My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 349 - X-MEN 97 S1E8 RECAP WITH CLEM AND JOSE YOUNGS

Episode Date: May 3, 2024

Robbie Fox and Clem are joined by Jose Youngs to recap and discuss #XMen97 Episode 8: 'Tolerance Is Extinction - Part 1'! Plus, they discuss a little '#StarWars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace' in honor of the May the 4th rerelease. This is the very first time the three of these guys have done a podcast in-person together as well! Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports. I am your host Robbie Fox, and for the first time ever in person, me and Clem are here with Jose Youngs, a New Yorker now. Oh, don't. Hey, doesn't like that. I might live in New York, but I will never be in new england there for real but uh yeah we said we would do this when jose of course announced he was moving to new york on the show and uh here we are we've done it you're in town for the Knicks game. Bing bong. Hopefully by the time that this is out, you know,

the Knicks have won and moved on. I don't want to do any more streams. This time, look. Here, you can't see it on the thing, but I'm wearing my Knicks shirt today. Oh, look at Bing Bob. Bing Bob. No, you're not. He's a Suns fan.

Celtics fan. Celtics fan. I thought you were a Suns fan. Well, I was born, like, all right. I love the Suns because I lived about a five-minute walk from them. Okay. Grew up a diehard Celtics fan. Makes sense.

But if the Suns, they were always playing. Same as the Diamondbacks and the Cardinals. I lived there for 16 years. You got to kind of support them. Yeah. 18 years in Rhode Island, 16 in Phoenix, and then a little bit in L.A. No one's going to be like, you can't be a Suns fan, sir. That's just one of those teams.

The year I moved there, they still had Nash and Sean Mary. Oh, that's a fun-ass team. John Rich just became a Diamondbacks fan because he's like, we don't have any Diamondbacks fans. They call themselves snakes. When I went to tour ASU was when the All-Star game was in Phoenix, and Shaq was on the Suns. That's how long it was.

It's down there. But we're not here to talk basketball today. Today we're here to talk X-Men 97 yet again. Oh, my God, what a show. The finale has begun. Tolerance is Extinction, part one. We'll get part two next week, and then the final part the week after,

and that'll conclude season one. Season two is allegedly, as we've talked about, kind of in the can. Like, they're animating it still, but I think the voice work and the writing is pretty much done, so that's good. We'll probably get that at some point in 2025. So we've gone, like, every few episodes,

we're like, so what do you think about it so far? And it usually is the same answer. Jose, are we going to get like the deep breathing when I talk about you? I didn't realize you were an X-Men guy until we had you on a couple of months ago. Like how is, I mean,

this is the guy who like, yeah, what are your thoughts? We've told the viewers. I really enjoy it. It's, I ran into Robbie at UFC 300 and we were covering a power slap. And we were killing time.

And we literally just talked about comic books for like an hour, as we do when we're in the same room. And X-Men lore is probably the most complicated in all of Marvel. Like, it's really hard to keep up. Like, I love the X-Men. You love the X-Men. There are people who have, well, like the back of their hands. I am not that deep.

Like every team, right? Every faction, every subset. Extinction, ecstatic, like X-Force, like Excalibur. Like there was X-Men on the West Coast. There was X-Men on the East Coast. But I really enjoy this because it's kind of streamlining it and x-men opposed to any other like marvel property in the comic books was that was the timeline just moved forward and people aged things happened like people had babies and like they weren't peter parker wasn't a teenager for

40 years yeah like so that's what i enjoyed and i think that's what the show is doing like they are taking john burns baby which he wrote for like decades and are translating it beautifully while also adding a little bit of sprinkles and people that maybe didn't read it then like the madeline pryor that showed up when she was like the goblin queen yep that's playing that's happening now in the comic books like she really she was the goblin queen yep that's playing that's happening now in the comic books like she really she was the goblin queen like obviously decade decades ago but she's popped back into spider-man actually right now and kind of dealing with ben reilly type situation and like mary jane has superpowers and it's like a whole thing but like the goblin queen they fought they beat her and then like last month just came back.

Wow. So it's a little sprinkle of like old and new while keeping it, while staying faithful. And also staying faithful to like the original cartoon. Even this week, we saw some cameos at the end from other cartoons, like spoilers for this week's episode. I'm sure you hear 7th Ave as well. The fact that they built podcast studios with no soundproofing on the street is... That's the Barstool difference. That's the Barstool difference.

But we got Spider-Man 94, which is awesome. Like a little glimpse of him, a little Omega Red, a little, was it Super Samurai in there as well? Silver Samurai. Silver Samurai in there. I hope that by Tolerance's Extinction Part 3, we hear from Spider-Man. Maybe we get him interacting with the X-Men a little bit.

I would love even maybe the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, as we talked about. It'd be nice to have a mini... I don't want to call everything Endgame, but a mini team-up at the end. This actually leads me to a question I was going to ask at the end of the episode, but I'll ask Jose at the beginning.

So I'm thinking about this and we talked about it last week when robbie's guy the mutant hating captain america clearly america's cop america's narc as we were calling him like i feel like it's like x-men like mutants those superheroes a lot of them are humans do we have like a superheroes are the teen human and the mutants the X-Men? So it's funny you say that. So in the early, it's actually a great transition I was going to bring up.

There was, I want to say like 2015, 2016, there was, I really enjoyed it. It was divisive at the time, but I had a blast with it. It was called AVX, Avengers vs. X-Men. Oh, yeah. And the writing is very over the top. That was one of the first Marvel comics I ever bought. It's a lot of fun.

It's over and done with, and it really did kind of set the tone. This one we had the Phoenix Five or whatever like that, where the Phoenix Force came back and was splintered into five or six parts, and it was Cyclops, Sub-Mariner, who is a mutant, like sword, Colossus. Wasn't he one of the first mutants? Well, that's – Technically?

If you read House of M, allegedly Jesus was a mutant. Oh. So that's like a whole thing. That's like AD. That's like a whole thing, but there is a scene in that where Cyclops has kind of – the scene in X-Men 97 where I think it's Rogue and Captain America are talking and he takes a shield and like he eats it that it's not word for word but there is one of those interactions with captain

america and cyclops uh similar to like when cyclops is being interviewed by that newswoman he kind of says like you just because you look normal and this and that and it's like that happened in the comic books and the writing bums me out because captain america would not like he would understand that's right he would understand clem we had this conversation i was like come on i said chris evans captain america mcu captain america he's standing with the mutants for sure captain america should stay on you can't say that word robbie but at the same time it is very reminiscent of uh the dark knight returns super Superman, where Superman in any other avenue would side with justice. And that's like what Batman is dealing with.

But like when the president tells you to do something, Captain America is at first and foremost an American hero and a soldier and will listen to his person. He preaches. So it's both ways. He's just trying to play people. It is. It is. it's both ways like oh he's just trying to play people it is it is like captain america would all like also the writing that cyclops had in that issue is like this is right when cyclops kind of became like a little like angsty and very

very reminiscence of like anakin in episode three where it's like you can kind of see him brooding a lot yeah and then captain america came in was like i'm, no, Captain America wouldn't clearly side with Cyclops, but if the president's telling him what to do, what are you going to do? So I do remember this. It was 2012, AVX, and I remember that because I was always, as I've mentioned, just pretty much exclusively a Batman comics kid growing up. I would venture out into other DC stuff somewhere if Batman appeared,

but I was pretty much a Batman exclusive. Then I saw the Avengers movie after being an MCU fan through Phase 1, and this came out a month before the Avengers movie. Yeah. So I saw that movie, went to the comic book shop, and was like, oh, my God, they're fighting the X-Men. I like the X-Men, and I bought that. I remember being pretty confused by it up front. It is, but it's very difficult to jump into x-men without kind of reading a little bit before and i read nothing before that it's a lot yeah because there's like rachel summers all of a

sudden looks like jean gray but then jean gray also looks like madeline prior but then this person is the clone of this who traveled back in time but is actually this person's half sister it's it's a lot it's a lot it's very game of thr-esque if you haven't started from the beginning it's hard to focus on something and we talked about the Game of Thrones-esque of X-Men when we were at UFC 300 you said you don't even want them to do movies

for X-Men, you would rather it be a TV show 100,000% and I would not be opposed if they just kept it animated I mean at this point with how good X-Men 97 is, I agree. Someone tweeted, like, X-Men 97, an invincible show that we don't even need live-action superhero adaptations anymore. I was like, all right, pump the brakes.

