My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 344 - WRESTLEMANIA XL RECAP (FROM THE TOP ROPE WITH JARED CARRABIS)

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

From The Top Rope hosts Robbie Fox and Jared Carrabis discuss the thrill and the agony of WrestleMania, the first entry to the “HHH Era”, where Cody/Roman/Rock will go from here, and as always - J...ared’s Kane fandom. #WrestleMania #WWE ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports in a very special WrestleMania 40 recap edition of My Mom's Basement. It is Robbie Fox, along with my From the Top Rope co-host, Jared Karabas, to recap an all-time WrestleMania. One for the ages. The grandest age of them all. Ushered us into the Triple H era. Ushered us into the Cody Rhodes era. How we doing, Jared?
Starting point is 00:00:38 I hate my life. I don't know. All the joy has been taken out of me for everything that I used to love. I used to love professional wrestling. I don't anymore. I used to love i used to love professional wrestling i don't anymore i used to love the red socks i don't anymore i used to love baseball i don't anymore i still love my life i don't anymore um i used to love you i don't anymore um yeah sorry you spilled my drink behind me because i couldn't believe what you just said i literally just spilled all over the place i couldn't believe it used to love me listen don't hate the player i saw i saw you jumping up and down dancing on my grave at wrestlemania um i jumping up and down i mean i
Starting point is 00:01:17 i'll be honest i did send you a mean text honestly i don't remember it like i i like that my whole week has been a blur bob i i just sent jared this emoji yeah you did you did and oh that was yeah yeah i was riding high i was riding high i won't lie yeah i i let me just start here because this is uh this is a take that i've had for a long time that i've just been waiting. Like I've always, like every time that we do a podcast, I'm like, why didn't I say that thing that I meant to say? And here, here's what it is. So I get these people that every time we do a podcast together, that will be like, really?
Starting point is 00:01:58 You're, you're a Roman guy. Like, how are you not rooting for Cody in his story? How are you not rooting for Cody? So let me just tell you a little something about jared carabas all right first pay-per-view i ever saw was bad blood in your house 97 and kane makes his debut in the first ever hell in a cell match and i'm just like that's my guy and through thick and thin through no mask no hair through uh singlet no shirt two sleeves one sleeve i'm a cane fan forever and then cm punk becomes my guy i'm like
Starting point is 00:02:37 i love cm punk heel cm punk baby face cm punk tag team cm team, CM Punk, bald head, long hair, whatever. CM Punk. He's my guy. UFC, CM Punk, AW, CM Punk, WWE return, CM Punk. Roman, when he debuted with the shield, I was like, I fucking love this guy. And I feel like, and I don't understand this at all, but there are wrestling fans that don't look at their favorite wrestlers. Like, like a sports fandom of like a team.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Like I'm a red Sox fan. You root for the red Sox when they suck. You root for the red Sox when they're winning world series, they're in last place, but you're still red Sox fan. You're not just like, Oh, they're in last.
Starting point is 00:03:21 All right. Well now I like the Dodgers. So when Roman like comes up with the shield, it right well now i like the dodgers so when roman like comes up with the shield it's like i like the shield roman i like suffering succotash roman like like those were like that roman but those were my those were my last play seasons it was like we're we're getting drenched in dog food we're saying suffering succotash we we don't have veneers yet. Uh, you know, we're the big dog, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:46 all this corny contacts, weird contacts. Yeah. Blue contacts. For some reason, it's like I had to suffer through those last place seasons to watch my team when back to back to back world series titles. And so like,
Starting point is 00:04:01 whether he's a good guy, a bad guy, a shitty gimmick, a great gimmick,ul hayman no paul hayman i'm a roman reigns fan so when people are like man really dude you're rooting for roman over cody yeah that's my guy like i am you know what you know what jared my counterpoint to this you saying people aren't treating their favorite wrestlers like sports teams. I would say quite the opposite.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I would say those are the Cody crybabies, Bobos, whatever you want to call them that are so ride or die for Cody in the exact same way. Your ride or die for Roman that they can't fathom you not rooting for the guy who bet on himself, left the WWE in 2016 when they didn't believe in him as a main eventer, started their biggest competition.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You know what, Bob? And then left their biggest competition and bet on himself again. Do you know who the Cody Crybabies really are? Who? And you're not one of them because you actually followed, literally, you went to Lowell, Massachusetts
Starting point is 00:05:04 and followed Cody Rhodes when he was on the independent circuit. Didn't he win the NWA title that night? He won the ROH world title that night. And then you literally went with him to the emergency room where he got stitches like you followed him while he was on the independence the cody cry babies are the younger john cena fans that oh now you hate the kids jared you hate the kids hear me out the cody cry babies are the the 10 year old john cena fans that grew up to be teenagers in like early 20s but now scene is gone so it's like oh who's the corny baby face that we can attach ourselves to now it's not oh it's cody rhodes we love cody now like the cody cry babies did not
Starting point is 00:05:52 follow cody when he was stardust and then left and went to the independence and was an aw and and ring of honor they were not a lot did no i think a lot of them did i think a lot of people they did a lot of people definitely first saw Cody when he came back and faced Seth Rollins at Wrestlemania 38 my nephew's one of them like he's a WWE kid you know my nephew's nine years old so when he sees wrestling fans related to Bob Fox like it's by proxy you're gonna be a stick oh like you're staying up until 4 a.m to watch watch New Japan Pro Wrestling. I guarantee you, Bob, that 85% of the fans that go to these WWE events and they chant for Cody Rhodes didn't watch a single second
Starting point is 00:06:36 of his independent circuit live. None of it. Maybe they watched some of the AEW stuff. They didn't. They didn't. They simply did not. These are displaced John Cena children fans. That's I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:49 But Cody went everywhere. Cody went to the big Indies. He went to the small Indies. He went to the mom and pop Indies. Exactly. He got those people. So those people no doubt followed him up to this journey. They're like Cody Rhodes.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But now millions. Fucking small town. And now millions are in his corner. Those people did not follow him when he was on the Indies. Like collectively, how long, when he left as Stardust, what year was that? 2016. Okay, and then he came back in 22?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah. Okay, so he was gone for, call it, five years. In five years, he probably wrestled in front of... I'll give him... It's a high number. AEW had a lot of sold-out shows at the beginning. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I was going to say a million. In five years. I don't even know how to gauge that. I don't know if that's a high number or not. Yeah, I don't know either, but put it this way. There are millions of Cody crybabies. Yeah. Like these people were just they weren't with Cody shooting in the gym.
