feeling the vibe, meeting a lot of different people I haven't really met before. Even went out to Connecticut yesterday, did the ESPN HQ. I did a lot of media. It was like 8 a.m. to 9 p.m., 9.30, finish p.m. And, yeah, it was crazy, but it it's light work are you enjoying the grind of media and being a champ and all that see you have to enjoy if you don't make you know light of it then it's gonna it's gonna drain on you uh but i mean i brought my pillow on the on the bus and i had a couple naps even on the couch at espn and yeah it's just one of those things that I've always expected.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I always knew it was going to happen. So I factored it in and I made sure, you know, you get this ready for it. That's the main thing because a lot of people get drained by that and it zaps the life out of you. They talked about that with like Rhonda, right? They said at the end, maybe she was doing too much media. She had her brain too much focused elsewhere. How are you going to make sure that that doesn't happen with you?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Obviously, everyone wants to interview you. Everyone, you're the guy right now. I pick and choose. I pick and choose. And right now, I'm not really in camp, you know, so I can just spread my wings. I don't want to get spread too thin, but, you know, there's enough of me to go around. All right. So speaking of not being in camp, speaking of things other than the UFC, the name of this show is My Mom's Basement.
Starting point is 00:12:26 We talk about a lot of nerdy shit. Definitely. And a question that I like to ask every guest is what makes you geek out? What is it for you that you kind of become a kid again? What makes me dance? Like watching someone kill off a circle, like a battle, that geek, like you see me lose my shit. You know how black people celebrate i'm extra super super extra like i run around rolling on the ground like i'm catching
Starting point is 00:12:50 the holy ghost if someone like kills something off like to a tight beat it's crazy for me dance is it is it anime for you as well yeah i mean like i mean when i saw fucking guy sensei when i saw him hit the you know the eighth gate when he opened it yeah i cried because like well boy tears because like they had this you know whole monologue for like a whole episode of his upbringing with his dad and him not being good enough because he didn't have any um you know uh what do you call it he didn't have any ninja too and he all he had was tiger too so he had to really work hard to smoke everybody else so yeah when he opened the eighth gate and he just became the red mist of the hidden leaf village that that hit me in the feels i haven't
Starting point is 00:13:32 i got chills thinking about it right now wow yeah so i talked to the submission radio boys who are down from australia they call it and i'm over there in australia i talked to them recently and they asked me who I would think would be best for you to play in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And it was a tough question for me because I was like, I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I eventually settled on any villain for the new hero, Shang-Chi, because he's the martial artist. And I said, maybe you create a new villain for you. Yeah, I can. And I want to know your answer
Starting point is 00:14:04 as to who would you want to know your answer as to who would you want to play? Superhero or super villain? I'd say villain. I like to play a villain
Starting point is 00:14:11 or anti-hero. That's why I fuck with Deadpool a lot. Ooh, ooh, hello. Is this going to be a live action? Yeah, they're doing live action in the MCU.
Starting point is 00:14:21 It'll be the first Chinese superhero that they have and it's going to be focused on martial arts entirely. That's right up my alley because, you know, we're hoisting the Indian jungle. in the MCU. It'll be the first Chinese superhero that they have and it's going to be focused on martial arts entirely. That's right up my alley because, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:27 I fuck with the culture in China over there. What did you just say in Mandarin right there? I speak a little bit of Chinese. Oh, wow. A little bit of Chinese. It's not as good as it used to be. If you don't use it, you lose it. Why did you learn Chinese
Starting point is 00:14:42 in the first place or Mandarin? I lived in China for a little bit. I was fighting there. Well, I fought there on and off. I think 2011 was my first trip to China. I fought there, like going back and forth. And eventually I moved there in 2013, September. I came back to New Zealand around May 2014.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And, yeah, in my time in China, I fought over 20 times in that year. Holy shit, in a year? Yeah, I mean, I'm smart with the way I do it, with the way I work. So, yeah, just being over there, you kind of get immersed in the culture. I'm not one of these guys who just go over there and expect them to cater to me. I try and immerse myself in the culture a little bit. And, yeah, I did. I mean, I lost it, though.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Maybe if I had a Chinese girlfriend, I would have kept it or something. Why is kickboxing so different from mixed martial arts in that you could fight 20 times in a year? Well, the gloves definitely help, but it's not really with that. It's just my style. I'm smarter than most people when it comes to fighting because it's hit and don't get hit. Yeah, you don't take a lot of damage. Yeah, you know, it's the pretty ones you got to watch out for. But, you know, a lot of people play it dumb because they decide to sit in the pocket
Starting point is 00:15:51 and bang and try and show how tough they are. But tough just means you get hit a lot in my eyes. And I am tough. I mean, you saw my fight with Kelvin Gaslam. I'm very tough. But, again, I got hit a lot in that fight. So with that mentality, what was your take on this whole BMF championship thing? Because it kind of feels like they were rewarding that fighting style, right?