Like, I do like the live-action movies. I mean, someone said, I saw someone I think on YouTube said it. They're like, maybe we just stick with the comics or the cartoons. And I'm like, they just can take so much more liberties and they can just advance stories so much easier and i mean honestly just kind of like brush through should be like oh this is what happened and you see cable cable like the whole cable story yeah i've read a million comic books cable i had no clue the fuck was going on i've watched a couple cartoons like oh i kind of get it now it's uh i think the i do agree with you that there does need to be live action movies

for the big I think it works perfectly for the Avengers because they can only Batman, Superman they're all individuals that can then come but X-Men

is just so complicated yeah so I and even a live action X-Men would be a tough TV show because how do you go from Genosha to all of a sudden

you're back at the X-Men and you're all of a sudden back with the Kree up in space. Jubilee and Sunspot at the mall. That episode was awesome. When they went back to the 8-bit. The Motendo, yeah. I cannot remember the guy that ran

that was controlling the game. It's going to drive me crazy. Is it Mojo? Mojo. Bingo. And there's awesome, awesome comic books with him. Oh, yeah? And every time he pops in, it's something like that. There was one where he made all the X-Men like kids,

and he threw them into something. Like Muppet Baby versions? 100%. Or that episode of Justice League when they all turn to kids. I don't remember that. I think it's Justice League Unlimited or whatever. People want that to come back now, too.ames gunn actually had a good response to that though he was like i think x-men 97 is so great because it's not trying to be something you know

just because of a trend yeah he's like if i brought back justice league just because x-men 97 is great like i don't know if that translates and if anyone's watching crisis on Infinite Earth, which is like the DC's current thing, it's not great. But they had a little sneak preview of Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy. It's going to be their last time together, I think, right? Last thing they recorded.

The animation looks like the original Batman the Animated Series 2. People were excited they didn't go with the new Batman Adventures designs because they usually do nowadays. And I just wish the movie was better. Yeah. What do you think about this, X-Men?

They do a TV show, and it's like high quality. I know you haven't seen The Boys yet, but it's something that people like. They do it good, please God. And then every four years or so, we have an X-Men movie. I like a tentpole movie. We're all coming together. And we almost know what comics it's going to take off of.

And that's kind of like the event, and then we roll back. The X-Men could pull that off, for sure. It would be very reminiscent of, like, if they did a lot of, like, the Dark Phoenix Saga had, like, so much stuff going into it. And then the singular issue where Jean Grey dies in the Dark Phoenix Saga is one of the greatest marvel comic books of all time like single floppy yeah that could be a movie just leading up to that or the days of future past comic book same thing like have all these storylines converge into one movie that would be that would be perfect i think that's how you handle it just fix the mcu i think we i was gonna say knock on wood kind of what they're doing with star wars right now like if you took star wars's current plan with the mandalorian

ahsoka what if you factioned off a couple members of the x-men do not one show but maybe a couple shows focusing on them and then you do that possible heir to the empire mandalorian and grogu whatever in theaters and it kind of makes sense like you think of the x-men comic books you have the little faces on top. Like, all right, this episode, we're getting Storm and Nightcrawler. It doesn't work with a movie. You kind of have to have those guys or else their presence. Dude, with the reviews and the ratings of 97,

I wouldn't be surprised if after season two, like, they got a movie in theaters like Spider-Verse level. I would have hated. It's also, what is Deadpool going to be? Does it tie in? It could be the end game for the Fox franchises in general. I guess that could be.

They do have a line in this episode where they were like, another universe where Wolverine is the last X-Men surviving. I was like, pretty sure they're doing that in Deadpool and Wolverine. Pretty sure he's roasting that movie a little bit. Let's get into this episode. It begins with a cool conversation between Scott and Gene talking about their son. Gene, obviously not like Gene's son, but kind of she's the mom that stepped up.

And Cable was separated from Bishop seemingly as soon as they went into the time stream. Something like that. Boom, right off they went away. Scott's like, ah, fuck, I didn't ask Professor X how to be a good dad, and I sent my son off to a better future. He had to run back and figure that out. Then Bastion, on the other end, got funding for his Prime Sentinel program,

post-Dinocia and Cable's timeline. And Prime Sentinels can reproduce. Cable's future involves, like, mutant slaves, utopia for humans. Bastion. We don't know a lot about Bastion. What are your thoughts on the character? Do you like him?

I really, yes, because he's always a thorn in the side that doesn't go away, but he's not overly used. And so when he shows up, you know shit's about to go down. He is a great, He's not Magneto. He's not Doctor Doom. He's not any... Sinister apocalypse. All the guys you always hear about.

But he is like... He is a great Loki-level villain. There you go. Thanos would be another level, and he is a fantastic transitional villain. And the Sentinel project is an awesome way to kick off like i so i was and it's a bummer because we talked about this before well i'm like i can't watch marvel shows with my girlfriend yep you're like so like when they cut to this guy in the dark

i'm like oh it's bastion she's like come on but they don't tell you it's just a guy in the dark she's like well all right so if you like you it's just a guy in the dark and she's like well all right so if you like i don't know how much you've been following you know outside of the x-men or i mean you're sick brain you might know it all but they he's been in every episode yeah in the background yeah like there's a picture where he's cut off and they've had him they've even had stuff did you see the um intro the madeline prior when she was in the episode, we didn't know. Her hair wasn't in a ponytail. I know.

And then when they replaced it with Jean, Jean had the ponytail. It's like, they have the little things. It's like that. Is it true? Because I rewatched it, and it sort of looks like before the Genosha bombing, there's the outline of the Watcher in the sky. Yeah. Yes.

That is awesome. He's there for all, like, the big universe events. I like that they mentioned absolute points, kind of, too. Beast started talking about that in kind of like a Nexus event type thing. Mentioned Carmitage. Yep. Said Strange, which is like in a wink-wink way, which is nice. It'd be cool to see him in a 90s.

Was he in any of the 90s cartoons? Yeah, I think he was in, I don't remember what show he was in, but he definitely, he didn't have his, he might have had his own show. He had a movie for sure, but it was like a mid-2000s movie. Yeah, I would like to see him mix it up with the X-Men. That would be cool. And Cable thinks Bastion is like basically Master Mold. He's like made from Master Mold in some way.

I can't remember, it's Master Mold and Nimrod. And Nimrod, yeah. Essences of those two, and then he kind of popped out. And what do you think about Nimrod? Because we were talking about him last week. He's great. Funny name. You can't have Bastion without him,

and he is very funny. Okay. Again, he's like a second-tier villain, but he is a great, he can carry like a three, four-issue arc. Yeah. And then once you're done, you can go into like the big Magneto stuff.

And is this, I know we're talking about Operation Zero Tolerance and stuff. That's all pulled directly from comics, right? And is Bastion in the comics the leader of that in that way? That I don't quite remember, but he's obviously heavily involved. I don't know if he's the ringleader, but he's very heavily involved. And skipping ahead in the episode, but is Doom and Zemo, are they involved in the comics too? Because that was a cool surprise to see them so when the sentinels i mean pretty much any time there's like a big

sentinel thing it kind of takes over i don't know if it's it's specifically this operation i can't quite remember but there are several issues where the sentinels will go out into the world and you'll you will get these cameos of like... Because mutants live in Latveria. Yeah. I can vividly... There are panels I know of Sentinels in Latveria and Doom being like,

go away. This is happening now, I guess, yeah. No mutants here. When the X-Men are watching the footage of Xavier on Chiar and they're like, look, he faked his death for mutant sympathy and look, the guy who killed him, look, he faked his death for mutant sympathy and look, the guy who killed him,

you know, supposedly is turned up dead. What do you think the X-Men are thinking? Because we didn't really get to see, like, they didn't have a conversation about that in the moment,

but are they like, what the fuck, Charles? Did you abandon us or do they understand? All right, you went off at the She-R where they saved your life and stuff.

I'm telling you, Bob. We've been saying it. When we rewatched, what was it, First Class, and I'm like, yo, Professor X kind of like, it was kind of fucked up. It's kind of weird where he's like, oh, you have mutation. You have like hazel eyes or something.

He's using it as a pickup line. And we're like, does he use his mind power as like a fucking, you know, to like sway these girls? And then I'm like, Professor X might be kind of creepy. I think these X-Men know him and they're like, he sold us out for a bunch of bird pussy.

Alien bird pussy at that. So I think they kind of like, they know, they're not surprised. That's what Charles does. He's kind of a dog like that. Everyone has their like vice. He is kind of a dog.

And that's Charles' vice. Is he kind of a dog in the comics? He's bound to, what is it, Lelandra or whatever. His soul is bound to her forever oh okay is that wow he's one of those guys like i'm not taking the ring off the dark phoenix the death of the the dark phoenix saga when jean gray dies um it starts with the x-men being teleported to that

ship and leandre like pleads with him like we have to kill jean gray or she's because she's going to be the Phoenix. And he's like, but my love, this and that. And it's a whole thing. And he's kind of a freak. We learned last episode. We will bark later. We'll get the bark later.

When he abandoned. He left the X-Men without telling them. They think he's dead, but he's not. It's not the first time he's bailed on the X-Men. It leads directly into House of M. That's a weird trait to have. To's bailed on the X-Men. It leads directly into House of M. Oh, shit. That is, that's a weird trait to have, to just Irish exit on the X-Men.

You can't have the X-Men, it's X-Men. Yeah, yeah. It's Xavier's men. It's named after you, dude. You gotta change the letters, man. They're gonna have to change the letters. They're really easy. Some of Sunspot's parents, again, they suck. They suck.

