My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 341 - GAMES WE PLAY

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

Emmyn from GAMES WE PLAY joins Robbie in the Basement to discuss opening up for Fall Out Boy on tour, his love of 'Hint of Lime' chips, embarrassing his little brother on stage, what it was like to have Pete Wentz crowdsurfing to his music during a Denny's pop up show, and more! Stream 'Life's Going Great' now: https://open.spotify.com/album/0yXsEspUqhclhWF27TqUbq?si=PlTnUp8rRUGinAT9DdSNDw Get tickets to see Games We Play on tour: https://linktr.ee/gamesweplay ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Alright, welcome back to My Mom's Basement, it's Robbie Fox, and I am here with Games We Play. I'm in from Games We Play, just hours before you're going on stage at Madison Square Garden to open up for Fall Out Boy. How are you feeling right now? I'm feeling very nervous because like you know we're doing all this stuff and i'm really excited i want you all this stuff i have a very long routine to get absolutely dot lasered in for the show every show you got a like a pre-show routine yeah it's not a very serious routine but i need to do it what does it consist of uh an ice bath um are you

fucking with me no you do an ice bath before every show yeah well i do an ice bath and we were cleaning up the ice bath last show it popped and flooded the bathroom that's that's bad but it wasn't even like it wasn't even like it was like it was really bad i thought i thought my photographer was gonna drown yeah um so i do an ice bath i make some really weird sounds with my mouth like vocal warmups. Yeah, but very weird ones. And then I listen to LMFAO for about 45 minutes. Are they your pre-show music every show?

It's just like 2010s, you know, LMFAO, Black Eyed Peas. A lot of sing-alongs. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I was telling you before we started the podcast That my last show was horrible Yeah, Baltimore Yeah, never going back there

I'm kidding But that coincidentally was the only show where we didn't You know, because the ice bath was popped No routine The routine was thrown off, so the show was thrown off Yeah, yeah It was wild But you've been on the tour for a little bit now How have the rest of the dates gone? And the routine was thrown off, so the show was thrown off. Yeah, yeah. It was wild.

But you've been on the tour for a little bit now. Yep. How have the rest of the dates gone? Okay, so I've been on the Fall Out Boy tour for four shows now. Yep. And arenas are really weird because, like, I'm used to either headlining, like, 300-cap rooms, 400-cap rooms, or opening for, you know, like, bands like All Time Low, like 2,000, 2 500 and i feel like in that in those rooms i know what to do but in arenas it's just like moms you know yeah that like listen to the radio and listen casually you know and i would say that they're not like

looking for new punk rock bands to like become super fans of, you know? So the arenas are really weird, but specifically like this leg, I just released a new album and I'm playing some of those songs. And I think we just like figured it out except in Baltimore. That, that was not a guy. But like, yeah, it's been really cool. And people like put their lights up and, you know, doors are an hour before we play. So by the end of the set, like the arena is packed. It's really cool and people like put their lights up and um you know doors are an hour before we play so by the end of the set like the arena's packed it's really cool i was gonna ask about that

because obviously like you could play to 10 000 people but if it's a 20 000 seat arena right it's gonna look 50 full is that weird for like even the beginning of your set is it a weird dynamic to try to get those people moving the actual funny thing is i can't see anybody oh it's at all an ocean no i mean it's just like when there's so much light on the stage yeah the crowd just looks like you're playing to a black wall okay um which is super weird but is that good for your nerves does that calm your nerves a little bit or no um i don't know generally the people in the front are like games we play fans yeah um that like know I'm playing first. So they get there and they're in the front.

So like if I could see people, I see that front row and they're usually like singing along, which is really cool. I don't know. I like feel really, really confident this tour. And I think that because I went in so confident, like everybody's been liking it. I love that. So I want to go back and get the games. We play origin. I love telling origin stories on this podcast. Yeah. How did everything start for you? Yeah. Um, my pops was in a band, uh, in like a little hardcore band.

Oh, in a hardcore band. Yeah. Real cool dad. Yeah. It actually played with fallout boy back in the day. Get out of here. Yeah. Um. That's really cool. What a full circle moment. Yeah. Which is so funny. So like, you know, he brought me to shows growing up, like punk rock shows. Like he put me on to bands like Blink and Newfound Glory and stuff like that. And, you know, I just started like I was like, oh, I want to play shows because I was singing a lot at church back in the day. So I was like, oh, I want to play like punk rock shows.