Starting point is 00:16:11 Yeah, I think it was just a thing. I don't want to say it was a gimmick for the story, you know, the West Coast gangster versus the, you know, Dade County, Miami gangster. And I just didn't think the UFC should have got involved because this is the real belt. This shit right here is the real. That wasn't in my weight class, by the way. But, I mean, I just feel the UFC shouldn't have got involved. They should have let the boys settle it.
Starting point is 00:16:34 They should have let them create their own crown or belt or whatever. But the fight was cool. I mean, I'm a big fan of both guys. I've been watching them for years, like back in the day. So, yeah, it was a fun fight. The doctor was just a little bit too soft. Yeah. I mean, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:16:51 We can't write the word the baddest motherfucker on a cut. Oh, no. Abubu. I know. And Nate, fucking the guy bleeds. He's the just bleed guy. Exactly. So you got to let him go.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And he was already coming back in the third round. So who knows what would have happened in the fourth. Maybe Jorge and him could have elevated and it would have been cool, man. It would have been cool just to see it go all the way through, but yeah, shit happens. All right, so let's talk about your championship victory this year. Take me through that day, the day that you fought Robert Whittaker, from the morning to the fight.
Starting point is 00:17:21 What was that like? It was my championship victory. That, yes. This was your first defense, correct? My man. See, you've been doing your research. Oh, yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:17:29 That's what it felt like. Like, when I won the belt in Atlanta, it felt like, yes, I won. I kept on saying, like, if you look on the belt, there's no interim. You know, there's no interim. Like, I've been the champ, and the guy who was supposed to be the champ has been calling in sick. So, yeah, I stepped up, and i was the quote-unquote interim champ so i defended my quote-unquote interim championship so now i'm the double interim champ um conor mcgregor had a very similar experience by the way because when he won his interim championship against chad mendez
Starting point is 00:17:58 as a fan of conor i felt like that was the big victory and And the Jose Aldo one was almost a celebration fight. 13 seconds. Exactly, yeah. 12 seconds, proper 12, isn't it? Hey. No, but yeah, that day. Actually, after the wins, things were a little bit weird in Atlanta. So I kind of just went into my shell a little bit. And then the day of the fight, I came out of my shell.
Starting point is 00:18:25 If I remember correctly, the fight was in the evening. So I pretty much just slept all day, watched Netflix all day. I don't really like to think about the fight. I just zone out on other shit and then get to the arena. You keep it off your mind? Yeah, I mean, I'll sleep in. But a lot of people tend to, what do they call it? Paralysis over analysis.