Starting point is 00:07:51 We prefer the Rhodes Warriors. But yeah, we can talk about that at a later date. You know, listen, Bob, I'm happy for you because I know that you are a true Cody Rhodes fan. You know him personally. You followed him when he left the Stardust. Before he left, actually, that was the first time me and Cody ever talked. He had a Burner Twitter account
Starting point is 00:08:14 because he ran Stardust in Kayfabe. And it was kind of like, it wasn't like he wasn't keeping the Burner secret at all. People knew it was Cody Rhodes. He was fine with that. But he never put on it like, this is Cody Rhodes. Anyway, he put on there when he was stardust like hey i need a new gear designer and i responded to the tweet was like i could do this and then reached out to pat buck
Starting point is 00:08:33 and kevin owens was like can you put in a good word like this would be cool they put in a good word the rest is history i designed like he was trying to get out of being stardust at that time so i designed cody rhodes gear he presented that to whoever he said he was trying to get out of being stardust at that time so i designed cody rhodes gear he presented that to whoever he said he was putting like a pitch book together and when they turned down the idea and said we you know we just want you to be stardust that like a month later he left so that was when it all started i got a bunch of tweets like how do you like know cody rhodes that was the inception of the relationship and then we you know he took me to a ton of independent shows gave me a ton of like knowledge took me under his wing for a while um so it was
Starting point is 00:09:09 you know the most surreal wrestlemania i mean the last couple years two years ago i watched kevin owens fate face stone cold in the main event of wrestlemania it's like this is the craziest most surreal thing and then two years later i got cody rhodes with the infant infantry from heaven i mean it's the undertaker it's john cena it's jay uso it's everyone coming out to help him it's seth rollins in the fucking shield gear that had to pull your heartstrings i mean it was insane surreal didn't i say that to you the next morning though i said uh i said uh i i took a night to sleep on it and you're like and i was like i still hate it but what i arrived at was that moment where seth comes out to the shield music in the shield gear and roman is holding
Starting point is 00:10:03 the chair and he looks at cody and he can finish him off and retain the chair and he looks at Cody and he can finish him off and retain the title and he looks at Seth who has nothing to do with this match and it's already beat up and he just fucking sticks him right in the back because he never forgot and and this is maybe you'll call me a Roman Bobo for this take Bob but roman was in is he he was the one that was always betrayed seth turned his back on roman and originally yeah jay and jimmy and and like the everyone thought the rock was going to be the next one to do it sammy you know like well sammy didn't betray roman yes he did he fucking stuck him in the back with a chair oh yeah you're right you're right you're right
Starting point is 00:10:49 you're dead ass right about that yeah so like you know in my wrestling mind in my fan roman pushed him to that point let's be fair roman did push him he didn't have to he didn't have to stick him in the back very nice to sammy dude no he wasn't but he he it's called tough love and it is he did what he had to do to make everyone around him great and he you obviously watch the documentary and it's like yeah okay jimmy and jay like people love the usos but like the usos are on another level right now they main evented wrestle wrestlemania last year they main event didn't main event but they had a match together that everyone cared about which we'll talk about it was a huge flop but yeah um yeah like that he he elevates everyone around him what does he get for it chair shots in the back
Starting point is 00:11:41 now is there any part of you that can take the roman bobo out of it and appreciate the main event that we had because like i mentioned i put out the reaction video of me nate and brandon walker in the suite shout out 2k games for bringing us out giving us tickets and all that it was it was like a wrestling fan dream. The amount of moments, entrance themes, insane false finishes. It was similar to WrestleMania 30 in that you feel like you know who's going to win going in. But there is part of you that's like, but maybe there's a swerve. And there's also part of you that completely buys into that match and believes the false finishes. There were a couple that got me even.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And I'm like, I'm 99.9 positive cody's walking out of this building champ but they were still getting me and i know a lot of people thought stone cold was coming out especially after triple h tweeted like at 316 on the day of wrestlemania that is insane that he did that the fact that it was the undertaker and not stone cold was so much more unexpected. I think, I mean, the crowd is already starting to go Austin, Austin,
Starting point is 00:12:48 that dong hit and the pop that the undertaker got in an open air arena, dude, next level. And I said, I wish the undertakers final five, six years of his career. We're in moments like this instead of afternoon, Saudi Arabia matches where it's just like like he's the fucking dead equalizer he's gonna show up at any moment and face any heel and just
Starting point is 00:13:10 make sure things are the way they should be by the book like that is just the the most badass character i could believe i mean he could do that for a couple more years he could deliver one choke slam at night i'm sure my brother texted me i sent it to you. He was like, Michelle McCool here. And later tonight, like, I think I got one more run in me. I felt good out there. You heard him out there, babe. Do you hear that pop? I think I got one more run.
Starting point is 00:13:37 They need their undertaker. I saw him earlier in the night, too, because we were in the suite. Yeah, George Kittle was in the suite next to us. So we went to go say hi to him. And the Undertaker walked right past me and Cody, our social guy. Cody was like, is that? And I was like, oh, yeah, that's that's the fucking Undertaker. I said, he won't appear tonight.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Look at him. He's in a beanie and a hoodie. Little did I know Undertaker wears a beanie and a hoodie now. Did it did it take away from it for you that he wasn't in his gear and he was in the beanie and hoodie when he came out to stare down the rock it didn't take away from it in the moment in the moment i'm too insane about it and i'm like i can't believe it but again something my brother texts me he's like the dude can put on the gimmick to give away a soccer trophy in saudi arabia but he can't put it on for wrestlemania right yeah at least like you know kind of like
Starting point is 00:14:24 that leather vest he wore for his match against aj he could do an american badass type thing even if he's in a big angle shirt yeah kind of kind of weird that he didn't do that in the video of him running away did you see that one yeah yeah yeah people are tweeting like when i gotta take a shit in home depot yeah i mean maybe maybe they really thought that Austin was going to happen until it didn't. Like, I don't want to say it. You're saying like to the last minute, though?
Starting point is 00:14:51 I mean, I don't know. Like, he obviously didn't have his gear with him. Maybe he was planning on being at WrestleMania regardless. And then, I don't know. Triple H calls up to the suite and Michelle McCool's like, oh, no, no, Mark. Well, because we never got an explanation right there's no reporter like because though there's not and that i'm super curious about because we know they had to reach out to austin it feels like that was austin's spot
Starting point is 00:15:17 and the undertaker got it and the undertaker to their credit i think is the only other guy whose music could have hit that wouldn't have have been like a disappointment that Austin wasn't there. Yeah. You know what I mean? And Oh, by the way, was there part of you in the shield music hit? That was like,
Starting point is 00:15:31 I said, Ambrose. Yeah. I was like, we were like, what's happening right now? Like the, the main event got us so wrapped up in this rollercoaster of emotions.
Starting point is 00:15:44 We thought that Tony Khan would have just been like, you know what, go let him finish the story, man. In the moment where they're about to fucking air the CM Punk footage tomorrow night as we record this. That's crazy, by the way. That might require an emergency pod. We'll see what that comes out with. But I kind of agree with the people, not to go on a tangent about that,
Starting point is 00:16:03 that are saying it's a weird move by aw because either it makes punk look bad and people want to see jungle boy kick his ass which you can never deliver as a match or it makes punk look good and then it makes aw look bad right it's a kind of a lose-lose for them airing it i think i think the the logic that i saw i can't remember who said it but it was kind of just like you know they want to have people tune in to see it and then hopefully they stay and see that aw has other cool stuff and it's like you kind of create new fans by using that like clickbait almost maybe that's a decent point um anything else on the actual night two main event john cena look great out there the john cena rock face off was awesome yeah that was cool that's cool all right got you there yeah that was pretty cool yeah yeah i was
Starting point is 00:16:52 there i was there for what was that 29 yeah 29 yeah 11 years ago that was the last time they were in the ring together in the ring to get the most underappreciated part of the whole main event the uso spear off the ramp dude reckless sitting it looked like it was 20 feet down it was in they they fell and fell and fell and they just kept going and and they didn't like it happened so fast that there was no way for them to know that they were landing on the tables behind them i thought the same thing i re-watched it and jay and like jay never even takes a second to pause so he must have just had the trust that jimmy was gonna be on his mark and yeah it didn't look like one of those shitty like crash pad landings either it looked