They're the worst. They're not good. We get more of them later though this was just a quick check-in to set up the gala later um nightcrawler this guy nightcrawler oh dude i was so hyped for there are so it is similar to so nightcrawler with this you'll like you'll both like this reference nightcrawler with the swords happens frequently in the comic books, but not every issue. It is the equivalent of Kurt Angle

taking the straps off. It's so like, remember when Kurt Angle put it back on just to take it off? It's the same thing. So when the swords fell, I went like, he's doing the thing and then

everyone my girl was like whatever but that happens often and there is very fun issues of when they go to the danger room and they play they like role play so like all of a sudden kurt wants to be a pirate and there's like a whole episode, issue of the X-Men just doing pirate things, because he has his swords. I got very excited. We love that he's a sword guy. That was the first thing we said about him when they brought him into the actual show. I'm a sword guy.

Do you know that? Shout out to Sam Lauderdale, he bought me the, I found it on Etsy, it was the Thundercat sword and i want this so bad and just one day he just vandal me money he's like buy that sword i was like dude no no he's like i'm not taking it back i'm like well fuck i'm basically so i have a sword in my garage and now i want more swords i want now i see nightcrawler has three swords because

and i'm like i need to have it's like a i'm a snake guy some people are snake guys i'm a sword guy that's just how it is him motherfucker like i was it was funny because i was on like reddit and all the people like holy shit it happened holy shit yeah i'm like i can't look at this and then after i watch it i'm like and every single person was just freaking out about the sword i didn't realize it was a thing like that i was very excited and beyond just being a badass he's written very well in this show in this scene specifically he's like humanizing madeline and kind of also Cable in Jean Grey's mind. Where he's telling her, blood is blood. Family is a choice.

Let go of the past. Simply be family. Talks about being given up by Mystique. Little lore there and stuff. I love Kurt Wagner. I said it. He's cooking. He just cooked every episode.

He cooked at the funeral. He had every fucking gambit, gambling pun just ready to go. And this one he said, like, memories are echoes with emotion or something like that. And I was like, ooh! Spitting. Let it be known, Kurt. And that's why in the movie, I'm telling you, there's a scene when we meet Nightcrawler. There was a scene where, if you watch it again, Storm and Jean Grey play by two stunning...

They're just rubbing him. They're not putting paint on him. And I'd be like, I don't blame you. The guy just has fucking... He's smooth. The wrists, as the kids say. Nightcrawler is routinely one of the better written characters. I believe that.

He's probably, if you're a comic book writer, one of the more fun characters to write for. You don't have to make it sound so every day he has that over-the-top shakespearean dialogue a lot of the time and marvel marvel writers for whatever reason write foreign heroes and villains exceptionally well like banshee nightcrawler magneto craven theven the Hunter regardless of IV they're using Zemo, Doom I feel like they get to flex their non-American voices in their head

and make it over the top You got that a little in Genosha too where you had the Irish bro come out I was like, oh this is cool you're getting mutants literally from all over the world and you don't see that you don't realize you don't see that That's why it was the giant size X-men that introduced wolverine to begin with um was on krakow i

believe which was the living islands and they found mutants from all different that's where you found banshee from ireland wolverine from canada sunfire from japan uh apache from like the the plains of america storm from Africa. So you've got every... It was the X-Men, but every hero was from a different country. And they all teamed up to save the day. It's like the United Nations of X-Men. Love that. We also got a shout-out to Nightcrawler because he was always awesome in the video games.

I always loved him in Nightcrawler. A Banff. He was... Banff and Thwip and Snikt are the three best, I don't know what, like sound? Onomatopoeia? Onomatopoeia, yeah. Those are the three best in all of comic book history. Yeah.

I mean, what else could even be up there? Kapow. Yeah, good, like a punch, yeah. But those three, when you see BAMF, Nightcrawler, Snikt, Wolverine, Thwip, Spider-Man. Immediately, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr. Sinister's talking to Dr. Cooper, is it? Something like that.

Blonde woman? Yeah, whatever. You know what? I read a bunch of people who were like, what's her name again? And it's like, she's important. I think I like her. We're going to call her Dr. Cooper if that's not her name. Is she good?

Is she bad? Yeah, we're just going to call her Dr. Cooper. No, we'll call her Mrs. Cooper. Well, she's going to Dr. Cooper. I'm thinking, you know, like, hanging with Mr. Cooper. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll go Dr. Cooper. No, we'll call her Mrs. Cooper. Well, she's going to Dr. Cooper. I'm thinking, you know, like, hanging with Mr. Cooper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll go Dr. Cooper.

She's the one that said Magneto was right. Yes. She does the whole amazing speech at the end. But Mr. Sinister tells her he's using Bastion. He's like, they've got Magneto tied up still. And they're in a, I'm using you off. Yes. Like, I'm using you.

No, I'm using you. So they don't know who's using who. Mr. Sinister, to me, based on everything we've seen in this season, definitely feels like he's the one being used. Yes, but it did feel weird having Mr. Sinister

feel like the guy reporting. He was the assistant to the regional manager. You think he was the guy. You're like, oh, Bastion's the manager? Michael Scott's like, Mr. Sinister's gonna pull Sinister's shit. Look up what Sinister means. It means bad. He's Mr. Bad. Well, if you're like oh bastion's the manager he's michael scott's like mr sinister is gonna pull sinister shit well look up what sinister means it means bad mr bad well if you're reading the comic right now mr sinister is most certainly not in charge oh well you told us that where you know he only represented one of four right yeah that's some gnarly shitty now it's even more one of them is a mutant.

It's like a whole thing. We'll get into that after the episode. I have a question about the modern X-Men stuff after the episode. The reporter, Miss Tilby, comes to visit. Beast is doing his research on how many Sentinels could be out there, the Prime Sentinels. Summer's family goes to visit

Bastion's family home. His mom is there, just sitting there, welcomes him with open arms. She's like, ah, they told me you would be here tomorrow. And she kind of seems like a nice lady at first. I thought, I got big time Ray Finkel's mom, Mace Ventura. Real sports nut, huh?

Like real Sentinels nut, huh? Like you stuff Sentinels everywhere, robots and shit. And then I found out very quickly, much more dangerous. The house, it was dark enough where you're like, this just can't be going in a good position. It reminded me of, did you guys watch Harry Potter much? Oh, yeah. I saw the movies.

When they go to, I don't remember the town, but when they go find Dumbledore's house and his brother is there. And he's just like, what are you doing here? And it's, like, very clearly very clearly like dark and foggy. Bad night is coming. Giving off bad vibes. Like if it was a video game, there would be a lot of health potions

before entering that because you know stuff is happening. And Jean can see if it was a video game, she would like press X to see memory on this painting.

Sure. She sees like the memories of Bastion through his drawings and some of them are like fucked up sentinel drawings and stuff troubled kid obviously one of these scenes was an homage to man of steel it was almost shot for shot like um clark hearing voices in his head running into the closet and then his mom being like you're my son i love you um his father nimrod they point that out and at his his lair, they cut back.

He mentions to Dr. Doom and Zemo here, he's like, Genosha wasn't genocide. It's time management. He's like, it's going to happen. Zero tolerance, you know. I'm just speeding things up. He's like, ah, it's the same thing with the environment. They, like, threw that in there. He's like, I don't believe in global warming either.

It was the ozone line. He's like, ozone stuff in the news. And I'm like, that was everywhere in the. He's like, I don't believe in global warming either. It was the ozone line. He's like, the ozone stuff in the news. And I'm like, that was everywhere in the 90s. Al Gore, right? That was like that era. And I'm like, I actually, I think someone said recently, the ozone's fine now. It's like, oh, we fixed the ozone. Oh, we fixed it?

The entire world is fucked, but like the ozone's good. So that's good. But yeah, the Bastion's mom, quickly, she turns into a crazy sentinel. Because she shows him the crazy sentinel artwork. She's like, oh, this was the best drawing ever. Bunch of sentinels and dead people. Murdering mutants. That was when he was drawing people with X's over their eyes as a kid.

But yeah, she turns into a sentinel. The whole town turns into a sentinel. This is one of those things that would be very hard to do in live action. We were talking about that last week when we saw the first, like, human sentinel. This is a scene where I wasn't, like, when it happened, I'm like, I don't remember if this happens in the comic book. Yeah. So I was like, I'm here for it. Like, I was pleasantly surprised.

They begin to activate all over the world. Reporter Tilby, who's in the room with Beast, also a human sentinel. We get a classic, oh my stars and garters from this classic Beast line. When all the dots are turning on. All the dots and shit. And he's like, oh fuck,

there's way more of these than anticipated. And this is a good version. I bring this up every episode, but I'm saying it in a good way. This is what I imagine it's like in Secret Invasion. It's like,

how many of these how many people that we think are friends are really over? And then immediately just so many people. He's swoon swooning oh man it brings me back to just a golden era of marvel right there and then you go into like big action sequence with the sentinels after all the x-men the x-jet takes off we see juggernaut for a second um the sentinels gather

outside the x-mansion they start to burn it down. Wolverine starts to get one of his big moments of not only the episode but the season. He starts slicing the dice, and he's brought up in the sky. Then he's dropped back down. They attempt to go after Rogue. Wolverine and Nightcrawler, one of the coolest tag teams of all time here. It's like RVD and Kane or something. Nine Blades. Yeah, Nine Blades.