Starting point is 00:18:44 That's when you overthink something too much. And then after a while, you can, yeah, you freeze or you shut down or you get stage fright or you choke, choke, choke. And I never want that to happen to me. So I just kind of just zone out about other shit. And then, yeah, the fire happened the way it happened. The first round, I'll tell you, when I got rocked in the first round i remember thinking oh shit that shouldn't have happened but my ass never hit the ground straight away i retook the center of the cage and i started working again and the second round i dropped him you know and i let them know
Starting point is 00:19:13 hey just because he's a tough mexican as everyone was saying doesn't mean he can't get touched and yeah i let him i let it be known i've got that power as well that precision and the third round i was just him, cracked him with a spinning elbow and some other cool shit. And then in the fourth round, yeah, he made a really beautiful chest move by throwing a high kick, something that he didn't throw the whole fight, so I wasn't really expecting. And then in the fifth round, that was when I looked across the cage from him
Starting point is 00:19:40 and I said, you know, you're not going to defeat me. I'm prepared to die. And I meant not going to defeat me i'm prepared to die and i meant that shit so if i was prepared to die i was ready to kill and when i was going for him i meant that shit i even watched um if you go on my instagram story there's a guy i can't remember the name of the production now he made on youtube like legit a mini documentary 40 minutes you get like a spare 40 minutes or even just 10 minutes you'll get hooked Cause it just Just on that fight? No on the whole career Of my UFC career
Starting point is 00:20:07 Oh wow It went from chapter 1 to 7 And it was just beautifully done So watching that fight again And that was Yeah it gave me the chills man And just I was like
Starting point is 00:20:16 It was a movie It was a fucking movie Like the back and forth Tied up for the 5th round And I dusted it Absolutely Still fight of the year I think I think right now yeah
Starting point is 00:20:23 But I mean The year You know The UFC is crazy We've got another another card this weekend and i know shit can happen that card and then 245 is ridiculous as well as well but yeah um so i mean that that fifth round i dusted him i look better than i did in the first round i just i stepped it up better you know like who else can do that in a title fight you know a lot of people can't i mean no i can't think of anyone in recent years that's done that but hey i did it and that's why i feel like yeah that's fight of the year and i might be fighter of the year as well what were your thoughts on darren till's performance uh i liked it i liked it man i think he he played it smart
Starting point is 00:20:59 you know coming off two losses two finishing losses, being finished, that is, you step up to a new weight class, and then you call out a beast of the weight class, a guy that you saw what we did together. And, yeah, I'll give him props. I'll say he played it smart. He kept his distance very well. He used the homework I already kind of did. He would have figured it out eventually. He and his team are pretty smart.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But, yeah, they definitely looked at the fight with me and Calvin and did their homework. And he was able to just nullify Calvin's game. He was able to shut him down. He didn't really put the foot on the pedal like he normally does when he's really feeling himself. But he played it safe, which is good. He's a smart kid, smart guy. Yeah, I was impressed. Do you think you guys will fight
Starting point is 00:21:46 in the future 100 i think we're destined to fight because of uh just our styles and our story and especially your personalities feel like they would clash perfectly for that build-up i would say we're friends but we're friendly to each other it seems that way yeah like a mutual respect i mean hey just because i'm a fan doesn't mean you can't catch these hands yeah so moving on to your first title defense then against Robert Whitaker, you made this extravagant entrance where you had a full dance routine. You had everything like that. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:22:11 It was the best entrance I've ever seen in the UFC. Thank you. Thank you. Did we expect that to be like a regular thing for you? With being expected, unexpected, I always say. That was a special one because it was so close to home, and my boys, they're from that side of the world So for me, I wanted to do something spectacular
Starting point is 00:22:28 And I tried to do it at UFC 234 When Robert pulled out and couldn't fight And I was going to step up as the main event I tried to do it like a spectacular entrance as well At Rod Laver Arena And the UFC said, no, we don't want that And I was like, alright then, fuck you I was going to say, did you have to get that approved for people?
Starting point is 00:22:46 I think what I've heard through the grapevine is like, Dana's not a big fan of things like that. Yeah. But I don't care. I mean, how could you not after you watched the way it went? Exactly. So for me, it was my show this time. It wasn't Robert versus Kelvin proposed as the main event.
Starting point is 00:23:03 It was my show, and I was like, I'm going to do this my way or no way. And for me, I just have to stay true to myself, stay true to my roots. And that's, you know, dance culture. That's street culture. You know, so I just, and that's, for me, my quote that week was, if I'm having fun, I'm the best in the world. I said that the whole week. And my goal, people say, how are you going to do this fight?