Starting point is 00:17:35 like they just went through tables there might have been a crash pad underneath but the way they shot it was perfect that was great i i yeeted for that you know when when jay hits the spear i i tried to hit a yeet and you see it in the reaction video, the yeet just, I keep adding ease. Cause I can't believe how long they're falling in midair. Yeah, it was,
Starting point is 00:17:51 uh, it was crazy. I mean, once, once the floodgates opened, it was very exciting. And maybe it's just, um,
Starting point is 00:18:00 the young wrestling fan and me that just always believed that Roman would still come out on top regardless. Cause you just always believed that Roman would still come out on top regardless. Cause you just always think you had guys going to win. Like you had me half convinced, like going into WrestleMania week, I said, Cody Rhodes,
Starting point is 00:18:12 a hundred percent. Then you started texting me and being like, I don't know, dude, especially after night one, you were like, a lot of finishes went the way people thought they were going to go. There's gotta be a big swerve at some point.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And you kind of planted that seed of doubt in my mind. I'm glad they didn't go that way though. We didn't need another year to Roman. Yeah, we did. But I, you know, I think the other thing too,
Starting point is 00:18:32 was that he, he, so if, if Vince were still around, I know we're not supposed to say his name. If Vince were still around, I feel like, I feel like Roman probably goes over.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah. I think that there's a chance. He wants to beat that Hogan record. That. And also he, like him trademarking renaissance era yeah like i feel like vince would have been like you know what i hated that yeah not now now put wwe though i noticed when i start us brother when he trademarked renaissance era the wwe started pushing the triple h era hard immediately being like no no no no it's the triple h era we're we're calling the name on it we're
Starting point is 00:19:09 calling dibs so yeah it'll be interesting to see if cody uses that what he makes of it i loved him giving the title to mama roads it was the moment we all wanted to see made me emotional and i you know what else made me emotional as hell watching the video especially afterwards of samantha irvine irvin irvin uh irvin commentating or not coming announcing the win couldn't get through it could not get through her voice cracks on the new i've been watching videos of kids crying i feel so bad for my nephew i've talked about it with you he's as big a roman mark as you are so he was my brother said he was you know when the pops happened he's a huge undertaker mark too so pops up and he gets excited and then he realized like oh no i i know why he's here that's not good for my guy so yeah he was heartbroken but he was the only kid i saw heartbroken
Starting point is 00:19:56 by it most kids were crying for other reasons they were like crying and tears of joy one kid i posted the video goes everybody helped oh my god i just couldn't believe it it's so cute it was making me emotional but yeah congrats to cody unbelievable that guy bet on himself and he called his shot every step of the way you have to admit this even as a cody bobo that he looks uncomfortable with the title like he oh he looked great with on raw no no no no no oh yeah on raw on raw cody had the title over his shoulder he looked like a child that was holding like the real belt like the belt is too big for him no yeah he no no he looked he looked fake no that's a correct take he looked bad take all out of place with like he didn't he didn't unstrap it i hate that when when you have like
Starting point is 00:20:54 you know it looks like a giant apple watch on your shoulder yeah like that alex so stupid yeah this looks good no by the way those that don't know this is a custom one of one 2k showdown showcase championship that's cool wrestlemania weekend i won the celeb pro-am 2k tournament um and beat kofi kingston in the finals to earn this so i brought the title home for the basement charity yeah that's pretty cool i was i was very excited for you i was uh kofi lifted me up like macho man miss elizabeth i saw that we had a tag team it was great new day fox new day fox and then they split us up in the end and i just had to turn heel on kofi like i just saw it in the moment sometimes you got to call something on the fly call an audible i got a fast count three in the main event because i saw that
Starting point is 00:21:45 well kofi had screwed over greg and up up down down before with a fast count so he returned the favor as the special guest referee greg from this is awesome if you watch on peacock great show and yeah i saw my opportunity i took it they asked kofi what happened you guys were such a great team it was tyler breeze and xavier woods hosting it i stepped in i said i'll tell you what happened every tag team has a marty genetti and everyone's like oh you know it's a good moment but kofi was great about it everyone we hung out with backstage was so cool because we were supposed to go at like 4 p.m the thing was supposed to start or we know we were supposed to start at 4 30 the rock was supposed to show up and do like a q a with michael cole at four yeah rock was two hours late so i was only one he was two two hours late dude we went at 6 30 he was crazy the crowd was getting restless the crowd and he was he was funny he was like i'll
Starting point is 00:22:34 tell you why the rock was late i was on youtube watching jalen hurts losing the super bowl again you know so i saw him say that and then in my head i'm like most of these people probably aren't even from philadelphia it's wrestlemania like people are coming from all over the world and i feel like yeah a lot of wwe fans are probably just wwe fans like we don't care about football you know people got offended that i said night one the philly crowd was a little underwhelming people like don't call it the philly crowd it's the worldwide crowd it was like all right yeah it's kind of fair uh but we hung out with xavier tyler breeze bailey zelina vega johnny gargano jay uso um kofi and xavier did i mention them they were
Starting point is 00:23:14 they showed me their uh their wrestlemania gear before anyone saw it there because i we started talking about gear i designed gear i'm a nerd about it and they were like all right if you're a nerd about it check this out tell you tell all right, if you're a nerd about it, check this out. Tell us what you think. They also showed me a future set of gear that they haven't debuted yet. What do they say? Who's the man? They said it's going to be for like one of the upcoming Ross.
Starting point is 00:23:35 They were like, it's just for an upcoming raw. It's not like it's themed. It's not city themed or anything. It is themed. A theme that I love, but I can't talk about that. You know, that's us. us boys keep secrets like that. Yeah. Us in the biz, you know, us in the biz, we keep secrets like that.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Right. Right. Yeah. It's just a little basement fodder. Uh, actually I did a little, uh, speaking engagement last night and at the end of it, this guy comes up to me and we're talking for like, you know, five, 10 minutes or whatever. And then at the end, before he walks away, he goes, the way uh you know who my uh roommate in college was and i was like no i actually don't and he was like kofi kingston and he just walks away oh that's cool
Starting point is 00:24:15 yeah bc guy very cool yeah i thought you were gonna say like at the end of your speaking engagement you were like now acknowledge me i mean i did do that yeah i actually started if we if we if we pulled video from it i i know i mentioned roman reigns in it okay i think you're gonna say i know i told those college kids to acknowledge me yeah no i i i 1000 mentioned roman reigns in my my speaking engagement yes so we'll kind of go all over the map here but to turn things around and hopefully make them a little more positive for you let's talk about the night one main event now the tag team match that set up night two made it bloodline rules roman reigns in the rock defeat cody rhodes and seth rollins i thought pretty good main event i thought the rock looked a lot
Starting point is 00:25:01 better than i thought he was going to look to be honest i thought he was going to look slow because the wrestlemania 29 match we discussed wasn't the greatest match and he tore every fucking muscle off his body in it this i thought he looked pretty good i mean obviously he's protected by being a tag team match he doesn't have to do as much work but he looked fast he worked the crowd great the way he worked mama roads and he was getting in her face the finish was pretty good his entrance was incredible the championship i went back and forth on when i first saw it i didn't realize it was you know given to him from muhammad ali's widow and all that i didn't see that part of the hall of fame i tuned in like at the paul heyman part um so i was kind of like that's weird
Starting point is 00:25:40 he just wants a title for the aesthetic of it you know the history history of it. It's kind of passed down from Muhammad Ali. It's kind of fucking cool. And then the visual at the end of the night of him and Roman both raising their titles. I was like, all right. It was kind of worth it for that visual. So I thought it was a great main event. But the friends that I had over, we're all roman guys so after the finish we all kind of just looked around the room and we're like it's over you know like we like to to have uh
Starting point is 00:26:16 cody take the pin on night one uh we all just looked around it was like you know we're like the last gentleman on the titanic we were just like we all we all just looked around. It was like, you know, we're, we're like the last gentleman on the Titanic. We were just like, we all, we all just like took it a pleasure, whatever. Yeah. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:29 Hey, it's been a hell of a ride, brother. Yup. Yup. It's just, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 It was, uh, it was a moment where as, uh, wrestling fans and Roman marks, uh, we all collectively knew that it was, it was probably over.