That was good. He's like, I got six reasons, bub. He's like. Yeah, Nine Blades. That was good. He's like, I got six reasons, bub. He's like, no, you have nine. That was awesome. And Wolverine enters that scene in the sky. Because we haven't had a real Wolverine moment. And I put it, it was the ECW. Holy shit.

Holy shit. He's all ripped up. His suit's ripped up and shit. I rewound it to rewatch that. It was awesome. I was like awesome this is great also seeing wolverine get bamfed from his perspective that was so cool i wrote down that was what i felt like on the guardians of the galaxy ride at disney when i was throwing up i

was like i don't know what's happening i don't know where i'm gonna end up at the end of this thing we even got like the little wolverine's like i gotta talk to hank about his taste of women yeah yeah and then he's just like, slicing and dicing human beings. I know they are sentinels as well. That was kind of like, what the fuck is going on? True, because Bastion, when he explains it, he's like, yeah, I take the humans. I turn them into sentinels. I send them out there.

They have no memory of being here. So, like, innocent humans kind of? True, yeah. They're regrown. Wolverine has. I'm a big fan of heroes. One of my favorite tropes is heroes not holding back for epic moments.

When they show off their power, what they're capable of. No one's better at it. When Superman doesn't hold back and when Spider-Man doesn't hold back are two of the best things in comic books. There are multiple scenes in the comics when Wolverine doesn't hold back, and it is gnarly.

I thought they did that very well with Spider-Man in No Way Home, at the end with Goblin. Yeah. When the Peters have to stop him because he's not holding back anymore. Or when he fights the Kingpin in After Civil War, the first Civil War comic, when Kingpin, like, there's like a what-if where where like, what if Kingpin doesn't kills Mary Jane instead of

Aunt May. And Kingpin is like fights Peter Parker. And Peter's like I've been holding back in just one punches. And kills him. Wow. In the heart. And Kingpin like it cuts to him and Kingpin is like oh damn.

I love that. Back to sunspot and jubilee weakest part of the episode for sure for sure yeah but i do like sunspot the character and i was glad we got we i i'm glad when he can that we could see him fly i was gonna say he can fly jubilee's like everyone can fly but us and he he's like, I got some bad news for you. I could also fly here. And the Summer family have to drive a Porsche out of the Blackbird, which is crazy. Cable's like, you have a Porsche? He's like, I think mad that he's the son to rich parents or something.

Yeah, he's probably like, what the fuck? I could have had a Porsche. I could have been in a Porsche family. So I was fighting for my life and the dystopian future. I actually put, like, I can't believe there's not a sponsorship. And then the next line was, it's a Porsche. I'm like, you fuckers always have to cover. And they plow through that cave.

He has a good line about like something I learned about the time travel. When you can't go back, you got to go forward. I felt, you know what it felt like? What's the name of the, we are the, no, it's meet the Millers. That is meet the Mitch that is Meet the Mitchells Meet the Mitchells yeah good movie that was a really good

that was a fun movie it's really good is that the animated one yeah it's made by a lot of the Spider-Verse team so it's got a similar like 2D

3D kind of painted feel really underrated Jean Grey coming through too with like it was like okay the

the two guys are doing their things with their eyes and then Jean just you know telepathy just moves him. I liked that Cyclops just shot her a look like, take the wheel, babe.

Yeah, exactly. Went out off the top. Our boy Cyclops, he's getting laid. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in some deep doo-doo. A lot of it his doing. This is when, like, we're going to have another baby. Another baby, another baby.

Cable's going to have a half-sister, whatever the fuck kind of crazy shit that you want. Timeline, yeah. Quarter-sister, three-quarters-sister. There is a Rachel Sonners. Is that,

so is that their daughter? That I don't remember. I, see, alright, now it's all coming back to me. It's so complicated. I know the Summer,

what's up with the fucking Summer's family tree? Here's what I'll say. Summer's family tree is like, it is so complicated. There's like another Cable. I think there's like a Nate Summers or something that is like out'll say Summers family tree is like there's like another cable I think there's like a Nate Summers

or something that is like out there I tweeted it the other day and there's it's that character Joseph I was telling

you guys about we brought him up on we brought your tweet up on the episode that's the clone thing but there is a very meta hilarious panel

where I think it's Psylocke or something or it could have been Rogue where it cuts to Joseph on the jet and he's like so cable is cyclops's son with madeline prior who is a clone of gene gray and then he's like he's trying to do it yeah and then he goes did i get that right and the road goes you forgot about his half sister he's like what like so i tweeted it the other day and it's very it's very meta and very great that sums up every and i'm glad you guys are confused by it all yeah because this is how it was in the 90s we were confused about that

and we were very confused about morph's powers last week when he turned into quicksilver we were like wait can he just turn into any superhero he wants and have their powers? Sort of. It's just like a dumbed down. We read a Reddit post on the X-Men 97 Reddit Clem sent me and I was like, alright, I understand a little bit. Just don't think too hard. Because a lot of people are like we are. They're like, what the fuck? And everyone's like, just don't worry about it. He can do a couple powers.

Yeah, like Quicksilver was like right in his window. That's a good one. He can nail. It's like an impression. Like he could really do that. Like we got the Jug. When he turned into the Juggernaut, I was very excited. that's a good one he could nail it's like an impression like he could really do that like like we got the jug when he turned into the juggernaut i was very excited that was a good one talk about a messed up family tree the juggernaut as well yeah juggernaut something we realized very recently the fact that i know the magneto helmet being like uh charles can't reach him was originally made for Juggernaut. Yes.

I didn't realize that was like not the consensus main story in the comics until it was in the movie in 2000. The Juggernaut helmet. That Magneto's helmet blocked Charles. Which seems crazy to me because I said to Clem like the second they introduced that, what a no-brainer. 100%. That's how it should be. The Juggernaut's also not a mutant. People get that wrong.

Yeah, that's all. He's just jacked, right? No, well, he is a normal human that found a ruby in the jungle, and there is a demon in, I think it's Sidorak, honestly, because if you guys watched the Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness, and I think it's America going, fighting, but there's the monster that grabs her with the things yes and dr strange has used it when he was holding thanos like the red oh yeah when he those are called the bands of sidorak who is one of the people

claiming to be satan in the in the marvel unit in the marvel comic book universe. And I think it's Sidorak. If anyone's watching, you can correct me. Sidorak gives Juggernaut his powers, where he is the unstoppable force. But the caveat is he's evil. Because he's gone good and his powers have been halved. And then I

think in World War Hulk, when Hulk comes back to take over Earth and he's never been stronger juggernaut is a good guy and is not strong enough to fight the whole fucks him up because he's like have and so he has a conversation with sidorak he's like all basically i'll go back to being evil and stuff if you give me my strength to fight the hulk and he almost beats the hulk oh juggernaut and the hulk juggernaut can fight the Hulk without his armor. For sure. Juggernaut is a bad dude.

But it would be like if you and me found a crystal in the Amazon and then turned into the Juggernaut. People would accuse us of being on steroids. A little bit. If you turned six. They'd have to add that to the Bane substances list. Definitely. He's an awesome villain. All right.

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Down and they're like they were trying to kill us and the Sentinels Like we weren't trying to kill them That is the lamest part The mom immediately is like oh then Yeah listen to them sweetie They put fucking like cuffs around their necks And take them out in handcuffs. But good guys are going to put cuffs around their necks.

Yeah, all right, let's see. Your son was blown through glass. Yeah. Like, he's, like, fucked up from battle. He's like, they're trying to kill me. And she's like, you look fine. Rub some dirt on it. It was kind of, like, scary.

A lot of people make this point, like, the fucked up shit in the real world. And then, like, they said, like, when there's someone like this, they meet it with apathy or whatever. It's like, we're going to host a gala. We're going to have like, you know, a hundred dollar plates of food. We'll sell some like rubber bands,

like Lance arms. Yeah. Yeah. We'll raise money. They say Genosha, Genosha relief. So in the comic books, uh,

Cassandra, no, is the one that destroys Genosha. Oh, so I knew that only after the Genosha episode because when we saw the Watcher in the sky, some people were like, it was Cassandra Nova. I was like, why would she be floating in the sky?

Like, her essence be floating in the sky like that. It wouldn't make sense. It would be, but I hope she pops in. Are you going to watch Deadpool? Yeah. Because you know she's in there? Yeah. So I'll buy it.

I'll watch it because I'm not the biggest Deadpool fan. I'm a big Wolverine fan, and a lot of the things they're going to do in that movie, I liked in the comic books. I mean, just seeing Wolverine in the yellow. Yeah, that's like, honestly. Also, I've seen every X-Men movie. Like, the X-Men live action movies.

Do you like them? I love X2. X2's awesome. We talked about that on our weekend. And I love First Class, and I love Days of Future Past. Then we're pretty aligned with our X-Men. Yeah, we didn't even watch the last two. Phoenix and Apocalypse.