Starting point is 00:23:22 How are you going to finish this fight? So I look, I'm going to have fun. And I made sure I had fun. So to set the tone, I had my boys do this extravagant little choreography, choreography, and just walk me out. We had some, you see like little, you know, like little details with the Naruto run with the special Chidori into like a spirit bomb.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And like just, you see theam neeson in the the intro like uh there's details to this there's levels to this so yeah i just had to do it my way or no way and it totally went viral it had to help you know the the building of your star the building of your personality it let people that maybe didn't see you before know who you are. Did that fight play out the way you thought it would? Yep. Yep. And allegedly, I told the right people to make the right bets. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:24:12 All right. Maybe you'll fill us in next time. Office full of degenerates over here. I'm a counterstriker. That's what I started doing when I first kickboxed. And people forgot because I became so good at creating mistakes on the other side with my opponents so they forgot like i can make them still create mistakes and then capitalize them yeah on the counter and yeah it wasn't really linear attacks it was lateral attacks and people
Starting point is 00:24:37 were quite surprised like how can you hit someone while you're in the matrix like leaning all the way back yeah excuse. Excuse me. And, yeah, it went exactly as I thought. I thought it was going to be maybe around the third or second round, and, yeah, kudos to him. So now you got the championship. You're looking to defend what the UFC is now calling the official championship, what you've been calling the official championship for a little longer. What's your philosophy when it comes to picking an opponent as a champion some people say i just
Starting point is 00:25:05 want the biggest money fight some people say they want the legacy fights what is it from you i like that i like that um okay example right now right after the fight i see this you know butched up ricky martin looking bitch and i call him out i let him know what's up gave him that great suck yeah uh man he felt that he felt that he felt it in his soul yeah um and yeah i set that next fight up already and that's a guy that he i felt was the number one contender because he beat your your romero who was the former number one contender so i set that fight up and then now suddenly he hurt his bicep and he can't fight for eight months so i'm like cool I'm not sitting around for eight months.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I'm ready to go. And I look around the division, and I see if I was Dana White, I'd say Calvin and Robert face each other because they're coming off losses, and they kind of owe the fans that fight. I'd say there's a guy like Jared Kananier. He's a guy that I think he's the dark horse of the division I would agree But he just doesn't He hasn't gotten over yet
Starting point is 00:26:12 He just needs one more fight One more big win It could have been that Anderson Silva fight I agree I agree Even though it was his last fight against the Joker He was very dominant, finished him But they were both kind of still on the come up you know um and i'm looking at him trust me and even i saw him at the fights in the weekend i said you know i appreciate you you're
Starting point is 00:26:33 a cool dude but i'm looking forward to fight you and he said likewise um then we have who else do we have and who else do we have in the division you You've got Yoel himself. Yeah, Yoel himself. Okay, so he's coming off like two or three losses in a row. But he's still gunning for you, obviously. Exactly. And I've called him out. What's your take on that? I called him out.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I was the one that called him out. And even his manager at the fights was trying to flex a little bit. He's like, hey, Israel. Israel. I was like, what? He's like, yeah, we signed the contract. We told him. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:27:03 Because I didn't know who he was at first. And he's like, Yoel, we've agreed to the fight. And I was like, okay, we signed the contract. We told him. And I was like, what? Because I didn't know who he was at first. And he's like, yo, we've agreed to the fight. And I was like, okay, cool story, bro. Do you think that's true? Do you think the contract has been sent their way? I don't know who. Because Dana seems to, it sounds like you guys have an opponent. See Tim shaking his head.