Starting point is 00:26:46 There was even part of me, though, night one, that they got me to buy into one of the false finishes where I thought Cody and Seth were going to win, and that made me excited, even though I wanted all the interference on night two. They played so many mind games with us this weekend, to quote another paper for your mind games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I mean, I think there was no harm in having i guess i guess if you have seth take the pin then it makes i'd be but like he can't look any worse you know that was taking too much offense this weekend this man was laying down and looking at the lights for everybody i think it was like yeah like what's another pin what's another pin to create some reasonable doubt like the second that cody takes that pin on night one i'm like it's it's over but if seth takes the pin uh i mean i feel like a lot of people thought that he was gonna lose his title on night two anyway uh and then for him like you made the point because i forgot that he had made the reference to the shield he said like i can be your shield and that was obviously a reference to what he was going to do on night two um yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:27:51 like he he came out i don't want to say he came out looking like a loser he didn't but i mean he didn't come out looking great i mean it definitely gave me more respect i mean i already love and respect seth rollins like an immense amount but i i already love and respect seth rollins like an immense amount but i have even more respect for seth rollins because he he put over everybody you know yeah and in the main event i think they could have shot it better because there's a fan angle i don't know if you saw it on reddit but there's a fan angle of him getting in the ring and he's fucking selling from the match before he's selling. Like it's a struggle for him to even get to the ring. So they didn't show that on camera.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And it kind of just looks like, like the first you see of him is him getting punched in the face by Roman Reigns. It's kind of like goofy. It's like, oh, like what? He just showed up to get hit. And then he gets hit by the chair. It doesn't get a single lick of offense in, but knowing the backstory of him saying, I will be your shield. I'm the only guy, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:46 equipped. He's the only guy that knows when Roman is in the heat of the moment, he will throw away anything to get back at him for what he did. He's never gotten over that heartbreak. Like that's, that's masterful storytelling. They just could have had a better angle of set to show like the struggle, what he's doing,
Starting point is 00:29:03 the sacrifice he's making people compared i saw um connor griffin on mostly sports said it was very star wars i agreed with him there's a star wars movie jared where luke skywalker shows up at the end to stall kylo ren and then kylo ren is so fucking mad at luke that he's going after luke he's not even paying attention to the fact that luke has a lightsaber that's destroyed his hair. He looks younger. It's because Luke is a hologram. He's just there to make the sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:29:31 He's just there. And Cody's such a Star Wars fan that like, dude, I wouldn't put it past him to like, be like, let's do the Star Wars thing here. Because months ago I did say to Cody, I said, I feel like your return was the first Star Wars, A New Hope, big happy ending. You beat Seth, but the big bad isn't beaten yet. The second one, WrestleMania 39, Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars, where the good guys lose in the end. And it's like, oh, fuck. How are we ever going to defeat the evil empire? Return of the Jedi is the ultimate.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Emperor's defeated. The galaxy is celebrating. The good guys win i compared that to return of the jedi people are now coming out and saying i said that in august with cody and he was like oh yeah i love that people are comparing it to star wars now they're saying i think cody's story was star wars and cody liked that tweet right away did i plant a little seed in there? I hope so. Yeah. I mean, I'm happy for Cody. Obviously I, I wish that it didn't happen,
Starting point is 00:30:29 but I am as a wrestling fan, I can appreciate someone that like I, they made it a lot about dusty, but his dad, like never want it. Cody's always chased it. I like for me, like I, I respect it far more as always chased it like for me like i i respect it far more as someone that's like hey man like i've been in the company for x amount of years
Starting point is 00:30:51 like you're giving me these shit gimmicks like i've won the intercontinental title like that's supposed to be like the next step would be the the world heavyweight title picture and and he never like he never uh ascended from the ic title tier in wwe and then he went down um and for him to be like you know what fuck you i'm gonna go out and prove myself somewhere else i have far more respect for cody for all of that and there wasn't somewhere else that's like the most impressive part there was he made somewhere else he made some you could go to the indies you go to roh and you could you could combine all of those to make you know the the cody rhodes brand big but he fucking made something he did all in sold 10 000 seats when they said
Starting point is 00:31:35 that was impossible for an indie right like he was like definitely not that's why i respect him like i i care less about the you know my dad never won it and now i'm winning it it was more so like you were looked over and you reinvented yourself and you built a legit competitor elsewhere left that to come back here as you have to smash the throne you know right like as the star uh that uh that you were elsewhere and yeah i respect him a lot for that it's just that uh triple h talked about it in his press conference he said it's really really difficult to make a a true baby face these days because wrestling fans they want to boo the good guy like it's just like you know if you're if you're an adult wrestling fan you're not gonna you're gonna find that corny it's like that's for the kids heels are cooler
Starting point is 00:32:28 yeah yeah and it's just with uh cody two years now of of cody being this over as a baby face yeah and he just i feel like he connects with people because of his for lack of better term his story there you go it's a little more real with cody like he actually him winning the title it's like not just his character's goal like it is his life goal like that's why people care um one of your guys also had a big wrestlemania moment night two oh no no i saw gender backstage and it dude i thought about going over and being like can you send a video to my pal jared but it was like a friends and family type by like kid the wrestlers had their kids there
Starting point is 00:33:10 and i was like i don't want to ask him for a video right now so i left him alone um but the night two opener drew mcintyre defeats seth rollins for the title awesome match like incredible opener had the crowd buying all the false finishes Rollins is clicking out kicking out of every claim more that McIntyre sends his way eventually McIntyre beats him clean in the middle of the ring great finish and then he goes and rubs it in CM Punk's face CM Punk doesn't take that it tells him to suck it CM Punk sweeps the leg he fucking takes the cast off like he's cowboy Bob Orton smacks with the cast, and then Damian Priest's music hits. And I thought they were setting up,
Starting point is 00:33:49 especially when Rock and Roman attacked Seth's knee night one. I was like, oh, they're setting Seth up to be real weak night two. He'll win narrowly and then get cashed in on. I like this better. I like the way they weaved in Punk. They made Punk a part of wrestlemania they like gave him a moment where he got a huge pop and a moment that people loved like the smile he had on his face afterwards where he's just like you shouldn't have done that like yeah drew having
Starting point is 00:34:15 that tweet during the match like bored at work lol and then quote yeah after it fuck so funny yeah and damian priest good for him you know what i don't know what i don't know how i feel about him as champ to be honest i like damian priest i like that he's a new yorker he's another guy that grinded on the indies for a long time so i like that he's getting his here um we'll see what i make of his title run but his title win itself i loved i loved the judgment day waiting for him at the top of the ramp and celebrating with him uh bisexual undertaker trended for hours after he won yeah i loved it i mean i you know i'm with you i don't know what to make of uh like forecasting it out like what's it going to look like who's he going to feud with uh like his first segment was just you know comedy segment with our
Starting point is 00:35:01 truth yeah i didn't i liked it i loved, like our truth raising the bell is super funny. Yeah. But like, if you want to make that title real serious, Seth Rollins was the guy to lead the way and take those first steps. But is it just going to be in comedy segments now? I don't know. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I, I don't know. Like, does it cause friction in the judgment day now? Cause I mean like they, like the moment that they had with all of them at the top of the stage and it's like, Rhea's up there with her belt and you know,
Starting point is 00:35:33 Damien Priest has his, like they've kind of just been workhorses. And honestly, Dom has been at the forefront of that. Like he, he's on every damn show, like whether it's a live event or if it's, you know, televised, he's there and he's on every damn show like whether it's a live event or if it's you know televised he's there and he's working it and he was working punk to get him back uh in shape like when he went to
Starting point is 00:35:53 msg um so yeah like it was kind of cool to to see them all kind of collectively get that moment with priest winning the title but yeah i i guess it remains to be seen how the run itself is going to go like do you see him it's going to be a long that's what i was going to say is like is it going to be transitional i don't know didn't mcintyre call him a transit he's like you're just going to be nothing more than a transitional champ when he said that part of me was like that must mean he's not going to be a transitional champ you wouldn't let the heel say that if he's gonna be right but like i don't know he'll hold it till summer slam maybe i could see a title change like a you know save a big one for the cleveland show maybe but also who like who would take it all drew would probably take it off of him right or punk yeah true punk did say in
Starting point is 00:36:41 that interview like with helwani he said he's healthy yeah he took the cast off and he was beating him with it yeah it could be punk and seth comes back later on they said seth is going to take some time off make sure his knee is all good seth comes back later on and you could set that up people are already talking about next year being uh i saw yeah melzer said that he thinks next year is going to be rock first cody obviously it's so far away that anything can change before then i still feel like rock and roman is the match i feel like you give cody another challenger and like rock and roman ahead of the table that's the fucking match right there have rock challenge cody the next time he comes back whether that's summer slam survivor series whatever you have roman screw the rock or beat him down after the match like why the fuck did you think you could come after my title like i know
Starting point is 00:37:29 you think you're the final boss i'm the head of the table here and then have them disagree about that i would have rock babyface for that would you when they eventually do rock roman i think you can you i think you can do either to be honest rock is such a good deal in this final boss mode but you can have them both be heel, but I think Roman comes out looking like the baby face. Yeah. People want to boo the Rock right now. I know, and people want to cheer Roman right now.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Even on Cody's promo, he kind of shouted out Roman, and they got the thank you Roman chance. Exactly. Let's see. Roman Reigns tweeted today, which is interesting because he didn't do the press conference after wrestlemania um that was smart yeah i agree uh he tweeted it's just it's a video of him just walking on the treadmill and it says yesterday i mourned today is day one so he's already like like it's not like you're not writing me off tv
Starting point is 00:38:28 and i thought it would be that i thought we wouldn't hear a peep from him not a tweet not an instagram post i thought maybe hayman would come like address it on raw or something or hayman will probably be on smackdown because i don't think rock will be on smackdown um but we'll see yeah we'll see how they address it we'll see how they bring roman back i hope roman's not gone too long but my gut says he'll probably be gone till summer slam i don't know but i don't know they got the next like three out of the next four pay-per-views are international internationally yeah it'd be fucking cool for him to show up at one of those like the crowd would go insane at one of those do you think that
Starting point is 00:39:06 if they hold him out for any amount of time right now like say it's a month or two that he's going to get a baby face reaction when he returns i think the longer you hold him out for yeah yeah because he's not he's not going to do anything to turn baby face like right now like they being the heel was like the fact that he had the power of being the champion and was always cheating to win without the title like what is he yeah that's why he should have won no no yes you give him an inch and he takes a mile bob listen Listen, we know what Cody can be without the title. We know that. He can still be super over, move merch, sell out house shows.