And this is Nashville. This is in Miami, florida you grew up in miami yeah my whole family's like cuban and puerto rican cool yeah um so i did that and and then i was like dad i gotta play a show we booked a show um i had two songs written i didn't know how to play the guitar okay and the show was in a month so i learned how to play guitar for that show um and from then like i was just you know playing shows around miami like going to high schools every every day honestly and like just giving like these little printouts that say games we play listen to me on spotify um and this is like what age are you like while you're in high school as well? Well, I dropped out When I was when I was 14, I just left school

I don't really know why I mean like a lot of it was for music, but I just I just didn't like school Weren't feeling it. Yeah, I wish I could have done the same. Yeah, my parents are really cool for that. Yeah Um, your dad in the band. Maybe he saw the vision, you know Yeah, and I was also this has nothing to do with games You play I was also like playing drums a lot Um um so i'm a drummer and i was getting like really good at drums really quickly and my dad was like maybe if i take him out of school and he just like focuses on drums yeah um so i got taken out of school and i stopped playing drums as you do yeah um but yeah so i did that for a while And then basically I put a couple songs out

And then I moved to Nashville Did the same thing in Nashville And that was around 17 So like three years in And I was like working at Target And basically I was the cart guy at Target And I would be like In the freaking parking lot

And any like pretty girl in the parking lot I would still do the same thing I would like give stickers to That was like my way of promoting my band and like flirting with girls. It's actually a good in. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Give her a sticker. Yeah, I did. That's awesome. Yeah. And, you know, I did it in Nashville for a while. It. Yeah. I just like had like some random people come to shows.

No, like like real like visual movement, but I did it for so long. Yeah. And then I moved to LA and I was like, maybe LA will help me. And this was 22 years old. And I remember trying the same thing, but now just with like Tik TOK,

like I was making, I was making Tik TOK videos, but then I was also still doing like the flyering thing. And this is like where it kind of came full circle so um there's this artist jayden hostler you know that is yep so he played a show at the roxy and i remember printing 500 games we play cds and uh this is like the day i moved to los angeles and i stayed out outside the uh the jayaden show and I just kept giving CDs out and then like two days later I made a post on TikTok about just my life story about how I've been doing music

for a while that my wife and I moved out to uh LA all this stuff and the post blew up like like 15 million views it was huge yeah and then I started getting comments it was like wait and from like other artists like pretty big artists. And they were like, didn't you give me something at the Jaden show? And I was like, oh, this is like working right now. Even more impressive that you gave CDs and that people were like, I still have a six CD changer in my car. I could toss that in or something. You would think nowadays it's just an airdrop.

Yeah. No, it was a CD. I don't think anybody listened to it because nobody really Has a way to listen To CDs in their car Yeah But yeah It was The second I moved to LA It kind of just all clicked

And I was I guess I just got enough practice Doing it With no result That like the second I moved to LA It like

It worked you know Yeah And from then I went on tour I Put out an album Two weeks ago And Now We're playing Magic Square Garden tonight.

Crazy. I love the backwards nature of like you having to learn guitar to play your first show. Oh, yeah. Because we have like a fake pop punk band here at Barstool and we had a very similar story. We put out one song. Just we thought it'd be funny if we do a parody song, make it sound like a pop punk song. Yeah. And our boss loved it so much.

He just booked us a headlining show at Irving plaza really like we've literally never played music together like really recorded one song as a joke yeah and he's like just play that song like 12 times that'll be the show we were like i don't think we can charge tickets yeah do that so we just learned a bunch of covers and that was the start of the band did you play the show we did yeah was it packed it's packed we almost sold it out, yeah. So you're in a meme pop punk band? I am in a meme pop punk band, yeah. I saw it in your bio.