Starting point is 00:27:17 No, because he knows everything that goes on behind the scenes. He's the guy that fights outside the octagon for me. Yeah. So, yeah, I've agreed to the fight. I've called him out. But I don't think Dana wants to fight. And it's hard to sell a fight to the public when the guy's coming off three losses in a row. And he's known for doing things in the past, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:36 So, yeah, I mean, I don't mind. So, if you had your pick right now, who you're fighting next, a prediction for who you're fighting next, who do you think it is? We're working on that right now. I don't want to give anything away. Yeah, you don't have to spoil it. But I've called out UL because if Bo Hachino wasn't going to fight, I want him next because I just want to— You still want him in the future, though, correct? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I want to take care of everyone, everyone of this era that is supposed to be a badass. So that way when it's all said and done, they say he fucking gone for everyone. He never ducked nobody. And he beat everyone. So that's why he's the greatest of all time. And then eventually I'll jump up and I'll fight either light heavyweight or heavyweight. I haven't decided yet fully. But I know which one I want.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So, I mean, Jon Jones. We can't go without bringing him up. I am maybe Jon Jones' biggest hater. I hate the shit out of this guy and i really need you to come up big knock him out for me when you knock him out you'll think back to this interview you'll be like that nerd he hated john jones as well have you met john jones i've never met him but i was at 226 at his fight and i um i sized him up uh my son fight um what's his name oh Thor Hammerchest what's his name Tiago Santos Santos yeah sorry uh son fight him and I was I'm not impressed by his performance
Starting point is 00:28:52 what do you think a meeting would be like between you and John if you met face to face do you think it would be contentious do you think I think he would be like we're fighting one day or I think he'll be surprised at my stature at my presence because it's a lot when you're on Twitter talking shit and when you feel me in person. You look at me when I came in. Do you think I'm this big when you see me on TV? No. Exactly. You're very big.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, that's what she said. Yeah, so he's going to see the same thing, and he's going to be surprised at how my presence, not just physically, but my presence. When they feel me, it's different. You look at Brad Tavares. In the first round, they all come out guns blazing. In the second round, they all come out like this. That's them, the equivalent of a dog rolling on its back, offering me its belly.
Starting point is 00:29:37 They submit to the king. They realize after the first round, no shit. I'm in for it. Even Robert did the same thing. First round, come out, no touch gloves. I don't like to touch gloves anyway because, yeah, it's silly. After we touch gloves, when the referee says touch gloves. I don't like it either.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Some fighters do it at the beginning of every round. That's dumb. You know why? Even I hate when they hug or do high fives in the middle of a round, like after a good exchange. Save it for the end. Yeah, save it for the end. But sometimes if it's warranted, it's warranted. But when you touch gloves, that's the first contact.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And then if you do that with someone like me, I've established your range straight away. I've established your range. And I know you're using that as a tool. Exactly. So why are you going to walk? Okay, ready, ready, fight. Go out there. Boom.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You see Mayweather and Victor Ortiz, you know, that's some dumb shit. Well, he headbutted him first. Yeah. And then, you know, fight. Oh, let's hug it out. Let's hug it out. Boom. You see Mayweather and Victor Ortiz. You know, that's some dumb shit. Well, he headbutted him first. Yeah. And then, you know, fight. Oh, let's hug it out. Let's hug it out. Boom. Pop.
Starting point is 00:30:29 That was fucking legal. Yeah. That was perfect. He had every right to do that after the guy headbutted him, you know, illegally. So, yeah, I don't like to do all that kind of stuff. But, yeah, what was I saying about Jones? How did it start with Jones, for those that don't know? Okay, so everyone thinks I'm the one that called him out.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Look, there's a meme. No one. No one ever. And then suddenly, Jon Jones is on TMZ. You know, I'd like to fight a guy like Israel Adesanya. You know, maybe. And I was just like, okay, cool story, bro. Then TMZ, they're fucking like shit-starers, those guys.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Definitely. And they asked me a question and i said yeah i already killed one goat so i'd like to go for the next you know and yeah it's goat season man let's go hunt this season we're in the rut right now so um yeah i said that and then suddenly everyone's like oh dude you call out just i'm like bro he fucking got my name in his mouth he started talking shit about about me first. And I know he's a fan. He's been a fan. He's my biggest fan.