Starting point is 00:39:54 People come to see Cody. He's got a WrestleMania merch record. Did you see that? Nobody's ever sold more merch at WrestleMania than Cody. He doesn't need the title to do that. The face of the company should have the title roman is the face of the company not anymore he ain't he wasn't the vince era this ain't the vince era brother it's the triple h era the paul the face of the company paul the back paul the
Starting point is 00:40:19 back you see them chant that at the hall of? I don't like using government names as a pretender. They chanted that, and you saw Sammy behind Triple H. He leaned forward. He's like, that has to be the first time that happened, right? Triple H is nodding. He was like, yeah. Nice to see Stephanie back, too. She kicked off night two.
Starting point is 00:40:38 She was at the Hall of Fame. She wore the throwback ECW hat that she used to wear when she was with him. I thought that was great. Yeah. She had a good, are you ready? ready triple h his promo at the beginning of night one is hysterical just he came out and said welcome to wrestlemania because they want to stop using vince's soundbite of him saying welcome to wrestlemania so now yeah yeah i like it i also love the night one main event ria retains her title against becky found out afterwards rhea had a panic attack
Starting point is 00:41:06 right before she went through the curtain becky had a 102 fever and strep throat so the fact that they went out there despite those circumstances and delivered a great opening match i thought was pretty awesome rhea had a panic attack i know yeah it's like i have panic attacks i didn't think like rhea ripley was the kind of person who would have panic attacks and that's foolish that's why you got to end the stigma and stuff like that but yeah she seems like the most confident person walking the face of the earth yeah i mean she main evented uh a similar size crowd in her home country you would think that that would be a bigger thing maybe she maybe she freaked out about that too i don't know but that is surprising wow yeah um loved that match i liked the the crazy ladder match that followed it on night one
Starting point is 00:41:51 the six-pack challenge i didn't love the like we all knew they're gonna split the titles based on the way they announced the stipulation of like both sets have to be treated it's like well that's never happened they had them on yeah like once i saw what it looked like i was like that was the other thing i was like this is the first ladder match in history we're setting up a ladder in the middle of the ring is not gonna work work yeah you can't reach the titles so i didn't like that i felt like it put a weird like lull on the match when austin and grayson won the first set it's gonna like that's why i don't care no one knew it was happening yeah definitely and then the moment we got of honestly one of the best moments of night Jason won the first set. That's why I didn't care. No one knew it was happening. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And then the moment we got of, honestly, one of the best moments of night one is our truth. Getting the hot tag in a ladder match, hitting all of his childhood hero, John Cena's moves and then getting a pinfall. One, two,
Starting point is 00:42:38 three, get a big pop and everything. Them winning was a good WrestleMania moment as well. That almost reminded me of Zack Ryder his wrestlemania moment where it was like our truth this guy's never won at wrestlemania he's never won the tag titles with the ms despite them being a tag team for a while remember they were so violent as a tag team they did like the roster walked out on wwe and punk had to commentate and shit like that yep so it was a good moment for them also i was happy for the ms because we spent so much time with him backstage before the video game thing he was the coolest guy in the world and knew an incredible amount about barstool like i think he follows it
Starting point is 00:43:12 decently close he's talking about clemmer's solitary confinement stream it's like oh you know what you're talking about then yeah yeah yeah ms is cool i remember like during the pandemic he came on the podcast with us and was just shooting the shit. Yeah, he's always available for media. And we were also, they were trying to round everyone up to go on stage for the tournament. And they were like, come on, everyone on stage. We were all mic'd up and everything.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And me, Brandon Walker, and the Miz were the only three people in the entire group that listened to instructions and were there. And Miz turned around, he's like, what the fuck? Let's look at us. The two barstool guys and the Mizs who would have thought we were the most like yeah um that was good the mysterio andrade versus santos and dirty dom it was fine it wasn't bad but it was kind of a nothing match they did it for the the travis kelsey moment it seemed or jason kelsey jason kelsey yeah so i uh not that i give up too much of a fuck but like there were no turns in during this wrestlemania nobody turned nobody and right and no heel turn no face turn nothing
Starting point is 00:44:18 and and i feel like carlito was uh there was a chance for that in this match. That could have been. Um, yeah. I mean, not that like, you know, it's not like a, a white hot rivalry or storyline that's going on there,
Starting point is 00:44:33 but I mean, just to see something, um, yeah. Like, and then Adam Pierce tweets out like, Oh, you never know who's going to show up on the raw after mania.
Starting point is 00:44:42 No one fucking showed up. Nobody. That's from NXT. Yeah. Yeah. mania no one fucking showed up nobody guys from nxt yeah yeah there were no no turns at wrestlemania no returns at uh the raw after mania not to be yeah that was the thing i thought the raw after mania was a great raw i don't know if it's a great raw after mania like we didn't get those raw after mania moments the opening segment too was like i thought it started really strong cody emotional video package i'm fucking crying i'm explaining to my girlfriend why i'm crying good stuff i didn't like the rocks bro when he came out and then i'll hold i'll let you hold mine if you let me hold
Starting point is 00:45:20 yours it's like what that sounds a little sus fellas well there's gotta be a reason for that they didn't do that for no reason like that's gonna be a call back to something that's gave him well i saw cody rhodes uh came out in like 2013 when the rock unveiled his title and cody was like i want to like look at it i don't know if it was referencing that or not i couldn't believe they had a segment going back to 2013 i thought that was really cool uh and yeah and then the rock handed him something the hell could that be it was so tiny that it's like i don't know what it could be we couldn't see it in their hands well he's got big hands yeah he does true and he's like don't ever break the rock's heart again we both know what this is well i don't
Starting point is 00:45:59 know how you break it the first time yeah yeah, yeah. Very, very confusing segment there. But yeah, at this point, I'm at the point in my wrestling fandom where seeing Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania, I feel like I'm watching like an older player and I'm just grateful that he's there. Yeah, yeah. We love Rey. Jimmy and Jey Uso, night one. One of the most anticipated matches of the weekend for everybody
Starting point is 00:46:27 this was like dude the amount of no yeet shirts i saw wwe world you know the access renamed i was like who the fuck is that jimmy uso guy i don't know jimmy had so many guys but there were a lot of the red no yeet shirts a lot of the yeet shirts all the kids were making custom yeet glasses they had like a craft station kids were literally i saw were making custom yeet glasses they had like a craft station kids were literally i saw a kid making yeet glasses i was like this is fucking cool the match was pretty pretty hot like crowd for it i mean night one the crowd wasn't as good because it was fucking freezing and windy but the crowd had you know lil wayne for jay's entrance they're doing the yeet they're doing the yeet with every moment of offense for jay but the match never kicked into a high
Starting point is 00:47:06 gear unfortunately it's not a brett no one it's more of a matt and jeff hardy like wrestlemania 25 where it was like man we thought that was gonna be awesome yeah it was a big spot was just it felt like that went on forever yeah like the whole fucking match was super kicks yeah that was super kicks i was like the the expectations that i had for it uh it didn't come close to meeting my expectations and obviously i'm a bloodline bobo uh yeah i thought that i was like that match might make us cry like going into it i was like they're gonna pull on the heartstrings and yeah i think they they tried to tell us it's like it's hypocritical but they tried to tell a
Starting point is 00:47:46 story a little too much i felt like i think the fans kind of just wanted them to go out and have a banger like and you know have some psychology in there for the finish or you know the climax but like i don't know they it they started strong didn't like jay attack jimmy right off the bat run out of the ring like it should have been more of that more of a sprint yeah it did it didn't like jay attack jimmy right off the bat run out of the ring like it should have been more of that more of a sprint yeah it did it didn't live up to the hype for me and like rakishi was there for the hall of fame how do you not have rakishi involved here like just add to the story um it didn't it didn't add to their story didn't take away from the story i didn't feel like it resolved anything it didn't like further it down the line it didn't add a new wrinkle like it's just i don't know like i think forgettable yeah like i i mean everyone on paper it's like obviously