Is that the meme pop punk band? It is, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're not in a serious pop punk band? Not at all. Our shows are 90% covers, and then we've got a couple originals that poke fun at the genre and fun ways. What do you cover? Everything. Blink, All Time Low, Green Day, you name it. Every classic, some 41, Simple Plan. fun at the genre and fun ways what do you cover everything blink okay all-time low green day you

name it every classic some 41 simple plan fall out boy yeah yeah and you learned how to play guitar for that so no here was the thing we all played instruments prior okay that's why we did the song in the first place but not like none of us super seriously i played bass in pop punk bands growing up yeah um and yeah the plan was just do one music video then do a behind the music on our dramatic breakup but people were like just keep doing music videos so it's been like seven years of that sick similar though when you said like we had to learn how to play guitar to play the show yeah it's like we literally had to learn how to be a band to play the show right yeah yeah that was like you know above like playing music and writing music like

what i like to do is I like to play shows. Oh, of course. And the most fun thing in the world. Yeah. And you saw, did you see me live in Columbus? I did. Um, I don't, I don't, I hope you got this vibe that I like really enjoy performing and put a lot into it.

Definitely. Um, so that was a, that was a really fun show. That whole all time low show was like, you kicked the day off on a great note and then it was May day and all time low and everything like that was a good vibe and one of the things i remembered the most about that was how much you were trying to maybe embarrass your brother while you're on stage yeah well it's not really embarrassed i'm trying to get my brother locked in okay i have i have uh i have a younger brother who i'm i'm 5 11 i have a younger brother who's 6 5 and i say on stage that he's way less way like worse looking than me but my brother's jacked he's got a different dad like my brother's

a good looking guy and he's a pretty like like green guy like new to everything and like doesn't care about material stuff and he's like never, never had a girlfriend. He's like, never kissed a girl. So like, I have a bit where I bring him on stage. I was going to say, I thought that was just a bit. That's true.

Uh, it was true at one point. It was true. When I started the bit, he ended up kissing my sister's best friend. Thank God. I mean, he goes on a rock tour.

I would hope he got a kiss. No, I mean like, like transparently wild amounts of DMs. Oh, I'm sure. Horrific DMs. Like, it's crazy. But yeah, so like, I bring my brother out and basically every tour I go on, I try to

up the antics of like what this Ethan bit is. So he learned how to play music for this tour and he's playing Madison Square Garden tonight without really knowing how to play bass. That's unbelievable. But does Madison Square Garden for you, like growing up in Jersey, going to shows there, it obviously has like that aura. It feels bigger. Does it feel bigger to you than the other arenas you've played? To be honest, I feel like tonight is like, I played Red Rocks um with All Time Low and that was awesome and

just like tonight kind of feels like different like tonight not in the All Time Low thing just like everything's kind of like leading up to this for me yeah um I don't know I know that like you know I acknowledge that like this is something that like most people like try to do like play Madison Square Garden. It's like the end goal for a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. And tonight, I'm like, okay, I'm going to do this. And how am I going to do this in the most Emin way possible?

I'm going to take eight minutes out of my 20-minute set to try to find my brother or girlfriend. And then I might, like, I'm debating. I'm still talking to my band. But I might play in an underwear tonight. Just do something stupid. But tonight i'm like really full chili peppers just a sock on the junk my my mine isn't big enough to hold a sock you might have to rubber band it yeah yeah still probably not big enough um i could probably just not wear anything to be fun yeah nobody would see no um yeah guitar in front of it, if anything. Yeah. But, yeah, today's going to be really weird.

And, like, I'm going straight to the venue after this, and I'm really nervous to see. Hopefully it works. New York's cool because New York's weird and cool because there's, like, a lot of cool people who go to shows. They're trying to be too cool. Too cool to move. Yeah. I say put your hands up, and they're like this, and it's like. Yeah.

You're not too cool to put your hands up at a pop punk show. Yeah. It's going to be cool to move. Yeah. I say put your hands up and they're like this. Yeah. You're not too cool to put your hands up at a pop punk show. Yeah. It's going to be cool though. And Fall Out Boy fans are dope. And I got a lot of fans from the All Time Low stuff. And I'm really excited to just do it. It's crazy. And I'm going to try to do it in the most Emin way possible.