Apocalypse. The scene in the forest with Magneto and Apocalypse, that scene is incredible. Pretty much the rest of the movie. But that's because those are two great actors. Oh, yeah, Fassbender is amazing as Matt Nadeau. Who played James McAvoy as Professor X? Who played Apocalypse?

Oscar Isaac. Three just like juggernauts of an acting trio right there. Also, somebody said it was rumored that a variant of Juggernaut will be in Deadpool and Wolverine. I could see it being the one from Deadpool 2.

I would imagine. Because, yeah, apparently the X3 guy said no. He said the suit was too much of a hassle. And then the more we thought about it, we were like, the guy's 60. He just doesn't want to get into Juggernaut shape or can't get into Juggernaut shape, which would be understandable. I hope it's the— Charles! Goddamn Charles! I need that Juggernaut shape or can't get into juggernaut shape which would be understandable i hope it's the charles i need that juggernaut variant and deadpool would do that yeah yeah it's like in um in the ninja turtles movie when they use the the he-man what's up in the four night blondes version by the way we were talking about that when people talked about mutant mayhem

initially i feel like it was talked about as if it was kind of a flop yeah that it didn't like perform it was like the fourth most profitable movie of 2023 really it made a net of 240 million dollars that's and no one knew it was out everyone i talked to man did you see it it's awesome it's like incredible it's the the most recent yeah it's like it looks like uh it's like kind of spider versi one? Yeah. It looks like... It's like kind of Spider-versy. Yeah, but the only thing I know about it is all the kids that played the Ninja Turtles all recorded their lines in the same room together. And they're all kids.

The rest of the cast is like pretty famous. Like huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Post Malone, Seth Rogen, Paul Rudd, Jackie Chan. Those kids are just unknowns. They were awesome. Yeah, I just, because they filmed Batman Animated Series. All the actors were in the same room.

That's how they do Invincible as well. And it does so well. And it's like, it's the way kids would act if they were like, how do New Yorkers act if I just watch on the internet kind of stuff. It's awesome. Check that out for sure. The soundtrack is a 10. Yeah. Oh, that's what I heard.

All 90s hip hop. And what was the other movie? Mitchell's vs. The Machines. That's what it was. Mitchell's vs. The soundtrack is a 10. Yeah. Oh, that's what I heard too. All 90s hip hop. And what was the other movie? Mitchell's vs. The Machines. That's what it was. Mitchell's vs. The Machines. I'll watch both of those next week. Honestly, they're both awesome. Delightful movies.

Perfect too. Summers vs. The Machines. That's basically what that little scene is. Yeah. Summers is going to fuck some shit up. That's very funny. That's very funny. So, Bastion goes towards the end of the episode.

He oversees the burnt down X mansion. He's told Magneto is freed. He doesn't even really care. He tells Cooper he was born that way when she calls him a monster. Shout out Lady Gaga. I'm going to do the meme. I'm just going to come out and say it. Bastion is kind of a dick. He's just a dick.

He's a dick. He is a supervillain hellbent on genocide. He's a dick. He's a dick. Cooper gives the speech on Genosha and what she saw on Genosha and Magneto was right. She drops that in his face. That was a hell of a speech.

Magneto was right. That sentence, that line was really big in the Grant Morrison X-Men one. Isn't that sort of where they took the thanos was right from sort of yeah i mean maybe i mean that that would make sense but the i think it's kid omega quentin quinn or whatever his name is is so the grant morrison one was like early 2000s and it's honestly one of my, after Claremont run, it's probably my favorite run. I feel like a lot of people, Grant Morrison's legendary, obviously, but a lot of people consider those two the best, like, X-Riders, right? X-Riders. Well, I mean, Stanley and Jack Kirby.

Of course, yeah. They're the GOATs. Like, Jack Kirby is the definitive GOAT of Marvel. Everything. But I, like, the Grant Morrison, I also i'm a massive frank quietly fan the the artist that did the first few anything he does i'm just injected into my body um where was i going with this we were oh magneto was right so um kid omega was this they did a really good job of highlighting students. And this is when Emma Frost was helping run the X-Men. And she had, like, a class of, like, telepaths.

Like, she taught the psychic telepath. And Quentin Quinn, I think was his name, was, like, this nerdy dork who, I can't remember remember what happened but then basically just turned into like a neo-nazi oh jesus and like but like he started wearing a shirt to school that said magneto was right and like shaved his head to like look basically look like a nazi and had like his bully gang of like ex-students it was actually it's great it's a great line so i was gonna have the hashtag for the episode be magneto was right it's great. It's a great line. So, I was going to have the hashtag for the episode be Magneto was right. I'm starting to feel like

if we're associating with that guy, you can't do that. I don't know if we can do that. Especially, my mom's basement, staunch anti-Nazi podcast. Yes.

Staunch. Yes. The market goes without saying. We are so anti-Nazi. Indiana Jones were like, kick their asses and whip those motherfuckers.

Because it was, it was that, see, that's why it made Graham Morrison so great. Because obviously Magneto survived the Holocaust. And then Quentin Quinn basically became like, he thought Magneto was right, but like took it to the extreme. And Magneto would be like, hey man, like, chill out, dude. They focused on the number two, which I didn't realize they didn't do at all. Yeah, they really focused on it. And she, like, you could see Cooper's face was like, ah, what am I doing here? Yeah.

Yeah, and they said, like, was it her who said, like, the craziest thing was, like, no one was surprised. Yeah. Again, it's like a lot of real world shit coming into it. And you're like, man, there is some fucked up stuff. Also, speaking of those Nazis who we hate, when fucking Sinister is like, oh, I knew Manny, Dr. Joe's a man. Oh, isn't that crazy? He's a little Nazi pup. In real life.

Yeah. And it's like crazy that like, and it's a cool thing about Sinister is he does have like all this experience and has seen history play out. Huge backstory, yeah. And it's like, and then just fucking just, Nazi pup just fucking takes him away. It's like, oh dude, the X-Men are so good. Magneto in his undies,

he's in his Dr. Manhattan jockstrap, basically. He goes and goes to like the top of the world, sends shockwaves through the world, everything's powering down. This is where we see Spider-Man, Silver Samurai, Omega Red, and then Professor X returns home in front of Wolverine.

And Morph hits a, to me, my X-Men. Love that. And there's a great meme because it's like Beast and Gene and I think Cyclops and Storm. Someone's like, he just called the smart X-Men. He's even wearing glasses to make him look extra smart. I love that. And he says, I hope I'm not too late. And it's like, you're pretty fucking close to being too late, Charles.

If you didn't go anywhere, we could have avoided this. You were pretty fucking close to being too late. But a great ending to the episode and a great, like, setting up the next two parts. We've got everyone together again. We've got Charles. Storm is going to come back because he called her. I wouldn't be surprised if she's just back by episode or part two. Sets up a fucking amazing next two finales.

Hopefully we just got to just put her back in. She she did one line. She gets to explain everything that happened. Giant Bird was fucking with me. That's the the adversary. Yeah. Yeah. A very underutilized villain.

Always partnered with Forge. Forge is the one. Oh, wow. That is. Oh, wow. You accessed the main screen. So I believe this is all off the top of my head. Forge is in Vietnam.

And he comes from, like, I don't know if it's a line. He has, like, some voodoo thing in his, like, lineage. I like that about him. That's a cool superhero. Like, you don't have a lot of voodoo superheroes. Well like i like that about him that's a cool superhero like you don't have a lot of voodoo superheroes and he well forge can like create anything yeah but he had like his ancestry has some sort of mystic type thing and he summons the adversary i can't remember why but for the reason the adversary is on earth is directly because fort summited and just never went back and there is a great comic because there was a it's right before avx actually called fear itself and there's

a great i think it's journey into mystery like it's a single issue but it's issue like 600 something of mephisto goes to a bar and is like explaining to this bartender like what hell really is and it shows there is a throne in hell that satan can claim but mephisto is not the real satan and it shows all of the like demons people claiming it's basically the avengers but the demon avengers demons sounds fucking not dark avengers but like if you took every demonic villain and put them in a room and they're all arguing why they're the top

yeah so had like Sidorak and the adversary and Mephisto and Surtur and Dormammu and everything like all arguing

it's great but all those names are powerful and the adversary was in the room with them he's getting the fucking invite that's all you need to know but he didn't look like that in the comic book.

I've seen, like, yeah, very different look in the comics and stuff. I really liked it. Has the adversary ever met Khonshu? Because that's what I said when I saw the adversary. I was like, these fucking birds got to meet. I don't think so. I'd like to see that in whatever something. Wow, that's an excellent question that I don't know the answer to.

That would be pretty cool. Also, how do you feel? You mentioned the answer to. That would be pretty cool. Also, how do you feel, you mentioned the Dark Avengers, how do you feel about this rumor that Thunderbolts, the MCU movie Thunderbolts, has been renamed Thunderbolts Asterix, and they're like, we'll address that after the movie. The rumor is about that being a codename for them being the Dark Avengers. So like the Norman Osborn Dark Avengers? I don't know. You tell me.