Starting point is 00:31:28 He's the guy that watches every fucking thing I do. I know that for a fact. But just because I'm the freshman, I'm the new kid on the block, I'm the guy that's getting all the shine. He's never been on SportsCenter with Scott Van Pelt. You know? He never. Maybe for something bad that he did. Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And that's the thing. He fucked up his own legacy. So now he sees a guy like me, young black kid, handsome, doing the big, what he wanted to do, what he wished he was. And he's jealous. I see it in even, I won't say the fighter's name, but I've had fighters admit to me like, you know, the way they talked about me. Face to face, like off the record, they've admitted like, oh, it's just jealousy. Like I was jealous. That's why I was saying this about you. And face, like off the record. They've admitted like, oh, it's just jealousy. Like I was jealous. That's why I was saying this about you. And then we'll hash it out.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But yeah, so he's the same way. He's just got jealousy in his heart and he needs to check himself. And if you decide to fight him one day, do you think you'll have to take some time off and get up to 205? Or are you ready for 205 right now? So when I fought at heavyweight kickboxing, I weighed in fully clothed With a box of Dunkin Donuts in my hand And I have a picture of it I don't have to put on size Everyone thinks
Starting point is 00:32:32 And people Even Daniel Cormier said about Jon Jon He said he's a lot stronger than he looks People say that about me all the time They think I'm just skinny, scrawny And I am People say the same thing about me Exactly
Starting point is 00:32:44 I know you look strong My man's strong man You can choke out anyone in this room They think I'm the skinny, scrawny, and I am. People say the same thing about me. Exactly. Well, I know you look strong. I can see that. My man's strong, man. Yeah. Choke out anyone in this room. Actual. Get my belt.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Put it on the line. Let's do it. But, yeah, so people will get it twisted and think, and this is a thing I said as well after my last one, the press conference. In the press conference, people, it's this thing from movies that's been passed down. It's still to the casuals and people, even experts in your brand, they still see like this muscled up guy. They think strength is this, like muscles and stature. But I've got leverage. I've got timing.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I've got speed. And I've got this weird strength. Like, I don't know how to describe it just leverage you've also shown in your fights that you have pretty unique ways of getting out of takedown situations and stuff like that where i think people don't give you enough credit in the grappling realm hey i mean people haven't seen my my top game khabib ain't the only one who's a mauler on top oh wow i would like to see that fight yeah habib jump up try to challenge you you I just hate Khabib, I would love you to move Nah, he wouldn't do that, I don't think so
Starting point is 00:33:47 It would be a bad move for him But yeah, I've got a nice top game I've learned some stuff from him as well When I watch the way he demolishes people And I've picked up some things We even have a move called the Khabib Everyone kind of knows what it is now But yeah
Starting point is 00:34:02 Jon Jones, what is he going to do, try to strike with me fuck no he's gonna try and take me down and man there's some things happening right now and the behind the scenes the way i've been working that's why even after this fight i felt FOMO because i feel like man i want to get back to the gym so i got to do this tour go on the west coast do a tour over there and then go back home i really want to get back to the gym because i want to get back in the lab and keep working and and i can't wait man honestly there's some things happening just even with misha i and then go back home. I really want to get back to the gym because I want to get back in the lab and keep working. And I can't wait, man. Honestly, there's some things happening.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Even with Misha, I trained with Misha Surkinov over a few weeks ago because he was over in Auckland. He showed me some things that I use, like my Peruvian necktie. It's so tight right now. Very tight, like a toyga. Very tight, my friend. I mean, that makes me very thrilled to hear, as a a fan of yours that you want to be back in the gym. Let's fucking go.
Starting point is 00:34:48 One more question for you. You've seemingly accomplished most of the goals that you set out for yourself at the beginning of your UFC career. Maybe I'm wrong on that. What are the goals that are left for you in the UFC? What do you want going forward? Okay, next year I want to defend my belt four more times. So that will be five title defenses next year i want to defend my belt four more times so that'll be five title defenses next year you want to fill this thing up with those rubies or whatever they give you infinity
Starting point is 00:35:10 stones all the infinity stones are better i'd be kind of sick if they did that special for you instead of just doing all the red ones if i'll do it myself i might even put a still spinner on one of these like the john cena yeah and call that I'll call that a freestyle belt. Love that. What else? Is that right now you're just focused on the title defenses? Yeah, I keep my cards close to my chest. But in time, things will unfold. I'll let people know as they happen.
Starting point is 00:35:39 All right, thank you, man. I appreciate it. We will all be watching your next fight. I'm sure everyone else will as well. Easy as.

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