How did you get on Pete Wentz and Patrick Slump's radar in the first place? I have no idea. Heard from them them one day they heard a game sweet play i got yeah i mean i went i posted that video and then um i was having meetings with people like labels and managers and stuff and i went to one and just pete was there i didn't know um i remember like texting texting my girl and i was like p1 says right here pretty intimidating yeah i'm i'm being serious like you're three feet from me i i was walking up to pete i was like yeah yeah it was very weird and that one was so funny because that was the day after i posted that video and some guy like freaked out like on the street he's like oh my god oh my god and like i thought he was like talking to pete and he's like you're emin from games we play in front of pete yeah it

was so cool it was so cool yeah um yeah people's like dude that's legit yeah he's like yeah yeah um you're like i'm famous that happens all the time yeah it was really cool and you know since that day i would say pete and i have been like like pretty close that's awesome he uh has his i don't know if this is the right phrase but he has his foot in a lot of the game that's not the right phrase at all uh he is very involved in pretty much everything i do that's awesome that's really cool to hear yeah and he was also at the denny's show which i was incredibly jealous jealous of. When I saw the videos from that, I wanted to play at Denny's since I saw the original viral video, of course. Yeah.

So I did play a show at Denny's. Basically, you've seen the video where the guy's like, what the fuck is up, Denny's? Am I allowed to say the F word? Of course. We've played Bojangles. Really? Bojangles parking lots in the same way where we just want to play at Denny's. Really? Bojangles is like, we'll pay you to play here. We're like, fuck yeah, Bojangles. Reallyjangles parking lots in the same way we just like we want to play a

Denny's really Bojangles was like we'll pay you to play here we were like fuck yeah Bojangles really I yeah I don't think I got paid to play Denny's at all um to be honest my record label was the one who hooked that up pay to play it Denny's I think that's what happened yeah um but it was cool and like you know we were worried that too many people were going to show up because this is right around the time of like that video so we didn't really announce it till the or it was announced but we didn't really tell the address till the day of um and like we packed out the denny's pete was there and like pete was crowd surfing and obviously because we announced that um or i announced that i was on pete's label and a lot of fall boy fans came and it was really weird to like see Pete Wentz crowd surfing at my debt my Danny's headline show yeah that was I think maybe the

first time that I became aware of you immediately those videos got sent in the pop punk group chat really and everyone's like this is fucking awesome we need to do something like this yeah I mean like I don't know if you've seen like I feel like a lot of pop punk bands, like you said, Bojangles. Yeah. I feel like since that original Denny's video has been a thing, like, a lot of bands have, like, replicated it with their own ways. Strange venues. Yeah. Waffle House. Yeah.

IHOP. But I'm really honored to, like, be the other person that played Denny's. You know, Blink-182 did, too. They did for, like, an Anthem Part 3 promo, right? Yeah. That was really cool. Mark actually hit the, what the fuck is up, Denny's. Yeah.

They have to. Yeah. I didn't do it as cool as him. He did it cooler. I was like, I wonder if they saw it. But yeah, I don't know. They could have. I'm pretty honored to be one of the three bands that played a Denny's along with Blink-182.

They should put like an Employee of the Month style plaque for like, this artist has played this Denny's along with Blink-182. They should put like an employee of the month style plaque for like, this artist has played this Denny's. Well, you know, I got the follow after Denny's and I was pretty happy. Oh, there you go. Denny's Diner follows me. They don't give us free stuff on the road. I hope they do. You should get like a black card. Like a Denny's black card. Yes. Show up to any Denny's, flash it, and it's like free eggs.

We go to Denny's all the time, but to be transparent, I haven't asked. I feel like if I asked, they'd be like, yeah. Probably.'s your like number one tour food when you're on the road oh it's really weird because i'm trying to like take care of myself so like sometimes it's a protein bar yeah it's a little lame yeah but sometimes i'm very rock and roll sometimes i'm like a bad boy and you have anything fun on the on the rider no no nothing No. Nothing? Nothing. Hopefully you'll see it tonight. I have nothing to give you.

I have coconut oil popcorn. Coconut oil popcorn? Yeah, I have coconut oil popcorn, seaweed crisps, and protein bars. Dude, what the hell? Yeah, and then I have kombucha, Celsius, and water. Yeah, you got nothing. It's messed up. And like, you know, what the hell? And then I have kombucha, Celsius, and water. Yeah, you got nothing.

It's messed up. Yeah. And like, you know, once we had like guests backstage, like, hey, do you have anything to drink? And I was like, no. No. And I could. That's why they give you the rider. There's usually like a budget for the rider.