I mean, that was a really, the Sentry is going to be involved in stuff, right? That's the huge rumor. It was originally the Union, and then he dropped out. I don't know if they've recasted it yet. There was rumors about Henry Cavill in that role. But the team is like Yelena, John Walker, Winter Soldier. Yeah. So the Thunderbolts.

Taskmaster. So it's interesting because the Thunderbolts in the comic book were like their own. That's like the Suicide Squad of the Marvel comic books. And then after the Avengers and Norm, after Secret Invasion, when they made Norman Osborn in charge of the Avengers, he put together his own Avengers team. And it was the Thunderbolts in new costumes. Interesting. So Venom became Spider-Man. Bullseye became Hawkeye.

I think Moonstone, who's a super villainous, became Captain Marvel. Sentry stayed. Ares, who is not anywhere near the MCU, basically just took... Because Ares is Thor, Hercules. He is the god of war. But he came to Earth to be a superhero.

And he joins them, and it was a lot of fun. Because they invaded Asgard. I hate to admit it, Bob. We're watching X-Men right now. It's like when you're nice and warm in the house, and it's January. Hearing about Thunderbolts, that's when it's like, I've got to go outside.

I'm going to have to sit in a cold car as the engine gets warm that's what it's thinking like dealing with Marvel project not everyone not everyone Deadpool was is gonna be hopefully awesome but like that the Captain America movie it's just the Thunderbolt character it's like it's such a weird IP to kind of spearhead of phase it's especially when it feels like they're trying to do suicide squad with it i don't i don't get it and they don't have the level of villain if they had done this in the end game era i think they could have pulled it off with those villains projects that sucked and some of the villains kind of sucked some of them but that being said if you have yelena and buckucky as like, and you're really leaning on them, and Hopper from Stranger Things, what's his name?

Yes. Captain Russia. Yeah. We're basically doing LeBron and Mo Williams and like one other guy. Like, if you've got them to lead it, and then John Walker just being your fucking wild card, he might slice somebody's head off with a shield. We go rated R. Yeah.

Well, there's rumors about them going rated R with it. Is there? Okay. There are rumors about that. I might be in. I'm pending in. Wyatt Russell, who plays John Walker, said his quote about the movie. They were like, oh, like, how do you feel about the Thunderbolts?

And he said, I think it's time to fucking make a good Marvel movie. So I think he's like getting out there and being like. Jose's like, I'm not going to watch it. I'll wait for it to hit Disney+. Oh, by the way, I saw someone mentioned to watch it. I'll wait for it to hit Disney+. Oh, by the way, I saw someone mentioned to me, Madam Web is about to hit Netflix.

Oh, definitely. I'll be there day one. Oh, day one. I said, I'll ban, you know,

I'll boycott the Sony movies and theaters because I think they're ruining a bunch of great IP. Same thing with Craven, which just got delayed. Supposed to be August. They pushed it to December. It's going to stink. Don't get your hopes up about it. When it hits Netflix though. Oh my God, I'll be there.

Craven's Last Hunt would be a fantastic TV show. Well, it pisses me off because I feel like the MCU, I know a little bit about Craven's Last Hunt. The MCU Peter Parker right now seems like he's in a decent position for them to go forward with that where he's kind of more grounded New York. Maybe. But they can't do it, because Sony's ruining it. But what makes Kraven's Last Hunt so great is Peter Parker was married to Mary Jane during it.

So when Peter Parker disappears for a week, she's like, where are you? And then she sees Spider-Man, and she's like, oh, what's up, Peter? And then, because for those of you who don't know, I don't know if you guys read it, but Kraven, quote, unquote, kills Spider-Man and buries him alive. But, like, basically tranquilizes him so he's dead for a week. He sleeps for a week and wakes up in a coffin. And then Kraven takes Spider-Man's place and fights crime but is brutal. So Mary's like, oh, it's Peter.

And then he's, like, snapping necks. And she's like, Peter, it's Peter, and then he's snapping necks. And she's like, Peter! And she just goes, that's not Peter. And then when Peter Parker climbs out of the grave, instead of finding Craven, he goes right to Mary Jane. I had a very Spider-Man week, actually. Love that. I read Ultimate Spider-Man 1, kind of re-read it.

Me and Jose were talking about it. It's one of Jose's favorite books he's talked about on the show. So I reread that because I was sick, and I just pulled a comic off my shelf and said, I want to read a comic right now. And it retelling the origin made me want to watch the Tobey Spider-Man. Because reading that scene, and I looked it up, I was like, oh, my God, this came out like the same year.

Reading the scene where he goes out and wrestles, and he's like, i want to be called like you know the man spider whatever he's like that name is horrible the amazing spider-man that's it i wanted to watch that and then you can't watch the first one without watching two so i watched two the next day the perfect spider-man movie perfect spider-man movie it is a plus perfect then the next day i was like all right maybe i'll give three a shot it wasn't the perfect there are moments of three that honestly it wasn't the perfect Spider-Man there are moments of three that I really like

honestly it reminded me of X3 in that like the whole first act I was like this ain't bad and then it tanks and then when they

get into the Sandman was really the killer of Uncle Ben and they start that was all like alright and Venom wasn't great in it

the CGI though I kind of like the CGI of Venom I didn't mind the big climactic battle between Spider-Man and Venom. Yeah, in the scaffolding and in the construction building. That's not bad. It's just Spider-Man.

I like the way he gets Venom off Eddie, too, when he puts all the things and smacks it. Spider-Man 1 has a soft spot in my heart for being the OG. The first X-Men and the first Spider-Man I think are the two movies I've watched the most in my life oh really I watched the first X-Men every single Friday

for a year when I was 10 same thing for the first Spider-Man I would double feature constantly to the point where if you played

the first half a second of the first X-Men movie I'd be like we're watching X-Men I just don't really know what it is so the first one-Men movie, I'd be like, we're watching X-Men. I just don't really know what it is. They're not great movies, but plus I had every

action figure. I think they both hold up well enough where you're like, oh, this was a really good start to something. 100%. Yeah, and then both of them knock it out of the fucking park with the sequel. It's like, oh my god. Sam Raimi on the second Spider-Man movie was in his bag,

like to an insane level. The shot of Spider-Man swinging and then it comes and you realize it's in Doc Ock's sunglass eye and they just continue to fight off that. The fact that Spider-Man 2, they say like anyone can be a hero. Aunt May gives that speech to Peter and then everyone is a hero in that movie. Like all of the New Yorkers step up for Spider-Man, and the way they stick up for him when they see him without the mask on,

oh, I could go on and on about Spider-Man 2. Perfect movie. But what was, we said this last week, so just because you said that with watching it, what scene would you say you've watched the most out of any movie ever? Do you know the answer? In the first X-Men movie? In any movie.

Any movie ever. We said I'd probably watch Portal. Oh, wow. Yeah, the Portal scene in Endgame is like, go back and re-watch it once a month. What a question. What scene? Wow.

Do you have like a couple or even just one that you could say, I'll throw that on? Like, I will go on Endgame. Fast forward, fast forward. I don't think you can even keep it. Thor and Wakanda. Yeah, Thor and Wakanda yeah Thor and Wakanda was up there

with Darth Vader Rogue One yes Darth Vader Rogue One people put that in the replies that was a great show wow what a question

I'll have to think about that that is a fantastic question though in any movie ever any movie ever I was saying I've watched Die Hard

the most so it's like is Die Hard and just whatever scene I've happened to watch that could be the answer but I think

I do seek out portals very, very often. I think... I think it's going to be either the ending, when he gets out of the elevator, and Fight Club. That whole... Oh, yeah. All the way to the thing's blowing. The scene when they're driving the car

and they accidentally shoot Marvin in the face in Pulp Fiction. I've seen the gang fight in Anchorman won a lot. That's a great comedy one. I've watched that quite a bit.

Step Brothers, you touch my drum set, that would be up there for me, comedies. Oh, that's such a funny one. That might be way up there for me, too. What were you doing? I was watching Cops, like, that line. Yeah. So I would probably say, and then I watched, yeah, probably those first two.

Those are good ones. But because I had them on my old PSP. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I would, like, I just watch them. Yeah. Every day. UHD?

Something like that. Is that what they call it? UMD something? Those DVDs? So probably those two scenes. For the original Star Wars trilogy, I was thinking about it after we talked about it. Luke looking out at the twin suns and that music hitting. That's a scene I'll go on YouTube and seek out just because it gives me chills every time to this day and yoda lifting the x-wing out of the swamp on dagobah

another scene where every time the score is so good for that that i'm like i could go back and re-watch that i'll also re-watch the portal scene in endgame i did this after making the clip talking about it with crowd reaction oh yeah you get like the opening night people going that's the best in terms of the mcu i've re-watched i don't know why i'm i like when in baku's introduction a lot oh yeah panther one so good when it's like the subtle snowy stuff and no not this the oh when they bring him out to fight yeah when he challenges for the crown i don't know why that scene is so enjoyable right and so and it's like it's like a slow chant and then it gets louder and louder and then mbaku's not the first one out it's like all

his henchmen and they got the masks on too right yeah love that's a good one mcu wise the um the elevator fight and winter soldier is up there for me. Still haven't seen Winter Soldier. Wow, really? Never saw it. I understand it's the best. Add it to the list. Mitchell's Machines. I totally understand.