Starting point is 00:48:33 jay's gonna win this match and then it's like that that felt like a spot that you could have swerved us because like like jimmy is like i said before has been a stooge ever since he rejoined the bloodline. Like, of course he's been built towards not winning this match. Jay's main event. Jay, you think he's going to fucking lose to a stooge? No. So if there's no interference,
Starting point is 00:48:54 why are we surprised that Jay won? Like where, where's the, like, I don't know. There was no twist. There was no turn. Like it didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:49:01 It just, it just was. This was another one where I thought 99% Jay's going to win. But when we started talking about it mid match, we were like, this would be the spot for a swerve. Like you put Jimmy over it. I don't think it would hurt Jay to be honest,
Starting point is 00:49:13 even though he's main event, Jay and Jimmy's a stooge. Like you said, I think people look at the use. It was on the same level because you know, they're twins. So they, they're the same.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Um, but yeah, so disappointing. Definitely the biggest disappointment of the weekend was was the uso match um jade cargill bianca belair naomi defeat damage control eight minutes it was another one where i would compare it to the ray match i don't think it was bad but it was just it's fine everyone was good at it but i will say that like little fucking pin thing that jade does where she like that oh yeah that did something for me brother yeah she's a storm is coming tell you what a storm is coming not the
Starting point is 00:49:54 only thing that's coming um my match of the night night one sammy zane defeats gunther for the intercontinental Championship. I was really looking forward to this match. I was a little worried, to be honest, because it felt like there was definitely a portion of the fans that wanted Chad Gable in this spot. And I would have liked to see Chad Gable in this spot as well. I thought the Gable-Gunther feud was amazing. But when Sami starts his entrance and he's talking to his wife and kid, he says goodbye to his kid. I don't want my kid to be out there. I don't want him to see this. Then he and he talks to chad gable and they have their
Starting point is 00:50:28 talk by the way we didn't have audio in the crowd which is crazy i had to go back and like watch the segment we just saw it playing with no audio it's crazy then he gets to gorilla and when he turns that corner kevin owens is just standing there smacking him smacks him in the face he's like go do it go down he's in his face going nuts that crowd is going nuts like that was the perfect little pre-match segment that was needed to get the crowd fired up for the match and the crowd stayed fired up for the whole match he hit the fucking brain buster on the turnbuckle a shout out to el generico for the first time in his wwe career feels like something that vince probably said yeah that move's banned
Starting point is 00:51:05 as soon as he saw a video of it and then Triple H was like ah fuck it it's Wrestlemania yeah yeah um and he dethroned Gunther it was a big you know underdog baby face win before we got the ultimate underdog win night two did you like this did you like the title change do you like that it's off Gunther now I loved it yeah uh one of my buddies that was there was like wow this is awesome like the way that they're presenting it this has to be like his first singles title win in wwe i was like brother this is his fourth time being ic champ alone yeah uh just with that belt but um but it's it's a reward for i think how awesome he was like he was never gonna beat roman um yeah for the title but it was that match is so fucking good i
Starting point is 00:51:58 re-watched that match last week just hyping up for wrestleble no the montreal match oh okay roman versus sammy oh my god that's a good match that's like the crowd is money in the bank 2011 levels it's crazy correct uh but yeah like he was never going to beat roman on this run he was never going to be the guy to dethrone roman but it's like all right well we you can dethrone the next most dominant guy in the company and you can win a title and it's the next 666 days he held it for. That's funny. He's like the devil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:29 And I think this, I honestly don't think it hurts Gunther at all. I think it elevates Gunther. I think Gunther just gets slotted up into the main event picture. He could be Cody Rhodes first challenger. I don't know. I agree. And I think he will be unless he's working with Damian Priest.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And I don't know, there's some sort of like, no, because, um, I don't think they'll do that because what's his face. Jay won on raw last night. So they'll start building to that right away.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah. We'll see. But yeah, Gunther immediately just goes into the, the main event scene now, which it's him, him dropping the title to Sammy. It's like,
Starting point is 00:53:04 Sammy, this is your reward for how awesome your work was during that run um and now gunther it's like you graduate like it was it was a win for both guys and it was a great match and it would have been great to see chad gable in that spot we'll get the chad gable sammy zane feud now which is going to be awesome it'll probably start as a friendly feud. It seemed that way on raw at least, but Sammy may have ended WrestleMania night one last year.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Like you got to find a good spot on the card for him the year after that. And this was the perfect spot. Like in hindsight, I feel like even the Gable fans could probably agree. This was a great move. Great moment at WrestleMania. Um, night two, going back to night the philadelphia street fight between the pride bobby lashley angelo dawkins montez ford um against the final testament carrying cross and the authors of pain gotta be honest was not looking forward to this at all even though they slapped the philly
Starting point is 00:53:56 street fight gimmick on it i was like oh that's that's a filler match if i've ever seen one that's a wrestlemania kickoff match if they used to do kickoff matches i was pretty present pleasantly surprised by it when they have bubba come out as the special guest referee he's got a tucked in shirt he looks hysterical in a tucked in shirt and then they do the little spot where he puts on the glasses they do the wasap they the table spot at the end that was tough when they just put him on the table and it broke okay no um but yeah i'm exactly uh it was fine for exactly what it was it was again an eight minute match much like the girls match on night one you just needed to fill some time do a couple fun spots get the crowd to
Starting point is 00:54:37 pop they did it yeah i enjoyed it it would have been cool if Devon came out. But yeah, I mean, everyone got their shit in and it was a nice little crowd pleaser. LA Knight and AJ. Pretty good match, but like nothing out of the ordinary. I think it went the way many of us thought it would. The finish, I thought, almost came out of nowhere. Like I thought we were going to get a couple of false finishes with people doing finishes. I think it was the first time LA Knight hit the finish and he got the one two three aj's new music terrible dude oh no how do you change aj styles music he's got one of the best themes in the
Starting point is 00:55:14 company yeah i don't like one that's at least recognizable right off the bat right very short well yeah because no one knew that was a debut yeah Yeah, I hate it. I absolutely hated it. It's not. And I like the fight they got into at media day, though. I thought that was cool. Bloody nose. But it's not going to be a theme that grows on me. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You know what is the ultimate theme that grew on me that we used to argue about on the early days of From the Top Rope? What? To burn it down in seth rollins oh yeah remember i used to say that specific sound bite of burn it down i used to be like that's horrible they got to take that out yeah i'm in on it that's i mean it's like synonymous with seth rollins at this point after me yeah hand up you were right jared you were right all those years ago thank you um logan paul defeats kevin owens and randy orton retains his new music logan paul oh my god he's like one of the biggest stars in your company and he has like generic ass
Starting point is 00:56:13 music like come on it is yeah i like to call it dvd loading screen music it just feels like it's meant to loop and he had his pride entrance coming out on the pride truck obviously pride branded all over the ring i didn't love that i did i was fine on the pride truck. Obviously pride branded all over the ring. I didn't love that. I was fine with the pride, but the prime in the ring, I didn't hate to be honest. I was like, different ads.