Yeah. I'm probably like a tenth in. My rider's always just saltines and ginger ale because I get real nervous and I get a tummy ache. Really? Yeah. It's equally lame, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

It's funny because you'll see me on stage and you'll see me with my band on stage. And I feel like you'll be like, oh, these guys are like to have fun. But they don't. Yeah. Not like that. Like our version of fun is like blasting black eyed peas. I got a feeling, you know? Yeah.

Um, completely sober, you know? Yeah. Yeah. What was up with the Walmart picture the other day with just as many bags of Tostino's chips as I've ever seen? Oh, dude, I have a thing with my friends where like, I just like commit to the bit, you know? Okay. Like fully.

Yeah. Um, and I was like, it was my little brother's birthday. Um, mind you, I i'm gonna be transparent i in my personal bank account i have like 186 okay okay and um and you said let's buy as many tostinos chips as walmart has well i got the hint of lime and i don't know if you remember um maybe somebody maybe somebody who's watching this can like confirm hint of lime went away for a long time. I believe that's right.

Yeah, it did. I like the Hint of Lime. No, no. They're the best. They're the best. They're real good. They're also extremely calorically dense, and that's not why they're on our rider. So I got a Hint of Lime.

I was like, you know what? Just in case these go away, I'm going to get some more. And then we bought 20 bags. And then I bought, because I don't drink and my little brother doesn't drink. And we bought like N.A. whiskey or something. It just tastes like water with cinnamon in it. See, N.A. whiskey, that's like, I don't really understand N.A. beer because I don't like the taste of beer. N.A. whiskey, like that's the next level. Oh, it was bad.

What are you doing? It kind of hurt my chest. That doesn't surprise me well and you know like my some people on the crew who who do drink alcohol are like it tastes like pretty similar um so we got we got na coronas we got na whiskey and we got fucked up yeah i believe that wildly we opened we opened one bag of tostitos out of the 20 yeah i have i'm like stocked in the car. You should have brought a hint of lime today. You should just be giving those out to everyone. I probably

will do that on the headline tour. Just open a bag. Hints of lime, yeah. When we did Bojangles, they gave us biscuits to throw out. And I'll tell you what, Bojangles biscuits, they're nice and crumbly. Really? You throw a biscuit out, you hit a line drive with somebody, it'll explode when it hits them in the face. Really? Yeah, it's like a head shot. We were doing that all tour.

It sounds extremely safe. They're soft enough. Okay. You know, you can't take an eye out with a biscuit. Yeah. Or at least, I don't know.

We didn't. Is there videos of your Bojangles show? Oh yeah. Yeah. They were fun. They were really fun. Were like people singing along and stuff? Totally.

We packed the parking lot and we didn't know if anyone would show up because it's like BYOB, like Bojangles isn't buying drinks for everyone. Yeah. And nobody showed up until like five minutes beforehand. Really?

So we were like, to be transparent, we were texting our social people being like, do not tweet videos of this show. It's going to look really bad. Yeah. And then like five minutes later, we were like, make sure you tweet every video of this show you get. Yeah. Everyone just showed up on a bus.

Yeah. Hell yeah. I do this stuff all the time. Like, like where I get really nervous about something i'm about to do i remember um i played like a london headline show and it was five minutes before and i didn't like go outside to see the line i was like is anybody here is anybody here like should we play this show biggest worry yeah and my brother's like emin what it's sold out like what are you talking about um yeah i get really weird about

if people like my band or not or people are going to show up even if like the show sold out i'm like really worried about that about my headline tour no they'll show up for the headline tour super nervous like i think they'll show up i'll be there really definitely which one when you come to the east coast anywhere on the east coast all of them you're doing uh new york yeah i am grammar theater it's my biggest show boom we. We played Grammarcy Theater. It was so much fun. Really? One of my favorite venues we've ever played.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. I'm really nervous for the New York show. I think tonight will help introduce some people to the band for the Grammarcy Theater show. And then tomorrow, I'm playing an emo night. Yeah. I'm going to do my brother bit there.