We'll give you all a list. I totally understand it's the best. It's so good. The airport fight scene is up there for me too. In Civil War, yeah. I watched that a good amount

because it was the first time you saw it. When that came out, especially, yeah. Before we got them fighting in other movies or whatever. Yeah. Speaking of some Star Wars stuff, this is

technically the May the 4th week episode. So, happy May the 4th. If you're watching this on Saturday, The Phantom Menace, back in theaters, one day only, I will be going to see it. Bro, talk about scenes I've re-watched. Maul's first, like, when Duel of Fates comes on.

Dude, so I've never seen the Phantom Menace in theaters. I was one when it came out. I can't wait to go. You were one? I was one when it came out. Are we old? I'm old as shit. I saw that in theaters.

Saturday morning, I'm going. I'm seeing the re-release. I'm hearing Duel of Fates, you know, in the speaker system for the first time. I'm going by myself, just alone. My girlfriend's out of town. It's going to be a delightful day. You're wearing the helmet? Maybe I'll wear the helmet.

I don't know if that's not the era, though, for the helmet. It's not. It's a prequel. Exactly. If I had the Anakin Padres helmet or the Naboo fighter pilot. Maybe you give yourself a little braid and you go over with a robe or something. A braid would be nice. Well, that's the second one, right?

That's true. Yeah, true. Well, he gets, Anakin gets a little braid at the end of, at the very end. Yeah, his little Jedi. Shout out Jake Lloyd. Shout out Jake Lloyd.

Shout out Ron Howard, too, for being one of the only people to defend him back in the day. Shout out Ray Park, who also played Toad, and we fucking hope, I hope he gets killed. I just wanted to,

I just wanted to get him killed. You're getting me into a frenzy. I just wanted to poke him a bit. He poked the bear. I had a whole soliloquy on him. Yeah, I love that. If Ryan Reynolds cares about Marvel as much as I think, he's going to kill that fucking Toad the minute.

And people are like, he played Darth Maul. I'm like, Darth Maul's cool, but fuck Toad. He also played Snake Eyes. Oh, did he in G.I. Joe? That makes sense for the acrobatics and whatnot. He could do flips like nobody else. I can still feel the pit of disappointment in my stomach leaving the theater. How old were you for Phantom Menace?

Were you young enough where you kind of liked it? That's perfect. You must have liked it. I was so into it. Retroactively, I understand why people hate it, but Darth Maul was the coolest person that ever lived. The scene when the first fight, when he like the one and they fight in the desert comes after anakin he just shows up and there's just and qui-gon just fights him there's no awesome yeah it's just let's know

who are you it's on site he's like anakin get down i'm like he doesn't even that could be a good guy yeah but we weren't breaking down like youtube like, oh, this is the villain. We're just like, what the fuck? It's dark. It's in the desert. It was terrifying. Yeah, I was a big Podracer fan. I was a big Maul fan.

I loved Binx as a kid. I thought Jar Jar Binx was the funniest fucking guy in the world. I didn't hate him. I didn't like him. I was like, he's there. Oh, I loved him. I loved the thing he rode on Naboo at the end, those things with the long legs and stuff. I loved that

fight at the end where they're throwing water balloons at the fucking droids. I liked the underwater scene with the giant fish. I thought that was so cool. I would always jump into my pool with like, I would have something in my mouth, you know, pretending it was the Jedi breathing thing. I had the action figures of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan

with those in their mouth. It was the same mold, except they just like put a little black thing in their mouth. I love that. I had the action figures of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan with those in their mouth. It's the same mold, except they just, like, put a little black thing in their mouth. I love that. I had the big fish, you know,

where there's always a bigger fish. I had so many of the toys. It's, like you, like, it holds such a special place. I understand. I was Darth Maul

for Halloween back-to-back years. Were you? We worked with Fran. She was, like, Padme. Padme for, like, seven years.

I get why people hate it, but like sometimes you just want to have a fun time with your kid. And it makes me feel so nostalgic because I would rerun that VHS more than any other, like at my grandma specifically, God bless my grandma Fox for watching that so many times. It's like arguably one of the worst star Wars movies. I'm sure she would have rather been watching empire if anything,

but yeah, I would just rewatch phantom menace over and over. And I like, I've grown to understand like watching it through a kid's eyes or thinking about watching. I'm like, Oh yeah. Like pod racing would be fucking awesome.

But I was, what was it? 98. Yeah. I was 16 fucking years old. And it's like, and you're probably sitting there like, why are they talking about taxes right now?

Exactly. But I'm kind of understanding. I'm like, I know what they're talking about. I learned this in high school. Like, trade federation route. Why the fuck do we give a shit? Like, they glossed over... That would be in the crawl.

And in the crawl, they kept bringing it up, and it was like, they're talking taxes for the third time this hour? They burn their, I've got a bad feeling about this, like 30 seconds into the they're like run run the line people like we don't know what we're doing next again that line that george says like i might have went a little far with this and the marketing for that is makes me like when they oh my god you you remember when any soda machine you saw it was like Mountain Dew but had Qui-Gon.

Or had like Pepsi and like Obi-Wan or like whatever. Exactly. And then the poster that they came out of Anakin with the shadow. I got goosebumps just saying. The best. I'm thinking this movie is one-tenth as good as that poster. One of the best movie posters ever. Not just Star Wars. Like that's one of the as that poster. One of the best movie posters ever. Not just Star Wars.

That's one of the best movie posters. One of the best teases ever. Because even when I was eight, I'm like, oh, I knew exactly what that was. The original trailer, every saga has a beginning. That's so good. I remember, I'm sure Clem, you remember this. People would go to the movies because the internet didn't exist. So the only way you could get trailers was movie theaters.

People would buy a ticket, go to the movie, see the trailer, and then leave. Yep. the only way you could get trailers was yeah yeah people buy a ticket go to the movie see the trailer and then leave yep i gotta know what well the acolyte they're kind of doing that too that because i remember there was a movie it was like they have the first they're the first ones with the trailer and people were going and leaving yeah that's part of the reason some people are going to see the phantom menace kind of myself included on saturday they're putting an accolyte trailer exclusive to May 4th. I think at the end, I believe. That would be much smarter. They're like, we're making sure you stay for this movie, motherfucker.

But I'm excited for it. The Alamos of the world. They're going to have some cool pre-shows. That's a nice little feature. Not just we're putting this movie back out that you've seen, but we're putting this movie out and we're also giving you a little thing. I also saw there's an R2 popcorn bucket. Love that.

It's $50, but it comes, it's large popcorn and a drink included, which is probably like 20 or 30 as it is. If my theater has the R2 bucket, they might be pulling my arm. I might be having to buy it. Please don't tell me you can fuck it. I don't think you can fuck it. Just please, because like my sweet R2. It ain't like the dune bucket.

Yeah, like I don't want any of his little holes. But I think it's popcorn and drink. I think you put the drink in the top and the popcorn in the belly. That's fun. Which would be cool. I have the Robert Brownson Batman bucket, the head. Oh, yeah.

And then I have Spider-Gwen from Into the Spider-Verse. I have, it's not like a fancy bucket, but I still have the fancy tin from Endgame Night. I'll always keep that one. Oh, that's a good one. If you watch normally in My Mom's Basement episodes, it's not like a fancy bucket, but I still have the fancy tin from Endgame night. I'll always keep that one. That's a good one. If you watch normally in My Mom's Basement episodes, it's behind me in the office. I have. I actually saw Endgame at midnight.

Oh, you did? That was big enough where you were like, I'll show up for this one. Here are the Marvel movies I've seen at midnight. Endgame, the first Ghost Rider. Wow. With Nicolas Cage. Yeah. Well, you own every issue.

That is my all-time favorite hero and i knew it was gonna be bad going and fun fact i owned that one on psp swear to god the first ghost rider movie i absolutely love that and dr strange oh yeah i'm a big doctor strange guy that one i was pleasantly i didn't i went in with pretty large vacations and i like i enjoyed it i remember not really wanting to see the first doctor strange my friend dom shout out dom bought us tickets and was like i know you're gonna like this we went and i loved it when i saw endgame what yeah it was endgame there was a guy who was outside you remember they did like a marathon where you could watch every marvel like a two like a 24 36 hour marathon we leave the theater after seeing it

being like holy fuck holy fuck and this guy's smoking a cigarette. He's like, did you just leave Endgame? I'm like, yeah. He's like, did you see? He's like, no, I'm in the marathon right now. It was like Thor 2.

He's like, I'm just gonna go and grab a cigarette during Thor 2. And I was like, dude, I was like, what you're doing is by far the best experience. I was like,

it's gonna suck probably in the next five, you know, five movies. But like, when you get to the end of Endgame, like, I couldn't imagine. It was awesome enough just seeing it on its own, but going through that whole fucking thing.

So they're doing that on May the 4th as well, a Star Wars marathon. So is it nine movies? Yeah, and it's like 23 hours or something. Nine or like the 11 or 12? Nine. Just the Skywalker saga. Is it in chronological order?