Starting point is 00:56:32 No, I was like, he came out of the pride truck, the different led ads for every match. I hated the look of that. Like the American home shield for the main event, the wing stop, the fucking less fruscus, the dude wipes all over the place it was like a little less branding just be
Starting point is 00:56:49 especially because it was leds i think there's just too many lights in wwa in general too many led lights all over everything everything shouldn't be a screen they're putting screens on screens jared yeah but at the same time like it's just it's a business and yeah i get it you watch sports i mean nba's got the rotating you know yeah ads on the court yeah whatever logo put the prime logo in the ring and put the ads on the i didn't i didn't hate the prime logo as much as i thought i would i didn't even notice it like the only time i noticed it was when cody was in the ring and he kissed the ring and kissed it yeah like that's the only time that i noticed it but yeah i mean it's like you know you you have to look at it at like we we don't even have
Starting point is 00:57:36 pyro anymore like how many guys have pyro it's like bobby lashley cody roads and like it was part of like budget cuts they're like yeah we just like you know it's expensive dude you're a billion dollar company what do you mean it's expensive a couple fireworks couple fucking bottle rockets too much like we're talking about here so yeah i like this match i thought this match was pretty fucking good and another one where i was like that was exactly what it needed to be it wasn't like it didn't blow me away i wasn't like this was the match of the weekend but yeah your viral moment of i show speed the streamer getting rko the guy who's in the prime bottle suit yeah you got your funny moment in the entrance of kevin owens backing up the golf cart and picking randy or not being
Starting point is 00:58:17 like fuck his truck get in let's go kick logan paul's ass you got an awesome RK, RKO, RKO out of nowhere. When Kevin Owens went for the pop-up power bomb, got RKO himself. I love Kevin Owens, ECW gear too. I'm a sucker for like the themed Philly shit like that. Um, I know Seth Rollins did the,
Starting point is 00:58:37 the mummers parade night one. People love that local Philly. People loved that. Um, but yeah, good match. I was okay with Logan Paul paul retaining obviously mckeven owens guy so i was rooting for kevin and i would have liked to see him win the most but he doesn't
Starting point is 00:58:50 on a wrestlemania where re is the only other champ that retained i got it and also logan paul's been doing a pretty good job getting that u.s title everywhere bringing it to ufc pissing people off because he brought it to ufc having it on the table while he does his podcast it's it's a smart move by them yeah it's he's a prime Wrestlemania you know he's he's got the now he's got the thing of him retaining the title in the prime ring whatever yeah and it's like a it's a title that like he can just hang on to and no one's gonna notice if he's just like a champion for like two years and holds it no one's gonna be like come on like you gotta free up the u.s title it's like nah just go walk around with a big gold belt with
Starting point is 00:59:30 the wwe logo on it go for it dude yeah although my one knock on logan paul is that i couldn't leave wrestlemania because him and jake wouldn't stop shutting the fuck up in the hallway like they they were just talking in the hallway afterwards and they had a big crowd around him because it's logan and jake paul talking so that everyone's trying to film them and we couldn't get out so we were like jesus christ we'd like when was this right after night two right after the main event they're in like the sweet hallway so i see a security guard and he goes guys we got to clear this hallway and he starts pushing his way through i'm like yes this is my fucking guy he don't give a fuck about the pulse i'm getting right behind this guy we're making a beeline we're gonna hit the shuttle we'll get back to the hotel as soon as he saw the pulse he fucking whipped out his
Starting point is 01:00:11 phone he just started taking a video he's like oh cool pulse i thought you were my guy yeah i thought this was my guy yeah he didn't clear the way at all he waited for them to be done talking fuck um and then the only match we haven't talked about all weekend, Bayley defeats EO Sky via pinfall. I was pleasantly surprised by how hot the crowd was for this match. This match is in a tricky spot. You're the match before the main event on night two. We've seen a lot of wrestling this weekend,
Starting point is 01:00:41 especially if you're one of the hardcore fans that was at SmackDown and you go to an indie show, an NXT stand and deliver, and two nights of WrestleMania. The crowd was really, really hot for for bailey a little weird entrance she had like an egyptian pharaoh entrance i was like i don't know where that came from but cool her gear looks cool eos guy had a lot of heat and they put on a pretty fucking good match eos guy had that cool reversal where she like fucking flipped and landed on her feet bailey had a good fire up comeback bailey to belly suplex she had a new finish like the old dirty deeds move is her new finish i guess the first way he did it the forwards face plant ddt it's a tricky move because i feel like always no matter who uses it half the people that take it take it really well and half the people that
Starting point is 01:01:21 take it make it look like shit you almost don't have control over how it's going to look. So I don't know if she'll continue to use that, but, um, I was happy to see this. I actually, I hope I could say this. I heard like Bailey,
Starting point is 01:01:33 like kind of like not to expose the business here, talking about her match before WrestleMania. So it was really cool to like watch her match and be like, Oh shit. She fucking called that a couple of days ago. She said she was going to a couple days ago she said she was gonna do that move and she did it so yeah i thought that was cool i i'll be honest with you bob um i watched the whole match i have no recollection of it because i was freaking out
Starting point is 01:01:57 about roman and cody like i yeah i saw it but i was you were counting down the minutes yeah i was like i was like what time is it i was like what time is down the minutes Yeah I was like what time is it I was like what time is it how much time we got left Like what time like when they started They went on at Like 10 The main event right The main event went on so early
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah it was like 930 Like when they started they ran they started to run The video package for the main event Like 930 I was like what the. I was like, what the fuck? I think bell to bell. It was like 50 minutes or something to match because I saw someone posted the full match on Twitter and it's like a 50 minute video. Yeah. Like I had a long celebration afterwards.
Starting point is 01:02:36 That seemed not like I don't want to be like it wasn't planned. It was a shoot, brother. But like it almost seemed a little awkward at points when he's like, get out of bruce pritchard and triple h and they played cody's theme again while triple h was walking out there and then like i thought cody was gonna maybe get back on the mic after they came out and say something but he just wanted them out there for the celebration listen it was beautiful celebration not knocking the celebration but i for sure thought wrestlemania went off the air before he called out triple h and bruce pritchard i was surprised to find out and it felt like we listened to cody's theme on loop for 20 minutes leaving the arena too oh yeah the amount of times the crowd went whoa over and over and over again
Starting point is 01:03:18 and then the other funny thing that uh on night one we're leaving the arena and brandon was kind of like playfully giving us shit about how many people were recognizing him and not me and nate and as we're leaving we're in the crowd and you know you do the wrestlemania shuffle out where everyone's shuffling two inches at a time it's horrible every time every wrestlemania never gets easier we just started going under our breath brandon we you brendan big fan everyone thank you thank you yep yep and like you know five minutes past we've done it to him a dozen times he got him a dozen times turns around he's like a lot of people recognizing me boys you see that and we're like you want to know a secret
Starting point is 01:03:56 it was us for the past five minutes and he was cracking up it was a fun time really fun time i wish you could have been there jared i i would have loved to have been there with you, Bob. That was a nightmare getting out of what was that? WrestleMania 31? 35. You and me at MetLife. I've been to, at this point, 10 nights of WrestleMania. Eight actual WrestleManias, but obviously two of them were two-night WrestleManias.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. Ten shows. Nothing was as bad as you and me at wrestlemania 35 i think we eventually we were like all right we can't get an uber we can't get on a train we're both trying to go back to new york city we walked like two miles away from the highway yes we got on the highway and just started walking and and had to like pay a a cabbie that kind of cab like he's like i don't like this cab is not supposed to go into the city we were like brother how much you know everybody's got a price
Starting point is 01:04:49 and that was it was cold it was raining we had just watched like the longest wrestlemania it was literally our wrestlemania with literally the longest ronda rousey main event yeah and then we recorded a podcast right afterwards credit to you because it was you know my mom's basement i was like you want to record a podcast at four in the morning and you're like i guess so bob you know credit to jared because especially after wrestlemania 40 the fact that you were available for media very nice those tweets people didn't give you any time it was too soon the guy that said, is Jared available for media? I said no.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I saw that. You weren't yet available. Yeah. That's why this is coming Tuesday night. You know, we needed to give him time. Yesterday, he mourned. Today is day one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Well, yesterday, yesterday, like, so, like, you know, Sunday night, Roman loses. Monday morning, I have therapy, MLB Network, baseball is dead. Then where did I have to go? I had to go somewhere? Back to therapy to talk about. Back to therapy. Then I had to do section 10. It was like the longest day ever, but I feel like I had to like also go somewhere.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yes. I can't remember. Yeah. And then today, wake up, go to Fenway, come back, have dinner,
Starting point is 01:06:13 like throw down dinner. Watching the Red Sox lose seven to one. So I had to run that. I don't do that. That was mean of me, but yeah, Trevor story seasons over. And yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah. So yeah, basically sent late. I don't do that. That was mean of me, but yeah, Trevor story seasons over. And yeah. Yeah. So yeah, basically sent late. I'm not exaggerating since Roman lost. All I've done is go to sleep and work, perform tasks. I haven't had a second to just sit alone with my thoughts yet. Since Roman,
Starting point is 01:06:39 I feel like that's like depression. I feel like that's like, you look up depression in the dictionary and you got it. What's the opposite? Because I haven't had a chance to really face the moment. It hasn't set in. No, no,
Starting point is 01:06:51 no, no. And are you afraid like for the moment where it does set in? Yeah. Yeah, I am. So maybe you can relate, you can definitely relate to this,