I'm going to throw him in the crowd and say, do what you want with him um i'm really nervous for the grammar's theater show it will be the biggest games you play headline to date um it's a good vibe in there yeah you'll like it yeah hell yeah especially the way the venue is set up like there's seats in the back really so immediately the floor will pack cool and it'll look huge like sick yeah it'll be great dope um the album life's going great yeah awesome it's out now you could stream it on spotify did you listen to it i did okay what are your favorite songs to play from it live okay um like was it written were the songs written to be played live because they have the energy of yeah like a live performance i would say thank you i would say life's going great is like a very loud album yes um like yeah i mean my favorite song to play live is a song called naked um i

wrote i wrote naked about you know i don't know if you're like this or anybody who's watching is like this i'm a little insecure about this sometimes to the point where if i find myself in a situation where i'm gearing up to engage in sexual intercourse i may not want to yeah just because i'm like, what if you don't like this? So that's what Naked's about. I would say Naked is probably my favorite song to play live. That's the one

where I bring my little brother out. I just find it ironic. My brother's ripped and he's shirtless playing the bass and I'm playing a song about not liking the way you look. So Naked is really fun. The opening track on the album, the end. I love the opening track.

Yeah? Yeah. Hell yeah. I love an album opener. Like an album opener, a concert opener. Yeah. There's something about kicking things off that like I'm inclined to immediately like. Yeah.

I like those songs more, I feel like. Might be the Blink fan in me as well. Like Blink opens every album with an amazing song. I would say Blink-182 opened Enema of the state perfectly enema of the state dude feeling this is the perfect opener yeah like every every i mean anthem part two is the perfect opener yeah so it's like i never thought about that punk thing for me where i'm just like i want an album to kick off on a big energetic crazy note yeah and uh i kick off this album with like a really ridiculous song um just saying saying like stupid shit in this song um but there's that bass slide

in the beginning i was like maybe this would be cool and it's called the end maybe it's funny because it's track one um but yeah i would say my favorite song to play live is naked what were your like sonic influences when you're making the album? Were there albums that you said, I want this to sound like that? Yeah. So there's a thing in music right now, and it's really good. Some of my songs are like this, but everything sounds really big, and everything sounds really processed, and everything sounds really perfect. Yeah. Yeah.

And I really admire records that kind of like have flaws on them and for for people watching like you can record music just like straight into a computer now with no amp with nothing um and i was like i want this to sound real like i want you to hear the dirtiness of the amps i want to hear real drums like like a lot of the songs you're listening to and it's fine like my songs have this too i just didn't want to do it for this record don't have drums on them you know um so like my influence for this was like i want to sound like a rock band i love that like it's live and it's plugged in you know yeah that's probably why i got that feeling from the album like was this

written to be played live yeah because you get that everything's not quantized to shit no it's not you get the human feel of it yeah and like quantizing is like for those of you who don't know quantizing is like lining up every note on the grid on the time making it like computerized essentially taking the soul out of it yeah but which is good like you know some things need to be that way oh yeah but an album like this like hell it helps it so much not to have that yeah you know dragging it down and you listen to a lot of like my favorite music is like 2000s music. You listen to the Blink stuff.

You listen to like All-American Reject stuff. And it's like it has that live feel. The drums aren't so big that it's like – it sounds amazing, but it doesn't sound amazing if that makes sense. And that's like what I was going for. My brother is a drummer. I have a brother 12 years older than me that raised me on every kind of music i like really basically from him and because i grew up with a brother's drummer i feel like i have a good ear for that kind of stuff and as soon as i hear fake drums in a song yeah it's not like

it's ruined the song for me but it's just like a oh they're using fake drums for that one yeah like i like it so much more when i could tell oh that's a drummer playing drums right there that's a kit mic'd up perfectly yeah and i was really sad because like um a lot of this record got oh 90 of this record was finished um by myself in london with the producer right and i recorded every instrument and the we added like three more songs at the end the the more positive songs. And there was somebody else playing drums on those because I couldn't get out to London again. And I was so sad because I was like, I really wanted to play drums on this. Like playing drums on my music is one of my favorite things.