I was going to say they're doing it in, I believe, yeah, chronological. So episode, so Phantom Menace first. They're ending, yeah. And they're ending with Return of the Jedi? Oh no, Rise of Skywalker. Which is like, wow, that is a grind. Some people, I'm sure, will just like go for the middle and go see the original

three or something, you know, like show up for the middle. I actually had a funny exchange with a guy at FedEx right at the block. I found like a few, I had like an old kiss autograph that I wanted to send to my nephew so I packaged it up in cardboard, brought it to FedEx. I was wearing a Return of the Jedi shirt. Been wearing a different Star Wars shirt every day this week.

It's kind of, you know, made a fourth week. It's kind of a thing. And the guy says, great movie. I'm about to show it to my girlfriend for the first time. He goes, I showed her four, five, one, two, three, and we're about to watch six. So I go, oh, the machete order. And he goes, what? I was like, oh, they call that the machete order.

And he seemed so offended by this. The FedEx guy goes, why would they say that? And I was like, because you chop it up. Machete, you chop it up. And he's like, oh. I was like, all right, I see you, guy. That was the end of our conversation. Soured the conversation by bringing up the name of the order in which he watched the movies.

To watch those movies and not know it's the machete order. I was like, you just watched 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 6 for fun? Nobody told you to do that? That's wild. Wild. But he said he wanted to end it with a happy ending, which I sort of understood. Maybe his family got killed by machetes. I'm trying to think.

Maybe you don't say that word at a FedEx. It's a government building or something. I don't know. You didn't say UPS. Amazon feels like that's a bad word to them because Amazon doesn't use FedEx really. Why would they say that? They chop it up. Come on.

That's the hashtag for this week. Hashtag chop it up. Hashtag chop it up. Hashtag chop because the summer's timeline is chopped up. Boom, look at that. All tied together. It's like poetry. It rhymes, as George Lucas would say. Also, I wanted to shout out, if anyone's going to see The Phantom Menace this weekend,

or even if you're not going to see The Phantom Menace, and you haven't seen the documentary about the making of that movie, must watch because it comes off like a documentary about what went wrong in that movie like they don't pull their punches and it has that clip clem's talking about where george watches the movie for the first time and he's like i think i went a bit too far in a few places and like rick mccallum the producer's sitting there and he's like oh god like they realize it's not going to be beloved like the original trilogy was. And they had it if they just made Jar Jar, Darth Jar Jar in episode two. Fucked it all up.

But you'll also appreciate some of the movie because they went through a lot of challenges. They went through a storm like the original did, like a sandstorm and shit. And you see some of the original pod racing stuff and you're like, no, I understand the thought behind why this would be awesome in a new age. And it just didn't, you know, all click for translate. But as me and Jose can attest to, the newest generation has come around and the Phantom Menace kind of has a new narrative around it. That's fine. You can make a case. I don't want to do it on the pod.

We're friends. Like, there's more bad movies than good movies in the sky. We're not going to make that. We're not going to do that. Not during the pro star. Yeah, this is like you can't say that this is a religious like thing

you can't say that this week what a line don't don't think too much about that Jose don't start doing the math in your head

I don't want you to do that Jose thank you for coming in no I gotta ask first oh yeah I gotta ask I mean both of you

guys opinions on this do we see like come my X-Men or whatever he says, and, like, five of them are like, I'm going to go with the guy who actually was fighting for it. Magneto? Oh, a splintered team? Here's what's going to happen. Well, I don't know what's going to happen, but in the comic books.

See, you guys, I can't remember which one of you said that, but you guys were talking about how someone, yeah, Scott said, like, oh, Professor X never taught me how to be a dad. There's a very infamous scene in the comic books where Scott goes, like Cyclops leaves the X-Men to go live with Madeline and raise Nathan in Alaska because he loses a hand-to-hand combat,

like trial by combat, who will lead the X-Men against a depowered Storm, and Storm wins and takes over as leader of the X-Men, and Cyclops goes, you know what? Fair play. I'm going to go raise my kid. But, like, the whole time he's just kind of aggro and angsty and just like, bah. And then he gets a message that's like, we found the real Gene.

And then he just abandons Madeline and his kid. That's why it's infamous. Yeah. Because he just gets up and leaves. Yeah, and you want to like this guy. And the paneling, like if you Google it. That'd be that. A hundred percent.

Fuck. And then he goes and starts his own X-Men team with like various other X-Men x-men former x-men i think it's x factor i believe that's what x factor starts so there are two teams and then excalibur is the british x-men nerdy as hell to use excalibur come on guys and then there's ecstatics which is just a very quirky team if if you like wes Anderson, you probably like X-Statics. Interesting comparison. Very goofy, odd, drawn thing. Andre Feely loves X-Statics.

UFC fighter. This guy, his name is Andre Feely. That's his name, his nickname. Touchy. Andre Touchy Feely. Shout out Megan O'Leavy. She came up with that. 100%.

And Feely is on level with my knowledge. He's crazy. When they get together, they can shut down a press conference. It's great. Like the comic book store I took you to in Vegas, I went with Feely and we just dropped too much money. I'm going to have to go to- They walk in and the owner goes, cha-ching. 100%.

We probably shouldn't do the close-up, but I was like, we got to go to Midtown. I'm going to have to go to midtown. They walk in, the owner goes, cha-ching. 100%. Like, I probably shouldn't do the rosé, but I was like, we got to go to midtown. I'm always down. You got the one with the rogue and the, you know, the. Oh, yeah. Oh, I can give that to you today. I think it's in the office. And then I was like, I'm just going to buy the famous ones. The Wolverine getting crucified.

Magneto trial. Yeah. The Days of Future Past. I mean, I'm not'm not gonna you're not days of future past the issue is going to be behind glass oh so oh yeah i will not be buying that one there are days of future past the dark phoenix saga all any of the jack kirby x-men any of the jim lee issue one the originals the yeah. The Gambit and Rogue hugging panel from that X-Men, the Jim Lee X-Men, are all going to be behind glass.

I'm going to have to get the reprints. I think that's going to be fun. Yeah. I have to go in my attic because I know I have, I think I have the number one reprint. It'd be fun to flip through those, yeah. Yeah, it would be cool. You could probably find the original grouping of Weapon X

for like 50 bucks. Really? Yeah. Like that's Wolverine's origin. Yeah. You could probably find that pretty easily. There's some sick fucking covers when he has the claws out. So many of those covers are sick.

That's the Frank Miller. I really want that to be a show. Oh, the Frank Miller Wolverine. I want a spin-off of just Wolverine in Japan. They did a little bit of that in The Wolverine, and the stuff that they pulled. I hate it. I like the stuff that they pulled. Like, him running on the rooftops of the bonsai

place yes that was sick if they when they did the samurai at the end of that one i was hoping when they when they showed silver samurai in the that montage of like everything i was hoping that was like oh we're gonna go this round because i because wolverine's obviously not being utilized which i think is a breath of fresh air totally Totally. Like to get, like Nightcrawler says, it's always about Wolverine. Fair enough. If they're not using him to save all that for like a linear show where he's in Japan, I am so here for it. That'd be sick.

All right. I have to also add this one in real quick to anyone. God bless you if you made it this far. There was Boat of Mayo. I tweeted out some of the different issues. Oh, yeah. I wrote that down as well. Fatal Attractions.

He said the storyline Fatal Attractions, it was Uncanny X-Men 304. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. This guy knows what's up. I am not going to give anything away. He said that is the one to look back on for the next couple episodes. Yeah, it is. Yes.

Oh, wow. I'm really excited now. All right, good. What was it called? Fatal Attractions. Issue 304? Issue 304. Is that the one with the cards?

That's not the one with the cards. I don't remember the cover. There were some shows from season one. The Final Decision, season four, episodes one and two, One Man's Worth, part one and two, uh season four episodes one and two one man's worth part one and two season four episode six and seven sanctuary uh part one and two and then season five episode 12 descent those are i'm sure like the previous john is gonna run through this he's like watch those you're gonna need those kind of yes i had i love those the little card in there all

the cards like the holographic type thing? Every single one. There was a whole run of them with the cards. I had them all. One of those gimmicky 90s things, right? Yes. Like a chrome cover, a card. I couldn't wait to get my Tuesday comic run.

God, Archangel is so cool. I bought my son the toy. That's Apocalypse warps Angel. So when Apocalypse captures Angel and makes his four horseman in the Apocalypse, he's dead. That's sick. Metal. Metal. That's metal.

So these are all, again, if you read his tweet, these are the ones to rewatch. But our boy Heavy Spoilers, at the end of this week's video, he does like a five minute this is what happens. Perfect. Just do that. Don't go back and rewatch. Save you a lot of time. Eight episodes. Yeah, smart. Oh, Fatal Attractions, dude. I know. I fucking love Fatal. I know. Oh, we is what happens. Perfect. Just do that. Don't go back and rewatch. Save you a lot of time. Eight episodes. Yeah.

Smart. Oh, fatal attractions, dude. I know. I love it. I know. Oh,

we're going to nerd out. All right. Tune in next week. We'll be talking, uh, tolerances extinction part two.