Starting point is 01:07:00 but like, so back when I was in like middle school, we would like, that was when the pay-per-views were on like sunday nights or whatever and it was almost like every every pay-per-view the build-up was just like man like life isn't gonna be the same on the other side of this you know like every pay-per-view like the build to every pay-per-view was like shit is gonna hit the fan tonight and we are gonna be living in a completely different world on monday morning and if i don't see it live like my work my world is over like i need to see it live yes so like what i would do like my best friend growing up i haven't seen him in 20 years now but
Starting point is 01:07:44 hopefully he's doing well somewhere. We haven't spoken either. I don't know what, where he is. Uh, but here's this, hopefully here's this, his name is Andrew.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And it used to be, uh, we would, uh, get a pay-per-view. He would get a pay-per-view and then we would take a month off. So that's a great to have a buddy system. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:03 But I was the same way. I couldn't get every pay-per-view. I was a a rich like the pay-per-views were fucking costly yeah back then they were what like 40 bucks 50 bucks for me 95 like growing up and my mom was great like i would try to make her feel guilty the morning after like if she didn't buy me pay-per-view so i would either be like everyone i wanted to see win. They all won and I missed it. And she'd be like, well, at least they all won. That's so good.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Like they're so happy for you. And if they, and if they lost, I'd be like, oh my God, everyone lost last night. She'd be like, well, thank God we didn't buy it. Mom and Fox had it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I remember like, you know, we would have the one month it was at my house one month.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It was at his, and then we would take the month off and that month off before I went to school, my dad would print out the results. So it'd be like, you know, this match summary winner. And I remember being like,
Starting point is 01:09:01 wait a second. Can you, can you like do that before and he's like no no no he's like it's not like i can like get the results before they have him i thought he was like maddening events yeah i mean like here's the script call sheet for tonight yeah yeah yeah but that like i had to you weren't cool unless you knew what you had to know had to at least know like austin's still the champ or like he got screwed over last night but i didn't have to go through the printouts i
Starting point is 01:09:31 had wwe.com at least where well that was wwe.com oh okay i see he would yeah he would print off the results that i would have like the physical piece of paper to take to school with me gotcha that i knew show your friends and stuff yeah yeah um but that's kind of how like this wrestlemania felt like it was like the first time that since i was a kid that i felt a loss at a pay-per-view that lingered into my personal life yeah like you know like because i remember I remember being a Kane fan and having to go to school that Tuesday. Walking into school the Monday after King of the Ring 98 being like, fucking, here's my dick. Suck it, dude.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I'm the champ. And then having to show up on Tuesday being like, fuck. And he never won again and he never won again he never won again like I had wait one day no Kane never won the WWE title ever again he won the world heavyweight title heavyweight over my guy never won
Starting point is 01:10:38 the WWE title ever again I had it for 24 hours I was not had it for 24 Ray won it for fucking 2 hours and then John Cena beat him for it on Raw that was crazy Kane deserved it I got to be WWE champion
Starting point is 01:10:55 for 24 hours so to have my guy Roman be champion for 4 fucking years I deserved it I deserved that run yeah you got a lot of time with him as champ yeah I did I did and yeah but like the last time a loss a wrestling loss lingered like that for me obviously Daniel Bryan's retirement that wasn't like a loss that's like he retired due to like injury circumstances so i wouldn't count that
Starting point is 01:11:30 when undertaker beat sean michaels at wrestlemania 26 and it meant the end of his career yeah i definitely tried to get off school the next day i definitely tried to be like on my stomach you know my throat i think my yeah my poop and my mom was like i know you're sad over the heartbreak kid go to school yeah i was sad though but at least for you this isn't the end of roman's career as he said it's day one i don't think it's the last time roman's gonna hold the title i think roman is once again gonna be wwe champ at some point uh i do i don't think it'll last as long as this title reign did but his career is far from over despite some people they posted the hug with hayman at the top and they're like they're both gonna retire together on top it's like are you crazy i know that roman reigns doesn't have another fucking 20 years in
Starting point is 01:12:08 the tank but on this current schedule where he's a part-timer he can wrestle four times a year for the next five six seven years if he wants to right yeah it's not over it's not over it's just the end of a run that uh yeah i think this run like brought me back. Like I was fading a little bit, like obviously like I was still super into it, but like I wasn't missing raw or SmackDown like during this run. Yeah. Like before it was like,
Starting point is 01:12:36 like the whole, the whole Roman title runners, like specifically this WrestleMania. Uh, I mean definitely this WrestleMania, but like more so like during this run, like I was buying the merch again, like i was going to show like you do have you have so much roman merch are you gonna buy his whole jordan line i assume you are yeah uh-huh air rains it
Starting point is 01:12:54 is pretty fire yeah it's it's also super fucking cool like as a wrestling fan like wrestling is obviously not always the coolest thing roman reignsigns having a Jordan line kind of makes wrestling cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Paul Levesque went on with Complex to do like a shopping with like Joe LaPuma. And he was like, yeah, he's like, you know, I respect the hell out of Travis Scott for being to influence the sneaker industry because he's cool and he can make things cool. He's like, you know who else can make stuff cool us like wwe it's like you ever go into like other stadiums and like their their professional sports teams are playing wrestling entrance teams and he's
Starting point is 01:13:33 like you don't think that if we put out like a like a john cena sneaker or like a whatever sneaker that uh people wouldn't buy like of course they would dude that's a missed opportunity cena should have had shoot well i think he did actually have shoes in his prime I think he went but not in his prime after he retired true Cena had shoes for Wrestlemania 30 I think he had like a green pair of shoes for that Bray match
Starting point is 01:13:56 not green but they were like white and green with green trim or something yeah I think I mean Cena wore the the Kowloon one air force ones at wrestlemania last year so i have awesome yeah i have signed you have another pair right yeah i do yep signed by bobby wong and andy wong never worn them they're just in a display no you can't yeah yeah never wear those i i still gotta make it to kowloon I would love to make it there one of these days.
Starting point is 01:14:27 What is it? Smackdown? So I'm coming to Boston soon? It's July. It's not that soon. But yeah. I mean, you got to come. You got to come to do like a show.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Well, dude, we had fucking war games here. And I had six seats. And I'm pretty sure I told you to come. I'm pretty sure I asked you. I invited you to come. I think you did. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I was like, I have four seats for war games and I went backstage and I'm sure they would have loved to have had you involved with that. The boys love it when Robbie's backstage. Yeah. He's just lingering around. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Yeah. So like next time you get it, you got to come and we got to do, we got to do a, a Callum. I know. I want to reunite with a Coley too. I know he's not a,
Starting point is 01:15:17 you know, he's not living in Boston and stuff, but I texted him today because I saw a Coley and Tyler doppelgangers walking together in the city. I swear on seventh half, I'm like, Oh my God, Coley and Tyler doppelgangers walking together in the city. I swear on 7th Ave, I'm like, oh my God, Coley and Tyler, what the fuck are they doing here? And it was not them. They turned around. I was like, oh, I was like fake
Starting point is 01:15:34 diesel and fucking fake cane versions. Yeah. Anything else on Wrestlemania? That's all I got. This felt good to vent. Like I needed to say those things i needed to make the point about um uh like a favorite wrestler being like a favorite sports team like for shame the people that shamed me into wanting roman to win it's like you're just
Starting point is 01:15:58 you're not a good wrestling fan if you don't have a guy that you stick with heel and shit gimmick and all that stuff you're not a good wrestling fan if you don't have a guy that you stick with the heel and shit gimmick and all that stuff you're not a good wrestling fan you gotta no because you're just popping off for the ride for the storyline though that's fine we'll ride for like i just want the best storyline at all times i mean i'm invested in other wrestlers storylines it's just they're not my favorite wrestler i do think uh it's it's normal to have a favorite wrestler, an overall favorite. Like Daniel Bryan. He's my guy. No matter who he faces. I mean, you saw me at Kofi Mania.
Starting point is 01:16:29 I was excited to see Kofi win and complete his story. Yeah, that was cool. One of the best WrestleMania matches and moments I've ever seen live. Yeah. But during Daniel Bryan's entrance, I was yessing my ass off. The only person in the arena yessing my ass off. Yeah, exactly. It's just how it is sometimes
Starting point is 01:16:45 yeah like it would be i think it would be much different if i was just like oh roman's this dominant champion this is this is my favorite wrestler it's like no no no like i have been a roman guy since day you were there for the succotash i was there for succotash i was there for succotash i was i was there for succ tash and the fucked up top row of teeth. I was. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:09 That was the WrestleMania 40 from the top rope presented by my mom's basement recap. Jared, thank you for appearing. And also thank you to everyone who tweeted us and was like, are we going to get a recap? I liked seeing that people were like excited to hear us, you know, come together and give our takes and stuff it's always cool to hear i yeah i do appreciate the listeners a lot and i apologize in advance because i feel like i was
Starting point is 01:17:33 super annoying i don't care like i needed to talk about this oh no no no i needed to bet if i wanted you know fucking wrestlemania analysis i could have got joe blow off the street right but this is this is from the top rope we need the guys that are riding and dying for their wrestlers we need the rocket that's how it is still real to me damn it great note to end on all right we'll uh talk to you whenever the next time something happens that constitutes an emergency pot can't wait

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