Yeah. Do you play all the instruments otherwise on this album? That's really cool. I would say I'm pretty bad at playing the piano. I don't think there's any piano on this. If there is, it's just like little notes that I hit. Do you have a favorite instrument to record? Is it drums yeah also like i hate it like basically like coming like like doing the thing with um no computerized stuff takes a lot of work because you need to redo it it can't be fixed yeah um so yeah i remember like posting on my instagram i fucking hate recording music

i ask people that all the time like do you like the studio process and i feel like most artists are just like of course it's the best yeah i'm like i've been in the studio yeah a lot of it's like boring you're waiting for things to happen yeah sometimes it's really fun if something's organically flowing and you know coming together like that A lot of the times it's not the best process. It's strenuous. Well, also the thing with, you know, recording every instrument, most bands function that like the drummer comes in, lays out the drums, then it's guitar part, right? I'm like soaking wet cause I'm playing the drums and I had to do it a hundred times. And he's like, all right, guitar. He was British. We got to do guitar. And then we did guitar for eight hours. It's like nine o'clock at night he's like ready to do vocals and it was it's like really strenuous but you know

now that it's out it was like so worth it and I'm sure it's so like almost satisfying to have the complete product that you play everything on it's like a McCartney thing yeah I mean no dude I hate recording music yeah mainly because like I mess up you know i hate recording music but that i have these songs i'm like that was awesome they're just like in stone now yeah album is always yeah gonna be able to found on spotify vinyl like yeah it's just in history now yeah um yeah i hope that's something i get to do like vinyl like i'm getting into recording records. I mean, what is the word? Collecting records. Oh, yeah.

So am I. Yeah. That is something that I'm really enjoying. Wildly expensive. So expensive. Yeah. To the point where I say I'm collecting records, I buy one a year. Okay.

It's like when all-time low drops a new fucking variant. I'm like, all right, I guess I need that one for completionist purposes. Yeah. Are you a big all-time low fan? Huge all-time low fan. Really? I got the tat all-time low fan? Huge all-time low fan. Yeah. Really? What, what is it? The all-time low skull.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Like they're still my all-time favorite. No pun intended. Yeah.

All-time favorite. Yeah. I like growing up, wasn't the biggest all-time low fan and I went on tour with them. Oh, motherfucker. I went on tour with them and they are my Like They are one of my favorite bands ever Like they're unbelievable Yeah And I just like

I have to say thank you to them Probably You know like Up there with Fall Out Boy Like no band has helped me out More than All Time Low They play such big shows And they bring me out

All the time And like They're such nice guys And I Honestly like Wouldn't like be doing This tour And like Tickets wouldn't be selling if all time low didn't help me out. That's awesome.

Shout out all time low. They're best people. Yeah. That's be the whole the whole team. Yeah. The whole all time low team. Yeah. All right.

My final question for you, which I ask to every artist and musician that comes on the show. I'm a huge Oasis fan. Yeah. And Noel Gallagher once said he summed up everything he ever wanted to say with three songs. Rock and roll star. OK. Forever and cigarettes and alcohol. He says after that, I ever wanted to say with three songs. Rock and Roll Star. Okay. Live Forever and Cigarettes and Alcohol. He says after that, I'm just repeating myself with different words.

Those are all beautiful songs. Beautiful songs. So if you had to pick three songs that you've written that sum up everything you've ever wanted to say, which would you select? Okay. So I'll say this isn't one of my favorite I've made. But like thematically with who I am, get a job is like a really big thing great one um then i would say the most emin song i've ever made is naked i have very your personality i'm being wildly transparent i've gotten naked so many times and not you know

gearing up for sexual intercourse nice and i got a little cure And I put my clothes back on You know Not my vibe And then the other one Probably the first song on the album The end Oh no no I take it back Girl Shaped Crater There you go Because there is

We'll give you a mulligan on that one There is There is like There is like That thing about me You know Oasis is like that Where their music sounds real as

shit yeah and like there's acoustics everywhere and if you listen really closely there's mess-ups on the record um and i would say that girl-shaped crater um along with a lot of songs in the record has acoustic and it's like you know a more raw song yep um and that's a big part of me like listening to real music and like so, so it's girl shaped, naked because I have a small penis and get a job. You know, they're great three. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much. Good luck tonight. MSG. It's going to be a great show. It's going to go great. Thank you. People are going to love you. You're coming, right? I'll be there. OK. And the people are going to love you when you come back to Gramercy. I don't think you

should be worried about that show. You should play guitar with me on Gramercy. Dude, I would love it. I play bass, but I would love to. Okay, let's do it. You tell me, I'll be there. Okay, yeah, let's do it. All right, sick. All right, hell yeah. Thanks.

All right, there we go.